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City of Charleston Army Corps 3x3 Advisory Committee 7/14/21
A
Just
going
to
hit
record
so
everybody
knows
we're,
recording
okay,
council
remember
wearing
see
him
one,
yet
I
know
councilman
seeking
said
he
isn't
going
to
be
able
to
make
it
today.
A
Mr
batista,
I
don't
see
him
on
yet
doug
warner.
A
B
A
C
Yeah
again,
thank
you,
everybody
for
for
your
time
today.
I'm
sure
folks
will
continue
to
to
roll
in
and
knowing
we
are
in
a
travel
season
and
but
yeah.
I
appreciate
everybody
taking
taking
the
time
today.
I
think
you
know
today
will
mark,
as
I
mentioned
my
email,
I
think,
a
shift
in
and
what
we're
doing
or,
namely
you
know,
as
we
laid
out
in
the
first
meeting.
C
Starting
with
you
know,
do
we
want
the
perimeter
wall
at
a
very,
very
high
level,
and
I
think,
based
on
you
know
what
we've
seen
so
far.
I
think
you
know
we
can
press
forward.
You
know
from
that
issue
issue
and,
and
second
note
being.
If
so,
what
modifications
do
we
need
to
make,
and
so
I
think
that'll
be
the
subject
of
of
the
ongoing
meetings
is
to
be
making
specific
resolutions,
nodes
modifications
with
regards
to
the
to
the
perimeter
wall,
and
so
I
appreciate
everybody
taking
the
time.
C
I
think
the
topics
to
cover
today
are
the
the
water
plan
recommendation,
which
will
be
our
first
recommendation
getting
that
approved
and
out
so
that
we
can
get
that
get
that
moving
forward.
Secondly,
the
next
agenda
item
was
the
communications
update.
I
think
that's
that's
relevant
as
well,
and
also
you
know
the
other
update
there
is
that
we
have
the
funding
and
eis
working
groups
organized
as
well
and
then
next,
the
presentation
on
the
city
of
charleston
comprehensive
plan
from
the
city,
and
then
you
know.
C
Finally,
you
know
get
into
more
detail
on
on
the
various
recommendations.
You
know
we'd
like
to
we'd
like
to
cover,
so
you
know
with
that
said,
you
know:
we've
worked
through
and
redlined
a
version
of
the
water
plan.
Mr
t
recommends.
D
D
Five
on
our
agenda
begin
committing
discussion
on
recommendations
for
the
perimeter,
protection
system
and
my
questions
and
the
reason
I
wanted
to
say
this
at
the
top
of
the
meeting
is
so
we
perhaps
we
can
all
be
thinking
about
it
by
the
time
we
get
to
number
five.
Look,
I'm
a
process
person.
I
think
a
lot
about
process,
and
I
don't.
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
how
our
process
is
going
to
function
from
here
on
out.
D
I
know
we
have
working
groups
that
are
those
are
important
to
divide
and
conquer
our
work,
but
I
don't
understand
how
the
working
groups
are
going
to
feed
into
the
process,
and
I
don't
understand
the
timeline
you
know.
For
example,
I
know
that
there's
a
draft
letter,
that's
going
to
the
army
corps,
that's
part
of
the
course
process.
D
D
So
maybe
you
all
understand
the
questions
that
I'm
asking
and
I'm
the
only
one
out
of
a
loop,
but
I
I
I
feel
like
in
addition
to
talking
about
the
what
of
our
recommendations,
we
need
to
talk
about
how
we're
going
to
work
together
and
be
really
clear
about
our
process,
so
that
that's
my
that's
my
request,
mr
chairman,
and
I
hope
we
can
have
more
dialogue
about
that
when
we
get
later
into
the
agenda.
C
Yeah,
I
think
that
that'll
be
covered
number
five.
So
you
you
asked
a
few
questions.
Then
one
was
just
you
know.
Where
are
we?
I
think
we
had
to
get
through?
Obviously
the
education.
Some
people
are
very
well
educated
on
specific
topics,
not
on
others.
I
think
there
were
some
comments
that
that
I
have
heard
throughout
the
process
that
show
again
very
specific
understanding
in
something
areas
and
not
in
others
and
so
getting
everybody
on
the
same
level
of
education.
I
think,
is
a
crucially
important
thing
number
one
number
two.
C
I
think
your
second
note
about
going
forward,
like
you
pointed
out,
I
think,
that'll
be
covering
this
number
five
and
work
together
and
figure
out
what
resolutions
we
we
do
want
to
make
and
what
topics
we
do
want
to
cover
and
we'll
post
that
to
the
to
the
group,
of
course,
and
in
the
third
or
really
is
the
second.
That
was
the
third
point,
but
the
second,
you
know
the
point
you
made
about
the
letter
from
the
city.
I
I
have
no
clue
on
that
one.
C
So
I
have
to
kick
that
to
to
mark
or
caitlyn.
E
Yeah,
let
me
just
be
clear:
it's
not
a
letter
from
the
city,
it
is
the
city's
portion
of
the
report
where
we
would
where
we
are
busy-
and
I
do
have
an
update
laura
from
our
phone
call.
Yesterday
we
are
busy
gathering
right
now
from
city
staff
they're,
the
folks
that
we're
gathering
input
from
when
we
get
the
input
from
the
city
staff,
we're
going
to
compile
that
together.
E
Kailyn-
and
I
had
a
long
talk
yesterday
with
the
with
our
attorney
staff,
and
we
think
it's
probably
wise
to
if
you
can
give
us
a
some
additional
time
to
get
all
of
the
input
from
the
staff
together
and
then
be
able
to
share
those
thoughts
with
you.
There
will
be
plenty
of
time.
I
just
got
off
the
phone
before
this
we'll
have
time
to
be
able
to
work
on
those
comments.
E
It's
not
like
they're
one
and
done,
but
we
do
want
this
committee
to
at
least
be
able
to
see
those
be
able
to
comment
on
those.
But
it's
not
a
letter
to
the
core
with
any
specific
recommendations.
It's
more
are
part
of
the
the
things
that
we're
working
on
and
I
can.
I
could
give
you
all
a
very,
very,
very
definitive,
sneak
preview.
They
look
a
lot
like
what
you
saw
in
the
wagner
ball
perimeter
protection
report.
E
They
tend
to
follow
the
the
outline
very
very
closely
so,
which
is,
which
is
also
the
outline.
If
you
all
would
have
saw
the
report
that
we
were
ready
to
submit
before
we
contracted
wagner
ball.
Those
were
very
similar
to
the
the
comments
that
we
had
put
together
then,
which
are
also
based
on
the
various
components
that
we've
been
hearing
in
public
comments.
Since
we
started
this,
so
it's
all
very
consistent
all
the
way
back
to
the
beginning,
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that
yeah
susan.
F
I
do
want
to
echo
what
laura
said
and
I
just
want
to
add
one
one
thought
before
we
get
going
and
that
is
that
we've
been
operating
to
some
degree
in
our
heads,
according
to
the
army,
corps,
schedule
and
deadlines,
and
I
think,
as
this
committee
goes
forward,
maybe
as
we're
approaching
this,
we
set
our
own
deadlines
and
and
have
a
really
clear
idea
about
what
has
to
happen
when
on
on
the
part
of
our
committees
and
our
working
groups.
E
C
Yeah
absolutely
absolutely,
and
we
can
I
mean
it,
you
know
we
can
keep,
obviously
keep
that's
what
this
whole
number
five
is
for,
so
so
absolutely.
E
So
the
july
15th
date-
that's
probably
I
apologize
update,
probably
should
have
never.
You
know
gotten
into
this
committee's
group,
because
you
know
what
it
did.
It
got.
Everybody
focused
on
a
date
that
really
is
not
as
important
to
this
group
as
it
is
to
myself
and
scaling
in
our
workload,
but
there
will
be-
and
I
just
learned
this
this
morning-
the
the
army
corps
of
engineers
is
going
to
be
releasing
a
draft
report.
I
believe
september
10th
for
everybody
in
the
community
to
be
able
to
see
that'll
be
the
first.
E
The
eis
will
follow
that
my
recommendation
and
I
will
leave
this
and
then
I
think
we
move
on
to
to
the
to
the
agenda
and
and
turn
it
back
over
to
the
chairman.
E
We,
I
would
recommend
to
the
group
I'll
recommend
to
the
chairman
that
this
group,
as
part
of
its
work,
look
to
have
a
couple,
if
not
three
recommendations
for
the
chairman
to
make
to
city
council
during
the
august
city
council,
meeting
okay,
which
is
probably
four
weeks
from
next
tuesday,
considering
next
tuesday's
the
city
council
meeting.
E
So
I
think,
to
the
extent
that
you
can
drill
down
on,
I
believe,
there's
one
coming
up
and
possibly
a
second
you
could
get
through
today
and
then
kind
of
pick
on
what
that
third
recommendation
might
be
doesn't
mean,
that's
the
end
of
him.
It
just
means
it's
an
update
that
he
provides
to
city
council
on
the
work
of
the
committee,
so
I
will
offer
I
will
argue
as
a
path
forward.
E
Okay
and
really
what
we
need
to
do
is
the
week
before.
We
need
to
make
sure
they're
on
city,
council,
agenda
and
kailyn,
and
I
spoke
yesterday
we're
going
to
start
working
on
that
next
week
and
that
way
we
can
make
sure
that
they
get
there
there's
a
placeholder
for
us
and
then
we'll
fill
in
the
blanks.
As
we
as
you
all
finish
up
your
work,
we
don't
want
to
drive
the
process,
but
I'm
just
outlining
what
I
think
would
be
a
good
set
of
steps.
C
And
what
what
dates
for
those
meetings
yeah?
I
can
look
it
up.
Yeah
myself,
but
but
if
you're
new,
a
fan.
C
E
Yeah
and
as
long
as
we
have
a
placeholder
for
you
to
speak,
you
would
have
actually
the
28th
and
then
again
on
the
11th,
because
we
don't
have
to
have
the
recommendations
fully
outlined
for
the
agenda
meeting.
You
just
have
to
have
them
prepared
when
you
step
to
the
podium.
E
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
next
item
is
the
water
plan
recommendation
susan
submitted
a
a
very
well
worded
word:
did
alternative,
basically
write
up
accomplishes
the
same
goal
like
and
and
speaking
with
bob
you
know
this
morning.
I
think
you
know
it
added
a
word
that
he
mentioned
is
particularly
relevant.
I
think
god
got
it's
a
very
good
point,
which
is
that
we,
we
had
a
unanimous
vote
by
the
committee
to
begin
this,
this
comprehensive
water
management
plan.
C
So
I
think
that
that
item
and
of
itself,
I
think,
is
an
important
addition
and
again
susan
is
very
well
written
and
certainly
appreciate
that
testament
testament
to
you
so
wanted
to
get
an
official
vote
yeah
and
we
do
have
a
kaelyn
correct
me
wrong.
We
do
have
a
quorum
here,
I
believe,
or
else
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
or
call
the
meeting
has
everybody
had
an
opportunity
to
read
susan's
language
any
show
by
not
a
heads
or
just.
Let
me
know
if
anybody
is
not.
C
I
guess
it's
probably
better.
Okay
good
deal
I'd
like
to
formally
propose
that
this
susan's
recommendation
be
submitted
to
city
council.
So
yes,
I'll
put
that,
for
as
it
is
an
official
motion.
Do
I
have
a
second
second
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
that
said,
any
any
discussion
amongst
the
committee
with
regards
to
this
language
or
with
regards
direct
putting
for
the
recommendation.
C
All
right
so
moved,
so
that's
congratulations!
Everybody!
We
got
our
first
first
recommendation
in
so
certainly
certainly
appreciate
that
that's
trade
work
and
thank
you
again,
susan.
It's
very
well
written.
I
think
it
gets
the
point
across.
C
C
Yeah
absolutely
we
certainly
appreciate
that
so
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
you
know,
I
think,
is
just
more
of
an
informational
thing,
another
it's
a
communications
update,
but
but
I
think
that
can
be
expanded
to
the
communications
working
group.
The
funding
working
group
and
the
eis
working
group
have
all
been
been
organized,
and
I
know
those
meetings
are
getting
scheduled
to
certainly
appreciate
susan
cashion
and
laura
for,
for,
for
leading
those
working
groups
really
appreciate
y'all
and
everybody
on
them
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
So
we'll
have
you
know
continually
further
updates
on
on
those
fronts
as
well,
of
course,
very
important
topics,
and
so
next
agenda
item
moving
on.
Unless
anybody
has
any
other
comments,
questions
or
notes,
there
is
to
turn
it
to
mark
kalin
and
and
robert
summerfield
as
well,
for
his
presentation
with
regards
to
the
comp
plan.
E
Yes,
and
just
as
a
quick
precursor
to
that,
I
just
wanted
to
add:
I've
asked
robert
to
specifically
focus
strictly
on
the
peninsula
and
strictly
on
the
concept
of
a
perimeter
protection
plan.
So
this
would
be
again
another
piece
of
education,
but
I
thought
it
was
really
important,
because
city
council
is
considering
the
comprehensive
plan
and
within
the
comprehensive
plan
there
is
a
specific
discussion
about
the
peninsula
and
a
perimeter
protection
and
again
this
was
done
by
another
group
of
city
hire
consultants,
experts
who
looked
at
the
peninsula
and
what
its
needs
were.
E
So
I
wanted.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
had
this
before
you
moved
on
in
any
further
thoughts
about
recommendations.
So
for
those
of
you
that
haven't
met
our
new
planning
director,
robert
summerfield,
is
our
new
planning
director
comes
to
us
from
las
vegas
he's
jumped
right
in
the
middle
and
he's
been
gracious
enough
to
volunteer
his
time
today
to
go
over
this
for
us
and
robert
we'll
turn
it
over
you,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us.
G
Thank
you
mark,
thank
you,
chair,
hey,
good
and
and
and
the
rest
of
the
the
committee,
so
I'm
going
to
very
quickly
go
through
this.
If
there
are
time
for
any
questions
at
the
end
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
those.
Hopefully
everyone
can
see
the
screen
every
everyone-
okay,
perfect,
all
right,
so
just
real
quickly.
I
want
to
make
sure
everyone
is
aware
and
seeing
many
of
the
faces
on
this
call.
G
I
know
many
members
of
this
committee
have
been
very
involved
in
the
comp
plan,
update
and
drafting
throughout
this
process.
But
just
as
a
reminder,
this
process
is
began
well
over
a
year
ago,
worked
through
the
the
covid
period
and
we
are
in
what
we
would
consider
the
final
stretch,
which
is
the
finalization
of
the
plan
and
the
adoption
process.
In
fact,
planning
commission
has
recommended
this
plan
to
city
council.
G
As
mark
mentioned,
I'm
going
to
focus
mainly
on
the
the
peninsula,
but
this
is
the
comprehensive
plan
for
the
entire
city
of
charleston,
and
so
you
know
it
encompasses
some
foundational
findings
that
are
universal
throughout
the
city.
But
then
there
are
some
specific
nuances
for
each
area
of
the
city,
including
the
peninsula,
on
the
peninsula.
You
know
we
heard
very
specifically
that
there
is
an
interest
in
kind
of
again
preserving
that
history
of
the
city.
G
Obviously
charleston
grew
up
on
the
peninsula
and
is
expanded
in
in
more
recent
decades,
but
those
historic
buildings,
the
scenic
views
of
the
harbor-
are
very
important
and
in
particular
to
the
work
that
you
all
are
doing
on
your
recommendations.
G
G
Additionally,
we
heard
quite
a
bit
about
not
just
the
drainage
infrastructure
but
infrastructure
from
a
connectivity
standpoint
improving
streets
so
that
people
can
move
and
not
just
in
cars,
but
they
can
move
via
transit.
They
can
use
our
sidewalks
to
the
best
of
or
the
fullest
ability
for.
All
folks
of
all
different
levels
of
mobility.
G
So
if
you
are
using
assisted
mobility
devices,
if
you're,
you
know
fully
a
pedestrian
if
you're
a
parent
with
a
stroller
and
then
cyclists
as
well
as
we
begin
to
look
more
closely
at
mode
shift
and
providing
opportunities
for
people
to
access
our
city
in
in
different
ways
such
as
bicycling,
again,
maintaining
that
balance
between
quality
of
life
for
the
existing
residents
and
being
able
to
continue
to
accommodate
our
tourist-based
economy
in
the
downtown
area
and
then
providing
additional
services.
G
So
as
we're
increasing
or
kind
of
bringing
back
population
to
the
peninsula,
which
is
one
of
those
things
that
often
gets
missed.
The
peninsula
used
to
be
a
contain
quite
a
bit
more
population
than
it
does
now.
So
as
we're
looking
at
strategies
that
would
bring
back
some
of
that
population.
G
G
So
what
we
learned
so
one
of
the
things
for
for
those
of
you
who,
who
aren't
in
the
planning
world,
often
planning
addresses
development
land
use.
What's
in
inhibition,
which
you
see
here,
we
also
typically
will
address
infrastructure,
including
things
like
drainage
channels,
transportation
networks,
things
like
that
will
often
take
into
account
in
those
planting
exercises.
G
What's
listed
here
is
ground,
but
you
know
the
different
types
of
soil.
You
know
where
water
is
in
ecology,
but
what
we
done
very
uniquely
here,
that
you
don't
actually
see
in
a
lot
of
planning
documents
anywhere,
but
definitely
not
preceding
here-
was
this
intersection
of
land
use
and
water.
So
this
land
water
analysis
that
was
done
by
the
for
the
city
by
wagner
and
ball,
and
the
water
institute
of
the
gulf,
as
well
as
robinson
design,
engineers
and
and
scriblios
design.
G
That
is
very
unique,
and
that
leads
to
a
base
understanding
in
the
comp
plan
that,
as
we
move
forward
into
the
next
10
years,
we
need
to
think
very
very
carefully
about
where
development
is
occurring
and
where
it's
occurring
not
based
necessarily
on
where
the
existing
roadways
and
where
are
the
existing
population
centers
taking
that
into
account,
but
also
taking
into
account.
Where
is
the
water
going
to
be
over
the
course
of
the
next
10
and
20
years?
G
How
is
that
going
to
affect
the
ability
to
develop
and
continue
to
develop
in
the
future,
and
so
from
that
analysis
we
got
these
four
kind
of
distinctions.
If
you
would
on
the
different
characteristics
of
the
land,
we
start
with
the
high
grounds
pretty
self-explanatory.
What
that
means.
This
is
the
area
with
the
lowest
flood
risk.
This
is
the
area
where
you
can
have
good
storm
water
detention
and
could
have
potentially
the
greatest
watershed
benefit.
G
The
adapt
zone
is
those
areas
where
flooding
can
occur,
but
it's
infrequent
it's
areas
where
it's
not
currently
within
a
fema
flood
zone,
but
it's
acknowledged
that
storm
surge,
particularly
from
those
higher
level
storms,
is
possible
and
could
create
damage
in
the
compound
flood
risk
area.
This
is
the
area
where,
between
tidal
conditions,
storm
events
and
runoff
from
other
areas
of
the
community,
these
are
areas
where
flooding
from
all
of
those
different
aspects
is
is
possible
to
likely
and
then
finally,
you
have
the
tidal
flood
risk
zone.
These
are
the
lowest
lying
areas.
G
These
are
the
areas
that
we
expect
with
sea
level
rise
that
we're
going
to
see
the
marsh
migration
effect,
and
so
these
are
areas
that
even
absent
a
storm,
even
absent
precipitation,
as
tidal
shifts,
continue
to
happen.
We're
going
to
continue
to
see
flooding
in
these
areas
and
and
risk
in
those
zones.
G
Under
this
scenario,
many
of
those
areas
are
within
the
designated
areas
for
tidal
flood
risk
and
compound
flood
risk
zones,
so
we
need
to
have
very
deliberate
and
sometimes
maybe
even
hard
conversations
as
we
go
forward
about
what
the
development
future
in
those
areas
are.
As
you
can
see
on
this
map,
though,
the
other
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
on
the
peninsula
itself.
You
know
we
have
a
fair
degree
of,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
you
can
see
my
cursor.
G
You
know
we
have
a
fair
spine
of
either
some
high
ground
and
but
adapt
zone,
but
a
lot
of
the
peninsula,
as
you
can
see,
is
in
this
tidal
flood
or
compound
flood
designation,
and
so
we
have
to
be
able
to
address
that
as
we
move
forward
and
obviously
that's
a
big
chunk
of
what
this
committee
is
is
is
considering
and
taking
in
into
consideration.
G
So
from
those
zones.
The
planning
strategies
that
were
devised
and
that
have
been
talked
through
with
the
community
and
worked
out
are
that
there
are
areas
where
we
need
to
adapt.
There
are
areas
where
we
need
to
reserve.
G
I
think
those
are
important
because
again,
just
because
it's
high
ground
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
it
automatically
means
that
it's
grow.
There
are
going
to
be
areas
that
we
do
want
to
reserve.
Those
are
areas
where
retention
will
be
important
to
help
preserve
the
the
watersheds
and
and
downstream
effects.
There's
areas
again
where
there
is
high
ground,
though,
that
we
we
do
expect
to
still
be
able
to
accommodate
growth.
G
There
are
areas
where
we
can
adapt
and
address
some
of
the
impacts
of
the
flooding,
and
these
may
be
areas
where,
where
we
maybe
reduce
the
development
intensity,
and
so
we
can
adapt
to
to
maybe
lower
intensity
development
in
those
areas
that
can
be
built
in
such
a
way
that
it's
adaptive
to
the
flood
risk
and
then
finally-
and
I
think
what
may
be
most
important
for
this
conversation
and
specifically
for
the
peninsula-
is
looking
at
the
defend
options
in
the
peninsula.
G
We
have
an
extremely
built
up
existing
area,
and
so
what
can
we
do
in
this
area
to
address
the
fact
that
it's
it's
it's
established?
It
has
quite
a
bit
of
investment
already
and
we
know
we
need
to
defend
it.
G
So,
looking
a
little
deeper
into
this,
the
comp
plan
takes
the
peninsula
in
a
looks
at
it
kind
of
in
a
singular
fashion,
while
in
other
areas
of
the
city
we
we
talked
more
about
adjustments
that
can
be
made
to
the
zoning
profiles
and
the
development
strategies,
because
the
peninsula
is
pretty
much
built
up
and
is
looking
more
at
redevelopment
versus
new
or
greenfield
development.
G
The
plan
takes
the
assumption,
based
on
all
of
the
research
and
all
the
conversation
with
the
community,
that
the
peninsula
will
be
a
defend
strategy,
that
there
will
be
some
kind
of
barrier
solution
that,
whether
that's
a
wall,
whether
that's
other
elements,
in
fact
the
plan
identifies
or
or
addresses
the
fact
that
there
is
not
one
single
solution
that
will
provide
that
barrier
protection,
and
so
that's
a
very
important
to
note.
G
You
can
kind
of
see
it
here
in
the
bottom
in
red
that
it
will
be
a
layered
approach
and
it
will
not
necessarily
be
the
same
in
all
in
all
areas,
and
then
we
obviously
we
include
the
the
map
here.
That
is
part
of
the
work
that's
been
done
so
far
in
kind
of
addressing
how
might
the
different
ped
phases
be
outlined
in
a
wall
type
strategy?
G
I
want
to
be
clear
here.
One
of
the
things
that
the
plan
does
do
is
it
makes
recommendations
about
the
future.
It
uses
very
objective
and
in
this
case
this
plan
is
very
science-based.
G
There's
a
lot
of
data
that
went
into
the
development
of
this
plan
it
incorporated
and
has
incorporated
input
from
folks
for
more
than
a
year's
worth
of
community
outreach,
so
it's
developed
with
quite
a
bit
of
input
from
the
community
from
folks
all
across
the
spectrum
of
the
community,
and
it's
to
be
it's
intended
to
be
used
for
informing
daily
decisions
of
staff
across
all
disciplines
in
the
city.
G
So
it's
not
just
a
planning
document
for
the
planners
in
the
planning
department,
it's
for
the
folks
in
stormwater,
the
folks
in
transportation,
public
service
and
so
on.
What
it
does
not
do
on
its
face.
It
does
not
change
any
zoning,
so
the
adoption
of
this
plan
will
not
affect
anyone's
existing
zoning
rates.
G
It
does
not
change
any
of
the
stormwater
regulations,
it
does
not
affect
any
kind
of
taxation
and
it
does
not
interfere
with
or
supersede
any
adopted
document
or
plan
recommendations
that
may
exist
in
other
plans,
unless
it
very
specifically
says
so,
and
so
it's
very
important
to
know
that
this
is.
G
This
is
one
planned
document,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
other
documents
that
kind
of
feed
into
this
comprehensive
plan,
including
the
the
plan
for
fair
housing
and
other
and
other
things,
so,
very
specifically,
the
the
new
land
use
map
that
was
developed
based
on
all
of
this
work.
That
was
done.
G
It
looks
with
this
new
water
focus
and
this
water
lens
at
reserving
the
highest
intensity
land
uses
for
that
high
ground
category.
As
is
already
mentioned,
it
looks
at
doing
the
lowest
impact,
so
those
areas
that
are
designated
for
conservation
or
parks
where
you
know
you
can
have
a
park
and
when
it's
raining
no
one's
using
the
park.
So
if
it
floods,
it's
not,
it's
not
going
to
be
a
catastrophe
for
the
community,
so
reserving
those
those
types
of
activities
for
that
title,
flood
rust,
flood
risk
zone
again
caveat.
G
The
peninsula
was
kind
of
taken
out
of
that
category
because
the
peninsula
is
already
built
out
it
does.
This
is
not
a
greenfield
building
type
of
opportunity
and
then
working
to
mitigate
the
flood
risk
in
those
areas
between
the
lowest
intensity
land
use
categories
and
that
you
know
highest
intensity
high
ground.
What
can
we
do
in
that
middle
space
to
to
scale
different
solutions
for
different
areas
that
are
appropriate
for
those
mitigation
strategies?
G
G
Additionally,
based
on
current
context
and
development
patterns
and
what
we
heard
from
the
community
again,
we
are
looking
that
to
use
that
high
ground
or
that
that
highest
ground,
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
high
ground
as
as
defined
but
higher
ground.
G
We're
also
looking
to
see
that
highest
intensity
development
along
the
current
proposed
low
country,
rapid
transit
line,
we're
introducing
this
neighborhood
edge
designation
in
these
periphery
neighborhoods
again
connecting
these
residential
areas
and
some
of
the
more
multimodal
transportation
routes
and
then
looking
at
the
low
impact
preserve
designation
and
areas
where
that's
appropriate.
G
The
city
center
designation
replaces
some
old
designations
like
urban,
core
urban
center
and
neighborhood
center,
and
allows
for
a
wider
variety
of
urban
scale
development,
which
I
think
is
important
for
everybody
to
know,
but
specifically
on
the
peninsula.
We
do
make
some
adjustments
and
introduce
this
neighborhood
designation.
G
That
we
think
is
more
reflective
of
the
context
in
certain
areas,
and
you
see
that
as
a
shift,
particularly
in
the
lower
part
of
the
peninsula,
where,
under
previous
co
or
previous
plans,
it
was
called
urban
core
urban
center
and
now
we're
designating
those
as
neighborhoods.
That
doesn't
mean
that
they're
purely
residential
areas,
they
will
maintain
some
of
their
civic
and
commercial
aspects,
but
the
scale
of
those
is
more
neighborhood
level
versus
that
higher
intensity
city
center
type
development.
G
You
see
in
other
areas
and
then
finally,
the
plan,
including
in
the
peninsula
area,
begins
to
take
a
really
close
look
at
those
african-american
settlement
communities
and
how
are
those
identified
and
how
do
we
integrate
those
communities
into
future
planning,
including
planning
from
the
work
that
you
all
are
doing
on
the
flood,
the
flood
issues
and
in
the
wall,
because
those
all
have
ripple
effects
into
these
communities
that
have
previously
often
not
had
a
voice
not
been
recognized
and
in
in
many
cases,
have
been
somewhat
ignored
or
left
to
the
side.
G
Some
things
I
just
kind
of
went
through
this,
so
then
next
steps
I
want
to
make
sure
everybody
knows
that
we
are
having
a
public
hearing
at
city
council
on
july
20th.
It
will
be
the
first
meeting
for
the
the
plan,
but
it's
just
that
it's
first
reading,
it's
an
opportunity
for
the
city
council
during
the
public
hearing
process
to
hear
from
any
members
of
the
community
that
have
thoughts
or
comments
on
the
plan
is
currently
drafted
and
presented
to
council.
G
However,
the
council
has
requested
and
we
will
be
working
on
it-
a
second
workshop
that
will
be
a
joint
workshop
between
the
city
council
and
the
planning
commission.
That
will
happen
in
early
august.
Currently
we're
we're
looking
at
the
first
week
in
august.
G
We
think
that
will
be
and
then
later
either
at
the
august
meeting
or
the
september
meeting,
depending
on
the
outcome
of
that
workshop,
we
anticipate
that
the
the
plan
will
be
up
for
eligible
for
adoption
by
city
council
again,
depending
on
how
the
the
outcomes
of
that
workshop
go
the
next
thing.
Once
it's
adopted,
we
will
immediately
begin
in
fact,
we've
actually
kind
of
started
this
process
already
to
a
certain
degree
plan
implementation.
G
We
will
be
working
on
timelines
and
specific
implementation
strategies
for
how
the
recommendations
that
the
council
adopts
will
be
rolled
out.
We
will
be
working
with
the
parks
team
on
the
incorporation
of
the
new
master
plan
for
our
parks
and
recreation
program,
as
well
as
the
work
of
the
eirc
group,
integrating
more
closely
their
final
report
into
the
plan
we
based
on
their
draft.
G
We've
worked
quite
a
bit
of
that
in,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
that
that
work,
when
it's
done
in
its
final
form
will
also
be
integrated
in
the
plan.
Additionally,
as
a
just
as
a
matter
of
record,
because
the
the
nature
of
this
plan
is
so
very
different,
I
have
put
forth
some
budget
requests.
Two
budget
requests,
I
think,
are
important
for
this
group
to
be
aware
of.
G
We
will
be
asking
to
have
some
resources
to
be
able
to
do
a
updated
zoning
code
based
on
this
new
comp
plan
and
the
strategy
again,
that's
very
different
and
look
at
a
more
elevation-based
zoning
profile
for
the
city
and
then,
for
this
part,
the
downtown
plan
is,
you
know,
more
than
20
years
old,
well,
more
than
20
years
old,
it
contemplated
a
future
for
downtown.
G
G
Efforts
that
you
know
based
on
the
the
motion
that
was
just
made
a
moment
ago
or
shortly
before
I
began,
so
it
will
be
a
closely
tied
effort
with
a
new
downtown
plan
and
new
development
strategy
specific
to
the
peninsula
and
downtown
with
again
using
water
as
that
kind
of
central
focus
in
a
much
more
deeper
dive
than
what
you
can
do
at
the
comp
plan
level
and
then.
Finally,
this
is
not
meant
to
be
a
plan
that
sits
on
a
shelf
that
maybe
gets
taken
off
the
shelf
every
once
in
a
while.
G
This
will
be
a
very
dynamic
and,
as
mentioned
earlier
used
daily,
so
we
will
be
doing
tracking
this
back.
We
want
to
be
very
transparent
to
the
community,
so
we
will
have
a
website.
That'll
have
continue
to
use
that
charleston
city
plan
website
and
provide
dashboards,
so
the
community
can
see
the
progress
on
implementing
the
plan.
G
Sorry
about
that
and
then
finally,
we'll
do
regular
reports
to
planning
commission
and
city
council
so
that
we
can
publicly
make
clear
the
progress
of
the
plan
and
check
in
and
see
if
there
are
areas
where
something
has
shifted
and
we
need
to
address
that
and
make
updates
to
the
plan
is
appropriate.
So,
mr
chairman
mark,
hopefully
I
did
that
quick
enough,
so
that
you
all
can
do
your
next
thing.
I
do
see
there
are
a
couple
hands
up.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
robert
appreciate
the
presentation
and
welcome
to
city
charleston,
that's
very
exciting
and
great
to
have
you.
I
see
bob.
You
have
your
hand
up.
Please
please,
fire
away.
H
Well,
first
off
robert,
very
impressive,
I
mean
great
piece
of
work
which
leads
to
the
question
I
mean
recognizing
that
you
know
everybody
wants
to
be
in
charleston,
there's
a
real
tension
that
exists
with
developers
and
development
and
so
sort
of
the
realities
of
what
we're
talking
about
and
that
are
that
relates
to
the
vulnerabilities
of
the
city.
H
Can
you
talk
some
more
about
what
the
enforcement
mechanisms
are?
I
mean
I
heard
the
plan
is
a
set
of
recommendations
and
suggestions,
but
one
scenario:
a
development
proposal.
Is
it
possible
that
a
development
proposal
would
be
rejected
because
it
doesn't
comply
with
the
the
recommendations
or
suggestions
of
this
great
piece
of
work?
What
are
the
enforcement
mechanisms
thanks.
G
So
so
bob
that's
a
great
question,
and
that
is
that
it
will
be
a
struggle,
so
council
will
adopt
this
well,
assuming
council
adopts
this
plan
because
I
can't
speak
for
council,
but
assuming
council
adopts
this
plan
say
at
the
one
of
their
september
meetings.
We
will
have
this
period
where
we
will
have
zoning
rights
that
exist
that
may
propagate
development.
That
is
contrary
to
the
recommendations
of
the
plan.
G
Those
are
things
that
will
be
an
issue
where
staff
may
make
recommendations
for
mitigation
within
those
development
proposals
based
on
the
comp
plan,
but
that
will
have
to
be
balanced
by
planning
commission
and
our
boards
and
city
council
by
the
fact
that
there
are
there
are
zoning
rights
that
that
that
live.
You
know
on
those
properties.
So
until
such
time
as
we
can
update
to
your
point
about
the
enforcement
component,
the
way
we
implement
this
comprehensive
plan
is
an
update
to
our
zoning
code.
G
That
is,
the
implementation.
The
primary
implementation
method
for
these
land
use
recommendations.
That
is
where
the
rubber
meets
the
road.
If
you
would
on
this
at
a
certain
level,
this
is
still
very
high
level
and
in
some
somewhat
of
a
thought
exercise
the
way
you
make
that
thought
exercise
real
is
in
getting
to
those
zoning
those
zoning
code
updates.
But
these
recommendations
can
inform
the
decision
making
of
our
planning
commissioners
and
our
other
board
officers,
and
they
can
take
that
into
account
when
looking
at
development
proposals
and
any
recommended
mitigation
strategies
within
those.
G
But
they
do
have
to
be
sensitive
to
those
existing
zoning
rules
and
what
those
zoning
rules
allow
a
developer
to
ask
for.
H
C
A
great
question
bob
and
thank
you
again,
robert
for
all
the
information
material
dennis
sorry,
I
didn't
mean
to
jump
in
there
go.
B
Just
a
question
robert
welcome
here
and
the
charleston
medical
district,
which
is
a
group-
that's
worked
together
a
long
time,
but
since
around
2015-16
to
work
on
issues
of
flooding
and
other
things
employs
around
25
or
so
thousand
people
has
signage.
That
calls
it
that
I'm
just
wondering
you
may,
I
may
not
have
seen
it,
but
on
some
of
your
graphics,
do
you
also
recognize
the
medical
district
as
one
of
your
areas
in
your
report.
G
We
absolutely
do
so
the
medical
area,
so
if
you
can
see
here,
let's
see
if
I
can
so,
if
you
can
see
here,
we
actually
so
one
of
the
changes
that
we
make
in
this
plan
is
we
identify
the
medical
district
as
a
campus.
That's
the
way
it's
sort
of
envisioned
is
a
connected
campus,
where
you
can
achieve
various
medical
needs
throughout
that
space,
and
so
the
plan
actually
upgrades
this
area
to
to
this
campus
designation,
which
ascribes
it
some
a
different
specific
recommendations
for
achieving
the
goals
of
the
medical
district.
G
Additionally,
that'll
be
one
of
those
things
that
will
be
a
focus
area
in
a
new
downtown
plan.
Is
the
connectivity
of
the
medical
district
to
the
other
services
of
both
employment
and
service
elements
of
downtown
it?
It
maintains
a
specific
focus
area
for
the
city,
particularly
with
the
connectivity
to
the
low
country
rapid
transit,
which
will
you
know
kind
of
do
its
circle
back.
If
you
would
right
there
at
the
medical
district
and
some
other
work
that
we're
doing
that's
very
specific
to
the
medical
program
in
that
area.
C
Thank
you
all
very
much
any
any
additional
questions
for
for
robert
as
it
relates
to
his
report.
C
Not
seeing
any
other
questions
robert,
I
greatly
appreciate
it
and
look
forward
to
continuing
to
to
see
as
it
progresses
and,
and
also
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
give
the
report
to
our
committee
and
in
the
inclusion
of
the
water
management
and
and
the
barrier
system
in
in
your
in
in
your
report.
Analysis.
So
thank
you
very
much.
G
No
problem,
if
anyone
does
need
to
reach
out
to
me,
you
know
my
information's
online
and
I'll
be
happy
to
connect
with
anybody
if
they
have
any
additional
questions.
C
Yeah
and
to
put
in
a
plug
for
it
charlestoncityplan.com,
I
don't
know
if
y'all
saw
it
on
the
on
the
presentation,
but
there's
a
ton
of
great
data
and
information
regarding
process
and
and
content.
C
So
moving
on
to
our
our
last
item,
which
is
starting
commit
committee
discussion
on
recommendations
for
the
perimeter
protection
system-
so
you
know
thought
here
is
again
getting
out
of
the
or
you're
moving
past
the
kind
of
education
to
get
everybody
on
the
on
the
same
page
as
far
as
informational
and
and
getting
into
going
to
specific
recommendations,
a
few
that
have
been
brought
up
in
the
past
just
to
begin
the
discussion,
you
know
regarding
specific
alignment,
so
where
would
we
want
specific
alignment
of
the
perimeter
wall?
C
Another
example
is,
you
know,
visual
impact
and
mitigation,
and
so
how
could
the
wall
visually
impact
the
city?
And
how
can
we
mitigate
that
historic
and
cultural
mitigation?
Obviously
a
very
relevant
and
important
important
topic
here:
amenities,
recreation
is
another
one
and,
and
then
natural
and
nature-based
solutions
is
another
topic
like
to
you
know
cover.
C
Are
there
any
other
topics,
and
this
is
a
meant
to
be
an
open
discussion
in
addition
to
ones
I've
mentioned
or
any
specifics
on
the
ones
I've
mentioned
that
any
committee
members
would
like
to
go
through.
D
I
I'd
like
to
add
one
to
the
list.
I
don't
think
you
captured
it,
but
you
can
correct
me
if
I
missed
it
and
again,
I'm
going
to
make
a
plug
for
having
process
be
part
of
this
conversation.
So
you've
already
heard
me
on
that,
but
I
I
would
also
like
to
discuss
advancing
a
community-led
resilience
planning
process
for
the
rose
mount
community.
D
C
Yeah,
thank
you
laura.
I
have
a
really
long
conversation
with
herbert
yesterday.
We
spoke
for
about
an
hour,
and
so
you
know
mark
and
I
are
going
to
go
and
and
actually
dr
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up.
I
was
hoping
her
will
be
on
today,
as
it
specifically
relates
to
rosemont,
but
we're
circling
the
the
23rd
to
go
on
a
a
walking
tour
with
herbert
and
hopefully
the
corps
can
make
it,
and
if
anybody
here
can
make
it,
it's
still
still
getting
pinned
down
on
specifics,
but
circling
the
23rd.
C
C
Well,
I
think
it
falls,
and
that
was
you
know.
I
saw
my
maybe
some
of
my
email
with
regards
to
the
eis
working
group
last
night,
I
that
was
why
I
moved
herbert
into
that
email
chain,
as
it
specifically
relates
to
that
working
group.
So
I
think
you
know
was
based
on
that
conversation
and
so
that
I
had
with
them.
So
I
I,
if
you
could
make
it
on
the
23rd,
I
think
it'd
be
it'd,
be
helpful
and
we
could
even
call
it
a
working
group
session.
D
Okay,
that's
helpful
clarity.
When
I
saw
that
email
with
him
looked
in,
I
thought
you
were
doing
that
because
he's
a
he
was
a
member
of
that
committee.
So
I
was
really
confused
about
the
reas
kalyn.
Maybe
you
and
I
should
connect
just
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
on
these
kind
of
details-
sure
an
eis
working
group
we're
trying
to
schedule.
So
if
you
are
available
in
the
23rd
we'll
try
to
suss
out,
if
that's
a
an
outing
that
we
can
all
make
together.
C
Yeah
and
obviously
that
happened-
you
know-
conversation
happened
at
like
5
30
last
night,
and
so
it's
not
a
ton
of
time
but
happy
we're
talking
through
it.
I
think
I
mean
we
can
do
a
separate
meeting
on
that.
We
could
probably
include
that
again
with
the
help
of
the
working
group
in
the
alignment.
C
D
Mean
it's
related
to
alignment,
but
it's
diff.
It's
also
different.
I
mean
it's
a
completely
different
parallel
process,
for
you
know
just
like
in
the
presentation
from
sherwood
design
engineers
about
how
to
get
the
community
engaged
and
start
a
resilience
planning
process
that
is
focused
on
non-structural
measures.
So
I
I
don't
know
that
it's
from.
I
don't
know
that
I
would
tuck
it
under
alignment,
but
it's
it's
related.
C
H
Yeah
thanks
thanks
vega
and
laura
you're
opening
comments
spot-on.
H
You
expressed
a
lot
of
the
thoughts
I
had
and
you
did
it
in
a
much
more
civil
manner
than
I
think
I
could
have
so
thanks
for
that.
That
was
very
well
well
expressed,
and
this
is
maybe
a
little
bit
provocative,
but
it
sort
of
knits
together
a
couple
of
thrusts
from
prior
discussions.
H
We've
got
a
lot
riding
on
this
three
by
three.
If
it
doesn't
work,
we're
screwed,
I
mean
we'll
be
increasingly
vulnerable
from
a
delay
dollars
a
damage
perspective.
H
H
You
know
the
the
army
corps
of
engineers
congress.
I
mean
this.
H
We
need
a
campaign
manager
if
we're
going
to
take
this
seriously
and
not
be
made
more
vulnerable,
as
opposed
to
less
vulnerable,
by
attaching
our
cart
to
this
horse,
because
if
the
horse
comes
up
lame,
we're
screwed
so
a
long
prologue,
but
I
think
this
group
to
be
substantive
needs
to
recognize
that
political
reality
and
start
thinking
very
soberly
very
thoroughly
about
how
we
enlist
the
governance
on
this
thing,
because,
right
now
I
mean
I've
had
a
conversation
with
with
mike
mike
seekings.
H
If
we
want
our
product
to
be
substantive
and
relevant
and
persuasive
and
influential,
I
think
we
have
to
talk
about
the
risk
assessment
of
the
project
and
do
we
have
the
votes
if
we
don't
have
the
votes?
What's
the
process?
What's
the
plan
to
get
the
votes
thanks.
C
H
Well,
I
think
it
probably
falls
under
the
purview
of
the
communications
group,
but
with
a
much
more
precise
definition
and
remit
to
what
one
of
the
deliverables
needs
to
be,
and
you
know
you
know
weak
minds
like
my
own
would
suggest
hey
you
know.
Do
we
need
a
referendum
to
gauge?
How
much
are
we
behind
the
eight
ball
or
do
we
need
a
do?
H
We
need
some
metrics
to
understand
the
viability
of
this
and,
if
there's
a
gap
in
terms
of
endorsement
and
awareness
leading
to
endorsement,
we
need
to
identify
that
delta,
like
toot
suite
for
us
to
help
address
it,
because
otherwise
we
may
put
in
a
lot
of
good
work
and
it's
you
know
doa,
because
we
don't
have
the
votes,
that's
the
pragmatic
reality.
H
H
C
E
I'm
gonna
yield
to
councilmember
waring
and
then
I'll
come
back
and
and
answer
any
questions
beyond
what
what
he
provides.
I
Well,
thanks
mark
and
hello,
everybody
bob
is
right
with
matthew.
Probably
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
to
beer,
because
when
you
look
at
the
large
infrastructure
projects
that
have
been
accomplished
in
the
low
country,
it's
been
a
broad
reach
and
if
you
say
what
are
you
talking
about,
I
can
remember
yeah.
I
go
back
more
than
15
years.
20
years
ago
we
had
77
schools
in
charleston
county
and
probably
76
of
them
were
dilapidated
and
we
had
a
no
new
tax
crowd
and
we
had
to
build
a
momentum
to
replace
the
infrastructure.
I
I
would
say,
over
the
last
15
years,
we've
probably
spent
somewhere
around
1.3
1.4
billion
dollars,
replacing
our
physical
plant
when
it
came
to
school
schools
and
if
you
don't
believe
it
just
ride
by
your
neighborhood
school
and
take
a
look
at
it,
but
that
built
a
momentum.
It
was
a
regional
approach
to
that
and
what
I
mean
regional,
you
had
not
only
city
of
charleston
city,
north
johnston
mount
pleasant,
the
county,
all
kind
of
pushing
in
the
same
direction.
I
You
say:
well,
kid
has
schools
and
kids
that's
different
when
it
came
to.
I
Replacing
the
what
we
now
know
is
the
ravenel
bridge,
but
it's
the
cooper
river
bridge.
It
was
a
600
million
dollar
project
and
the
effort
was,
if
we
put
it
on
property
taxes,
only
a
portion
of
population
would
bear
the
brunt
of
something
virtually
everybody
would
use.
A
I
Being
built
to
nowhere
roads
to
nowhere
all
those
improvements
came
in
and
again
a
funding
formula
was
put
in
place.
Sunday's
people
had
a
big
thing
about
mass
transit
or
rapid
bus
transit
system.
That
came
with
the
second
half
cent
sales
tax
referendum,
which
is
which
will
accumulate
2.4
billion
for
transportation
in
this
area.
I
think
some
green
space
dollars
bob
what
you're
talking
about
needs
to
be
applied,
in
my
opinion,
to
the
city
of
charleston's,
knee
and
and
somehow-
and
I
don't
mind
this-
isn't
top
secret.
I
That's
best
for
drainage
flooding
for
this
for
this
region,
and
when
I
mean
this
region,
part
of
the
divergence,
that's
creating
politically
there's
so
much
focus
on
the
peninsula
and
believe
me,
I
understand
the
need
for
the
calendar
I
I
do,
but
if
you're
going
to
raise
a
match
of
about
600
million
dollars,
we
need
to
have
an
approach
that
brings
in
solutions
not
only
for
the
peninsula
but
west
of
the
peninsula.
What
I
mean
west
of
valencia-
I
mean
west
ashley,
james
allen
and
john
john
okay.
I
I
think
we're
going
to
go
through
a
lot
of
good
effort
here
and
you're
not
going
to
come
up
with
the
money
to
be
able
to
do
it
to
come
up
with
the
match,
and
you
say
our
our
budget
right
now.
The
city's
budget
is
about
a
200
and
I
don't
know
20
million
dollars
or
somebody
we're
talking
in
excess
of
600
million
being
the
match
without
one
change
on
it,
and
I
would
doubt
that
any
of
that's
going
to
be
done
without
a
change
on
it.
So
I
believe
the
momentum
is
there.
I
You
know,
after
the
dutch
dialogue,
if
there's
one
thing
that
rolled
out
there,
it
was
very
inclusive,
very
well
done
mark
and
his
team
did
a
great
job,
bringing
professionalism
to
a
topic
that
normally
the
squeaky
wheel
gets
the
oil,
in
other
words
the
community,
that
we
have
limited
resources.
I
So
the
community
cries
out
the
largest
and
tends
to
get
the
fixes
in
their
community,
and
we
tried
that
in
the
school
district
we
would
put
one
community
against
the
other,
my
pleasant
against
the
peninsula
on
the
peninsula
against
west
ashley
one
until
we
went
out
and
got
a
broad
funding
formula
in
place
again
again,
I'm
repeating,
but
they
the
the
school
bond
referendums
coming
through,
that
we
got
money
that
fixed
up
schools,
north
charleston,
mount
pleasant,
west,
ashley,
james
island,
john's
island,
et
cetera,
and
if
you
say
well,
where's
the
city
approach
today,
we
don't
have
it
so,
when
this
report
comes
forth
to
planning
zoning
and
eventually
bubbles
up
to
city
council,
there
are
13
of
us,
including
the
mayor
that
has
to
vote
on
this
and
the
answer's
going
to
be
well
where's,
the
money
and
right
now
we
have
not.
I
We
meaning
the
mayor
and
the
12
council
people
which
I'm
one
we
have
not
I'd,
share
the
public
works.
For
me,
we
have
not
had
one
five-minute
conversation
as
a
group
on
how
we're
going
to
fund
this
right
and
that's
wrong
for
this
committee
to
get
and
that's
why
you
haven't
seen
I've.
I
think
I've
missed
one
meeting.
I
I
I
don't
know
whether
the
town
of
mount
pleasant
is
poking
over
our
shoulders,
but
I
I
hope
they
are
especially
in
the
old
town
area,
but
with
that
said,
unless,
unless
we
get
to
working
on
a
funded
formula,
we're
going
to
have
that
same
parochial
differences
where
you're
going
to
have
wes
ashley
saying
what
are
you
doing
for
us
and
the
answer
is
nothing
and
then
all
the
money
goes
down
to
the
potential
all
over
again,
and
I
got
to
tell
you
that
does
not
work
all
that
means.
I
Is
you
get
a
bunch
of
allies
in
a
circle?
You
pull
out
guns
and
start
shooting.
All
we
do
is
shoot
one
another,
so
where's
the
answer
going
to
come
from
to
fund
this.
I
think
that
needs
to
be
you
all
are
doing
the
work
and
coming
up
with
great
presentations,
but
in
the
past,
and
I
think
mike
he's
not,
I
don't
think
he's
on
the
call
today,
mike
seekins
has
said
we
got
a
bunch
of
reports.
I
That's
been
studied,
that's
sitting
on
the
shelf,
catching
dust
he's
right.
We
know
some
of
the
things
for
calhoun
west,
which
is
a
major
drainage
project
that
here
in
the
full.
We
don't
have
five
dollars
to
my
knowledge
to
put
towards
it
and
the
shame
of
it
all
is
right.
Now
we're
coming
into
our
infrastructure
bill
with
the
congress.
I
I
believe
one
way
or
the
other
is
going
to
come
through
and
pass
something
now
do
we
have
our
plan
to
see
thank
goodness,
hands
out,
here's
our
plan
that
we
can
put
forth
to
washington
and
ask
congressman
cliven
and
ask
senator
scott
and
congress,
lady
nancy
mace
and
our
team
to
go
and
fight
because
one
thing
about
when
it
comes
to
infrastructure
and
in
a
region,
political
differences
on
the
local
area
tend
to
be
put
aside
and
if
you
say
where's
your
proof
on
that
I'll
go
back
to
the
ravenel
bridge.
I
I
think
the
only
person
in
our
congressional
and
senate
delegation
that
voted
against
that
and
he's
a
friend
of
mine
was
mark
sanford.
Everybody
else
voted
for
it
in
washington
and
you
know
we
got
the
75
dollars
on
that
and
again
half
cent
sales
tax
came
through
with
the
match
so
mike.
My
point
is
I
I
appreciate
the
time
that
you've
given
me,
but
we
have
a
funding
formula
and
a
methodology
that
has
brought
the
city
and
the
region
together.
Okay,
we
are
not
engaging
that
and
I
say
shame
on
that.
I
Shame
on
me.
Shame
on
on
on
the
political
people
that
you
have
elected
to
put
in
a
position
on
that,
because
this
isn't
something
and
you're
getting
ready
to
see
something
right
now,
that's
my
knowledge
is
supposed
to
be
on
the
agenda.
I
On
the
next
meeting,
where
I
don't
get
my
package
until
tomorrow,
but
if
it
is,
I
I
saw
at
the
committee
meeting
yesterday
on
recreation,
we're
asking
for
117
million
for
parks
and
recreation
and
update
and
all
of
that
and.
G
I
I
love
parts,
I'm
an
outdoor
person,
my
wife
and
I
had
breakfast
this
morning,
7
30
on
our
back
porch,
so
we
can
listen
to
the
the
crickets
and
the
birds
and
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff.
I
love
that.
Okay,
I
love
eating
outside
much
more
than
eating
incident.
I
So
when
kovac
came
along
and
outside
dining
became
more
popular,
just
hey,
I
was
a
fan
already.
That
said,
I
would
have
thought
the
first.
When
we
get
into
the
hundreds
million
dollar
request
would
have
been
for
some
student
drain.
In
my
mind,
the
priority
is
drainage,
affordable
housing
and
everything
flows
down
from
there,
and
something
is
leapfrogging.
This
effort
right
here.
It's
a
bad
idea
in
my
opinion
to
come
up
with,
and
I
know
believe
me.
I
I
know
recreation
is
a
very,
very
popular,
but
if
we're
going
to
raise
taxes,
when
we
ask
people
what
would
you
like
and
they
came
up
with
this
list
of
things
and
everybody
said
yeah,
we
like
these
parks
and
we
want
this
and
we
want
that
nobody's
saying
how
you're
going
to
pay
for
it
and
the
only
way
we
can
pay
for
that
is
raise
taxes
and.
I
This
should
not
be
sitting
on
the
shelf
afterwards.
All
this
work,
that's
being
done
all
the
professionalism,
and
I
certainly
wish
mark
well,
but
I
gotta
tell
you
man,
we're
gonna,
miss
him.
He
brought
professionalism
to
a
topic
that
was
in
the
closet
prior
to
him,
coming
on
board
with
the
city.
So
when
he
speaks
it's
like
yeah
fighting,
only
young
people
won't
remember
that,
but
he
had
fighting
just
be
a
commercial
where,
when
ef
hutton
spoke,
everybody
froze.
I
Everybody
would
listen,
but
that
said
bob,
I
can't
tell
you
you,
you
didn't
almost
hit
the
bull's-eye,
you
have
hit
the
bullseye
and
I
would
say
today
this
is
just
one
person
speaking.
I
would
be
happy
to
be
wrong
if
you
don't
have
a
funding
formula
in
place,
you're
not
going
to
get
the
money
to
do
it.
We
had
a
surplus
in
in
the
state
when
they
voted
for
the
state
budget.
Last
month,
the
city
of
charleston
didn't
ask
for
five
dollars
of
that
circle.
I
Out
of
the
american
recovery
act
is
2.5
billion
dollars
in
in
colombia
right
now,
and
between
august
and
september
they're,
going
to
divvy
that
money
up
they're
going
to
divide
that
money
up
the
governor
has
said
it's
a
one-time
opportunity
and
it
could
basically
be
a
game
changer
for
the
state
of
south
carolina.
You
mean
to
tell
me
this
three
plus
three
project
isn't
deserving
of
getting
some
of
that
2.5
billion
dollars.
That's
unallocated
right
now.
Do
we
have
a
request
in
for
that?
The
answer
is
unequivocally
known
and
that's
shame
on
us.
I
Can
I
put
that
request
in
as
one
council
member?
I
cannot
okay,
I
brought
that
up.
I
I
think
the
last
meeting
or
whatever,
and
I
was
told
that
we
got
we
have
lobbyists,
but
we
you
shouldn't,
wait
on
the
lobbyists
to
come
to
say
to
you
just
to
say
what
to
what
to
lobby,
for
it
should
be
us
going
to
the
lobbyists
saying
these
are
the
projects
that
we
would
like
to
get
funding
out
of
this
bucket
of
money,
go
get
it
put
the
strat,
go
in
columbia
and
shake
hands
and
go
to
lunch
and
talk
to
the
friends
and
talk
to
them.
I
Senator
leatherman
and
speak
speaker,
lucas
speaker,
the
house
and
chairman
of
ways
and
means
speak
to
those
people
get
our
requests
in
front
for
consideration.
But
you
know
I've
never
won
the
lottery
and
I'm
not
going
to
win
the
line.
I've
never
played
a
lot,
but
we're
not
going
to
get
any
of
that
2.5
billion
right
now
in
colombia.
I
If
we
certainly
don't
have
a
palatable
proposal-
and
if
this
isn't
one
I'd
like
to
know
what
it
is,
so
you
know
that
took
more
than
my
time,
but
these
seeds
that
I've
thrown
out
there
we
need
to.
I
We
me
as
a
male
and
council,
need
to
slam
on
bricks
and
quit
doing
things
that
work
well
in
the
campaign,
because
you
know
after
you
get
elected
it's
time
to
govern,
and-
and
this
is
a
huge
governance
issue
right
here-
this
drainage
and
storm
water
issues
in
the
paper
this
morning,
my
pleasure
is
increasing
their
stormwater
fee
by
about
50
percent.
It's
a
gradual
increase.
I
I
They
still
want
us
to
go
out
there
and
clean
up
the
drains
and
you
know,
keep
the
pipes
working
and
and
flowing
in
the
direction
away
from
their
property.
North
charleston
mount
pleasant.
I'm
sure
there
are
other
municipalities,
they
placed
a
stormwater
fee
on
the
property
tax
bill.
So
when
you
pay
your
property
taxes,
we
don't
get.
I
I
We
cannot
be
discombobulated
when
it
comes
to
the
fees
that
we
collect
to
implement
the
fixes
to
pay
for
the
drainage
solutions
that
go
in
place.
So
I
guess
I
appeal
to
this
committee
because
this
committee
has
influenced
if
there's
one
thing
on
the
other
side
of
this
meeting
bob
and
everybody
on
this
call
and.
I
Please
beg
us
to
get
a
funding
formula,
get
a
strategy,
get
a
request
in
out
of
that
2.5
billion
in
colombia.
That's
going
to
be
divided
up,
get
get
a
plan
in
place
such
that.
If
the
infrastructure
bill
is
passed
in
washington,
we're
going
to
be
right
there
not
going
to
get
our
strategy
in
place.
We
should
be
talking
about
those
strategies
with
our
washington
representatives
now.
I
I
So
I
wish
that
our
effort
to
put
the
funding
formula
in
place
was
coordinated
in
a
way
such
that
this
committee,
his
y'all,
doing,
I
should
say
we
I'm
on
the
committee,
but
I
try
not
to
interrupt
because
I
love
hearing
a
different
input
here,
but
we
need
a
funding
formula
and
we
need
your
help.
So
thanks
a
lot
mark,
I
took
some
of
your
time
and
everybody
else's,
but
I
appreciate
the
time
you
all
have.
C
Council
member,
no
thank
you
for
saying
that,
and
I
know
there's
no
more
questions
talking
to
me
to
jump
in,
but
I
mean
I
I
noticed
and
bob.
This
is
a
make
a
note
for
you
as
well.
I
mean
I,
I
would
love
to
have
you
on
the
funding
working
group.
You
know
and
bob
you
know
I
noticed
you're
on
the
communications
working
group
would
love
to
have
you
on
that.
C
You
know
this
is
this
is
stuff
where
you
know
we
get
in
these
meetings
and
it's
you
know
it's
great
to
talk
about,
but
I
think
everybody's
made
this
point.
So
far,
we've
brought
up
a
lot
of
questions.
I
think
it's
all
part
of
the
education
process
and
something
that
we've
had
to
get
through
right
and
make
sure
we're
all
informed
understand
everything
we
have
so
many
individual
skill
sets
that
now
that
we're
kind
of
shifting
out
of
this
education
and
into
production
and
content,
you
know
we
need
counselor.
C
I
mean
that's
why
this
and
folks,
like
everybody
on
the
committee,
I
mean
that's
why
this
committee
is
formed
in
the
first
place
and
the
reason
everybody
is
is
on
here
is
because
of
your
individual
skill
set.
So
you
know,
questions
are,
are
great
and
something
that
we
had
to
get
through
and
now
I
think,
we're
all
at
a
knowledge
base
where
we
can
press
forward
with
action,
and
so
so
I'd
encourage
both
of
y'all
to
join
those
working
groups
that
that
you
feel
strongly
about,
and
that
goes
for
everybody
on
the
committee.
C
I
hope
I
hope
to
see
you
all
by
hope
to
see
on
the
communications
working
group
and
councilmember
wearing.
I
would
love
to
see
on
the
on
the
funding
working
group
as
well,
because
you.
B
C
A
better
mechanically,
a
better
knowledge
and
skill
set
on
that
front
than
than
with
regard
to
public
finance,
specifically
regarding
the
city
than
I
think
anybody
on
the
on
the
committee.
So
I
think
we
have
these
wonderful
skill
sets.
You
know,
let's,
let's
use
them.
I
wish
lawrence
green
was
on
as
well.
You
know
he
has
a
background
in
grant.
Writing
that.
I
think
also
would
be
great
to
bear
so
I'll.
B
C
It's
great
to
ask
these
questions
and
I
think
we
can
form
an
action
plan
to
help
help
help
implement
the
answers.
But
sorry
I
want
to
jump
in
real,
quick
and
make
that
point.
I
know
there's
a
number
of
different
comments
and
questions,
but
councilman
really
appreciate
all
the
input
and
information.
It's
hugely
helpful
in
bob,
as
always,
certainly
appreciate
your
thoughts
and
input
and
efforts
on
every
front
as
well,
but
with
that
said
I'll
I'll
get
back
to
mark
go
for
it.
Let's
see
your
hand,
yeah.
E
E
All
of
what
was
just
said
is
is
absolutely
spot
on.
In
terms
of
you
know,
financing
I
will
say
from
a
process
standpoint,
one
of
the
things
that
we
I
say
we
staff
have
been
facing
with
this
project.
All
along
is:
we
need
to
get
a
endorsed
product,
and
today
there
has
been
a
lot
of
conversation
around
the
city
about
whether
this
is
the
right
product
or
not.
So
we
we
started
with
you
know,
do
you
need
this?
E
So
remember
we,
the
first
meeting
we
said:
does
the
city
need
a
perimeter
protection
plan?
Does
it
need
some
type
of
perimeter
protection?
So
we've
tried
to
bring
the
experts
in
so
that
you
all
can
make
your
decision
on
that?
The
second
thing
is:
is
this:
is
this
plan
that
the
army
corps
is
putting
forth?
Is
this
a
plan
that
you
all
can
support
and
if
so,
then
that
argue,
if
that
goes
to
city
council,
now,
city
council,
understands
that
this
group
has
looked
at
this
and
said
this
is
something
we
could
support.
E
The
draft
plan
will
be
released
on
september
10th.
I
think
what
you
all
should
be
hopeful,
for.
I
am
hopeful
that
you
will
see
that
the
cost
has
come
down.
I
will
then
say
to
you.
You
know
the
plan
itself
is
not
finalized
until
next
year,
in
like
july
of
2022
august
of
2022,
but
we'll
pretty
much
know
what
the
plan
looks
like
later
this
summer.
E
E
I'm
hearing
that
there
are
many
concerns
about
this
plan
once
we
can
get
behind
this
plan
that
we
can
take
something
to
put
in
front
of
people
and
say
this
is
something
we
are
supporting
now.
We
can
really
begin
to
to
have
the
conversations
about
supporting
it.
Let
me
just
offer
one
example,
and
this
is
something
that
I
think
we
should
be
proud
of.
In
charleston
yesterday
we
had
a
call
on
a
no-cashionism
here
on
the
section
106,
which
is
preserving
the
historic
district
of
charleston.
E
There
was,
I
can't
remember
the
number
of
people
on,
but
just
about
every
federal
agency
that
you
could
think
of
the
state
was
on
as
well
as
a
number
of
advocacy
groups.
There
were
134
edits,
134
comments
to
the
programmatic
agreement,
which
defines
that
process.
E
The
the
woman
who
runs
it
for
the
army
corps
of
engineers
says
she's,
never
seen
as
many
comments
on
any
programmatic
agreement.
These
are
pretty
much
standard
forms.
They
accepted
almost
all
of
them
into
the
programmatic
agreement
and
that
will
be
coming
out
for
they'll
be
putting
that
out
for
public
review
very
quickly
here.
So
everybody
gets
to
see
it
with
the
edits.
My
point
in
saying
all
that
is,
there
is
a
lot
of
community
engagement
going
on
in
a
lot
of
different
ways.
E
The
sooner
this
group
can
get
to
a
point
where
they
can
answer
those
questions.
Do
we
need
one?
Is
this
a
plan
that
we
can
make
work?
If
not?
These
are
the
things
we
think
we
can
begin
to
really
begin
to
advocate
strongly
for
this
plan
from
a
from
a
money
side
it's
hard
to.
I
would,
I
would
think,
for
even
for
staff
to
go
to
city
council
without
having
a
strong
support
from
a
community
group
like
this
to
say
this
is
something
that
the
advocacy
group
has
supported.
E
So
that's
the
reason
I
teed
it
up
that
way,
because
I
know
this
is
going
to
be
a
multi-year
effort
to
find
the
funding
to
support
this.
But
anyway,
if
it
adds
to
the
process
discussion,
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
process
discussion
that
we
need.
We
should
or
try
to
work
through
I'll
offer
to
this
group
so
anyway,
I'll
shut
up
on
that.
Thank
you,
mem
council
member
waring.
I
appreciate
those
those
words
and
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
the
chairman.
C
F
Oh
hi,
thank
you,
councilman
waring.
Your
thoughts
have
been
my
thoughts
for
like
three
years,
and
I
just
I'm
on
the
communications
committee,
and
I
would
like
to
ask
if
those
members
would
please
hurry
and
get
back
to
me.
F
So
we
can
first
set
up
a
meeting,
but
I
wanted
to
say
that
we
probably
need
a
a
subcommittee
that
addresses
both
the
political
issues
and
the
funding
issues,
and
I
just
want
to
put
it
out
there
that
my
sense
was
that
the
private
community
in
charleston
needs
to
be
engaged
in
so
far
as
funding
goes,
and
I
don't
ever
hear
that
talk
to
that.
I
know
that
there
are
government
resources.
I
know
that
everybody's
going
to
be
competing
for
them
in
one
form
or
another
at
every
level.
F
But
my
sense
too
is
that
and
has
been
all
along,
that
charleston
needs
to
take
care
of
charleston
as
well
as
reaching
out
regionally,
and
I
I
agree
that
we
don't
have
a
a
strategy
for
that
as
a
city,
and
I
think
that
this
is
not
only
a
critical
time
and
a
need
to
do
it,
but
also
an
opportunity
to
become
the
center
of
a
regional
effort.
F
But
we've
got
to
have
private
voices.
We've
got
to
have
corporate
voices
and
we
have
to
have
government
voices
all
contributing
to
this,
and
we
need
a
communications
plan
to
go
side
by
side
with
that,
because
the
public
has
to
pay
for
this
in
the
long
run.
So
thank
you,
mr
waring.
F
You
put
a
frame
around
this
and
I
think
I'm
not
on
the
financial
committee,
I'm
not
a
financial
person,
but
my
sense
is
that
we
need
a
specialty
group
of
people
in
finance
who
know
a
heck
of
a
lot
more
than
probably
most
of
us
on
how
to
get
money
together
and
fund
billions
of
dollars
that
this
community,
along
with
all
the
other
coastal
communities
in
the
country,
are
going
to
need
to
protect
itself.
Charleston
has
to
take
care
of
charleston.
C
Thank
you,
susan
greatly,
appreciate
it
and
I
mean
between
if
councilman
were
wearing
we're
willing
to
join
and
between
him
and
bob
and
the
rest
of
dan,
the
rest
of
folks
on
that
and
jordi
and
the
rest
of
folks
on
that
working
group.
Rather,
we
have
a
lot
of
very
sharp
people
on
there.
So
that's
that's.
That's
good
news.
Bob.
I
saw
your
hand
up
earlier.
H
Just
a
quick
one,
maybe
to
accelerate
our
process.
Are
there?
Could
each
member
draft
a
resolution
draft
a
recommendation
or
a
proposal,
and
then
we
can
react
to
something
as
opposed
to
starting
with
a
you
know:
weight
sheet
of
paper
and
we've
we've
sort
of
talked
talked
around
a
number
of
things
that
we
all
feel
are
important.
H
I
wonder
if
that
might
be
a
process
to
sort
of
get
to
end
a
job
and
then
submit
those
recommendations
when
they're
available
and
just
somehow
accelerate
this
process,
because
it's
it's
a
daunting.
It's
a
daunting
task,
just
just
as
an
idea.
C
Good
way
of
starting,
you
put
it
well
as
opposed
to
starting
from
a
white
sheet
of
paper.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
D
D
Yeah
I
mean
maybe
building
out
on
that
suggestion
or
perhaps
a
friendly
amendment
to
it.
Perhaps
a
function
of
the
working
groups
could
be
to
gather
those
recommendations
as
a
working
group
and
bring
those
forward
in
the
reporting
ad.
I'm
just
again,
I
I
know
I'm
a
broken
record
about
process,
but
you
know
one
of
you
mentioned
about.
Maybe
it
was
mark.
Maybe
it
was
haygood
mentioned
developing
an
action
plan
and
there
are
different
ways
of
defining
an
action
plan,
I'm
not
sure
which
definition
you
were
thinking
of
when
you
said
that.
D
But
what
I'm
thinking
of
is
like
what?
What
is
what
are
the
terms
of
engagement
for
this
committee
to
actually
do
the
work
and
we
are
all
feeling
a
sense
of
urgency
and
we
and
we
want
to
accelerate
our
work.
But
if
we're
like
random
about
it,
then
that's
just
going
to
bog
us
down.
So
I
had
been
thinking
get
up,
caitlyn,
I'm
I'm
looking
at
you.
D
Maybe
a
good
next
step
following
this,
and
I
know
we're
out
of
time-
would
be
for
the
people
who
are
sharing
these
working
groups
to
meet
with
you
and
like
map
out
process,
so
that
we've
got
a
clear
way
and
coordinated
and
consistent
way
that
these
groups
are
going
to
function.
That
could
include
doing
what
bob
said.
B
C
Makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
mean
the
other
thing
that
we
kind
of
blew
past.
This
is
also
going
through
topics
and
it's
something
that
we
didn't
necessarily
get
to
start.
You
know
started
to
work
through
and
got
you
know
important.
You
know
brought
up
a
lot
of
important
points,
but
I'll
actually,
susan
you're
gonna
build
on
that
comment.
Go
go
for
it.
G
I
You
have
more
floors
than
you
think
you,
I
actually
think
to
check
piggyback
on
bob's
comment
about
accelerating
we
got
city
council
meeting
on
whenever
the
next
city
council
meeting
you
ought
to
present
as
chairperson
of
this
committee
and
ask
for
requests
to
be
put
in
for
financial
strategy.
We've
got
60
days.
I
So
if
we
don't
accelerate
getting
back
to
bob's
point,
how
are
we
going
to
get
a
request
when
I
say
we,
the
city
of
charleston,
get
a
request
for
how
many
dollars
to
do
what,
when
it
comes
to
the
three
by
three
process
and
to
do
what
mark
suggested?
In
other
words,
the
controversies
on
the
wall
versus
you.
B
I
The
the
controversies
out
there
we
have
to
have
something
to
fund.
We
have
to
have
something
to
request
funding
for,
and
that
has
to
be
put
together
by
the
me
and
his
team
voted
on
by
council
and
shifted
up
the
command,
and
hopefully
our
lobbyists
get
to
working
sooner
rather
than
later
on
those
dollars
in
60
days.
That
turf
is
going
to
be
divided.
That
means
we
would
have
missed
out
on
that
opportunity
as
a
city.
So
so,
as
chairman
of
this
committee,
you
will
be
heard.
I
It's
not
going
to
be
another
little
report
coming
before
city
council,
these
stakeholder
community
committees
that
have
been
put
together.
Okay,
I'm
not
saying
mr
fladia-
it
carries
weight
with
the
mayor
and
council,
so
I
think
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
meeting,
but
some
of
it.
I
can
say
this,
but
it'd,
be
much
better
for
for
consensus
of
this
committee
to
come
forward
and
then
to
be
supported
by
myself
and
councilman
seeking
and
it
kind
of
grows
like
that
kind
of
like
dominoes.
I
So
I
think
somehow,
with
getting
from
that
clean
sheet
of
paper
between
now
and
whenever
we
meet
the
third
tuesday
and
and
this
month
I
think,
is
next-
I
think
it's
tuesday
is
the
meeting.
Somehow,
mr
chairman,
you
can
have
a
sound
bite
to
come
forward
to
maybe
jump
start
some
action
at.
D
I
Asking
for
some
of
the
money
out
of
colombia,
so
people
won't
say
literally.
I
spoke
to
two
senators
two
weeks
ago
about
another
issue
that
funding
and
they
were
actually
laughing
at
us.
One
was
out
of
florence
and
one
was
out
of
columbia
and
they
told
me
that
charleston
is
missing
in
action.
What's
happening
to
you
guys.
So,
let's,
let's
get
some
action
going
please
anyway.
So.
B
I
C
Man
yeah,
no,
I'm
I'm
definitely
would
obviously
more
than
happy
to
do
that.
I
mean
with
regards
to
that
specific
ass.
We
obviously
have
this
this
water
plan
recommendation
as
it
relates
to
funding.
I
mean
what
are
your?
What
are
your
thoughts
there
on
on
how
I
would
structure
that
conversation
and
have
it?
I
think.
C
I
I
Had
their
flight,
you
know,
I
don't
know
so
much
about
greenville
having
a
flood
but
from
from
myrtle
beach,
all
the
way
down
to
hilton
head.
B
I
In
the
senate,
you
know
you
got
to
get
20
24
votes,
they
have
46
senators,
so
you
got
you
got
to
get
24
of
them
on
your
team
and
they're
124
people
in
the
south
and
this
in
the
house,
and
you
got
to
get
a
majority
of
those.
So
I
think
the
water
plant
right
now
will
probably
and
mark
our
ask
your
opinion
on
that
as
well.
The
wall
idea-
I
don't
know
if
a
person
in
greenville
can
grab
onto
that
right
now,
but
I
think
a
water
plant
idea.
I
C
We
can
definitely
do
that.
I
mean
go
and
give
an
update.
You
know:
go
through
the
specifics
on
the
water
plane
recommendation
how
it
was
unanimous,
the
urgency
of
it.
You
know
prioritization
there.
So
the
point
is
that
yeah,
absolutely
I'm.
C
You
know,
I
think
it's
a
great
great
idea
and
I'll
I'll
do
that
on
the
whatever
we
have
to
do
mark
galen.
I
E
Again,
I
know
I
sound
like
a
broken
record,
but
I
I
think
what
precedes
even
a
water
plan
is.
Does
the
question
to
council
that
you
know,
based
on
everything
that
you
all
have
seen
this
independent
group?
Do
you
believe
that
you
need
a
perimeter
protection
system
that
starts
it?
Then
a
water
plan
precedes
you
know
the
army
corps
plan.
Can
the
army
corps
plan
work?
I
think
that
makes
it
easier
for
council
to
digest
where
this
particular
group
is
headed
and
it
begins
to
un.
E
A
Mr
chairman,
I
would
we
did
lose
a
quorum
here,
so
I
think
for
a
vote
today.
It's
not
on
the
table,
but
if
going
back
to
process,
I
would
recommend.
Mr
chairman,
you
do
something
similar
with
the
you
did
with
the
water
language
and
have
a
language
proposal
to
bob's
point
earlier
on
a
piece
of
paper
that
people
can
look
at
ahead
of
next
meeting
and
you
could
bring
that
up
as
the
first
order
of
business
to
do
a
vote
on
that
motion.
H
C
Kale
and
mark,
can
we
hold
virtual
votes
on
on
different
things?
Is
that,
like
an
email,
consent,
work
for
a
vote
or
no.
A
E
H
I
I
That
I
mean
caitlyn
is
right
about
you
know
people
dropping
off
the
call,
but
why
don't
you
circulate
that
question
today
that
bob
has
put
before
us
and
and
maybe
have
a
call
meeting
just
on
that
one
question
or
that
one
vote
friday
on
monday
and
and
get
that
up
and
down?
So
I
think
I
think
that's
important.
E
E
In
two
weeks,
so,
two
weeks
from
today
are
we
two
more
meetings
for
this
one
before
we
get
to
the
next
city
council
meeting
in
august.
I
I'm
just
maybe
I'm
fixated
on
that
2.5
billion,
but
that'll
throw
us
a
month.
So
two
weeks
from
now
that
puts
us
the
end
of
july.
The
fallen
meeting
puts
us
in
the
middle
of
august
before
we
get
that
remember
in
september
that
terry
in
columbia
they're
going
to
be
getting
together.
In
the
meantime,
you
can't
wait
till
august
20th
for
your
lobbyists
to
start
asking
for
funding.
They
really
need
to
get
going
to
work
this
month.
Anyway.
That's
just
some
of
the
things
out
there.
C
Susan
you're
in
and
out,
but
but
I
think
what
you
said
was:
can
we
start
putting
together
a
statement
to
to
go
ahead
and
put
forward
to
everybody
and,
and
you
know,
I'm
I'm
with
you-
I
mean
I
think,
bob
I'll
I'll.
If
you
could
please,
you
know
shoot
me.
I
know
you
did
this
on
the
water
plan
recommendation
as
well.
Please
shoot
me
kind
of
for
everybody.
Not
you
know
not
just
bob
susan
bob,
but
you
know
councilmember
waring.
I
mean
dog
lore,
everybody
on
the
call.
C
You
know
please
send
thoughts
on
language
and
we'll
get
that
distributed
out
and
and
post.
This
call
meeting
concept
to
have
an
ad
hoc
meeting.
H
H
So
I'm
sure
you
know
we
would
benefit
from
having
that
refined
with
additional
pretty
words.
But
if
we
all
agree,
let's
get
it
submitted.
C
I
I
will
download
that
one.
I
don't
remember
what
the
what
the
resolution
looked
like
that
was
drafted,
so
I
I
could
have
just
missed
it.
So
I'll
I'll
give
you
a
call
after
this
we'll
track
it
down.
E
Council
member,
I
sent
you
a
chat
if
you
could
just
take
a
look
at
that.
I've
got
a
couple
of
things
in
terms
of
next
couple
of
weeks
for
council
members.
I
want
to
run
by
you.
I
E
All
right,
all
right,
we'll
get
those
we'll
get
the
those
two
and
I'll,
even
maybe
help
draft
a
third
recommendation
for
the
council
to
con
direct
the
committee
to
consider-
and
I
think
at
least
what
I'm
hearing
in
terms
of
process
is
we're
striving
towards
the
17th
to
have
some
some
real
stuff
and
if
in
between
caitlyn
and
I
came
back
just
as
a
matter,
we
did
meet
with
lobbyists
last
week.
E
A
Susan
suggestion
I'll
reach
out
to
you
cash
in
mara
and
get
haygood
on
the
call,
and
maybe
we
can
do
a
quick
call
of
process
direction
forward
on
the
working
groups.
If
that
works.
A
C
Well,
I
really
appreciate
your
time.
I
know
we're
way
over
well.
Thank
you
all
very
much
so
everybody
be
on
the
lookout
for
for
additional
communications
and
with
regards
to
the
working
group
and
and
bob
I'll
give
you
a
call
right
after
you
get
off
the
line.