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City of Charleston Army Corps 3x3 Advisory Committee 3/29/23
A
B
You
I'll,
Echo
and
Kalyn
said
certainly
appreciate
it
been
a
good
two-year
stretch
here
and
excited
to
see
progress,
moving
forward,
yeah
and
just
a
big
thank
you
to
everybody.
B
No
major
updates
on
my
inside
from
what
Kailyn
said,
I
think
exciting,
we'll
see,
I
think
the
mayor's
gonna
have,
let's
see
if
we
can
get
into
that
now.
Gail.
Do
you
want
to
mind
walking
through
kind
of
process
for
going
forward
for
what
the
committee
makeup
will
be
and
the
information
they
can
do
instead
of
other
notes,
some
what
things
look
like.
C
I
can
do
that
so
so,
there's
a
few
things
so
I
think
most
most
folks
on
the
committee
conveyed
that
they'd
like
to
continue
their
terms.
I
think
we
only
have
two
folks
that
will
be
looking
for
new
representation.
C
C
If
you
are
interested
in
becoming
the
chair
for
the
next
at
minimum
a
year,
we
also
are
going
to
be
just
tweaks,
updating
the
ordinance
that
oversees
the
committee,
because
we're
no
longer
actually
in
a
study
phase,
we're
not
anymore
in
the
three
by
three,
so
we're
gonna
I
know:
we've
been
calling
ourselves
a
three
by
three
for
a
long
time,
so
it'll
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
to
get
over,
not
calling
this
a
three
by
three
process,
but
we
are
no
longer
with
that
Chiefs
report
signed.
C
So
so,
the
ordinance
is
really
just
going
to
be
updated
to
reflect
where
we're
at
with
the
project
and
and
we'll
we'll
share
that
as
we
get
it
back
from
legal
and
before
it
goes
to
city,
council
and
all
as
well,
so
that
that's
really
it
once
we
have
that
new
ordinance,
then
we'll
we'll
look
to
get
the
committee
reset
in
place
over
the
next
time
and
I
think
we'll
be
looking
at
changing
just
to
reflect
the
status
of
the
project.
C
C
That
and
I'll
send
out
the
notes
and
the
ordinance
kind
of
edits
as
well.
So
that's
where
the
committee
structure
and
process
as
we're
moving
forward
with
with
the
project
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
that
we
can
save
it
towards
the
end,
because
I
know
we
got
some
updates
from
Dale
and
Jordy.
So
I
know
we
want
to
move
forward
with.
That
is.
Is
that,
okay
for
an
update,
Mr,
chair,
yeah.
B
Absolutely
thank
you
very
much,
no
appreciate
that,
and,
and
with
that
and
again
with
time
in
mind,
I'll
hand
over
to
Dale,
to
talk
about
the
the
three
by
three
study
going
forward.
The
city,
water
plan,
Rosemont,
resilience,
plan,
sea
level
rise
strategy.
D
Yeah
great
thanks
so
just
to
make
a
segue
from
what
Haygood
and
Caitlyn
just
said,
so
the
ordinance
references
in
a
lot
of
places,
the
three
by
three
and
the
feasibility
and
all
those
things
in
in
essence,
those
things
are
done
because
in
fact
the
feasible
phase
is
completed.
It
is
no
longer
a
study.
It
was
not
quite
a
three
by
three
by
three:
that's
a
federal
three
years,
three
levels
review
three
million
dollars.
We
actually
had
a
four
by
four
by
three
so
about
four.
D
Remember
the
city
didn't
spend
one
penny
on
that,
except
for
staff
time
four
million
dollars
four
years
because
of
the
Eis
that
was
needed
and
then
the
three
levels
of
review.
So
we
have
to
tidy
up
the
ordinance
language
to
reflect
that
we're
in
the
next
phase
and
we
just
have
to
think
of
a
Peninsula
perimeter
protection,
some
sort
of
thing
we
can
reference.
D
So
the
committee
has
a
focus
in
the
ordinance
language,
so
everything
will
be
fine,
but
just
keep
in
mind
that
we're
working
with
legal
to
get
that
updated,
but
we
don't
anticipate
any
jurisdiction
or
topical
changes,
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
ordinance
reflects
where
we
are
with
the
process.
D
So,
as
noted
feasibly
phase
was
formally
completed
at
the
end
of
December,
when
the
Congress
passed,
the
2022
Water
Resources
development
act
bill
and
the
president
signed
it
authorizing
the
project
to
go
forward
into
the
next
phase.
The
next
phase
is
pre-construction
engineering
and
design
and
construction,
but
you
can't
get
to
construction
until
you
have
a
completed
ped
phase,
pre-construction
engineering
design,
so
that
is
the
next
phase
again.
The
sign
Chase
report
is
available.
It
just
summarizes
what
was
going
on
again.
D
The
the
project
is
authorized
in
Congress
also
provided
to
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
13
million
dollars
in
an
appropriation
to
start
phase,
one
of
ped
so
where
that
leaves
us
now
is
before
we
can
start
ped
the
city
non-federal
sponsor
and
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
need
to
negotiate
a
design
agreement.
D
The
Army
Corps
has
a
standard
template
design
agreement
that
they
use,
which
can
be
amended
and,
in
our
case,
will
be
amended
to
make
sure
that
we
have
some
or
strong
input
on
design
and
trying
to
frame
these
terms
you
know:
do
we
have
design
input,
design
management
or
design
control?
These
are
things
that
are
all
possible
within
existing
federal
policy.
D
Each
of
those
has
levels
of
opportunity
and
levels
of
liability.
We
have
to
work
through
very
carefully
and
just
to
explain
that
if
what
that
means
is,
if
we
just
say
we
want
design
input,
we
would
want
to
make
sure
that
the
Army
Corps
Engineers
has
to
listen
to
what
we
say.
Besides
us
threatening
to
walk
away
from
the
project
right,
we
always
have
that
Leverage
we're
not
going
to
fund
the
next
year.
D
They
can't
go
forward
with
us,
so
that's
always
the
sort
of
stick
that
we
have
no
matter
what,
but
what
we
want
to
have
a
collaborative
Cooperative
relationship
with
them.
So
you
know
what
does
input
mean
and
what
can
we
contribute?
That
would
be
the
sort
of
the
lowest
level
of
engagement.
D
That
sounds
wonderful.
The
challenge
for
that
is.
We
would
have
to
do
everything
that
the
Army
Corps
does
in
this
process,
which
we
would
mean
would
probably
have
to
staff
up
10
or
15
folks
on
on
City
staff.
To
do
this
right,
so
we're
determining
right
now
exactly
what
level
of
input,
control
or
management
that
we
want.
Then
how
do
we
do
that
as
a.
B
D
Just
as
an
update
yesterday,
Kailyn
and
I
so
I've
had
various
conversations
with
Army
Corps
staff
over
the
last
couple
months
about
this,
as
well
as
with
other
folks
external
to
the
project
who
know
a
bit
about
input,
management
and
control
of
ped.
D
We
had
a
very
good
meeting
yesterday
with
the
Army
Corps
staff
here,
Kate
and
I
did
about
how
we
proceed
with
this
design
agreement,
negotiation,
very
favorable
or
positive
discussions.
The
Army
Corps
District
staff
understand
completely
how
why
we
would
want
to
have
input
or
control
or
management
over
this
over
the
design.
D
Again,
there
are
some
technical
components
to
the
study
that
that
we
really
don't
have
to
do
sort
of
the
Geotech,
the
subsurface
some
of
the
foundational
work
that
would
underpin
the
design
of
a
structure.
So
we
are
now
discussing
with
the
core
exactly
what
that
looks
like,
and
we
are
also
waiting
for
some
outside
advice
that
I
have
solicited
to
give
us
to
give
us
a
better
sense
of
the
opportunities
and
liabilities
with
each
with
each
of
these.
So
that's
underway.
There's
really
nothing!
D
There's
really
nothing
to
report.
It's
just
going
to
take
some
time
to
to
do
this.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
there
is
storm
water
integration
with
this
process.
So
in
the
design
process
we
integrate
our
store
storm
water
management
infrastructure,
maybe
get
some
betterments
to
improve
that
infrastructure,
with
the
feds
paying
65
percent
of
it.
So
those
are
things
we're
also
going
to
try
to
work
through
in
the
design
agreement.
It's
going
to
take
some
time.
D
So
that's
good
further
on
some
other
cities
that
are
in
this
process
with
the
Army
Corps
Engineers
are
curious.
That.
D
In
fact,
we,
the
the
district
here
and
I,
was
invited
to
go
to
St
Augustine
Florida,
where
they
are
kicking
off
a
three
by
three
by
three
feasibility
study
for
Coastal
storm
mismanagement,
and
we
had
a
large
role
in
that
meeting,
and
this
was
primarily
with
Army
Corps
staff
and
Saint
Augustine
staff
about
how
you
do
this.
So
we
have
accidentally
stumbled
onto
something
that
other
people
are
watching.
So
that's
really
good
and
I
think
the
committee
has
some
you
all.
D
The
committee
has
some
role
in
this
one
of
the
things
that
catering
and
I
learned
yesterday
and
it
was,
it-
was
a
slap
to
the
forehead
when
we
heard
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
in
feasibility.
That's
part
of
the
final
report
is
there's
an
mou
on
Aesthetics
for
the
project,
so
there's
a
memorable
understanding
between
the
city
and
the
core
on
things
we
have
to
do
for
Aesthetics.
D
So
this
is
the
first
of
its
kind
mou
that
the
corps
has
ever
done
and
it
is,
is
they
as
they
called
it?
It
is
Cutting,
Edge
and
innovative.
So
we
didn't
know
that
this
was
the
first
of
a
kind.
We
had
assumed
that
it
happened
before.
D
Indicative
that
we
have
a
sensitive
project
that
needs
some
something
more
than
just
base
engineering
and
the
core
of
engineers
is
trying
to
accommodate
us
so
that
that
was
good
and
then
one
thing
I
want
to
do
now
is
Jordy
on
the
phone
Jordy.
Are
you
there?
Yes,
you're
under
the
Ports
Authority.
F
Camera
this
morning,
I
hate
that
Cody
said
I'm
here,
good.
D
Great,
so
the
union
peer
Redevelopment,
of
course,
is
in
the
alignment,
reunion,
fear
or
the
Army
Core
surge
structure
is
in
the
alignment
or
the.
D
Of
the
Army
Core
star
structure
is
on
Union
Pier
property,
Dan
and
his
crew
and
Jordy,
and
and
the
the
folks
that
they've
hired
to
help
them
work
through
preparing
that
that
PUD
they
have
taken
into
accounts,
surge
protection
and
title
management,
as
well
as
storm
water
management
in
in
their
preparations.
It's
been
a
very
open
and
transparent
relationship
between
me
and
the
engineering
firms
that
they
hired
to
do
this.
D
So
that's
very
good,
but
I
thought
Jordy
should
just
update
you
all
regarding
the
surge
protection
and
title
protection
that
they
have
developed.
So
you
are
aware
of
that.
One
thing
that
we
would
have
to
do
is
just
to
make
sure
that
in
PED
in
phase
three,
which
is
the
side,
we
would
make
sure
the
tie-in
between
what
low
and
Union
peer
are
doing
works
well
with
what
the
Corps
of
Engineers
and
the
city
would
do
for
the
search
structure.
F
Together
so
yeah
Dale
asked
me
to
just
give
a
brief
overview
on
the
Union
Pier
Project
Specific
to
you
know
the
water
impacts,
and
so
some
of
you
I
think
maybe
came
to
the
planning
commission's
workshop
on
resiliency,
which
was
held
I,
think
that
was
just
last
week.
Dan
helped
me.
F
The
weeks
are
running
together
these
days,
but
briefly,
you
all
know
the
Sherwood
team
they
presented
to
this
committee
before
they
have
studied
Charleston
prior
to
coming
on,
to
study
the
union
Pierre
project
for
us
and
they
looked
at
everything.
You
know
all
things:
water
as
it
relates
to
this
site
and
Kevin.
If
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide,.
F
Maybe
there
again
and
so
really
looking
at
it,
as
we've
discussed
in
a
comprehensive
strategic
way
for
managing
order,
they
looked
at
the
protection
barrier
that
we
all
are
talking
about
so
intently
study
day.
F
Flooding,
of
course,
is
addressed
a
raw
stormwater
management
and
using
some
green
infrastructure
aspects
to
it
and
then
the
next
slide,
and
then
what
you
all
want
to
really
see
is
how
it
all
connects
one
piece
of
this,
of
course-
and
you
know
I'm,
not
the
expert
here,
so
we
need
to
get
Jim
rendland
back
to
go
through
this
with.
You
are
more
detail,
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
F
So
basically
it
raises
the
site:
you'll
go
to
the
next
side,
Canon
to
where
the
center
of
the
site
is
15
feet
above
the
flood
zone,
so
not
15
feet
higher
than
what
it
is,
but
above
the
flood
zone
it
uses
the
existing
Piers
with
baffles
and
things
of
that
nature,
to
break
down
the
the
storm
surge
so
to
speak.
To
then
protect
the
property
during
a
storm
and
then
the
next
one
will
show
you
where
it
connects.
F
Okay,
so
you
know
we
all
discussed
at
link
the
alignment
on
the
port
property
for
the
for
the
Army
course
plan,
and
so
this
plan
that
dark
line
there
on
the
water
side
is
where
it
connects
on
the
North
End
and
the
South
and,
along
with
the
alignment
with
the
core.
So
as
Dale
said,
we've
been
in
constant
contact
with
him
at
the
city.
F
In
regards
to
this,
of
course,
if
there
were
any
changes
to
the
course
alignment
on
the
North
End,
there's
still
some
discussions
there,
we
could
adjust
there,
but
we
have
tied
it
in
basically
to
to
tap
into
where
the
core's
future
planned
wall
would
go
and
if
Dan
wants
to
chime
in
on
any
of
this,
please
feel
free
Also.
F
If
anyone
wants
the
full
presentation
on
this
project,
the
Jordy
and
Jacob
show
has
been
making
the
rounds
around
the
city
and
we're
happy
to
come
to
your
group
and
speak
to
you
directly
and
go
through
the
The
Proposal
in
more
detail.
But
this
is
just
a
snapshot
specifically
the
resilience
and
the
supporter
perimeter
production.
Excuse
me,
I,
can't
tell
if
this
one,
the
perimeter
protection
plan
that
we
have
in
place
for
the
project.
A
D
Yeah
Jim
Ramblin
is
a
is
the
gentleman
from
Sherwood
that
I've
known
for
quite
some
time
and
I?
Think
they've
done
really
good
work
here.
So
that's
good.
Just
as
a
technical
matter,
Jordy
said
15
feet,
that's
15
feet
main
logo
water,
which
is
approximately
12
foot
navd
88,
which
is
the
height
of
the
core
structure.
So
there
is,
we
always
get
mixed
up
between
land,
land,
atoms
and
and
watered
atoms.
But
that's
what
that
is.
D
It's
good,
so
that's
the
update
on
the
three
by
three
or
the
the
Charleston
Peninsula
study.
It's
no
longer
the
three
by
three
anyway
any
questions
about
what
I
presented
or
where
we
are
and
we're
trying
to
accomplish.
D
All
right
well
great,
regarding
the
water
plan,
the
city,
as
you
know,
you
all
recommended
at
the
end
of
2021
that
this
city
should
do
a
comprehensive
water
plan
to
understand
what
the
water
plan
team,
what
a
water
plant
team
may
can
think
is
needed
on
the
peninsula
and
elsewhere.
So
that
process,
as
you
know,
is
underway.
D
They've
briefed
you
at
the
start
of
the
process,
last
probably
last
September
or
October,
but
you
know
40
of
the
way
done
with
the
work,
data,
collection
and
sort
of
synthesis
of
all
the
other
plans.
That's
mostly
complete.
Some
of
that
will
still
occur
as
we
go
forward,
but
most
of
that
is
underway.
D
We
had
a
set
of
workshops
during
the
week
of
March
6th,
some
of
y'all
were
there,
and
we
appreciate
that
this
was
looking
at
sort
of
the
region
city-wide,
so
not
just
the
city
but
the
region
as
a
as
a
folk
area
and
then
city-wide
and
then
looking
at
the
peninsula
and
then
looking
at
Rosemont.
So
this
is
this
sort
of
staggered
effect
of
how
we
Nest
within
this
larger
body
of
water
and
landforms.
D
So
that's
really
good
Susan
and
Herbert
again
we're
there
and
the
goal
there
was
starting
with
Rosemont
was
to
try
to
understand
what
would
the
water
plan
recommend
for
a
community
like
Rosemont,
because
there
are
other
communities
like
Rosemont
in
other
parts
of
the
city?
So
we
looked
at
this.
That
Rose
as
Rosemont
is,
is
prototypical
that'll,
eventually
tee
up
some
of
the
work
for
the
resilience,
Rosemont
resilience
plan
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
second.
D
We
will
have
off
Peninsula
workshops
all
next
week,
so
we
are
going
to
spend
Monday
looking
at
inner
West
Ashley
Tuesday,
looking
at
James
Island
Wednesday,
looking
at
John's
Island
Thursday,
looking
at
outer
West
Ashley
and
Friday,
looking
at
Kate,
Moy
and
Daniel
Island,
the
water
pan
team
and
other
key
stakeholders
have
been
invited
to
locations
meeting
locations.
D
You
know
on
those
areas
in
those
places
and
we
will
work
with
those
stakeholders
show
them
what
we're
doing,
try
to
tee
up
some
questions
with
them
and
then
pick
up
some
good
information
from
them
of
how
they
see
the
problems
and
the
challenges
and
the
evolution
thereof
and
what
they
would
like
to
see.
D
So
that's
next
week
and
then
I
would
say,
probably
in
early
to
mid
May,
the
Waterfront
team
will
have
digested
or
ingested
all
the
information
they
have
collected
and
then
have
a
meeting
with
the
city,
and
we
can
arrange
one
with
this
committee
at
the
appropriate
time
just
to
show
you
where
they
are.
D
What
they're
considering
conclusion
sort
of
discuss
potential
Pilots
that
they've
sort
of
come
up
with
and
directions
regarding
you
know
the
the
defend,
protect,
Reserve,
adapt
and
grow
process
that
was
formulated
in
the
Land
and
Water
Analysis,
as
well
as
in
the
city
comprehensive
plan.
D
So
any
questions
about
the
water
plan,
they're
doing
good
work,
and
actually
we
installed
sorry
for
the
noise.
My
dog
is
banging
his
toy.
We
installed
three
groundwater
monitoring
Wells
on
the
peninsula,
one
in
colonial
Lake,
one
in
Cannon,
Park
and
one
right
next
to
City
Hall
on
High
Ground,
they're
worth
that.
D
If
that
those
monitoring
Wells
are
collecting
data
as
we
speak
and
we'll
have
good
seasonal
data
from
that
which
is
the
start
of
something
we
need
to
do
and
actually,
through
the
workshops
a
couple
weeks
ago,
we're
going
to
try
to
put
together
a
program,
a
groundwater
monitoring
program
with
the
College
of
Charleston.
So
the
students
can
do
the
work
and
learn
how
to
do
the
work
and
we
will
have
the
data.
So
that's
something!
That's
that's
pretty
important
for
us.
B
I
know
what
the
new
city
design
staff,
you
know
what
what
changes?
Does
that
look
like
going
for
I
know,
there's
been
whatever
different
different
concepts
or
thoughts,
probably
thrown
around
I'm,
guessing
the
new
design
staff,
which
usually
ends
up
being
the
case?
What
does
that
look
like
for
this
project?
The
perimeter
wall,
as
well
as
for
the
water
plan,
going
forward.
D
Are
you
referencing
the
300
Page
document
that
the
design
staff
put
together
over
the
course
of
the
three
by
three?
Yes,.
D
Great
starting
point,
the
Corps
of
Engineers
have
already
referenced
it
actually
in
our
meeting
yesterday,
the
planner
landscape
architect
on
the
at
the
Corps
of
Engineers,
referenced
it
all
to
the
rest
of
the
they
call
it
a
project
delivery
team,
it's
a
number
of
expertises
Staff,
representing
various
components
of
the
Army
Corps
District.
Here
they
reference
that
it's
like
we
need
to
start
here.
So
that's
really
good
I
think
that'll
inform
whatever
design.
D
We
start
with,
keep
in
mind
that
we
in
fact
I
think
the
city
would
want
to
hire
a
team
or
pay
a
team
that
works
for
us
within
the
within
the
Corps
of
Engineers
process.
That
is
possible.
There
are
ways,
as
I
said,
there
are
ways
of
doing
that.
They
would
work
for
us
and
then
the
Army
Corps
would
check
their
word.
So
we
would
have
really
good
design
input
from
them
and
they
would
be
responsible
for
the
city
not
to
the
Army
Corps,
but
that.
A
D
Credited
to
the
project
through,
what's
called
in-time
contributions,
and
things
like
that,
so
the
starting,
the
the
design
staff
report
that
you
all
have
seen
there's
a
lot
of
really
good
information
there
and,
in
fact
Morgan
gunlock,
who
is
now
the
head
of
the
design
center.
D
She
will
be
part
of
the
this
work
too
and
in
fact,
if
because
design
work
will
take
a
large
portion
of
her
time,
it
is
possible
that
we
she
can
hire
someone
or
the
city
can
hire
someone
to
support
her
and
all
that
gets
billed
to
the
project.
So
so
the
going
forward
in
the
design
phase
things
that
the
city
does
that
I
do
or
Kailyn
will
do
directly
related
to
the
delivery
of
this
project
or
delivery
of
the
design.
The
design
phase
is
billable
to
the
project.
D
D
Thank
you
good,
okay,
so,
on
Rosemont
resilience,
just
a
quick
update.
So,
as
mentioned
the
water
plane
team
had
a
meeting
with
the
community.
D
Meeting
with
the
community
on
March
9th
the
team
went
out,
there
walked
around
a
couple
times
talked
to
Residents.
We
invited
residents
into
the
community
center,
interviewed
them
collected
information
from
them
and
then
in
the
evening
we
had
a
public
meeting.
I
think
that
was
good.
I
will
say
that
I
was
a
bit
disappointed
in
the
turnout.
We
did
our
best
to
get
turnout.
Herbert
also
did
some
leg
work
for
us
to
get
to
increase
turnout.
D
We
had
the
afternoon
as
well
as
the
evening,
and
we
understand
people
work,
but
turnout
was
sub-optimal
in
my
opinion.
So
that's
on
us
to
do
better.
The
next
time
and
and
we'll
have
to
the
Rosemont
resilience
plan.
Formal
process
has
not
yet
started
because,
as
you
know,
lamsy
low
culture
lines
for
model
communities
applied
for
and
was
awarded
grant
money
to
contribute
to
a
resilience
plan
for
Rosemont
and
we
are
waiting.
They
are
waiting
for
the
check
so
to
speak
from
the
grantee
or
the
grantor
to
start
the
work.
D
E
Me
I
was
mute,
yeah,
yeah
I
think
you
covered
well.
We
in
Rosemont
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
water
plan,
oh
committee,
came
out
and
spent
the
day
seeking
information
concerns
information
about
from
the
residents
as
to
what
their
thoughts
were
and
I
think
the
water
claim
committee
did
a
great
job
as
far
as
answering
all
those
questions
and
giving
more
information
that
wasn't
asked.
E
What
we're
looking
for
now
is
the
I,
don't
want
to
say
final
product
as
to
what
they
come
up
with
and
how
that
will
tie
into
the
resiliency
plan
yeah
right,
so
we,
the
people
that
I
talked
with,
who
talk
with
me,
said
that
they
were
greatly
appreciative
of
the
committee
coming
out
and
spending
the
paper
down,
showing
that
there
is
a
sense
of
concern
coming
on
the
sit
beside
and
see
the
well-being
of
the
residents.
So
we
appreciate
that
and
thank
you
for
that.
D
Thanks
Herbert,
so
that's
moving
forward
again.
We
we
really
to
get
into
the
nitty-gritty
hard
work
of
the
resilience
plan.
We
we
need
to
or
Lancey
needs
the
nift
with
money,
because
that's
gonna
make
possible
a
number
of
other
sets
of
expertise
to
come
in
and
inform
us,
so
it
it'll
start.
We
help
this
summer.
If,
again,
the
The
Grand
Tour
takes
some
time
to
write
the
check
such
as
life
and
just
two
updates.
D
You
know
things
that
that
I'm
I'm
delighted
with
before
I
talk
about
the
sea
level.
Roy
strategy,
the
Dutch
dialogues
team,
said
directionally
that
you
know
we
need
to
be
very
careful
with
use
of
Phil.
In
low-lying
areas,
city
council
had
addressed
tried
to
address,
fill
Mo
linearies
in
in
the
past.
D
Unsuccessfully
there
are
reasons
for
that,
and
so
last
year
City
Planning
City
storm
water
and
the
resilience
office
got
together
and
we
worked
with
the
home
builders,
the
Realtors
historic
Charleston,
Foundation,
conservationally,
Southern,
environmental
law,
Center
and
I
feel
like
I'm,
forgetting
someone.
Anyway,
we
got
together
and
through
a
series
of
meetings
and
consensus
building,
we
came
up
with
a
recommendation
to
do
to
to
manage
Phil
in
the
low-lying
areas
and
we'll
we
get
up
that
through
the
foundation
types
that
are
possible
within
the
100
year.
D
Flood
plain
and
FEMA
has
an
existing
process
for
approved
types
of
Foundations,
so
we're
working
through
that
City
Council
in
on
first
reading,
adopted
or
approved
that
language
last
night.
So
maybe
in
two
weeks
we
will
have
a
formal
prohibition
on
the
use
of
fill
for
new
residential
construction
in
the
floodplain.
D
D
That
was
just
awarded
a
State
Office
of
resilience,
funding
the
Barbary
Woods
project,
which
is
a
more
nature-based
approach
to
flood
risk
management.
In
this
low-lying
area
with
when
the
office
of
Brazilians
called
us
the
other
couple
weeks
ago
and
said
they
had
approved
our
grant,
they
indicated
it
was
the
highest
scoring
project.
D
They
had
reviewed
in
this
cycle,
so
it's
a
nice
little
continuing
effort
of
how
we're
trying
to
adapt
some
of
our
barriers
using
heavy
infrastructure
and
gray
infrastructure
and
pipes
and
pumps
in
some
places,
as
well
as
using
natural
approaches
and
adaptation
approaches
in
other
parts.
So
it's
a
good
integration
and
we're
delighted
with
that
and
then
finally,
the
sea
level
rise
strategy.
You
know
I've
been
threatening
to
share
this
with
you,
so
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
here.
D
It
okay
good
great
thanks.
So
this
is
the
flooding
and
seal
Roy
strategy.
It
is
still
in
draft
form.
That
is
because
the
resilience
sustainability
advisory
committee
from
the
city
is
has
been
asked
to
review
it
and
provide
comments
as
well
as
city
council
has
been
given
the
draft
form
and
also
asked
to
make
comments
or
ask
questions,
but
we
did
once
those
comments
are
ingested
and
made.
We
will.
D
This
will
be
the
formal
document
and
we
will
present
at
the
council,
hopefully
in
a
couple
weeks,
but
one
of
the
things
you
all
noticed
and
and
Susan
was
was
very
adamant
about
this.
Is
the
city
needs
to
communicate
better
about
all
the
things
it's
doing
regarding
flood
risk
and
that
wasn't
just
from
Susan
a
lot
of
people?
I
heard
that
when
I
started
a
lot
of
people
said
we
don't
know
what
the
city's
doing?
What
is
it
doing?
Where
can
I
find
more
and
we
had
the
flooding
and
singulari
strategy?
D
You
know
it
was
first
issued
in
2015
updated
in
2019,
and
we
decided
to
update
it
to
because
it
needed
to
be
updated
because
a
lot
had
been
done
and
accomplished,
but
also
to
serve
as
a
place,
a
single
spot
where
citizens
or
stakeholders
can
go
to
find
out
what
the
city
was
doing.
So
this
is
it
this
isn't
here
again,
Susan
has
been
very
helpful
in
providing
some
good
journalistic
overview
and
editing
for
us
and
I'd.
Very
much
appreciate
that
other
other
members
have
the
resilience
committee.
D
Sustainable
advisor
committee
they've
also
been
helpful.
Given
some
suggestions,
this
is
a
document
that
can
be
updated
on
the
fly,
so
it's
online
only
it's
in
a
storyboard
format.
I'll
show
you
this
and
it
is
not
fully
exhaustive,
but
it
is
pretty
long
and
there's
a
lot
here
to
read
if
you're
bored
at
night-
and
you
have
nothing
better
to
do
so-
for
those
of
you
who
aren't
familiar
with
the
storyboard
format.
That's
this
first,
this
first
sort
of
storyboard
tells
you
how
to
do
that.
D
It
takes
a
little
while,
but
it
is
rich
in
graphics,
you'll
see
and
it
takes
a
while
to
populate,
but
there
are
different
things
you
can
do.
You
know
in
the
storyboard
we
have
our
executive
summary.
You
see
the
navigation
up
top
this
sort
of
says
what
we're
doing
some
of
the
goals
that
exist
from
the
original
summary.
The
Strategic
plan,
this
flooding
and
see
the
sea
of
horizon
flooding.
D
Introduction
this
this
here
there's
a
there
is
a
collection
of
a
bunch
of
federal,
existing
federal
state,
local
City
information
on
our
flooding
in
Seattle
rise
challenge,
cdgis
department
and
City
Planning.
Others
have
put
together
various
documents
over
the
last
number
of
years,
but
they
were
sort
of
hidden
and
no
one
knew
where
they
were
and
couldn't
access
them.
So
we
have
collated
them
and
put
them
all
here.
You
can
see
all
these
little
places.
You
can
go
some
updated
money
or
money.
Some
updated
information
on
sea
level
rise.
D
Things
like
that
very
important
under
the
infrastructure
is
the
listing
and
description
of
a
number
of
key
projects
that
the
city
has.
You
can
get
a
sense
of
this
LOL
battery.
The
Medical
District
Pump
Station
upgrade
sort
of
what
you
need
to
know.
Forest
Acres,
there's
just
a
number
of
projects
here
and
you
can
see
them
listed
here.
The
white
is
the
main
up
the
top
here.
D
The
white
is
the
main
menu
used
to
navigate
the
sections
and
then
within
each
section
there
are
a
number
of
subtopics
and
you
can
get
to
those
there.
So
these
sections
are
infrastructure,
land
use,
governance,
resource
and
information
and
Outreach.
Those
are
the
key
components
of
the
sea
level
rise
strategy.
So
we've
reflected
all
that.
But
again,
this
is
very
rich.
D
The
Land
and
Water
Analysis
briefly
described
here,
but
there's
just
a
lot
of
good
information
that
has
been
collated
a
lot
of
good
work
that
has
been
done
by
the
city
in
the
last
number
of
years.
City
council
has
invested
a
lot
and
we
need
to
show
that
to
the
citizens
and
that's
what
this
is
for
so
I'm
going
to
start
sharing
but
I'm
going
to
put
this
a
link
to
this
in
the
OR
I'll
share
the
link
we'll
share
the
link
to
this
document
to
all
of
you
after
this
meeting.
D
So
you
have
it
look
through
it.
If
you
have
suggestions
or
you
see
a
typo
that
I
did
not
catch
or
we
did
not
catch.
Please
share
that
with
us.
We
can
correct
it
on
the
Fly
and
I
just
want
to
let
you
know.
This
was
a
collaborative
effort
with
most
of
most
City
departments,
but
we
had
a
wonderful
College
of
College
of
Charleston
graduate
student.
You
met
her
I
think
she
attended
a
couple
of
the
meetings.
Last
Summer.
She
did
the
heavy
work
here.
D
Putting
this
together
and
when
we
presented
to
city
council
I
would
like
her
to
come
help
us
do
that
because
she
did
the
heavy
lift.
So
we
are,
we
are
importing
labor
wherever
we
can
to
help
us
do
this
work.
So
any
questions
about
that.
G
I
just
want
to
commend
Dan
and
all
those
people,
it's
a
an
encyclopedic
effort
and
it's
marvelous
and
and
you
can
tap
you
don't
have
to
read
the
whole
thing.
G
I've
read
most
of
it,
but
it
took
most
of
the
day
to
do,
but
you
can
tap
into
any
area
that
you're
interested
in
and
it
really
does
explain
what
all
is
going
on
here
in
a
way
that's
understandable
to
the
layperson
by
and
large,
and
it's
just
a
great
resource
to
have,
and
you
don't
have
to
go
to
City
Hall
and
you
don't
have
to
go
anywhere.
You
can
sit
in
your
house
and
and
get
the
information
you're
looking
for.
So
congratulations.
D
D
So
if
we
get
more
funding
for
a
particular
project
or
there's
an
updated
particular
policy
again
when
city
council
passes
this
prohibition
on
certain
types
of
foundation
in
this
lab
on
grade
no
fill
or
restriction,
a
fill
ordinance
I
will
be
able
to
update
this
this
website
very
quickly
and
that
can
be
part
of
our
of
our
strategy.
So
any
questions
I'm
done,
then
thank
you,
Caitlyn
and
hey
good.
It's
all
yours.
B
Yeah,
no
so
I
mean
I.
Think
the
next
agenda
item
is
just
but
basically
closing.
First
term
remarks:
yeah
no
I
I
just
want
to
say
I
appreciate,
appreciate
all
y'all's
time
and
effort
and
diligence,
and
you
know
special.
Thank
you,
of
course,
to
all
the
all
the
committee
members
and,
of
course,
the
Dale
and
Kailyn
for
all
their
efforts.
I
know
this,
isn't
the
this?
Isn't
the
only
party?
All's
you
know
job
and
and
goals
and
things
to
get
done
by
any
means,
so
I
think
I.
B
Think
the
level
of
effort
y'all
put
onto
this
and
professionalism
is
worth
committing
in
a
major
way.
So
thank
you
all
very
much.
D
B
Right,
thank
you.
I'll
say
same
for
our
council
members,
seekings
and
wearing.
Thank
you
all
very
much
and
say
the
same
remarks
to
you
all
as
well.
Thank
you
and.
B
Goes
to
all
our
community
members
appreciate
it
and
look
forward
to
seeing
seeing
where
this
project
goes
and
yeah
and
yeah
I
think
other
well,
it
was
a
q,
a
if
there's
any
other
kind
of
questions,
pressing
forward
or
or
any
other
commentary.
I'll
open
up
to
the
floor.
A
You
have
a
question
for
Dale
on
the
talked
about
the
design
agreement.
When
and
that's
you
know
a
little
bit
lengthy
process
when
do
we
think
we'll
have
a
design
agreement
in
place.
D
It's
going
to
take
us
a
while
to
to
get
draft
language
on
how
we
do
this
again.
We
had
a
promising
meeting
with
the
District
staff
yesterday.
D
If
we
stay
within
the
boundaries
of
their
template
that
don't
make
any
their
their
design
agreement
template
that
do
not
make
material
changes,
the
division
Commander
can
so
that's
Atlanta.
That's
in
Atlanta
the
division.
Commander
can
sign
the
document
or
authorize
the
district
Commander
to
sign
the
document.
D
We
may
need
to
ask
for
more
certainty
regarding
design
control
or
management
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
that's
going
to
require
sort
of
a
standard
review
by
the
division,
Commander
or
review
review
by
legal
and
headquarters
at
the
Army
Corps
I
think
it's
important
that
we
are.
We
as
a
city
are
comfortable
with
what
we're
putting
forth
in
a
design
agreement,
because
design
can't
start
until
that,
so
I
don't
know,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
summer
at
the
earliest.
D
That
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
A
lengthy
answer,
but
it's
it's
important
to
get
this
right
before
we
before
we
ask
Council,
because
they're
going
to
have
final
say
over
this
right.
So
it's
before
we
ask
Council
to
review
the
design
agreement,
show
their
level
of
comfort
and
whether
or
not
they're
willing
to
invest
in
ped.
H
Yeah
hi,
Dylan
I
guess
a
little
bit
wondering
what
the
role
of
this
committee
is.
With
regards
to
the
design
agreement,
I
mean
my
input
is
I
I
agree
with
you
to
fight
for
as
much
control
input
as
as
you
can
get
it
maybe
without
having
to
you
know,
hire
a
whole
new
staff
for
for
them
right,
so
I
I
understand,
there's
trade-offs.
H
Just
and
people
can
comment
on
that.
But
last
time
we
were
here.
You
also
mentioned
some
painting
legislation
that
would
help
bring
some
things
that
we
want
within
the
scope
of
what
the
Army
core
will
pay
for.
Has
there
been
any
movement
on
any
of
that.
D
So
that's
the
rulemaking
on
the
PNG
and
the
prng.
So
sorry,
this
jargon
from
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers,
so
the
way
feasible
feasibility
studies
are
done.
They
follow
a
1983
law
of
the
principles
of
guidelines,
which
really
requires
the
federal
government
to
do
projects
that
have
a
positive
benefit,
cost
ratio
and
once
they
have
that
to
have
the
benefit
cost
ratio
that
gives
you
the
highest
benefits
for
the
lowest
cost.
D
An
effort
in
in
Congress
and
elsewhere
to
change
that
update
that
to
reflect
there's
more
that's
needed
in
complex
Urban
environments
in
in
some
other
areas
that
legislation
or
that
activity
move
forward
in
2007
and
2014
to
have
a
draft
rule
that
would
enable
this
bigger,
better
process.
D
There
was
legislation
passed
that
prohibited
Congress,
sorry,
part
of
the
Army
Corps
from
doing
anything
between
2016
and
2020,
on
that
the
National
Academy
of
Sciences
and
others
have
worked
on
a
draft
proposed
rule
with
the
assistant
Secretary
of
the
army.
To
do
this,
we
hear
that
that
rulemaking
they
will
do
this
through
a
rulemaking
process,
not
a
legislative
process
that
rulemaking
the
proposed
rule
or
the
draft
proposed
role
will
come
out
sometime
in
the
next
couple
of
months
and
once
that
occurs,
there's
a
formal
regulatory
process.
D
There's
you
go
through
the
proposed
role.
There
are
60
or
90-day
comment
period.
All
comments
submitted
have
to
be
reviewed
ingested.
There
will
be
a
draft
final
rule
that
will
also
have
a
comment
period
and
then
the
rule
will
be
made
and
I
forget
the
word,
but
the
rule,
the
rule
will
go
into
effect.
On
a
certain
day
after
that
final
draft
rule
is
done
and
then,
if
Congress
wanted,
they
could
pass
legislation
to
prevent
the
implementation
of
the
rule.
But
what
we
hear
is
this
draft
proposed
role.
D
That's
being
formulated
has
strong
bipartisan
support
and
that's
simply
because
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
is
working
in
a
lot
of
districts.
The
congressional
districts
and
States
Across,
the
Nation
and
a
lot
of
congressmen
from
both
parties
and
senators
from
both
parties
see
the
need
to
update
the
PNG
to
the
prng.
So
that's
what
this
is
about.
So
it's.
D
Us
so
to
speak
in
the
design
phase,
but
I'm
really
confident
that
all
the
things
that
we
can
get
that
we
need
to
do
in
the
design
phase
we
can
get
with
existing
Authority
and
we
can
also
then,
if
they
object,
we
can
reference
this
proposed
role
and
say:
look
why
not
so
it's
a
negotiating
position
but
I
do
feel
very
good
about
it.
H
A
B
C
I
would
just
remind
her
again
we
are
seeking
a
new
chairman,
so
if
you
have
that
interest,
we
can
take
that
to
the
mayor.
Please
let
us
know,
and
and
also
in
one
of
the
ordinance
update
with
the
makeup
of
the
committee.
We
have
listed
an
engineer.
We
will
be
changing
that
to
an
engineer
or
architect.
C
So
if
you
have
any,
you
know
councilman
or
any
other
committee
members
in
mind
somebody
it's
a
little
challenging
one,
because
we
want
folks
that
obviously
wouldn't
have
a
conflict
of
conflict
of
interest
that
would
potentially
ever
do
any
work
on
this
project.
So
we
would.
We
would
love
any
ideas
to
help
us
brainstorm,
that
and
and
take
to
the
mayor
and
city
council
for
approval.
So
just
some
housekeeping
efforts
through
the
committee
makeup.
But
that's
all
for
me.
Yeah.
D
D
D
Great
Mike,
thank
you,
yeah,
just
on
the
conflict
of
interest,
there's
a
number
of
really
smart
Engineers.
We
know,
but
in
fact,
if,
if
and
as
the
project
moves
forward,
they
may
want
to
participate
it
in
the
professional
way
and
if
they
were
on
this
community,
they
would
have
an
appearance
of
a
conflict,
so
they
may
not
want
to.
They
may
not
want
to
join
you
all.
For
that
reason,.
B
Enjoy
the
two-year
term
it'll
be
good
to
be
a
I
think
in
the
in
the
crowd,
role,
I
think
going
forward.
It'll
be
it'll,
be
nice,
so
excited
about
that.
So.
D
B
Well,
good
well
I'll,
go
ahead
and
adjourn
during
this
meeting
thank
y'all
very
much
for
your
time
and
enjoy
the
rest
your
day
and
we'll
reconnect
soon.
Here.