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City of Charleston Army Corps 3x3 Advisory Committee 8/25/21
A
A
B
C
A
A
D
E
You
know
we
were
able
to
our
you
know,
thanks
to
mark
and
katelyn,
were
able
to
in
mayor
teckenberg
we're
able
to
get
a
time
for
september
14th.
You
know
we
briefly
discussed.
You
know
different
alternative
ways
or
or
looking
at
the
next
council
meeting
following
that
one,
but
we're
able
to
move
it
up.
So
I
want
to
try
to
get
as
much
done
today
at
our
next
meeting
and
be
able
to
present
at
that
14th
meeting.
F
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
very
quickly
and
and
not
to
repeat.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
some
feedback
on
things.
You
asked
me
to
look
into
last
time.
We
had
a
discussion
about
the
public
comments
from
the
first
release
of
the
report,
so
we
had
about
a
40-minute
conversation
with
the
entire
army
corps
team
about
the.
Where
were
those
comments?
How
were
they
considered
and
you'll
see
in
the
the
draft
report
when
it's
released
on
the
10th
that
they
there
are
about?
F
450
comments
received
those
broke
down
into
four
themes:
greater
potential
for
significant
adverse
effects
on
aesthetic
and
visual
resources
concerned
about
cultural,
historic
resources
and
the
need
for
a
more
detailed
programmatic
agreement,
lack
of
details
and
confidence
in
the
plan
for
compensatory
wetlands
mitigation
and
the
need
for
additional
evaluation
of
socioeconomic
impacts.
So
what
the
core
did
and
I'm
reading
from
their
draft
plan
here,
these
common
themes
have
been
considered
as
part
of
the
scoping
process
for
the
the
report
that
you'll
see
on
the
10th
as
well
as
the
eis.
F
F
As
the
chairman
said
september,
10th,
the
draft
plan
will
be
released.
It's
kailyn
and
I
are
going
to
try
really
hard
to
get
you
a
copy
before
that.
The
challenge
is
right.
Now
it's
with
the
legal
counsel
and
until
it
comes
out
of
their
legal
counsel,
we
just
can't
do
anything
with
it
more
than
than
what
we've
already
done
and
then,
as
the
chairman
said
again,
the
14th
and
the
is
is
a
great
day
because
they're
going
to
be
doing
an
update
and
that's
about
it
from
the
city.
F
I
can
tell
you
canon,
worked
really
really
hard
trying
to
incorporate
as
many
of
those
as
she
possibly
could,
and
she
had
to
put
up
with
me
not
knowing
how
to
do
what
I
do
and
so
as
soon
as
we
feel
comfortable
we're
going
to
try
to
get
those
out
to
you
as
well.
We're
working
on
getting
those
finalized
right
now,
so
anyway,
that's
been
going
back
and
forth
and
again,
thank
you
all
for
that,
but
with
that
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
the
chairman.
E
E
F
We
are,
we
want
to
get
the
comments
to
you
we'll
do
it
the
same
way.
We
did
it
last
time
we'll
take
feedback,
but
we
are
up
against
the
timeline
that
we're
we're
pressing
against.
So
it
was
not
easy,
taking
all
those
different
comments
that
way
and
putting
them
together,
but
I
can
tell
you
canon
worked
really
hard
on
it.
Like
I
said
I
didn't
make
it
easy.
C
E
G
G
G
The
delta
variant
has
certainly
presented
some
uncertainty
going
forward
with,
with
growth
amy
represented
that
the
city
is
operating
at
2017,
hospitality,
tax
numbers
and
2015
accommodation,
tax
revenue,
numbers
and
growth
in
those
sectors
is
is
definitely
unpredictable
and
delta.
On
top
of
that
has
provided
some.
More
importantly,.
G
There's
no
way
that
the
city
can
fund
the
non-federal
sponsors
share
on
its
own.
The
general
fund
can't
support
that
kind
of
debt.
So
it
is,
you
know
what
we
surmised
before
is
supported
by
amy,
that
the
city
can't
go
it
alone,
that
we
need
funding
partners
in
the
county
and
in
the
state,
and
just
because
our
our
bonding
capacity
says
that
we
might
be
able
to
incur
debt.
G
G
Bonding
does
not
affect
our
state
allowed
bonding
capacity,
and
so
we
we
asked
a
lot
of
questions
about
property
taxes
and
and
mid
and
municipal
improvement,
district
and
amy,
and
her
team
are
looking
into
a
municipal
improvement
district,
because
there
are
two
others
right
now
being
created
on
the
peninsula,
and
there
are
some
procedural
issues
with
with
potentially
creating
another
mid
that
would
encompass
the
entire
peninsula.
That
could
could
be
used
as
a
revenue
source
to
partially
pay
for
the
seawall
project,
and
that
could
also
be
problematic
with
with
citizens
adding.
G
G
You
know
what
is
the
value
of
the
medical
district
to
the
rest
of
the
state,
getting
some
hard
numbers
around
the
benefits
that
those
those
assets
provide
regionally
and
statewide,
so
that
that
was
the
crux
of
our
meeting
and
I'm
happy
to
address
any
questions
from
the
group,
and
I
see
amy
is
here
so
I'm
sure
that
in
her
report
she
can
dig
in
much
further
than
than
my
capabilities
are
she's.
The
expert.
E
F
F
That
sounds
great.
So,
following
the
meeting
with
that,
we
had
with
the
funding
group,
which
I
thought
as
well
was
a
very
good
meeting.
I
want
to
thank
cashman
for
taking
the
lead
on
that.
We
have
reached
out
to
a
number
of
organizations
throughout
the
region
and
we
currently
have
meetings
scheduled
with
folks
from
the
chamber
of
the
county,
one
region
crda,
as
well
as
the
west
edge
team
in
the
medical
district.
F
Okay,
those
are
all
happening
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
Those
are
on
the
calendar
and
we'll
be
talking
with
them
about
this
project.
At
the
same
time,
we
had
a
follow-up
meeting
with
amy
and
and
what
we
did
and
bob
I
I
think
you'll
you'll
find
this.
I
hopefully
this
will.
This
will
make
you
feel
a
little
better.
F
We
laid
out
the
the
total
cost
of
the
project,
and
then
we
broke
it
down
to
years,
one
through
five,
okay,
because
really
and
truly
the
way
federal
funding
comes
in,
and
I
reached
out
to
our
partners
in
norfolk
and
had
a
long
talk
with
them.
The
way
their
project
is
going.
You
really
can't
look
too
far
out
because
federal
funding
comes
and
spits
and
starts
and
trying
to
to
eat
the
whole
apple
at
once
is
really
difficult,
so
we
did
lay
out
a
years
one
through
five
plan.
F
I
I'm
beginning
to
feel
more
comfortable
with
what
the
costs
are
for
that
plan,
but
again
until
the
final,
until
this
next
plan
is
released,
I
wouldn't
put
you
know
a
whole
lot
of
stock
into
them.
I
would
say
what
the
army
has
asked
for
right
now
is
if
things
continue
to
move
along
well,
they've
asked
if
the
city
would
be
willing
next
year,
if
they
can
get
their
approval.
F
That's
the
big
big
big
big
dollar
amount
for
the
city.
If
you
think
of
phase
one,
a
majority
of
that
land
belongs
to
scdot
and
the
city.
Okay,
those
are
the
two
major
landowners
for
phase.
One
of
the
project
is,
but
it
gets
value
at
the
real
value
of
the
land.
Not
it
doesn't
take
into
consideration
who
owns
it.
So
if
the
city
owns
it,
we
get
credit
for
it
and
then
we
have
to
talk
to
dot
and
we
actually
have
a
meeting
with
them
next
week
as
well.
To
begin
those
conversations.
F
So
that's
where
we
are.
I
don't
want
to
go,
take
up
any
more
time
just
to
let
you
know
that
we've
laid
out
the
one
to
five
year
plan.
We've
got
a
number
of
meetings
with
our
partners
around
the
region
as
we're
beginning
to
feel
more
comfortable
with
what
the
final
numbers
will
look
like
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
and
see.
If
amy
has
any
comments
she
wants
to
make,
or
anybody
has
any
questions
for
her.
H
F
Right
now
it's
kailyn-
and
I-
and
this
is
really
just
at
the
staff
level,
so
that
the
folks
at
the
staff
can
get
an
understanding
of
what
this
project
is
all
about.
So
as
it
gets
released
on
the
10th
and
their
elected
officials
begin
to
ask
them.
Questions
hopefully
they'll
be
able
to
provide
the
answers
in
some
level
of
detail.
B
Yeah
mark
and
amy
just
a
quick
question
on
federal
funds.
We
know
we
can't
apply
the
city
can't
not
apply
federal
funds
toward
its
own
match
for
the
seawall
project,
but
looking
down
the
road
to
the
bed
phase,
does
that
restriction
apply
to
additional
enhancements
to
the
wall,
design
for,
for
example,
green
infrastructure
or
living
shoreline
at
the
edge
of
the
battery?
Could
those
be
considered
unique
in
ancillary
projects,
or
would
they
also
be
subject
to
the
same
restrictions.
F
H
J
J
Calling
some
of
the
economists
over
at
the
college
of
charleston
university
of
south
carolina
business
school.
They
helped
put
together
a
model
on
some
of
this
stuff.
I
think
the
ability
is
there,
but
it
has
to
be
a
momentum,
that's
built
as
a
citywide
and
prayerfully
county-wide
participant
in
this,
because
what
cash
and
said
about
what
happens
if
those
tourist
dollars
are
lost,
it's
just
not
lost
to
the
city
of
charleston.
It
goes
from
one
end
of
the
state
to
the
other.
J
So
thanks.
But
thanks
for
what
you're
doing
cashing
I
mean
yeah,
I'm
not
saying
that
the
place
getting
amy
involved
with
this
brings
reality
to
the
city
capabilities,
which
means
we
got
to
reach
out
to
our
friends.
I
see
our
friend
jordy
up,
geordi
yarber,
you
know
through
the
chamber.
She
knows
about
this
half
cent
sales
tax
piece.
I
mean
that
ravenel
bridge
wouldn't
be
as
high
as
it
is
today.
J
E
E
If
you
look
at
the
example
of
charleston
negative,
I
mean
that's
a
150
million.
If
I
remember
correctly,
I
mean
so.
You
know,
I
guess
the
thought
there
is
that
how
can
we?
How
would
you
look
at
or
how
were
you
looking
at
just
in
a
very
high
level,
knowing
that
you
hadn't
had
a
chance
to
kind
of
think
through
all
the
details
on
it.
C
I
I'm
sorry
I
thought
you
said
councilmember
wearing
you're
asking
so,
like
I
said
before,
like
this
has
to
be
obviously
a
partnership
between
everybody
that
just
looking
at
if
we
looked
at
380
million
dollars
or
the
number
that
we
had
as
a
match
for
the
city,
there's
no
way
the
city
could
bond
that
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
bond
it.
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
afford
it
and
it
would
be
probably
12
12
million
dollars
a
year
in
debt
payments
that
we
have
to
pay.
I
If
we
spread
that
over
50
years,
which
the
city
never
does
that
that
long,
we
only
do
15
to
20
year
debt
payments,
but
in
what
councilmember
wearing
was
talking
about
as
well
for
a
referendum,
it
has
to
be
county-wide,
so
the
municipalities
can't
put
a
half-cent
sales
tax
referendum
on
any
ballot.
It
has
to
come
through
the
county.
So
again,
that's
where
we
need
these
partnerships
with
the
state
with
the
county
to
try
to
get
this
done.
I
So
it
took
us
what
four
years
I
think
councilmembering
to
actually
get
the
20
million
dollar
affordable
housing
bond
in
place,
because
we
didn't
have
that
we
didn't
have
the
funding
to
be
able
to
pay
the
debt.
So
that's
when
I
say
we
have
this
big
capacity
in
our
debt
limit,
but
we
can't
afford
it.
We
can't
pay
the
debt.
Payment
was
my
point
that
I
made
the
other
day
and
12
million
dollars
for
us.
I
We
wouldn't
even
be
able
to
raise
taxes
enough
to
pay
that
debt,
because
we're
limited
by
the
state
and
how
much
we
can
raise
millage.
So
it's
just.
We
have
a
lot
of
challenges
against
us
just
from
what
the
state
kind
of
limits
us
to
do
and
just
from
you
know,
property
taxes
themselves.
We
don't
like
to
raise
property
taxes,
so
even
if
we
could
raise
the
taxes,
we
probably
wouldn't
do
that.
H
So
so
this
term
I
like
to
weigh
in
a
little
bit
quickly
here,
just
because
lawson
I
don't
want
to
get
lost
in
what
amy
was
saying
is
when
she
said
12
million
dollars.
That
was
12
million
dollars
for
50
years,
and
we
don't
do
that.
We
don't
do
12
million
for
one
year
and
if
you
know
we
raise
property
taxes
by
millage
rates
and
we're
capped
at
the
number
of
mills.
We
can
raise
in
any
given
year
to
six
and
six
translates
to
about
seven
million
dollars.
H
So
we
couldn't
even
tax
our
own
citizens
to
the
12
million
dollars
a
year
for
one
year,
let
alone
50.
and
just
another
thing
that
I'm
not
sure
that
in
her
very
complete
report,
kashin
mentioned,
but
amy
amy's
job
is
dictated
by
the
realities
of
our
economic
situation,
but,
more
importantly,
by
state
law,
and
we
are
bound
by
state
law
to
have
a
balanced
budget
every
single
year.
We
open
and
close
our
books
every
year
and
it
has
to
balance
out,
and
so
amy
puts
it
together.
H
She
presents
it,
city
council
adopts
it,
and
then
she
works
hard
to
make
sure
when
we
close
our
books
out
the
next
year
that
it
it
all
works-
and
you
know
12
million
dollars
here
for
50
years,
12
million.
There
makes
it
literally
impossible
because
of
what
our
revenue
sources
are
and
just
for
those
of
you
know,
our
annual
budget
and
our
general
operating
fund
is
in
the
215
220
million
dollar
range.
H
So
I
just
think
you
know,
as
amy
reports
she's
doing
so
in
the
in
the
within
the
bounds
of
of
what
she
is
limit,
limited
to
and
there's
just
not
many
resources
out
there
there's
no
way
we
could
put
on
a
city
ballot,
a
city
ballot,
a
referendum,
to
raise
bonds
that
would
help
about
12
million
dollars
because
we
couldn't
pay
for
them.
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
the
reality.
H
E
B
B
J
Let
me
let
me
take
that
one
on
that's
a
great
question.
Bob
we're
approaching
this
as
though
this
is
a
city
problem.
Only
north
charleston
has
flooding
problems.
The
county
has
flooding
problems,
but
we're
the
one
talking
about
it
promote
I
don't
want
to
give
them
put
them
in
a
negative
light,
but
we
haven't
included
them
in
this
effort
and
I
think
that's
a
huge
mistake.
J
J
Other
constituencies
came
in
with
mass
transit,
which
developed
a
coalition
to
go
to
the
whole
county
and
said
these
are
the
things
we
need
now.
We've
approached
this
from
a
city,
only
concept
we're
going
to
build
a
wall
around
the
peninsula.
You
realize
how
many
other
people
we're
leaving
out
of
this
process.
Potentially
that
can
contribute
to
the
cost,
but
we
got
to
fix
their
problems
too.
J
F
J
Bigger
than
380
million
as
being
our
match
just
financially
the
city
can't
do
that.
We
just
don't
have
the
ability
to
do
it
so
bob,
that's
the
answer
from
a
city
only
perspective
unless
we
include
the
county
we're
going
through
a
great
exercise
right
here.
It's
a
great
campaign
but
where's
the
beef,
like
the
lady.
H
B
F
H
Thing
on
the
top
of
that,
from
a
practicality,
viability,
standpoint
we
not
only
operate
under
a
balanced
budget,
we're
one
of
the
few
municipalities
in
the
state
and
even
in
the
country
that
has
a
triple-a
bond
rating
and
when
we
start
projecting
out
projects
that
are
going
to
cost
us
12
to
15
million
a
year
for
50
years.
Although
the
bond
rating
agencies
certainly
want
us
to
take
into
consideration
resiliency
and
they
should,
they
also
have
to
look
at
the
practical
realities
of
how
we
do
things
and
the
more
public
debt
we
put
out
there.
H
Our
bond
ratings
are
in
jeopardy
and
I
will
tell
you,
as
one
council
member
who
said
on
a
city
council
for
12
years
that
has
continuously
had
that
rating.
I
would
I
we
would
be
committing
governmental
malpractice
if
we
put
that
bond
rating
in
jeopardy,
because
it
allows
us
to
borrow
money
at
such
cheap
rates.
It's
crazy
and
do
all
the
things
we
need
to
do
in
the
city.
So
that's
also
something
that
needs
to
be
kept
into
consideration
and
I'm
sure
amy
doesn't
want
to
get
into
that
whole
debate
now.
B
In
order
to
you
know,
really
gut
check
this.
What
is
our
the
ravenel
bridge
keeps
coming
up
as
a
very
very
effective
example,
but
where
are
the
activities
that
mirror
that
and
the
notion
that
we're
going
to
approach
city
council
and
ask
for
endorsement
on
a
600
million
or
whatever
price
tag,
with
a
complete
lack
of
visibility?
J
Let
me
about
from
a
regional
approach,
and
you
know
I
talked
about
fundamentals
and
all
of
that,
but
you
had
me
as
rally
summi
and
palmy
that
were
around
the
table
to
help
put
together
along
with
the
business
community.
They
have
put
together
the
strategy
for
successful
half
cent
sales
tax
campaign,
so
but
all
of
those
mayors
had
problems
in
their
own
cities
that
they
saw
coming
together
would
create
this
pool
of
funding
to
help
solve,
and
we
see
it
now.
J
Every
time
you
johnny
dogs,
boulevard
didn't
look
the
way
it
looks
now
without
that
half
cent
sales
thing,
so
we
need,
as
a
city,
in
my
opinion,
to
be
a
convener
on
a
flooding
problem
for
the
county.
Charleston
certainly
can
start
that
you're
right.
It
is
disconcerting
that
we
that
hadn't
happened
to
this
date,
but
the
mayor
of
of
my
pleasant
mayor,
summi,
and
certainly
man
teckenberg,
along
with
the
business
community.
J
If
that
effort.
If
that
strategy
is
put
in
place,
then
I
think
we'll
come
up
with
the
funding
to
raise
the
money
for
the
match
to
move
forward,
but
it
would
be
in
a
more
comprehensive
way.
It
just
won't
be
a
wall
around
the
city,
it'll,
be
something
that
approaches
several
municipalities,
issues
from
flooding
drainage
simultaneously.
I
I
So,
if
we're
talking,
you
know,
this
committee
agreed
unanimously
to
move
forward
with
an
effort
for
an
integrated
water
plan,
but
the
study
that
we're
talking
about
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
mark,
is
specific
to
storm
surge
and
the
perimeter
protection
component.
So
I
think
we
need
some
guidance
on
how
to
address
that.
F
Yeah,
I
I
think,
you're
absolutely
right.
This
particular
study
was
funded
by
the
corps
at
100
for
storm
surge
under
a
specific
part
of
federal
regulations,
okay
or
specific
law.
It
was
as
a
result
of
storms
that
happened
in
1718-
I
don't
remember
which,
but
that
was
the
funding
mechanism
for
this
project
at
100.
Usually
these
projects
are
funded
at
50
50..
F
That,
I
think,
is
the
larger
big
tent
approach,
which
is
beyond
this
project,
but
inclusive
of
this
project,
which
would
be
a
a
different
effort
altogether,
but
certainly
not
one
that
shouldn't
be
undertaken
because,
like
a
council
member
pointed
out,
the
whole
region
has
these
challenges
and
they're
only
going
to
multiply
as
the
years
go
on.
So
this
one
was
specific
to
storm
surge.
F
Specific
to
the
peninsula,
if
we
wanted
to
take
or
if
the
city
decides
to
take
the
approach
of
convening,
that's
something
again,
that
we
would
leave
up
to
the
mayor
and
council
to
to
take
that
approach
and
then
use
some
of
that
money
from
whatever
generator
have
sent
sales
tax
to
help
with
the
match.
With
this,
if
I
got
did
I
understand
you
correctly,
council,
member
you're.
J
Right,
you
got
it
right
on
here
and
that's
why
I
brought
the
example:
half
the
first
half
cent
sales
tax
started
with
replacement
of
the
bridge,
but
look
at
what
was
passed.
What
was
passed
was
not
only
friction
of
replacing
the
raven,
I
mean
the
hookah
river
bridges,
but
how
many
road
projects
have
done
been
done
with
hassle
in
season?
How.
F
J
Charleston,
county
parks
and
recreation
space
was
expanded
because
carter
received
funding.
It
was
because
putting
that
bridge
project
on
as
a
property
tax
increase
on
the
homeowners
in
the
county,
which
is
so
expensive,
it
says,
hey,
we
got
to
find
another
way,
but
we'll
find
another
way
we
have
to
bring
in
other
constituencies.
J
J
Amy
has
has
substantiated
that
by
saying
listen
we
don't
have
the
ability
and
mike's
done
a
wonderful
job
about
talking
about
triple
a
credit
rating
and
the
necessity
to
balance
our
budget,
and
we
do
not
do
50
50
year
bonds,
so
our
match
is
unaffordable
by
city,
only
funds,
okay.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
pretty
easy
vote.
Father,
I
say
easy.
We
would
be
voting.
I
think
it
was
very
good
to
have
a
counselor
on
the
call
on
that
would
be
malpractice
if
we
were
to
vote
now.
J
I'm
not
talking
about
money
to
fund
a
study,
but
I'm
talking
about
the
big
enchilada
the
match
for
the
city
to
fund
this
project.
It's
it's
it's
responsibility.
We
don't
have
the
financial
ability
to
do
that.
We
just
don't
so
now.
Does
it
end
there
and
that's
the
disconcerting
part,
or
do
we
broaden
that
tent?
We
have
found
this
out
that
we
now
know
as
a
committee
that
does
the
city
have
this
money.
You
can
add
up
almost
every.
J
J
E
K
E
Exactly
what
you
know,
councilman
waring
has
pointed
out,
which
is
the
you
know,
hey.
We
cannot
support
this
alone.
We
would
need
to
reach
out
to
other,
you
know
relevant
funding
sources
or
how
does
that
look
specifically
and
again,
if
that's
a
revisit
type
of
thing?
Great,
it's
it's
obviously
I
know
it's
a
on-the-spot
question.
F
Yeah
I'll
just
take
a
quick
stab
at
it.
I
and
I
have
reached
out
to
other
communities
that
are
currently
going
through
this,
and,
but
I
will
say
I
don't
there's
again,
we've
started
this.
If
you
look
at
the
very
first
presentation
we
started
with,
we
recognize
this
could
not
be
a
city
only
project
I
mean,
I
think
those
words
are
in
presentations
so
probably
three
years
ago
that
we
said
we
couldn't
do
this
now
that
we're
getting
close
to
numbers
we're
reaching
out
to
these
partners
again.
F
What
I
can
tell
you
from
the
other
communities
is
that
they
are,
as
the
federal
funding
comes
in,
they
are
before
they
go
out
and
ask
for
that
federal
funding,
as
dale
had
mentioned
before
they're
going
to
come
to
the
city
and
ask
us
if
we
can
afford
our
mass
for
that
time.
So
is
this
something
that
we
should
say
we
can
get
our
entire
match
that
we
can
fund
that?
That
would
be
great
if
we
can
say
that
that
would
be
absolutely
wonderful.
F
F
You
know
one
of
the
things
just
to
the
impact
to
the
local
economy,
the
the
estimates
right
now
for
the
number
of
jobs
in
charleston
alone
or
over
10
381
jobs
is
what
this
project
would
generate
and
that
number
jumps
up
to
12
551
jobs
in
south
carolina
and
those
are
real
jobs
of
people
working.
So
the
economic
impact
of
this
for
our
citizens
is
pretty
incredible
and
those
are
the
types
of
things
that
we
need
to
be
start
taking
out
to
what
would
be
our
funding
partners.
F
E
Thank
you.
I've
lost
track
of
of
questions
as
far
as
order,
so
I'm
just
gonna
go
kind
of
top
down.
I
saw
a
number
of
hands
up
so
susan.
If
you
could
you
could
kick
us
off
questions
real,
quick,
it's
10,
15.,
we're
gonna,
try
to
end
this
segment
now
and
transition,
but
I
think
it's
appropriate
to
continue
this
conversation.
So
excuse
me
thanks.
C
My
thought
has
been
for
a
while,
and
this
reinforces
it.
We
are
operating
as
a
committee
on
the
army
corps
timeline
and
clearly
there
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
in.
In
my
view,
that
needs
to
be
done
both
in
examining
what
actually
we
may
be,
approving
or
not,
approving
or
recommending
to
council,
and
also
now
with
the
finances
we
haven't
done
the
work
in
order
to
be
sure
of
what
it
is.
C
We
may
recommend
or
not
recommend,
according
to
the
timeline
that
we're
now
working
on,
which
is
guided
by
the
army,
and
I
we
may
have
to
adjust
our
committee
timeline
to
do
the
work
that
the
committee
has
been
charged
to
do
by
the
city
council,
and
that
would
be
my
recommendation
at
this
point.
Thank
you.
L
Just
real
quick,
first
off,
I
want
to
thank
councilman,
waring
and
councilman
seekings,
because
they
have
provided
invaluable
insight
into
the
inner
workings
of
how
this
can
all
come
about,
and
I
want
to
also
piggyback
on
what
jordy
said
I
mean.
Ultimately,
I
would
love
for
us
to
be
able
to
approach
what
councilman
waring
has
presented,
which
is
a
more
regional
approach
to
all
of
our
issues
with
respect
to
water
management.
L
That
is
not
what
this
is
okay
and
I
think
we
have
to
be
laser
focused
on
what
this
advisory
committee
is
here
to
do
and
my
understanding
is,
we
are
here
to
make
a
recommendation
on
whether
or
not
we
think
this
perimeter
protection
approach
is
the
right
approach
to
take
as
sitting
here
on
this
member
of
this
committee
for
the
past
three
months.
I
consider
this
a
function
of
due
diligence
and
as
we've
worked
through
our
due
diligence,
I
think
it's
been
made,
relevantly
and
and
so
eloquently
done
by
amy.
L
We
do
not
have
the
wherewithal
to
do
this,
so
the
question
is:
do
we
abandon
this
and
start
over
and
take
a
different
approach
with
a
more
regional
approach
with
partners
and
maybe
looking
at
all
the
different
items
that
we
need
to
address
as
a
city
other
than
just
surge
protection?
Because
if
I
were
on
the
investment
committee
voting
to
approve
this
investment,
my
answer
would
have
to
be.
I'm
sorry,
but
the
facts
that
have
been
presented
do
not
warrant
this
to
be
a
viable
project
to
move
forward.
L
So
my
recommendation
is,
we
need
to,
as
a
committee
come
to
some
conclusion,
because
our
chairman
is
going
to
be
making
a
presentation
on
september
14th
and
we
have
to
arm
him
with
our
input
based
on
the
due
diligence
that
we've
done
over
the
past
three
months.
So
I'm
hopeful,
mr
chairman,
that
that's
where
we're
headed
is
to
provide
you
with
the
ammunition
to
go
and
make
your
presentation
to
council
based
on
what
this
committee
believes
is
a
sound
recommendation.
E
J
K
K
To
hire
to
know
that
it's
from
the
move,
but
listening
to
this
to
the
discussion
over
the
last
couple
weeks
and-
and
there
are
so
many
things
to
consider
here-
and
I
appreciate
everything
that
mike
and
dan
and
amy
are
fussing
with
that's
one
side
of
the
ledger,
and
that
is,
you
know
the
essential
side
of
the
legend,
because,
if
you're
going
to
do
something,
you
got
to
pay
for
it.
Okay,
so
that's
fine,
but
we're
missing.
I
think
a
discussion
and
I
would
just
draw
ourselves
back
to
the
discussion.
K
So
again,
what
would
be
the
impact
to
the
city
in
dollar
terms
in
the
provision
of
health
care
terms,
if
you,
if
a
surge
event
takes
out
or
hampers
the
medical
districts
functioning
for
a
number
of
months,
revenue
loss,
jobs
lost
repair
costs
for
all
those
things?
It's
because
if
you
get
a
surge
event,
it's
going
to
blow
out
some
of
your
drainage
system.
So
you
have
a
lot
of
things
to
consider
was
what
is
the
cost
of
doing
nothing?
K
So
I
just
I
want
to.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
forget
that
side
of
the
ledger
again
new
york
city,
sir
new
york
city,
took
a
20
billion
dollar
hit
from
hurricane
sandy,
which
really
wasn't
that
big
of
a
storm
new
york
city
has
much
higher
relief,
so
the
elevation
changes
pretty
quickly
there.
So
the
the
impacts
of
the
surge
event
were
limited
to
the
lower
parts
of
of
long
island
within
the
city
in
brooklyn,
rockaway
beach
from
those
places
in
the
financial
district
and
then
up
the
rivers.
K
But
it
really
didn't
go
that
far
inland
right.
It
really
went,
maybe
100
200
feet
inland
and
then
it
stopped
because
of
elevation.
Well,
that's
not
going
to
happen
here
so
just
consider
these
these
port,
the
that
portion
of
the
equation
too.
When
we
talk
about
what
to
do
again,
I'm
not
a
I'm,
not
an
advocate
for
this
particular
structure.
K
I
want
to
say
that
I
think
you
know
I
have
a
skepticism
of
what
of
how
the
army
corps
proceeds,
but
I
also
think
again,
I've
said
just
before
a
surge
event
is
a
black
swan
event,
but
when
it
happens,
it
will
wipe
everything
out.
I've
seen
it
in
so
many
places
so
just
be
aware
that
I
think
that's
an
important
part
of
this
equation
too.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much,
dale
and
I'll.
You
know
after
dan
dan
spoke.
I
pulled
up
our
original
ordinance
I'll
just
read
the
the
first
letters.
The
first
points
that
we
were
tasked
with,
which
is
one,
provide
a
recommendation
to
counsel
regarding
the
studies,
recommendations
as
potential
solutions
for
flood
protection
from
storm
surge
on
the
peninsula.
B
B
You
know
the
the
caught.
The
the
downside
of
a
disaster
here
will
dwarf
the
whatever
investment
this
ends
up
being,
but
if
we're
in
the
position
of
needing
to
influence
people
and
get
votes,
get
advocacy
and
support
to
get
this
project
funded
in
across
the
the
finish
line,
there's
a
big
difference.
You
know
the
spending
that
we're
talking
about
that
gets
represented
by
a
checkbook,
that's
real
dollars.
Somebody
has
to
sign
that
check.
B
The
the
downside
of
an
a
future
disaster
is
not
a
checkbook.
It's
a
spreadsheet.
It's
assumptions,
projections!
That's
why
it's
going
to
be
so
difficult
for
us
to
get
the
votes
for
this
because
that's
remote,
it's
speculative,
where
the
checkbook
is
very
real,
very
constrained
by
we've
heard
it
now.
City,
ordinance,
state
regulations,
and
I
think
that's
what
we're
trying
to
deal
with.
We
all
get
it
that
we're
trying
to
avoid
something
catastrophic
and
it
will
change
all
of
our
lives.
E
E
I
We
just
went
through
a
bond
rating
this
spring,
and
so
they
always
ask
us
the
questions
and
ask
what
we're
doing
before
resilience
purposes
and
so
far
they're
pretty
satisfied.
You
know
this.
This
study
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
say
we're
doing
so
I
mean
I
think
that
that
helps
in
our
in
our
response
to
the
rating
agencies
right
now,
they're
satisfied
with
what
we're
doing,
but
you
know
we
also
haven't
had
a
storm.
I
Last
year
we
got
a
one
year
reprieve,
I'm
hoping
for
another
reprieve
this
year
and
as
long
as
we're
moving
forward
and
doing
what
we
can
to
to
protect
the
city,
then
they'll
be
satisfied
with
that,
but
it
will
get
more
and
more
difficult
with
climate
change
and
everything
else,
so
they
just
they
just
want
us
to
be
as
proactive
as
we
can.
So
we
haven't
seen
anything
yet
from
the
rainy
agencies.
I
F
Just
a
quick
just
a
couple
of
quick
figures
that
in
2018
when
the
hurricane
florence
hit
south
carolina
hit
the
city
of
charleston,
it
was
a
65
million
dollar
loss
to
the
city,
and
that
was
a
tropical
storm
for
it
hit
us.
The
insurance
journal
lists
that
if
hurricane
hugo
were
to
hit
charleston
today,
it
would
cost
somewhere
between
15
to
20
billion
dollars
worth
of
damages.
F
So
those
are.
Those
are
the
figures
that
you
know.
The
army
has
used
some
of
that
in
its
study,
as
well
as
that's
what
I'm
reading
on
the
insurance
journal.
So
just
I
I
think,
bob's
questions
are
I
love
the
way
you
frame
that
bob
spreadsheet
checkbook?
I
love
that
and
I
think
that's
right,
and
so
anyway,
those
are
good
numbers.
I
think
the
other
piece
and
I'll
just
stop
after
this
is
that
the
army
has
spent
four
years
with
a
whole
economics
team.
F
Deciding
this
question
is:
is
it
worth
federal
investment
because
of
the
damages
that
would
be
caused
by
these
events?
Is
their
federal
interest
and
what
you'll
see
when
the
draft
report
comes
out
that
there's
significant
federal
interest
in
the
federal
government
investing
in
this
project
so
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
G
Kind
of
tag
teaming
on
what
mark
was
just
talking
about
it's
a
little
scary
mark
and
I
are
on
the
same
wavelength
right
now,
but
you
know
we're
getting
further
and
further
away
from
that
three
storm
three-year
storm
trifecta.
That
pushed
us
towards
getting
everybody
on
board
with
the
dutch
dialogues,
and
I
think
that
further,
not
that
I'm
wishing
a
storm
event
upon
us,
but
I
think
the
further
away
that
we
get
from
those
events.
G
The
pr
effort
around
this
project
becomes
a
little
more
difficult
for
us
and
also
the
fact
that
we
haven't
had
a
major
storm
event
since
1989
with
hurricane
hugo,
and
that
was
devastating
and
it
was
a
miss
for
charleston.
You
know
the
direct
hit
was
mccullen
villain.
I
don't
know
how
many
folks,
I'm
sure
councilman
waring
you
were
here
when
hurricane
hugo
hit.
I
was
here.
I
was
10,
but
I
remember
it
very
well,
but
I
don't
know
how
many
people
remember
it
was
devastating
to
the
city.
G
I
mean
I
trumped
through
four
feet
of
water
with
my
family
in
hurricane
hugo,
but
you
know
they're
not
that
many
residents
here,
probably
who
experience
that
and
they're-
probably
a
lot
of
new
people
here
now
that
maybe
miss
that
trifecta
of
three
years
of
terrible
flooding
from
storm
events
that
were
not
direct
impacts,
one
of
which
the
the
storm
eye
hit
west
of
us
with.
I
guess
that
was
irma
mark
mark.
Was
it
irma
yeah?
G
So
you
know
I.
I
don't
wish
the
storm
event
upon
us,
but
I
do
think
if
we
do
need
to
have
that
as
part
of
our
these
storm
events
as
part
of
our
dialogue
as
part
of
our
pr
effort.
If
this
is,
you
know
the
path
that
we're
going
to
go
down,
we
need
to
talk
about
these
things,
that
these
are
devastating
events
and
talk
about
those
costs,
and
none
of
these
were
direct
impacts
to
our
city
direct
hits.
I
should
say.
E
That's
that's
a
great
point.
You
know
I
yeah
the
like
my
dad's
side.
Family
is
from
mclellandville
and
we
have
a
marker
in
our
house
there
that
it's
about
12
feet
in
the
air,
it's
pretty
remarkable,
which
is
the
water
line.
So
anyway,
it's
a
pretty
incredible
day
dan.
I
saw
your
hand
up
and
then
what
I'd
like
to
do
after
after
you
suppose,
your
last
comment
or
question
is,
you
know
just
to
put
up
kind
of
which
is
you
know
our
our
task
for
the
ordinance?
E
L
The
last
thing
I
wanted
to
say
is,
I
think,
as
a
committee,
what
I've
heard
over
the
course
of
the
last
three
months
and
I
think
dale's
right,
I
don't
think
any
of
us
would
say
that
we
don't
want
to
do
anything.
The
question
is:
if
we're
going
to
try
and
raise
500
million
or
more,
is
this
the
best
investment
to
make
to
combat
the
issues
that
we're
having?
L
I
think
that
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
I
think
that
we
all
agree
whether
it's
300
400
500
a
billion
dollars
whatever
it
is
that
we
need
to
go
find
whether
it
be
through
a
regional
effort
or
through
the
council,
whatever
it's
going
to
be,
what
is
the
best
investment
to
make
with
respect
to
the
issues
that
we
encounter
with
managing
water
in
this
region?
So
absolutely
from
what
I've
heard
on
this
committee,
none
of
us
think
that
we
don't
have
a
problem
and
it
needs
to
be
addressed.
E
C
E
E
Perimeter
protection
is
incorporated
in
those
in
the
discovery
report
protections
incorporated
in
that
report.
We've
heard
a
lot
about
it
on
all
of
our.
You
know
various
educational
meetings,
and
so
point
is
I'd
like
to
get.
Obviously
we
have
this
august
or
issue
14th
meeting
come
up.
I'd
really
like
to
get
our
that
perimeter
protection
language
revisited
to
incorporate
into
into
our.
You
know
final
comments
to
city
council.
E
E
Number
two:
okay,
great!
I
see
it
yeah,
it's
nothing!
So
you
know
the
three
by
three
y'all
can
see
the
language
in
italics
right
in
the
middle
of
the
screen
still
in
mind.
Just
take
a
second,
you
know
read
through
it
and
let's
just
start
a
discussion
as
far
as
framing
this
in
and
finalizing
it
in
order
to
incorporate
it
into
my
presentation
to
city
council
on
september
14th-
and
you
know
we
can
talk,
commentary
addition
subtractions
whatever
needs
to
needs
to
go
in
there,
but
really
like
to.
E
Yeah,
I
mean
because
you
know,
we've
talked
about
this
in
concept
for
a
handful
of
meetings,
done
an
open
discussion
and
really
reached
no
resolution.
As
far
as
that
discussion
goes,
I
mean
we've
had
a
lot
of
just
you
know
back
and
forth,
but
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
is
reach
some
finality
with
this
recommendation
or
to
move
forward.
C
I'm
still
not
sure
I
understand,
because
I
don't
think
we've
done
enough,
diligent
and
detailed
research
to
make
any
recommendations.
Yet
I
think
everybody
is
fully
aware
of
the
threat.
That's
why
we
are
engaged
with
the
army
corps
and
it's
why
this
committee
exists,
but
based
on
a
whole
bunch
of
other
things
that
that
mission
laid
out
at
city
council.
I
don't
think
we've
done
enough
work
to
make
any
recommendations
at
all.
I
think
it
sort
of
goes
without
saying
that
the
perimeter
of
the
peninsula,
the
entire
peninsula,
is
at
risk.
C
E
I
think
the
point
of
this
is
just
a
high,
very,
very
high
level.
Hey
does
perimeter
protection
in
any
sense
in
any.
You
know,
with
any
sort
of
caveat
subject
to
in
any
format
makes
sense
or
not,
based
on
what
we've
seen,
and
so
you
know
we're,
there's
a
lot
of
questions
about
what
the
specifics
are.
C
D
A
We
then
brought
forth
the
14th
because
of
some
feedback
from
the
last
meeting
that
about
the
water
plan
recommendation
not
coming
forth
yet.
So
I
think
the
committee
needs
to
decide
in
your
update
if
they'd
at
least
like
to
place
the
water
plan
recommendation
on
the
14th
and
if
they'd
like
to
place
you
on
the
agenda
for
the
14th,
because
we
need
to
let
the
clerk's
office
know
by
tomorrow
morning.
So
I
think
that's
what
the
committee
needs
to
decide
today
and
we
can
certainly
go
before
council
on
the
14th
and
the
28th.
C
I
And
then
that
gives
us
time
you
know
again.
I
appreciate
the
effort
you
put
into
this
statement.
You
shared
on
the
screen,
but
that
gives
us
time
to
circulate
some
language
that
the
group
is
comfortable
with
and
particularly
based
on
our
conversation
today,
I
think
that's
got
to
include
a
specific
approach
to.
E
H
E
E
A
We
may
look
to
push
the
start
time
just
a
little
early,
because
we
actually
do
have
our
presentation
mark
and
I
and
dale
will
be
joining
us
that
week,
slv
starting
we'll
have
a
presentation
to
the
county
folks,
so
we
may
just
need
to-
or
some
of
us
may
need
to
jump
off,
but
I'll
send
it
around.
But
our
next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
the
8th
and,
as
mark
mentioned,
we
hope
to
may
be
able
to
provide
you
some
details.
A
I
E
A
J
E
A
Makes
sense
all
just
going
off
of
our
every
every
other
week
we've
had
it
just
so
happens
that
it
falls
two
days
before
our
draft
report,
but
I
can
certainly
send,
if
there's
consensus
of
this
committee
to
potentially
not
meet
again
until
after
the
draft
report
is
out.
We
can
pull
some
dates
together
to
see
what
works
for
everybody.
J
You
know
one
other
tip
that
I
threw
up
before
the
presentation
on
the
28th.
You
know
the
pattern
has
been
council
reads
certain
things
in
the
newspaper
before
they
hear
that
council
it
may
be
good
and
councilman
seeking.
I
appreciate
your
input
too.
Can
some
sort
of
I
don't
know
information
be
sent
out
to
council
prior
to
the
presentation
on
the
28th
and
prior
to
council
reading
in
the
newspaper.
J
Sometimes
it's
offensive
to
read
in
the
newspaper
which
you
hadn't
been
told
that
you
should
have
been
told
on
a
committee
that
you
voted
to
put
in
place.
That's
been
the
pattern
franklin
of
manchester
mayor
rowley
saw
too
that
we
got
information
prior
to
if
it
hit
the
newspaper.
It
was
a
surprise
to
him.
We
got
a
lot
of
information
prior
to
the
meeting
and
on
something
like
this,
like
what
do
you
think?
I
think
I
think
some
information
ought
to
be
given
to
council.
J
J
E
C
C
I
think
we
could
certainly
produce
it
and
it's
aimed
pretty
much
at
the
public
in
general
and
also
at
politicians
and
people
who
have
not
kept
up
with,
what's
going
on
here,
very
understandable,
because
we've
had
covet
and
everything
else
to
deal
with.
I
would
suggest
coming
up
with
a
statement
by
the
committee
to
accompany
that,
just
as
a
briefing
to
city
council
ahead
of
that
more
formal
briefing
that
you
do
as
the
chairman
and
I'll
be
happy
to
work
with
you
on
that.
C
E
J
Format
and
make
insurance-
all
I'm
saying
is
the
probability
is
something's
going
to
be
reason.
The
pattern
has
been
not
with
this
committee.
With
this
administration.
The
patent
has
been
it's
released
in
the
newspaper
and
then
we
get
told
about
it
at
council.
Frankly,
that's
offensive
right,
so
I
think
whatever
bullet
point
is
gonna
be
released
to
the
newspaper,
send
out
some
emails
to
it's,
not
that
you.
J
Over
council
member
sneakings
and
myself
frankly,
we've
been
asking
a
few
questions
about
a
few
council
members,
but
they
depended
on
this
committee
to
do
a
lot
of
due
diligence,
but
I
don't
think
we
would
want
the
majority
council
to
read.
They
want
us
to
do
what
in
the
newspaper
and
come
and
hear
the
chairman
coming
telling
the
same
thing
on
the
28th.
J
J
That's
some
of
the
thinking
that
we
got
to
all
move
that
momentum
in
a
positive
direction
and
the
way
things
have
been
rolled
out
in
some
cases
in
the
past
it
will
exacerbate
not
bring
together-
and
I
said
you
know
this
is
a
sincere
effort
with
all
of
you
all
in
this
committee
right
here
and
there's
some
good
work
being
done.
Yeah,
there's
a
big
boogie
out
there.
We
put
people
on
the
moon
and
bring
them
back,
brought
them
back
and
did
it
a
couple
times
over.
You
know
dan.
J
The
money
is
out
there,
dana
beach
in
the
paper.
This
one,
you
know,
said
about
the
he's
worried
about
the
political
leadership
to
be
able
to
get
the
money.
You
know
from
other
constituencies
and
on
this
one
right
here.
If
there's
going
to
be
a
catalyst
to
help,
build
again
bring
that
effort
together
to
build
that
political
leadership,
I
don't
mean
on
council,
I
mean
on
a
regional
basis.
It
is
this
committee.
It
starts
with
this
committee.
J
Most
successful
movements
in
america
has
been
started
by
a
relatively
small
amount
of
move
people
and
it's
expanded
from
there.
So
in
this
case,
this
is
the
relatively
small
amount
of
people
that
can
build
that
momentum
through
you,
mr
chairman,
hopefully
for
a
wider
audience
to
say
yeah,
we
need
to
fix
these
problems
so,
but
I
think
you
know
throwing
it
out
in
newspaper
to
say:
oh,
this
is
how
bad.
F
C
Or
you
know,
at
the
community
commentary
period
whatever
it
is,
you
don't
want
to
blindside
people
in
charge
of
the
city.
It's
not
fair,
so
I
do
agree
with
that
and
I
was
hoping
to
have
that
initial
piece
of
paper
out
by
now.
But
I
know
doug
is
working
on
a
zillion
things,
so
I
I
will
try
to
get
back
to
him
and
find
out
what
kind
of
timeline
we're
on
with
that.
C
K
K
I
think
yeah,
thank
you.
So
perception
is
reality
with
this,
and
what
I
would
suggest
is
I'd
ask
the
committee
to
ponder
whether
or
not-
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
possible,
but
the
media.
A
meeting
on
september,
8th
if
mark,
can,
can
cajole
the
corps
of
engineers
into
either
mark
presenting
to
the
committee.
Talk
to
you
all
for
the
core
presenting
to
you
all
the
highlights
of
the
of
the
september
10th
release.
K
As
I
understand
it,
and
the
communication
group
is
going
to
say
that
embedding
the
structure
of
a
the
need
for
is
for
perimeter
protection,
maybe
not
the
identical
protection
that
the
core
is
recommending,
but
protection
for
the
for
the
peninsula
being
integrated
into
an
entire
water
plant.
I
think
that
has
to
be
part
of
the
public
messaging,
otherwise
that
councilman
waring
is
absolutely
right.
K
The
people
in
john's
island
or
the
people
in
mount
pleasant
or
the
people
in
north
charleston
they're,
not
gonna
or
the
people
in
the
other
parts
of
sydney,
west
ashley
they're,
not
gonna,
go
along
with
hey.
Why
should
we
pay
for
this?
So
it's
the
integration
of
both
of
those
components-
that's
going
to
be
important
publicly,
but
I
think
this
committee
needs
to
understand
exactly
what
the
updates
that
the
corps
has
made,
because
I
think
they
are
consequential.
K
E
E
Obviously,
we
still
have
a
lot
of
question
marks
out
there,
but
you
know
going
back
to
ordinance
what
we're
tasked
with
you
know.
We're
tested
looking
at
you
know,
comfortable
situations
and,
and
you
know
providing
concepts
there
and
so.
Okay,
hey,
I
just
gotta,
know
from
kevin,
saying:
hey,
I
support
being
on
nine
eight
if
we
can
have
an
advanced
briefing
on
the
core
update.
So
you
know
with
that
in
mind.
E
Kayla,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
doing
you
know
what
you'd
mentioned,
circulating
some
emails
and-
and
let's
you
know,
see
see
if
if
we
do
get
an
advance
update
great,
let's
just
keep
the
time
frame.
If
we
don't,
let's
look
at
pushing
that
back
in
order
to
to
review
that
on
our
next
meeting.
Obviously
it's
it
sounds
like
it'll,
be
a
big
update,
so
certainly
very
relevant.
F
Hey
good,
can
I
just
add
one
comment,
just
just
for
the
record
here.
I
did
start
reaching
out
to
the
council
members
last
week
and
this
week
asking
them
if
they
wanted
to
go
over
the
updated
plan
for
the
exact
reasons
that
councilmember
waring
mentioned,
so
that
they
could
then
have
a
chance
to
formulate
questions
ahead
of
the
september
14th
presentation,
the
city
council
or
the
10th
of
the
release,
so
that
that
effort
has
started
and
I'll
continue
with
that
councilman
wearing.
E
E
G
Of
course,
and
b,
their
constituents
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
distinguish
the
city,
council,
tennis
project
or
a
state
project
and
they're
going
to
start
getting
questions
from
their
constituents
when
this
rolls
out
and
appears
in
the
paper.
So
I
think
we
need
to
start
this
engagement
project
process
immediately.
So
you
know,
maybe
perhaps
the
mayor
sends
a
delegation
letter
giving
or
an
email
or
something
giving
the
delegation
a
heads
up.
C
I
just
had
one
thought
about
meetings,
since
this
is
such
a
big
document
and
we
will
get
an
advanced
briefing.
Do
you
think
it
might
be
useful
to
have
a
meeting
out
of
our
committee
on?
I
guess
it
would
be
the
15th
in
order
to
come
to
terms
as
a
committee
with
what
we
have
learned
about
the
new
document
before
we
go
ahead
and
try
to.
C
I
I
don't
think
we've
had
enough
discussion
on
the
essence
of
what's
in
the
core
design,
and
and
maybe
this
new
revision
will
be
wonderful
and
we're
all
going
to
love
it.
Maybe
not,
I
don't
know,
but
I
think
we
need
to
discuss
the
specifics
in
light
of
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
that
were
made
on
plans
that
we
had
presentations
about
and
that's
going
to
take
some
time
and
effort
by
all
of
us.
So
I
think
maybe
we
might
schedule
a
second
meeting
right
after
we've
been
briefed
so
that
we
can.
A
I
can
certainly
send
out
you
know
just
looking
at
the
calendar
based
off
of
our
every
other
wednesday
that
we
have,
if
we
don't
do
the
eight
that
obviously
we'd
have
to
find
another
date
or
we're
only
looking
at
one
more
meeting
before
the
update
on
the
28th.
So
what
I
can
do
is
send
out
a
few
dates
if,
if
the
consensus
of
the
committee
would
be
to
add
an
additional
meeting
between
the
report
release
and
the
28th.