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City of Charleston Army Corps 3x3 Advisory Committee 9/10/21
A
Present
to
us
on
this
early
on
this,
this
release
date
of
this,
the
updated
data
document.
So
a
couple
of
of
items
just
find
this
is
you
know
we
have
an
hour
here,
not
much
time,
especially
given
the
important
material.
A
You
know
the
core
was
great,
just
gracious
enough
to
give
their
time
to
us
to
present
this,
let's
just
focus
on
keeping
any
sort
of
questions
follow-up,
which
susan,
I
saw
your
question.
We
will
have
time
for
just
strictly
directed
to
the
core,
and
then
you
will
have
additional
time
traditional
city
follow-up.
A
You
know
at
our
follow-up
meeting
so
anyway
just
wanted
to
make
that
point,
and
with
that
I
will
go
ahead
and
hand
it
over
to
the
court.
B
All
right,
good
morning,
sir,
I'm
having
some
technical
difficulties,
my
computer's
yelling
at
me,
my
phone's,
disconnecting
so,
can
you
guys
hear
me
loud
and
clear,
hey
good,
you
guys
good
all
right.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
again.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
get
the
all
right.
Hang
on.
C
Yeah
meredith-
and
I
will
take
some
time
while
you're
doing
that,
so
I
I'm
nancy
parrish.
I
am
the
chief
of
planning
with
the
corps
of
engineers
in
charleston
district,
so
feasibility
studies
are
my
responsibility
to
see
that
they
are
executed
within
our
policy
and
I
have
met
several
of
you.
I
know
I've
been
at
these
kinds
of
meetings
before
so
I
will
be
helping
wes
with
some
of
his
question
and
answer.
C
C
If
you
could
take
a
couple
minutes
and
just
tell
this
group
about
your
experience
and
credentials
with
the
corps
of
engineers,
so
they
know
who
we've
got
on
the
team.
D
Okay,
great
so
hi
good
morning,
my
name
is
my
name
is
meredith
moreno,
I'm
with
the
army
corps
of
engineers
in
I
actually
sit
in
jacksonville
district,
but
because
charleston
district
unfortunately
doesn't
have
a
cultural
resources
specialist
within
their
civil
war
works
section
they
reached
out
to
me,
I'm
the
most
senior
archaeologist
cultural
resources
specialist
within
sad,
besides
nancy
herself,
who's,
who
else's
background
is
in
cultural
resources
management
so
so
happy
to
help.
I've
been
in
cultural
resources
management
for
a
little
over
15
years.
D
The
last
six
of
those
have
been
with
the
corps
of
engineers.
I
do
have
written
a
lot
of
programmatic
agreements
for
the
core,
which
is,
which
is
what
we'll
talk
about
in
a
minute
and
and
basically
it
just
outlines
the
process
by
which
the
core
and
our
partners
will
comply
with
cultural
resources,
laws
and
regulations
going
through
the
entirety
of
the
project.
D
So
I've
worked
a
lot
in
puerto
rico.
Florida
north
carolina,
south
carolina
and
looks
like
wes,
is
good
to
go
so
throughout
the
the
entirety
of
sad
and
for
all
the
districts
within
sad,
so
so,
hopefully,
you're
you're
in
good
hands.
Here.
For
your
cultural
resources
in
charleston,
so
thanks
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
guys
today.
I
appreciate
it.
B
And
good
morning,
folks,
I
think
I
got
this
thing
figured
out.
My
name
is
wes
wilson.
I
think
I've
met
a
good
amount
of
you
throughout
the
past
three
years.
B
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
give
you
guys
an
update
on
our
latest
and
greatest
plan,
and
then
we
will
continue
working
together
through
the
next,
obviously
the
45
days
for
the
community
engagement
portion
and
then
beyond
through
the
next
phases
of
the
study.
So
with
that
being
said,
mark
or
or
hey
good,
any
other
opening
remarks
before
we
get
started.
B
All
right
well
I'll
dive
into
it,
and
then
so
this
is
super
informal,
hey
good!
Is
the
plan
to
wait
till
the
end
for
questions
and
answers
or
do
okay,
all
right
sounds
good
all
right,
so
thank
you
meredith
for
that
introduction.
I
always
like
to
start
with
a
slide
of
well.
You
know
why
we're
here
more
or
less.
This
is
the
charleston
peninsula
coastal
flood
risk
management
study.
B
B
B
Going
back
and
talking
a
little
bit
about
the
history
in
april
of
2020,
we
released
a
integrated
feasibility
report
and
environmental
assessment
in
march
of
2021,
we
transitioned
from
an
environmental
assessment
to
an
environment,
environmental
impact
statement,
and
this
enabled
the
corps
of
engineers
to
do
more.
Modeling
analysis
on
project
impacts,
consult
with
our
stakeholders,
define
more
mitigation
measures,
offer
expanded
public
engagement
through
additional
public
meetings,
and
here
we
are
today
with
a
big
milestone
of
releasing
an
updated
draft
report
for
the
public
to
review
and
just
for
folks
to
remember
here.
B
This
is
just
one
piece
of
the
city
of
charleston's
long-range
flooding
strategy,
so
this
is
all
often
referred
to
it.
As
the
piece
of
the
puzzle.
We
look
at
obviously
coastal
storm
surge.
However,
we
also
take
into
account
title
flooding
and
sea
level
rise
into
account
in
our
analysis,
and
I
will
just
say
that
you
guys
the
the
city
of
charleston
has
been
an
exceptional
partner
in
all
this
and
mark
we're
going
to
miss.
B
You
dale
welcome
aboard
we're
going
to
continue
our
relationship
through
the
remainder
of
the
study
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
the
city
through
the
remainder
of
feasibility
working
with
our
stakeholders
and
the
public
through
the
remainder
of
feasibility.
B
B
We
all
know
we're
surrounded
here
on
the
peninsula
by
three
bodies
of
water,
the
harbor,
the
ashley
and
the
cooper,
and
that
poses
coastal
storm
surge
poses
a
grave
threat
to
the
human
health,
life
and
safety
emergency
access
to
our
critical
infrastructure,
on
the
peninsula,
to
our
historic
and
cultural
resources
and
to
the
economic
sustainability.
B
So
with
that,
that's
that's!
Why
we're
here
today,
you
know
the
reason.
One
of
the
main
reasons
we
went.
Transition
from
an
ea
to
an
eis
was
based
on
the
public
and
agency
feedback
that
we
received
during
a
similar
time
in
april
of
2020.,
so
that
tren
that
broadened
our
review
process
refined
it's
our
analysis
and
and
it's
going
to
expand
our
engagement
by
duke
by
transitioning
from
the
ea
to
an
eis.
B
We
did
have
to
extend
our
study
schedule
by
10
months,
so
the
new,
the
new
study
completion
date
was
switched
from
october
of
2021
to
august
of
2022.
B
All
right,
so
that
being
said,
I'll
talk
about
some
big
changes
in
our
optimized
plan,
so
I'll
call
it
the
optimized
plan.
You
also
hear
me
refer
to
it
as
the
tentatively
selected
plan.
But
what
does
the
optimize
and
plan
include?
So
that's
the
graphic
on
the
right
is
gonna.
If
let
me
go
ahead
and
do
one
thing
here
and
get
everybody
a
little
bit
better
view.
B
B
Those
nature
based
features
we
are
proposing,
are
essentially
oyster,
living
shoreline
cells
and
will
complement
the
combination,
while
in
the
marsh
to
help
reduce
erosion
of
the
wall.
It
will
also
maintain
wetlands
in
front
of
the
wall
and
we
will
determine
the
specific
design
and
methods
during
the
design
phase.
But,
as
you
can
see,
those
are
noted
by
the
blue
line
and
the
map
on
the
right.
B
B
So
with
all
these
changes
taking
place,
our
benefit,
cost
ratio
has
increased
from
2.2
to
10.2,
and
I
will
say
that
is
one
of
the
strongest
benefit
cost
ratios.
I've
seen
on
one
of
these
similar
projects
so
based
on
that,
what
does
a
high
bcr
mean,
and
essentially
what
does
it
mean?
It's
a
higher
benefit.
Cost
ratio
essentially
means
the
project
yields
more
annual
benefits
than
it
does
cost,
and
this
is
an
important
consideration
in
congress's
review
of
civil
works
projects
for
future
funding.
B
Is
one
second.
B
Is
reduced
impacts
to
project
wetlands,
as
I
stated
earlier,
we
went
from
111
acres
to
35
acres,
and
this
was
mainly
taken
into
account
moving
the
wall
from
the
marsh
to
the
high
ground
we
added
aesthetic,
so
we
updated
environmental
justice.
There
were
two
new
executive
orders
that
came
out
in
2021
and
we
determined
that
the
combined
features
of
the
plan
would
improve
the
resilience
of
the
entire
peninsula
and
provide
protection
to
economic
communities
without
disproportionately
burdening
the
minority
and
low-income
communities
and
to
augment
protection
in
areas
where
construction
of
a
wall
was
impractical.
B
The
studies
recommending
non-structural
solutions
in
rosemont
bridgeview
and
then
raising
utilities
in
the
laons
point
area,
also
the
by
transitioning
from
an
ea
to
an
eis.
It
will
give
us
more
opportunity
to
engage
these
communities
and
discuss
the
non-structural
plan
that
we
have
in
place.
We
did
visit
rosemont
at
the
end
of
july.
B
B
And
then
moving
down
aesthetic
mitigation,
so
this
was
a
new
change
again
transitioning
from
an
ea
to
an
eis
made
us
do
a
hard
look
at
our
mitigation
proposal
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
didn't
account
for
in
our
draft
ea
was
aesthetic
mitigation.
B
Next
bullet
down
is
we've
refined,
pump,
sizes
and
locations
so
on
the
map
on
the
right,
the
red
dots
are
permanent
pump
stations
that
are
conceptual
just
like
the
storm
surge
role.
The
conceptual
locations
they're
in
similar
size
to
the
concord
street
pump
station,
that's
down
there
by
the
aquarium,
and
we
also
have
temporary
pump
stations
that
we
would
deploy
before
storm
event
and
those
are
located
by
the
the
blue
flags
on
the
map
on
the
right.
B
So
we
looked
at
during
our
optimization
phase.
One
of
the
questions
that
we
got
in
the
in
april
of
2020
was
well.
The
project
calls
the
bathtub
effect
and
we've
refined
our
interior
drainage
analysis
to
ensure
that
we
would
mitigate
any
interior
flooding
caused
by
the
storm
surge
wall
and
that's
why
we
have
these
pump
stations
placed
where
they
are
today,
so
that
would
alleviate
the
potential
bathtub
effect.
B
Excuse
me
another
big
comment
we
had
in
our
last
report
released.
Was
we
put
this
wall
in
place?
Where
does
the
water
go?
Does
the
water
go
to
james
allen,
west
ashley,
daniel
island,
mount
pleasant
and
the
other
communities?
B
So
will
the
wall
adversely
impact
surrounding
communities?
So
we
did
the
modeling.
We
did
the
analysis.
We
did
the
thorough
review
and
whether
the
wall
would
deflect
water
or
increase
flooding
in
these
surrounding
areas
and,
according
to
the
analysis
and
our
modeling,
the
wall
induced
a
marginal
difference
in
water
surface
elevation,
an
increase
of
around
an
inch
of
water
that
would
have
statistically
occurred
during
a
severe
storm
surge
event
in
these
areas.
B
B
So
steady
cost
drivers,
so
this
is
again.
This
is
what
how
the
costs
were.
Increased
decrease
based
on
our
on
our
latest
analysis,.
B
B
These
cost
share
amounts.
The
385
million
is
not
required
up
front
and
is
broken
up
based
on
our
annual
requirements
over
each
physical
year.
Let
me
give
you
an
example:
I'll
come
to
the
city
and
say
city:
we
we
want
to
start
design
phase
and
I'm
just
going
to
use
big
round
numbers.
That
right
now
is
you
know
in
fy
22
we
could
start
developing
a
e
scopes
of
work
for
all
all
of
our
design
activities
and
we're
going
to
need
350
000.
B
B
By
moving
the
wall
from
from
marsh
to
land,
we
reduced
this
environmental
mitigation
cost
approximately
125
million
dollars
again
by
moving
the
wall
from
march
to
high
ground
we've
reduced
the
construction
cost
approximately
125
million
dollars
it's
three
times
more
expensive
to
build
the
wall
in
the
marsh
than
it
is
on
high
ground.
B
We
reduced
pump
costs
in
our
draft
ea.
We
had
done,
we
hadn't
done
any
of
the
interior,
hydrology
modeling
and
the
pump
sizes
we
assumed
were
similar
to
size
of
what
they
have
in
new
orleans.
So
after
we
did
our
interior
hydrology
modeling,
we
knocked
those
down
to
something
similar
to
the
concord
street
pump
station.
B
We
eliminated
the
breakwater
costs.
The
breakwater
provided
no
standalone
benefit
with
the
wall
in
place
only
cost.
So
what
that
means
is,
if
you
built
no
wall,
and
you
just
had
the
break
water,
it
wouldn't
stop
any
storm
surge
flooding,
so
it
would
provide
no
added
benefit.
It
would
reduce
the
reduced
damages.
Would
be
you
wouldn't
notice
any
see,
that's
why
you
would
have
to
have
the
wall
in
place.
B
We
refined
non-structural
costs,
we've
added
non-structure,
we've
added
additional
non-structural
cost
to
rosemont
and
bridgeview
to
ensure
that
they
are
taken
care
of
for
home,
raising
and
flood
proofing
and
we've
increased
cultural
mitigation
costs,
and
this
was
done
through
consultations
with
all
of
our
cultural
resource
agencies
and
we've
added
aesthetic
mitigation
costs
to
our
cost
estimate
and
those
aesthetic
mitigation
costs
are
around
50
million
dollars.
B
So
the
the
graphic
on
the
right
is
some
areas
in
west
ashley,
james
island,
daniel
island,
and
then
we
looked
at
mount
pleasant
as
well,
and
essentially
that
the
coastal
modeling
that
we
used
analyzed
these
areas
and
determined
the
marginal
difference
in
water
surface
elevation
of
around
an
inch
in
just
a
small
number
of
areas,
and
you
can
see
the
graph
on
the
left.
I'm
sorry,
the
the
bar
charts
are
showing
the
bottom
numbers
are
the
the
storms
we
ran
through
our
coastal
model.
B
And
then
going
back
to
why
we
are
here
today,
I
know
everyone
has
seen
this.
This
is
my
next
two
slides
are
some
of
my
favorite,
so
life
safety
without
a
project,
the
the
the
picture
on
the
left
is
a
similar
surge
inundation
map
as
to
what
hurricane
hugo
would
have
done
on
the
peninsula
and
based
on
this
half
the
police
stations,
almost
half
the
health
care
facilities
and
25
29
of
the
fire
stations
are
at
risk
of
damages
from
a
similar
surge
to
hugo,
with
our
project
in
place
in
2082.
B
B
All
right,
I
got
two
timeline
slides
and
website
slide
and
and
then
we
can
take
questions
and
answers.
So
again,
this
is
a
four-phased
approach.
We're
in
the
feasibility
phase
right
now,
we're
marching
towards
the
end
of
that
through
four
years
to
get
assigned
chiefs
report
over
to
congress
will
then
enter
a
design
phase,
a
construction
phase
after
the
construction
phase,
we
turn
over
the
keys
to
the
city
of
charleston
and
then
they're
in
the
operation
and
maintain
phase
or
the
o
m
phase.
B
All
right,
so,
what's
what's
coming
up
here,
we
are
here
today
september
10th,
big
milestone.
We
have
released
our
draft
report,
it
is
available
on
our
website.
We
have
a
charleston
city
council,
update
on
september
14th.
B
We
are
planning
a
public
meeting
on
october
5th
and
then
the
comment
review
period
ends
october
25th
on
november
15th.
The
corps
of
engineers
holds
an
internal,
we
call
it
an
agency
decision
milestone
and
that's
when
our
tentatively
selected
plan
that
that
you
also
hear
me
refer
to
today
comes
becomes
our
recommended
plan
and
we
have
our
agency
buy-in.
So
the
corps
of
engineers
has
bought
into
our
recommended
are
bought
into
our
plan
and
then
in
december,
we've
got
some
things
that
the
city
will
owe
us.
Before
we
can
finalize
our
report.
B
B
We
are,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
are
working
on
a
memorandum
of
understanding
to
assess
visual
impacts
and
fed
phase,
and
this
will
be
an
agreement
between
the
city
of
charleston
and
corps
of
engineers
and
then
finally,
the
city
signed
memorandum
agreement
that
meredith
briefed
earlier
in
the
in
the
presentation
early
next
calendar
year.
We
hold
one
more
quality
and
technical
review
of
all
of
our
documents
and
then,
in
march
2022
we
submit
our
final
report
to
our
division
office
in
atlanta
in
june
2022.
B
We
hold
one
final
state
and
agency
review,
so
this
is
essentially
all
the
comments
that
folks
have
provided
during
the
next
45
days.
You
can
go
in
and
see
how
they
were
incorporated
into
the
plan.
This
will
not
be
a
formal
comment
period.
This
will
just
be
one
final
review
of
the
report
and
then
in
august,
2022
we'll
have
a
signed
chiefs
report.
B
So
with
that
being
said,
our
website
is
up
to
date
with
the
latest
and
greatest
information.
The
link
is
provided
there.
You
can
also
go
to
google
and
army
corps
of
engineers,
charleston
peninsula
study.
They'll.
Take
you
right.
There
we've
got
the
latest
report.
We've
got
some
updated,
frequently
asked
questions.
So
if
I
wasn't
clear
today,
a
lot
of
the
content
and
my
messaging
is
based
on
those
faqs.
B
We've
got
our
eis
scoping
video
that
we
held
in
march
of
2021
and
we
will
be
posting
future
public
videos,
future
study,
videos,
sorry
so
I'll
get
a
copy
of
the
charleston
city
council
update
on
tuesday
and
then
any
other
public
meetings
we
can
share
we'll
add
those
to
the
website
as
well.
B
So
with
that
being
said,
oh
one
more
thing
how
to
comment.
So,
while
the
folks
here,
we
will
take
a
number
of
different
ways
to
comment
one,
you
can
email
your
comments
to
the
link
up
at
the
top.
B
You
can
write
comments
and
send
them
into
our
planning
environmental
branch.
We
also
have
a
electronic
form
on
our
website.
That's
pretty
easy
to
use
pretty
straightforward
and
to
remind
everybody
that
the
end
of
the
comment
period
is
october,
25th
2021!
So
please
get
in
all
your
comments
before
then.
B
So
that
is
all
I
have
hey
good.
I
will
stop
sharing
or
I
can
minimize
this
for
now.
So
we
can
ask
some.
A
Thank
you
by
the
way,
thank
you
very
much
wes
go
ahead
and
and
ensure
that
a
lot
of
comments
will
relate
to
materials.
Probably
sure
it'll
be
a
great
visual
aid
to
have
you
know
I'll
I'll.
You
know
just
I'll
go
ahead
and
manage
comments.
Everybody
just
kind
of
put
your
hands
up.
If
you
don't
mind
I'll,
just
call
in
the
order
that
I
see
everybody
so
anyway
I'll
go
ahead
and
lead
off
here
I
saw
you
know
we
went
through
a
lot
of
the
cost
side.
A
Obviously
the
benefit
cost
ratio
is,
is
a
huge
update
going
from.
I
think
it
was
somewhere
in
the
low
twos.
Up
to
you
know,
over
10.
is
a
huge
deal.
We
went
through
the
cost
side
of
it,
which
you
know
I'm
going
off
memory
say
it
was
a
you
know,
a
little
bit
somewhere
between
a
billion
and
a
half
and
two
billion
down
to
1.1
billion.
Can
you
go
through
the
the
benefit
side
of
it
and
and
kind
of
what
changed
there.
B
Yeah,
no,
that's
a
good
question:
hey
good,
so
there's
three
main
factors:
one
we
reduce
costs
right,
reduce
costs,
raise
your
benefits.
B
We
updated
the
price
levels
on
the
peninsula
from
2019
to
2021,
so
that
updated
your
total
structural
inventory
that
we're
basing
our
damages
off.
Of
and
third,
during
our
technical
review
of
the
draft
report,
our
technical
reviewers
in
the
corps
of
engineers
wanted
more
details
provided
in
our
economics
model
and
by
providing
more
details,
we
got
more
quote-unquote,
accurate
results.
A
Thank
you
I
see,
can
I
can
I.
B
Have
can
I
add
one
thing
here
so
if
everybody
remembers,
this
is
a
draft
report
right,
so
these
numbers
are
subject
to
change
through
the
review
process
and
you
can
see
how
much
they've
changed
since
the
last
report.
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
caveat
out
there,
hey
good,
real
fast,
so
the
the
price,
the
estimates,
the
benefit
cost
ratio,
could
change
by
final
report.
E
Hi
on
the
cost
issue,
since
this
project
is
estimated
to
go
out
some
15
years,
I'm
wondering
whether
the
army
corps
has
calculated
the
inflation
rate
and
how
that
would
affect
the
total
both
for
the
feds
and
for
the
city
share.
B
B
We
have
another
cost
column,
that's
based
on
inflation
and
I
think
we're
estimating
about
20
inflation.
For
that
number.
I
don't
have
that
exact
number
handy
at
the
time,
but
what
we,
what
we
use
to
calculate
the
benefit
cost
ratios
and
typically
what
we
be,
what
we
brief
the
the
public
is
based
on
project
first
cost,
because
that's
the
one
that
we
calculate
are
average
annual
cost
compared
to
our
average
annual
benefits
to
determine
our
benefit
cost
ratio.
B
Again,
I
don't
have
that
exact
number,
but
it
I
believe
our
inflation
number
is
about
19.
It's
in
our
cost
appendix
and
I'll
have
to
go
in
there
and
look,
and
I
can
get
that
to
you.
A
Laura,
I
saw
your
hand
up
following
that,
and
also
please
use
the
chat
function
if
you're
not
on
video
just
anyway.
Let
me
know
you
have
a
a
question,
but
laura
go
for
it.
E
Great,
thank
you
wes.
Thank
you
for
this
information.
I'm
really
very
hopeful,
and
I
understand
that
you
walked
us
through
the
highlights
of
the
changes
based
on
the
public
comment,
and
I
see
in
the
faq
section
on
your
website
that
those
highlights
are
listed.
My
question
is:
is
there
an
appendix
or
some
document
that
accompanies
the
the
draft
report
that
outlines
how
you
adjudicated
the
public
comments?
So
is
there
more
information
about
that?
We
can
understand
the
details
of
the
changes
that
you
incorporated.
B
Okay,
so
we
are,
we
don't
have
it
published
yet,
but
we
are.
We
should
have
a
storyboard
out
there
at
some
point
today
that
details
that
I
do
want
to
also
make
an
important
note
about
how
we
handled
the
the
public
comments
from
the
last
period.
One
second
here,
so
we
got
over
750
comments
on
our
draft
ea
and
we
considered
all
those
comments
and
they
helped
us
inform
the
decision
of
moving
from
an
ea
to
an
eis
and
they
were.
B
So
if
the
public
provided
comments
on
our
draft
ea,
we
would
like
them
to
to
submit
any
new
comments
on
our
proposed
plan
during
the
next
45-day
period.
So
we
won't.
We
will
only
consider
new
comments
submitted
during
our
45-day
period
to
help
us
shape
the
future
of
this
optimized
plan.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
important
note
as
well.
A
Thank
you
dennis.
I
see
your
your
hand
up.
A
Well,
yes,
hey
good
presentation,
wesson
thanks
the
images
of
what
the
seawall
will
look
like
like
say,
along
lockwood
from
the
peninsula,
all
the
way
to
the
citadel
area.
Have
you
got
any
of
those?
I
didn't
see
them
on
the
website,
but
are
those
going
to
be
part
of
your
presentation
to
the
city.
B
So
at
this
time
we
don't
have
any
renderings
developed
for
what
the
wall
will
look
like
all
the
renderings
will
be
developed
as
part
of
the
design
process.
When
we
determine
the
exact
location.
C
This
is
nancy.
I
just
want
to
add
to
that
that
the
design
phase
is
the
next
phase
after
feasibility
is
completed
and
the
city
remains
a
partner
during
that
phase,
so
the
city
will
have
input
on
the
on
the
design
and
will
partner
through
the
design
period.
So
it
won't
be
something
that
the
core
comes
up
with
and
just
hands
you,
you
know
without
any,
without
any
feedback
or
input
from
the
city.
A
West,
would
you
mind
pulling
up
the
the
presentation
just
to
have
that
that
visual
with
us,
the
the
revised-
I
guess
plan-
would
be
the
way
to
put
that
aerial.
A
B
Not
have
been
hey,
are
you
talking
about?
You
want
me
to
do
slideshow
view.
B
B
B
B
The
area
between
I-26,
all
the
way
down
to
the
battery
would
have
to
be
one
phase,
but
now
that
we
were
able
to
tie
it
into
high
ground
at
the
citadel,
we
could
phase
this
go
with
a
phased
approach
in
the
future.
If
we
need
to.
A
Can
you
elaborate
on
that
wes
yeah,
I'm
sorry
buddy.
I
I
have
one
views
question.
Please
please
pipe
in.
Let
me
know
so.
Yeah.
B
Yeah,
so
so,
if
we,
if
we
went
with
the,
if
we
didn't
tie
into
high
ground
at
the
citadel,
we
would
not
be
able
to,
we
would
have
to
build,
we
call
it
the
marina
model
area
and
that
would
extend
from
the
battery
all
the
way
up
to
I-26
along
ashley.
That
would
have
been
on
the
left-hand
side
since
we're
able
to
phase
it
a
little
bit
better.
B
On
the
on
the
right
hand,
side,
we
can
start
construction
at
the
battery
and
then
tie
it
into
the
sill
at
high
ground,
and
that
could
be
essentially
phase
one
or
you
know
whatever
phase
we'd
elect
to
move
forward
with
and
then
do
subsequent
phases.
After,
because
a
lot
of
the
times
federal
funding
comes
in
in
chunks
it
it
doesn't
come
in
at
one
time,
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
could
stay.
Go
with
a
phased
approach
for
construction
in
the
future,
if
needed,.
A
F
Thanks
again,
wesson
team,
great
great,
concise
presentation,
two
questions:
one
is
aesthetic
mitigation,
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
the
bigger
scheme
of
things
not
significant
dollars,
but
just
interested
in
the
nature
of
what
that
what
those
dollars
would
go
for.
Is
that
wall
or
walkways
or
is
there
any
detail
on
that.
F
B
B
Right,
yes,
sir,
and
we
have
some
conceptual
ideas
that
we
work
with
the
city
of
charles
and
other
stakeholders
to
develop,
and
these
helped
us
face
where
we
are
with
our
cost
estimate.
B
F
Great
a
quick
second
question:
the
breakwater,
the
elimination
of
the
breakwater
discussions
during
the
first
draft
review
period.
I
thought
that
that
was
well
justified,
not
for
an
extensive
benefit
area.
I
mean
my
recollection
was
that
it
did
provide
incremental
benefit,
but
for
a
relatively
small
footprint,
and
now
we
now
we've
determined
that
there
is
no
incremental
benefit.
Doesn't
it
protect
the
wall
as
a
minimum.
B
No,
so
we
did,
we
went
back.
We
took
a
hard
look
at
our
economic
modeling
and
the
way
that
it
was
modeled
wasn't
put
in
the
system
the
way
it
should
be
so
without
a
wall
in
place,
the
break
water
reduced,
no
damages
on
the
peninsula
all
right.
So
the
water
goes
around
the
break
water,
it
finds
low
ground
and
it
damages
property
infrastructure
with
a
wall
and
a
break
water.
The
benefits
are
the
same,
so
you're
only
adding
costs
by
having
a
breakwater.
B
A
I
am
going
to
ask
a
question
for
dan
dan
batista
during
the
design
phase.
Will
the
alignment
of
the
wall
be
moved?
A
For
example,
the
eastern
edge
of
the
peninsula
is
not
protected,
and
so,
if
you
could
west
just
during
the
design
phase,
you
know
oh
yeah,
yeah
willie
alignment
be
moved
and
then,
if
you
could
speak
specifically
to
the
eastern
edge
of
the
peninsula,.
B
We
have
a
lot
of
engineering
analysis
to
do.
Geotechnical,
subsurface
exploration.
We've
got
to
do
surveys,
utilities,
the
city
of
charleston,
is
responsible
to
get
the
real
estate
easements
to
say
concretely
today
that
the
alignment's
gonna
move.
I
can't
I
can't
say
that
for
sure,
until
we
get
into
the
design
phase
and
start
doing
that
heavy
lifting,
like
I
said
on
subsurface
exploration
surveys,
real
estate,
acquisitions
and
challenges-
I
mean
charleston-
is
a
very
historic
city,
so
cultural
and
archaeology
surveys
we'd
have
to
do
so.
B
A
Understood,
thank
you,
cash
and
I
saw
you
next
and
then
and
susan's
already
directly
after
that.
So
that's
where
we
will
go
in,
but
yeah
cash
and
fire
away.
E
Good
morning,
wes
and
team,
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
This
was
very
helpful
and
informative
wes.
If
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
to
see
level
rise
and
the
modeling
and
this
final
draft
report,
you
know
the
city
is
projecting
two
to
three
feet
over
the
next
50
years
and
there
in
their
climate
change
strategy-
and
I
I
had
to
how
did
y'all
address
that
in
the
report.
B
It's
not
it's
not
between
two
and
three
feet
what
the
city
has,
but
it
went
from
1.13
feet
to
1.65
feet.
So
that
would
that's
a
new
that
new
sea
level
rise
is
taken
into
account
in
all
of
our
analysis.
B
B
We
have
a
climate
change
center
within
the
core
of
engineers
that
that
handles
a
lot
of
our
sea
level
rise
analysis
with
us,
so
we
did
raise
it
about
half
a
foot
but
but-
and
that's
where
you
see
an
increase
in
damages
as
well.
In
our
analysis.
A
Susan
go
for
it.
E
Yeah
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
what
cashion
asked
about
and
we
all
followed
with
great
interest
what
was
happening
in
new
orleans
last
week
and
while
the
16
billion
dollar
army
construction
did
a
really
good
job
of
protecting
the
inner
city,
the
outer
areas
obviously
had
a
lot
of
trouble,
but
relative
to
that.
Apparently,
the
army
corps
is
now
going
to
spend
another
2
billion
raising
that
inner
city
project,
and
I
was
wondering
whether
that's
something
we
might
face
here.
E
B
So
susan
I'll
address
your
the
one
question
about,
so
what
the
corps
is
having
to
go
back
and
do
in
new
orleans
is
raise
earthen
level.
Levees.
Sorry,
so
these
are
are
the
levees
that
we
build
in
new
orleans
that
subside
over
time
they
more
or
less
sink
right,
so
you
build
them
on
subsidence.
B
You
know
that
takes
over
a
lot,
so
the
core
has
to
go
in
and
raise
these
earthen
levees
to
get
that
level
of
protection
that
they
had
initially
when
they
were
constructed,
and
it
is
very
expensive
to
raise
these.
I
think
the
total
cost
was
around
1.7
billion
dollars
to
raise
these
earth
and
levees
around
new
orleans.
B
B
We
are
proposing
t
walls.
B
Well
and
again,
we
we
are
limited.
We
we
have
the
the
12
foot
navd
88
wall
now
because
of
several
constraints
on
the
peninsula.
One
is
the
highway
17
bridge
right.
So
if
we
could
only
go
under
the
bridge
at
a
certain
elevation
tying
into
I-26,
if
we
were
to
go
higher
than
12,
we
would
have
to
go
across
interstate
26.
B
So
we
were
limited
by
several
constraints
that
we
have
on
the
peninsula
now
and
the
whole
aesthetics.
You
know
the
aesthetic
mitigation
part
too.
You
know
you
could
build
a
dome
over
the
peninsula
and
and
and
that
would
give
you
the
highest
vcr,
I'm
sure,
but
that's
not
something
that
we
want
to
do.
E
A
Thank
you
herbert.
D
B
Yeah,
no
thanks
for
the
question
herbert
you
know.
As
you
know,
we
we
met
with
the
rosemont
community
at
the
end
of
july,
and
the
plan
really
is
on.
Rosemont
is
for
dry
flood
proofing
and
or
home
raising
and
what
we
did
with
the
cost
estimate.
Is
we
relooked
the
numbers
to
ensure
we
had
enough
funding
available
in
the
future
to
either
do
the
drive,
flood
proofing
and
cost
or
home
raising?
So
that's,
essentially
what
we
did
is
we
took
a
deeper
dive
into
our
cost
estimate.
B
As
you
know,
the
non-structural,
as
I
talked
about
it
at
the
end
of
july,
it's
all
voluntary
too,
but
our
assumption
is
now
that
everybody's
going
to
want
it
in
the
future.
So
that's
why
we
wanted
to
adjust
our
cost
estimate
a
little
bit
higher
to
ensure
that
we
have
enough
cost
for
that
plan.
B
There
is
some
additional
in
the
same.
The
same
aspect
is
for
the
bridgeview
community
too.
You
can't
do
any
raising
in
bridgeview,
because
they're
they're
condo
on
concrete
slabs,
but
they
are
at
a
higher
elevation
than
the
majority
of
the
peninsula,
so
we
can
go
in
there
and
do
some
dry
floodproofing
proofing.
B
My
understanding
is
that
those
that
community
is
getting
redeveloped
so
from
the
interior
aspect,
so
we
are
going
to
work
with
the
developer
bridgeview
to
ensure
that
what
we're
doing
doesn't
conflict
with
what
that
developer
is
going
to
do
for
bridgeview
as
well,
but
but
herbert
the
plan
remains
the
same.
You
know
we're
still
pushing
forward
with
the
the
home
raising
and
drive
drive
flood
proofing
for
rosemont.
D
D
B
I'm
not,
I
don't
hurry,
I'm
sorry.
I
don't
understand
the
question
that
okay.
D
And
I
saw
some
modeling
from
sherwood
and
was
presented,
and
they
were
talking
about
non-structural
designs,
that
some
mitigation
was
done
at
the
shoreline
like
at
the
marshland
to
the
shore
has
that
had
been
considered
for
rosemount
or
any
other
areas.
B
I'll
have
to
go
back,
and
I
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
sherwood
report
in
deep
knowledge.
So
I'll
have
to
go
back
and
and
try
to
understand
that
that
proposal,
but
without
any
coastal
modeling
associated
with
it
or
any
costs
or
benefits
it'll,
be
hard
to
to
make
a
determination
on
that
to
whether
that
a
proposal
would
be
offer
a
level
of
risk
reduction
based
on
a
concept
without
modeling
or
analysis.
C
Other
than
what
we're
recommending
at
this
stage,
which
is
you
know
this
wall
or
elevating
home
so
that
the
water
comes
in
but
the
homes
don't
get
damaged
so
we'll
take
another
look
at
that
sherwood
report
and
see
what
they've
come
up
with
but,
as
wes
said,
a
lot
of
the
alternative
solutions.
We've
seen
right
now,
don't
have
the
engineering
that
we
need
yet.
So
we
you
know
we'll
see
if
we
can
find
those
solutions.
You
know,
but
as
of
right
now
we're
unaware.
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
going
forward,
we're
kind
of
getting
tight
on
time
will
be
laura
jordy
and
then
susan,
so
laura
go
ahead.
It's
off
and
I
we
have
a
hard
stop
at
10
everybody.
I
know
that
has
been
gracious
with
their
time.
They
have
a
few
more
of
these
to
do
today.
E
Thanks
for
the
chance
to
ask
another
question,
I
want
to
build
on
herbert's
questions
and
ask
about
you.
Wes,
you
mentioned
doing
community
engagement
with
rose,
mountain
and
bridgeview
communities.
Is
that
going
to
be
during
the
45
day
period?
And
what
are
your
plans
for
that
kind
of
engagement.
B
I'm
going
to
try
to
lean
on
the
city
to
help
us
set
that
up
and
get
everybody
out
there
and
talk
to
them
about
again
the
non-structural
process,
the
measures
that
we
have
in
place,
the
overall
impacts
of
the
communities
and
then
and
then
I
know
I
know
it-
was
requested
from
our
last
engagement
out
there
that
they
wanted
a
flyer
or
pamphlet.
B
E
Thanks,
I
think
you
have
some
people
on
this
call
today
who
would
be
willing
and
ready
to
help
you
with
that
engagement.
If
you
need
it.
B
E
Thanks
thanks
hagan.
Thank
you.
Wes
great
presentation
this
morning
just
wanted
to
ask
if
you
could
elaborate
a
little
further
on
the
bcr
change
you.
You
noted
about
250
million
in
savings
between
the
environmental
and
construction
costs,
but
there's
still
a
significant
amount
that
was
saved
there.
What
what
is
the
rest
of
that
savings
attributed
to.
B
Thanks
jody,
so
the
the
breakwater
was
300
million
dollars,
so
yeah
the
breakwater
at
300
million
and
then
the
rest
decreased
significantly
and
again,
as
we
went
through
our
economic
analysis,
we
increased
the
price
levels.
You
know,
prices
have
been
on
risen
on
the
peninsula,
so
we
went
from
2019
to
2021.
B
C
A
Susan,
I
believe
you'll.
Unless
anybody
else
has
any
questions,
I
believe
you
will
be
finishing
us
up
so
go
ahead
and
go
for
it.
E
After
the
last
public
commentary
period,
there
was
some
question
about
how
the
corps
incorporated
the
comments,
and
none
of
us
really
knew
how
that
happened,
and
my
question
is
after
45
days
of
comments.
How
will
we
know
what
the
impact
of
those
comments
are
on
further
planning?
It
kind
of
leaves
us
high
and
dry.
B
C
Sure
so,
for
the
first
set
of
comments,
the
ones
that
we
got
last
or
april
of
2020-
and
you
may
not
have
seen
a
comment
and
response
sort
of
matrix
or
anything.
But
the
response
to
the
comments
is
we
changed
to
this
eis
and
did
a
more
in-depth
analysis
of
the
particular
resources
that
the
comments
pointed
us
to.
So
we
had
an
abundance
of
comments
about
the
aesthetic
impacts
and
the
cultural
impacts,
and-
and
so
we
said
well,
we
gotta
do
more
work
for
those.
So
that's
the
result.
C
That's
a
direct
result
of
the
comments
that
we
received
so
rather
than
just
writing
answers.
We
expanded
our
our
study
and
and
the
the
depth
of
our
analysis
under
the
eis
that
we're
doing
now
there
we
are
required
to
respond
to
comments
right,
and
so
you
will
actually
see
a
comment
and
response
matrix.
There
will
be
not
necessarily
individually,
like
wes
said
we
got
over
700
comments
last
time,
we're
not
gonna
have
a
700
line
spreadsheet.
With
the
same
answer
to
the
same
question.
C
Sometimes
those
questions
lead
us
to
an
analysis
that
gets
incorporated
into
the
report
itself,
so
we
might
explain
something
further
if
it
becomes
clear
that
people
reading
our
report
don't
understand
the
message
that
we're
conveying
or
the
work
that
we've
done.
So
we
might
expand
an
explanation
in
response
to
comments
we
received
and
in
our
comment
response
matrix,
it'll
say:
hey.
We
expanded
this
section
to
to
bring
more
clarity
to
this
question.
C
That
said,
we
don't
have
a
back
and
forth
like
you,
don't
get
to
back
check
our
response
to
your
comments
right.
It
will
end
up
in
our
final
report
and
you'll
see
that
we
responded
to
them,
but
unfortunately
the
process
doesn't
allow
for
that
back
and
forth
and
follow
up
and
follow
on.
I
think,
with
a
with
a
project
of
this
nature,
we
would
never
end
that
question
and
answer
session
right.
We
kind
of
there's
always
another
question
and
there's
always
another
explanation
or
more.
We
can
say
or
do.
C
I
agreed,
but
you
know
I
kind
of
ask:
does
every
question
that
gets
asked
of
us
or
every
comment
that
is
brought
to
us,
require
that
we
change
the
plan
right
I
mean
that's,
that's
not
realistic
either,
and
so
the
things
that
can
affect
what
we
do
will
affect
what
we
do.
You
know
when,
when
points
are
brought
to
us
that
that
we
can
improve
our
plan
and
and
improve
our
report
as
a
result
of
comments
or
questions
from
the
public,
we
will
do
that.
C
B
And,
and
to
that
note
too
nancy,
you
know
this
isn't
the
last
time
the
public's
going
to
have
an
opportunity
to
engage
once
we
start
the
renderings
and
the
design
process
we'll
be
back
at
the
table,
we'll
be
walking
around
the
community,
showing
pictures
I'm
talking
to
folks
about
potential
impacts
and
and
all
that
good
stuff.
So
you
know
not
not
just
because
we're
going
to
end
the
feasibility
doesn't
mean
we're
going
to
cut
everybody
off
this
public
engagement,
community
engagement
and
going
for
the
next
15
years.
B
C
And
some
of
I
think,
that's
a
good
point,
because
I
think
some
of
the
comments
we
will
receive
just
based
on
the
ones
we
have
received
in
the
past
are
things
that
we
can't
address
in
feasibility.
We
address
them
in
design,
and
so,
as
we
get
to
the
design
phase,
then
then
those
responses
kind
of
come
to
play
and
that's
where
you'll
see
that
the
impact
of
those
ideas,
suggestions,
comments
come
come
into
play.
C
G
C
C
I
appreciate
the
the
amount
of
question
marks
you
know
and
and
the
hesitation
to
want
to
fund
something
when
you
don't
know
what
it
is,
but
the
idea
is
that
as
wes
was
saying,
the
the
public
as
well
as
you
know,
people
that
represent
the
public
in
the
city
government,
multiple
opportunities
in
the
future
and
we'll
continue
to
be
our
partners
through
the
whole
thing.
So
we
won't
be
doing
any
of
this
in
a
vacuum.
C
A
Thank
you,
nancy.
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
call
on
bob
to
to
wrap
us
up
just
one
more
question:
if,
if
nancy,
meredith
west,
if
y'all
are
still
good
on
time
for
for
one
more
question,.
F
Hey
good
thanks
thanks
team,
the
financial
certification.
Can
you
give
us
a
little
more
color
on
what
that
entails,
and
you
know
what
what
degree
of
commitment
is
required
by
that
document?.
B
F
And
is
the
level
of
detail
that
supports
that
commitment
assessed
by
the
army
corps
of
engineers.
B
I
don't
know
if
the
level
detail
is
is
assessed.
I'm
not
sure
I
I
quite
I
don't
quite
understand
that
question,
but
but
it
is
a
standard
I'll
just
say
it's
a
standard
document
in
all
of
our
course
studies,
whether
big
or
small,
that
non-federal
sponsor
has
to
commit
to
funding
the
project
in
the
future,
as
as
a
cost-share
partner
for
the
study
and
that's
essentially
what
what
it
is
yeah.
C
F
A
Maybe
it
would
be
helpful,
is
there
like
a?
Maybe
you
could
see
a
draft?
You
have
a
version
of
that.
That
document
we
may
have
it
or
y'all.
May
you
know
just
something?
That's
it's
a
form
version,
maybe
useful
to
help
answer
some
of
bob's.
A
You
know
bob
and
then
I'm
gonna
need
a
drop
off,
but
I
know
laura
has
an
additional
question
I'll:
go
ahead
and
drop
off,
but
watch
the
watch,
the
video
and
take
a
look
at
that
it
doesn't
come,
but
I
greatly
appreciate
y'all's
time
huge
update.
A
So
I
know
you'll
have
a
number
of
different
constituents
to
address
this
list.
B
G
E
Great
one,
thank
you,
and
I
appreciate
you
indulging
all
of
our
questions
and
I
know
I've
asked
more
than
one,
but
could
you
talk
about
whether
narrowing
lockwood
to
two
lanes
to
provide
and
to
make
room
for
an
earthen
berm
would
meet
army
corps
purpose
and
need
for
that
area?.
B
So
just
a
couple
things
on
that,
you
know
we
just
talked.
We
talked
about
the
earth
and
berm
that
new
orleans
is
going
to
go
in
there
and
spend
1.7
billion
dollars
to
raise
it.
That's
a
very,
very
expensive.
I
will
call
it
maintenance
on
a
constructed
project.
B
B
So
we
need
to
go
in
and
do
some
transportation
studies
laura
to
see
if
we
can
go
from
four
lanes
to
two
lanes
or
if
areas
can
go
to
one-way
streets
right
we
we
don't
know
that
until
we
actually
get
into
those
details.
But
that
is
a
good
question
it
you
know
it's
something
that
when
we
start
to
talk
the
design
and
the
transportation
studies
and
all
that
good
stuff,
we
can
look
at
different
different
features
more
or
less.
But
that's
a
good
question.
Thank
you.
B
G
Okay,
it
looks
like
we
are
all
set.
I
know
wes,
you
sent
me
the
presentation
which
I
will
send
to
the
committee
after
this
call
and
also
put
the
link
in
there
on
the
army's
website
and,
if
you
all
have
any
other
questions,
obviously
reach
out
to
the
chairman
to
myself
I
would
say
mark,
but
today
is
his
last
day.