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City of Charleston Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee 6/24/2020
A
B
B
As
a
phase
1
build-out,
he
mentions
a
north-south
route
of
King
Street
north
Mount
Pleasant
more
since
allanstreet,
also
an
east
route,
east-west
route,
Carolina
fishburne
Lockwood
to
ask
you
ever
Brit,
biped
bridge
and
also
Lockwood
and
B
streets
and
iterated
that
the
construction
of
these,
as
an
initial
start,
will
begin
to
build
out
the
network
from
there
so
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
put
that
comment
on
the
record.
Oh.
A
B
B
I
would
argue
outside
of
the
5:26.
Conversation
will
sit
there
to
decide
that
this
project
and
the
bike
and
pedestrian
bridge
are
the
most
pivotal
projects
coming
not
just
to
our
region
but
to
the
state
and
our
stakes
in
the
sand
about
how
we
think
about
transportation
so
definitely
tune
in.
If
you
haven't
heard
about
this
before,
and
definitely
want
to
leave
some
time
for
a
few
questions.
Alright.
C
Yes,
welcome
and
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
allow
our
experts
in
the
bike
ped
arena
to
walk
us
through
a
presentation,
but
I
wanted
to
just
kick
us
off
to
say
I'm,
thanks
for
inviting
us
to
join
this
committee.
It's
really
perfect
timing,
as
we
start
to
move
forward
with
our
detailed
analysis
of
the
recommended
alternative
bike.
C
Ped
facilities
will
be
critical
in
terms
of
what
they
look
like
and
how
we
connect
to
the
transit
stations,
so
I
have
with
me
from
H
CRS,
Shannon
meter,
overhead
Luna
and
David
Montgomery
and
they're,
going
to
kind
of
give
an
update
on
where
we
are
with
the
overall
project,
and
then
members
from
the
Alpha
Team
can
introduce
themselves,
which
I
think
many
of
you
are
probably
already
familiar,
we're
talking
about
what
we're
planning
and
what
we're
thinking
for
the
bike.
Bicycle
and
pedestrian
facilities
along
this
corridor
really
to
hopefully
get
and
some
input.
C
C
C
A
D
E
A
transportation
issue
with
the
city
of
Charleston
I
am
a
member
of
the
bicyclist
and
pedestrian
safety
community
in
America,
the
Transportation
Committee
for
the
City
Council,
and
we
are
having
a
meeting
which
is
live,
streamed
right
now
and
we're
just
going
to
share
some
of
the
meeting.
It
is
available
on
YouTube
and
I.
Just
encourage
you
to
watch
along
and
there'll
be
certain
times
when
I
pause
and
certain
times
when
we,
when
I,
come
back
to
directly
me
and
there's
some
times
when
I
will
share
the
meeting
directly
with
everyone.
E
D
Great,
so
a
couple
of
things
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
covered
today
with
y'all
and
certainly
answer
any
other
questions
that
you
may
have
along
the
way.
We
wanted
to
give
a
quick
review
of
some
of
the
goals
and
objectives
for
connecting
bike
and
ped
on
the
LC
RT
project.
We
wanted
to
go
over
and
just
talk
briefly
about
some
of
the
opportunities
and
constraints
that
we're
seeing
in
the
corridor
and
then
also
review
with
you.
Our
draft
proposed
plan
for
bike.
D
So
quick
reminder:
we
are
in
the
project
development
phase
of
the
project
and
for
an
FTA
transit
project.
What
that
means
is
that
they
have
a
process
in
place
when
you
are
competing
for
federal
money,
and
so
we
are
competing
and
within
a
project
development
phase
under
the
capital,
investment
grant
program
of
FTA-
and
that's
really
highlighted
here
on
this
slide.
D
We
are
at
the
very
beginning
stage
of
that
overall
process
about
six
months
into
a
24
month
schedule
and
have
three
major
milestones
that
we're
looking
at
completing
in
project
development,
and
that
includes
completing
NEPA
documentation,
which
is
the
environmental
document
for
the
project
that
FTA
will
review.
We
are
completing
a
30%
level
of
design
on
a
preferred
alternative,
and
then
we
are
also
requesting
or
completing
an
application
to
request
entry
into
engineering,
which
is
the
next
big
phase
of
the
investment
grant
program.
D
D
D
I
have
Jorge
Luna
on
with
us
today,
he's
our
Planning
lead
and
he's
gonna
set
up
where
we
are
with
our
recommendation
on
the
alignment
for
El
CRT
and
then
talk
through
some
of
the
specifics
relative
to
bike
and
ped
goals,
so
Jorge
I'm
gonna.
Let
you
take
it
over
from
here
and
I'll:
keep
driving
the
presentation.
If
that's
okay,
great.
F
Thank
you
thanks,
Shannon
good
afternoon.
Everyone
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
just
wanted
to
go
over
the
recommended
alignment
based
on
the
purpose
and
need
of
the
project
and
the
goals
and
objectives
that
were
develop.
We
evaluated
several
alignments
and
the
recommended
alignment
that
we've
shared
and
we've
been
sharing
and
gathering
input
from
the
community
is
alignment
one
originating
in
Somerville
traveling
down
rivers,
Avenue
continuing
through
the
King
Street
extension
down,
leading
leading
street
to
Calhoun
Street
heading
west
into
the
medical
district
there
in
the
peninsula.
F
This
is
the
strongest
overall
corridor
in
terms
of
overall
ridership
minimizing
the
number
of
railroad
crossings.
The
Costco
Rider
overall
was
quite
effective
for
this
alignment
itself.
Next
to
a
number
of
employment
areas,
and
also
the
operating
expense
was
quite
you
know
reasonable.
In
terms
of
the
comparison
of
all
the
other
routes,
you
get
to
see
the
insert
there
sort
of
the
alignment
in
downtown
Charleston
as
part
of
the
overall
map
next
slide,
please.
F
So
that's
the
alignment
and
related
to
the
goals
overall
for
goals
for
biking
paid
that
bike
pedestrian
connectivity
as
part
of
her.
Do
you
want
to
provide
safe,
accommodations
for
bicyclists
and
pedestrians
along
the
Lowcountry
at
the
transit
corridor
overall,
and
in
this
effort?
Right
now,
we've
been
we're
proposing
to
connect
with
by
competitive
movement
from
the
peninsula.
A
two
rivers
Avenue
University
Boulevard
north
of
the
north
of
the
study
area.
F
The
intent
officers
for
the
bike
and
ped
could
to
be
a
catalyst
for
future
bicycle
pedestrian
improvements
along
the
corridor
itself
be
able,
if
you
will,
to
branch
out
for
future
improvements
and
be
able
to
connect
to
the
bike
and
ped
improvements
proposed
for
the
low
country
at
the
transit
effort.
The
lastly
effectively
connect
bicycle
pedestrian
network
to
station
areas
overall.
F
So
what
does
this
mean
in
terms
of
the
alignment?
So,
as
you
saw,
there
is
one
single
alignment
that
we've
identified,
and
these
are,
if
you
will
be
the
cross-sections
of
how
the
road
would
be,
would
be
modified
to
serve
and
be
able
to
connect
with
the
Lowcountry
at
the
transit
effort
going
from
north
to
south
from
some
of
those
into
the
peninsula.
The
along
the
North
Area
one
from
Somerville,
it
would
be
the
BFD
would
be
troubling.
This
trap
makes
traffic
as
we
start
getting
into
the
try
to
detect
tread
and
health
area.
F
We
would
have
peak
Direction,
reversible
lanes,
traveling
in
the
median
and
as
made
into
the
center
area,
to
North
Charleston
to
about
the
neck
area.
We
would
have
center
running
BRT
and,
as
you
see
both
northbound
and
southbound
direction
and
at
the
BRT
serving
that
facility
there
and
pertinent
to
our
conversation
here
as
we're
entering
to
the
neck
area.
We
would
be
traveling
at
this
head
of
the
King
Street
extension
connecting
into
the
peninsula
via
mixed
traffic
in
the
peninsula
area
itself.
F
On
meeting
in
Calhoun
to
the
medical
district,
it
would
be
peak
hour,
reversible,
Lane
traveling
overall
in
that
area,
next
likely
and
here
I'm
going
to
hand
over
to
Kathleen.
She
is
without
the
planning
and
will
be
focusing
if
you
will
more
pertinent
to
this
body,
the
improvement
in
what
is
planned
for
the
for
the
neck
area
in
the
peninsula
area.
Okay,
yes,.
G
G
You
know
we
understand
that
BCD
cog,
in
conjunction
with
its
implementation
partners,
really
wants
to
implement
a
continuous,
comfortable
bike
way
in
addition
to
comfortable
walkways
along
the
length
of
the
cell
CRT
route,
and
so
this
proposed
route
shows
a
shared
use
path,
alignment
that
we're
considering
is
sort
of
the
parallel
route
for
the
transit
alignment.
So
I'm
gonna
start
with
the
diagram
on
the
right
side
of
the
slide
here.
Kind
of
the
north
side
of
that
diagram
is
around
cosgrove
have
and
through
that
area.
G
The
shared
use
path
would
be
on
the
northbound
side
of
the
street,
so
that's
kind
of
the
north
east
side
of
the
street
there
and
it
would
continue
down.
Rivers
have
and
King
Street
extension
there
and
then,
if
you
transition
to
the
diagram
on
the
left
side,
the
side
path
would
transition
from
the
northbound
side
of
the
street
over
to
the
southbound
side
at
Disher
Street,
and
it
would
continue
down.
G
We're
also
noting
sprawl
Ave
on
this
map,
which
we
understand
is
you
know,
has
existing
bike
lanes
and
has
had
some
recent
improvements
done
to
it,
and
especially
as
you
go
further
to
the
north
is
an
important
connection
for
neighborhoods.
So
that's
gonna
be
something
we
keep
in
mind
as
we
think
about
our
station
area.
Connectivity
next
slide,
there's
a
little
bit
more
going
on
in
this
one.
So
I'm
gonna
go
through
it.
G
We
this
shows
more
of
the
peninsula
area
of
where
that
alignment
is
going
to
be
so
the
in
the
very
top
of
this
diagram.
You
see
the
blue
line,
that's
the
continuation
of
that
side,
path
on
King,
Street
extension,
and
we
see
this
opportunity
with
the
low
line
coming
in
as
well
as
sort
of
an
opportunity
to
take
advantage
of
that
really
high
comfort
bike
way.
G
The
bike
way
concept
will
continue
down.
Meeting
Street
and
you
know
this
area
is
significantly
more
constrained
than
other
parts
of
the
corridor.
We're
looking
at
Charleston
is
a
unique
area,
especially
in
the
peninsula.
There's
tight
right
away
and
lots
of
pedestrian
activity
going
on
and
historical
resources
that
you
know
are
non-negotiables
in
terms
of
moving
them.
G
So,
while
the
LC
RT
route
is
going
to
continue
down
Meeting
Street
in
down
Calhoun
Street,
there
really
isn't
a
great
way
to
accommodate
a
comfortable
bike
way
on
those
streets
without
significant
investment
and
traffic
lane
removal,
essentially
Road
diets
and
changing
the
way
traffic
operates
there
we
understand
Calhoun
Street
is
one
of
the
busier
streets
in
terms
of
getting
people
in
cars
into
and
out
of
the
peninsula.
So
we
are
considering
some
options
for
how
to
accommodate
bicyclists
on
Calhoun
Street.
G
We
we
understand
that,
regardless
of
what
infrastructure
is
built
elsewhere,
Calhoun
Street
is
still
likely
to
have
some
bicyclists
using
it.
So
we're
can
we're
considering
some
options
for
how
to
either
make
great
shared
lanes
on
Calhoun
Street,
sharing
with
the
transit
vehicles
and
general
traffic
and
then
also
some
other
options
that
potentially
change
traffic
a
little
bit.
We
know
that
in
the
people
peddle
plan
there
was
a
cycle
track
designated
for
that
route,
so
we're
considering
the
feasibility
of
how
that
could
potentially
be
accommodated
and
what
impacts
to
traffic.
That
would
look
like.
G
In
addition
to
that,
you
know
we're
also
looking
at
a
parallel
route
option.
I
think
B,
Street
and
Radcliffe
are
kind
of
the
logical
option.
B
Street
already
has
lots
of
walking
and
biking
activity
on
it
to
the
west
of
where
this
diagram
is
showing.
It
will
continue
on
to
that
bicycle
and
pedestrian
bridge
project
over
the
Ashley
River,
and
in
addition,
you
know
the
city
has
already
kind
of
gone
ahead
and
started
looking
at
some
concept,
design
of
what
that
would
look
like
that
old
has
been
helping
on.
G
So
this
is
the
short-term
cross
section
for
really
the
typical
of
most
of
the
corridor.
You
know
this
is
not
going
to
be
what
it
looks
like
a
long
meeting,
Streeter
Calhoun
likely.
This
is
really
more
north
of
where
it
connects
from
the
low
line,
but
we
are
aiming
for
a
10-foot
shared
use
path
with
a
5
foot,
minimum
planting
buffer
is
just
you
know,
consistent
with
what
national
guidance
says.
G
It
should
be
the
case
for
mixed
bicycle
and
pedestrian
travel
and
in
places
where
the
speed
limits
allow
and
the
clear
zone
regulations
allowed
that
buffer
could
have
trees
in
it.
It
might
be
wider
in
some
places
where
there
is
additional
right-of-way
and
that
can
be
accommodated.
I
think
with
both
be
shared
use,
paths
with
and
the
planting
buffer
width.
We
want
to
get
maximum
width
possible,
but
10,
foot
and
5
foot
is
kind
of
the
typical
that
will
be
part
of
the
design
throughout
the
corridor
next
slide.
G
And
then
this
shows
kind
of
one
of
what
we
see
is
many
many
options
in
terms
of
how
that
short-term
cross
section
could
be
evolved
over
time.
You
know
it
could
be
widened
to
twelve
to
fourteen
feet
or,
as
is
shown
here,
the
modes
of
walking
and
biking
could
actually
be
separated
from
one
another.
So
in
this
configuration,
the
the
initial
shared
use
paths
way
is
instead
designated
as
a
bi-directional
bike
lane
and
there's
an
additional
sidewalk
and
buffer
between
those.
G
This
might
be
something
that's
appropriate
where
you
know,
there's
long
stretches
of
redevelopment
and
there's
a
lot
of
activity,
and
it
just
doesn't
make
sense
to
have
bicyclists
and
pedestrians
doing
the
same
thing.
But
overall,
we
think
there's
lots
of
different
ways
that
that
cross
section
could
be
evolved
in
the
future
and
perhaps,
most
importantly,
is
getting
it
onto
both
sides
of
the
street,
where
we're
only
able
to
get
it
on
one
side
of
the
street
today.
G
So
just
all
to
say
that
you
know
we
are
committed
to
getting
this
continuous
shared
use
paths
throughout
where
the
transit
improvements
are
going
to
be
made,
but
that
does
not
preclude
future
improvements
from
happening
along
the
corridor
as
well,
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
hand
it
back
to
Jorge.
It
should
talk
us
through
some
next
steps.
Awesome.
G
A
F
Great,
thank
you
so
in
terms
of
next
pest,
as
you
see
there
we'll
be
presenting
the
overall
final
recommendations,
the
plant,
this
alignment
recommendation
to
the
BC
because
board
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
in
terms
of
testing
and
refining
the
alignment
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
we're
effective
and
competitive
for
the
Federal
Transit
Administration
capital
investment
grant
program.
Again.
F
Pedestrians
will
refine
the
overall
network
for
the
recommendations
and
include
them
in
the
design
criteria
and
the
blocking
biking,
access
to
station
support
that
we're
working
with
without
cat
and
John
they're,
also
assisting
us
in
that
effort.
This
will
include
high
priority
projects
and
variety
of
system
conditions,
stationary
bicycle
pedestrian
connectivity
with
that
I
believe
that
summarizes
the
next
steps
and
Shannon
there
sharing
anything
else
before
we
open
for
questions.
F
C
A
Okay,
well,
first
off
on
behalf
of
the
committee
and
as
a
chairman.
Thank
you
very
much
for
taking
time
out
of
your
busy
schedule
to
give
us
this
briefing.
This
is
a
project
that,
as
I
think
Sharon
will
tell
you,
is
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
as
city
council
member
as
chairman
of
carta,
as
a
member
of
the
committee
overseeing
this,
but
more
importantly,
as
someone
who
believes
that
we
need
to
really
look
at
public
transit
in
this
community,
and
this
is
the
project.
That's
going
to
really
help
us.
A
Do
that
Sharon
before
I,
open
it
up
to
questions
from
the
committee.
I
would
like
to
ask
you
just
because
I
don't
think
we've
ever
talked
about
this
in
terms
of
your
overall
budget.
Is
there
a
breakdown
as
to
what
percentage
or
portion
of
that
can
be
allocated
to
the
disease,
an
implementation
of
bike
ped
facilities,
or
is
that
something
you
all
integrate
as
you
go
along.
C
C
A
C
A
A
A
It's
three
months
of
zoom
I'm
getting
better
at
all
this,
so
we
have
a
very
active
committee
as
you'll,
probably
imagine
and
I'm
just
going
to
open
up
the
floor
to
any
questions
that
you
might
have
free
shot
at
the
team.
That's
putting
together
really
the
most
important
large-scale
public
transit
project
in
the
history
of
this
region
so
have
at
it.
Who's
got
a
question.
H
H
A
It's
part
and
parcel
of
the
complicated
portion
of
this
project
and
that's
why
the
BCD
coggan
is
and
Sharon
are
sort
of
overseeing
this
to
be
able
to
coordinate
all
the
different
member
governments
as
you
go
through
coming
through
various
counties
through
their
various
towns.
Lots
of
jurisdictions
have
a
lot
to
say
about
this,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
tried
to
emphasize
through
the
process
of
educating
people
about
Low
Country
Rapid
Transit.
Is
it's
not
just
a
transportation
project?
A
It
is
a
project
for
all
sorts
of
things,
including
the
growth
and
development
of
a
community
through
zoning
and
other
things.
So
there's
so
many
moving
parts.
That's
why
it's
nice
to
have
a
central
place
for
this
to
work
and
if
you've
never
been
involved
in
the
VCD
cog
or
been
to
a
BCD
cog
meeting.
If
you
sit
around
the
table
or
the
virtual
table,
you
see
representatives
from
all
over
the
community
and
it's
it's
a
good
place
for
the
share
of
information
and
then
to
get
feedback
into
this
into
this
project.
A
But
it's
it's
complicated
one
of
the
things
that
I
don't
think
anyone
touched
on
and
I
do
think
this
is
a
big
part
of
the
bike.
Ped
consideration
is
that
transit
oriented
development
is
a
big
part
of
any
project
like
this
and,
in
particular,
low
country,
rapid
transit
building,
live-work-play
nodes
and
areas-
something
we
really
haven't
looked
at
in
this
community
before
because
we
don't
have
that.
A
Transit
corridor
is
going
to
change
the
game
and
how
people
move
about
and
in
what
proximity
they
live
to,
where
they
work,
where
they
shop
and
where
they
play,
and
that
will
all
lend
itself
I
believe-
and
we
have
the
experts
here
to
comment
on
this
bike.
Ped
facilities
both
directly
tied
to
this
and
then
connected
to
this
project.
B
A
little
bit
more
just
a
little
bit
the
BC
cog,
a
lot
of
reference,
a
term
called
Metropolitan,
Planning
Organization,
and
so
they
stand
for
all
three
counties:
Dorchester
Charleston
and
Berkley,
as
the
main
planning
arm
to
bring
all
of
us
together,
and
so
there's
a
governing
body
of
representatives.
I.
B
So
a
little
bit
of
a
hybrid
aspect
to
ours
than
other
places.
We
all
are,
as
also
holds
our
transit
agency
Karla,
and
so
they
also
simultaneously
see
oversee
that
which
obviously
chairman
seconds
its
chair
of
which
also
has
representatives
from
different
regions.
So
it's
a
major
player.
It's
it's!
It's
really
what
I
feel
is
the
glue
for
all
of
us
and
at
local
municipality,
county
and
state
level,
for
how
we're
having
conversations
but
also
making
decisions
about
what
planning
looks
like
in
the
region.
A
I
So
for
the
portion
that's
not
on
the
peninsula
is,
is
there?
Is
it
going
to
be
solely
a
rapid
transit
lane?
In
a
sense,
I
mean?
Will
the
the
rapid
transit
use
its
own
lane,
that's
not
being
used
by
cars,
and
if
that
is
the
case,
is
that
bike
pad
adjacent
to
that
just
rapid
transit
area,
meaning,
although
there's
that
buffer
zone,
but
it's
there's
actually
probably
more
of
a
buffer
zone
if
it's
just
the
rapid
transit
and
not
cars
adjacent
to
it?
C
Yes,
it
does
and
sad
for
the
M
for
the
big
chunk
of
the
corridor
that
operates
in
its
own
dedicated
Lane
hits
that
piece
along
rivers
Avenue,
where
we
have
that
center
median
that
that
grassy
median
and
so
the
lane
would
be
below
located
in
that
center
median.
But
the
bike
facilities
would
be
on
the
sides
of
the
road
where
they
currently
are
so
they're,
not
in
that
center
median.
C
What
we
will
be
creating
is
crosswalks
signalizing
all
throughout
that
corridor,
so
that
there
is
a
way
for
people
to
get
across
to
the
stations
and
have
that
that
center
median
is
kind
of
that
safe
haven
if
they
can't
get
across
all
eight
lanes
of
traffic
that
they're
trying
to
get
into
now.
When
we
get
into
the
neck
area
and
the
peninsula
we're
starting
to
work
in
mixed
traffic
or
have
what
Jorge
described
as
his
reversible
lanes.
J
This
is
Matt
thanks
again
for
the
for
the
presentation,
sharing
a
team,
so
just
so
I
understand
the
stations
are
going
to
be
on
the
side
of
the
road
as
opposed
to
in
the
median
right.
It's
the
median.
It's
just
has
the
travel
lanes
and
then
for
the
bus,
and
then
they
would,
they
would
cross
part
of
the
street
to
get
on
the
bus.
Is
that
how
that
works
or
the
bus
turns
off?
Where.
C
We
right
where
we
have
the
center
lane.
The
stations
are
in
the
center,
where
we
have
mixed
traffic.
The
stations
are
on
the
sides,
so
in
the
most
the
peninsula
you're
looking
at
those
side
stations,
but
up
Rivers
Avenue,
there
will
be
Center
stations
kind
of
like
a
light
rail
you
might
have
seen
in
other
cities,
but
in
mixed
traffic.
It
will
be
on
the
side.
That's.
J
C
Yes,
well,
we
are
actually
going
through
that
process
now,
so
we're
looking
at
that
half
mile
station
radius
for
for
what
we
call
our
transit
oriented
development
study
says
we
didn't
mention
that
we
do
have
a
public
meeting
right
now
on
our
website.
That's
live
and
it
introduces
the
station
areas
that
we're
evaluating
and
those
stations
will
continue
to
screen
those
down,
probably
to
about
20
stations
and
we're
looking
at
that
transit
and
development
potential
as
one
of
the
screening
criteria.
C
K
Just
a
quick
because
the
the
LC
RT
team
has
been
amazing,
I
think
you
all
have
now
I've
seen
this
presentation
four
times
in
the
past
few
weeks
and
it's
and
you
guys
have
been
great
about
letting
you
ask
tons
and
tons
of
questions
and
just
so
that
the
rest
of
the
committee
is
kind
of
aware
the
the
most
robust
bike,
ped
facilities
that
Kat
talked
about.
You
know
expanding
outwards
in
the
future.
That's
gonna
have
to
come
with
that
Tod
and
and
writing
things
in
the
zoning
overlays,
and
things
like
that.
K
So
that's
that's
something
that
all
of
us
are
gonna
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
engaged
in
to
make
sure
that
this
system
continues
to
to
grow
in
a
way
where
people
are
safe
and
connected
in
the
ways
they
need
to
be
to
get
to
the
the
transit
systems.
And
one
other
side
note
is
you
know:
d-o-t
is
not
helping
as
far
as
a
road
diet
goes,
so
this
project
could
be
more
robust,
quicker
if
Road,
if
a
road
diet
were
an
option.
A
That's
an
interesting
word,
but
we're
gonna
have
to
share
that
as
we
go
into
North
Charleston
that
whole
area,
because
zoning
will
be
the
card
that
we
have
to
play
if
the
d-o-t
doesn't
quite
get
to
where
we
want
them
to
be
and
how
this
all
integrates.
Transit-Oriented
development
is
a
hundred
percent
100
percent
dependent
unsuccessful
zoning,
and
so
so
more
to
come
with
that.
So
you
all
thought
you're
on
a
bike,
ped
committee
you're
on
a
bike
paid
committee.
That's
really
going
to
look
very
hard
at
zoning.
The
other
thing
is
Sharon
I.
A
Just
thought
I
would
ask
you
to
comment
really
quickly
and
I'll
hand
it
over
to
the
rest
of
committee.
Has
some
more
questions
about
the
interplay
between
the
last
couple
miles
and
the
low
line,
because
I
know
that's
a
conversation
that
is
going
to
be
had
soon
and
I
know.
There's
some
requests
to
the
city
that
make
some
policy
decisions
on
that.
C
Yes,
so,
as
you
saw
in
the
presentation
that
the
letter
line
is
what
we're
considering
that
the
the
bicycle
and
pedestrian
connectivity
by
that
connection
from
the
low
line
to
the
meeting
street
stations
will
be
critical.
So
as
part
of
the
coordination
will
be
looking
at
how
we
can
them
help
with
those
connections
to
the
load
line
as
well
and.
A
C
Correct
we
did
evaluate
that
and
we
look
at
a
lot
of
different
criteria
and
and
based
on
a
lot
of
different
factors.
The
meeting
Street
alternative
really
made
the
most
sense
for
the
BRT
to
operate
on
not
only
4th
system
today,
but
for
future
capacity.
As
we
start
to
grow
into
a
more
regional
system,
it
had
more
capacity
for
us.
A
L
L
I
think
there
were
some
concerns
in
our
committee
when
we
reviewed
that
about
the
what
that
would
do
to
the
kind
of
otherwise
more
peaceful
around
that
that
was
going
to
be
the
alone
line
for
lack
of
a
better
term
but
I'm
interested
in
just
a
quick
question
on
the
vehicles
that
are
going
to
be
running
this
road
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
that
would
look
like
and
whether
there's
an
opportunity
to
add
capacity
to
carry
more
bicycles
on
those
for
people
who
are
commuting
to
and
from
the
low
country.
Rapid
transit
corridor.
C
Absolutely
yes,
we
are
looking
at
a
larger
60-foot,
what
we
call
an
articulated
vehicle,
so
it
has
a
capacity
to
carry
up
to
90
people
on
a
beep
bus.
One
of
the
things
that
you
can
look
at
doing
is
removing
some
of
the
seeds
and
providing
for
bike
accessibility
on
the
vehicle,
as
opposed
to
end
the
front
of
the
bus.
So
we
will
be
evaluating
as
we
start
to
look
at
the
vehicle
options.
C
We
are
looking
at
potentially
an
all-electric
battery
electric
vehicle
and
evaluating
that
as
well,
so
as
go
through
that
process,
we'll
look
at
what
that
bike
demand
is
and
what
we
can
reasonably
accommodate
on
the
vehicles
as
we
design
the
stations
we're
designing
stations
so
that
they
can
provide
what
we
call
level
boarding.
So
it's
very
easy
to
roll
onto
the
buses
with
a
wheeled
vehicle
like
a
bicycle
or
even
a
wheelchair
or
any
other
kind
of
rolled
vehicle.
So
we
will
be
going
through
that
evaluation
over
the
next
few
months.
A
There's
never
been
a
more
important
time
to
get
involved
in
your
community
and
particularly
when
it
comes
to
this
large-scale
transit
project,
which
is
going
to
be
a
reality,
and
it's
going
to
affect
this
community
in
the
positive
way
and
I
think
this
committee
has
a
lot
to
say
about
it,
so
Sharon.
Thank
you.
Everybody
else.
Thank
you
and
count.
I
did
notice
those
we're
looking
to
different
BIOS
I.
Think
you
and
I
share
one
thing
in
common.
A
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
Keith
I
think
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
our
open
streets
and
where
we
are
with
that.
We
have
not,
by
the
way
underlined
not
yet
had
a
traffic
and
Transportation
Committee
following
our
last
committee
meeting
to
present
the
recommendations
of
this
committee,
but
we
will,
before
we
have
another
bike,
ped
committee
meeting,
so
Keith
with
that
I'm
gonna
ask
you
to
briefly:
let
everybody
know
where
we
are
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
A
B
Wanted
acknowledging
the
fact
that
at
the
last
meeting
you
all
voted
for
three
specific
areas
to
look
deeper
into
one:
the
aspect
of
parklets
and
opportunities
there
to
the
opportunity
of
South,
Market
Street
and
the
closure
between
church
and
state,
which
the
city
does
own,
and
as
of
yesterday,
we
officially
owned
all
of
Market
now
because
of
a
final
portion
of
south
street
towards
East
Bay.
That
was
needed
for
the
eventual
streetscape
and
drainage
projects
that
will
be
going
on
there
and
then
the
third
piece
was
wentworth
with
the
idea
of
a
cycle
track.
B
That's
there
what
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
do
as
staff
staff.
We
had
our
subcommittee
meeting
yesterday.
Thank
you
for
those
who
could
have
attended
and
also
have
had
internal
staff
meetings.
We
wanted
to
give
you
all
the
gist
of
what
we've
found
post
you
all's
boat.
There
was
questions
asked
about
the
viewpoint
of
of
the
brick
and
mortar
businesses
around
South
Street,
the
the
possibility
of
Wentworth,
what
that
would
take
safety
precautions
and
otherwise,
whether
or
not
that
would
work
and
then
also
the
parklet
process
and
what
that
could
ideally
be.
B
If
that
was
something
that
was
implemented
from
a
staff
standpoint.
We
definitely
believe
that
South
Street
should
continue
to
be
a
recommended
option
to
come
out
of
this
committee
to
tea
and
tea,
and
we
also
agree
with
the
aspect
of
the
parklet
process
in
specific
ways
and
and
I
want
to
let
Megan
Allen
take
both
of
these
pieces
and
give
you
some
additional
information.
B
Our
hope
is
that,
with
this
additional
information,
one
that
you
all
can
solidify
what
your
recommendation
would
be
to
traffic
and
transportation,
and
then
we
would
ask
chairs
co-chair
to
codify
that
recommendation
into
something.
That's
digestible
for
the
traffic
and
transportation
committee
staff
have
put
some
of
these
documentation
together
already
and
anticipating
of
being
of
supportive
and
then
and
then
talk
through
what
that
looks
like
for
the
next
committee
meeting,
so
I'm
gonna
ask
Meg
to
per
you.
All's
request.
B
You
wanted
a
surveying
of
the
businesses
she
got
to
all
of
them
and
did
amazing
job
reaching
out
there.
So
has
some
really
great
information
to
share
around
that,
but
also
some
questions
to
make
sure
you
all
know
about
and
then
we'll.
Let
Alan
jump
into
the
aspects
of
the
design
pieces
specific
to
the
three
areas
and
the
two
that
we
feel
as
a
staff,
at
least
from
a
staff
standpoint
should
come
out
of
committee
and
let
you
all
respond
and
hopefully
come
to
a
final
conclusion
about
what
comes
to
TNT
so
make.
M
Great
Thank,
You,
Keith,
and
so,
as
Keith
said,
you
all
requested
that
we
speak
to
be
businesses
who
might
be
impacted
by
the
potential
closure
of
this
Lockland
South
Market,
the
one
between
church
and
state.
So
what
we
did
is
we
looked
at
a
map
and
kind
of
identified,
a
range
of
businesses
that
could
be
impacted.
So
we
talked
to
people
and
meeting
Street.
We
talked
to
people
on
Church,
Street,
North,
Market,
South,
Market,
State,
all
over
the
place
ended
up
being
about
78
places
that
we
identified.
M
We
were
able
to
get
a
response
for
about
56
of
them.
So
the
two
charts
here
this
first
one
shows
the
people
that
we
weren't
able
to
speak
to,
which
was
only
about
28%.
The
second
chart
just
takes
them
out
to
show
you
an
overview
of
how
people
felt.
What
we
heard
was
an
overwhelming
support,
as
you
can
see,
over
half
were
in.
Support
of
this
effort,
got
a
few
hard-nosed
to
be
completely
transparent
of
people
who
thought
that
the
rerouting
of
traffic
in
particular
would
negatively
impact
their
business.
M
This
was
people,
especially
on
Church
Street,
which
would
you
know
being
able
to
turn
on
and
off
of
South
Market
was
a
concern
for
them,
as
well
as
people
on
the
eastern
end
of
North
Market,
we're
concerned
about
people
getting
all
the
way
down
to
them
to
their
business.
Some
other
things
that
we
heard
people
were
excited
about
the
idea.
During
this.
You
know
they
really
thought
we
get
to
have
our
own
second
Sunday
kind
of
feeling.
M
There
were
also
folks
who
really.
Why
can't
we
do
this
all
the
time
it
just
closed.
The
entire
Market
area
to
just
pedestrians
and
carriages,
was
something
that
a
few
different
businesses
brought
up.
We
also
did
not
speak
to
any
of
the
tour
companies
specifically
because
we
knew
that
their
questions
were
going
to
be
about
their
route,
because
closing
that
block
of
South
Market
is
going
to
impact
their
route
back
to
stable.
M
We
did
talk
to
the
liveability
and
tourism
department
about
that
who
managed
the
carriages
and
their
routes,
but
there
are
alternative
routes
that
they
could
take.
There
are
concerns
about
those
routes.
Those
streets
are
not
used
to
that
level
of
traffic.
It
also
could
put
carriages
on
streets
that
they
tend
to
try
to
avoid
like
East
Bay,
because
they're
busier
Carson
de
mer
faster
things
like
that.
M
You
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
not
preventing
either
the
vendors
in
the
markets
or
the
brick
and
mortars
adjacent
from
getting
the
deliveries
they
need.
So
we
would
need
to
think
about
setting
time
so
that
people
can
coordinate
appropriately
and
I.
Think
that
covers
everything
keep.
Let
me
know
what
I
forgot
and
then
I'm
happy
to
take
questions.
B
No
you
covered
it
and
especially
I
just
want
to
emphasize.
We
end
this.
In
the
first
week
sensation
I
gave
to
you
all
that
the
examples
we've
seen
from
other
cities,
the
open
streets
concepts,
have
been
specific
day's
event
specific
times
and
so
I
do
think
part
of
our
recommendation.
I
think
there's
agreement
around
South,
Street
but
times
and
days
I
think
are
going
to
be
an
important
aspect
of
that
as
well.
N
Yeah
thanks
Keith
thanks
man,
the
three
areas
that
the
committee
recommended.
We
all
move
forward
on
design,
division
and
the
bicycle
and
pedestrian
advisory
design
subcommittee
only
tackled
two
of
those
one
of
the
ones
we
didn't
work
on
was
the
marquetry
closure
which,
as
you
can
see,
is
very
well
handled
by
next
team.
We
did
talk
about
Wentworth
Street.
We
just
don't
have
enough
information
to
determine
whether
or
not.
C
N
We
also
have
not
gotten
very
far
on
that
either,
because
simply
because
we
have
tremendous
number
of
could
be
competing
projects
and
we,
you
know
it's
difficult
for
us
to
determine
that
it's
worth
investing
for
a
short-term
co19
of
relief.
At
this
time
we
can
have
that
conversation
as
we
move
forward.
We
really
did
make
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
headway,
is
on
the
parklets
effort
so
and
I
can
I
can
present
our
work
on
that
right
now.
N
N
To
convert
their
their
on
street
parking
spaces
to
to
outdoor
seating
areas,
the
idea
there
is
that
really
want
to
focus
on
on
more
urban
locations.
Given
that
the
footprints
of
the
restaurants
themselves,
the
patient
use
area
is
generally
very
tight.
They
need
actual
spatial
relief
in
order
to
allow
for
safe
social
distancing
and
the
on
street
parking
is
really
the
only
place
to
get
that
space,
as
specially
sends
a
lot
of
the
businesses
that
I'm
describing
are
on
sidewalks.
That
are
also
very
tight.
N
So
while
we
did
a
really
good
job,
you
know
trying
to
relieve
them
from
the
normal
constraints
of
sidewalk
dining
and
facilitate
that
a
lot
of
folks
just
don't
have
the
space
in
the
sidewalk
to
even
meet
that.
So
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
reasons
to
be
pursuing
this
as
a
coronavirus
relief
effort.
N
So
what
are
we
talking
about
when
we
say
parklets
so
right
now,
design
division
is
working
on
part
on
parklets
at
these
two
scales
and
timeframes,
and
what
we
mean
by
that
is
that
we
are
working
on
a
constructed,
parkland
effort
which
would
involve
a
an
actual
built
structure
in
the
parking
lane.
That
will
be
a
platform
that
is
level
with
the
sidewalk
that
comes
along
with
structurally
integrated
barriers
from
the
travel
lane.
N
That
might
that's
not
actually
I,
don't
like
to
use
word
permanent,
because
it's
not
a
permanent
fixture,
but
is
a
long-term
constructed
parkland.
But
that
is
not
the
main
focus
of
this
effort
right
now
for
the
purposes
of
coronavirus
relief,
but
I
want
you
to
let
you
know
that
we
are
working
on
that
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
headway
with
Russell
designers.
Together,
we've
identified,
you
know
we
identified
areas
of
review
that
can
be
streamlined
and
we're
well
underway
and
happy
to
talk
more
about
that
at
a
later
time.
We've.
L
N
Focused
on
the
temporary
parklets
for
tonight-
and
that's
essentially,
you
know
to
be
simple,
it's
tables
and
in
some
chairs
and
some
sufficient
vertical
separation
or
barriers
in
a
parking
space,
it
doesn't
get
much
more
complicated
than
that
and
the
way
that
we
want
to
deliver.
This
is
to
use
recent
curbside
parking
as
a
template
for
how
to
administer
this
program
or
exploring
other
implementation
tools
to
make
sure
that
we're
in
keeping
with
our
legal
stipulations
and
and
other
practices,
but
that's
not
really
the
main
focus
right
now.
N
The
main
focus
is
that
we've
got
something
to
start
with
and
we
can
build
on
it.
So
what
are
our
recent
actions?
I
mentioned
an
entire
parklet
study
that
we're
doing
we
haven't
had
an
advisory
work
session,
or
we
brought
together
some
design
professionals
to
try
to
help
work
through
this,
and
the
design
subcommittee
was
last
night
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
internal
city
collaboration
on
this.
N
So
again,
what
is
the
proposed
process?
We
think
we
can
get
this
done
using
our
existing
curbside
relief
efforts
and
that
would
be
sort
of
an
administrative
level
kind
of
approval,
with
oversight
from
the
director
traffic
transportation
administered
by
a
handful
of
staff.
Folks
and
the
way
that
would
work
is
it's
not
quite
the
honor
system,
but
in
order
to
expedite
the
development
of
the
parklet,
it
would
be
a
simple
application
process
and
a
simple
field
check.
Something
like
that.
N
A
O
N
And
other
city
staff
the
discretion
to
decide
when
it's
not
working
and
when
the
when
the
plug
maybe
needs
to
be
pulled
on
on
something
that
maybe
it
doesn't.
Is
it
being
maintained
very
well
or
does
it
follow
the
guidelines
and
then
we're
also
looking
at
how
we
might
work
with
the
mayor's
Design
Review
Committee
on
materials
and
whether
that's
even
needed
for
this
process.
So
still
a
lot
more
work
to
do
on
this,
but
there's
a
lot
of
there's.
Some
progress
has
been
made.
We've
got
some
limitations
here.
N
We're
really
gonna
have
to
focus
on
city
streets
at
first
and,
as
many
of
you
know,
a
lot
of
the
streets
that
we
have
on
the
peninsula,
particularly
some
of
our
commercial
streets
are
controlled
by
s
DDOT.
At
present.
We
feel
that
it's
better
to
get
a
program
off
the
ground
and
and
demonstrate
some
success
and
then
go
to
SC
G
ot
to
see
if
this
can
be
expanded
to
state
streets.
N
So
right
now
the
focus
is
on
city
streets,
because
simply
because
we
know
that's
where
we
can
get
this
done
and
also
on
the
peninsula,
I
mentioned
the
the
aspect
of
focusing
on
more
urban
sites,
because
they're,
the
ones
that
really
need
this
spatial
relief
and
and
the
adjacent
parking
Lee
is
the
only
place
they
can
really
get
that
that
spatial
relief
to
serve
outside
you're.
Talking
about
look,
if
you
don't,
my
location
is
off
the
peninsula.
Typically,
those
come
along
with
surface
parking
lots,
and
things
like
that.
N
Now
we
might
want
to
find
some
urban
nodes
out
off
of
the
peninsula
that
we
could
focus
on
like
Avondale
or
parts
of
Daniel
Island
places
like
that,
but
we
really
this.
This
program
really
isn't
intended,
for
you
know,
folks
that
have
large
surface
parking,
lots
and
large
patron
use
areas.
We
also
decided
that
subcommittee
last
night
to
focus
on
the
streets
that
are
posted.
The
speed
limit
is
posted
25
miles
per
hour
or
slower,
there's
a
lot
of
concern
about
moving
vehicles
and
conflicts
and
potentially
accidents
associated
with
the
parklets.
N
Specifically,
if
you're
talking
about
a
temporary
parkland,
where
the
vertical
separation
might
not
be
is
strong
and
then
also
we
were
really
kind
of
limiting
the
application
in
space
too.
So
it's
really
one
space
per
applicant.
We
would
entertain
I
think
you
know
if
someone
wanted
to
take
on
two
spaces,
that
did
do
a
second
application,
but
really
it's
a
one-for-one
kind
of
thing
right
now
and
then
it's
applicable
really
only
parking
spaces.
N
So
that
means
that
bicycle
parking
and
commercial
zones
bus
stops
places
like
that
really
wouldn't
be
good
candidates
for
for
parkland,
so
that
also
limit
limits
us
to
the
spaces
available.
So,
as
you
can
see,
you
start
to
whittle
this
down.
It's
it's
a
it's
a
right!
Now,
it's
a
narrow
program.
But
again,
if
once
we
get
this
off
the
ground,
we
can
grow
it.
After
some
demonstrated
success.
You
know
requirements.
N
It
does
need
to
be
protected
on
all
three
sides.
The
image
that
I
showed
conveys
that
simply
we're
having
a
discussion
about
the
type
of
the
type
of
barriers
that
would
be
needed
again.
They
need
to
be
sufficient
to
deter
a
moving
automobile
and
keep
people
safe.
So
we're
working
out
those
details.
It
needs
to
be
sponsored
maintained,
and
so
that
means
that
you
know
a
restaurant,
for
example,
would
be
the
one
to
you
know,
control
the
the
furniture
and
make
sure
that's
locked
up
make
sure
the
space
is
tidy.
You
know
stuff
like
that.
N
There
has
to
be
a
steward
associated
with
this,
for
it
to
work
and
no
spillover
would
be
allowed
at
present
time.
So
you
really
don't
want
to
have
tables
that
are
spilling
over
into
a
sight
distance
triangle
or
an
adjacent
parking
Lane
or
the
street,
or
even
the
sidewalk,
particularly
if
you
have
narrow
sidewalks.
We
really
do
want
to
contain
all
the
activity
in
the
parkland
itself
and
then
again,
I
mentioned
the
single,
the
single
space
per
application.
N
That's
right
now,
that's
the
that's
the
presentation
and
then
the
document
is
sort
of
working
document
that
we
have
really
just
kind
of
spells.
All
of
that
out.
I
won't
repeat
it,
but
we
have
a.
We
have
a
pretty
clear
process
on
how
we
think
people
should
apply
a
lot
of
the
notes
in
here
ability
and
maintenance
that
sponsor
would
occur
as
part
of
this
with
sort
of
an
at-risk
kind
of
effort,
and
then
the
minimal
requirements
for
safety.
N
So
we
permitted
elements
that
would
be
into
parklet
some
some
things
that
would
be
prohibited
that
we
don't
think
are
safe
to
have,
and
some
of
this
actually
came
from
stormwater.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
blocking
your
drains
with
some
of
those
temporary
temporary
facilities
operations
for
guidelines
again,
keeping
it
clean,
keeping
say
the
types
of
spaces
that
are
available.
N
We
would
consider
some
passenger
loading
or
commercial
loading
or
who
are
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
how
that
works,
but
it
would
all
be
handled
at
a
staff
level
and
the
the
discretion
of
the
off
key.
The
director
track
your
transportation
again
more
words
on
on
privatization
of
public
space
and
sponsorship.
So
we've
got
something
off
the
ground
and
I'll
ask
Alaskan.
You
went
from
the
from
the
design
subcommittee
if
they
want
to
add
anything.
B
B
M
B
That
you
can
verify
that
these
are
still
recommendations
that
you
want
to
move
forward
with,
but
also
so
that
you
can
have
a
little
bit
more
specificity
as
to
what
those
recommendations
look
like
from
a
time.
Standpoint
date,
standpoint,
implementation
standpoint
and
then
before
we
leave
this
evening,
getting
a
general
idea
of
how
best
staff
can
coordinate
with
chair
or
others
on
making
sure
that
you
all's
clear.
J
B
So
the
self
market
option
is
it's
not
gonna,
be
too
much
of
a
heavy
lift,
I
mean
we
have
the
prerequisite
barricades
and
otherwise
that
can
be
put
up.
Unfortunately,
they're
very
utilitarian.
You
know
in
nature,
but
because
I
want
to
do
my
best
to
put
us
in
a
position
where
we're
not
dependent
on
CPD
having
to
participate
in
any
street
closures.
B
B
One
piece
that
we
ditched
over
with
was
because
we're
giving
us
to
individual
businesses.
You
know,
there's
gonna,
be
an
assumption
that
that's
and
that's
an
extension
of
their
business
space.
Even
though
that's
public
right-of-way,
a
lot
of
cities
have
introduced
parklets
been
a
permanent
capacity,
make
it
clear
that
their
public
space-
this
is
different.
This
is
an
emergency
situation.
Folk
needed
folk
need
to
expand.
So
this
is
a
different
type
of
situation.
J
B
There
does
need
to
be
a
memo
from
the
committee
just
iterating,
you
all's
clear
position
where
you
all
stand,
why
you
stand
on
that
and
what
benefit
these
two
options
will
be
and
I
don't
words
in
the
committee's
mouth,
but
I'm,
assuming
he
as
a
jumpstart
to
what
can
be
down
the
line
right
that
this
is
not
be
all
end
all.
But
this
is
an
opportunity
to
do
a
little
bit
of
show-and-tell
again
I,
don't
want
to
say
it
I'm
speaking
for
the
committee
or
might
have
different
views
on
that.
B
But
I
think
the
memo
will
be
important.
I
have
a
little
bit
of
trepidation
about
giving
too
much
detail
the
physical
detail
to
the
council.
Just
because
then
that's
all
public
information
and
people
can
interpret
it.
However,
they
want
even
as
we're
trying
to
work
through
the
house.
That
being
said,
the
beauty
of
the
on
street
furniture,
peace
and
the
private
lots
was
once
it
went
to
council
once
it
got
approved
by
council.
It
was
a
plug
and
play
for
us
as
staff.
So
there
is
some
due
diligence.
B
We
probably
need
to
do
on
our
side
just
to
make
sure
things
are
ready
to
go.
So
if
and
when
TMT
says
yes,
council
says
yes,
you
know
people
gonna
expect
South
Street
is
gonna,
be
closed
off
the
next
day
you
know
or
whatever
that
timeframe
is,
you
know
people
are
gonna
expect
to
be
able
to
send
in
their
application
for
parkland.
So
we
do
know
that
there's
gonna
need
to
be
some
coordination
to
make
sure
we're
ready.
B
If
and
when
Council
says
yes
to
to
rule
that
role
that
piece
out,
but
that
to
answer
your
question
directly
I
do
think
there
needs
to
be
a
statement
from
the
committee
and
also
representation
at
our
TNT
committee
meeting
iterating,
you
all's
recommendation
why
that
recommendation
is
the
case
and
what
that
will
look
like
what
we've
tried
to
do.
A
staff
has
tried
to
prepare
you
all
and
do
a
lot
of
the
background
work
to
add
in.
E
When
I'm
sorry,
I
hate
to
jump
in
I,
unfortunately
have
a
client
meeting
in
about
four
minutes,
but
I
wanted
to
thank
not
only
our
speakers
but
the
rest
of
the
committee
for
your
diligence
and
for
being
gentle
with
me
today.
Tech
was
not
my
friend,
but
before
I
go
I
just
wanted
to
again
thank
the
speakers.
E
P
K
Have
a
couple
of
questions
and
these
might
be
for
the
design
subcommittee,
but
one
did
you
all
talk
about
four,
four
parklets.
If
a
business,
that's
on
a
sorry,
my
cat
really
wants.
If
there's
a
business
on
a
state-owned
Street
that
wants
to
utilize
a
parking
space
on
a
side
street,
that's
very
close
to
them.
Can
they
do
that?
Can
they
apply
to
do
that.
B
B
That's
not
a
quick!
Do
not
a
quick
implementation
opportunity,
that's
something
that
is
going
to
take
some
negotiation
time
and
and
and
and
that
that's
that's
the
piece
that
we
struggled
with
that
staff
of
people
are
asking
for
something
right
now
and
implementation
right
now
and
not
three
months
in
our
six
months
from
now
a
year
from
now
so,
and
if
we
go
with
the
state-owned
right-of-way
process,
then
we're
talking
about
a
process
we're
not
talking
about
an
immediate
implementation
opportunity.
So
that's
where
we
talked
about
from
staff
standpoint.
B
B
And
that's
why
I
said
I
think
it's
on
a
case-to-case
basis.
I
don't
have
an
immediate
no
to
that.
But
if
somebody
is
on
is
on
King
Street
and
they
want
the
tail
end
of
Radcliffe
as
a
location
and
they're
I,
don't
wanna
I,
don't
wanna
step,
but
if
what
is
that
distance?
What
does
that
look
like?
Where
is
that
at?
What
are
the
parameters
around?
What's
allowed
and
what's
not
I,
think
that's
that's
the
piece
we'd
have
to
be
really
specific,
really
specific
about
my.
K
M
B
Have
to
be
the
city
I
would
have
to
have
somebody
out
there
for
the
duration
of
that
time.
Doing
that
also,
if,
if
and
when
the
market
does
get
its
higher
numbers
of
vendors
and
wants
to
use
the
south
area,
then
how
is
that
negotiated
to
so
I
think
those
are
the
two
pieces
that
came
up
for
us
and
again
it's
not
in
the
indicator
or
whatever
that
is
it's
just
prince.
I
prefer
not
to
have
a
dependency
on
CPD
in
order
to
get
the
street
closure
done.
Dude.
I
Sorry,
going
back
to
the
first
question
from
Katie
and
I:
don't
think
that's
reasonable,
but
I
think
one
thing
we
probably
should
have
in
the
document
is
that
the
business
that
is
sits
right
in
front
of
that
parking
space
probably
should
have
right
of
first
refusal.
I
mean
deed
hate
for
somebody
who
just
didn't
think
about
it
and
their
neighbor
came
in
and
applied
earlier
and
then
they're
getting
those
parking
space
or
around
the
corner
and
they're
getting
it.
B
It
and
if
we
follow
in
them
the
same
line
as
have
we've
done
the
curbside,
pickup
and
drop
off
locations,
the
idea
around
that
was
being
an
immediate
access
to
that
business
and
so
I
think
there
might
be
one
that
has
a
little
bit
of
distance
away
from
it's
an
actual
business
location,
but
for
the
vast
majority
of
the
almost
70
or
so
locations,
it's
it's
in
immediate
proximity
to
that
net,
business,
so
I
think
that's
a
piece!
That's
and
that's
important
there.
What.
J
One
additional
idea
that
I
meant
to
mention
yesterday:
I,
don't
know
if
it's
good
or
bad,
but
is
the
potential
for
having
sort
of
a
set
of
dates
that
people
would
apply
within
almost
doing
it
in
batches.
Then
maybe
there's
the
first
batch,
the
second
batch,
and
that
way
the
city
might
understand
the
quantity
of
businesses
that
are
applying
to
do
this
I'm
at
any
one
time,
and
maybe
you
can
manage
the
location
of
these
temporary
parklets
I,
don't
know
if
that's
a
good
idea
or
a
bad
idea,
but
it
might
be
worth
considering.
B
B
Your
area
would
look
like
just
so
they
have
a
visual
of
that
as
a
reference
piece
and
then
and
then
I
think
that
would
be
enough
for
between
the
memo.
The
diagram
and
also
the
write-up
regarding
Park
listed
that'd,
be
enough
of
a
baseline
for
the
committee
to
have
an
idea
of
what's
being
proposed
and
how
they'll
be
implemented
and
and
what
that
could
look
like
from
there.
I
do
think
that
the
memo
should
emphasize
again.
B
B
B
J
B
Then
what
we
can
do
on
our
side
is
Meg
Allen,
listless
huddle
in
the
coming
days.
My
schedule
is
crazy,
but
I'll
figure
it
out
and
just
talk
through
the
guiding
document
on
the
parklet
piece
and
anything
else,
I
really
liked
the
mapping
you
did
make
about
the
businesses
and
the
surveying.
That
was
done,
probably
being
a
part
of
the
addendum
piece
with
the
mapping
of
herself.
She
piece
just
to
say
that
the
due
diligence
was
done
just
in
case
somebody
tries
to
pull
that
out
of
the
back
pocket,
but
yeah.
H
B
L
Mute
I
mean
am
I
my
big
concern,
you
a
dressed
it,
and
that
was
my
big
point.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
moving
expeditiously
that
we
would.
We
want
to
relay
that
urgency
to
the
TNT
committee
and
the
point
about
this
being
the
beginning,
and
that
we
would
like
the
opportunity
to
bring
up
more
of
these
bring
more
of
these
opportunities
in
front
of
the
TNT
committee
if
they
would
be
open
to
that,
you
know
and
the
urgency
being
around.
L
L
K
And
and
I
would
emphasize
and
and
I'm
happy
to
help
with
this
memo
as
well,
but
I
would
also
emphasize
the
fact
that
getting
prepared
now
with
these
things,
as
we're
I
mean
what
are
we
on,
that
we're
still
on
the
top
of
the
bell
curve
with
the
first
wave
of
kovat.
So
we're
gonna
have
to
deal
with
all
of
this
again
in
a
few
months,
so
we
might
as
well
get
these
pilot
projects
under
our
belts
now
and
be
prepared
to
have
to
assist
the
city
with
emergency
situations
going
forward.
Getting
this
groundwork
laid.
J
B
J
B
Also,
I
would
need
a
products
in
a
meeting
anyway,
because
I
would
want
it
to
be
a
part
of
the
documentation
that
goes
to
the
committee
for
the
review
prior,
some
of
its
it's
similar
to
the
for
those
who
weren't
a
part
of
the
committee
similar
to
the
memo
that
was
done
for
budget.
They
got.
They
got
that
as
a
part
of
our
packet
ahead
of
time,
and
they.
B
Long
as
as
long
as
they're,
not
there
is
a
no
as
long
as
it's
not
in
the
form
of
it.
As
long
as
there
is
not
quorum
as
long
as
there's
not
quo,
if
there's
quorum,
then
we
need
to
make
sure
there's
notification
if
it's
done
in
a
subcommittee
form
there's
not
a
public
notification
in
that
regard
for
subcommittees,
but
yeah.
It's
it's
more
about
making
sure
there's
not
if
you
all
have
quorum,
then
we
we
have
to
make
sure
we
do
what
their
diligence
with
the
public.
J
K
I
was
just
gonna,
say
I'm
speaking
of
because
you
mentioned
quorum.
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can
all
get
an
e-mailed
list
of
all
of
the
currents
be
pack
members
and
what
subcommittees
they
sit
on,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
have
that
that
living
anywhere
and
it
would
be
great
to
know
like
I
like
for
instance,
day
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
are
absent.
I
don't
have
any
concept
of
that
so
I
it
would
be
cool
if
we
could
all
get
those
documents.
B
B
B
Everybody
does
have
a
sign
committees
and
I
set
with
Steve.
You
asked
me
to
be
on
Finance
or
design,
so
I
think
I
added
you
to
emails,
but
I
can
I
can
send
out
the
list.
Cade
and
I
sent
you
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
send
that
out
to
everybody
if
that
needs
to
change
or
otherwise,
I
have
no
problem
doing
that.
Had.
P
B
B
H
K
H
P
I'm
gonna
say
one
final
thing
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
gonna
go
nowhere,
but
considering
the
fact
that
this
covered
pandemic
does
not
have
an
end
in
sight
and
I
know.
Councilman
speakings
wanted
to
hold
off
voting
for
a
vice
chair
until
we
had
a
face-to-face
meeting
that
may
not
occur
in
2020,
so
I
want
to
bring
that
out.
Anyone
feel
that
perhaps
we
should
put
out
a
vote
or
have
people
nominate
themselves
for
Vice
Chair
and
the
interim
well
we're
zoom
meeting.
B
So
her
the
ordinance
they
would
be
sub
in
for
the
co-chairs
for
the
ordinance
there's
a
coach
there's
a
chair
from
Council
and
then
also
a
community
member
chair.
So
that's
counselor
mr.
Gaines
in
math,
and
then
the
vice
chair
would
be
in
place
in
case.
They
need
to
occupy
the
Chairman's
space
and
also
be
of
assistance
with
coordination
with
the
subcommittee's.
J
C
H
P
B
Will
step
a
little
bit
out
of
bounds
slide
over
this
way
and
say,
as
committee
members
you
as
community
members
as
residents
of
the
Charleston,
you
always
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
our
council.
If
you
all,
as
a
committee,
really
believe
that
the
recommendations
that
are
being
put
forward
are
things
not
only
to
just
jump
start
for
things,
they
should
be
prioritized,
making
sure
you're.
Having
those
conversations
with
the
members
that
are
going
to
be
voting
on
this,
you
should
fill
that
Liberty,
because
that's
that's!