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From YouTube: Citizen's Police Advisory Council 8/5/2021
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Citizen's Police Advisory Council 8/5/2021
B
B
A
C
B
Good
afternoon
again,
everyone
sorry
about
that
and
welcome
to
the
city,
the
city
of
charleston
citizens,
police
advisory
council
meeting.
My
name
is
tuan
fielding,
I'm
the
current
chairman
for
the
the
council,
and
we
are
so
happy
that
those
of
you
have
dialed
in
and
those
members
who
have
connected
on.
I
have
been
able
to
join
us
today.
B
Hopefully
everyone
has
their
agenda
with
them.
So
let
us
start
off
with
introduction
of
members.
If
each
person
would
introduce
themselves
and
say
please
your
district
that
you
are
representing
and
since
I'm
talking
I'll
go
ahead
and
state
that
I
am
again
tuan
fielding
and
I'm
a
member
of
district
3
and
my
councilman
is
jason.
Sacran.
A
B
L
Well,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
I
wanted
to
join
you
all
and
just
thank
you
for
your
efforts.
It's
so
vital
that
our
citizens
connect
with
our
police
department,
and
I
appreciate
everyone's
time
and
effort
to
this
a
really
important
committee
into
our
ongoing
efforts
of
of
improving
our
city
and
improving
our
police
department
and
our
community
relations.
God
bless
you.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
L
H
B
B
Well,
while
we
are
waiting
for
that
one
additional
member
to
join
us
or
even
others,
I
do
want
to
state
that
you
notice
on
the
agenda.
We
have
farewell
and
appreciation
to
mr
kevin
smith,
who
is
from
district
seven
kevin's
councilman
is
councilman,
keith,
waring
and
unfortunately,
priorities
and
other
work
commitments
have
challenged
his
schedule,
and
so
he
did
send
an
email,
letting
us
know
that
he
would
no
longer
be
able
to
serve
and
he's
also
contacting
his
council
member.
B
So
hopefully
a
replacement
will
be
discussed
for
him
as
well
at
the
august
17th
meeting
of
the
city
council
and
then
in
addition,
we
have
mr
joe
lysett,
who
was
selected
by
mayor
teklenberger
and
unfortunately,
his
schedule
is
not
allowing
him.
Some
changes
in
his
schedule
have
prevented
him
from
being
able
to
continue
to
serve.
B
B
B
B
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
So
our
minutes
are
approved.
We
had,
incidentally,
I
wanted
to
state
at
this
time
too,
that
we
did
have
a
request
that
came
through
from.
I
believe
it
was
channel
five
news
that
wanted
to
receive
the
recommendations
that
were
discussed
at
our
june
meeting,
and
so
fortunately,
we
have
approved
the
minutes
and
with
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
june
meeting,
we
will
release
that
information
appropriately.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Everyone
now
we're
at
the
point
where
we
have
citizens
participation
period,
bethany's,
informing
that
we
do
not
have
anyone
signed
up
to
speak
to
us
tonight.
However,
there
was
a
comment
that
was
submitted
and
I've
asked
bethany
if
she
would.
Please
read
that
comment
out
to
us
so
that
all
of
us
would
be
able
to
hear.
A
B
Thank
you
for
reading
that
comment
to
us
and
if
mr
kennedy
is
listening,
we
appreciate
you
having
submitted
that
comment
to
us.
We
do
have
on
the
agenda
tonight.
Under
our
section
of
updates.
We
do
have
councilman
jerome
harris
who's
going
to
share
with
us.
King
street
business
owners
outreach
request,
and
I
believe
mr
kennedy's
comment
is
related
to
that.
So
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
give
some
some
answers
in
that
regard.
Thank
you.
Bethany
for
sharing
now
we're
to
council
members
sharing
of
district
concerns.
C
L
You
know
I
heard
that
complaint
as
well.
Miss
grant
at
one
of
my
recent
neighborhood
presidents
meetings
that,
after
late
in
the
evening
that
literally
people
are
doing
as
you
described
and
using
it
as
a
racetrack,
I
did
report
that
to
chief
reynolds
and
and
and
so
the
traffic
division
was
was
supposed
to
be
on
a
kind
of
new
alert
or
lookout
on
the
expressway.
But
since
I
reported
it,
I
I
hadn't
heard
anything
back
on
it
recently.
I
Yeah
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
comment.
I
had
actually
seen
a
few
vehicles
within
the
past
few
weeks
pulled
over
on
the
connector,
and
I
had
never
seen
the
city
police
department
running
traffic
on
the
james
island
expressway
until
I
witnessed
that
a
couple
weeks
ago,
so
I'm
hoping
that
they
they
keep
on.
N
If
we're
at
the
bottom
of
the
base
of
the
bridge,
we
can
do
it
there,
but
we've
tried
to
to
find
some
safe
spots
coming
into
town,
because
that's
been
the
complaints
that
that
excessive
speed
coming
down
on
calhoun
street.
So
we
are
trying
to
take
a
a
different
approach
to
doing
speed
enforcement
there.
So
that
is
on
the
complaint
list
and
we're
monitoring
that
weekly.
O
D
N
B
N
P
P
P
First
out
of
sync
with
the
side
that's
coming
into
the
city,
it
has
a
certain
timing
and-
and
it's
basically
set
up
currently
so
that
people
can
walk
to
the
very
large
median,
stop
and
wait
on
the
next
light,
because
a
gentleman
was
run
over
trying
to
get
all
the
way
across
and
if
you
don't
start
when
the
lights
change,
it's
a
very
long
walk
and
he
didn't
make
it.
It
was
just
that
at
sunrise,
just
before
sunrise
and
he
actually
got
hit
by
a
car,
and
that
was
a
fatal
accident.
P
B
P
B
P
Only
point
was
that
as
they
make
that
change
they,
okay,
that
synchronization,
is
in
more
than
one
direction.
I
guess
is
what
I'm
saying
is
more
than
the
two
lights
involved.
One
of
those
lights
is
involved
in
something
else,
and,
and
so,
as
that
change
is
made,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
sync
up
the
lights
moving
in
the
other
direction
across,
because
we've
already
had
a
bad
result
there,
actually,
who
that
I'm
aware
of
because
we
also
had
a
fatality
on
the
other
side
about
five
years
ago.
B
A
And
I
was
just
gonna
say
really
quick.
I
also
cover
the
traffic
and
transportation
meeting
for
the
city,
and
that
would
definitely
be
a
question
for
them.
I
know
they've
been
talking
about
numerous
intersections
that
they're
doing
pedestrian
improvements
on
with
the
synchronization
of
the
lights.
At
the
same
time,
I
know
that
question
comes
up
a
lot,
and
the
answer
normally
is
that
when
you
synchronize
one
light,
you
have
to
go
through
and
synchronize
all
of
them.
N
Yeah
and
so
just
to
reiterate-
which
I
think
I
think
was
george-
that
was
talking-
we
just
go
over
and
we'll
we'll
monitor,
we'll
we'll
give
our
recommendations
to
traffic
and
transportation,
it's
up
to
them
to
work
with
the
d.o.t
or
the
city
to
make
any
change
that
it
wouldn't
be
the
police
department.
We
just
we're
just
kind
of
the
field,
guys
that'll
go
over
there
and
just
you
know,
watch
the
intersection,
you
know
re-research
the
accidents
and
that
type
of
thing.
E
Oh
sure,
thank
you.
This
is,
I
mean
this
is
actually
fairly
common
to
all
districts,
but
we're
still
having
issues
of
people
going
through
cars
at
night,
which,
while
I
know
the
the
simple
solution,
is
to
lock
your
cars,
not
everybody
does,
and
people
still
do
get
irritated,
not
irritated,
but
they're
I
mean
I
guess
they
do
get
irritated
by
it,
because
you
think
your
your
vehicle
would
be
safe
in
your
own
driveway.
E
N
We
do
have
a
a
program
for
the
police
department.
I
don't
want
to
go
into
all
the
specifics,
because
it
is
very
successful,
but
it's
basically
a
program
where
we
have
electronic
monitoring
to
where
you
know.
If
we're
having
car,
break-ins
or
stolen
cars
in
a
specific
area,
you
know,
items
that
are
stolen
can
be
tracked.
N
It
is
a
successful
program
and
we,
you
know,
have
made
multiple
arrests
over
the
years
with
that.
But
it
moves
from
from
team
to
team
from
patrol
team
to
patrol
team
and
yes,
I
would
say
that
a
majority
of
our
problems,
our
property
crimes,
I
mean
obviously
violent
crimes-
are
our
main
priority
with
the
city
to
to
reduce
crime
in
the
fear
of
crime.
But
we
do
have
numerous
car,
break-ins
and
stolen
vehicles
and
I'll
tell
you.
N
N
As
we
should,
and
a
part
of
addressing
the
problems
of
the
property
crimes
are
just
some,
you
know
some
interesting
technology
that
we
purchased
over
the
years
to
be
able
to
to
put
out
you
know
and
to
take
it
even
further.
You
know
the
the
package
thefts
and
that
type
of
thing,
so
we
are
doing
some
interesting
things
with
that,
and
it
has
been
very
successful.
N
I
L
I
I
I
know
that
the
county
put
out
some
statistics
a
couple
years
ago
about
stolen
firearms
from
unlocked
vehicles
and
how
big
of
an
issue
that
is
in
charleston
cap
excuse
me
in
charleston
county,
and
I
see
the
signs
that
the
city
puts
and
and
neighborhoods
around
and
and
city
neighborhoods,
just
reminding
they're
the
in
cursive.
You
know
where
it
says:
please
remember,
to
dot
dot
dot.
Lock
your
car
shut,
your
garage
things
of
that
nature.
I
O
O
There
were
also
concerns
or
questions
not
really
concerns,
understanding
the
dynamic
and
the
background
on
the
recently,
I
think,
enacted
mayor
ordinance
on
protests
and
demonstrations
on
how
they
will
be
monitored
and
the
changes
that
were
been
made.
There
folks
have
some
questions
to
desire
to
understand
that
dynamic
and
how
it's
going
to
move
forward
and
looking
looking
to
the
cpac
and
for
answer
assistance
and
getting
information
more.
B
O
Madam
chair,
if
I
could
point
of
personal
privilege
since
I
chaired
the
criminal
justice
reform
subcommittee,
I
can
point
specifically
to
pages
19
through
23,
which
has
the
components,
specific
recommendations
around
criminal
justice
reform,
and
it
does
touch
on
some
of
the
these
conversations
that
we've
been
having
this.
So
if
you
want
to
do
some,
some
cheating,
crib
notes
in
terms
of
what's
relevant
for
our
pages,
actually
is
page
18
to
22.
In
the
document.
B
Thank
you
very
much
councilman
harris.
I.
I
did
note
that
the
poston
courier
even
mentioned
two
two
of
the
recommendations,
specifically
the
one
regarding
police
reform,
recommending
increased
transparency
by
enhanced
public
access
to
information,
body
body,
camera,
footage
acquisition
of
military
equipment,
improved
accessibility
of
information
via
social
media
and
conducting
quarterly
public
safety.
Listening
sessions
that
one
struck
me
because
I
know
that's
something
that
the
traffic
stop
committee
had
spoken
about
at
their
meeting
previously
and
then
another
item
that
was
listed
in
there
was
to
develop
and
enhance
ordinances
that
require
police
accountability.
B
F
Fellow
council
members
ivan
I've
submitted
my
report
in
writing.
So
I'm
not
gonna.
Re-Read
it
to
you
out
of
our
discussion.
We
did
have
a
motion
to
coming
from
committee,
so
the
motion
would
be
that
cpac
would
conduct
a
series
of
sessions,
information
sessions
for
the
community
on
whether
it's
a
bi-monthly
or
quarterly
basis
information
sessions
through
zoom
webinar
to
revolving
around
specific
educational
topics,
each
time
and
publish
a
calendar
of
that.
So
that's
our
motion
to
the
cpac
and
once
I've
submitted
that
I
can
discuss
what
that
is.
B
B
B
B
F
F
This
is
something
you
should
be
disseminating
to
the
people
in
your
district,
making
sure
everybody's
aware
it's
a
very
big
communication
tool
as
we
talk
about
transparency
and
understanding.
What's
going
on,
this
dashboard
is
a
really
good
tool
for
not
only
understanding
the
crimes
that
are
taking
place
in
your
neighborhoods
and
in
your
areas
the
response
times
and
things
like
that,
so
that
that
dashboard
is
a
lot
of
work,
and
I
really
think
we
should
be
promoting
that.
F
So
that's
that's
really
the
two
big
pieces
I
had
so
as
as
the
chair
mentioned,
the
our
our
entire
council
was
invited
to
attend
a
session.
Basically
it's
from
the
international
visitor
leadership
program.
That's
a
group
under
the
department
of
state
and
we
we
were
we
participated.
Several
of
us
participated
actually
was
councilman
harris
and
I
participated
in
a
zoom
forum
with
a
delegation,
and
this
was
the
follow-up
that
this
delegation
actually
got
to
be.
F
F
We
got
together
last
week
and
I
was
joined
by
councilman
iselle
and
council
well,
council
member
elect
yamaguchi,
so
it's
actually
great
to
see
her
there
and
participating,
and
she
she
was
so
madame
chair
after
hat,
gives
his
commentary
I
do
want,
if
you
would
allow
council
member
elect
yamaguchi,
because
her
perspective
is
also
interesting.
Based
on
you
know
her
perspective.
So
from
my
perspective,
it
was
a
very
good
discussion.
F
The
historical
struggles
we've
seen,
the
you
know
the
wins
that
we've
achieved
the
challenges
we
still
face
and
what's
coming
forward,
I
would
say
that
they
had
some
very
good
questions
for
us,
a
lot
of
us
how
we
interact.
There
was
some
directed
questioning
on.
Do
we
have
any
programs
that
target
disenfranchised
minorities,
maybe
lgbtq
the
disabled?
We
talked
about
you
know
the
need
for
probably
more
outreach
for
the
hispanic
community
and
things
like
that,
but
I
think
for
me
it
was
educational.
It
was
a
two-way
street.
F
You
know
you
don't
want
to
just
do
the
talking.
You
want
to
be
an
active
listener,
and
you
know
my
my
commercial
rescue
council
members
is
when
we
talk
about
that,
we're
trying
to
engage
the
community
well,
our
community
gets
bigger
every
time
we
meet
with
groups
like
this.
Our
community
is
not
just
the
city
of
charleston
and
the
more
involvement
with
people
like
that.
So
as
I
watch
their
social
media
after
they
met
with
us
they're
going
out
there
and
they've
got
influences
all
around
the
world
and
the
way
they're
talking
about
our
community.
F
G
I
too
thought
it
was
a
very
beneficial,
two-way
educational
meeting.
I
thought
they
were
most
interested
in
determining
the
nature
of
of
our
cpac,
which
is
advisory
rather
than
oversight,
and
we
pointed
out
that
we've
met
with
other
such
committees
and
councils
from
a
half
dozen
different
cities,
and
it
varies
from
city
to
city.
In
terms
of
what
the
nature
and
purpose
of
the
of
the
committee
is,
I
think
they
were
most
interested
in
in
the
approach
that
we
are
taking.
G
This
has
been
my
second
experience
with
an
international
committee
of
this
type
I
spent
about
a
month
with
a
police
captain
from
nairobi,
kenya.
He
and
I
became
very,
very
good
friends
and
we
learned
a
great
deal
about
each
other's
respective
culture,
and
I
think
that's
that's
what
they're
they're
all
about.
It
was
a
very
definitely
a
beneficial
two-way
educational
meeting,
and
I
look
forward
to
keeping
in
touch
with
some
of
those
folks
by
social
media
and
email.
Whatever.
F
And
they
were
really
they.
I
will
say
they
were
really
intrigued
that
we
had.
You
know
a
15
year
old
on
our
council.
Councilmember
elect
no
gucci.
They
they
were
really
impressed
with
her
and
what
she
brought
to
the
table.
So
councilmember
yamaguchi,
it's
a
long.
That's
a
long
bit
of
words.
They're
calling
you
mode
you!
It's
so
easy.
J
B
B
B
F
But
the
truth
is
that's
the
one
piece
that
we're
missing
and
all
of
our
mandate
we're
doing
all
these
great
things
we're
sitting
in
all
these
people's
meetings
with
the
one
thing
that
very
few
of
us-
and
I
I'll
add
myself
to
that
list.
Very
few
of
us-
are
then
turning
around
and
taking
that
information
back
to
our
own
communities,
we're
not
attending
community
meetings
or
even
promoting
them
or
promoting
these
engagements.
So
it's
very
honest
with
them.
F
I
said
you
know
this
is
where
this
is
the
point
right
now
where
we
need
to
turn
that
to
to
being
our
focus.
You
know,
I
know,
for
the
communications
subcommittee,
but
in
reading
that
and
you'll
see
in
the
minutes
when
we
went
through
the
racial
bias,
audit
and
things
like
the
illumination
project.
That
was
the
highlight.
That
was
like
the
number
one
thing.
They
talked
about
all
these
initiatives
that
needed
to
happen,
but
the
primary
theme
was
community
engagement
and
we
were
created
for
community
engagement.
F
That
was
our
that's
our
mandate,
and
so
we
really
from
my
perspective,
you
know,
and
when
we
reach
out
to
groups
like
that-
and
they
ask
us
to
kind
of
you
know-
we
have
to
admit
it
and
we
have
to
say
that's
where
we
really
struggle.
So
that
was
a
takeaway.
Is
everybody
agrees?
It's
communication
with
the
community,
not
just
among
ourselves,
and
you
know,
and
a
little
small
group
that
we
have
so
they
they
really.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
so
I
totally
agree
with
their
observations
and
council
member
tamborino's
comments,
and
at
what
point
do
we
try
to
be
more
proactive
in
the
communication
efforts
and
maybe
invite
the
news
or
even
maybe
try
to
schedule
a
press
conference
just
to,
if
anything,
announce
ourselves
make
sure
everyone
knows
who
we
are
and
then
make
sure
that
we
communicate
all
the
outlets
that
that
the
citizens
have
to
get
in
touch
with
us,
rather
than
maybe
waiting
on
the
news
to
pick
up
our
meetings?
H
B
I'm
glad
you
asked
that
question,
because
if
you,
if
you
look
back
into
in
the
minutes
from
our
previous
cpac
meeting,
the
communications
subcommittee
had
gotten
the
council
to
actually
approve
of
us
providing
an
email
address
so
that
we
could
publicize
that
email
address
and
citizens
would
be
able
to
email
us
any
concerns
that
they
had
as
well
as
allow
us
an
opportunity
to
email
to
them
any
any
actions,
any
activities,
any
information
to
help
to
get
the
citizens
more
aware
of.
What's
going
on
with
the
police
department
in
the
community
at
large.
B
So
if
we
could
those
of
you
who
have
not
gotten
an
email
address
sent
to
paul
tamborino,
please
do
so
so
that
we
can
go
ahead
and
have
that
advertisement
done,
and
it's
also
important
that
we
work
on
these
subcommittees
that
we
signed
up
to
work
on
so
that
the
differences
can
be
made.
We
can
help
the
police
department
with
the
differences
that
need
to
happen
to
bring
about
some
positive
change
with
the
disparities
that
have
already
been
indicated
through
the
racial
bias
audit.
B
F
Matter,
let
me
point
out
also:
you
know
that
you
just
voted
on,
believe
it
or
not.
You
just
voted
on
a
motion
council,
fellow
council
members.
You
just
put
it
on
motion
that
addresses
that
and
if
you
hadn't
read
what
the
details
were,
is
you
know,
meeting
after
meeting
we
pushed
back
to
the
different
council
members?
F
Please
coordinate
with
your
city,
council
member.
Please
go
to
these.
You
know
these
district
meetings.
Please
have
neighborhood
meetings,
we
say
it
over
and
over
and
the
subcommittee.
This
has
been
an
evolution
of
process
for
us.
We
keep
ticking
off
saying
we
crossed
that
bridge.
Nothing
happened.
We
crossed
this
bridge,
nothing
happened,
so
the
motion
you
just
voted
on
is
basically
saying
we
get
it
most
of
these
council
members
are
not
doing
that
and
so,
rather
than
saying
that
we
did
a
disclaimer,
we
told
them,
they
didn't
do
it.
F
We
we
fulfilled
what
were
our
responsibility?
The
the
idea
is
we're
going
to
take
it
to
the
next
level
and
I'm
not
going
to
say,
take
it
out
of
your
hands
because
we
still
want
you
to
do
that.
But
now,
as
a
cpac,
you
all
just
approved
us
creating
a
calendar
for
the
entire
city
to
pick
a
topic
and
then
start
inviting
your
constituents
to
come
to
these
centralized
meetings
that
we
will
hold
so
they're
not
dependent
on
an
individual
council
member
going
out
and
making
those
connections
we're
going
to
help
you
with
that.
F
So
we
obviously
want
you
to
participate
and
you
will
participate,
but
this
calendar
will
be
city
wide
and
we'll
be
able
to
start
pushing
that
out
and
say
we're
taking
control
somewhat
of
getting
our
communications
out
because
we
need
we
need
to
be
responsible
for
that
guys
and
you
know
not
say
well.
We
said
it,
it
didn't
happen.
Okay,.
F
Yep
and
so
at
the
last
meeting
you
all
approved,
the
council
approved
the
creation
of
a
media
coordinator
to
be
guided
by
the
chair.
So
that's
we
did
that
at
the
last
meeting
and
so
that's
in
progress.
We
do
have
a
list.
We've
gotten
a
list
of
all
of
the
media
primary
media
context,
as
it
relates
to
what
we're
trying
to
do
here,
and
so
we
now
have
that
and
so
that's
going
to
be
channeled
through
the
chair's
office.
So
we
did
that
yeah
we're
working
on
that
now.
F
Right
and
just
so
everybody
knows
it's
part
of
communications,
I
think
within
the
next
four
or
five
days
the
police
department
is
going
to
have
a
brand
new
social
media
director.
The
the
previous
one
only
lasted
a
couple
of
days,
so
they
have
a
new
hire
work.
You
know
I've
agreed
to
let
that
person
get
comfortable
for
about
a
week,
new
higher
orientation,
and
you
know
I
kind
of
made
that
clear
that
yeah
we'll
give
them
three
or
four
days
and
then
we're
gonna
start
bombarding
them.
F
So
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
part
of
that
onboarding
process
of
saying
we
want
to
work
hand
in
hand
because
our
communications
are
gonna
go
through
their
social
media
team.
We're
not
gonna
have
our
own
independent.
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
in
line
with
any
city.
You
know
social
media
policies
and
things
like
that
because
we
are,
you
know
we're
in
arm
of
them.
So
we're
not
going
to
do
our
own.
H
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
and
something
to
to
work
toward
moving
forward
would
be
like
a
you
know,
maybe
a
monthly
update
that
we
can
upload.
You
know
to
the
social
media
platforms
just
so
that
we're
constantly
feeding
the
public
with
information
on
what
we're
working
on
what
we
need
their
help
with,
and
you
know,
there's
all
kinds
of
content
that
we
can
add
in
that.
F
M
B
B
Moving
to
the
policy
and
procedures
subcommittee.
The
policy
procedures
subcommittee
did
not
get
an
opportunity
to
meet
since
our
june
meeting.
However,
you
remember
our
minutes
that
we
just
approved
from
the
june
meeting,
had
a
wealth
of
recommendations
from
the
policy
subcommittee
with
that
thinking
that
we
would
approve
that
I
have
already
reached
out
to
captain
corteller
and
deputy
chief
walker
to
have
them,
provide
the
information
connected
to,
and
the
statistical
data
relative
to
to
the
may.
30Th
and
may
31st
are
riots
that
were
in
charleston
as
what
was
requested
by
the
cpac.
B
B
Any
questions
on
the
policy
and
procedures
subcommittee
information
I
have
shared
okay
and
now
to
the
traffic
stop
subcommittee.
I
remember
joe
lysat
had
put
in
a
number
of
hours
and
time
and
commitment
to
that
committee
and
unfortunately,
his
priorities
are
such
that
he's
had
to
tender
his
resignation
from
cpac
and
cam,
ryan
and
frank.
The
three
of
you
are
members
on
the
traffic
stop
committee
subcommittee.
B
We
also
have
lieutenant
mcfadden.
I
think
captain
mcfadden
is
on
that
is
working
with
the
police
department
with
the
members
of
the
subcommittee
members
from
cpac,
so
which
of
you?
Gentlemen,
would
please
rise
to
the
occasion
and
serve
as
the
chairman
for
that
subcommittee?
Would
it
be
you
cam,
you
ryan,
are
you
frank.
B
H
B
Well,
since
we,
since
we
didn't
do
it
as
a
motion,
I
know
you
seconded
the
nomination,
but
that
just
means
that
we
are
all.
I
believe
all
of
us
are
very
much
so
pleased
councilman
shields
that
you
are
taking
on
the
helm
and
moving
forward.
I
see
hand
claps
and
thumbs
up.
So
I'm
sure
everyone
is
excited,
and
I
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
making
that
simple
and
easy
wendy
stiver
as
we're
getting
ready
to
move
to
her
with
giving
us
the
mid-year
audit
report
updates.
B
She
will
work
along
with
you
cam.
She
sends
usually
a
google
poll
out
to
set
up
the
meetings
for
the
subcommittees,
and
we
just
ask
that
everyone
would
please
very
promptly
respond
to
that
google
poll
that
you
get
to
select
your
dates
so
that
those
dates
can
be
locked
in
and
we
would
have
the
opportunity
to
use
the
city
zoom
link
to
have
those
meetings
and
again
thank
you,
mayor
for
letting
us
use
the
city
zoom
link
to
effectuate.
These
meetings
really
appreciate
that.
J
B
L
C
L
I
did
want
to
add
a
quick
comment.
If
I
may
you
mentioned
how
long
the
report
was
from
the
commission
on
equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
It's
really
not
that
long.
The
appendices
take
up
most
of
that.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
bethany
here
if
she
could
get
the
link
and
and
make
sure
she
emails
that
to
everyone
on
on
cpac.
L
But
lastly,
once
again,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
all
cpac
council
members
for
your
your
service,
the
time
you're
putting
into
this
and
how
and
particularly
our
new
high
school
members,
you'll,
be
on
the
next
council
meeting
for
approval
and
and
and
I'm
glad
you
alerted
me
to
the
new
openings
I'll
I'll
go
ahead
and
try
to
get
a
couple
of
nominations
going
for
that
as
well.
But
thank
you
all
for
your
service.
B
M
A
O
M
B
B
K
K
For
him,
what
I'm
gonna
go
through
here
are
just
the
the
highlights
of
our
mid-year
audit
report.
I'm
working
on
that
report.
It
needs
quite
a
bit
of
editing
if
you
recall
the
the
one-year
audit
report
was
quite
lengthy
and
we're
doing
a
little
reformatting
to
really
focus
on
what's
important,
rather
than
just
having
a
check
box
type
approach
to
giving
you
updates
on
the
audit,
and
so
we
want
to
lead
off
with
some
of
the
successes
or
the
department,
successes,
completed
recommendations
and
programs,
and
this
is
just
a
high
level
overview.
K
In
addition
to
this,
the
five-year
strategic
leadership
plan
was
created
and
several
elements
of
that
satisfy
the
recommendations
of
the
audit,
as
we've
discussed
in
other
meetings
for
training.
This
is
just
a
list.
It's
not
all
the
training.
The
department
gets,
but
it's
a
list
of
all
of
the
training
that's
mentioned
in
the
audit,
or
is
connected
to
the
audit
and
one
of
the
training
topics
that
wasn't
specifically
identified
in
the
audit,
but
is
definitely
a
a
huge
you
know.
K
Pro
progress
for
the
department
is
the
ethical
policing
is
courageous,
that
particular
training
is
active,
bystandership
or
intervention
peer
intervention
training
and
it's
being
adapted
more
nationally
under
the
name
able.
So
you
you
might
hear
epic
or
able,
if
you're
paying
attention
to
what's
going
on
in
policing,
they're,
somewhat
interchangeable,
able
is,
is
kind
of
under
the
wing
of
georgetown
law
and
epoch
was
created
and
implemented
by
the
new
orleans
police
department.
K
K
The
city
is
going
to
pay
for
it,
we're
hoping
to
have
that
done
by
the
end
of
2021,
but
you
know
they're
they're,
changing
a
large
software
system,
so
that's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
and
work
and
david
crosby
in
our
intelligence
unit
really
worked
hard
on
this
and
deserves
a
lot
of
credit
for
for
getting
that
across
the
finish
line.
So
in
the
meantime,
though,
we're
collecting
data
that
we
can
collect
through
our
field
contact
cards
and
we've
got
a
little
bit
to
share
with
you
on
that
later.
K
K
That
are
receiving
funding
through
other
sources
like
corporate
donors,
who
are
very
interested
in
supporting
police
innovation
and
reform.
The
justice
innovation
lab
is
also
working
with
the
solicitor's
office
that
was
founded
by
jared
fishman,
who
was
one
of
the
lead
federal
prosecutors
in
the
walter
scott
case.
If
that
name
sounds
familiar,
and
so
he
left
the
department
of
justice
and
created
this
organization
with
the
goal
to
bring
together
big
data
resources
to
link
together
our
data
sets
and
and
look
at
potential
improvements
from
that
direction.
K
I
just
got
an
update
from
their
data
scientist
and
they're,
estimating
it'll
probably
take
three
to
four
months
for
them
to
complete
the
analysis
on
our
data
and
have
a
preliminary
report
for
us.
That
second,
is
a
proposed
partnership
with
the
center
for
policing
equity.
We've
met
a
couple
of
times
with
their
folks
and
their
folks
are
going
to
put
together
a
proposal
and
a
scope
of
work
plan
and
present
that
to
us
at
the
end
of
this
month.
K
This
slide
is
about
you
and
I
think
the
this
meeting
itself
is
really
evidence
of
the
successes
of
cpac.
Finding
32
in
the
audit
was
that
cpac
was
lacking
some
some
structure
and
clarification
on
what
your
role
is,
and
I
I've
got
to
give
a
lot
of
credit
to
tuan
and
your
leadership
in
the
last
two
years.
K
You
really
have
supported
a
lot
of
improved
structure
and
formats
with
this
group,
and
I
think
the
the
you
know
the
reports
that
we're
getting
where
you
know
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
We
actually
are
hearing
some
concerns
from
the
community,
and
this
this
organization
is
being
used
as
a
as
a
communication
tool
to
identify
concerns
and
bring
them
forward
to
the
police
department
is,
is
really
one
of
the
the
goals
for
which
cpac
was
created,
and
so
it's
exciting
to
see
the
development
here.
K
Obviously
we're
going
to
go
over
the
recommendations
or
the
policy
recommendations
in
the
department's
response
later
in
the
meeting,
and
I
don't
have
to
tell
you
again
how
proud
we
are
of
that
new
crime
lab
those
of
you
who
who
were
able
to
go
out
there
really
can.
You
know,
spoke
to
the
work
that
went
into
that
to
get
that
up
and
running
so
next
steps.
K
We
are
working
on
this,
it's
in
the
draft
stage
and
here's
a
screenshot
of
it.
This
is
not
the
actual
dashboard,
but,
as
you
can
see,
what
we're
doing
here
is
identifying
the
major
sections
of
the
audit,
the
categories
so
that
you
can
click
on
this
pie
chart
drill
down
into
that
to
see
the
findings,
the
recommendations,
current
status
and
we're
putting
together
a
bunch
of
documents
that
we're
going
to
hopefully
link
back
to
this
dashboard.
K
So
you
can
click
through
the
dashboard
to
the
policies
and
the
reports
that
are
relative
to
those
sections
of
the
audit.
So,
whereas,
with
the
one-year
report,
we
had
a
very
long
document
that
was
pretty
static
and
you
know
that
method
allows
us
to
give
you
an
annual
or
every
six
month,
update
on
the
completion
status
of
the
audit
recommendations.
K
Whereas
this
dashboard
will
be
a
little
bit
more
dynamic
and
we
can
update
it
perhaps
on
a
monthly
basis
or
a
quarterly
basis,
whichever
works
most
effectively
for
the
particular
recommendation
involved.
And
so
not
all
of
these
recommendations
are
going
to
be
updated
on
a
monthly
basis,
and
but
those
that
can
be
updated
will
be
updated
and
the
community
will
be
able
to
go
into
this
dashboard
and
see
where
we're
at
with
all
of
these
recommendations,
so
moving
on
actual
data
and
analysis.
I've
got
to
throw
a
few
caveats
here.
K
One
is
all
of
the
data
or
almost
all
the
data
used
in
this
section
of
my
update
came
from
the
pdi
website.
The
police
data
initiative,
which
is
on
the
city
of
charleston
police
department's
website,
there's
a
page
that
has
the
dashboard
that
paul
mentioned,
there's
also
a
internal
affairs
dashboard
on
there,
where
you
can
see
information
about
use
of
forced
data
and
things
like
that.
K
Most
of
this
data
comes
from
there.
It
is
published
in
several
formats,
including
csv.
Anybody
can
download
the
data
sets
and
you
know,
produce
charts
or
or
mapping
with
it.
It
includes
a
latitude
longitude
data,
and
so
the
first
thing
we
looked
at
is
what's
going
on
with
traffic
citations,
and
so
we've
got
2015
to
2017
and
then
2019
to
21
for
comparison
purposes
and
of
course,
21
is
only
half
the
year
because
we're
only
halfway
through
the
year.
K
2018
is
missing
because
we
changed
our
data
systems
in
2018,
and
so
we
don't
have
a
complete
year
of
data
on
that
pdi
website.
But
this
gives
you
kind
of
a
good
before
after
and
what's
critical
here
over
to
the
side,
I
I
you
can
see
what
the
abbreviations,
vlv,
hmv
and
dlv
stand
for.
All
of
the
citations
were
coded
according
to
the
south,
carolina
bench
book
or
definitions
for
types
of
violations.
K
K
K
K
As
I
mentioned
already,
all
officers
are
required
to
complete
a
field
contact
card
documenting
their
traffic,
stops
for
every
proactive,
stop
they
make
of
of
vehicles
and
of
people
and
people
on
bicycles,
and
so
what
you
see?
There
is
a
drastic
increase
in
the
total
number
of
field
contact
cards
that
were
written
starting
in
january,
and
a
an
increase
in
those
that
were
created
for
traffic
stops
the
stop
data
or
that
orange
line
comes
from
the
cad
data
and
because
that
gray
line
and
the
orange
line
move
very
tightly
together.
K
That
tells
me
that
we've
achieved
a
high
level
of
consistency
and
compliance
in
the
creation
of
these
records
compared
to
the
number
of
stops
that
officers
are
making.
So
the
policy
worked
to
achieve
what
it
was
trying
to
achieve,
and
again
a
lot
of
great
credit
to
captain
ruder
for
getting
this
implemented,
it's
possible
that
we
will
never
see
those
lines
converge
and,
and
that's
because
the
cad
data
and
the
fcc
data
isn't
exactly
aligned.
K
The
next
slide
are.
These
are
2021s
the
first
six
months
of
stops,
and
this
is
strictly
from
the
from
the
field
contact
cards,
so
these
are
traffic
stops
with
citations
or
the
tsc
and
traffic
stops
with
warnings
or
the
tsw,
and
on
the
left
side
you
can
see
total
numbers
broken
down
by
race,
where
the
the
warning
stops
are
in
orange
and
the
citation
stops
are
in
blue
and
then
on
the
right
side.
You
can
see
those
broken
down
as
a
percentage
of
interactions
just
distributed
by
race.
K
We
have
to
be
careful
in
interpreting
this
data.
It
doesn't
answer
all
the
questions
and
I
think
good
data
should
prompt
us
to
ask
more
questions
and
which
tends
to
lead
to
more
data
and
then
more
questions
and
more
data,
which
is
how
we
spend
a
lot
of
time.
If
we
go
down
this
particular
rabbit
hole.
K
K
So
this
is
so
basically
one
of
the
things
I
have
to
point
out
here
is:
if
you
look
at
the
audit,
you
know
they
explain
their
methodology
in
the
audit,
which
is
you
know,
things
like
regression,
analysis
and
and
chi-square
analysis
we're
not
doing
that
level
of
analysis
here.
This
is
just
basically
raw
data
and
when
we
look
at
raw
data
we
can
look
at
trends
and
compare
patterns
and
then
ask
more
questions,
and
so
my
interpretation
of
this
is
that
there
is
a
difference.
K
There's
an
identifiable
difference
in
the
outcomes
and
the
search
decision
for
traffic
stops
and
warnings
and
pedestrian
stops.
There's
a
pattern
here,
but
we
don't
really
know
what's
causing
it.
We
can
take
this
and
look
a
little
bit
deeper
and
look
to
see
if
there
are
other
patterns
in
the
data
that
might
answer
some
of
those
questions.
K
K
So
this
is
where
those
partnerships
with
justice,
innovation,
lab
and
the
center
for
policing
equity
come
in.
So
when
we
sit
down
with
especially
the
center
for
policing
equity,
we
can
ask
them
like
hey.
You
know
we're
seeing
a
pattern
here,
and
this
is
these.
Are
you
know
we'd
like
to
know
more
about
what
some
of
the
the
factors
are
and
whether
or
not
this
the
distribution
of
these
data
points
are
relevant
to
any
other
thing.
So
when
you
look
at
the
audit,
they
got
into
like
the
time
of
day.
K
Are
these
stops
being
made
where
there's
more
searches
at
specific
times
of
day,
with
the
with
justice
innovation
lab
one
of
their
goals
is
to
take
our
prosecution
data
and
work
backwards
into
these
stops
to
see
if
the,
if
the
searches
are,
are
meeting
the
objectives
of
the
search
right.
So
if
I'm
conducting
a
search
of
cars
in
a
high
crime,
neighborhood
are
those
searches,
yielding
outcomes
that
are
actually
contributing
to
reduction
in
crime?
K
So,
if
the,
if
it's,
if
we're
getting
a
lot
of
gun
crime
in
a
specific
neighborhood
and
the
goal
of
the
search,
is
to
prevent
gun
crime,
is
that
really
effective?
Are
we
achieving
our
goals
through
that
tactic,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
say
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
look
at
larger
data
sets
and
connect
everything
together
and,
if
we're
not,
if
we're
not
meeting
our
objectives.
K
K
Yeah
and
that's,
and-
and
that
is
something
that
is
showing
up
in
data
all
around
the
country-
and
I
know
we've
talked
before
about
frank
baumgartner's
work,
but
I
you
know
I
I
point
back
to
that.
That
is,
that
is
a
key
theme
of
his
book.
If
you
haven't
read
it
yet
where
that
is,
you
know
something
that
they're
looking
at
in
terms
of
trying
to
determine
whether
or
not
you
know
that
the
fact
that
there's
consistent
patterns
actually
leads
to
a
productive.
C
K
It
well,
it
could
be.
You
know
we.
We
definitely
need
to
know
more
information
about
this
like
we
might
find,
you
know,
say:
officers
that
were
hired
in
a
specific
year
are
conducting
more
searches,
and
you
know
that
are
not
producing
the
outcome
desired
by
the
search,
and
we
might
look
at
that
and
see
what
kind
of
training
those
officers
receive.
I
mean
those
those
are
good
questions
to
ask.
We
should
definitely
ask
them.
K
H
B
G
Wendy,
you
did
an
excellent
job
presenting
this
and
the
outstanding
statement
you
made
there
is
that
when
you
look
at
these
data
as
raw
data,
you
do
not
get
the
entire
picture.
You've
got
to
know
the
circumstances,
the
location,
a
multitude
of
factors,
and
yet,
when
statisticians
take
these
data
and
expand
them
and
interpret
them
without
the
complete
picture,
you
can
draw
most
any
conclusion
that
you
wish
to
and
justify
it.
But
you
did
an
excellent
job.
Making
that
presentation.
M
O
Wendy,
the
audit
indicated
that
there
were
areas
of
racial
disparity.
The
new
data
set
that
we
have
for
traffic
allows
us
to
begin
to
look
at.
You
know
our
change
policy,
so
we
can't
do
a
before
and
after
with
this
data,
where
are
the
other
data
sets
that
might
inform
discussions
by
the
traffic
stop
committee
of
just
the
trend?
Whether
or
not
the
trend
in
disparity
in
traffic
stops
continues
or
in,
or
there
are
other
areas
of
disparate
racial
experiences
that
we
should
be
aware
of.
K
Yeah
so
the
the
actual
mid-year
audit
report,
I'm
I'm
kind
of
shifted
my
focus
and
I'm
trying
to
get
this
dashboard
live
as
soon
as
possible.
So
the
dashboard
can
take
over
informing
you
where
we're
at
in
terms
of
making
progress
with
the
audit,
and
then
the
audit
report
can
have
more
data
in
it,
and
so
I've
pulled
a
lot
of
data
and
that
will
be
incorporated
in
that
report.
K
K
We
can
pull
that
together
and
and
take
a
look
at
it
in
any
of
these
meetings,
and
you
know
see
what
the
relationships
are.
I
found
some
interesting
things
while
I
was
you
know,
playing
around
with
the
comparisons
myself
and
one
of
those
was
that
there
seems
to
be
a
higher
percentage
of
calls
to
the
police
about
weapons
that
correlates
in
an
interesting
pattern
with
calls
to
police
about
violent
crime
in
general
right,
and
so
that
and
again
it's
it's
very
raw
data,
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
answer
all
the
questions.
K
But
you
know
when,
when
I
look
at
things
like
that,
and
you
see
patterns
come
out
of
those
data
sets,
it
starts
to
look
to
me
like
we
are
seeing
an
increase
in
the
relationship
of
people
calling
the
police
about
weapons
issues
against
violent
crime.
Does
that
mean
that
more
and
more
violent
crime
is
involving
weapons?
K
O
K
So
that's
primarily
what
cpe
does
if
you
look
at
some
of
their
other
work,
and
so
they
did
a
huge
project
in
las
vegas
where
they
looked
at
the
data
and
then
they
made
policy
recommendations
to
the
department.
The
department
implemented,
those
policy
recommendations,
cpe
went
back
into
the
into
the
data
sets
and
they
were
able
to
show
conclusively
that
there
was
a
change
in
the
outcomes
relevant
to
the
change
in
policy,
and
so
you
know
like
similar
to
this
this
slide
here
where
we
made
a
policy
change.
K
We
looked
at
the
data
and
we
see
that
we're
getting
the
results
that
we
were
hoping
to
get.
This
is
a
very
simple
analysis
and
this
is
kind
of
on
my
skill
level.
As
far
as
you
know,
data
analytics
go.
I
can
compare
these
data
sets
and
conclude
that
we're
achieving
the
results
we
want
to
get
into
you
know,
like
I
said,
multivariate
or
data
sets
with
multiple
variables.
K
We
need
the
support
and
help
from
organizations
like
jil
and
cpe.
So
I'm
I'm
confident
that
moving
into
the
end
of
this
year,
justice,
innovation
lab,
is
going
to
have
some
work
done
and
be
prepared
to
discuss
that
with
us
and
then
cpe
will
will
basically
just
be
getting
started.
Cpe
has
already
conducted
an
initial
assessment
of
our
data
and
data
gaps
that
will,
you
know,
guide
their
scope
of
work,
so
hopefully
they'll
be
able
to
to
move
pretty
quickly.
Once
we
get
an
agreement
in
place
to
partner.
B
Any
other
questions
for
for
mustafa
wendy.
Thank
you
for
for
that.
Wonderful
presentation,
very
informative,
and
I
I
do
have
a
question
about
disparities,
but
I'm
gonna
hold
that
to
when
we
get
to
chief
chief
reynolds,
which
is
kind
of
a
follow-on
to
what
councilwoman
grant
was
talking
about
all
right.
K
Q
Q
I
believe
that
myself
and
lieutenant
bailey
went
through
the
policy
on
geo
10
with
you.
We
got
some
feedback
and
we
are
working
on
that
and
then
following
the
recommendations
that
were
presented
from
the
last
cpac
meeting
and
voted
on
in
may
of
2021
and
with
miss.
Madam
chairman,
presenting
a
formal
presentation
to
the
chief
that
we
have
what
you
guys
recommended
in
our
response
to
it,
which
I
think
is
a
great
starting
point
on
this
relationship
that
we
have
next
slide.
Q
Please.
So
the
first
recommendation
it
talks
about
the
written
process.
I
believe,
last
time,
miss
doris
grant
stated
that
it
was
hard
to
navigate
the
system
in
reference
to
how
to
file
a
complaint
with
the
cpd
in
that.
In
terms
of
that,
it
was
hard
to
locate
it
on
our
website,
and
I
did
acknowledge
that
our
website
is
a
little
bit
convoluted
in
terms
of
finding
the
actual
brochure
that
we
have
on
there.
Q
So
right
here,
this
is
where
the
pamphlet
is
currently
like.
I
said
it's
hard
to
navigate
through
unless
you
really
know
where
it
is
on
the
website,
and
the
next
slide
is
going
to
show
the
actual
layout
of
the
pamphlet
and
it
talks
about
what
is
a
professional
standards
office
kind
of
who
we
are
in
our
mission
statement.
Q
You
know
how
do
you
file
a
complaint?
What's
going
to
happen
when
you
file
a
complaint,
all
the
different
ways
to
file
the
complaint
and
on
the
blue
side
it
kind
of
walks
you
through
the
complaint
process
and
that
to
me
that's
the
most
important
part,
because
citizens
want
to
know
what
happens
when
I
file
the
complaint.
Q
The
next
recommendation
from
cpac
was
g05.
The
written
directive
system
is
that
the
subcommittee
voted
to
recommend
that
cpd
ad
language
to
5.5
as
an
issuing
authority
to
include
cpac
ask
quote
you
authorized
to
propose
new
or
updated
geos
or
suggest
to
purge
general
orders
and
to
authorize
a
30-day
review
and
comment
period
for
cpac,
while
proposed
general
order.
Changes
are
under
reviewed
by
the
accreditation
office.
Q
What
we
wanted
to
get
away
was
that
specific
30-day
review,
because
a
lot
of
times
it
might
take
longer
and
it
might
take
shorter
or
than
meet
a
sense
of
urgency.
So
we
thought
putting
something
generic
in
there
would
give
cpac
the
ability
to
look
at
what
they
want
to
look
at
as
he
you
know
to
review
any
policy
they
want
without
keeping
you
stringent
to
the
timeline.
O
F
Q
Yes,
we
found
a
way
to
do
that.
That's
actually
really
easy
through.
I
believe
it's
the
fire
firefox
web
browser
that
we
are
actually
working
on
producing
it.
The
translation
took
us
time
just
to
make
sure
it
was
adequate
and
what
the
brochure
said
in
our
translation.
But
we
are
working
on
that.
Thank
you.
Q
We
are
going
to
add
a
special
tab
for
cpac
and
have
everyone's
pictures
and
bios
as
long
as
they're
willing
to
have
their
information
out
there
with
their
email
address,
so
that
any
complaints
that
come
forward
if
the
citizens
don't
feel
comfortable
coming
to
us,
and
they
have
that
trusted
partnership
with
you
as
a
representative
that
you'd
be
the
conduit
and
helping
them
come
to
us,
and
this
happens
a
lot
more
often
than
not.
When
people
make
complaints,
they
will
come
in,
maybe
with
a
family
member
or
with
a
religious
figure.
Q
I'm
not
figured
but
a
religious
representative.
Just
for
that
sense
of
you
know,
trust
and
compassion
with
them,
and
you
know
we
do
encourage
that
and
we
are
going
to
have
sergeant
dubose
reach
out
to
each
one
of
you
guys
and
get
this
process
moving.
It
is
a
fairly
easy
process
to
this
to
our
website.
O
Q
So
we
are
going
to
get
that
information
to
ms
twan
from
for
cpac
guidelines,
we're
going
to
present
it
to
her
so
that
she
understands
the
software
that
we
use
in
the
way
that
it
kind
of
replicates
it
and
we're
going
to
explain
to
her.
You
know
why
we
did
what
we
did,
so
she
has
a
bad
understanding
and
she
could
present
that
to
you
all.
Q
Along
with
I
forget
what
page
it
is
within
the
after
action
report,
but
those
two
should
marry
up
evenly
and
hopefully
give
you
a
better
idea
of
maybe
what
you're
looking
for.
But
once
again,
if
you
have
any
questions
you
can
reach
out
to
myself
or
dc
walker,
and
we
can
kind
of
walk
you
through
that
again,
and
everything
we're
gonna
probably
provide
to
missed.
One
is
essentially
in
the
after
action
report
just
in
a
different
format.
F
I
just
have
one
just
the
only
thing
I
would
say
is
on
the
way
you're
going
to
post
the
pictures
and
all
that
with
the
cpac,
we
probably
should
have
a
very
quick
training
on
how
to
to
the
you
know.
Developments
like
a
process
whether-
and
I
think
that
maybe
our
chair,
who
should
do
yeah
may
want
to
do
that-
a
procedure
for
us
on
how
we
should
handle
those
and
how
we
should
get
that
escalated
so
that
it
doesn't
die
on
the
vine
with
us
either.
Q
Absolutely
I
think
we
could.
I
handle
that
just
even
a
via
simple
email,
we
could
write
out
kind
of
a
flowchart
if
you
will,
if
you
do
receive
a
complaint
or
if
someone
wants
to
meet
with
you
to
come
to
our
office
or
different
ways
to
file
a
complaint
that
we
can
make
that
an
easy
transition.
Just
so
we're
not
holding
anyone
up
or
holding
the
complaint
process
up
and
once
again,
maybe
maybe
give
cpac
a
quick
tutorial
on
the
complaint
process
and
what
it
entails
in
full
from
filing
a
complaint
to
the
disposition
side.
Q
Just
so
everyone
is
aware
of
it.
It's
it's
what
we
give
our
officers,
so
they
know
what's
going
to
happen
when
a
complaint
goes
through
and
if
you
guys
are
any
part
of
this
process
now.
I
think
it
would
be
just
fair
to
you.
So
people
ask
you
questions.
You
are
knowledgeable
about
it.
Thank
you.
So
maybe
we
could
put
that
on
the
next
cpac
agenda.
If
you
guys
choose
to
do
so,.
F
And
she's
typing
what
I
would
say.
Madam
chair.
One
of
my
comments
is
with
all
these,
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
specific,
pretty
intense
things
to
review
that
we're
talking
about
for
our
upcoming
agenda.
There
may
be
an
occasion
where
it
may
be
a
good
idea
to
call
a
special
meeting,
for
it
doesn't
have
to
be
at
our
meeting,
but
maybe
for
some
of
these.
A
Q
O
Well,
I
mean
in
issue
instances
where
we
request
well,
the
recommendation
was
for
language
to
be
inserted
in
like
into
I
guess
the
last
one
in
particular,
where
you're
talking
about
a
separate
website
with
posting
and
that
there
will
not
be
language.
A
specific
language
mentioned
cpac
mentioned
in
general
lawyer,
10.
Q
And
that
was
a
conversation
we
had
with
our
legal
staff,
and
this
was
one
of
the
best
I
would
say,
outcomes
that
we
could
come
up
with.
That
would
be
fair
to
cpac
and
fair
to
us.
I'm
not
sure
if
fair
is
the
right
word,
but
I
would
say
it
was
a
good
melting
point.
If
you
will-
and
this
was
the
outcome
that
we
had.
Q
Q
Next
slide
there
you
go
so
in
5.5
that
we're
going
to
add
language
to
this
specific
policy.
That's
going
to
reference
cpac,
specifically
in
our
general
orders,
that
you
may
review
the
policies
from
time
to
time
and
offer
feedback
to
cpd.
This
is
just
our
response.
I
don't
have
that
exact
crafted
language,
yet
we're
waiting
on
civil
illegals
to
get
back
with
us,
but
this
is
where
it
specifically
acknowledges.
Cpac.
M
F
They're
asking
for
to
be
involved
in
an
actual
policy
process,
so
you
know,
I
think,
that's
where
your
discrepancy
may
be
so
in
looking
at
this,
it's
either
going
to
be
accepted
or
rejected,
with
a
rationale
for
that
as
written
not
you
know-
and
I
think
that's
probably
the
frustration
I
mean
I
want
to
speak
for
them,
but
that's
what
I'm
reading.
As
I
read
this,
that's
what
I'm
interpreting.
Q
You
know,
like
I
said,
the
response
is
just
something
in
general,
when
our
attorneys
get
together,
they'll
be
more
than
just
the
one
liner
here
I
can
assure
you
of
that.
So
once
we're
done
coordinating
it,
we
could
present
it
again
if
you
want
in
the
next
cpac
meeting.
Is
this
what
I'm
here
so
I
believe
what
I'm
hearing
just
to
make
sure
is
that
the
response
in
red
this
is
just
a
simple
response
from
us.
F
What
I
would
say
is,
and
I'm
not
being
flippant
this
I
mean,
even
if
you
write
this
out
formally
you're,
basically
saying
from
time
to
time
when
we
feel
like
it,
we
may
call
them
in
and
let
them
look
it
over,
and
you
really
that's
yeah,
that's
really
what
it
translates
to
for
anybody
who
wants
it
to
look
like
that.
So
it's
really.
I
think
what
the
policy
committee
is
doing-
and
you
know
I
would
even
say-
is
build
into
the
process.
F
B
Okay,
that's
fair,
that's
fair!
So,
let's,
let's
make
sure
that
we
put
you
back
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting.
I
appreciate
the
fact-
and
I
I
believe
I
can
speak
for
the
council.
We
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
tried
to
rapidly
get
a
response
to
those
actions
that
were
recommended
at
the
june
meeting
and
and
I
think
to
really
show
that
that
the
police
department
is
is
looking
towards
positive,
positive
activity,
positive
change
that
would
that
would
probably
be
best.
So
we'll
put
you
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
next
meeting.
Q
N
I
I
took
it
down
just
based
on
your
comments.
Tuana,
none
of
this
is
unreasonable,
and
this
is
why
we
present
it.
So
we
can
get
the
feedback
and
you
know
and
and
make
it
a
more
open
and
positive
conversation.
We
appreciate
the
feedback
and
that's
I'm
taking
notes
as
tony
is
and
we'll
make
sure
that
we
follow
up,
and
you
know,
present
a
more
detailed
response.
B
Q
She
did
take
down
that
information
and
pass
it
on
to
her
officers
and
once
again
we
did
have
a
shift
change
in
command
and
just
due
to
promotion
and
lieutenant
krazowski's
over
that,
so
he
is
aware
of
it.
But
the
timeliness
of
this
is
rather
interesting
because,
with
back
to
school,
coming
up
in
the
more
traffic
flow
on
b's,
ferry
and
glenn
mcconnell,
we
will
have
our
officers
out
there
monitoring
those
intersections
just
to
ensure
the
safety
of
all
involved.
But
we
are
aware
of
that
and
we
are
looking
forward
also.
Q
S
Good
evening
the
past
couple
months
we've
been
focusing
on
our
positive
police
encounters
and
outreach
with
the
youth
within
our
communities.
We
were
able
to
successfully
open
the
gathering
center,
which
is
our
first
community
center
over
at
22
flood
street.
If
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
swing
by,
please
just
contact
us
and
we'll
we'll
get
you
over
there
to
look
at
it.
S
So
we
are
staffing
that,
and
we
are
also
using
that
we
have
kind
of
two
sides
to
it.
One
side
is
for
the
youth.
The
other
side
is
for
the
community
for
any
of
their
needs,
and
then
some
programs
that
our
family
violence
unit
has
already
started
initiating,
including
women's
support
group
and
then
a
resource
center
and
educational
assistance.
S
Also
it
is
for
the
community,
so
anything
they
need
it
for
they're,
welcome
to
use
it
and
we'll
just
kind
of
assist
with
getting
them
in
there,
and
then
some
of
the
schools
have
expressed
that
they
would
like
to
possibly
do
some
conferences
there
when
they
need
to
meet
with
family
members
of
children
at
their
schools
that
live
in
the
area.
So
so
we're
expecting
great
things.
Out
of
this
community
center,
our
second
community
center
is
still
to
be
determined
for
opening.
S
S
S
We
did
some
outreach
efforts
at
bishop
gadsden
for
some
hurricane
preparedness
distributed
some
furniture
to
family
in
need
a
bike
giveaway.
We
assisted
police
explorers
with
an
event.
We
do
continue
with
our
pharmacy
program
where
we
distribute
food
to
those
in
need.
It's
every
wednesday.
At
mall
park
we
did
a
food
drive
at
first
baptist
church
and
we
today
actually
just
got
back
from
our
our
large
back
to
school
bash
at
the
gathering
center.
S
S
My
team
also
does
business
security
assessments
and
we
did
multiple
business
assessments
throughout
the
past
couple
months.
We
do
have
some
upcoming
events
that
you'll
see
probably
in
the
media
or
to
be
distributed,
such
as
national
night
out,
which
was
postponed,
but
we
that's
that's
slated
to
be
a
huge
event.
So
I
urge
you
to
please
just
come
out.
That's
gonna,
be
september
7th
and
then
river
dogs
game,
following
after
also
dog
day
bring
your
dog
for
the
river
dogs
faith
in
blue
weekend.
We're
planning
I've
been
playing
with
rich
robinson.
S
For
that,
and
also
we've
talked
about
our
partnership
project
and
some
more
outreach
in
some
of
these
communities
that
we
want
to
get
into
now.
That
covet
is
well
that
we
plan
to
get
into
depending
on
what
covet
does
and
then.
Obviously,
as
we
go
into
the
holidays,
we
have
some
major
events:
halloween
hal,
open
house,
good
night
lights.
We
want
to
start
with
the
hospitals
again
santa's
escort
ride
and
then
some
smaller
events
and
some
communities
that
we
want
to
do
some
outreach
in
as
well.
C
C
B
Thank
you
so
very
much.
Those
are
some
great
events
that
are
planned
and
that
have
been
held,
and
thanks
for
continuing
to
do
that,
we
I
know
vice
chairman
tamborino
has
been
talking
about
us
being
able
to
improve
the
communication.
So
hopefully,
when
we
get
up
the
lesson
learning
sessions
we'd
be
able
to
share
those
those
different
events
as
well.
That
would
be
another
avenue
for
sharing
that
now
members,
just
as
a
time
check,
I
know
we
had
a.
We
have
a
very
involved
agenda.
We
still
have
a
few
more
items
to
review.
B
B
O
O
Perhaps
that
could
take
some
of
that
that
that
salt
out
of
the
air,
the
request
was
that
cpac
act
as
the
neutral
convener
and
to
have
skill
facilitators
to
facilitate
those
sessions.
The
benefit
to
cpac
that
I
discerned
was
that
it
was
an
activity,
information,
collecting
activity
and
something
that
was
consistent
with
our
mission,
and
it
was
a
request
from
community
stakeholders.
O
Problems
associated
with
it
unresolved
questions,
whether
we
had
the
capacity
to
serve
as
as
conveners
did.
We
have
the
access
to
facilitators
and
then
who
exactly
were
the
specific
activists
and
the
business
people,
so
the
ability
to
pull
us
together,
timely
in
a
timely
fashion.
Again,
where
would
it
be
held
and
what
the
rules
of
engagement
are
would
be
were
all
questions
unanswered?
O
O
B
B
Thank
you
for
researching
that
and
getting
the
information
that
is
also
members.
That
is
also
the
same
citizen
who
sent
a
comment
in
that
bethany
read
for
us
at
the
beginning
of
tonight's
meeting,
okay
and
with
the
ride-alongs
council
members.
I
just
wanted
to
remind
you
that
ride-alongs
deputy
chief
thompson
had
worked
along
with
the
rest
of
the
staff
there
at
the
police
department
for
the
ride-alongs
to
be
established,
given
given
the
situation
with
the
covet
clothing
19.
Now,
I'm
not
certain
if
you
have
any
concerns
about
that.
B
N
Chief
walker,
no,
so
that's
that's
still
through
our
recruiting
office,
that's
sergeant,
gibson,
so
that
that's
the
contact.
I
sent
you
guys
last
time
right
if
you
send
him
the
con.
The
information-
and
you
want
to
any
questions
that
you
want
to
ask
and
and
the
vaccination
question
is
certainly
valid
or
wear
a
mask
or
whatever
he'll
set
that
up,
because
we're
actually
going
to
the
individual
officers
and
you
know
making
sure
that
they're,
okay
with
it
and
comfortable
with
it
and
so
he'll,
set
all
that
up.
N
B
B
Chief,
we
are
finally
down
to
you
and
we
thank
you
for
your
patience
and
the
awesome
work
that
your
staff
has
been
doing
with
us.
I
think,
as
you
listened
the
meeting,
you
heard
the
progress
that
is
underway
and
has
occurred,
so
thank
you
so
very
much,
sir,
for
your
patience.
Staying
with
us
and
for
allowing
the
members
of
your
staff
to
work
along
with
us
before
you
get
started,
though
chief
congresswoman
grant,
you
have
your
hand
up,
councilwoman.
R
Thank
you,
and
thanks
to
every
single
person
on
this
call,
all
of
our
council
members
volunteer
your
time.
Everybody
is
heavily
engaged
in
this
work.
I
think
everybody
understands
how
important
it
is,
as
you
know,
because
you've
been
involved
since
the
very
beginning,
we've
come
a
long
ways
we're
still
not
necessarily
where
we
need
to
be,
but
I
would
describe
this
meeting
the
last
few
meetings
as
as
significant
progress.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I'm
just
gonna
kind
of
go
through
a
speed
round.
R
R
It's
a
big
change
for
policing.
I
was
in
a
forum
last
week
and
there's
another
forum
next
week
that
I'm
participating
in.
I
was
on
a
panel
with
representative
gilliard
and
a
handful
of
other
representatives
around
the
state
up
in
north
charleston.
The
next
one
is
going
to
be
on
the
palmer
cancer
campus.
I
think
on
august
12th,
I
think
from
1
to
3
30
and
there's
going
to
be
more
discussion
about
open,
carry
and
and
just
what
that
means
to
our
community,
and
somebody
mentioned
earlier
public
safety
announcements.
R
I
know
by
the
city
to
post
the
new,
not
only
the
new
legislation
when
it
takes
effect
and
what
the
implications
are,
but
things
like
signs,
if
you
own
a
business
what
size
this
sign
should
be
the
specifics
that
need
to
be
and
providing
templates
that
people
can
just
cut
and
paste
and
put
on
their
businesses
if
they,
if
they
don't
want
people
that
are
open
caring
in
their
businesses
so
more
to
come
on
that
we've
done
roll
calls
within
our
own
department.
I
just
went
to
a
roll
call.
R
On
friday
we
had
a
several
master
role,
calls
to
discuss
with
our
legal
team
and
others.
What
that
looks
like
so
it's
a
significant
change
and
and
it'll
have
an
impact.
There'll
be
people
in
our
city
that
choose
to
carry
openly
if
they
have
a
concealed
weapons.
Permit
they're
now
allowed
to
carry
openly,
and
so
there's
things
with
that.
That
are
important
that
we,
you
know,
pay
attention
to
educate
our
officers,
our
community
members,
and
so
people
can
manage
expectations
and
understand
what
that
means.
R
R
I
think,
on
monday,
and
it's
it's
was
it
just
shouldn't
happen,
it's
in
it
and
it's
something
that
is
the
violence
in
our
state
is
the
worst
that
it's
been
in
the
history
of
a
recording
of
data
since
1960,
the
violence
includes
the
number
of
homicides,
the
number
of
shootings,
the
number
of
aggravated
assaults
they're,
the
worst
in
2020
and
2021,
is
on
track
to
be
worse
than
last
year.
What
is
what
does
this
mean,
and
I
think
jerry
brought
up
some
good
points?
R
How
can
people
get
involved
within
the
faith
community
and
different
community
groups,
sharing
information,
sharing
solutions,
sharing
ideas?
How
can
we
all
get
involved?
And
that's
that
is
the
question
tonight
for
me-
that's
the
most
relevant,
the
most
timely
and
the
most
important,
because
this
is
exegen.
It's
imminent.
It's
it's
ongoing!
R
It's
not
unique
to
our
city.
We
still
have
a
very
safe
city,
but
I
can
tell
you
we
need
to
do
better
a
couple
hours
after
I
did
a
press
conference
for
those
five
that
were
shot.
Two
more
were
shot
that
same
night,
so
we
had
seven
shot
one
dead,
we
in
the
second
shooting
we
had
a
12
year
old,
shot
more
than
once,
and
we
had
a
21
year
old
who's,
now,
probably
going
to
be
paralyzed
for
life.
R
If
that
doesn't
get
our
attention,
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
will
and
in
every
one
of
these
you
there's
typically
little
kids
standing
around
I've
talked
to
a
lot
of
mothers,
and-
and
I
can
tell
you-
the
people
in
the
community
are
tired
of
this.
It's
affecting
them
in
a
very
profound
way.
So
I
I
like
what
what
jerry
asked
was:
not
hey.
Let's
blame
the
police,
so,
let's
put
the
whole
thing
on
their
shoulders.
R
What
I
heard
was
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
want
to
get
there
roll
their
sleeves
up
and
do
something.
So
I
would
probably
put
it
on
christy
as
our
central
coordinator,
but
if
there
are
faith
groups
that
want
to
do
more,
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities,
not
just
with
the
police
department,
but
we
can
get
people
plugged
in.
We
can
speak
to
those
groups,
if
they're
afraid,
if
there's
fear,
coming
back
specifically
in
certain
communities
to
talk
about
what
we're
doing
and
how
we
can
work
together.
R
R
The
the
next
thing
I
just
want
to
talk
about
christie
hit
on
this,
and
it
touches
on.
I
think,
a
lot
of
things
that
we're
talking
about,
as
we
did
an
outreach
event
today,
a
back
to
school
bash.
We
called
it
in
gatson
green.
There
was
three
barbers
thad
miller.
If
you
know
him,
he
runs
the
family
barber
shop
on
spring
street.
I
think
he
got
the
other
two
guys,
so
the
three
of
them
just
sat
there
and
back
to
back
to
back,
were
given
haircuts.
It
was
so
positive
and
it
was
so.
R
It
was
amazing.
Actually
we
had
the
grills
out.
We
cooked
out,
gave
out
a
bunch
of
back
packs
and-
and
there
was
a
moon
castle
and
a
moon
balance
and
and
just
very
positive,
a
lot
of
families
a
lot
of
kids
and
and
a
it
was
a
good
day,
and
we
need
to
do
a
lot
more
of
that
to
to
provide
hope,
provide
protects,
provide.
R
You
know,
collaboration
christie
talked
about
some
of
the
programming
that
will
be
in
the
gathering
place
and-
and
it's
amazing,
if
you
know
catrice
she's-
got
a
passion
for
domestic
violence.
She's
got
a
passion
for
helping
people
with
resumes
job
training,
job
placement,
a
whole
lot
of
other
things,
and
so
that
was
a
great
event,
and
I
I
just
got
a
text
I
think
from
paul.
R
R
F
R
You
know
I
I
don't
know
heather
if
you
can
speak
to
that.
It's.
The
bottom
line
is
it's
up
to
the
business
owner,
okay,
and
they
have
that
option.
I
I
have
found
that
most
business
owners
do
not
want
open,
carry
and
and
and
most
of
them
don't
want
either
and-
and
so,
but
it's
up
to
them
how
they
want
to
to
make
that
decision.
R
R
Our
number
one
complaint,
our
number
one
loss
of
life,
our
number
one
quality
of
life
issue
is
always
related
to
traffic.
I
think
it
always
will
be.
Every
community
I've
ever
worked
in
traffic
is
a
very
significant
priority.
It
is
for
us.
Captain
mcfadden
ran
our
traffic
division.
She
did
an
amazing
job
pivoting
from
some
of
the
challenges
and
struggles
that
we
had
a
couple
years
ago.
She
changed
the
policy,
she
changed,
the
training
she
changed,
the
staffing
and
she
and-
and
we
have
a
new
lieutenant.
R
I'll
tell
you
that
we
continue
to
focus
on
another
collision
where
a
driver
was
speeding
and
hit
a
bicyclist
on
the
ashley
river
bridge,
killing
the
bicyclists
and-
and
it
just
goes
on
and
on
so
we
have
significant
issues
with
traffic.
I
appreciate
I
took
notes.
I
know
dustin
took
notes
and
I
promise
you
that
we're
paying
attention
to
that
that
it
is
a
priority
in
all
of
our
teams,
not
just
the
traffic
division,
but
we're
building
up
our
traffic
division
and
we
want
to
do
it
right.
R
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
just-
and
this
does
speak
to-
I
think
the
questions
about
data
and
and
it's
okay-
to
have
searches,
but
are
we
doing
it
for
the
right
reasons?
Are
we
doing
it
in
a
neighborhood
where
we
do
have
gun
violence,
where
we
do
have
shootings
where
we
have
had
disproportionate
number
of
killings?
Are
we
just
randomly
doing
it?
And
obviously
you
know
that's
not
going
to
work.
So
what
there's
a
lot
behind?
R
You
know
our
strategies
defining
those
codifying
those
implementing
those
training,
all
the
things
that
you
asked
earlier,
you're
right
on
point
and
these
conversations
are
important,
they're
relevant
and
they
hit
to
the
core
of
who
we
are
our
culture,
accountability
and
the
idea
of
of
making
sure
that
we're
touching
on
bias
and
and
making
sure
that
what
we're
doing
is
the
right
thing
for
the
right
reasons.
We
still
need
to
protect
and
serve
our
communities.
Our
community
members
want
that,
probably
more
than
ever
now,
but
they
want
to
make
sure
we
get
it
right.
R
So
this
work
is
so
relevant
and
so
important
in
this
time,
with
jamal
sutherland,
you've
heard
me
say
before
with
george
with
george
floyd,
with
brianna
taylor,
with
all
these
other
things
that
have
occurred
and
people
have
that
as
a
marker
in
their
minds,
we
have
to
be
up
front.
We
have
to
be
fairly
visible
and
and
and
loud
with
these
debates,
with
these
conversations
with
these
decisions,
with
what
we're
doing,
how
we're
doing
and
why
we're
doing
it.
Another
thing
that
was
brought
up,
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
it.
R
If,
if
I
sound
frustrated,
I'm
very
frustrated
so
I'll
just
add
that
to
the
list
of
all
the
things
that
we're
doing,
because
those
are
not
easy
cases
to
close
and
like
most
crime,
there's
a
very
small
number
of
people
that
are
disproportionately
responsible
for
almost
all
of
those
crimes.
We
arrest
them
and
nothing's
happening
to
them
I'll
leave
it
there.
R
Another
thing
that
came
up
tonight
was
latino
translations.
I
just
want
to
say
that
that
is
a
priority.
Paul
knows
a
person
named
iskra
who
is
kind
of
now
part
of
a
a
police
foundation,
effort
and
a
volunteer
and
doing
other
things
and
among
the
things
that
she
works
very
closely
with
the
latino
community
and
iskra
has
offered
to
translate
all
of
our
documents.
R
So
not
only
do
we
have
an
automated
way
of
doing
that,
but
we
you
have
to
review
those
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
the
right
dialect
and
it's
going
to
be
translated
properly.
So
we
have,
we
do
have
a
person,
it
is
a
priority.
It
is
important
and
I'll
just
I'll
say,
with
the
policy
recommendations,
what
came
to
my
mind
and-
and
I
think
dustin
hit
on
it
and
we
don't
need
to
reinvent
it,
but
it's
like
a
marriage
and
we
have
to
communicate.
We
have
to
have
these
conversations.
R
We
have
to
prioritize,
we
have
to
listen,
we
have
to
pivot,
but
we're
not
always
going
to
agree.
Sometimes
we'll
agree
that
to
disagree,
maybe
there's
a
better
way
of
doing
it
or
a
different
way
of
doing
it.
I'll
just
tell
you,
we
had
a
very
robust,
multiple
hours
discussion
on
each
one
of
these
things
when
you,
when
you
put
it
all
together
with
the
legal
team
with
our
deputy
thieves.
R
I
was
a
part
of
some
of
that
and
some
of
our
general
orders
there's
three
different
general
orders
and
we
said
well
it's
best
here,
although
the
recommendation
is
to
put
it
in
this
order,
we
actually
believe
it
should
be
in
there.
We
agree
it
should
be
in
there,
but
we're
going
to
put
it
in
another
order
and
not
in
those
others,
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
There's
you
know
there's
some
logic
behind
that.
R
The
committee
says:
hey
do
this
and
we're
just
going
to
do
it,
but
we
we
did,
I
think,
adopt
every
one
of
the
things
that
was
in
there
just
not
exactly
how
it
was
described
and,
as
jerry
said,
it
may
not
be
enough.
We
may
have
to
go
back.
We
may
have
to
have
more
conversation
and
we
are
open
to
will
embrace
that
and
that's
part
of
our.
I
think
mandate
and
the
last
thing
I'll
just
say,
and
I
I
really
don't
want
to
open
up
a
whole
new
can
on
this.
R
In
theory,
that
sounds
great,
but
he
jerry,
I
think
better
than
I
could
articulated
there's
a
whole
lot
of
things
that
go
into
that.
Some
people
are
disingenuous.
Some
people
don't
really
have
an
interest
in
in
anything
productive.
In
fact,
in
some
cases
what
we've
seen
is
they
want
to
break
the
law
and
they've
assaulted
our
officers
spit
on
them
they've
cussed
at
and
done
all
kinds
of
profane
things
in
the
community
that,
frankly,
were
illegal
people
have
a
right
to
protest.
R
They
have
a
right
to
have
their
voices
heard
and
at
great
lengths
we
have
protected
that
right.
We've
created
ordinances
and
other
things
to
make
sure
that
that's
done
safely
and
and
and
I'll
tell
you,
but
they
don't
have
a
right
to
break
the
law
and
to
create
harm
to
others
and
create
harm
to
our
community.
So
that's
my
only
little
caveat
in
that
conversation.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
productive
that
it's
meaningful
and
what
we're
doing
and
I'll
end
there.
R
I
think
that
was
a
lot
of
what
was
discussed
tonight,
I'm
so
thankful
for
this
engagement
for
this
conversation
for
the
meaningful
dialogue.
This
is
what
every
city
in
america
needs
to
be
doing,
and
this
is
not
an
easy
pivot.
I
do
agree
with.
I
think
it
was
cam's
comments
or
or
maybe
it
was
melvin
about
wendy
wendy's
comments
on
data,
but
there's
not
an
easy
answer.
R
We've
said
that
from
day,
one
that
the
data
is
complex,
that
when
we
go
into
certain
communities
and
we're
working
on
things
like
violent
crime,
there
are
going
to
be
some
disparate
numbers
that
doesn't
automatically
mean
bias
or
that
we're
doing
something
wrong.
But
are
we
focused
on
our
policies,
our
strategies,
our
methods?
Are
we
protecting
and
serving
in
the
correct
way?
Are
we
treating
people
with
dignity
and
respect?
R
Do
people
have
a
means
through
which
they
can
complain
that
their
complaints
gonna
be
investigated,
that
there's
going
to
be
accountability
and
that
we're
going
to
change
and
address
when
there's
a
problem,
because
there
are
problems,
there's
an
organization,
our
size
is
constantly
in
a
position
where
we
need
to
pivot
and
and
be
accountable
and
make
improvements
and
and
fix
problems
when
they
occur
so
I'll
I'll
stop
there
and
that's
probably
more
than
you
wanted
to
hear.
But
I
hopefully
I
didn't
go
over
my
my
ten
minutes.
I
probably
did.
B
B
B
Looking
at
the
reminders
and
topics
for
the
next
agenda,
I
did
make
notes
that
heather
malloy
has
already
agreed
that
she
will
attend
our
next
meeting
and
do
a
presentation
on
the
the
four
new
audiences,
as
well
as
the
open,
carry
and
then
we'll
have
the
cpd
response
to
policy
recommendations
from
captain
cortella,
and
we
may
also
have
ms
amber
johnson
present
at
that
next
meeting
as
well.
Please
make
sure
that
you
take
a
look
at
the
flyer
that
I
sent
you
that
captain
coachella
and
deputy
chief
walker
sent
regarding
the
virtual
citizens
academy.
B
B
N
Yeah,
just
very
briefly:
it's
just
something
we're
just
to
continue
to
build.
I
would
like
for
the
so
we
have
six
patrol
areas.
Just
so
everybody
knows
we
have
six
patrol
teams,
and
so,
if
the
group
wants
to
whether
by
email
or
just
checking
with
me,
I
would
like
to
have
the
team
commander
and
the
admin
sergeant
come
to
a
meeting
say
if
we
pick
team
one
which
is
calhoun
street
north
to
north
charleston,
we
can
have
them
on
the
next
meeting
and
they
can
introduce
themselves.
N
You
put
a
face
with
a
name
and
they
can
talk
about
what's
going
on
in
their
teams
and
then
you,
you
guys
know,
as
you
know,
whatever
district
you're
in
you'll
know
the
face
of
the
team,
lieutenant
admin
sergeant
kind
of
just
the
general
theme
of
the
team.
So
I
think
that
would
be
productive
for
meetings
and
I'll
keep
them
very
brief
to
you
know
three
or
four
minutes,
but
I
think
that
moving
forward
that
would
probably
be
good
to
put
on
the
agenda.
B
As
good
as
everyone
it
looks
like
our
agenda
will
be
pretty
we'll,
we
will
have
subcommittee
reports,
but
we
can
certainly
add
that
onto
the
agenda
deputy
chief
thompson
and
you
just
let
us
know
if
you
can,
let
me
know
whenever
is
available
for
you,
which
which
teams
would
be
able
to
come
to
the
october
7th
meeting
and
our
next
meeting
after
october.
7Th
will
be
december,
2nd.
R
B
B
Those
of
you
who
have
dialed
in
council
members,
as
well
as
those
who
are
connected
on
youtube.
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
your
participation
and
for
sticking
with
us
tonight.
We
really
appreciate
it.
If
you
have
any
concerns,
any
any
items
you
want
to
share
with
us,
please
feel
free
to
email
us
or
get
in
touch
with
the
city
is
so
that
the
message
can
get
to
us.