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From YouTube: Citizen's Police Advisory Council 4/8/2021
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Citizen's Police Advisory Council 4/8/2021
A
Thank
you
yep
good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
citizens
police
advisory
council's
meeting
for
the
charleston
police
department
antoine
fielding
the
current
chairman
of
the
council
and
we're
so
happy
that
you
have
been
able
to
join
us
for
this
evening's
meeting
at
this
time.
We'll
ask
that
bethany.
Would
you
roll
call
for
us.
A
C
A
C
A
In
the
meantime,
then,
while
we
are
awaiting
one
more
at
least
one
more
council
member
to
join
us,
it's
been
brought
to
my
attention
that
some
of
us
may
not
realize
we
do
have.
We
do
have
two
high
school
students
high
school
seniors,
who
are
members
of
the
council
and
had
been
participating.
A
Thank
you
and
peter
as
you
all,
as
you
all
are
aware,
attends
the
meetings
regularly
and
thank
you
for
doing
that.
Peter
venesh
nepal
had
to
resign
and
did
send
that
email
to
us
on
last
week.
So
the
mayor
is
in
the
process
of
replacing
his
membership
on
the
council
and
once
that
part
once
that
name
is
provided,
then
you'll
receive
an
email
with
that
new
member's
name
and
and
of
course,
that
person
will
be
present
at
our
next
meeting.
A
The
next
item
is
moving
on
to
approval
of
minutes.
Bethany.
Are
we
at
a
quorum?
Oh
I'm.
Sorry,
doris
has
her
hand
raised.
D
Yes,
I
was
not
aware
that
we
had
some
high
school
representation.
How
are
we
recruiting
folks
well
high
school
students
for
as
members
of
council.
A
A
A
B
A
A
We
do
have
two
citizens
who
signed
up
to
speak
to
us
tonight.
If
I'm
looking
at
everyone,
those
who
I
could
see,
I
think,
since
they
did
sign
up,
I
don't
believe
in
action.
Maybe
a
voting
action
would
be
required
from
us.
A
B
A
F
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
miguel
torres,
I'm
a
current.
Well,
I've
been
a
long
time
resident
of
charleston
country
club
too,
and
one
of
the
few
concerns
that
I
have.
E
F
The
harborview
elementary
school
and
my
the
entry
into
my
neighborhood,
which
is
frampton
and
then
turning
on
to
burning
tree
road.
So
what
has
happened
is
twice
a
day
during
school.
The
traffic
has
actually
blocked
any
kind
of
response,
emergency
vehicles
or
any
kind
of
vehicles,
including
my
own,
from
getting
in
and
out
of
the
neighborhood.
F
F
The
next
thing
is
the
people
picking
up
their
children
at
school
are
also
blocking
the
fire
hydrants.
So
even
if
an
emergency
happens,
I
guess,
by
the
time
they
get
to
my
house,
my
house
would
probably
be
in
this
array.
F
Also,
I've
noticed
that
there
is
like
two
or
three
children,
I've
seen
three
separate
occasions
within
the
past
month
or
so
running
across
harborview
road,
which
is
a
four-lane
highway,
slash
road,
main
road
and
unsupervised.
F
I've
seen
parents
dropping
off
their
kids
on
the
other
side
of
the
road
parking
their
cars
illegally,
walking
across
and
coming
onto
this
side
of
our
harbor
view
to
drop
their
kids
off
one
of
the
things
of
signage
in
our
neighborhood,
which
is
do
not
stop,
do
not
block
and
so
forth
on
one
side
of
our
neighborhood
by
those
signs
going
up
and
we
don't
know
who's
responsible
for
those
signs
has
stopped
all
the
traffic
from
actually
safely
dropping
off
their
children.
So
now
they
cannot
drop
off
their
children
on
inverness
no
longer.
F
F
Trying
to
cross
the
road
and
emergency
vehicle
cannot
respond
to
someone's
emergency
need
so
and
also
just
the
basic
speeding
on
harbor
view
road.
I
notice
the
police
officer
sits
over
by
the
hess
station.
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
mannequin
inside
of
a
unit
or
not,
but
basically
it's
very
rare
that
you
ever
see
him
pull
anybody
over
and
these
un
muffled
vehicles
going
by
and
you
can
tell
they're
accelerating
past
50
miles
an
hour.
A
A
If
not
during
this
meeting
during
the
next
meeting.
G
Fine,
if
I
may,
we
will
pass
that
on
to
our
units
in
the
area
and
we'll
address
that
on
immediately.
G
B
Juan
our
second
person
that
signed
up
to
speak
is
a
gentleman
and
his
name
is
tony.
I
think
the
last
name
is
danielle
and
mr
danielle,
if
you
are
on
the
line,
you
can
press
star
6
to
unmute
yourself.
H
It
is
an
honor
to
be
able
to
speak
to
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
citizen
participation.
I
live
next
door
to
miguel.
Since
I
have
three
minutes.
I
get
to
tell
a
story
and
here's
the
story-
I'm
retired
military
and
I
was
stationed
in
salt
lake
city
and
in
salt
lake
city.
You
can
park
more
than
five
feet
away
from
a
fire
hydrant.
I
moved
from
salt
lake
city
to
los
angeles,
and
I
got
a
ticket
for
parking
next
to
a
fire
hydrant.
I
took
out
a
tape
measure
measured
it.
H
H
Now
the
problem
we've
got
and
I
submitted
in
the
comments
all
the
rules
in
south
carolina
that
govern
the
roads
and
the
road.
The
rules
are,
you
have
to
be
at
least
30
feet
away
from
a
flashing,
yellow
light
on
harvey
road.
You
have
to
be
20
feet
away
from
intersection,
20
feet
away
from
a
crosswalk
15
feet
away
from
a
fire
hydrant.
E
H
I
H
Asked
that
the
city
put
signs
up,
we
asked
five
months
ago,
as
miguel
mentioned,
they
got
him
in
the
other
part
of
the
neighborhood.
We
can't
seem
to
get
them
in
ours,
but,
first
of
all,
you
need
to
have
the
knowledge
for
that's
why
I
told
that
story.
You
need
to
know
that
you're
breaking
the
law,
you
can't
stop
or
park
a
car
in
south
carolina
within
three
feet
of
a
driveway.
H
My
driveway's
blocked
every
day
twice
a
day,
and
this
is
when
school
is
not
even
busy
wait
till
it
fills
up,
so
we
need
signs
put
up,
which
is
what
miguel
talked
about.
There
are
other
mitigating
factors,
mayor
tekkenberg
is
doing
the
very
best
he
can
to
solve
that.
I've
talked
to
the
school
they're
going
to
try
and
solve
some
of
the
problems,
but
they
can't
solve
this
problem.
This
is
by
enforcement
and
and
the
rules
are
on
the
books
for
a
reason.
H
I
believe
they're
there
for
safety,
not
just
to
make
money,
and
if
it's
a
safety
problem,
then
we
need
to
enforce
the
safety
code,
but
the
first
thing
is
is
give
them
notice.
Tell
people
they're
doing
something
wrong
and
then
enforce
the
code
so
tell
them.
You
cannot
stop
within
three
feet
of
driveway.
You
can't
park
within
20
feet
of
an
intersection
can't
park
within
20
feet
of
a
crosswalk
sure
can't
park
within
15
feet
of
a
fire
hydrant,
which
happened
every
day
twice
a
day.
H
H
H
H
H
and
sometimes
I'd
try
and
go
out,
and
I
got
the
old
the
your
number
one
sign
for
somebody
when
I
ask
them
to
move
they're,
not
real
polite
out
in
that
blocking
the
road
they're
in
a
hurry,
they're
wanting
to
get
to
school,
and
I
I
have
empathy
for
them.
I
carried
my
daughter
to
school
every
day,
but
also
obeyed
the
traffic
laws.
A
A
Bye-Bye
council
members,
we
also,
although
not
signed
up
to
speak.
I
do
want
to
respect
the
fact
that
we're
fortunate
to
have
joining
with
us
this
evening
for
this
meeting
our
city
councilwoman,
carol,
jackson
from
james
island.
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
joining
in
with
us
ma'am.
Would
you
like
to
say
anything.
J
Tonight,
thank
you.
I
just
appreciate
that
all
the
work
that
the
advisory
committee
has
been
doing,
and
rather
than
just
hearing
about
it,
I
thought
I
would
sit
in
and
actually
listen
to
y'all
for
an
evening.
I'm
so
grateful
that
miss
doris
grant
has
stayed
with
the
group
the
whole
time
after
she
and
the
mayor,
and
I
I
mean
the
mayor
and
I
nominated
her
and
we're
very
proud
to
have
doris
I.
J
I
guess
one
little
thing
that
would
follow
along
with
a
few
gentlemen
from
country
club
two
were
just
talking
about
this
week
has
been
a
foreshadowing
of
how
you
know
really
hard.
It
is
to
travel
on
james
island.
We
only
have
essentially
two
streets
that
go
from
north
to
south
and
the
biggest
one
is
folly
road
that
goes
all
the
way
to
the
beach
so
a
spring
break.
It
was
like
beach
week.
J
No
one
could
get
anywhere
on
folly.
I
saw
two
or
three
like
suicide.
Lane,
accidents
or
near
misses
my
concern
as
a
as
a
council
person
that
is
really
just
occurring
to
me.
After
listening
to
the
judge
to
the
two
gentlemen,
is
we
have
a
neighborhood
down
at
the
very
end
of
james
island
that
is
now
being
party
to
two
very
popular
establishments?
J
Now
we
can't
even
get
to
the
parking
enforcement
stage,
because
folly
road
is
so
backed
up
on
any
given
nice
day
that
people
are
traveling
to
the
beach.
So
I
I
don't
know
I
mean
I
wish
we
had
a
helicopter
that
could
fly
over
and
land
a
few
people
are
handing
out
citations
because
it
really
is
a
safety
issue
in
these
roads
that
just
stay
permanently
backed
up.
E
J
Day
long,
I
I
just
came
home
from
dropping
my
grandson
off.
I
was
a
mile
away
from
their
house
to
my
house
and
it
took
me
20
minutes
because,
basically,
you
get
stopped
at
every
light
and
it's
bumper
to
bumper
and
people.
Don't
let
you
in
and
it's
it's
a
real
problem.
So
I
know
it's
not
anything,
that's
easy
to
solve,
but
I
do
think
that
we
should
all
be
aware
about
that
kind
of
you
know
congestion
and
the
ways
that
we
have
to
be
creative
and
enforcing
it.
A
Members
moving
forward
moving
backwards,
I'm
sorry
to
the
approval
of
our
minutes.
Since
we
do
have
a
quorum
present.
Did
everyone
get
a
chance
to
read
through
the
minutes.
L
A
A
And
emily,
we
don't
see
you
okay,
thumbs
up.
Okay,
good
deal,
all
those
opposed,
please
say:
nay,
okay,
it's
been
approved,
then
that
we
will
adopt
the
minutes
as
printed.
Thank
you
very
much
and
again
we
want
to
thank
those
citizens
who
spoke
out
to
us
and
councilwoman
jackson
for
the
time
that
you
took
to
participate
in
tonight's
meeting
now
we'll
move
to
the
subcommittee
reports
just
prior
to
to
starting
the
reports.
I
do
want
to
state
that
I
will
be
preparing
a
report.
A
Next
week,
I've
talked
with
bethany,
so
I
will
be
preparing
a
report
next
week
to
submit
to
the
public
safety
committee,
which
is
the
process
that
you
would
do
to
be
able
to
have
a
report
to
go
before
the
council,
the
city
council,
to
let
them
know
the
actions
that
we
have
completed
to
date
and
the
actions
that
we
have
pending
just
to
give
them
an
update
on
what
the
cpac
has
been
doing.
I
will
share
that
information
with
you.
A
If
you'd,
like
anything
added,
I
will
be
asking
that
you
respond
back
pretty
promptly
and
whatever
responses
I
receive,
I
will
try
to
incorporate
those
changes.
If
I
don't
receive
responses
by
a
specific
time
that
I
will
state
in
the
email
to
you,
we
will
go
on
and
forward
that
information
to
the
public
safety
committee,
so
that
we
will
be
timely
in
that
okay,
and
that
falls
in
line
with
what
the
communication
subcommittee
presented
at
the
previous
meeting
and
the
council
approved
the
subcommittee's
report.
A
Any
questions
on
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
Let's
go
with
the
traffic
stop
committee.
Is
someone
gonna
report
in
joe
stead.
It's
on
the
traffic
subcommittee.
A
Okay,
we'll
we'll
put
traffic
stop
bethany
on
the
next
next
agenda.
Please
continue
to
keep
joe
lyson
and
his
family
in
your
positive
concerns.
K
Adam
madam
chair,
just
ask
that
the
tremendous
traffic
stop
committee
meets
that
they
perhaps
discuss
the
the
sled
report
on
on
traffic
stops
and
ticketing
and
provide
us
any
comments
and
observations
that
they
might
have
in
that
regard.
K
M
Yes,
I'm
out
of
chair,
so
our
minutes
are
pretty
thorough
so,
rather
than
rehashing
what
everybody
has
available,
I'm
gonna
seed
my
time
and
take
any
questions,
but
I'll
see
my
time
because
I
see
we
have
a
lot
of
updates
and
I'd.
Rather
us
have
more
tunnel
and
updates.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
tamino,
that
lets.
You
know
that
your
report
was
very
concise
and
I
think
everybody
fully
understands
all
that
is
listed
there.
If
you
do
have
any
questions,
though,
outside
this
meeting,
please
make
sure
that
you
email
to
councilman
tamborino
so
that
he
will
have
an
opportunity
to
address,
or
at
least
present
it
at
the
next
subcommittee's
meeting
policy
and
procedures
subcommittee,
councilman,
milliken,.
N
I
actually
wasn't
able
to
be
present
at
the
last
policy
and
procedures
meeting
I
found
out,
I
had
to
take
an
exam
during
the
exact
same
time
that
the
meeting
was
scheduled
for
about
30
minutes
before
the
meeting
was
supposed
to
start,
but
I
did
send
out
I
emailed
out
some
notes
from
that
meeting
and
really
we
just
discussed
the
2020
complaint
data
and
I
think
I'm
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
an
agenda
item
tonight,
but
there's
some
revisions
that
were
made
to
that
that
that
mr
rimland
mentioned
he
might
add
tonight.
N
And
then
we
also
discussed
the
policy
directives,
review
process
and-
and
you
know
just
more
discussion
on
what
that's
going
to
look
like
as
far
as
the
policy
and
procedure,
subcommittee's
role
and
cpac
as
a
as
a
whole,
our
role
and
and
kind
of
how
the
department's
going
to
create
that
schedule
and
as
far
as
like
more
in-depth
policing
information
that
that,
maybe
all
members
of
council
don't
know
how
we
can
be
up
to
speed.
So
we
can
be
informed
during
that
review
process.
A
K
Matt
madam
chair
just
wanted
to
amplify
and
highlight
one
aspect:
captain
cortella
reviewed
with
us
the
process
and
procedure
for
reviewing
the
78
directives
of
the
department
over
a
three
months
over
a
three
year
period.
From
my
engagement
involvement,
I
think
we
we
as
a
a
council,
need
to
rethink
our
deployment
of
our
of
our
bodies
if
there
are
at
least
20
or
30
of
the
directives
that
may
be
being
reviewed
on
it
on
an
annual
basis.
K
Our
three
committees
are
not
responsible.
I
think
we
may
need
to
be
thinking,
think
through
a
kind
of
more
rapid
response
and
or
prioritizing
those
those
that
we
might
wanna.
We
might
wanna
comment
on.
K
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
if
you
reviewed-
and
I
know
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
the
annual
report
on
the
racial
bias
audit,
the
back
appendix
lists
each
of
those
policy
directives
and
a
schedule
for
reviewing
them
on-
and
I
would
just
urge
the
members
of
the
council
to
look
at
on
those
that
they
have
some
interest
in
or
some
expertise
in
and
for
us
to
have
a
conversation
about
how
we
might
be
able
to
be
more
helpful,
more
responsive
and
interactive
with
the
department
in
updating
those
directors.
E
K
It
was
not
in
the
form
of
a
recommendation
on,
I
think
they
were.
We
did
not
vote
out.
There
were
two
two
things
that
we
discussed
that
I
think
are
relevant
here.
One
had
to
do
with
the
criteria
that
the
department
used
in
deciding,
which
was
one
year
two
year
or
three
year
review
and
it
had
to
do
with
various
dimensions
of
of
the
cycle
and
that's
not
outlining
the
director.
K
So
we
recommend
we
recommend
it
to
the
department
that
they
take
a
look
at
that
and
then.
Secondly,
there
was
a
suggestion
that,
in
addition
to
simply
identifying
what
year
a
particular
what
cycle
what
particular
cycle
year,
there
would
be
a
review.
There
might
be
a
first
second
or
third
quarter
projection.
That
was
a
suggestion
not-
and
it's
not
a
it-
was
really
made
to
the
department
and
and
not
brought
forward
to
the
for
council
action.
A
Subcommittee
any
further
action
the
council
wants
to
take
regarding
the
additional
comments
from
the
policy
procedure
subcommittee.
A
C
Hello,
I
am
I
possible.
May
I
share
my
screen.
C
C
All
right,
I
have
a
very
brief
powerpoint
here,
so
here's
where
we're
at
we
shared
the
annual
report
in
the
illumination
project
final
report
in
january,
with
the
expectation
that
we
would
receive
feedback
so
that
it
could
all
be
finalized.
For
this
meeting.
C
I
will
get
that
done
as
soon
as
possible
and
then
we
can
make
reports
public,
basically
just
to
give
you
an
overview
of
the
report
from
where
we're
at
the
the
report
itself
is
meant
to
be
a
progress
report
intended
to
share
the
status
of
implementation.
C
It
does
not
supplant
or
replace
the
analysis
that
was
done
by
cna
or
the
analysis.
That's
done
in
the
annual
public
professional
standards
office
report
that
captain
cortela
produces,
and
so
that
report
provides
analysis
for
the
things
that
are
monitored
by
pso,
which
include
use
of
force
and
complaints,
and
I
believe
he
is
very
close
to
wrapping
up
the
2020
report,
which
will
be
coming
out
soon.
So
the
audit
report
was
just
intended
to
show
where
we
were
at
with
implementing
the
recommendations.
C
The
recommendations
were
classified
as
simply
as
possible
as
complete,
partially
complete
or
in
progress,
and
one
piece
of
feedback
was
that
we
didn't
define
what
those
mean
so
for
this.
For
this
audience
I
marked
something
as
complete
if
it
was
an
action
that
that
cna
recommended
that
the
department
implemented-
and
there
was
no
need
for
further
action.
So,
for
example,
one
of
those
recommendations
was
to
include
a
sanctity
of
life
statement
in
all
of
the
use
of
force
policies.
C
The
department
added
that
statement
to
the
use
of
force
policies
published
the
use
of
force
policies,
and
we
marked
that
recommendation
is
complete.
That
doesn't
mean
they're
going
to
stop
working
on
the
use
of
force
policy
that
will
continuously
evolve,
but
that
specific
recommendation
made
by
cma
cna
was
completed
by
the
department.
C
Some
of
the
recommendations
did
not
give
easy
to
measure
benchmarks,
so
one
of
the
recommendations
was
to
increase
community
engagement
in
that
that
that's
not
something
that
we
could
easily
say
is
is
a
completed
task.
C
It's
it'll
take,
I
think,
a
while
and
some
deeper
evaluation
to
to
say
that
some
of
the
recommendations
were
listed
as
partially
complete,
because
maybe
cna
recommended
in
one
recommendation
that
we
do
two
things
and
one
of
those
things
is
done,
but
the
other
thing
still
needs
to
happen,
and
so
I
attached
to
that
report
all
the
relevant
policies
that
were
updated
as
a
result
of
the
audit
and
some
other
documentation,
as
as
jerry
mentioned,
with
the
schedule
of
policies
to
be
reviewed.
C
C
Some
were
classified
as
complete
it,
but
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
more
work
on
them.
So
we're
going
to
move
that
to
partially
complete,
so
you'll
see
a
smaller
percentage
of
completion,
a
higher
percentage
of
partially
complete
and
then
in
progress.
It
means
that
you
know
we
haven't.
We
haven't
actually
met
any
part
of
the
recommendation
yet
so
this
was
breaking
down
the
progress
by
section
with
the
one-year
status
and
and
the
report
itself
is
broken
down
into
five
different
sections.
C
So
I
included
this
to
kind
of
remind
you
that
these
are
the
things
that
we're
working
on
one
of
the
biggest
things
and
we've
had
our
ciu
supervisor
come
and
explain
it
at
this
meeting.
One
of
the
biggest
challenges
is
the
way
we
we
collect
traffic,
stop
data
and
we're
still
working
on
that.
However,
we
made
some.
We
made
some
achievements
in
2020
and
they
were
mostly
focused
on
framework
and
foundation.
C
They
were
organized
organizational
policy.
Recommendations
were
implemented
first
because
we
needed
to
do
that
in
order
to
build
the
framework
to
promote
success
in
the
audit.
C
Part
of
that
was
aligning
the
traffic
division
under
the
same
part
of
the
department
as
community
outreach,
and
then
the
department
developed
the
five-year
strategic
plan
which
incorporated
both
the
racial
bias,
audit
recommendations
and
the
illumination
project
recommendations.
C
And
then
obviously,
one
of
our
one
of
the
the
huge
achievements
for
2020
was
the
cpac
subcommittees
created
to
address
some
of
the
audit
recommendations.
And
I
don't
have
to
explain
those
to
this
group,
because
you
guys
have
done
all
the
hard
work
of
making
that
happen,
and
we
appreciate
it.
C
So
there
was
an
implementation
budget
that
came
with
audit
implementation
and
we
really
focused
on
using
that
funding
in
a
in
a
thoughtful
way
to
meet
some
of
the
or
to
create
some
of
the
tools
to
help
us
achieve
the
audit
recommendations,
and
that
was
split
into
two
chunks.
One
was
you
know
to
to
work
with
some
really
smart
people
in
universities,
and
then
the
other
was
to
acquire
some
tools
to
help
us
do
that.
C
We'll
be
able
to
park
the
the
traffic
plan
or
the
traffic
strategy
out
there
and
open
it
up
for
people
to
give
input
and
and
then
collect
that
input
in
in
an
easier
way
than
asking
people
to
send
us
emails
or
come
to
a
meeting.
C
And
then
the
final
thing
is.
We,
we've
signed
an
mou
with
a
group
called
the
justice
innovation
lab,
in
collaboration
with
the
solicitor
to
conduct
some
analysis
on
things
like
arrests
and
prosecutions
and
and
stops,
and
so
that
that
is
a
kind
of
a
major
project.
That's
going
to
take
some
time
to
actually
get
to
the
implementation
part
or
the
analysis
and
reporting
back
part.
C
But
the
the
director
of
that
organization
is
really
motivated
to
work
with
us.
He
is
a
former
federal
prosecutor
and
he
has
a
lot
of
expertise
in
this
area.
C
So
what
the
report
doesn't
talk
about-
and
you
know
now
that
we're
three
months
or
four
months
into
2021
this
is
this-
is
kind
of
a
little
bit
difficult.
C
The
report
was
created
in
november
of
last
year,
so
it
doesn't
talk
about
some
things
after
november
that
are
really
critical
and
one
of
those
was
the
implementation
of
traffic.
Stop
data
collection
using
field
contact
cards.
Captain
bruder
is
actually
was
that
was
the
driving
force
behind
that
he
got
that
done.
He
tested
it
with
his
group
and
then
he's
been
really
really
he's
worked
really
hard
on
that
project,
and
so
there's
some
challenges
here.
It's
not
going
to
be
perfect,
but
we
are.
C
They
would
be
asking
a
citizen
for
their
identification
or
their
information
in
a
situation
where
they
don't
really
need
to,
and-
and
you
know,
in
our
opinion,
there
are
times
when
the
police
can
talk
to
a
citizen
and
not
create
a
record
and
that's
in
the
citizen's
best
interest.
C
If
it
rises
to
the
level
of
a
detention
or
an
investigative,
stop
or
there's
an
enforcement
action,
then
we
absolutely
create
that
record,
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
just
kind
of
making
sure
that
we're
getting
that
information
at
all
the
right
times,
but
we're
not
becoming
overly
intrusive
in
order
to
create
these
records.
C
The
next
big
thing
in
2021
is
we've
hired
our
social
media
manager.
We're
really
excited
he's
on
board.
Now.
I
think
I'm
allowed
to
announce
who
he
is.
His
name
might
be
a
little
familiar
to
some
of
you.
C
It's
it's
harv
jacobs,
formerly
of
channel
five,
and
so
he
has
a
lot
of
expertise
and
experience
in
public
communication,
and
one
of
his
areas
of
expertise
is
being
able
to
tell
stories
in
a
very
short
period
of
time,
because
that
that
is
the
job
of
the
media
is
to
be
able
to
to
give
you
complex
information
in
a
very
direct
and
short
way,
and
so
I'm
I've
asked
him
for
his
advice
and
help
because,
as
you
know,
I
had
nothing
I
say
is
ever
short
and
then
the
third
thing
is
the
implementation
of
c
pop
and
q
markets.
C
C
pop
is
our
project
with
professor
haberman
and
that's
the
community
problem
solving
project.
The
q
markets
is
the
is
the
crowdsourcing
project
that
problem-solving
project
is
moving
into
the
training
phase
and
then
what
we
hope
to
do
is
equip
all
of
our
officers
with
the
ability
to
identify
and
work
with
community
partners
to
solve
problems
rather
rather
than
just
approach.
Everything
with
enforcement
enforcement
might
be
part
of
problem
solving.
It
doesn't
completely
replace
enforcement,
but
it
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
maybe
look
for
alternatives
and,
finally,
with
the
illumination
project.
C
As
a
reminder,
I
didn't
get
any
feedback
specifically
on
the
illumination
project
report,
but
this
is
kind
of
an
overview
of
that
and
what
I
did
with
the
illumination
project
is.
I
looked
at
all
of
this
threat.
There
were
more
than
80
strategies
recommended
by
the
illumination
project,
and
I
looked
at
those,
and
I
asked
questions
to
find
out
what
happened
to
these
strategies.
C
Are
we
still
doing
them?
Did
we
did
we
do
them
and
stop
doing
them
or
did
we
did
we
complete?
Whatever
the
strategy
was,
and
so
what
I?
This
is
what
I
found
this
was
the
breakdown
of
it.
I
found
that
at
least
half
of
those
strategies
recommended
by
the
illumination
project
are
rolled
into
the
strategic
leadership
plan,
so
they've
been
like
baked
into
the
dna
of
the
department.
C
Another
38
of
those
strategies
were
also
addressed
by
the
racial
bias
audit,
so
they
are
a
priority
to
us
as
a
result
of
that
we
completed
19
and
then
20
were
discontinued
or
uninitiated
and
and
31
and
you'll
notice.
This
doesn't
add
up
to
100.
C
It's
not
meant
to
these
are
overlapping
assessments,
and
I
noted
that
31
of
the
strategies
were
intended
for
citizen
implementation,
because
it
seemed
to
me
that
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
to
sustaining
these
strategies
was
ownership
of
the
strategies,
and
so
some
of
those
strategies
that
were
written
for
the
citizens
to
implement
and
take
ownership
of
were
actually
transferred
to
the
department
and
the
department
took
ownership
of
them
and
they're
working
to
make
sure
that
they
stay
alive.
C
Not
all
of
them
were
transferable,
and
some
of
them
were
just
you
know
not
initiated,
or
they
belong
to
an
organization
that
doesn't
report
to
us.
So
we
don't
have
a
good
way
of
tracking
it.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
that
was
really
very
informative.
I
I
do
have
one
question
the
discontinued
or
uninitiated
strategies.
Those
were
discontinued
or
uninitiated
for
do.
We
know
the
reason
why.
C
A
lot
of
them
were
things
like
the
the
illumination
project
recommended
that
we
create
a
separate
council
for
a
different
function
and
and
and
the
department
found
that
it
was
just
too
difficult
to
have
a
lot
of
different
community
organizations
and
or
you
would
have
community
meetings
and
like
one
or
two
people
would
show
up
to
them,
and
so
some
of
those
things
you
know,
rather
than
having
three
different
councils
to
take
on
three
different
things.
C
We
came
to
cpac
and,
and
we
we
trust
cpac
with
doing
the
things
that
were
originally
intended
by
the
illumination
project,
to
be
done
by
a
separate
group.
A
Thank
you
and
one
other
that
brought
to
mind
the
fact
that
we
did
want
to
include
photos
of
the
cpac
members
in
the
document
and
so
the
audience
council
members,
the
audio-visual
department
of
the
police
department,
has
offered
to
take
photos
for
us
on
april
12th
april
13
april
15th
individual
photos
again.
Those
dates
are
april,
12th
april
13th
and
april
15th
between
the
hours
of
9,
00
a.m
and
11
or
1
p.m
and
3
p.m.
A
So
I'm
asking
please
that
each
council
member
would
avail
yourself
next
week,
either
on
april
12th,
13th
or
15th
between
9
00
a.m,
to
11
a.m
or
1
p.m,
to
3
p.m,
for
your
photo
to
be
taken
and
the
address
the
location
is
the
new
building.
That's
on
b's
ferry
road.
The
address
is
1975
bee's
ferry
road.
A
A
If
you
are
unable
to
do
so,
please
send
an
email
to
me
so
that
we
will
know
we
would
hate
to
put
some
photos
in
and
then
put
no
photo
available
for
for
the
ones
who
are
unable
to
to
go
to
take
the
picture
and
chief
reynolds.
Thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
the
audio
visual
department
to
offer
that
to
us.
We
really
appreciate
it
matter
of
fact.
The
background
will
look
similar
to
the
background
of
captain
brooder's
picture
that
he
has
on
right
now
and
thank
you
for
doing
that.
A
B
Twan
mr
harris
has
his
hand
up.
K
So,
madam
chair,
the
presentation
on
the
illumi
illumination
project,
when
you
read
it-
and
I
don't
know
how
many
members
of
the
the
council
have
read
it,
many
of
the
community-facing
recommendations
are
forwarded
to
cpac.
Cpac
is
the
answer
to
to
that.
I
am
not
at
all
certain
that
we
have
thoroughly
embraced
that
as
part
of
our
culture,
understanding
that
we
are
my
success.
K
I
know
you
know
it
because
you
went
through
the
entire
piece,
but
the
degree
to
which
there
is
community
facing
concerns
to
the
degree
to
which
the
illumination
project
emerged
out
of
questions
of
racialized
disparities
and
equal
justice
and
to
a
certain
state.
K
The
racial
bias
audit
speaks
to
the
same
the
same
set
of
questions,
I'm
not
certain
that
we've
come
to
grips
with
how
we
organize
ourselves
or
address
ourselves
to
that
work,
since
that
is
now
part
of
our
charge,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
been
urging-
and
I
mentioned
this
on
a
couple
of
prior
occasions-
you
know
us
revisiting
the
guidelines,
particularly
the
section
that
talks
about
the
actions
that
the
counselor
suggested
to
undertake
to
make
certain
that
we've
incorporated
our
successor
function
for
the
illumination
project
and
fully
incorporated
those
aspects
associated
with
the
racial
bias
audit
as
well.
A
Right,
that's
the
reason
why
one
of
the
accomplishments
that
you
saw
listed
and
what
wendy
showed
us
is
the
fact
that
we
have
been
able
to
establish
some
subcommittees
to
work
on
some
of
those
issues,
and
I
think
it's
critical
for
us
to
continue
to
work
on
the
subcommittees
as
well
as
develop
others
to
tackle
some
of
those
other
issues.
A
We
do
know
that
there
there
are
a
lot
of
issues
that
are
listed
there
and
if
you
haven't
gotten
a
chance
to
read
the
report,
I
know
wendy
mentioned
that
she
received
comments
from
from
councilwoman
doris
grant.
If
you
get
a
chance
to
you,
you
are
past
the
point.
We're
past
the
point
for
submitting
comments.
However,
you
can
still
avail
yourself
to
read
the
information
so
that
you
could
get
that
level
of
understanding.
A
Councilman
harris
is
talking
about
because
it
is
important,
I
believe,
for
us
to
try
to
work
as
many
issues
as
we
can.
We
do
have
other
members
on
the
council
who
are
not
right
now
on
a
subcommittee,
so
there's
opportunity
to
be
tackling
some
of
those
additional
issues.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
point
out.
Councilman
harris.
K
Just
one
other
additional
point:
in
her
report,
wendy
identified
a
series
of
technical
assistance,
data
collection,
related
activities
and
in
our
current
configuration
of
of
committees
and
structure,
we
don't,
in
my
opinion,
have
kind
of
the
kind
of
rapid
response
in
interaction
that
may
be
suggested
there,
and-
and
perhaps
madam
chair,
you
and
paul-
can
can
chat
about
that
with
wendy
and
try
and
figure
out
how
we
might
create
a
some
kind
of
a
structure.
K
A
You
know
and
actually
listening
to
you
say
that
it
it.
It
does
border
itself
into
the
communication
subcommittee
of
which
you
are
a
member
as
well,
so
that
might
be
something
councilman
tamborino.
We
can
add
to
the
agenda
for
the
communication
subcommittee
meeting,
because
that
is
more
so
a
communications
aspect
than
just
data
collection
and
data,
manipulation.
D
A
Thank
you,
perfect,
okay,
so
then,
let's
move
any
any
other
comments
about
the
illumination
project
or
one-year
audit
thanks
again
wendy
stiffer
for
for
sharing
that
with
us,
and
I
hope
everyone
got
a
chance
to
really
digest
it.
A
A
A
A
So
what
I
need
tonight
is
a
vote
from
the
council
as
to
which
one
of
those
sets
of
sessions.
We
would
like
captain
thomas
to
go
ahead
and
firm
up
for
us,
and
this
would
be
the
opportunity
where
those
who
did
not
get
a
chance
to
participate
in
ride-alongs,
which
I
think
the
majority
of
the
council
members
now
have
not
did
not
get
a
chance
to
participate
in
those.
A
A
A
Got
you
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
as
we
probably
move
and
seconded
that
the
sessions
the
set
of
sessions
that
we
accept
october,
6,
13,
20
and
27..
A
Are
we
ready
for
discussion
question
all
those
in
favor
of
the
october
date,
6,
13,
20
and
27
for
the
citizens
academy?
Please
thumbs
up
one
two,
three,
four:
five:
six,
seven!
Okay,
all
right!
That's
eight
gotcha!
Cam
ryan.
Did
you
vote
not
yet?
Okay?
So
that's
eight!
For
the
october.
All
those
opposed
please
use
the
same
sign.
A
A
Else
has
their
friends:
okay,
frank:
you
did
vote
okay,
gotcha
all
right!
Well,
then
we're
good
to
go
so
our
citizens
academy
will
be
october.
6Th,
13th,
20th
and
27th
I'll.
Make
sure
captain
thompson
knows
that
and
please
stay
tuned
to
emails,
to
remind
us
of
that
fact,
and
again
the
times
are
6
30
to
8
30
pm.
A
M
Madam
chair,
if
you
don't
mind,
I'm
going
to
follow
up
with
captain
thompson
to
make
sure
that,
if
somebody,
if
one
of
the
council
members
can't
get
into
the
october
one
if
they
can,
if
they
can
be
scheduled
for
the
november
for
the
for
the
subsequent
one,
because
I
believe
he's
going
to
have
more
than
one
ours,
I
think
was
just
truncated.
Due
to
the
fact
that
we
don't
need
one
of
the
classes.
A
O
I'll
briefly
talk
with
captain
thompson
about
this.
In
case
people
had
questions
and
I
think
that's.
I
can
speak
on
his
behalf
to
say:
yeah,
we're
gonna
do
a
special
one
for
the
cpap
group,
but
we'll
if
anybody
can't
get
into
that
one
or
or
has
to
make
up
a
session
or
something
like
that,
we
can
work
you
into
the
next
regular
session.
Of
course
it
won't
be
as
targeted
for
cpac,
but
it
will
be
the
regular
citizens
academy
and
they
typically
do
those.
O
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
paul
we
got
that
settled.
Thank
you
all
right.
Community
engagement,
captain
brutal
since
you
talked
with
captain
thompson.
Are
you?
Is
there
any
additional
information
you
wanted
to
add
on
community
engagement.
O
E
O
Chief,
I
think
they
had
a
full
class.
I
think
they
had
a
good
response
for
a
full
class
for
that.
L
It
was
a
very
engaged
group
and
I
think,
because
of
the
covid,
I
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
think
they're
they're
trying
to
keep
it
a
little
bit
smaller
than
groups
in
the
past.
But
we
had
a
great
great
time
last
night
with
the
group
that
was
there
a
little
bit
smaller,
I
think,
than
what
we
have.
But
I
think
that
was
somewhat.
L
A
L
One
of
the
cases
that
was
federally
adopted
and
pro
is
being
prosecuted
by
the
u.s
attorney's
office
actually
was
going
to
come
today
and
be
heard
as
a
a
plea
and
it
got
postponed,
but
I
actually
was
going
to
be
present
and
speak
if
given
an
opportunity
in
terms
of
impact
on
our
city
impact
on
the
police
department
impact
on
our
residents
from
in
this
particular
case,
it
was
an
arson
to
one
of
our
vehicles,
and
that
was
the
person
that
was
arrested
and
charged
federally.
L
L
L
The
charleston
fire
department,
estimated
for
the
purposes
of
the
report
that
property
that
was
saved
and
protected
included
an
estimate
of
almost
25
million
dollars
and
the
contents
being
over
three
million
dollars.
L
L
What
has
happened
since
then?
Now
a
total
89
parade
permits
issued
from
july
9th
2020
to
december
31st
at
the
end
of
the
year
so,
and
there
have
been
many
many
since
then,
at
the
time
of
our
update,
there
had
been
60,
but
there's
been
many
more
since
then.
Jason
can
probably
give
us
an
update
of
the
number
in
this
current
year
of
2021..
L
We
also
in
the
community
feedback
session
we
reached
out
to
citizen
police
advisory
council,
of
course,
the
business
and
neighborhood
services,
the
neighborhood
associations,
members
of
city
council,
to
obtain
volunteers
to
tell
stories
and
provide
feedback
regarding
cpd's
response
to
the
events
during
october
28,
public
safety
committee
meetings,
citizens
called
in
for
comment
and
the
deadline
to
provide
information
was
extended
through
the
end
of
the
year
to
december
31st.
L
And
numerous
stories
within
that
group
and
criticisms
and
complaints,
we
received
investigated
15
complaints
and
reviewed
extensive
hours
of
body-worn
camera
video,
and
there
was
also
a
section
within
the
report
where
I
made
some
final
thoughts
and
observations
and
comments.
K
About
just
really
quickly,
chief
given
what's
happening
in
minnesota,
the
case
and
the
anxiety
about
the
outcome
on
any
lessons
learned
or
preparation,
or
help
that
we
may
be
able
to
provide
you
in
getting
ready
for
whatever
the
response
the
community
response
might
be
to
that
situation.
L
Yeah,
you
know,
jerome,
you
always
have
phenomenal
questions
and
I
think,
that's
probably
of
the
entire
night,
a
question
that
hits
the
sweet
spot.
There's
people
throughout
our
community
throughout
our
region
throughout
our
state
around
our
country
throughout
the
world.
L
Frankly,
that
are
following
every
day
the
24-hour
coverage
of
this
trial
of
the
killing
of
george
floyd,
and
it
is
reliving
the
pain
of
that
murder
and
the
moments
where
the
officer
shovin
who's
on
trial,
among
others,
had
his
knee
on
george
floyd's
neck,
and
I
said
it
days
after
that
occurred
and
I'll
say
it
again.
It
was
despicable
what
that
officer
did
it
was
wrong.
L
It
wasn't
consistent
with
any
any
practice
or
any
policy
that
I'm
aware
of
other
than
a
violation
of
the
criminal
code
frankly,
and
that
any
agency
would
support-
or
it
wasn't
consistent
from
what
I
can
hear
from
their
chief
from
their
trainers
and
from
others
that
it
was
not
consistent
with
any
of
their
training
with
their
policies
or
any
of
their
practices
that
it
wasn't
acceptable.
L
And
so,
but
more
specifically,
I
think
it's
important
for
me
to
state
that,
and
but
more
specifically,
as
people
watch
and
relive
that
moment
in
our
country
that
embarrassing
despicable
moment
it
has
got
people
very
angry
once
again
and
if
there
was
any
break
or
lull
in
the
anger,
it
has
been
re-heightened
from
a
racial
perspective
from
an
equity
perspective
from
a
violence
perspective.
L
L
Isn't
it
great
that
we
have
a
chief,
that's
finally
willing
to
speak
up
and
call
it
like
it
is
well,
I
I
take
a
little
bit
exception
to
that
in
that
there's
many
chiefs
that
are
willing
to
speak
up
and
I'm
one
of
them
and
to
call
it
like
it
is.
L
And
frankly,
I
will
not
wear
this
badge
the
day
that
I'm
unwilling
to
speak
up
and
call
out
despicable
actions
hold
ourselves
accountable
to
set
a
very
high
bar
and
a
very
high
standard
for
what
we
do,
how
we
do
it,
why
we
do
it,
I
believe
in
our
profession,
I
believe
in
the
men
and
women
in
this
organization
and
what
we
do
and
how
we
do
it,
and
I
have
a
very
high
expectation
that
we
do
it
right.
Not
perfectly.
We
make
mistakes,
but
a
criminal
act
like
that.
L
I
promise
you
he's
not
the
only
chief
who's
called
out
a
rogue
officer
who
has
behaved
in
such
a
terrible
way
and
and
I'd
say,
that's
the
worst
I've
ever
seen,
but
I've
seen
a
lot
of
bad
things
over
the
years,
and
I
I
think
it's
important
to
acknowledge
the
significance
of
this
moment.
This
trial,
the
fact
that
people
are
watching
it.
So
that
being
said,
we
are
watching
this
very
closely.
L
We
as
a
profession
as
a
city
as
a
region
as
a
state
federal
state.
Local
partners
are
all
talking
about
this.
We're
following
the
information
not
only
in
the
trial,
but
what
we
see
people
are
talking
about:
the
different
groups
that
have
stated
that
they're
gonna
have
violence
and
and
there's
people
on
social
media.
As
you
all
know,
that
say
all
kinds
of
things
all
the
time
and
we
have
to
see
what
and
discern
and
follow
that
information
share
with
each
other.
L
What
we
feel
the
threat
is,
and
we
have
to
prepare
for
the
worst
and
hope
for
the
best.
We
always
do
that,
and
so
we
learned
a
lot
of
lessons
on
may
30
2020,
and
here
we
are
almost
a
year
later,
reliving
that
entire
event
all
over
again
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
very
concerned
that
we're
going
to
have
riots
in
our
in
our
cities
again
based
on
what
the
verdict
is.
L
So,
yes,
everybody
can
do
a
lot
about
that
because
I
think
our
country
was
very
divided
back
then
I
think
we
can
be
more
united
as
a
city,
and
we
can
learn
from
this
moment,
learn
from
last
year
and
the
faith
community.
Our
government
leaders,
the
mayor
and
our
council
are
talking
quite
a
bit
about
our
preparation
for
this,
and
not
just
our
response
to
some
type
of
violent
event.
We
need
to
have
a
different
outcome
this
time.
L
L
That's
why
we
are
embracing
this
conversation,
why
we
are
doing
our
best
to
grind
through
this
to
make
sure
that
we
have
policies
so
that
we
never
have
anything
like
that
happen
in
our
city,
so
that
we
do
have
some
level
of
trust
that
we
have
some
level
of
genuine
transparency
and
authenticity
so
that
we
are
leading
in
such
a
way
that
we
are
not
creating
harm
that
we
are
an
asset
to
and
with
our
communities,
to
help
them
with
the
needs
of
public
safety
in
our
city,
this
great
city,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
planning
behind
the
scenes.
L
But
I'll
tell
you.
The
biggest
thing
that
we
can
do
is
communicate
and
talk
about
these
issues
so
that
we
never
have
an
event
like
that.
In
our
lifetimes
ever
in
this
city
again,
so
our
goal
is
to
communicate
to
do
outreach
to
make
sure
that
we
prevent
anything
like
that
and,
of
course,
that
we're
prepared
that
we
can
respond
but
preparing
and
responding
after
the
fact
is
really
not
the
answer.
That's
part
of
the
answer.
If
we
have
to
do
that,
that's
exactly
what
we'll
do
and
we're
working
on
all
those
contingencies.
L
Sled
has
a
very
substantial
network
with
our
federal
and
state
local
partners,
and
everybody
talks
we're
actually
meeting
as
a
region
to
discuss
how
we
can
work
with
our
communities
and
how
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
prepared
and
that
we're
communicating
more
proactive
and
engaging
with
our
communities.
L
So
we
can't
police
our
communities
by
ourselves.
We've
said
that
the
whole
idea
of
reimagine
policing,
when
you
look
at
people
that
are
suffering
with
mental
health
issues.
When
you
look
at
homelessness,
when
you
look
at
the
opioids,
when
you
look
at
so
many
different
issues
that
our
communities
are
struggling
with,
the
police
are
not
the
only
game
in
town.
We're
not
the
only
ones
that
can
go
in
in
the
calvary
that
are
going
to
just
set
everything
right.
L
We
have
to
work
closely
with
all
of
our
partners
and
it
takes
a
lot
of
work,
and
this
is
a
big
part
of
that
effort
and
that's,
probably
more
than
everybody
wanted
to
hear
jason's
on
the
call
tony's
on
the
call
they've
done
a
lot
chief
walker's
on
the
call
wendy
we've
talked
extensively
about
these
issues.
L
We
have
not
stopped
responding
to
protests
and
respecting
people's
rights
and
and
not
to
get
off
track.
But
you
know
I'm
very
concerned.
I
will
tell
you
in
the
legislature
about
this
constitutional
carry
amendment
which
passed
a
couple
days
ago
in
the
house.
It's
going
to
go
in
the
senate,
I'm
reaching
out
to
people.
L
I
am
adamantly
opposed
to
constitutional
care,
for
so
many
reasons,
but
I
know
we
don't
have
enough
time
to
go
over
all
those
things
tonight,
but
I
will
tell
you
we
need
to
be
engaged
in
our
in
our
cities
and
our
legislature
in
our
communities
to
talk.
There
are
so
many
good
people
in
our
communities
that
do
not
want
a
riot
again,
not
just
the
business
community,
all
of
our
residential
communities.
A
Thank
you
chief.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I
see
that
councilman
tamarino
has
his
hand
up
too.
M
Jerry
stole
my
question
because
I,
as
people
are
figuring
out,
we
share
a
brain
most
of
the
time.
So
the
same
question
so
chief,
a
lot
of
what
you
talked
about
is
great
and
you're.
Talking
about
you
know
the
planning
behind
the
scenes
and
the
communications
behind
the
scenes
have
you
has
your
public
information
office
and
your
new
social
media
director?
M
Have
you
considered
the
idea
that
it
would
probably
be
a
good
thing
to
do
a
series
of
public
service
announcements
announcing
and
and
addressing
proactively
the
environment,
the
compassion,
but
also
steps
that
are
going
to
be
taken
so
that
the
business
leaders
are
reassured
that
there's
going
to
be
a
plan
this
time
that
you're
prepared
for
it
that
you
know
this
is
not
going
to
be
what
we
saw
a
year
ago,
and
you
know
that's.
You
know,
for
many
reasons,
that's
the
big
concern.
L
Yeah,
that's
a
something
that
we've
talked
about
at
great
length
and
and
of
course,
nothing
has
stopped
since
may
30th
of
last
year,
our
operational
tempo,
the
number
of
protests
that
we
have
every
single
week,
the
focus
that
we
have
on
those
protests,
the
amount
of
effort
that
we
give
to
communicate
with
all
of
our
communities,
they're
impacted
by
those
protests
and
navigating
through
those
first
amendment
issues.
It's
it's
an
ongoing
thing.
This
is
not
a
new
event,
and
so
this
is
something
that
we
have
to
continue
to
have
dialogue
on.
L
We
absolutely
are
doing
some
outreach.
We
also
don't
want
to
create
something
that
doesn't
exist.
Yet
we
don't
there's
a
lot
of
anxiety,
it's
something
that
we
have
to
talk
about.
We
have
to
address,
but
we
have
to
be
very
careful
not
to
just
address
one
group
and
not
address
the
other
or
just
address
the
idea
of
okay,
we're
not
going
to
have
protests,
or
this
is
all
tied
together,
procedural
justice,
it's
tied
into
the
audit,
it's
tied
into
the
the
follow-up
to
the
illumination
project,
it's
tiled
into
the
cpac.
L
All
these
things
are
tied
in
so
there's
not
any
one,
singular
psa,
that's
going
to
just
okay,
great
job.
You
hit
it
out
of
the
park
with
that
psa
everybody's
happy.
Now
we
really
want
to
be
much
more
about
substance,
about
timeliness,
about
relevance
and
the
importance
of
what
information
we
do
know
and
as
we
get
that
information
and
as
things
emerge,
we
are
going
to
be
sharing
that
yes,.
A
What
feelings
are
so
that
does
speak
volumes
to
your
leadership.
We
sincerely
appreciate
that.
We
look
forward
to
that
continuing
because
it's
through
those
kinds
of
actions
that
we
was
we
will
hopefully
get
improved
relationships
between
the
police
department
and
the
community,
the
citizens
in
the
community.
We
understand
that
enforcement
has
to
occur.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
just
as
you
said
that
it's
done
in
an
enforcing
style
and
not
in
a
style
that's
to
bring
about
what
we
are
all
reliving
now
through
the
court
case
from
minnesota.
A
L
Do
you
mind
if
I've
cherry
at
the
risk
of
I
don't?
I
don't
want
to
take
all
the
time
on
this
one
question,
but
do
you
have
thoughts
on
how
we
can,
as
a
community
there's
obviously
a
lot?
The
police
department
needs
to
do,
but
I
feel
like
public
safety
is
a
community
burden.
It's
not
just
the
police.
We
all
know
that
it's
a
shared
responsibility
that
everybody
has
is
there.
L
Are
there
thoughts
that
you
have,
and
I
I
certainly
have
some
in
coordinating
with
others,
the
mayor
and
and
the
people
leaders
in
the
faith
community
and
in
our
neighborhoods.
L
L
Sometimes
the
communities
that
really
are
struggling
already
are
impacted,
even
more
so
by
events
like
this
and
so
there's
no
easy
answer.
I
don't
expect
you
to
just
hey,
you
know,
come
up
with
the
magic
dust
and
sprinkle
it
out
there.
It
doesn't
exist,
but
any
reflections
on
how
we
can
all
to
me
I'm
very
optimistic
right
now,
I'm
not
I
don't
I'm
we're
this
trial
itself
is
problematic,
but
I'm
optimistic
about
where
we're
headed,
but
my
my
word
of
the
day
of
the
year
is,
is
together.
L
K
No,
I
don't
chief,
I
don't
have
a
specific
kind
of
idea,
but
I
I
think
that
in
some
way,
whoever
is
is
the
lead
in
the
organization.
Paul's
talked
about
the
media
component,
the
community
conversations
in
terms
of
who
we,
who
are
we
talking
to
who
are
the
networks
that
we
talked
talking,
people
coming
together
sharing,
quite
frankly,
some
of
the
anxiety
that
I
know
well.
K
I
believe
I
think
I
know
I
feel
in
the
sense
that
the
law
enforcement
family
are
feeling
and
kind
of
getting
folks
on
on
the
same
level
right
and
coming
up
with.
This
is
what
we
want
to
happen
in
charleston
right.
K
K
A
And
I
think,
additionally,
going
back
the
members
of
cpac
actually
going
back
and
talking
within
their
neighborhoods
within
their
various
groups,
the
faith
communities
that
we're
members
of
the
the
neighborhoods
or
organizations
that
we're
members
of
and
sharing
that
information
can
help
to
bring
about
that
positive.
The
positive
outcome,
the
meetings
that
you
have
been
doing,
chief
right
after
some
incident
has
occurred.
A
I've
looked
around
at
the
folks
that
have
been
invited
to
attend
those
sessions
and
it
really
is
a
a
good
cross-section
of
of
critical
masses
in
the
community
that
can
help
to
get
that
message
across,
and
I
think
we
continue
if
you
continue
to
do
that,
it's
going
to
take
some
time.
Yes,
but
if
each
person
works
at
it
on
this
council
as
well,
I
think
I
think
the
message
will
change
it.
A
Just
is
going
to
take
some
time,
and
it's
just
so
sad
that
that
we're
at
this
point
right
now
with
the
with
the
court
case
being
played
again,
you
know
everything's,
starting
all
over
again.
It
just
kind
of
brings
up
all
of
the
feelings
again
paul.
You
had
your
hand
up
too
yeah
we're.
M
Pretty,
I
would
say,
we're
pretty
well
represented
for
our
neighborhoods
and
chief
you've
got
a
good
connection
of
clergy
and
community
leaders,
and
you
know
we
each
represent
a
district
and
then
you've
got
two
hospital
leaders.
The
thing
that's
always
a
gap
for
me
in
the
activism
side
is
your
college
campuses
that
are
not
represented
by
any
of
this
and
you're.
M
Talking
about
you
know,
that's
a
big
age
for
activism
and
being
involved
in
the
protests,
and
you
know
it's
the
it's
the
right
age,
demographic
too,
for
a
lot
of
sometimes
the
bad
things
that
we
see.
So
you
know
potentially
when
this
verdict
comes
out
when
different
things
happen,
you
know
a
lot
of
those
college.
Kids,
you
know
a
lot
of
them
come
from
out
of
town,
so
they're
not
affected
by
the
local
clergy,
and
things
like
that.
M
A
And
chief,
you
want
to
go
on
and
talk
well,
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
officer
involved
shootings,
but
not
in
great
detail
and
then
the
khalia
audit
and
the
complaint
process
with
the
time
that
we
have
left.
L
L
Thank
you,
so
the
swan
just
referenced
our
protocol
and
I'll
explain
our
protocol
and
then
I'll
touch
on
the
three
officer-involved
shootings
that
we've
had.
L
I,
I
believe,
and
I've
been
told
and
tony
or
cheeto
you
can
jason
help
me
out
if
you
have
anything
to
add,
but
in
approximately
a
10
year
period
we
had
five
officer
involved
shootings
to
give
you
kind
of
a
general
idea
of
how
many
we
might
have.
In
the
past,
we
had
three
officer-involved
shootings
in
a
just
a
little
over
two-month
period,
starting
at
the
end
of
last
year.
L
In
late
december
was
our
first
one
and
I'll
talk
about
three,
those
three
briefly
they're,
all
the
the
bridgeview
one
is
the
the
one
that
occurred
in
december
and
that's
that's
the
only
one
that's
been
kind
of
cleared
at
this
point.
The
others
are
still
under
investigation
and
and
I'll
talk
about
the
protocol.
L
That,
I
think
is
important.
Everybody
here
is
what
we
will
do
in
these
cases.
Moving
forward
one,
we
will
respond
to
the
scene
of
the
incident
immediately
and
I
I
personally,
unless
for
some
reason,
I'm
out
of
town
or
unable
to
do
that
will
always
be
on
the
scene,
and
I
think
everybody
in
this
this.
This
call
has
been
on
all
of
the
scenes
of
each
one
of
these.
L
We
will
make
a
statement.
I
specifically
within
a
couple
hours
on
the
scene,
we'll
make
a
statement
about
what
we
know
to
to
make
sure
that
we
at
least
share
what
we
know.
There's
not
always
everything
that
we
can
share,
but
we'll
share
what
we
know
and
then
the
within
a
day
which
is
usually
the
following
day.
We
will
do
another
meeting
with
our
stakeholders,
which
is
what
tuan
was
talking
about,
that
we've
done
each
of
these
three.
L
It's
a
protocol
that
we
created
that
we've
implemented
that
we're
trying
to
be
consistent
about,
and
in
that
meeting
we
will
talk
to
our
stakeholders
about
what
the
investigative
process
is.
We
can't
always
answer
all
the
questions,
because
it's
so
early
when
you
have
an
incident
like
that,
there's
so
much.
We
need
to
do
to
protect
the
integrity
and
the
independence
of
an
investigation
like
that.
So
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
that
investigation.
L
Sled
responds
out
immediately
and
unless
they're
they're,
somehow
otherwise
busy
on
another
incident,
don't
have
the
resources
they
they
always
do
their
own
crime,
scene,
processing,
forensics
their
own
crime,
scene,
team
and
texts
that
come
out.
They
do
the
interviews
they
they
get.
The
body
camera
footage
which
is
obtained
by
them
and
a
whole
variety
of
other
things
and
there's
a
protocol
in
writing.
That's
been
a
lot
of
people
have
had
input
on
it.
The
defense
attorneys
the
the
prosecutors,
the
the
police
chiefs
and
sheriffs
and
different
agencies.
L
Detectives
investigators
have
had
input
in
creating
a
protocol
of
how
these
will
be
investigated
and
making
sure
that
they're
done
with
clarity
with
professionalism
that
they're
thorough.
That
they're,
timely
and
amongst
the
protocol
that's
been
developed.
Sled
has
agreed
that
they'll
do
their
investigation
within
60
days,
which
seems
like
a
lot,
but
it's
actually
that's
pretty
quick.
L
Parallel
to
that,
there's
also
a
administrative
investigation
by
our
internal
affairs
division
and
that's
something
that
tony
cortell
is
on
the
line
he's
the
director
of
our
internal
affairs
division.
We
call
our
professional
standards
office
and
we
incorporate
things
like
training
policy
issues.
Lessons
learned,
there's
always
an
after
action
to
review.
What
are
the
things
that
we
can
learn
from
things
that
could
have
been
done
differently
or
done
better,
there's,
always
no
matter
how
well
something's
handled,
there's
always
room
for
improvement.
L
So
that's
the
process,
that's
important,
so
that
if
you
see
something
you
kind
of
begin
to
know
what
to
expect.
This
is
what
the
chief's
going
to
do.
I
think
it
helps
the
officers
it
helps
the
community
and
everybody
understand
and
there's
a
level
of
transparency
that
we've
committed
to
one
of
the
things
that
we
also
do
is
within
72
hours,
and
usually
it's
maybe
around
that
time
frame,
maybe
even
a
little
bit
sooner.
We
release
the
officers
names,
that's
something
that
has
been
requested.
It's
something
that
eventually
gets
out.
L
It's
something
that
sled
and
other
agencies
always
do,
but
not
all
agencies
do
that,
but
we've
committed
to
that,
because
we
believe
that
one,
the
officers
names
are
going
to
get
out
eventually
and
we
don't
need
that
to
be
the
story.
L
There's
a
lot
of
sensitivity
behind
that,
though,
because
when
we
release
the
officers
names
that
affects
their
family,
that
affects
them,
there's
some
people
that
might
get
on
social
media
and
attack
them
or
their
family.
Maybe
their
spouse
works
in
in
in
a
school
or
wherever.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
to
be
considered
before
we
do
that,
so
that
the
family
has
an
opportunity
to
react
to
that.
To
the
fact
that
that's
going
to
happen,
it's
really
can
be
very
traumatic
to
have
your
officers
names
released
in
a
critical
incident
like
that.
L
So
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
that
discussion.
That
preparation,
that's
part
of
our
protocol,
I'll
tell
you
sled
as
an
example.
Their
officers
know
ahead
of
time,
and
our
officers
know
this
ahead
of
time.
We've
talked
about
it
a
lot
this
year,
especially
and
and
and
kind
of
so
that
everybody
knows
if
they're
new
to
our
department.
They
didn't
know
that
already
that
that's
our
practice
but
sled
actually
automatically
releases
the
names
immediately.
They
don't
wait.
They
don't
wait
a
day
or
two
or
three
they
just
the
names
go
out.
L
So
specific.
To
these
three
instances
we
had
the
first
one
in
bridgeview
we
had
a
28
year
old
subject.
We
got
called
to
the
apartments
for
a
domestic
violence
related
call
where
a
female
in
an
apartment
was
afraid
she
was
in
fear,
and
she
called
us
to
help.
L
L
He
was
not
supposed
to
be
carrying
a
among
those,
those
other
felony
violent
charges.
He
was
not
supposed
to
have
in
his
possession
a
weapon,
he
had
a
rifle,
a
long
gun
which
he
fired
at
the
officers
and
he
also
had
a
handgun
one
of
the
officers
was
struck
with
a
round.
Thankfully,
it
actually
hit
his
nameplate
and
hit
his
vest,
and
he
was
not
further
injured
from
that
that
that
shot,
that
individual
approached
the
officers
there
was
an
exchange
of
guns,
fire
and
the
suspect
was
deceased
on
the
scene.
L
The
second
incident
that
we
had
was
a
an
incident
where
I'm
getting
my
my
incidents
mixed
up
a
little
bit
where
an
individual
was
in
georgetown
and
committed
a
murder.
He
killed
his
child's
his
his
former
girlfriend
his
baby's
mother's
new
boyfriend.
L
He
killed
him
violently
and
fled
and
stole
some
property,
and
he
was
on
the
run
for
a
few
days
at
some
point
in
mount
pleasant.
He
did
a
carjacking
and
on
carjacking,
where
he
pistol
whipped
a
gentleman
pretty
severely
injured
him
and
stole
his
car.
L
L
They
were
on
surveillance
shortly
after
that
on
meeting
street
just
outside
of
the
the
the
city
heading
into
north
charleston
and
and
tried
to
stop
his
car.
L
His
car
fled
briefly
crashed
into
a
phone
pole,
a
telephone
pole,
and
there
was
an
exchange
of
gunfire
where
a
shot
was
fired
at
the
suspect
who
was
armed,
and
he
was
given
life-saving
attention,
ironically
from
the
officer
involved
in
that,
and
that
that
case
is
still
on
being
investigated
by
sled,
and
we
do
not
want
to
taint
their
investigation
and
we
don't
want
to
do
anything
that
would
affect
their
investigation,
but
that
individual
was
injured
severely
and
was.
It
was-
and
I
said
this,
the
day
of
the
shooting.
L
This,
the
third
shooting
that
we
had,
we
had
an
individual
on
mary
ater
avenue
right
in
west
ashley
area
and
that
individual
fired
a
was
we
caught
got
again.
We
got
a
call
from
a
very
scared
and
concerned
citizen
and
saying
that
this
gentleman
had
a
rifle
and
was
threatening
people
and
was
agitated,
and
he
just
wasn't
really
making
much
sense
and
he
was
scaring
everybody
and
that
individual
was
barricaded
in
his
home.
We
responded.
L
We
evacuated
a
lot
of
the
neighbors
out
of
the
adjacent
apartments
and,
as
we
were,
setting
up,
he
fired
upon
one
of
our
officers.
The
officer
exchanged
fire
with
that
individual
who
was
struck
and
they
administered
a
first
aid
and
I'm
giving
you
the
very
brief
version
again.
This
is
still
under
investigation
and
that
individual
is
still
in
care
and
rehabilitation
from
being
shot.
L
L
That's
a
lot
of
officer-involved
shootings.
That's
a
lot
of
violent
people
carrying
guns.
I've
talked
about
this
before
we
had
any
of
these
shootings
that
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
increase
in
shootings
and
violence
in
our
city
and
the
people
that
are
carrying
guns
that
have
prior
lengthy
criminal,
violent
criminal
histories
that
are
carrying
guns
and
they're,
shooting
up
our
communities,
we're
arresting
them
every
day,
we're
working
with
a
solicitor
we're
working
with
the
us
attorney's
office,
we're
working
with
all
of
our
partnering
agencies,
federal
state
and
local.
L
Why
do
I
say
that,
in
the
context
of
this,
we
need
to
do
everything
we
can
to
keep
our
citizens
and
our
community
members
safe.
These
instances
easily
could
have
ended
very
differently.
I
am
convinced
that
that
suspect
from
georgetown
who
did
that
murder
who's
on
this
violent
spree
would
have
killed
somebody
else
or
injured
somebody
seriously.
If
we
had
not
stopped
him,
I'm
thankful
that
we
did
stop
him
and
nobody
else
did
get
seriously
injured
each.
L
So
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
in
our
communities
together
with
our
communities,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
there's
mainly
and
we
have
a
very
safe
city.
Despite
everything
I'm
saying
we
have
a
very
safe
city,
but
we
have
to
work
hard
to
keep
it.
That
way.
There's
been
an
increase
in
violent
crime,
not
just
here,
but
throughout
our
country
over
the
past
year,
we're
paying
very
close
attention
to
that.
L
Our
officers
are
working
diligently
in
the
in
those
areas
every
single
day
to
make
sure
that
we're
working
hard
to
get
that
small
number
of
violent
criminal
offenders
not
only
under
arrest,
but
we
need
to
keep
them
in
jail.
I'm
all
for
sentence
reform,
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
disrupting
the
pipeline
to
prison,
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
alternative
forms
of
punishment
other
than
jail.
I
don't
think
jail
is
a
very
productive
way
of
of
helping
people
rehabilitate,
etc,
etc.
L
But
there
are
some
people
that
are
violent
and
they're
repeat:
offenders
and
they're,
harming
our
cities
and
our
citizens
and
those
people
not
only
need
to
be
arrested,
but
they
need
to
be
kept
in
jail,
so
they
no
longer
reoffend
so
that
they
don't
hurt
themselves
or
others.
That's
my
my
my
officer-involved
shooting.
A
D
I
had
a
question:
I
have
a
question
for
the
chief.
You
talk
about
the
rise
of
gun,
violence
and
and
gangs
in
our
communities
and
from
a
police
stance.
You
know
the
typical
citizen
really
don't
know.
What's
going
on
in
our
community
on
that
level,
how
do
we
get
that
information
out
in
the
community
regarding?
D
L
Doris,
we
would
love
to
do
a
presentation
for
your
community
if
you
set
up
a
a
meeting
and
we
can
do
a
zoom
or
we
can
do
it
in
any
number
of
different
ways.
L
I
think
with
coven,
it's
inhibited
a
lot
of
our
our
meetings
about
things
like
this,
but
we're
you
know
a
lot
of
people
are
getting
vaccinated,
we're
we're
beginning
to
get
past
some
of
those
barriers,
and
so
we
we
have
a
a
product
that
we
can
deliver,
that
we
can
talk
about
and
because
I'll
tell
you
I
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
this
and
I'm
glad
you
asked
that
question,
there's
a
lot
of
people.
That
would
say:
oh,
we
don't
have
a
game
problem.
It's
not!
You
know
we
shouldn't
almost
like.
L
L
In
particular,
we've
done
presentations
with
our
solicitor's
office
with
our
u.s
attorney's
office,
with
a
lot
of
our
partners
around
the
region
and
actually
a
lot
of
different
groups,
and
so
we
we
we
think
that
would
be
beneficial,
because
if,
if
they're
recruiting
your
kids,
you
want
to
know
that
right,
you
want
to
know
what
are
some
things
that
we
can
look
out
for.
What
are
what
are
warning
signs
is
is
graffiti.
Is
that
a
problem
if
it
is?
How
can
we
report
it?
L
Who
do
we
report
it
to
so
you
can
get
it
a
tracking
of
it
and
so
that
you
can.
We
want
to
abate
those
things
and
and
get
rid
of
that
graffiti
as
quickly
as
we
can,
but
at
the
same
time
we
want
to
have
it
for
investigative
value,
so
they're
the
more
that
we
have
this
dialogue.
L
I
think
the
more
that
we
can
coordinate
and
and
again
I
feel
like
it's-
a
small
number
of
people
that
are
creating
disproportionately
a
lot
of
this
havoc
in
james
island
is
a
great
area
that
you
know.
We
could
talk
about
and
some
of
the
impacts
that
this
is
having
are
significant
and
we're
making
a
lot
of
arrests,
but,
like
we
can't
arrest
our
way
out
of
this
problem,
we
have
to
coordinate
with
all
of
our
community
groups.
We're
we've
reached
out
to
the
schools,
we're
doing
some
presentations
in
the
schools
as
well.
L
N
Yes,
ma'am.
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
on
some
of
the
things
that
chief
was
saying
yeah,
I
think
chief
reynolds.
There
was
an
event
that
we
had
with
reverend
middleton
and
and
the
county
sheriff's
office.
Was
there
too?
N
I
don't
remember
if
it
was
part
of
the
elimination
project,
but
I
know
that
a
lot
of
members
of
the
community
really
benefited
from
that
meeting
and
appreciated
that
the
city
police
department
came
out
and
was
there
as
well-
and
I
believe
you
spoke
at
that
meeting
too,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say.
N
I
know
that
I'm
from
james
island,
so
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
residents
there
have
confusion
between
which
municipality
is
actually
their
law
enforcement
division,
and
I
know
that
the
the
sheriff's
department
is
on
contract
with
the
town
of
james
island
with
sheriff's
island
patrol.
So
they
give
a
report
at
every
town
of
james
allen,
town
council
meeting,
but
I
was
thinking-
maybe
the
department
could
consider
including
team.
N
I
don't
know
if
it's
team,
two
or
three,
but
whichever
is
james
island,
maybe
those
officers
could
could
start
attending
and
giving
some
sort
of
status
update
on
in
any
type
of
action.
That's
that's
been
on
james
owen,
just
because
I
know
that
that
distinction
is
confusing,
and
I
think
that
that
stakeholders
would
would
like
to
hear
from
both
departments
at
those
meetings.
L
Absolutely,
I
think,
that's
a
great
suggestion
max
and
I
agree-
and
I
think
I
know
cheese
is
on
here-
I'm
sure
he's
taking
notes
as
we're
talking
and
we
will
do
that.
I
think
that's
a
great
suggestion
and
it's
good
timing
for
it.
A
Excuse
me
that
brings
up
that
reminded
me
of
the
fact
that
you're
working
on
a
strategic
planning,
video-
I
know
it
was
in
our
minutes
from
the
last
meeting,
and
I
thought
the
I
think
the
plan
is
that
that
would
be
shared
during
neighborhood
meetings.
I
I
have
a
question:
it
seemed
for
a
while-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
still
the
case-
that
there
was
like
a
big
problem
with
people
leaving
their
cars,
unlocked
and
guns
being
stolen
from
cars.
I
saw
it
all
the
time
on
our
neighborhood
groups.
Is
that
still
a
big
issue,
and
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
get
word
out
other
than
just
telling
people
to
keep
their
guns
inside
not
in
the
car?
L
It
is
and
if,
if
all
of
our
commanders
were
on
the
call
right
now,
they'd
be
clapping,
just
the
fact
that
you
even
asked
that
question
they
get
on
social
media
on
our
neighborhood
watch
listeners
on
I
mean
I
do.
I
forwarded
articles
around
like
whenever
I
talk
to
the
media.
L
I
usually
mention
that
somewhere
in
my
interview-
and
I
I
don't-
I
just
don't
know
the
answer
to
why
not
only
leaving
valuables
and
to
include
guns
and
cars
which
happens
regularly
and
the
gangs
literally
that's
how
they're
getting
a
lot
of
their
weapons
and
we're
weaponizing
numpy
our
irresponsibility.
L
But
I'll
tell
you
even
things
like
auto
theft.
People
leave
their
key
fobs
in
their
cars
all
the
time,
and
it's
not
just
here.
It's
all
around
the
country,
the
the
there's
part
of
the
research
and
shown
the
reason
why
auto
theft
numbers
went
up
significantly
is
because
of
key
fobs
and
people
just
want
to
leave
them
in
their
cup
holders,
and
somebody
goes
along
and
they
open
the
car
door
and
just
drive
off
with
the
car.
It
happens
almost
nightly.
I
mean
it
happens
regularly.
L
So
I
I
I
go
to
community
meetings,
we
talk
about
it
all
the
time
all
of
our
our
lieutenants,
our
captains,
our
commanders,
go
to
the
community
meetings.
We
talk
about
this
a
lot.
I
was
in
a
meeting
right
before
the
before
the
covet
hit.
L
I
remembered
well-
and
it
was
a
large
group
of
people
in
a
residential
neighborhood
and
one
of
the
community
members
was
upset
because
we
suggested
that
there
was
a
lot
we
could
do
to
prevent
being
victims
and
one
of
them
was
to
lock
our
doors
and
take
our
valuables
inside.
Just
like
we're
talking
about,
and
this
particular
community
member
was
upset
that
and
said
you're
victim
blaming.
You
know
you're
you're
victim
blaming.
L
I
shouldn't
have
the
right
to
leave
my
keys
in
my
car
in
my
values
in
my
car,
and
it
was
kind
of
a
self-correcting
problem,
because
the
entire
community
said
no,
we
don't
agree
with
that,
and
and
we
don't
want
to
be
a
target,
we
don't
want
our
neighborhood
to
be
a
target.
We
don't
want
to
be
easy
pickings.
We
don't
want
to
attract
the
criminal
element
to
come
to
our
community.
To
take
from
our
cars
and
steal
our
vehicles
and
so
emily,
I
wish
I
had
a
really
good
answer.
L
I'm
glad
you
asked
the
question
because
we
need
to
raise
awareness.
We
need
to
talk
about
this
quite
a
bit
when
we
interview
suspects,
we
arrest
them
and
it
takes
a
lot
of
effort.
It
takes
surveillance,
details,
it
takes
investigations,
it
takes
getting
video
and
we'll
arrest
them.
We
arrest
them
regularly,
but
they
might
be
responsible
for
100
crimes
before
we
arrest
them,
and
maybe
they
have
a
drug
addict.
A
Chief,
do
you
have
we've
got
about
a
little
less
than
10
minutes.
L
Left
before
the
most,
the
most
efficient,
most
professional
best-looking
guy
on
this
whole
call
with
his
bow
tie,
is
tony
patella
and
if
it's
okay,
I'll
let
him
take
us
home,
because
both
these
last
two
items
he
he
probably
knows
as
well
as
anybody.
I
just
want
to
give
him
and
his
team
credit
for
clea.
We
just
recently
had
an
on-site
or
it
was
a
virtual
inspection
of
our
accreditation
process.
L
We
received
re-accreditation,
it
will
officially
happen
in
a
few
months,
but
we
have
an
inspection,
very
thorough
of
our
policies
and
our
facilities,
and
they
actually
had
to
put
together
a
video
and
do
a
lot
of
different
things
to
make
it
happen.
A
guy
named
craig
dubose,
a
sergeant
who's
assigned
this
task,
and
I've
been
a
part
of
the
exit
interview
in
other
agencies
and
and
my
former
agency
in
here
and
I've
never
seen
such
a
positive
exit
interview.
L
Usually
there's
a
lot
of
criticism,
there's
a
lot
of
because
you
always
want
to
learn.
That's
the
whole
purpose
of
an
audit,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
our
department
class
to
pass
with
flying
colors
I'll.
Let
tony
explain
the
last
two
items,
but
thanks
to
him
and
his
team,
they
put
a
huge
amount
of
work
into
this.
L
The
whole
department
did
we've
been
accredited,
I
think
for
30
years
approximately
now,
and
so
I
can
take
zero
credit
for
it-
that
it
was
nice
to
be
sitting
in
the
seat
as
the
chief
during
the
exit
interview
and
ironically,
one
of
the
assessors,
I
think
he's
done.
24
no
60,
I
think
60
agencies,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
different
assessments
over
20
years
and
ironically,
he
was
the
lead
assessor
in
my
former
agency
about
four
years
ago.
I
think
or
around
that
time
frame,
and
so
I
knew
him,
I
knew
how
thorough
he
was.
L
G
Thank
you
before
I
begin.
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
your
participation.
G
G
Just
because
we
got
our
good
approval
rating
doesn't
mean
that
we
stop
until
the
next
three
to
four
years.
It's
a
continuous
process
that
every
three
to
four
months
every
quarter.
We
still
have
to
update
our
policies
and
show
different
proofs
of
what
we're
doing
so,
just
because
we
got
quote
reaccredited
now
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
touch
everything
for
the
next
three
to
four
years,
because
that's
just
untrue.
That's
a
good
thing
about
kalia!
It's
always
keeping
you
on
your
toes,
it's
keeping
you
in
line
with
best
practices
and
national
trends.
G
So
this
is
just
kind
of
a
process
that
we
go
through
and
sergeant
dubose,
who
maintains
our
kalia
contacts,
all
the
commanders
when
it's
time
to
turn
in
our
proofs
and
everything
is
done
virtually
so
once
again,
it
doesn't
mean
we're
stopping
we're
just
continuing
that
process
in
terms.
G
G
It
took
us
a
little
while
to
get
our
data
together,
because
our
three
officer-involved
shooting
incidents
and
they
are
labor-intensive
and
we
had
to
push
some
stuff
back,
but
we
are
pretty
much
right
on
schedule.
It's
a
40-page
report.
That's
pretty
comprehensive!
G
We
focus
on
use
of
force
our
administrative
investigations
which
talks
about
our
complaints
and
then
also
some
certain
training
aspects
that
officers
go
through
to
kind
of
help
out
with
the
complaint
process
and
use
of
force.
It's
a
very
detailed
report
I'll
be
willing
to
provide
a
more
thorough
update
once
we
give
it
to
you
guys
on
either
a
subcommittee
meeting
or
your
next
cpac
meeting
just
make
that
request
and
I'll
be
happy
to
give
that
presentation
to
you,
like,
I
said
once
we're
in
the
proofreading
stages
of
it.
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
giving
us
an
opportunity
to
participate
in
the
kalia
audit
process.
I
did
get
a
chance
to
participate.
I
know
paul
did
and
some
others
on
the
council
did
so
thank
you
for
giving
us
that
opportunity
and
I'm
sure
that
we
were
very
free
and
welcomed
with
making
our
comments
and
asking
our
questions.
I'm
glad
that
it
was
of
some
benefit
to
you
in
that
process.
I
did
as
we
move
to
the
next
item
topics
for
next
agenda.
I
did
write
down
just
now.
E
A
A
Okay
for
topics
for
the
oh
councilman
harris.
You
have
a
question.
K
Madam
chair,
in
the
after
action
report
on
the
may
30th
31st,
there
was
a
section
that
deal
dealt
with
complaints
and
I'd
like
captain
cortela
for
us
to
have
a
conversation
about
just
reviewing
that
how
they
were
processed,
what
your
the
outcomes
and
what
learning
learnings
they
were
from
that
at
our
lat.
In
our
next
subcommittee
meeting
of
the
policy
committee,
I
froze.
A
Make
sure
make
sure
you
share
that
with
the
chairman
of
the
policy
committee,
that's
council,
member
milligan.
K
Yeah
yeah,
I
mean
one
of
the
one
of
the
when
we
look
at
the
guidelines.
One
of
the
opportunities
that
we
have
was
to
review
after
the
fact
some
situations
and
I
think,
given
the
number
of
questions
being
raised
by
the
activist
community
about
complaints,
it
would
be
helpful
for
our
subcommittee
to
at
least
have
a
conversation
with
captain
cortela
and
review
that.
A
Communication
is
very
good,
so
I
know
you'll
pass
that
on
very
good
now,
topics
for
the
next
agenda
I
have
down.
We
need
to
select
our
october
and
december
meeting
dates
because
we
do
have
our
june
and
august
dates
update
regarding
the
james
island
traffic
concerns
that
were
expressed
tonight
from
the
citizens
who
called
in
and
from
councilwoman
jackson,
and
then
strategic
plan
update.
A
K
Madam
chair,
as
you
know,
I
chair
the
criminal
justice
reform
subcommittee
of
the
special
commission
on
equity
inclusion.
Racial
reconciliation
anticipate
that
the
report
from
that
committee
will
be
available
and
I'd
just
like
to
brief
by
our
our
next
meeting.
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
provide
an
overview
to
the
council
on
the
things
that
are
coming
out
of
that
committee
as
well.
A
Okay,
would
you
be
able
to
share
that
report
prior
to
the
meeting
so
that.
K
It
should
be,
it
should
be
done
before
the
published
before
the
meeting.
Yes,.
E
K
A
Okay,
well,
that
said
with
that
said,
I
do
want
to
thank
everyone
for
joining
in
for
the
meeting
tonight.
Those
who
have
joined
in
on
youtube,
as
well
as
those
who
have
called
in
who
are
listening
in
and
definitely
for
all
of
our
members
for
joining
and
chief.
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
always
having
a
full
staff
representation
on
the
call
for
us
in
our
meetings
to
be
able
to
address
our
concerns,
as
well
as
share
information
with
us.
So
we
can
continue
to
focus
on
the
guidelines
for
which
the
cpac
was
organized.