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City of Charleston Army Corps 3x3 Advisory Committee Meeting 10/20/21
A
B
A
If
if
we,
we
were
able
to
provide
any
sort
regarding
financing
my
answer
that
basically
said
hey,
you
know
we're
not
not
equipped
to
provide
a
go
or
no
on
the
financing
front.
You
know
one
of
our
mandates.
A
Our
ordinance
is
to
look
at
other
structures
and
look
at
concepts,
but
you
know
members
are
probably
the
ones
that
are
there
are
equipped
to
do
that,
and
so,
but
aside
from
that,
it
was
you
know
again,
you
know
positive
on
all
fronts,
and
you
know
I
think,
they're
looking
forward
to
our
next
presentation-
yeah,
hey,
laura.
I
just
saw
your
note.
I
believe
it's
up
on
youtube.
C
A
Can
give
that
to
you?
You're
welcome
you're,
welcome
I've
learned
at
this
point.
I
have
no
ability
to
ad-lib.
So
pretty
red
word
for
word
bob.
I
see
your
hand
up
go
for
it.
D
Hey
good
great
great
job,
how
do
you
read
the
fact
that
there
was
only
one
question.
A
A
I
don't
know
how
to
put
it
like
very
in-depth
topics
to
discuss
this.
This
is
one
of
them.
So
the
point
is
that
I
think
a
lot
of
the
detail
was
probably
pushed
to
and
they
had
a
full
agenda.
A
So
I
think
a
lot
of
the
details
probably
pushed
to
this
october
21st
workshop,
which
is
you
know,
tomorrow's
workshop
at
the
and
then
after
that
I
think,
there'll
be
more
discussion
was
the
way
it
was
left
more
discussion
at
the
at
our
next
upcoming
presentation,
which
I
cannot
forget
the
date
of
it
offhand.
But
it's
upcoming
next
couple
weeks.
A
After
you
had
audio
issues,
do
you
know
offhand
what
the
next
presentation
is?
E
I
mean
I
think
that
is
up
to
the
to
this
advisory
committee
when
they
want
to
do
that.
I
think
the
target
was
november
9th
you
will
likely
have
you
would
if
you
would
do
that,
then
you
can
do
it
on
november
23rd.
You
can
do
it
as
late
as
I
think
december
7th.
I
think
that
would
be
the
next
one
that
is
up
to
the
committee
to
determine
when
it
wants
to
do
that.
E
I
think
it's
gonna
should
be
prepared
to
say
something
more
definitive
as
opposed
to
sort
of
process
recommendations,
and
you
know
very
firm
statements
about
their
water
plan.
You
know
what
your
feelings
are.
Thoughts
are
about
about
this
process
and
should
the
city
step
into
pet
cautiously
or
not,
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
it
or
continue
continue
moving
forward
with
investigations.
E
E
Have
the
option
there
november
9th
be
aware
that
you
will
be
competing
competing
general
kelly,
the
dis,
the
division
commander
from
the
army
of
engineers
for
the
south
atlantic
division,
which
is
the
charleston
district,
falls
under
that
he
will
be
in
town
that
day
and
may
be
making
a
short
presentation
to
counsel.
Also
about
that
about
this
topic.
So.
A
It
might
not
be
a
bad
idea
to
attack
on
to
that.
Just
as
we're
discussing
it.
You
know
it's
shifting
and
now
we,
you
know
the
less
abrupt
it
can
be.
I
feel
like
the
better
discussion
will
get
right.
A
D
Yeah
that
that's
that's
fine
yeah,
I
guess
there'd
be
a
number
of
ways
to
interpret
it,
but
we'll
see
what
the
nature
of
the
interaction
is
tomorrow.
You
know,
the
continuing
question
is,
you
know
we
can
do
great
work.
Allen
can
do
great
work.
A
lot
of
people
can
do
great
work
and
if
we
don't
have
the
votes
at
the
city
council,
you
know
doa.
So
that's
that's
a
concern
just
you
know.
I
think
it's
a
concern.
Everyone
shares.
A
Yeah,
I
agree
herbert
go
for
it.
B
Good
morning,
hey,
hey
everyone.
Could
you
elaborate
somewhat
as
to
the
council's
response
to
the
rose
mount
situation,
and
I
heard
you
say
in
reference
to
laura's
question
about
getting
the
full
report.
That's
a
written
report.
How
and
when
can
that
be
available,
or
how
do
we
go
about
getting
that.
A
I
have
it
in
some
kind
of
document.
I
just
figure
out
whether
it's
either
a
word
document
or
maybe
on
my
evernote
or
something
like
that.
So
for
laura's
point
I
think
it's
probably
the
easiest
way
to
do
it.
A
E
If
I
can
beg
caitlyn
to
find
the
city
council
video
the
on
on
youtube,
the
recording
and
find
out
where
your
star
starring
role
occurred
at
the
time-
and
she
sends
that
out
to
everyone-
is
a
link.
So
here's
the
link
to
the
video
here
is
where
heygood
does
his
work
and
I
think
then
you'll
have
the
the
verbatim
transcript
of
what
what
the
verbatim
recording
of
what
has
happened
is
that
is
that
a
way
to
solve
this,
because
there
wasn't
a
republic
there
wasn't
a
report.
E
F
I
can
do
that.
I
think
I
also
have
I
can
collect
the.
I
think
your
transcript
from
what
the
suggested
language
of
recommendation
that
you
pulled
together
from
the
email
chains
that
everybody
sent
last
week
before
your
presentation,
and
you
know
if
you're
looking
for
the
language
for
the
rosemont
resiliency
strategy,
I
can
send
that
out
and
same
with
the
water
plan
recommendation
and
the
east
side.
I
have
all
that
I
just
have
to
put
in
one
place,
though,
and
I
will
go
back
and
find
that
time
and
the
remarks.
C
Yeah,
I
look
with
my
request.
I
wasn't
trying
to
create
a
lot
of
work
for
everyone.
It
would
be
helpful
to
be
able
to.
I
thought,
perhaps
hey
good.
You
had
a
document
with
your
talking
points
on
it
that
you
could
share
with
us,
but
if
that's
hard
and
kailyn
is
going
to
be
work
for
you
to
go,
collect
things
in
different
places,
then
don't
worry
about
it.
We
can
go.
Look
at
the
youtube.
G
E
Say
good
if
you'll
just
send
your
word
document
with
your
talking
points,
then
we
can
that
caitlyn
will
find
the
point
on
the
video
and
then
we
can
wrap
it
up
with
just
sending
that
out
to
everyone,
the
document
and
the
and
the
reference
to
the
video
and
the
timing
in
the
video
and
I
think,
mission
accomplished.
E
A
It
I
heard
there
there
was
not
any
response
from
city
council
not
to
say
that
folks
didn't
have
a
thought
or
or
or
you
know
there
just
wasn't
any
sort
of
response
at
the
moment
regarding
rosemont
really,
the
only
response
I
got
was
regarding
financing.
A
Was
was
regarding
financing
was
regarding
the
funding
of
the
project,
and
that
was
a
specific
question.
Aside
from
that,
there's
a
lot
of
general
positive
feedback.
You
know,
but
there
was
nothing
specific
to
the
water
plan.
Rosemont
the
east
side,
alignment
east
side
of
the
peninsula
alignment
nor
nor
nor
the
ports
count.
A
So
I
didn't
get
specific.
There
was
no
specific
questions
or
feedback
on
any
of
the
any
of
the
recommendations.
E
Any
other
comments
I
mean:
do
you
want
me
to
give
my
little
brief
update
here
on
whatever
the
agenda?
I
I
apologize,
but
I've
been
asked
to
do
an
interview
with
cnn
out
in
church
creek,
starting
at
11
o'clock,
they're
interested
in
all
the
things
happening
in
charleston,
and
I
have
to
be
out
there
by
11,
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
drop
at
10
30.
and
I
apologize
very
much,
but
I
I
have
to
go
out
and
do
that.
E
So
if
you
want
me
to
provide
a
little
update
of
what
we've
been
doing
and
some
of
the
things
I've
I've
been
working
on
happy
to
do
that
now.
A
Yeah
yeah
wait
what
real,
quick
before
you
do
that
just
a
couple
clarification
items,
all
right
that
doesn't
answer
your
question.
Does
that
get
you
taken
care
of
for
the
moment.
B
B
A
Understood
I
think,
after
this
you
know,
this
workshop
will
be
a
good
opportunity
to
discuss
that
specific
feedback,
just
something
to
have
on
your
calendars
and
then
next
quick
cleanup
item
is
killin.
Do
we
have
a
kilnerdale?
F
We
actually
do
not.
So
if
there's
anything
that
needs
to
have
a
motion
to
vote
on
something,
we
could
not
do
that
unless
somebody
else
joins
in
this
meeting,
because
we
only
have
half
the
committee
on
right
now.
A
I
understood
understood,
I
know,
we've
had
a
lot
of
meetings,
so
it's
has
something
to
do
with
it
and
then
bob
I'm
gonna
wrap
just
my
kind
of
update
section
with
with
you
and
then
they'll
go
to
you.
I
know
your
timing
is
up,
but.
A
Of
town
council,
member,
harry
griffin,
thank
you,
sir
dale.
Please
go
for
it.
E
Great
thanks
everyone.
I
know
we've
been
working
a
lot
and-
and
I
appreciate
your
continued
engagement
and
thoughts.
I've
spoken
with
a
lot
of
you
over
the
last
two
weeks
and
it's
always
fruitful
and
I
learn
a
lot.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Some
updates
here,
city
council,
at
the
request
of
council
member
carol
jackson,
who
I
think
is
on
the
is
listening
today.
She
requested
a
workshop
about
a
month
ago
that
workshop
is
scheduled
for
tomorrow,
4
p.m.
E
At
the
gilliard,
the
it's
a
it's
a
council
workshop,
so
the
public
is
invited.
It
is
not
an
interactive
session
with
the
public.
It
is
a
council
workshop
where
there
will
be
a
series
of
presentations,
some
of
which
you've
heard
parts
of
and
and
you
will
have
myself
wes
from
the
army
corps
of
engineers,
matt
fountain
from
stormwater.
E
And
I
think
that's
it
and
and
sort
of
a
brief
update,
either
from
amy
wharton
or
myself
on
on
the
financing
plan
for
ped
and
sort
of
concepts
of
a
strategy
that
will
be
tomorrow
again
four
o'clock.
E
It
is
in
person
and
after
that,
after
the
meeting
is
over,
we
were
bringing
all
these
large
maps
we
have
of
of
the
peninsula
and
the
like
the
alignment
or
the
tsp
alignment
of
the
structure
with
elevations
and
things
like
that,
so
people
can
actually
look
at
it
and
that
is
going
to
be
very
helpful
with
just
seeing
the
map
in
front
of
you
as
opposed
in
a
you
know,
little
screen
in
front
of
you
just
that
is
just
very
useful.
E
We
know
that
from
design
workshops
I
I
want
to
just
make
a
give
susan
and
her
team,
big
applause
for
the
document
that
they
developed.
We
think
it's
very
strong
off
the
record.
The
corps
of
engineers
looked
at
it
and
gave
it
two
thumbs
up.
So
there
you
go.
You
did
a
great
job,
I
mean
it's
just
you
know
it
was.
It
was
very
informational.
We
appreciate
the
work
that
you
and
your
team
did
on,
that
it
is
on
the
city's
website,
which
should
be
on
the
city's
website.
E
You
know
the
issue
with
the
alignment
through
the
union
peer
terminal,
the
tsp
alignment
through
union
peer
terminal
and
columbus
terminal
is
a
very
important
issue.
The
city
had
a
position
about
that
that
the
city
thought
it
should
be
pushed
further
eastward
towards
the
cooper
river.
A
brief
update.
There
is
the
corps
of
engineers
and
the
port
are
working
closely
on
this.
You
saw
the
port
statement
that
hagwood
read
to
the
council
last
week
that
you
know
they're
they're
working
together.
E
The
possible
move
of
that
line
is
likely
not
to
be
too
much
different
from
what
the
discovery
report.
The
water
wagon
of
all
water
team
recommended
last
year,
so
really
close
to
the
to
the
to
the
land
water
edge
on
the
port.
So
that
would
encapsulate
that
that
would
bring
that
entire
structure
and
bring
the
entire
port
property
within
that,
and
it
has
to
be
done
with
the
port
operations
in
mind
and
the
redevelopment
you
pure
terminal.
E
So
there
are
some
things
there,
but
we're
hopeful
that
that
by
december
and
that's
a
loose
target,
but
it
feels
to
be
a
doable
target
that
there
will
be
much
more
to
say
about
this
and
you
will
again,
if
all
the
analysis
go
right,
it's
not
just
moving
the
line.
E
The
core
has
to
do
an
analysis
against
this
line,
like
they
did
against
all
the
other
lines
on
the
map
to
make
sure
the
impact
do
an
impact
analysis
and
a
real
estate
analysis
and
all
the
things
that
go
into
the
into
the
analysis
that
was
done
for
tsp,
so
they're
going
to
they're
doing
that
now.
So
it
does
show
some
flexibility
from
the
core
of
engineers
and
it
shows
an
achievement.
We
hope
of
of
making
this
line
work
better
for
the
city,
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that
again.
E
No
promises
but
they're
working
hard
and
we
hope
to
hear
something
in
a
month
or
before
the
end
of
the
year.
Yesterday,
the
chamber
metro
chamber
of
commerce
held
a
business
in
the
backyard
event
focused
on
the
three
by
three
and
what
it
is
and
what
is
tsp
and
ped.
The
mayor
and
I
made
a
presentation
at
that
it
will
be
posted
on
the
website
their
website.
You
can
see,
see
what
we
said
there.
E
It
was
pretty
pretty
well
attended,
we
think
for
given
code
rules
because
they're
in
existence
at
the
metro
chamber
offices-
and
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
online,
just
just
a
briefing
again.
I
would
recommend
if
you
want
to
see
what,
how
we're
approaching
this
it's
there.
You
can
watch
the
video.
E
I
want
to
acknowledge
a
gentleman
from
from
the
medical
district
and
dennis
dennis.
Maybe
you
want
to
reframe
or
rephrase
what
your
colleague
stuart
said
he's
the
ceo,
I
think
of
the
of
the
medical
district.
So
anyway,.
A
A
Yeah
stuart
nixon
was
there.
I
was
on
the
video,
he
was
there
in
person
and-
and
I
thought
the
presentation,
the
dale
you
and
the
mayor
made
and
and
the
west's
marks
were
very
good.
A
You
know,
as
I've
said,
I
think
in
earlier
meetings
the
medical
district
we're
concerned,
but
most
with
all
these
other
issues
that
are
being
talked
about,
but
for
us
survival
of
the
patient
care
we
deliver
is
just
paramount,
and
so
the
surge
protection
is
is
important,
and
so
our
our
position
and
I've
talked
to
the
va-
and
the
roper
of
course
musc-
is
that
we
we
think
that
moving
ahead
to
ped
is
recommended.
So
we
could
answer
these
questions.
A
E
Sure
great,
thank
you
dennis
again.
It
was.
It
was
a
fruitful
meeting.
It
was
informative.
I
think
that
was
my
goal.
So
it's
there
to
look
at
that.
This
is
part
of
the
outreach
that
the
city
has
been
doing,
keep
in
mind.
We
are
talking
with
the
us
congress
members,
so
members,
mason,
clyburn
and
scott
and
graham
and
those
folks,
some
city
with
some
county
folks
and
some
state
folks.
Those
things
are
underway,
we're
informing
them
where
we
are,
and
you
know
what
we
think
about
where
we
are.
E
We
have
a
meeting,
an
informal
meeting
with
the
gatsenborough
neighborhood
this
week,
the
army
corps,
and
I
think
alan
davis
and
myself
we're
going
to
go
over
there
and
listen
and
try
to
try
to
explain
where
we
are
and
then
see
what
they
think
about
that
we're.
I'm
meeting
with
the
chamber
regional
policy
committee
later
today
with
council
member
seekings
about
just
more
information
so
that
so
their
policy.
We
can
ask
questions.
E
Two
weeks
ago
there
was
a
meeting.
Ten
days
ago
there
was
a
meeting
in
with
the
rosemont
community
that
that
I
joined
and
susan
joined.
There's
a
follow-up
meeting.
This
saturday
and
again
this
is
very
important
to
us,
so
we
will.
I
will
attend
that,
and
I
know
the
army
corps
of
engineers
is
trying
to
trying
to
do
that.
E
I
think
wes
has
a
has
a
conflict
on
such
on
such
notice
with
his
kids,
and
so
that
happens
so
they're
going
to
try
to
find
someone
else,
and
we
had
a
meeting
this
week.
Kailyn
allen,
davis
myself
had
a
meeting
this
week
with
the
leadership
of
the
yacht
club
because
they're
asking
questions
about
and
what,
if
what
ped
means,
as
you
translate
that
what
tsp
means
is
translate
that
into
ped,
so
this
kind
of
engagement
and
information
exchange
back
and
forth
is
something
we
need
to
continue
doing
and
we're
working
at
it.
E
Just
a
couple.
Other
final
things:
the
army
corps
engineers,
was
tasked
so
after
hurricane
sandy,
the
army
corps
of
engineers
was
tasked
with
develop
a
larger
risk
profile
for
the
nation.
So
what
is
the
coastal
risk
in
the
high?
In
the
largest
sense,
the
word,
and
they
first
did
a
nax
study
a
north
atlantic
coast,
comprehensive
study.
It
was
done
between
2014
and
2018,
and
its
parameters
were
from
maine
to
the
virginia
north
carolina
border.
E
They
then
started.
Another
study
called
the
sac
study,
so
they're
real
creative
with
their
acronyms
snacks
and
sacks,
but
the
south
atlantic
post
comprehensive
study,
and
that
was
looking
at
coastal
risk
from
the
virginia
north
carolina
border
over
to
the
mississippi
louisiana
border,
so
65
000
miles
of
coastline.
E
The
draft
sax
report
was
released
last
friday.
It's
available
online
on
this
south
atlantic
division
website.
The
army
course
south
atlantic
division
website,
if
you
type,
if
you
type
in
sax,
usa,
usace
and
google
you'll
come
to
the
report,
it's
it's
very
long
again,
a
lot
of
appendices
and
things
like
that,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
to
note
what
they
concluded.
They
looked
at
all
the
coastal
risks.
They
looked
at
this
key
population
areas.
They
looked
at
physical
vulnerability
to
infrastructure
and
population
and
social
vulnerability.
E
They
went
through
the
entire
process,
economic
analysis
and
all
that
and
they
concluded.
You
know
in
this
entire
region.
Florida
carries
the
most
grits
carries
about
80
percent
of
the
coastal
risk
in
the
region.
No
surprise
it
has
the
most
shoreline.
The
number
two
state,
the
state
second
state,
with
the
most
amount
of
risk,
is
south
carolina.
E
I
think
we
know
why
charleston
is
valuable,
but
there
are
other
places
in
the
coast
that
have
some
risks
too,
and
then
they
looked
at
all
the
existing
projects
and
projects
that
could
be
imagined
to
mitigate
this
risk.
So
you
know:
where
do
you
invest
first
as
a
priority?
E
They
concluded
that
the
number
one
priority
throughout
this
entire
region
is
the
charleston
district.
This
is
the
charleston
csrm
study.
It
is
the
number
one,
and
so
we
all
know
how
valuable
this
place
is.
This
is
a
separate
study
from
the
army
board
of
engineers,
looked
at
everywhere
from
north
carolina
come
to
to
the
mississippi
louisiana,
and
this
is
the
highest
priority,
because
it's
the
quickest
way
to
bite
on
risk.
E
E
So
this
should
give
you
a
sense
that
we're
talking
very
real
things
here
and
the
cormier
poor
virgin
nurse
has
said.
This
is
something
that
that
could
and
should
be
done
and
the
coordination
of
these
studies.
These
were
done
by
two
separate
two
separate
places.
The
csrm
study
for
charleston
peninsula
was
primarily
done
by
erdog
in
the
norfolk
district.
With
the
charleston
district
in
line,
the
knack
study
was
done
by
other
people
in
the
charleston
district.
It
was
done
in
fact
by
the
south
atlantic
division
and
folks
from
the
north
atlantic
division.
E
So
two
separate
teams
working
within
the
corbin
here
on
this,
and
you
know
I'll
refer
this
to
you.
I
have
images
about
this,
but
it
is
a
very
important
statement
from
the
army.
Criminals
will
have
to
buy
down
the
risk,
a
recommendation
to
congress
so
again,
if
congress
would,
if
the
city
would
decide
to
move
forward
into
ped,
the
10.2
is
awesome.
The
template,
2
bcr,
is
awesome.
E
Bob
asked,
and
I
think
susan
or
bob
or
someone
asked,
could
we
talk
about
ped
and
what
is
it?
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
Yeah.
I
don't
think
I
can
do
it
today.
I
can
do
it
briefly.
We
just
had
a
conversation
with
core
I've
had
numerous
conversations
with
reporter
kate
and
I
have
been
with
alan
over.
You
know
what
is
pet
entail
and
all
that
I
sent
you
all
an
email,
probably
three
or
four
weeks
ago,
with
sort
of
the
overline
of
what
do
you
do
in
ped?
E
This
is
in
the
army
corps
csrm
feasibility
report
draft
optimized
from
september
10,
that's
on
it's
in
pages
267
to
269.,
so
you
can
look
at
that.
I'm
happy
to
talk
more
about
it.
E
If
we
need
to
at
the
next
meeting
a
financial
plan
for
ped
should
be
ready
tomorrow
we
finally
had
some
information
working
on
some
numbers
and
amy
wards
and
the
cfo
is
perfecting
those
numbers
now.
So
that's
good
again.
It's
a
plan
for
ped
and
a
strategy
for
construction,
because
you
know
if
we
don't
get
successfully
through
ped
and
design
and
engineer
a
structure
that
we
want
that
works
for
the
city.
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
to
move
into
construction.
E
So
again
you
don't
want
to
put
the
part
for
the
horse,
but
you
do
have
to
assume
that
maybe
we'll
be
successful
if
we
step
into
pet
that
we
could
design
a
structure
that
works
and
then
you'd
want
to
have
a
strategy
for
that.
You
want
to
be
naked
going
into
that
discussion,
so
that's
there
and
then
finally,
bob
asked
me
informally
elastic
hey.
Could
we
get
the
army
board
of
engineers
to
respond
or
to
comment
on
alan
davis's
study
and
bob,
and
I
had
a
discussion?
E
It's
sort
of
you
know
the
army
courts
300
pages.
So
what
do
you
want
them
to
comment
on?
It
is
sort
of
tough.
Would
I
have
asked
that
question
then.
Would
they
be
willing
to
talk
about
what
is
possible
and
not
impede
vis-a-vis
ellen's
suggestions
and
the
loose
answer
is.
E
Can
certainly
explore
in
ted,
but
for
them
to
comment
on
it
right
now.
This
is
this.
Is
their
informal
answer
bob
I'm
just
being
clear
here
their
informal
answer
right
now
is
they
would
need
to
know
more
about
these
alignments
and
are
they
do
we
have
any
idea
of
performance?
Do
we
have
any
idea
of
cost?
Do
we
have
energy
of
constructability,
and
once
you
could
understand
that,
then
I
think
they
can
make
some
performance
like
thumbs
up.
E
This
is
awesome
and
we
we
we
are
able
to
do
this,
or
we
can't
do
this
because
the
class
will
be
10
times
more,
and
so
until
you
get
that
kind
of
information
they
are.
The
district
is
reluctant
to
go
deep
into
this
study
and
and
comment
there,
so
they
have
farmed
it
up
to
the
chain
of
command
to
see
what
they
could
say
about
it.
E
But
right
now
the
the
answer
on
that
question
is
until
they
have
a
lot
more
information
about
those
alternatives
and
and
nancy
parish,
which
is
the
chief
planner
has
looked
at
them
and
she
likes
them
and
she
thinks
some
of
those
are
possible
without
the
sort
of
the
performance
criteria,
the
performance
and
the
impact
and
impact
assessment
of
how
these
things
would
perform.
E
It's
just
hard
for
them
to
comment,
and
I
know
that's
a
unsatisfactory
answer
bob
and
I
I'm
doing
my
best
we're
waiting
for
a
formal
answer,
but
that's
where
we
stand
now
so
and
if
I'm
in
the
army
corps
position
and
bob
you
work
for
a
corporation,
and
some
of
you
also
work
for
corporations,
corporations
tend
not
to
say
things
that
they're
not
sure
that
they
can
back
up.
That's
a
matter
of
due
diligence
to
protect
the
corporate
reputation,
and
I
think
that's
what's
happening
here.
E
Is
they
don't
want
to
roll
anything
in
or
out?
Now
because
they
don't
have
enough
information
to
do
that,
vis-a-vis
allen's
set
of
designs,
we
do
see
what
happened
with
with
the
port.
We
thought
that
was
an
intractable
thing,
and
now
it
looks
like
it's
they're
working
very
diligently
to
resolve
this
before
tsp
is
wrapped
up
and
no
one
thought
that
was
possible,
and
here
we
are
so
so
that's
my
update.
A
Thanks
dallas,
that's
quite
an
update,
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
notes
there
bob
I
see
you,
you
have
your
virtual
hand
up,
go
for
it
yeah.
Thank
you.
D
D
Dale
talked
on
the
one.
I
don't
want
it
characterized.
As
a
bob
question,
I'd
have
a
straw
poll
of
the
committee
right
now.
D
If
I
ran
the
world
of
who
wants
to
hear
from
the
army
corps
of
engineers
before
we
take
a
position
on
ped
in
terms
of
alan's
work,
a
discussion,
not
commitments,
not
blood,
on
a
piece
of
paper
who
wants
to
hear
from
the
army
corps
of
engineers,
on
how
they're
processing
alan's
good
work
and
the
corollary
question
is
what
has
been
the
exposure
of
the
city
council
to
allen's
work.
D
I
I
noted
that
it
doesn't
sound
like
alan
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
speakers
at
the
workshop
tomorrow,
which
I
think
might
be
an
opportunity
missed.
But
how
do
we
leven
this
loaf
so
that
we're
fully
informed
in
terms
of
you
know
we're
sort
of
you
know?
D
E
Long
term
can
I
respond
to
that
bob.
Can
I
respond
to
that?
I
I
made
a
mistake
at
the
beginning,
when
I
listed
who's
talking
presenting
to
council
tomorrow.
That's
my
fault:
it's
been
long
hours.
Alan
is
a
member
of
that
presentation
panel
tomorrow
he
will
be
talking
sharing
a
very
similar
thing
to
what
he
presented
to
the
council
to
the
committee
two
weeks
ago.
He
has
already,
I
think,
given
a
small
briefing.
E
This
is
months
ago
to
council
that
they're
working
on
this
members
of
council
are
aware
of
the
of
the
wonderful
work
that
they're
doing
on
this.
The
allen's
report,
the
300
pages,
was
edited
a
bit
for
you
know
whatever
it
was
draft,
and
so
he
tied
it
up
as
best
as
possible.
It
is
being
sent
or
has
been
sent
to
council
today
as
part
of
the
documentation
for
tomorrow's
meeting.
So
I
apologize
for
not
not
sharing
or
not
being
as
clear
as
I
could
earlier.
So
no.
D
H
You
quick
quick
notification
on
that.
The
that
document
got
to
council
on
friday.
I
know
that
council
members
probably
don't
spend
their
weekends
as
as
a
lot
of
us
do
working
I'm
sure
they
do
actually.
But
I
don't
know
how
much
time
they
had
to
process
that
over
the
weekend,
but
we
wrapped
it
up
last
week
and
I
saw
it
go
out.
H
I
think
end
of
day
on
friday,
so
hopefully
that's
enough
time
for
them
to
at
least
scan
it
and
take
a
look
at
it
and
maybe
zero
in
on
some
of
the
segments
that
are
of
most
interest
to
them.
I've
got
a
presentation
at
probably
about
15
minutes
at
the
city
council
workshop
and,
as
I
mentioned,
to
kayla
katelyn
earlier
this
week,
we'll
have
that
document
available.
Should
any
council
members
have
specific
questions
about
a
specific
page
or
segment?
We
can
bring
that
up
and
discuss
it
at
the
workshop.
H
So
we're
doing
good.
We're
also
doing
a
lot
of
social
media
around
the
release
of
the
report
and
all
the
content
is
on
our
website.
So
at
least
on
our
following
we're
sort
of
pushing
that
out
and
we're
hoping
that
the
media
will
will
start
to
catch
on
and
and
and
present
that
to
others
as
well,
and
so
we
get
more
people
looking
at
that
and
we're
also
pointing
a
lot
of
people
towards
the
army
corps
report,
because
that
comment
period
ends
very
soon.
D
A
final,
quick
one
and
it's
on
a
different
topic
seems
like
there's
been
a
little
bit
of
a
pivot.
Maybe
I'm
misunderstanding
it
that
amy's
mandate
or
mission
is
to
clarify
the
funding
sources
for
first
year
ahead,
but
doesn't
the
certification
envelop
the
the
city's
financial
wherewithal
for
the
big
casino,
the
entire
project,
and
is
that
captured
in
your
comments
dale
about?
D
Then
there
will
be
a
strategy,
but
I
mean
I
think
we
as
account
and
once
again,
not
speaking
for
the
council
here,
I'm
talking
for
bob
I'd
like
to
see
what
the
plan
is
to
finance
whatever
our
amount
is,
and
it's
not
a
spreadsheet,
with
line
item,
detail
and
commitments.
Black
ink
on
the
white
paper,
but
some
notion
of
how
we're
going
to
carry
this
ball
across
the
finish
line
and
yeah
pet
is
the
first
cash
call.
D
But
unless
you
know,
unless
I'm
misunderstanding,
that
certification
relates
to
our
commitment
to
go
the
go
the
distance.
Oh
thank
you.
E
So
let
me
respond
bob.
Let
me
just
say
you
know,
I'm
with
you
a
financial
financial
can
we
do.
This
is
essential
amy
is
we
have
a
call
with
her
later
today?
I
made
some
suggestions,
sir
last
week
about
possible
ways
of
doing
this.
She
she
gave
me
information,
so
there's
an
interaction
underway.
It's
wonderful
stay
tuned
until
tomorrow,
you'll
see
a
a
strategy
start
a
plan
for
ped
not
year
one,
but
a
plan
for
ped
we're
assuming
four
years
could
be
five.
E
It
could
be
three
but
we're
assuming
four
and
how
that
would
be
funded.
And
then
there
is
a
long
term
plan.
It's
a
strategy
of
what
we
think
is
necessary
to
be
able
to
meet
the
financial,
commit
commitments
of
the
city
to
this.
If
we
would
decide
if
we,
if
we
in
ped,
can
design
an
engineer,
a
structure
that
we
want,
okay
and
that's
a
tbd,
we
don't
know
that.
That's
what
pet
is
for
right
to
see.
E
If
we
can
get
there
and
then
if
we
can
get
there,
then
then
we
decide
to
move
to
construction
and
construct
it
and
that's
where
the
big
ask
of
money
or
fund
funding
comes
from.
So
again
there
is
a
whatever
there
are.
There
is
a
strategy
being
developed
for
the
longer
term
question,
but
the
head
that
will
be
a
plan
that
will
be
with
sort
of
a
very.
A
Indication,
I
would
just
also
let
the
group
know
last
night,
the
mayor
made
a
comment,
and
I
think
these
are
in
big
round
numbers,
but
he
said
perhaps
the
state
would
go
for
the
state
for
100
million
in
the
county
for
25
million,
and
then
he
said,
I
believe
he
said
the
easements
that
we're
putting
into
it
are
worth
another
approximate
100
million
at
some
point,
dale
after
you've
had
more
time
to
work
through
this.
You
might
summarize
that
in
real
broad
terms,
but
show
the
committee
what
you're
thinking
there,
too
yeah
okay.
E
So
I'll
do
that
and
again-
and
this
is
I'm
doing
this
in
trust
with
this
committee-
I
mean
nothing-
I'm
saying
is
not
something
I
wouldn't
say
in
public,
but
again
I
can't
get
ahead
of.
I
am
not
the
cfo
and
I
am
not
city
council,
so
I
just
want
to
make
clear
here
that
this
is
where
we
see
this.
E
We
can
see
that
the
ped
being
financed
with
some
surplus
hospitality
fees
and
surplus
accommodation
fees,
because
there
are
surpluses
projected
and
they
feel
pretty
secure,
there's
also
some
funding,
possibly
from
the
millage
bank.
So
that's
a
that's
a
surplus
that
you
see
coming
forward
in
the
next
two
or
three
years
from
property
taxes
that
are
shared
from
the
county
to
the
city,
so
this
is
all
very
doable.
These
aren't.
You
know
in
the
big
scheme
of
things,
these
aren't
large
amounts
over
four
years.
E
It's
17
million
dollars
over
four
years,
so
it's
a
large
amount,
but
in
the
big
scheme
of
things
it's
it's
not
a
terrible
amount.
Can
we
do
that?
Yes,
for
a
financial
strategy
for
construction,
we
would
continue
to
use
a
small
portion
of
those
surpluses
that
we
see
in
accommodations
and
hospitality.
E
They,
you
know
they're
they're
limited
in
their
use
because
they
have
to
be
related
to
tourism,
so
they
can't
cover
the
entire
structure.
I
had
to
do
a
breakdown
of
what
percent
of
which,
what
what
percent
of
which
pet
phase
is
related
to
tourist
activities
on
the
peninsula.
So
that's
a
linear
alignment
miles
and
feet
and
then
how
much
of
the
the
hospitality
taxes
could
be
surplus
could
be
used
for
that.
So
that
is
what
I
gave
amy
and
she's
perfecting
it
now
for
the
longer
term
strategy.
E
You
do
see
the
385
being
reduced
by
about
130
million
dollars
with
the
value
of
the
easements,
because
the
city
and
the
county
and
the
state
own
a
lot
of
the
property
through
which
this
structure,
if
we
do
it,
is
a
line
and
those
the
value
of
that
property
is
a
credit.
It
is.
It
has
a
value
and
it
is
a
credit.
So
the
385
comes
down
to,
let's
say
255
again
raw
numbers,
but
you
know
when
you
get
the
the
troop
head
part
of
that,
and
it
gets
analyzed.
E
That's
what
it
is
we
see
it.
The
mayor
has
suggested
you
know
a
request
to
the
state
for
75
million
dollars
and
request
the
county
for
25
million
dollars.
If
you
look
at
the
long-term
benefit
that
charleston
pays
in
taxes
and
gathers
in
tourism
things
that
flow
up
to
the
county,
to
the
state
that
that
it
seems
a
legitimate
question,
there
is
money
that
comes
from
the
federal
government,
whether
that's
in
disaster
funds
for
other
things
or
or
as
you
have
now,
with
the
american
recovery
plan.
E
These
things
occur,
there's
a
state
infrastructure
bank,
so
there
are
ways
of
getting
you
know
to
justify
that
request
again.
Some
of
these
other
surpluses
there
is
a
there
is
a
investigation.
Right
now
is:
could
you
do
a
peninsula
wide
mid?
There's
nine
thousand
right.
Ninety
four
hundred
properties
that
with
that,
would
be
within
a
mid
a
municipal
in
investment
district,
and
that
would
then
provide
you
know
substantial
money
too.
Exactly
what
that's
a
that's!
E
A
a
study
that
the
cfo
and
the
consultant
that
does
these
things
for
the
cfo
are
looking
at
now
and
there
is
a
wonderful
opportunity-
and
maybe
laura
is,
I
don't
know,
I'm
looking
everyone
else
on
the
phone,
but
laura
may
understand
this,
but
there
is
a
movement.
There
is
a
new
vehicle
called
a
resilience
bond.
That
is
a
very
specific
type
of
bond.
It
brings
in
private
sector
money
to
help
the
city.
Do
this
it's
a
complex
thing:
they
have
a
700
million
dollar
float
out
in
europe.
E
Right
now,
fully
subscribed
it's
working,
there's
a
few
places
that
are
working
here
with
similar
things
called
eib's,
but
a
resilient
spot
is
different
than
that
very
briefly
how
it
works,
city
and
county
pay
insurance
on
certain
things.
To
maintain
the
you
know,
their
operations
to
maintain
their
capital.
There's
insurance
payments
to
be
made
insurance
companies
looked
at
that
and
say
we
have
this
risk
facing
us.
Okay.
How
can
we
buy
on
that
risk?
E
So
then
the
insurance
companies
say
well.
If
you
buy
down
this
risk,
your
rates
are
going
to
go
down
to
x,
from
y
to
x
or
x,
to
y
that
difference
becomes
the
component.
The
possible
way
you
bond
this
thing,
so
the
city
would
save
this
money.
You
bond
against
that
future
possible
savings.
You
get
the
money
to
build
to
do
what
you
need
to
do
to
buy
down
that
risk,
so
it's
a
way
that
the
private
sector
is
coming
in
to
help
the
city.
E
Do
this
it's
a
little
bit
different
from
an
environmental
impact
bond,
because
an
environmental
impact
one
has
environmental
performance
criteria
associated
with
it?
How
many
news,
how
many
pounds
of
nutrients
are
removed?
How
much
how
much
sediment
is
trapped?
How
much
carbon
is
captured?
That's
an
eib,
an
environmental,
a
resilience
bond
is
sort
of
like
a
catastrophe
bond
bob.
You
may
know
what
that
is
too,
but
there
is
so.
E
Those
are
the
components
of
a
strategy
to
deal
with
the
construction
here,
and
so
it's
a
number
of
sources
coming
together
would
have
to
do.
Some
begging
in
in
colombia
would
have
to
do
some
begging
in
the
county.
There's
no
doubt
about
it,
I'm
not
saying
it's
easy,
but
this
is
how
you
do
this.
You
put
a
stack
together
and
you
get
there.
So
I
hope
that's.
D
Great
dale
that
that's
awesome
and
you
know
long
overdue,
but
that
is
that
kind
of
thinking
is
that
that's
underway
is
very
reassuring.
So
thank
you.
A
Hey
real
quick
just
for
going
yeah
and
yes
agreed
with
bob's
coming
out.
Thank
you
with
regards
to
just
timing
and
process
for
specifically
for
the
meeting.
I
think
it's
a
good
chance
to
to
decompress
on
a
number
of
these
items.
I
know
we
have
a
number
of
questions
stacked
up
from
dan,
susan
and
herbert,
and
so
I'm
just
gonna
let
those
go
until
10
30.
A
When
dale
has
a
hard
stop
at
which
point
he
won't
be
there
to
answer
any
more
questions
so
we'll
just
we'll
keep
it
keep
it
going
bob.
Does
that
get
your
comment
question
answered
for
the
moment.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
by
the
way
I
was
on
earlier,
I'm
having
some
video
problems,
but
I
do
want
to
commend
you.
I
thought
you
did
a
wonderful
job
on
the
presentation
to
city
council.
My
question
dale,
colonel
kelly,
you
mentioned
is
going
to
be
presenting
on
november
9th
to
city
council.
I
It
would
be
ideal
if,
before
the
9th,
we
could
have
an
audience
with
colonel
kelly.
So
maybe
if
we
can
figure
out
a
way
to
do
that,
that
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
I'm
sure
my
fellow
committee
members
would
love
to
have
an
opportunity
to
have
that
conversation.
I
think
it
would
also
provide
bob.
I
know
bob
loves
the
straw
polls
and
I
would
have
voted
yes.
Bob
on
having
the
army
corps
of
committee,
the
the
army
corps.
You
know,
listen
to
alan's
input
and
get
their
feedback,
so
maybe
we
can.
I
We
can
kill
two
birds
with
one
stone
and
and
have
colonel
kelly
available
to
us,
and
maybe
we
can
have
those
conversations
and
then
with
respect
to
the
sources
of
funds
that
is
very
encouraging,
dale
to
hear
that
there
is
now
a
plan
in
place.
It's
interesting
that
you
characterize
it
as
begging.
I
I
Is
that
plan
being
formulated
and
written
out
right
now
for
the
sources,
because
clearly,
I
think
dennis
mentioned
that
mayor
tecklenberg
had
mentioned
a
very
cursory
plan
about
money
from
the
state
from
the
county,
which
is
great,
but
right
now
I
think
that
seems
to
be
unilateral.
I
I
I'd
love
to
hear
where
the
state
sits
where
the
county
sits.
I
I
like
the
idea
of
the
resiliency
bond
I'd
love
to
hear
more
about
that,
but
I
guess
dale.
The
bigger
question
is:
will
the
city
be
dedicating
dollars
and
staff
because
look?
I
know
how
hard
you're
working.
I
know
how
hard.
I
E
I
work
in
the
mayor's
office.
I
don't
work
on
city
council.
I
think
you
know
that's
a
question
for
city
council
to
answer
it's
very
clear
that
there
is
going
to
be
staff,
support,
that
of
staff,
augmentation
needed
in
bed
and
certainly
in
construction.
If,
if,
if
we
moved
on
that
down
that
road,
alan
davis
has
said
very
clearly
that
every
moment
he
spends
working
on
the
3x3
he's
not
working
on
someone
else.
So
there's
gonna
have
to
be
a
it's.
Gonna
have
to
be
some
staff.
E
E
Okay,
so
that
that's
encouraging,
but
is
that
sufficient?
Because
again,
if
you
only
have
free
staff
there's
an
opportunity
possible,
we
all
have
that.
What
do
I
spend
my
time
on
in
any
given
day?
It
means
I'm
spending
not
spending
time
on
something
else,
so
we
have
to
make
sure
that
the
staff
is
is
fully
equipped
again
since
I've
been
in
charleston.
This
is
just
my
personal
observation.
I've
heard
nothing
but
the
professional
dedication
of
the
staff
in
the
city
of
charleston.
E
It's
what
I've
seen
it's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I'm
here
and
I've
also
heard
very
clearly
from
the
realtors
and
from
the
engineering
community
and
others
like
the
city
staff,
is
overworked.
That's
what
I've
heard!
It's
not
my!
It's
not
my
choice
and
it's
not
my
role
to
recommend
anything
about
that,
but
you
know
I
think
city
council
is
going
to
have
to
weigh
in
on
that.
E
And-
and
I
will
I
will
ask
about
colonel
kelly
us
on
general
kelly-
I
think
he's
a
general,
so
I
would
ask
I
will
ask
him
to
do
that.
I
think
that's
possible
and
I
actually
know
him
a
bit
from
our
work
in
norfolk
when
I
was
with
the
embassy.
So
oh
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
susan.
Please
go
for
it.
C
I
know
there
isn't
time
for
dale
to
do
this
today,
but
I'm
wondering
if
maybe
at
our
next
meeting,
you
could
explain
the
difference
between
and
going
with,
lpp
or
going
with
the
full
head,
because
I
know
it's
come
up
and
I
think
we
need
to
understand
what
those
options
are
and
what
what
they
might
mean.
In
light
of
all
of
this,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
everything
you're
doing.
A
E
B
A
Last
person
to
see
their
hand
up,
please
please
go
for
it.
B
Yes,
I'm
going
to
be
brief.
Thank
you,
bob
for
raising
the
question
about
the
army's
core
flexibility
to
looking
at
other
options
from
renowned
servers
engineers
as
to
flooding
and
wall
protection.
B
I
found
that
quite
disturbing
and
perplexing,
because
any
work
that
I
do
I'd
like
to
see
some
sort
of
criticism
or
analysis
as
to
the
quality
of
my
work,
where
I
can
maybe
make
some
adjustments
make
some
curves
and
turns
and
whatnot
for
what
I'm
hearing
the
army
corps
seems
not
to
be
as
flexible
at
looking
at
changing
their
plans.
B
So
it
would
be
to
the
best
interest
of
this
committee
and
I'm
coming
from
my
perspective,
to
look
at
well.
How
flexible
are
they?
Is
the
army
core
to
like
looking
at
qualified
suggestions
as
to
options
when
it
pertains
not
only
to
rosemont
but
to
any
other
community
that
we're
talking
about
for
the
charleston
peninsula?.
E
Let
me
respond
this
way
herbert.
We
discussed
this
in
a
previous
advisory
council
meeting
advisory
committee
meeting
the
sure
report,
but
again
I'm
quite
familiar
with
it.
I
know
the
guys
who
wrote
it.
I
know
them
and
it's
a
wonderful
report.
It's
aspirational.
It's
inspirational
about
a
more
robust
or
more
integrated
approach
to
water
management
in
rosemont
and
in
in
in
other
places
again
the
idea
of
of
the
living
shoreline
off
the
front
of
the
battery
again,
they
would
acknowledge
sure
would
acknowledge
the
destiny,
not
that's
not
going
to
reduce
surge.
E
E
You
know
it
shows
you
how
creative
designers
can
be,
but
they
weren't
engineered,
so
the
army
corps
of
engineers
can't
respond
to
that.
It's
what
I
said
the
bob
is,
unless
you
have
performance
data,
some
performance
data.
E
This
is
a
military
organization.
It
is
you
know
it
is
there.
They
are
going
to
tell
you
what
they
can
do
and
they're
not
going
to
promise
you
what
they
can't
do,
that's
a
risk
for
them,
and
I
can't
I
can't
that's
how
they
are.
I
wish
it
were
otherwise,
but
this
is
what
they
are,
and
google
and
chase
you
know,
chase
bank
and
jp
morgan's
face
and
new
core
steel
corporation.
They
do
the
exact
same
thing,
they're
very
careful
with
their
due
diligence,
what
they
say
in
public.
E
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
it's
unfair
to
say
that
that
we
haven't
addressed
the
questions
on
rosemont
herbert
you
sent
us
eight
questions
or
nine
questions
and
they
were
submitted
to
the
army
corps
and
they
were
answered
in
writing.
If
there
are
more
questions,
then
let's
have
them.
Okay,
we
want
them
because
I
think
that's
important.
The
city
wants
these
answers
and
we're
trying
to
be
as
responsible,
responsive
as
we
can
to
to
rosemont.
E
The
thing
that
is
being
misunderstood
about
rose
line
is,
if
you
build
a
wall
around
rosemont
like
you're,
building
a
wall
around
the
peninsula,
you
will
impound
water.
That
means
you're
going
to
create
the
bathtub
effect.
It's
because
of
how
rosemont
and
topography
and
rosemont
exist,
because
there's
no
gras
there's
no
pump,
there's
no
human,
engineered
drainage
up
there
with
pumps
and
pipes.
It
is
just
gravity.
E
E
E
E
We
are
trying
to
prevent
that.
Okay
and
if
you
build
it
into
the
marsh
you're
going
to
have
marsh
impacts
there,
which
is
going
to
be
a
detrimental
too.
So
the
sherwood
report
is
wonderful.
It's
aspirational!
It's
something
that
we
can
explore
in
ped,
but
there
are
some
limitations
to
what
the
sherwood
report
recommended,
because
they
don't
deal
with
surge
as
well
as
they
deal
with
the
more
comprehensive
approach
of
tidal
and
storm
water
and
future
groundwater
and
future
adaptation.
E
So
they
do
wonderful
things
there
and
I
will
not
critique
my
friends
at
sherwood,
but
but
with
surge
they
don't
perform
as
well
in
some
ways
and
we've
discussed
this,
so
I
I
you
know
I
I've
I'm
doing
the
best
I
can
with
your
community
and
we
are
doing
the
best.
We
can
to
explain
what
this
is
and
what
it
isn't.
If
I
were
king,
I
would
not
just
do
a
search
structure
in
rosemont.
I
would
do
an
integrated
plan,
which
is
what
hagood
recommended
on
your
behalf
to
city
council.
E
E
The
army
corps
is
not
authorized
to
do
storm
water
work;
they
are
just
not
that's,
because
storm
water
work
is
a
true
local
issue
regarding
land
use
and
planning,
and
zoning,
and
the
last
thing
that
congress
that
congress
would
do
and
most
local
and
state
legislators
would
be
for
would
be
saying.
Hey
the
congressman
from
maine
should
be
telling
the
folks
in
rosemont
how
they
should
design
their
community.
E
E
Happy
to
I
I
know
this
is
difficult
stuff.
I
know
I
mean
for
everyone.
I
I
said
that
yesterday,
when
we
talked
to
the
chamber,
you
know
the
engineers
have
their
own
shortcut,
language
and,
and
the
army
corps
has
its
own
shortcut
language
and
everything's
in
acronyms,
and
they
use
these
little
sayings
and
the
common
person
like
you
and
me
we're
like
what
are
you
talking
about?
E
We
don't
understand
them,
so
my
job
is
to
help
translate
this
so
that
we
can
all
understand
this,
and
I
am
I
am
telling
you
I
am
happy
to
come
out
to
your
community
to
talk
to
anyone
at
any
moment.
That's
my
pledge
to
you.
B
B
B
Perception
is
as
to
evaluating
other
options
as
with
on
their
plan
road.
That's
what
we
do
in
pad
mountain.
It
seems
a
lot
of
dale
rose.
Mountain
receives
a
lot
of
flooding,
I'm
talking
to
residents
practically
every
other
day
and
they're,
telling
me
about
the
the
flooding
that
comes
up
to
their
property
and
beyond.
B
B
E
Rose
one
has
a
number
of
flooding
challenges.
It
does
I
mean
it.
You
know
it's
got
a
tile
challenge
and
we
talked
about
that
a
couple
weeks
ago.
It's
got
a
storm
water
challenge,
a
rainfall
challenge
right
and
drainage
challenge.
It's
got
this
new
challenge
that
seems
to
be
coming
from
the
sound
wall
that
was
constructed
for
the
highway
behind
there
and
that's
displacing
water.
It's
got
number
of
challenges
and
they
need
to
be
approached
in
an
integrated
way.
The
army
corps
of
engineers
does
not
have
authority
or
funding
to
deal
with
that.
E
So
it's
on
the
city,
the
rest
of
the
city,
to
come
up
with
a
plan
that
would
take
the
surge
risk
reduction,
responsibility
from
the
army
for
engineers
and
then
use
city
resources
to
manage
and
develop
a
plan
to
manage
your
stormwater
challenge,
your
title
challenge
and
your
groundwater
challenge
and
your
compound
flight
challenge
in
addition
to
your
surge
risk.
So
that's
what
this
resilience
plan
would
try
to
accomplish.
E
Okay,
so
if
if
the
citizens
in
rosemont
are
asking
the
corps
of
engineers
to
put
pumps
and
pipes
under
the
ground
to
help
with
storm
water,
but
don't
worry
about
the
surgeries,
the
army
corps
cannot
do
that.
They
they
just
they're
they're,
not
authorized
to
do
that
congress
unless
it
gives,
unless
congress
gives
them
the
authority
to
do
storm
water
work.
E
E
E
That
that's
one
thing
and
the
second
thing
about
flexibility.
E
E
E
The
engineering
and
design
that
we
need
to
do
to
see
what's
possible
and
what
its
impact
will
be,
how
much
risk
it's
going
to
reduce
and
what
benefits
it
might
provide
and
what
it's
going
to
cost
and
if
it
falls
within
the
realm
of
the
possible
of
ped,
then
we
do
it
I
mean,
then
then
we
can
do
it
and
and
again
it's
we
don't
know
until
we
until
we
step
into
pad
so
flexibility
of
the
army
corps
engineers.
I
just
gave
the
example
there
seemed
to
be.
E
You
know:
an
intractable
division
of
opinion
between
the
army
corps
of
engineers
and
and
the
port
for
union
care
terminal
and
columbus
terminal
until
we
sort
of
pushed
hard
on
and
have
them
resolve
it
and
they're
working
now
and
there
looks
like
they're
resolving
it,
and
if
you
want
to
talk
about
a
big
move,
a
big
flex
be
a
big
show
of
flexibility
to
move
the
line
of
protection,
the
surge
wall,
alignment
off
of
washington
and
and
off
of
east
bay
street.
E
A
E
A
Thank
you
all
right
dan.
I
know
we
didn't
get
to
you.
Was
that
was
your
hand
up
specific
to
to
dale?
Was
it
a
question.
I
Yeah
well,
I
just
want
to
say-
and
I
I'm
more
than
happy
to
share
it
with
my
fellow
committee
members.
Clearly
it
would
have
been
more
directed
to
dale,
but
obviously,
with
the
talks
of
flexibility.
I
I
want
to
urge
the
rest
of
the
committee
members
in
hearing
about
the
rosemont
issue
and
then
especially
with
dale
talking
about
you,
know
the
push
that
we
made
to
get
flexibility
out
of
the
core
which,
by
the
way
we
don't
know
if
that's
going
to
come
to
fruition
or
not.
I
think
we,
as
a
committee
need
to
push
to
say
look.
Rosemont
is
a
complex
situation
and
it's
a
community
that
needs
to
be
protected
and
right
now
it
doesn't
seem
as
though
the
core
solution
is
going
to
do
that.
I
I
think
we
need
to
push
hard
and
if
it
means
pushing
on
the
city
itself
and
not
the
core,
we
need
to
do
that,
and
I
know
that
we
have
another
opportunity
to
make
a
recommendation:
hey
good
and
I'm
not
making
right
now
a
formal
motion,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
it
up
for
discussion.
I
What
are
we
going
to
do
to
put
on
more
pressure
to
make
sure
that
the
rosemont
community
is
being
properly
protected
and
that
they
are
properly
integrated
into
what
needs
to
get
done
for
protection?
Because
clearly
and
look
dale
admitted
it?
It's
a
complex
situation.
Right,
I
mean
it
definitely
has
its
nuances,
but
if
what
dale
is
telling
us
is
that
the
the
core
was
flexible
because
we
put
pressure
on
them
with
respect
to
union,
pier
and
columbus
terminal,
why
don't
we
put
pressure
on
them
on
every
area
of
the
city
like?
I
In
other
words,
you
know,
let's,
let's
continue
to
push
hard
until
they
give
us
what
they
want.
I
just
don't
understand
why
that's
such
a
difficult
conversation.
A
Yeah
then
I'll
disagree
with
you
and
then
you
know
along
those
same
lines
I
mean
the
first
great
example.
Right
I
mean
it's
a
great.
You
know
it's
a
perfect
example.
You
know
in
the
technology
knowledge
that
hey
these
are
areas
that
we
just
didn't
devote
enough
time
to,
you
know
require
more
study.
I
think,
as
specifically,
it
says
so
anyway,
point
point
being
that
there
are
other
areas
that
I
get
calls
from
from
major
stakeholders
that
aren't
represented
here,
that
you
know
say
to
them.
A
Hey,
you
know
I'll
get
in
touch
with.
I
don't
you
know,
make
those
introductions
get
in
touch
with.
You
know
the
army
corps,
but
yeah.
I
think
you
raise
a
great
point.
A
I
I
I'd
like
to
have
general
if
he
is
a
general
general
kelly,
I'd
like
us
to
have
an
audience
with
him,
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
great.
First
of
all,
I
commend
dale
for
moving
up
the
chain
of
command,
and
if
that
individual
is
someone
that
we
can
bend
their
ear,
then
let's,
I
think
we
need
to
push
to
have
that
opportunity
to
have
general
kelly
address
this
committee
so
that
we
can
properly
share
our
concerns
with
him
as
well.
F
Quick
update
mr
chair
on
the
rosemont
front
from
the
city's
perspective
herbert
you
reached
out
last
night
about
the
upcoming
community
meeting
this
saturday.
I
think
you
saw
your
looped
in
the
army
corps
of
engineers.
The
city
will
be
coming
out
to
the
community
center
this
saturday
at
the
request
at
four
o'clock,
so
that
will
be
happening
this
saturday.
F
Obviously
the
chair
put
forth
the
rosemont
resiliency
recommendation
to
council,
and
you
know
it's
the
kitty
committee
now
to
put
forth
the
further
recommendations
for
if
your
date
is
set
for
the
ninth
and
as
dale
said
dan,
we
can
certainly
reach
out
to
the
army
corps
to
see
if,
if
the
committee's
wish
is
to
see
if
we
could
get
him,
the
next
scheduled
meeting
of
the
committee
is
november
3rd
to
see
if
you
all
would
like
to
have
him,
and
maybe
any
other
people
from
the
army
corps
team
on
the
call,
just
let
us
know
and
and
we'll
reach
out
and
as
dale
also
mentioned,
hey
good.
F
You
know,
as
the
stakeholders
reach
out
to
you,
as
you
did
over
the
past
few
weeks,
you
let
us
know
and
we're
setting
up
meetings
and
engaging.
So
so
that's
just
this
update
as
far
as
our
engagement
efforts
and
upcoming
meetings
and
things
of
that
nature
so
continue
to,
let
us
know
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
engage
on
that.
But
as
far
as
logistics
and
decisions
for
this
committee,
you
know
you're
set
for
november
9th
for
the
recommendations.
F
A
Thanks
thanks
caitlin,
so
susan
I'll
get
to
your
question,
but
I
do
want
to
make
the
point
the
specific
agenda
today.
You
know
we
had
some
discussion
regarding
natural
nature,
nature
based
features.
However,
I
think
this
discussion
was
productive.
It
was
a
great
chance
to
decompress
on
where
we
are
and
where
we're
going,
and
you
know
it
was
a
little
bit
loose
as
far
as
batting
around
questions
and
answers,
but
they're
all
very
relevant
and
I
think
they're
all
items
needed
to
they've
merited
further
discussion.
A
That
said,
we
are
about
15
minutes
out
at
the
moment.
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
number
one
is:
is
susan
get
you
and
your
question
and
after
that
you
know,
leave
everybody
with
the
charge
of
you
know.
Take
another
look
at
at
dale's.
You
know
remaining
recommendations
from
dale's
email
and
you
know
coming
prepared
to
discuss
that
and
I'll
send
that,
as
well
as
the
yo
youtube
link
and
and
notes
as
well.
A
C
Thank
you.
I
want
to
back
up
what
dan
said
about
rosemont
I've
gone
to
one
meeting
on
saturday
and
I'm
going
again
this
coming
saturday,
and
I
wanted
to
suggest
that
anybody
who
has
not
anybody
in
our
committee
who
hasn't
actually
gone
to
rosemont
and
driven
around
would
benefit
from
that.
I'm
sorry,
we
don't
have
more
people
on
the
call.
C
It
really
drives
home
what
the
problem
is
there
and
it
is
really
complicated,
and
it
strikes
me
that
the
city
has
a
big
responsibility
there,
where
the
army
corps
cannot
respond,
and
I
think
that
that
was
at
least
part
of
our
thinking
in
promoting
a
complete
city-wide
water
plan.
That
would
indeed
incorporate
what
rosemont
needs
from
the
city.
C
The
rosemont
community
deserves
better
than
it
seems
to
be
getting
at
the
moment
and
I
think
that's
herbert's
concern
and-
and
it's
also
the
concern
of
the
members
of
the
community
who
have
lived
there
and
suffered
with
flooding
in
an
unimaginable
way.
It's
embarrassing
that
the
city
of
charleston
can't
do
better
by
that
community.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out.
There.
A
And
I'll
add
the
resiliency
study
too.
You
mentioned
the
water
plant
susan,
but
the
resilience
study.
You
know
additional
what
you
said.
You
know
it's
it's
a
lot
of
stuff.
It's
you
know
the
storm
surge
is
just
a
toured
rose
one.
I
saw
a
lot
of
issues
with
water
management
personally
and
just
general
storm
water
infrastructure.
You
know
on
the
north
northern
end,
I
forget
the
intersection,
but
there's
a
there's,
an
empty
line
on
the
northern
end
adjacent
park.
That
was
fully
fully
flooded,
something
that
yeah
it
just
it.
C
Right-
and
it
just
makes
your
heart
ache-
that
people
who
are
living
there
have
to
get
up
every
morning
and
face
that
it
isn't
fair.
It
isn't
right,
so
we
really
should
take
that
on
as
a
city.
A
Let's
say
agreed
councilmember,
where
I
saw
you.
G
Yeah
I've
been
going
back
and
forth
with
the
chairman
and
that
you
know
I'll
have
my
chance
to
talk,
obviously
with
council
and
all
of
that.
But
you
know
the
first
time
I
heard
about
the
financial
strategy
was
this
morning
I
mean
that's
the
first
very
first
time.
I
heard
that
and
it's
amazing
you're
going
to
go
to
certain
stakeholders
and
ask
some
money
but
they're,
not
part
of
the
process.
G
If
you're
going
to
go
to
the
state
and
ask
for
you
know
100
million
dollars,
are
you
going
to
go
to
the
county
and
ask
for
100?
I
mean
25
million
dollars
shouldn't
somebody
from
the
county
have
been
on.
This
committee
is
the
means,
and
this
financial
plan
is
coming
up
as
as
this
head
question
is
coming
before.
G
Council
we've
had
a
longer
year
put
together
financial
plan
and
anyway,
the
timing
of
it
sounds
a
little
bit
like
jello
up
against
the
wall,
trying
to
get
gel
and
stick
up
against
the
wall,
we're
going
to
go
to
the
state
for
100
million.
I
hope
we
get.
I
hope
we
get
200,
okay,
we're
going
to
go
to
the
county
and
get
25
million.
I
hope
we
get
50
million
okay
and
then
we
got
this
new
bond.
That's
coming
up
and
they've
got
this
mid
tax.
G
G
I've
never
even
heard
I
didn't.
I
don't
even
think
that
it's
legal
in
south
carolina,
but
I
got
to
be
frank
if
I
was
in
the
general
assembly-
I'd
submit
a
bill
in
january.
I
I've
never
heard
think
about
any
tax
that
you
pay.
If
your
income
stays
the
same,
that
you're
gonna
have
a
two
percent
increase
every
year.
G
You
know
we
need
to
I'm
looking
forward
to
you
to
the
presentation,
I'm
glad
you
all
asked
for
alan
davis's
portion
to
be
presented,
but
the
same
question
that
herbert
has
bayside
manor
or
bridgeview.
I
think
it's
called
now.
Bridgeview
apartments,
that's
300!
G
Low-Income
families,
that's
outside
the
wall,
that's
on
the
other
side
of
the
peninsula
off
of
morrison
drive.
If
I'm
curious,
that
this
side
is
out
and
and
bridge
view
is
out
and
rules,
mount
is
out,
there's
some
very
interesting
symmetry
there.
That's
all.
I
could
think
so.
We
need
a
big
comprehensive
push
for
revenue
and
to
do
that,
you
have
to
include
other
stakeholders.
I
guess
this
is
a
preload
too.
G
I
may
be
in
the
minority
on
council
on
this.
I
don't
know,
but
when
this
water
flows
it
just
doesn't
flow
in
the
city
of
charleston.
You
know
this
comprehensive
approach
that
the
city
is
going
to
shoulder
by
itself.
I
just
think
we
can
do
better
than
that.
I
think
there's
a
better
solution
out
here
than
a
partial
wall
or
a
partial
wall
or
a
you
know,
comprehensive
water,
plane
and-
and
I
hope
the
catalyst
in
this
committee
and
helped
us
to
get
towards
that.
G
It
wasn't
the
city
of
charleston's
problem
by
itself
when
we
needed
a
second
way
to
get
to
mount
pleasant
and
we
needed
a
a
bridge
over
the
wando
that
wasn't
my
pleasant
problem
by
itself.
It
wasn't
a
north
charleston
problem
by
itself,
so
when.
G
Our
water
supply
comes
from
up
and
hannah
here
you
know
it's
a
eddystone
river
up
there.
You
think
the
stormwater
surge
is
going
to
stop
at
the
battery.
Should
we
get
a
hurricane.
So
if
that
storm
water
surge
goes
all
the
way
up
to
cooper,
it
can
encroach
on
our
water
supply
salt,
water
intrusion
into
a
fresh
water.
Water
supply
shouldn't
cpw
be
around.
So
you
have
this
big
storm.
We
have
this
wall
that
protects
the
peninsula,
the
surge.
There
are
a
lot
of
stakeholders
in
this
process.
G
Is
that
they're
subject
to
disagree
with
me
and
I
think
that
disagreement
believe
it
or
not
lends
to
a
more
comprehensive
solution
to
a
problem
that
affects
us
all
and
until
we
this
shouldn't
be
a
charleston
against
the
rest
of
us.
This
region,
charleston,
doesn't
have
the
best
ideas.
G
We've
got
some
thinking
on
it,
but
I
certainly
include
everybody
who
thinks
you
know
we
got
us.
We
can
be
solution
oriented
to
cure
flooding,
drainage,
water
problems,
basically,
water
problems
that
we
face,
like
no
other
state
in
this
city
and
there's
no
other
city
in
this
state
right
now,
and
how
do
we
get
to
some
solution
that
gets
us
there?
A
manipulative
initially
we
needed
600
million.
Now
it's
been
adjusted
down
to
we
now
needing
300
and
some
odd
million,
and
is
that
plan
the
best
plan
anyway?
G
So
you
can
send
some
of
the
frustration
in
myself.
I
think
we
go
for
the
best
and
we
go
for
the
comprehensive
funding,
but
to
do
it
to
do
that.
You're
gonna
have
to
include
additional
stakeholders
to
get
the
level
of
revenue
that
we
need,
but
when
you
include
other
stakeholders,
they
have
other
ideas
as
well.
G
It
was
great
to
have
steve
poach
authority
on
this.
You
know
committee
great
to
have
a
herbert
maybank
on
all.
You
all
have
done
wonderful
jobs,
but
there's
some
other
stakeholders
out
there
and,
in
my
opinion,
need
to
be
part
of
this
process.
If
you're
going
to
get
to
the
eventual
solution
that
helps
us
all
so
anyway,
and
you
all
can
play
a
part
in
that
as
well.
Realizing.
C
G
After
storms,
what
happens
if
our
water
supply
gets
contaminated
because
salt
water
intrusion
goes
up
there
into
the
fresh
water
supply
into
the
eddy
stuff?
You
know
so
anyway,
I'm
I'm!
That's
I'm
off
my
track
there.
So
I
got
a
little
angst
when
I
began
to
hear
I'm.
I
am
firm
that
I'm
not
the
only
councilmember
who
heard
that
potentially
for
the
first
time-
and
I
think
there's
only-
I
think
I
see
council
lady
jackson
on
here,
but
I
always
suspect
out
of
12
of
us.
G
I
don't
know
that.
There's
a
majority
of
us
that's
heard
about
what
was
presented
this
morning.
So
please
stay
centered
and
when
it
comes
to
how
we're
gonna
pay
for
this-
and
we
need
fundamentals.
G
Not
not
hyperbole.
A
G
Let
me
give
you,
let
me
give
an
example.
I
I
just
as
a
result
of
that
I
made
a
couple
calls
up
to
the
county.
I
I'm
waiting
on
people
to
call
me
back,
but
you
all
made
me
remember
when
they
had
a
a
real
bad
earthquake
and
chime
and
kids
got
killed
in
the
school
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
As
a
result,.
G
On
the
peninsula-
and
you
know,
we
got
an
earthquake
fault
running
through
the
peninsula,
and
the
school
district
came
to
basically
the
community
and
said
we
need
to
raise.
I
think
it
was
600
million
or
whatever
it
was
to
redo
manager,
redo
abuse,
the
number
of
schools
on
the
peninsula,
were
they
all
now
rebuilt
okay,
and
there
was
a
another
penny
tax
for
that,
but
it
was
for
a
shorter
period
of
time.
G
G
If
that
penny
tax
is
about
to
come
back
roll
off,
basically,
then
that's
some
funding
that
wow.
I
think
we
should
go
at
with
a
vengeance.
You'd
be
shocked
with
a
half.
A
penny
does
well.
E
G
Penny
the
last
one
I
think
generates
in
charleston
county
generated
by
2.4
billion
dollars,
so
the
ability
is
there.
I
don't
know
if
our
process
right
now
gets
us
there,
but
the
drainage
problems
and
susan
just
related
to
that.
It's
a
shame
that
rosemount
has
to
undergo
that
herbert
is
right,
susan's
right,
everybody's
right
on
it.
You
know
this
thing
about
not
having
the
money
to
do.
We
have
never
had
a
comprehensive
push
and
we
don't
have
the
rim,
our
cfo.
We
have
a
workshop
today
budget
workshop
today.
G
As
far
as
our
staff,
she
sent
us
the
paper
127
a.m.
This
morning
this
lady
got
a
family
and
she's
up
cranking
out
work,
sending
it
out
to
council
people
for
us
to
review
she's
already
put
on
full
day's
work,
12
or
7
a.m.
G
She
said
that
we
got
dedicated
staff,
but
they
are
flat
out
working
their
tongues
out,
so
that
comprehensive
approach
is
going
to
take
more
than
city
influence.
We.
I
G
I'll
take
up
with
the
meal,
but
the
more
you
all
know
the
more
you
all
can
help
and
I'm
not
saying
that
the
picture
night,
I
I
told
you,
mr
chairman,
I
thought
you
all.
You
did
a
good
job
so
far
because
it's
been
a
respectful
environment.
People
speak
one
at
a
time.
It's
not
crossing
over
one
another
arguing!
That's
what's
propelled
this
effort
forward
to
where
we
are
today,
and
I
commend
you
again
for
doing
that,
and
the
committee
members
continue
to
look
forward
to
work
with
you
on
this
one
anyway.
G
A
My
pleasure,
thank
you,
councilmember
yeah.
Thank
you
greatly.
I
know
we're
we're
up
on
time
and
it
looks
like
dan
and
susan
have
a
couple
of
questions.
I
I
unfortunately
have
a
hard
stop,
but
that
definitely
does
not
encourage
everybody
that
has
time
on
the
police
stay
on
and.
I
Well,
so
I
mean
hey
good,
I
I
know
susan,
I'm
I'm
sorry,
but
at
this
point
I
think
we're
down
to
four
committee
members,
so
I
mean
yeah
yeah
yeah.
No,
we
are.
I.
I
Well,
I
mean
put
its
way.
It
looks
like
our
our
time
is
up,
so
I'm
gonna
jump
off,
but
I
will
say
this.
I
think
that
you
know
I'm
gonna
end
on
this.
One
thing
for
the
four
of
us
in
regard
to
what
I
just
heard
from
councilman
wearing
and
understanding
what
we're
dealing
with
rosemont
and
I
know
we're
dealing
with
the
army
corps,
but
maybe
we
should
take
out
a
page
out
of
the
marines
book
and
leave
no
marine
behind.
I
think
that
we
got
to
look
at
every
single
community.
I
A
Oh,
I
I
agree,
and-
and
things
like
this
are
good
again
to
decompress
workshop
tomorrow-
please
everybody
look
at
those
recommendations
from
the
email
they'll
tune
out
and
look
forward
to,
because
we'll
are
we
right
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting?
Is
that
the.
F
C
I
just
had
a
quick
point
to
the
councilman's
discussion.
There
is
a
state-level
flood,
commissioner,
and
I
don't
know
whether
we
are
in
touch
with
him.
D
E
C
F
Maybe
not
in
the
next
24
hours,
but
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
also
kind
of
put
some
bullets
of
where
we
are
with
engagement.
You
know
for
the
committee
too,
so
if
that's
helpful
for
you
to
understand,
I
think
you
know
dale's
been
giving
the
update
each
week,
but
if
it's
kind
of
a
synopsis
of
who
we've
been
chatting
with
engaging
with
that
request,
I
can
do
that,
but.
F
I'll,
just
I
will
do
the
plug
for
folks
to
tune
into
the
workshop
tomorrow,
either
in
person.
It
will
be
also
beyond
in
the
ballroom
at
the
gilliard
or
it
will
be
on
the
city's
youtube.
So
it's
a
hybrid,
we'll
be
socially
distance.
Gilliard
does
require
vaccinate
vaccination,
proof
or
negative
tests,
just
if
you're
planning
to
join
in
person,
but
we'll
be
there
and
we
hope
to
see
some
of
your
faces
there.
Tomorrow.