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From YouTube: Citizen’s Police Advisory Council 2/3/2022
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Citizen’s Police Advisory Council 2/3/2022
A
C
A
Okay,
it
is
two
minutes
after
six
and
we
were
actually
calling
meeting
to
order
at
six
o'clock,
but
we
were
making
certain
that
we
were
streaming
appropriately
and
had
the
proper
securities
on
the
line.
I'm
tuan
fielding-
and
I
am
the
current
chair
for
cpac-
I'm
calling
the
meeting
to
order
welcome.
A
A
D
D
A
F
A
B
G
At
the
heart
of
cajun's
call
for
the
racial
bias.
Audit
was
to
build
trust
between
the
community
and
cpd,
because
trust
is
key
for
safety
of
our
citizens
and
our
police
in
particular.
Black
persons
had
shared
hundreds
of
stories
of
unfair
and
disrespectful
treatment
by
police
and
otherwise
being
targeted.
G
This
was
most
clearly
demonstrated
by
traffic.
Stop
data
that
showed
almost
a
three
to
one
ratio
of
blacks
versus
white
being
stopped,
despite
black
people,
making
up
only
21
percent
of
the
population,
but
our
concerns
were
not
about
just
about
traffic
starts.
They
were
really
across
the
board
now
in
terms
of
cna's
founding
findings.
They
did
find
racial
disparity
in
traffic
stops
and
in
use
of
force,
they
decided
they
cited
the
data
collection
limitations
and
gaps
in
engaging
segments
of
the
community,
especially
blacks.
G
G
Cna
also
purposely
called
out
that
the
community's
input
and
oversight
of
cpd's
progress
in
implementation
is
key
and
that's
why
bill
cagem
and
cpap
come
in
so
two
and
a
half
years
since
the
report
we
acknowledge
some
progress
has
been
made
on
policy
clarity,
data
capture
and
developing
the
dashboard.
There
was
a
lot
to
do
and
the
hard
part
still
lies
ahead.
I'm
reducing
disparities.
G
G
B
H
My
name
is
bill
thomas
and
I'm
a
member
of
cajun.
I
will
be
giving
you
a
brief
summary
of
our
thoughts
on
the
police
department's
audit
dashboard.
Specifically,
we
want
to
assess
how
effective
it
is
in
communicating
to
the
public
the
department's
progress
in
addressing
the
72
recommendations
from
the
cna
2019
racial
bias.
Audit.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
dashboard,
but
you
should
check
it
out.
As
you
will
see,
some
good
thought
has
gone
into
its
design.
H
It
has
a
scoreboard
showing
how
many
audit
recommendations
have
been
fully
complied
with
right
now,
21
and
how
many
are
still
in
progress.
It
is
then
fairly
easy
to
navigate
to
the
specific
audit
recommendations
to
get
their
status.
Unfortunately,
that
is
the
good
news.
The
bad
news
is
that
the
dashboard
falls
far
short
of
its
objective
effect
of
effectively
communicating
the
audit
status
to
the
public.
Here
are
the
major
deficiencies
we
have
identified.
H
First
of
all,
the
dashboard
is
not
concurrent
its
last
update
was
over
a
year
ago
at
the
end
of
2020.
So
when
the
dashboard
currently
shows
21
completed
audit
recommendations,
we
would
think
that
number
should
actually
be
much
higher,
but
it's
difficult
to
know
since
the
dashboard's
not
kept
current
the
item
or
concern.
H
Number
two
is
some
of
the
status
updates
on
the
individual
recommendations
are
vague
and
many
still
in
progress
lack
a
clear
plan
with
target
completion
dates,
concern
number
three:
there
are
no
metrics
in
the
dashboard
which
track
progress
towards
addressing
the
largest
community
concerns
and
disparity
findings
in
the
audit,
those
being
racial
disparity
and
traffic
stops
and
use
of
force,
response
times
and
complaints,
workforce
diversity
in
a
police
department.
Community
interaction,
progress
in
these
areas
are
what
is
most
important
to
the
community.
H
F
F
Okay,
all
right,
I
am
happy
to
share
after
our
deep
dive
on
that
dashboard.
We
have
some
recommendations.
We'd
like
to
share
for
cpd
regarding
the
dashboard
first
recommendation
would
be
that
the
dashboard
be
updated
quarterly
at
minimum,
that
there
should
be
a
summary
added
which
shows
all
progress
since
the
last
update-
and
this
should
be
readily
available
and
easy
to
find
on
the
individual
task
updates.
There
should
be
details
added
about
specific,
planned
and
or
estimated
completion
dates,
also
on
individual
tasks.
A
F
F
Obviously,
we
had
to
go
through
it
pretty
quickly,
but
we're
happy
to
provide
additional
detail
to
help
support
that
we're
asking
cpac
to
monitor
compliance
and
efficacy
of
audit
progress,
preferably
on
a
quarterly
basis,
so
that
will
include
improvements
to
the
dashboard
overall
progress
on
reduction
of
racial
disparities,
for
stops,
arrests
and
citations
and
getting
a
third
party
to
have
independent
oversight,
which,
I
believe
is
something
we've
been
told,
is
in
progress.
But
we
want
to
make
sure
that
cpac
is
on
top
of
where
that
stands
and
make
sure
it
doesn't
lag.
F
We
want
to
make
sure
that
a
replacement
for
wendy
cyber
who,
who
went
out
some
time
ago,
is
hired
soon
and
as
a
matter
of
priority,
and
there
is
an
interim
report
on
audit
implementation
that
has
been
promised
from
the
police
department.
We
would
like
cpac
assistance
in
making
sure
that
that
is
delivered
on
a
timely
basis
and
that
we
work
on
the
communications
that
will
happen
in
connection
with
that,
including
identifying
the
needs
for
any
gaps
that
come
out
with
that.
F
We
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
giving
us
this
time
to
bring
our
concerns
to
you
and
to
ask
for
your
help
in
partnership
in
our.
What
I
believe
is
our
shared
goal
of
increasing
trust
between
the
community
and
the
police
department
and
making
sure
that
there's
accountability
for
reductions
in
racial
disparities.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
our
speakers
coming
to
us
tonight
to
share
with
us
your
concerns.
I
believe
you
may
hear
some
of
your
concerns
addressed
tonight
in
some
of
the
reporting
that
will
occur.
I
will
tell
you
that
we
have
discussed
those
items
that
you
have
shared
with
us
most
of
those
items
that
you've
shared
with
us
tonight.
We
have
discussed
at
previous
meetings,
so
I
would
invite
you
to
please
check
the
website
to
review
our
minutes.
A
A
A
It
says:
guest
number
five-
I
just
didn't-
want
to
miss
anyone
if
someone
else
were
to
be
speaking
to
us,
okay.
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
share
with
us
again
here
at
our
meeting
tonight.
Item
roman
numeral
five.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
were
made
aware,
but
councilwoman
mary
alice,
mack
passed
away
in
january.
A
A
A
Our
eduardo
curry
has
been
approved
to
join
so
welcome
eduardo
curry,
councilman,
curry,
to
cpac
we're
very
happy
to
have
you,
as
we
shared
with
you
in
december,
and
looking
forward
to
the
work
that
you'll
be
doing
on
the
subcommittees
and
with
cpac
as
a
whole
did
marisol
join
us,
marisol,
bailey,
okay
and
unfortunately,
ernest
bryant.
Who
was
the
detective
who
was
with
us
in
december.
A
A
D
Thank
you.
So
we
met
I've
distributed
the
notes
over.
I
think
everybody
can
read
the
notes,
but
I
think
the
highlight
of
the
communications
subcommittee
is
we're
finally
coming
to
pass
and
holding
our
first
educational,
slash
informational
session.
I
sent
out
an
invite
to
this
group
invites
one
out
to
the
media
and
all
different
sources.
D
It's
taking
place
next
week
on
february,
8th
at
7
00
pm
we're
predicting
it's
going
to
take
we're
just
slotting
for
about
30
minutes,
we're
anticipating
about
20
minutes
of
information
and
then
yeah
making
it
available
for
questions
to
be
submitted.
It
will
be
in
a
town
hall
type
format,
so
that
yeah
the
the
participants
only
the
panelists
will
be
seen
on
video
and
heard.
D
So
any
participant
that
wants
to
submit
questions
will
do
so
in
writing
and
we
can
acknowledge
those
if
we
want
to
we
can
you
know
we
can
certainly
make
them
visible,
but
that's
the
format
we
want
to
use
for
our
time
frame
that
we
have
also
based
on
recent
activities,
we've
seen
on
some
of
these
forums.
It's
also
a
good
way
for
us
to
make
sure
we
we
respect
decorum
as
we
go
through
this,
so
I
know
there's
a
I
guess.
D
After
the
fact,
the
city
council
is
meeting,
I
believe,
earlier
in
the
day
on
john's
island,
to
go
over
something
that's
very
sensitive
to
this
fruit,
and
you
know
I
want
everybody
to
know
we
booked
this
before.
They
did
so,
of
course,
they're
not
going
to
look
at
us
and
revolve
around
us,
but
we
were
sure
that
that
meeting
would
be
over
before
this
meeting
takes
place,
because
we
did,
we
did
talk
about
rescheduling
our
meeting
yeah
jerry.
E
D
I
D
D
You
couldn't
let
everybody
think
I'm
awesome
steve.
I
appreciate
that
so
really
what
the
goal
is.
We've
met
with
emily
councilmember
broome
and
I
have
met
with
lieutenant
byrne
and
he's
the
patrol
commander
for
the
central
business
district,
which
is
you
know,
which
is
zone
nine,
and
we
really
thought
that
he.
What
he's
going
to
prepare
is
going
to
be
some.
You
know
the
first
portion
is
going
to
be
the
background.
D
We're
gonna
talk
about
what
you
know
how
they've
had
an
impact,
so
what
the
enforcement
actually
is,
whether
it's
you
know
how
the
roads
are.
One
way,
some
of
the
parking
changes,
some
of
the
different
things
like
that
he's
going
to
talk
about
that
and
then
as
much
as
possible.
We've
asked
him
to
show
you
know:
do
we
have
any
tangible
metrics
that
show
do
we
have
a
change
in
arrest?
Do
we
have
a
change
in
crime?
Do
we
have?
D
What
are
the
impacts
of
these
changes
as
much
as
they
know,
and
then
what's
going
to
happen
is
that
you
know
I've
asked
council
member
broome
to
kind
of
moderate
this,
and
you
know
I'll
be
on
there.
Obviously,
but
you
know
to
let
her
do
that
and
the
reason
why
I
asked
her
to
do.
That
is
because
I
think
she's
closer
to
the
situation,
her
family,
you
know
her
and
her
husband
own
businesses
along
that
area.
D
So
I
think
that
that
gives
her
a
better
perspective
than
maybe
I
do
sometimes,
and
so
it's
a
good
pattern.
So
she's
gonna
have
some
questions
that
she's
got
on
her
own,
that
we're
gonna
pose
in
addition
to
the
ones
that
we
know
that
the
community
is
gonna,
send
so
30
minutes
isn't
a
lot
of
time,
but
it's
our
first
one.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
picked
a
topic
we,
you
know
I've
been
asked
why
we
picked
the
topic.
Do
you
guys
know
anytime?
D
You
put
this
out
there
to
the
community.
First
thing
I
got
attacked
by
is
wes
the
people
in
the
west.
Actually,
who
cares
about
downtown?
What
are
you
doing
about
west
ashley?
Well,
we
as
cpac,
even
though
we're
representatives
of
our
individual
neighborhoods,
we
represent
the
whole
and
so,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
going
to
come
up
with
different
topics
through
your
feedback
and
through
the
community's
feedback.
C
Yes,
sir,
I
wanted
to
first
tell
you
guys
thank
you
for
accepting
me
and
welcoming
me
to
the
group.
I
also
wanted
to
say
councilman
tamarino.
I
wanted
to
join
your
subcommittee
and
wanted
to
know
how
I
could
potentially
help
promote
the
event
for
next
week
and,
if
there's
anything,
I
could
do
to
help
get
the
information
out
to
the
people.
D
That's
that's
all
right.
Well,
thank
you
for
raising
your
hand
you're.
Now
a
member
emeritus
of
the
communications
subcommittee,
so
you'll
never
be
released
from
service
you'll,
be
it
in
perpetuity.
What
I'll
do
is
I'll?
Send
you
I'll?
Send
you
a
communication
afterwards,
you
know
get
hold
of
me,
but
pretty
much.
What
I
would
tell
anybody
and
I'm
you
know,
I'm
hoping
you
all
are
doing
this.
The
email
I
sent.
You
has
pretty
much
the
narrative
that
we
want.
D
You
can
strip
out
my
verbage
and
everything
else
leave
the
bulk
of
what
you
saw
in
the
italics
just
so
we're
preserving
an
approved
message,
but
what
you
can
certainly
do
is
like
what
I
did.
I
put
my
little
header
on
the
top
of
it
and
said:
hey
guys,
here's
what
I'm
thinking
I
did
that
for
my
neighborhood
and
a
few
others
encourager,
even
though
the
council
members
have
all
seen
this,
send
it
out
to
your
distribution
list.
Put
it
on
facebook,
do
everything
you
can
do
and
that's
what
we're
doing.
D
I
think
I
think
captain
mcfadden
told
me:
we've
got
several
people
have
registered
council
members
if
you're,
if
you
didn't,
receive
a
specific
invite
and
you're,
not
a
panelist.
Please
register,
because
you
also
will
need
to
register
to
be
part
of
the
meeting.
Okay
you're
going
to
be
a
particular
you're
going
to
be
a
spectator.
D
If
you
want
to
speak
during
the
thing,
let
me
know
in
advance,
so
we
can
add
you
to
the
panelists,
but
right
now
I
think
the
only
people
we
have
this
panelists
are
people
from
the
communications
subcommittee
and
so
edward
I'll
have
a
captain
mcfadden
go
ahead
and
add
you
to
our
panelists
list,
but
yeah
I'm
happy
to
have
you
on
board.
We
we
are.
I
like
it.
Our
communication
subcommittee
is
growing
so
and
that's
the
biggest
piece
of
what
we
do
is
we
are
communications.
D
E
I
did
circulate,
albeit
late
this
week,
the
the
summary
of
our
meeting
of
january
4th
included
in
that
was
an
update
provided
by
captain
cortella
on
the
status
of
the
review
of
policies.
The
77
policies
that
currently
exist,
33
updates,
have
been
completed,
16
were
in
progress
and
five
were
on
the
command
review
and
24
were
yet
to
be
scheduled.
E
One
of
and
I
attached
these
the
schedule
and
the
status
report
there,
so
each
council
member
can
can
look
at
look
at
that
and
determine
those
that
they
think
are
important.
One
of
the
important
things
that
came
out
of
the
discussion,
a
point
of
clarity
for
us.
As
you
know,
the
general
order
5
that
includes
now
includes
language
that
cpac
may
review.
E
Directives
and
policies,
the
procedure
that
the
department
is
establishing
is
that
after
they
have
completed
command
review
and
have
been
posted,
then
they
are
available
for
our
review
and
comment.
What
that
in
essence,
means
is
that
we
do
not
get
to
review
and
comment
before
they
become
public,
and
I'm
not
quite
sure
that
that
was
our
intent.
E
Our
desire,
I
think,
was
to
provide
advice
before
comment
before
they're
being
posted
to
the
public,
but
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
discuss
procedurally,
but
at
this
point
after
and
I
use
specifically
general
order,
one
which
is
the
mission
and
objectives
of
the
department
has
been
completed
and
that
review
it
was
done
after
our
meeting.
We
had
hoped
that
we
would
see
it
before
the
meeting,
but
it
was
done
afterwards
and
circulated.
E
E
I
E
One
of
the
things
I
am
deeply
concerned
about
is,
if
the
public
and
council
members
don't
have
clear
accessibility
in
terms
of
how
you
get
into
the
meeting
and
we
don't
have
security,
that's
not
clear!
That's
going
to
frustrate
us
and
the
public
in
terms
of
how
we
do
this
and
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
we
that
the
department
and
the
city
do
everything
you
can
and
we
become
clear.
So
we
can
communicate
that
publicly.
A
Okay,
councilman
harris.
There
are
a
few
questions
or
a
few
comments.
I
have
based
on
what
you
said.
I'll
start
with
your
ladder
as
far
as
communicating
us
being
able
to
communicate
on
getting
onto
our
meetings,
the
information
is
sent
to
us,
the
zoom
information
to
my
knowledge
and
steve
or
captain
mcfadden,
because
I've
I've
asked
this
question
before
because
of
my
concerns
with
zoom.
A
The
information
that
is
sent
to
us
is
only
sent
to
us
as
far
as
connecting
for
the
call
so
how
the
numbers
got
out,
I'm
not
quite
sure,
as
far
as
connecting
for
the
zoom
call
the
password
and
the
like.
The
other
is
that
when
our
agenda
is
posted,
that's
why
the
agenda
has
to
be
posted.
I
think
a
week
or
so
before.
A
Our
meeting
is
because,
on
the
top
of
the
agenda,
the
agenda
specifies
how,
if
someone
wants
to
speak
to
cpac,
how
they're
able
to
do
that.
I
know
you
and
I
discussed
this
separately
prior
to
tonight's
meeting,
but
on
the
time
and
if
you
look
on
tonight's
agenda,
the
information
is
there
as
well
explaining
how
you're
able
to
speak
to
cpac.
A
I
I
said
it's,
my
understanding
that
we
we
do
this
just
like
council
does
and
that
the
actual
members
of
cpac
are
the
only
ones
that
have
the
zoom
link
to
participate
in
the
meaning
meeting.
Everyone
else
has
to
be
admitted
by
the
administrator
if
they
want
to
comment
and
the
administrator
has
control
to
mute
them
or
or
remove
them
from
the
meeting
should
they
choose
to
do
so.
A
E
They
do.
I
was
a
related
to
the
matter
that
we're
talking
about
security,
the
subcommittee,
the
the
process,
that's
used
for
the
council
meetings,
the
general
counsel
meetings
should
be
also
used
for
the
committee
meetings
and
I
believe
we
had
the
experience
that
we
had
the
last
time,
because
that
was
not
the
procedure
that
was
followed.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
are
clear,
there's
also
our
subcommittees.
E
A
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
if
I
didn't
make
that
clear
when
I
was
talking,
but
I
meant
all
of
the
meetings
of
cpac.
As
you
know,
all
of
our
meetings
are
subject
to
public
opportunity
to
participate.
So
all
of
the
meetings
are
a
public
entity
and
we
have
to
have
them
followed,
set
up
the
same
way.
So
okay
sounds
like,
hopefully
we're
straight
with
that.
Now
the
other
question
I
had
was
you
made
reference
to
the
fact
that
the
subcommittee
is
not
able
to
review
the
policy
before
it
is
released
to
the
public.
E
That's
what
I
understood
captain
cortela,
to
say
that
at
the
same
once
the
command
staff
has
completed
their
review.
The
documents
are
made
public
and
is
at
that
point,
that
cpac
has
whether
it's
at
the
subcommittee
level
or
the
full
full
board.
Whichever
is
the
the
body.
That's
a
concern,
would
have
the
opportunity
to
to
comment.
A
Okay,
when
I
look
captain
when
I
look
at
our
guidelines
that
gives
that
gives
me
some
concern
and
pause,
because,
under
the
citizens,
police
advisory
council's
actions
and
tasks,
one
of
them
is
to
provide
common
suggestions
and
recommendations.
Of
course,
it
says
to
the
chief
of
police
on
department
policies,
procedure
and
programs
related
to
community
policing
and
services.
A
My
concern
is
that
if
one
of
our
responsibilities
is
to
provide
comments,
although
it's
silent
in
the
document,
it
is
implied
that
we
would
participate
in
the
review
of
documents
before
the
document
would
be
released,
that
that,
I
would
think
would
be
the
purpose
of
cpac
we're
a
representation
of
the
community,
and
so
then
that
representation
of
the
community
reviews
to
give
you
some
community
input.
Similarly,
to
what
we
heard
from
cajun
tonight,
we
have
taken
a
look
at
the
dashboard
and
some
of
us
are
still
going
through.
A
The
dashboard
cajun
has
taken
a
look
at
it,
and
they've
presented
some
comments
for
consideration,
which
would
be
the
same
thing
that
we
would
do
what
we
have
solicited
from
cpac
to
do.
Why
is
it
that
it's
been
decided
that
the
council
would
not
review
would
not
include?
Have
their
comments
included
prior
to
the
document
actually
being
released
to
the
public.
J
And
if
we
had
to
take
time
like
right
now,
we're
on
officer
conduct,
so
we're
gonna,
look
through
officer
conduct,
which
is
general
order.
Seven
we're
gonna,
look
at
it
see
if
there's
any
clear
requirements
that
we
need
to
change
or
adjust,
see
if
there's
any
terminology
in
there
and
if
we
just
say,
kicked
it
to
cpac
as
a
whole
or
kicked
it
to
the
subcommittee
that
there
could
be
a
lag
almost
a
month
or
two
months
before
you
got
that
information
and
submit
it
back
to
us.
J
They
could
bring
it
to
our
attention
and
we
have
no
problem
amending
the
policy.
That's
the
great
thing
about
the
way
that
our
department
is
structured
is
that,
while
our
policies
are
black
and
white,
they're
very
fluid,
if
there's
a
new
court
case
that
needs
to
address
just
a
use
of
force
issue
or
a
best
trend,
that's
going
around
that.
We
need
to
adjust
policy
that
we
can
address
it
right
then
and
there,
and
that
is
why
it
simply
comes
down
to
a
timeliness
issue
that
we
have
no
problem,
including
cpac.
J
That's
why
you're
in
geo,
5.5
and
probably
the
easiest
way
is,
if
you
wanted
to
look
at
g01,
we
can
give
you
a
presentation
of
what
we
changed
on
it.
So
you
have
that
basis
and
then,
when
you
guys
meet,
you
guys
can
talk
about
what
you
like
about
it.
What
you
don't,
if
you
want
to
add
something
or
anything
or
any
course
of
nature
like
that,
does
that
make
sense
at
all.
A
My
concern,
though,
is
cpac,
as
the
council
meets
every
other
month
now
and
in
between
the
policy
committee
is
having
a
meeting
so
basically
when
it
comes
to
policies
and
procedures,
there's
a
meeting
every
month
and
and
and
council
members.
If
you
please
feel
free
to
correct
me,
but
my
thinking
is
that
there's
a
meeting
every
month
and
we
we
purposely
did
that
I
increased
the
frequency
of
meetings
so
that
we
could
work
on
some
of
these
challenging
areas
because
we
knew
when
the
council
was
first
established.
A
It
was
established
because
there
were
challenges
I
mean
you
know
being
realistic.
There
were
challenges
and
city
council
wanted
to
do
something
about
the
challenges,
so
we
increased
our
frequency
of
meetings
and
so,
if
a
sub,
if
the
policy
and
procedure
subcommittee
is
meeting-
and
there
is
a
policy
or
procedure-
that's
of
more
importance
than
another-
that
it
has
fleeted
up
to
the
top
of
the
review
list,
then
it
would
be
my
thinking
that
the
committee,
the
subcommittee,
would
be
able
to
talk
about
that.
E
We've
identified
those
as
priorities
that
we're
interested
in.
So
I
just
think
that
there
is
a
need
to
harmonize
that
a
little
bit,
so
I
think
it
has
been,
from
my
perspective,
a
benefit
to
the
department
to
the
city
for
at
least
those
items
that
we
identified.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
comment
before
they
become
public.
If
the
department
is
moving
forward
with
something
they
tell
us
that
they
are,
and
we
have
not
the
capacity
or
can't
do
it
in
a
timely
fashion
such
as
life.
E
C
This
is
george
palmer.
I
do
have
a
comment.
Oh
I'm
gonna
go
a
step
further
than
where
jerome
went.
If
the
goal
is
for
cpac
to
have
an
impact
on
what
the
police
department
is
doing,
then
to
implement
procedures
and
post
them
publicly
before
you
consult
cpac
makes
no
sense
to
me.
It
sounds
like
there's
no
real
value
for
that
input
or
it
wouldn't
have
moved
forward.
C
J
So
if
we
didn't
publish
that
it
would,
we
would
send
it
to
cpac
it'd
go
to
policy,
probably
in
february
and
then
by
march
you'd
go
to
the
full
committee
to
vote
on,
so
we
couldn't
publish
that
until
march.
So
it's
almost
two
months
or
60
days
on
what
we
published
it
now,
like.
I
said
before
I'll
reiterate,.
A
A
A
D
C
So
I
guess
my
question
yeah.
I
guess
my
question
is:
is
there
something
written
that
is
there
a
certain
period
of
time?
I
guess:
was
it
30
days
that
we
would
have
to
be
able
to
respond
to
any
changes
to
any
of
the
policies,
and
if
so,
would
it
be
a
opportunity
for
us
to
call
an
emergency
meeting?
If
that
was
the
case,
it
was
a
time-sensitive
issue.
A
A
This
really
cpac
was
going
to
meet
quarterly
when
cpac
was
first
established,
but
because
of
the
information
shared
at
a
number
of
meetings-
and
I
was
there
in
the
beginning-
that's
the
only
reason
why
I
could
speak
historically,
because
there
was
a
large
amount
of
information
shared
in
the
beginning.
We
realized
that
it
was
going
to
take
more
than
just
quarterly
meetings
for
us
to
try
to
get
to
some
productivity.
E
Just
for
for
councilman
curry's
information,
the
original
recommendation
from
the
policy
subcommittee
was
for
a
30-day
period
to
be
offered
offered
up
someplace
in
the
cycle
before
finalization.
That
language
was
not
included
in
the
general
order
that
was
rewritten
was
written
by
the
by
the
department.
So
the
idea
was
put
in
but
was
not
been
incorporated,
so
we're
operating
now
with
the
the
process
that
outlined
for
you,
that's
reported
by
captain
cortello.
I
Well,
I
can
tell
you
from
the
the
meetings
that
I
attended
to
form
cpac.
There
was
actually
a
committee
that
came
up
with
those
guidelines
and
it
was
chief
mullen
at
the
time
the
intent
was
not
to
have
cpac
review
policies
that
were
necessarily
in
the
every
policy
that
was
necessarily
in
the
process
of
being
reviewed.
I
It
was
only
to
review
the
policies
that
cpac
chose
to
be
relevant
to
be
reviewed.
So
if
we're
doing
a
policy
on
uniforms
or
we're
doing
a
policy
on
vehicles
that
doesn't
necessarily
interest
cpac,
you
know
we're
not
necessarily
going
to
bring
that
to
you.
Unless
you
have
an
interest
in
it,
it
was
to
it
was
to
focus
on
the
policies
whether
they
were
under
review
or
not.
I
I
mean
all
the
policies
are
out
there,
but
if
you
took
an
interest
in
a
specific
policy,
a
specific
issue
and
said,
I
think
you
should
change
this.
That
can
be
done
anytime,
whether
that's
a
policy,
that's
already
been
reviewed,
whether
that's
a
policy
that's
under
review,
whether
that's
the
policy
that
changes
next
week,
you
have
the
ability
to
bring
that
to
the
department's
attention
and
make
recommendations
from
a
legal
perspective.
I
One
of
the
things
that
captain
cortela
brought
up
is
if
the
supreme
court
comes
down
with
the
decision
that
changes
law.
So
it's
contrary
to
our
policy.
We're
going
to
change
that
policy
tomorrow,
we're
not
going
to
have
the
time
to
take
it
to
the
public,
because
our
policy
can't
be
inconsistent
with
what
the
law
is.
So
we're
going
to
change
that
immediately.
I
E
So
I
I
think
we
were
attempting
to
do
that
in
identifying
those
items
that
we
think
is
priority
and
asking,
for
example,
this
traffic
subcommittee
to
do
some.
Similarly,
because
we
know
the
department's
working
through
that
and
trying
to
work
that
out
the
concern
and
he's
absolutely
right
if
the
department
needs
to
issue
a
directive
on
the
current
general
order,
five
doesn't
prevent
them
from
doing
that.
The
reference
to
cpac
in
general
five
does
not
prevent
them
from
doing
that,
but
in
the
situation
general
order
number
one.
E
E
The
policy
subcommittee
life
happens,
okay,
but
we
had
identified
that
as
being
important
and
our
concern
associated
with
it
before
it
becomes
it
was
posted,
was
not
accommodated,
and
I
I
just
think
going
back
and
thinking
look
as
I
recall,
the
policy
goes
from
wherever
it
begins
in
the
department,
through
staff
through
legal
and
then
to
command
staff
for
their
feedback
before
it
becomes
public,
and
I
just
think
in
that
you
know
once
it's
gone
when
it
goes
to
command
staff,
perhaps
we
should
be
asked.
Do
we
want
to
comment?
E
If
we
comment,
we
comment.
If
we
don't
it
moves
forward,
I
think
that
would
that
would
be
a
fair
of
a
better
approach
that
would
solve
would
address
both
the
sense
that
we
are
have.
We
have
a
role
if
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
function
or
it's
not
in
the
best
interests
of
the
city,
for
that
role
to
be
played
at
that
particular
time
incident
by
instant.
E
E
I
would
I
would
move.
You
know
that
the
chair,
whoever
you
designate,
work
with
I'll,
go
back
and
talk
with
the
department
staff
and
steve,
if
necessary,
to
come
up
with
a
process
that
works
for
us.
In
terms
of
there
being
comment,
an
opportunity
for
comment
from
cpac
prior
to
general
orders
and
directors
being
issued.
A
Harris
thank
you
I'm
gonna.
Hopefully
this
summation
of
your
motion
will
be
to
your
liking.
The
motion
has
been
made
that
the
chair
go
back
to
the
cpd
staff
or
steve
rumlin
to
work
out
a
process,
and
so
cpac
would
be
involved
before
documents
are
before
policies.
Procedures
are
released
to
the
general
public.
A
C
A
A
D
Right
yeah,
my
ques,
I
guess
the
only
commentary
would
have
jerry
essentially
made.
The
motion
is
based
on
the
feedback
that
we've
gotten
instead
of
leaving
it
as
a
blanket
all
policies
shouldn't
it
be
amended
to
say,
or
I'm
recommending
an
amendment
to
say
of
the
list
of
policies
that
we've
identified
up
front,
that
we're
monitoring
and
want
to
be
a
part
of
because
you
know
there
could
be
other
policies
outside
of
our
our
interests.
E
Well,
I
I
would
suggest
to
leave
it
open
because
there
may
be
a
policy
that
is
of
interest
to
the
community
that
may
not
have
been
on
our
list.
Just
like
things
would
have
could
happen
from
the
legal
side.
You
know
courts
and
stuff
like
that.
There
could
be
something
happen
from
the
community
side,
and
so
we
might
have
to
be
nimble
as
well
or
not.
Thank
you.
A
A
B
B
B
We
seem
to
do
get
very
good
reviews
with
going
into
the
apartment
complexes
and
presenting
to
management
and
also
community
members
with
crime
and
safety
tips,
and
so
that's
kind
of
something
that
I
would
like
for
us
to
either
start
getting
some
new
ideas
for
start
doing
a
little
bit
more
and
kind
of
expand
to
maybe
some
complexes
where
we
we
don't
typically
go
and
hit
some
of
those
communities.
We're
still
doing
well
with
our
alice
training,
which
is
active,
shooter
training
that
businesses
will.
Let
us
know
if
they're
interested.
B
B
That
was
very
good
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
again.
This
year
we
did
drug,
take
back
and
then
planned
with
city
rec.
Actually,
a
christmas
event
at
martin
park
over
in
the
johnson
street
community
that
went
very
well
as
well
and
santa's
escort
ride,
went,
went
off
very
well.
We
had
a
lot
of
donations
for
ronald
mcdonald,
house
and
fisher
house,
and
then
we
had
a
family
holiday
event
in
bridgeview.
B
Here
we
did
do
a
clothing
drive,
so
we
partnered
with
mitchell
elementary
over
at
the
gathering
center
and
I
did
a
clothing
drive
in
there,
and
so
that
was
a
very
good
turnout
and
we're
able
to
give
out
some
other
things
for
for
the
youth
for
school
and
some
items
with
like
that.
There's
just
I
mentioned
coffee
with
a
cop.
That's
just
our
our
happy
faces
there
with
one
of
our
citizens
and
then
greg's
grocery
serving
connect.
B
Obviously
this
was
the
end
of
last
year,
but
they
did
give
us
award
for
all
the
food
boxes
and
the
many
communities
that
we
were
getting
into
and
obviously
this
is
a
partnership
craig's
groceries
throughout
the
state
and
they
do
a
lot
for
the
communities
and
they're
looking
for
ways
to
expand,
and
so
we
love
working
with
them
as
well
all
right.
Moving
on,
let's
grow
this
back
up.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
mention.
I
know
I've
mentioned
our
quick
response.
B
Our
proposal
for
the
charleston
county
addiction
crisis
task
force,
which
is
sorry
what
what
we've
been.
What
I've
been
mentioning,
so
that
funding
is
going
to
allow
for
a
lot
of
community
driven
programs
and
responses
to
some
of
these
drug
threats
in
charleston,
county
and
and
also
we're
able
to
keep
rachel
on
board
for
a
number
more
years
as
well.
She's
been
doing
such
a
great
job.
B
So
some
just
update
on
some
of
the
projects
we
we
I've
mentioned
low
country
youth
services,
and
that
was
our
year-long
mentorship
program
over.
In
gaston
green
with
the
youth
in
that
area,
which
did
begin
december,
2nd
so
the
first
quarter,
they
do
always
engage
with
law
enforcement.
We
join
rishon
and
some
of
his
mentors,
which
actually
this
saturday,
they
will
be
doing
a
mentor
trying
to
recruit
some
mentors,
but
the
first
quarter
that
was
completed.
B
They
did
a
lot
of
working
on
communication
skills,
active
listening
and
some
team
building,
emotional
intelligence
and
some
conflict
resolution.
And
so
the
important
thing
here
is
that
since
we've
opened
the
gathering
center
from
june
to
november,
I
believe
the
analyst
I
talked
with
analysts
about
that.
B
So
we've
seen
a
large
reduction
in
firearm
related
violent
crime
during
that
time
period
since
as
compared
to
the
year
before
so
so
being
successful
there
and
then
obviously
we're
going
to
open
our
community
center
in
robert
mills,
which
unfortunately
keeps
getting
put
back
due
to
some
issues
with
the
roof
and
now
the
floor.
But
we're
still
aiming
for
a
february
grand
opening
we're
already
trying
to
to
plan
some
engagement
with
the
youth
over
there
with
some
students
at
meminger
elementary
school.
B
So
hopefully
we'll
get
that
done
in
february
and
then
so
a
lot
of
our
focus.
This
year,
like
I
said
on
crime
prevention,
we
have
started
to
brainstorm
kind
of
2022
and
and
we
do
want
to
start
focusing
on
some
of
our
vulnerable
adults,
and
so
we
do
want
to
get
back
into
our
senior
centers.
That
will
have
us
there
and,
and
we've
already
been
in
talks
with
some
of
them
and
they're.
You
know
welcoming
us
back
in
and
I've.
B
B
So
so
we're
pretty
excited
to
start
working
with
with
people
in
that
community
again
as
well.
We
are
also
working
with
coastal
crisis
chaplaincy
our
partnership
project
and
we
are
planning
a
community
walk
in
the
ardmore
community
and
then
going
to
pick
some
of
our
other
community
communities.
I
know
paul
miller's,
probably
on
the
list
in
bridgeview
and
do
some
quarterly
community
events,
but
also
engage
the
residents
talk
to
them
about
what
kind
of
service
projects
we
can
do
for
them.
What
they
would
like
to
see.
B
You
know
this
isn't
really
about
us
planning
the
events
or
getting
in
there.
We
really
want
to
bridge
the
gap
open
the
communication
so
that
when
there
is
crime
we
can
get
some
residents
to
come
speak
with
us
and
we
can
help
reduce
that
fear
of
crime
as
well.
Also,
our
citizens
academy
did
lay
out
those
dates.
B
It's
going
to
be
eight
weeks
took
some
recommendations
from
some
of
you
that
attended
the
last
one.
We
made
a
few
changes
and
so
we're
updating
that
flyer
and
that's
going
to
run
april
6th
through
may
25th,
so
we're
pretty
excited
about
our
spring
citizens
academy
again
and,
of
course,
open
house
planning
a
community
and
recruiting
event
for
april
28th
is
our
new
date,
since
kobe
kind
of
stifled
us
a
little
bit.
So
that's
a
lot
of
planning
is
going
to
happen
for
open
house
as
well.
B
A
D
E
E
B
E
B
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
can
try
to
get
into
many
different
communities,
because
the
survey
will
specify
we'll
have
the
citizens
specify,
obviously
where
they
live,
so
that
once
we
receive
the
comments
or
the
answers,
I
can
appropriately
distribute
that
to
their
team
commanders,
because
one
community
is
not
going
to
have
the
same
issues
as
another,
so
I'm
still
making
those
changes
and
and
then
I
will
email
it
out.
Let
you
review,
obviously
we
can
discuss
it
and
then
I'm
not.
E
B
This
data
is
it's,
this
data
will
kind
of
be
like
the
start
of
maybe
a
one
to
five
year
period.
The
goal
here
is
to
to
figure
out
kind
of
where
we
are
in
terms
of
our
relations.
Obviously,
law
enforcement
with
citizens,
but
also
the
different
types
of
crime
or
fear
of
crime
in
each
community,
and
then
obviously
the
goal
would
be
to
distribute
these
responses
to
area
commanders
so
that
we
can
so
they
can
come
up
with
solutions
right,
downtown
issues
or
communities
are
not
the
same
as
daniel
island
or
james
island.
B
So
so
the
goal
would
be
ultimately
to
work
on
these.
You
know
I,
whether
it's
feelings
of
law
enforcement
or
feelings
of
maybe
one
person
thinks
they're
having
you
know,
shootings
every
night
versus
someone
else
thinks
they're
having
car
break-ins.
It's
mainly
to
not
only
kind
of
bridge
the
gap,
but
also
educate
them
on
what
the
crime
what's
actually
occurring
in
their
neighborhood
versus
perception
as
well.
B
So
that
would
be
up
to
kind
of
the
commander
to
try
to
work
on
some
of
those
issues,
and
then
the
goal
would
be
maybe
at
year,
two
or
three.
I
think
the
strategic
plan
said
year
one
three
and
five,
but
we
can
always
reassess,
but
to
kind
of
then
maybe
make
changes
to
the
survey
and
and
figure
out
if,
if
what
we're
doing
in
our
communities
is
actually
working
between,
you
know
the
time
we
issue
these
surveys
so
that
that's
ultimately
the
goal.
D
Yeah
the
follow-up
on
a
question
that
was
asked
by
one
of
the
community
members
prior
and
I
know
we-
we
asked
us
regularly.
What's
that,
what
is
the
status
of
replacing
you
know,
I
I
don't
know
the
phone
you
know,
so
I
I
hate
referring
to
it
as
wendy's
job,
but
that's
kind
of
what
we
know
it
as
unofficially.
D
K
Hi,
all
right
so
I'll.
Take
that
question
paul
that
if
we
actually
just
closed
out
phase
one
of
that
process,
we
had
a
several
applicants.
It
was
a
nationwide
application
process,
so
actually
betting
that
down
getting
that
down
to
candidates
going
to
a
phase
two.
Where
we'll
be
touching
base
with
you
guys
here
shortly
as
far
as
those
candidates.
So
we're
trying
to
bet
the
application
pool
of
the
30
plus
candidates
that
we
got
to
a
feasible
number
and
then
proceed
forward
with
phase
two
and
we'll
pull
in
cpac
from
there.
K
A
J
So
that's
why
we
created
the
dashboard
and
and
the
release
of
the
dashboard,
I
believe,
was
the
end
of
october
and
then
our
public
safety
council
meeting.
We
advised
that
we'd
update
the
dashboard
at
a
minimum
of
twice
a
year,
because
now
we
have
some
accomplishments
that
we
want
to
highlight,
but
then
also
at
the
end
of
january.
We
do
a
press
release
in
reference
to
our
accomplishments
on
the
dashboard
and
that
will
be
coming
out
sometime
tomorrow.
J
J
J
J
J
A
E
Just
before
we
go
to
the
agenda
items
for
the
next
meeting
at
the
at
our
policy
meeting
catholic
patel
also
reported
on
the
search,
for
I
mean
the
yeah.
I
guess
the
process
for
securing
a
third
party
entity
to
do
an
evaluation
of
the
status
of
the
recommendations.
I'm
just
wondering
whether
or
not
either
he
or
deputy
chief
walker
wanted
to
provide
an
update
from
the
to
the
to
the
council.
On
that.
A
K
We're
trying
to
have
the
hiring
process
so
two
priorities
with
the
police
department
right
now.
The
first
one
is
the
procedural
justice
position.
That's
before
the
end
of
the
first
quarter,
which
rolls
around
in
march
into
april.
That
is
our
target.
That's
what
we're
shooting
for
and
the
same
thing
as
far
as
trying
to
get
some
reconciliation
with
this
third-party
assessor,
it's
just
finding
within
the
budgeted
amount,
someone
that
can
come
in
and
that's
objective
that
can
do
that
project,
so
consulting
with
these
guys,
we're
kind
of
at
the
at
the
mercy
of
people.
K
A
Okay,
it's
topics
for
future
agenda.
You
know
our
standard.
Our
standard
items
on
our
agenda
are
roman
numerals,
one
through
four
that
we
have
on
the
agenda
for
tonight
and
then,
of
course,
roman
numeral,
seven
subcommittee
reports.
We
move
up
to
roman
numeral
five
and
our
updates,
any
other
specific
items
would
like
to
discuss
or
hear
about.
We
would
have
already
had
the
community
first
session
communication
session
on
february,
the
8th
councilman
tambourina.
I
don't
know
if
you
would
be
covering
that.
Just
under
your
subcommittee
report-
and
I
see
you.
D
A
D
D
Not
only
do
we
get
a
better
understanding,
but
it
gives
us
a
better
dialogue
with
them
and
those
are
great
opportunities
to
hear
from
more
than
just
the
leadership
team
that
we
have
here.
You
get
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
somebody
who's
on
the
front
line
and
that's
a
critical
need
for
them
and
for
us,
so
that's
just
a
commercial
on
that.
K
Hey
paul
yeah,
we
just
just
sent
out
an
update
to
cpd
swann
and
on
swarm
yesterday
very
good
spirits
had
a
successful
procedure
now
he's
trying
to
get
to
rehab,
which
he
just
began
this
week.
So
hopefully
we
can
get
him
back
to
charleston
within
the
next
couple
days,
hopefully
a
week
or
so
that's
the
goal,
but
very
good.
K
D
A
Get
a
response
on
the
way
back,
so
we
do
need
to.
Please
continue
to
keep
him
and
his
family
and
in
your
thoughts
and
prayers,
and
thank
you
for
for
all
that.
You
all
are
doing
deputy
chief
walker
and
the
and
the
others
there
to
make
sure
that
things
continue
to
to
progress
in
the
way
that
we
would
want
to
have
them
and
in
a
way
that
we
know
chief,
would
would
want
things
to
progress.
K
Yes,
ma'am
and
I
have
to
give
credit
where
it's
due
and
it's
the
gods.
That's
on
the
call
scott
mcfadden
see
cop
middleton,
captain
brutal
deputy
chief
thompson,
steve
and
please
law.
Don't
let
me
forget
no
one
that
they
own
here,
but
they
really
really
really
stepped
up
and
there's
no
way
that
I
can
handle
this
position
without
their
support
and
vice
versa.
So
we
got
a
really
good
team
got
some
great.
A
Okay,
all
right,
emily
and
jerry
said
yes,
okay,
I
don't
see
anybody
saying
that
there
there
would
be
a
problem
if
we
changed.
Let's
see
paul
okay,
so
we're
good
in
dars
all
right,
okay,
so
our
meeting
in
april
will
be
at
six
o'clock
on
zoom
and
we
will
select
our
do.
You
want
to
select
the
meeting
dates
for
june
and
august
now,
or
would
you
like
to
come
prepared
to
select
that
date
in
april?