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City of Charleston Citizen Police Advisory Council 12/3/20
A
A
A
B
And
I
I
have
checked
off,
we
do
have
a
quorum.
We
have
11
people
in
the
meeting
right
now,
one
so
we're
good
to
approve
anything
that
we
need
to
approve.
A
Okay,
perfect
and
I'm
not
sure
I
believe
mary
alice
mack
might
be
calling
in.
I
don't
know.
If
that's
I
don't
know,
if
that's
her
phone
number
who's,
seven,
zero,
eight,
five,
eight,
four:
three:
seven:
zero:
eight:
five:
six:
nine
zero!
B
You
can
press
try
to
press
star
six
to
unmute
yourself
if
that's
miss.
A
I
called
the
meeting
to
order
a
cpac
meeting
for
december
3rd
to
order,
and
it's
so
good
to
see
all
of
you
here
tonight.
We've
got
a
very
aggressive
agenda,
which
is
wonderful.
I
think
we
have
some
exciting
information
to
share,
so
we're
looking
forward
to
getting
that
all
shared
up
with
you.
Please
would
you
keep
max
milligan
one
of
our
council
members
in
your
kind,
positive
thoughts.
Unfortunately,
he
experienced
a
fire
today
and
he
is
safe
and
unharmed.
A
He
is
being
relocated,
but
he
will
not
be
able
to
join
us
on
tonight's
call
for
tonight's
meeting
and
I
I
have
talked
with
him
and
I
am
going
to
check
with
him
again
after
the
meeting
is
over.
So
please,
if
you're
able
to
reach
out
to
him.
I
know
he
would
appreciate
that
as
well.
A
Bethany,
you
said
you've
already
done.
The
roll
call.
A
A
A
A
A
This
now
takes
us
to
our
election
of
chairman
and
chairperson
and
vice
chairperson
discussion.
I
did.
I
was
able
to
get
with
steve
roomelin
to
review
our
guidelines.
A
A
Well!
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
your
vote
of
confidence
and
I
look
forward
to
working
along
with
you
by
in
the
new
year.
The
floor
is
now
open,
then,
for
vice
chairman-
and
you
know
now,
let
me
say
that
paul
remember
paul
was
has
just
recently
been
elected
to
the
vice
chairperson
position.
I
think
he
has
been
in
for
all
of
two
or
three
months
and
he
was
finishing
the
unexpired
term
of
our
previous
vice
chairperson,
who
I
had
to
resign
due
to
some
work,
commitments
and
paul.
Are
you
available
to?
E
D
C
A
A
A
On
the
nomination
of
okay
gotcha,
I
think
I
saw
everybody
peter.
I
saw
your
thumb
before
right,
good
deal,
gotcha,
okay,
then
I
don't
see
anyone
left
to
do
opposition
so
paul.
Congratulations,
you're,
a
vice
chairperson.
We
ended
to
win
it
to
continue
rolling
for
the
next
year.
Thank
you,
members
for
expeditiously
moving
through
that
particular
agenda
item
and
steve.
A
I
want
to
thank
you
again,
steve
roman,
thank
you
again
for
your
assistance
in
ensuring
that
we
are
appropriately
interpreting
the
guidelines
that
the
city
has
the
city
council
has
provided
for
us
to
follow
now
for
the
citizens
participation
period.
Bethany
informed
me
earlier
today
that
we
didn't
have
any
citizens
who
wanted
to
speak
with
us
on
tonight.
Bethany.
Is
that
still
the
condition?
That's.
B
Correct
I
put
that
link
up
on
the
website
last
thursday
afternoon.
I
think-
and
I
didn't
get
any
requests
by
phone
email
or
on
that
website
and
there
were
no
comments
left
either.
A
Okay,
all
right.
Well,
thank
you
for
sharing
that
now,
members
of
the
community
that
are
out
there
in
youtube
land,
as
well
as
those
that
may
have
dialed
in
to
join
us
tonight.
If
you
have
any
comments
or
any
questions
or
concerns
that
you
want
to
provide
to
us
even
following
this
meeting,
please
feel
free
to
send
it
in
to
that
website
address
or
to
contact
to
send
it
in
to
bethany
or
to
send
it
in
to
any
of
our
email.
Addresses
that
you
have.
A
Now
we're
at
our
subcommittee
reports-
and
I
am
really
excited
because
we
are-
we
have
gotten
three
subcommittees
that
have
really
really
been
busy
working
since
our
october
meeting
and
even
before
so
for
the
traffic
stop
committee,
joe
is
joe
lyson
is
going
to
respond
to
us
and
report
for
communications.
Paul
tamborino
will
report.
They
are
both
the
chairman
for
those
two
subcommittees
respectively
and
for
the
policies
and
procedures
committee
instead
of
max
milligan
presenting
jerry
harris,
jerome
harris
is
going
to
present
to
us
tonight
so
miss
leicester.
A
F
Yeah,
okay,
the
first
part
of
it.
I
was
just
asking
for
funds
for
that
committee,
so
we
could
party
but
I'll
hold
off
on
that
before
I
get
into
the
report,
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
did
not
extend
my
appreciation
to
ryan
davis
for
stepping
up
when
I
tried
to
figure
out
how
I
could
correct
all
the
errors
that
I
had
on
my
computer
before
it
completely
just
disintegrated.
F
F
I
believe,
but
if
you
didn't
you'll
notice,
that
the
action
items
that
we
completed,
some
of
them
were
sort
of
a
extension
of
our
previous
meetings,
but
for
the
first
time
I
got
to
tell
you
now,
I
I
feel
that
we
now
have
a
venue
to
work
off
of.
F
F
They
have
a
job,
they
have
a
an
agenda,
they
have
the
trainings,
they
have
the
platforms
they
had
all
of
this,
but
the
one
ingredient
that
we
wanted
to
talk
about.
We
never
did
and
we
never
got
to
it,
and
that
was
the
public
traffic
stops,
are
critical
as
along
with
everything
else,
but
as
I
read
through
everything,
including
the
bias
report,
rachel
bias,
audit
excuse
me,
and
you
know
64
pages
of
thousands
of
words.
F
F
F
I'm
I'm
strongly
against
trying
to
make
any
kind
of
recommendations
for
anything
based
on
some
written
documents
about
third
party,
and
I
don't
mean
to
hurt
anybody's
feelings,
but
my
whole
career
in
the
last
50
years
has
been
based
on
give
me
the
facts.
Give
me
an
opportunity
to
digest
them.
Let
me
ask
some
questions
now.
We
have
that
and
I'm
very
grateful.
You
know
for
the
captain
for
getting
the
the
information
to
us
and
you
see
those
seven
items.
F
All
of
them
are
very,
very,
very
important.
The
the
sequence
that
they're
listed
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
priority.
There's,
certainly
no
doubt
about
it
that
we
need
to
consider
the
multicultural
for
law
enforcement.
F
That's
got
to
be
a
you
know.
We
got
to
get
away
from
the
old,
30s
and
40s
we
got
to.
We
had
to
get
up
with
this
and
the
way
to
do
that
is
to
utilize
the
fact
that
we
are
multicultural,
but
how
many
people
realize
that
we
are.
F
I
mean,
most
recently
chief
reynolds
acknowledged
the
promotion
of
a
couple
of
african-americans
who
were
qualified.
They
weren't
promoted
because
they
were
african
americans,
but
because
they
were
qualified,
that's
a
big
difference
and
the
thing
of
it
is
when
we
now
can
go
into
the.
I
thought
the
community.
By
the
way
I
thought
the
communications
report
was
exceptional
because
it
took
that
ingredients
that
they
had
there
and
I
married
it
into
the
traffic
stop,
and
I
now
realize
that
there's
some
things
we
could
do
through
traffic
stops
to
parallel
and
support
the
communications.
F
F
You
can't
beat
practical
experience,
there's
an
old
saying.
You
can't
tell
a
book
by
its
cover,
so
you
can
read
that
racial
bias
report
audit.
You
can
reach
the
different
reports
that
have
been
put
out
and
some
of
the
narration
is
great.
Some
of
it
creates
questions
and
a
lot
of
it
could
be
addressed
if
you
could
just
be
there
if
you
could
just
go
through
it.
F
I
still
have
flashbacks
of
my
time
and
and
the
training
when
we
were
in
the
garage
and
the
guy
came
out
there
with
a
knife,
and
you
know
I
immediately
reverted
back
to
my
days
in
in
vietnam,
so
I
can
appreciate
on
a
traffic
stop
what
a
police
officer
is
looking
at
and
the
first
thing
is
always
their
safety
and
the
safety
of
the
citizen,
but
the
citizens
don't
perceive
that,
and
so
I
feel
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
will
really
tackle
on
traffic
socks
and
we're
going
to
go
into
the
community
we've
got
to
get
them
to
understand
that
the
police
department
cares
about
them,
we're
just
not
stopping
them
to
be
stopping
them.
F
You
know
the
question
came
up
about
a
busted
headlight.
Can
you
can
you
advise
them
to
to
yeah?
You
got
a
bad
headlight
and
we're
going
to
give
you
this
water
ticket,
but
that's
just
a
reminder,
so
you
can
get
it
done.
F
Could
you
take
it
a
step
further
and
say,
but
by
the
way
now,
I'm
not
sure
where
you
live,
but
any
advanced
store
or
whatever
execs
acceptance
they
they've
got
it.
They'll.
Do
it
they'll
pop
it
in
for
you
and
that
kind
of
stuff
like
that
we
gotta,
we
gotta,
establish
a
rapport
with
the
community
even
in
a
traffic
stop-
and
I
want
to
I
want
to
be
there.
I
know
ryan
does
and
I'm
sure
that
the
rest
of
the
committee
feels
the
same
way.
I
want
to
be
there.
F
I
want
to
hear
what
they
say.
I
want
to
see
how
they
react.
I
mean
when
I
was
on
that
first
ride
along
we
were
in
a
couple
of
hot
spots
and
the
officer
did
an
exceptional
job.
He
was,
and
my
opinion
sometimes
is
a
little
bit
too
little
because
at
the
site,
there's
a
sign
that
says:
stop
it
doesn't
stand
for
skid
tires
on
the
pavement,
it
means
stop
and
you
don't
roll
through
stop
signs
and
consequently
that
generates
accidents.
F
So
all
in
all,
I
think
a
lot
of
the
information
that
was
available.
It's
being
done,
we
want
to
verify
it.
I
want
to
verify
it.
Okay,
I
want
to
verify
it.
So
I
can
come
in
your
community
to
your
social
club
to
whenever
and
say,
listen.
I've
seen
it
when
they
approach
the
car,
they
introduce
themselves
they're
very
polite.
F
You
know,
even
if
it's
pouring
down
rain
or
whatever
they're,
not
abrasive
they're,
not
rude
crude
and
sociably,
unacceptable
they're
there
to
talk
to
you
about
the
possibility
of
the
violation
and
what
what
occurred,
how
it
occurred
why
it
occurred
and
if
the
ticket's
necessary,
then
the
ticket's
going
to
have
to
be
given,
I
did
get
a
packet
from.
Is
it
ms
divers,
I
believe,
is
that
we
got
it
from
ryan,
okay
and
she's
got.
We
got
the
hot
spots
on
there.
F
We
show
the
map
of
west
ashley
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
that's
really
very
good
from
for
talking
points,
but
I'm
hoping
that
the
traffic
stop
committee
can
take
the
steps
forward.
Utilizing
the
information
that
the
communications
committee
has
provided
to
get
out
in
the
community.
We
have
got
to
start
knocking
on
some
doors
and
visiting
some
social
clubs
and
garden
clubs
and
choir
groups,
boy
scouts,
girl,
scouts
and
school
program.
It
doesn't
matter,
we've
got
to
be
there
and
we
got
to
talk
to
them.
We
gotta
let
them
we're,
not
politicians.
A
Joe,
that's
what
I
was
gonna
ask
you
the.
I
saw
the
presentation
that
you
all
had
captain
cortela
when
did
wendy
cyrus
sent
it
out
to
all
of
us
to
look
at
and
that's
an
excellent
powerpoint
presentation.
Can
that
is
that
available?
Are
we
able
to
share
that
with
the
community
or
captain
patella?
Do
we
need
to
our
chief
rentals?
Do
we
need
to
hold
off
on
sharing
that
with
the.
D
F
A
He's
reconnecting
jerry,
you
you've
got
your
hand
up.
C
Yeah
you
indicated
that
wendy
circulated
the
data
that
was
shared
with
the
traffic
committee.
I
don't
recall
seeing
that
so
I'd
appreciate
getting
getting
the
topic.
A
E
E
A
F
I
sure
will
question
question
question,
though,
are
you
talking
about
the
citizens,
interaction
and
traffic?
Stop.
F
H
I'll
I'll,
let
tony
add
more
context,
but
I
think
what
he
was
trying
to
say
is
that
we
absolutely
want
to
do
that.
He
wants
to
polish
it
up
a
little
bit
and
because
arthur
lee
and
and
I
think,
lieutenant
mcfadden
and
others
added
value
in
their
presentation,
he
would
do
a
voiceover
and
and
just
make
it
something
that
would
be
of
value
and
yes
to
get
that
out
to
produce
kind
of
a
professional
product
and
something
that
could
go
out
to
all
the
faith
community.
H
All
the
different
community
groups
that
joe
listed
and
the
answer
is
yes,
we
can
get
that
out,
we'll
help
expedite
that
and
get
it
in
a
format
that
is,
reproducible
and
shareable
and
and
adds
the
context
that
you
also
have
heard.
Besides
just
the
powerpoint.
A
F
H
Yes,
I
think
we
can
do
a
whole
variety
of
different
things
with
that,
I
think
it's
an
important
topic.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
families
and
churches
and
community
groups
that
have
a
lot
of
interest
in
how
we
do
traffic
stops.
Why
are
we
doing
what
to
expect
all
the
things
that
you
mentioned
with
safety
protocols
and
and
and
why
we
do
what
we
do
and
the
standards
that
we
hold
ourselves
to
and
training
and
all
those
things
that
you
that
you
went
over.
F
I
have
found
great
success
with
that.
I
hate
to
borrow
from
another
national
organization,
but
the
american
legion
has
always
suffered
in
trying
to
contact
2.4
million
people
just
something
about
trying
to
get
them
all
on
the
screen
at
one
time
it
doesn't
work
so
they
went
to
using
podcasts
for
memberships
for
different
programs,
and
it
was
amazing.
F
The
measurement
came
back
and
it
came
back
through
their
responses
and
or
contributions
and
all
purchases
and
or
volunteering
for
different
things,
and
I'm
just
thinking
if
we
we
did
that
in
charleston
people
at
their
leisure
would
have
a
chance
to
look
at
it,
hear
it
read
it
or
whatever
digest
it
think
about
it,
come
back
to
it
and
then
maybe
be
able
to
come
back
to
this
council
and
say:
hey.
Listen
what
about
this?
What
about
that?
You
know
so
that'd
be
great.
I
I
personally.
I
appreciate
that
as
far
as.
A
H
F
Well,
didn't
the
communications
committee
mention
the
possibility,
brittany,
you
might
remember
about
the
a
web
page
or.
A
Actually,
joe,
that's
a
wonderful
lead
into
the
communications
subcommittee
report
if
there
are
no
additional
questions
for
for
the
traffic
stop
subcommittee,
we
thank
you
so
much
for
that
very
detailed
and
great
report.
We'll
move
on
to
the
communication
subcommittee
because
joe's
giving
us
a
wonderful
lead
in
and
paul
tamborino
will
then
share
with
us.
The
communication
subcommittee
war.
E
Hey
good
evening,
everybody
and
thanks
for
allowing
me
to
present
this
I've,
submitted
my
report
in
the
minutes
from
the
subcommittee
in
writing.
So
I'm
not
going
to
I'm
not
going
to
repeat
everything
that
you
can
read,
so
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
give
you
some
highlights
of
it
primarily.
What
we
did
is
we
got
back
together
for
our
second
meeting,
and
you
know
we
all
came
to
the
table
with
some
recommendations.
E
Having
reviewed
the
audit
as
it
relates
to
communications,
wendy
was
really
good
about
doing
a
review
of
that.
So
in
our
first
meeting,
what
we
asked
wendy
to
do
is
the
whole
idea
of
not
wanting
to
recreate
the
wheel
and
maybe
getting
some
feedback
from
other
advisory
committees
around
the
country
that
are
doing
the
same
thing
and
have
a
similar
mission
than
what
we
do
so
when
he
reached
out
to
several
citizen
groups
around
the
country.
E
E
E
So
we
shared
some
of
our
information.
We
received
information
back.
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
big
things
that
I
think
we
all
took
from
it.
One
of
the
you
know
in
greenville
is
they
did
a
citizen
survey,
so
they
weren't
they
weren't
sitting
here
in
an
echo
chamber
just
talking
to
each
other,
but
what
we
think
is
best.
E
What
they
did
is
they
put
together
a
survey
and
took
back
responses
over
a
two-week
period,
and
they
said
it
was
the
greatest
response
rate
they'd
ever
had
they
had
about
two
to
three
thousand
responses,
and
so
they
were
able
to
collate
that
data
put
together
some
information
that
helped
drove
the
actions
of
their
citizens
council.
So
you
know
it
wasn't
a
group
of
people
like
us
just
sitting
here
saying.
Well,
you
know,
let's
either
take
our
leave
from
the
department
or
you
know
our
own
thoughts.
E
It
was
actually
being
engaged
in
with
the
community
and
really
that's.
The
role
of
our
committee
is
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
just
talking
to
ourselves
that
we're
actually
going
out
and
fulfilling
our
purpose
that
we
do
represent
citizens,
and
so
we
are
listening
to
them.
So
that
was
a.
I
think
it
was
a
great
meeting.
I
think
everybody.
You
know,
I
think
everybody
got
something
out
of
it,
because
I
know
we
were
all
pretty
engaged
in
it.
You
know
we're
I'm
pretty
fortunate
that
our
subcommittee
has
four
people
and
then
yeah.
E
Another
three
are
a
lot
more
experienced
than
I
am,
and
you
know
the
questions
they
brought
to
the
table.
It
was
pretty
good,
I
mean
I
think
we
challenged
challenged
them
pretty.
Well,
they
challenged
us,
so
we
got
some
good
feedback.
That's
included
in
my
report
in
my
minutes.
The
other
piece
that
we
did
is.
We
then
said:
okay,
based
on
the
audit,
you
know,
as
it
relates
to
communications.
E
Let's
come
up
with
some
ideas
of
what
we
think
we
is
a
cpac,
not
as
a
subcommittee,
but
we
as
a
cpac
should
be
doing
to
increase
our
communications
to
make
sure
that
we
are
a
citizens
council
and
not
just
a
group
of
people
talk
to
each
other.
So
each
of
us
put
together
a
list.
We
put
them
into
a
format
of
a
word
document.
Yeah
I
apologize
they
were.
They
were
sent
out
to
you
all.
I
guess
today
that
happens.
That's
like
everybody's
busy
and
you
know
no
worries.
E
So
what
I'd
like
everybody
to
do
is
go
through
that
list.
What
we
did
is
you
know
we
each
took
our
own
ideas
and
some
of
them
may
come
across
a
little
bit
redundant,
which
is
good,
which
means
some
of
us
are
on
the
same
training
thought
and
nothing
we're
doing
is
rocket
science
you're
going
to
look
at
our
recommendations
and
say
well
that
makes
sense
that
makes
sense.
Well,
yeah,
of
course.
So
what
I'm
going
to
ask
each
of
the
committee
members,
the
council
members
to
do
is
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
E
Take
that
report
that
bethany
set
out
today
look
at
our
recommendations
and
what
I'd
like
you
to
do
is
by
friday
the
18th,
if
you
would
send
back
to
me
I'll
I'll,
put
all
the
data
back
together.
E
So
send
me
your
comments,
your
concerns
on
whether
it's
general
or
two
specific
points,
and
then
what
I'd
like
you
to
do
is
go
through
there
and
just
put
a
number
next
to
each
of
them
is
our
priority
because
you're
going
to
see
on
there
there's
about
30
or
40
different
things
we
can't
do
30
or
40
different
things
at
once.
So
we
want
to
do
is
prioritize.
E
You
know
when,
when
we
look
at
prioritizing,
you
know
you
want
to
have
value,
so
sometimes
it's
bang
for
the
buck.
How
can
we
get
a
fast
value?
Some
of
them
may
be
more
long
term.
So,
if
you
would
prioritize
those,
then
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
collect
that
data
and
I'll
put
in
spreadsheets
and
all
that
other
nonsense.
E
I'll
share
the
results
with
the
subcommittee,
so
we
all
can
go
back
and
forth
with
it
and
then
what
I
want
to
be
able
to
do
with
with
our
next
subcommittee
meeting
is
we
all
meet
and
say,
okay,
based
on
what
the
what
the
council
has
told
us
here
are
our
priorities:
let's
develop
an
action
plan
so
that
we
can
present
an
executable
action
plan
at
the
next
meeting.
For
you
all
to
give
a
thumbs
up
or
a
thumbs
down.
I
really
we
don't
need
to
debate
for
the
next
three
years.
E
We
need
to
start
moving,
and
so
our
plan
is
to
give
you
an
execution
for
you
to
say
thumbs
up
for
thumbs
down,
and
so
I
am
asking
each
of
you.
I
know
the
next
couple
weeks
are
pretty
busy,
but
all
of
y'all
are
at
home.
So
just
take
a
few
minutes
for
me.
I
appreciate
it
probably
starting
thursday
or
friday.
E
Let's
start
next
week,
I'll
start
hounding
you,
you
know
some
people
are
going
to
be
good
at
it
better
than
others,
but
I
would
like
to
see
everybody
reply
back,
because
each
of
us
has
a
charter
from
our
representative
that
appointed
us
for
the
mirror
upon
us
to
be
involved
and
communication
is
our
number
one
priority?
Okay,
so
I'm
really
looking
at
making
sure
that
we
have
something
in
front
of
you
and
some
of
these
things
are
going
to
be
valuable
to
you.
E
I'll
give
you
an
example
of
one
I
think
a
no-brainer,
the
cpac
committee
members
should
have
a
cpac
email
rather
than
used
in
your
personal
email,
and
I
believe
in
the
digest
the
community
I'd
love
to
see
citizens
be
able
to
have
a
central
email
address
to
voice
that
concerned
us
that
each
of
us
gets
our
own
copy
of
it,
and
we
can
review
that
over
time,
rather
than
waiting
for
what
questions
come
up
in
a
meeting.
E
Okay,
so
simple
things
like
that
on
how
we
can
have
quick
bang
for
the
buck,
immediate
results
that
we
can
then
turn
around
and
provide
results.
The
other
second
highlight
you're
going
to
see
in
there
and
it's
it's
an
important
one
that
I
think
is,
in
my
opinion,
I
think
the
cpac
should
have
you
know
we
have
a
chairperson.
We
should
empower
either
our
chair
or
whether
she
designates
a
spokesperson
as
different
things.
Come
up
in
the
community
different
events
yeah,
whether
it's
a
crisis
comes
up.
You
know,
there's
a
shooting!
E
There's
this
there's
problems,
you
know
we're
a
cpac.
We
should
have
a
representative
who's
meeting
with
the
media
who's.
A
point
of
contact,
while
I
understand
that
the
department
has
their
own
communication
chair
we'd,
like
our
spokesperson
to
work
with
them,
but
we
are
not
a
voice
of
the
police
department,
we're
a
voice
of
the
citizenry
and
while
we
work
hand
in
hand,
we
need
to
be
seen
as
independent
and
also
as
a
resource
so
that
we
can
show
that
this
is
not
just
some
closed-door
group.
That's
got
a
rubber
stamp.
E
Okay,
so
you'll
see
some
of
those
recommendations.
A
lot.
I
really
I'm,
I'm
I'm
not
begging
you,
I'm
kind
of
demanding
it.
Please
get
that
information
back
to
me
because
that's
our
job,
that's
pretty
much.
What
I
have
does
anybody
have
any
questions
for
me
or
do
any
other
subcommittee
members
want
to
jump
in
and
you
know
throw
anything
in
that
I
may
have
missed.
E
I
will
point
out
one
thing:
this
is
something
I
think
it's
communications
jerry
and
I
and
I'm
actually
gonna.
I'm
gonna
turn
on
jerry
and
put
him
on
the
spot
because
I
like
doing
it
to
jerry
jerry
and
I
actually
volunteered
to
sit
in
on
an
international
conference
call
about
a
week
ago
and
that's
communications.
I
mean
we
we're
a
resource
and
I
think
I
think
it's
amazing
I
mean
it
was
to
see
the
countries
of
people
represented
on
this
call.
The
questions
they
asked
us
was
incredible
jerry.
C
There
were
probably
about
14
to
15
folks
calling
in
from
countries
including
pakistan,
brazil,
venezuela,
rwanda,
south
africa,
spread
around
the
the
world,
many
of
them
senior
officials
in
their
governments
and
others
working
in
non-not-for-profit
or
ngo
situations,
and
basically,
what
we
did
was
describe.
C
The
history
and
function
of
cpac
talked
about
the
the
audit
and
how
it
as
a
instrument
work.
Then
we
got
into
this
discussion
about
how
and
we
responded
to
their
questions
about
concerns
regarding
oversight
and
transparency
and
policing
and
and
accountability,
and
that
for
me,
what
what
what
transpired
their
questions
force
me
at
least
to
think
about
what
we
do
in
an
international
context
and
recognize
that
the
structures
that
we
have
in
place
and
the
procedures
do
lend
to
perhaps
more
transparency
and
accountability.
C
But
there
are
areas
that
should
be
and
paul,
and
I
exchange
we
did.
We
don't
see
everything
the
same
way
and
that
came
across,
and
I
think
that
was
that
was
helpful
in
terms
of
them
folks,
getting
an
understanding
of
how
a
group
like
ours
works,
different
perspectives,
different
experiences
and
then
working
together.
Those
were
working
together
to
improve
the
outcomes
in
public
safety
and
law
enforcement.
E
Yeah,
I
think
it
was
really
important
jerry
and
I
did
see,
have
different
perspectives
on
a
lot
of
things.
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
own
that
the
two
people
can
look
at
the
same
thing
through
two
different
sets
of
glasses
and
see
two
different
things
and
it's
still
the
same
action
and
that's
happening
all
around
us.
The
other
thing
that
was
really
you
know
I
I
just
I
I've
worked
guys
on
a
particular.
E
I've
worked
around
the
world,
not
just
the
military,
the
civilian
and
I
go
to
some
of
these
countries
that
these
people
live
in,
and
you
know
some
of
the
questions
they
were
asking
us.
We
have
to
remember.
They
live
in
some
of
them
live
in
police
states,
where
the
oppression
that
they
have
you
know
they
want
to
know.
Are
our
police
going
up
and
down
the
street
beating
people
for
not
wearing
masks
or
social
dispensation?
That
was
an
actual
question
that
we
got.
E
Are
people
being
picked
up
off
the
streets
for
not
social,
distancing,
they're
related
to
covet?
We
got
asked
a
lot
about.
You
know
they
wanted
to
know
because,
where
they
live,
you
know
the
police
departments
are
also
private
militias
and
the
police.
I
know
certain
countries
I've
been
in
where
you
know
I
can
just
give
you
an
example
of
in
mexico.
E
I
knew
which
department
if
I
was,
if
I
saw
lights
behind
me,
you
know
they
have
different
police
forces.
I
knew
which
ones
to
stop
my
car
for
and
which
ones
to
my
weapon
and
be
ready
to
run
and,
and
they
all
have
police
on
the
side
of
their
car.
You
know
so
you
know
these
are
people
living
in
that
environment,
and
you
know
you
think
of
some
of
the
things
that
you
know.
People
in
our
country
are
feeling
towards
our
police
department.
E
E
I
really
really
encourage
it
and
guys
from
the
from
the
force,
if
you've
never
seen
some
of
those
types
of
police
departments
and
what
they're
dealing
with
it's
a
good
opportunity
for
you
as
well,
because
it's
really
an
eye
opener
you
sitting
in
charleston,
you
don't
learn
and
know
everything
about
policing
go
to
one
of
those
countries
and
you'll
see
the
opposite
side
of
it.
So
it's
a
learning
experience
for
everybody
and
I
really
appreciate
you
know
being
involved
in
that
it
was
a
great
and
it
was.
E
A
Thank
you
paul
for
you
and
jerry
sharing
that
with
us.
That
was
as
a
result
of
the
email
that
I
sent
out
to
everyone.
We
got
a
request
to
see
if
any
of
us
would
be
able
to
participate,
and
fortunately,
paul
and
jerry
were
able
to
join
in
and
share
on
that
call,
and
I'm
really
happy
you
were
able
to
share
with
us
some
feedback
from
that
call.
A
So
we
see
that
all
over
the
all
over
our
world
people
are
having
the
same
concerns
that
we
are
having
here
in
charleston,
and
so
we,
this
is
really
the
perfect
time.
This
is
the
right
time
to
be
able
to
make
things
happen.
So
thank
you
so
very
much
for
sharing
that
any
questions.
I
know
you
just
received
the
the
audit
points
from
the
communication
subcommittee,
but
jared
paul
was
asking.
If
you
had
any
questions,
does
anyone
have
any
questions
about
that
handout.
F
Oh,
what
is
you
have
on
the
last
page
item?
Seven
other.
You
have
establish
a
critical
incident
alert
protocol
with
the
cpd.
E
Okay,
so
what
we
this
kind
of
actually
came
from,
you
know,
I
think
we
all
think
about
it,
but
it
one
of
the
departments
that
we
were
working
with.
I
think,
if
I'm
not
wrong,
I
think
it
was
portland.
E
They
actually
have
kind
of
like
a
spokesperson,
so
they've
got
an
emergency
response
team
within
their
advisory
group,
so
that
you
know,
let's
just
let's
just
use
the
hypothetical
of
a
shooting.
Okay,
there's
an
officer-related
shooting
citizen.
You
have
civil
rights
or
whatever,
okay,
so,
rather
than
you
know,
we
meet
every
two
or
three
months
right.
What
this
is
is
having
a
team
of
reactionary,
so
two
or
three
members
of
the
the
council
who
are
able
to
you
know
have
a
call.
E
You
know,
have
coordination
with
the
police
department
to
be
able
to
say
hey
this
happened.
I
think
you
want
to
correct
me
from
wrong,
but
I
think
what
the
guys
said
is
you
know
they
help
fashion
some
of
the
communications
that
go
out
to
press
releases
so
that
you
know
if
something
happened,
that
cheap
you
know,
his
team
needs
to
send
out
a
press
release
the
community.
They
run.
It
by
their
version
the
cpac
to
make
sure
the
wording.
E
You
know
it's
more,
you
know
how
is
the
community
going
to
react
because
remember
they're,
looking
at
things
from
their
perspective
and
it's
not
a
bad
idea
to
have
we're
not
a
devil's
advocate,
but
we
can.
We
can
give
a
different
perspective.
Okay,
you
know.
So
it
doesn't
look
like
we
don't
want
their
communication
to
look
like
they're
on
the
defensive,
so
we
can
help
them
fashion
communication.
E
That's
a
quick
response.
It's
not
us
going
on
the
scene
of
whatever
happened,
it's
us
being
a
media
resource
and
saying:
okay.
Yes,
we
do
know
about
it.
You
know
we
are
informed
about
it.
You
know
as
an
advisory
group,
we
take
that
under
advisement.
You
know,
here's
our
involvement
in
these
things
and
helping
his
department
work
on
their
communications,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
what
we
meant
by
critical
incident
alert
protocol.
F
Okay,
so
basically
cpac
would
would
have
under
under
the
chairman's
open
site,
but
we'd
have
a
group
of
one
or
two
or
three
people
whatever
who
would
be
on
a
situ
in
a
situation
like
that,
have
you
we'd
be
able
to
give
as
a
voice
of
the
citizens
a
unbiased
and
unpresidential
president
pressure.
I
can't
talk
anymore
yeah.
Thank
you
too
many
glasses
of
wine.
No,
no,
no,
that's
not
it,
but
we
would
be
able
to
provide
a
for
the
citizens
point
of
view
because
we're
not
on
the
police
department.
F
We
have
no
oversight,
we're
an
advisory
group
of
individuals
appointed
by
respected
people
in
the
community
and
on
the
council.
So
that's
I
was
hoping
that's
the
way
I
was
reading
that
yeah.
It
would
be
something
of
that
nature
because
again
I
borrowed
my
23
years
in
the
american
legion.
We
and
we
have
that
in
our
districts
we
have
20
districts
in
the
state.
F
Besides
the
district
commander
and
the
adjutant
there's
one
other
person
that
can
speak
for
that
district
if
an
event
occurs
of
any
usually
I
was
not
confrontational
or
you
know
anything
of
that
nature,
but
we
want
to
get
it
to
the
media
and
you
know
sometimes
you
have
to
the
media
sensationalizes
a
lot
of
things.
We
all
know
that
they
can
jump
from
a
to
z,
real
quick,
skipping,
24
letters.
E
Just
show
that
we're
a
living
breathing
thing
we're
not
just
some
a
group
every
couple
of
months.
You
know
we're
not
here
again
we're
not
here
in
oversight,
and
so
it's
not
something
we're
going
to
communicate
that
hey
we're
going
to
go
investigate
that
on
behalf
of
the
citizens.
We
don't
do
that,
but.
I
Paul
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
this
you're
saying
that
there's
a
critical
incident,
something
happens,
a
shooting
or
whatever,
and
all
of
us
are
involved
in
a
shooting,
and
we,
the
citizens,
police
council,
are
going
to
look
at
that
and
we're
going
to
put
something
in
writing
about
how
we
look
at
that.
From
a
citizen's
point
of
view.
Is
that
correct.
E
No,
no,
I
I
apologize
if
that's
talking
across
now.
What
we
want
to
do
is
we
want
to
let
I
think
the
goal
would
be
you
know
any
of
the
subcommittee
members
can
correct
me.
What
we
want
to
be
able
to
do
is
say,
hey
we're
we're
kind
of
your
representatives.
You
know
we're
here.
C
So
my
sense
of
it
is
one
if
there
is
a
critical
incident
that
there's
a
process
by
which
the
police
department
gets
the
members
of
the
council
information
in
a
fashion,
so
that
if
we
get
questioned
all
right,
we
at
least
have
the
base.
The
basic
information.
That's
one
function.
C
The
other
function
can
be
if
the
police
department
feels
comfortable
and
or
feels
a
need
to
have,
as
paul
suggests,
some
input
in
terms
of
wording
and
communication
and
validation
that
we're
in
a
position
to
do
that.
That
would
be
the
small
working
group,
but
my
my
interest
in
seeing
that
the
council
is
informed
when
there
is
an
incident
all
right
that
perhaps
might
be
of
some
some
major
concern
for
the
community
and
that
we're
in
a
position
to
to
be
informed.
J
I
What
I
was
hearing
was,
it
sounded
almost
like
we
would
be
taking
a
position
if
something
we
put
out
is
contrary
to
what
the
officer
says.
We're
going
to
have
a
friction.
We're
going
to
have
a
lawyer
on
one
side,
saying
that
your
counsel
says
the
officer
did
something
wrong
or
didn't
do
something
right.
You
know
I'm
very
leery
of
anything
that
we
put
out.
E
Of
of
we're,
not
an
investigative
we're
not
here,
to
give
our
opinion
we're
here
to
be
receivers
of
information
to.
Let
them
know
that
we,
you
know
we.
There
is
a
purpose
why
we
exist.
We
were
created
for
that
purpose
and
I
think
what
jerry
pointed
out.
So
you
know
a
little
bit
yeah
more
around.
Why
it
was
created.
Is
incidents
happen
between
our
meetings
and
a
lot
of
times.
E
K
Hey
excuse
me,
this
is
matt
awesome.
I
was
sort
of
curious
about
how
you
all
envisioned
that
work
and
I'm
still
new
to
this.
I
was
just
like
you
know.
K
If
an
incident
occurs,
how
are
we
all
envisioning
and
when
are
they
when
are
the?
When
does
the
police
department
supposed
to
share
information
with
us?
I
just
wonder
about
ongoing
investigations
and
you
know
the
timing
of
it
all
and
what
rises
the
level
of
what
they're
gonna
they
need
to
talk
to
us
about.
Like
I
just
I'm
curious
what
the
criteria
is.
A
Okay,
matt,
let
me
jump
in
what
and
actually
we're
going
to
hear
some
of
that
later
on
on
tonight's
agenda,
where
the
chief
is
going
to
give
us
a
give
us
some
updates
on
where,
where
they
are,
with
the
the
after
action
report
from
the
incident
that
happened
on
may
30th
and
31st.
A
We
want
to
make
sure
that
involved
in
that
protocol
is
included
that,
if
they're
putting
out
a
public
statement
to
the
you
know
to
the
citizens,
to
the
community
at
large
that
they
have
the
ability
to
share
that
statement,
maybe
with
the
members
of
cpac.
So
we
could
give
them
an
idea
on
what
the
community
how
the
community
might
interpret
what
they're
saying
many
times.
We
think
just
like
right
now,
I'm
listening
and
we
think
we're
saying
one
thing,
but
it
comes
across
as
meaning
something
different.
E
A
Any
other
thanks,
thank
you
paul
and
jerry
and
matt
any
other
questions
that
we
have
thanks,
frank
and
joe
for
bringing
those
those
items
up
too.
Any
other
questions
you
have
for
the
list
and,
of
course,
if
you
have
any
questions
following
the
meeting,
please
feel
free
to
get
in
touch
with
paul
he's.
The
chairman
for
the
communications
subcommittee
and
the
other
members
of
the
committee
are
jerry
harris.
D
I
just
have:
I
just
have
one
concern
listening
to
this
and
this
this
is
a
very,
very,
very
sticky
area.
It
reminds
me
of
the
kids
party
game
gossip
when
you
pass
information
from
one
person
to
the
next
to
the
next
to
the
next
guess.
To
the
end,
it
resembles
absolutely
nothing
that
it
started
with
so
accuracy
in
this
situation
has
got
to
be
100
and
when
we
start
passing
information
from
our
our
committee
to
the
to
the
public
to
the
citizens
and
they
in
turn
pass
it
on
and
the
media
gets
involved.
A
Thanks
hank
and
I
think
really
the
the
disconnect
is
many
of
many
of
us
on
tonight's
call
have
not
gotten
a
chance
to
read
through
the
actual
recommendations
and
paul
was
trying
to
summarize
them
I'll
put
them
in
a
little
nutshell
to
share,
but
there's
a
lot
of
information
there.
So
again,
as
paul
asked,
please
take
a
look
at
the
recommendations
that
you
receive
today
and
and
bounce
them
against.
A
The
audit
points
that
wendy
sent
us
previously
from
the
brief
that
she
gave
us
back
in
our
october
meeting
and
please
send
back
to
paul
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks
your
prioritization
for
the
items
that
are
listed
there.
There
are
seven
categories
that
are
listed,
so
if
you
would
please
look
at
those
things,
a
lot
of
good
work
there,
just
as
with,
as
we've
already
heard
with
the
traffic
stop
committee.
D
I
agree
100
and
I'm
not
questioning
anything
that
was
on
that
communications
report,
but
it's
obvious
as
we
look
across
the
board
here
this
afternoon
or
this
evening,
that
they're
we're
not
interpreting
this
100
exactly
and
when
we
put
this
thing
into
action,
it's
got
to
be
right.
It's
got
to
be
perfect.
E
E
You
guys
go
through
there.
This
is
this
is
not
our
executable
plan.
This
are
recommendations
that
came
up.
Some
are
good
and
some
are
bad.
You
know
well,
none
were
bad.
All
of
them
are
have
good
intent,
but
they
may
not
be
in
line
with
what
we
all
want
to
do,
which
is
why
I'm
asking
for
your
feedback
and
then
your
prioritization.
E
We
will
then
come
back
with
an
action
plan
for
the
and
say:
okay
guys,
thumbs
up
or
thumbs
down,
but
here's
our
plan
of
action.
Then
we
move
towards
the
execution
of
that.
This
will
also
be
the
opportunity
for
you
now
that
the
chief
has
seen
a
copy
of
this
and
everything
else
they're
allowed
to
give
feedback
as
well,
because
they're
part
of
our
council
and-
and
you
know
guys
in
uniform.
I
do
expect
your
feedback
too.
A
F
I
I
agree
a
lot
with
what's
being
said,
and
I
think
hacked
on
point,
but
I'm
not
too
sure
that
establishing
a
critical
incident
alert
protocol
with
cpd
to
me.
He
simply
says
we
will
be
alerted
by
cpd
with
their
information
and
their
perception
of
what
they're
reporting
on
we're,
not
investigating
anything
we're
not
going
to
distribute
the
information.
F
But
if
we
at
some
point
down
this
yellow
brick
road
that
we're
going
get
to
a
point
that
we
have
organizations
that
will
call
paul
or
me
or
you
and
say,
hey
you,
what
is
what's
going
on.
Do
you
know
what's
happening?
We
would
then
have
the
information
that
had
been
provided
to
us
by
the
police
department
to
say.
Okay,
the
latest
information
I
have
is
there
has
been
a
robbery
at
boom
boom
boom
boom
boom.
That's
it
that's
all.
F
We
can
tell
them
we're
not
going
to
sit
there
and
say
and
there's
12
officers
on
site
and
we're
loading
ammunition.
We're
not
going
to
go
through
all
that
and
that's
the
way
I
looked
at
it.
It's
simply
a
protocol
where
we
receive
information
from
cpd
and
then
you
know
we're
not
going
to
go
publicize
information.
That's
not
our
job,
we're
the
voice
of
the
citizens.
So
if
a
citizen,
my
neighbor,
comes
to
me
and
says,
hey,
I
understand
you
on
cpac.
F
F
Personally,
I
think
it's
a
good
tool,
because
it'll
kind
of
brings
everything
down
a
little
bit
and
it
doesn't
allow
it
to
continually
bubble
over
out
the
pot,
because
that's
where
you
get
all
the
innuendos
and
suspicions
and
nobody's
doing
nothing-
and
you
know
my
cousin
was
there
and
a
friend
of
my
cousin
saw
this
and
you
know
and
pretty
soon
you
got
may
again
people
burning
stuff
in
the
street
running
in
and
out
busting
windows.
So
I
mean.
F
A
You
thanks
joe,
when
we
cl
we
clearly
recognize.
The
communication
subcommittee
was
clearly
looking
at
that
and
recognizes
the
fact
that
we
need
to
have
a
proper
flow
for
communications
to
ensure
that
we
get
to
working.
We
really
start
to
working
on
the
reason
for
which
this
council
was
organized,
which
is
to
work
on
harmonious
relationships
between
the
community
and
the
police
department.
A
Okay
thanks
again
paul
and
everybody
for
your
input.
Let's
go
to
the
policy
and
procedures
subcommittee.
I
know
again,
your
agenda
shows
that
max
would
be
giving
the
presentation,
but,
as
I
explained
at
the
beginning,
max
had
an
fire
incident
happen.
He
is
safe
and
unharmed,
but
unable
to
be
with
us
tonight,
and
so
jerry
jerome
harris
is
a
member
of
that
subcommittee
as
well,
and
he
willingly
accepted
to
present
on
the
subcommittee's
behalf.
C
Sure
so
the
committee's
response,
subcommittee's
responsibility
was
to
the
priority,
was
to
review
the
changes
that
have
been
made
in
the
complaint
procedure.
Captain
cortela
actually
provided
us
with
a
powerpoint
to
review
the
overall
review
policy,
how
the
department
proceeds
in
terms
of
reviewing
policy
and
again
in
this
theme
of
communication
in
the
current
procedure
and
process,
there
is
not
a
a
role
baked
into
it
for
cpac
to
be
involved
in
an
existing
process
in
the
annual
reviewer
process.
C
So
one
of
the
recommendations
is
for
the
department
to
think
about
how
it
might
integrate
cpac
into
that.
That
may
simply
be,
you
know,
coming
providing
information
to
a
subcommittee
or
others,
but
again
for
them
to
think
about
making
us
into
that.
The
department
is
certified
by
kalia
a
national
accreditation
of
law
enforcement
agencies.
It's
a
gold
standard.
If
you
will
we're
one
of
the
relatively
few
departments
in
the
state
of
south
carolina
that
is
accredited.
C
C
We
raised
the
question
whether
or
not
inside
the
clear
standards
are
there
standards
or
metrics
that
speak
to
community
policing,
relations
or
citizens
review?
Is
that
already
baked
into
that
and
what
they
might
be,
because
the
department
would
have
to
in
fact
respond
to
the
oversight
committee
of
kalia
and
satisfy
that
they're
in
place
and
raise
the
question:
what
is
the
role
if
any,
or
should
there
be
a
role
for
cpac
again,
this
links
back
to
communications
in
as
part
of
the
clear
reaccreditation
process
the?
C
Finally,
we
we
talked
about
the
there
was
partial
powerpoint
presentation
describing
the
updated
complaint
procedure
that
has
been
in
place
and
since
march,
and
we
talked
about,
they
were
presented,
what
those
changes
have
been,
and
we
suggested
that
this
is
a
good
place
for
us
to
get
a
sense
of
you
know.
What's
the
feedback
what's
happened
as
a
result
with
difference
and
changes?
Are
there
more
a
few
complaints?
Is
the
process
working
for
the
department?
Is
it
working
for
the
community?
C
It's
too
soon
to
know
so
we
laid
that
out,
and
then
there
was
a
discussion
of
the
current
activities
in
the
procedures
in
the
complaint
area.
C
But
again
here
is
a
an
example
where
it's
really
about
how
much
information,
how
much
communication
and
how
can
cpap
be
helpful
to
the
department
and
being
a
bridge
to
the
community
around
these
procedural
and
process
points.
C
So
that's
the
report
and
the
recommendations.
The
way
we
laid
it
out
the
observations
with
what
we
thought
we
heard
and
the
recommendations
are
for
discussion
points
for
the
department
to
consider,
as
they
continue
to
move
forward.
A
Thank
you
jerry,
so
anyone
has
any
questions
for
the
policy
procedures
subcommittee,
jerry
jerry.
I've
got
one
so
with
the
recommendation.
Consider
modification
of
the
process
to
provide
for
cpac
and
our
community
review
comment
once
that,
once
that
was
shared
when
the
policy
review
process
was
shared,
what
what
was
the
feedback.
C
C
And
to
to
you
to
to
joe's
point
early,
this
is
again
a
situation
of
establishing
a
protocol
all
right
about
how
this
piece
of
communication
would
happen
between
the
department
and
the
cpac
and
or
the
community,
depending
on
what
makes
the
most
sense
in.
In
terms
of
that.
A
Thank
you
so
so,
then,
that
also
captain
cortela
and
jerry
that
also
carries
through
then
at
the
clear
standards
and
the
and
the
complaint
policy.
C
A
A
B
C
In
a
time
frame
for
making
it
happen
all
right,
because
right
because
you
outline
them
and
say
we
want
to
put
it
in
place,
the
the
data
collection,
the
information
sharing,
the
feedback
loops.
All
of
this
takes
time
and
resources
and
right.
A
C
G
Kulea,
incorporation,
a
partnership
with
us,
that's
an
easy
one
to
fulfill.
We
can
do
that
sooner
rather
than
later
and
same
with
our
complaint
data.
When
mr
harris
spoke
of
it,
the
chief
and
I
have
already
had
a
plan
in
place.
It
should
be
done
by
the
end
of
this
year.
G
Actually,
it'll
be
updated
quarterly
starting
next
year,
so
that's
moving
relatively
quickly
and
the
last
one
is
a
policy
piece
and
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out
the
best
way
to
involve
cpac
in
that
we
have
a
few
suggestions,
but
we'll
probably
meet
with
the
subcommittee
just
to
give
our
proposal
and
see
if
that
is
within
their
interpretation
of
what
you
want
to
propose.
But
that
will
also
happen,
but
the
other
two
will
happen.
Obviously
a
lot
quicker,
because
those
are
an
easy
lift.
If
you
will.
F
Yeah
that
last
recent
work
to
improve
complaint
procedures.
F
I
know
that
it's
just
a
suggestion.
This
is
on
the
table.
I
certainly
think
that
cpac
should
play
a
role,
but
as
an
advisor
to
establishing
priorities
for
review
and
revisions
of
policies,
because
we
have
to,
as
you
just
said,
and
the
chairman
said,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
maintain
the
mission
statement
of
this
council
and
that
is
to
be
the
voice
of
the
people,
so
we
shouldn't
say
we're
setting
we're
playing
a
role
in
setting
priorities,
we're
not
going
to
set
the
priorities.
We
can't
tell
you
to
do
that.
F
F
I
just
don't.
I
just
don't
want
to
hit
myself
in
a
corner.
C
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
clarify
I
could,
when
both
captain
cortela
and
and
wendy,
and
the
chief
talk
about
how
many
policies
and
procedures
there
are.
Okay,
there's
a
long
list.
The
the
standard
is,
the
recommendation
in
the
audit
was
that
they
all
be
reviewed
annually.
That's
not
happening
all
right,
so
the
the
notion
of
setting
priorities
was,
you
know,
which
are
most
important.
You
know,
chief,
what
do
you
think
is
important
all
right,
so
helping
kind
of
kind
of
help
prioritize
in
terms
of
order.
C
F
And
I
appreciate
the
detail
on
that
because
you're
absolutely
correct
and
that's
where
I
think
cpac
plays
a
vital
role
with
cpd
and
that
once
we
are
in
the
communities
once
we're
talking
to
the
people
in
the
communities
and
they're
talking
back
to
us,
then
we
can
certainly
sit
down
with
those
bodies
at
cpt
who
cbd
who
are
going
to
be
looking
at
this
enormous
list
of
applications
that
they
have
to
look
at
and
discuss
and
say.
Well,
you
know
they're
not
really
worried
about
this
they're
really
concerned
about
this
and
back
and
forth.
A
Thank
you
any
other
questions
or
sharing
for
policy
procedures
subcommittee
jerry.
Thank
you
very
much
for
providing
that
report,
so
lots
of
good
work.
Now
you
see
why
I
was
excited
right
lots
of
good
work
from
the
subcommittee's
going
on.
I
think
we're
really
on
the
right
track.
Chief.
What
do
you
think.
A
All
right,
all
right,
we
now
down
at
the
update
section.
Captain
thompson
has
helped
us
out
tremendously.
He
has
contacted
mr
david
crosby
who's,
the
data
integrations
and
analysis
manager
for
the
police
department
and
he's
actually
on
our
call
tonight
to
share
with
us
the
crime
analysis
unit
update
mr
crosby
david.
L
Thank
you
guys
for
having
me.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
and
your
engagement
with
us,
so
I
think
what
I'll
probably
do-
and
you
know
definitely
open
up
to
any
questions
that
you
have
is
we'll
probably
just
go
over
a
quick
overview
of
kind
of
like
what
our
analysis
unit
does.
You
know
how
we
pull
things
together.
L
Maybe
some
you
know
examples
of
some
of
the
products
that
we
put
out
what
they're
used
for
and
then
maybe
get
into
a
couple
of
the
the
audit
findings
and
some
of
our
complications
there
and
what
we're
working
to
kind
of
like
get
past
those
issues
that
we're
having
so
with.
That
being
said,
you
know,
as
they
mentioned,
I
manage
our
crime
analysis
unit.
Some
of
our
analysts
are
specifically
you
know:
data
driven.
We
pretty
much
supplement
all
operations
of
the
department.
L
We
basically
just
try
to
leverage
our
data
to
improve
the
quality
of
service.
To
you
know
the
citizens
in
our
city
we
kind
of
do
that
by
gathering
cleaning,
compiling
visualizing
and
disseminating
statistical
and
analytical
products
to
our
officers,
our
command
staff
city
entities
and,
ultimately,
our
citizens
as
well.
We
do
that
a
number
of
ways,
the
easiest
one
to
explain
and
the
one
that
I
think
most
of
you
are
probably
most
familiar
with-
is
kind
of
our
operational
analysis.
L
You
know
this
tends
to
be
your
your
weekly
crime
statistics.
You
know
where
we
see
where
our
you
know
our
burglary
is
where
our
arrests
are
it's
the
kind
of
things
that
we
kind
of
use
as
our
litmus
test
and
our
gauge
to
see
where
we
might
have
trends
and
problems
occurring.
L
A
perfect
example
of
this
and
I'm
not
sure,
what's
been
shared
here
before
so
I
apologize,
if
I'm
kind
of
you
know
rehashing
some
of
this,
but
our
opstat
report,
which
is
actually
published
on
our
charleston
website.
So
you
can
actually
get
a
copy
of
this
report
that
goes
to
our
command
staff
every
week.
This
breaks
down
kind
of
our
our
our
part,
one
crimes
which
is
ag
assaults,
homicides,
robberies,
rape,
burglary,
breaking
entering
theft
for
motor
vehicle
drug
violations,
weapon
law
violations.
L
This
report
looks
at
all
those
data
types.
We
look
at
weekly
so
what
we
had
that
last
week,
we
have
month
to
date
quarter
date
year
to
date,
five
year
trend,
so
it
kind
of
gives
us
that
area
of
what
we're
working
with,
and
it
also
gives
us
a
projection.
It's
also
in
there
for
city-wide,
and
then
we
break
it
down
by
teams
which
is
kind
of
like
our
precincts
and
even
within
those
teams.
L
We
have
a
graphical
representation
of
our
different
beats
and
then
those
beats
will
actually
change
in
color,
based
on
where
the
most
crime
is.
So
it's
a
very
quick
overview
for
our
command
staff
to
kind
of
just
see,
you
know
where
we
are,
where
we're
going.
Are
we
seeing
spikes?
Where
are
these
problem
areas
and
and
what
that
does
that
kind
of
gets
us
to
our
next
piece,
which
is
kind
of
our
strategic
analysis?
L
When
we
do
see
these
spikes
or
we
see
things
that
start
to
become
an
outlier
or
we
see
things
that
are
a
little
bit
abnormal.
You
know,
then
we'll
start
getting
into
trend
analysis.
So
we'll
look
at
you
know,
time
of
day
hot
spots
again
anything
unusual
and
we
try
to
come
up
with
strategies
so
that
we
can
kind
of
put
things
in
place
and
kind
of
direct
our
limited
resources
to
kind
of
take
care
of
the
emerging
trends
that
are
becoming
a
problem,
so
that's
kind
of
our
strategic
part
of
it.
L
Another
huge
part
is
management
and
administrative.
You
know,
obviously,
on
a
couple
of
levels:
you
know
you'll
constantly
hear
data
people
say
garbage
and
garbage
out.
So
we
have
a
number
of
reports
that
we
pull
together,
that
look
to
make
sure
that
things
are
being
done
correctly
and
consistently,
because
it's
kind
of
hard
to
do
analysis
on
numbers
and
data
if
everyone
or
the
large
majority
aren't
doing
things
the
exact
same
way,
and
so,
if
we
identify
deficiencies
there,
you
know,
if
it's
a
small
number,
we
can
do
one-on-one
training.
L
If
it's
a
larger
number,
then
we
can
put
it
in
in
yearly
training.
You
know
to
shore
that
up
so
that's
some
of
the
management.
We
also
do
officer
stats.
These
kind
of
things
allow
us
to
see
if,
if
certain
officers
are
kind
of
like.
L
Can
kind
of
look
at
that?
You
know.
Is
it
a
good
thing?
Is
it
a
bad
thing?
Is
the
right
reason
the
wrong
reason,
so
it's
just
checks
and
balances
in
there
for
everybody
in
the
entire
department.
This
also
allows
us
to
do
some
data
integrity.
You
know
just
to
make
sure
again
that
we're
capturing
what
we
need,
how
we
need
to,
and
so
that
kind
of
that's
a
very
broad,
quick
overview
of
of
just
the
basics
of
the
unit.
L
I
heard
that
there
was
also
some
questions
just
kind
of
like
you
know
the
major
systems
that
we
get
our
information
from
and
how
we
get
that
information.
I
would
say
that
our
four
biggest
systems
are
the
ones
that
you're
probably
going
to
get
90
of
your
data
from
obviously
rms
our
records
management
system.
That's
where
all
of
our
arrest
and
incident
data
goes
into.
L
You
also
have
a
cad
system,
which
is
that
consolidated
dispatch
is
not
owned
or
operated
by
us,
but
we
do
have
direct
feeds
to
that
information.
So
that
would
be
all
your
911
calls.
The
next
piece
of
this
is,
we
use
a
state
system
for
our
electronic
citations.
L
So
that's
going
to
be
your
accidents,
your
tickets
and
your
warnings,
that's
owned,
operated
and
maintained
by
the
state.
We
do
not
have
a
direct
connection
to
that
data
set.
We
get
that
data
through
an
xml
dump
into
an
ftp
server
that
we
then
have
to
pull
the
files
down
and
ingest
into
a
local
database
so
that
one's
a
little
bit
complicated
and
then
the
last
one
of
those
is
kind
of
a
big
one.
Is
our
our
camera
server?
That's
actually
hosted
in
the
cloud
it's
on
azure.
L
We
do
have
a
direct
connection
to
that
data
set,
but
we
don't
actually
directly
maintain
it
or
admit
it.
So
we
have
to
get
you
know,
access
to
the
pieces
that
we
need.
So
what
we're
having
to
do
today
to
get
a
number
of
these
reports
that
you're,
seeing
and
answer
a
lot
of
these
questions
that
are
coming
up
is
is
call
on
four
different
systems
and
four
geographical
locations,
admin
by
four
different
groups
into
a
common
format
clean
it
up.
L
So
that
is
the
same
data
type
and
making
sure
that
it's
consistent
and
accurate
so
that
we
can
put
out
a
product
that
answers
your
questions
specifically
going
into
the
audit.
L
J
L
Audit,
some
of
the
the
biggest
or
the
easiest
way
for
me
to
explain
it
is
anytime.
You
want
two
systems
to
talk
or
you're
wanting
to
do
analysis
across
two
or
three
systems.
There
needs
to
be
a
common
identifier,
so
that
I
can
know
that
when
this
call
came
into
cad
or
to
the
911
center,
it
ultimately
resulted
in
this
report
or
this
fcc
that's
in
our
rms
system,
and
I
also
want
to
know
if
that
resulted
in
a
citation.
L
I
need
to
have
some
sort
of
way
to
link
each
one
of
those
data
sets
together.
There
are
clean
ways
to
do
that.
There
are
ways
that
you
can
get
some
of
it,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
overly
accurate
or
consistent
and
then
there's
best
practices
in
the
ways
that
you
do
it
so
you're
getting.
You
know
a
true
consistent.
L
You
know
bulk
of
that
data.
You
want
it
to
be
as
accurate
as
possible.
Some
of
our
limitations
there
is.
We
don't
have
a
common
identifier
across
those
three
sets,
but
I
will
say
that
we've
been
in
active
discussion
and
we've
actually
made
a
lot
of
progress
to
where
we're
trying
to
get
the
state
to
add
a
form
field
in
their
system,
we're
going
to
add
one
into
our
rms
system
and
then
that
identifier
already
exists
in
our
cad
system.
L
L
But
as
the
audit
stated,
even
when
we
get
to
that
point
that
we
can
finally
connect
those
dots
you're
still
going
to
be
almost
a
year
before
you're
able
to
actually
do
any
meaningful
analysis,
because
then
you
have
to
get
the
data
and
it's
this
isn't
something
we
can
apply
historically
in
any
way.
So
it's
going
to
be
from
the
day.
We
can
finally
turn
this
on
make
this
happen.
L
So
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
time,
because
I
know
you
guys
have
a
lot
to
talk
about
so
I'll
kind
of
leave.
It
open
to
questions
that
any
of
you
all
have,
because
I'm
sure
that
you
you
have
some.
L
So
it's
the
year
is
just
a,
I
don't
want
to
say
arbitrary,
but
it's
kind
of
a
metric
that,
once
you
have
those
pieces
in
place-
and
I
hope
those
pieces
are
in
place
significantly
faster
than
a
year-
we're
kind
of
going
through.
You
know,
there's
a
cost
association
to
adding
those
fields.
I've
already
got
the
what
it
would
cost
and
the
stuff
in
place
for
the
state
and
I'm
working
on
our
rms
vendor,
and
then
it's
just
a
matter
of.
L
What's
the
cost
funding
it
and
then
implementation,
so
we're
just
kind
of
working
through
that.
I'm
hoping
that
is
a
you
know
less
than
two
to
three
month
process
you
know
and
then
from
there
once
it's
in
place
to
get
meaningful
analysis
would
be
a
year
from
that
point.
If
that
makes
sense,
because
you're
just
you're
getting
enough
data
to
do
the
analysis,
so
I
could
I
could
after
a
week
I
could
give
you
analysis
of
a
week,
but
that
sample
size
just
isn't
going
to
be
a
proper
representation
of
what
we
do.
A
The
the
thought,
the
thought
of
the
perception
of
discriminatory
practices
and
data
is
the
only
thing
that
can
be
used
to
to
help
with
proving
one
way
or
the
other,
and
we're
saying
that
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
have
data
in
a
presentable
format
or
without
manipulation.
J
Correct
baby,
can
I
jump
in
there
real,
quick,
yep,
hey
everybody,
just
real,
quick,
one
of
the
things
dave
is
talking
about
is
for
a
year
that's
to
be
able
to
identify
any
trends
or
or
patterns,
or
anything
like
that.
That
might
be
in
the
data.
What
do
what
the
critical
part
is
that
we
were
missing
that
we
saw
in
the
audit
and
that
com
identifying
that
common
field
across
the
platforms
we
can
immediately.
J
Once
we
get
that
there,
then
we
can
start
immediately
doing
some
quality
control
and
that's
really,
where
we're
kind
of
missing
some
gaps
there.
If
you
look
back
at
the
audit
and
they're
saying
well,
the
data
is
not
there.
It
can't
be
used
in
this
way
once
we
get
that
that
field
in
place,
which,
like
david,
said,
hopefully
a
couple
months
at
the
most
we're
already
working
on
some
things,
that'll
be
sooner
than
that.
J
Hopefully
then
it'll
give
us
the
ability
to
start
doing
that
quality
control
which
gives
us
that
high
quality
data
and
then
start
looking
at
trends
along
the
way.
So
it
sounds
like
a
year
is
a
big
deal.
Well,
that
is,
if
we're
looking
at
the
patterns
and
trends
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
the
quality
control
is
really
where
the
key
part
is
and
allow
us
to
address
some
things
in
a
much
more
much
quicker
manner
in
producing
a
better
product.
Overall,
that
kind
of
helped
clarify
a
little
bit.
A
Yeah,
I
was
thinking
I
was
really
thinking
the
same
thing.
It's
just
that.
Excuse
me.
The
concern
is
that
we've
had
all
of
this
time
where
the
citizens
have
been
complaining.
Now,
not,
you
know
not
lodging
their
complaint
with
the
police
department
through
the
proper
channels,
but
saying
out
in
the
community
their
their
concern
of
what
they
see,
but
you
we're
saying
we
won't
be
able
to
have
some
data
to
actually
show
whether
what
what
we
think
we
see
is
fact
or
of
what
we
think
we
see
is
just
a
a
certain
isolated
condition.
H
I
I've
been
intentionally
reserving
because
I
want
to
listen
more
and
talk
less,
I
think
that's
our
role
mainly
is
to
listen,
but
I
will
insert
no
matter
how
good
our
data
analytics
and
there's
not
an
agency.
I
would
argue,
probably
in
this
country
who
has
mastered
this
everybody
wants
to,
but
I
challenge
you
to
find
an
agency
who
has
mastered
this
data
analytics
and
this
conversation
around
bias
around
race
around
all
these
data
sets.
H
I'm
I've
not
met
anybody
yet,
and
I'm
sure
maybe
there's
somebody
in
the
country
who
has
interconnected
every
one
of
these
data
sets
and
is
doing
what
we're
trying
to
do,
but
even
when
we
do
accomplish
it,
and
we've
said
from
day
one
with
this
audit,
we
have
to
embrace
the
conversation
we
have
to
embrace
this.
This
data
conversation
is
only
one
of
many
related
to
this
topic.
H
Our
homicides
are
double
what
they
were
the
same
time.
Last
year,
we
have
a
lot
of
significant
challenges
that
we
have,
and
if
you
look
at
that
by
race,
there's
over
representation
in
in
the
african-american
community,
where
these
shootings
are
occurring,
who's
being
shot
and
who's
doing
the
shooting,
but
we
can't
make
a
conclusion
based
on
that,
we
want
to
get
traffic,
stop
data.
We
want
to
get
field
contact
data.
H
All
these
things
are
disparate.
None
of
them
are
connected
as
as
dave
kind
of
articulated.
You
have
this
state
data
that
we
can't
even
access
that
we
can't
put
in
our
data
sets
yet
we're
overcoming
that.
But
what
we
do-
and
I
was
just
writing
this
down,
as
you
were
talking-
is
we
can
review
the
policies
we
can
review
our
body
camera
program
and
audit
it
regularly.
H
H
So
I
would
just
caution-
I
I
never
forget
when
we
implemented
a
body
camera
program
back
in
a
number
of
years
ago,
in
another
jurisdiction,
the
council
member
said
wow.
It's
a
shame
that
we
have
to
have
body
cameras
and
technology
to
have
trust
with
our
communities,
and
I-
and
we
all
had
a
big
conversation
around
that
and
said.
If
that's
the
only
reason-
and
the
only
way
we
can
have
trust
is
because
we
now
have
a
body
camera
program,
then
we
have
much
bigger
problems
right,
because
it's
really
one
contact
at
a
time.
H
One
call
at
a
time
as
we
build
these
relationships
as
we
build
this
dialogue
what's
coming
out.
Is
it's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
complexity
around
this
and
it's
it's
it's
the
role
of
this
council
to
continue
to
challenge
us
to
to
be
prickly.
To
have
these
conversations,
I
promise
you.
This
is
exactly
where
I
believe
we
need
to
be
and
where
we'll
make
the
greatest
progress,
but
I
just
caution
over
reliance
on
a
technology
on
a
data
set.
H
It's
the
entire
thing
that
I
think
is
going
to
get
us
to
a
better
place
and
we
need
to
be
in
a
better
place
on
so
many
different
levels.
So
I
just
I
don't
want
to
interrupt
the
data
conversation.
I
think
it's
important
that
there
continues
to
be
a
very
bright
light
shine
on
our
data,
and
this
audit
only
began
that
process
and
the
audit
cna
said
from
the
beginning.
Your
contract
does
not
give
you
much
when
it
comes
to
data.
H
We
didn't
pay
a
lot
for
this
contract
that
would
have
really
yielded
what
we
would
have
wanted.
We
all
wanted
a
lot
more
with
regards
to
data,
but,
as
david
said,
we
there's
a
lot
of
work.
We
have
to
do
to
get
a
much
clearer
picture
about
what
we're
doing
in
all
of
these
areas.
F
Anyone
else,
joe
david
yeah,
two
questions,
first
off
the
problem
that
seems
to
be
there
is
that,
are
we
talking
about
code
software
code
because
we
couldn't
be
talking
about
hardware?
So
obviously
we're
not?
We
don't
have
a
uniform
code
within.
L
It
so
what
the
problem
is,
is
you
you
have
to
have
something
that
you
can
link
data
sets
together
so
that
I
know
that
this
citation
is
100
tied
to
this
911
call
and
is
100
tied
to
this
this
incident.
The
problem
is,
you
can
have
now
one
one
call
that
never
has
an
incident.
You
know
someone
calls,
but
it
didn't
reach
the
level
of
being
an
incident.
You
know
you
might
have
had
a
traffic,
stop
that
an
officer
didn't
write
a
citation
for
that
didn't
have
an
incident.
L
You
know
those
are
all
problems
right
there,
but
you
can
start
linking
these
things
where,
if
you
have
that
common
identifier,
we
can
have
at
that
point,
the
same
number
is
occurring
in
cad,
it
occurs
on
the
citation
and
it
occurs
in
the
fcc,
and
so
now
we
can
say
that
all
three
of
those
items
are
tied
to
the
exact
same
incident.
So
I
know
what
the
outcome
was
of
that
interaction.
F
L
100,
so
it
allows
you
to
just
kind
of
see
an
entire
interaction
from
start
to
finish,
how
was
it
initiated
was
initiated
by
the
officer?
Was
it
initiated
by
someone
that
called
in
a
complaint
and
what
was
the
ultimate
outcome
as
well
with
your
demographic
information
across
all
of
that?
So
you
would
know
the
officer
you
would
know
you
know
the
the
citizen.
You
know
everything
about
that
call,
and
so
it
just
gives
you
that
that
broader
picture
to
kind
of
just
you
know,
give
you
a
better
data
set.
F
L
L
F
L
L
So
it's
on
us
as
an
agency
to
bridge
that
gap
and
get
those
pieces
together
and
the
way
we
do
that
is
asking
our
partners
to
allow
us
to
add
the
peace
that
we
need
to
make
it
work,
and
that's
kind
of
what
we're
going
through
right
now
is
to
is
to
get
those
entities
do
something
that
will
only
be
utilized
by
us
because
we
need
it.
We
want
it
and
and
just
bridging
that
gap
so
that
we
can
get
to
the
point
where
we
need
to
be.
L
Right
and
the
cost
it's
a
one-time
cost
and
it's
not
a
tremendous
cost,
but
what
all
that
is
is
you're,
paying
the
the
software
company
that
the
state
uses
for
their
citation
system
to
add
a
field
into
that
that
data
set
that
we
can
use
to
link
it
to
cad
and
then
the
same
thing
in
rms.
We're
gonna
have
our
rms
vendor,
go
in
and
add
what
we
call
a
udf,
it's
a
user
divine
field,
so
they
don't
care
what
goes
in
that
field.
We
just
tell
them.
This
is
where
it's
going
to
go.
L
It's
a
number
field
and
it's
this
many
characters.
So
that's
all
they
see
that's
what
they're
we're
paying
for
that.
One
time
cost
to
just
have
them
added
to
the
system,
and
then
that
allows
our
officer
to
continue
that
call
number
across
all
of
those
data
sets
so
that
we
can
link
them
together.
F
You
make
it
sound,
relatively
simple
when
you
say
it
that
way,
so.
A
A
A
L
M
M
I'll
be
really
I'm
watching
the
time
along
with
tuan,
so
we
want
to
give
the
chief
some
time
at
the
end,
to
talk
about
the
after
action
and
and
field
any
questions
with
that
before
I
run
down
some
of
the
things
we're
doing
it's
important
to
just
remind
everybody
that
this
is
just
not
the
community
action
team,
the
community
team.
M
You
know
this
is
something
that
the
whole
department
is
getting
involved
in,
and
I
have
a
couple
examples
of
some
areas:
some
other
areas
of
the
department
where
they're
getting
involved
like
we
want
them
to.
You
know
the
audit
showed
that
it
was
only
the
community
action
teams
doing
outreach
and
it
needs
to
be
a
top
down.
M
You
know
everybody
in
the
department
needs
to
understand
that
balanced
approach
with
you
know:
balancing
the
community
building
community
partnerships,
along
with
the
traditional
police
work,
so
I'll
run
through
a
couple
of
them
that
that
happen
in
the
month
of
november
that
we're
really
excited
about.
Obviously,
we
continue
with
the
food
drives.
Those
have
been
very
fruitful
over
the
last
month.
We
always
invite
the
whole
department
to
come
and
we
always
have
a
good
turnout
with
those.
M
The
cops,
cougars
and
kids
is
a
basketball
clinic
that
we
partner
with
north
charleston.
To
do
we
had
the
college
of
charleston
there,
the
chief
was
there
deputy
chief
walker
that
was
on
the
line
came
out.
You
know
anytime
we're
trying
to
have
that
positive
interaction
with
the
youth
or
their
their
adults
or
their
family
members.
M
You
know
it's
always
centered
around
food
sports,
something
to
get
to
to
break
that
ice,
so
we're
really
excited.
I've
challenged
the
team
to
come
up
with
new
ideas.
I
mentioned
on
the
last
call
that
we
purchased
a
basketball
goal
and
we
have
a
pickup
truck
now
that
was
given
to
us
by
our
traffic
division,
and
you
know
that's
a
pop-up
event
that
we
have
and
we're
really
excited
about
doing
some.
M
M
I
actually
got
out
to
some
other
communities
that
we
haven't
been
in
in
a
while,
I'm
out
on
daniel
island
and
then
down
in
east
bay
and
market.
We
were
able
to
take
our
command
post
out
there
and
leave
it
out
there
and
do
our
roll
calls
where
the
officers
come
in
and
check
in
and
then
stay
out
there
to.
You
know
it's
a
very
big
machine
that
draws
a
lot
of
attention
and
we
get
a
lot
of
positive
interactions
from
that.
I'm
letting
people
tour
it
and
it's
just
a
really
good
good
idea.
M
One
thing
that
has
garnered
lately
is
our
participation
with
the
latino
advisory
council
through
the
mayor's
office,
two
contacts
that
we
made
out
of
that
that
council
have
reached
out
to
us
over
the
last
couple
of
months,
and
we
were
able
to
do
our
first
and
second
now
walks
out
on
john's
island
with
hispanic
community.
M
It
kind
of
ties
into
the
partnership
project
that
we're
doing
with
the
coastal
crisis
chaplaincy
that
I've
referenced
earlier
is
getting
out
of
the
community
being
boots
on
the
ground,
no
agenda
just
being
there
with
the
community
walking
interacting
and
those
were
very
successful
out
on
john's
island,
the
latino,
the
latino
community
out.
There
really
needs
us
it's
way
out
on
john's
island,
and
these
were
two
very
welcomed
walks
with
the
community
out.
There
is
very
well
attended.
M
We
posted
some
of
our
pictures
on
social
media
if
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
those.
The
last
thing.
Well,
not
the
last
thing,
but
one
of
the
really
good
ideas
that
came
out
of
community
outreach
in
the
last
couple
of
months
is
our
good
night
lights,
that
we've
been
advertising
on
social
media.
M
Actually,
we've
already
had
one
event,
and
the
second
event
is
tonight
is
where
we
go
over
and
we
activate
our
blue
lights
at
a
certain
time
over
at
the
hospital
children's
hospital
and
we've
already
issued
out
bags
to
those
children
in
the
hospital
and
they
actually
flash
a
light
back
at
us,
and
I
just
want
to
read
one
thing:
I
got
a
quote
from
from
from
lieutenant
murray
from
from
a
family
member
and
it
just
kind
of
sums
up.
You
know
some
of
the
good
things
that
the
department
is
doing
and
this
the
quote.
M
It
says,
and
this
is
a
reference
to
good
night
lights.
It
says
my
daughter
flashed
her
light
back
back
to
you
and
was
so
touched
as
I
was
she
kept
saying
it's
like
the
fourth
of
july,
red
white
and
blue.
Then
she
asked
do
they
know
me,
I'm
sure
each
child
thought
it
was
special
and
such
a
sign
of
peace
and
hope.
Thank
you
all
so,
really
touching.
M
The
last
example
I'll
give
you
is
just
is
a
good
example
of
other
areas
of
the
department.
Thinking
about
community
outreach
and
thinking
about
building
those
partnerships
is
our
school
resource
officers.
M
They
they
work
for
captain
bruder,
who
was
talking
earlier,
helping
out
dave
crosby
with
some
of
that
explanation,
but
they've
within
the
schools.
M
They
they
call
them
discussion
circles
where
the
officers
get
with
a
small
mem
group
of
high
school
students,
and
they
have
different
topics
each
month
and
they,
you
know,
just
have
that
positive
interaction
and
they
they
learn
about
policing.
Along
with
you
know,
life
skills,
and
you
know
playing
that
mentor
role
so
that
whole
team
has
embraced
that
the
discussion
circles
that
they're
having
and
I've
been
provided
a
couple
of
examples
from
from
their
team.
Just
to
you
know,
document
those
and
keep
up
with
them.
M
So
those
are
some
really
good
things
that
we're
excited
about
in
current
now
and
in
the
future.
So
please
continue
to.
Let
me
know
you
know
the
basketball
goal
in
the
back
of
a
pickup
truck
came
from
a
community
meeting,
so
any
any
ideas
that
you
have
had
guys
have,
especially
during
covid.
We
really
appreciate
it
last
thing.
M
I'll
mention
is
jerry
and
some
other
ones
have
continued
to
remind
me
about
the
policing
101
I
did
meet
with
lequila
who's,
the
community
outreach
coordinator
after
our
last
meeting
to
just
kind
of
go
over
what
I
was
envisioning
as
she
plans
for
the
first
citizens
academy
of
the
year.
I
have
not
for
next
year
I've
not
seen
her
finalized
project,
but
she
reached
out
to
orlando
pd
to
get
that
they
have
a
complete
online
virtual
citizens
academy.
M
So
out
of
that
preparation,
I've
asked
for
her
and
you
guys
can
think
about
it.
We
can
talk
about
the
next
meeting
or
beforehand
that
this
group
meet.
You
know
either
during
the
week
or
on
a
weekend
day,
two
days,
four
hours,
a
piece
I
don't
want
to
rush
it,
the
policing
101.
I
was
had
the
opportunity
to
develop,
help,
help
out
developing
that
program
back
when
it
started,
and
it
was
five
hours
on
one
saturday
and
it
felt
kind
of
rushed
with
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
got.
M
A
A
Thank
you
now,
chief.
I
know
we
have
you
down
for
the
after
action
report
updates
from
from
the
event
the
the
incident
that
happened
on
may
30th
and
31st,
but
just
before
you
start
I
I
know
that
we
received
an
email
captain
thompson
notified
that
the
period
for
providing
comments
has
been
extended
to
the
end
of
the
year.
So
I
do
recognize
council
members.
A
I
wanted
you
to
know
that,
because
tonight
it
was
already
on
our
agenda,
but
because
of
covid
and
the
other
situations
going
on,
the
time
has
been
extended
to
be
able
to
provide
comments
chief,
if
you
would
just
share
with
us
your
preliminary
comments
that
you
have,
because
I
know
that
it's
not
conclusive
as
of
yet
because
of
the
fact
that
you've
extended
the
period
we
do
appreciate.
You
still
agreeing,
though,
to
discuss
the
item
with
us.
A
H
Before
I
cover
that,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
everybody
from
the
subcommittees
and
and
all
the
different
reports
that
we
got
and
just
comment
briefly
on
those
things
I
didn't
want
to
interrupt.
In
fact,
I'm
sorry,
I
even
interrupted
the
data
part,
but
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
at
least
address
and
answer
some
of
your
questions
in
a
contemporary
way.
H
When
you
ask
them,
I
want
to
say
overall,
I'm
very
encouraged
by
what
I'm
hearing
and
what
I'm
seeing
and
and
and
not
just
from
you
and
this
group
and
reporting
out
with
the
subcommittees,
but
also
from
my
folks
that
have
been
part
of
I
think,
arthur
lee
and
some
other
people
I
mentioned
earlier
that
were
part
of
the
traffic
subcommittee
and
I'm
just
going
to
say
generally
for
all
of
our
work
and
because
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of
comments
and
I
don't
want
to
reopen
that.
H
H
Very
few
organizations
ever
achieved
that
it's
certainly
my
vision,
my
goal
and
in
order
to
get
there,
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
so.
I
think
it's
it's
just
an
assumption
that
we
can
do
more
and
I'll
just
I'll
touch
a
little
bit
on
the
on
the
complaint
or
or
the
the
on
the
complaint
process.
That
was
mentioned
in
communications
and
I'll
just
touch
on
communications.
H
It's
probably
for
us
our
number
one
complaint
that
we
don't
complain
enough.
We
don't
communicate
enough
that
we
don't
it's
not
timely.
It's
not
specific
enough
we're
not
getting
information
out
enough.
As
you
all
know,
those
you
are
original
members
on
this
committee.
It's
something
that's
been
brought
up
since
this
committee
began.
H
So
I
think
I
like
best
how
jerome
described
what
the
goal
is.
But
to
me
it's
like
a
marriage.
One
plus
one
is
greater
than
two,
the
more
that
we
communicate
the
better
and
so
there's
there's
a
lot
of
lack
of
trust
already
in
a
lot
of
our
communities.
H
H
Well,
I'll
tell
you,
in
the
absence
of
doing
anything,
we're
going
to
rely
on
media
social
media
and
some
of
the
most
inaccurate
rumor-laden
ways
of
communicating.
So
if
we
do
nothing,
I
think
that
would
be
the
worst
outcome,
so
I'm
so
thankful
for
this
group
rolling
their
sleeves
up
and
and
just
kind
of
engaging
in
this,
as
has
been
discussed,
there's
40
items
and
and
one
of
the
ones
that
was
brought
up
was
a
critical
incident
review.
H
I
can
tell
you
again,
if
you're
in
a
community
and
there's
a
shooting
and
we're
coming
to
that
community,
whether
we're
directly
involved
or
not,
it's
something
that
people
want
to
hear
about.
We
can't
do
everything
overnight
with
any
of
these
items,
but
what
we
can
do
is
incrementally
make
things
better.
H
I'm
excited
about
doing
that
and
I'm
thankful
that
you're
engaging
in
that
work
with
us.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
perfect
and
I
would
just
caution
not
doing
anything
in
in
fear
of
not
achieving
perfection,
and
so
I
just
throw
that
out.
I
like
the
idea
of
a
podcast.
I
like
the
idea
of
all
the
suggestions
that
came
up.
There's
not
one
thing
that
I've
heard
tonight
that
I
disagree
with.
We
can't
do
all
of
them.
That's
why
we
gotta
prioritize.
H
That's
what
paul
talked
about,
and
I
think
if
we
do
two
or
three
things
and
we're
doing
really
well
we're
gonna
be
in
a
much
much
better
place
so
I'll
just
throw
that
out.
I'm
very
encouraged
by
that
same
thing
with
the
policy
committee,
the
review
of
our
processes,
making
sure
that
we
are
transparent
as
we
make
these
improvements
as
we
we
talk
about
being
accountable,
creating
a
culture
of
accountability.
H
That's
what
this
is
all
about.
It's
putting
some
meat
on
that
not
just
talking
about,
but
actually
doing
it
a
lot
of
good
internal
discussions
that
have
come
out
of
this
as
tony
talked
about
and
I'll
just
kind
of
leave
it
at
that.
I
want
to
compliment
dave,
crosby
captain
middleton,
jason
bruder
who's
on
this
call
and
spoke
up
briefly
earlier
was
a
big
part
of
automating
our
department,
I'll
just
just
to
put
context
on
what
we're
doing
10
to
12
years
ago.
I
wasn't
here,
but
I
can.
H
I
can
tell
you
I've
heard
from
our
team.
There
was
not
one,
not
one
single
computer
in
the
entire
police
department,
maybe
as
recent
as
12
years
ago,
and
so
when
chief
greg
mullin
and
people
like
jason
brouder
and
david
crosby
actually
worked
in
the
city
it
at
that
time
and
others.
Thankfully,
before
I
ever
got
here,
they
embraced
the
idea
of
automation.
H
They
created
data
sets,
we
have
more
today
than
they
had.
Then
they
had
zero,
and
so
I
just
put
that
frame
around
it,
because
I
was
surprised
to
learn
that.
But
we've
come
a
long,
long
ways
in
the
last
10
to
12
years
and
we
have
a
long
ways
to
go,
but
that's
just
a
context,
and-
and
so
with
that
last
thing,
I'll
mention
and
I'll
get
into
the
after
action
review.
Naomi
brought,
who
has
38
years
of
service
to
this
city,
was
a
police
officer
in
north
charleston
and
she's.
H
Been
a
police
officer
in
the
city
of
charleston
for
35
years
broke
a
lot
of
barriers
to
become
the
deputy
chief
number
two
has
run.
The
police
department
in
the
absence
of
the
chief
has
run
the
horse
and
mounted
patrol
unit
has
been
in
every
unit
in
this
organization
and
served
in
many
many
capacities
outside
of
our
organization,
not
the
least
of
which
is
being
a
coast
guard
lifetime,
a
career
person.
I
think
she
received
the
enlisted
officer
of
the
year
for
the
entire
country
for
the
entire
coast
guard
I
think
in.
H
H
Thank
her
congratulate
her
and
all
of
her
many
accomplishments
and
her
contributions,
and
that
process
will
begin
soon
and
I'm
going
to
take
my
time
and
we'll
talk
more
about
that
selection
process
and
and
and
and
more
to
come
on
what
that
might
look
like,
and
so
with
that
I
I'll
I'll
start
my
review
of
the
after
action.
Unless
there's
any
questions
about
those
things.
H
Okay,
so
we
have
a
preliminary
after
action
report.
It
is
not
finalized
that
won't
be
finalized
until
the
input
is
received
and
there's
additional
review
with
the
city
council,
public
safety
committee
and
and
the
overall
main
city
council.
It's
an
ongoing
process
following
the
protests
and
the
riots
that
occurred
may
30th
and
the
31st
cpd
initiated
an
after-action
plan
to
review
our
response
to
the
events
and
look
at
positive
practices
in
place
and
determine
lessons
learned.
H
The
review
is
based
on
a
nationally
recognized
model
authored
by
the
national
police
foundation.
The
model
highlights
the
importance
of
such
a
review
for
law
enforcement
agencies
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
their
response
and
therefore
create
more
effective
training
and
policies,
while
increasing
transparency
with
the
community.
H
The
preliminary
report
is
62
pages
in
length
and
is
essentially
divided
into
two
sections:
the
information
gathering
section
and
the
review
of
five
key
areas.
The
executive
summary
in
the
beginning
of
the
report
summarize
all
the
findings
and
everybody
should
have
access
to
that.
There's
a
link
and,
and
hopefully
you've
all
at
least
seen
it
and
been
able
to
review.
I'm
just
highlighting
some
of
the
areas
of
the
report
tonight.
H
H
Each
area
contains
a
description
of
positive
practices,
areas
for
improvement
and
lessons
learned
in
reviewing
these
key
areas.
I'm
going
to
highlight
those
five
areas
and
just
highlight
some
of
the
things
that
were
in
the
report
itself,
command
and
control
a
positive
practice
was
we
developed
an
appropriate
plan
based
on
confirmed
intelligence
and
had
sufficient
resources
available
for
what
we
knew?
What
we
had
in
the
beginning,
lessons
learned
as
the
situation
changed.
H
H
Lessons
learned
is
that
we
can
do
more,
as
we
talked
about
earlier
with
communication,
as
most
information
came
from
social
media
and
the
other
local
media,
and
we
need
to
create
a
media
team
to
partner
with
media
outlets,
to
give
updates
to
the
public.
We
have
done
that.
We've
created
a
media
team
to
partner
with
media
outlets,
to
give
updates
and
created
a
public
information
team.
H
H
H
Many
people
were
arrested,
processed
and
transported
in
a
timely
manner.
That
was
the
positive
practice.
The
lessons
learned.
We
need
more
efficient
processes
for
large
numbers
of
arrests
and
we
put
an
arrest,
processing
team
of
detectives
in
place
and
have
done
this
since
that
time
more
efficiently,
more
effectively.
H
H
H
H
We
have
a
new
software
program
for
all
pre-planned
events
for
improved
communication
structure
and
accounting
for
personnel
and
equipment.
We
have
a
new
text
messaging
notification
group
for
supervisors
to
improve
communication.
We
have
regular
email
updates
regarding
status
of
events
to
department
employees.
We
have
new
forms
and
a
process
for
multiple
arrests.
We
have
case
agent
assigned
as
a
point
of
contact
when
multiple
arresting
officers
exist.
H
For
example,
one
of
the
things
that
is
used
very
effectively
in
other
jurisdictions
are
bicycle
officers
which
we
have
but
they're,
not
a
part
of
our
disabled
disturbance
unit,
continual
peer
support
and
resources
for
officers
and
professional
staff.
I'm
not
going
to
get
in
great
detail
because
we
don't
have
time,
but
this
has
been
a
very
difficult
year.
You've
heard
me
talk
about
our
employees
and
the
suicide
ideation
rate
for
public
safety
has
been
very
high
and
it's
increased
significantly
in
this
past
year.
H
J
H
J
H
We
have
received
some
complaints
that
we
are
that
we
are
investigating
and
in
reviewing
and
we
are
seeking
input
from
the
community
and
would
like
to
hear
personal
stories
and
encourage
anyone
can
talk
to
contact
captain
thompson
with
any
additional
stories
or
feedback.
They
may
have.
A
Thank
you
so
much
chief,
any
questions,
council,
members
and
chief,
we
really
appreciate.
I
know
you
were
trying
to
be
quiet
and
not
enter
into
our
engage
in
the
discussions,
but
we
always
appreciate
the
information
that
you
share
with
us
and
we
truly
appreciate
your
staff
being
president
they've
been
continuing
with
us
throughout
these
meetings
and
we
are
really
really
appreciative
for
that.
Jerry.
C
Yeah
chief
reynolds,
the
you
know,
process
is,
you
know:
we've
notified
the
public
that
they
can
provide
comments
and
and
are
like.
Is
there
any
process
on
the
way
of
conceive
of
whether
it's
any
of
your
street
teams
or
community
outreach
people
who
are
aggressively
encouraging
people
to
make
comments
stories
positive
or
negative.
H
Yeah,
I'm
gonna,
let
dustin
I'm
gonna,
put
you
on
the
spot.
I
like
to
do
that.
I'm
gonna
let
dustin
kind
of
talk
a
little
bit
about
not
only
what
we've
done
up
to
this
point,
but
one
of
the
I
will
share
with
you.
One
of
the
criticisms
and
requests
that
we
received
just
recently
was
that
some
people
have
not
had
a
chance
or
maybe
didn't
know
so
the
reason
why
we
extended
it
30
days
and
we're
putting
it
on
our
website
and
I'll.
H
Let
dustin
talk
more
specifically
about
that,
because
he's
helping
lead
that
effort
is
that
we
don't
want
anybody
left
out.
We're
not
rushing
this
we're
not
hiding
anything,
and
there
was
some
people
that
felt
that
way.
So
thank
you
for
raising
that
concern.
M
M
Back
in
october,
we
did
make
the
announcement
on
the
public
safety
committee
that
we
were
open
this
up
to
public
comment
and
to
back
up
you
know
we,
I
had
been
meeting
with
several
business
owners
and
citizens
along
the
way.
You
know,
informally
no,
no
formal
announcement
that
we
were
doing
that.
But
you
know
we.
We
went
right
after
may,
30th
the
31st
our
team
went
out
and
walked
king
street.
They
walked
king
street
and
some
of
the
outlying
areas
several
times.
M
So
we
did
have
have
our
community
engagement
just
not
putting
out
the
form
that
we're
doing
now
back
in.
M
So,
the
first
round
in
the
late
october,
I
sent
it
out
obviously
to
all
the
citizens
advisory
council
council,
two
citizens
coming
to
our
our
city
council
members,
all
of
our
central
business
district
contacts,
our
market
areas,
our
neighborhood
association
presence
in
the
surrounding
area.
So
we
got
it
out
to
over
four
or
500
contacts.
M
Like
the
chief
said
here
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
we've
got
some
interest
that
you
know
to
extend
this
out
and
to
re-advertise
it
again.
So
that's
what
we're
doing
we're
not
in
a
rush
I
have
received.
You
know
several
positive
and
negative,
not
negative,
but
you
know
emails
for
that.
They're
encouraging
us
to
do
better,
which
we
need
to
listen
and
we
do.
We
do
need
to
get
better
in
all
aspects
that
we're
doing
so.
M
There
we're
extending
out
30
more
days
and
hopefully,
we'll
have
some
more
some
more
feedback
that
we
can
digest
before
we
put
out
our
final
after-action
review.
A
H
Yeah,
I
think
what
we
can
do,
then
is
we
may
have
a
final
approved
version
of
the
the
report
which
will
incorporate
these
things,
and
I
think
at
that
point
it
would
be
appropriate
for
dustin
to
highlight
what
he's
heard
and
and
just
incorporate
that
and
add
that
to
this
this
conversation.
A
C
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
ask
whether
the
mayor's
faith
network
was
included
in
your
distribution
or
invitations
to
I'll.
M
Check
with
the
mayor,
he
was
on
the
the
emails
that
I
did
send
out
and
it
was
picked
up
by
all
the
local
media
but
I'll
double
check
with
the
meredith.
M
Thank
you,
sir,
and
but
that's
that's
what
we
want
to
hear
we
need
to.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
knows
who
to
contact.
That's
why
we
had
a
single
point
of
contact
and
we
you
know
we
we
don't
want
to
shy
away
from
any
feedback.
We
we
need
that.
Obviously,.
E
Just
one
comment:
just
a
just
a
side
note,
I
I
think,
as
a
citizen
yeah
citizens
group,
I
want
to
acknowledge.
I
think
today
sergeant
steve
hood
who's
been
with
the
department
for
44
years.
Also
retired.
E
I
think
that's
an
accomplishment,
but
I
also
think,
more
importantly,
you
know
I'm
a
human
resources
guy
you,
while
you
hate
to
lose
that
type
of
experience
and
institutional
knowledge.
I
also
see
this
and
I'm
an
old
guy,
so
I
can
say
it
as
an
old
guy.
E
It's
an
amazing
opportunity
to
allow
new,
fresh
ideas
to
come
in,
and
even
more
importantly,
that
just
cleared
a
slot
for
some
of
these
younger
folks
to
be
able
to
move
in,
and
these
more
motivated
folks
to
move
up
to
these
positions,
and
you
want
to
improve
your
police
department
on
on
the
people
side
of
it.
They
need
to
be
motivated
and
motivation
is
not
always
money,
it's
opportunity,
okay,
so
I
look
at
this
as
well.
You
know
I
hate
that
we'll
lose
the
guy
because
he's
you
know
44
years
a
lot
of
time.
H
Amen
and
thank
you
for
mentioning
steve-
I
just
went
to
lunch
with
him
today-
went
to
lunch
with
naomi
earlier
this
week
and
I
couldn't
say
it
any
better
than
paul.
H
Just
did
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
some
amazing
people
on
all
ends
of
the
spectrum
in
this
city
and
we're
only
as
good
as
the
talent
that
we
have
and-
and
we
have,
we
have
a
very
talented
core
of
people
and
and
you've
said
that
I
don't
need
to
say
that
you
you've
seen
it
you've,
witnessed
it
you're,
going
to
continue
to
engage
with
our
folks.
Even
more
thankful
for
that
well
said,
thanks.
A
Thank
you
and
and
paul,
I
think,
did
you
ever
let
the
council
know
when
she
said
just
now
that
you're
working
with
the
police
foundation
right.
E
Well
sure:
well
it
wasn't.
We
haven't
done
enough
for
me
to
really
go.
I
think
you
know
his
team
got
to
hear
my
mantra
that
the
subcommittee
heard
was.
I
don't
go
to
meetings
for
the
sake
of
having
meetings.
E
I
go
to
move
with
executables,
so
what
I
did
is
I
did
meet
with
the
chief
and
his
you
know
his
team
they're
in
the
preliminary
discussions
of
putting
together
and
doing
the
legal
paperwork
and
everything
else
of
putting
together
a
police
support
fund
outside
of
the
union
and
everything
else
and
outside
of
you
know.
E
I
don't
want
the
city
council
saying
well,
if
the
fund's
going
to
provide
it,
we
don't
need
to
provide
it.
That's
not
going
to
be
the
way
it
works.
We
don't
want
to
be
a
pass
along.
We
want
to
be
able
to
do
stuff
that
the
council
and
his
budget
are
not
allowed
to
do
putting
on
you
know
something
as
simple
as
a
holiday
party
for
some
of
these
you
know
for
their
families.
You
know,
we
all
know
how
important
that
is
with
our
companies.
E
So
if
we
can
sponsor
things
like
that,
and
it's
not
I'm
not
saying
we
is,
you
know
the
the
advisory
committee,
but
you
know
in
creating
this
separate
fund
to
be
able
to
do
that.
It's
a
way
of
having
that
joint
interaction,
that's
outside
of
the
budget
to
show
you
know
we
support
these
organizational
events,
you
know,
and
all
these
groups
and
committees
we
also
need
to
have
a
way
of
showing
the
police
department.
We
appreciate
them
too.
H
G
H
To
take
it
in
a
whole
different
direction,
because
we
could
talk
on
a
separate
occasion
about
that,
but
it
it
could
also
be,
as
we
talked
about
data
analytics
today,
and
it
has
been
used
for
similar
things
in
the
past
when
there
was
no
funds
for
body
cameras
chief
mullen
and
their
team
receive
some
private
funding
to
get
a
program
started.
It
could
be,
as
somebody
mentioned
earlier,
if
there
was
a
simple
programming
need
to
get
some
of
our
data
going
more
quickly
and
more
efficiently
and
more
effectively.
H
H
It's
a
time
when
we
need
to
be
out
in
the
communities
even
more,
but
we
may
not
have
money
for
ice
cream,
but
but
there's
private
donors
that
will
step
up
in
a
minute
and
fund
an
initiative
like
that
and
partner
with
the
police
department
to
go
in
at-risk
communities
and
and
and
do
more
with
our
youth
and
and
other
things.
So
it's
not
and
there's
a
variety
of
things
and
I
see
jerry
with
the
handover
I'll
be
quiet.
Thank
you.
A
Let
me
ask
before
I
call
on
jerry:
is
there?
Can
we
reach
consensus
to
extend
meeting
for
another
five
minutes
to
be
able
to
wrap
up
I'm
trying
to
trying
to
make
sure
that
I
I
do
the
facilitative
leader
thing
and
keep
us
on
time.
I
do
know
that
we
say
5
30
to
7
30.
We
did
start
a
little
bit
late
today,
so
I
do
appreciate
your
patience
with
that.
So
looking
at
you
for
consensus,
five
minutes,
and
that
would
include
me
also
stating
what
the
next
agenda
items
would
be.
C
Paul
I'd
urge
that
we
be
careful
in
terms
of
crafting
the
messaging
around
the
intent
of
this.
This
fundraising,
as
the
chief
talked
about
the
community
police
and
community
engagement
as
being
part
of
the
support,
there
are
some
of
the
language
that
I
heard
sounded
like
support
the
police
and
not
support
law
enforcement
and
community
safety.
So
just
be.
C
I
just
want
us
to
be
careful
because
I
think
there's
there
are
folks
who
will
want
365
support
police
and
community,
so
we
have
a
stronger
and
stronger
pace.
So
I
just
urge
us
to
think
about
the
the
messaging.
E
A
No,
I'm
saying
that
because
we
also
are
going
to
have
this
publicized
on
youtube,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
crystal
clear
that
the
citizens
police
advisory
council
is
not
the
police
foundation.
I
simply
asked
paul
to
share
that
interaction,
because
chief
had
briefly
mentioned
it.
I
referred
to
it
in
his
comments
and
I
did
I
wanted
for
everyone
to
know
so
that
we
would
have
total
transparency
here.
E
Right
and
it's
going
to
be,
it
is
a
separate
501c3,
so
it's
not
a
government
entity.
There
are
no.
I
mean
this
is
a
private.
It's
going
to
be
a
private
corporation,
non-profit,
the
chief
didn't
he
he
talked
about
analytics,
which
is
so
boring
but
needed,
but
the
more
fun
thing
for
some
of
us
old-timers
is
one
of
the
things
we
did
talk
about.
Real
quick
was
bringing
back
the
horse
patrol.
E
That's
never
going
to
come
out
of
his
primary
budget
anymore,
with
all
the
things
that
they
need,
and
I
think
you
know
those
are
community
type
things
and
jerry.
You
know
I'm
gonna
be
reaching
out
to
you
for
messaging
for
everything
anyway,
so
yeah,
but
I'm
I
appreciate
you
raising
both
hands
now
you
volunteered
yourself,
so
I'm
coming
after
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
now
for
the
agenda
for
next
time.
I
have
I
made
some
notes,
so
I
have
the
subcommittee's
reporting
again:
policing,
101
academy,
first
or
second
quarter
of
2021.
Captain
thompson
I'll
be
looking
to
you
for
that,
to
let
us
know
okay,
cool
and
then
the
crime
analysis.
Unit
kind
of
sounded
like
david,
would
be
ready.
David
crosby
be
ready
to
come
back
and
share
some
additional
information
with
us.
Then
possibility
david's
got
his
his
mic
off
right
now,
but
I'm
sure
when
he
I'm.
A
M
Do
you
want
captain
cortello
on
the
next
call
in
february
you
mentioned
earlier,
somebody
mentioned
earlier,
an
update
from
him,
a
timeline
from
his
subcommittee
involved.
A
C
A
Right,
yeah,
and
so
then,
when
they
do
their
subcommittee
report,
it'll
probably
dovetail
right
into
captain
cortela
as
well,
and
then
captain
brooder
has
been
very
dedicated
and
always
supporting
us,
so
I'm
sure
he'll
be
there
too,
with
us
talking
with
the
crime
analysis
unit
again
now,
looking
at
the
dates,
we've
been
sticking
with
first
thursday,
of
of
each
month
every
two
months,
so
I
have
february
the
4th
would
be
the
next
time
we
would
meet
a
cpac
and
then
the
next
meeting
after
that
would
be
april
1st,
and
that's
not
an
april
fool's
joke
either
april
1st
would
be
will
be.
A
The
meeting
is
that
good
for
everyone
same
time
same
station?
Okay,
you
all,
please
have
a
very
continue
to
have
a
safe
time.
Thank
you,
so,
very
much
for
your
time.
This
evening
we
will
not
be
talking
with
each
other
during
the
christmas
holiday
unless
your
subcommittee
is
meeting
so
please
have
a
safe,
enjoyable
holiday
and
enjoy
the
season
and
make
sure
to
stay
safe
and
take
care
of
each
other.