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City of Charleston Ad Hoc Budget Advisory Committee 9/23/2020
C
D
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E
B
Yeah,
I
mean
it's
all
grass,
it's
just
if
we
get
continue
to
get
days
like
this,
it's
going
to
grow
in
pretty
quickly.
So
I
think
one
of
the
things
they're
trying
to
do
possibly
is
have
a
big
opening
that
would
coincide
with
the
event
they
had
a
year
ago
last
last
year
when
they
raised
the
money
for
the
friends
of
the
muni.
So
I
think
they're
thinking
about
doing
something
like
that,
but
yeah
they're
actually
talking
about
having
the
driving
range
open
next
week,
not
this
weekend,
but
the
following
weekend.
B
E
C
E
So
this
is
this:
is
this
helps
with
the
flooding
on
one
side
of
riverland
and
they
did
work
on
the
other
side
as
well.
It
was
really
amazing
what
they've
done
out
there
they've
cleaned
out
so
much
overgrowth
and
brush
and,
as
carol
is
saying,
just
walking
out
there
so
beautiful
that
this
is
that
you
did
not
have
before.
I
just
said
clearing
out
or.
E
E
All
right,
this
is
going
to
be
a
jewel,
I'm
going
to
tell
you.
It
is
one
of
these
things
that
we're
proud
of
it's
in
the
city
that
we
own
it
and
control
it,
and
it's
for
our
it's
for
the
the
public
and
I
think,
those
of
us
who
want
exercise
and
recreation.
This
is
just
one
of
those
opportunities
that
we
have
and
I
told
laurie
arbor.
I
had
one
word
for
this:
wow.
C
A
H
C
E
I
I
wish
all
right,
let's
get
rolling
here,
yeah,
let's
get
rolling,
I
mean.
Fortunately,
there
are
some
other
things
going
on
in
the
world
here
today.
Thank
you
all
for
coming
together
and
I'd
like
to
just
call
this
meeting
to
order
join
me
for
a
moment
of
silence,
as
we
type
it
on
all
those
who
have
been
impacted
by
coba
19
this
year.
I
J
I
K
Okay,
thank
you.
We
have
I'll
just
go
and
order.
Our
large
item
requests,
as
listed
in
the
budget
body,
worn
camera
replacement,
the
forensics
lab
supplies
and
services
for
new
facility
equipment,
moving
costs,
landscaping
operating
supplies,
utilities
etc,
which
that
building
is
slated
to
open
in
january.
K
Just
we're
discussing
our
response
and
a
variety
of
priorities
for
us
to
be
able
to
just
be
present
and
keep
everybody
safe,
a
recruitment
program,
initial
program
budget,
a
small
dollar
amount,
five
thousand
dollars
and
I'm
just
gonna
I'll
kind
of
leave
it
as
a
high
level
overview.
Those
are
our
priorities
in
order.
K
We
work
closely
with
amy
and
her
team,
and
this
budget
certainly
gives
us
the
basics
for
adequate
staffing
equipment,
training
leadership,
the
main
things
that
we've
been
focused
on
the
last
few
years,
focusing
on
our
community,
obviously
no
new
positions
and
an
emergency
readiness
and
all
the
things
that
were
expected
to
be
prepared
to
be
able
to
handle
this.
This
supports
us
in
the
way
that
we
need
to
be.
I
E
Chief,
I
know
you
and
I
were
playing
phone
tag
earlier
this
morning
to
chat
beforehand
and
I
did
talk
to
chief
couria
and
it
gave
him
a
heads
up
on
where
shawn's
going
to
ask
kim.
So
this
makes
it
don't
mean
to
broadside
you
on
this,
but
when
it
comes
to
equipment,
is
there
anything
that
you're
experiencing
because
of
clover
19?
K
K
We
have
the
covet,
of
course,
the
civil
unrest
of
the
30th,
the
protests,
violent
crime,
a
whole
variety
of
other
challenges
that
we've
had,
but
no,
I
think,
equipment
wise
the
the
the
plan
that
we've
put
in
place
for
the
last.
This
is
now
my
third
budget,
and
this
year
is
obviously
lean,
but
we
are
compared
to
how
I
think
badly
it
could
be.
We've
got
the
support
we
need
to
get
through
2021
and
the
rest
of
this
year.
I'm
very
thankful
for
that.
I
K
K
We've
been
very
successful
despite,
I
think
the
really
really
difficult
conversation
around
criminal
justice
issues
and
policing
in
our
country,
men
and
women,
are
stepping
up
our
recruiting
efforts.
I
would
say,
with
terry,
terry
and
and
our
recruiting
team
are
as
good
as
they've
ever
been
since
I've
been
here
well
by
far
the
best
they've
been
and
we're
getting
some
great
people.
We
have
43
people
in
the
pipeline
right
now
with
the
class
that's
starting
in
november,
we
have.
K
We
have
a
a
very
strong
recruiting
cycle
that
we
have
another
class
that
will
be
in
addition
to
that
in
january,
I
think
could
be
as
many
as
30
people
in
that
class
in
january.
In
addition
to
those
43,
our
biggest
challenge
by
far
is
the
criminal
justice
academy
and
their
capacity
because
of
coven,
they
have
a
significantly
reduced
capacity
and
they
require
in-person
instruction.
K
It's
in
residence,
in
dining
and
and
and
bedding,
and
so
that's
created
a
lot
of
challenges
for
them
and
as
a
result,
they
they
have
to
shut
down
for
a
while
and
when
they
reopen
they,
they
have
real
limited
diminished
capacity.
So
we
have
been
advocating
and
working
with
them
because
that's
slowing
down
now
they
had
fixed
that
there
was
really
no
delay
until
coveted
and
now
there's
significant
delays
and
that's
having
an
impact
on
our
ability
to
get
people
through
out
into
our
communities
right.
I
K
F
I
I
I
know
that
this
is
our
our
numbers
discussion,
so
I
I
do
want
to
ask
a
detailed
question
about
that,
so
the
the
department
cuts
that
are
totaled
here
of
177
000,
that's
not
cuts
from
your
request.
That's
cuts
from
your
from
your
the
total
budget
that
that's
the
53
million
is
that
is
that
correct?
Do
you
know.
K
That's
correct:
we
had
a
significant
dollar
amount
of
savings
in
the
current
budget
year.
Obviously
because
of
the
covered
challenges
in
the
city
budget,
I
think
all
agencies,
and
including
the
police
department,
had
a
significant
savings
in
2020
and
in
addition
to
that,
we've
got
some
additional
savings
in
2021,
which
is
what
you're
referencing,
and
that
is
from
our
overall
budget.
F
So
you
know
I
I
don't
I
don't.
I
don't
think
any
of
us
are
unaware
or
naive
about
all
of
the
discussion.
That's
going
on
around
around
the
country
around
our
city
around
our
community
by
the
groups
that
are
trying
to
be
more
strategic
about
how
policing
accomplishes
the
goals
that
citizens
and
the
community
members
believe
that
you
know
we
are
responsible
to
provide,
and
I
I
know
that
we're
not
asking
you
today
to
do
like
a
full
programmatic.
F
You
know
sort
of
game
plan
for
how
we
are
going
to
be
responsive
and
more
thoughtful,
at
least
in
the
way
that
we
connect
the
dots
between
our
our
policing
efforts
and
the
community
outreach,
for
example,
and
all
of
the
avenues
where
we
cooperate
with
systemic
challenges
that
people
face
in
living
their
lives
with
mental
health
issues
and
domestic
violence
and
prevention
of
homelessness,
and
things
like
that.
But
I
do
feel
that
it
would
be
really
helpful
for
us
to
dedicate
an
hour
for
you
maybe
to
come
to
the
full
council.
K
Thank
you
for
asking
that
question.
We
have
to
be
thoughtful.
We
have
finite
resources
and
we
have
to
do
the
best
we
can
for
our
city
for
our
residents
for
our
community.
Our
visitors
and
the
police
are
not
the
solution
to
everything
we.
I
would
be
the
first
to
acknowledge
that
and
I
think
that's
a
challenge
that
is
coming
to
us
from
a
lot
of
different
places
that
I
welcome.
K
I
think
we
have
to
embrace
that
conversation
and-
and
I
have
my
entire
career,
but
more
specifically,
probably
in
the
last
six
months.
More
so
than
ever.
You
mentioned
a
few
things:
mental
health,
opioids
homelessness,
domestic
violence.
We
can't
arrest
our
way
out
of
those
issues.
The
police
are
not
the
singular
solution,
we're
a
part
of
the
solution,
and
so
that's
one
position
that
the
city
is
invested
in.
It's
helping
us
with
the
audit,
but
it's
I
would
describe
wendy's
position
as
a
force
multiplier.
K
K
K
K
How
do
we
look
at
the
data
when
you
look
at
disparities
and
inequities,
and
you
look
at
trust
issues,
there's
so
much
more
that
we
need
to
do
to
bridge
those
gaps
to
build
those
relationships
to
help
people
know
that
they
are
being
treated
with
dignity
and
respect,
and
how
do
we
deploy
our
traffic
division?
It
really
applies
to
every
area
of
our
department.
K
How
do
we
become
a
21st
century,
policing
agency,
not
just
in
practice,
not
just
or
not
just
in
policies
or
in
theory,
but
in
all
of
our
practices
and
all
of
our
outcomes?
And
how
do
we
overlap
in
all
those
areas
that
we
can
if
it
was
a
venn
diagram,
there's
a
lot
of
overlap
in
what
we
do
where
we
can
help
our
community?
So
I
appreciate
that
question
and
I
think
those
are
the
areas
that
we're
doing
a
lot
of
exploration
to
see.
K
There's
a
lot
of
underserved
communities,
underrepresented
communities,
people
that
won't
even
report
crime
to
the
police
that
are
victimized
the
latino
communities
and
others
that
are
scared
right.
Now.
That
really
need
our
help
and
our
support.
So
just
hiring
people
doesn't
fix
that.
We
have
to
be
smart
about
how
we
deploy,
what
our
approaches
are
and
how
we
communicate
with
people
and
how
we
serve
all
of
the
people
in
the
city
of
charleston.
F
F
You
know,
available
to
people
that
can
brainstorm.
She
wasn't
able
to
come
to
the
commission
on
women
this
past
week
because
of
their
standing
meeting,
whatever.
That
is
that's
regional
with
her
and
dustin,
so
we're
making
a
special
time
for
miss
diver
to
come
and
brainstorm
with
the
with
the
women's
group,
because
we
really
want
to
get
serious
about
domestic
violence
and
and
the
family
justice
center
that
she
has
seen
work
in
other
communities.
So
I
I
think
we're
going
to
have
that
ability
to
leverage.
F
You
know
the
ideas
that
are
that
are
that
are
seen
most
clearly
at
the
street
level,
but
by
the
police
by
the
fire
department
by
the
people
who
are
out
there.
I'm
assisting
those
who
are
you
know
not
not
the
roof
over
their
head
and
and
put
all
of
those
resources
together
into
a
place
that
doesn't
have
cpd
on
it.
So
I'm
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
how
that
rolls
out.
So,
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that
off
the
top
of
your
head.
K
That's
a
very,
very
complex
and
challenging
dilemma,
and
I
agree
with
you
and
there's
so
many
issues
with
bed
capacity
and
and
with
health
care
and
and
just
family
support
and
a
whole
variety
of
things
that
that
that
raises
what
we
do
know
is
arresting
and
citing
them
is
not
working
and
we're
doing
that.
We're
doing
that.
I
it's
something.
That's
important,
it's
a
part
of
what
we
do,
but
that's
not
fixing
the
problem
and,
and
so
it
has
to
be
a
comprehensive
approach.
I
So
if
I
may
chime
in
on
a
couple
of
points,
first
of
all,
amy
tried
to
come
in
with
the
statistics,
maybe
her
having
trouble
coming
back
in
the
meeting.
She
says
that
88.53
of
the
operating
budget
is
for
personnel,
so
you're
real,
close
chief
round
that
up
to
90
percent,
but
per
amy,
it's
88.53
and
and
if
I
may
respond
councilmember
jackson
to
the
flavor
of
your
question
and
even
council
member
gregory's,
these
other
realizing
the
police,
is
not
the
end-all
be-all
for
all
our
social
ills.
I
I
mean
we
are
adding
capacity,
we're
continuing
to
try
to
add
capacity
to
help
the
homeless
through
our
housing
and
community
development
department.
Of
course,
we've
all
been
working
so
on
affordable
housing.
You
know
there
there.
There
are
other
examples
of
collaborations
that
we
have
going
council
member
gregory
with
the
berkeley.
Charleston
mental
health
group
fact.
Is
there
not
many
institutions
out
there
holding
and
releasing
folks
that
have
challenges
of
mental
health.
Ronald
reagan
did
away
with
most
of
that
back
in
the
80s,
and
you
know
most.
I
We
estimate
that
85
of
of
those
experiencing
homelessness
have
either
a
mental
or
an
addiction
problem,
and
so
just
going
out,
that's
not
to
say
that
there
there
are
some
bad
actors
out
there.
I
call
them
frequent
flyers
that
need
to
be
arrested,
but
more
so
than
ever.
We're
trying
we're
making
proactive
efforts
to
direct
folks
to
the
appropriate
social
services
to
get
get
help,
and
so
when,
when
there's
this
implied
call
to
well,
we
need
to
reduce
funding
for
the
police
in
order
to
do
these
other
things.
I
No,
we
need
to
provide
for
public
safety
in
our
city
and
our
community
and
fully
fund
our
efforts
and
our
personnel
with
the
police
department,
while
at
the
same
time
doing
what
we're
doing
and
that's
trying
to
add
these,
these
other
services,
where
appropriate
in
in
other
departments
and
then
city
government.
So
I
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
that
comment.
Councilmember
shade.
E
And
thank
you
man.
I
think
this
sort
of
maybe
ties
in
with
what
this
conversation
we're,
having
with
cuts
and
mental
health
and
homelessness
and
the
other
issues
that
we
were
dealing
with-
and
you
mentioned
this
early
on
to
a
question
that
the
mayor
and
ashley
chief
about
the
criminal
justice
academy
and
cutting
back
and
we've
had
several
discussions
about
and
early
on
when
you
arrived
here
about
a
regional
training
facility.
So
my
my
concern
is
which
you
just
mentioned
to
the
mayor.
E
K
K
So
it
has
had
a
significant
impact
on
training.
I
just
attacked
our
our
training
director,
lieutenant
tom
adams
this
morning
about
how
almost
similar
to
the
debate
that
we
had
last
night
in
council
with
how
do
we
kind
of
live
in
the
new
norm
and
what
is
the
greater
arm
and
we've
really
slowed
down
a
lot
of
our
practical
training
and
our
skills
training
and
the
hands-on
things
where
we
go.
K
For
example,
defensive
tactics,
all
those
things
that
are
very
important
because
of
the
coven
and
now,
as
we
plan
our
block,
training
or
in-service
training
for
2021,
we
really
have
to.
We
have
to
have
that
training.
Our
officers
need
that
they're
being
placed
in
very
difficult
situations,
so
they
have
to
do
scenario,
training
they
have
to
deal
with
role,
players
and
and
all
the
things
that
you
think
of-
and
you
see
on
tv
there's
all
the
things
that
we
do.
We
do
scenario-based
training
so
that
they're
in
a
stressful
environment
they
go
hands-on.
K
K
Again
it's
not
a
fiscal
impact
per
se.
It's
slowed
down
our
pipe.
It
has
impacted
our
compliment
in
that,
but
there's
been
no
our
hr,
our
our
cfo,
our
mayor,
they've,
the
council.
You
completely
supported
us
in
hiring.
Nobody
has
slowed
down
our
hiring,
the
the
the
impediments
are
more
in
the
training
pipeline
and
it's
really
solely
related
to
the
cja
and
some
of
the
challenges
that
they
have
they've
been
very
helpful
in
working
with
us
and
it's
a
great
group
of
people.
K
But
the
model
is
such
that
we
could
actually
do
that
here
within
our
region
at
no
cost,
and
do
it
really
well,
our
people
go
there.
They
test
very
well
they've
performed
very
well.
They
interact
very
well
with
the
team
there,
but
that's
kind
of
the
impact
in
terms
of
the
the
covet
on
our
our
hiring
and
our
training.
It
has
been
significant,
but
not
so
much
in
terms
of
fiscal
year.
E
And
this
and
one
other
just
maybe
not
an
associated
question,
but
I've
done
the
follow-up
question.
When
we
talk
about
our
expense
on
personnel,
how
do
how
do
we
stack
up
and
because
I
know
we-
we've
been
very
careful
with
personnel
hiring
and
that's
been
one
of
the
issues
we've
been
dealing
with
with
other
departments.
E
K
So
that's
a
good
question.
We
actually
have
more
officers
per
capita
than
most
agencies.
We,
what
most
agencies
don't
have?
Is
they
don't
have
a
large
port
like
we?
Have?
They
don't
have
the
number
one
tourist
destination
where
we
got,
I
think
seven
million
visitors
last
year.
They
don't
have
special
events
every
weekend
throughout
the
year.
They
don't
have
the
operational
issues
that
we
have
in
the
city
of
charleston
with
a
whole
variety
of
challenges,
and
when
you
look
at
the
growth,
that's
happening,
clements,
ferry
and
kane
hoy
and
you
project
where
that's
headed.
K
L
K
K
I'll
let
amy
answer
because
it's
fairly
complex
I've
asked
that
question
and
and
there's
a
very
clear
way
that
lapse
is
factored
into
the
city's
budget
every
year.
Okay,
explaining
a
lot
better
than
I
can,
but
but
lapse,
is
something
that's
factored
in
and
planned
on,
and
that's
how
kind
of
we
get
from
one
year
to
the
other,
and
last
year
it's
gone
up
each
year
slightly
last
year
it
was
we
averaged
about
50
vacancies.
L
And-
and
those
are,
those
are
the
the
numbers
that
I
would
like
to
know
about
if
we've
allocated
for
those
50
positions
in
in
a
given
fiscal
year,
but
we
again,
I
know
this
is
probably
an
amy
question:
what
happens
to
the
dollars
that
were
allocated
in
that
time
period
for
those
positions,
because
we're
talking
really
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars?
You're
talking
50
people.
I
I
But
in
this
case
from
the
police
department,
yeah
there's
there's
a
there's,
a
considerable
credit
that
goes
to
that
employee
savings
line
item
every
year.
It
gets
reconciled
every
every
year
when
they
do
the
audit
and
and
that's
what
helps
lead
to
us
to
have
a
reserve
every
year.
You
know
how
we
budget
for
capital
projects
and
we
use
2018
reserve
or
2017
reserve.
Frankly,
a
lot
of
that
comes
from
money.
We've
saved
from
positions
being
open.
I
L
I
F
D
C
You're
on
mute,
thank
you,
mr
yeah.
Thank
you,
mr
mia
chief.
When
we
have
you
know
these
special
events,
unplanned
events
like
they've
been
on
may
30th
and
other
enforcement
agencies
coming
to
help
as
well
as
us
all
the
time.
How
does
that?
How
do
we
pay
for
those
incidents
like
that
or
the
fall
off
on
sunday
and
again.
E
K
So
we
have
not
been
charged
by
any
of
our
partnering
agencies
as
of
today.
I
can
tell
you
that
if
we
sent
somebody
to
columbia
or
we
sent
somebody
to
mount
pleasant
tomorrow
or
to
north
charleston
or
somewhere
else
in
the
county
or
berkeley
county,
all
the
agencies
that
have
helped
us.
I
certainly
would
not
send
them
a
bill
for
that.
K
But
I
think
that's
a
good
question.
It's
something
that
could
come
up.
It
hasn't
we're
meeting
and
immediately
following
this,
I'm
doing
a
meeting
today
with
the
sheriffs
with
north
charleston
and
with
mount
pleasant
and
our
command
to
discuss
tonight,
and
we
have
resources
that
we
have
to
deploy
for
things
that
may
occur
and
we
don't
we.
We
spent
a
good
chunk
of
overtime
the
week
following
the
30th
that
that
pay
period
those
two
weeks
and
we
that's
not
budgeted.
K
I
know
that
there's
some
there
are
some
some
deals
that
housing
offers
where
our
officers
can
get
a
deal.
If
you
will,
I
think
they
offered
that
for
police
and
firefighters
and
school
teachers
right.
I
don't
know
how
consistent
that
is.
I
don't
think
it's
there's
not
anything
like
a
line
item
or
anything
substantial
other
than
when
those
opportunities
come
up.
C
C
K
I
know
in
my
former
experience
it
looks
like
amy
might
have
an
answer
for
that.
In
my
former
experience,
it
was
about
a
quarter
lived
out,
three
quarters
lived
in
because
of
the
take-home
car
program
and
then
eventually,
over
a
long
period
of
time.
It
clipped
and
almost
three
quarters
lived
outside
the
jurisdiction
because
it
was
pretty
expensive.
C
L
It
might
have
been
expanded
to
other
than
officers,
police,
police
officers
and
it's
a
program
that's
been
on
the
books
for
a
while,
and
I
think
what
they
do
is
they
use
our
fha
foreclosure
portfolio
and
give
police
officers
an
unbelievable
deal
if
they
decide
to
buy
the
property.
It's
called
the
officer
next
door
program
and
it's
a
federal
program
and,
and
it's
one
way
for
us
to
get
officers
in
certain
neighborhoods
really
to
live
in
those
neighborhoods.
L
L
There
was
a
rumor
that
our
our
vacancies
are
where
they
are
because
we
give
such
great
training,
but
our
salaries
are
not
comparable
to
other
areas
in
the
state
or
in
the
country.
So
as
a
result
of
them
getting
this
great
training
from
charleston,
they
leave
leaving,
in
some
cases
a
vacuum
and
again.
This
is
nothing
that
I've
I've.
L
I've
confirmed,
but
it's
just
something
that
it
that
has
been
out
there
for
a
while,
that
they
leave
our
foes
forced
to
get
higher
wages,
better
benefits
somewhere
and
then
the
last
part
of
the
question
is
what
percentage
of
the
department
could?
Can
you
give
us
a
racial
breakdown
of
the
police
force.
K
George,
so
one
your
question
in
terms
of
why
people
leave
and
the
nutrition
is
for
a
whole
variety
of
reasons.
We
do
exit
interviews
of
everybody.
We
try
to
do
exit
interviews
with
everybody
who
leaves
I
personally
interview
a
lot
of
people
and
there's
not
any
singular
reason
why
people
are
leaving.
K
K
K
So
it's
a
variety
of
things.
Our
pay
is
competitive.
It's
one
of
the
higher
pay
in
the
state
of
south
carolina.
I
think,
if
you
compare
the
pay
in
the
state
compared
to
many
other
areas,
it's
it's.
It
is
lower,
but
I
think
that
the
city
of
charleston
is
competitive
and
and
actually
that
our
pay
is
is
is,
is
favorable
and
then
I'll
say.
Geographically
people
love
charleston.
K
K
You
know
the
city
has
been
working
on
that
the
police
department
needs
to
work
on
that,
how
we
communicate
with
our
employees
how
we
share
information
with
them.
I
don't
think
we
can
ever
invest
enough
in
technology,
training
and
leadership,
and
and
those
are
the
hallmarks
of
what
we're
doing,
which
really
speaks
to
the
audit,
speaks
to
what
people
need.
K
And
so
I
think
it's
healthy.
It's
very
good.
The
dialogue,
even
in
the
recruiting
realm
that
we're
having
and
one
of
the
things
that
people
are
looking
for
is
an
organization
that's
going
to
invest
in
them
and
more
than
pay
is
their
personal
development
in
challenging
them
and
putting
them
in
meaningful
positions.
K
And
so
the
city
of
charleston
has
a
lot
of
different
units.
We
have
marine
control,
we
have
traffic,
we
have
investigations,
we
have
our
patrol,
we
have
a
lot
of
diversity
in
our
communities
and
I
I'll
tell
you
I'm
one
of
our
biggest
recruiters.
Even
in
these
challenging
times.
I
don't
think.
There's
a
profession
where
you
can
work
and
and
have
such
an
impact
as
you
can
in
policing
today
and
make
a
difference.
K
K
I
I
want
to
say
we're
around
17
18
african
american
and
I
can
get
those
for
you.
Councilmember
I'll,
have
them
in
front
of
me.
It's
something
that
we
look
at
closely.
We
have
weekly
calls
and
we
have
a
monthly
what
we
call
stat
360
that
wendy's
divers
and
started
with
us.
Where
not
only
are
we
looking
at
the
diversity
of
our
organization
and
and
I'm
talking
about
the
sworn
numbers
we
have
a
way
higher
diversity
in
our
overall
department.
K
In
our
communities,
but
in
our
promotions
and
our
specialty
units
we
just
recently
promoted
a
I
say,
promoted,
we
selected
a
female
onto
our
swat
team
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
have
more
in
the
as
we
move
into
the
future
and
as
we
look
at
promotions,
we
look
at
diversity
within
our
team
and
that's
really
important
when
you
look
at
being
the
best
possible
team.
Hopefully
that
helps
you.
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you
chief
for
this
very
thorough
explanation
and
of
all
the
different
things
you've
got
going
on.
I
have
a
question
aimed
at
you
know.
One
of
the
things
that
we've
been
looking
at
and
monitoring
for
the
majority
of
2020
has
been
this
much
talked
about.
Little
acted
on
aid
to
local
governments
around
the
country
due
to
coronavirus
related
economic
impacts.
You
know
we
all
on
city,
council
and
the
mayor
we
sent
a
letter
to
our
our
senators.
G
I
I
haven't
heard
back
was
wondering
if
you
know
the
police
and
fire,
you
know,
sort
of
fraternal
organizations
or
professional
organizations
have
sort
of
engaged
on
that
front.
Maybe
maybe
they'd
listen
to
y'all
a
little
bit
better
than
us,
because
that's
the
thing
that's
just
been
so
perplexing
to
me.
G
Out
of
this
whole
experience
is
that
you
know
when
you
talk
about
local
governments
and
budgets
and
things
of
that
nature,
as
we
all
know
on
this
call,
you
know
the
the
net
effect
of
that
is
is
law
enforcement
and
police
and
fire,
and
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
talk
about
defunding
the
police.
These
days.
In
the
press-
but
you
know
we're-
certainly
not
intending
to
do
that
now,
if,
if
we
don't
get
some
help,
it's
gonna
make
things
very
difficult
not
for
this
year.
G
K
There's
an
organization
called
major
county
sheriffs,
there's
the
police,
executive
research
forum,
international
association
of
chiefs
of
police,
and
we
have
a
voice
and
we
there
is
a
fairly
important
voice
in
dc,
and
so
we
do
voice
that
we
in
south
carolina.
We
have
the
south
carolina
police
chiefs
association,
and
we
talk
regularly,
of
course,
with
amongst
ourselves,
and
I
talk
regularly
with
mark
keel,
the
chief
of
sled,
who
works
directly
for
the
governor.
K
K
I
think
they
lost
100
officers
over
100
officers
in
minneapolis,
just
immediate
retirements
and
then
on
top
of
that
over
100
are
going
out
on
ptsd
they're
defunding,
the
police,
at
the
same
time
that
they're
destroying
the
city
in
a
lot
of
different
ways,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
off
track,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
focus
on
what's
best
for
the
city.
That's
what
not
what's
best
for
the
police
department
what's
best
for
the
city-
and
I
think
that
is
is
public.
Safety
in
general
is
important
that
it
gets
funded.
K
When
we
look
at
a
lot
of
the
demands,
the
the
things
that
are
being
expected
to
get
the
best
people,
human
capital,
the
majority
of
our
budget
as
amy
said,
is
88.4.
I
think
percent.
The
majority
of
that
is
human
capital.
We've
got
to
investing
in
hiring
and
training
and
leading
the
best
people
and
that
costs
money
and
you're
right
ross.
I
think
we
need
to
continue
to
advocate
that
we
get
help
with
that.
I
L
J
J
Try
to
show
you
how
we
drive
towards
those
priorities
on
a
daily
and
a
monthly,
and
then
also
we
want
to
show
that
in
a
tough
budget
year,
any
any
funding
that
you
devote
to
the
fire
department.
That's
above
the
2020
funding,
it's
going
to
be
used
wisely
and
it's
going
to
be
used
purposely.
So
I
know
chief
reynolds
a
couple
of
the
big
items
in
the
police
department's
budget,
I'm
actually
just
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
a
different
stab
at
it.
J
Now
we
developed
that
list
as
coving
was
evolving,
so
we
we
took
the
approach
that
we
would
devise
the
budget
as
if
there
was
not
a
pandemic,
so
you'll
see
lots
of
requests
in
there,
but
I
also
know
that
we're
all
in
this
together
and
we
take
that
pretty
seriously
in
the
fire
department.
We
designed
the
budget
off
the
priorities
that
I
sent
to
you
yesterday
and
those
are
basically
keeping
the
lights
on.
J
J
Over
the
last
12
months,
we've
tried
to
look
to
see
where
we're
spending
money
and
where
we're,
where
we're
taking
money
to
shore
up
different
line
items
and
we've
spent
a
good
amount
of
time,
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
needed
different
line
items
to
have
a
budget,
that's
flat
for
us.
So
if
you
look
at
our
budget
requests,
what
you'll
see
are
that
in
the
first
18
or
19
budget
requests,
most
of
them
are
simply
baseline
increases.
J
J
J
I
believe
that's
out
of
our
2020
budget
going
into
2021,
and
what
I
can
tell
you
is,
it
will
be
austere
and
it
will
hurt,
but
will
maintain
service,
and,
as
you
look
through
our
different
priorities
that
we
have
listed
in
this
spreadsheet,
please
know
that
everything
we've
listed
points
back
to
one
of
the
priorities
that
we've
identified
and
anything
that
we
can
put
towards
the
fire
department
off
this
list.
You
can
pick
it,
you
don't
have
to
go
to
priority
number
one,
but
anything
that
we
can
put
to
the
fire
department
off.
J
I
I
E
J
Some
of
the
things
yes
and
lumber
obviously
is
going
up
in
price.
Anything
that's
petroleum-based,
so
we
had
to
make
a
large
purchase
of
tires
earlier
in
the
year
to
anticipate
a
shortage
later
in
the
year
and
then,
quite
frankly,
earlier
in
the
year
there
there
was
a
lot
of
ambiguity
about
personal
protective
equipment
and
if
the
fire
department
would
even
have
the
supply
of
masks
and
gloves
to
to
maintain
its
medical
program.
So
that
was
a
great
concern
to
us.
We
made
some
purchases
and
the
supply
chain
seems
to
have
rebounded.
J
H
F
F
So
I
I
hope
that
you
feel
like
it
was
a
valuable
help
to
the
you
know:
the
way
that
you're
structuring
the
department
and
and
your
ongoing
priorities,
and
hopefully
by
god's
grace,
we
can
find
a
little
extra
and
you
know
maybe
fun
fun,
something
that
you
had
to
cut,
but
I
do
think
that
it
was
really
helpful
for
us
to
see
the
details
and
I
hope
it
you
know
paid
off
for
y'all
to
do
it.
So
thanks.
J
Well,
I
appreciate
you
saying
that
what
I
would
add
is
that
one
thing
that
became
clear
to
me
when
I
came
into
the
department
two
years
ago
is
that
it
would
behoove
me
to
immediately
start
planning
for
my
exit
from
the
department
and
by
that
I
don't
mean
I'm
leaving.
I
I
love
this.
I
love
this
department.
I
love
this
city,
but
we
have
to
go
through
these
exercises
and
we
have
to
devise
a
budget
that
meets
our
needs,
but
then
we
also
have
to
be
flexible
enough
to
reduce
that
budget.
J
J
J
I
think
I
speak
for
the
entire
fire
department
or
he's
the
leadership
team
when
we
say
this
in
austin's
area
that
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
to
go
through
these
exercises.
These
are
tough
conversations.
These
are
tough
decisions,
but
what
we're
doing
is
we're
building
our
resiliency
in
the
department
and
well
after
I'm
gone,
we're
gonna,
have
leadership
in
place.
J
I
purposely
include
the
employee.
Satisfaction
survey
results
because
morale
is
up
and
it's
really
not
it's
not
due
to
me.
It's
due
to
the
fact
that
we
have
good
people,
so
I
ask
that
you
support
us
to
the
best
of
your
ability,
but
know
that
whatever
we
get
we're
going
to
spend
it
wisely.
Thank
you.
C
Well,
I
wanted
to
compliment
the
chief
for
his
leadership.
I
got
to
be
frank.
There
was
a
period
of
time
when
a
number
of
council
members
will
get
anonymous
letters
from
people
in
the
fire
department,
not
a
chief,
and
I
have
not
gotten
any-
and
I
haven't
heard
any
other
council
members
saying
that
that's
a
testament
to
your
leadership
and
your
leadership
team.
So
I
certainly
appreciate
that
very
much.
C
J
J
C
I
H
Good
afternoon,
mayor
council,
members
and
other
city
staff,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
budget
today,
just
starting
out.
I
would
like
to
say
that
I've
always
been
very
deliberate
in
my
efforts
to
budget
for
the
I.t
department,
which
is
a
little
unusual
compared
to
most
departments,
in
that
we
budget
for
all
the
other
departments
as
well.
So
this
is
just
isn't
it
it's
for
the
entire
city.
Is
we
provide
for
supply,
support
and
implement
technology
to
support
all
the
other
department
operations?
H
We
have
to
do
to
support
the
initiatives
of
the
city
and
the
other
departments,
so
this
year,
obviously
in
particular
had
a
lot
of
challenges
because
of
what
we're
dealing
with
with
the
revenue
constraints
that
we're
facing.
So
that
being
said,
really
took
a
very
hard
line
on
what
we
were
going
to
be
doing
for
next
year.
H
What
we
get
incoming
from
the
departments
comes
in
the
form
of
specific
requests
to
I.t
using
various
forms
we'll
go
through
those
review
them.
I.T
will
do
a
good
bit
of
direct
approval,
denial
decisions
based
upon
our
understanding
of
what's
needed.
What's
out
there,
what
we're
already
doing
and
then
beyond
that
we'll
put
it
in
the
hands
of
bfrc
and
then
ultimately
city
council.
This
year,
all
those
individual
requests
that
came
in
for
the
most
part
were
denied
if
they
could
be
or
were
transferred
to
complete
this
year.
H
So
we've
got
some
funding
available.
That's
extra
money's
left
for
some
projects
that
came
in
lower
some
extra
lease
purchase.
Funds
were
able
to
accommodate
various
computer
requests
and
software
requests,
and
things
like
that.
So
that
allows
us
to
also
reduce
what
we
would
put
in
the
budget
for
next
year.
H
H
Normally.
If
you
look
at
that
sheet
that
you
have
the
first
five
items
are
non-public
safety.
We
normally
have
as
much
as
three
times
that
in
our
major
project
requests.
So
again
we
really
tried
to
carve
that
down
to
things
that
were
more
or
less
gotta
haves
for
next
year
in
certain
areas,
particularly
the
first
two
related
to
the
courtrooms.
H
Now
that's
been
in
place
for
at
least
the
16
years
that
I've
been
here,
I
think
about
it's
actually
17
or
18
years.
So
it's
reaching
a
sunset
period
and
it's
availability.
The
vendor
is
not
really
supporting
it
anymore
and
we've
got
to
cut
off
on
that.
Coming
up
that
we've
got
to
do
something
one
way
or
the
other,
so
we've
been
working
with
them
to
look
at
new
options
to
put
in
a
new
system
that
would
be
more
effective
than
what
they
have
now
to
get
that
upgraded
and
keep
that
process
running.
E
H
Of
this
thing,
yes,
sir,
we
are
taking
that
approach
on
just
about
everything
we
do,
as
you
may
or
may
not
recall.
We
recently
two
years
ago
started
our
new
electronic
document
management
system
that
we
put
in
citywide
to
start
digitizing
things
allowing
for
more
online
capabilities,
electronic
processing-
so
that's
definitely
an
element
of
the
new
case
management
systems
that
are
out
there
and
something
we'd
be
looking
at
to
transition
to
to
give
us
a
little
more
flexibility,
good,
okay!
Thank
you,
sir.
Yes,
sir,
I'm
just.
C
C
H
Yes,
sir,
that's
actually
something
that's
being
looked
at
and
worked
on
now.
Tracy
mckee
is
heavily
involved
in
that
and
looking
at
everything
we're
doing
with
the
permit
center
and
some
other
areas
for
the
online
services
we
provide
in
processes,
and
she
could
potentially
speak
to
that
in
more
detail
if
she's,
online
or
later,
but
we
we
are
looking
at
see,
we
can
start
recovering
some
of
those
processing
fees,
certainly
the
online
payment
process,
as
we
do
for
tickets,
and
things
like
that.
So
that
is
definitely
something
we
are
planning
for.
C
I
Jurisdictions
in
the
tri-county
area
do
do
pass
along
a
credit
card
fee.
We
we
did
take
the
trouble
to
explore
alternatives
so
that
if
someone
wanted
to
be
able
to
do
direct
payment,
I
think
they
call
it
an
ach
payment
to
us
that
they'd
be
able
like
if
they
were
paying
their
business
license,
and
it
was
a
a
a
healthy
amount.
They
they
wouldn't
want
to
pay
one
and
a
half
percent
or
whatever
the
credit
card
fee
is.
I
So
we
wanted
to
give
our
citizens
and
businesses
an
opportunity
to
to
avoid
the
fee
if,
if
they
chose
particularly
when
it
might
be
sizeable,
so
we
we
will
be
coming
to
council.
I
think,
before
the
end
of
the
year,
with
a
proposal
as
part
of
the
budget
to
add
processing
fees
for
for
credit
card
transactions.
I
H
Are
right
now
involved
with
upgrading
our
online
payment
provider
for
some
of
our
services?
It
involves
upgrading
a
lot
of
our
credit
card
readers
and
also
bringing
in
the
sph
processing
capability.
So
that's
in
motion
now
to
upgrade
some
existing
processes
and
then
that
will
just
provide
the
foundation
and
roll
forward
with
a
lot
of
these
other
things.
We're
looking
at.
C
Yeah
yeah,
you
know
mr
mill
one
of
the
things
you
know
you,
you
mentioned
some
other
jurisdictions,
but
your
utility
companies.
You
pay
a
light
bill
online.
They
charge
you
three
bucks,
it's
just
a
flat
three
bucks.
Okay
boy.
Can
you
imagine
how
many
three
bucks
they
collect
from
one
end
of
the
state
to
the
other.
E
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
wes
for
being
with
us
this
afternoon,
I'm
looking
at
your
the
priorities
that
you
gave
us
and
you
numbered
them
and
I'm
remembering
from
the
last
two
years.
I
think
if,
if
you
weren't
trying
to
update
the
court's
management
system
as
you
need
to
that,
the
electronic
keeping
system
would
be
your
number
one
priority.
I
I'm
thinking,
and
I
know
that
you've
had
to
cut
that
out.
We've.
The
council
has
not
been
able
to
fund
that,
so
I
I
would.
F
I
would
appreciate
you
educating
a
couple
of
our
new
budget
committee,
members
on
why
why
what
that
amount
was
or
have
you
updated,
even
the
cost
of
bringing
in
an
electronic
timekeeping
database,
and
why
why
we
were
making
it
a
priority
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
fund
yet?
But
I
think
we
need
to
keep
it
on
the
list.
M
Can
I
can
I
just
jump
in
there
wes,
I'm
sorry,
because
councilmember
jackson,
we
do
have
money
put
away
for
that,
so
we
we
had
put
general
fund
reserves
away
the
year
before
and
we
actually
put
it
in
the
budget
for
2020
which
did
not
get
cut
back
out.
It's
just
not
been
something
that
we've
been
able
to
get
to
yet
with
covet
and
everything
else
that's
going
on,
but
wes
I'll.
Let
you
talk
about
it.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
understood
we
do
have.
H
F
I
J
I
C
D
M
M
J
M
Fringes
and
all
of
that,
so
these
are
still
things
that
we're
working
on
the
lease
purchase,
which
would
kind
of
probably
towards
the
end
when
we
see
what
we're
doing
with
the
departmental
budgets
themselves,
especially
police
and
fire.
And
then
we
have
a
meeting
on
tuesday,
the
29th.
So
we'll
discuss
the
remaining
departmental
budgets
that
we
haven't
gone
over.
M
We're
going
to
start
a
revenue
discussion
in
the
enterprise
funds
and
then
we'll
have
another
meeting
on
october
15th,
where
we'll
really
start
to
cool
down
a
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
the
budgets
and
the
recommendations
that
we
have
based
on
the
department's
priorities
and
and
just
see
where
we
are.
At
that
time.
I
To
be
honest
with
you
line
item
by
line
item
and
that's
because
upon
amy's
directive
to
all
our
department
heads
to
reduce
their
operating
budget,
10
percent,
that
scrutiny
really
happened
before,
bringing
it
to
you
all,
and
so
it's
maybe
making
our
job
a
little
easier
in
a
in
a
way.
But
I
just
thought
I'd
share
that
observation.
M
Well,
we'll
still
have
that
line
item
by
line
item
when
we're
looking
at
it,
because
you
know
like
with
the
fire
department,
for
instance,
you
know
they
just
took
out
all
their
their
new
requests.
There's
some
of
those
that
need
that.
Really
we
probably
need
to
add
back
in
and
that's
what
we'll
start.
Looking
at
department
by
department,
it'll,
be
the
bigger
departments,
that'll
be
harder
for
us
to
do
obviously
like
police
and
fire.
But
we
will
still
have
that
opportunity
mayor
for
sure
right.