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Joanna
bloom,
cob:,
and
if
you
are
here
as
a
member
of
the
public
to
speak,,
we'll
need
a
full
name
associated
with
each
person's
participation
and
open
and
public
comment,,
and
we
cannot
unmute
you
without
it..
If
your
full
name
is
not
currently
displayed,
you
can
change
it
or
send
me
a
text
and
I'll
give
you
my
cell
phone
number
in
just
a
moment.
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Joanna
bloom,
cob:,
there's
no
chat
feature
for
this
meeting,
but
the
q.
a.
function
is
enabled.,
so
you
can
address
any
zoom
connectivity,
issues.
and
unfortunately,.
I
can't
answer
any
content
questions.
my
role
as
zoom
post
is
really
to
just
deal
with
zoom
and
anything
computer
technology
wise.,
but
I
won't
be
able
to
answer
any
of
the
other
questions.,
but
please
use
the
q
a.
function.
if
you,.
If
you
have
questions
on
that,
front.
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Kathie
joyner:
I've
had
a
chance
to
review
the
2
information
items
in
your
packet
tonight,
and
I'd
like
to
express
my
support
for
the
use
of
the
project
prioritization
framework
in
determining
which
projects
will
provide
the
greatest
benefits
to
the
city..
I
also
support
the
incorporation
of
this
information
into
the
cip
planning
efforts.
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Kathie
joyner:
prioritization
criteria
used
include
life,,
safety,,
project,,
effectiveness,
equity,
and
several
several
other
important
gauges..
I
am
particularly
interested
in
these
3
criteria
because
they
mesh
well
with
the
city's
fundamental
responsibility
for
the
safety
and
welfare
of
its
citizens.
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Kathie
joyner:,
I
lived
in
a
neighborhood
in
2,013
that
was
severely
impacted
by
south
boulder
creek
flooding..
After
witnessing
firsthand
the
devastation
of
unchecked
flood
water,,
I
was
very
happy
to
find
that
the
south
folder
creek
flood
mitigation
project
scored
far
and
away
the
highest
for
life,
safety,
criterion
when
compared
to
all
other
projects.
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Kathie
joyner::
not
only
would
this
project
remove
thousands
of
residents
from
high
hazard
areas,,
it
would
also
protect
us,
36,
ensuring
that
it
would
remain
open
as
a
viable
thoroughfare
during
flood
events.,
something
that
was
a
significant
problem.
in
2,013.
I
urge
you
to
support
the
results
of
these
project,
prioritization
efforts,,
as
well
as
the
incorporation
of
this
information
into
the
cip
and
your
recommendations
to
council
next
month..
Thank
you
for
the
time.
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Joanna
bloom
cob:,
I'm
looking
for
that
right,
now,
and
there's
actually
2
folks
that
have
just
raised
their
hands.,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
call
on
those.
and
then,
karen,
I'll,
maybe
chat
with
you
about
the
phone
number
and
try
to
troubleshoot
that..
So
I
first
see
lynn
siegel,,
followed
by
laura
tyler
with
their
hands
raised.
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Lynn,
segal:
and
the
and
the
the
massive
diversion
of
the
alluvium
will
take
out
kathy..
It
will
take
out
the
water
treatment
plant,
and
that
doesn't
really
give
you
priority.
it's
south
boulder
creek,
does
it?,
because
the
whole
city
of
boulder
will
have
no
drinking
water
at
that
point..
So
these
these
kind
of
issues
are
something
that
rab
has
to
stand
up
for
on
on
on
the
highest.
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joanna
bloom
cob:
thanks
so
much
we
to
have
laura
tyler,,
who
also
wants
to
speak.
and
before
I
unmute
you,
laura,.
I
do
just
want
to
say
out
loud,
if
folks
are
hearing
that
people
are
having
trouble
joining
the
meeting.,
I'm
happy
to
troubleshoot
through
my
cell
phone
if
they
want
to
call
or
text
at
303.
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Daniel
johnson:
city
engineer
at
that
time
trying
to
figure
out
solutions
for
that.
so
for
10
experience
with
floods
in
boulder
in
2,013..
I've
also
experienced
floods
in
other
places..
I
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
a
lot
of
resource
work
in
california
and
experience
some
of
the
floods
that
went
on
in
the
spring.
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Daniel
johnson:,
I
just
want
to
express
my
support..
I
guess
I've
been
living
in
boulder
for
over
20
years.
Now.
I
like
to
live
here..
I
want
to
stay
living
here,
and
I
like
to
see
it
improve
inside
mitigation.
Fun.
Hazard
reduction
is
certainly
one
area
that
I'm
interested
in..
So
thank
you
for
the
time,
and
I
really
wish
the
rest
of
my
space.
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Joanna
bloom
cob:,
we
are
in
the
public
comment
phase,,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
those
who
want
to
speak
tonight
get
a
chance..
You
can
hit
star
9
on
your
phone.
if
you're
joining
by
phone,
or
you
can
virtually
raise
your
hand.
look
at
it
just
one
more
second,
before
public
comment
wraps
up.
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Wrab
host
computer:
okay,
thank
you,
joanne..
Before
we
conclude
the
public
comment.
Session,
though
I
was
wondering
if,
if
joe,
if
you
could
provide
feedback
to
the
seagull,
and
probably
to
the
public,,
just
in
terms
of
what
the
reps
authorities
are
and
or
not
with
respect,
to.
the
flood
mitigation
projects
such
as
you
south
or
any
other.
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Wrab
host
computer:,
we
put
about
40
plus
1
million
dollars
into
the
car.
really
pipeline
for
the
from
northern
water,,
which
is
a
better
alternative,
safer
alternative
to
get
that
water
to
the,,
to
the
treatment
plant.
and
since
that
time,.
Since
the
flood
see,
that
has
also
armored
the
roads,
and
the
county
has
up
to
our
treatment
plan..
So.
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Wrab
host
computer:
sure
I
can.
I
can
kick
those
off.
and
first
one
to
say,,
welcome
to
our
newest
board,
member,,
lauren,
and
glad
you
could
be
here
with
us,
tonight,
and
appreciate
you
all
very
with
us.,
as
we
made
our
way
through
some
technical
difficulty
to
get
started..
It's
always
an
adventure
trying
to
make
all
of
the
gadgets
work
out.
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Wrab
host
computer:,
I'm
6.
6.
second,,
no
problem.,
okay,,
thanks,
joe.,
I'm
brandon
coleman
on
the
engineering
manager
from
soft
blood
utility.
and
we're
just
gonna
go
over
the
project.
Prioritization
framework
tonight.
and
I'm
joined
by
vicki
sharonhurst,
from
tetra
tech,
who,,
with
our
consultant
on
the.
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
tonight
I'm
just
going
to
go
over
a
brief
overview
of
our
storm
water,
flood,
utility.
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
vicki
to
go
over
the
project,
prioritization
framework.,
so
the
inputs,
how
we
came
up
with
the
scores
and
then
also
the
prioritize
project..
So
all
the
projects
we
have
listed
and
then
we'll
turn
it
back
over
to
joe
for
next
steps.
B
Wrab
host
computer:
so,,
starting
with
the
storm
flood
utility.
bowler,
does
have
the
number
one
flood
risk
in
colorado,
and
our
mission
is
really
protection
of
life,,
safety,
and
property
as
a
utility.,
and
we
really
focus
on
the
100
year.
Flood
event,,
which
is
a
1%
chance
of
occurring
in
any
given
year.
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
we
have
16
major
drainage
ways
across
boulder
all
have
very
various
levels
of
flood
protection
and
mitigation.,
and
we
also
are
responsible
for
the
entire
city..
So
the
comprehensive
flood
and
storm
water.
master
plan
really
addresses
the
city
wide
approach
to
storm
water
and
flood
management..
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
historically,
boulder
has
flooded
in
the
past.
the
nice
thing
about
the
holders..
We
have
a
long
historic
record
all
the
way
back
to
the
1,800.,
so
some
of
these
photos
are
from
the
18
hundreds.
all
the
way.
Through
the
19
twenties,
19
thirties,,
we
did
have
a
significant
flood
event
in
1,969
and
then
even
just
recently,.
As
we
mentioned
june
twelfth..
If
you
live
in
the
city,,
there
was
a
bunch
of
hail.
We
saw
some
localized
flooding
from
that
event..
This
picture
on
the
bottom
right
is
from.
B
Wrab
host
computer:
and
then,,
most
recently,,
the
2,013
flood.,
so
we're
at
the
10
year,
anniversary.
currently..
So
this
happened
in
2,013,
and
the
unique
thing
about
the
2,013
flood..
It
was
a
long
duration,
storm
event,
and
we
saw
widespread
flooding
throughout
the
city.,
so
in
all
of
our
major
drainage
ways,,
but
that
did
not
equate
to
a
hundred
year
level
flood
for
all
of
the
major
drainage
ways..
So
it's
just
a
good.
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
as
our
utility,,
this
life
cycle
approach
was
really
developed
as
part
of
our
2,004
comprehensive
storm,
water
master
plan,,
and
we
really
start
with
floodplain
mapping,
which
really
identifies
the
risks.
related
to
this
1%
chance
annual
flooding
and
from
there
for
each
drainage.
Way.
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:
and
then
finally,
from
that
mitigation
planning,
we
moved
to
design
and
construction
phase.
and
that's
really
what
we're
here
to
talk
about
tonight..
So
we
have
completed
a
lot
of
mitigation
planning
across
the
city..
We
have
over
30
projects
that
have
been
identified
for
design
and
construction.,
and
now
we
need
to
start
implementing
the
construction
of
those
projects.
Moving
forward.
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B
Wrab
host
computer::
that's
our
approach
to
flood
mitigation
across
the
city.,
so
really
not
trying
to
control
floods,
per,
say,,
but
trying
to
accommodate
them
and
work
with
the
natural
processes
that
are
happening.
so
on
the
bottom
of
this
slide..
These
are
all
projects
and
areas
where
there
has
been
engineered.
Flood
mitigation
in
the
past.
and,
most
recently
on
a
landslide,
is
our
wonderland
cream
project
from
winding
trails
to
foothills.
B
B
Wrab
host
computer::
this
is
not
one
to
link
creek,
the
natural,
historic
path.,
so
I'll
pull
up
my
cursor
here..
So
when
we
improve
this,,
we
added
these
box
covers
that
you
see,,
on
the
right
hand,
side.
and
actually,.
This
existing
covert
is
really
hidden
behind
these
walls.
Here
on
the
right,.
Just
to
give
you
some
scale
of
what
we're
talking
about
when
we
do
flood
mitigation.,
so
we
really
do
have
major
improvements
that
we
need
to
do
to
fill
out.
Our
utility.
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
what
floods
of
record
from
the
18
hundreds,
and
also
the
early
19
hundreds.,
and
I
mentioned
that
1969
flood.
So
after
the
69
flood,
the
mile
high
flood
district
was
formed,
and
we
also
formed
the
storm,
water
and
flood
utility
for
the
city
in
1,973,
and
our
first
master
planning
effort
was
the
comprehensive
drainage,
utility,
and
master
plan,,
which
was
developed
in
1,984,.
B
Wrab
host
computer:
and
then
we
updated
that
to
the
comprehensive
slug
and
storm
water
master
plan
in
2,004,,
and
we
had
that
master
plan
available
to
us
for
the
2,013
flooding..
So
that's
the
approach
we
took
from
flat
mitigation
from
2,013,
and
then
most
recently,
in
september
of
2,022
could
be
updated
next.,
but
in
store
water
master
plan..
And
that's
what
we're
here
tonight
to
talk
about.
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
there
was
some
key
outcomes
from
that
master
plan..
They
really
focused
on
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
climate,
change,
maintenance
and
also
community
outreach.,
but
in
the
upper
left
hand,
box
you'll
see
this
is
directly
from
the
plan..
There
was
a
really
a
desired
prioritize.
The
projects
across
the
city
that
are
going
to
do
the
greatest
good
first.,
and
that's
really
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
tonight.,
so
that
prioritization
framework
that
we
developed.
B
J
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
brandon
talked
about
the
cycle
of
major
plug
projects,
and
historically,
it
is
taken
as
long
as
up
to
20
years
to
get
a
project
in
fruition
and
providing
benefits..
So
one
of
the
role
missions
of
this
effort
was
to
make
sure
that
we
aligned
the
prioritization
tool
with
the
core
community
values,
but
minimize
the
debate
over
which
projects
would
go.
Next.
J
Wrab
host
computer:
this
next
slide
shows
you
the
major
criteria
that
we're
used
in
the
model,
and
you
might
ask
where
we
got
those..
There
are
7
major
criteria
listed
here,
and
they
are
listed
from
what
the
community
deemed
to
be
most
important
down
to
still
important,
but
multiple
benefits.
Was
this
ranked
last.
J
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
we
did
quite
a
bit
of
community
outreach
that
included
asking
residents
and
citizens
to
both
of
these
criteria,
and
we
brings
from
what
the
criteria
should
be..
Certainly
on
be
over..
We
did
6
basic
specific
meetings
that
you
could
think
of
as
neighborhood
meetings..
We
met
in
person.
J
Wrab
host
computer:,
sometimes
with
the
first
market,
to
help
people
with
their
voting,
but
everything
from
hometown
festival,,
where
we
could
think
that
we
might
be
able
to
have
some
people
during
the
pandemic
and
help
them
get
their
votes.
In.
So
I'd
like
to
think
about
this
matrix
and
sort
of
turn
it
sideways
and
go
into
what
we
call
the
decision.
Hierarchy.
J
J
J
J
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J
Wrab
host
computer:
I'll
talk
about
equity.
a
bit
more
next,,
but
just
to
say
it
ranked
third
highest
to
18%
by
the
citizens.
Also,
residents,,
frank,,
environmental
and
cultural
protection
of
both
environmental
control
resources..
As
for
the
highest
and
put
a
pretty
high
stake
on
that,,
that
was
at
11%.
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J
Wrab
host
computer:
and
then,
as
well
as
does
the
does
the
project,
have
broad
community
support
or
not
so
much,
and,
of
course,
the
more
support
ranked
one
to
5,
the
higher
support
it
got,
and
scoring,,
and
lastly,
multiple
benefits.,
and
that's
one
just
to
think
in
terms
of?.
Does
the
project
is
built,,
offer
things
that
are,
in
addition
to
flood
control,
benefits
or
flow
protection.,
so
this
might
be
assisting
with
the
safer
roots
to
school.
J
J
J
J
J
Wrab
host
computer:
personnel
in
that
area,
or
single
parent
households,,
also
minority
status
percent
of
people
with
english
as
a
second
language,
and,
lastly,,
how
some
type
and
transportation.
so
these
might
be
people
who
lack
access
or
ability
to
evacuate.
These
are
multi
unit,
structures,
apartment,
buildings,
and
mobile
house..
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J
J
Wrab
host
computer:,
the
second
project
in
the
north
boulder
area,
is
the
wonderland
creek
and
it
also
goes
down
to
20
eighth
street
sort
of
an
interesting
thing.
you'll,
see
with
all
of
the
projects,
as
we
typically
build
projects
from
downstream
to
upstream,
and
you'll
start
to
notice
well,
what
happened
to
segment.
one
or
2.
well,.
Those
projects
have
already
been
constructed.,
and
so
that's
what
you
see
right
here
on
this
slide.
J
Wrab
host
computer:
central
boulder
tomorrow
goes
from
city
limits
down
to
about
twenty-fourth
street,
or
got
down
to
goose
creek.
that
confluence,
and
similarly
the
goose
creek
system
that
remains
goes
from
north
boulder
park.
Down
to
that
confluence.
As
well.
then,
you
see,
gregory,,
we
go
kings
and
skunk,
and
they
all,
of
course,
receive
water
from
well
outside
and
and
above
the
chatauqua
area.
J
J
Wrab
host
computer:,
all
right.,
so
wrab
host
computer:.
How
did
things
fair.
so
I'll
go
through
this
at
a
certain
pace,
and
then,
of
course,?
We
can
answer
any
questions
that
the
board
has..
So
these
are
the
top
right
projects,
according
to
the
framework
and
the
quantitative
and
qualitative
data
that
we
discussed.
and
nice
way
to
look
at.
It
is
this
next
graphic,
which
gives
you
a
nice
visual
for
why.
J
J
J
J
J
J
wrab
host
computer:,
but
when
you
juxtapose
it,,
say
against
scunko
7,,
which
is
6
6
projects,
ranked
above
it.
step
for
quite
high..
It
still
has
46
structures
that
get
removed.,
so
it's
still
very
effective
and
unlimiting
structures
from
the
100..
Your
flood
plane
that
you.,
you
can
also
see
it
has
a
quite
high
social
vulnerability
index
as
a
point
6
on
a
scale
of
0
to
one..
That's
how
that
made.
The
big
difference.
J
J
J
Wrab
host
computer:,
all
right.,
and
then
here
are
the
last,
doesn't
wrab
host
computer:
projects.
and
in
this
I
think
one
of
the
things
you
can
take
away
from
looking
at
this
is,.
If
you
look
at
the
bottom,
you'll
start
to
see
of
the
7
criteria.
many,
many
of
these
projects
don't
actually
get
scoring.,
they
they
don't
have
an
appreciable
score
in
all
7
areas.,
and
so
therefore,
their
priority
came
down
toward
the
bottom.
J
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B
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host
computer:
yeah.,
so
the
way
we
gathered
the
input
from
the
community
was,,
we
did
a
dot
storming
exercise..
So
we
had
all
the
criteria
that
you
saw.
and
we
said.
there's
a
certain
number
of
dots
place
which
one's
the
most
important.
and
that's
how
we
generated
the
percentages
for
the
main
criteria.
B
Wrab
host
computer:
and
then
from
that,
a
lot
of
the
technical
information.,
so
structures,
protected,,
roadways,
protected
high
hazards,
zone,
benefits,,
cultural
resources
in
the
area,
critical
facilities
in
the
area..
Those
are
all
generated
as
part
of
the
mitigation
planning
effort
for
how
we
evaluate
alternatives..
So
we
essentially
pulled
all
that
data
into
the
project,
prioritization
tool.,
so
we
can
look
at
it
across
all
the
different
drainage
ways..
So
that's
the
first
time
we've
ever
done
that
as
a
utility.,
so
the
technical
work.
B
B
B
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:
subscribe.
and
I
lost
my
train
of
thought,
a
second
ago.,
so
our
staff
and
our
technical
experts,,
vicki
and
brandon,.
We
framed
the
whole
thing
to
bring
to
the
public..
So
just
the
the
framework
for
the
package
that
we
asked
the
public
to
phone
that
that
wasn't
just
a
a
free
for
all..
It
had
our
technical
expertise
as
a
basis,,
and
then
it
really
was
the
the.
B
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host
computer:.
So
that's
why
we
had
a
huge
community
outreach
effort
as
part
of
the
cfs..
We
did
this
development
to
make
sure
that
we
are
representing
the
community
values.,
so
we
could
have
community
buy
in
on
these
projects
and
then
also
move
away
from
a
strict
cost,,
benefit,
analysis,
comparison.,
because
each,
as
you
mentioned.,
there's
so
many
different
ways
and
boulders,
and
to
compare
them
that
way.
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host
computer:
right?,
so
the
community.,
so
let's
see
here,
I
can
probably
share,
but
that
that
spider
matrix
that
vicki
showed,
which
is
part
of
the
cfs.,
the
community
really
focused
on
the
first
tier
of
that.
and
then
what
it
went
into
those
tiers
was
where
staff
really
had
input..
So
what
does
life
safety
mean??
How
is
we
evaluate
that?
We
recommended
some
data
that
could
actually
quantify
that.
J
B
J
J
J
J
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
reverse
matrix.,
so
if
it,,
if
the
cost
of
the
project
is
lower,,
it
was
rate
higher,,
it
would
get
a
higher
score
for
cost.,
so
you
will
see..
I
think
that
was
the
interesting
thing
for
us,
as
staff
is,.
We
haven't
put
all
these
metrics
together
for
these
projects,
and
gave
us
very
standard
kind
of
quantitative
approach
to
compared
to
projects
across
the
city..
So,
even
though.
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host
computer:
when
it
comes
to
grouping
these
as
projects
or
identifying
reaches
that
may
go
together,
like
that's
really
the
next
step
in
this
process..
So
we
did
look
really
hard
at
the
project
list,
and
how
they
ranked,,
based
on
the
data
and
just
kind
of
validated
it
for
ourselves.
like,.
Does
this
make
sense?
so.
B
Wrab
host
computer:
it.,
it's
a
good
question.
and
we
did
look
at
some
of
those
areas
that
got
flagged
higher
if
it's
more
projects
in
that
area.,
but
we
would
also
be
able
to
see
what's
driving
that
as
well..
So
if
it's
a
very
socially
vulnerable
area
of
the
city,
that
would
also
be
indicated
in
our
metrics.,
so
we'd
be
able
to
say,.
That's
why
we're
targeting
these
projects.
now.
B
Wrab
host
computer:
the,
the
assigned
value
for
a
given
criteria,
and
translated
that
into
a
score..
It
looks
like
the
scores
on
on
the
the
bar
tarts.,
maybe
one
in
it's
in
theory
that
they
never
quite
got
that
high..
How
would
you
equate
particularly
like
number
of
homes
out
of
the
flood
plane
to
a
one
to
5,
ranking
in
a
different
criteria.
B
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Wrab
host
computer:,
I
think
we're
in.,
think
of.,
it's
just
a
big
spreadsheet.,
so
you
know
that,
for
instance,.
The
one
of
the
metrics
you
mentioned
would
go
into
the
effectiveness
category.,
so
number
of
structures
removed..
So
one
of
the
examples
I
gave
was
bluebell,
o.
2,,
which
has
304
structures
that
are
identified
in
that
mitigation
plan
that
would
be
removed
from
that
100
year.
Flip
plane.
J
Wrab
host
computer:
and
so
between
the
reduced
physical
damage
and
reduce
economic
loss,,
reducing
physical
damage,.
The
number
of
buildings
was
ranked
as
60,
as
more
important
as
as
opposed
to
reducing
economic
loss..
So
it
literally
is
just
a
multiplication
of
in
that
one
or
that
100
we
have..
You
know
how
you
look
at
it..
That's
that
fraction
or
or
percentage
of
that
criteria.
J
Wrab
host
computer:
weighted
wrab
host
computer:,
pull
to
that
one
project
reach,.
If
that
makes
sense.
so
you,.
If
you
just
do
the
math
and
the
model,,
it
goes
20
times
that
overall
80%
times
the
60%
times
the
304
structures..
So
some
of
these
projects
might
have
no
structures
that
get
pulled
out
of
the
100,
your
flip
plane..
So
then
it
doesn't
get
a
score.
J
J
J
B
B
B
B
J
J
J
Wrab
host
computer:
eligibility
of
the
sites
that
would
be
inundated
with
a
project
versus
without.,
so
again,,
it's
it's
a
real
metric.,
it's
a
number.
but
then,
in
order
to
put
it
into
the
model,
that
one
was
ranked
from
one
to
36.
okay,.
So
that's
an
example
of
where
we
took
quantitative,
data,
still
quantitative,,
but
we
made
it
semi
quantitative,
so
that
for
a
ranking
perspective,
you
can
see
where
it
stacks.
J
J
J
B
B
B
B
B
J
Wrab
host
computer:
in
the
ranking,
because,
historically,
there
was
a
concern
that
there
might
be
projects
out
there
that
could
be
easier
on
the
checkbook,
but
might
offer
similar
value.,
and
so
in
this
case
you
can
think
of
cost.
As
a
this
benefit.,
it's
a
reverse
like
the
more
expensive
the
project.
B
wrab
host
computer:
the
way
we've
broken
up.
These
mitigation
plans
is
by
reach.,
so
we
have
very
similar
costs
for
a
lot
of
different
projects.
south
boulder
creek
at
number.
One
is
a
detention
project
with
a
much
more
cost
than
all
the
other
projects..
So
you
didn't
see
a
huge
variability
in
the
projects.
B
Wrab
host
computer:
being
driven
by
cost
per
say,
aside
from
the
south
pole
of
creek
project,,
because
it
is
significantly
expensive..
So
some
of
those
bars
look
very
similar
as
you
go
down,
because
you
see
a
lot
of
similar
benefits
or
similar
costs
for
the
projects.
and
what
we're
looking
is,.
How
do
we
differentiate
across
the
city
for
what
projects
we
should
really
be
targeting
next.
B
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host
computer:,
the
decision-makers.,
so
rap
recommendations
and
also
city
council
recommendations,,
and
we
didn't
give
anything
up
5
on
community
support
because
we
didn't
want
to
bias
ourselves..
So
we
really
tried
to
see
if
there
was
split
votes
from
city
council
or
from
rad
within
those
recommendations,,
and
that
we
would
write
them
lower.
and
then
some
of
the
projects.
We
know
that
have
been.
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computer:
darker
and
slightly
different
colors,,
and
then
the
other
has
just
outlined.,
so
it
just
just
because
I
know
we
all
like
maps
and
maps
are
very
helpful
for
understanding.
I
just
wondered
what
the
message
was
for
both
of
these
maps.
absolutely
so.,
just
quickly,,
you
see,
first
on
the
screen,
the
sbi
and
app
by
census,
track.,
so
those.,
and
then
you
also
personal
legend,,
see
if
it's
screen..
It
has
a
low
social
vulnerability
on
that
tract.
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host
computer:,
if
those
waiting
factors
were
increased,,
of
course,
others
would
have
to
go
down
to
make
it
people
to
100.,
but
that
might
cause
those
projects
to
actually
move
up
in
the
priority
list.
To
then
further
justify
why,
they're
in
in
the
the
process
right
now,,
where
the
others
are
not.
B
wrab
host
computer:,
our
staff,,
take
a
look
at
how
these
shook,
out.
and
and
there's
just
a
does.
This..
Is
there
anything
on
this
list
that
just
does
not
seem
right
to
us
for
this,
or,,
worse
yet,
does
this
seem
all
messed
up,
and
had
that
been
our
reaction
to
it,,
we
would
have
raised
our
hand
and
said.
B
B
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host
computer:
for
the
people
who
will
have
negative
impacts
or
things
they
don't
like
about
the
projects
we
know
we'll
have
vocal
opposition..
We
also
know
there
are
people
who
desperately
want
to
see
the
the
flood
improvements
made,,
and
so
how
do
we
get
ourselves
out
of
this
dilemma
of
pitting
one
drainage
against
another?
and
and
it
kind
of
never
ends.
and
so,,
having
some
basis
for
how
we
prioritize
these?.
B
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host
computer:
and
they
were
presented
in
the
context
of,
I
think,
3
or
4
theoretical
projects
which
may,
in
fact,
have
been
some
of
the
projects
that
actually
exist
here.,
but
they
work
as
you
actually
run
through
the
system..
So
I
I
would
like
to
think
that
those
waiting
factors
are
not
as
cast
in
stone
as
you're
applying.
B
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host
computer:
and
we're
comfortable
with
it.,
so
I
I
don't
want
to..
I
don't
want
people
to
go
away.
With.
wow!!
This
seems
like
it
was
a
free
for
all,
and
90
people
just
sort
of
set
the
stage
for
everything..
We
framed
it
with
that
expertise
in
in
a
way
that
they
could
provide
input
with
some.
B
B
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Wrab
host
computer:
good,,
just
real
quick.-
I
don't
want
to
believe
it.,
but
just
to
add
to
this
point,.
I
think
because
I
want
to
see
this
work
and
be
effective.
so
in
these
kind
of
public
credibility
to
be
effective,.
I'm
concerned
that
some
just
sees
this,
the
territories
list,
and
then
sees
3
projects,
not
in
the
top
5.
F
F
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host
computer:,
we
were
potentially
just
gonna,
be
putting
ourselves
in
a
spot
that
didn't
acknowledge
that
reality
of
having
to
have
a
cut
off.
and-
and
we
wouldn't
that
there'd
be
no
end
to
relitigating
and
like
well,,
that
shouldn't
be
on
list..
I
also
think
it's
maybe
important
to
think
about
the
context,.
You
know.
right
now.,.
J
J
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Wrab
host
computer:,
progressive,,
thoughtful
communities
and
agencies
are
trying
to
do,
to
sort
of
reset
the
prioritization
of,.
You
know
flood
mitigation
projects,
because
previously
events
that
money
went
to
people's
valuable
properties..
So
I
mean,
that
is
one
of
the
criteria.,
but
so
much
of
that.
J
B
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B
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B
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Wrab
host
computer:
I'll
just
say
south
boulder
creek
scored
very
high..
It's
also
a
very
unique
project
to
the
city,,
because
it
is
the
only
major
regional
detention
project
and
probably
only
space.
We
have
as
a
city
to
implement
that
regional
detention
project..
So
that's
you'll
see
a
lot
of
the
homes.
B
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B
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host
computer:,
that's
enough
for
me.
thank
you,,
joe.
good
evening.
board.
Members,
is
this
joe
mentioned?,
I'm
christopher
state
senior
utilities,
engineering
manager
really
managing
capital
projects
for
all
3
of
the
utilities..
This
is
the
first
of
our
2
meetings
that
we'll
have
this
year
on
c.
I.
typically,.
We
have.
K
K
B
Wrab
host
computer:
and
then
I
also
do
have
for
additional
support
our
utilities.
Engineering
supervisors
that
manage
really
those
3
utilities
for.
and
this
joe
kind
of
broke
it
up..
We
kind
of
break
up
the
the
water
into
the
source.
Water
into
the
treated
product
group.-
so
that's
where
we
have
those
4
supervisors
here
as
well.
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
just
as
an
overview
on
the
agenda,
again,
I'll
talk
through
just
really
an
overview
on
the
capital
improvements.
program..
Then
talk
highlight
on
some
of
the
key
projects.,
we'll
see
in
the
cip,,
not
nearly
all
of
them.,
and
then
chris
will
talk
about
financial
matters,,
really
dealing
with
rate
changes
and
financial
impacts.
and
then
we'll
have
some
discussion
and
question
time
with
the
board.
K
K
K
Wrab
host
computer:
so
before
we
discuss
some
of
the
specific
projects
in
the
2,024
to
2,029
capital
improvements.
Program.
I'd
like
to
discuss
some
concepts
on
how
we
evaluate
projects..
There
are
many
variables
that
staff
review
to
make
recommendations
for
the
cid..
These
video
goals
are
identified
on
a
slide
of
specific
note.
rab
identified
aging
infrastructure
in
previous
letters,
councils,
the
top
priority.
K
Wrab
host
computer:
we've
been
applying
this,
the
that
concept
in
conjunction
with
the
other
variables,
to
choose
projects.
for
instance,.
One
of
the
process
projects
we'll
talk
about
this
evening
is
the
phosphorus
upgrades
project
at
the
waste,
water,
water,
resources,,
recovery,
facility
or
worth.
K
K
K
K
Wrab
host
computer:,
the
scoring,
is
one
tool
for
choosing
projects..
We
also
have
to
consider
public
safety,
quality
of
life
and
economic
vitality
when
we're
looking
at
projects..
So
if
you
remember
from
last
year,
I
talked
about
the
car
methodology.,
so
a
hundred
percent
utility
index
score
would
be
that
brand
new
car
just
to
drive
off
the
lot,.
But
anytime
you
drive
a
car
off
the
lot.
The
instant
you
drive
the
car
off
the
line.
It
loses
its
value.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
B
K
K
K
K
K
Wrab
host
computer:
and
then
finally,,
it's
like
to
touch
on
the
storm,
water
and
flood
utility,
which
it
does
not
suit
itself.
as
easily
to
an
aim
project
some
of
the
other
utilities..
So
that's
where
really
the
discussion
earlier
this
evening
that
what
you
were
using
the
comprehensive
installment
flood
analysis
tool.
K
K
K
Wrab
host
computer:
and
we
compared
these
projects
for
funding,
availability
and
and
benefits..
The
updated
class
costs
include
our
our
funding
comparisons.
for
instance,.
We
looked
at
on
the
clarifiers
project
there
on
the
bottom.
We
looked
at
because
of
where
the
costs
were
coming
in..
We
we
did
change
the
scope..
We
reduce
the
number
of
clarifiers
within
that
project,,
but
we
still
saw.
K
Wrab
host
computer:.
We
also
change
timing
with
projects
the
the
main
sewer
improvements
project.
We
added
a
third
phase
into
the
cip
in
2,029
to
help
defer
some
of
those
cost,
to
be
able
to
advance
the
the
vast
majority
of
that
project.
and
then.
But
then
we
have
also
looked
at
funding
on
projects
as
well..
So
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
later,
on.
the
funding
opportunities
that
we've
had
for
the
phosphorus
upgrade
projects.
K
K
K
K
K
Wrab
host
computer:,
which
is
just
been
added
to
the
cip
this
year
and
scheduled
for
construction
in
2,029..
It's
a
significant
project
that
we're
still
to
find
scope
on.,
but
we're
in
the
process
of
working
with
the
state
engineers
office
and
a
technical
review
board
on
the
barker
dam
to
look
at
how
we're
the
current
condition
of
the
dam,
this,
and
how
it
compares
to
current
safety
regulations..
So
there's
definitely
more
to
come
on
that..
But
we
do
anticipate
that
as
a
significant
project
later
in
cip..
K
K
K
K
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
the
transmission
system
receives
water
from
the
treatment
facilities
and
then
delivers
water
to
the
smaller
pipes,
and
eventually
the
customers
for
their
for
their
individually
use.,
there's
many
miles
of
transmission
pipes
and
slated
for
replacement
coming
year.
Years.
first
of
these
projects
is
the
start
of
a
multi-faced
project
to
replace
the
pipeline
on
63
from
the
to
the
63
water
treatment
facility
to
approximately
cherrydale.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
Wrab
host
computer:
I
wanted
to.
highlight
phase,.
Does
the
base
one
on
the
msi
project
just
wanted
to
show
you
results.?
You
can
see
the
lining
of
the
pipe
on
the
left
in
in
the
before
lining,
and
you
can
see
the
deteriorated
concrete..
You
can
even
see
some
of
the
reinforcing
material,
seeing
reinforcing
material
on
a
concrete
pipe
is
not
a
good
thing.
K
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
we
went
through,
and
it
accelerated
that
project,
and
you
can
see
then,
on
shoes
on
the
right.,
the
afterlining
photo.,
and
what
we
did
is
we
came
in
with
the
aligning
material.
basically,.
We
blew
up
a
balloon,
cured
that
balloon
in
place.
and
now
we
have
it
structurally
sound
pipe
within
the
pipe
and
with
minimal
reduction
in
capacity.,
but
certainly
we're
able
to
get
an
interest..
Those.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
Wrab
host
computer:
so
with
that,,
that
is
the
discussion
on
the
project.
now,,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
krista
bill
to
discuss
some
of
the
financial
aspects
before
chris
starts..
I
might
want
to
just
jump
in
for
a
second,,
and
I
know
that
we're
quite
a
bit
behind
on
on
time.,
I
hopefully,
you're,
okay
to
keep
going.
we'll
we'll
try
to.
B
Wrab
host
computer:
thanks
for
that.,
so
I've
been
introduced
a
few
times
before
the
record
kristyville,
deputy
director
of
operations.
and
yeah,.
I
appreciate
your
interest.
and
like
joe
said,,
this
is
really
important.,
so
I
have
about
10
slides
that
I
wanted
to
highlight
as
a
fortune
to
deliver
the
news,
tonight,
and
consistent
joe's
message
about
graham
clark..
All
this
is
his
material
that
he
prepared
and
but
I
had
the
privilege
of
working
closely
with
graham
as
a
lot
of
our
team.
B
B
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
we
did
bond
for
47
million
dollars,
and
that
was
achieved
with
this
bond
rating
of
triple
a
so
standard
and
poor's
was
able
to
give
us
that
bond
rating
for.,
and
I
quote,
holders
forward
looking
capital
plan
to
address
firm
water
supply
and
aging
infrastructure,
long
term,
financial
planning,.
Cyber
standards.
B
B
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
but
it
is,
is
actually
less
than
the
value
we
shared
in
the
memo..
In
the
memory
you
might
have
read
a
value
closer
to
100
million
dollars
or
99
million..
The
difference
here,
is,
that
is
8
million
dollars,
which
that
was.
that's
a
a
placeholder
for
infrastructure,
upgrades
related
to
the
spring
valley
neighborhood,,
which
is
at
the
base
of
the
foot
hills
near
lived
in
so
spring
valley.
They
desire
to
annex
into
the
city,
and
they've
submitted
an
annexation.
application.
B
Wrab,
host
computer:
and
discussions
and
decisions
are
ongoing
with
the
city
in
spring
valley.,
there's
still
a
lot
of
important
aspects
to
to
discuss
and
sort
out.,
but
the
concept
that's
moving
forward
that
we
want
to
share
with
you
is
that
for
the
city
to
basically
finance
be
the
bank
for
for
this
annexation.
Process.
B
B
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B
B
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B
Wrab
host
computer:
for
2024
wrab
host
computer:
main
reason
behind
the
higher
recommended
rates
for
water
and
waste
water
is
really
inflationary,
pressures.
the
cost
for
seeing,
for
for
projects.,
the
main
reason
behind
the
reduced
rate
and
storm
and
flood
is,.
As
chris
mentioned
earlier,
decoupling,
the
upper
goose
work
from
the
south
border
creek
bond.
that
gives
us
an
ability
to
smooth
out
those
rates.
Further.
B
B
B
B
wrab
host
computer:,
alternative,
funding.,
yeah,
yeah..
Sorry,
I
got
to
advance
alright..
So
at
the
request
of
wrap.
and
we've
heard
this
over
the
years.,
you
utilities
has
really
taken
serious
ability
to
seek
out
alternative
funding
with
sermon
discretion..
We
don't
chase
every
opportunity,,
but
we
really
do
try
to
be
mindful
of
where,
where
we
can
have
a
high
probability
of
obtaining
some
some
funding.
Assistance.
B
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
this
long
standing
program
that
finances,
design
and
construction
of
water
and
waste
water,
infrastructure.
it's
administered
by
the
colorado
department
of
public
health
and
environment
and
the
department
of
local
affairs
or
dola,
and
lastly,
also
the
colorado
water
resources
and
power
development.
Authority.
B
B
B
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
wrab
host
computer:,
the
last
bit
of
information
here-
is
wrab
host
computer:
ending
all
these
decisions,
we
will.
the
last
bit
of
information.
We'll
learn
is
the
amount
of
loan
forgiveness.,
so
they
have
identified
up
to
1.5
million
dollars
in
actual
loan
forgiveness,
so
cumulatively..
This
is
a
very
good
story,
and
we're
excited
to
to
be
receiving
this
news,
and
the
team
has
worked
hard
to
to
bring
this
forward
in
the
interest
of
our
our
community.
B
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
just
a
quick
note
here
on
the
billing
assistance
programs..
We
believe
this
is
important
to
lift
up
the
photo
you
see
in
the
background..
We
just
thought:
we'd
have
a
fun
moment..
This
is
the
city's
first
reservoir,
built
in
1,875,
known
as
city
reservoir
number
one..
So
it's
located
near
modern
day.
People's
crossing
park,
west
of
pearl,
and
and
kind
of
a
jason.
B
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:
now
the
last
series
of
slides.
I'll
try
to
go
quick,
here,
gordon..
We
credit
you
with
some
pre
conversation
about
your
interested
fund,
financials,
and
and
do
agree
that
maybe
the
rest
of
the
board
would
benefit
from
kind
of
a
fun
financial
101..
So
I'll
kind
of
hit
this
quickly.
we
we
tend
to
focus
on
the
cip
tables
and
the
projects.,
but
the
fun
financials
are
really,
really
what
matters
and
and
how
we
can
assure
that.
We're
able
to
pay
for
all
this.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
you
can
see.
in
2,022
we
have
32
million
dollars
listed
in
2,023..
We
have
18
million
dollars,
listed.
that
that's
anticipating
proceeds
for
the
fourth
quarter
bond
that
we,.
You
know
plan
to
do
here.
and
then
2024.,
there's
nothing
listed..
We
don't
anticipate.
bond
proceeds
in
the
water
fund
in
2,024.
E
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
so
wrab
host
computer:
everything
from
our
day
to
day,
expenses,
and
then
again,
representing
all
of
our
debt,,
our
existing
bonds
that
we're
already
paying
back..
And
then
we
do
see
a
new
line
item
here
with
with
anticipation
of
starting
to
pay
back.
The
fourth
quarter.
2023
bond
in
2024,
with
a
new
new
line,
item.
B
Wrab
host
computer:
starting
next
year.
wrab
host
computer:
transfers..
These
are
for
internal
service
support.,
there's
a
there's,
some
a
row:
titled
cost
allocation..
So
that's
really
all
of
our
per
important
internal
services,.
Like
information,
technology.
hr,.
It's
basically
all
the
support
that
we
need
to
run.
It,
run
a
utility.
B
B
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:
and
then
we
have
a
bunch
of
reserves
listed
out
here.,
so
maybe
just
leave
these
for
questions..
We
can
talk
through
any
of
these
as
needed.,
then
we
have
a
final
fund
balance
after
reserves..
So
our
assumption
here
is
that
in
any
given
year
we
could
spend
all
of
these
reserves
and
that
that's
our
attitude
in
our
our
approach.
fortunately,,
most
years,,
we
don't
spend
any
of
them..
They
really
are
to
be
touched
only
when
needed.
Only
for
these
dedicated
uses.
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:
through
the
strategic
plan
over
time,.
We
need
to
build
up
a
fund
balance.,
so
then,
our
individual
year
rate
increase
is
overly
significant..
We've
we've
mentioned
this.
In
the
past,
we
try
to
smooth
out,
the
rate
increases..
If
we
drove
the
the
fund
balance
to
0
every
year,,
we
would
have
to
really
spike
an
individual
years
reading..
So
we
we
think
that's
the
wise,
proper
way.
B
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J
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J
K
Wrab
host
computer:
and-
and
at
this
point
we
across
all
utilities
in
the
cfp,
we're
paying
4%
costs,
annual
cost
inflation,
back.
and
really,.
That's
even
more
chris,.
Talking
about
just
here,
recently,
is,,
you
know,.
In
the
last
few
years,
we've
seen
some
some
significant
spikes.,
but
then
it's
normalizing
over.
B
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B
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B
K
B
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K
K
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
significant
effort
that
evaluated
and
then
determined
the
priorities
from
a
system
perspective.
now,.
This
is
implementation..
It's
just
suggestion.
To
avoid
other
confusion
like
I
had.,
you
may
want
to
actually
call
it
something
like
the
red
street
pipeline,,
because
that's
how
you
described
it
in
the
narrative.,
you
know
just
about..
It
means
your
way
to
correlate.
B
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:,
I
noticed
in
the
executive.
sorry
in
the
narrative
on
page
5.
It
said
the
barker
dam
outlet
works.
Rehab
would
be
13
million
in
2024.,
but
this
says
19.
and
and
that's
again,.
It's
a
combined,
because
there's
also
in
that
category.
it
is.
it's
the
parker
dam
work
plus
or
for
and
pipeline
work.
K
K
K
K
D
H
J
B
B
B
B
B
Wrab
host
computer:
have
strong
feelings,
about.
wrab
host
computer:.
I
would
welcome
different
perspective
if
you
have
some
insights
that
we
haven't
heard.
and
and
certainly,
amy,.
Looking
at
this,
one
here,
is
pulling
up
the
fun
financial
water
system
with
christine
going
to
this
details.,
but
you
look
and.
K
Wrab
host
computer:
got
2026..
We
do
see
a
low
point
in
that
fund
financial..
So
that's
we're
again
trying
to
balance
projects.
balance
rate
increases
to
not
have
that
and
and
balance
balance
borrowing
as
well.,
and
so
that's
that
that
and
flow,
that
we're
trying
to
to
to
continue
to
work.,
certainly
from
a
borrowing
perspective..
It's
the.
K
Wrab
host
computer:
in
some
of
the
older
bonds
has
a
limit
to
that,,
whereas
we're
above.
and
that's
a
1.5
to
there,
and
the
water
for
the
water
and
waste
water
function
actually
is
significantly
higher
than
that..
We
have
more..
We
could
go
advance
more
on
our
capacity
to
keep
those
numbers
up.,
so
average
is
starting
up.
Correct.
B
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F
B
B
B
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F
F
K
Wrab
host
computer:
so
reach
reach.,
one
is
related
to
work
around
a
north
walter
park
and
then
reach
2
is
related
to
work
around
the
western
campus
in
the
alpine.
Also
area.,
so
we're
looking
at
is
really
the
alpine.
all
some
work,
and
in
both
of
those
are
more
tied
to
the
those
inner
departmental
projects
that
we're
discussing.
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just
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flood.
where?
where?.
Where
would
one
find
that
that
is,
in
the
30%
design
information.?
This
is
based
out
of
that.
and
then
the
other
component?
Is
this
12
million
dollars
which
we're
coming,
the
land
back
position,
the
mitigation
portion
of
the
project.?
So
that's
combined.,
we're
in
the
summary
information.
we're
brought
up
both
into
the
6,.
The
current.
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and
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
unmute
yourself,
brandon
coleman:,
here.,
brandon,
coleman:
yeah.,
so
the
the
3
million
of
environmental
restoration,
that's
included
in
the
cost
estimate
for
the
project,
is
based
strictly
on
federal
environmental
mitigation,
offset
ratios,
and
then
the
additional
environmental
restoration
is
for
restoration
of
the
oso
to
meet
the
open
space
board
of
trustees.
Request
for
disposal
with
that
agreement..
So
they
are
2,
separate
tasks,
and
not
being
double
counted..
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Brandon
coleman:
yeah,
we've
been
working
with
the
army
core
of
engineers
for
our
4
or
4
clean
water
permit,,
and
through
that
process
we
consult
with
us
fish
and
wildlife..
So
we've
had
a
preliminary
meeting
with
us
fish
and
wildlife,
and
are
getting
ready
to
submit
our
draft
biological
assessment
to
the
core
to
be
submitted
to
fish
and
wildlife..
We've
also
submitted
for
a
special
use
permit
with
c.
dot.
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Brandon
coleman:
and
I
have
had
a
it's
called
a
field,
inspection
review
meeting
with
c.so
around
the
30%
design
stage..
So
we've
gotten
the
initial
comments
from
c.as
well,
and
then
the
intent
would
be
after
the
completion
of
our
60%
design..
We
would
submit
to
boulder
county,
city
of
boulder
and
also
fema,
for
our
floodplain
development.
Permits,
and
that'd
be
a
clomer.
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Wrab
host
computer:-
I
I
would
add
to
what
brandon
said,,
that
this
is
the
part
of
the
utility
that
I
started
my
career
in
managing
these
projects
and
for
for
a
project..
That's
this
far
out..
I
think
we're
reasonably
well
positioned
for
the
permit
and
the
approvals
that
we
need..
So
I
I
assume
that
might
be
behind
the
questions,.
How
much
risk
is
there
that.
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host
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so
I
might
want
to
jump
in
on
that,
and
and
chris
and
chris
don't
have
the
benefit
of
the
conversation
I
had
with
graham
on
friday
about
this,,
and
he
reminded
me
that
it
has
been
our
practice
when
we
do
major
capital
improvement
projects,
and
we
go
out
to
bid
the
contractors
find
it
really
important
that
you
have
all
of
the
money
in
hand.
and
and
so
that
has
been
our
flat
practice..
We're
planning
it
that
way.
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host
computer:
there's
a
contingency,
that's
built
in
for
unknown
things,,
and
that
is
much
larger
at
a
lesser
scale
of
design,
completion.,
so
30%
design,.
It
might
be
a
40%
contingency
or
something
like
that..
When
it
gets
to
60,.
We
know
more.,
we
have
a
details
out
from
there,,
so
it
might
drop
down
to
25.
and
then,
when
we
get
to
the
90%
and
get
getting
ready
to
bid.
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host
computer:,
but
I
don't
think
any
of
us
think
we're
gonna
do
36
separate
projects.,
because
a
lot
of
those
will
circumstantially
probably
be
groups
or
or
organize
such
that,.
You
know
we'll
mobilize
and
and
combine
them.
and
there'll,
be
a
lesser
number
of
projects.
Overall..
I
think
that's
the.