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City of Charleston Army Corps 3x3 Advisory 11/17/21
A
Bob
had
some
questions
I
understand
in
the
last
meeting
about
the
financing
plan
for
ped.
I
worked
through
them
last
week.
I
think
there
was
a
misunderstanding
in
how
they,
whether
the
funds
coming
in
from
hospitality
and
tourism
we're
going
to
be
or
not.
These
are
annual
projected
surpluses
from
the
cfo
for
those
facilities
for
those
revenue
facilities,
as
they
call
them,
and
we
have
claimed
a
portion
of
a
portion
not
all
but
a
portion
of
those
surpluses
in
each
year
to
fund
the
pet
contribution.
A
B
B
So
you
know
I
our
discussion
clarified
that
and
I
think
there
is
a
a
matching
principle
in
place
and
likewise
I
think
the
other
concern
about
whether
the
approach
the
calculus
accommodated
additional
plan
projects.
You
know
the
declining
percentage
of
the
surplus
is
going
to
be
assumed.
I
think
accommodates
accommodates
that
I
would
you
know
this.
I
wouldn't
run
a
commercial,
though,
that
I
think
at
this
phase,
additional
pressure.
A
B
Yeah,
I
was
going
to
say
that
this
is
doug
warner.
Of
course
I
worked
with
export
charleston.
I
I
can
tell
you
those
those
numbers
are
real.
Those
are
validated.
We've
got
a
40-year
track
record
of
projecting
with
the
city
what
those
dollars
are
and
seldom
are
we
off.
So
just
just
fyi
there's
there's
a
pretty
extensive
track
record
in
those
dollars
specifically
right.
A
B
Hey
dale,
just
a
a
quick
final
thought
as
we
move
from
ped
funding
to
sourcing
dollars
for
the
construction
phase,
assuming
we
we
get
to
that
point,
I
think
we
need
a
sort
of
a
robust
discussion
around
what
contingency
dollars
should
be
thought
of
and
factored
in.
I
mean
in
developing
the
proposed
language
for
the
staffing
aspect.
So
dollars
aren't
the
only
constrained
resource.
B
You
know
it's
expertise
in
asses
and
seats
and
not
sure
that
that's
a
provision
not
sure
that
betterments
are
a
provision
things
go
bump
in
the
night.
That
kind
of
thing
so
right,
what
did
what
we
all
would
be
comfortable
with
in
terms
of
providing
a
contingency,
whether
that's
20
or
something
you
know
reasonable
for
this
kind
of
scale
and
complexity
of
a
project.
A
You're
absolutely
right-
and
I
so
you
know
once
we
step
into
ped
if
we
step
in
the
head
again,
caleb-
and
I
and
other
folks
are
already
having
discussions
with
various
components
of
a
future
construction
financing
strategy.
We
laid
some
of
those
out.
We
have
some
sources
available
to
us
that
are
easy
to
easy,
to
arrange
and
manage,
and
other
ones
are
going
to
be
more
difficult,
we're
starting
that
discussion
and
when
we
move
through
ped
we'll
get
a
sense
of
okay.
Is
this
thing
real
or
you
know?
A
Are
we
going
to
be
able
to
design
an
engineer
of
the
structure
that
worked
for
the
city
or
not
and
then
the
more
salient
the
yes
becomes
to
that?
Then
we
really
you're
dead
right.
We
need
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
pay
for
it,
but
there
are
already
discussions
underway
for
those
resilience,
bond
components
and,
and
what
would
a
peninsula
wide
mid
mean?
Those
discussions
have
started,
I'm
giving
you
my
word.
I
have
started
those
so
again.
We
have
to
have
priorities
and
phase
this
right,
but
we
are.
A
A
Good
then
one
other
thing
I
want
to
I
wanted
to
work
through.
This
may
take
a
little
bit
of
time,
not
too
much
time,
but
it
occurred
to
me
that
that
I
assumed
that
everyone
understood
the
title
ben
the
title
controlled
benefits
of
the
surge
structure,
because
all
of
this
is
this
is
a
start
structure.
It
will
have
title
control
benefits
and
this
is
not
an
explicit
component
of
a
third
structure,
but
the
way
a
search
structure
works.
A
The
benefits
are
there,
so
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
and
just
work
through
a
number
of
slides,
most
of
the
slides
come
from
the
land
and
water
analysis
that
wagon
ball,
the
water
institute
did
before
we
came
before
I
came
here.
We
did
on
this,
so
let
me
just
find
my
presentation
hold
on
a
second,
it's
not
popping.
B
A
Absolutely,
and
so
that's
what
I
want
to
talk
about
when
I
saw
those
team
ties
and
as
it's
like,
okay,
what
what
can
we
do
to
deal
with
those
things?
And
you
know
we
need
a
drainage
system
to
deal
with
those
and
that's
some
some
version
of
calhoun
west,
because
you
know
again
that
was
title
that
was
in
stormwater,
but
let
me
work
through
these
slides.
Can
y'all
see
my
screen.
My
screen
that
just
pops
up
is
it
there
good
okay?
A
So
this
is
just
loose,
and
I
you
know
I
just
this
is
for
us
I
mean
I
I
will
stand
by
this
general
analysis
here,
but
this
is
to
help
the
advisory
committee
understand
these.
These
title
benefits
so
the
map
on
the
right.
These
are
wagon
ball
water
institute
images,
but
the
map
on
the
right
shows
100
year
floodplain,
you
can
see
the
light
blue
where
it
is
so
there's
tremendous
amount
of
risk
from
the
peninsula
and
the
white
part
is
the
old
high
ground.
A
A
Are
reappearing
you
know
they're
going
to
get
more
water
and
more
water.
So
there's
this
tremendous
tidal
risk
that
we
already
have.
Okay,
not
storm
water
is
for
the
tidal
risk,
and
here
is
just
a
sort
of
an
image
of
the
wall,
and
if
you
can
see
my
cursor
here,
the
wall
will
be
up
here
at
12
foot
nava,
but
major
flood
stage
occurs
right
here.
A
So
this
is
off
of
off
of
mean
sea
level,
not
navd,
vdd-88
right
so
just
using
a
different
data
here,
but
the
major
tide
would
be
here
so
the
wall
will
prevent
it.
So
that's
great,
so
we
have
some
ancillary
benefit,
but
here's
another
map
from
the
from
the
wagon
ball
analysis.
But
here
you
can
see
with
the
wall
in
place.
A
lot
of
places
are
dry.
This
is
a
mimic
in
essence
of
the
army
corps
of
engineers,
sort
of
what
what
benefits
the
law
would
provide.
A
A
And
vehicular
gates,
the
tidal
surge
gates,
are
right
here.
There's
one
up
here
in
wagner:
terrace
there's
another
one
here
at
the
outfall
there's
one
here
one
here
at
the
edge
of-
and
this
is
just
pronator
design,
but
one
here
at
the
at
the
at
the
top
of
brittle
bank,
one
here
by
the
ashland
river
bridge,
one
here
at
the
long
lake
and
one
down
here
by
the
coast
guard
station.
D
A
The
permanent
ones
they're
related
very
closely
to
the
location
of
these
surge
gates.
So
this
is
where
the
tide
pushes
in
and
it
pushes
in
and
comes
up
over
structures
and
starts
to
flood
okay.
So
in
the
pump
stations
again,
the
permanent
ones
are
closely
correlated
to
the
location
of
those
title
surge
dates,
and
this
is
from
the
tsp-
and
I
just
want
to
point
this
out
here:
it's
in
the
tsp,
the
gates,
the
surge
gates,
storm.
B
A
Would
remain
open
and
the
gate
closed
procedure
would
be
initiated
based
on
storm
surge
predictions
from
the
weather
service
when
major
flooding
is
expected,
so
that's
the
eight
foot
mean
low
low
water.
That's
the
king
tide
incidence
and
those
king,
tides
are
going
to
increase.
The
storm
gates
will
be
closed
at
low
tide
so
before
the
the
flooding
starts
to
occur
before
the
water
starts
to
push
in
and
up
the
creeks
and
starts
to
flood
folks,
those
those
tidal
storm
gates
will
close,
so
none
of
the
water
gets
in.
A
A
C
A
These
dates,
depending
on
the
particular
tide
and
how
it's
going
to
how
it's
going
to
attack
the
peninsula.
So
this
is
this
is
in
the
this
is
in
the
tsp,
and
this
is
something
that
in
ted,
the
city
would
design
like.
Okay.
How
do
we?
When
do
we
operate
these?
These
surge
dates?
What
happens
is
in
the
larger
scheme
of
things,
as
we
think
about
this,
so
with
that
first
image
image
here
in
this
image
here
we
are
going
to
need
to
do
something
to
prevent
tide
from
taking
over
the
peninsula
in
the
future
right.
A
It's
it's
happening.
It's
going
to
happen,
so,
no
matter
what
we're
going
to
have
to
do
something
some
side
of
wall,
some
type
of
wall
is
going
to
be
needed,
whether
that's
a
knee
wall
or
a
surge
wall
you're
going
to
have
to
do
something,
because
these
ties
will
stop.
King
tides
are
going
to
come
around
twice
a
year.
They
cause
a
lot
of
damage
and
you
get
tropical
storms
too.
So
what
do
you
do
about
that?
And
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
no
matter
the
size
of
the
pumps.
A
You
have
the
biggest
pump
system
in
the
world,
no
matter
the
size
of
the
pumps
when
water
from
the
harbor
starts
to
come
in
the
city
at
any
level,
at
any
sort
of
substantial
volume
they
will,
if
that
water
will
overwhelm
the
drainage
system.
So
the
water
is
going
to
stack
up
in
the
streets
and
it
holds
right.
So
that's
why
you
have
this
wall
to
protect
that
water
from
coming
in
so
I
mean
matt
fountain
says
you
know
you
can't
pump
the
harbor
he's
absolutely
right.
A
That's
a
sort
of
shorthand
there,
so
we
had
matt
run
a
little
analysis
for
us.
So
just
for
a
knee
walk.
We
just
do
a
knee
walk
we
could,
but,
although
in
the
low
battery
restoration,
which
is
such
a
really
nice,
that's
a
really
nice
knee
wall.
It's
a
really
nice
wall.
It's
it's
a
cost
about
70
million
dollars
a
mile
present
value
of
2021.,
so
it's
sort
of
expensive.
A
But
if
you
just
did
the
ugly
simplest
little
knee
wall,
it
would
be
matt
estimates
that
his
current
costs
and
things
that
would
be
about
10
million
dollars
a
mile,
and
so
I
just
did
a
sort
of
analysis
here.
Let's
split
the
difference
about
half
the
peninsula
would
need
a
really
attractive
new
wall
and
half
the
peninsula
would
would
need
an
ugly
sort
of
you
know
utilitarian
utilitarianism.
A
So
let's
assume
35
million
dollars
to
build
this
knee
wall
on
average
right
50
percent,
simple
and
50.
Really
nice.
Your
costs
here
to
the
city
are
going
to
be
280
million
dollars.
In
essence,
this
is
this
is
a
planned
capital
investment.
If
we're
going
to
stay
on
the
this
would
have
to
be
a
planned
capital
investments
if
we're
going
to
maintain
the
peninsula
just
because
we
have
to
deal
with
these
sides.
A
So
if
you
think
of
the
structure
of
the
surge
structure
costing
the
city
a
net
250
because
of
the
after
the
easement
credits,
we're
going
to
get
both
tidal
and
surge
for,
perhaps
a
little
bit
of
a
lower
cost.
This
is
all
conjecture
on
the
cost,
but
you
can
see
here
that
this
title
structure,
this
cert
instructor,
has
these
title
benefits,
and
thus
we
don't
have
to
do
both.
A
We
can
get
both
benefits
and
that
in
fact
may
leave
more
money
for
a
for
calhoun
west
or
for
whatever
drainage
needs
on
the
peninsula
and
elsewhere
in
the
city.
So
there's
a
resilience
financial
resilience
component
to
this
too,
that
this
surge
structure
could
provide
the
benefits
and
if
it
was
in
place
last
week
that
water
would
not
have
come
up
into
into
the
south
abroad
neighborhoods
of
gaston
and
rutledge,
and
all
those
places
just
wanted
to
explain
that
to
you
that
you
know,
I
assumed
everyone.
B
C
C
I
I
had
a
question
if
I
could
ask
please
yep,
I
understood
I
didn't
see
it,
but
I
understood
that
the
market
flooded
last
week,
as
it
often
does
in
these
title
situations.
Can
you
explain
how?
First
of
all
why?
Because
we
thought
that
that
was
taken
care
of
with
a
big
project
and,
secondly,
how
this
arrangement
with
the
title
gates,
would
handle
that
part
of
the
city.
A
There's
a
flap
gate
or
a
check
valve
needed
over
there
that
or
a
check
valve
that's
already
installed
that
wasn't
that
wasn't
in
place.
You
do
have
this
issue
mike,
and
I
have
talked
about
this
mike
seekings
and
I
have
talked
about
this
so
as
the
relative
as
the
as
the
water
in
the
harbor
and
the
rivers
rises.
A
There's
a
connection
in
the
shallow
surface,
groundwater
right,
and
so
the
pressure
on
one
side
of
the
wall
gets
one
side
of
the
city
gets
high
and
on
land
the
groundwater
starts
transferring
the
water
to
the
other
side.
The
water
level
is
trying
to
balance
itself
right,
so
you
can
get
groundwater
impacts,
groundwater
coming
up
on
on
in
the
city
simply
because
the
water
in
the
river
is
higher,
and
so
with
a
surge
structure,
and
I
checked
this
with
with
the
army
corps.
A
You
recall
that
first
image
that
I
showed
you,
the
certain
structure
above
ground
is
concrete
or
something
really
nice
and
even
what
we
can
afford
below
ground
it's
on
piles
and
in
between
the
piles.
You
can
just
put
sticks,
you
know
big
sticks
or
concrete,
concrete
columns
there,
which
is
what
you
do
on
the
beach.
But
you
you
really
want
to
put
cut
off
walls
there
so
sheet,
potting,
cut
off
walls,
which
then
will
stop
that
transfer
of
water
between
the
open
system
and
the
and
the
city
or
groundwater.
A
And
so
that's
how
you
get
that
protection,
so
surgery
may
have
protected
there
too
again.
Cut
off
walls
are
not
100
water
tight.
So
if
the
tide
or
you
know
you
get
a
six
days
of
high
tide,
you
may
start
to
have
some
water
popping
up
through
the
groundwater
through
the
groundwater
system.
But
it's
going
to
prevent
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
that
seepage
coming
through.
So
it's
not
a
perfect
solution,
but
it
would
have.
It
would
likely
have
prevented
some
of
that.
A
B
A
By
morrison
yards
that
was
just
an
over
topping
of
the
berm,
so
the
city
put
in
a
berm
up
there
to
protect
that
area
that
dips
under
the
bridge,
and
it's
just
over
top
it
that's
a
design
exceedance.
That's
not
a
design
failure,
that's
a
design
exceedance,
so
that
burn
needs
to
be
higher
or
eventually
you
build
a
knee
wall
right
or
another
wall.
So.
A
A
Its
reach
is
generally
it's
fairly
limited
unless
you
have
a
very
wide
but
not
deep,
shallow
groundwater
aquifer,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
a
water
plane
will
help
tease
out.
Is
you
know
what
are
the?
What
are
the
the
depths
and
the
extents
of
the
shallow
groundwater
system?
Here
there
is
some
information
already.
We
know
the
college
of
charleston
has
that,
but
it
hasn't
been
analyzed.
It
hasn't
been
analyzed.
We
need
to
understand
that
better.
A
F
B
So,
first
of
all,
you
mentioned
earlier
dale
that
the
port
realignment
is
moving
forward
with
with
assurance,
which,
which
is
very
welcome
news
and,
as
you
know,
there
are
additional
alignment
questions
along
the
east
side,
certainly
the
aquarium
or
cultural
district.
All
the
institutions
that
reside
there,
as
well
as
the
proposed
development,
all
the
way
down
to
waterfront
park.
B
But
again
it
points
back
to
the
alignment
questions,
particularly
on
the
east
side.
If
institutions
like
the
aquarium
and
the
museum
and
fort
sumter
and
college
of
charleston
are
outside
of
the
wall,
it
represents
a
huge
impediment
to
business.
As
we
see
the
frequency
of
these
flooding
events
as
anticipated,
increase
over
the
next
couple
of
decades
and
and
so
the
notion
of
shutting
down
every
couple
of
weeks
or
even
bi-weekly
once
a
week
is,
is
very
daunting.
A
A
So
the
authority
to
do
that
is
there
and
you
can
see
this
major
realignment,
that's
occurring
before
ped
for
the
port,
important
port
facilities.
I
mean
they're
doing
it
so
there
is
the
the
process,
enables
alignment,
changes
and
really
those
alignment
changes
need
to
be
based
upon
good
information
and
that
good
information
is
what
you
get
in
ted.
That's
the
design
and
engineering
phase
so
that
I
hope
that
creates
some
confidence,
and
I
think
you
could
see
the
city
comments
on
the
tsp.
A
A
The
side
and
the
the
gaston
grover
neighborhood
and
then
sort
of
south
of
sweden
and
south
it's
going
to
be
tricky
again.
We
need
more
information.
There,
there's
there's
geotech
information,
there's
more
survey,
information,
there's
a
lot
of
stuff,
that's
needed
to
make
sure
we
can.
We
can
get
a
good
line
there.
We
have
to
do
that
work,
but
the
title
gates.
A
If
this
is
your
question,
what
I
just
described
are
the
title
gates
shutting
down
those
are
the
most
outward
of
all
the
dates:
the
interior
gates,
the
pedestrian
gates,
the
vehicular
gates,
the
railroad
gates
on
the
port.
Those
do
not
have
to
be
closed,
because
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
prevent-
because
you
know
we're
talking
about
an
eight
foot
or
a
nine
foot-
tie
not
a
12
or
14
foot
tide,
so
those
those
interior
gates
will
be
open
and
then
no
impediments
to
business
or
recreation
would
occur
within
that
area.
A
Again,
once
you
start
to
approach
a
major
tide,
I
mean
you
know
a
big
flood
or
a
big
tide
or
a
big
surge.
That's
when
you
start
to
close
all
of
the
gates,
but
it's
going
to
depend
upon
the
level
of
ground
relative
level
of
ground
where
that
gate
structure
is
and
then
what
kind
of
tidal
flood
is
expected
and
then
they'll
determine
if
they
close
it
or
not,
and
you're
on
fairly
high
that
area
starting
gas
and
barriers,
not
on
the
lowest
portion
of
the
peninsula.
A
B
C
A
B
F
See
all
right
so
next,
so
we're
going
to
start
with.
So
I
I
misspoke
earlier
we've
already
gotten
through
the
natural
nature-based
solutions,
which
is
the
reason
it's
not
on
not
on
the
agenda.
Oh
thank
you
kayla
and
I
just
okay,
perfect,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
my
usual
spot
here.
So
we're
gonna
start
with
susan's
language
go
from
the
the
bottom
to
the
top,
and
so
I'm
sure
everybody's
had
a
chance
to
read
it.
If
not,
you
know
go
ahead
and
take
a
second,
my
review
of
it
it.
F
It
seems
to
make
a
lot
of
sense,
but
you
know
I
think
the
goal
here
will
just
be
to
have
conversation
as
necessary
or
comments
questions
as
necessary
regarding
this
language
and
then
such
we
have,
for
the
other
recommendations,
move
to
approve
the
language
to
be
included
in
our
address
to
city,
council
and
so
yeah.
So
with
that
said,
you
know
any
thoughts,
comments,
questions
regarding
this
language.
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
floor
to
the
to
the
group
and
thank
you,
susan
for
drafting.
F
Hey
kalyn,
I
think
the
the
ordinance
ended
up.
Thank
you.
No.
Thank
you.
Sorry.
Thank
you,
susan,
that
that
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
You're
right,
I
mean
dale.
What
does
that
look
like
to
dig
further
to
susan's
comment?
What
does
that
look
like
from
a
timeline
standpoint
when
does
when
and
how
does
work
probably
begin
getting
generated.
A
Yeah,
so
the
resilience
office
belief
is
that
the
advisory
committee
has
served
a
good
role.
It's
sounding
bored,
it's
tortured
us
a
little
bit.
It's
all
good
right.
This
is
all
part
of
the
transparency
process
of
such
a
big
thing.
So
we
you
know
we
would
support
the
idea
of
the
advisory
advisory
committee
staying
in
place,
providing
some
oversight
and
some
communication
roles
going
forward
through
ped,
so
two
thumbs
up
for
this.
A
A
If
everything
goes
right,
it
will
get
a
signed
chiefs
report
that
will
then
go
to
congress
for
the
authorization
and
appropriation
to
really
begin
pay.
So
that
is
the
big
expenditure.
That's
when
the
the
two
million
dollars
gets
spent
for
surveys
and
we
we
tee
up
the
engineers
to
go
and
talk
to
the
folks
in
rosemont
about
what
is
non-structural
mean
for
each
individual
house
surveys,
all
those
kind
of
things
that
work
could
probably
start
as
early
as
third
quarter
of
2022.
A
Looking
at
how
this
works,
because
the
core
can
do,
the
district
can
do
some
of
that
work
off
of
their
general
budget.
Some
of
it
doesn't
have
to
take.
You
know
big
big
dollars,
but
you
need
the
big
dollars
after
an
authorization
and
appropriation
before
the
corps
can
start
to
do
the
big
work
with
the
city
that
big
work
is
not
likely
to
start
until
maybe
q4
of
2022
or
q1
of
2023.
A
G
C
A
However,
until
you
see
that
in
writing
it
it's
just
sort
of
anecdotal,
it's
whatever
you
call
that
hearsay.
So
let's
wait
and
see
that
the
core
will
make
an
agency
decision
milestone,
that
is
with
headquarters
and
division
and
district
sometime
in
december
we
hear
and
then
that
will
create
the
recommended
plan.
A
F
F
F
Thank
you
we'll
go
to
a
vote,
any
any
additional
commentary
questions
anything
along
those
lines.
Discussion
regarding
the
motion,
all
right,
not
not
hearing
any
all
those
in
favor.
I
guess
the
easiest
way
to
do
this.
Given
the
zoom
and
the
wording
up,
please
yeah.
Please
raise
your
hands
kayla's
that
work
for
you.
G
F
F
All
right,
it
is
so
moved
so
we'll
go
we'll
get
that
incorporated
into
the
into
the
language
okay,
so
the
next
piece
of
language
is
co-authored
from
bob
laura
and
susan.
Thank
you
all
for
doing
that
and
laura
couldn't
be
with
us,
but
she
wrote
me
a
note
in
support
of
the
direction
that
we're
going
in
in
support
of
the
language,
so
that
was
that
was
that
was
positive,
and
so
you
know
again,
every
similar
situation
everybody's,
hopefully
had
a
chance
to
read
through
this
bob.
B
Not
only
is
the
expertise-
and
you
know
just
arms
and
legs
important,
but
that
a
plan
is
essential
because
hiring
takes
a
long
time
and
to
have
the
right
staffing
in
place
to
do
this,
where
it
doesn't
suck
away
attention
and
focus
and
resource
from
all
the
other.
You
know
drainage
projects
that
we
have
to
do.
D
F
A
A
B
A
Contributions
to
fed
what
we
estimated
we're
estimating
what
the
core
of
engineers
has
said.
This
is
what
we
think
the
city's
contribution
will
be
and
we
broke
that
down
into
years
again
how
that
money
gets
spent.
The
city
does
have
a
design
component
in
ped
and
whether
the
city
does
that
in-house
or
or
hires
a
consultant
to
do
that
the
fee
for
that.
A
Does
that
clarify
and
then,
regarding
the
this
coordinating
committee
mark
had
when
the
tsp
was
released
in
april
2020,
I
want
to
say,
for
six
or
seven
months
mark
had
a
monthly
ad
hoc
meeting
with
department
heads
that
were
impacted
by
the
three
by
three,
and
that
was
fine
and
then
that
stopped.
I
don't
know
why,
but
I
do
think
you're
right.
We
need
a
coke
on
in
the
jargon.
A
We
need
a
coordinating
committee
within
the
city
departments
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
aware
going
forward
what's
going
on
with
ted
and
how
do
we
coordinate
it's
the
office
of
the
job
of
resilience
officers
to
knit
together
the
silos?
That's
what
you
do
on
this
part
of
the
sort
of
key
requirements,
and
this
would
be
part
of
that.
So
I
would
this
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
I
would
commit
myself
to
working
with
whoever
else
to
to
get
that
set
in
place
to
get
that
monthly
meeting
or
bi-weekly
bi-monthly
meeting
set
in
place.
F
D
I
don't
I'm
not
sure
that
it
needs
to
be
a
part
of
the
formal
motion.
I
just
we're
talking
about
staffing
going
into
pad
and
I
just
wanted
to
iterate
that
point,
because
I
think
it
is
one
of
the
really
important
recommendations
coming
out
of
that
discovery.
Analysis
and
I
just
want
to
bring
it
to
everybody's
attention.
F
F
F
B
Hey
good,
I
you
know,
I
think
one
of
the
continuing
tensions
is
three
by
three
versus
the
other
water
management
infrastructure,
capital
projects
that
we
have
to
do,
and
I
don't
think
that
we
have
a
good
visibility
on
what
the
specific
commitment
is
that
other
projects
will
progress.
They'll
get
funded,
they'll
get
staffed,
and
you
know
we.
We
reference
the
need
and
the
urgency
of
the
water
plan
to
sort
of
knit
these
different
demands
into
one
relatively
cohesive
game
plan.
F
A
G
A
In
the
budget
for
next
year,
it
was
approved
by
the
ways
and
means
committee
yesterday,
so
it
is
there.
There
are
a
couple
questions
about
this
from
some
council
members.
I've
developed
a
one
pager
that
is
not
yet
ready
for
one
for
prime
time,
but
when
it
is,
I'm
happy
to
share
that
or
what
a
water
plan
is,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
components
of
water
plants
already
in
existence
in
the
city.
There's
been
a
lot
of
good
work
already
done
so
we're
not
starting
from
scratch.
A
Number
two
we've
said
this
before,
but
the
drainage
fee
and
the
stormwater
fees
they
fund
the
stormwater
department
and
they
are
segregated
from
from
everything
else
that
money
goes
to
matt's
team
and
they
use
it
for
mass
projects.
Matt
is
the
representative
of
stormwater,
so
no
money
from
those
fees
or
for
the
staffing.
The
operations
of
that
department
would
come
to
the
pet.
It's
not
an
either
or
we're
not
talking
zero
sums.
A
B
C
F
As
so
just
couple
quick
notes
is,
is
you
know
where
we're
the
good
news
is,
and
this
is
a
good
thing
where
put
forward
that
water,
the
water
plan
recommendation,
as
dale
mentioned,
it's
been
budgeted
for
and
so
anyway.
So
that's
a
good
thing.
I
mean
that's
that
work
is
in
progress.
Number
one
number
two,
I
know
councilmember
c
kings
has
brought
this
up
a
number
of
times
and
and
same
as
a
lot
of
us,
you
particular
students
as
well
as
others,
I'm
in
that
in
that
kelvin
west
area.
F
E
Well,
yeah,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sort
of
offline
kind.
I've
had
some
internet
issues
over
here,
so
I'm
connected
about
three
different
ways:
yeah
yeah
I
mean
I've
made
it
no
secret
sort
of
my
view
of
the
world
is
that
we've
got
lots
of
needs
and
wants
not
just
on
the
peninsula
but
around
the
city
for
water
management
and
how
this
project
integrates
into
those
projects
which
we've
been
talking
about
and
actually
moving
at
least
slowly
forward
on
a
few
I
think,
is
still
uncertain
and
it's
a
conversation
that
we
clearly
need
to
have.
E
I
mean
we
have
certain
segregated
pots
of
money,
but
there
are
no
large
pots
of
money
to
put
to
either
the
construction
of
three
by
three
or
the
construction
of
calhoun
west
that
have
been
identified
today.
We
have
to
be
committed
to
integrating
our
plan
and
then
moving
forward
and
just
one
quick
point
of
clarification.
Dale
yesterday
it
was
at
the
budget
committee
workshop
that
the
budget
was
presented
and
the
monies
for
the
watermen
the
water
study
were
in
there.
E
It's
clear
from
the
conversations
around
that
table
that
the
budget
is
going
to
move
forward
with
that
in
it.
I
think
I
don't
think
there's
going
to
be
any
resistance
to
it.
It's
how
we
fund
that
budget
is
always
the
question
so
sort
of
a
long
answer
to
I
I
I,
as
I
sit
here
today
as
a
citizen
and
as
a
city
councilman,
I
had
to
share
some
of
the
same
concerns.
I've
heard
from
my
constituents
about
how
we're
going
to
integrate
large-scale
water
management
projects
across
the
city.
E
E
You
saw
the
map
that
dale
put
up
earlier
about
sort
of
capital
projects
and
water
management
projects
we're
talking
about
billions,
so
that
gap
is
not
just
a
little.
It's
not
we're
not
talking
about
a
one
mil
tax
increase
which,
by
the
way,
gets
people's
blood
pressure
through
the
roof.
We're
talking
about
real
money
here,
so
you
can
imagine
what
that
conversation
is
going
to
look
like.
I
wish
I
had
great
insight
into
this.
E
Clearly,
water
management
in
that
watershed
is
needed
and
the
deep
tunneling
projects
we
know
work.
If
you
saw
last
week
when
we
had
those
crazy
high
tides,
the
corner
of
east
bay
and
calhoun
street
was
bone
dry.
It
was
bone
dry
for
two
reasons,
one
of
which
is
the
calhounist
project,
two
of
which
is
we've
done
some
pretty
good
work
with
the
czech
valves
and
checking
off
some
of
the
points
of
access
along
the
east
side
as
well.
E
But
you
know
the
the
west
side
was
bone
dry
because
the
check
valves
are
working
until
the
tide
hits
7.2
feet
and
then
it
was
river
city.
So
we
it
over
topped.
I
didn't
really
plan
on
talking
as
long
as
I
did,
but
you
you
asked
me
so
calhoun
west,
as
you
know,
it's
no
secret
to
me
is
the
most
important
project.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilmember.
Maybe
what
we
can
do
is
I
can
go
back
and
and
maybe
add
a
little
more
language
on
that
third
paragraph
had
a
couple
or
two
more
sentences
and
and
anybody
that
you
know
bob
councilmember
seekings
anybody
else
that
has
any
other
language
recommendations
there.
Please
please
shoot
him
over
to
me
and
I
can
take
a
stab
at
that
and
recirculate.
It.
H
H
I
think
that
would
be
the
fastest
unanimous
vote
that
would
ever
go
through
council
to
get
a
major
drainage
project
done.
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
serving
as
chair
person
of
the
public
works
committee
where
things
like
that
come
through
since
2012.,
we
have
not
had
the
money
to
do
it,
it's
not
the
will.
The
money
just
hadn't
been
identified.
H
H
H
I
think
division
has
been
too
small
in
that
when
it
comes
to
raising
this
money,
you
know
sense
and
soft
peddling
around
the
city
of
charleston
had
the
money
to
do
this,
and
I
said
on
the
previous
meeting.
I
think
the
financing
of
this
reminds
me
of
trying
to
throw
jello
up
against
the
wall
and
hoping
it's
gonna.
Stick
I
mean
even
in
in
the
newspaper.
H
Some
of
the
things
that
were
said
was
to
be
determined
to
be
determined,
we're
going
to
go
into
a
billion
dollar
project
with
to
be
determined
one
of
the
best
things
on
this
committee
is
we
have
different
stakeholders,
thank
god,
steve
ports
was
on
there.
I
appreciate
jordy
speaking
up.
I
appreciate
ken
mills.
Speaking
up,
I
speak
appreciate
all
y'all.
Speaking
of
this
is
why?
H
Because
I
think
it's
going
to
lead
to
a
better
financing
solution
in
1984,
the
city
did
a
drainage
study
and
their
projects
that
were
listed
in
1984,
that
we
haven't
come
close
to
doing
in
2021,
so
when
people
wes
ashley,
for
example,
or
james
allen
or
john's
island,
when
you
have
a
councilman,
councilman
griffin
asked
the
question
dale
doing
the
presentation.
What
am
I,
what
was
he
to
say
to
his
constituents
who,
every
time
we
have
a
major,
really
rain
event
and
water
threatens
coming
in
their
home?
H
What
is
he
the
state
of
those
constituents
telling
them
that
three
by
three
is
not
going
to
help
them
at
all?
The
answer
cannot
be.
The
peninsula
has
some
very
important
assets,
colleges
and
universities
and
hospitals
on
the
peninsula.
When
somebody
I
have,
I
have
constituents
when
they.
When
we
get
around
about
three
inches
of
rain
over
the
agmo
area,
we
literally
have
people
having
water
come
in
their
homes.
H
I
don't
mean
the
backyard
getting
filled
up
or
the
front
yard
getting
filled
up
and
those
projects
were
identified
in
1984
and
still
have
yet
to
be
done,
and
it's
not
because
of
bad
council
leadership
of
male
leadership.
We
have
priorities,
they
took
you
know
high
priorities,
but
to
go
into
this
type
project
without
a
comprehensive
approach
and
having
all
the
stakeholders
around
the
table.
We're
gonna
ask
county
council
for
25
million
dollars.
You
see
any
representative
county
council
on
this
committee,
we're
going
to
ask
the
state
for
100
million.
H
H
I
think
when
we
quit
learning,
maybe
they
call
us
home,
but
it's
going
to
be
very,
very
difficult
for
council,
as
I
see
it
to
vote
for
a
plan
that
right
now
it
appears
to
put
one
community
against
the
other
and
I've
thought
about
this.
I
haven't
shared
this
with
councilman
seeking,
but
it's
not
the
people
on
the
battery
of
the
greece
street
on
ansonborough
saying
we
don't
want
to
fix
anything
on
the
upper
peninsula.
We
don't
want
to
fix
up
with
some
of
the
concerns
that
herbert's
talking
about.
H
We
don't
want
to
they're,
not
saying
we
don't
want
to
satisfy
the
concerns
that
kevin
mills
has
about
the
aquarium.
They're
not
saying
forget
those
people
on
james
island
and
john's
island
west.
Actually,
it's
the
leadership,
it's
the
leadership
that
have
carved
out
a
solution
that
says
this
is
the
solution
that
we're
going
to
bring
nicole
in
and
address.
H
H
We
had
a
wonderful
presentation
by
the
brigadier
general
at
the
core
at
the
last
council
meeting
and
you
know,
scored
at
10
to
1,
and
all
of
that
I
agree
with
all
of
that,
but
we're
still
leaving
water
coming
into
people's
homes
and
when
we
do
it
in
a
partial
way,
it's
going
to
suck
whatever
remaining
resources
we
have.
It
has
already
been
1984,
16
and
21..
That's
37
years
that
we've
got
projects
that
have
not
scratched
the
surface
that
not
because
we
don't
want
to
do
them.
H
We
just
don't
have
the
money
to
do
it.
So
now
we
suck
all
the
resources
going
towards
primarily
the
wall
and
to
say
that
we
have
stormwater
fees.
It's
just
knowledge,
it's
not
efficient.
We
don't
have
enough
money,
we
do
have
a
fun,
but
it
gets
going
real
fast.
Let's
put
it
like
that,
I
think
we
raised
and
mike
helped
me
out
with
this
11
12
million
a
year
with
stormwater
fees.
E
H
That
tells
you
when
you're
dealing
with
11
12
million
coming
in
annually.
How
do
you
do
a
five
to
six
hundred
million
dollar
calhoun
west
project?
When
you
look
at
that
map
and
the
dream
field
that
it
would
help
it's
like,
you
know
we
got
to
do
this,
doesn't
matter
what
part
of
town
you
live
in,
you
got
to
do
this
and
for
a
decade
now,
not
only
mike's
been
there
councilman
seeking
he's
been
there
longer
than
I
it's
not
that
he
didn't
want
it
done.
H
It's
not
that
the
the
man
council
didn't
want
that
we
didn't
have
the
revenue
and
we
have
not
put
the
financial
formulas
in
place
and
put
the
allies
around
the
table.
I
still
say
this
needs
to
be
done
on
a
regional
basis.
This
sea
level
rise
is
not
the
cities
of
charleston's
problem
alone
and
we're
approaching
it
as
though,
primarily
as
a
peninsula
problem
and
we're
leaving
money
on
the
table
doing
it.
H
H
But
stakeholders
speak
up
when
steve
post
authority
spoke
up.
I
guess
the
wall
is
gonna
be
moved.
I
would
love
to
hear
what
county
council
has
to
say
if
we're
gonna
ask
them
for
25
million.
I
certainly
would
like
to
see
them
around
the
table.
They
may
have
some
other
areas
of
suggestion
as
well.
Charleston
water
systems,
I
think
they'll
stay
colder.
They
should
be
around
the
table,
but
anyway,
sometimes
that
all
bad
comes.
I'm
good.
H
I
don't
know
how
this
voter's
gonna
go
to
move
forward,
but
I
will
tell
you
what
if
it
doesn't
go
forward,
I
I
would
only
hope
it
would
be
because
we're
trying
to
reach
for
something
better,
not
to
end
something
it
should
be
the
beginning
of
something
better.
If
we
go
forward
in
a
partial
direction,
then
we
have
a
splinter
community,
because
the
person's
got
water
coming
in
their
home
right
now
doesn't
matter
where
they
live
at
even
calhoun
west.
H
H
Right:
850.,
850,
acres,
okay
on
the
peninsula,
850
acres.
So
how
much
it's
already
been
a
decade
that
we've
that
I've
known
about
calhoun
west,
that
I've
been
willing
to
say
give
me
a
chance
to
vote
to
appropriate
the
money.
So
we
could
fix
that.
Okay,
it's
been
a
decade
and
if
I,
when
I
look
forward
to
say
what
resources,
if
we
do
vote
to
go
ahead
with
ped,
how
does
calhoun
west
figuring
that
and
not
on
the
drawing
board?
How
do
we
pay
for
it
and
get
it
done?
H
How
do
we
take
the
action
steps
right
now?
I
don't
know
how
it's
done
and
I
don't
know
anybody
in
the
city
of
charleston,
that's
working
on
the
revenues
and
I'll
say
that
to
the
mail
who's
working
on
the
money
to
get
that
500
600
million
to
take
those
people
in
the
800
acre
dream
field
and
take
them
out
of
jeopardy.
H
H
Come
off
the
peninsula
in
that
little
sports
car
and
I
come
down
wentworth
street
to
go
to
lockwood
and
then
bang,
oh
man,
I
gotta
circle
around.
I
can't
make
it
through
dead
times.
I
can't
make
it
through
in
my
full-size
ford,
f-150
pickup
truck.
I
have
to
turn
around
so
the
people
who
live
there.
They
just
have
to
wait
till
the
water
go
down.
We
can
do
something
about
that.
We
just
need
a
a
a
better
plan
and
I've
y'all.
This
is
the
third
time
y'all
have
heard
me
rant
about
this.
H
Those
half
cent
sales
tax
are
very
powerful.
What
would
a
quarter
of
a
penny
do
if
on
county
wide,
to
go
towards
paying
for
what
we're
talking
about
right
here,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
as
a
city
unto
itself,
we
have
to
include
allies
the
county,
I'm
surprised
the
town
of
my
pleasant,
especially
the
old
town
area,
that
floods-
I'm
surprised
they
haven't,
had
an
opinion
on
this
at
all,
but
maybe
they're
going
to
go
it
alone
as
well.
H
So
I
want
you
all
to
be
clear:
there's
not
the
money
to
do
the
other
projects
that
need
done
to
take
people
out
of
jeopardy
and
pretty
much
all
over
the
city.
You
know
some
of
the
things
that
on
people
on
this
committee
has
talked
about
the
money's
not
there
to
do
it.
Rosemont
should
never
have
the
drainage
problem
that
it
had
today.
It's
just
been
when
the
money
runs
out.
It
runs
out
and
unfortunately,
just
ran
out
on
the
people
and
rules.
H
So,
but
it's
their
time
to
you
know
we
got.
This
is
the
largest
infrastructure
bill
since
eisenhower
came
up
with,
administration
came
up
with
the
interstate
and
what
is
our
strategy
to
get
a
slice
of
that
financial
price?
To
fix
a
generational
problem
that
we
have?
I
should
say
generational
problems
that
we
have.
H
I
don't
know
what
that
strategy
is,
so
bring
your
voices
to
the
table
when
you
come,
don't
think
it's
people
being
selfish,
I'm
part
of
that
leadership
and
if
the
plan
is
to
go
forward
with
a
partial
wall,
partaking
partial
people
in
dream
fields
still
remaining
for
generations
to
come,
I
think
we
can
do
better.
Let's
just
put
it
like
that.
F
F
C
Thank
you.
I
was.
I
listened
to
the
budget
workshop
yesterday
and
I
was
very
pleased
to
see
that
half
a
million
dollar
half
a
million
dollars
is
allocated
to
the
water
management
plan.
I
wanted
to
ask
about
a
timeline
on
that.
Given
the
discussion
that
is
going
on
here,
how
soon
would
it
be
possible
to
pull
together
enough
of
that
plan
to
be
able
to
answer
some
of
these
questions?
That
are,
you
know
on
everybody's
mind
and
have
been
since
1984..
A
Yeah
sure
so
thank
you,
cosman
waring
for
the
expertise
and
the
insight
to
sharing-
and
you
know,
I'm
happy
to
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
this
with
anyone.
We
have
been
speaking
at
a
staff
level
with
folks
in
the
county,
we're
going
up
in
early
december
to
speak
with
folks
in
the
state.
We
have
this
discussion
about
financing
other
mechanisms.
We
are
working
on
this.
We.
A
Concrete
yet
until
there's
a
final
plan
and
then
we
go
through
ped
to
see
how
we're
going
to
build
it
and
that's
going
to
take
some
time
so
there
is,
there
is
an
opportunity
here
to
figure
out
how
we
pay
for
this
and
your
investment,
so
it
isn't
an
either
or
situation
here.
The
city
of
charleston
has
to
do
best.
It's
what
the
dutch
dialogues
team
said
is
what
anyone
else
is.
A
You
have
to
be
able
to
do
both
of
these
things,
because
the
stormwater
will
overwhelm
you
on
an
insidious
day
or
monthly
basis
right
this
calhoun
west
solution
and
other
solutions
around
the
city
absolutely
absolutely
correct,
and
I
agree
100
with
that.
Let's,
let's
make
no
mistake
about
that.
A
surge
event
will
devastate
the
city
and
devastate
a
lot
of
other
things
around
the
city,
so
we
have
to
be
able
to
do
both
it's
not
either
or
it's,
and-
and
that's
my
that's
how
I
approach
this.
So
you
have
my
commitment.
A
Make
it
clear
here
that
we
need
that.
I
agree.
We
need
to
do
both
and
where
do
we
get
the
money?
Yeah?
The
arp
is
one
thing
you
know
the
arp
is
going
to
be
rolled
out
over
five
years
and
those
projects
will
be
constructed
over
probably
another
five
to
15
years.
You
know
infrastructure
money
gets
pushed
out,
but
it
doesn't
get
absorbed
quickly.
A
A
A
A
I
mean
that
the
consultants
needs
need
to
understand
all
the
integration
of
of
you
know:
spatial
planning
and
land
use,
and
what's
already
on
the
books
and
the
direction
that
the
city
is
already
set
on
those
issues
and
then
looking
at
the
various
water
challenges
and
the
reference
to
the
1984
drainage
plan.
I'm
sorry,
but
that's
probably
out
of
date
the
city
has
grown
so
much.
The
drainage
system
has
changed
so
much.
The
occupation
of
the
land
has
changed
so
much.
A
So
I
mean
a
water
plane
is
going
to
take
some
time
in
new
orleans.
That
was
a
three
million
dollar
effort.
A
three
million
dollar
water
plan.
Warren's
is
much
bigger.
That
took
three
years
so
again,
I
I
wouldn't
assume
it's
done
in
three
months.
I
would
assume
from
the
day
it's
procured
and
you
put
a
consultant
team
to
do
it
assume
a
year
and
you
can
nudge
them
hard
to
do
nine
months.
But
do
you
really
want
to
rush
this
important
work?
F
I
I
I
G
I
can
I
can
address
the
timeline
per
the
last
committee
meeting.
It
was
agreed
that
the
I
I
don't
want
to
say
final,
because
this
committee
is
ongoing,
but
the
language
recommendations
for
ped
based
off
of
the
timeline
we
were
given
for
by
the
core
and
when
the
council
needs
to
make
their
decision
would
be
placed
on
next
the
23rd
agenda
for
city
council.
G
I
I
obviously
if,
if
we
don't,
if
the
committee
doesn't
come
to
an
agreement,
there
won't
be
anything
to
present
on
tuesday
and
we
would
remove
that
item
from
the
agenda
and
would
have
to
then
push
it
to
the
next
city
council
meeting.
So
apologies
for
the
word
must
it's
just
if
we
want
to
keep
that
presentation
by
the
chair
on
this
upcoming
tuesday
council
meeting.
G
I
mean,
I
guess
the
committee,
if
they
don't
come
to
a
conclusion
today,
could
potentially
have
an
additional
meeting
between
now
and
the
council,
but
understanding
we
only
have
eight
of
the
voting
members
of
the
committee
on
right.
Now
I
don't
know
the
likelihood
of
aligning
schedules
between
now
and
tuesday
and
considering
of
a
holiday
going
up.
So
that
was
the
only
timeline
push
if
you
will
based
off
of
what
the
committee
agreed
to
do
the
presentation
at
council
on
the
23rd.
G
So
I
guess
the
decision
now
would
be
to
make
if
the
committee
would
want
to
move
forward
with
voting
on
this,
this
language,
as
is
now
or
push
the
council
presentation
to
a
later
date,
but
keeping
in
mind
that
council
themselves
will
need
to
be
bringing
this
up
lightly
by
the
end
of
the
year.
So
that's
that's
the
timeline
reference.
F
Hey
dan,
real
quick,
just
let
me
before
just
to
piggyback
on
that
and
you
might
have
additional
commentary
here.
The
the
two
things
you
mentioned
were
already
approved:
recommendations
that
a
little
that
have
been
presented
to
city
council
and
will
be
presented
again
in
accordance
with
this
whole
document,
so
not
to
jump
in
front.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
point
got
across.
I
Okay,
great,
that
that's
fantastic,
I
love
reiteration
and
redundancy,
so
that's
all
good,
but
on
the
timeline,
so
caitlyn
you're
thinking
that
the
city
council
members
will
be
voting
on
this.
When
I
mean
I
know
we
can
look
at
the
calendar,
do
we
know
what
meeting
that
this
will
be
brought
for
a
vote.
G
I
don't
it's
not
been
set
yet,
but
from
what
and
they'll
feel
free
to
chime
in,
but
from
what
the
army
corps
has
told
us
is
that
they
would
need
those
letters
of
certification
by
it
could
be
pushed
to
later
january.
So,
based
off
of
that
time,
frame
and
and
given
council
has
their
budget
work
as
well.
A
A
A
A
So
we
need
to
be
clear
about
that,
because
in
the
political
processes
on
the
hill
the
corps
of
engineers
is
going
to
say.
We
have
willing
federal,
willing,
local
sponsors
for
this
project
and
this
project
and
this
project
and
this
project,
but
we
don't
have
it
for
charleston.
Okay
charleston
doesn't
want
to
help
okay,
we
won't
push
it
and
the
the
army
corps
will
direct
its
attention
elsewhere.
A
B
A
B
B
A
F
Well,
thank
you
right
now
I
mean
the
changes
I'm
seeing
here
are
fairly
minor.
I
mean,
if
you
have
an
opportunity
to
you,
know,
go
ahead
and
memorialize
this
then
I
and
you
know
me
the
time
frame
knowing
budget
season's
here.
Knowing
that
the
you
know,
charleston
city
council
is
going
to
need
the
additional
time
for
liberation,
I
just
would
prefer
we
give
them
more
time
than
less
bob.
I
see
your
hands
up.
B
F
Good
deal
is
there
any
other,
so
thank
you
all
for
this
additional
suggested
language.
Is
there
any
other
language
that
y'all
would
like
to
have
here
and
then
I
can
always
download
with
the
offline
we
can
add
in
stuff,
on
the
other
recommendations
as
well,
so
yeah
it's
an
additional
commentary.
However,
you
want
to
phrase
it.
So,
let's
we'll
just
circle
up
offline
on
that.
I
G
F
G
G
F
G
H
G
You're
right,
I
guess,
then,
if
we
took
the
vote
now
and
that
would
be
the
discretion
of
the
chair,
there
wouldn't
be
a
majority
or
quorum
of
the
committee
to
move
this
language
on
to
the
presentation.
At
this
point,
assuming
if
every
member
were
to
support
that
action,
we
only
have.
We
only
have
we
have
nine
members
on
right
now,
including
you
and
councilman
seeking
council
member
wearing
and
if,
if
you
both
abstain
from
voting,
that
would
not
leave
enough
majority
of
the
committee
to.
H
H
F
No,
no,
I
I
think
that's
fair,
I
mean
so
what
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
go
ahead
and
move
forward
under
that.
If
there's
anything
else
we
have
to
do
additionally,
then
let's
then
we
can
schedule
to
figure
it
out,
but
I
appreciate
appreciate
you
councilman
waring
and
in
that
comment,
so
with
that
said,
can
you
put
that
language
back
up
kailyn.
C
F
You
know
my
frankly
at
the
moment.
This
is
all
procedural.
Really
I
mean
you
know.
Councilman
waring
had
a
good
point.
I
mean
we
do
have
a
quorum
here,
obviously
a
time
frame
that
language
was
sent
out
without
any
commentary
in
the
interim
time
since
since
friday,
when
it
was
sent
so
everybody's
had
ample
time
to
look
at
it.
We've
been
talking
about
this
since
february.