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City of Charleston Citizen's Police Advisory Council 6/30/2020
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Evening,
everyone
and
welcome
to
our
citizens
police,
advisory
council
meeting
for
the
city
of
Charleston.
Welcome
to
this
new
virtual
experience,
I
hope
everyone
is
comfortable
with
this
and
thank
you
so
very
much
Bethenny
and
Steve
rumbling
for
getting
this
set
up
with
Captain
Thompson,
so
Bethenny.
If
you
would,
please
call
the
roll
for
us.
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That's
okay:
Bethany
you
did
get
Camden
is
his
present
brain
okay.
Good!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Now
we
have
at
the
line
item
of
minutes.
We
have
a
number
of
sets
of
minutes
that
we
have
not
been
able
to
get
approved,
so
Bethany
is
going
to
fall
with
those
sets
of
minutes
to
everyone.
We
ask
that
you
would.
Please
read
those
and
during
our
next
meeting
we
will
have
approval
of
minutes
on
the
agenda
and
at
that
time
we'll
take
care
of
all
of
the
minutes.
G
B
Okay,
good,
thank
you
now.
This
is
the
time
the
citizens
participation
period.
Fortunately,
we
have
received
a
number
of
comments
online
and
I've
asked
Brittney
if
she
bethany.
If
she
would
please
share
those
with
us
council
members,
you
received
a
link
today
with
those
very
detailed
comments
included,
and
I
believe
we
had.
One
person
who
had
requested
to
speak
bethany
will
be
able
to
get
the
phone
number
for
that
person.
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Great,
thank
you
hi
everyone.
My
name
is
Emily
I'm
a
resident
in
Charleston
on
Sunday
May,
31st
I
was
at
a
protest
in
Marion
Square.
As
everyone
is
well
aware,
it
was
a
protest
against
police
brutality.
I
was
met
with
police
violence.
However,
what
took
place
after
the
protest
was
an
act
that
violated
the
rights
of
residents
of
the
East
Side
community
law
enforcement
agencies
descended
into
the
predominantly
black
neighborhood
blocked
off
streets
with
their
military
vehicles,
ordered
citizens
to
go
inside
their
homes.
I
The
committee
members
of
the
Eastside,
the
police,
violence,
witness,
was
not
anomaly.
Police
have
and
continue
to
be,
a
harmful
to
marginalized
communities
in
Charleston
and
across
the
country.
We
must
go
beyond
public
apology
to
actionable,
assess
that
the
police
department
will
take
to
ensure
this
will
never
happen
again.
There's
to
be
funding
reserves
and
really
given
to
the
East
Side
provide
their
residents
with
much-needed
resources.
That's
all
I
have.
Thank
you.
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Tell
you
why
Bethany
Steve
Steve
is
there
with
you
to
correct
okay
Steve?
If
you
would
you
categorize
the
comments
that
we
received
and
then,
if
you
would
tell
those
major
categories
and
I'm
Bethany,
if
you
would
read
us
from
your
summarization
I,
think
that
would
be
very
informative
for
the
council
as
well
as
the
community
members
that
are
listening
in
as
well.
Are
you
able
to
do
that.
K
L
L
There
were
five
comments
regarding
defunding
the
police
department.
There
was
one
comment
in
favor
of
diverse,
recruiting
practices
for
officers.
There
was
one
comment
in
favor
of
the
escalation
training
for
officers.
There
was
one
common
in
favor
of
community
policing
for
officers.
There
was
one
common
that
had
to
do
with
policing
for
profit,
and
just
that
was.
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What
I
would
like
to
do,
though,
is
ask
each
council
member
to
please
make
sure
you
review
those
all
of
the
comments
in
their
entirety,
and
would
you
please,
by
the
middle
of
next
week,
send
to
Steve
Bethany
and
me
are
items
that
you
think
we
need
to
have
on
the
next
meetings
agenda
to
address
those
comments.
I
would
hate
for
it.
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
community
has
sent
us
a
number
of
comments
for
us
to
digest.
I've
looked
at
them.
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Thank
you
and
again
community.
Please,
please
continue
to
send
us
your
comments
and
concerns.
We
really
want
this.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
addressing.
We
are
sharing
with
the
police
department.
The
concerns
that
community
has
because,
after
all,
our
goal
is
to
work
towards
having
harmony
between
the
police
department
and
the
community,
the
police
department,
being
more
understanding
and
of
the
community
and
the
community
understanding
the
police
department,
and
so
we
can
work
harmoniously
together
to
have
a
true
community
police
relationship
that
protects
and
respects.
B
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I
think
we
have
a
full
committee
or
close.
They
still
have
an
opening
here
too,
but
when
we
met
in
January
we
really
had
a
lot
work
to
do
to
get
with
our
council
members
and
make
sure
we
had
a
representative
in
all
of
our
positions
and
I
think
we're
close
now,
so
we
have
a
quorum,
and
so
we
we
just
have
some
ones
to
to
talk
about.
E
I
want
to
thank
one,
your
leadership,
Pacific
commitment,
especially
now
a
lot
of
things
to
talk
about
my
discourse,
a
lot
of
debate,
a
lot
of
dialogue
that
we
need
to
lean
into
and
I
think
we
need
to
create
work
groups
and
that
you'll
hear
a
lot
more
tonight
about
very
specific
work,
very
specific
recommendations.
I'll
start
that
with
my
introductions
of
one
nice
diver,
who
is
the
director
of
procedural
justice
and
policy
here
in
the
department
I'll,
let
her
introduce
yourself.
She
comes
here
with
a
lot
of
experience
in
January.
E
We
didn't
have
these
positions
filled.
We
just
got
the
budget
approved
in
an
announcement.
We
did
a
very
competitive
process.
We
got
to
people
outside
the
department
with
extensive
experience
and
I'll
start
with
Wendy
who's
going
to
be
in
charge
of
the
audit
and
she's
already
hit
the
ground
running,
and
it's
done
a
lot
of
work.
M
N
First
of
all,
I'm
really
really
grateful
to
be
here.
I
started
here
in
Charleston
on
April
6.
Obviously
that
was
after
you
know
it's.
It's
been
a
challenge
to
learn
the
city
and
learn
the
department
through
zoom
and
you
know,
conference
calls.
But
you
know
we.
We
have
made
a
lot
of
progress.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
want
me
to
share
my
screen
or
if
you've
got
the
ability
to
put
my
presentation
up,
I.
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E
Wendy's
humble
she's
got
21
years
in
Dayton
Ohio
police
department,
she
retired
as
a
major
she
held
just
about
every
position
in
the
department,
not
the
least
of
which
was
the
chief
of
staff
and
she's
done.
A
lot
with
NIJ
with
the
iecp
will
perform
a
DC
and
other
police
professional
entities.
She's
a
college
level
she's
ever
seen,
among
other
things,
for
business
districts
where
she
prepared
and
had
officers
relationally
connected
to
the
businesses
where
they
had
a
major
event
in
downtown
and
an
active
shooter
when
they
responded
and
I
think
30
seconds.
I
E
E
They
can
show
that
we
have
a
culture
of
accountability
and
transparency
that
we're
doing
the
right
things
for
the
right
reasons,
not
just
creating
a
policy
to
actually
have
an
organization
that
is
doing
what
it
says
that
wants
to
do
that
it
is
taking
the
input
just
like
we're
beginning
to
do
tonight
what
we've
started
in
this
committee.
These
are
two
people
who
are
really
gonna
help
us
get
that
translated
into
different
alcohol.
So
starting
to
give
you
all
the
Thank.
M
Precinct
commander
at
several
different
locations
include
our
entertainment,
district,
downtown
and
I
found
that
I
enjoyed
being
a
change
agent
for
that
organization.
I
hope
to
really
that
same
skills
that
here
to
assist
achieve
as
we
look
at
more
progressive,
modern,
professionally
based
policing,
fundamentally.
M
B
Thank
you
for
those
introductions.
Welcome
to
Charleston.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
finding
out
some
of
the
improvements
that
you
already
have
plans,
as
well
as
others
that
you're
thinking
of
chief,
you
and
Wendy
are
going
to
give
us
the
racial
bias
audit
recommendations
and
then
I'll
leave
some
time
for
us
to
ask
questions.
E
N
A
B
B
N
N
Diving
further
into
some
of
the
issues
that
we're
talking
about
now
in
recently-
and
you
know
maybe
how
to
prevent
tragic
outcomes
in
policing
and,
as
chief
mentioned
I've
worked
quite
a
bit
with
the
National
Institute
of
Justice.
What
led
me?
There
was
actually
a
research
partnership
with
some
epidemiologists
at
Wright
State
University,
to
investigate
the
the
intersection
of
infant
mortality,
exposure
to
police
and
social
determinants
of
health
like
race
and
I'd,
be
happy
to
talk
more
about
that
if
anybody's
interested
so
back
to
the
audit.
N
N
And
you
can
see,
there's
roughly
the
same
number
of
tasks
in
each
section
where
we're
at
right
now,
I
just
did
a
six-month
update
on
this.
Is
we've
completed
29
of
those
tasks
which
is
40
percent
of
the
overall
audit
recommendation
and
I
also
took
a
look
at
you
know
what
what
we
need
to
continue
making
progress
and
found
that
that
sort
of
those
tasks
require
that
we
increase
our
capacity
to
do
analysis
and
I'll
get
into
that
a
little
bit
more.
N
It
makes
it
more
difficult
to
gather
together
in
groups
and
do
the
kinds
of
community
policing
we're
accustomed
to
doing,
and
so
here's
a
breakdown
by
category
and
as
you
can
see,
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress
there
with
the
complaint
section
we're
at
91%
and
then
a
community
oriented
policing
where
we're
at
20%
and
and
a
lot
of
that
is
because
you
know
the
audit
recommended
that
we
need
to
do
more
with
community
policing.
But
that's
a
really
difficult
thing
to
measure.
N
When
we
talk
about,
you
know
actually
determining
what
the
impact
of
that
community
policing
effort
is
on
the
community,
and
so
we're
not
going
to
declare
any
of
those
done
until
we
just
have
a
better
system
in
place
to
do
that
measurement.
It's
going
to
take
some
creativity
and
some
work.
So,
on
the
analysis,
part
we've
got
basically
three
key
requirements
to
do
better
analysis.
N
First
is
data
infrastructure,
and
so
what
we
haven't,
focusing
and
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
you
are
familiar
with
this
in
your
field
of
expertise,
if
you
don't
work
in
government,
is
that
we
tend
to
have
a
lot
of
data
that
sits
in
different
systems.
Some
of
those
systems
are
proprietary
and
they
don't
talk
to
each
other
very
easily.
So
what
what
we've
done
and
we're
nearing
completion
on
it?
We
we've
created
a
data
Lake
which
is
a
centralized
repository
to
store
all
of
that
data,
so
we
can
get
out
of
these
here.
N
We
can
do
that
analysis
and
we
can
manage
it
a
little
bit
better
part
two
is
subject
matter
and
analytical
expertise
and
we're
seeking
to
contract
with
independent
research
and
research
institutions.
To
do
some
of
that
high-level
analysis
that
we
need
in
order
to
answer
you
know,
questions
about
disparity
and
bias
and
and
some
of
our
outcomes
and
then
the
additional
metrics
to
connect
our
outcomes
to
policies,
trainings
and
effort,
and
so
this
is
a
big
one.
Some
of
the
things
we
do
are
easy
to
measure.
N
So
if
we,
if
we
want
to
reduce
the
number
of
traffic
crashes,
that
our
officers
experience
while
they're
you
know
driving
police
cars
around
in
their
day
to
day
operations,
we
can
deliver
a
training
class
on
driving,
and
then
we
can
measure
the
outcome
through
reductions
and
crashes.
But
some
of
these
things
are
a
little
bit
more
difficult
to
measure,
and
so
things
like
cultural
diversity
and
implicit
bias,
we
can
we
can
deliver
that
training,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
challenge
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
measure
the
outcome?
N
Just
a
few
things
to
point
out
here
is
that
you
know
policing
in
the
last
five
years
recognize
that
social
distance
was
a
problem
and
more
distance
between
communities
and
police
led
to
distrust
between
the
police
in
the
communities
and
by
that
I
mean
you
know
our
inability
to
get
out
of
our
cars
and
actually
communicate
with
people
in
non
enforcement
situations.
And
so
we've
really
worked
hard
in
the
last
five
years
to
close
that
social
distance
and
create
more
opportunities
for
the
police
to
have
good
positive
interactions
with
the
community.
N
But
now
we're
living
in
a
world
where
we
have
to
social
distance.
We
can't
get
together
in
person
and
things
like
coffee
with
a
cop,
and
so
our
community
outreach
teams
under
the
leadership
of
Captain
Thompson,
have
been
very
creative
in
their
efforts
to
overcome
this
and
they've
they've
done
all
kinds
of
neat
things
to
figure
out
how
to
get
out
there
and
do
that
engagement
through
video
or
just
physical
distance
in
a
safe
way.
N
There
are
a
lot
of
businesses
out
there
that
have
been
working
for
a
long
time
to
improve
the
trust
and
loyalty
with
their
customers
and
to
get
better
feedback
not
just
from
their
customers
but
from
their
employees
to
inspire
innovation,
and
so
hopefully,
we'll
have
some
things
in
place
to
give
captain
Thompson
some
better
tools
to
do
that
outreach,
and
so
then
the
pandemic
impact
on
the
auto
progress.
You
know,
folks
in
the
community
have
been
refocused
on
taking
care
of
their
families
and
homeschooling.
Our
calls
and
and
and
crimes
have
have
declined
slightly.
N
Since
all
this
started
and
our
Police
Department
has
had
to
make
a
lot
of
adjustments
and
staffing
training,
doing
remote
training
acquiring
PPE
for
our
officers
and
meeting
the
community's
needs,
and
so
we've
you
know
chief,
will
tell
you.
We
never
stopped
working
through
the
whole
pandemic
and
that's
absolutely
correct,
but
it
has
posed
some
challenges
and
making
progress
on
on
the
audit,
so
we
were
working
through
it
and
it's
definitely
giving
us
opportunities
to
look
at
the
way.
We
think
the
way
we
do
things
and
improve
those.
N
So
part
of
this
is
to
take
the
audit.
The
audit
gave
us
some
good
specific
recommendations,
but
we
also
wanted
to
basically
create
a
roadmap
for
the
next
five
years
and
we
work
with
the
College
of
Charleston
to
put
together
a
strategic
leadership
plan,
and
this
was
done
collaboratively
with
every
leader
in
every
division
of
the
department
and
many
of
the
the
recommendations
and
objectives
from
the
racial
bias.
N
Audit
and
the
illumination
project
are
rolled
in
to
the
strategic
plan
and
so
we're
just
at
a
stage
where
we're
pushing
this
out
internally
and
we're
being
very
careful
and
thoughtful
about
how
we
communicate
this
plan
to
our
officers
and
our
supervisors,
because
we
didn't
just
want
to
send
this
out
in
an
email
and
expect
people
to
read
it
and
believe
in
it.
And
so
we've
made
some
videos
and
we've
create
some
infographs
we're
working
on
to
communicate
to
our
officers
that
we're
all
committed
to
this
plan.
B
J
B
F
K
B
E
O
B
N
N
N
You
know
there's
a
better
chance
that
it's
a
familiar
face
and
that's
somebody
before
and
in
that
it's
that's
a
contributing
factor
not
only
to
you
know,
trust
in
the
police,
but
just
general
resiliency
in
communities
and
I've
done.
A
lot
of
work
to
study,
resiliency
and
I've
talked
to
a
lot
of
professors
who
specialized
this
and
probably
one
of
the
most
useful
pieces
of
information.
A
professor
gave
me
on
the
subjective.
Resiliency
in
communities
is
what
really
matters
is
how
well
do
you
know
your
barista?
How
well
do
you
know
your
mailman?
N
How
well
do
you
know
the
people
who
live
and
work
in
your
community
so
that
when
you
move
around
your
world
and
your
day-to-day
interactions,
you're
you're
truly
living
in
it
in
a
place
of
neighbors
of
friends
of
people
who
know
and
trust
each
other
and
not
strangers,
and
I.
Think
that
that's
that's
one
of
the
most
important
things
we
can
do
and
under
the
circumstances
with
the
pandemic.
N
Yes,
we're
having
a
lot
less
contact
with
each
other
and
when
we
do
have
contact
with
each
other,
our
faces
are
covered
right,
and
so
so
it's
going
to
be
challenging
and
we
have
to
work
harder
to
figure
out
other
ways
to
interact
with
each
other
in
digital
spaces,
to
continue
building
those
relationships,
and
so
I
like
what
our
community
engagement
team
is
doing.
They've
done
some
really
fantastic
stuff,
and
hopefully
we
can
give
them
more
tools
to
keep
doing
more.
In.
B
F
B
Thank
you.
Let's
see
if
and
I'm
going
to
cut,
Bob
I
see
your
your
next
question
too.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
trying
to
get
you
the
crux
of
the
matter,
which
is
the
relationship
between
the
police
department
and
the
citizens
and,
of
course,
that
that
concern
has
heightened
because
of
recent
activities
that
have
gone
on
all
over
the
United
States,
as
well
as
what
we
know
of
that's
happened
in
Prior
times
here
in
Charleston
itself.
So
when
we
get
further
down
until
the
agenda,
we
will
probably
have
little
more
in-depth
discussion.
N
B
H
Just
a
question
regarding
well
most
of
a
comment
regarding
community
outreach
on
and
I
know,
that's
a
common
phrase
or
term
or
or
activity
that
the
police
department
want
to
engage
in.
One
of
the
things
I
was
looking
at
on
the
website
regarding
internships
and
I.
Think
that
internships
are
a
wonderful
opportunity
to
you
know
to
bring
diversity
into
the
police
department.
H
You
might
have
to
look
at
a
little
differently
than
they
have
before
from
what
I've
read
is
like
you
know,
they've
had
students
from
Clemson
the
College
of
Charleston
and
the
Citadel
to
come
in,
but
reaching
out
to
you
know,
specie
use
and
inviting
students.
You
know
and
you
to
come
in
and
be
a
part
of
an
internship
program,
maybe
even
offer
a
monetary
incentive,
because
many
of
those
students
just
can't
volunteer
their
time
to
be
an
intern.
They
need
to
be
compensated
for
it.
So
that
would
be
an
excellent
opportunity
to.
H
You
know:
build
an
interest
in
the
police
department
for
young
people
to
get
to
know.
You
know
what
goes
on
regarding
being
a
police
officer,
just
not
observing,
what's
going
on,
but
actually
having
a
hands-on
and
going
back
and
sharing
that
information
with
their
peers.
So,
instead
of
going
out
in
the
community,
maybe
bring
in
folks
into
the
police
departments,
Doris.
D
F
F
G
G
N
So
I
can
give
an
example
or
a
couple
of
examples.
So
2.1
recommends
that
cpp
should
establish
a
strategic
plan
for
the
traffic
unit
so
that
that
plan
has
then
created
under
captain
Thompson's
leadership
and
then
another
example
would
be
the
recommendations
in
thirteen
point,
two
and
fourteen
point,
one
which
are
the
requirement
that
supervisors
review
body,
worn
camera,
video
footage
for
all
use
of
force
incidents
and
then
also
the
establishment
of
a
formal
compliance
and
auditing
process
to
ensure
that
officers
comply
with
the
BWC
policy.
N
And
so
those
both
of
those
measures
were
included
in
a
body.
Camera
policy
that
was
revised
on
April
17th
of
2020,
and
so
there
there's
a
requirement
in
that
policy
for
supervisors,
not
only
to
review
that
video
when
they
investigate
a
use
of
force
incident,
but
they
also
have
an
auditing
process
and
so
they're
they're,
randomly
selecting
and
viewing
body
camera
video
to
make
sure
that
our
officers
are
in
compliance
with
all
of
our
policies.
N
N
The
retention
period
for
buying
on
camera
video
to
400
days,
which
is
more
than
twice
the
length
of
time,
that
the
aclu
recommends
to
keep
body
camera
video,
and
that's
so
that
if
a
citizen
comes
and
makes
a
complaint
about
an
incident
that
happens,
there's
a
greater
likelihood
that
that
video
will
still
exist
in
the
system
for
a
longer
period
of
time,
and
so
that
gives
us
greater
accountability
and
transparency.
That's
that's
already.
That's
been
done,
and
not
only
did
we
increase
the
retention
period
dramatically.
We
went
twice
twice
what
the
ACLU
was
recommending.
N
F
P
O
Called
the
trial
fit
and
the
idea
was
what
we're
doing.
Obviously,
external
look
before
we
develop
a
plan.
We
want
to
bring
the
community
all
together
and
hit
different
parts
of
the
city,
have
a
review
plan
with
us
to
actually
get
it
before
it
got
published.
However,
with
the
pandemic,
this
was
back
in
Amar's,
where
it
would
just
pretty
much
shut
down
business,
isn't
everything
we
were
unable
to
do
that,
so
we
were
too
crossroads
of.
O
Do
we
publish
the
plan
or
we
wait
until
the
pandemic
is
over
with
and
if
we
wait
slip
and
end
and
because,
over
with
your
plan,
how
long
will
that
be?
And
when
you
look
at
the
CDC
recommend
a
and
with
the
governor's
order
for
for
meeting
and
the
guidance
coming
to
meet
together
and
hi?
Can
you
then,
dr.
banner?
We
thought
it
was
best
to
move
forward
with
the
plan,
and
then
you
know,
even
though
it
is
published,
if
there
any
comments,
we'd
be
happy
to
add
to
that,
because
it's
a
living
document.
O
It
is
almost
like
our
policy
in
it.
You
know
we
started
BWC
policy.
We
thought
it
was
good.
However,
if
we've
signs
of
something
else,
I
need
to
be
changing
it
and
we'll
always
have
to
so
we
wanted
to
have
to
hey
there
but
endemic
and
it
being
shut
down
just
get
it
done.
We
don't
want
to
wait
any
longer
so
plan
as
our
old
one
expired,
December
31st
of
2019,
so.
P
P
Advisory
Committee,
you
might
advise
of
the
Advisory
Committee
in
that
process
or
consulted
with
them.
I
know
their
general
organizations
would
have
been
able
to.
You
know,
look
at
the
document
make
a
comment
and
I
think
I'm
concerned
from
what
I'm
hearing
and
community
engagement
your
metric
right
is
how
many
times
we
talk
to
folks
in
the
neighborhood,
all
right,
I
don't
hear,
maybe
in
other
locations
where
folks
have
been
changing
policies
right,
use
of
force,
storage
and
things
of
that
nature
maybe
provide
an
opportunity
for
some
group
of
people
right.
P
It
never
is
enough
right
there,
somebody's
always
going
to
criticize
me
I,
didn't
know,
but
some
folks
to
be
involved
in
review
of
the
policy
and
policies
and
the
assumption
about
who
is
content
area
experts
I
think
in
this
moment,
right
now
in
the
me
to
black
lives
matter
right.
The
definition
who
might
be
a
Content
expert
needs
to
be
needs
to
be
examined
and
challenged
to
see
if
we're
comfortable
with
that
as
we
move
through.
P
So,
just
if
I
look
at
what
we
say,
we
want
to
do
in
terms
of
community
engagement,
one
of
the
major
documents
driving
that
old,
instituting
plan
and
the
community
hasn't
had
a
role
in
it.
Okay,
and
if
we
want
to
show
a
different
relationship,
we
should
probably
start
it's
unfinished
all
right,
so
I'm
and.
E
E
That
I
agree
with
what
you
said
appreciate
what
you
said
and
I
think
that
as
we
move
forward,
what
I
would
describe
this
process
is
going
from
listening
sessions
to
work
sections
and
so
we're
listening
and
working
now
and
we're.
We
have
to
get
that
input
in
order
to
have
a
good
product,
so
you're
right,
I
couldn't
agree
more.
We
have
to
engage
more
as
we
continue
to
kind
of
I
describe
this
a
lot.
E
If
we
do
it
right,
as
we
become
a
learning
organization,
you've
heard
me
say
this
before:
I
really
believe
that,
and
that
is
that
you're
constantly
seeking
input,
we're
constantly
seeking
feedback
and
we're
constantly
it's
an
iterative
process,
and
so
we've
got
to
start
somewhere.
I
think
we
gotta
keep
moving
the
ball.
We've
kind
of
said
that
we
needed
to
do
that.
We
committed
to
that.
E
You
are
doing
that,
but
we
can't
do
it
in
your
pendant
of
the
communities
that
we
serve
that
are
affected
by
everything
that
we
do
so
we
have
to
get
in.
This
is
gonna
have
to
change
based
on
that
and,
as
we
identify
one
of
these
many
areas,
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
more
important
than
community
engaged
like
we
talked
about
building
trust.
How
do
we
do
that?
It's
easier
said
than
done,
and
so
the
communities
that
have
the
least
amount
of
trust
for
us
and
specifically
the
african-american
needs.
E
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
now,
based
on
what
happened
in
Minneapolis,
based
on
what
happened
in
Georgia.
Maybe
someone's
happening
around
our
country
based
on
a
lot
of
different
things
with
their
history
right
here,
locally
and
regionally
and
nationally.
We've
got
to
negating
that
visible
conversation.
So
if
we
think
we
know
how
to
do
it,
that's
a
great
start,
but
that's
not
where
we
end.
We
have
to
listen
to
the
people
that
were
serving,
and
so
the
fact
that
you
have
an
almost
full
committee.
E
P
There's
a
reckoning
for
madam
chair
is
whether
or
not
a
policy
procedure
review
subcommittee,
yes,
okay
or
of
the
body
right
becomes
useful
useful
for
me
yeah,
just
as
an
example
about
how
we
think
about
what
this
committee
does,
because
no
I
believe
is
a
conversation
during
the
audit
as
an
involved.
It
was
unclear
by
what
relationship
seatback
had
to
the
audit,
what
responsibility
and
accountability
back,
and
we
should
try
and
be
clear
if
it
could
be
helpful,
and
hopefully
you
accomplished
children,
work.
B
E
B
B
N
N
B
F
B
No
I
don't
right
now:
okay,
okay,
thank
you
after
I've
listened
to
all
the
other
questions.
I
do
have
one
question
dealing
with
the
audit.
I
didn't
hear
much
discussion
in
depth.
Discussion
about
cultural
diversity,
awareness
and
education
with
the
police
officers
is
that
going.
Is
that
going
to
be
captured
under
one
of
the
other
items
that
we're
talking
about.
N
K
B
N
And
that'll
be
that'll,
be
part
of
the
tree
and
there
is
some
training
scheduled
coming
up
next
month,
but
you
know
it's
I've
been
taking
cultural
diversity
and
implicit
bias
classes
for
many
years,
and
you
know
not
not
all
training
there.
You
know
not.
All
training
is
necessarily
going
to
make
a
difference
in
how
we
do
business.
So
you
know
back
to
that
making
sure
that
that
our
outcomes
are
actually
delivering
on
our
promises.
We're
looking
at
training
that
that
may
be
able
to
demonstrate
that.
N
B
But
if
you
would
look
to
see,
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
socially
distance
and
meet
somewhere
in
the
community
as
well
and
I,
know,
that's
a
that's,
will
probably
be
a
bit
challenging
with
with
the
current
guidelines
that
we
have,
but
captain
Thompson.
If
you
could
consider
that
and
let
us
know
under
counsel
any
success
that
you'll
have
in
finding
locate
other
locations
that
put
us
out
in
the
community.
B
E
To
know
that
I
schools
hired
as
an
intern
I
was
actually
a
paid
intern
when
I
started
right
out
of
college
and
I've
been
without
any
Brigid
service
ever
since
in
1988
and
I
think
internships
are
a
great
way
of
getting
people,
diversity
and
a
whole
variety
of
other
things.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
thanks
for
that
comment.
So
the
the
Coban
I'm
gonna
everybody's,
aware
of
the
tremendous
impact
that's
had
on
our
city.
E
It's
crushing
the
business
community.
It's
had
a
huge
impact
on
on
so
many
different
things,
but
I'll
stick
with
the
police
department.
We
immediately
did
research
and
have
been
in
contact
with
other
agencies
that
got
hit
a
lot
worse
than
South
Carolina
I
have
counterparts
in
New,
York,
City,
I
have
counterparts
out
west
and
so
I
was
able
to
learn
from
many
of
those
people
about
the
seriousness
of
the
Kubik,
about
the
steps
that
could
be
taken
to
protect
our
officers
and
stay
in
in
service.
E
If
you
will
New
York
City
as
I'm
sure
you're
aware
really
just
got
crushed
by
the
kovat,
they
had
a
lot
of
guests
on
their
police
department.
They
had
huge
numbers
of
people
that
were
out
because
of
the
code
illness
because
of
quarantine
isolation
at
a
time
when
the
city
was
really
getting
hit
hard.
So
we
we
had
a
lot
of
conference
calls.
We
learn
from
them,
I
think
very
early
on.
E
We
developed
a
protocol
within
our
Police
Department,
with
sanitation,
with
the
wearing
of
masks,
with
how
I
respond
to
calls
for
service
handling,
calls
remotely
a
limiting
our
public
contact
and
taking
calls
over
the
telephone
and
there's
a
whole
lot
of
different
ways
that
we
staff
we
were
able
to
do
teleworking
from
musicians,
we're
all
doing
a/b
shifts
where
some
people
somebody
got
the
virus.
They
wouldn't
infect
everybody
else,
so
they
worked
opposite
hours
and
opposite
days.
E
There's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
did
I
will
tell
you,
and
I
was
just
looking
at
our
numbers.
We
had
three
cases
over
several
months
of
positive
code.
In
the
last
week
to
ten
days,
we've
had
an
additional
11
positive
cases,
so
we
have
a
total
of
a
14
at
our
police
department.
People
mostly
sworn
officers
a
couple
of
civilian
employees
and
we
have
a
central
point
of
contact
in
our
department
of
lieutenant
who
works
closely
with
MUSC.
I
E
The
HR
for
the
city
and
our
safety
and
wellness
officer,
so
if
somebody
is
not
sure-
and
they
have
a
question
they
can
go
to
that
person
and
they
can
have
total
confidentiality
and
they
get
quick
testing.
Public
Safety
has
been
given
the
priority
and
they
get
quick
results
and
there's
a
lot
of
contact,
tracing
and
investigation
that
goes
into
one.
E
Somebody
test
positive
I,
believe
that
we've
done
well,
but
I'll
tell
you
in
the
last
week
or
two
and
I'll
attributed
to
a
variety
of
things,
with
the
riots
of
protests
and
a
variety
of
other
various
contacts
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
our
young
people,
who
really
don't
have
a
lot
of
concern
about
illness,
are
probably
becoming
a
little
bit
more
relaxed
baby
and
their
private
lives
and,
as
a
result,
I
think.
E
That's
a
part
of
why
we
have
like
the
restaurant
and
food
and
beverage
industries
also
has
spiked
so
we're
watching
it
very
closely.
We
have
I,
when
you
mentioned
this
I
like
to
say
it:
the
police
have
never
slowed
down
while
the
businesses
have
closed.
While
many
of
the
government
entities
of
clothes
or
teleworking,
we.
E
Are
our
men
and
women
actually
have
not
been
on
vacation?
They
haven't
been.
Many
of
them
have
not
been
taken
leave
because,
obviously
anywhere
they
would
go.
Most
places
are
closed
or
there's
limitations
on
what
they
do
and
we
need
them.
So
our
schools,
because
they
are
closed
and
other
entities,
actually
gave
us
additional
resources
during
this
period,
which
has
helped
us
to
be
out
and
being
able
to
do
a
lot
of
other
things
because
of
the.
E
But
it's
interesting
time
for
us
in
that
some
people
have
family
members
that
are
compromised
with
their
health.
Some
of
our
employees
have
compromised
conditions,
so
we've
done
a
lot
to
accommodate
them
and
have
an
alternative
or
cassavetes
so
they're,
not
on
the
frontlines
they're,
not
unnecessarily
exposed
they're,
not
in
a
position
when
they're
going
to
pre
harm
to
their
own
families.
It's
taken
a
lot
of
work,
I
feel
like
we've
done
a
decent
job.
What
am
I
my
philosophies
is
the
opposite
of
fear
is
good
communication
and
good
knowledge
and
and
and
good
information.
E
So
we
constantly
talk.
I'll
do
conference
calls
with
families
every
couple
of
weeks,
we'll
talk
to
families
and
we've
done
videos
we've
done
updates
so
that
people
feel
comfortable.
Ask
questions
to
get
the
right
information.
We've
done
a
lot
to
everybody,
the
ranking,
keeping
me
the
right
equipment.
We
do
temperature
checks,
we've
been
doing
that
since
the
very
beginning
and
a
lot
of
these
cases,
work
were
identified
early
on
without
any
spread,
because
people
filed
the
protocol.
They
they
did
the
temperature
check.
Maybe
they
are
hot
at
home,
so
they
didn't
come
into
work.
E
Then
what
got
tested
and
and
if
they
had
a
positive
test,
they
stayed
home.
So
we
were
able
to
limit
any
kind
of
exposure
and
that's
probably
enough
uncovered
anybody's
got
additional
questions.
It's
been
difficult
doing
so
many
meetings
by
zoom
I'm,
not
I'm,
a
people
person
our
community
meetings,
a
lot
of
them
cancelled.
We
cancel
the
bridge,
run,
cancel
split
out:
we've
canceled,
the
river
dogs
is
probably
going
to
get
their
season
cancelled,
there's
so
many
different
things
that
we
do
in
this
city
and
all
those
things
have
been
canceled.
E
B
Well,
chief
I
do
want
to
interject
before
you
move
to
the
next
item.
The
fact
that
we
do
appreciate
captain
Thompson
working
with
our
Steve
and
Bethany
and
Jennifer
to
get
it
arranged
so
that
we
can
have
this
meeting
tonight
by
zoom,
as
well
as
open
opportunity
for
community
to
participate.
I
understand
that
the
actual
participation
by
other
community
members
who
are
not
actually
members
of
the
council
is
a
bit
challenged
for
tonight
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
work
towards
getting
that
improved
to
have
to
allow
more
community
participation
during
the
the
next
meeting.
B
D
D
B
E
Before
the
protest
before
the
rights
before
any
of
those
things
here,
I
made
a
statement,
a
very
public,
very
declarative
statement
about
my
disdain,
for
what
happened
in
Minneapolis
I
feel
like
I,
was
very
clear
about
that.
We
would
never
tolerate
such
a
behavior.
Here
and
again.
This
was
before
there
was
a
lot
of
attention
before
there
was
a
protest
or
riot
or
any
of
the
things
that
occurred
here.
We
even
in
my
30-year
career
plus
30
years
even
30
years
ago.
E
We
didn't
have
the
policies
we
didn't,
have
the
training
we
didn't
have
the
equipment.
We
didn't
have
all
the
things
that
we
have
today.
You
have
come
a
long
ways.
We
have
a
long
ways
to
go.
I
would
never
tolerate
what
occurred
in
Minneapolis
with
mr.
Floyd's
death.
He
was
murdered
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
From
what
I
could
see.
E
K
E
Too
different
than
the
one
I'm
wearing
right
now
put
his
knee
on
his
neck
and
he
had
it
on
his
neck
for
almost
nine
minutes
and
ultimately,
I
think.
What
we
now
know
is
that
caused
his
death
and
so
I
cannot
say.
I've
ever
seen.
Anything
like
that
in
my
lifetime,
I've
seen
a
lot
of
bad
things.
I've,
never
seen
anything
that
bad
and
now
our
entire
nation,
our
entire
world,
has
seen
at
the
hands
of
a
white
officer
a
young
african-american
man,
mr.
E
What
happened
in
Minneapolis
is
gonna
affect
us
here
for
years
to
come.
It's
affected
our
city,
it's
affected
our
profession,
it's
affected
our
relationship
with
our
communities
and
there's
a
very
loud
and
clear
voice
that
I've
heard
and
the
black
lives
matter.
Movement
is
and
I'll.
Just
paraphrase
we
want
to
be
heard.
We
won
leadership
to
listen
to
us.
We
want
your
attention
and
whatever
I
is
what
I've
said
to
my
friends:
the
people
that
I've
talked
to
that
I
respect
and
the
PLM
movement.
E
Is
you
have
our
attention
we
are
listening
and
I
will
tell
you
I
believe
over
the
last
two
years
and
moving
before
with
this
audit
that
we
are
focused
on
reform.
We
are
focused
on
justice
and
accountability.
We
are
focused
on
transparency
and
change,
I
believe
in
that
I'm
motivated
in
that
way,
I'm
passionate
about
that's
what
this
movement
I.
Think,
if
you,
if
you
listen
I've
been
trying
to
listen,
is
all
about
and
anybody
who
doesn't
raise
their
hand
and
and
and
and
you
stand
up
against
things
like
this-
there's
something
wrong
with
them.
E
We
have
to
stand
up
and
we
have
to
be
productive
and,
at
some
point,
I
hope
that
we
can
unite
and
that
we
can
focus
on
the
change
that
is
needed,
and
then
we
can
accomplish
something
really
meaningful.
Have
all
of
this
I'll
talk
briefly
about
the
riot
on
the
30th
and
then
on
the
Sunday
the
next
day,
the
arrested
that
had
been
talked
about
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
great
detail.
We
talked
about
this
for
hours.
There's
a
I.
Think
one
of
the
comments
talked
about
releasing
the
additional
audio
that
exists.
E
E
The
actual
operations
of
the
police
at
night
and
that
will
be
released
in
the
next
day
or
so
so
you'll
get
to
hear
that
and
for
whoever
was
asking
for
that.
That
is
going
to
be
released.
There
was
a
boy
that
was
done
and
as
a
result
of
that,
FOIA
those
those
recordings
will
be
released.
There's
a
Public
Safety
Committee
hearing
tomorrow
at
4:30,
and
some
of
this
will
be
discussed
in
that
hearing
and
those
tapes
will
be
released,
probably
at
the
end
of
the
day
tomorrow
and.
B
E
You
there's
a
whole
lot
of
things
going
on
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
need
to
be
paying
attention
to,
and
so
I
say
that
in
the
context
of
these
recordings,
because
when
you
release
the
recording,
it
has
to
be
reviewed
to
make
sure
that
you're
not
releasing
information
that
it
is
private
confidential.
And
if
there
is
things
in
there
it
could
be
our
undercover
officers.
E
It
could
be
operational
tactics,
it
could
be
specific
names
and
information
about
people
that
has
to
be
reviewed,
and
that
takes
a
long
time
to
review
that
and
into
some
cases
there
has
to
be
redaction
and
other
things
that
occur.
We've
had
so
many
things
going
on
that
we
have
not
had
time
to
do
all
of
that.
At
this
point,
we're
ready
to
do
a
release
and
that'll
occur
and
and
there's
nothing,
nothing
that
we
have
to
hide.
There's
nothing
in
any
of
this.
E
That
is
particularly
revealing
and
this
information
will
go
out,
but
it
takes
time
and
do
those
reviews
so
to
the
right
on
the
Saturday
night
or
the
night
of
the
30th.
There
was
a
very
violent
riot
that
occurred
following
what
I'll
describe
as
a
mostly
peaceful
protest.
There
was
a
protest
that
began
on
Saturday
at
2
o'clock,
Marion
Square
at
Calhoun
and
King
Street,
and
it
grew
in
size.
We
did
not
have
any
intelligence
or
any
information
to
indicate
that
we
would
have
a
crowd
anywhere
near
the
sides
that
ended
up
showing
up.
E
It's
been
described
as
as
many
as
a
couple
thousand
people
and
they
marched
for
several
hours
and
ultimately,
that
crowd
dispersed.
Most
of
that
crowd
was
first
and
there
was
a
rainstorm
and
there
was
a
kind
of
a
violent,
thunderstorm
and
lightning,
and
many
of
the
people
that
were
in
that
crowd,
left
and
went
home.
There
was
other
people
who
arrived
and
joined
another
group
after
dark
and
also
late.
It
was
a
very
difficult
night.
In
Charleston
there
was
people
who
were
injured.
E
E
Owners
who,
frankly,
I'm
not
sure
if
they'll
ever
be
able
to
open
up
again
because
they
were
devastated,
they
were
assaulted,
their
businesses,
not
only
were
there
glass
and
their
shops
broken.
There
was
people
that
were
carrying
guns
in
this
crowd.
They
were
assaulted,
they've
started
fires
and
they
burned
a
police
vehicle.
E
They
smashed
out
windows
and
they
did
all
kinds
of
things
which
we
don't
even
have
time
to
get
into
tonight
that
lasted
until
the
early
morning
hours
morning,
and
we
were
able
to,
thankfully
put
out
all
the
fires
and
in
the
end
there
was
not
serious
injuries
or
deaths
that
occurred.
The
very
next
day
there
was
additional
protests.
They
were
not
all
pleased
peaceful.
E
There
were
people
in
those
protests
that
were
throwing
bottles
and
other
objects
and
assaulting
people.
There
were
warnings
who
did
close
Marion
Square
at
one
point,
and
there
were
approximately
40
people
that
were
arrested
in
that
process.
Nobody
was
brutalized,
I,
think
that
was
one
of
the
comments
that
came
out
tonight
and
as
a
segue
into
this
meeting,
I'm,
not
aware
that
anybody
was
brutalized
that
somebody's
aware
of
that
I'd
like
to
know
about
it
and
will
investigate
any
and
all
complaints
to
that
effect.
E
So
there
was
a
another
long
day
on
Sunday
and
I
can
tell
you.
It
has
an
ending.
It's
been
over
a
month
now
we're
almost
into
July
that
was
May,
30th
and
and
I
got
to
tell
you.
It
is
a
very
high
paced
tempo,
because
if
each
time
there
is
a
protest
each
time
there's
a
an
event,
it's
something
that
we
have
to
adequately
staff
among
those
that
we
brought
into
the
city
to
try
to
protect.
E
The
city
has
been
all
of
our
partnering
agencies:
Baltimore,
the
Berkeley
County
Sheriff's
Office,
the
Charleston
County
Sheriff's
Office
Goose
Creek
Mount
Pleasant
police
department,
the
were
Charleston
Police,
Department
and
and
many
others
I'm
sure
I'm
leaving
some
out.
Sled
has
been
a
big
part
that
the
National,
Guard
and
other
entities
have
been
brought
in
to
try
to
bring
calm
into
the
city
into
these
event
and
to
keep
our
city's
sake.
It's
been
very
difficult
time
for
our
city.
E
We
have
a
job
to
protect
peaceful
protesters,
I'm
very
passionate
about
allowing
people
to
voice
their
opinion,
their
First
Amendment
rights
by
law.
They
have
the
right
to
speak
and
be
heard
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
have
a
lot
to
say
and
they
want
to
be
heard
and
it's
our
job
to
protect
them
and
to
allow
them
to
be
an
earth.
But
what
I've
emphasized
it's
important
that
people
do
that
responsibly?
Do
it
peacefully
and
do
it
in
a
way
that
is
within
the
confines
of
the
law?
E
Committed
to
violent
acts
and
criminal
acts
to
destroy
our
city
among
those
are
felony
charges
for
inciting
a
riot
for
arson
and
variety
of
other
things.
Destruction
of
property,
assault
on
a
police
officer,
honors
and
merchants,
and
I
will
tell
you
as
a
follow-up
to
that.
We've
worked
with
the
FBI
with
the
ATF
we've
worked
with
our
partnering
agencies
and
we've
arrested,
I
think
23
out
of
his
Lane
six
people
that
we
have
warrants
and
several
of
those
are
probably
going
to
get
federally
charged
and
go
to
prison
for
a
significant
amount
of
time.
E
So
we
have,
on
the
one
hand,
the
the
responsibility
to
protect
people's
rights,
to
speak,
to
be
heard,
which
frankly,
I
agree
with
most
of
the
messaging
I,
actually
agree
with
the
majority
of
what
blight
five
five
matters
stands
for,
and
what
they're
trying
to
accomplish.
I
think
that's
consistent
with
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
our
audit
and
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we're
trying
to
accomplish
and
then
on
the
other
hand,
we
have
an
obligation
to
protect
our
city
from
violence
from
assault
from
burning
the
city
down.
E
B
I
E
I
actually
had
great
respect
for
people
who
I
have
met,
who
are
part
of
the
movement
called
the
movement,
the
black
lives
matter.
Movement
I
actually
agree
with
the
majority
of
what
they're
trying
to
accomplish
and
have
a
cry
out
for
justice.
I,
don't
cry
out
for
accountability
and
policing
have
a
cry
out
for
reform
and
change
in
transparency
and
so
and
if
I
said
that
I
did
not
mean
to
I'm
glad
to
be
corrected.
Me
cuz,
I,
agree
with
you.
100%
there
was
a
separate
element.
E
K
E
E
B
E
And
I
actually
glad
you
asked
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
information
that
has
been
circulated,
dismaying
I
think
in
some
cases
80
different
tenants
and
among
those
and
chokeholds
and
and
the
neon
the
negative
and
ironically,
what
I
say
to
people.
We
want
to
go
way
beyond
that.
That's
very,
very,
as
she
said
earlier:
low-hanging,
fruit,
we've
already
done
them
and
we're
not
interested
in
press
releases
or
photo
ops
or
say:
hey
we've,
a
nacho
cult.
Look
at
us!
E
E
B
B
I
know
the
audit
picked
up
on
the
fact
that
there
have
been
traffic
stops,
just
stopping
a
person
about
a
light
is
out
or
the
the
light
over
the
license
plate
is
out.
One
of
the
comments
that
was
submitted
for
tonight
address
that
stating
one
of
the
folks
say
that
one
of
the
community
members,
not
on
the
council,
but
a
community
resident,
stated
that
they've
been
stopped
a
number
of
times
and
I
know
that
came
up
during
the
audit.
Has
anything
been
done
to
reevaluate
reassess
with
the
police
officers.
E
D
Briefly,
one
thing
that
we
do
get
is
a
we
I
think
is
every
other
week
we
get
a
report
from
our
analysts
to
show
the
number
of
tickets
for
the
red
Nonis
traffic
stop
for
each
officer,
so
one
of
the
complaints
was
just
for
the
traffic
stop,
so
that's
being
monitored
on
an
officer
by
Officer
basis.
Another
good
idea.
The
second
part
of
that
is
that
the
Traffic
Division
in
the
traffic
commander
now
gets
a
report
from
our
analyst
as
well
to
not
just
write
random
ticket
to
different
areas
of
the
city.
D
So
all
of
us
that
have
lived
here
for
for
20
or
30
years
know
the
areas
that
you're
going
to
get
a
ticket
in.
Well,
that's
not
reducing
collisions,
that's
not
reducing
deaths,
that's
not
really
reducing
duis
when
you
get
a
ticket
coming
across
the
asset
of
a
bridge,
for
example,
so
traffic
commanders
getting
a
monthly
report
for
hot
spot
collision
mapping,
etc.
One
good
idea
that
came
out
at
the
end
of
last
year
and
covetous
slows
down
is
one
of
our
off.
We
put
it
out
to
our
officers
for
good
ideas
coming
forward.
D
So
one
thing
to
come
to
resolve
they
in
the
traffic
light
that
the
brake
lights
always
out
on
on
your
car
or
the
tag
lights
out
or
those
specific
things
he's
presented
a
pilot
project
that
we
actually
assist
that
person
if
we
pull
them
over
for
that
violation,
and
we
assist
that
person
we
get
in
that
correction
made
so
then,
and
that's
going
to
be
part
of
a
community
outreach.
So
that's
one
thing:
that's
positive!
That's
come
out
of
it,
but
the
courts
have
been
closed
for
three
months,
so
that
has
slowed
to
a
crawl.
D
But
we
do
have
a
basic
plan
in
place
and
presentation
ready
to
give
to
the
courts,
but
it
would
be
cut.
It'll,
be
a
diversion
plan
and
the
officer
put
in
is
in
his
write
up
the
specific
example
that
the
person
gets
keeps
getting
pulled
over
for
the
same
tag,
light
out
over
and
over
and
over
again
and
never
gets
it
fixed.
E
E
K
E
E
We
also
have
a
different,
and
when
you
touched
on
this,
we
have
cameras
and
the
audit
process
and
their
review
process.
So
if
you
were
to
complain,
for
example,
one
we're
trying
to
do
better
with
complaint,
we
want
more
complaints,
so
we
haven't
worn
a
feedback
about
what
we're
doing,
how
we're
doing.
Why
were
doing
it
and
then
reviewing
that
footage
and
actually
being
more
proactive
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
what
we
should
be
doing
and
with
the
new
leadership
and
a
new
strategic
plan
for
the
Traffic
Division.
It's
a
completely
different
focus.
E
B
J
K
J
Say
is
maybe
a
communication
process
like
we
would
have
a
police
blotter
and
not
identifying
name's
Judy.
You
can't
do
that.
That's
their
HR
type
issues,
but
almost
have
a
periodic
misconduct
report,
so
they
the
public,
will
see
without
it
being
forced
on
to
you
they're,
seeing
the
results
of
your
own
actions.
J
You
know:
hey
we've
had
10
complaints,
we've
had
four
reprimand,
whatever
it
is,
I'm
just
doing
a
very
high
level,
so
that
you're
communicating
it
out
yourself,
rather
than
always
a
response
to
a
demand
for
information
that
people
feel
like
they're
pulling
it
from
you,
because
I
think
that
goes
a
long
way
to
the
trust.
So.
J
They
have
privacy,
they're
gonna,
do
process,
but
the
same
thing
that
we
do
to
even
suspects
where
you
know
hey
gets
out
there
and
we
announce
a
lot
of
problems
that
happen.
The
same
thing
happened
where
you're
starting
to
say:
I'm,
proactively,
going
out
there
and
I'm
identifying
we're
a
police,
Samara
and
here's
an
indication
of
how
we're
doing
that.
Obviously,
without
doing.
E
So
two
things
you
touched
on,
which
is
a
best
practice.
This
touches
on
transparency,
accountability
and
it
contributes
towards
public
trust
and
it
is
addressed
in
the
audit
and
we
do
both
of
them.
I'll,
let
honey
hit
on
it
and
and
Mike
you
know
it's
kind
of
helping
out
is
that
we
pushed
all
our
policies,
including
all
of
our
updates
online,
and
we.
E
J
Put
policies,
it's
more
important
to
understand
everybody's
got
policies;
we
all
have
policies
that
Minneapolis
have
Hollis.
Okay.
What
we're
doing
is
we're
saying
here's
the
results
of
the
actions
compared
or
policies
to
show
that
we
didn't
just
do
a
checkbox
to
say:
hey
guys,
got
a
policy,
it's
showing
it.
Not
only
do
we
have
a
policy
here
behind
it,
we're
showing
you
results
as
enforcement
yeah,
because
you
nodded
every
two
three
four
five
years.
It's
not
timely
enough
to
truly
you're,
not
sure
the
end
time,
trust
that
needs
to
be
built.
O
O
Our
complaints
is
majority
of
our
disciplinary
action
comes
from
internal
rather
than
external,
because
we're
doing
the
proactive
work
we're
doing
the
body.
Camera
views
we're
binding
the
problems
before
it
comes
external,
which
we're
happy
to
say
that
we're
doing
that
we
have
our
twenty
nineteen
and
a
year
report
that
I'm
releasing
here
within
the
next
week,
or
so.
O
We
just
got
caught
up
with
confident
and
the
protest
had
been
done
about
a
month
or
two
ago,
but
timeliness
priorities,
but
in
talks
about
using
force
data
who's
using
force,
what
type
of
force
is
being
used?
It
also
goes
into.
Our
administrative
investigation
is
kind
of
a
snapshot
of
how
many
we
have
the
external,
the
end
eternal.
And
what
is
the
outcome
of
those
Alec
whose
investigations,
if
you
will
so.
J
J
And
complained
about
you,
because,
obviously
so
just
got
act
on
that.
It's
when
you
all
police,
each
other
and
say
hey.
That
is
wrong.
Not
only
am
I
telling
you
as
appearance
wrong,
that's
our
first
law.
Hey,
stop
doing
that!
Stops
there
you
continue
to
go.
We
move
it
on
the
chain
of
command.
It's
saying:
how
is
it
chain
of
command
being
reinforced
that
this
behavior
is
incorrect
rather
than
reinforces
blue
wall
and.
O
E
E
After
the
fact
we
were
already
doing
this,
we
have
a
duty
to
intervene
in
our
policy
and
Epica
training
is
something
that
requires,
and
now
is
the
one
Linden
happy
worse
than
almost
as
bad
I
mean
I,
don't
anything
worse
than
what
happened
but
was
you're.
Looking
around
here
like.
Why
is
nobody
doing
anything?
There's
officers
all
over
the
place.
I
couldn't
stand,
watch
that
for
one
second,
and
you
got
four
officers
right
there,
so
we
have
a
duty
to
intervene.
E
We
actually
go
over
those
scenarios
when
we
say
okay,
somebody
does
something
you
can
say
the
light.
They
could
have
saved
a
life
right,
gonna
save
them
like
that
name.
They
didn't
you
can
save
somebody's
career.
They
could
have
done
that.
I
didn't
do
that.
You
got
people
going
to
federal
prison
and
all
convicts
that's
gonna
come
out
of
that
you
could
save
the
the
public
trust.
That's
gone
that
one
out
the
window.
Why?
Because
nobody
did
anything.
E
You
could
think
that
in
so
many
directions
we
don't
have
time
to
get
all
into
happy
training,
but
but
it
is
for
our
BA
and
and
we
go
is
all
scenarios
it's
all
interactive.
Just
like
this.
It's
all
about
peer
pressure
and
well.
If
the
entire
agencies
from
the
top
down
I've
been
in
the
training,
and
we
talked
about
baby,
this
happens.
What
are
you
gonna?
Do
that?
How
do
you
articulate
how
you
do
that?
How
are
you
and
you're
required
to
do
that?
E
O
I
always
have
to
I
also
cook
the
chief
on
this,
but
he
always
goes
to
the
extreme
of
the
worst
of
the
worst.
However,
we
had
an
epic
moment
during
a
protest
to
wear
on.
One
officer
was
in
a
verbal
exchange
with
another
citizen.
There
is
going
back
and
forth
it's
not
as
simple
as
that.
Another
officers
always
going.
She
basically
intervene.
So
it's
not
just
the
most
critical.
It
was
done
to
something
very
base
fun
how
you
talk
to
someone
freedom,
so
it
is
a
full
complement
of
that
bishop.
B
B
O
O
O
As
both
are
new
recruits,
our
police
Corps
that
also
get
go
through
it
in
this
class
focuses
basically
on
the
inputs
Tobias.
Rather
the
explicit
bias,
hoping
that,
if
you
have
any
internal
biases
that
yes,
you
recognize
that
they
can
be
changed
and
we're
hoping
to
see
that
it's
not
just
relating
to
the
officers
us
the
citizens
as
well.
O
That's
a
perception:
does
it
exist
in
different
communities
so
that
every
job
does
one
of
the
things
you
talk
about
the
next
one
is
our
civil
rights
presentation
so
currently
every
department,
every
officer
on
the
department
that
is
dependent
DD,
has
gone
through
that
training.
There's
only
two
police
court
costs
that
haven't
gone
through
the
training
and
I
was
due
to
cope
with
restrictions.
A
once
coded
movie
and
presentable
coming
in
to
us
and
presenting
they're
gonna.
Do
that
that's
right!
O
Talk
about
how
impact
policing
in
this
area
initial
to
where
we
are
a
modern
day
practices.
So
how
do
we
get
to
where
we
are?
This
is
a
great
class
Luis
first
brought
to
us.
We
didn't
know
what
to
expect,
but
it
gives
a
historical
data
because
a
lot
of
the
members
within
the
Charleston
Police
Department
or
not
from
Youngstown
Ohio,
Dustin's,
a
local
but
might
be
different
area
missile,
would.
O
A
quick
snapshot
of
everything
we're
doing
here,
but
once
we
have
to
go
with
restrictions,
will
definitely
open
it
up.
You
guys
wanted
to
participate,
will
encourage
it,
encourage
their
feedback,
and
you
can
actually
be
there
with
the
officers
going
through
this
training
just
to
see
their
perception.
How
are
they
taking
it
and
you
might
be
able
to
learn
something
will
be
able
to
or
something
from
you
up.
O
B
K
B
K
G
First,
the
protest
in
Marion
Square,
you
mentioned
there
open
conversation
with
citizens.
You
want
to
protect
them
in
a
while
there's
an
arrest
that
was
made
that
day
they
got
some
national
attention
of
G
Jordan
who's.
23
years
old.
He
was
detained
and
arrested
in
Marion
Square
on
that
day
and
I.
Just
kind
of
wanted,
maybe
an
explanation
as
far
as
to
what
his
charges
were
and
why
he
was
arrested
that
day
and.
E
So
a
couple
things
one
there
was
more
to
them
than
what
he
was
on
social
media.
There's
a
social
media
version
of
a
lot
of
things
and
people
see,
oh
by
the
way
at
munch,
with
you
Jordan
and
reached
out
to
him
and
I
extremely
extremely
bright
young
man
who
I
hope
that
we
can
work
with
and
is
a
part
of
the
the
black
lives
matter.
Movement
and
is
extremely
committed
to
matings.
Will
change
as
great
questions
about
what
we're
doing
and
how
are
you
doing?
E
Are
we
good
and
really
wants
to
help
create
a
better
city
and
and
and
and
create
more
equity
and
just
better
outcomes?
I'm
just
saying
so.
Amazing
young
man,
along
with
some
other
men
that
I
make
met
during
the
last
month,
who
were
advocating
for
change
in
terms
of
the
the
actual
Marion
Square
that
day
and
what
people
saw.
They
didn't
see
that
there
was
people
throwing
bottles,
and
then
we
had
an
officers
getting
hit
in
the
head
with
bottles
and
other
things
that
were
contemporaneous
right
around
that
same
time
frame.
E
They
NEC
that
we
have
warned
people
that
they
had
to
leave
the
park,
which
is
something
that
is
really
important
for
us
to
do.
At
times.
You
learn
that
we
should.
We
could
have
got
ahead
of
what
happens
Saturday
night.
Maybe
we
wouldn't
have
had
as
bad
an
outcome
right.
So
we
learn
from
that.
We
had
a
different
posture.
We
were
before
it
started,
we're
getting
ahead
of
some
of
the
things
before
they
got
bad
on
Sunday.
E
The
analogy
idea
very
generally
is
even
something
as
simple
as
you
could
go
to
the
McDonald's
tomorrow
and,
and
we
have
people
that
are
protesting,
the
minimum
wage
right.
A
living
wage
people
are
very
passionate
about
that,
and
you
go
to
McDonald's
and
we
can
say:
okay,
you
can't
stand
on
the
sidewalk
in
a
festering
or
radicular
trap.
If
you
do
you're
going
to
be
arrested,
you
like
me-
and
you
are
one
of
the
nicest
guys
I
know
but
you're
still
getting
arrested.
E
G
E
Number
one
thing:
it's
never
been
a
more
difficult
time
in
policing,
wherever
I've
called
the
captor
they're
completely
emotionally
broken
I've
taught
the
people
who
great
leaders
who
know
no
longer
cops
anymore
and
chiefs,
they're,
no
longer
chief
sheriffs
and
then
longer
Sheriff
I.
Could
people
I
personally
know
around
the
country
my
mentor
yesterday
morning
for
about
an
hour,
it's
a
major
city
chief
for
20
years,
and
he
said,
he's
never
seen
anything
like
this
before
and
it
was
very
encouraging
talking
to
him,
because
our
communities
need
us
to
know
that.
E
E
What
happened
in
Minneapolis
has
and
rightfully
so
has
an
effect
on
the
rest
of
the
nation.
Whether
we
like
it
or
not,
people
are
angry
because
that
didn't
happen
here,
but
other
things
have
happened
here.
People
have
been
impacted
here
by
racism
by
over
representation
and
the
criminal
justice
system,
by
not
having
good
schools
by
getting
disproportionately
impacted
by
flooding.
Why
not?
E
Having
a
good
transportation
I
could
go
on
housing,
I
could
go
on
and
on
there's
this
big
gap
between
the
haves
and
have-nots
and
it's
right
along
race
lines,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
room
for
improvement
and
policing
and
I
think
as
a
nation.
We
have
a
lot
of
room
for
areas
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
and
addressing
and
the
cops
are
struggling.
E
There's
a
few
that
are
leaving
every
chief
that
I've
talked
to
they've
lost
lost
a
few.
Somebody
sees
more
than
others,
New
York,
City
Atlanta,
other
parts
of
the
country.
La
I
mean
they're
leaving
in
droves,
but
people
here
I
believe
little
things
like
making
sure
that
we
hydrate
them
that
were
feeding
them,
that
we're
giving
them
rest
when
we
can
that
we're
trying
to
give
them
a
day
off
service
guys
and
galaxies
1
to
14
days
with
no
days
off.
E
But
you
can
get
me
really
emotional
when
I
think
about
that,
and
and
and
we
have
a
lot
of
room
for
improvement,
I
thought
the
max
he's
vocal
he's.
Smart
I
love
this
guy
he's
gonna,
be
our
mayor
one
day,
but
he's
not
afraid
to
speak
his
mind,
just
like
you,
but
somewhere
in
the
middle
of
all.
That
is
going
to
unite
us.
That's
fine,
I,
hope,
prayer
and
and
I.
Think
that,
where
we
can
get
United
is
around
meaningful
change.
J
E
As
my
wife
I'm,
not
fooling
all
that
my
wife
would
be
she's
in
one
of
those
categories,
but
we
can't
stop
coming
to
work.
We
never
have,
and
so
it's
scary
the
violence.
It's
scary,
the
the
fact
that
somebody
could
die
at
the
minute
and
we're
all
exposed
to
it
every
day.
It's
scary
that
we
are
being
vilified
because
of
the
many
good
reasons
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
good
reasons
for
this
blue
and
a
lot.
E
B
And
you
know,
chief
I,
believe
the
members
of
this
council
agree
with
you
on
that.
We
we
see
this
as
an
opportunity.
These
are
certainly
challenging
times.
We
recognize
that
many
times
you
can't
really
address
the
challenge
unless
this
put
right
up
in
front
of
your
face,
and
certainly
we've
got
many
issues
that
are
weeds,
community
have
up
in
front
of
our
faces
and
the
police
department's
faces,
and
we
we
really
want
to
ensure
that
we're
able
to
work
through
these
issues
and
show
sons,
yes
snatch.
B
Councilmembers
I
sincerely
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
do
this
virtual
experience
here
tonight,
because,
as
you
see,
there
is
much
work
still
to
do,
and
Chief
has
already
acknowledged
that
I
do
want
to
mention
that,
looking
at
the
agenda
and
cognizant
of
the
time,
we've
missed
two
items
on
the
agenda
that
screening
process
for
new
hires
and
officer
development
and
promotion
process.
So
if
those
two
items
could
be
play,
if
everyone
will
agree,
we
can
place
those
two
items
on
the
next
meetings
agenda.
B
B
B
B
If
there's
anyone
else
who
would
like
to
be
on
that
and
then
Wendy
will
get
with
you
and
captain
Thompson
on
actually
getting
those
effects
way
to
getting
the
information
that
we
mean
to
effectively
work
and
come
back
together
with
that
said
again,
I
do
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
time
and
commitment,
and
the
next
meeting
captain
Thompson,
Steve,
Bethany
and
Wendy.
Would
you
I'll
get
with
suggest
another
meeting
time
for
us.
N
B
B
If
you
could
send
an
email
feel
around,
we
can
see
the
best
time
to
do
the
meeting,
and
then
we
can
get
that
all
set
and
do
the
do
the
announcements
accordingly,
community
members,
not
on
the
council,
but
those
who
have
joined
us
by
zumar
collagen
by
conference,
call
we
sincerely
are
by
you
too.
We
sincerely
appreciate
the
time
you've
taken
to
participate.
I've
looked
at
the
number
of
participants
and
it's
very
healthy.
So
thank
you
so
very
much.
We
look
forward
to
you
participating
again
at
our
next
meeting.
B
If
you
have
any
questions
any
comments,
you
would
like
to
share
between
that
time.
Please
feel
free
to
send
an
email
to
either
your
council
representative
from
your
district
or
send
it
directly
to
Bethany,
whose
email
address
I
believe
was
on
the
contact.
Information
are
listed
on
the
speaks
when
you
were
registering
to
speak
for
tonight's
meeting,
so
the
we
can
ensure
that
we
are
inclusive
of
those
comments
with
all
hearts
and
minds
clear
thanks
again
for
your
time
and
everyone
please
have
a
great
evening
at
this
time.
Council
members,
do
you
agree
for
adjournment.