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Description
City of Charleston Ad Hoc Budget Advisory Committee 6/29/2021
A
I'm
not
sure
I've
solved
the
echo
problem,
though,
but
let
me
know
I
don't
know
how
to
how
to
fix
that
rents
and
concessions
are
due
to
are
a
little
bit.
We
having
somebody
payments
from
tenants
that
we're
working
on
and
concessions
from
recreational
facilities,
just
because
of
the
pandemic,
were
slow
to
start
in
in
the
beginning
of
the
year
and
find
some
fortunes
that
are
below
because
of
those
are
police
clients.
A
B
A
A
It's
on
everybody's
mind,
so
we're
tracking
above
budget,
and
I
want
to
say
budget
because
that's
you
know
we're
very
conservative
in
our
budgeting
this
year
for
for
these
revenues.
So
right
now
we're
tracking
above
budget
our
projection.
We
see
this
2021
approved
column
and
then
what
we're
projecting
out
possibly
for
the
end
of
the
year,
will
be
we'll
be
in
a
better
shape
than
what
we
had
anticipated.
A
But
I
wanted
to
caution
everybody
because
I
hear
all
the
time
all
the
charleston's
coming
back,
we're
back
to
where
we
were
so.
I
want
to
show
you
where
we
really
are
so
using
the
projected
2021
projection
that
we
have
for
the
end
of
the
year
right
now,
that
is,
for
municipal
atax,
we're
around
where
we
were
in
2014
for
revenues
for
state
a
tax,
and
we
don't
have
a
different
projection
for
that,
because
we
only
have
one
quarter
of
information
from
them.
So
we're
really
not
comfortable.
A
E
E
A
A
D
A
Our
2021
budget
numbers
and
so
right
now
our
2021
actual,
is
right
at
our
2020
actual.
So
you
know,
2020
was
a
pretty
bad
year
for
us,
so
the
fact
that
we're
tracking
the
same
as
2020.
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
to
everybody
that
we're
we're
coming
back
slowly,
but
it's
not
we're
not
back
to
where
we,
where
we
were
so.
D
A
Okay,
so
the
american
rescue
plan
act,
arpa
funds,
aka
stimulus
funds,
payments,
local
donated
two
tranches.
First
half
is
60
days
after
enactment
we
have
received
our
first
charge
or
our
first
payment,
which
the
mayor
told
you
is
10
million,
546,
427
and
50
cents.
So
we
don't
want
to
forget
the
50
cents
and
then
we'll
get
the
second
half
one
one
a
year
later,
so
we
receive
that
in
june,
we'll
get
the
second
chance
in
june
of
2022..
A
The
period
is
covering
march
3rd
2021
to
december
31st
2024.
We
can
incur
costs
up
until
december
24
or
december
of
2024,
but
we
it
all,
must
be
expended
by
december
2026
and
if
it's
not,
then
we
have
to
return
the
funds.
We
cannot
spend
funds
on
any
pension
deposits
and
you
cannot
use
it
as
a
non-federal
match
for
federal
programs.
A
Just
a
little
bit
of
detail
on
what
those
four
categories
are
so
coping,
19
or
negative
impact
to
respond
to
the
public,
sorry,
health,
emergency
or
negative
impact
mitigation
and
prevention,
medical
expenses.
I
think
we've
kind
of
been
through
this
before
negative
economic
impact
has
assisted
households,
small
businesses
and
non-profits
partisan
communities,
loans,
grants
and
in-kind
assistance,
aid
to
impacted
industries
such
as
tourism,
travel
travel
and
hospitality.
A
A
Facilities,
grocery
stores,
contact
workers
performing
essential
work
are
also
elbow
eligible
contract.
I
should
say
sorry:
revenue
loss,
it's
it's
government
services
directly
provide
services
or
aid
to
citizens
and
maintenance
or
paid
go
funded.
Building
of
infrastructure
is
what
we
could
use
that
for
cyber
security,
health
care,
service,
school
or
education
services.
Please
fire
our
public
safety
and
then
the
fourth
is
investment
in
water,
sewer
and
broadband
infrastructure.
A
I
won't
go
through
all
of
those
I
have
this
in
here
I'll
go
through
it
fast,
because
I
know
none
of
you
really
care
about
the
audit
reporting
requirements.
This
is
more
for
us,
but
just
to
let
you
know
we.
We
have
to
actually
do
an
interim
report
july
31st
2021,
which
is
due
august
31st,
which
obviously
we
would
report
back
at
zero
and
then
there's
quarterly
reporting,
that's
required
as
well.
A
Any
cities
that
have
states
territory,
anybody
that
has
a
population
over
250
000-
has
to
do
an
android
recovery
plan
performance
report.
We're
obviously
not
required
to
do
that.
So
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
that
requirement
and
then
I
put
some
gfoa,
which
is
the
government
finance
officers,
association,
guiding
principles
because
we've
been
we've
been
following
the
gfoa,
because
that's
our
main,
what
we
look
at
all
the
time
for
our
accounting
budgeting
principles
and
their
recommendation
is
that
we
you.
A
Should
be
taken
to
avoid
creating
new
programs
or
add-ons
to
existing
programs
that
require
ongoing
financial
commitment?
I
know
we've
talked
about
this
before
too
it
should
cover
operating
deficits
caused
by
coca-19
should
be
considered.
Temporary
and
additional
budget
restraint
may
be
necessary
to
achieve
maintain
structural
balance
in
future
budgets.
A
Investment
in
critical
infrastructure
is
particularly
well
suited
use
the
arpa
phones,
because
it's
non-recurring
expenditure
that
can
be
targeted
to
strategically
important
long-term
assets
that
provide
benefits
over
many
years,
use
other
use,
other
dedicated
grants
and
programs
first,
when
possible,
and
save
our
funds
for
priorities
not
eligible
for
other
federal
and
state
assistant
programs.
Whenever
possible,
expenditures
related
to
the
arc
of
funding
should
be
spread
over
the
qualifying
period
to.
A
G
A
So
for
the
of
the
four
main
categories?
The
first
one
is
a
coven,
19
or
negative
economic
impact.
Additional
supplies
need
to
protect
against
the
virus.
Our
vaccination
costs
for
the
vaccination
clinics
that
we
have
right.
Now
we
have
about
thirty
one
thousand
dollars
reporting
additional
expenses
that
we
did
not
budget
for.
A
This
is
really
a
policy
decision
and
we
would
need
a
plan
on
how
we
would
distribute
the
funds
like
through
an
application
process
etc,
and
the
mayor
would
like
to
allocate
250
000
from
our
first
trunks
to
nonprofits,
but
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
all
that
later,
as
well
premium
pay
for
eligible
workers.
I
know
that
this
has
been.
B
A
Big
topic
late
lately,
especially
with
north
charleston,
offering
bonuses
and
things
like
that.
The
rules
are
very
restricted.
The
pay
cannot
increase
an
employee's
annual
wage,
more
than
150
percent
above
the
state
or
county's
average
yearly
wage
without
a
risk
written
justification
of
how
the
premium
pay
is
responsive
to
workers
performing
essential
work
during
the
public
health
emergency,
so
charleston
county's
annual
wage
totals
fifty
thousand
eight
hundred
and
ten
dollars.
So
our
limit
would
be
seventy
six
thousand
two
hundred
fifteen
for
our
employees.
A
G
A
A
Office
where
you
know
like
our
permit
center,
where
people
are
dealing
with
the
public
for
for
business
licenses
and
building
permits
and
things
like
that,
those
they
would
also
be
eligible
parking
revenue
collections,
any
of
them
working
with
the
public.
There's
no
question
at
all
that
they
would
be
eligible
for
that.
A
A
E
A
A
Council
membership
because
there's
two
paths
you
can
kind
of
take
with
these
funds:
it's
either
revenue
loss
or
negative
impact
economic
impact
and
for
us
for
revenue
loss.
We
did
not
provide
a
cola
for
our
employees
because
of
the
shortfalls
in
our
revenues,
so
we're
thinking
that
we
could
provide
a
bonus
to
all
of
our
employees
based
on
what
the
cola
would
be,
that
we
would
have
given
them
through
revenue
loss.
Does
that
make
sense.
A
D
A
D
B
D
A
Which
would
be
about
almost
1.2
million,
it
would
probably
end
up.
That.
Is
the
total
amount,
probably
being
a
little
bit
less
than
that,
because
we
there
were
some
organizations
that
didn't
they
didn't
have
their
whatever
their
initiatives.
Were
they
weren't
able
to
complete
them,
so
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
give
them
the
funding
and.
A
The
drainage
and
affordable
housing
transfers
that
we
cut
last
year
or
this
year
as
well
for
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
there's
a
process
for
revenue
replacement
for
the
revenue
loss
section
or
part
of
this.
You
have
to
look
at
the
past
2019
base
year,
revenue
and
recipients
average
annual
growth
of
the
past
three
fiscal
years.
We
did
that
calculation,
the
default
to
that
is
just
to
use
a
4.1
growth
rate
instead
of
looking
at
actually
calculating
your
your
specific
city's
growth
rate.
A
F
A
E
I
think
I
think
you're
answering
this,
but
if
you
go
back
to
that
prior
slide,
so
amy
as
as
you
showed
that
we
cut
like
fire
in
in
police
by
whatever
those
numbers
were,
is
what
you're
telling
us
here.
Is
that
not
only
can
we
restore
what
was
cut,
but
we
can't
use
some
of
this
10
billion
to
give
them
some
of
the
things
that
that
not
only
did
we
cut,
but
we
did
not
budget
for
them
as
well.
A
No,
not
anything
that
we
didn't
well
if
we
cut
it
from
the
budget
and
we'll
get
to
that.
We
had
very
specific
things
that
we
cut
from
the
budget
from
all
of
the
departments
that
we
could
restore,
because
it's
revenue
loss
we
weren't
able
to
do
those
things
that
they
requested
in
the
budget
because
of
our
revenue
situation.
A
A
E
Right,
but
what
I'm
asking
is
and
make
sure
I
understand,
not
only
did
we
cut,
but
we
didn't
budget
some
of
the
other
requests
that
they
wanted
as
well.
I
mean,
in
other
words,
in
the
normal
year.
Our
budget
would
have
grown
by.
I
forgot
what
that
percentage
was,
and
they
would
have
gotten
not
only
their
2019
budget,
but
they
would
have
gotten
a
2019
budget
plus
because
we
were
just
projecting.
A
E
A
A
G
F
A
So
then,
this
is
which
cash
should
we
take
this
kind
of
what
I
was
saying
with
revenue
loss.
Sorry
about
that
very
touchy
mouse
today,
so
there's
broader
latitude
to
use
the
funds
for
loss
of
revenue
versus
negative
impact,
premium
pay
or
investments
in
water
and
sewer,
and
the
reporting
requirements
are
much
stricter
with
the
negative
impact
premium
pay
or
investment
in
water
sewer
broadband.
A
A
F
A
D
F
A
Okay,
second
tranche
there
are
talks
of
taking
local
government
second
toronto
way
and
funding
the
infrastructure
bill
with
those
funds
we're
watching
it
very
closely.
National
league
of
cities
and
u.s
conferences.
America
heavily
fighting
against
this
happening,
but
there
is
a
chance
that
could
happen.
I
don't
know
rick,
you
could
talk
more
about
that,
but
I
don't
think
it.
B
A
F
A
Up
to
date
on
that,
I
think
rick
listens
to
it
as
well
so
plan
for
the
second
tranche
we
like
I
said
we
have
to
update
and
document
our
revenue
loss
for
2021,
depending
on
how
we
decide
to
use
it.
If
the
calculation
still
shows
a
continued
loss
of
revenue
trend,
we
can
use
those
funds
for
revenue
loss
purposes
and
we
will
have
to
continue
to
document
our
losses
every
year
until
all
of
the
funding
is
spent
and
then
a
plan
on
how
we
use
these
funds
should
be
developed.
A
Now,
while
we
are
thinking
about
trash
one
funds,
you
know
our
funding
is
limited.
You're,
hearing
a
lot
of
great
things
that
other
cities
are
doing,
but
they
also
got
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars.
So
it's
hard
for
us
to
be
impactful
in
the
community
with
the
limited
funds
that
we've
been
given
and
it's
easier
to
identify
internal
city
initiatives
which
path
do.
C
A
To
do
that,
that
might
be
an
effective
tool
for
us
to
use
to
document
how
we
plan
to
use
the
funds
and
then
possible
considerations.
Revenue
loss
provides
the
greatest
flexibility
in
spending
the
funds.
The
recommendation
would
be
to
follow
this
path.
This
was
kind
of
something
that
we
just
came
up
with
the
bonuses
to
employees
in
lieu
of
the
cola.
We
could
not
fund
and.
A
That
would
just
be
if
we
gave
everybody
a
three
percent
bonus
based
on
what
we
would.
It
could
be
less
or
more
than
you
know,
or
not
more
than
that,
probably
but
less
than
that
drainage
and
affordable
housing
tree
transfers,
the
one-time
expenditures
I
talked
about
before
the
grant,
applications
for
the
2020,
accommodations
tax
and
community
assistance,
the
grants
to
the
non-profits
and
then
because.
C
A
D
A
The
just
we
right
now
we
only
have
thirty
one
thousand
dollars
for
the
that's
basically
for
the
vaccination
clinics.
We're
doing
we'll
probably
have
more
expenses
by
the
end
of
the
year,
but
that
was
just
a
number
that
I
have
right
now.
So
that's
all
5.7
million
dollars
we
reached
the
first
tranche
the
recommendations
from
above
that
would
leave
4.78
million
dollars.
Second
tranche
would
be
10.5.
B
A
A
A
Right
now,
our
actual
river
crossing
pedestrian
bridge
is
a
little
bit
under
fun
or
yeah.
Underfunded,
not
the
match,
part
of
it,
but
the
the
project
itself
is
going
a
little
bit
over
budget
and
then
the
suggested
meeting
on
the
previous
slide
would
provide
citywide
perspective
to
discover
the
most
impactful
way
of
utilizing
the
funds.
D
A
D
F
D
F
E
A
Well,
so
that
that's
kind
of
your
your
decision,
you
know
that
that
would
be
taking
revenue
ongoing
revenue
away
from
from
the
city.
So
if
that's
what
you're
I
mean,
if
that's
what
you
all
want
to
do
for
2021
and
we
don't
have
the
revenue,
we
just
need
to
consider
what
we're
going
to
do
in
2022,
because
we'd
have
to
cut
the
budget
by
that
much
in
order
to
meet
the
needs.
A
D
A
D
B
A
A
B
A
D
G
D
D
A
D
A
A
Of
needs
in
this
city,
and
we
have
three
fire
stations
coming
online,
or
at
least
two
that
will
be
brand
new
in
the
next
three
years.
We're
gonna
need
that
property
tax
revenue
to
cover
the
additional
costs
that
we're
seeing
coming
down
the
line.
So
that
wouldn't
be
my
recommendation,
and
I
understand
if
we
do
have
a
surplus-
that's
super
great,
but
we
still
don't
know
that
until
the
end
of
the
year.
So
it's
hard
to
say:
okay!
A
D
D
C
A
B
A
B
A
D
A
D
A
And
we
can,
but
you
just-
we
probably
would
have
to
have
a
special
meeting
only
and
I'm
saying
that,
because
we
get
them
at
the
end
of
august,
berkeley
county
is
always
screaming
at
us
to
get
those
millage
rates
because
they're
faster
than
charleston
county.
So
it's
a
fast
turnaround
for
us
typically
for
when
we
set
the
millage
rate,
so
we
will
probably
have
to
set
a
special
meeting
just
to
get
all
that
done.
So
we
can
talk
about
it.
F
E
E
How
much
of
that
do
we
have
to
have
to
reach
a
3.7
million
dollar
increase?
You
know
when
it'll
be
a
windfall
because
of
the
number
of
properties
that
have
transferred
in
the
city
of
charleston.
That
would
be,
I
mean
there'll,
be
a
number.
We
would
it'd
be
very
difficult
to
kind
of
calculate.
Wouldn't
it.
E
A
A
A
E
E
A
A
Property
tax
revenues
were
what
we're
going
to.
This
is
just
with
the
information
that
we
have
today,
so
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
because
we
might
budget
higher
revenues
for
the
following
year.
That's
that's
right,
however.
Remember
we
cut
our
budget
significantly,
also
in
2021,
so
we're
at
some
point.
We
need
to
start
restoring
those
those
budgets
to
our
departments
as
well,
so.
A
G
Right
does
that
make
sense,
councilmember
that
she's
saying
that
we're
going
to
start
out
looking
at
it
at
a
deficit
in
2022
until
we
know
what
the
revenue
from
the
property
tax
or
any
other
sources
that
hopefully
will
grow
to
some
extent,
so
we
won't
have
16.9
million.
Maybe
we'll
have
12
million,
but
we're
still
going
to
start
out
thinking
that
we're
going
to
be
behind
what
we
were
in
2020
budget.
E
I
think
I
think
the
confusion
comes
into
play
is
that
the
3.7
million
property
tax
increase
is
to
be
used
for
the
2021
budget,
but
now
we'll
start
talking
about.
If
we,
if
we
keep
this
3.7
million
dollar,
this
millage
increase,
I
should
say
if
we
keep
the
millage
increase
into
play.
It's
going
to
help
us
not
just
with
the
2021
budget.
It's
going
to
help
us
with
the
2022
budget.
It.
E
I
I
I
understand
that,
but
the
millage
increase
was
passed
with
an
understanding
to
balance
our
budget
with
a
hope
or
expectation
that
we
would
get
some
kind
of
relief
from
the
federal
government,
and
that
was
the
promise
we
made
to
our
constituents.
So
we've
got
to
look
at
this
from
just
the
2021
budget.
E
A
And
I
understand
that:
that's
the
promise
that
was
made,
but
we
really
probably
should
just
not
have
done
it
then,
because
then
our
budget
wasn't
structurally
structurally
balanced
either.
So
I
get
what
you're
saying-
and
I
understand
I
understand
politically,
where
you
are,
I
just
it's
my
job
to
kind
of
tell
you
where
we're
headed.
E
No,
you
listen
amy
you're,
giving
us
good
advice.
I
mean
I'm,
not
I
I
think,
you're
being
very
straightforward
with
us
and
and
and
directing
us
as
the
way
you
should
be
doing
it.
I'm
not
taking
any
issue
with
this
at
all.
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
how
we're
going
to
be
able
to
fulfill
our
commitment
to
the
to
the
public
of
what
we
said
back
last
year
as
the
2021
budget,
and
I
get
what
you're
saying
I
fully
get.
F
So
it's
almost
like
you
gotta,
add
that,
on
top
of
of
what
we
had
to
do
in
order
to
balance
the
budget
last
year,
if
that
makes
sense,
so
I
know
we
have
this
discussion
about
what
was
said
last
year.
I,
I
would
just
say
it's
almost
a
realization
to
me
that
if
we
reduce
the
two
mills
based
upon
promises
that
were
made,
it's
almost
sure
that
for
next
year's
budget,
we'd
have
to
put
it
back
in
order
to
give
our
employees
a
cost
of
living
increase.
So
just
american.
A
Our
hr
committee
meeting,
so
I
didn't
put
any
of
that
information,
councilmember
jackson
as
well
in
the
slides,
because
it's
already
57
or
however
many
slides
long
and
I
didn't
want
to
do
that
to
all
of
you,
but
that's
another
thing:
councilmember
shane-
that
we
need
to
discuss,
because
our
our
attrition
rate
is
pretty
high
right
now,
not
for
sworn
but
a
non-sworn
and
we're
having
a
really
hard
time,
hiring
people
right
now.
So
we
will
bring
that
I'll,
bring
that
next
meeting.
D
D
D
F
The
answer
would
be:
yes,
we're
checking
what
the
eligibility
will
be
of
those
funds.
As
you
know,
helen
hill
still
serves
on
the
committee
sc
accelerate.
I
think
they
call
it
that
will
be
making
the
recommendations
to
the
governor
and
we've
we've
been
in
touch
with
her
and
I've
reached
out
to
mayor
knox,
white
of
greenville
who's
on
the
committee
as
well,
and
we
haven't
applied
or
asked
for
anything
specific
yet,
but
we're
checking
our
what
we
can
ask
for.
I.
D
C
Hey
I'm
going
back
to
the
property
taxes.
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that,
even
though
we
get
the
assessments
in
you
know,
august
september,
and
we
have
an
estimate
of
what
the
property
tax
revenue
will
be,
we
don't
actually
receive
that
revenue
until
january
february,
so
we
won't
really
know,
and-
and
this
doesn't
happen
very
often-
but
there
was
a
year
when
the
county
made
like
a
13
million
dollar
error
in
the
assessments,
and
we
ended
up
way
shorter
than
what
we
thought
our
estimate
was
going
to
be
in.
C
A
F
G
Thank
you.
I
just
piggybacking
on
councilmember
waring's
conversation
topic
about
the
state
funds.
The
one
time
do
I
I
know
right
now
where
we
rely
on.
I
guess
the
you
know
the
committee
that
we
do
feel
confident
in,
but
is
there
some
objective
third
party
that
will
break
down
the
eligibility
of
the
category?
So
potentially
we
can.
G
You
know,
maybe,
if
we're
not
gonna,
if
we're
going
to
do
revenue
loss,
primarily
with
our
use
of
the
20
million,
that
the
things
that
we
know
were
not
funded
or
we
had
to
give
back.
As
as
he
said
about
that,
about
the
swimming
pool,
improvements
and
the
now,
we
know
that
actually,
bike
bridge
is
gonna,
you
know,
have
a
shortfall
or
something
so
can
can
we
make
a
list
of
the
things
that
we
would
like
to
use
one-time
money
for
and
then
see
how
that
fits
in
with
the
state?
G
F
F
D
F
F
H
H
F
Well,
we're
always
about
process
improvement.
I
don't
know
specifically
which
part
of
the
discussion
you
have
in
mind,
but
you
want
to
let
me
know
offline
or
right
now,
it's
fine
yeah.
I
mean
we
we've
all
been
looking
at
our
revenue
streams,
as
you
all
recommended.
Last
year,
we
just
recently
came
to
you
with
the
increased
fees
for
for
use
of
the
public.
Right
of
way
we
approved
at
our
last
meeting
we're
going
to
look
probably
bring
to
you
before
the
end
of
the
year.
F
Some
fees
for
extra
trash
and
garbage
collection
and
people
are
exceeding
the
amount
that's
allowed
by
our
our
regulations.
At
this
point,
there's
there's
there's
others
to
come,
but
we
we
we've
continued
to
look
at
process
improvement
all
along,
but
if
you
got
something
specific,
let
me
know
councilmember
jackson.
G
One
more
thought
I'm
having
I
mean.
Obviously,
we've
got
the
city
plan
in
front
of
us
to
be
you
know
adopting
before
the
summer's
over,
and
I
think
my
read
of
it
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
good
suggestions
in
there
about
ways
that
the
city
can
make
itself.
You
know
more
impactful,
more
efficient,
more
effective,
so
that
that
would
be
a
good
document
for
us
to
look
at
as
a
budget
body
too.