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Ad Hoc Budget Advisory Committee 4/5/2023
A
A
Obviously
this
is
our
first
year
so
we're
trying
to
do
kind
of
everything
all
at
once
and
so
we're
ready
to
disperse
those
funds
that
were
collected
from
this
first
year
of
the
bid
to
the
CDA
into
the
bid
operator,
which
Jane
is
going
to
be
overseeing
for
that
group,
and
we
wanted
to
really
quickly
get
a
presentation
on
what
the
expected
expenses
for
the
year
are
anticipated
to
be
in
the
kind
of
the
work
program.
A
This
is
really
a
kickoff
year
for
the
bid,
and
so
there'll
be
a
number
of
things
that
they'll
get
started
this
year
and
then
they'll
be
in
full
production
for
next
year.
One
of
the
big
ones
is
the
ambassador
program.
I'll.
Let
Jane
go
into
more
detail
on
that,
but
real
quickly,
Gene
Jenkins
is
joining
the
the
CDA
in
the
bid
from
work
that
she's
done
elsewhere
and
I'll.
Let
her
go
into
her
background,
but
we
in
planning
with
BNS
Meg.
A
We
are
super
excited
to
have
her
join
the
CDA
team
and
kind
of
be
the
the
founding
director
if
you
would
for
the
bid
just
she
brings
us
such
a
wealth
of
experience
to
this
that
this
will
help
ensure
that
the
Charleston
experience
will
will
be
completely
on
an
upward,
direct
trajectory
and
in
good
hands.
So
with
that
Jane.
A
B
Thank
you,
Robert
and
good
afternoon
to
the
mayor
and
the
members
of
the
city
council,
as
Robert
said:
I'm
Jane,
Jenkins
and
I'm,
serving
as
the
interim
executive
for
the
Charleston
downtown
alliance,
with
the
specific
purpose
of
launching
the
business
improvement.
B
District
I
have
over
37
years
in
downtown
management
experience
most
recently,
I
spent
14
years
as
the
president
and
CEO
of
the
downtown
Oklahoma
City
partnership
and
prior
to
that,
I
served
nine
to
ten
years
as
the
president
and
CEO
of
the
downtown
Boulder
Boulder
Colorado
partnership
and
then
in
various
Main
Street
programs.
Before
that,
I
actually
have
a
connection
to
Charleston.
My
family
moved
to
Mount
Pleasant
in
the
very
early
70s
and
so
I
finished
high
school
there,
and
so
my
all
my
entire
family
still
lives
here.
B
I
say
that
if
I'm
love
related
to
them,
they
live
in
Charleston
on
Daniel
Island,
my
parents
and
my
sister
lives
on
John's
Island
and
her
children
live
in
Charleston
too.
So
this
is
kind
of
a
homecoming.
B
For
me,
when
I
was
in
when
I
was
in
college,
I
spent
my
breaks
my
summer
spring
break
Christmas
break
working
for
the
for
Bob
Reagan,
who
was
then
the
tax
assessor
for
Charleston,
County
and
I
worked
in
the
tax
assessor's
office,
so
I
know
what
a
TMS
number
is,
and
so
I'm
excited
to
be
able
to
be
here,
working
in
familiar
territory
and
and
being
able
to
launch
this
bid
for
King
Street.
B
Needless
to
say,
King
Street
has
changed
a
great
deal
in
the
year
since
I
spent
extended
time
here
and
but
it's
still
an
exciting
place
to
be.
I
wrote
my
high
school
senior
English
term
paper
in
the
library
that
is
now
the
hotel
Bennett.
So
you
know,
there's
been
quite
a
few
changes
since
then,
so
is,
is
somebody's
gonna
run
my
slides,
or
do
you
want
me
to
do
them?
B
B
B
So
we
are
the
Charleston
downtown,
Alliance
and
I
show.
This
is
our
draft
budget
for
the
fiscal
year.
23
I
know
we're
still
working
on
a
draft,
but
what
I
wanted
to
show
you
in
that
first
slide?
Is
we
actually
do
have
a
logo?
Now
it
will
go
before
the
board
meeting
tomorrow
and
there
will
also
be
a
king
history
bid
logo
that
we're
still
working
on.
But
but
this
is
like
brand
new,
hot
off
the
press
and
so
the
first
time
anybody
else
has
seen
it
so
moving
on.
B
This
is
kind
of
an
overview
of
the
budget
and
you'll
see
this
again
at
the
end.
So
you
don't
have
to
try
to
capture
all
the
numbers,
but
if
you
look
at
the
totals
at
the
bottom,
the
annual
budget
total
for
for
CDA
is
approximately
1.1
million
dollars
and
that's
what
was
initially
budgeted
in
the
operations
agreement
or
the
Improvement
plan
for
downtown
of
that.
B
We
anticipate
730,
000
or
approximately
two-thirds
of
of
those
dollars
to
come
from
the
assessment,
the
business
improvement
district
and
then
approximately
370,
000
or
a
third
of
the
budget
to
come
from
other
sources
and
so
either
in
kind
or
other
sources
and
we're
still
determining
what
those
are.
So.
D
B
Forward
I'm
going
to
kind
of
go
through
our
buckets
and
and
where
we
are
with
each
with
each
line
item
here.
B
B
That
means
it's
an
in-kind
service
later
on,
you'll,
see
blue
and
the
blue
will
represent
either
a
partnership
or
a
a
different
type
of
funding
source
other
than
other
than
the
assessment,
so
block
by
block
services
are
primarily
for
hospitality
and
clean
and
safe
and
I,
just
basically
copied
a
couple
of
the
pictures
of
ambassadors
from
Jacksonville
Florida
to
show
you
that
they
will
be
greeting
the
public
and
representing
downtown
and
King
Street,
as
well
as
cleaning
and
sweeping
and
and
such
as
that
they
actually
started
today
and
they're
in
training.
B
We
have
five
full-time
employees
and
they
are
in
training
today,
and
so
that
means
in
about
two
weeks,
they're
going
to
be
on
the
street
and
you'll
start
to
see
them.
You
know
on
King,
Street,
doing
their
jobs.
B
The
rent
and
utilities
for
block
by
block
for
their
operations
center
will
be
provided
by
the
bid,
and
then
vehicle
parking
is
being
graciously
covered
by
the
City
of
Charleston.
So
that's
why
that's
marked
in
yellow
this
makes
up
of
the
big
funds.
This
is
over
50
percent
of
the
bid
Revenue
that
will
go
towards
this
program
and
I
think
that
this
was
identified
as
probably
the
greatest
need.
B
As
an
aside,
let
me
tell
you
that
I,
just
I
I
launched
a
program
similar
to
this
in
Oklahoma
City
about
two
years
ago,
and
it
has
made
an
absolute
world
of
difference
and
branding
and
image
and
in
the
appearance
of
of
downtown
Oklahoma
City.
So
I
think
you'll
be
very
pleased
and
it's
the
same
company
block
by
block
okay
next
slide.
B
Our
next
budget,
our
next
bucket
item,
is
beautification,
and
many
of
you
are
familiar
with
the
flower
baskets
that
are
along
King
Street.
Well,
we've
put
these
in
our
budget.
What
we
hope
to
get
partners
that
can
help
us
take
care
of
the
expense
of
Maintenance
and
keeping
those
and
keeping
those
beautiful.
B
But
we
are
going
to
add
some
of
our
own
flowers
to
to
King
Street
we're
going
to
start
with
the
flower
trees,
and
you
see
a
picture
of
them
on
the
slide,
the
pink
flowers
we
will
have
four
of
these
and
they
will
be
on
the
corner
of
Calhoun
and
King.
B
Street
there'll
be
one
on
each
Corner,
which
is
of
course,
a
very
significant
Corner
in
our
Corridor
and
and-
and
so
we
hope
to
get
started
on
this
really
soon,
because
it
will
make
a
huge
difference
again
at
that
at
intersection
and
then,
when
I
say
other
Landscaping,
we
have
yet
to
determine
what
the
needs
are
until
we
get
the
ambassadors
out
on
the
street
and
we
kind
of
get
feedback
from
them.
So
moving
forward
with
the
slides
we
have
program
and
destination
management.
B
The
bid
is
not.
It
is
not
contributing
or
are
focusing
a
lot
on
this
particular
line
item
in
this
particular
year,
because
we
feel
like
we
have
to
get
the
physical
appearance
and
the
ambassadors
launched
Etc.
But
what
one
of
the
things
we
are
going
to
do
is
programming
development,
we're
going
to
look
at
trying
to
do
a
calendar
for
small
programs
and
such
as
that
to
kind
of
know
what
would
fit
in.
B
We
have
to
look
at
what
else
is
out
there
and
then
we
will
look
to
our
partners
and
sponsors
for
implementation
of
either
an
event
or
a
program,
neurals
and
art
installation,
and
then,
of
course,
some
of
you
I
met
at
a
meeting
last
month
where
we
talked
about
holiday,
decor
and
again.
This
is
another
in-kind
service
from
the
city
for
the
tree
and
activities
on
Marion
Square.
We
are
going
to
look
at
what
else
we
might
be
able
to
contribute,
but
I'll
tell
you
right
now
for
this
budget.
B
B
Is
marketing
and
promotion,
Communications
and
collateral
again
is
going
to
be
a
partnership
between
the
bid
and
then
other
organization
and
I
know
that?
That's
not,
you
know
rather
broad,
but
you
see
kind
of
another
flyer
from
Jackson
Jacksonville.
B
This
is
this
is
to
advertise
for
hiring
ambassadors,
but
there
will
be
something
that
looks
similar
to
this,
that
we
will
develop
once
we
get
the
ambassadors
out
on
the
street
that
we
will
deliver
to
each
business
on
King,
Street
and
and
others
so
that
they
will
know,
and
so
they
can
identify
the
ambassadors
and
they
will
know
what
to
expect.
B
That's
one
of
our
priorities
is
to
communicate
the
fact
that
the
program
is
going
to
be
on
the
street
and
as
part
of
that,
we'll
look
at
some
general
branding
and
identity
I
happen
to
see
today.
I'm
sorry
I
couldn't
get
here
this
weekend,
but
I
saw
the
banners
on
around
downtown
for
the
for
the
Bridge,
Run
and
I
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
at
least
on
King
Street,
put
some
branding
of
our
of
our
logos
for
King
Street
and
such
on
some
banners
there.
B
This
is
just
a
brand
new
thing:
I,
don't
know
what
the
rules
are
surrounding
it,
so
just
just
know
that
it's
just
an
idea
and
then
we
have
to
get
a
landing
page
and
our
website
kicked
off
and
running
and
we
are
still
working
on
trying
to
get
access
to
the
URLs
that
were
reserved
for
that
website.
But
I
promise.
You
that's
a
huge
priority
for
me,
because
I
want
to
be
able
to
point
people
to
that
website.
B
B
Okay,
Economic
Development.
The
first
thing
that
the
board
has
expressed
an
interest
in
is
an
economic
impact
study
and
I,
just
put
as
a
visual
there,
the
cover
of
the
one
that
we
just
completed
or
is
actually
still
in
progress
for
Bricktown
in
Oklahoma
City.
B
This
will
be
our
main
project
for
for
this
fiscal
year.
To
get
this
done
and
again,
is
it
going
to
be
a
partnership?
The
bid
will
donate
some
dollars
and
hopefully,
we'll
have
partners
that
will
donate
some
dollars
to
getting
this
done.
The
first
thing
we
have
to
do
is
get
an
RFP
and
get
some
responses
to
that,
but
we're
also
going
to
focus
on
Recruitment
and
Retention.
B
Of
course,
we
think
that
what
we're
doing
with
the
ambassador
program
and
the
fact
that
we
have
a
downtown
organization
and
that
we're
representing
the
property
owners
and
the
businesses
is
the
best
form
of
business
retention
that
there
is,
and
so
that
will
sort
of
be
ongoing,
but
we're
also
going
to
look
to
work
with
Partners
our
property
owners,
our
Brokers
and
such
as
that
on
the
recruitment
side
of
things
probably
later
to
come.
B
But
there's
the
international
Council
of
shopping,
centers
and
other
organizations
that
I've
worked
with
in
the
past
for
for
retail
recruitment,
so
we
hope
to
to
be
able
to
at
least
have
that
this
is
part
of
our
our
plan
anyway.
To
get
this
done
and
then
next,
oh
I,
don't
have
any
visuals
for
this.
This
is
just
the
organizational
stuff
with
overhead
and
management.
B
We
have
a
budget
for
salaries
and
benefits,
I'm,
actually
a
1099
employee,
currently
with
a
six-month
contract
that
will
expire
in
August,
but
it
can
be
renewed
if
we're
not
where
we
want
to
be
to
hire
full-time
staff,
there
will
be
some
business
travel,
memberships,
I
think
this
is
important.
We
will
join
the
international
Downtown
Association,
the
Urban
Land
Institute
and
the
international
Economic
Development
Council
to
be
able
to
develop
relationships
within
those
organizations
and
and
bring
contacts
and
services
to
to
downtown
Charleston.
Also,
some
Professional
Services
legal
accounting
Etc.
B
We
have
to
have
television
telephone
and
then,
of
course,
a
PO
box
and
Postage
and
insurance.
All
of
these
things
will
be
covered
by
the
bid.
The
office,
the
parking
supplies,
equipment
and
internet
services
are
all
going
to
be
donated
in
kind.
So
that's
why
that
color
is
yellow
and
then
I
think
I
have
one
more
slide:
Maybe,
okay.
So
this
is
back
to
the
to
the
all
over
budget
to
see.
If
I
can
answer
any
questions
about
where
we
are.
B
If
you
look
at
Street
server
services
and
Ambassador
programs,
you'll
see
our
annual
budget,
for
that
is
427
840
and
of
that
424
000
is
going
to
come
from
the
bid
and
in
this
particular
case,
3840
of
it
is
coming
in
kind
in
this
case
from
the
city,
and
you
can
read
it
that
way,
all
the
way
down
for
street
beautification.
We
have
a
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
budgeted.
B
The
bid
is
going
to
cover
50
000
of
that
and
other
or
in-kind
Partners,
we'll
cover
125.,
and
so
you
can
just
sort
of
read
down
that
way
to
see
where
we
end
up
at
the
bottom
line,
which
is
roughly
1.1
million
dollars
for
an
annual
budget
with
730
coming
from
the
assessment
and
approximately
370
coming
from
in
kind
or
other
sources.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
B
If
anyone
has
any
I
know
that
numbers
and
budgets
are
are
kind
of,
you
know
out
there,
but
we
do
not
have
an
approved
budget
from
the
board
yet,
and
so
that's
but
I
wanted
to
get
it
in
front
of
you,
rather
than
waiting
for
the
board
and
actually
I
am
kind
of
looking
at
this
particular
budget
as
the
work
plan
for
FY
23,
at
least
for
this
year
and
then
moving
into
the
beginning
of
FY
24,
because
the
the
budget
specifies
projects
and
something
specifically
that
we're
going
to
work
on.
B
A
And
Amy
and
members
of
council,
that
was
the
intention
with
this
item,
with
the
understanding
that
we
would
be
doing
our
disbursement
of
the
assessment
to
the
CBA
they've
they've
supplied
bfrc
with
the
necessary
documentation,
that's
needed
so
that
we
can
do
that
so
that
they
can
get
started
with
things,
including
rollout
of
the
ambassador
program.
B
F
So
Jane
mayor
tecklenburg
here.
F
Return
home
so
to
speak,
but
also
because
of
the
terrific
background
you
have
experience
that
you
have
with
this
sort
of
thing
so
that
it
just
seems
seems
made
in
heaven.
Welcome.
So
thank
you
just
curious.
You
I
I,
couldn't
see
the
screen,
but
you
mentioned
marketing
and
Banners,
and
all
like
that,
I
was
just
curious.
Whether
we
thought
of
using
like
a
new
name
or
I
mean.
Are
we
marketing
our
thing
as
the
CDA,
the
Charleston
development,
Alliance
or
or
downtown
Alliance,
or
or
did
y'all?
B
Well,
I
think
the
the
Charleston
downtown
Alliance
is
kind
of
like
the
umbrella
Organization
for
whatever
might
grow
out
of
these
efforts,
and
so
we
are
going
to
be
using
using
that.
But
we're
also
going
to
have
a
logo
and
specifically
brand
King
Street,
because
the
assessment
dollars
that
are
there
are
are
coming
from
the
property
owners
on
King
Street
and
so
that
that
logo
is
still
being
worked
on.
You
know,
but
the
Ambassador,
as
well
as
a
color
palette,
but
the
ambassadors
will
will
be
branded
with
both
logos.
B
But
we
want
people
to
to
know
that
that
this
is
the
you
know.
The
Charleston
downtown
Alliance
is
really
the
parent
organization.
That's
the
organization
that
technically
that
I
am
working
for
now
and
where
we
will
put
all
of
our
you
know,
payroll
and
and
such
as
such
as
that.
But
right
no.
F
D
F
Somebody
walking
on
the
street
would
see
like
on
your
uniform
or
your
sign:
you're
you're,
gonna
you're,
saying
you're
gonna
accentuate
King
Street.
B
Yes,
I
think
that
makes
sense.
Yes,
there
will
be
a
brand
for
King,
Street
and
and
and
while
it
will
be
the
prominent
brand,
there
will
also
be
either
we're
waiting
to
get
like
a.
We
have
the
Charleston
downtown
Alliance
logo,
but
we're
also
going
to
have
a
CDA
logo
that
can
like
go
on
the
sleeve,
but
the
main
brand
will
be
will
be
with
King
Street
and
at
least
while
I've
been
involved
mayor.
There
hasn't
been
any
discussion
of
any
other
alternate
brand
other
than
the
Charleston
downtown
Alliance.
B
G
Home
Amy
will
we
go
to
the
fees
next
right.
E
Yes,
sorry,
let
me
share
my
screen
again
and
then
just
to
kind
of
talk
about
this
a
little
bit.
So
what
this
had
all
kind
of
happened
a
little
weird
because,
with
the.
C
E
A
Charleston,
downtown
Alliance
I
mean
because
of
the
way
the
the
calendar
approach
really
when
we
approved
everything
so
we'll
be
doing
this
more
in
during
our
budget
process,
we'll
be
bringing
it
Forward
before
our
during
our
budget
process,
so
it
kind
of
all
lines
up
just
to
like.
Let
you
know
that.
That's
how
it'll
work
going
forward.
Okay,
it's
just
the
way.
The
timing
of
everything
worked,
that
it
was
a
little
different
this
year,
sure
so
everybody's
good
with
that
we
can
move
forward.
E
Yes,
okay,
so
just
a
quick
update
on
our
current
city
fees,
we're
meeting
with
departments
and
working
on
updating
schedules,
we're
planning
to
have
most
of
those
changes
updated
prior
to
the
end
of
2023,
but
some
of
them
might
also
have
to
go
into
the
2024
budget,
just
depending
on
timing
and
and
how
quickly
we
can
review
everything
and
make
it
I'm
sure
everything
is
is
squared
away.
E
This
is
what
we're
looking
at
so
right
now
we're
actively
working
on
motor
coach
permits,
tourism,
ticket
fees,
Carriage,
Medallion
fees,
tour
guide,
study,
notes
and
special
event.
Fees
were
of
established,
work
groups
for
building
inspection
permits,
engineering
permits
and
garbage
cart
fees,
and
we
still
have
to
schedule
and
start
working
on
fire
permanent
storm
water
permits
and
certificate
of
public
conveyance.
Just
to
kind
of
let
you
know
where
we
are.
E
Okay,
so
additional
fees,
because
we
had
some
of
this
discussion,
we
had
some
homework.
We
needed
to
do
for
all
of
you
from
the
last
meeting
that
we
were
in
and
we
told
you
we
would
get
Woodland
building
and
tourism
and
start
looking
at
what
these
other
local
governments
are
charging
for
for
tourism
or
tourists.
E
What
we
found
is
that
other
municipalities
are
in
South,
Carolina
are
solely
relying
on
Hospitality
fees
and
state
and
local
accommodations
taxes
just
like
we
are,
and
you
know
that
those
are
restricted
for
the
most
part,
to
promoting
tourism,
not
necessarily
mitigating
the
impact
of
Tourism
on
our
cities,
and
you
know,
there's
a
counties
that
collect
the
threshold
of
Revenue
over
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
or
more
are
allowed
to
utilize.
The
funds
for
the.
E
Of
Public,
Safety,
Services
and
other
government
service
to
tourists,
and
we
we
do
do
that.
I
just
want
to
remind
you
of
that,
and
that's
how
we
came
up
with
that
calculation
during
our
2023
budget
discussions
and
how
we're
transferring
more
money
from
Hospitality
into
our
general
fund.
So
we
are
doing
that
to
the
extent
that
we
feel
we
can
justify
those
costs.
So
I
just
wanted
to
remind
you
of
that
and
then
other
South
Carolina,
municipalities
of
charge
permits
and
fees
for
bus
and
carriage
tours
as
well.
E
E
However,
the
rates
are
not
capped
like
ours
are,
so
you
know
that
we're
grandfathered
into
our
Accommodations
Tax
in
our
Hospitality
fee,
but
it
has
to
the
state,
restricts
us
to
three
percent
within
the
county
and
four,
but
we're
at
four
percent,
because
county
has
two
and
we
have
two
because
we're
grandfathered
in,
but
really
if
something
happened,
the
county
would
have
the
two
percent
and
we
would
only
be
allowed
to
do
one
percent.
E
So
when
I,
whenever
I
say
we
need
to
be
careful
about
what
we're
doing
with
all
this,
so
that
we
don't
lose
our
grandfathered
status.
That's
what
that's!
What
could
happen
because
that's
how
it's
it's
capped
for
jurisdiction
and
County
so
because
we're
grandfathered
in
we
can
have
that
two
percent.
Does
that
make
sense,
and
it's
the
same
with
hospitality
as
well.
E
So
that's
how
they
they
restrict
us.
So
they
restrict
us
in
the
way
that
we
can
use
the
fee,
the
money
and
or
the
taxes
fees
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
and
they're
also
restricting
the
amount
that
we
can
charge
as
well,
so
we're
restricted
in
both
ways
and
then
other
taxes
are
also
assessed
in
other
states,
such
as
room
or
excise
taxes
with
a
flat
rate
fee
per
night
on
hotel
rooms,
which
is
kind
of
sort
of
what
council,
members,
seekings
and
council
member
of
how
we're
talking
about
the
last
meeting.
E
But
those
are
taxes,
they're,
not
fees
and
they're
called
excise
taxes
on
the
hotels,
hotels,
but
Hotel
bills.
Again.
This
is
other
states,
not
South
Carolina
I'm,
just
kind
of
giving
you
information
to
think
about
and
those
taxes
seem
to
be.
They
can
use
those
for
other
services
like
roads
and
bridges,
but
that's
outside
of
South
Carolina.
So
we
did
find
that
in
other
states.
So
that
was
something
like
that,
since
the
tax
we
would
have
to
go
to
the
state
to
get
permission
to
do
something
like
that.
H
E
What
happened
is
we
we
already
had
our
two
percent,
the
state
after
we
had
already
established
those
that
two
percent,
the
state
changed
it
and
put
a
cap
on
it,
but
because
we
had
already,
we
were
already
at
two
percent.
They
couldn't
take
it
away
from
us.
So
that's
what
I
mean
about
grandfathered
in
so
if
we
weren't
already
a
part
of
that
and
hadn't
already
charged
a
two
percent,
we
we.
G
E
E
We
did
so
anyway,
that's
what
we
noticed
for
other
states
and
then
larger
cities
and
international
destinations.
They
do
like
a
head
tax
or
an
entrance
fee.
E
Those
are
usually
assessed
at
the
point
of
entry
through
Airlines
airports-
Etc,
probably
maybe
even
cruise
ships
or
whatever
or
on
hotels
days,
but
these
are
typically
collected
or
admitted
to
local
governments,
but
rather
to
a
regional
Authority
or
a
larger
governmental
entity,
servicing
multiple
jurisdictions.
E
So
those
are
just
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
found
on
fees
related
to
tourism
anyway,
to
kind
of
give
us
a
point
of
reference
and
talking
points,
I
guess,
so
our
challenges
are
in
terms
of
using
these
fees
for
mitigating
the
impacts
of
Tourism,
as
the
state
restricts
our
Revenue
sources.
E
What
could
ever
governments
can't
enact
new
taxes
unless
we
go
through
the
State
Assembly
and
our
ours
are
restricted
either
in
use
or
the
tax
rate
is
capped
or
both
actually,
and
so
you
know
one
of
those
things.
One
thing
we
could
do
is
maybe
Lobby
the
state
to
allow
us
to
use
our
tourism
fees
for
more
purposes
and
not
to
have
them
as
restricted
to
tourism,
leading
or
putting
more
heads
in
beds,
but
actually
to
help
us
mitigate
the
cost
of
Tourism.
E
So
that's
just
what
we
found
and
looking
at
all
of
that
I
don't
know
if
that's
helpful
or
not,
but.
G
E
E
G
E
E
E
E
And
now
whether
they
would
allow
us,
like
the
other
like
like
I,
said
other
states,
this
is
South
Carolina.
They
allow
to
allow
them
to
use
it
for
other
purposes.
We
would
have
to
make
sure
that
they
would
also
allow
us
to
use
it
for
their
purposes
other
than
tourism,
as
well,
so
their
excise
tax
on
Hotel
bills.
They
can
use
it
for
other
purposes.
Now,
I,
don't
know
what
South
Carolina
would
do
so.
G
Because
the
reason
why
I
ask
is
that
Keith
and
I
were
having
a
discussion
at
dinner
last
night
regarding
a
one
percent.
G
Fee
for
every
deed-
and
it's
being
done
and
I
may
not
be
explaining
this
correctly.
That's
what
I
wanted
Keith
on
and
because
I
it's
my
understanding
that
Daniel
Island
does
it
for
every
new
deed.
They
get
one
percent
of
the
price
of
the
property
or
something
are
you
familiar
with
that.
E
C
Have
to
go
back
and
look
but
I'm
sure
that's
right!
It
was
built
into
the
the
project
when
they,
when
they
did
it,
sort
of
like,
what's
being
proposed
at
Union
Pier
with
transfer
fees.
It's
right,
the
Deeds
that
you're
that
you,
when
you
take
your
property
as
a
member
of
the
HOA,
there's,
there's
fees
on
top
of
you
as
a
matter
of
deed
recordation.
So
it's
by
contract.
G
Okay,
because
I
mean
what
would
we
probably
do,
what
billions
and
D
transfer
annually
yeah
I
mean
I?
Think
it's
something
worth
pursuing.
I.
G
I
mean
by
whoever
to
me
it's
just
worthy
of
further
discussion
and
investigation,
especially
if,
if
we
know
that
it
was
built
in
in
another
part
of
the
city's
HOA
well,
perhaps
it
doesn't
have
to
necessarily
be
the
HOA
I
just
want
some
research
done
on
it,
so
that
we
can
and
can
figure
out
if
it's
something
that
we
can
do
in
addition
to
to
what
we
may
be
doing
and
similar
with
with
you-
need
peer
I'm
trying
to
see
if
we
can
do
that
across
the
board.
F
G
Okay,
is
there
any
other
issues
we
need
to
deal
with
Amy.
F
G
F
Gregory,
yes
back
at
my
office
by
the
way
just
got
here,
but
for
some
reason
it's
not
letting
me
connect
with
my
computer
but
anyway
just
maybe
this
is
a
just
a
four-year
information
or
of
a
note
of
interest
that
at
the
James
Johns
Island
task
force
meeting
that
I
left
just
before
getting
on
this
call.
F
They
had
a
list
of
City
issues
that
that
they
wanted
to
address
this
year
and
Christopher
Morgan
from
planning
department
was
there,
so
we
we
were
representative
represented,
but
one
of
them
was
in
fact
asking
about
the
the
the
mid,
the
municipal
improvement
district
that
we
had
talked
about
for
John's,
Island
and
you
know
I
know
not
everybody
out.
There
is
for
it,
but
this
particular
group
I
think
supports
it,
and
so
so
so
they
were
asked.
Is
there
any
news
on
our
mid?
F
We
we
want
to
see
whether
the
city
is
going
to
pursue
that.
So
we
can
get
some
infrastructure
money
out
here
for
the
island,
so
I
just
put
that
in
everybody's
ear.
Okay,.
D
D
I
mean
if
we
had
the
the
grievance
procedure
and
all
that
so
I
I
think
Julia
said
we
may
need
one
more
reading.
Okay,.
G
E
F
Okay,
it
seemed
to
me
it's
kind
of
on
pause
and
then
this
other
feed
discussion
came
up
and
we
were
kind
of
waiting
to
see
which
way
we
were
going
to
go
I
thought.
So
if
it's
just
one
more
reading
away,
then
that's
that's.
That's
news
that
we
can
pass
along
to
them.
E
F
Else,
I'm
back
the
only
other
feel
like
we
talked
about
before
I.
Don't
think
council
member
seekings
about
two
two
positive
about
it
was
trying
to
get
a
some
kind
of
Highway
roadway,
Improvement
fund
going
on
and,
of
course,
what
they
did
in
Greenville
County
was,
and
a
car
registration
fee
or
car
fee
vehicle
fee
for
Road
improvements
to
to
your
car
registration
fee
and
and
or
property
tax
I'd
certainly
be
open.
If
anybody
had
any
ideas
of
well
but
but.
G
F
If
anybody's
got
an
idea,
how
they
just
invoice
a
feed
to
tourists
for
our
roadways,
my
ears
are
wide
open.
C
G
C
I
am
here
sorry,
yeah
I
mean
I
I,
think.
Definitely
your
councilmember
Gregory,
sorry,
you're,
correct
and
sort
of
in
the.
In
the
framework
of
the
discussion
we
had
with
the
mayor,
I
I
did
believe
that
we
should
look
at
ways
to
Levy
some
fees
on
rep
tourists
rather
than
residents,
and
you
know,
starting
and
leading
out
of
the
box
with
a
car
registration
fee
would
be
hitting
or
residents
not
or
tourists.
I
I
think
you
know,
I
mean
we.
C
C
If
we're
going
to
Levy
additional
fees
and
I
would
certainly
look
to
the
tourist
tourism
industry
first
rather
than
the
residents
who
live
here
and
I
I
do
think
some
form
of
a
head
fee,
slash
tax
on
visitors
that
can
be
levied
somehow
through
the
hospitality
ranks
is
probably
a
good
place
to
start.
But
again,
that's
just
one
person,
thinking
and
sure.
There's
plenty
of
other
ideas
out
there.
C
Definitely,
but
you
know
if
you,
if
you,
if
you
go
back
to
the
residents
and
say
well,
we've
gone
through
this
whole
process.
We've
thought
about
ways
to
sort
of
raise
revenues
in
the
city
and
we've
got
eight
million
visitors
and
we've
got
150
000
residents
on
our
number.
One
idea
is
to
hit
you
with
a
car
tax.
I
think
there'll
probably
be
some
questions,
so
I
think
probably
balancing
that
against
some
ways
to
raise
revenue
from
the
8
million
is
a
good
thing
at
least
be
thinking
about.
C
Well,
I
I,
mayor
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
I
have
a
hundred
percent
proposal
for
this,
but
I
do
think
the
the
avenue
to
do
it
is
somehow
through
the
accommodations
fees
that
will
be
raised
and
I
get
it
and
I
I
heard
Amy
and
I'm
certainly
well
aware
of
the
fact
that
we're
one
percent
above
where
we
otherwise
might
be
when
we
split
between
the
city
and
the
county
but
I,
think
that's
the
area.
We're
gonna
have
to
get
help
from
the
counties.
The
legislature
anyway.
C
Right
so
the
biggest
use
of
of
people
who
are
visiting
here
sort
of
in
terms
of
gross
dollars
is
in
a
hotel,
there's
others
right,
I
mean
they
rate
carriages
and
they
do
other
things
in
the
tourism
area,
but
to
identify
a
way
to
raise
monies
from
people
who
are
visiting
here
from
50
miles
away
for
more
than
one
night
at
a
time.
I
I
think
the
the
Hotel
Avenue
is
the
place
to
look
so
without
a
specific
proposal.
That
would
certainly
be
the
Avenue
that
I
think
we
should
pursue
what.
E
There
definition
was
is
a
lot
more
different
than
ours,
so
ours
is
like
90
days
of
people
visiting
for
90
days
and
a
lot
of
States
it's
six
months
as
well.
So
there's
that
difference,
there's
just
a
a
lot
of
this.
Other
states
are
a
lot
less
restrictive,
but
councilmember
seekinges.
If
we
can
look
into
that
excise
tax
sort
of.
C
To
do
that,
there's
other
cities
that
are
doing
it.
I,
don't
really
I've,
never
gone
back
and
looked
at
the
particulars
of
how
they
do
it.
The
one
that
comes
to
mind
the
easy
one
sort
of
to
talk
about
is
Venice.
Venice
has
a
25
ahead,
visitor
fee
tax.
How
they're
collecting
it
I
have
no
earthly
idea.
Other
than
Venice
is
a
one-way
in
one
way
out
place,
and
maybe
there
literally
is
a
game
at
the
country,
but
but
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
way
to
look
at.
C
It
is
somehow
to
to
figure
out
a
way
to
collect
it
in
the
most
efficient
legal
manner
to
take
the
onus
off
residence
and
put
it
back
on
visitors
now.
That
being
said,
it's
going
to
take
some
work
but
I
think
as
a
matter
of
policy.
We
at
this,
as
this
commit
committee
and
as
a
council,
should
sort
of
at
least
try
to
prioritize
our
efforts
and
then
talk
to
our
lobbyists
in
Colombia,
talk
to
the
county
and
see
the
different
avenues
that
are
available
to
us
or
might
be.
C
If
we
go
out
and
sort
of
argue
our
case,
I
mean
just
go,
be
Advocates
right,
I
think
that's
what
we
got
to
do
and
I
think
mayor.
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
this.
But
if
we
wanted
to
Levy
a
car
tax,
we'd
have
to
go,
get
some
help
too
I.
Don't
think
we
can
just
do
that
off
the
cuff.
So
if
we're
going
to
go,
you
know,
exercise
lobbying
activities,
let's
see
if
we
can
hit
the
tourists
first
rather
than
the
residents.
That's
kind
of
my
general
policy
thesis.
F
Okay,
yeah,
it's
I,
think
in
Venice
you're
right,
there's
just
that.
Basically
one
point
on
and
off
the
old
historic
City
I
think
I,
remember
years
and
years
ago,
when
I
went
there
that
you
had
to
pay
a
little
few
dollars
when
you
went
across
the
public
transportation
into
the
city
as
a
kind
of
overall
feat.
But
you
know
we
can't
do
I,
don't
see
how
you
do
that
here.
That'd.
C
Be
tough
right,
I
mean
you
got
to
capture
them
in
a
place
where
they
are
for
more
than
a
second
right.
You
know
the
other
place
to
look
and
I'm
just
thinking
off
the
cuff.
Now
I
don't
have
a
sort
of
road
map
to
this,
but
it's
special
events
and
you
know
we've
got
some
pretty
large
special
events
out
there.
Are
we
capitalizing
on
those
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
that's
something
to
think
about
as
well.
C
Great
I
mean
I,
think
Amy,
that's
another
place
because
you
know
large-scale
special
events
and
Lord
knows
we've
got
lots
of
them.
We
saw
one
this
past
weekend
and
we've
seen
three
in
the
last
five
weeks
or
six
weeks.
You
know
that's
a
pass-through
anyway,
so
it's
just
something
we
ought
to
think
about
and
look
at
because
you
know
between
the
bridge
one,
what
I
like
to
actually
call
North
Charleston,
Wine
and
Food,
but
Charleston
line
of
food
and
seaweed.
That's
a
hundred
thousand
hundred
twenty
thousand
people
to
come
through
here.
C
C
I'm
happy
to
sort
of
Mayor
sort
of
go
and
do
a
little
advanced
work
on
that
and
report
back
to
what
I
find
and
anyone
else
wants
to
join
in
come
on
we'll
go
see
what
we
can
see
what
we
can
divide.
What
are
really
the
question
sitting
here
at
the
bottom
of
the
governmental
rung
is:
what
are
our
statutory
limitations
correct?
If
we
have
them,
how
do
we
get
around
them
and
if
we
have
to
get
around
them
or
get
through
them,
do
we
have
some
support
at
some
level
above
us
to
do
that?
F
Yeah-
and
it
may
be
true
in
some
cases
like
the
one
that
scares
me-
is
Accommodations
Tax,
because
I
don't
want
to
upset
the
apple
cart,
but
I
thought
the
whole
conversation
about
this
new
Act
was
that
we
could,
you
know,
put
in
place
a
fee
on
our
own,
so
to
speak
without
having
to
go,
get
permission
in
Colombia.
F
Right,
that's
what
brought
up
the
idea
about
Greenville,
because
that
that
was
the
same
scenario.
They
didn't
have
to
get
permission
from
the
legislature
now
that
that
passed
to
legally
collect
that
fee,
but
I
I
get
it
I'd
rather
get
money
for
visitors
and
residents.
If
I
could
that's
my
top
preference
and.
C
E
Yeah,
we'll
we'll
still
we're
still
going
to
keep
working
on
all
this,
so
we'll
just
you
know,
keep
keep
everybody
up
to
date.
G
C
It's
amazing,
I,
think
council
members
there's
a
lot
of
cities
that
don't-
and
you
know,
there's
not
a
lot
of
cities
that
really
are
like
ours.
I
mean
just
think
of
the
the
ratios
that
we're
talking
about
150
000
residents
and
808
million
visitors.
It's
hard
to
find
another
place,
not
just
in
the
state,
but
in
the
country
that
has
that
kind
of
imbalance
in
terms
of
populace
in
place
at
any
given
time
and
needs
to
to
build
infrastructure
and
have
Services.
G
E
G
F
F
None
We
Stand
turned
and
thanks
thank
you,
councilmember
Gregory
for
leading
us
and
thanks
for
y'all's
attendance
today,.