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City of Charleston Council Meeting - March 14, 2019
A
A
We
pray
for
the
youth,
that's
in
the
room
tonight
and
let
them
know
how
important
they
are
to
this
moment
and
to
our
community
and
to
their
future.
We
pray
for
the
leadership,
though
we
may
debate
we
use
the
best
of
our
intellect
and
put
from
the
best
of
our
integrity
in
making
the
decisions
on
behalf
of
those
for
less
fortunate
and
our
citizens
picked
our
country,
a
state
and
those
who
are
fighting
for
democracy,
putting
their
lives
on
the
line
near
and
far.
B
Thanks
I'm
very
proud
to
welcome
up
to
the
podium
our
youth
volunteer
for
members,
along
with
the
program
manager,
Jennifer
Wong,
young
men,
men
and
women
volunteered
for
y'all.
Please
come
forward.
There
may
be
a
few
extras,
or
maybe
one
missing,
but
these
are
the
names.
I
have
kiri
Antrim
faith,
Brown,
Peter,
Clayburn,
Kaylin,
Brown
Lenise,
a
word
y'all
come
up
behind
me,
please
vanch
nag
call
and
Massey
Sundaram.
B
So
these
are
all
youth
volunteer
corps.
Members
of
a
program
that
we
started
just
three
years
ago
and
already
they've
won
a
national
award
for
engagement
in
their
community
and
their
volunteerism
in
our
overall
program
has
expanded
in
three
short
years
to
145
Youth,
Service
volunteers,
working
on
83
different
projects
this
year
and
have
completed
over
a
thousand
1102
hours
to
be
exact
hours
of
service
to
the
Charleston
community.
So
we
have
serving
also
not
only
on
our
local
youth
advisory
board
but
kirie
angklung
and
excuse
me,
which
one
is
kiri
your
right
here.
B
Thank
you
he's
also
on
the
International
Board,
for
youth
volunteer
corps
and
in
serving
as
an
influencer
and
brand
and
ambassador
these.
All
these
young
men
and
women
are
remarkable
examples
of
what
it
means
to
give
back
to
their
community
and
their
true
leaders.
So
since
they
go
one
national
gold
status
recognition,
we
wanted
to
invite
them
here
tonight
and
thank
you
for
what
you
do
for
our
community
and
everyone.
Please
recognize
them.
B
So
hearing,
if,
if
I
may,
ask
you
since
you're
a
designated
on
the
international
board
and
service
sir
routes
serving
as
brand
ambassador,
would
you
like
to
make
a
few
remarks
for
the
group
I'm
putting
in
more
and
putting
him
on
the
spot?
Y'all
come
on
come
on,
you
can.
D
C
B
F
Been
working
with
the
Charleston
County
School
District
academic,
magnet
high
school,
the
achieving
Charleston
excellence
grant,
which
is
a
$100,000
diversity,
grant
that
the
school
received
to
diversify
the
people
who
are
enrolling
in
the
school
and
through
that
I
was
connected
with
the
st.
Andrews
Elementary
gifted
and
talented
program
and
they're
wonderful,
wonderful
teacher,
miss
Bowie.
She
asked
me
to
come
in
and
speak
about
local
government
this
morning
to
their
class.
It's
a
very,
very
large
large
class
and
probably
some
of
the
smartest
kids
I've
ever
met
in
my
entire
life.
F
These
kids
are
9
to
10
years
old
and
they've
gone
10
times
past,
where
I
am
and
my
intelligence
and
I
know
all
these
guys
can
attest
to
that.
That's
not
a
stretch,
but
what
I
did
is
I
kind
of
explained
them.
What
we
do.
They
had
a
lot
of
questions
about
policy
and
that
sort
of
supplement
you'd
be
amazed
that
the
two
issues
that
they
talked
about
for
the
whole
time
pretty
much
transportation
and
and
littering
they
have
so
many
great
ideas
for
transportation.
F
They
were
literally
drawing
like
little
architects,
light
rail
systems
and
how
they
could
work
and
how
you
know
a
train
doesn't
have
to
actually
have
to
be
to
the
track.
It
can
be
a
magnet
and-
and
then
they
were
talking
about
one
of
the
kids
actually
already
did
a
community
trash
pickup
day
on
John's
Island
500
pounds
of
trash,
and
he
said
it
really
really
hurt
him
when
he
went
back
a
couple
weeks
later,
and
it
was
all
back
again.
These
kids
are
our
future
and
I
stress
that
to
them
today,
I
said
to
them.
F
F
They're
amazing
and
I
made
myself
a
copy
as
well
I'm
happy
to
make
a
copy
for
everybody,
because
they're
spread
out
all
over
the
low
country,
but
I
think
what
we
can
do
is
start
reading.
Some
of
these
I
mean
when
our
future
of
Charleston
has
these
kind
of
ideas.
It
really
really
motivates
me
and
I
know
it'll
motivate
all
of
us,
but
I've
also
asked
their
class
that
come
up
with
a
transportation
plan
that
we
could.
We
could
bring
to
to
director
Keith
Benjamin
to
give
these
kids.
F
You
know,
since
that
local
government
is
working
for
them
and
that
their
issues
and
ideas
are
discussed
in
city
council,
so
I.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
and
I'm
just
so
amazed.
Our
future
of
Charleston
is
really
really
bright
and
I'm
sure
we've
got
some
future
councilmembers.
We've
got
some
future
directors
of
departments
just
very,
very
proud.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
councilmember
Griffin
and
just
two
other
related
kind
of
announcements.
I
guess
one
is
just
let
you
know
there
was
also
a
Youth
Summit
meeting
at
the
citable
today
that
the
mayor's
Youth
Council
puts
on
every
year.
There
were
hundreds
of
high
school
students
from
all
around
the
county
and
they
were
engaged
in
a
number
of
workshops,
including
my
topics
like
your
voice
in
government
government
and
u101
how
to
find
my
voice
in
government
and
also
a
full
listening
session
with
you
of
our
lumination
project
as
well.
B
So
it
was
really
a
terrific
event
and
again
a
jennifer
mundt
walked
out
of
the
room,
but
she
also
coordinated
that
summit
as
well,
and
that
was
terrific
and
then
lastly,
I
want
to
thank
the
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
is
in
Scottsville
here.
Maybe
he
left
he
was
here
earlier
because
they
are
partnering
with
us
on
the
mayor's
challenge
for
1,000
1,000
youth
employment
jobs
this
summer,
and
we
had
a
few
businesses
that
have
already
committed
to
hiring
you
this
summer.
B
I'm
asking
businesses
to
hire
at
least
to
you
and
pay
a
reasonable
wage
and
provide
a
minimum.
A
bare
minimum
of
12
hours
a
week
of
employment,
the
city
of
Charleston,
to
let
you
know,
along
with
the
benevolence
of
the
the
bill
Ackerman
foundation,
is
able
to
provide
summer
youth
jobs
to
48
individuals,
and
so
I
was
real
surprised.
One
of
the
other
businesses
willing
to
hire
youth
the
summer
was
Charleston
Southern
University.
They
committed
to
hiring
50
youth
this
summer,
so
they
did
I
outdid
us
by
two,
so
I
told
them.
B
Oh,
we
might
try
to
step
up
a
little
further,
but
there
was
even
a
doughnut
shop.
A
law
firm
other
businesses
present
and
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
is
going
to
be
challenging
all
their
membership
this
summer
to
hire
at
least
two
youth
from
high
school
and
I.
Think
it's
a
great
effort
for
Workforce
Development
and
to
give
some
youth
some
experience
in
the
workplace.
Alright.
So
moving
on,
we
have
next
approval
of
City
Council
minutes
from
February
26.
B
We
got
a
motion
to
approve
and
a
second
any
changes
deletions
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
the
opposed
the
eyes
have
it,
and
next
already
was
our
citizens
participation
period,
but
I'm
still
going
to
add
you
since
we're
running
a
little
late
to
keep
your
remarks
to
two
minutes.
Please,
and
so,
madam
clerk,
if
you
would
call
out
the
names,
no.
B
Francis
indicated
she's
fine
with
two
scenarios
here,
one
she'll
stay
and
do
it
later
or
two
to
tell
you
the
truth.
We
could
give
you
the
update
on
the
annexation
at
the
next
meeting.
It's
it's!
It's
nothing
that
we'll
be
taking
action
on
in
the
next
two
weeks.
It's
just
something
that
we
want
to
advise
council
that
occurred
at
a
court
proceeding
recently,
so
I'll
leave
it
up
to
the.
B
G
H
It
easy
to
be
stupid,
but
very
difficult
to
be
ignorant
with
all
the
technology
that
we
have.
You
sit
in
here
and
you
with
our
time-
and
you
know
the
decision
have
already
been
made
before
you
got
here
and
how
people
sit
here
all
night
long.
Then
you
give
the
citizens
in
a
minute
me
attacking
Berg,
so
he's
going
some
ian.melsom
me
and
mill.
Somebody
said
he's
the
devil.
I
didn't
want
the
man
to
act
like
that.
Cuz
I
bought
it
for
the
mill,
but
he
said
he's
gonna
act
like
me.
H
I
I
Now
the
begs
the
question
is:
are
there
like
fifteen
hundred
change,
orders
that
have
been
signed,
I
mean,
what's
going
on,
you
guys
are
being
kept
in
the
dark
and
I
just
looked
at
this
address
for
the
some
least
one,
this
property
at
fifty
four
thousand
dollars
a
month.
It's
a
parking
lot
come
on
guys
who,
in
the
world
did
this
who
signed
this
lease
agreement.
It's
ridiculous
contractors
all
over
the
city
do
not
have
space
to
lay
down
their
stuff
close
to
the
jobsite.
They
make
it
work,
I
guarantee
you.
I
So
just
as
a
warning
to
the
mayor
and
some
of
the
others
in
here
staff
I'm
going
to
submit
a
FOIA
request
on
this
thing
and
I
expect
it
to
be
answered
in
a
timely
manner.
If
not,
then
I
will
get
the
lawyers
involved,
but
this
is
out
of
control.
I
know
certain
council
members
have
asked
for
certain
things
and
they
can't
get
it
I,
don't
think
we're
looking
at
somebody
trying
to
stay
out
of
I'm
going
to
jail,
maybe
a
lot
of
people.
Thank
you.
G
J
Way:
I'm
flexible
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
members
of
council,
Jason,
Crowley,
director
of
communities
and
transportation
I'm
here
to
speak
briefly
on
two
issues
before
you
tonight.
The
first
is
I'd
like
to
commend
you
all
on
the
hard
work
and
thought
you've
put
into
the
freeboard
requirements.
I
think
this
is
a
good
opportunity
to
be
able
to
bring
the
city
of
Charleston
into
the
same
compliance
as
Charleston
County.
There's
one
minor
tweak
that
we
encourage
you
all
to
consider,
though,
and
that
is
in
regards
to
new
construction.
J
We
urge
you
not
to
allow
the
use
of
fill
material
to
raise
the
overall
site
up
to
in
order
to
create
the
freeboard
requirement.
So
that's
the
only
change
that
we
thought
should
be
added
in
to
make
this
very
strong.
The
other
issue
that
we
wanted
to
give
comments
on
tonight
is
the
proposed
amendments
to
the
stormwater
ordinance
in
Church
Creek
that
will
be
discussed
during
executive
session
tonight.
This
is
something
that
we
think
you
all
should
not
do.
J
As
we've
discussed
over
many
meetings
over
many
years
now,
Church
Creek
Basin
is
one
of
the
most
heavily
studied
basins
in
our
region
and
the
science
that
has
come
to
date
now
has
given
us
information
that
we
did
not
know
when
the
construction
of
this
project
began.
Therefore,
if
this
project
can't
change
its
design
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
new
standards,
then
this
is
not
a
project
that
is
worthy
of
this
very
sensitive
area.
This
is
a
mere
blocks
from
where
we
just
spent
millions
of
dollars
of
taxpayer
money
to
buy
out
40
homes.
J
So
why
would
we
want
to
be
spending
money
or
allowing
money
to
be
spent
to
move
people
into
this
very
sensitive
area
imposed
a
risk
of
having
to
use
taxpayer
dollars
to
vote
or
to
buy
out
more
flood
victims
after
the
amount
of
impacts
that
have
happened
in
shadow
Moss?
This
community
does
not
deserve
to
have
more
people
put
in
harm's
way
and
we
encourage
you
to
maintain
the
standards
as
written.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
K
L
Some
work
is
underway
all
over
the
city.
Much
of
it
lies
ahead.
The
panel
was
organized
by
groundswell,
the
mayor
and
every
council
member
were
invited,
but
it
was
noted
that
the
only
one
to
attend
was
Councilman
seeking
to
other
people
responded.
Had
you
been
there,
you
would
have
heard
the
questions
and
the
fears
of
the
people
you
represent
about
when
and
whether
their
property
and
their
security
are
going
to
be
protected
by
flooding
from
flooding.
L
Calhoun
West
has
been
designed
to
protect
nearly
half
the
peninsula,
a
unique
part
of
our
city.
This
effort
is
decades
late
and
many
lives
and
millions
of
dollars
of
property
value
are
at
stake.
I
am
acutely
aware
that
it
has
become
unpopular
in
this
room
to
point
to
the
peninsula
as
the
economic
and
cultural
engine
of
the
city
of
Charleston,
but
the
reality
is
that
if
we
do
not
save
downtown,
Charleston
Charleston
at
large
will
suffer
greatly
and
all
the
burgeoning
development
will
be
for
naught.
L
K
By
G
Bryant
the
one,
and
only
check
this
out
all
right,
this
guy,
the
public.
This
got
my
response
back
from
the
Fourth
Circuit
Court
of
Appeals
Judge,
Gregory,
Chief,
Judge,
Gregory
and
AG,
and
Diaz
circuit
judges
regarding
matters
of
fees
and
a
lock
return
collateral
order
was
was
given
like
I
appealed
it
to
the
Supreme
Court
sovereign
immunity
is
provided
for
Army
Corps
engineers
and
tort
forming
Act,
which
provides
for
its
are
going
to
be
for
D,
Hagen
and
other
agencies.
K
Solid
immunity
basically
means
there's
no
liability
for
their
decisions
and,
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
that,
I
just
be
with
that.
The
fourth
number
of
eyes
for
the
person
to
be
secured
a
person
I'll
serve.
Some
personally
affects
Federalist
49
deals
with
the
issues
to
Sunshine
Act
1976,
okay.
So
all
these
things
are
vitally
important.
People
can't
even
afford
an
attorney
in
this
state.
They
know
it
so
they
put
upon
all
these
rules
regulations,
knowing
that
you
can't
even
file
suit
on
your
own.
Nothing.
K
These
class-action
lawsuits
because
of
the
management
of
course,
is
horrible.
It
is
not
up
to
date
to
the
21st
century
at
all.
In
my
opinion,
that's
why
I
did
this
on
my
own
at
sea
and
have
asset
seizures
of
African
American
property
under
Justice
Department
for
years
from
a
former
years,
excuse
attorney
on
his
clonus
upon
his
body
service
versus
state
of
Indiana.
Tell
me
a
sec
seizures
of
property.
K
The
statements
allowed
to
take
people's
property
similar
to
1850s,
to
the
slave,
that,
when
African
Americans
were
seized,
his
property
and
getting
back
to
the
Masters
Dred
Scott
case
dealt
with
the
issue.
The
black
man's
right.
The
right
man
has
to
respect
looking
at
what
happened
in
the
city
of
Charleston,
with
two
people
laughing
at
a
black
man
beating
Millie,
says
a
whole
lot
about
your
intentions
and
your
program,
an
activity
within
law
enforcement.
Thank
you
thank.
M
We're
looking
forward
to
having
an
opportunity
soon
to
present
to
City
Council
a
brief
PowerPoint
presentation
on
Charleston
sister
cities
and
the
benefits
that
it
provides
our
community
and
we're
also
looking
at
expanding
this
out
to
cover
North,
Charleston,
Somerville,
Mount,
Pleasant
and
monks
corner
as
well.
So
thank
you
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
you
soon.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
N
My
name
is
David.
Dick
I
live
at
21,
Fenwick
Drive,
but
we
are
here
today.
This
is
Neil.
Stevenson
he's
the
architect
on
a
project
that
we're
working
on
I
own,
a
property
at
725,
King
Street
we're
trying
to
build
a
small
office
there,
and
we
have
the
support
of
Florence
Peters
from
the
housing
department,
and
we
did
have
the
support
of
Lee
Batchelder
with
zoning,
who
recently
withdrew
that
support
under
the
understanding
that
some
council
members
may
not
be
in
support
of
the
project.
N
This
Peter
suggested
that
we
come
here
to
try
to
address
those
concerns.
In
short,
we've
got
a
project
that
needs
a
special
exception
for
parking.
It's
a
small
3,500
square
foot
office
building
at
725,
King
Street.
We
have
a
5-year
lease
for
the
really
more
than
the
required
parking.
As
the
council
members
probably
know,
we
need
a
10-year
lease
to
meet
the
actual
zoning
requirements.
N
We've
also
got
a
petition
from
all
of
the
surrounding
neighbors
of
that
property
in
support
of
the
project,
and
so
we're
here
seeking
to
clarify
any
issues
that
council
members
may
have
that
an
objection
to
this
project
and
seek
their
support.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
discuss
that
further.
O
N
N
The
neighborhood
actually
voted.
It
was
actually
a
tied
vote
and,
unfortunately,
a
couple
of
members
of
the
community
that
weren't
going
to
support
it,
we're
out
of
the
room
at
the
time.
It
was
a
tie
vote
and
then
they
retook
the
vote
and
we
lost
by
one
vote:
councilmember
Lewis.
Hopefully
we
can
talk
to
you
afterwards
regarding
the
project.
N
B
P
Hey
everyone,
the
resiliency
and
sustainability
Advisory
Committee
met
on
Thursday
February
28th
at
11:00
a.m.
we
had
12
of
the
13
members
present.
So
many
people
were
there.
There
was
many
voting
that
happened.
It
was
more
informational
and
to
gather
feedback
from
the
committee.
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
was
Atlantic.
Seismic
testing
and
Janey
Borden
spoke
about
this.
She
meant
she
mentioned
the
city's
working
with
the
South
Carolina
Environmental
Law
project
to
oppose
offshore
seismic
testing
and
drilling
and
at
the
mayor,
signed
an
affidavit
stating
the
reasons
why
the
cities
opposed
the.
P
The
second
item
was
the
state
ban
on
bans.
The
classic
preemption
bill.
Janey
mentioned
that
the
city
opposes
this
bill
that
looks
to
take
away
our
home
rule
rights.
The
state
Senate
held
a
hearing
on
February
27th
and
no
firm
action
was
taken
at
that
meeting.
The
Senate
will
more
meetings
to
discuss
the
bill
and
the
next
one
is
scheduled
for
March
20th.
The
third
item
was
the
2019
green
business
challenge
and
workshop
series.
Clay
Middleton
announced
the
kickoff
of
the
sixth
green
business
challenge.
P
It
will
start
in
August
with
a
new
partnership
with
the
EPA
and
clay
also
mentioned
his
division
created
a
workshop
series
for
businesses
that
will
continue
through
August.
It
actually
started
today
to
help
prepare
businesses
for
the
challenge.
The
fourth
item
was
our
vulnerability
assessment
update
from
mark
Hobart.
He
announced
that
the
contract
was
approved
in
February,
as
you
all
know,
and
the
project
will
commence
in
March
on
Monday.
P
He
helped
mark
also
explain
the
components
of
a
vulnerability
assessment
and
just
exactly
how
risk
is
measured
in
that
process
and
the
final
step
of
the
vulnerability
assessment
is
to
determine
adaptive
actions
which
are
solutions
to
reduce
risk.
The
fifth
item
was
the
US
Army
Corps
of
engineer
and
insula
flood
mitigation.
Study,
update
and
Mark
also
gave
this
update,
and
he
explained
how
this
project
fits
into
the
vulnerability
assessment.
Seeing
this
project
addresses
only
one
threat,
it's
only
one
geographic
location
and
it
will
only
be
one
action.
P
And
the
final
item
are
this:
the
item
was
just
the
flooding
and
seal
the
right
strategy
website
update,
and
that
is
where
I
just
sort
of
performed
a
live
demonstration
for
folks
showing
them
the
new
flooding
and
sea
level
rise
strategy
online
and
that's
you
can
get
to
it
pretty
easy
at
the
city's
homepage.
/Sl
are
for
sea
level
rise
and
that
will
take
you
take
you
through
the
whole
strategy.
P
We
also
went
through
how
you
can
reach
the
initiatives
and
track
all
of
our
progress
on
the
initiatives
online,
and
we
showed
a
story
map
that
we've
recently
created
of
all
the
major
infrastructure
projects
which
include
drainage
and
flood
protection
projects
like
the
seawall
and
the
new
resilience
website
is
just
the
city's
homepage.
Slash
resilience
so
at
the
time
I
encourage
folks
to
visit
those
web
pages
and
provide
us
feedback
and
I
encourage
you
all
to
do
the
same.
P
B
Questions
for
miss
McCain.
Thank
you
for
that
update.
As
you
know,
that
committee
is
a
Advisory
Committee,
so
I
just
want
to
keep
council
and
formed
as
to
the
matters
they
are
discussing.
It
did
jog
my
memory
if
I
may,
to
make
one
other
brief
announcement,
and
that
is
when
she
mentioned
the
web
site.
B
We
did
send
out
a
press
release
on
this,
but
you
can
now
go
to
your
Apple
or
your
what's:
the
other
kind
of
phone,
the
Google,
the
Google
website
and
or
your
App
Store
and
download
the
city
of
Charleston
app
and
I
urge
all
our
council
members
to
do
that.
There's
lots
of
good
information.
You
can
pay
your
parking
fees
or
your
court
fines
on
the
city
app!
You
can.
B
You
can
see
all
kinds
of
events
that
are
going
on
pull
down
the
agendas
for
our
City
Council
meetings
and
other
means.
But
importantly,
you
can
contact
us.
So
this
contact
directly
goes
to
our
customer
service
desk,
which
you
know,
we've
been
advertising
the
phone
number,
seven,
twenty
four,
seven,
three
one
one,
but
you
can
now
reach
it
by
the
city
app
as
well,
through
Facebook
Twitter
or
by
sending
an
email
all
from
your
app
so
adopted
rain
is
on
here.
You
can
adopt
a
drain
on
the
city
app
as
well.
B
Okay,
so
everybody
check
that
out.
Thank
you!
So
next
we
have
a
number
of
boards
and
commission
appointments
and
reappointments
there
were
five
items:
a
through
F,
actually
six
items.
I
would
like
to
as
I
sent
out
a
note
today
like
to
make
changes
to
my
original
recommendation
on
number
F,
the
municipal
judges,
councilmember
Griffin.
Mr.
F
If
we
know
whether
or
not
these
people
are
showing
up
to
the
meetings
every
time,
these
are
important
committees
and
eventually
you
know
we're
gonna
have
to
vote
on
a
committee
of
a
commission,
the
Planning
Commission
that
in
some
cases,
is
more
important
than
us,
because
we
can't
overturn
them
and
we
don't
know
whether
they
go
to
the
meetings
or
not.
The
BA
r
is
on
there
as
well.
I
want
to
see
the
attendance
records.
Please
I've
asked
several
times,
I'd
like
to
see
them.
Thank
you.
Well,.
Q
B
B
Okey-Dokey
well,
I
would
like
to
just
address
the
attendance
matter.
These
are
all
volunteer
boards.
You
know
that
and
they're
they're
not
paid
and
and
some
of
them
you
know
like
the
resiliency
and
sustainability
advisory
committee,
that
we
just
got
the
report
from
that
I
chair
right
now.
You
know
we
change
the
bylaws
of
that
that
Advisory
Committee
to
be
honest
with
you
to
allow
for
proxies
to
attend,
because
there
were
some
members
who
weren't
attending
on
regular
basis,
but
now
the
companies
at
least
are
represented
and
represented.
B
Well
ever
since
we
made
that
change
because
they'll
send
someone,
but
for
the
example,
the
accommodations
tax
advisory
committee
that
I
think
councilmember
Gregory
chairs,
it
only
meets
of
how
many
times
they
all
meet
just
once
a
year.
So
you
know,
and
and
in
some
of
these
committees,
but
for
like
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
Zoning
Commission
aren't
in
the
VAR
I
mean
those
are
pretty
special,
don't
get
me
wrong,
but
but
what
we
all
special
in
deeds
of
great
volunteer
opportunities
for
our
citizens.
F
Mr.
mayor,
the
only
point
I'm
trying
to
make
here
is
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
throughout
the
city
that
would
love
to
serve
on
these
boards
and
we
shouldn't
keep
APRI
appointing
people
that
aren't
don't
have
regular
attendance.
If
that
meeting
only
meets
once
a
year
and
they
don't
show
up,
they
should
be.
Somebody
else
should
be
on
that
board,
but
we
don't
know
for
sure,
because
we
I
don't
know
who's
going
all
these
meetings
I,
don't
think
it
would
be
very
hard.
F
B
At
the
point,
well,
tack,
taken,
let
me
let
me
share
with
you
that
I
do
there's
a
staff
member
that
marshals
each
committee
and
I
do
ask
them,
particularly
on
those
commissions
where
their
votes
come
to
us
and
matter,
so
to
speak
as
a
direct
course
of
business.
Whether
there
are
any
attendance
problems
so
without
getting
a
full.
B
You
know
scorecard
I,
do
ask
that
question
of
the
staff
member.
Is
there
somebody
who's
significantly
absent,
but
I
guess
with
a
lot
of
research.
We
could
look
through
the
minutes
of
each
and
every
meeting
and
that
might
take
a
little
time,
but
we
could
certainly
endeavor
to
do
that.
I
would
qualify
and
maybe
ask
for
forbearance
to
do
that.
Just
on
committees
like
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
var
and
the
design
review
board
and
those
those
boards
and
commissions
that
really
do
direct
decisions
that
come
to
the
council.
B
O
You
mr.
Mehra,
just
briefly
I,
think
sort
of
the
point
that
you
are
trying
to
make
is
the
boards
and
quilts
boards
that
can
bind
the
city
whether
there's
review
by
City,
Council
or
not
I
do
think
attendance
is
important.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
ask
Anna.
Mr.
Chito
is
busy,
but
for
night
for
instance,
tonight
we
have
two
new
members
BA
our
large
that
are
up
for
appointment.
I
do
think
it
would
be
interesting
for
me
anyway
and
I
think
my
fellow
council
members
see
who
else
is
applied
to
be
on
that
board.
O
I
mean
the
VAR
large,
that's
as
big
a
board
as
that's
an
important
job
as
we
have
in
this
chambers.
So
that
is
a
huge
job
and
they
combined
the
city
without
council
review,
so
I
think
knowing
their
attendance,
which
I
think
a
very
large
is
good,
but
we
should
see
it
and
then
I
mean
we
I
know
mr.
Mathers,
that
I
know
this
subject,
but
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
here
does
and
see
who
else
is
applied,
so
we
can
just
get
a
sense
and
a
flavor
of
the
applicants
for
those.
O
B
R
F
R
So
I
would
ask
to
whoever
made
the
motion
to
defer
to
make
that
distinction
between
so
for
tonight.
Keep
the
resiliency
and
the
Commission
on
disability
issues
and
the
Commission
on
women
and
the
accommodations
text,
because
they
only
meet
once
a
year.
So
really
I
would
ask
that
we
just
defer
the
decision
on
the
board
of
architectural
review
in
the
vein.
That
you're
just
discussing
are
a
clear
division
of
responsibilities
between
the
volunteers
of
our
city
and
I.
R
Would
love
to
be
in
your
district
council
member
Griffin
because
I
don't
I,
don't
I
I
have
tried
to
find
people
to
apply
for
the
Planning
Commission
in
particular,
and
some
of
the
other
groups
they
have.
You
know
that
kind
of
hefty
responsibility
and
I
don't
find
that
there's
a
lot
of
volunteers,
so
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
who
else
has
applied.
R
We
were
overjoyed
to
think
that
we
have
two
vacancies
that
can
be
readily
filled
on
the
Commission
on
women
and
I
thank
councilmember
Gregory
for
encouraging
one
of
his
friends
and
constituents
to
do
so.
So
I
think.
Maybe
it's
a
an
interesting
sociological
statement
of
our
time
when
people
are
very
engaged,
but
they
just
really
don't
want
to
make
the
commitment
of
the
time
and
the
effort
that
it
truly
does
to
serve
with
all
due
diligence
on
our
committees.
So.
F
I
respect
your
opinion,
but
I'm
not
gonna,
take
my
motion
off
before,
because
we
have
not
seen
everybody
who's
applied.
Just
in
that
logic
alone,
I
I
agree
with
you
that
resiliency
Commission
of
disabilities
Commission
on
women.
They
don't
directly
report
to
us
now.
They
they
do
bring
stuff
to
us
all
the
time,
but
I
would
like
to
see
who's
applying
to
these
positions.
Last
year
we
got
this
huge
spreadsheet
of
everybody
that
applied
for
every
Commission,
and
then
we
knew
whether
people
you
know
who
was
applying
this
year.
F
We
get
nothing
and
we
still
don't
know
the
attendants
and
I
promise
you
we
may
disagree,
but
I
promise.
You
I've
asked
at
least
three
times
even
back
the
last
year.
I
wanted
to
know
what
attendance
records
were,
because
these
appointments
are
very
important
and
they
bring
stuff
to
us.
Even
if,
even
if
the
Commission
on
women
doesn't
report
to
us
every
meeting,
they
just
bought
a
very
important
resolution
to
us
just
recently.
So
there
are
more
important
things
that
come
to
us
from
every
one
of
these
and
we
need
to
know
who's
on
them.
B
B
B
T
Always
forefront
in
my
mind
so
that
I
would
not
do
anything
to
discredit
the
city
or
to
make
you
regret
your
decision
in
appointing
me.
So
thank
you
very
much.
This
means
a
lot
to
me
and
I
have
an
enjoy
serving
the
city
of
Charleston
and
it's
been
a
great
honor
and
a
privilege
and
I.
Thank
you
for
it.
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you,
sir.
Yes,
sir.
U
U
We
have
great
collegiality
amongst
all
the
judges
and
Thank
You
mayor
for
making
the
recommendation,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
vote
of
confidence
in
me
and
I
assure
you
that
I
will
do
my
dead-level
best
to
continue
as
I
have
for
many
many
years,
looking
out
for
the
best
interests
of
all
the
citizens
here
in
the
city
of
Charleston
and
doing
it
with
the
utmost
integrity
and
honesty
and
in
fairness
to
all
our
citizens.
Thank
you.
So
much.
N
B
If
I
may
expound
for
just
a
minute
and
and
Chuck
judge
Morrison,
particularly
if
you
don't
mind
staying
for
a
minute
I
know
some
of
the
my
colleagues
on
council
feel
that
I
often
make
mistakes
or
missteps
I
will
share
with
you
that
occasionally
I
do
and
I
recognize
that
and
I
have
ears
and
I.
Listen,
because
this
was
contrary
to
the
initial
recommendation.
B
I
made
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
I
heard
comments
that
maybe
I
had
acted
too
too
quickly,
and
so
I
called
Judge
Marcin
earlier
this
week
on
Tuesday
and
then
had
what
I
should
have
had
weeks
ago.
A
more
extended
conversation
about
his
service,
about
his
devotion
to
the
city
and
to
the
court
and
sarai
I
apologize,
I
respect
you
wholeheartedly
and
I
just
wanted
to
I
just
wanted
to
publicly
say
that
and
I'm
so
glad
that
we
had
that
conversation
now.
B
I
do
want
to
take
that
just
one
step
further
and
and
share
with
Council
that
per
our
discussion
and
I
hope.
You
won't
mind
me
saying:
judge,
Marcin
and
judge
Maloney,
because
I
called
him
after
that
conversation
both
made
it
very
clear
that
this
is
their
last
term,
and
so
we
do
as
I
shared
with
you
have
over
60
years
of
experience
here
and
when
these
two
gentlemen,
really
together
retire,
there
will
be
a
void
and,
by
the
way,
I
didn't
want
to
share
with
counsel
of
another
I.
B
Guess
mistake
that
was
made
a
couple
of
years
ago
when
we
thought
we
were
staggering
the
terms,
so
all
four
judges
wouldn't
come
up
at
the
same
time.
In
fact
that
was
unnecessary,
because
when
Susan
went
back
and
reviewed
the
ordinance
that
said
all
this
all
these
positions
up,
in
fact
the
chief
judge
and
the
chief
administrative
judge,
those
two
have
four-year
terms,
but
the
two
associate
judges
truly
only
have
two
year
terms
anyway.
So
when
we
said
a
couple
of
years
ago
that
we
were
going
to
change
it,
so
we
would
stagger
it.
B
It
was
already
staggered
because
their
term
already
only
was
for
two
years.
I,
don't
know
that
the
city
had
kind
of
collectively
forgotten
that,
but
that's
that's.
What's
in
the
ordinance
in
that
right,
Susan,
so
all
that
being
said,
I
would
like
to
propose
to
Council
that
we
have
an
additional
Associate
Judge.
It
really
doesn't
require
council
approval,
but
I
want
to
share
this
thought
and
concept
with
you
and
add.
B
As
for
your
approval
for
an
additional
Associate
Judge,
because
when
the
two
of
them
retire,
we
want
somebody
to
be
there
and
be
ready
and
have
some
training
and
some
have
some
direct
experience.
And
even
though
you
may
learn
a
lot
of
things
in
law,
school
and
know
the
law,
there
are
certain
things
that
are
a
little
peculiar
to
Municipal
Court
and
that
right
judge
Maloney,
like
short-term
rentals,
like
livability
like
the
homeless
court.
B
So
there
are
many
aspects
to
our
Municipal
Court
that
are
somewhat
unique
and
from
what
I
understand
you
don't
take
a
course
in
law
school
to
learn
those
things
we
do
have
funds
available
in
in
our
Municipal
Court
budget.
To
do
that
this
year
and
I
would
propose
to
keep
the
appointment
that
I
had
recommended
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
that
being
kelsey
willie
and
and
bring
her
on.
B
As
an
associate
judge,
I
talked
to
both
judge,
Marcin
and
Maloney
about
serving
as
a
mentor
to
her,
and
they
both
agreed
so
that
over
the
next
two
years
should
be
able
to
gain
the
experience.
That
would
be
terrific
for
her
to
have
when
the
time
comes,
for
y'all
to
retire.
So
I
bring
that
suggestion
and
ask
for
Council's
approval
to
do
so.
X
F
Y
F
Mr.
mayor
I
would
just
ask
and
I
completely
completely.
You
taught
you
called
a
lot
of
us
and
we
had
a
good
candid
conversation
and
I
completely
understand
what
you're
saying
that
our
court
system
is
a
little
bit
different
with
livability
court.
But
what
what
I
would
ask
is
that
what
makes
miss
Willie
qualified
to
be
in
this.
B
B
So
I
don't
know
that
I
can
can
say
it
better
than
the
letter
of
recommendation
that
I
sent
to
you
today
from
Deborah
Gammons,
who
is
a
professor
at
the
Charleston
School
of
Law
and
was
just
a
week
or
two
ago
elected
as
the
president
of
the
Charleston
County
Bar,
because,
as
a
judge
needs
to
be
fair
and
civil,
a
judge
must
know
the
law.
Charleston
Municipal
Court
has
a
strong
reputation.
B
Judges
who
are
knowledgeable
caring,
respected,
respectful,
respected
and
fair,
miss
Willy
has
those
characteristics
to
continue
and
uphold
the
strong
reputation
of
our
court
highly
qualified
to
serve
as
a
Charleston,
Municipal,
Court
judge.
So
it's
it's
your
knowledge
of
the
law,
but
it's
also
I
think
your
temperament,
your
positive
attitude,
your
being
able
to
remain
calm,
but
also
the
knowledge
of
constitutional
rights.
All
that
is
mentioned
here
in
ms
recommendation,
which
again
I,
don't
know
that
I
could
express
any
better
than
her.
B
Who
was
a
teacher
of
Miss
Willie
at
one
time
at
the
at
the
School
of
Law,
so
I
believe.
That's
why,
with
a
couple
of
years
under
the
mentorship
of
these
two
fine
gentlemen,
we
we
have.
We
set
ourselves
up
to
make
a
good
transition
when
the
time
of
hers
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
recommend
to
you.
Councilmember
Wagner
I,.
Z
S
B
A
B
B
B
T
O
G
AA
B
AA
B
AA
Normally
as
a
manager,
you
would
identify
a
problem
and
in
this
case
the
need
for
creating
funds,
bench
talent
for
the
future,
for
judges
and
then
at
that
point,
you'd
got
and
identify
candidates
to
then
interview
and
identify
to
fill
that
role.
But
in
this
case
it
really
appears
that
we're
creating
a
role
for
one
person,
because
no
one
else
unless
I
misunderstood
has
been
considered
for
this
role
at
all.
So
I
guess.
B
What
I've
come
to
end
understand
that
this
is
a
pretty
unique
position.
It
was
in
our
regular
queue
if
you
will
of
appointments,
but
in
fact
it's
more
like
a
city
employee,
because
issues
such
as
retirement
and
health
insurance
I
mean
the
the
judges
actually
are
on
our
payroll,
so
it
it's
a
little
hybrid
of
an
animal
I
must
admit,
and
I
I
didn't
fully
have
my
head
around
that,
as
I
mentioned
before.
So
there
were
positions
available
online,
just
like
there
were
for
these
other
boards
and
commissions
that
we've
just
deferred.
B
O
I
just
want
to
follow
up
a
little
bit
on
councilmember,
white
and
I,
just
as
a
several
matters
of
procedure,
I
think
what
we're
doing
here
is
in
order
to
do
it.
We
have
to
follow
and
I'm
hoping
legal
counsels
along
with
me,
but
we
would
have
to
amend
our
agenda
to
bring
this
up
because
we're
creating
a
new
position.
O
We
haven't
provided
for
a
fifth
Associate
Judge,
so
we'd
have
to
go
back
and
amend
that
we're
then
gonna
have
to
create
a
new
position
tonight
and
then
fill
it
all
of
that
without
any
notice
then,
but
at
all
and
IIIi
have
I.
Think,
procedurally,
that's
problematic
for
me,
considering
in
advance
of
that,
or
in
addition
to
that
that
this
is
a
job
for
City
Council,
but
we
are
the
entity
that
is
to
fill
these
positions.
O
We
haven't
even
created
it
yet
and
we're
gonna
do
all
of
that
at
one
time,
I,
with
all
due
respect,
mr.
Merritt
I
get
it
that
we
need
to
fill
the
bullpen,
but
we've
got
two
years.
We
just
appointed
two
very
capable
people
for
two
years:
let's
do
it
procedurally
right,
let's
get
the
application
process
done.
Let's
see
who's
interested,
let's
get
the
bar
involved
and
if
there's
people
to
be
put
forward,
let's
consider
them
but
to
amend
an
agenda,
amend
a
budget
to
create
a
new
position
and
fill
it
all
tonight
without
any
notice.
B
I
appreciate
the
comments
I
mean
you
heard,
miss
Susan,
say
a
minute
ago.
We
don't
have
to
create
a
new
position.
Yes,
we
do
have
to
make
budgetary
transfer
in
order
for
there
to
be
enough
money
and
the
municipal
budget
to
cover
it,
but
we
don't
technically
have
to
approve
a
creation
of
a
new
position,
as
I
mentioned,
you
know
right
or
wrong.
This
had
been
treated
like
these
other
boards
and
commissions.
Appointments
and
and
I
had
presented
her
name
to
you
two
weeks
ago.
So
so
there
was
some
notice.
Q
T
E
O
O
E
B
B
B
S
Immunity
Belva
meeting
was
held
Thursday
March
7th
at
4:30,
and
we
had
two
items
that
we
discussed
on
agenda.
Both
items
were
approved,
however,
under
the
opportunity
zone
proposal,
which
is
simply
a
zoning
amendments
to
encourage
develop
an
affordable
housing.
The
committee
asked
the
planning
staff
in
concert
with
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
staff
to
review
and
revise
the
current
fee
structure.
S
The
committee
believed
that
the
fee
structure
was
inaccessible
and
wanted
the
staff
to
determine
what
fee
would
be
most
appropriate
for
the
zoning
Jacob
Lindsey
is
the
default
apartment,
Director
of
Planning
and
Dextre
or
Neil
O'connell
was
prepared.
The
amendments
staff
will
follow
up
with
the
recommendation
the
specific
to
the
feet
prior
to
the
second
and
third
reading
of
this
proposal.
Are
this
ordinance
so
I
move
for
approval
all
right,
so.
B
A
A
AB
Frank
and
another
commitments
but
I'll,
give
you
I've
got
Steve's
updates
basically
highlights
Steve
was
doing
spring
fishburne.
The
tunnel
machine
has
been
taken
out
of
the
president
of
street
shaft
and
that's
a
pretty
big
highlight
force
and
I'm
faced
for
the
pre
con
is
scheduled
for
tomorrow,
with
notice,
proceed
be
given
to
Conti
on
Monday
for
that
and
once
they
get
all
their
materials
they'll
be
starting
work
on
phase
for
the
Market
Street
drainage
plan.
The
plans
are
95%
complete
and
we
anticipate
bidding
in
the
third
quarter
of
this
year.
AB
So
Steve
head
on
Church
Street
the
flood
reduction
study
with
Western
Sampson,
the
Hickory
Farms
diversion
channel
projects
diamond
this
is
about
60%
complete.
We
look
for
the
construction
that
take
place
sometime
the
years
of
the
summer
and
that
as
anticipated,
it
once
that's
all
done.
The
cost
estimate
for
that
conclusion
will
be
four
hundred
eighty
two
thousand
dollars
for
that
project
and
also
we've
got
amendment
to
for
further
services
which
Western
Sampson
is
reviewing.
AB
F
Mr.
Chairman
I
would
like
to
bring
to
our
ways
and
kimete
ways
and
means
meeting
the
next
time
around
that
we
take
that
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
we
save
from
the
from
the
Dutch
dialogues
and
put
that
towards
that
1.6
for
the
designs,
four-link
daughter,
CSX,
rail
and
others,
because
we
don't
really
have
a
funding
source
yet,
but
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
start
that
that
Dutch
dialogue
was
going
to
really
touch
on
Church
Creek.
F
AA
AB
AA
AB
Looking
at
some
of
those
items
now
we
anticipate
the
next
three
to
four
weeks.
We
shall
have
some
information
to
bring
back
for
you,
they're,
looking
at
something
with
the
piles
I'm,
not
exactly
sure.
It's
a
lot
of
information
today
that
Steve
talks
about,
but
there
are
looking
at
some
of
those
items
and
we
will
bring
that
back
to
you
and.
AA
AB
AA
And
then,
lastly,
if
there
were
enhancements
added
in
phase
5
that
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
get
a
copy
of
that
and
the
subsequent
cost
with
any
enhancements
in
phase
5.
If
we
can
and
I
think
maybe
a
little
short
notice,
we're
meeting
that
hot
committee
Tuesday
next
week
possible,
we
can
get
that.
That
would
be
great
I.
Think
it'd
be
good
for
our
discussion
holistically
about
all
the
things
we'll
working
on
this
project.
I'll.
B
U
B
B
A
B
B
A
I
want
it
back
to
you
when
the
committee
report
has
been
given.
It's
been
the
custom
that
the
chairman,
if
chairman
conducts
that
report,
we
you
know
if
we
drop
it,
which,
if
we
try
something
new
now
real
estate,
does
that
Community
Development
just
did
that
this
is
the
Public
Works
and
utilities
report.
You
called
on
me
correct
and.
B
B
B
E
AB
B
C
Of
what
happened
during
the
last
phases,
which
is
costing
us
what
30-40
million
dollars
and
I
hate
for
us
to
wait:
1
2,
3,
4
5
years
to
start
on
bids
for
5
and
end
up
5
years
from
now
needing
another
30
million
I
just
thought.
That
was
a
legitimate
question
to
raise
and
I
think
it's
other
deserves
some
kind
of
answer,
because
we
ended
up.
AA
Just
speak
to
that,
it
was
my
recollection
from
ways
and
means
that
it
was
discussed
about
enhancements
that
had
been
added
to
do
all
the
face
of
the
projects
I
assumed
that
meant
additionally,
things
that
have
been
discussed
and
included,
we're
obviously
a
priced
out
phase
5,
because
we
know
what
were
short
so
I
presume
that
there
were
enhancements
that
were
included
in
that.
So
that's
kind
of
what
my
thought
process
was
coming
from.
AA
The
whole
point
is
this:
we're
gonna
have
to
start
figuring
out
a
way
to
pay
for
phase
5,
because
we
got
a
hundred
million
dollars
where
the
tunnels
that
are
only
half
valuable
to
us,
what
a
waste
of
a
hundred
million
dollars.
If
we
don't
get
it
finished,
and
so
it's
now
time
to
start
having
the
conversations.
How
do
we
shave
this
project
down
if
there
are
any
enhancements
that
have
been
contemplated
and
priced
in
for
phase
five?
Let's
take
them
out
now.
AA
B
Well,
I
guess
we
can
ask
if
there
were
any
enhanced
quote
enhancements
already
for
phase
5.
My
understanding
is,
we
haven't,
contracted
with
our
engineering
firm
to
do
the
design
documents
for
phase
5
yet,
even
though
they
have
all
these
conceptual
design
and
estimates
so
until
they
do
that,
we
wouldn't
have
those
enhancements
specified
yet,
but
I
could
be
wrong.
So,
let's
ask
them
you're.
AB
W
W
A
You
remember
me:
I'm,
asked
a
point
of
order.
The
reason
I
said
that
it's
been
the
custom
that
the
chairman
of
the
committee
gives
the
report
until
conclusion
of
that
report.
So
I
know
we
don't
have
that
answer
tonight,
so
I
might
have
legal
and
the
clerk
to
conduct
come
back
with
an
answer
to
that,
because
from
now
on,
these
chairmen
need
to
turn
over
the
reporting
of
their
committees
to
you
as
the
presiding
officer,
I'm.
B
A
To
conduct
the
meeting
and
I'm
asking
I'm
asking
to
get
a
ruling
on
that
between
now
and
the
next
meeting,
not
from
the
presiding
officer
from
our
procedures
and
the
rules
of
counsel,
because
that's
not
the
way
I've
seen
it
and
that's
not
the
way.
You've
seen
it
to
say
that
you've
conducted
that
where
we
got
too
much
film
to
show
that
that's
not
the
way.
These
meetings
have
been
conducted
under
your
three
years.
I've.
B
F
Mayor
I
think
that
you
were
right.
I
want
to
apologize.
I
spoke
a
little
bit
out
of
order
about
the
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
what
I
will
ask
is
that
it's
brought
up
at
our
next
public
works
committee
and
if
our
committee
approves
that
it
should
go
to
meeting
with
our
stormwater
department.
But
if
that
money
has
approved,
this
should
go
to
ways
and
means
for
the
next
agenda,
because
I
don't
want
to
see
that
money
get
lost
in
translation,
that
you've
got
a
lake
daughter,
I
assure.
B
You
we
won't,
let
$100,000
get
lost,
I
would
respectfully
I
would
respect.
Well,
it's
it's
dedicated
in
my
mind,
if
not
in
reality
to
stormwater
related
expenses,
so
I
think
that'll
be
part
of
our
discussion
of
budget
priorities
for
stormwater,
but
and
it
would
come
back
before
Ways
and
Means
Committee.
It
was
budgeted.
AA
A
Thank
You
mr.
beer,
yes,
sir,
we
had
we
had
a
good
report.
Thank
you.
Yes,
sir
mr.
O'brien
Thank
You
mr.
newm
gave
some
very
good
reports
on
updates
cleaning
out
prices
matter
of
fact,
one
was
on
Lambo
that
had
I
think
it
was
80%
full
with
fluff
mugs
compact
compacted.
All
of
that,
the
system
of
kinda
project
managers
and
teaming
up
with
our
drainage
people
and
the
private
sector
is
engaged
in,
is
working
and
is
working
very
efficiently
and
unfortunately,
I
wanted.
Mr.
A
maybe
I
can
we
can
ask
for
public
works
and
utilities
going
forward,
maybe
to
be
a
little
bit
sooner,
because
it's
beneficial
for
all
council
members
to
hear
from
our
engineers
on.
What's
being
done,
it's
good
for
the
citizen
to
hear
it
is
not
gonna
be
covered
in
committee
in
a
broad
way,
with
drainage
having
the
priority
that
it's
gonna
have
and
should
have
and
rightfully
have
I
think
the
public
should
have
access
to
the
accurate
information
that
our
engineering
different
engineers
are
bringing
forth.
A
So
he
had
a
very
good
report
on
that
and
I
think
you
all
need
to
hear
it,
because
it's
gonna
trigger
some
service
opportunities
that
you
all
know
about
servicing
opportunities
that
you
all
know
about:
Newark
District,
where
pipes
are
compacted
and
the
like.
So
it's
great
for
Public,
Works
and
utilities
committee
members
to
hear
it,
but
that's
five
of
us
balance
sheet
here
we
had
an
update
from
the
floodplain
manager,
Thank
You,
mr.
Klein
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
come
and
share
some
information.
V
AC
The
the
freeboard
is
coming
in
a
little
bit,
but
just
want
to
in
in
our
meeting
just
gave
an
update
about
our
most
recent
and
hopefully
final
sin
middle
of
requested
information
following
the
community
assistance
visit
from
FEMA
and
DNR
that
occurred
last
August,
and
now
that
that
is
that
chapter
is
hopefully
closed.
We
will
just
proceed
in
to
focusing
a
lot
of
attention
on
our
community
rating
system.
Upcoming
cycle
visit.
A
A
We
got
two
or
three
of
them
in
motion
now,
so
in
other
words
opens
Ardmore
and
I
think
a
couple
of
them
in
councilman,
shaheen's
district
and
that's
something
that
we're
gonna
need
going
forward
and
a
lot
of
old
areas
in
particular
west
of
the
peninsula,
James
Island,
West,
Ashley
and
John's
Island,
so
that
process
I
hope
we
gonna
get
better
at
because
we
will
need
a
lot
of
it.
Going
closer
complements
and
legal
sense.
We've
asked
for
it
and
now
they're
doing
it.
Thank
you
ness
to
balance
of
my
report.
Thank.
B
You
very
much
I,
don't
think
any
of
that
required
any
action,
so
I
would
share
with
you
and
Katie
very
briefly
mentioned
it
when
she
gave
her
resiliency
report
that
our
new
website
and
it's
available
through
our
city
website
the
website.
That's
information
on
drainage
and
flooding
includes
an
update
on
all
those
projects
that
you
were
referring
to
so
I
know,
that's
not
a
it's
always
good
to
give
a
oral
presentation,
but
that
the
information
is
available
online.
So
next
is
our
Committee
on
it
means
we
have
a
motion
to
approve.
B
Favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
Next
is
our
bills
up
for
second
reading,
four
and
five
were
deferred
by
the
applicant,
so
we
would
be
taking
one
two
three
and
six.
If
that's
acceptable,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
for
one,
two,
three
and
six
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
now
for
third
reading
and
Latta
fication.
We
got
a
motion
and
a
second
on
numbers:
1,
2,
3,
&,
6,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
you
opposed
the
eyes.
B
B
A
A
That
flooding
incident
affected
one
development.
What
we
doing
now
now
I'm
gonna,
have
to
speak
out
for
the
areas
that
represent
all
these
woods
Ardmore
a
lot
of
the
houses
there
are
own
slabs
he's
so
FAR's.
Well,
you
represent
that
councilman
Lewis
Wetzel
for
virtually
this.
This
goes
beyond
the
less
fortunate
this
piece
about
being
able
to
raise
slap
houses
at
affordable
cost.
We
can't
do
that.
The
numbers
that
we've
being
quoted
aren't
accurate.
A
You
ask
engineers
how
much
is
the
cost
of
Jack
a
house
up
foot
two
feet
whatever
our
people
can't
give
us
an
answer
to
that,
we
are
focusing
on
the
reduction
in
the
cost
of
flood
insurance,
because
we
get
a
couple
of
points.
None
of
our
people
have
given
us
answers
on
how
much
your
homeowners
insurance
will
go
up
and
that's
if
you
have
the
broad
form
of
coverage
coverage
that
may
pick
up,
should
you
sustain
a
50%
or
more
loss.
A
The
right
raising
of
your
house,
the
majority
of
people
in
the
city
of
Charleston
do
not
have
the
money
to
hire
a
firm
to
put
iron
rails
under
the
house
Jack
it
up,
put
it
on
blocks
and
again
the
brick
nation
and
the
light
to
come
in
and
do
that
downtown.
It
cost
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
do
it.
A
A
That's
got
to
come
from
personal
savings
and
we've
heard
where-
and
this
was
an
hour
I'll
report-
well,
I-
guess.
The
federal
government
now
is
looking
at
right
now.
There's
an
open
call
of
a
grant
for
lack
of
a
better
term
to
raise
your
house
they'll.
Give
$30,000
well
I
have
a
person
in
my
district
who
happens
to
be
a
fireman,
and
he
and
his
wife
has
experienced
at
least
two
flooding
events
that
took
them
out
of
their
homes.
I
think
it
was
been.
A
Three
they've
been
trying
to
get
the
30,000
to
raise
the
house,
and
it's
been
in
excess
of
four
years.
They
hadn't
got
a
penny.
So
if
the
federal
government
carries
that
to
60,000,
we
hope
they
do.
How
long
does
it
take
how
long
you're
gonna
be
displaced?
What
we're
looking
at
is
potentially
if
we
have
an
Andrew
that
were
to
come
through
in
a
Michael
that
came
through
the
Gulf
creates
a
lot
of
wind
damage,
not
flooding
a
lot
of
wind
damage.
Roof
is
going
off.
Maybe
a
wall
fall
down.
A
You
gonna
experience
a
50%
of
more
loss
on
your
property.
You
going
to
be
displaced,
you
get
the
money
to
repair
in
place
and
the
city
of
Charleston
said
no.
No,
we're
not
gonna
issue
that
building
permit.
You
got
to
raise
your
house
up.
The
me
and
I
have
had
this
conversation.
He
said
we
already
had
FEMA
plus
one,
and
he
said
and
I
agree.
They
are
already
in
that
trap.
Those
homeowners
are
already
in
that
trap
and
I
agree.
It
is
a
trap.
A
These
people
don't
even
know
that
they
are
subject
to
have
one
of
the
largest
expense
and
they
largest
assets
until
a
tragedy
occurs,
a
tragedy
has
to
occur,
and
then
we
go
have
to
go
down
and
have
arguments
over
whether
it's
50%
loss
or
more
or
less
in
the
areas.
That's
going
to
be
have
a
punitive
effect
will
be
the
predominantly
african-american
and
brown
areas.
A
Why,
from
an
appraisal
standpoint,
those
are
the
lower
valued
properties,
so
that
means
they're
gonna
hit
that
50%
threshold
or
more
sooner
last
month,
I
brought
the
example
of
the
lady
and
Councilman
Lewis
district,
whose
house
from
the
county
assessed
value
it's
fifty
one
thousand
dollars
so
chic,
it's
twenty-five
thousand
five
hundred
and
one
worth
of
damage
technically
she's
gonna
have
to
raise
her
house
and
I'm
promise
you.
She
doesn't
have
the
broad
form
of
coverage,
they're
tens
of
thousands
of
people
the
neck
in
that
position,
and
we
are
signing
this
cost
to
them.
A
Is
the
money
coming
from
the
federal
government?
No
is
the
money
coming
from
the
state
government?
No,
we
certainly
know
we
have
a
200
million
dollar
city
budget.
If
we
dedicate
it,
every
penny
got
rid
of
the
police,
got
rid
of
the
firemen,
no
parks
and
recreation.
We
couldn't
pay
for
it
all,
but
we're
gonna
sign
that
cost.
Why?
Because
it
makes
good
sense
in
the
campaign,
flooding
is
number
one.
A
A
A
A
A
Because
we
just
had
that
conversation
in
an
executive
session,
our
people
deserve
better,
so
I
will
vote
against
this
and
for
the
rest
of
this
can't
mean
I'm
up
for
re-election,
I'm,
going
to
go
to
every
community
and
every
area
that
I
can
think
of
and
speak
about.
The
extra
cost
that
this
city
of
Charleston
is
assigning
to
our
residents.
Should
a
tragedy
hit
us
a
hurricane
tornado
earthquake,
all
of
which
we
overdue
in
remember
Hugo.
Many
of
us
do
in
1989.
A
Hugo
was
not
a
direct
hit
that
hit
an
almond
on
the
Clintonville
and
Johnson.
Looked
like
a
bomb
headed
after
you,
though,
so
we
are
willingly
exciting.
The
fact
that
we're
gonna
raise
houses
and
assign
it
to
the
blue
collars,
the
working
people
and
the
less
fortunate
on
the
subject
that
they
really
don't
know
about.
We
are
that
the
Stewart's
on
that,
so
the
motion
is
on
the
floor.
I
will
put
a
substitute
motion
if
I
can
get
a
second
on
the
floor.
The
argument
has
are
the
debate.
A
B
A
A
substitute
motion
on
the
floor
live
if
we
need
we've
done
this
before
substitute
motion
to
express
the
presence
of
the
current
question
being
considered.
We've
gone
to
Robert's
Rules
of
Order
on
that
about
a
year
ago.
My
substitute
motion
is:
will
approve
free
board
for
new
construction
and
any
renovations
of
50%
or
more
substantial
renovations.
That
is
not
where
the
debate
is
I
think
we
have
a
unanimous
vote
on
that.
A
AD
Thank
you,
madam
clerk
I,
do
want
to
say
that
that
that
most
of
what
councilman
Waring
was
saying
it
is
correct.
He
referred
to
board
a
broad
form
of
coverage.
There
used
to
be
it
used
to
be
very
simple.
You
had
the
broad
form
of
coverage
or
you
didn't
it's
actually
a
little
more
complicated
than
that
with
homeowner's
insurance.
Today,
homeowners
insurance,
since
Hurricane
Katrina
insurance
companies
have
kind
of
changed
things
on
homeowners
insurance,
it's
a
little
more
Alucard.
AD
If
you
will,
you
can
kind
of
pick
and
choose
the
coverages
that
you
want
there
most
people
when
they're,
quoting
particularly
if
they're
buying
a
home
people,
are
quoting
and
they're
looking
for
the
cheapest
possible
quote
out
there,
and
that's
just
and
I
blame
it
on
the
insurance
industry.
More
than
anything
because
15
minutes
or
less
we
can
save
you
15%
and
that's
all
people
think
about
is
how
much
money
can
I
save
they're,
not
really
worried
about
how
well
am
I
covered.
Now
there
are
some.
There
are
some
people
that
are
concerned
about.
AD
AD
If
they
choose
not
to
purchase
those
coverages
and
then
let's
say
that
they're
at
1
foot
above
base
flood
now
they're
gonna
have
to
rebuild
their
their
home
at
2
feet
above
it's
they're
not
going
to
be
properly
covered.
At
that
point,
most
homes
built
before
1974
are
actually
can
be
below
base
flood
elevation
because
in
1974
is
when
FEMA
came
in
and
made
these
standards
where
you
had
to
be
plus
1
most
homes
built
before
1974
are
not
even
at
plus
1.
AD
A
lot
of
them
are
below
the
base
flood
elevation,
so
they
may
be
building
their
home
much
more
than
two
feet.
So
in
doing
this,
with
existing
homes,
there
will
be
a
lot
of
under
inch
people
and
if
we
have,
if
we
have
losses
of
more
than
50%
people,
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
rebuild
their
homes.
So
a
lot
of
what
councilman
Waring
said
is
is
absolutely
correct
in
that
regard,
but
I
also
want
to
make
the
point
that
we
may
not
actually
be
if
we're
covering
them
properly.
O
Mr.
mayor
Stephen
I
voted
for
this
from
first
reading
reluctantly,
a
couple
of
reasons:
one
we
were
talking
about
new
construction
and
fill
dirt.
Have
you
given
any
that
any
more
thought
about
whether
or
not
under
this
ordinance,
we
should
require
no
fill
dirt
to
meet
these
requirements
and
new
constructions.
AC
This
particular
ordinance
amendment
for
consideration,
because
this
ordinance
amendment
is
meant
to
apply
citywide
and
the
application
of
regulations
regarding
Phil
I
think
require
a
bit
more
research
and
understanding
of
different
areas
of
the
city
before
enacting
a
regulation
of
Phil
citywide,
so
I
think
that
the
two
certainly
are
related
and
that
we
need
to
continue
our
investigation
of
Phil
regulations,
but
I'm,
not
certain
that
this
ordinance
amendment
is
the
is
the
right
way
to
roll
those
together.
Just.
O
A
fair
point,
but
I
mean
we
are
gonna,
be
looking
at
our
stormwater
regulations.
Right.
That's
coming.
We've
got
a
new
stormwater
director
coming
on
Monday
Monday,
your
office's
just
gonna
be
right
down
the
hall
from
him
and
I.
Just
don't
understand
how
these
two
pieces
of
legislation
and
ordinances
don't
aren't.
Gonna
have
to
work
together
and
I
mean
if
we
enact
that
rule
and
regulation.
It's
gonna
affect
this
ordinance
as
well
right.
Well,.
O
Which
goes,
which
goes
first,
I
mean
that's.
Why
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
we
deal
with
that?
Do
we
send
a
message
tonight
saying
new
construction,
no
building
up
Phil,
because
that's
just
moving
water
around
this?
What
we're
doing
is
we're
gonna,
create
issues
for
other
people
when
we
have
people
using
field
to
the
new
free
board
requirements.
It's
just
a
mats
gonna
happen
right.
Is
you
can't
put
enough
Phil
over
the
earth
to
not
move
water
to
someone
else?
If
you
go
up
two
feet
to
meet
these
three
board
requirements?
O
AC
O
It,
but
it
still
requires
someone
to
take
up
an
application,
listen
and
have
the
power
to
grant
or
not.
Grant
it
right.
Correct
is
the
possibility
in
the
historic
district
that
your
variance
could
be
denied
that
that
worries
me
on
this
one,
because
that
just
opens
up
a
can
of
worms
of
epic
proportions
in
the
whole
historic
destiny.
So,
right
now,
I
think
we
should
build
into
this
ordinance
that
you're
gonna
in
new
construction.
You
can't
use
fill
dirt
to
go
up
to
two
feet.
O
F
I've
just
got
a
couple
of
points
to
make
here:
how
much
leeway
do
we
actually
have
in
drafting
this
ordinance
with
FEMA
when
they
come
for
this
visit,
because
when
this
first
came
up,
the
public
works
way
back?
When
you
know
we
had
to
have
a
pretty
specific
ordinance
in
place
in
order
to
get
the
credit,
so
is
by
us
excluding.
F
F
What
why
are
we
see?
I
want
to
put
this.
Why
are
we
making
this
decision
when
we
haven't
seen
the
new
maps?
Yet
because
I
am
we're,
gonna
I
mean
yeah,
it's
they're
kind
of
they
might
they
might
come
in
August
that
that's
when
you
expect
them
to
come,
but
the
new
maps
haven't
come
in
yet
how
do
we
know
that
we're
making
the
right
decision?
F
How
do
we
know
that
that
we're
in
the
right
place
at
that
at
that
time,
I
mean
that
August
visit
or
whenever
it
might
be
you're,
not
even
exactly
sure
they're
gonna
come
in
August?
Yet
are
you
know
they've?
Just
you
just
expect
them
it's
it's
about
that
time.
Well,
I
mean
Charleston
County's
kind
of
dragged
their
feet
a
little
bit
on
these
new
maps.
We
had
a
new
map
since
2004
we're
expecting
you're
expecting
by
the
end
of
the
year
that
we
should
have
new
maps
implemented.
F
May
that
is
a
big
part
of
this
process.
People
need
to
understand
their
elevations
going
to
change
its
gonna
change
insurance
coverage
right
by
changing
what
their
elevation
is
so
and
and
also
I
wanted
to
bring
up.
I
wasn't
on
council
back
in
15
when
y'all
went
to
FEMA,
plus
one
but
I'm
interested
to
know
what
sort
of
conversation
took
place.
Then
it
happened
kind
of
quickly
or
did
y'all
have
the
same
argument
back
then,
because
I'm
I'm
concerned,
you
know
you
know,
council,
member,
wearing
you
say
that
you
know
we've
already.
F
We've
already
put
people
on
a
track,
and-
and
by
doing
this
we
could
be
extending
that
track,
but
I
have
a
bad
feeling
that
might
councilmember
Sheila
said
he.
He
basically
made
my
decision
for
me
tonight,
because
I
was
going
to
vote
YES
on
this,
but
when
we're
talking
about
saving
pennies
and
could
cause
people
a
lot
of
money
because
I
mean
people
I
mean
if
people
go
out
and
get
the
right
coverage,
it's
gonna
cost
a
lot
more
than
what
we're
gonna
say:
we're
going
to
save
five
percent.
F
What
we're
saving
now
not
to
mention
it
could
drastically
be
fewer
people
that
it
impacts.
But
if
we
won't
see
the
new
maps
and
don't
know
we're
at
I
mean
I
got
a
vote.
No.
Just
because
I
believe
the
new
maps
are
going
to
show
a
lot
less
people
in
100-year,
floodplain
and
I
mean
it's
not
fair
for
us
to
make
an
ordinance
and
then
try
to
go
back
and
justify
it
later.
When
we
don't
even
have
all
the
information
that
we
need
to
make
the
decision.
R
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I
really
appreciate
your
expertise,
councilmember
Seeley,
so
thanks
for
being
elected
and
being
an
insurance
agent
of
good
reputation
and
long-standing
I
I
feel
like
I'm
sort
of
missing
something
here
with
this
whole
homeowners
insurance
deliberation
because
I,
don't
think
the
trap
that
that
you
know
you
as
you
call
it
has
been
created
by
the
city.
Basically,
the
trap
is
the
disconnect
between
the
elevation
of
an
older
home
that
is
potentially
built
before
below
the
base
elevation.
R
The
FEMA
requires
and
if
anything
happens
to
that
house,
no
matter
from
what
disaster
the
the
the
combination
of
the
insurance
company
and
the
mortgage
company
that
the
majority
of
people
still
have
in
this
in
this
region
would
require
that
the
house
be
built
back
to
whatever
elevation
FEMA
requires.
So
all
the
city
has
done
to
date
is
add
one
foot
to
that
elevation.
Is
that
not
true
councilmember
Seeley
I
mean
if
you,
if
you
have
a
mortgage
on
your
house
and
and
or
you've,
got
an
insurance
insure
that
says?
R
AD
Long
as
you
have
that
building
codes
coverage,
yes,
but
it's
an
optional
coverage
now.
It
is
true
that
every
once
in
a
while,
a
mortgage
company
will
require
that
you
have
that
building
codes
coverage
on
there,
but
the
majority
of
the
time
it's
an
optional
coverage
and
if
you
do
not
elect
to
pay
a
higher
premium
to
purchase
that
endorsement,
then
you're
not
covered,
but
it's
an
option
for
everybody.
But
a
lot
of
people
opted
not
to
have
that.
Well,.
R
R
You
know
if
we've
got
the
right
insurance,
so
I
do
think
that
we're
we're
making
things
very
black-and-white
when
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
shades
of
grey
for
people,
I
mean
if
we
have
people
who
cannot
afford
to
have
homeowners
insurance
I
think
we
should
start
talking
seriously
about
having
some
sort
of
subsidy
funds.
That
would
that
would
you
know
help
people
buy
insurance
every
year
that
that
would
be
the
problem.
If
we
have
disasters
that
we
could
expect
could
happen
here
in
Charleston.
That
would
wipe
out
whole
neighborhoods.
R
We
have
to
help
people
come
back,
so
I
I
really
feel
like
we're
yeah.
Maybe
maybe
people
are
choosing
to
have
too
little
coverage.
I,
don't
know
anyone
and
including
my
own
children's
generation,
who
are
being
that
Pennywise
and
pound-foolish.
But
maybe
there
are
people
like
that
and
if
there
are
I
think
maybe
we
should
help
them
be
educated
about
how
to
be
a
smart
homeowner
and
protect
your
assets
you're
for
most
people.
R
It's
your
major
asset,
but
by
taking
away
the
opportunity
for
the
rest
of
the
citizens
who
are
homeowners
in
this
city
and
not
have
the
opportunity
to
have
their
flood
insurance
discounted.
What
insurance
is
going
to
continue
to
go
up?
That
is
a
reality
and
I
think
in
what
we
would
be
missing,
that
train
for
five
years.
R
You
know
comparative
information
to
look
and
and
I
think
that
that
that
we
are
doing
the
right
thing
by
saying
yes
to
this
ordinance
and
giving
the
homeowners
of
the
city
the
chance
to
have
flood
insurance,
that
that
at
least
has
the
opportunity
to
be
more
affordable
next
year
than
it
is
this
year.
So
I
am
gonna
vote,
yes,
Thank
You.
W
Mayor
so
the
meat,
so
they
can
summarize
this
I
think
that
so
I
understand
it.
If
you've
got
a
mortgage
on
your
property
in
your
home
and
all
lotta
credit
regardless
if
you've
got
the
Cadillac
of
insurance
or
you
got
the
bare
minimum
of
insurance
that
the
mortgage
company
may
require-
and
we
do
nothing
with
this
ordinance
tonight
or
if
we
even
except
councilmember
Waring's
some
amendment
to
it,
I
guess
the
term.
W
If
we
do
nothing
and
something
happens
to
that
property
because
of
a
fire,
a
hurricane,
a
tornado,
a
train
runs
through
it
and
it
damages
that
property
to
greater
than
50%
of
its
value.
We
do
nothing.
It
is
required
of
you
to
raise
that
house
to
the
FEMA
level,
plus
one
plus
one
plus
one.
So
if
we
do
nothing,
you're
gonna
have
to
do
that
anyhow.
W
AC
The
panels
of
the
flood
insurance
rate
map
for
each
of
your
districts
for
both
the
currently
effective
map,
as
well
as
the
preliminary
map,
so
I
know
that
they're
not
necessarily
super
intuitive
to
read.
But
but
you
have
that
to
look
at.
You
can
kind
of
compare
side
by
side
panels
from
the
current
map
and
the
preliminary
map
to
see
how
the
flood
zones
in
your
district
are
changing
comes.
Q
Comment
that
I
keep
hearing
that
we
want
to
be
consistent
with
the
county
and
North
Charleston,
although
most
most
of
the
property
in
the
county,
that's
on
the
coast
or
Marsh
is
within
city
or
municipal
jurisdictions,
the
property
that
is
away
from
the
coast
and
the
marsh
is
okay.
It's
free
board
plus
two,
but
it's
already
high,
and
so
it
doesn't
have
the
same
effect
so
to
be
like
Charleston
County.
That's
not
really
saying
a
whole
lot
me
it's
kind
of
the
opposite
of
what
you
ought
to
be
doing.
Q
You
don't
be
looking
at
the
elevations
in
the
in
the
county
and
say
well
we're
already
at
that
level
that
it
wanted
I,
don't
I,
don't
know.
It
just
seems
like
a
false
argument
to
me
being
consistent,
there's
a
reason
about
Pleasants,
probably
at
one
because
they're
on
the
coast,
what
about
Sultan's
Allah
promises?
We
know
what
they
are.
They.
AE
Q
B
If
I
may
make
a
few
more
comments,
I,
it
has
anybody
who
has
not
spoken
like
to
be
heard.
So
it's
been
well
noted
that
call
it
a
trap
or
call
it.
What
you
will
that
at
this
point,
if
House
Beach
50%
damage
from
whatever
caused
the
house
would
need
to
be
elevated,
I
think
it's
a
a
good
goal
of
our
city
to
increase
our
community
rating
points
and
try
to
save
money
on
flood
insurance.
I,
certainly
respect
councilmember.
She
leads
observation
that
you
know.
B
If
you
had
the
proper
insurance,
you
know
you
might
not
save
any
money.
I
think
I,
remember
our
other
meeting
where
we
talked
about
this
you
you
made
this
statement
that
most
people
don't
have
proper
insurance.
They
need
a
insurance
agent
like
you,
so
that
they
would
know
the
right
kind
of
coverage
to
get
but
they're
just
shopping
on
price.
B
So
on
the
land
term
of
this,
of
course,
I've
spoken
about
and
and
I
most
respectfully
III
just
believe
that
we
we
need
to
do
as
well
as
we
can
on
our
community
rating
system
and
protect
ourselves
from
water
long
term.
It's
it's.
It's
a
been
a
goal
of
the
city,
I
think
before
I
ever
came
along.
Haven't
we
always
wanted
to
do
better
and
our
community
rating
points.
So
I
don't
know
if
the
sky
is
falling,
but
I
do
know.
B
The
sea
level
is
rising
and
over
50
years
we're
projecting
an
additional
two
to
three
feet
rise
and
I.
Just
think
it
makes
common
sense
to
start
building
and
if
we
have
to
renovate
a
place
to
get
it
up
higher
to
protect
it.
So
it
was
noted
and
Steven
corrected
the
the
number
after
he
looked
into
a
deeper
deeply,
because
we
we've
had
to
go
back
in
great
detail
and
study
since
2015
January
2015
all
the
losses
that
have
occurred
in
the
city
and
since
January
1
2015
they've.
B
With
with
that
big
rain
with
hurricane
Matthew
and
with
hurricane
Irma,
there
have
been
four
structures
that
reached
forty
percent
of
damage
and
needed
to
comply
with
what
we
were
talking
about.
Admittedly,
we
haven't
had
a
Andrew
or
Hugo
and
respectfully
I,
think
the
eye
of
the
hurricane
did
go
through
Charleston
Harbor,
but
it's
that
right-hand
side
of
the
storm
that
really
gives
you
the
bad
hit.
So
that's
why
north
appear
was
so
much
so
much
worse,
but
they
I
have.
The
storm
did
in
fact
I
believe.
Go.
B
Go
right
over
Charleston
Harbor,
but
the
point
is
of
those
four
structures
that
have
now
qualified
to
be
renovated.
Two
were
already
in
our
mitigation
buyout
program
and
one
has
just
applied
to
be
in
our
medication
by
our
program.
So
really
in
the
last
on
those
five
years,
only
one
property
is
affected,
and
so
I
I
believe
it's
a
good
goal
for
us
to
be
consistent
with
most
of
the
rest
of
the
county.
B
I
think
it's
a
good
goal,
despite
the
fact
that
most
people
don't
have
proper
insurance
on
their
homes
to
save
the
money
on
their
flood
insurance
and
I
would
respectfully
ask
Council
to
approve
this.
Now
we
have
a
substitute
motion
on
the
floor,
which
states
one
more
time
for
me.
If
you
world,
council
member
wearing
this.
A
Report
plus
two
would
apply
to
new
construction
and
substantial
renovations
of
50%
or
more
but
two
existing
homes.
It
would
only
apply
if
it's
reached
through
fronting
flooding.
In
other
words,
that
will
apply
if
they
had
a
flood.
They
created
fifty
fifty
plus
1%
on
one-tenth
of
damage
right.
Okay,
if
my
house
got
flooded
when
I'm
hit
by
lightning,
but
in
mom
and
I'm
motion,
it
flooded
and
created.
AC
A
Mike,
honey,
focusing
on
a
few
pennies
saving,
flood
insurance
and
Stephen
hadn't
focused
on
the
increase
of
homeowners
insurance.
That's
going
to
increase
more
than
the
pennies
we
save
on
flooding
and
all
due
respect.
Council,
lady
Jackson,
who
moves
insurance
basically
goes
up
every
year
to
just
like
flood
and
mr.
minute.
Throughout
your
talk,
you
spoke
to
goals
and
you're
right.
That
should
be
the
goal
and
encouragement.
That's
what
we're
doing
here
is
an
unfunded
mandate,
not
by
the
federal
government,
not
by
the
state
government
by
the
city
of
Charleston.
V
Y
B
And
I
meant
to
address
that
point.
I
I
think
Stephen
made
a
good
point
that
one
decision,
kind
of
and
one
have
a
lady
on
this
anyway.
So
I
respectfully
think
the
fill
matters
needs
to
be
addressed
in
our
stormwater
manual
and
if
we
knew
what
our
free
board
needed
to
be,
that
would
inform
the
changes
that
they
need
to
make
in
the
manual.
O
W
Just
as
a
point
of
clarification,
counsel,
I'm
wearing
it
I
think
I've
heard
you
correctly,
but
I'll
make
sure
I
got
it
right,
so
your
motion
would
have
the
effect
that
if,
if,
if
it's
a
flood-
and
it's
50%
no
more
than
this-
would
cover
it
or
if
I
have
a
if
I
have
an
existing
structure
and
I
voluntarily
decided
to
renovate
it
beyond
50%,
it
would
cover
it
as
well.
So,
in
the
exemption
that
you
Harvey
now
it
would
be
the
things
we
talked
about
before,
like
a
hurricane
or
tornado
or
fire.
B
W
B
O
Mayor
before
Stephen
leaves,
can
we
just
say
before
we
get
third
reading?
Can
we
have
them
come
back
and
give
us
another
synopsis
as
to
where
we
are
with
this
new
reading
on
points
on
all
that
and
by
the
way,
between
now
and
third
reading,
our
new
stormwater
director
will
be
here
and
perhaps
he
can
come
and
speak
with
us
a
little
bit
about
where
he's
thinking,
we
should
go
with
the
new
fill
to
that
fair
enough.
It's.
AC
O
G
G
B
Z
R
R
I
know
that
we
have
only
deferred
bills
for
first
reading,
but
I
would
like
to
speak
to
number
2.
If
that's
all
right
with
you
I
would
I
would
because
it's
listed
here
is
an
ordinance
that's
been
requested
by
Councilwoman
Jackson
I
would
like
to
move
to
have
that
ordinance
withdrawn
from
our
first
reading
agenda.
I
items
up
for
potential
agenda
hearing
and
I
do
want
to
speak
to
my
reasons
for
withdrawing
it.
I.
R
R
Thank
you,
yeah
III,
I
really
would
just
like
to
address
the
council
members
and
the
public
eye
I
feel
like
we
have
benefited
from
the
opportunity
to
entertain
this
ordinance,
so
I
think
each
one
of
you
for
agreeing
to.
Let
me
bring
it
forward
in
its
current
format:
I
specially
thank
councilmember
secant.
R
Who
was
the
the
idea
author
of
how
we
could
have
an
ordinance
like
this
that
whose
intention
was
to
create
a
set
of
interim
standards
that
would
guide
our
stormwater
engineering
department
between
the
time
that
we
would
have
passed
it
and
the
opportunity
to
adopt
our
more
permanent
set
of
stormwater
management
regulations
that
are
gonna
go
into
the
new
manual
that
we
expect
to
adopt.
This
fall
I.
R
As
as
the
stormwater
manual
writing
committee,
does
their
work
I
feel
like
the
letter
that
came
from
the
chamber
was,
in
all
due
respect,
long
on
protest
and
pretty
short
on
concrete
suggestions
for
for
informing
this
set
of
interim
standards
or
any
other
design
details
that
we're
going
to
fully
expect
and
engage
in
in
our
in
our
manual
as
we
review
it
for
adoption.
This
fall
so
I
do
hope
that
we're
learning
from
that
experience
that
we're
gonna
be
able
to
get
better
at
that
kind
of
giving
tape.
R
I
think
the
reason
that
I
can
be
very
peaceful
about
withdrawing
this
ordinance,
because
I
still
feel
as
strongly
as
I
did
when
I
tried
to
put
the
moratorium
in
place
and
then
moved
on
to
this
more
positive
way
of
dealing
with
the
the
risky
designs
that
some
of
our
developer
friends
are
putting
in
front
of
our
stormwater
engineers.
The
reason
I
can
be
peaceful
about
withdrawing.
This
is
two
things.
R
First
of
all,
I
think
that
the
stormwater
has
just
called
the
writing
committee
that
is
currently
operating
under
the
leadership
of
our
engineer,
Kinsey
Holton
and
at
the
mayor's
invitation.
Two
council
members
and
others
is
a
very
robust
and
dedicated
group,
and
they
are
drilling
down.
I
recommend
that
you
look
at
their
suggested
table
of
contents
for
the
manual
it's
as
thorough
and
as
specific
as
we
could
possibly
want
for
our
developer
community
to
adhere
to,
as
as
they
will
have
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
This
fall.
R
The
other
reason
that
I
am
very
peaceful
about
with
buying
this
ordinance
right
now
is
that
in
the
process
of
understanding
what
we
really
do
need
in
terms
of
the
kind
of
protection
measures
to
assure
our
citizens
that
they
are
not
living
in
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
of
a
new
development.
That's
going
to
continue
to
pour
water
into
their
streets
or
into
their
own
yards.
We
have.
R
We
have
looked
thoroughly
at
the
current
set
of
of
stormwater
manual
regulations
that
are
currently
being
administered
by
the
stormwater
department,
and
those
regulations
are
actually
have
been
a
little
under
under
say
under
and
forced
I'm.
Sorry,
if
that's
not
a
good
phrase,
but
we
have
not
been
enforcing
the
fullness
of
our
existing
regulations
and
I.
Think
that
is
starting
to
happen
now,
with
the
mayor's
encouragement
of
the
stormwater
and
engineers
who
do
all
the
review
during
the
technical
review
process
and
with
our
new
director
who's
about
to
take
his
role
on
on
Monday.
R
So
we're
starting
to
put
those
the
full
extent
of
our
regulations
into
effect
over
discussions
that
that
the
engineer
and
his
some
consultants
have
been
engaging
with
some
of
the
projects
that
are
currently
going
through
TRC
stormwater
design
review
and
we're
gonna
see
results
that
will
show
us
some
redesigns
and
some
use
of
more
natural
watershed,
focused
drainage
and
green
infrastructure
solutions.
So
I
think
that
we're
going
to
be
seeing
the
fruit
of
our
due
diligence
and
our
own
sense
of
responsibility
that
we
want
to
do
protective
development
in
our
city.
R
From
this
this
time
forward.
We
know
that
we've
got
lands
right
now
that
are
being
proposed
for
redevelopment
or
new
development
that
are
in
more
vulnerable
areas
of
our
city.
I
mean,
let's
face
it.
Most
of
the
buildable
area
was
annexed
and
built
out
in
terms
of
the
Burrow
locations
in
the
70s
80s
and
90s
and
early
2000s,
so
we're
now
looking
at
places
that
need
to
have
a
different
set
of
treatments
in
the
way
that
we
protect
the
areas
that
are
contiguous
and
in
the
watershed
areas
that
we
haven't
really
been
looking
at
holistically.
R
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
that
opportunity.
I've
learned
a
lot.
I
know
that
many
of
you
have
really
you
know
been
thinking
about
these
things
in
ways
that
we're
all
going
to
have
to
get
serious
to
do
in
the
coming
weeks
and
months,
and
so
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
I'm
sorry
to
go
on
so
long,
but
I
think
it's
very
important.
I
would
also
encourage
anyone.
Who's
got
another
ordinance.
R
That's
been
dying
on
the
vine
under
first
reading
that
maybe
we
all
get
serious
about
withdrawing
some
of
the
things
that
are
clogging
up
our
printers
and
our
and
our
citizens
inboxes
when
they
try
to
draw
down
an
agenda
that
we
only
have
two
or
three
items
where
we
actually
have
four
action.
So
I
would
encourage
all
of
us
to
take
that
kind
of
responsibility
as
well.
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
any.
B
Further
discussion,
all
in
favor
to
withdraw
L
to
say,
aye
and
he
opposed
nay,
now
I
believe
we'll
entertain
a
motion
to
go
into
executive
session
to
discuss,
may
I
show
the
whole
one
thing
to
discuss
both
an
annexation
matter,
a
legal
reference,
an
annexation
matter
and
also
an
ordinance
that's
been
proposed.
At
my.
G
Y
B
Could
I
ask
y'all
just
wait
one
second,
and
we
got
some
space
around.
Let's
do
the
first
one
across
the
hall
and
then
we'll
come
back
and
finish
the
second
one.
Maybe
everybody
welcome
there
could
I
recognize,
miss
miss
miss
Willie,
Kelsie
Willie
is
with
us
here.
The
night
and
I
know
we're
going
to
act
on
this
matter
later
after
we
resolve
the
budget,
but
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
you
I'm,
not
a
lawyer,
but
I
believe
her
to
be
a
fine
attorney.
I
know
it
would
be
good
person.
B
B
B
Q
F
F
B
Will
procure
a
professional
third-party
review
of
the
drainage
for
Middleburg?
Is
a
Middleburg
room,
rental,
bara,
Middleborough
condominiums
and
allow
legal
counsel
to
instruct
the
scope
of
work?
Let's
go
for
okay,
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
you
pose
the
eyes.
Have
it
now
I'd
like
to
reconvene
our
Ways
and
Means
Committee
meeting
chairman
white.