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Description
City of Charleston Ad Hoc Budget Advisory Committee Meeting 10/31/22
B
C
It's
great
thank
you,
madam
clerk
Jennifer,
for
setting
that
up
and
I
think
I've
got
an
old
version
of
the
agenda
in
front
of
me.
So
I
will
get
the
new
one,
but
thank
you.
Everyone
for
joining
us,
I
hope
y'all
had
a
good
weekend.
C
D
C
Sorry
so,
oh.
C
C
Amen,
thank
you
for
one
and
Amy's
gonna
basically
make
the
presentation
here
again
as
usual
in
her
excellent
fashion
and
first
up
we're
going
to
talk
about
our
expenditures,
the
things
that
we
view
that
were
recommended
from
the
Departments
as
being
good
things
to
do
in
2023,
and
then
we'll
talk
about
the
revenues
after
that
Amy.
You
want
to
pick
it
up.
Please.
E
So
moving
right
in
total,
departmental
requests
from
the
Departments
that
we
received
for
2023
is
21
million
dollars,
19
of
that
from
the
general
fund
and
1.7
about
from
Enterprise
funds.
E
Those
out
of
those
requests
there's
some
that
we
considered
mandatory
or
Life
Safety,
1.5
million
dollars
of
that
of
those
requests.
We
consider
mandatory
Life
Safety
1.3
through
the
general
fund
170
from
the
Enterprise
son
and
of
that
amount.
There
is
there's
730
000
of
potential
revenues
that
we
can
utilize
to
offset
the
expenditures
and.
E
And
general
fund
reserves
in
445
in
arpa
funds
net
impact
to
the
budget
for
those
mandatory
life
safety
request
is
700,
almost
744
000
and
I
kind
of
go
through
those
in
the
next
slides.
E
This
is
all
the
general
fund.
Most
of
this
is
for
the
fire
department.
As
you
can
imagine,
this
first
line
here
for
the
fire
department
is
for
the
Personnel
will
need
for
the
new
fire
station
on
John's
Island
and
that
will
be
for
half
a
year
and
then
these
are
additional
costs
for
uniforms,
etc.
For
the
for
that,
for
those
personalities.
E
There's
carbon
monoxide
alarms
some
other
tactical
equipment
that
you'll
see
the
SCBA
compressor
for
one
of
the
stations
10
to
your
microphone
and
headsets.
These
are
all
like
just
equipment
that
they
need
that
we
consider
mandatory
and
life
safety
items
that
we
really
should
just
fund
no
matter
what.
C
Foreign
and
y'all
I
think
Chief
Courier
is
on
the
line,
but
I
think
in
a
nutshell.
We
know
that
the
new
Fire
Station
won't
be
finished
yet
over
on
John's
Island.
But
what
they
plan
to
do
is
add
another
apparatus
to
the
existing
station
over
there
and
go
ahead
and
start
building
up
our
our
Workforce
on
on
John's
Island
and
our
capacity
and
and
just
tighten
up
out
of
that
existing
fire
station
and
then,
of
course,
move
to
the
you'll.
G
G
We
will
eventually
need
two
units
out
of
that
Firehouse
each
unit
being
15
Personnel.
So
our
request
is
four
15
firefighters,
so
we
can
go
ahead
and
start
to
train
up
and
phase
in
that
those
units
when
you
start
to
factor
in
our
capacity
to
train
people
at
our
Milford
Street
location
it.
This
probably
is
a
two-year
program
for
us
right.
E
E
So
the
total
for
fire
is
a
million
dollars
in
mandatory
Life
Safety
that
we
consider
life
safety
and
my
mandatory
and
then
the
rental
registration
program
that
was
approved
of
a
council
will
need
a
worthy
Personnel
for
that.
E
So
this
is
for
a
person
for
that
function,
since
it's
a
new
function
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
Revenue
that
we
will
collect
to
help
offset
that
that
total
cost
and
then
for
facilities,
maintenance
and
grounds
maintenance
merits
of
replacing
pedestals
and
wire
on
the
North
and
South
loading
docks
because
they're
in
need
of
repair
and
then
the
electric
blowers
for
ground
speed
units
as
part
of
our
climate
action
plan.
That
was
also
approved
by
Council.
E
D
E
H
E
And
then
Enterprise
funds
there's
only
two
items
that
we
consider
mandatory
life,
Tree
Management
plan
for
the
golf
course
and
then
the
netting
for
the
golf
course
and
the
the
netting
will
be
covered
by
Hospitality
funds.
Just
so
you
know
that.
E
I
E
Welcome
so
moving
on
to
the
general
fund
just
for
the
additional
requests
total
request,
just
for
the
general
fund
was
19.3
Million
we're
recommending
about
7.8
million
of
those
requests
be
funded.
2.8
almost
2.9
could
come
from
other
funding
sources
and
2.3
from
arpa
funds.
E
The
net
impact
to
the
budget
would
be
about
5.6
million
dollars
and
then
I'm,
just
going
to
run
through
I
did
a
summary
of
each
of
the
Departments
just
to
make
it
easier
for
us
to
to
go
through
because
I'm
not
sure
would
be
easier
if
we
were
sitting
in
a
room
and
we
could
go
through
the
requests
like
one
by
one.
So
this
is
my
next
best
option
for
us
to
do
it.
So
for
our
Budget
Finance
and
revenue
collections,
the
total
additional
request
was
415
000.
E
369
of
that
is
for
additional
Staffing
and
those
are
for
three
positions
that
we
really
need.
One
is
a
grant
writer
which
was
requested
pretty
much
by
all
Council
in
the
mayor's
office
and
then
two
positions
for
our
Erp
system
that
will
be
implementing
over
the
next
two
years.
One
is
an
Erp
project
manager
that
we
will
need
to
oversee
the
whole
entire
project.
E
That
position
will
be
temporary
just
through
until
the
software
is
completely
implemented,
probably
two
to
three
years
and
then
the
other
is
enterprise
system
administrator,
who
will
be
The
Keeper
of
the
system,
basically,
for
the
rest
of
time,
make
sure
that
we
have
somebody
support
staff
for
the
for
the
software.
The
system
troubleshooting
report
writing
solving
issues
making
sure
that
we're
keeping
up
with
with
upgrades
and
all
of
that,
that's
what
that
position
will
do
so
that
would
be
a
permanent
position.
E
So
the
court
Queen
request
for
us
was
an
increase
in
juror
pay
and
bonuses
and
pay
adjustments
to
establish
a
youth,
Education
court.
We're
recommending
to
fund
the
juror
pay
and
there's
also
some
increases
smaller
increases
to
travel
and
training,
and
things
like
that
for
for
staff
and
for
the
judges
and
just
other
smaller
supplies.
I
E
You've
had
to
ask
me
that
I
don't
know
yeah
hold
on
one.
Second,
let
me.
I
H
I
To
agree
I,
I
I
know,
but
to
ask
somebody
to
come,
serve
on
jury
duty
for
a
half
day
or
a
full
day
and
pay
them
ten
dollars
or
someone
insulting.
Quite
frankly,.
E
And
then
for
the
mayor's
office,
so
it's
really
just
the
lobbyist
contract,
just
increasing
that
that
contract
and
that
will
come
to
council
when
we
renew
the
contract
in
the
beginning
of
the
year,
2023
Corporation
councils
really
increase
and
contract
Legal
Services.
As
you
all
know,
there's
more
and
more
cases
and
the
complexity
of
those
cases
is
getting
more
complex,
so
they
were
asking
for
a
small
increase
in
their
contractual
services.
E
There
was
quite
a
few
requests
for
resiliency
in
Emergency
Management,
additional
personnel
and
contract
items,
two
of
the
positions
that
they
requested.
One
was
a
communication
and
Community
engagement
manager
and
the
other
is
another
Emergency
Management
Specialists.
We
are
recommending
funding
both
of
those
positions.
E
E
I
I
Can
you
go
to
the
next
slide
over
one
more
yep,
so
that
eight
thousand
dollars
is
covering
this
Financial
Empowerment
coordinator
no.
E
That
was
actually
we
have
to.
We
didn't
recommend
funding
for
that.
That
was
for
additional
training
that
they
had
asked
for
and
sorry.
D
Go
back
to
the
previous
slide.
This
is
on
the
I
guess
code,
where
we
had
the
cultural
fears
thing
in
it.
My
question
is
probably
out
of
how
to
automate
I
I
guess
this
is
culture.
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
tagging
that
goes
on
around
town
and
seems
like
if
you
have
a
blank
block
wall,
somebody's
going
to
put
some
graffiti
on
it
and
I
found
out
that
it
seems
like
when
we
put
some
art
on
it.
They
don't
tag
other
people's
art.
D
D
But
some
of
these
people,
maybe
can
be
engaged
I,
don't
know,
maybe
with
a
little
money
anyway
to
put
something
attractive
as
opposed
to
something
that
lights
and
I
don't
know
where
we
put
some
money
aside
for
that
I'm
talking,
there's
a
place
right
on
the
corner
spring
and
and
said
Phillip
spring
and
coming
I'm
sorry
spring
and
coming
all
still
on
one
side,
and
you
have
a
old
mural
on
the
side
on
the
left
on
the
south
side
right.
J
D
On
the
North
side,
this
block
wall
I
think
the
city's
covered
up
a
couple
of
times
and
they
come
back
and
they
put
graffiti
on
and
I
I.
Just
think.
If
we
put
some
kind
of
I,
don't
know
whether
we
have
art
contests
or
what
and
a
good
example
of
that
would
also
be
the
the
metal
switching
boxes
at
various
intersections.
D
When
you
put
art
on
those
people,
don't
tag
on
it,
people
tag
it
so
I
think
those
are
some
good
ideas
to
kind
of
dress
up
and
make
things
attractive
at
a
at
a
nominal
price.
But
where
do
we
get
the
money?
What
pocket
do
we
get
that
out
of
if
you
go
to
qg
and
in
Meeting
Street
just
before
you
get
up
and
go
if
you
want
to
go
to
Mount
Pleasant
off
of
Meeting
Street?
D
That
switching
block
has
a
this
wrap
with
a
piece
of
Jonathan
Green's
art,
nobody
tags
it!
That's
right!
You
get
that
similar
problem
over
West
Ashley
area,
with
the
switching
boxes,
so
I
guess
somewhere.
I
think
it'll
take
a
nominal
amount,
but
at
the
same
time
I
don't
know
whether
that
comes
on
the
cultural,
Affairs
or
or
Amy.
Where
would
you
put
something
we.
D
Something
that
could
it
in
particular
gateways
coming
into
the
city,
all
Corners,
the
the
tigers,
are
winning
out.
Let's
put
it
like
that.
C
And
those
those
wraps
are
effective
that
way:
they're
not
real
expensive,
but
they're
not
inexpensive,
either
I.
Think
it's
about
2
000
and
may
have
gone
up
a
little
bit.
Oh
really
to
do
one
of
those
wraps.
We
did
another
one
up
at
a
brigade
Street
and
a
meeting
Street
at
our
own
artists
and
our
livability
department
Kelvin
that
Kelvin
painted
for
us.
D
I
think
I
think
Mr
Mr
riccio
told
me
about
him,
said
he's
very
talented
by
the
way
gentlemen
you're
talking
about
it
again.
Maybe
we
can
come
up
a
little
money
to
help
people
like
that
with
a
bonus
or
something
to
do
it.
For
example,
when
you
go
and
Waterfront
Park
where
the
splash
Fountain
is
and.
G
J
G
D
The
brick
paving
in
there
believe
it
or
not
was
done
by
a
city
employee.
His
last
name
was
Gates
and
brick.
Mason,
obviously
save
the
city,
a
ton
of
money,
so
I
don't
know.
Maybe
we
can
the
long
and
short
of
it
is
how
to
make
our
ears
a
little
attractive.
We
got
employees
that
could
do
it
or
maybe
even
come
up
with
an
art
contest
and
who
comes
up
with
the
best
design.
We've
made
him
a
nominal
for
you
to
go
out
there
and
do
it
anyway.
D
E
So
councilman
wearing
just
so
you
know
the
original
request
for
this
was
100,
there's
a
an
80
000
and
that's
a
50
50
match,
so
it
would
have
been
fifty
thousand
dollars,
so
that
was
some
of
the
just
the
it
not
knowing
for
sure
about
the
grant.
What
we
are
going
to
do
with
that
we
would
even
get
accepted,
for
the
grant
was
some
of
the
reason
why
we're
not
funding
it,
but
we
could
look
at
what
you're
talking
about.
D
C
E
Okay,
fire
department,
we
already
went
over
the
total
additional
request,
was
3.5
million
you'd,
see
2.4
for
operations
that
would
include
the
mandatory
life
safety
of
one
million
dollars
that
we
just
went
over
training
and
Fire
Marshal's
Office.
E
So,
like
I
said,
we
just
went
over
the
mandatory
Life
Safety
they're,
asking
for
15
additional
physicians
in
addition
to
the
30
needed
for
the
Johns
Island
station,
six
were
in
operations
for
a
total
of
627
000
I'm.
Sorry
we're
recommending
three
of
those
positions
based
on
on
their
priority
listing
of
them.
There
was
four
in
training
for
a
total
of
382..
We
didn't
recommend
any
of
those.
It
was
ranked
seventh
in
priority
and
all
that
request
was
for
the
four
positions
together.
So
it's
a
little
harder
to
fund
at
that
level.
E
Five
in
the
Fire
Marshal's
Office
for
a
total
of
five
hundred
and
seven
thousand.
They
asked
for
11,
but
we
had
asked
them
to
kind
of
scale
back
and
look
at
their
programs
over
time
to
see
when
they
would
need
the
positions
for
those
programs.
So
they
came
back
and
did
that
for
us,
so
they
would
need
five.
This
year,
four
in
2024
and
two
in
2025.
E
and
those
were
for
this
accommodations
group
and
then
also
for
their
Community
risk,
Reduction
Program.
So
we're
recommending
the
two
positions
that
they
asked
for
for
the
accommodations
focused
inspections
for
short-term
rentals,
hotels
and
motels,
and
because
those
funds
can
be
funded
with
accommodations
taxes.
E
I
E
I
Citywide
city-wide
is
that
are
these
basic
firefighters.
H
E
There
is
a
mechanic
that
they're
asking
for
a
Communications
battalion
chief,
a
medical
operations
officer
and
two
firefighter
or
two
ft's
for
recruitment.
I.
Think
that's
our
sixth
right.
There.
E
Two
of
them
are,
we
have
done
some
adjustments
to
that.
They
had
asked
us
previously
to
the
to
the
way
they're
structured,
their
Training,
Division
and
they're,
just
asking
not
to
restore
those
positions
for
that.
E
F
Amy,
yes,
hey
it's
Kathy,
the
actual
recruitment
ftes
are
to
replace
the
ones
we
took
out
off
the
line
to
put
in
recruitment
last
year.
They
just
want
to
restore
those
two
positions
that
were
taken
off
the
front
line,
so
it's
not
actually
for
recruiters.
E
C
On
the
line,
Chief,
can
you
add
any
light
on
this
discussion.
G
So
certainly
so
the
what
Kathy
and
what
Amy
were
saying
is
correct
of
the
request
for
the
Operations
Division.
Two
of
them
were
positions
that
we
had
moved
out
of
operations
into
recruitment.
So
what
we
were
trying
to
accomplish
is
to
leave
the
Personnel
in
place
to
continue
the
recruiting
effort,
and
since
we
moved
those
positions
out
previously,
we
wanted
to
restore
those
in
operations.
G
I
I
just
get
kind
of
nervous
Chief
when
we
talk
about
operations
and
having
enough
bodies
involved
in
operations
means
putting
out
firearms
and
saving
lives.
That's
what
operations
means
to
me
so
I'll
be
short,
that
number
of
personnel,
or
so.
G
G
I
am
previously
when
our
staffing
levels
were
when
we
had
more
vacancies,
we
could
move
vacant
positions
over,
but
now
that
we
are
approaching
full
Staffing,
it's
it's
more
critical
to
make
sure
that
all
the
positions
that
would
normally
be
allocated
to
the
Operations
Division
are
actually
in
the
Operations
Division,
and
this
will
move
us
if,
if
not
totally,
writing
writing
everything
and
having
all
the
positions
allocated
where
they,
where
they
need
to
be
it'll
at
least
get
us
within
one.
So
this
is
this
is
a
good
move.
Okay,.
I
The
other
question
I
have
with
you
on
on
the
on
the
line.
G
five
in
the
Marshall's
office
were
those
folks
that
we
would
use
to
help
with
the
Primitive
process.
G
That
they
could
be
so
some
of
them
were
to
get
a
community
risk
reduction,
Initiative
off
the
ground,
and
then
the
others
were
focused
on
accommodations
and
and,
like
the
slide
says,
they'd
be
focused
on
short-term
rental,
hotels
and
motels.
G
I
believe
and
I
would
need
to
double
check
with
Chief
July,
but
I
do
believe.
Part
of
the
focus
was
to
make
sure
that
we're
Shoring
up
the
permitting
process
and
offering
support
to
the
permit
Center
as
needed.
Okay,.
I
Thanks
thanks
Amy
and
Kathy
in
Chief
for
the
that
response.
E
We
move
on
so
I
mean
you.
Requests
are
mainly
for
additional
training
funds,
specialized
equipment,
supplies,
contracts
for
service
plans
and
a
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
assessment
and
plan
development,
and
also
for
a
marine
maintenance
program
and
other
maintenance
programs.
So
we're
recommending
that
we
fund
almost
two
million
dollars
of
their
request.
E
Okay,
Housing
and
Community
Development,
total
audition
request
was
392
thousand
dollars.
A
majority
of
the
requests
was
to
transfer
to
employee
employees
currently
paid
by
grants
to
the
general
fund
we're
recommending
to
transfer
one
of
those
positions.
As
you
know,
we've
been
trying
to
transfer
all
of
those
out
off
from
grantsing
to
the
general
fund
over
time,
so
we're
recommending
doing
one
and
trying
to
do
the
next
one
in
2024
and
that
should
take
care
of
the
Staffing
and
Housing
and
Community
community
development.
E
That's
funded
by
grants.
Other
requests
for
staff,
one
was
asked
for
by
both
housing
and
planning.
I.
Think
we've
talked
about
this
one
before
it
was
a
they
both
just
asked
for
it.
They
needed
it,
but
it's
a
better
fit
for
planning.
So
we're
recommending
that
position
in
the
planning
department
as
you'll
see
later
on,
and
then
another
position
was
for
our
part-time
Mental
Health
Specialists,
and
we
talked
through
this
there's
funding
currently
available
for
our
contract
person.
So
we're
going
to
maintain
that
contract
funding
for
2023.
C
I
I
think
the
provider
was
having
trouble
finding
employee,
even
though
we
had
the
funds
for
the
contract.
E
Think
Tiana
was
looking
at
a
different
contract
person
there
to
help
with
that,
and
we've
been
trying
to
help
her
with
that
as
well.
So
good.
E
Human
resources
and
organizational
development
of
our
total
request
was
for
around
172
000.
The
biggest
of
that
was
for
a
recruiter
position
that
would
Market
the
city
as
an
employer
of
Choice
by
creating
relationships
with
colleges
and
universities,
as
well
as
attending
other
job
fairs,
hosted
by
other
organization.
So
this
person
would
be
on
the
road,
more
marketing,
the
city
and
most
of
their
other
requests
were
immaterial.
E
There
are
small
increases
to
contractual
Services
advertising
for
job
advertisements
and
Hospitality
supplies
for
job
fairs
and
orientation,
so
we're
recommending
about
154
153
000
of
their
requests.
105
of
that
is
for
the
recruiter
position,
and
that
includes
on
fringes,
supplies
and
vehicle.
In.
A
E
E
Information
about
technology,
total
request
was
1.7
million.
Wes
went
through
these
in
great
detail
in
his
meeting
with
you,
so
I
didn't
feel
like
I
should
detail
them
all
out
again.
We're
recommending
one
almost
1.6
million
of
his
total
requests.
Most
of
the
of
them
are
things
that
we
need
to
do
to
keep
our
systems
up
safe
and
relevant
and
500.
Almost
540
of
that
can
be
funded
with
arpa
or
is
arpa
eligible.
C
So
y'all
may
have
noticed
a
theme
here
already
is
that
Amy
and
the
team
went
back
through
all
the
requests
to
see
if
any
of
the
expenses
were
eligible,
with
arper
or
or
accommodations,
or
some
other
funding
and
we're
blessed
by
that
y'all
again
this
year
that
we
we
had
some
availability
still
of
arpa
funds
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
Thank
you
for
for
going
back
through
it
and
and
and
and
putting
that
lens
on
it.
Thank
you.
E
Livability
and
tourism
digital
amount
requested,
so
it's
128,
000.
majority
of
that
of
the
requests
was
that
additional
staff
person
for
a
rental
registration
program
that
was
passed
by
Council
that
we
talked
about
earlier
in
the
Life
mandatory
Life
Safety
section.
E
The
rest
was
for
our
College
move
out
and
additional
funding
for
dilapidated
buildings
that
need
attention.
So
we
recommended
103
000
of
that
78
of
that
is
for
that
one
person,
as
we
talked
about
and
we're
estimating
around
25
25
000
in
fees
that
will
offset
the
cost
for
that
position
and
then
15
000
for
College
move
out
and
ten
thousand
for
dilapidated
building
materials.
E
Okay,
Parks,
their
total
request
was
5.3
yeah,
so
I
just
detailing
that
by
division.
So
it's
a
little
bit
easier
for
everybody,
I
told
them
what
we're
recommending
from
this
is
3.3
million.
We
went
through
two
of
those
items:
the
230
000
for
Life
Safety
previously,
so
you
know,
the
electrical
division
is
requesting
One
Plumbing
technician
and
an
increase
still
after
calling
plumbing
supply,
so
we're
recommending
funding
for
both
of
those
items
at
almost
98
000.
E
facilities,
maintenance
requested
3.1
million.
The
largest
of
that
is
a
as
a
request
for
crew
for
Daniel
Island.
That
would
service
both
the
record,
the
new
recreation
center
and
the
Tenant
Center
that
we
that
was
just
renovated.
E
There
was
also
several
requests
for
increases
to
supplies
due
to
increasing
costs
and
also
the
remaining
requests
were
for
building
repairs
and
maintenance
to
the
existing
City
buildings
and
structures
in
the
amount
of
1.2
of
which
982
can
be
covered
with
other
financing
sources,
which
is
hospitality
and
Reserves.
E
Okay,
Parks
admin-
the
only
ask
they
had
was
for
an
mou
with
Clemson
University
to
continue
that
partnership.
That
was
forty
thousand
dollars
and
we're
recommending
that
be
funded.
Grounds
Maintenance
requested
1.1
110
000
of
that
was
for
the
electric
blowers
that
was
approved
by
Council
and
the
climate
action
plan.
The
remaining
was
Staffing
and
then
just
increases
to
cost
of
supplies
like
we're.
Seeing
in
every
other
department,
there
was
two
Crews
that
were
recommending
for
city
parks,
one
would
be
on
the
peninsula.
E
One
would
be
off
the
peninsula
to
collect
trash
and
was
parks
on
a
more
frequent
basis
and
then
we're
also
I'm.
Sorry
question
I'm.
Sorry,
okay
increases
just
as
far
supplies
due
to
Rising
costs
and
then
a
street
tree
inventory
Urban
Forest
management
plan
contract
was
also
requested,
which
we
are
also
recommending
and
that's
an
arpa
eligible
item.
D
Amy,
yes
back
to
the
mou
with
Clemson
I
got
to
tell
you
District
Seven,
probably
was
the
largest
benefit
of
what
those
students
and
Clemson
University
did
open,
Ardmore
section
and
they
did
a
period
on
offered
off
the
Bikeway
and
the
he's
called
the
duck
pond.
But
it
looks
a
whole
lot
better
now
and
and
then
the
Pavilion
also
as
well
as
the
pedestrian
bridge
from
the
Bikeway
to
WL
Stevens
Park.
D
Those
things
would
have
cost
the
city
exponential
amount
of
money
versus
we
because
of
these
students
got
it
at
I
think
below
cost,
because
we
didn't
pay
for
the
architecture.
We
got
the
material
at
discounts,
I'm
just
wondering
who
did
they
suggest?
How
do
we
get
to
the
40.
D
Okay,
I
gotta
tell
you,
I
mean
I,
don't
know
if
you
all
have
seen
him,
but
that
that
the
walkways
from
The
Pedestrian
from
the
from
the
Bikeway
to
the
W.L
Stevens
Park
is
something
that
is
actually
beautiful.
It's
made
out
of
wires
and
it
just
really
looks
great
and
custom
men.
The
product
system
helped
out
a
lot
on
the
armor,
which
was
a
lighted
area.
Now
people
can
recreate
around,
which
was
a
retention
here
by
the
way,
with
two
Retention
Ponds
that
cost
about
16
million
dollars.
D
This
is
when
my
father
was
on
Council
a
lot
more
Admiral
used
to
flood.
It
still
floods,
but
you
know
we're
near
like
once
did,
and
these.
D
Are
now
something
people
can
recreate
around
so
I,
don't
I'm
sure
people
in
other
districts
and
use
some
of
the
a
community
the
way
the
community
gives
back
I
guess
Clemson
University
certainly
gives
back
the
community
these
things
that
they're
putting
in
I
don't
know
if
it
passed
a
50-year
test,
but
it
definitely
passes
the
30
or
40
year
test
for
enjoyment.
So
when
we
put
in
40,
we
get
a
whole
lot
more
back
than
40
000.
C
Point
you
get
a
lot
of
bang
for
your
buck.
I
I,
you
know.
Ideally
we
do
even
more
projects
with
them,
but
there
is
that
that
was
part
of
the
negotiation
or
discussion.
You
know
they
do
have
other
things
to
to
learn
and
do
study
in
their
program,
so
I
I
think
we're
getting
as
much
as
they
they're
they're
able
to
afford
US
so
to
speak.
Okay,.
D
C
E
Okay,
so
construction
requested
215,
almost
216
000..
This
was
for
a
construction
technician
and
an
increase
to
playground
equipment
maintenance.
We
are
recommending
both
of
those
requests
for
funding.
E
They're
also
asked
for
an
increase
to
supplies
due
to
Rising
costs.
Recommended
funding
is
184
000
of
that
of
that
request,
and
so
in
total,
for
Parks
we're
recommending
about
3.4
million
dollars.
601
000
is
arpa
eligible
and
at
1.5
million
could
be
funded
from
other
sources
through
tourism
fees,
General
funding
reserves
and
build
the
building
maintenance,
Reserve.
E
It's
not
in
this
budget,
councilmember
shealy.
That
would
be
part
of
the
Improvement
plan.
A
C
Councilmember
I
I
asked
Jason
about
that
just
this
morning
and
they
do
have
some
cost
estimates
now
on
some
I
guess:
you'd
almost
call
them
prefab
units
similar
to
the
ones
that
Charleston
County
used
out
at
Stone,
Oak
Park,
and
so
we
know
now
how
much
money
we
will
need
to
to
put
those
bathrooms
in
and
between
reserves
and
other
funding.
Sir
sources
and
I
do
want
to
meet
with
the
friends
of
the
muni
to
discuss
those
budgets
and
what
else
they
want
to
do.
C
But
we
we
have
been
working
on
that
issue.
J
I
I
just
wanted
to
chime
in
on
on
that
thought
from
council
member
Chilli,
because
I'm
on
the
golf
commission
with
councilmember
Parker.
So
this
has
been
a
long-running
conversation
of
the
need
for
those
facilities
out
there.
H
I
And
as
you're
addressing
the
friends
of
the
Union
I
would
encourage
you
to
come
to
one
of
our
golf
commission
meetings,
though
that's
a
very
active
group
of
men
and
women
out
there
and
I
think
a
councilman
Parker
Dimensions
one
time
having
tournaments
and
competition
at
the
muni
is
somewhat
hampered
by
not
having
those
facilities
available.
So
we
get
it
out.
There
I
think
you
make
a
lot
of
people
happy
and
enhance
the
experience
being
at
the
Muny
as.
C
E
Thank
you
moving
on
planning,
preservation
and
sustainability,
their
total
request
was
1.65
million
for
recommending
about
168
thousand
dollars
planning
preservation.
Their
total
request
that
this
is
our
admin.
Division
was
14
000
for
travel
and
training,
and
additional
expenses
for
boards
and
commission
committees
we're
recommending
7.9
of
that
request.
Zoning
requested
500
about
533
000
main
requests
for
500
000,
a
complete
phase,
two
of
the
save
plan.
We
are
recommending
that
that
be
funded
and
it's
our
eligible
expense.
E
The
first
phase
of
that
was
also
in
2022,
budgeted
with
arpa
funds
and
preservation
is
asking
for
a
historical
architectural
survey
inventory
to
ensure
compliance
with
the
National
Historic
preservation
act.
They've
been
asking
for
this
since
2017.,
so
we're
recommending
funding
for
this,
and
it's
also
on
our
arpa
eligible
expense.
E
Design
is
requesting
99
000
for
and
for
a
another
designer
claiming
sustainability
is,
has
requested.
405
000
maybe
request
our
our
two
positions
in
the
downtown
Peninsula
plan,
two
positions,
one
was
a
Mobility
planner
and
the
other
is
affordable
housing
concierge.
That
was
the
position
that
both
housing
and
planning
had
had
requested.
So
we're,
including
that
in
planning's
budget
and
then
the
downtown
Peninsula
plan
was
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
that
would
be
also
a
continuation.
E
We
had
already
approved
350
000
in
2022
for
that
utilizing,
Arbor
funds
right
now
they
haven't
spent
any
of
those
funds.
We're
not
certain
they'll
need
the
additional
funding
in
2023.
So
we're
not
recommending
that
at
this
time,
but
we
could
allocate
arba
funds
to
that
at
a
later
date
to.
B
Yes,
my
question
was
how
the
shared
position
be
utilized
I
mean
who
would
they
report
to
planning
yeah.
E
E
C
Basically,
they
would
be
assisting
the
developers
that
are
vetted
by
the
housing
department
as
being
bona
fide
affordable
product
or
developers.
So
they'll
logically
be
a
lot
of
coordination
between
housing
and
planning.
On
on
this,
this
position,
councilmember
Waring.
D
Thank
you,
Mr
Mia,
I,
guess
in
the
sense
of
planning.
Where
would
money
come
from?
We've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
improving
the
gateways
coming
into
the
City
of
Charleston,
in
particular
Northbridge
coming
in
from
the
north
Ridgewood.
D
We
all
we
contract
with
a
company
that
cuts
the
grass,
but
they
don't
cut
the
weeds,
so
I
suspect
that's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
for
that
to
happen.
I've
got
pictures,
you
know
videos
when
you
come
across
and
you
look
to
the
right.
You
you
run
into
the
weeds
in
the
culture
we've
had
this
discussion
a
number
of
times,
councilman
Shaye,
that
Wes
Ashley,
revitalization,
but
I
think
this
is
a
time
to
actually
tuck
some
monies
away
for
that
type.
D
Beautification
at
and
I
guess
this
maybe
should
have
been
in
the
next,
the
previous
section,
but
there's
no
discussion
for
this
while
we're
putting
together
this
budget
and
we
we
need
to
put
some
monies
in
in
the
budget
for
frankly,
beautification
I,
don't
think
it's
gonna.
It's
not
gonna
be
a
whole
lot
of
money,
but
I
got
to
tell
you
we
got
to
cut
them.
We
got
to
cut
the
the
weeds
coming
in
the
West
Ashley.
C
Be
great:
okay,
okay
and-
and
this
is
related
I
think
but
Amy
had
just
shared
as
part
of
the
arcs
request,
two
additional
Crews
just
for
for
trash
and
beautification,
and
cleaning
up
One,
West,
Ashley
and
one
in
other
parts
of
the
city
and
those
were
recommended,
correct
Amy
for
funding.
That's.
E
I
Appreciate
councilman
because
she
was
you've
been
one
of
our
strongest
advocates
for
this
particular
part
of
the
West
Ashley
and
I've
got
to
tip
my
hat
off
to
my
predecessor,
because
he
was
responsible
for
a
lot
of
the
work
on
Sam
Rittenberg,
leading
up
to
the
north
bridge
and
coming
off
the
North
Bridge,
and
so
it's
and
it's
a
struggle
when
I
travel
up
and
down
that
little
Causeway
to
the
bridge
to
the
park
there.
But
but
Jason's
is
on
it
on
a
regular
basis.
I
To
my
request,
he
even
this
this
morning
there
was
a
complaint
about
the
work
at
the
Piggly
Wiggly
site,
overgrown
brush,
and
they
were
out
there
this
morning
for
us
saying
so.
Listen!
Thank
you
because
you,
you
read
that,
because
all
the
time,
thank
you
for
keep
on
pushing
that.
You've
been
one
of
my
strongest
Advocates,
making
sure
we
get
that
cleaned
up.
I
E
And
then
business
and
Neighborhood
Services
requested
490
000
majority
of
that
is
for
the
entrepreneurial
Resource
Center.
That
will
be
a
coordinator
position
and
an
administrative
assistant
half
of
the
year,
so
we
don't
anticipate
it
being
open
open
before
or
for
the
full
year.
Furniture
and
fixtures
were
included
in
the
request,
but
we
didn't
include
those
because
we
already
have
our
funds
allocated
for
that,
and
then
the
remaining
request
was
multi-part
training
and
Professional
Services
that
we
are
also
recommending.
E
So
the
total
we
are
recommending
is
the
is
about
968,
000
and
599.
000
of
that
is
our
fund
eligible.
C
And
I
would
point
out
that
we
are
applying
for
Grants
this.
This
is
ERC
they've.
Now
dubbed
it
is
our
minority
business
incubator
and
we
we've
met
with
a
couple
of
the
banks
that
that
have
some
National
Funds
help
promote
just
this
kind
of
thing,
so
no
guarantees,
but
we
will
be
applying
for
some
grants
that
that
may
be
able
to
offset
these
expenses
by
the
time
by
the
time
it
opens
up
foreign.
E
Moving
on
to
police,
their
total
additional
request
was
2.2,
biggest
requests
includes
us
Police,
Department,
Personnel
and
space
needs
assessment,
equipment
for
the
DNA
lab
additional
encrypted
mobile
radios
and
then
increases
to
supplies
and
restoring
to
pre-pandemic
related
Cuts
or
we're
recommending
one
point:
four
of
that
293
is
our
eligible
for
the
radios
and
850
000
can
be
funded
from
other
sources.
C
Y'all
I
think
that's
really
important
that
we
get
our
forensics
Center,
just
as
fully
operational
and
independent
as
possible.
The
lead
time
on
getting
a
DNA
results,
they're
just
overwhelmed
I,
guess
the
sled
lab
in
Colombia,
so
to
have
our
own
ability.
I
Thank
you
mayor
Amy,
do
you
know
if
we
charge
for
an
outside
agencies,
ask
for
our
assistance
from
our
Brunswick
live.
E
F
I
The
mayor
is
right
that
you
know
we
need
to
have
this
thing
fully
funded
and
operational
and
I'm
glad
that
we
were
good
partners
and
neighbors
with
our
other
law
enforcement
agencies,
but
this
is
an
expense
and
we're
that
our
citizens
are
absorbing
and
to
help
other
agencies
outside
of
the
city
limits.
I
think
it's
only
fatally.
We
charge
something
for
those
services.
E
C
I
I
E
So
Public
Service,
they
requested
809
898
000,
we're
recommending
592
of
that
permit.
Center
majority
was
for
upgrading
positions
and
incentive
programs,
and
things
like
that.
You
know
coping
with
the
new
pay
plan
adjustment
that
that
will
take
care
of
some
of
those
issues
for
them
inspections.
E
Some
of
that
was
for
office,
space,
reconfiguration
membership
dues
and
Publications
we're
recommending
the
majority
of
the
requests
for
membership
dues
and
Publications
and
travel
and
training
and
professional
and
contractual
services
Public
Service
admin
they
have
requested.
Their
main
request
was
for
the
addition
and
all
position
for
deputy
director
of
operations,
and
then
there
are
some
office
free
configuration
for
storm
water
and
public
service
straight
through
the
sidewalks
asked
for
240
around
241
000
we're
recommending
132
for
additional
equipment
and
increases
to
construction
material
supplies.
E
Environmental
Services
admin
asked
for
136
that
was
mainly
due
to
supplies
of
Supply
costs
in
the
recollect
system.
I,
don't
know
if
you
remember,
they
discussed
that
with
everyone
when
they
reported
or
were
talking
about
their
budget
requests.
That
will
help
it's
an
app
that
will
help
push
out
notices,
taller
residents.
So
we're
recommending
that
for
a
total
of
111
000
of
that
request,
Carver's
collection
asks,
for
it
looks
like
11
000
in
that
whole
spreadsheet.
E
That
I
sent
you,
but
some
of
that
was
because
there
was
a
negative
number
in
there
for
fees
that
they
were
anticipating
collecting,
based
on
that
code
or
code
revision
that
they
presented
earlier
on
trash
loads,
and
things
like
that.
So
we
took
that
out
so
total
true
request
was
42
940,
we're
recommending
40
000
of
that,
and
that
was
for
the
continuation
of
the
garbage
car
audit.
E
Okay,
trash
collection
same
with
that
there
was
a
negative
number
in
there
for
the
code
revisions
that
they
have
brought
to
Public
Works
committee
over
the
summer
time.
E
She
requests
was
forty
two
thousand
and
we're
recommending
20
of
that
for
overtime,
increase
overtime
for
the
trash
division,
street
sweeping
50
000,
almost
51
000
majority
was
for
our
big
value,
trash
receptacles
for
maintenance
of
those
in
some
parts
and
supplies
and
then
for
the
purchase
of
another
Glutton
and
we're
recommending
both
of
those
items.
I
So
Amy
on
the
fleet
of
245.
How
much
is
that
is
distinguished
from
upgrades
to
positions
versus
put
vehicles
in
overtime.
I
E
I
would
say
if
you
subtracted
those
two
numbers
that
would
be
mostly
for
the
upgrades
to
positions
in
the
vehicles.
I
think
the
vehicles
themselves
are
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
and
it
was
just
to
have
extra
additional
vehicles
on
hand.
So
that's
why
we
didn't
recommend
it,
but
I'll
get
you
all
the
numbers.
Thank
you.
E
So,
in
total,
we're
recommending
592
and
222
000
is
harpa.
Eligible
Recreation
was
asking
for
an
additional
1
million
dollars.
Majority
of
their
requests
was
to
fund
programs
back
to
the
pre-pandemic
levels
and
purchase
necessary
equipment
for
their
programs.
Do
you
know
that
Recreation
is
like
fully
back,
so
we
really
need
to
fund
them
again
to
where
they
were
before,
so
that
they
can
successfully
do
their
programs,
so
we're
recommending
912
000
of
their
requests.
E
D
I'm
sorry,
Amy
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
recreational
okay.
Maybe
this
was
touched
on
before
I
actually
got
a
call
and
I
had
to
walk
out
but
anyway,
so
the
money
for
the
restroom
and
all
that
is
caught
up
in
this.
F
E
You
know
Lori
was
instrumental
in
cutting
back
and
doing
what
she
needed
to
do
to
help
us
get
through
the
pandemic,
and
so
we
just
need
to
get
her
back
to
where
she
was
there.
Her
programs
are
in
full
swing
for
sure
yeah,
so
TNT
they're,
asking
for
817.
The
largest
request
was
for
the
conversion
of
coming
in
St
Philip
streets
to
for
the
two
to
two
way:
sorry,
that's
362,
000,
but
I
believe
the
estimate
is
old,
so
it's
likely
to
be
higher
than
that.
E
They're
also
requesting
two
positions
of
permit
technician
and
a
traffic
Management
Center
operator,
and
requested
to
reorganize
our
personal
to
upgrade
positions,
one
to
a
transportation
project
manager
and
assigned
shop
superintendent
remaining
across
our
to
replace
decorative
signal,
poles
and
bases
equipment
and
to
return
certain
line
of
line
items
to
pre-pandemic
levels
as
well
as
increases
for
supplies
due
to
price
increases.
E
So
we're
recommending
funding
176
of
that
the
positions
permit
technician
which
we're
collecting
fees
for
that
will
cover
pretty
much
that
that
position,
upgrading
the
two
positions
and
then
equipment
and
supplies,
and
forty
eight
thousand
nine
hundred
dollars
of
that
is
arpa
eligible
foreign.
I
Ty
but
again
that's
a
huge
differential
between
requests
and
recommendations.
That's
not
even
going
to
find
the
conversion
of
coming
to
Saint
Phillips
Street,
no.
K
D
D
Now
the
solution
is
to
put
a
barrier
and
go
around
Savannah
highway
and
Detour,
but
it's
Mr
Mayor
is
anybody
with
the
state
or
County
or
anybody
talking
about
you
know
possibly
raising
that.
So
we
can
because
that's
important
audience
our
audience
on
Rush
Hour
getting
out
of
town,
it's
a
little
short
stripper
road
that
needs
to
be
improved,
but
anybody
putting
in
a
request
to
repo
improve
that
over.
D
D
Right,
yeah,
it
floods
to
the
point
on
the
king
ties
to
where
really
they
closed
the
area
off
now
is
anybody
on
the
state
level
of
the
county
level
we
as
a
city
mentioning
of
trying
to
get
funds
to
raise
that,
so
we
won't
have
to
close
it
off
doing
you
know
80
times
a
year
because
of
King
times
right,
but
you
talk
about
the
example
of
sea
level
rise
that
that's
one
of
the
best
examples
right
there
I
mean
we.
D
C
So
we've
had
General
discussions
with
them
council.
Member
about
you,
know
the
state's
responsibility,
given
that
80
percent
of
our
streets
are
State
maintained
roads
and
that's
certainly
one
of
them
I'm,
not
sure
that
we
made
in
fact
I'm
not
aware
that
we've
made
a
specific
request
for
for
that
location,
but
I'm
happy
to
maybe
a
a
good
starting
point
to
let
get
the
rubber
to
meet
the
road
because
you're
right,
it's
a
Primo
example
of
what
we're
going
to
see
even
more
of
in
the
future
right.
D
C
B
That's
new
mine
has
to
do
with
the
conversion
of
coming
instant
Phillips,
Street
yeah.
B
As
you
know,
mayor
that
has
been
a
request
on
the
books
now
for
years
years
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
will
it
take
to
to
strongly
consider
it
because,
as
you
know,
there
are
a
number
of
neighborhood
associations
that
have
been
pushing
this
for
years
for
safety
reasons.
C
That's
right
and
I
I
think
we've
seen
with
the
conversion
of
spring
and
Cannon
streets
that
that
it
can
work
and,
of
course
we
did
Line
Street
on
our
own
just
internally
a
couple
of
years
ago.
Maybe
it's
three
years
ago
now,
I
I
think
one
approach
that
would
be
reasonable
is
just
to
break
this
up
into
two
pieces
and
and
try
to
do
Saint
Phillips
one
year
and
and
come
and
treat
the
next.
You
know
because
it
always
seems
like
when
we
get
the
budget
crunch
time.
C
It's.
It
falls
down
on
the
list
of
priorities,
but
maybe
if
we
split
it
up
in
two
and
got
some
updated
cost
estimates
on
what
what
each
individual
portion
would
be
like
Amy
States
here
it's
an
old
estimate
so
so
we're
we.
We
do
need
to
look
at
that
again,
I'm
glad
to
ask
Robbie
if
he'd
take
that
approach.
E
We
can
also
consider
whether
that
should
go
on
the
capital
Improvement
plan
rather
than
in
the
general
plan
budget
as
well,
so
Enterprise
funds.
This
should
be
easy
and
I'm.
Sorry,
if
I'm
boring
you
to
tears,
I
just
didn't
know
how
else
to
go
kind
of
go
through
all
these
requests.
So
there
are
small
increases
for
the
old
slave
market,
City
Market,
Angel
Oak
in
the
ballpark,
and
those
events
that
you
see
there
parking
garage
requests
were
were
larger.
E
There
are
to
upgrade
EV
chargers
at
the
vrtc
galliard
Queen,
Street
and
tech
center
garages
for
pressure,
washing
mobile
phone
entry
and
exit
system,
increasing
the
minimum
wage
of
contract
employees
and
increases
to
maintenance,
all
of
which
we
recommend
total
request
is
1.1
million
481
can
be
funded
from
other
sources
which
are
parking
parking,
Reserves,
Golf
Course.
E
They
had
467
000
in
additional
requests.
170
000
we
already
went
through
in
the
mandatory
Life
Safety
remaining
was
for
personnel,
including
increasing
temporary
employees
over
time
increases
for
maintenance
and
supplies
due
to
the
increase
in
the
use
of
the
course
and
increased
cost
of
supplies,
we're
pretty
much
recommending.
All
of
that
be
funded,
ten
thousand
dollars
are
for
eligible
Hospitality
fees
will
cover
the
netting
that
we
talk
about
in
the
mandatory
life
safety,
and
that's
all
I
have
for
that.
Any
questions.
E
Okay
and
move
on
basically
the
summary
recommending:
10.7
million
for
general
fund
additional
requests,
1.4
and
Enterprise
total
recommendations
is
12.2
million.
The
pay
plan
adjustment
we
had
16.5
million
that
we
discussed
last
week.
E
You
also
had
questions
about
the
fire
recruit
pay,
so
we
talked
with
a
buyer
with
Chief
Korea
and
Dr
Chief
Cruzan
and
we
are
going
to
adjust
the
trainees
pay,
so
they
will
be
paid
the
same
amount
as
a
firefighter
at
step.
One
their
hours
will
be
adjusted
and
then
that
will
result
in
an
increase
from
firefighter
training
to
firefighter
step,
one
of
approximately
5.56,
so
that
will
level
that
out
soon
and
then
there's
no
additional
impact
to
the
budget,
because
we
don't
budget
for
recruits.
E
C
E
E
E
C
E
So
total
recommended
requests.
13.7
offsetting
was
three
6.4,
so
total
total
funded
needed
total
funded
funding
needed
I'm.
Sorry,
I
can't
talk
anymore,
7.2
the
pay,
adding
the
pay
plan
adjustment
as
we're
recommending
it's
23.8
million
dollars
that
we
need
in
funding.
E
Okay,
so
just
talking
about
the
arpa
funds
and
how
we
could
use
utilize
those
funds.
This
is
today
the
unallocative
portion
that
we
have
is
6.6
million
dollars.
If
you
remember,
we
had
allocated
3.7
for
the
property
tax
increase
in
2021
that
we
didn't
have
to
utilize,
because
our
revenues
came
in
higher.
We
also
had
allocated
3.4.
G
E
C
Right,
but
that
doesn't
count
the
from
the
prior
Slide
the
amount
you
identified
right.
Okay,.
E
So
that
total
amount
would
be
1.5
million
there,
so
we
could
use.
Let's
not
use
it.
Utilizing
too
too
much
of
that
6.6,
so
everybody's
agreeable
to
allocating
those
funds
we
can.
We
can
use
1.5
million.
We
do
need
to
allocate
additional
funding
to
the
Hope
Center
and
the
Jamesy
Lewis
entrepreneurial
Resource
Center.
I
E
We
have
to
have
it
allocated
by
a
certain
time
frame
and
spent
by
a
certain
time
frame.
Yes,
I
think
it's
allocated
go
ahead,
mayor,
I'm,
sorry,
I,.
F
E
Well,
that's
why
I
might
be
wrong.
I'm!
Sorry,
it's
actually
2.8
million
dollars,
council
member
shade,
so
the
bottom
line
right
now,
our
draft
budget.
We
have
the
six
point
without
any
of
these
additional
requests.
It's
6.5
million
in
general
fund
8.9
in
Enterprise,
so
our
total
surplus
of
15.5
million
dollars
and
then,
if
we,
the
13.7,
we
have
3.6
million
for
offsetting
funding
resources
and
then
I'm.
Sorry,
it
was
almost
2.7
million
for
arpa
funds,
so
that
would
leave
us
with
whatever.
A
E
Around
3.7
million
in
our
funds-
and
that
would
mean
we
would
need
an
additional
8.3
million
dollars,
because
we
have
that
surplus
of
15.5
right
now
in
the
general
funded
Enterprise
funds.
C
C
Appropriate
term,
given
that
you
know
that's
the
funding
that
we
can
apply
to
the
total
funding
needed,
but
so
you
still
end
up
needing
an
additional
8.3.
That's.
E
So
moving
forward,
we
talk
about
ways
to
balance
the
budget
before
additional
Revenue
considerations,
there's
property
taxes
we
have
gone
through
this
week
or
so
ago.
Value
of
a
mill
is
1.7,
so
one
mill
would
generate
1.72,
mils,
3.4
and
3
mils
is
5.1
and
our
Village
Bank
is
6.85
or
5.2
mils.
E
E
Basically,
our
our
citizens
are
going
to
feel
that
increase
at
all,
so
our
net
millage
went,
went
down
actually
from
before
and
I'll
show
you
the
net
millage
graph
in
a
second,
but
also
keep
in
mind
that
with
a
recession
that
could
affect
loss.
So
we
can't
rely
on
this
happening
every
single
time.
We
increase
millage
because
Oak
option
sales
tax
won't
over
always
affect
it
in
that
way
or
impact
it
in
that
way.
D
So
Amy,
when
we
talked
Village
and
compare
millage
with
you
know,
North
Charleston,
Mount
Pleasant,
you
know
other
surrounding
areas.
H
E
D
D
G
D
Especially
with
the
world
of
inflation
today,
and
we
all
experiencing
it
somehow,
we
almost
need
to
Market
this.
It's
just
a
great
idea:
I
mean
putting
the
lost
family
back
to
it.
So.
E
E
F
D
E
Do
I
know
I
did
that
local
option
sales
tax
tutorial?
If
you
want
to
call
it
that
a
while
back
I,
don't
remember
but
I'm
sure
we
can
include
some
type
of
calculation,
so
just
kind
of
show
how
that
works.
Yeah.
E
D
I
mean
I
mean
the
reasoning
why
the
net
millages
60.8-
and
you
know
in
the
case
of
22.,
so
you'd
have
a
obviously
it's
lost
Revenue.
The
effects
of
lost
Revenue
our
lost
Revenue
reduces
the
net
millage.
F
E
Okay
and
then
that's
the
impact
to
our
citizens.
If
we
were
to
change
our
local
option,
sales
tax
policy.
E
C
H
D
Let
me
ask
this
I
guess:
I
asked
this
to
me
and
all
the
councils.
You
know
how
when
Harper
money
came
in
and
we
used
Opera
money
to
obviously
give
B
raises
and
bonuses
and
things
like
that,
and
you
know
you,
you
actually
put
a
press
release
out
on
that.
How
come
we
don't.
D
Know
I
pressed
release
out
of
you,
know:
City
of
Charleston
rebates.
You
know
0.27
of
local
option
sales,
tax,
reducing
city
tax,
City
residents,
taxes
like
you,
know,
X.
In
other
words,
when
we
use
offer
money,
you
get
a
big.
You
get
a
big
article
when
we
I
guess
the
guys
in
Colombia,
when
they
envisioned
lost
Revenue,
helping
municipalities
and
taxpayers.
D
This
is
what
they
envisioned.
In
other
words,
what
is
it
73
or
72
percent
has
to
go
back
by
law
to
reduce
property
taxes,
and
then
you
get
a
municipality
coming
along
for
the
better
part
of
I.
Don't
know
20
years
giving
all
of
it
back
and
what
has
been
the
result.
A
leveling
off
of
military
I
know
I,
know
every
municipality
doesn't
do
it,
but
we
do
and
and
yeah
I
sure
would
like
us
to
get
that
more
credit
for
what
we
do.
B
D
C
I
I,
it's
it's
complicated,
though
you
know,
because
the
the
figure
you
see
on
your
tax
bill
is
not
a
net
figure
and
so
and
not
and
honestly,
a
story
like
this.
We
we've
tried
to
float
some
things
about
our
AAA
credit
rating
about
other.
C
You
know
positive
news
about
how
well
Amy
and
the
team
manages
our
city
finances
and
honestly
the
media
doesn't
seem
to
be
interested
in
this
kind
of
stories.
You
know
they
if
it
bleeds.
It
leads
right.
D
C
Up
for
trying,
because
I
think
it's
a
great
story,
but
it
it
is
a
complicated
story
in
a
way,
and
you
know
there's
no
there's
no
bleeding
here
so
I'm,
not
sure
how
much
how
much
coverage
we
would
get
councilmember
shade.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
Amy,
a
couple
questions
you're,
showing
a
four
percent
legal
residence
ratio.
Did
you
do
one
of
these
for
six
percent.
E
I
F
E
E
I
We're
looking
at
we're
looking
at
options
to
practice,
8.3
million
dollar
shortfall
right
so.
I
E
And
then
you're
gonna
do
where
we
only
give
back
75
percent
and
we're
going
to
keep
25
percent.
I
F
I
So
this
isn't
taking
consideration.
I.
Think
part
of
this
is
this
is
sort
of
a
double
whammy.
If
you
increase
the
millage
by
three
and
then
you
don't
have
100
back
of
the
Los
T
funds,
taxpayers
increasing
their
taxes
by
a
hundred
and
something
dollars,
150
plus
a
village
increase
of
three
meals.
K
E
So
expenditures
we
can
come
through
the
recommendations
and
reduce
the
amount
we
are
recommending.
We're
recommending
focus
on
just
on
the
top
priorities,
departmentally
and
city-wide,
and
then
we
talked
about
this
before
for
the
pay
plan.
If
we
were
to
reduce
that
in
any
way,
one
percent
total
cost
would
save
us
1.3
1.,
one
percent
per
police
is
six
368
000,
one
percent
buyer
alone
is
301
and
one
percent
per
non-sporn
would
be
a
657
thousand
dollar
reduction.
E
So
next
steps,
that's
my
question
council
member
shade:
do
we
want
to
entertain
a
tax
increase
to
cover
the
shortfall?
Is
it
straight,
Village
loss?
Only
a
combination
of
both
Village
Bank
allows
a
tax
increase
of
five
Mills,
so
that
would
equate
to
8.5
million.
E
Or
are
we
just
going
to
cut
expenses,
we
can
go
through
and
do
that
and
and
cut
as
it
just
operations?
Is
it
the
pay
plan
two?
So
those
are
just
some
decisions
that
we
need
to
make.
A
E
Well,
I
had
not
anticipated
a
tax
increase
because
I
know
that
that's
unpopular,
so
we
would
basically
probably
go
through
the
recommendation
of
expenditures.
So
I'm
not
sure
what
will
of
council
is
with
all
of
that.
B
And
we'd
have
to
find
what
from
expenditures.
B
B
C
I
mentioned
that
the
other
day
to
y'all,
when
we,
when
we
had
the
last
meeting,
that
many
of
the
departmental
requests
are
just
trying
to
get
us
back
to
where
we
were
pre-covered.
I
will
note
that
the
number
one
request
of
almost
all
the
Departments
was
was
to
adjust
the
compensation
as
we're
proposing
to
do
so.
C
C
So
we'll
talk
about
it
some
more
tomorrow
and
and
and
see
what
the
consensus
is
I
I
know:
we've
had
discussions
about
the
Los
t
for
the
last
few
years
and
I
I
think
most
of
you
all
know
my
position,
and
we
can
talk
about
this
much
further
tomorrow
at
the
workshop
I
I
just
keep
getting
back
council
member
Appel
to
to
the
fact
that,
with
over
the
years,
the
the
difficulty
to
fund
all
the
services
that
we
need
to
in
city
government
and
to
have
a
quote
legal
way
to
secure
revenue
and
and
not
use
it.
C
You
know
I
I
Stumble,
with
that
I'm
challenged
by
that
it
seems
to
me
that
we
ought
to
at
least
use
a
portion
of
what's
available
to
us
of
the
loss.
T
Revenue
was
set
up
that
way
for
cities,
municipalities
to
be
able
to
use
it.
A
number
of
them
do
and
I
I
get
it
theoretically,
with
the
with
the
chart
and
the
net
millage
the
impact
on
the
net
millage.
C
At
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
it's
the
it's
the
tax
bill
that
our
citizens
see
and-
and
you
know
when
they
get
that
bill
and
there's
just
this
credit
on
there
and
they
don't
know
where
it
come
from.
They
don't
know
really
anything
specific
about
it.
Other
than
there's
just
this
magical
credit
number
from
sales
tax
applying
to
to
their
bill
versus
the
the
millage
that
you
see
on
there
again.
I
just
think.
C
If
we
have
a
revenue
source
that
we
can
legally
use
long
term
that
that,
with
all
the
services
we
provide
that
that
we
need
to
utilize
everything
available
to
us,
but.
C
Chat
tomorrow,
I
think
somebody
else
had
their
hand
up.
K
Yeah
I
was
just
going
to
mention
I
think
between
now
and
tomorrow.
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
when
full
Council
gets
together
to
talk
about
these
issues
and
law,
specifically
how
some
of
our
neighboring
jurisdictions
handle.
This
issue
I
believe
the
city
of
Charleston's,
one
of
the
only
jurisdictions
that
gives
the
full
credit
back
I,
think
the
city
of
North
Charleston
doesn't
give
the
full
100
back
they're,
certainly
a
pro-business.
K
You
know
friendly
climate
I,
just
think
having
some
perspective
on
this
issue
could
be
helpful
as
we
sort
of
take
this
issue
up
again.
K
If
we
have
that
handy,
but
you
know
I
I
think
we
all
understand
at
least
I
hope
that
you
know
we
can
quibble
about
whether
this
department
needs.
You
know
this
system
or
that
piece
of
equipment,
but
we
can
maybe
chisel
away
at
some
of
the
numbers
there,
but
you
all
know
as
much
as
I
do
that
that
our
budget
is
driven
by
people
and
paying
people
and
Staffing
and
when.
K
Of
not
just
police
fire,
but
also
our
public
service
department
and
some
of
these
other
functions.
We
have
got
to
fund
these
departments
to
operate
a
City
that
provides
the
services
at
the
level
that
our
constituents
have
come
to
expect
in
demand
and
I
think
that
this
post
Ian,
you
know,
trash
pickup
issue
was
sort
of
just
one
little
test
study
of
that
Dynamic
and
I
know
our
crews
are
doing
an
amazing
job,
but
you
know
we
can't
provide.
K
You
know
better
service
when
we're
under
staff
and
and
solving
that
problem
starts
with
us.
It
starts
with
budget
and
I
think
that
that's
really
what
this
is
going
to
be
about
this
time
around.
So
those
are
my
thoughts
for
now
but
appreciate
all
the
work
that
everyone's
doing
on
this.
D
It
was
me
I,
I,
hear
your
conversations.
I
understand
both
sides
of
the
argument
yeah,
but
when
those
those
people
may
not
understand
why
they
get
that
credit,
but
they
do
understand
the
minus
that
it
reduces
their
property.
Taxes
by
that
part
is
clear
all
the
things
that
councilman
Appel
just
said.
D
That's
why
we
get
paid
the
big
bucks
I
have
no
problem
telling
any
constituent
that
I
will
vote
for
a
millage
increase
to
pay
our
police,
our
fire
and
our
sanitation
workers
and
I
will
be
upfront
about
that.
It's
the
aspect
about
the
the
Lost
revenue
is
it's
like
a
backdoor
tax
increase
and
we
don't
have
to
tell
the
people
about
it
it
to
me.
It's
about
trans
transparency
and
from
an
accounting
standpoint.
Millage
rate
from
a
revenue
stream
is
much
more
dependable
to
any
government
than
sales
tax.
D
Really
so
the
moment
the
economy,
dips,
the
sales
tax
revenue
gets,
but
not
the
millions
and
that's
what
we
really
depend
on
to
pay
those
some
of
the
same
salaries
that
was
just
spoken
about
I
agree
with
councilman
Appel
that
we
need
to
pay
out
people
I
don't
want
to
reduce
the
paypan.
A
penny
I
think
our
people
are
worth
more,
but
this
is
what
it's
recommended.
This
is
what
we
can
do
and
if
it
takes
a
families
rate
to
do
it
I'm
up
for
re-election
action.
D
They
have
no
problem
voting
for
that
whatsoever.
So
when,
when
people
say
they
want
to
cut
taxes,
we'll
relate
that
back
to
cutting
police
cutting
firemen
and
cutting
that
same
them
same
men
and
women
that
come
and
pick
up
that
trash
out
of
your
neighborhood.
So
you
know,
in
my
case,
I
think
it's
clear
that
the
millage
is
the
more
dependable
stream
of
Revenue
to
any
government
to
depend
on.
In
particular,
municipal
government
depend
to
depend
on.
We
saw
the
situation
with
with
Hospitality
taxes,
accommodation,
sales,
taxes
and
lost
Revenue.
D
I
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
recognize
Amy.
She
is
a
seven
day
worker.
She
I
was
on
the
checking
my
emails
yesterday
and
we
were
exchanging
email
between
eb9.
That's
what
they'll
tell
her.
Thank
you
for
all
the
hard
work
and
the
hard
work
of
her
staff.
I
mean
it's.
What
would
a
dedicated
group
of
people
we
have
working
in
our
finance
office
and
that
wanted
to
make
that
shout
out
very
loud
and
clear
to
you?
Amy
y'all
do
a
yeoman's
job.
I
You
always
have
and
I
really
appreciate
how,
when
you
come
into
balancing
this
budget,
do
you
need
all
the
control
of
the
side
of
what
our
Revenue
should
be?
So
when
things
get
a
little
bit
better
than
we
anticipated
it's
like
a
present,
we
get
at
Christmas
time
and
you're
doing
that,
but
I
just
want
to
Echo
some
of
the
things
that
councilman
wearing
in
council
member
Appel
said.
Yes,
we've
got
to
fund
with
our
our
people,
and
the
proposed
pay
increase
has
got
to
be
fully
funded.
I
We
mean
take
some
tweaks
with
that,
but
that's
part
of
the
problem,
but
that
that
slide
you
show
us
every
year,
Amy
on
the
The
Net
versus
gross
millage
is
a
very
telling
sign
on
all
of
that
and
what
our
our
net
millage
really
turns
out
to
be,
and
that's
because
of
the
100
Los
T
funds
I
go
back
to
our
our
taxpayers
and
I
really
do
want
to
see
if
you
can
put
it
all
together.
I
Amy
with
the
in
Impact
is
on
that
on
a
non-residential
homeowner
with
that
lost
Revenue,
not
giving
back
to
them,
but
other
than
that.
I
really
just
appreciate
the
work
that
y'all
have
done.
This
has
been
a
good
discussion
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
where
we
are
tomorrow
at
our
Workshop.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
Thank
you.
H
Amy
is
there
a
relationship,
a
a
statistical
relationship
between
gross
and
net,
based
on
or
pattern
based
on,
the
lost
100
percent
of
loss
I
mean
for
instance,
three
years
ago,
millage
was
such
and
such
but
20
it
got
a
20
reduction
because
of
lost
and
that
Trend
seems
to
go
across
the
board
is.
Is
there
any
relationship
like
that.
E
We
have
to
look
at
that
a
little
bit
more
Rick
to
see
what
was
happening
in
those
years.
I
think
if
I
understand
you
right
anyway,
yeah.
H
I
mean
just
taking
2019
I
mean
the
gross
Village
was
86.6
net
was
64.9,
you
know
what
percentage
of
that
decrease.
I
guess
most
of
it
is
due
to
loss.
That's.
H
E
Maybe
we
did
it,
I
mean
we
just
you
know
those
are
based
on
actuals
and
budget
right.
So
what's
actually
happened,
we
haven't
done
it
based
on
an
average
over
time.
You
know
what
I
mean.
Is
that
what
you
mean
just
kind
of
look
at
it
as
an
average
over
time?
Absolutely.
E
C
So
here's
another
way
of
thinking
about
it,
maybe
May
ultimately
hello-
is
l-o-s-t-
is
it
is
a
sales
tax
right
and
we're
just
Allowed
by
state
law
to
utilize
a
little
portion
of
it?
So
you
go
out
in
the
city
and
you
pay
a
hundred
dollars
for
something.
That's
that's.
C
Full
sales
tax
is
applicable
to
not
groceries
and
a
dollar
of
that
purchase.
A
dollar
would
get
added
to
it
right
as
a
local
one
percent
local
option
sales
tax,
and
so,
if,
if
we
are
allowed
to
keep
up
to
what
30
percent
of
it
approximately,
but
we
only
kept
half
of
it,
that
would
be
about
15
15
of
the
total
so
of
that
dollar
15
cent
would
go
to
the
city
budget
and
85
Cent
would
get
credited
to
everybody's
Collective,
Property,
Tax,
Bill
and
and
I
I
guess.
C
My
point
is
in
funding
city
government.
We
got
all
these
different
ways
to
fund
city
government.
We
got
millage,
we
got
fees,
we
got
business
licenses,
we
charge
a
golf
fee
when
you
go
play
golf,
but
you
add
all
those
different
things
up
to
create
a
composite
of
funding
for
our
total
operations
and
for
to
be
diverse.
In
my
view,
to
have
a
as
many
sources
to
rely
upon
you
know
is
is
a
benefit
to
the
city,
long
term,
and
so
in
this
example.
C
If
you
used
half
of
what
we
would
be
allowed
to
under
state
law
or
15
cents
off
of
that
dollar,
to
add
to
our
other
sources
of
revenue
to
to
make
up
the
total
pot,
you
know
I
just
think
long
term
for
future
Mayors
and
future
city
councils
to
set
the
precedent
to
have
that
available
to
us
as
a
as
a
funding
source
and
I
I
recognize
sales
taxes
are
are,
can
can
vary
from
one
year
to
the
next,
but
you
know
it's
it's
it's
good
to
have
a
that
diversity
of
sources
to
to
fill
out
the
picture
so
to
speak.
C
Anyway.
That's
that's
my
point
of
view
and
I
know.
Everyone
doesn't
agree
with
that,
but
I
I
think
long
term.
For
for
our
Financial
Health,
to
have
that
tool
in
the
toolbox
is
is
is
a
good
thing,
so
I
I
should
have
probably
saved
that
for
tomorrow,
councilmember
Waring,
but
since
I
found
out
I'll
call
on
you
again.
D
Well,
we'll
have
we'll
have
a
good
roundabout
on
I'm
sure.
Let
me
ask
this
Mr
Men,
Amy
and
I
guess
the
clerk
you
know,
I
had
asked
for
the
executive
session
or
council
members
in
the
mail,
obviously
to
discuss.
Oh.
C
E
I
just
want
to
you
know
we'll
meet
I
guess
for
tomorrow.
I
guess
my
recommendation
is
just
going
to
be
cuts
Latin
because
there's
no
other
recommendation
for
Revenue
editions
and
then
we
can
just
talk
about
all
the
revenue
options
later,
but
a
recommendation
will
be
cut
coming
out
of
this
meeting
and
then
with
discussion
on
Revenue
items
afterwards,.
E
We'll
have
the
November
9th
meeting
and
based
on
what
happens
tomorrow.
We
can
hopefully
pull
something
together
and
have
a
draft
budget
done
or
to
discuss
and
then,
like
Jennifer,
said
the
advertisement
from
the
draft
budget
and
students
over
by
the
17th.
We
have
another
ad
hoc
committee
meeting
on
November
16th,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
we
necessarily
need
that
we
need
to
have
another
full
Council
Workshop,
so
we're
considering.
If
we
maybe
we
can
make
that
into
a
full
Council
Workshop
rather
than
just
ad
hoc.
B
Hey
Amy,
this
is
this
is
Dudley,
so
tomorrow
you
will,
you
will
be
providing
us
with
an
example
of
if
we
decided
to
go
the
expenditure
route,
which
ones
we
would
cut
or
where
we
would
cut
it.
B
I
think
it's
important
to
see
more
than
one
alternative
here,
and
you
know
if
we
can
do
some
changes
to
the
expenditure
without
necessarily
having
to
deal
with
loss.
E
B
E
D
I
do
I.
Do
I
just
go
with
a
little
bit
more
money,
Mr
Mayor
remember
there
was
supposed
to
be
an
additional
increase
from
CWS
with
them,
keeping
up
I'm,
bringing
it
the
amount
they
pay
the
city
up
to
inflationary
standards.
Remember
we
had
that
discussion
a
year
ago
right
so
I
sent
an
email
out
yesterday,
I
mean
earlier
today
and
heard
from
just
heard
from
Wesley
doing
this
meeting.
But
anyway
it's
going
to
be
an
additional
400
and
I'm.
Sorry,
additionally,
I
believe
433
dollars
a
year.
D
F
D
D
B
D
Not
I.
B
D
That's
what
you
meant
for
me,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you're
talking
about
lost
Mr
man,
but
the
taxes
that
we
should
be
collecting
I
still
believe.
D
The
the
overpayment
that
we're
making
to
the
PSD
is
just
I
think
our
council
is
going
to
have
to
step
up
and
make
a
and
make
a
decision
on
that,
because
our
net
millage
readers,
as
you
saw
less
than
0.61
and
22
60.8
and
I,
don't
know
what
it
is
with
the
PSD
but
I
believe
we're
pairing
them
twice.
What
we
collect
and.
G
D
We
have
to
pay
the
cost
of
servicing
the
properties,
that's
that
we
end
it.
So,
in
effect
we
are
supplementing
the
PSD
financially
I,
just
don't
think
the
tax.
It
wasn't
meant
for
the
taxpayers
to
pay
a
premium
to
supplement
a
special
purpose
District.
Those
dollars
should
be
coming
in
to
run
this
city
and
I.
Think
again,
if
we
had
the
net
revenue
off
of
that-
and
this
may
be
argument
for
next
year,
but
those
of
us
who
are
encounter
now
should
be
educated
on
the
millage
we
collect
when
property
Xanax.
D
Would
it
cost
us
to
service
that
property
in
the
amount
that
we're
paying
out
to,
in
this
case,
in
Andrew's
Public
Service
District?
That
would
be
at
the
bottom
line
net
revenue
that
would
go
on
the
millage
side
that
would
stay
with
city
government
and
and
we
just
it's
just
tightening
up
and
giving
a
tune
up
to
how
we
go
about
collecting
our
revenues
is
justifiably
the
City
of
Charleston
remedies
so
so
shortly
after
Amy
gets
all
of
this
and
I
mean
maybe
she
goes
to
the
Bahamas
or
something
and
comes
back.
C
All
right,
okay,
so
any
other
business
I.