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From YouTube: Special Planning Commission Meeting: City Plan 6/9/2021
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Special Planning Commission Meeting: City Plan 6/9/2021
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It's
erica
harrison,
ms
johnner
jacobs,
there's
andy
johnson,
the
sunday
olympics
mr
sean
flew,
who
I
don't
think
is
with
us
here
today
and
mr
harry
lesan
who's,
the
vice
chairman
and
my
name
is
charlie
carris,
the
chairman.
So
with
that
said,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
mr
morgan.
I
believe
and
he'll
turn
it
over
to
the
prophet
christopher.
Will
you
introduce
any
staff
members
that
could
be
presenting
and
then
go
ahead
into
the
presentation.
D
Absolutely
and
that's
a
good
segue
to
say
that
I
just
want
to
take
a
second
here
and
recognize
this
fantastic
staff.
I
work
with,
and
I
want
you
all
to
know.
They
wrote
this
plan
that
you
all
are
going
to
see
tonight.
Now
we
had
some
consultants
help
us
with
background,
but
these
folks
were
at
this
plan,
I'm
going
to
read
their
names.
You've
heard
them
many
times.
I
just
want
to
read
them,
because
I
want
everybody
to
understand
that
this
is
a
fantastic
document
they
put
together.
D
Philip
overcash
eric
pullman,
chloe,
stuber
and
jim
hemphill
have
put
this
document
together
and
it's
phenomenal
and
they
have
done
so
much
work
on
this
and
should
really
be
commended.
I
think
it's
the
the
biggest
planning
division
project
that
we've
ever
had
that
I've
been
in
the
city
and
they
have
pulled
it
all
together,
so
hats
off
to
them.
Chris.
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D
No
problem
but
yeah
so
really
appreciate
all
their
hard
work.
What
we're
going
to
do
tonight,
since
you
know
at
your
last
meeting,
we
went
through
the
plan
in
more
detail.
Is
we
we?
We
have
the
newest
graphic
version
loaded
that
is
out
again.
This
is
not
changing
text
or
items
other
than
things
that
are
in
boxes
that
we
will
highlight
and
explain,
and
these
are
changes
that
are
based
on
your
comments.
The
last
meeting,
but
you
know,
99.9
percent
of
the
document
has
not
changed.
D
If
you
all
have
other
changes,
you
would
like
to
see
as
you
discussed
tonight,
so
we
will
go
through
all
that,
but
my
staff
is
here
if
there
are
questions
in
particular
sections
that
they
worked
on
last
time,
I
filled
in
for
eric
who
was
on
vacation
and
I
probably
did
not
do
his
thorough
job
on
his
sections,
but
he
can
certainly
answer
questions
in
his
sections
too.
That
might
come
up
and
that's
what
what
we
will
do
tonight,
so
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
screen
share
and
get
this
thing
going.
D
D
Okay,
well,
actually,
let's
see
full
screen
mode.
Now,
it's
black
on
either
side,
correct,
great
okay
get
my
technology
going
here.
So
this
is
our
agenda
for
tonight.
So
we're
going
to
go
into
the
document
and
it's
important
to
know
again,
as
I
was
saying
everything
that's
in
a
red
box,
we'll
we
will
highlight
and
talk
about.
These
are
substantive
revisions,
since
the
may
26
special
planning
commission
meeting
so
and
if
this
thing
wants
to
start
advancing
for
me,
let's
see
there
we
go
so
this
is
our
cover
document.
This
is
our
cover
sheet.
D
Here
we
go.
I.
I
will
note
that
we
have
put
a
caveat-
and
this
relates
to
some
of
the
letters
and
comments
you
all
had
received
in
the
past
about
you
know
this
plan.
We
have
this
note
on
the
left
here
that
says
nothing
in
the
comprehensive
plan,
amends
modifies,
suspends,
terminates
or
obligates
any
right
which
has
vested
prior
to
the
adoption
of
the
city
comprehensive
plan,
the
comprehensive
plan
by
city
council,
including
without
limitations,
any
development
rights
vested
under
development
agreements
adopted
by
the
city
prior
to
adoption
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
D
Nor
does
the
conference
of
plan
create
or
extend
any
such
rights,
so
that
is
from
our
attorneys
to
just
make
it
very
clear
that
this
plan
does
not
take
away
pugs.
It
does
not
take
away
existing
zoning.
It
does
not
take
a
develo
away
development
agreements.
Anything
like
that.
So
I
know
that
that
had
been
a
little
bit
of
a
question
in
the
last
go
round,
so
we're
going
to
kind
of
start
scrolling
through
here
again,
I'm
happy
to
stop
in
anything
that
comes
up,
but
I'm
going
to
focus
on
the
changes
we've
had.
D
We,
of
course
talk
about
the
other
plans
that
are
part
of
this.
That's
very
important
to
remember
that
there
are
a
lot
of
other
plans
that
are
going
to
be
included
as
appendixes
to
this
plan,
including
when
it
is
finished
our
one
charleston
parks
and
recreation
plan.
The
key
principles
of
that
are
going
to
be
discussed
tomorrow
night.
I'm
involved
in
that
process
and
we'll
be
listening
in
on
those,
and
so
I
guess
later
this
summer,
that
plan
will
be
adopted.
D
Just
moving
forward
here
this
is
background
on
the
community
engagement,
which
we
discussed
in
detail
last
time
and
skipping
along
population.
We
discussed
a
good
bit
on
that.
No
changes
here,
of
course,
with
the
new
census
we'll
have
that
data
later
this
year
and
we
will
certainly
check
everything.
That's
in
this
document,
but
we
feel,
like
we've,
got
a
pretty
good
handle
on
what
the
numbers
are
and
things
like
that,
based
on
our
population
projections
and
also
data,
that's
already
been
released
by
the
census.
D
So
there's
all
this,
our
income
numbers.
I
know
we've
had
in
some
community
engagement.
We
had
some
questions
about
some
of
those
income
numbers,
but
these
are
from
the
american
community
survey
u.s
census
bureau.
These
are
federal
numbers
that
are
done
for
each
jurisdiction
in
the
country,
and
that
is
the
database.
That's
used
to
determine
you
know,
affordable
housing
and
things
like
that
from
these
figures,
so
on
into
our
natural
resources
section
and
again,
no
changes
in
this
area
all
right,
so
we
have
added
a
part
about
the
ugb
and
wanted
to.
D
This
is
based
on
some
comments,
we've
received
and
so
I'll
just
kind
of
go
through
this
little
box.
Here
many
sections
of
the
ugb
are
already
well
protected
by
park,
lands,
designated
conservation
areas
or
undevelopable
natural
features
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
the
full
ugb
land
conservation
efforts
should
focus
along
the
brownswood
road
corridor.
That's
on
john's
island,
south
of
kane,
slash
and
plow
ground
roads
on
john's
island
and
also
along
southern
parts
of
folly.
D
D
The
protection,
enhancement
and
preservation
of
properties
in
areas
of
cultural
and
archaeological
significance
is
critical
to
preserving
charleston's
unique
sense
of
place,
and
then
we
have
a
little
message
from
the
preservation
plan
about
how
it
recognized
the
archaeological
significance
of
charleston
and
the
educational
value
and
benefit
to
identifying
and
understanding
archaeological
resources
related
to
various
historic
time
periods,
diverse
cultures,
historically
marginalized
groups
in
various
socioeconomic
contexts.
The
city
has
studied
the
potential
for
an
archaeological
ordinance
that
were
that
would
provide
preservation
standards
to
protect
archaeological
resources.
D
Such
an
ordinance
has
been
studied,
but
would
require
additional
staff
and
resources
to
implement.
So
we
have
that
mentioned
there
and
on
through
this
document.
This
is,
I
think
this
may
be
the
first
time
that
we've
seen
this
in
the
one
of
your
meetings.
It
was
in
your
packet
that
you
got
over
the
weekend,
but
this
is
all
of
our
settlement
areas
on
one
map.
Now,
of
course,
these
boundaries
are
subject
to
change.
It's
certainly
nothing
that's
firm!
It's
just
based
on
the
research.
D
D
So
that's
cultural
resources,
then,
in
economic
development,
we
looked
at
all
these
charts
in
your
last
discussion,
all
our
wage
stats,
our
regional
cost
of
living
so
just
kind
of
zipping.
Through
here
in
our
transportation
area,
we've
got
we've
refined
some
of
these
maps
a
little
bit
to
make
them
easier
to
read.
So
I'll
show
you
some
of
these.
This
is
just
different
improvements
that
are
slated.
D
That
will
happen,
hopefully
within
the
time
period
of
this
plan
and
areas
that
have
been
studied
and
are
either
underway
or
soon
to
be
underway
for
improvements,
and
these
are
all
in
the
citywide
transportation
plan
as
well.
And
of
course,
we
have
our
pedestrian
bicycle
aspects
that
are
covered
by
the
citywide
transportation
plan,
and
these
are
all
in
the
appendix
as
well.
D
Then
we
do
highlight
this,
because
this
is
completely
new
image
that
is
coming
out
from
the
low
country,
low
line,
it's
in
their
documents
and
their
kind
of
concept
plan
that
has
been
approved
by
the
city,
but
we
wanted
to
include
it
in
here,
because
this
is
something
that's
happened
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
A
couple
of
years.
D
This
is
some
more
info
on
the
low
country,
rapid
transit,
which
has
been
evolving
and
is
now
a
refined
route,
and
what
you
see
on
the
right,
of
course,
are
quarter
mile
radiuses
from
these
key
stops
of
the
low
country,
rapid
transit
and
how
we're
going
to
be
studying
those
in
more
detail
and
making
sure
that
they
are
as
transit,
oriented
for
development
as
possible.
As
time
goes
by
and
then
our
potential
commuter
ferry
service
terminals,
we
don't
have
the
routes.
D
Yet
these
are
just
locations
that
have
acces
that
have
potentially
public
access
to
the
water
in
areas
that
potentially
could
be
navigable
navigable
by
water
taxis
of
certain
types.
So
there
definitely
are
some
ways
that
we
can
get
around.
We
think
they're.
Definitely
as
the
roads
continue
to
get
congested
will
be
places
that
you
could
get
around
faster
by
water
than
you
could
by
road.
D
In
the
transportation
recommendations,
we
had
one
little
addition
here
to
add
the
phrase:
connect
more
schools
and
job
centers
to
neighborhoods,
with
pedestrian
pathways
and
multi-use
pathways
and
expand
opportunities
for
bike
share
systems.
So
that
was
a
quick
little
edit
so
into
our
community
facilities
and
priority
investment
area
and
you've.
Seen
all
this
before
we
do
have
all
our
completed
projects
from
2015
to
2019.
D
On
a
nice
neat
little
chart,
you
can
see
what
kind
of
money
the
city
has
been
spending,
which
is
a
tremendous
amount
on
all
these
projects,
about
318
million
to
be
exact
over
the
last
five
years
on
capital
projects,
and
then
our
capital
improvement
plan
for
the
next
few
years,
which
is
coming
up
and
what
that
total
sum
total
is
of
492
million
dollars.
So
definitely
a
lot
of
things
going
on
from
a
physical
infrastructure,
construction
standpoint.
D
We
do
point
out
that
the
2020
housing
for
a
fair
charleston
report
outlines
an
affordable
housing
framework
plan
in
charleston,
complete
with
policy
and
programming
tools
to
address
the
affordable
housing
crisis
city
plan.
Housing
element
builds
on
the
research
presented
in
that
previous
report
and
provides
additional
recommendations
based
on
additional
findings
from
the
city
plan,
housing
analysis
and
community
housing
labs.
D
D
Okay,
this
is,
I
was
just
alerted.
I
should
probably
call
out
page
number,
so
this
is
on
page
90.
This
recent
change
here:
okay,
moving
along
these-
are
all
graphics,
you've
seen
so
on
page
97,
we're
going
to
have
we've
added
this
little
section
about
managing
growth
and
I'll,
read
off
what
we're
adding
it
says
during
engagement
activities,
many
people
expressed
a
love
for
the
diversity
of
their
communities
and
concerns
about
the
loss
of
that
diversity
is
housing
becomes
increasingly
unattainable.
D
For
most,
there
was
a
resounding
call
for
there
to
be
a
mixture
of
housing
that
meets
the
needs
of
all
income
levels,
life
stages
and
household
size,
and
for
more
housing
to
be
located
close
to
where
people
work.
On
the
same
token,
many
of
the
same
community
members
expressed
deep
concerns
with
additional
growth
and
the
desire
to
slow
or
stop
new
development,
especially
given
the
pressures
of
flooding,
sea
level
rise
and
traffic.
These
concerns
are
wholly
reasonable
and
warranted.
D
Shutting
the
door
on
additional
growth
would
have
detrimental
impacts
on
the
already
dire
affordability
crisis
in
multiple
ways
and
then
over
to
the
next
page,
page
97
98.
So
this
is
these
are
the
impacts
of
the
no
growth
approach,
and
I
know
several
planning
commissioners
ask
that
we
look
into
this
and
staff
has
researched
this
and
had
discussions,
and
so
these
are
what
we
think
are
the
impacts
of
a
no
growth
approach,
which
is
again
not
recommended
by
this
plan.
D
Our
local
business
and
job
growth.
We
would
have
local
job
creation,
and
economic
growth
would
be
hindered
by
a
new
growth
approach,
especially
for
businesses
already
struggling
to
find
employees
due
to
lack
of
affordable
housing
stock
from
a
quality
and
reliable
public
transport
public
transit
standpoint.
Our
public
transit
systems
rely
heavily
on
ridership.
Lack
of
density
along
transit
corridors
can
threaten
the
viability
of
existing
in
future
transit.
For
instance,
we're
trying
to
increase
densities
along
that
low
country
rabbit
transit
line
to
make
sure
it
is
successful.
D
Density
is
key
to
success
of
transit.
So
if
you
couldn't
grow
further,
then
you
would
potentially
jeopardize
the
success
of
that
new
transit
route.
We
should
also
note
that
a
no
growth
approach
would
also
prevent
substance
would
have
substantial
implications
for
current
rights
of
private
property
owners,
citywide
folks,
who
may
have
undeveloped,
land
or
marginally
developed
land
who
have
entitlements
via
current
zoning,
and
things
like
that.
So
we
wouldn't
want
to
see
their
development
rights
limited
future
planning
decisions
and
actions
must
weigh
all
of
these
factors.
D
B
E
G
Charlie,
I
think
that
I
was
the
one
that
asked
that
at
least
this
be
considered
to
be
put
in
here,
and
I
I
happen
to
agree
with
what
has
been
written,
but
you
know,
I
think
it's
important
to
make
sure
that
the
the
commission
agrees
with
this.
I
mean
this
happens
to
represent
my
opinion
and,
and
I'm
I'm
glad
I've
already
written
down
page
98
as
well,
because
I
want
to
be
able
to
refer
to
it,
but
there
ought
to
be
a
debate
on
this.
If
someone
disagrees.
E
So
by
passing
this
we're
saying
we
we
agree
with
with
that
statement,
and
I
and
I'm
so
pleased
that
that
mr
bailey
made
this
comment
last
time
at
our
last
meeting,
because
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day.
This
is
what
we
do
and-
and
I
think
again,
that
those
last
few
sentences
really
encapsulate
the
way.
I
think
about
my
service
on
this
commission
and
that's
whoever
wrote
that
did
a
really
nice
job.
E
I
think,
because
those
are
our
goals
and
that's
what
we
try
to
do,
and
you
know
if
we
believe,
as
I
do
in
the
conservation
of
our
rural
areas,
then
the
only
way
to
keep
sprawl
and
development
from
continuing
to
just
spill
out
into
those
areas.
We
have
to
develop
the
areas
of
our
region
and
our
city
where
the
infrastructure
already
exists,
and-
and
I
know
it's-
you
know,
traffic
concerns
and
and
other
concerns
that
people
have
about
development
are
real
and
they're
they're.
Not
I
don't.
E
B
A
Yes,
charlie,
thank
you.
You
know,
I
agree
with
what
harry
and
mr
bailey
have
have
mentioned.
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
very
careful
about
affordability
for
not
even
in
the
affordable
housing
group,
but
also
the
workforce,
housing
and
being
able
to
live
and
work
in
charleston.
That
is
something
that
is
not
happening
now
and
that's
a
great
way
to
stop
the
sprawl
and
the
traffic
and
the
deterioration
of
our
roads,
and
we
need
to
really
identify
and
we've
kind
of
been.
A
You
know,
zoned
in
the
dark
a
little
bit
over
the
last
several
really
since
I've
been
on
the
commission-
and
you
know
we
we've
done
things
reacting,
we've
done
things
to
the
zoning
ordinances
that
have
allowed
things
at
the
time
because
they
were
needed
during
the
recession
and
during
different
time
frames.
But
I
think
that
we
need
a
broad
understanding
and
I
think
this
does
a
really
good
job.
A
All
those
are
issues
that
are
extremely
important,
and
you
know-
and
this
document
hopefully
will
get-
you
know-
lead
us
in
the
right
direction,
but
we
can't
we
we
need
to
do
it
in
a
way.
That's
not
vague
that
people
know
what
we
need
to
do
and
it's
and
it's
really
printed
and
understanded
understandable
to
everybody
involved.
I
think
that
you
know
we've
had
a
lot
of
vague
mentions
in
this
document,
which
is
one
of
my
concerns,
but,
as
you
said
christopher,
it
doesn't
people
that
already
have
opportunities
going.
A
I
want
us
to
take
into
consideration
the
roads,
the
traffic,
the
schools
and
living
in
the
area
that
we
work
and
I
drive
in
I-26,
coming
home
in
west
ashley,
and
I
see
the
traffic
going
out
to
monk's
corner
and
to
somerville
and
and
and
understand
that
it's
a
lot
of
the
health
community,
but
it
it
the
track.
It
would
drive
me
crazy
to
actually
drive
that
every
day
and
we
need
more
people
in
the
city
of
charleston
people.
A
They
shy
away
from
doing
business
in
the
city
of
charleston
these
days
and
and
I
I
actually
had
the
opportunity
to
go
downtown
over
the
weekend
and
I
just
walked
around
just
from
an
objective
standpoint,
to
see
what
I
thought
and-
and
I
have
some
concerns.
You
know
the
the
the
shuttered
buildings
are
a
concern.
A
That
makes
me
very
sad-
and
I
hope
that
this
document
that
we're
working
on
for
our
10-year
plan
will
bring
more
people
living
in
the
city
of
charleston,
more
people
wanting
to
do
business
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
do
it
in
a
way
that
is
thoughtful
to
the
environment,
to
where
I
was
born
and
raised
and
want
to
continue
to
live
in
a
good
environment,
and
I
hope
that
that's
what
this
document
does
going
forward.
Thanks,
charlie
thank.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
also
want
to
applaud
mr
bailey
for
bringing
forward
this
idea.
If
you
go
where
harry
likes
to
say
sometimes
with
3,
000
or
30
thousand
view,
this
is
a
comprehensive
plan
for
how
we
want
our
city
to
look
in
the
future,
and
if
we
don't
address
the
good
stuff
that
we
wanna
see
more
trees
or
more
parks
with
the
hard
stuff,
then
we
won't
come
to
the
end
to
a
good
document
and
one
of
the
elements
that
we
were
required
to
add
to
our
document
was
resilience.
H
H
How
do
we
do
that
in
a
very
thoughtful
respectful
way
that
we
like
the
way
our
city
looks
in
10
or
20
years
and
that's
our
charge
tonight,
and
I
think
it
was
very
important
to
have
this
included
in
the
plan
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
my
two
cents,
because
I
want
people
to
hear
us
agree
or
not
disagree
with
this
thought
process.
So
I'm
just
echoing
my
other
commission
members
thoughts,
but
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
miss
jacobs,
any
other
commission
members
and-
and
I
think
you
know
part
of
this-
was
a
big
part.
As
mr
bailey
brought
up
last
meeting,
we
got
to
educate
the
public
and
this
is
education
component,
because
we
hear
all
hear
it
and
and
we
need
to
let
people
know
that
we
we
hear
it.
We
understand
it,
but
we
want
them
to
understand
the
facts,
and
I
think
this
being
addressed
is
very
important.
Other
commission
members,
ms
harrison
did
you
have
your
hand
up.
I
don't
want.
B
I
I
I
just
do
want
to
commend
mr
bailey
for
bringing
this
forward,
because
you
are
right,
we
do
have
to
interface
with
the
public,
and
I
think
this
is
a
such
a
good
statement
inside
our
comprehensive
plan
that
bringing
it
to
the
forefront
as
we
go
forward
with
applications
that
it's
almost
like
a
little
bit
a
mini
primer.
If,
if
this
is
something
you
know
in
terms
of
public
comments
that
we
receive,
because
it
is
a
lot
of
knee-jerk
reactions,
you
know
in
information
and
the
way
information
is
disseminated.
I
You
know:
we've
we've
watched
how
it's
you
know
you
go
from
being
in
a
neighborhood
association
to
being
on
facebook
to
being
a
tweet.
You
know
so
you
know
a
lot
of
these
projects
become
influenced
by
140
characters,
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
way
to
kind
of
bring
temperature
down
on
on
on
on
on
issues
that
deal
with
a
lot
of
our
planning
decisions,
but
also
as
a
way
of
kind
of
forward-facing
saying
we
don't
want
that,
a
no-growth
approach.
B
Thank
you
miss
harrison.
I
appreciate
it
anyone
else,
if
not
we'll
move
forward
and
again,
I
think
we
all
agree
with
mr
bailey
and
thank
him
for
bringing
this
up
last
time,
and
I
think
the
I've
read
the
article
post
and
courier,
hopefully
they're
understanding,
we're
trying
to
educate
people
and
move
a
smart
growth,
not
no
growth,
smart
growth,
but
anyway.
If
no
one
else
has
a
comment.
Mr
morgan
will
move
forward.
D
D
So
obviously
a
commercial
use
in
the
suburban
area
would
be
more
intense
than
a
commercial
use
in
a
suburban
edge
area
in
number
of
square
feet,
and
you
know
traffic
impact
things
like
that.
So
it's
important
everybody
understand
that
all
these
districts
do
allow
for
a
range
of
uses
offices.
Things
like
that,
it's
just
a
level
of
intensity
within
them
and
of
course
these
are
just
recommendations.
This
is
not
zoning.
These
will
then
influence.
D
We
have
the
maps
are
getting
a
little
bit
more
refined.
We
aren't
changing
the
recommendations
anywhere
from
what
you've
all
seen
before,
but
just
trying
to
make
them
a
little
bit
clearer
to
read
we're
working
we're
still.
We
have
all
these
percentages
we're
going
to
work
to
get
those
numbers
on
the
final
image,
but
I'll
show
you
for
citywide
what
all
those
numbers
are
in
just
a
second,
but
as
we
have
the
final
document,
it
will
have
future
percentages
in
each
area
of
the
city
like
future
percentages
of
these
categories
in
the
downtown.
D
We
have
these
figures
for
you
right
now.
We
showed
them
on
a
chart
last
time,
we're
just
going
to
put
them
in
a
graphic
form
so
again,
inner
west
ashley,
and
should
also
point
out
that
each
of
these
maps
has
some
of
the
designation
of
the
african-american
settlement
areas
and
again
this
is
just
scratching
the
surface
on
these
settlement
areas.
We
need
to
do
more
research
on
them,
but
this
is
to
alert
us
as
we
are
working
through.
D
If,
let's
say,
there's
a
rezoning
recommended
in
the
area
over
here
or
planned
unit
development
well
depending
on
its
scale
and
scope,
it
might
be
that
it's
perfectly
appropriate.
Given
the
existing
character
of
this
settlement
area
or,
let's
just
say
it's-
a
500
acre
new
plan
unit
development
immediately
adjacent
or
within
a
settlement
area.
Well
then,
that
may
necessitate
a
full
study
of
that
settlement
area
and
the
whole
character
of
that
settlement
area
before
we
can
make
a
recommendation
in
the
affirmative
for
that
type
of
planned
unit
development,
so
just
pointing
that
out.
B
D
H
D
Yeah,
okay,
so
this
is
from
this
lane.
So
what
it's
saying
is
it's
not
necessarily
reflecting
what
the
land
use
is
today
in
general,
that
does
influence
how
we
make
these
recommendations,
but
it's
just
like
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
we're
going
to
go
on
to
this
in
just
a
minute
in
reference
to
kane
hoy
and
the
king
hoy
development.
D
You
know
these
are
land
use
recommendations.
These
do
not
change
the
underlying
zoning.
They
do
not
change
pods,
they
do
not
change
development
agreements,
but
should
those
property
owners
choose
to
change
their
pods
or
their
zoning?
We
would
use
this
as
a
guide
in
making
recommendations
for
those
changes.
D
And
james
island
and
again
noting
that
we
are
showing
this
with
this
alteration
of
the
ugb
to
follow
the
boundary
lines
of
the
folly
road
overlay.
Since
the
folly
road
overlay
in
both
the
county
and
the
city,
jurisdiction
has
densities
and
zonings
that
are
not
really
compatible
with
being
outside
the
urban
growth
boundary.
So
we
are
showing
that
here
just
pointing
that
out.
That
is
a
change
to
ugb.
D
D
So
we
had
a
very
good
discussion
with
him
yesterday
and
you're
going
to
hear
from
ms
smythe.
I
believe
tonight
she's
one
of
the
speakers
about
that
discussion,
but
essentially,
I
think
they
are
now
comfortable
with
the
discussion,
because
they
are
understanding
about
how
these
land
use
recommendations
are
applied.
D
Essentially,
this
is
saying
that
we,
you
know
like
to
see
the
greatest
densities
along
clements
ferry
road,
not
only
because
this
is
in
the
area
that
our
land
and
water
analysis
showed
is
some
of
the
highest
land
in
the
area,
but
also
because
it
has
obviously
access
to
transportation,
and
it
is
an
area
that
one
day
could
become
a
bus,
rapid
transit
location.
So
this
is
the
area
that
we're
recommending
for
essentially
city
center
out
here,
which
is
a
good
bit
of
density.
D
Then
we
do
have
a
lot
of
suburban
densities
out
here
as
well,
and
then
we
feather
out
to
the
suburban
edge
for
the
northern
parts
here
and
suburban
edge
for
the
higher
elevation
areas
to
the
south.
Those
folks
are
fully
aware
of
the
elevations
that
are
associated
with
the
properties
down
here
and
are
you
know
dealing
with
that
in
reference
to
their
own
development
plans
there?
D
So
essentially,
this
these
land
use
recommendations
in
line
with
what
we've
been
saying
throughout
the
city
that
we're
we're
focusing
development
in
areas
that
are
have
greater
elevation
and
trying
to
keep
areas
of
lower
elevation
with
limited
development
by
virtue
of
this
area.
Having
so
much
good
elevation
out
here,
it
is
an
area
that
has
more
suggested
density
than
currently
exists
in
their
development
plans,
in
their
pud
and
in
their
development
agreement,
and
so
it's
it's
substantially
more.
D
This
is
some
of
the
safest
areas
in
the
city
because
of
elevation
and
lower
risk
from
storm
surge.
Lower
risk
from
tidal
influences
things
like
that,
so
I
think
that
discussion
has
has
made
the
folks
with
the
king
hawaii
development
more
comfortable
with,
what's
in
the
the
plan
and
greater
understanding
of
both
sides
of
what
they
were
looking
for
and
of
course,
we
have
also
made
it
very,
very
clear
that
this
plan
does
not
change.
Underlying
puds
does
not
change
development
agreements.
Of
course,
it's
just
recommendations
for
future
activities.
H
Just
very
quickly,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
I
I
continue
to
have
a
little
problem
with
these
colors,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
them
correctly
on
the.
If
you
take
that
carter
and
you
look
at
the
wonder
side
of
the
corridor,
it
looks
to
me
that
the
color
is
different
than
the
the
cooper
river
side
of
the
corridor.
H
D
D
H
B
D
D
These
are
showing
some
of
the
wetland
areas
not
fully
delineated,
but
the
best
information
available-
and
you
know
that's
why
that
you
know
doesn't
go
further,
but
also
it
doesn't
go
further
because
it's
not
as
walkable
an
area
to
go
to
the
transit.
So
the
whole
idea
behind
city
center
is
that
you're
creating
walkable
city
centers,
and
this
would
be
created
as
a
walkable
city
center.
E
I
also
kind
of
wanted
to
address
the
the
other
side
of
the
concerns
about
the
cane
hoy
peninsula
and
that
is
to
point
out
the
upper
right
hand
corner
of
this
map,
which
shows
a
very
natural
area
that
is
in
the
federally
owned,
francis
marion
national
forest
and-
and
I
wonder,
if
there's
a
way
to
we-
don't
have
an
urban
growth
boundary
necessarily
in
berkeley
county.
Is
that
correct?
Oh
no.
We.
D
Do
we've
adopted
one
berkeley
county
has
not
really
adopted
one,
but
this
was
adopted
in
our
last
plan,
this
line
and
and
we're
keeping
it
in
the
same
location.
It
basically
follows
the
national
forest
here
along
here
and
then
it
follows
the
edge
of
the
kind
of
city
limits
in
this
area
here,
excellent.
E
E
That
could
potentially
be
developed
by
another
jurisdiction,
of
course,
but
I
do
think
you
know
the
city
making
an
affirmative
commitment
to
the
protection
of
those
natural
areas
and
the
areas
outside
the
urban
growth
boundary
that
are
that
are
not
currently,
you
know,
protected
by
either
public
ownership
or
conservation
easement.
I
think
that
would
be
you
know
when
I
someday
go
off
this
commission,
that
will
that
would
give
me
peace
of
mind
about
the
development
and
the
future
growth
in
the
canaan
peninsula.
B
D
G
It
does
talk
about
the
urban
growth
boundary
being
a
an
essential
component
of
the
city
plan,
future
land
use
maps
and
as
a
land
use
management
strategy.
It
can't
you,
I
know
it's
probably
pretty
hard
to
decide
what
you
highlight,
what
you
don't,
but
it
might
be
buried
a
little
bit.
I
mean
I
know
in
particular
on
john's
island,
and
I
was
going
to
make
some
comments
on
that
later.
F
D
D
Boundary
essential
compound
of
the
city
plan,
future
land
use
map
and
land
use
management
strategies,
the
concept
of
defining
edge
of
the
urban
and
suburban
development,
and
it's
been
around
since
2000
and
inter-jurisdictional
coordination
is
key
and,
of
course,
charleston
county
has
utv
that
matches
ours
with
the
exception
of
on
james
island
because
they
have
no
ugb
on
james
island.
They
have
all
of
james
island
every
bit
of
it
inside
the
ugb,
but
yeah
and
then
berkeley
county
is
well
aware
that
we
have
a
ugb.
D
C
B
B
D
D
So
let
me
move
a
couple
of
things
around
here:
okay,
so
we
have
the
make
the
best
use
of
the
highest
land
around
the
city
for
residential
commercial,
mixed
use,
development,
especially
areas
around
our
current
future
public
transit
corridors,
reduced
density
on
the
lowest
ground
landing
strategies
for
middle
ground
require
additional
study.
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
zip
through
these
developer
proactive
measures
to
educate
property
owners
and
potential
developers
to
parcel
elevation,
arizona
flooding
if
underscore
responsibility
of
effective
water
management.
H
With
reference
to
that,
because
I
do
think
it
is
an
important
thing.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
during
community
engagement
about
codifying
the
ugb
and
and
protecting
the
ugb,
and
I
just
think
it's
very
important
that
we
make
sure
that
people
see
it
very
prominently
in
the
plan
by
in
simply,
a
bold
type
might
be
an
important
thing
to
do.
E
E
We
owe
a
great
debt
to
the
folks
who
put
it
in
place,
and
I
just
I
wanted
to
highlight
it
and
and
particularly,
and
and
I'm
glad
mr
bailey
mentioned
john's
island-
it's
it's
at
least
as
important
on
john's
island
as
it
is
in
in
the
canhoy
peninsula.
So
it
it's
the
most
important
elements
of
our
of
our
plan
and
our
planning
in
this
city.
E
D
D
D
D
Of
course,
the
city
got
lots
of
accolades
for
creating
in
one
of
the
first
zoning
ordinances
and
preservation,
ordinances
in
1931,
and
that
is
very
true,
but
also
behind
some
of
those,
particularly
from
a
land
use
standpoint
were
some
some
things
that
were
not
as
positive,
and
we
have
noted
this
from
this
map.
You'll
notice.
On
the
legend
for
this
general
city
plan
map,
we
have
use
districts
which
include
white
residential
districts
and
colored
residential
district,
and
we
thought
it
was
important
to
include
in
this
section.
D
D
A
couple
of
things
that
are
just
this
is
the
little
section
that
we've
added
in
despite
ruling
in
reference
to
unconstitutionality
of
racial
zoning.
Cities
continue
to
consider
race
and
planning
practices
and
decisions,
and
then
we
have
this
1931
report,
which
provided
blueprints
for
the
city's
first
zoning
regulations,
race-based
residential
districts
for
outland
in
the
plant.
D
And
I
should
point
out:
we've
had
a
lot
of
communication
with
our
health
and
wellness
committee
at
the
city
and
are
trying
to
best
include
health
and
all
policies
in
this
document.
Sometimes
they
may
not
be,
as
you
know,
specifically
called
out,
such
as
you
know,
creating
walkable,
neighborhoods
and
parks
within
easy
walking,
distance
of
all
new
housing.
But
we
think
it
is
very
important
that
these
health
policies
are
a
key
part
of
our
thought
pattern
in
our
planning.
D
J
D
And
then
we
go
to
the
appendix
that
has
all
the
plans
that
are
part
of
this
and
other
supplementary
data
that
we
used
in
the
document
and
then
our
glossary
of
key
terms
which
are
throughout
the
document.
I
think
that's
the
first
ever
that
we've
done
a
glossary
of
terms
like
that
and
there
you
have
the
document.
So
I'm
going
to
stop
the
screen
share
here
and
then
open
it
up
back
to
you
all
for
discussion.
We
can
certainly
go
back
to
any
pages
that
you
all
have
questions
about.
B
L
Thank
you.
This
is
anna
catherine
carroll
with
the
preservation
society
of
charleston
and
the
preservation.
Society
really
appreciates
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
draft
city
plan
and
we
are
highly
encouraged
by
planning
staff's
incorporation
of
several
recommendations
that
we
ask
the
city
to
pursue
in
earlier
stages
of
review,
really
appreciate
your
collaborative
and
transparent
process,
but
in
particular,
or
in
particular,
we
appreciate
the
strength,
strengthening
of
the
cultural
resources,
housing
and
economic
development
elements
and
greater
prioritization
of
preserving
our
city's,
unique
historic
environment
and
sense
of
place.
L
Second,
we
noted
that
the
latest
draft
plan
omits
an
initial
recommendation
to
create
an
office
of
economic
development,
and
this
is
something
that
we
would
urge
the
city
to
reincorporate.
It
is
clear
that
charleston
needs
an
economic
development
office
to
establish
vision
and
proactively
shape
economic
growth
that
meets
our
city's
current
needs.
B
C
F
All
right,
I'm
betsy
laforce
with
the
coastal
conservation
league.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
comment.
We
also
would
like
to
reiterate
our
appreciations
to
the
city,
planning
staff
and
consultants
for
their
great
work,
to
engage
the
public
and
meaningfully
incorporate
that
feedback
into
the
draft
city
plan.
F
Before
you,
the
city
plan
team
has
been
incredibly
receptive
to
the
comments
the
league
has
submitted
throughout
this
process
and
they've
put
in
a
lot
of
work
to
incorporate
many
of
our
recommendations
into
the
draft
as
we
enter
the
final
phases
of
engagement
and
approvals,
we'd
like
to
continue
to
highlight
opportunities,
we
see
to
strengthen
elements
of
the
plan.
At
the
last
meeting
we
mentioned
the
importance
of
removing
transportation
recommendations
related
to
the
I-526
extension
and
that
still
holds,
but
we
wanted
to
focus
tonight
on
points
related
to
cainhoy
which
reflect
the
productive
discussion.
F
Special
thanks
to
commissioner
lessain
for
his
comments
around
the
need
for
balancing
development
and
protecting
the
critical
natural
resources
on
the
northern
portion
of
canhoy
cainhoy
is
the
largest
remaining
undeveloped
area
within
the
city
of
charleston.
It's
also
contained
some
of
the
highest
ground
in
the
city.
As
we
heard
tonight.
F
This
presents
a
unique
opportunity
to
commit
to
the
recommendations
from
the
dutch
dialogues,
not
only
by
applying
the
water
first
principle
of
avoiding
development
in
low-lying
areas,
but
also
by
conserving
ecological
and
cultural
resources
and
considering
their
role
in
maintaining
the
overall
health
of
a
site
and
its
surroundings
before
planning
decisions
are
made.
The
good
news
is
that
we
know
the
population
growth.
F
That's
projected
for
cane
hoy
can
happen
responsibly
by
concentrating
the
development
along
the
clements
ferry
road
corridor
in
the
city
center
and,
as
we
heard
confirmed
at
the
last
planning
commission
meeting,
the
proposed
density
for
cane
hoy
can
be
achieved
by
concentrating
growth
along
this
corridor.
Where
infrastructure
already
exists,
this
approach
would
protect
against
flooding,
risks
on
the
southern
portion.
F
The
northern
portion
of
canehoy
is
also
the
location
of
irreplaceable
cultural
resources
dating
back
millennia,
alongside
the
incredibly
significant
jack
primus
and
ug
settlement
communities,
which
are
facing
immense
development
pressure
by
industrial
and
suburban
growth.
We
believe
growing
responsibly
means
supporting
a
mutually
beneficial
relationship
between
the
people
of
a
community
and
its
cultural
and
natural
resources.
F
As
stated
in
the
plan.
To
this
end,
alternative
designs
for
reducing
harm
on
cultural
and
natural
resources
should
be
encouraged
by
adjusting
the
future
land
use
map
designations
for
the
northern
portion
of
the
canhoy
peninsula,
from
suburban
and
suburban
edge
designations
to
entirely
rural
outside
of
the
proposed
city
center
area
to
manage
the
level
of
intensity
and
impacts
in
this
highly
sensitive
area.
F
Specific
density
recommendations
would
be
beneficial
to
define
true
future
land
uses
for
this
area.
Densities
of
one
dwelling
unit
per
three
acres
to
clusters
of
one
dwelling
unit
per
acre
could
be
considered
as
we
learned
at
the
last
special
planning
commission
meeting.
Making
these
necessary
adjustments
for
canehoe
is
challenging,
considering
the
development
plans
that
were
approved
in
2014
and,
as
was
discussed
at
the
end
of
that
meeting,
those
development
plans
are
no
longer
consistent
with
the
realities
we're
faced
with
today.
F
10
new
years
of
information
and
data
around
the
implications
of
sea
level
rise
have
rightfully
influenced
the
city
to
adopt
a
new
planning
paradigm
rooted
in
resilience.
However,
several
of
the
puds
that
were
approved
prior
to
2015
in
the
city
feature
entitlements
and
land
plans
that
do
not
reflect
this
new
approach.
To
address
this
challenge.
The
conservation
league
encourages
the
city
to
include
guidelines
in
the
city
plan
around
maintaining
the
validity
of
development
approvals.
F
This
would
give
the
city
the
right
to
review
a
concept
plan
approved
as
part
of
a
pud
when
no
building
permits
have
been
issued
in
a
period
of
five
years
and
the
right
to
choose.
Not
to
issue
further
permits
within
a
pud
until
a
revised
concept
plan
has
been
approved
that
addresses
necessary
changes
that
need
to
be
made.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration
of
these
comments.
We
look
forward
to
remaining
engaged
in
this
process,
leading
up
to
council
adoption
of
the
city
plan.
B
M
Yes,
thank
you
chairman,
and
thank
you
to
everyone
who
has
served
so
diligently
on
the
commission
during
this
expanded
year.
I
can't
say
enough
about
the
staff
work.
That's
gone
on.
I've
tried
to
follow
along
as
carefully
as
I
could,
as
as
as
one
of
the
members
of
council
who
will
be
are
receiving
your
document
when
it
arrives
to
us
and
making
what
we
hope
are
was
and
future
forward
decisions
tonight.
M
I
I'm
really
just
appealing
to
you
for
one
particular
change
from
the
draft
document
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
and
when
I
thought
about
how
I
was
going
to
approach
this,
I
was
going
to
say
I
apologize
for
making
that
such
a
small
request
in
the
shadow
of
the
monumental
recommendations
that
you've
been
working
on,
and
especially
the
unique
thinking
that
you've
been
doing
over
resilience
and
equity
and
all
those
important
topics
that
are
now
firmly
ensconced
in
this
plan.
So
my
topic
is
the
ugb
boundary
on
james
island.
M
I
don't
think
it's
any
surprise
to
mr
morgan
and
mr
hemphill
in
particular,
who
are
sort
of
my
soldiers
and
planning
for
james
island,
and
I
I
I
would
ask
that
you
not
accept
the
recommendation
to
move
the
ugb
to
the
west
side
of
folly
road.
I
know
that
there
are.
You
know,
logical
reasons
why
that
recommendation
has
been
made
to
you
for
certain.
M
If
you
look
carefully
at
the
james
ellen
future
land
use
map
the
areas
that
you're
now
you
would
be
taking
away
from
the
ugb
boundary
are
african-american
settlement
communities
that
are
east
of
folly
road
and
they
also
have
a
lot
of
family
properties,
not
many
people
farm
there
any
longer,
that's
very
true,
but
that
was
their
heritage.
That
is
the
way
the
land
topographically
is
the
most
useful.
If
you
look
more
closely
at
that
map,
you
see
a
ton
of
spider
web
tidal,
creeks
all
running
east
to
west
and
that
that
area
floods.
M
You
know
very
often-
and
it's
pretty
much
absorbent
at
this
point
in
time,
but
you
would
be
shining
a
bigger
spotlight.
There
is
already
a
lot
of
interest
in
developing
the
southern
part
of
james
island.
I
don't
blame.
You
know
land
developers
for
going
where
there's
still
some
convenient
access
back
to
the
urban
core
of
the
peninsula,
but
we
really
cannot
afford
to
have
any
more
dense
development
in
that
part
of
james
island,
and
I
would
hope
that
you
would
seriously
consider
my
request.
Thank
you.
B
N
N
I've
participated
in
comprehensive
planning
processes
for
city
of
charleston
and
several
other
cities,
and
this
one
is
definitely
the
most
comprehensive.
So
far,
so
it's
pretty
cool
to
see,
I
wanted
to
recommend
two
additions
to
the
transportation
element
of
the
plan
and
they're
related
to
some
things
that
have
recently
become
a
little
more
formalized
discussions
over
the
past
few
months.
I
think
these
things,
if
added
to
the
plan,
would
help
add
more
clarity
and
guidance
to
the
complete
street
support.
N
N
When
you
went
to
d.o.t
now,
the
answer
for
the
city
of
charleston
for
a
lot
of
things
will
probably
be
yes,
so
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if
the
plan
included
reference
to
the
complete
streets
directive,
which
also
outlines
in
that
directive,
specifically
that
the
bcd
cog
is,
is
the
holder
of
all
biking
and
walking
plans,
including
the
cities
and
has
combined
them
into
one
large
tri-county
plan.
That's
ultimately
going
to
get
rolled
up
to
the
state
level.
N
So
again,
including
reference
to
that
directive,
would
would
help
anybody.
Reading
this
plan
understand
how
complete
streets
will
be
actionable
in
the
future
and
all
the
different
entities
that
will
have
to
be
involved
with
that
to
assist
the
city
in
those
goals.
The
second
is
as
part
of
the
work
by
the
city
of
charleston
to
implement,
walking
and
biking
paths.
N
One
of
the
things
I
think
would
be
helpful
and
you
all
actually
touched
on
this
at
your
last
planning
commission
meeting
in
order
to
implement
paths.
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
the
city
plan
could
recommend
the
reassessment
of
zoning
and
development
codes
to
determine
appropriate
requirements
of
contextual
multi-use
paths
along
corridors
and
streets.
So
there's
places
where
they're
appropriate,
there's
places
where
they
aren't.
N
There
are
myriad
locations
throughout
the
city
where
multi-use
paths
would
be
vital
aspects
of
development,
but
at
the
moment,
since
it's
not
codified
the
city's
boards
commissions
and
technical
committees,
don't
really
have
a
formalized
ability
to
work
with
private
entities
and
public
entities
to
incorporate
those
paths,
so
I
think
a
recommendation
to
to
develop
some
formalized
code
around.
That
would
be
helpful,
recognizing
that
this
plan
does
not
change
code
and
zoning,
but
I
think
a
recommendation
to
work
on
that
could
be
great.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
really
really
appreciate
your
time
and
work.
B
B
O
O
We,
our
primary
concern,
had
to
do
with
the
treatment
of
the
property.
That's
north
of
clements
ferry
road,
which
is
the
highest
land,
and
we
have
learned
through
good
communication
with
the
city
that
it
is.
The
city
plan
is
not
inconsistent
with
the
development
rights
that
were
afforded
to
the
canehoy
owners
in
the
three
pubs,
and
we
very
much
appreciate
the
time
that
the
city
has
spent
helping
us
better
understand
the
city
plan.
O
B
C
Of
course,
first
comment
is
from
susan
lyons,
7
gabson
street.
I'm
delighted
to
see
so
much
of
the
city
plan
taking
water
flooding
concerns
into
account.
With
that
in
mind,
a
city-wide
water
plan
is
a
critical
first
step
in
the
aggressive
mitigation
effort
to
preserve
the
neighborhood's
homes,
historic
places
and
vistas
from
catastrophic
flooding
from
all
causes.
The
dutch
dialogues
report
first
recommended
a
water
plan
as
an
organizing
document,
and
the
new
3x3
advisory
committee
has
voted
unanimously
to
recommend
that
city
council
take
up
a
water
plan
on
an
urgent
basis.
C
As
a
member
of
the
3x3
committee
and
on
behalf
of
groundswell,
I
encourage
the
planning
commission
to
include
a
comprehensive
water
plan
as
a
top
recommendation
in
the
plans.
Resilience
chapter
second
is
from
kyle
h,
20
carolina
street.
The
city
plan
should
incorporate
the
state's
complete
complete
streets
directive.
The
city
should
require
any
construction
to
accommodate
all
modes
of
transportation,
including
pedestrians
and
bikes.
I
live
near
a
dangerous
stretch
of
king
street
that
has
been
made
more
dangerous
for
pedestrians.
C
I
just
finished
a
week
living
in
a
condominium,
downtown
charleston
and
spending
the
time
walking
around
indoor
dining
with
folks
all
over
town.
I
could
not
find
even
one
person
that
was
a
resident.
They
were
all
tourists
other
than
local
employees.
Downtown
is
like
disney,
but
with
25
of
the
shops
and
restaurants
shut
down.
Most
people
complain
to
me
about
the
inability
to
get
a
reservation
even
in
lower
end
restaurants.
C
In
my
opinion,
charleston
has
become
more
of
a
tourist
trap
than
a
place
to
live
several
of
the
couples
that
I
spoke
with
told
me
that
they
were
spending
three
days
in
charleston
and
then
on
to
orlando.
For
seven
days.
We
must
manage
tourism,
maintain
the
historical
integrity
of
the
city
and
save
it
from
drowning
from
lynn,
hanlon
67
meeting
street.
I
want
to
suggest
three
items
for
inclusion
in
the
comprehensive
plan:
one
a
comprehensive
plan
for
tourism
management.
C
C
The
commitment
and
the
city
plan
to
the
recommendations
of
the
dutch
dialogues
report,
affordable
housing
and
maintaining
charleston's
historic
and
cultural
resources
is
highly
commendable.
In
particular,
we
would
like
to
recognize
the
city
for
the
care
and
attention
page
documentation
of
african
american
settlement
communities.
C
C
Please.
Let
me
know
if
I
can
answer
any
questions
or
be
of
assistance.
We
look
forward
to
continued
collaboration
on
the
city
plan.
The
comments
include
on
natural
resources.
It
is
critical
that
the
city
plan
recommend
development
of
a
city-wide
water
plan,
as
recommended
in
the
dutch
dialogues
charleston
final
report.
This
water
plan
should
provide
a
comprehensive
assessment
of
flood
risk,
storage,
infiltration
and
drainage
performance
and
set
forth
water
assignments
per
drainage
basement
further.
C
The
water
plan
should
identify
preferred
land
use
strategies
needed
to
achieve
water
assignments
and
should
also
make
a
groundwater
assessment
continue
to
encourage
and
research
ways
to
incentivize
the
adoption
of
conservation
easements
for
cultural
resources.
A
new
historic
resources
survey
should
be
conducted
for
the
upper
peninsula
north
of
line
street
to
help
guide
preservation
policy.
In
this
rapidly
changing
area
of
the
city.
This
could
be
incorporated
into
recommendation
number
nine.
C
The
city
plan
should
recommend
adoption
of
an
archaeological
ordinance
and
prioritize
areas
of
the
city
where
archaeology
would
be
required
before
development
or
redevelopment
of
a
site
could
be
commenced,
such
as
the
areas
of
the
peninsula
and
the
ashley
river
historic
district
recommendation.
Number
seven
should
also
recommend
increasing
the
number
of
monuments
and
markers
dedicated
to
other
underrepresented
groups
as
well,
such
as
jewish
history
and
women's
history.
C
This
model
has
been
successfully
adopted
and
tested
in
many
cities
in
europe
and
recommended
update
to
the
2015
tourism
management
plan
for
housing,
research
avenues
and
funding
sources
for
protecting
private
subsidized
housing,
nearing
the
end
of
its
affordability
term
and
promote
scaling
up
new,
affordable
housing
projects
through
innovative
public-private
partnerships
and
take
full
advantage
of
the
palmetto
community
land
trust
and
recommend
that
the
city
bank,
any
feasible
surplus
city
lands
for
future
housing
opportunities
and,
finally,
for
land
use.
Research,
ways
to
assist
property
property
owners
with
flood
adaptations,
particularly
in
rapidly
gentrifying
areas.
B
Thank
you
chloe
for
reading
those
off
that
will
close
the
public
aspect
of
this
public
hearing
before
we
get
the
commission
members
questions
and
comments.
I'd
like
mr
morgan
to
ask
if
he'd
like
to
address
any
of
the
issues,
someone
was
noted
several
times
like
creating
an
office
of
tourism
management,
economic
development.
Would
you
like
to
address?
There
was
a
lot
of
issues
I'm
not
actually
asking
to
address
them
all,
but
if
there's
some
you'd
like
to
go
through
and
maybe
there's
some
quick
answers
to.
D
B
Anything
else
you'd
like
to
address.
I
know
there
was
again
I'm
not
actually
addressing
them
all,
but
councilmember
jackson.
There
were
several
things
I
and
if
there's
anything,
if
you
don't
need
want
to
touch
on
anything,
that's
fine,
too
we'll
go
into
commission
members,
questions
or
comments.
I
mean.
B
H
Thank
you.
Well,
you
brought
that
up.
Charlie
really
was
my
initial
question.
Some
of
these
recommendations
are
quite
specific
and
I
just
wondered
how
we
go
about
them.
Do
we
look
at
them
one
by
one
and
say
yes,
no
or
do
we
look
at
them,
one
by
one
and
say
they're
sort
of
already
addressed?
These
are
the
public
comments
of
things
that
they
would
like
for
us
to
consider,
and
you
brought
up
the
question
about
how
do
we
just
walk
down
the
line
and
look
at
them?
H
B
Well,
I
again,
in
my
opinion,
if
somebody
wanted
we're
going
to
send
a
plan
to
city
council.
If
someone
wanted
to
make
a
emotion,
a
commission
might
want
to
make
a
motion
to
add
or
change
something.
You
certainly
have
the
right
to
do
that,
whether
you
recommend
we
add
a
statement
in
there
that
we
think
you
ought
to
look
at
those
those
committees,
economic
development,
tourism
manners.
Whatever
that's
your
right
to
do
that,
and
we
pass
on
to
city
council,
it
would
have
to
be
passed
by
these
commission
members.
B
E
Yeah
and
I
and
I'm
I'm
responding
to
a
number
of
the
comments
I
I
would
like.
I
would
like
us
to
discuss.
I
believe
we
owe
councilmember
jackson,
the
courtesy
of
at
least
airing
her
concern
about
the
the
urban
growth
boundary
on
james
island.
So
maybe
christopher
I'll
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
I
you-
and
I
have
discussed
this
many
times
over
the
years,
so
if
you
could
sort
of
explain
the
city's
position
on
this
I'd
appreciate
it.
Thank
you,
mr
saying
good
question.
D
J
D
Absolutely
so
this
is
ocean,
neighbors
development,
that's
here
this
is
gremble
road.
That's
right
here!
This
is
trying
to
think
of
another
landmark.
The
signal
point
industrial
park
is
here
and
that's
already
inside
the
ugb
and
that's
in
in
purple
here
or
bluish
color
here.
Is
that
helping
you
orient
yourself?
It
is
for
me.
Okay,
so,
like
the
new
library
in
the
in
the
county
belt
is
right
over
here.
D
The
james
island
elementary
is
here
and
both
of
those
are
outside
the
ugb,
even
as
we
have
proposed
here
and,
of
course,
the
county.
All
of
this
is
inside
the
ugb.
Everything
here
is
inside
the
ugb
in
the
county's
ugb,
but
when
the
ugb
was
first
written,
it
had
ocean
neighbors
outside
it
and,
as
ms
jackson
noted
you
know,
that's
all
built
out,
and
you
know
there
won't
be
other
changes
there
and
then
the
spy
glass
development
which
is
here
is
multi-family
apartment
development.
D
In
our
opinion,
we
strengthen
the
ugb
by
making
areas
that
are
inside
of
it
outside
of
it.
Excuse
me
match
rural
densities,
so
our
zoning
is
much
more
consistent
with
the
line
being
on
the
western
side
of
folly
road,
because
folly,
road
has
the
the
folly
road
overlay
that
allows
densities
of
8
to
12
units,
an
acre
which
is
clearly
very
urban
and
that's
both
county
densities,
and
that
is
city
densities,
because
not
all
of
this
is
in
the
city.
D
We
understand
the
concern
about
african-american
settlement
areas
in
here
on
old
gremble,
and
a
lot
of
that
has
not
been
annexed
and
council,
you
know,
can
choose
to
not
annex
any
of
that.
It's
not
like.
We
are
hearing
from
a
lot
of
people
over
there
who
want
to
annex
it
present
that
has
not
at
all
been
part
of
this
effort
to
to
clean
up
this
ugb
line.
It's
just
been
to
make
the
ugb
line
as
consistent
with
the
zoning
that
we
have
in
place
as
possible.
D
We
definitely
agree
with
her
comments
about
keeping
this
area.
You
know
with
low
density
development
and
that
can
be
done,
whether
it's
inside
or
outside
the
ugb,
but
we
do
have
a
lot
of
very
suburban
or
urban
zoning
with
this
folly,
road
overlay
and
we
hated
for
that
to
be
inconsistent
and
out
and
outside
the
ugb
with
that
those
types
of
densities.
I
Christopher,
just
as
a
follow-up
question
to
what
you
were
talking
about
with
the
the
ugb,
the
african-american
settlement
area
has
been
mapped.
I
read
when
I
was
reading
through
the
comprehensive
plan.
I
saw
that
councilwoman
johnson
participated
in
some
of
that
process,
and,
and
arguably
some
of
this
area
would
be
where
that,
where
that
settlement
is
located
is
in
her
is
in
that
county
county
district
that
she
represents,
and
so
in
that
collaborative
effort
did
she
have
any
commentary
about
the
ugb
line
as
well?
D
I
D
So
I
think
she
was
a
little
bit
confused
in
our
discussions.
I
should
point
out
that
all
of
this
is
inside
the
ugb
in
the
county's
plan,
so
she
was
kind
of
confused
that
we
had
it
even
outside
the
ugb,
because
she's
like
well,
it's
inside
the
ugb.
Well,
that's
not
the
case
in
the
city.
It's
outside
and
we've
always
felt
very
strongly
that
that
the
areas
along
the
main
part
of
greenville
road
exhibited
very
rural
characteristics.
D
We
worked
very
hard
to
make
sure
all
this
land
that's
over
here,
the
that
is
the
oh
guess.
The
gremble
farms
pud
was
very
low
density.
This
is
all
this
is
a
pud.
That's
all
one
unit,
an
acre,
you
know
and
felt
that
was
very
important
to
keep
that
area
rural
and
that
character
of
the
rural
nature
over
there
and
saul
agree.
D
D
About
her
interest
in
the
the
potential
boundary
lines
or
names
of
settlement
areas
in
this
area,
which
still
needs
a
whole
lot
more
research,
because
there's
a
whole
lot
of
different
opinion
about
where
settlement
areas
are
over
there
and
which
ones
have
what
names.
So
that
was
the
bulk
of
what
my
recollection
was
her
discussion.
I
D
Of
what
I
was
gathering
correctly
comment
on
that
she
was
more
commenting
on
the
settlement
areas,
boundaries,
but
then
she
did
make
the
comment
about
saul
agree.
You
know
maybe
being
more
urban
and
and
things
like
that,
which
you
know
that's
an
area
we
haven't
annexed
any
in
and
it's
a
rural
community,
and
you
know
I
don't
anticipate
that
we
would
be
annexing
that
in
that
area.
E
You
know
discusses-
and
I
know
that
the
plan
does
talk
about
the
settlement
areas
and
and
that
there's
more
study
needed
and-
and
that's
been
mentioned
many
times,
but
I
think
the
point
you're
trying
to
make
there
christopher
is
just
because
we
adjust
this
urban
growth.
Boundary
doesn't
mean
we've
we're
unleashing
development
in
any
particular
area.
We
have.
We
have
multiple
areas
within
the
city
inside
the
open
growth
boundary
that
we
say
you
know
we
don't
think
should
be
intensively
developed.
E
So
I
don't
think
that
that's
that's
not
what
this
commission
would
be
saying
if
we
adjusted
this
boundary.
The
way
that's
been
suggested
and
I
think,
as
as
christopher
said,
this
is
the
10
000
foot
plan
as
we
as
we,
you
know,
get
granular
with
the
planning
and
and
if
there
are
zoning
changes
recommended.
That's
that's
when
you
go
in
there
and
finally
consider
each
parcel
and
the
specific
character
of
those
parcels
and
so
forth,
so
that
your
your
explanation
for
me
explains
the
position
and
I
think
it's
well
reasoned.
G
Well,
I
it
was
really
back
to
miss
jacob's
question
about
how
do
we
deal
with
the
comments
that
we
have
received,
both
in
writing
and
folks
that
have
spoken
tonight
and
that's
a
good
question.
I
don't
I
don't
have
an
answer,
but
maybe
a
suggestion,
and
that
is
that
you
know
I
don't
know
how
long
we've
been
at
this.
G
But
that
said,
I
mean
we.
We
had
five
or
six
people
who
took
time
to
come
to
the
very
potentially
the
very
last
time
we'll
see
this
and
another
handful
that
wrote
letters,
thoughtful
letters,
including
a
a
really
detailed
one
from
the
historic
charleston
foundation
that
you
know
we
didn't
get
until
this
afternoon.
G
I
just
asked
that
maybe,
if
we
do
approve
a
draft
plan
tonight
that
in
whatever
the
transmittal
is
that
goes
to
city
council,
that
it
include
a
copy
of
tonight's
comments
that
were
made
by
people
who
spoke
and
folks
who
wrote
in-
and
I
suspect
some
of
those
same
folks
will
will
speak
at
city
council
too.
But
if
they
took
the
time
tonight,
then
then
I
I.
I
would
like
to
see
those
comments
forwarded
on.
B
I
agree,
mr
bailey,
but
I
will
say
that
if
anybody
had
a
particular
issue
or
comment
or
change
that
they
would
like
to
make,
we
certainly
could
make
a
motion
to
send
a
plan
to
city
council
with
the
addition
or
the
recommendation
or
whatever.
In
addition,
so
again
we
can
send
it
with
the
comments
and
I
think
that's
good
that
we
do
that.
We
should.
But
if
there's
any
specifically
we'd
like
to
change
to
send
a
city
council,
we
can
do
that
as
well.
Tonight,.
D
Just
a
reminder
that
we
are
planning
to
schedule
a
joint
planning
commission
city
council
workshop
so
that
you
all
have
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
city
council
members.
It's
in
all
likelihood
going
to
be
a
zoom
workshop,
but
you
all
would
have
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
city
council
members
about
various
aspects
of
the
plan
have
more
discussion.
D
You
know
I
would
think
before
we
have
that
workshop
we'd
want
to
have
y'all's
recommendations
on
the
plan,
but
that
would
be
another
time
to
talk
about
some
of
the
things
that
you
all
have
heard
tentatively
right
now.
If
there
were
a
recommendation
from
you
all
for
approval
tonight,
that
workshop
would
probably
be
coming
on
june
30th.
That's
when
we're
hearing
from
the
clerk
of
council
that
they
have
availability.
D
B
H
H
I
don't
know
how
I
necessarily
feel
about
adding
them
or
making
motion
to
add
them
tonight,
but
I
would
like
to
say
that
the
some
of
my
comments
with
regard
to
the
different
elements
I
know
zimmerman
from
charleston
moves
reflected
some
things
that
I
also
concur
with
that
I
would
like
to.
I
don't
know
right
now.
H
There
was
a
recommendation
in
here
about
you,
know
the
the
str's
in
the
housing
and
I
think
the
the
recommendation
might
need
to
be
expanded
to
kind
of
review
that
ordinance
periodically
to
see
if
it
has
the
impact
on
housing
stock.
There's
a
management,
tourism
and
a
management
housing
stock
thing
together
in
the
under
the
recommendations.
In
land
use,
we
talk
about
the
african-american
settlement.
H
Communities
is
considered
a
land-use
tool
and
we
talk
extensively
under
the
cultural
resources
about
this,
but
we
don't
mention
it
at
all
under
the
land
use
recommendations,
so
I
think
that
somehow
should
be
incorporated.
You
know
so
that
if
somebody's
focused
at
land
use
recommendations,
they
don't
see
all
those
recommendations
under
cultural
resources
that
are
an
important
aspect
to
put
into
the
land
use
recommendations.
H
I
also
agree
that
we
need
to
add
a
recommendation
to
review
the
feasibility
of
the
archaeological
ordinance,
especially
on
all
the
work
with
the
african-american
settlement
communities
and
the
cemeteries
and
just
many
other
aspects
of
this.
I
think
that
needs
to
be
added
as
a
recommendation
and
not
just
spoken
about
within
the
plan.
H
We
looked
in
the
weaknesses
that
the
goals
were
too
general.
I
know
that
we
can't
sit
here
and
say:
okay
next
week
next
tuesday
we're
going
to
start
working
on
recommendation
2a
under
land
resources,
but
I
think
the
community
wants
to
have
some
sense
of
this
plan
of
how
you
timeline
this
out.
Planaris
actually
did
an
excellent
job
of
this.
H
H
I
know
ms
zimmerman
referenced
the
work
of
the
cog
if
we
that
that's
probably
a
major
edit
to
the
plan,
but
we
should
at
least
have
a
really
nice
box
that
references
this,
because
to
talk
about
integrating
and
connectivity
and
pedestrian
and
bike
safety,
and
not
show
a
graphic
with
respect
to
that,
I
think
sort
of
sends
a
little
bit
of
a
wrong
message.
So
those
are
some
of
my
overview
thoughts.
H
I
think
that
if
we
do
choose
to
move
it
forward,
we
we
should
move
it
forward
with
this
letter,
so
it
would
maybe
require
us
coming
back
as
a
body
to
review
with
that
letter,
and
the
specific
additions
would
mean
to
the
plan
for
council
to
to
meet
with
us
in
the
workshop
and
then
move
it
forward
into
the
the
council
approval
process
and
the
continued
public
hearing.
Thank
you.
C
E
O
K
B
J
Good
evening,
everyone
and
thank
you,
mr
chairman-
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
some
things
that
miss
jacob
has
already
mentioned
and
some
things
that
some
of
our
speakers
have
guest
speakers
comments
have
come
through
today
and
it's
in
reference
to
the
preservation
society
recommendation
to
number
seven
about
the
monuments.
I
think
that's
something
that
I
would
definitely
like
for
us
to
maybe
talk
about
a
little
bit
more
in
detail
and
how
we
will
be
moving
forward
on
that
and
in
reference
to
miss
katie
zimmerman's
position
on
transportation.
J
B
E
Yeah-
and
I
just
kind
of
want
to
echo
what
the
chairman
has
said,
and
that
is
if
there
are
concerns
now
is
the
time
to
talk
about
them.
You
know
if
I
were
a
member
of
city
council
and
the
planning
commission
of
the
city
of
charleston,
sent
me
the
10-year
planning
document
and
said
we
really
like
this,
but
there
are
a
few
things
that
we
don't
really
like
about
it
or
we
want
changed,
I'd,
be
like
well
why'd,
you
send
it
to
me.
E
B
I
Thank
you.
I
do
have
a
recommendation
because
I
know
so
sometimes
we
have
a
tendency
to
talk
about
subjects
but
talk
around
them,
sometimes
and,
and
it
you
know,
just
kind
of
it
happens
in
in
all
in
all
settings
with
respect
to
the
settlement
communities
in
our
equity
portion,
we're
talking
about
monuments,
we're
talking
about
protecting
those
communities,
but
what
we
have
and
we
talk
about
affordable
housing.
I
Because
part
of
the
reason
why
they've
left
is
because
of
the
cost
burden
of
policies,
so
we're
talking
about
cost
per
year
housing,
but
we're
not
talking
about
who
we're
talking
about,
and
so,
if,
if
the
idea
is
that
we
want
to
have
affordable
housing,
we
want
to
make
it
more
equitable.
We
want
to
express.
Have
you
all
these
expressions
about
cultural
resources?
Well,
people
are
are
a
resource
and
so
drawing
families
back
to
where
to
charleston,
I
think,
is
extremely
important.
You
know
miss
bryant
lives
downtown.
I
live
downtown.
You
know.
B
I
I
B
Tell
me
exactly
how
again
I'm
not
trying
but
tell
me
how
so
it's
concrete.
I
know
it's
tough,
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
think
about
how
you
would
word
that
so
that
we
put
it
as
that
we
can
discuss
it.
I
mean
I,
I
agree
with
the
for
policy
of
affordable
housing.
Look
at
them
how
to
attract
more
diversity
in
the
city
or
equality
of
diversity.
I
Or
whatever
say
something
about,
I
think
in
in
in
saying
that
number
one
we're
talking
about
attracting.
You
know
black
owned
businesses
back
to
downtown
or
elevating
those
businesses.
The
second
would
be
attracting
jobs
and
encouraging
diversity
of
jobs
and
then
really
utilizing.
You
know
those
tax
incentives
and
tax
benefits
that
we
have
for
what
is
it?
You
know
it
is
escaping
me
right
now.
The.
I
B
B
I
B
Okay,
other
comments
on
that.
On
that
specific
I
mean
I'm
I'm
for
that.
I
mean
I've
said
many
times.
I
think
we're
losing
the
diversity
of
the
city
of
charleston.
I
talk
about
all
the
time
whenever
I
black
church
moves
out
of
the
city,
I
always
email
christopher
and
say
why
is
this
church
league?
You
know
it's
changed
the
way
they
said
he
looks,
but
anyway
are
people
comfortable
with
that.
A
With
what
erica
said,
I
think
that
we
need
to
really
endorse
and
come
up
with
specific
policy
changes,
because
I
think
that's
what
I
was
talking
about
earlier.
It's
vain
we've
been
talking
about
affordable
housing.
Now,
for
many
years
and
and
and
even
workforce
housing,
blacks
rights-
I
mean
nobody
can
afford
to
live
in
downtown
charleston
anymore,
and
unless
we
change
the
policy,
we
look
at
land
and
re-zone
it
specifically
for
affordable
housing
or
for
workforce,
affordable
housing
and
and
may
make
the
process
easier
we're
never
going
to
get
there.
A
B
Well,
I
don't
think-
and
I
don't
think
we
can
be-
that
specific
in
this
30
000
foot
plan,
because
I
think
it
has
to
be
general.
I
think,
to
say
that
we're
concerned
about
that
and
the
city
needs
to
address
it.
It's
mentioned
it.
I
don't
think
we
can
make
this.
I
don't
have
the
professionalism
or
the
the
background
to
say
how
to
address
it.
I
think
that's
for
the
staff
for
the
professionals
to
do
but
tell
we're
saying
what
the
concerns
are.
Can
someone
help
me
here
or
tell
me
your
thoughts?
C
At
the
chairman,
if
I
could
just
mention
that,
a
year
ago,
we
published
the
housing
for
a
fair
charleston
report,
which
has
over
a
hundred
very
specific
recommendations
and
an
implementation
matrix
with
priorities
and
timelines,
and
so
we've
incorporated
many
of
those
recommendations.
We've
built
off
of
those,
but
also
we
we
didn't
want
to
copy
and
paste
over
100
recommendations
for
housing
in
the
city
plan
for
obvious
reasons.
C
So
we
we
have
maybe
a
cop-out,
but
we
did
put
a
recommendation
in
there
to
continue
to
implement
all
recommendations
in
the
housing
for
fair
charleston
report
as
a
sort
of
catch-all
just
acknowledging
that
there
are
many
more
that
are
referenced
there,
that
we
have
been
actively
worked
on.
We
need
to
continue
to
actively
work
on,
but
those
are
much
more
specific
and
that
will
be
included
in
the
appendix
and
adopted
as
part
of
this
plan.
B
Thank
you
chloe,
but
I
don't
know
if
that
addresses
the
the
way
that
miss
harrison
wanted
the
area
of
diversity
or
black
owned
businesses.
Those
kind
of
thing-
and
I
was
just
trying
to
think
out
of
we
certainly
could
say,
we'd
like
more
focus
to
be
on
those
housing
recommendations
that
are
listed,
but.
B
Any
other
comments
on
this
specifically
about
what
miss
harrison
brought
up,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
to
what
we
want
to
put
in
so
that
we're
kind
of,
as
harry
said,
now's
the
time
to
do
it.
I
think
now's
we're
in
session
we're
discussing
it.
If
you
have
a
certain
thing,
you
want
to
bring
up,
let's
bring
it
up
and
talk
about
it
see
whether
we
want
to
include
it
or
not
included.
P
Great,
but
I
can
hear
everything
I
know
my
audio
is
bad,
I'm
in
agreement
with
everything
we
discussed.
I
think
the
intent
is
great.
I
think
everything
that
has
been
brought
up
has
a
lot
of
merit,
but
I'm
kind
of
with
charlie.
I
don't
understand
how
we
can
implement
this
in
a
matter
of
the
next
hour
in
terms
of
recommendations
and
really
nailing
down
what
the
concerns
are
and
what
we
would
like
to
see.
I
almost
feel
that
would
need
a
whole
nother
work
session.
B
I
agree,
and
maybe
maybe
it
is
that
we
that
we
send
recommendations
and
we
meet
again
next
week,
which
and
and
say
you
know
we
want
to
get
this
right.
I
think
harry's
right,
it's
our
chance
to
get
it
right
if
we're
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
and
just
say
we're
going
to
send
what
staff
is
there,
but
but
we
have
concerns
let's,
let's,
let's
address
the
concerns:
let's
talk
about
them,
let's,
let's
include
them
and
let
city
council
just
make
the
decision.
H
Mr
chairman,
I
I
agree
with
miss
johnson
in
the
sense
that
you
know
I
had.
I
had
written
out
draft
my
thoughts,
but
it's
not
in
good
recommendation.
Verbiage
speak
to
be
included
in
the
plan.
It's
just
an
idea,
for
you
know
for
almost
under
every
section,
either
enhancing
a
recommendation
or
adding
a
few
extra
words
to
to
a
recommendation,
and
I
think
that
maybe
we
would
benefit
from
each
one
of
us.
You
know
sending
that
document.
You
know
to
staff
to
compile
it
and
then
that
way
we
would
get
it
back
to.
H
You
know
everybody's
individual
ideas
to
refine
into
what
we
want
to
add
to
the
plan
before
we
send
it
to
council.
Even
even
then,
I
think
we
ought
to
send
a
cover
letter.
Just
to
sort
of
you
know
explaining
what
we've
done,
because
I
have
you
know
page
under
title
recommendation
this
with
with
some
additional
work
to
it.
But
for
me
that
would
be
hard
if
somebody
else
gave
me
that
information
to
digest
it
at
the
recommendation
level
to
vote
on
it
tonight.
B
B
What
you
say
is
important,
and
maybe
we
should
all
spend,
make
a
commitment
to
say
by
the
end
of
this
week
or
by
monday
morning
or
whatever
we
have
our
written
comments
down,
gives
us
several
days
and
over
the
weekend
to
do
it
so
that
we
get
this
right
and
we
really
do
take
our
time
and
feel
like
we've
really
given
us
a
hundred
and
fifty
percent.
So.
D
We
may
need
to
be
a
little
bit
careful
about.
You
know
how
much
discussion
goes
on
outside
of
the
public
realm.
You
know.
Thank
you,
christopher
a
public
body,
so
I
I
think
it's
fine.
If
individual
planning
commissioners
have
things
that
they
would
like
to
have
addressed,
and
we
could
compile
a
list
if
you
wanted
to
send
a
list
and
then
that
list
could
become
a
public
document.
D
It
sounds
like
most
of
the
thought
I'm
hearing
from
you
all
tonight
is
on
the
actual
recommendations
themselves,
so
we
could
resend
the
recommendations
in
one
document
to
you
all
the
the
full
list
of
the
recommendations,
but
y'all
review
those
and
highlight
if
there's
some
others,
you
know
you
send
that
to
us
individually
and
then
we
send
group
and
make
publicly
available.
What
you
all
have
suggested
is
some
potential
other
recommendations,
and
then
you
all
discuss
those
at
another
meeting
on
possibly
the
23rd
or
a
different
date.
If
the
23rd
is
not
a
good
day.
B
Christopher,
I
think
that's
good
because,
and
I
would
ask
people
to
maybe
do
it
several
days.
We'd
say
the
deadline
for
giving
you
recommendations
is
maybe
next
week
the
end
and
actually
so
that,
because
otherwise
people
wait
and
I
do
the
I
do
this-
I
wait
till
the
last
day
so
I'd
rather
we
get
them
as
far
ahead
of
time
as
we
can
to
y'all
you
all
compile
them.
We
come
back
because
the
way
I
see
it
is
we
have
specific
recommendations.
We
either
as
a
group
support
a
recommendation
or
don't.
B
G
B
D
B
D
D
B
Thank
you,
as
mr
bailey
said,
please
make
it.
If
you
can.
I
know
it's
tough,
the
wording
of
miss
jacobs
and
miss
harrison.
I
just
talked
about
just
this
issue.
This
one
issue
of
black-owned
businesses
and
diversity,
make
it
as
specific
as
you
can
so
that
we're
ready
to
discuss
the
recommendation
when
we
meet.
D
H
B
B
E
Second,
that
and
and
I'll
take
the
opportunity-
and
I
support
whatever
I
said
about
being
specific,
so
that
we
can
have
some
language
and
if
you
need
help
with
drafting
the
language,
you
know
that's
why
we
have
staff
to
work
with
them
to
help
put
into
specific
words
what
you're,
what
you're
asking
for-
and
I-
and
I
think
this
is
the
right
move.
If
the
commission's
not
comfortable,
you
know,
we
need
to
be
comfortable
with
the
document
before
we
send
it
to
city
council.
E
H
Mr
chairman,
I
want
to
make
sure,
since
we've
been
talking
about
our
own
recommendations.
I
don't
want
us
to
to
gloss
over
mr
bailey's
recommendation
about
incorporating
these
comments
from
the
public
into
that
discussion,
somehow
that
there
these
the
recommendations
that
were
made
from
the
public
can
be
integrated
into
the
document
that
we
look
at
and
some
notation
that
this
was
a
public
recommendation
that
we
can
say
yay
or
nay,
about.
B
I
think
that
could
be
a
recommendation
as
well.
That
could
be
a
recommendation
as
well
that
we
that
we've
passed
that
it's
these
are
important,
that
we
maybe
we
considered
them,
but
we
want
to
pass
them
on
to
city
council
as
well.
So
I
agree
with
that
is
any
other
discussions.
I'm
gonna
do
roll
call
vote
just
on
the
motion,
mr
bailey,
I
in
favor
thank
you.
Miss
bryant
jenkins,.
B
B
B
You,
mr
hussain,
I
in
favor
aye
now
I'm
in
favor,
so
that's
eight
in
favor
and
not
opposed
that
we
reconvene
in
two
weeks,
but
we
have
specific
recommendations
to
staff
seven
days
from
today
and
I
appreciate
everybody.
I
think
it's
that
I
think,
as
mr
saint
said,
mr
bailey,
it's
that
important.
We
get
this
thing
right.
So
thank
you,
everyone
and
if
there's
no
other
comments,
I
appreciate
everybody's
time
and
will
stand
adjourned.
I
think
mr
bailey.