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City of Charleston Council Meeting - October 24, 2017
C
B
Thank
you,
I
do
want
to
let
everyone
know
that
if
there
was
a
very
unlikely
event
that
we
needed
to
evacuate
the
building,
that
these
are
our
two
main
exit
doors
from
here
and
there's
one
over
to
my
room
to
the
to
the
room
to
the
right.
Do
not
use
the
elevator.
If
that
were
to
occur,
please
use
the
stairs
going
down
and
then
we
would
all
commonly
exit
the
singular
stairway
out
the
front
door.
B
I
would
like
to
propose
the
council
that
we
amend
the
agenda
and
we
add
one
item
and
that's
to
ask
Council
to
consider
extending
the
temporary
moratorium
on
James
Island.
It's
set
to
run
out
next
month
and
the
Planning
Commission
deferred
the
matter
one
meeting,
and
so
it
got
delayed,
and
so,
unless
we
extend
the
moratorium,
you
know
it'll
end
before
the
matter
comes
back
to
council.
So
I'd
like
to
propose
that
we
extend
the
temporary
moratorium
on
James
Island
until
December
31st
of
this
year.
So
I'll
need
a.
D
B
To
amend
the
agenda,
we
have
a
motion
to
amend
the
agenda,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes
habit.
And
now
a
council
doesn't
have
a
you
know,
doesn't
want
to
put
it
off
till
later.
In
the
meeting
we
could
just
go
ahead
and
vote
on
it
now
to
extend
the
moratorium
until
December,
31st
council
member
seeking
the.
B
B
E
Reason
why
I
bring
this
up
mirror
is
I.
Don't
think
that
the
overlay
district
is
the
be
all
in
all
that
scroll.
When
we
went
forward,
we
talked
about
a
comprehensive
approach
to
look
at
the
drainage
to
look
at
traffic
and
transportation,
so
for
me,
I'm
sure
that
this
body
will
pass
the
overlay
overwhelmingly,
but
there's
still
some
issues
on
the
island
that
we'll
need
to
address
and
that's
why
I
don't
want
the
December
31st
date
to
end
it,
but
if
we
stupid,
we
can
still
go
forward
after
the
31st.
That's
fine
with
me!
B
B
The
federal
share
will
be
five
million,
eight
thirty
nine
to
eighty
six,
so
we
will
be
required
to
put
up
a
25%
match
from
the
city,
and
so
we'll
have
to
bring
this
back
to
Ways
and
Means
at
a
future
meeting.
But
I
will
note
that
there's
a
schedule
of
the
approval-
it's
done
really
over
a
year's
time.
So
we'll
be,
you
know,
approving
a
various
sums
over
the
next
year,
so
I
want
to
particularly
thank
councilmember
regal,
whose
district
this
is
in
for
supporting
this
effort.
B
From
the
very
beginning,
the
staff
put
together
this
application
over
two
years
ago.
The
really
amazing
help
of
our
federal
partners
being
Senator,
Scott
and
and
going
them
and
representative
Sanford
and
then
finally,
on
a
visit
just
about
three
weeks
ago,
that
myself
and
staff
went
up
to
visit
governor,
McMaster
and
and
shared
with
him.
B
The
plight
of
this
grant
application
and
how
it
had
not
been
approved
yet
and
so
I
believe
he
helped
kind
of
with
everybody
been
working
on
it
for
a
long
time,
but
I
think
he
kind
of
helped
us
to
push
it
over
the
finish
line,
and
so
anyway,
we're
very
pleased
that
it's
been
approved
after
a
couple
of
years
and
excited
that
we
can
move
forward
with
it.
Councilmember
regal,
Thank.
F
F
You
know
this
persistent
flooding
over
the
last
three
or
four
years
has
become
a
real
problem
and,
thanks
to
the
mayor,
we
met
with
Mark
Sanford,
senator
sandy
Singh
sin,
saying
I'm,
sorry
and
representative
Lynn
Bennett
in
Paul
canaras
kitchen,
which
had
been
flooded
and
damaged.
You
all
saw
the
papers,
wonderful,
poster,
courier's
pictures,
so
I
can't
think
everyone
involved
I,
don't
want
to
name
everybody
miss
somebody,
but
what
a
great
great
great
effort
I
thank
everyone
of
all
Thank
You.
Mr.
mayor.
G
B
H
That
yes,
actually
got
four
other
properties
on
this
grant
and
then
there's
a
second
grant
that
we've
also
applied
for
that
was
approved
by
the
state.
So
I
expect
it
to
come
through
the
process
too,
and
it's
a
number
of
other
single-family
homes
and
some
of
them
in
areas
off
of
in
Forest,
Acres,
so
I
know.
G
F
F
The
state
will
make
up
the
remaining
25%,
so
our
goal
and
hope,
gentlemen
and
ladies,
is
that
we'll
make
these
people
home
and,
and
that
plan
should
happen.
In
addition,
we
want
to
entertain
at
some
point
those
homes
are
located
and
possibly
could
center
that
a
park
or
a
green
space,
or
something
like
that
that
we
can
give
back
to
the
community
and
utilize
that
way,
but
I
just
want
to
explain
what
the
numbers
meant.
Mr.
mayor,
thank
you,
sir.
So.
B
I
had
a
visit
at
mayor's
night
in
from
one
of
the
families
just
this
past
month
and
they
had
bought
the
house,
their
house
and
in
early
2000,
two
or
three
of
four
hundred
and
fifty
eight
thousand
dollars,
and
so
far
the
federal
government
has
paid
over
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
repairs
on
a
hundred
and
fifty
eight
thousand
dollar
home.
So
duh.
B
It
just
makes
all
the
sense
in
the
world
to
I
know
it
seems
kind
of
extreme
as
a
mitigation
to
actually
buy
somebody's
property.
But
that's
the
the
level
of
repairs
that
were
going
on
on
these
homes
again
and
again,
and
our
requirement
will
be
that
the
structures
be
removed,
that
they
be
demolished
and
no
replacement
homes
ever
go
on
the
property.
So
it
can
become
a
park.
B
It
could
become
an
additional
retention
area
for
flooding
for
drainage
and
particularly
there,
at
which
point
where
you've
got
a
pretty
good
size
of
sizeable
piece
of
real
estate.
It
could
become
a
significant
drainage,
a
retention
area
to
help
with
the
flooding
problem
going
forward.
So
I
view
it
as
a
good
investment
all
right,
so
we
have
councilmember
Williams.
I
B
We're
good,
so
we
have
public
hearings
this
evening
and
our
first
public
hearing
is
just
to
receive
input
from
the
public.
If
you
would
like
regarding
next
year's
2018
City
Charlton
budget,
would
anyone
like
to
be
heard
about
our
budget
for
next
year?
Yes,
sir,
please
step
forward
state
your
name
and
address.
J
J
Now
they
called
it
the
battery
and
they
say
we
are
below
sea
level
and
when
you
see
something
you
see
with
your
eyes
and
this
city
is
not
level
as
councilman
Lewis
been
saying
for
over
the
years,
all
these
different
offices
should
be
in
one
building
and
we
would
have
to
keep
on
spending
the
money
back.
You're
spending
we're
down
here
in
this
area
that
called
the
battery
and
I.
Tell
you
like
this.
You
all
are
blind.
J
J
These
actions
show
that
Charleston
is
to
develop
the
United
State
of
America
and
deeds
and
spirit.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
the
secession
is
still
being
conducted
by
the
corruptness
of
the
city
and
to
give
you
further
support
of
what
I'm
saying
is
that
near
Raleigh,
the
former
mayor?
After
leaving
this
office
of
merit
or
irresponsibility,
he
went
back
to
his
alma
mater
the
city
law,
a
place
where
he
joined
divine
Devine
Shama,
the
former
president
of
Standard
&
Poor's,
who
charge
America
and
2:11,
was
being
below
the
triple
a
standard.
J
In
other
words,
he
was
saying
that
America
credit
was
below
world
standard
while
at
the
same
time,
Murali
disassociated,
Charleston
credit
rating
from
America's
America.
By
saying
that
Charleston
had
triple-a
credit
rating.
Now
these
two
people
are
working
side
by
side
at
the
Citadel,
a
place
that
shot
the
first
shot.
That
started
the
Civil
War,
as
I
said.
My
mission
is
to
bring
Charleston
back
into
the
United
State
of
America
so
that
they
can
recognize
Philadelphia
as
being
the
number
one
city
of
America
and
I
say
they
call
this
area.
J
The
battery
and
I
must
say.
The
leadership
of
this
city
is
blind
as
a
bat.
Also,
the
city
is
below
sea
level.
They
do
not
deal
on
a
sober,
a
level
manner.
They
are
unbalanced
and
when
you
are
blind,
you
are
capable
of
doing
fully
thing.
That
is
why
they
are
building
on
Farley
Road
near
windermere
and
clothing.
This
definition
for
the
saloon
and
therefore
a
fortress,
protect,
protecting,
are
dominating
the
city.
J
I
am
eating
place
all
of
the
Salvation
Army,
since
we
have
a
police
department
who
supposed
to
be
what's
supposed
to
be,
who
supposed
to
be
doing
it
good
for
text?
Texting,
that's
why?
Why
should
we
have
Citadel
in
the
city
of
Charleston,
I
didn't
know
yet,
but
two
minutes
when
you're
talking
and
public
hearing
but
I
know
y'all
change
the
rule
with
me.
J
J
B
K
Counsel,
my
name
is
Alissa
Leto
and
I'm
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
Charleston
pro
bono,
legal
services,
I'm
the
director
and
as
a
nonprofit
that
provides
free,
civil
legal
aid
to
the
city
of
Charleston
were
actually
located
just
down
the
street
on
Church
Street,
we
submitted
a
grant
request
in
August
for
your
review
and
consideration
sensitive
to
time
restraints
and
tonight's
agenda.
I
will
keep
my
remarks
brief.
Charleston
pro
bono
is
a
local
nonprofit,
that's
been
serving
the
city
of
Charleston
residents
since
2004
our
predecessor,
the
neighborhood
legal
assistance
program,
started
way
back
in
1967.
K
In
fact,
this
year
2017
marks
the
50th
anniversary
of
pro
bono,
civil
legal
aid
in
Charleston,
a
milestone
which
is
definitely
worth
celebrating
and
one
that
earlier
this
summer,
the
mayor
blessed
our
organization.
With
the
proclamation
over
the
years
we've
been
fortunate
enough
to
receive
funding
from
the
city
of
Charleston.
We
have
proven
to
be
good
stewards
of
these
funds.
You
know
sitting
here
hearing
about
all
these
funds
and
millions
of
dollars
and
$250,000
I'm
before
you
tonight,
urging
you
to
consider
my
request
for
eighty
seven
hundred
dollars
just
to
keep
things
in
perspective.
What.
K
So
over
the
years
we
have
been
fortunate
to
receive
such
funding
from
the
city
of
Charleston.
In
fact,
the
grant
funding
provided
by
the
city
of
Charleston
for
the
current
grant
year
of
2017
provided
the
necessary
seed
money
for
our
organization
to
create
a
full-time
attorney
position
dedicated
to
housing,
related
legal
issues.
We
listened
to
our
community,
we
heard
the
need
and
we
are
addressing
their
concerns.
This
year
we
are
seeking
funding
to
host
educational
outreach
clinics
at
various
nonprofits
and
community
sites
throughout
the
city
of
Charleston.
K
These
outreach
initiatives
hosted
by
pro
bono,
with
the
assistance
of
volunteer
private
bar
attorneys,
will
provide
educational
materials
and
programs
to
educate
the
city's
low-income
residents
about
their
legal
options.
Example,
topics
will
include
landlord
tenant
law,
family
law
to
include
child
support
and
visitation
estate
planning
and
kinship
caregivers.
K
The
demand
for
no-cost
or
low-cost
legal
aid
exceeds
current
available
services
offered
within
the
city
of
Charleston.
We
know
this
is
a
problem.
Some
of
the
councilmembers
are
attorneys
themselves
because
we
are
hearing
it
from
the
judiciary
and
court
personnel
they're
telling
us
there
is
a
market
increase
of
pro
se,
those
representing
themselves
in
court,
but
when
adequately
prepared
such
litigants
are
able
to
effectively
represent
themselves
throughout
the
court
process.
K
If
properly
educated
on
respective
rights
and
responsibilities,
our
community
is
in
a
much
better
position
to
level
the
playing
fields
advocate
for
themselves
and
fight
injustice,
South
Carolina
ranks
50
out
of
50,
that's
last
place
for
civil
legal
aid
and
for
every
10,000
living
in
poverty.
Our
state
has
less
than
one
attorney
providing
free
civil
legal
services.
So
what's
our
plan,
we
will
host
25
clinics
from
January
to
December
of
2018
with
nearly
400
anticipated
beneficiaries.
We
will
address
two
critical
community
needs.
Thank.
B
K
Being
educated
on
rights
and
responsibilities
into
learning
how
to
represent
yourself
in
court,
the
numbers
don't
lie.
Our
community
cannot
meet
the
current
need.
There
is
such
a
thing
as
the
justice,
and
these
outreach
programs
will
go
a
long
way
in
bridging
that
gap,
but
we
need
your
help
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
attention.
Thank.
M
N
My
name
is
Rosalyn
fields
and
my
address
is
5445
Langston
park,
Drive
north
charleston,
south
carolina
on
behalf
of
the
board
of
directors
of
youth
empowerment
services
and
those
that
we
serve
I.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
share
with
you
this
evening.
I
am
the
founder
and
executive
director
of
youth
empowerment
services,
better
known
as
yes,
which
is
a
nonprofit
organization
that
serves
the
tri-county
area.
N
I
was
born
and
raised
in
downtown
Charleston
and
taught
in
the
local
public
schools,
while
teaching
in
the
public
schools
I
experienced
girls
who
were
falling
through
the
cracks
due
to
at-risk
behaviors
and
a
lack
of
guidance.
Youth
empowerment
services
was
birthed
in
an
effort
to
reach
and
serve
those
girls
who
are
most
at
risk
to
empower
them
with
hope
and
vision.
A
mission
is
to
empower
girls
from
Christian
principles
to
discover
and
embrace
and
appreciate
their
self-worth,
leading
to
a
healthy
and
productive
lifestyle.
As
you
know,
South
Carolina
has
been
named.
N
One
of
the
tops
five
states
in
the
nation
for
domestic
violence,
community
leaders,
educators
and
parents
all
agree
that,
in
order
to
combat
this
and
other
negative
statistics
against
women
in
our
state,
we
have
to
begin
early
to
empower
girls
before
they
reach
adulthood.
This
is
why
yes
does
what
it
does,
and
we
have
been
doing
this
since
1999
reaching
over
6,000
through
our
various
outreach
programs
over
95%
of
our
program.
Participants
complete
high
school.
N
A
major
outreach
for
yes
is
the
annual
Dreamgirls
conference
that
was
designed
specifically
for
at-risk
middle
and
high
school
minority
girls.
This
conference
is
the
only
one
of
its
kind
and
its
magnitude
in
South
Carolina
and
it's
a
catalyst
for
long
term
involvement
with.
Yes,
programs,
yes,
began
sponsoring
the
conference
in
2014
and
it
attracts
over
1006
girls
of
color
parents,
girls
from
group
homes,
pregnancy
centers,
from
across
63
cities
and
towns
across
South
Carolina.
These
attendees
also
bring
revenue
tile
area
when
they
come
in
their
buses
and
they
come
in
their
vans.
N
They
stay
in
our
hotels,
they
go
to
our
restaurants
and
they
visit
our
models.
We
are
empowering
these
girls
each
and
every
year,
and
we
want
this
conference
to
continue.
Yes,
has
receive
enquiries,
as
far
as
from
Bermuda
to
come
to
this
area
for
this
conference.
We're
most
grateful
for
those
of
you
who
are
supporting
this
conference.
Many
of
you
on
council
have
done
so.
N
B
O
Thank
you,
Thank
You,
mayor
members
of
council,
we'll
get
the
display
screen
going
the
particulars
of
this.
As
the
mayor
said,
it's
4:45
Meeting
Street.
It's
a
2.2,
acre
site.
The
request
is
to
rezone
from
general
business
to
mixed-use,
workforce
housing,
of
course.
That
would
include
the
new
provision
for
workforce
housing
that
you
all
approved
a
few
months
ago,
which
is
the
20
percent
minimum
workforce
housing
for
25
years.
We'll
show
you
some
images
of
the
site,
some
information
from
the
comprehensive
plan
in
just
a
second
here.
O
Okay,
this
is
the
site
and
I'm
sure
you
all
are
very
familiar
with
it.
It's
the
former
Piggly
Wiggly
and
bi-lo
store
right
there
on
Meeting
Street
to
the
south.
Is
the
Elan
Midtown
to
the
north?
Is
the
new
career
square
development
under
construction
to
the
west?
Is
the
alley
and
then
the
u-haul
site,
the
aerial
image
here?
O
Another
aerial
image
from
the
South
East
Street
view
here
see
if
a
post
and
courier
project
under
construction
to
the
north
and
then
another
image
from
Spring
Street.
This
is
an
image
from
our
century
five
city
plan
that
shows
that
this
is
in
the
middle
of
an
area
that's
designated
for
urban
core,
which
calls
for
our
densest
type
of
development
in
the
city.
O
The
site
is
also
surrounded
by
other
MU
workforce
housing
zonings,
which
are
the
kind
of
teal
color.
So
this
is
mu
workforce.
This
is
mu
as
well
mu
down
here
and
mu
to
the
north,
so
it's
smack
dab
in
the
middle
of
other
mu
workforce
housing
locations
and
then
this
is
an
image
that
shows
the
heights
that
were
recently
improved
with
the
new
height
district,
which
would
allow
for
five
stories
at
the
front
and
eight
stories
at
the
rear.
O
P
Council
know
that
I
have
spoken
to
the
owner
of
this
particular
property,
and
we
were
in
conversation
back
and
forth
that
this
is
all
in
the
rezoning
of
the
property.
So
we
can
do
the
workforce
mix.
You
use
the
zoning
on
that
particular
property,
and
so
are
the
community
have
heard
about
it
also
because
they
went
down
through
the
planning
is
only
when
they
had.
P
This
approve
so
they're
satisfied
with
it,
and
he
promised
me
that
we
will
get
together
once
the
plan
and
the
plans
come
up
to
see
what
we're
gonna
put
on
that
particular
property
to
make
sure
that
vehicle
working
strictly
with
the
community
and
once
that
happened,
they'll,
be
back
to
planning
and
zoning
I'll
be
coming
back
to
here,
but
I'll
be
working
with
him
to
make
sure
that
we're
gonna
have
things
that
the
community
needs
and
that's
what
he's
working
on
so
I
wouldn't
approval
that
we
can
go
on
and
go
forward
with
this.
Thank.
E
You
know
I
really
applaud
councilman
Mitchell's
effort
on
this
one,
because
we
did
meet
a
couple
of
times
to
get
it
because
I
think
with
this
designation.
It
also
affords
the
opportunity
for
affordable
units
and-
and
there
are
new
rules-
it's
either
fee
and
Lulla
of
our
X
percentage
of
units.
So
I
really
think
it's
a
good
thing
for
the
community,
because
it
will
provide
the
opportunity
for
affordable
units
in
an
area
which
which
really
really
needs
it.
So
I
applaud
councilman
Mitchell's
efforts
on
this
one
Phil.
D
A
brief
comment:
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I
mean
this
is
going
to
be
an
interesting
project
for
all
of
us.
It
goes
forward.
This
is
really
going
to
be
the
test
for
our
mu,
R
nu,
mu
zoning,
it's
a
site
that
could
be
many
things
at
also
by
the
way
for
council
members.
You
see
it
backs
up
to
our
newly
our
soon-to-be
newly
purchased
low
line,
so
large
scale
project
in
the
densest
part
of
the
city
adjacent
to
a
community
and
the
low
line.
D
B
Q
O
P
This
mr.
mayor
and
McCauley
go
I'm
working
with
the
developer.
We
were
planning
on
playing
on
having
housing
there
plus
he's
working
with
various
grocery
stores
and
pharmacies
to
see
what
we
going
to
do
that,
but
the
plan
will
be
coming
back
to
the
plans
only
before
you
know
before
everything
is
finished
and
we'll
be
going
through
the
community,
so
I'll
be
working
with
him
100%
to
make
sure
that
we
get
that
back
in
place.
So
that's
what
we're
working
on
now,
but
the
plan
have
nothing
submitted
yet.
Q
R
Q
B
Thank
You
councilmember
wearing
did
I
see
your
hand
up,
okay,
all
right,
anyone
else.
Well,
let
me
let
me
just
say
that,
given
the
fact
that
we
increase
the
requirements
for
MU
2
to
25%
for
workforce
housing,
that
directly
addresses
you
know
your
point
about
affordability
and
in
the
requirement
also
of
mu2,
is
that
there
be
a
mix
you
sitting
that
right,
mr.
Morgan?
Yes,
so
so
we're
trying
to
protect
that
as
well.
Yeah.
Q
E
Always
been
a
sensitivity
of
mine,
councilman
white,
that
we
don't
use
this
program
to
reconsecrate
the
poor
that
we
use
this
to
provide
opportunities
throughout
the
communities
for
people
who
need
affordable
housing.
So
I'm
in
an
in
total
agreement
with
you
that
if
we
don't
watch
it,
there
is
a
possibility
that
we
could
possibly
reconsecrate
poverty.
So
I'm
there
with
you.
B
B
O
O
M
B
O
And
the
there's
are
pictures
and
the
final
public
hearing
before
you
is
a
sight
that
was
before
you
last
month.
That
was
deferred,
and
this
is
the
deal
tracked
and
it's
a
very
minor
amendment
to
the
dil
tract
to
orient
you
to
the
site
and
I
think
you
all
are
pretty
familiar
with
it.
But
folly.
Road
is
a
little
bit
to
the
east
and
the
Wal
Mart
is
in
this
location
and
then
George
Griffith
Boulevard
cuts
across
the
middle
of
the
dill
tract
over
to
Rivlin
Drive.
O
Over
here,
the
Charleston
Museum
has
property
to
the
west
on
the
Stono
River,
the
First
Baptist
Church
owns
these
properties.
Here,
the
new
church
school
is
going
here
and
athletic
facilities
are
already
in
place.
I'll
show
you
another,
an
image
that
shows
the
city
park
property
to
the
south
and
then
other
residential
properties
not
further
to
the
south
and
to
the
north.
The
request
is
to
amend
the
PUD
woops.
Sorry,
there
we
go,
and
here
it
is
in
the
comprehensive
plan
that
shows
that
the
campus
recommendation
for
that
the
site
oops.
O
Sorry,
the
request
is
to
take
a
five
acre
section
of
the
undeveloped
portion
of
the
property
here
that
First
Baptist
owns
in
this
location
on
George
Griffith
Boulevard,
some
of
which
has
already
has
over
hit
power
lines
across
across
the
front
of
it
and
use
it
for
nonprofit
office.
So,
instead
of
the
low
density
residential,
that's
recommended
in
the
point
in
in
the
PUD,
which
is
all
those
units
are
used
up.
Instead,
this
site,
this
five
acre
site,
could
be
used
for
nonprofit
office.
O
Given
that
the
overall
site
is
backing
up
to
the
the
school
property
and
has
other
residential
in
the
surrounding
area.
We
felt
that
that
was
a
very
compatible
use
with
those
surrounding
uses
and
would
be
appropriate
for
the
site,
and
it
follows
the
recommendations
of
our
comprehensive
plan
and
so
staff
and
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval.
I
should
point
out
that
it
is
a
reduction
in
the
original
request
from
21
acres
for
this
use
to
5
acres.
T
O
T
O
U
U
B
V
U
Name
is
Susan
Milliken
I
live
on
James
Island
76240,
Sumpter
Drive.
This
is
an
item
that
many
of
us
have
been
very
concerned
about
for
a
couple
of
months
now
and
I
appreciate
Christopher
working
with
us
and
answering
our
questions.
This,
of
course,
is
a
portion
of
the
dill
sisters,
parcel
or
tract
very
large
tract,
and
that
has
been
really
controversial
on
James
Island
for
many
decades,
and
this
is
some
of
the
last
beautifully
wooded
land
in
the
dill
sister
property.
It's
my
understanding.
U
The
first
baptist
land
is
40
acres
in
that
district,
so
to
amend,
to
use
to
add
a
non-profit
or
office
in
five
of
those
acres
is
not
something
we're
opposed
to.
But
what
our
concern
is
is
the
way
the
draft
ordinance
before
you
is
drafted,
and
you
know
where
it's
a
matter
of
just
always
feeling
distrustful,
and
so
when
we
first
looked
up
the
tax
map
numbers
for
this
property.
What
we
saw
in
Charleston
County
tax
records
was
a
subdivision,
a
21
acres,
with
a
different
tax
map.
U
Number,
so
you
have
your
40
within
that
low-density
residential
district
and
then
20
looks
to
be
split
off
and
it's
confusing
to
us.
So
five
of
this
21
will
be
for
the
nonprofit
office
use.
This
land
is
beautifully
wooded.
It
has
beautiful,
live
oak,
grand
trees,
the
sprawling
ones
with
moss
you
can
see
in
there.
Yes,
there
are
the
big
powerline,
but
we're
just
so
concerned
about
the
way
this
is
worded
and
in
your
ordinance
before
you.
It
talks
about
and
not-for-profit
office
district
and
what
we
kept
asking
city
staff
was.
U
Why
can
you
not
just
add
the
use
of
nonprofit
office
to
the
list
of
uses
in
the
low-density
residential
district,
but
you
know
just
change
or
modify
that
original
19:6
1996
paid
as
little
as
possible,
so
we
still
just
feel
like
this
is
squishy
and
I
wish
that
your
legal
department
would
look
at
it
close
closer.
Also
I
would
urge
planning
to
create
a
non-profit
office
zoning,
because
this
ordinance
refers
to
general
office
zoning.
So
there's
just
a
lot
of
things
in
here
that
worry
us.
U
I
Marshal
Blaylock
and
from
district
10
in
Charleston
and
I
am
service,
pastor,
first
baptist
church
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
interest
in
in
the
property.
Just
so
you
know
our
whole
idea
on
this
has
been.
We
had
60
acres
there.
We
still
the
church
has
donated
40
acres
to
the
school,
which
is
where
the
high
school
is
being
built
as
part
of
an
agreement
with
the
city
years
ago
to
move
our
high
school
out
of
a
high
density
area,
are
down
here
and
put
it
on
James
Island,
with
more
space
and
more
parking.
I
So
that's
we
set
aside
that.
So
the
reason
why
that
that
division
looked
that
way
is
because
we
separated
out
for
the
school
to
own.
That
and
our
church
foundation
owns
this
property.
There
was
never
an
intention
of
subdividing
it
to
to
build
anything
else.
We've
spent
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
feeding
those
trees,
and
so
we
love
the
trees.
We
think
it's
a
beautiful
place
and
it's
a
serene
environment.
What
better
place
to
have
students
be
able
to
walk
through
that
neighborhood?
We
hope
to
have
a
a
cross-country
track
going
around
through
there.
I
So
the
whole
community
can
use
it
so
we're
we're
totally
sympathetic
with
your
concerns.
This
came
because
one
of
our
church
members
volunteers
for
happy
days-
and
he
said
I'd
like
to
build
an
office
space
for
camp
happy
days
and
we
carved
out
that
five
acres,
because
there
was
concern
if
we
zone
the
whole
21
acres
for
office
space
that
might
create
suspicion
and
I
understand
that
perfectly.
So
we
cut
it
down
just
to
five
to
mitigate
those
concerns
and
I'm
standing
here
before
you
today
saying
it's
just
for
nonprofit
offices
and
happy
days.
I
B
D
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
just
very
briefly.
First
I
want
to
thank
mr.
Blaylock
becoming
never
as
someone's
been
in
so
many
firefights
over
school
than
mr.
Blaylock
I
mean
downtown
over
to
James,
Island
and
I.
Think
all
this
probably
is
consistent
with
everything
that's
going
on
in
James
on
including
us
looking
at
densities,
you
all
having
a
school
there,
but
this
goes
back
to
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
sort
of
gets
under
my
skin
a
little
bit,
and
that
is
the
amendment
of
puds.
D
I
mean
the
whole
idea
of
HUD's
is
they're
supposed
to
sort
of
be
there
in
place
in
perpetuity.
This
is
a
good
amendment,
but
again
when
people
bring
putts
to
us
they're
supposed
to
be
forever
and
again,
this
is
changing
a
little
bit,
but
I
do
think
for
those
of
you
over
on
James
Island
you're,
getting
a
lot
of
good
stuff
going
on
over
there
and
if
you
do
have
a
cross-country
track
over
there.
We'd
all
like
to
come
over
and
take
a
little
run
on
it.
B
W
W
C
I
just
I
guess
I
was
having
some
issue
with
people,
leaving
the
room
not
listening
to
conversation
and
then
maybe
coming
back
and
voting
or
not
voting
I
mean
it
seems
to
be
like
the
minutes
ought
to
be
a
little
bit
more
reflective
of
just
what's
going
on
in
the
meeting.
Just
I
mean
I,
don't
try
to
put
it
they
don't
you.
B
J
We
heard
that
mil
are
Tekken
burg.
Yes,
sir
console
I
put
on
the
deaths
of
you,
consonants
Oh
article
from
the
posting
choreo
that
took
place
in
1991,
where
we
recognized
the
police
department,
and
at
that
time
the
chief
of
the
policeman
was
Rubin
Greenberg.
The
best
food
is
chief,
we
had,
and
he
was
of
the
Jewish
to
community
and
I
came
up
with
the
idea
of
recognizing
the
police
department
and
this
city
for
the
good
work
they
had
done
and
we
had
the
Eastside
DC
working
with
us
community.
J
Yet
I
was
falsely
arrested
and
I'm
angry
I
haven't
been
cleared
or
fed,
yet
my
name
have
been
put
in
the
paper
and
I'm
gonna
be
fighting
y'all
until
the
day
I
die
until
this
thing
gets
great,
because
it's
a
shame
for
what
y'all
did
to
me.
I
brought
one
of
the
wisest
men
on
the
planet
to
this
city
over
16
time,
and
he
gives
a
solution
to
many
of
the
problems
that
y'all
have
right
now.
But
you'll
continue
doing
the
same
thing
and,
like
I
said
earlier,
you
are
blind
as
a
bat.
J
That's
why
I
believe
that
you're
in
the
battery-
and
you
are
below
sea
level
and
I-
don't
mean
the
water
see.
Your
level
of
understanding
is
very
blind.
You
keep
doing
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again
and
you
spec
in
better
result.
It's
a
shame
before
God
now,
I,
don't
know
what
happened
to
my
lens.
J
Somebody
said
he
peed
his
life,
but
he
resigned.
Nobody
know
what
happened
to
him,
but
everybody
know
what
happened
me
and
everybody
know
what
happened.
Councilman,
regal
y'all
put
all
that
ad
in
the
screed
and
rest
that
man
down
here
like
I,
don't
know
what,
in
this
council
me
Council
Chairman,
that
was
ashamed
before
God.
You
are
some
evil
people.
Thank
you.
X
Good
evening
a
couple
little
things-
traffic,
seven
o'clock
this
morning
coming
into
town
and
again
the
17
lights-
were
not
synchrony,
green,
red,
red,
green,
green,
green,
green
red
I.
Don't
know
who
we
got
running
this
thing,
but
they
need
to
be
replaced
next
thing,
I
call
it
the
mental
thing.
Somebody
spent
a
lot
of
money
at
the
end
of
Glenn
McConnell
to
make
two
lanes
turn
left
onto
Beast
Ferry.
X
Now,
let
me
tell
you
the
reason,
for
that
was
because
people
were
going
down
the
right
lane
and
sneaking
in
because
then
morons
are
driving
through.
There
can't
keep
up
a
traffic
as
they're,
probably
playing
with
something
else
other
than
the
steering
wheel,
and
the
real
problem
is
that
you've
got
enough
room
there
to
turn
three
lanes
into
three
lanes
now
why
you
spent
the
money
to
just
redirect
two
lanes.
I'll
never
know,
but
obviously
somebody
has
never
dealt
with
transportation
and
then
we
roll
on
and
then
there's
the
problem
with
being
constantly
accosted.
X
Every
time
a
certain
councilmember
sees
me
because
of
some
of
the
things
are
brought
up
about
not
living
in
the
district
and
I'm
at
point.
Where
it's
bought
bout
time,
maybe
to
start
getting
restraining
order
every
time
I
turn
around
even
last
night.
Somebody
shows
up
behind
me
throws
down
a
driver's
license.
You
need
to
come
to
dinner,
I'm
going,
you
don't
work
there.
So
thank
you.
L
I
am
getting
tired
of
I've
put
in
37
years
of
working
with
our
kids
and
trying
to
do
it
with
respect
and
try
to
give
these
kids
a
chance
to
be
able
to
go
somewhere
in
life,
that's
working
with
them
and
teaching
them
how
to
become
young
men's
and
young.
Ladies,
but
you
know
the
other
day
that
really
heard
of
me,
we
had
a
coach
that
was
ejected
for
a
game
because
we
had
a
referee
that
did
not.
L
L
We
had
several
the
city
staff
that
working
out
there
saw
what's
going
on,
but
there
seemed
to
me
like
this
coach
was
ejected
and
when
he,
when
he
got
injected
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
asked
I
asked
the
official
I
said
what
was
the
reason
for
you
ejecting
this
young
man.
He
told
me
that
I
don't
have
to
answer
you,
but
I
ended
the
day.
All
I'm
saying
right
now
in
the
days
that
I'm
hoping
that
I
sent
a
letter,
I
brought
that
past.
L
You
know
trying
to
you
know
trying
to
give
back,
and
some
of
these
young
man's
I've
worked
faithfully
comes
out
there
after
work.
Just
wanted
to
try
to
you
know,
try
to
give
back
to
the
community
and
I
feel.
Like
you
know,
I
mean
we
got
to
be
able
to.
We
got
to
be
able
to
see
what's
good,
that
we're
working
when
working
our
butt
off,
try
to
help
these
young
men's
and
young.
L
You
know
young,
ladies
to
become
good
citizen
one
day,
but
it
hurt
me
that
today,
when
I
spoke
with
the
director,
she
told
me
she
doesn't
see
anything
wrong,
but
if
you
don't
see
anything
wrong,
we
got
one
game
left
and
that's
tomorrow
night.
This
is
a
young
man
that
you
know
that
he's
a
hard-working
coach.
He
works
hard,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
feel
like
he
was
target.
I
feel
like
I
was
target
for
the
last
past.
L
Y
Y
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Skip
Hoagland
four
years
I've
been
fighting
a
very
public
battle
with
destination
marketing
organizations
called
City
demos,
including
Charleston.
The
basis
for
my
fight
has
been
transparency.
I
hope
you
agree
that
DMOS,
properly
funded
by
accommodation
taxes
should
be
transparent
about
how
they
spend
the
millions
of
dollars
they
receive
each
year
from
local
governments
such
as
yourself.
I.
Can't
imagine
that
any
elected
official
would
disagree
with
that
premise
and
I
hope
you
don't.
Y
Problem
is
Helen
Hill
and
lawyer
David
Jennings
fight
hard
to
avoid
financial
records
disclosure
with
lame
fraudulent
excuses
that
the
Charleston
CBB
is
fully
transparent
to
the
city
and
even
its
members.
This
is
a
lot
it's
time
for
the
charade
to
end
and
here's.
Why
I
want
a
landmark
case
against
the
Hilton
Head
Chamber
CVB,
which
serves
as
a
DMO
for
Hilton
Head?
The
judge
made
it
crystal
clear
because
the
CBB
chamber
receives
public
funding,
it's
a
public
body
under
FOIA
and
must
comply
and
open
its
books.
The
CBB
chamber
refused.
Y
The
court
ruling
appealed
the
case
to
the
Supreme
Court,
which
I
attended
a
couple
of
days
ago.
Helen
Hill
and
David
Jennings
actually
agreed
to
comply
to
FOIA
if
I
sent
them
$2,500.
When
I
asked
for
more
documentation,
they
refused
and
sent
my
check
back.
I
hope
it's
obvious
to
you.
There
can
only
be
one
logical
reason
for
a
refusal
to
be
transparent.
Miss
Hill
has
something
to
hide.
Y
All
taxpayers
have
a
right
to
know
how
Helen
Hill
spends
every
dollar,
perhaps
over
the
years,
exceeding
a
hundred
million
with
zero
oversight
by
this
council
or
anybody
in
this
city.
This
council
must
follow
the
Reagan
principle,
trust
but
verify
with
a
forensic
audit
to
know
what
miss
Hill
has
been
hiding.
It's
your
fiduciary
responsibility
in
the
public
interest
you
serve
to
end
today.
This
council
is
violation
of
procurement
laws.
Y
You
have
no
signed
DMO
contract
you're,
allowing
unconstitutional
use
of
tax
funds,
violating
IRS
Hubert
laws
and
you're,
allowing
unfair
competition
to
the
taxpaying
companies
and
local
media's
in
this
city
by
Helen,
Hill
I.
Just
handed
you,
the
Palm
Beach
CVB
audit
that
resulted
in
prison
for
one
point:
six
million
dollars
in
embezzlement,
also
articles
on
the
FBI
raid
on
the
Berkeley
County
South,
Carolina
DMO,
and
the
school
CFO
found
guilty
of
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
theft.
Y
A
Y
Z
Charles
Hayward
James,
Island,
Council
woman's
Kathleen
Wilson
district
just
want
to
stand
before
you
momentarily
to
remind
you
of
maybe
keep
before
us
the
the
police
audit.
When
we
last
met,
we
were
really
looking
forward
to
the
Public
Safety
Committee
meeting
and
we
wanted
that
to
take
place
before
this
meeting
so
that
you
and
engage
them,
and
the
community
will
be
clear
about
where
we
are.
That
meeting
has
not
taken
place
yet.
Z
Z
Council,
council,
men,
council,
woman,
the
two
organizations
and
questions
that
we
are
conversating
still
do
not
yet
have
a
clear
scope
on
the
costs
of
the
audit,
because
there
still
work
on
being
clear
about
the
scope
of
the
audit,
and
so
we
want
to
encourage
this
counsel.
You
mr.
Mia,
to
be
diligent
and
to
be
ever
so
determined
that
the
fiscal
resources
I
just
mentioned
even
by
previous
spokeperson,
that
the
that
this
effort
gets
underway.
Z
R
AA
Mayor
and
councilmembers,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Danny
Reed
and
I'm.
The
minister
of
the
Unitarian
Church
in
mr.
C
Kings
district
I
appreciate
the
time
before
you
tonight,
I'm
also
an
active
member
of
the
Charleston
area
of
Justice
ministry
and
those
of
us
in
leadership.
Roles
are
obligated
to
do
diligence
to
our
member
congregations,
and
it
is
in
that
spirit
that
I
come
before
you
tonight.
AA
A
few
weeks
ago,
kaija
met
with
Novak
and
RTI
and
have
since,
given
them
and
this
council
a
scope
of
work,
we
are
meeting
with
Novak
next
week
to
further
discuss
the
scope
of
work,
but
this
process
has
been
entirely
backward.
Never
before
has
this
council
hired
someone
without
first
giving
them
a
clear
scope
of
work
of
what
they'll
be
asked
to
do
and
never
before
has
a
contractor
been
hired
to
do
a
job
they've
never
done
before.
We
must
continue
to
ask
why
corners
are
being
cut
to
address
racial
bias.
AA
AB
AB
May
take
number
nine
council
members
I
was
saying
this
for
the
last
past
15
years
that
see
y'all
got
to
realize
when
I
come
down
us
it
more
than
just
coaching.
Alright,
we
become
the
be
these
young
man's
young
lady's.
Father
know
we
become
the
big
people
that
take
and
lean
and
depend
on
because
they
have
nobody
else
to
go
and
talk
to
just
Sunday.
AB
AB
Forty
someone
years
with
us,
we
don't
pay
our
death
to
the
city,
so
why
we
can't
you
have
to
keep
going
to
the
same
thing:
I,
don't
know
and
probably
ain't
for
us
to
know,
but
it's
up
to
you
all
who
reelected
as
our
voice,
we
elected
the
mayor
and
we're
all
council
members
said
ninny
to
be
our
voice.
This
is
our
city.
We
choose
y'all
to
be
the
people
to
be
the
man's
and
woman
and
speak
up
for
us,
so
we
should
not
be
running
down
here
constantly
every
meeting.
AB
AB
These
are
our
kids.
This
is
our
community
all
right
reelection,
coming
up
against
some,
you
run
for
reelection
and
next
to
you,
somebody
could
be
run
for
reelection
again,
our
max
in
your
layers,
elected
official
as
public
service,
just
air
forth,
and
do
what
we
actually
do
of
not
know.
Just
pack
up,
mister
I
leave,
I'm,
sick
and
tired
of
it.
I
born
a
raisin
of
City
child
need.
AB
Nobody
bring
me
him
and
I'm
tired
of
being
hurt
and
tired
of
going
to
freedom
and
bearing
our
young
people,
I'm,
sick
and
tired
of
it,
calling
constant
much
you
to
and
doing
o'clock
in
the
night
time,
because
another
child
going
to
sir
going
to
stop
when
these
people
leave
at
4
5
o'clock
and
even
in
time
dig
on
all
right.
We
got
to
deal
with
this.
AB
R
AB
AC
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
this
evening.
My
name
is
Joan
Hazleton
and
I
live
at
3,
Limehouse,
Street
and
I'm
here
to
ask
the
council
members
to
defer
a
vote
on
number
4
for
the
K
bills
under
the
second
reading.
This
is
addressing
the
residential
parking
for
two
reasons.
One
I
believe
the
ordinance
is
confusing
and
contradictory
and
has
an
unintended
consequences
that
are
very
negative
for
residents
and
taxpayers
and,
more
importantly,
this
amended
ordinance
was
not
attached
to
the
agenda.
AC
B
A
If
I've
talked
to
legal
about
this
is
true
that
the
item-
the
paper
item
was
not
on
the
agenda.
It
was
inadvertently
left
out
of
the
agenda,
but
everything
was
advertised
and
the
line
item
indicated
that
it
was
going
to
be
amended.
It
was
amended
on
the
floor
of
Council.
You
guys
amended
it
last
meeting.
So
that's
the
true
story.
It
was
not.
The
paper
document
was
not
on
the
agenda.
The
line
item
was
on
the
agenda
and
all
of
the
requirements
were
met.
A
P
B
B
S
My
name
is
Lindsay
Hamrick
and
I
live
on
James
Island
I
just
wanted
to
bring
something
up
that
is
coming
up
in
the
paper
tomorrow
that
I'm
really
concerned
about
in
a
lot
of
James
Islanders
they're
concerned
about
and
I
Drive
to
some
notes.
Miss
payment,
miss
Mae
bank,
so
hopefully,
I
won't
run
over,
but
I
want
to
address.
The
recent
accusation
that
saved
James
Allen
is
a
special
interest
group
I'm,
a
member
of
that
group.
S
A
couple
of
elected
officials
tomorrow
or
quotas,
saying
something
like
James
Allen
residents
who
don't
live
in
the
city
shouldn't
try
to
influence
city
elections.
Not
only
do
I.
Think
that's
unfair.
But
frankly
it's
offensive,
say:
James
Allen
is
made
up
of
a
large
group
of
us
who
are
concerned
about
the
quality
of
life
and
livability
young
James
Island
period.
I
mean
if
that's
a
special
interest
and
I
would
hope
that
it
would
be
one
that
the
mayor
and
the
city
share.
S
S
The
decisions
made
by
this
body
impact
the
lives
of
all
james
islanders,
not
just
those
in
the
city
when
I
bought
my
home
seven
years
ago.
I
had
no
idea
that
the
color
of
my
garbage
can
would
determine
where
my
voice
could
be
heard.
2/3
of
James,
Allen
population
and
land
is
in
the
city,
I'm
a
realtor
I've
clients
all
over
James
Allen,
the
city
and
the
county.
My
clients
share
a
lot
of
the
same
concerns
that
we
st.
James
Island.
S
Have
we
want
to
be
able
to
create
safely
cross,
maybe
in
KY
way
to
the
farmers
market,
but
the
inadequate
cross,
walking
traffic.
The
signal
by
the
city
I,
don't
150
apartments
built
on
Central
Road
at
an
intersection
that
I
use
daily
I
want
to
cohesive,
coordinating
planning,
effort
for
James
Allen,
involving
all
four
municipalities
on
the
island.
I'm
not
allowed
to
ask
for
the
city
for
those
things
just
because
I
live
in
the
town.
S
B
P
B
We
already
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
report
is
any
further
discussion
or
report.
Mr.
chairman,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
now
we'll
go
back
to
petitions
and
communications.
Thank
you
very
much.
The
first
is
a
request
by
councilmember,
Gregory
and
Wilson
to
have
a
discussion
regarding
a
hundred
million
dollar
drainage
funding
strategy,
councilmember,
Gregory
or
Wilson,
who
would
like
to
leave.
E
We
know
that
raising
a
hundred
million
dollars
would
require
us
to
identify
the
revenues
in
order
to
support
million
dollars
and
Kathleen
and
I,
and
some
advice
from
other
colleagues
have
come
up
with
a
proposal
whereby
we
think,
through
bold
leadership,
we
can
achieve
this
in
order
to
support
a
hundred
million
dollars.
We
have
to
identify
about
eight
point:
1
million
dollars
in
revenue
in
order
to
support
it.
The
question
is:
where
do
you
get
that
revenue?
E
E
We
also
know
that
we
have
approximately
around
32
million
dollars
in
our
stormwater
funds,
in
addition
to
what
we
may
have
set
aside
and
a
tax
and
H
tags.
So
in
order
for
us
to
achieve
the
8
million
8.1
million
revenue,
we
think
that
we
should
start
talking
about
increase
in
millage.
Currently
by
4
mil,
we
should
increase
the
stormwater
fee,
which
has
not
been
increased
in
11
years.
E
We
also
think
that
we
should
approach
the
state
to
increase
the
a
tax
by
one
percent,
the
eight
tax
by
one
percent
and,
of
course,
something
that
we
all
have
been
talking
about.
Well,
not
we
all,
but
I've,
been
talking
about
and
that's
increasing,
not
increasing,
but
placing
a
head
tax,
our
head
fee
on
all
cruise
ship
passengers.
E
E
Now
we're
not
talking
about
and
I
think
it
was
councilmember
Williams
wanted
to
know
whether
or
not
we
were
talking
about
funding
any
specific
projects
at
this
time.
We're
not
we're
just
trying
to
come
up
with
a
strategy
whereby
we
can
address
some
of
the
flooding
problems
that
have
plagued
many
of
our
communities,
and
some
of
those
problems
are
just
simply
taking
care
of
the
ditches.
E
There
is
no
excuse
for
anybody's
home
to
be
flooded
because
the
ditches
aren't
maintained,
there's
not
repairs
done
to
the
ditches
and
in
some
cases
we
need
to
increase
the
size
of
the
piping
to
make
it
show
that
we
have
the
proper
down
flow
flow.
Those
kinds
of
projects
will
not
cost
us
the
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
that
many
of
the
projects
on
the
peninsula
will
cost
us.
E
Those
are
things
that
we
hope
if
we
move
forward
with
this
strategy,
that
we'd
be
able
to
deal
with
some
of
the
problems
on
John's,
Island,
West,
Ashley
and,
of
course,
James
Island,
which
it
just
simply
fixes
to
the
ditches.
We
also
think
that
it's
possible
that
if
this
would
go
pretty
far
to
helping
with
the
seawall
that
we
need
on
the
battery,
we
know
also
that
staff
is
involved
and
trying
to
get
grants
grants
from
federal
agencies.
E
In
fact,
we
just
heard
of
one
recently
from
FEMA,
which
is
going
to
assist
us,
that
there
are
a
number
of
other
federal
grants.
Of
course,
our
public
service
director
is
aware
of
them
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
that
list.
That
would
help
us
along,
but
we're
talking
about
trying
to
identify
revenues
so
that
we
can
establish
a
revenue
bond
to
raise
as
much
as
a
hundred
million
dollars
to
be
available
for
drainage
in
the
city.
We
also
know
that
some
of
what
we're
talking
about
is
pretty
obvious.
E
E
We've
got
the
600
million,
that's
going
to
come
in
from
the
half
cent
sales
tax.
So
there
are
a
number
of
resources,
potential
sources
where
we
may
be
able
to
get
dollars,
but
we
need
to
get
at
least
eight
million
dollars
in
revenue
in
order
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
a
hundred
million
dollar
bond.
It's
open
for
discussion.
Folks
I
may
not
be
able
to
answer
all
the
questions,
but
we
have
not
had
a
rate
increase
in
11
years
with
regard
to
our
water
and
sewer.
T
Is
somebody
has
to
stand
up
and
at
least
give
the
first
draft
of
and
and
quantify
some
of
these
sources
that
we've
talked
about
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
over
the
years,
regardless
of
what
you
think
about
cruise
ships
and
those
related
matters?
We
have
talked
from
time
to
time
about
ahead
tax,
and
it's
not
one
of
those
things
that
are
instituted
without
a
from
pot
of
money
in
which
to
fund.
This
may
be
the
perfect
allocation
for
something
like
that.
C
Just
going
to
talk
about
a
couple
of
the
issues
you
you
mentioned
number
one
I
guess
it
was
two
years
ago,
maybe
three,
that
we
increase
the
stormwater
millage
by
two
mils.
We
went
from
two
to
four
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
over
the
years
that
this
city
does
and
that
we
don't
get
credit
for
it,
but
we
do
it
and
that's
the
lost
money,
the
Local
Option
Sales
Tax,
and
what
we
do
that
none
of
the
other
cities
around
here
that
we
do
know
that
they
don't
do
it
the
same
way.
C
State
law
requires
that
60%
of
that
money
go
to
reduce
property
taxes,
the
other
40%
can
go
into
general
revenue
of
your
general
fund.
The
city
of
Charleston
has
always
taken
100%
of
that
local
option
sales
tax
and
put
it
into
tax
reduction.
So
when
we
raised
the
mills
by
two
mills
and
a
mill
is
about
a
million
dollars
that
it
brings
anything
when
we
did
that
that
two
mill
tax
increase
within
two
years
was
eliminated
by
the
increase
of
the
Local
Option
Sales
Tax.
So
my
point
is
that
we
could
raise
that
thing.
C
Two
or
four
Mills,
and
with
the
growth
of
our
city
and
sales
tax,
the
taxpayers
are
really
getting
a
break,
and
so
it
makes
us
go
to
the
taxpayers
and
explain
what
we're
doing
with
their
money.
But
that's
one
thing.
The
other
thing
is
this:
you
mentioned
11
years
on
the
stormwater,
the
usage
fee
and
and
what
what
that
does
is
that
makes
all
of
our
not-for-profits
that
are
in
this
city.
C
They
are
some
of
that
cost,
medical,
univeristy
rope
or
college
senator
all
of
those
not-for-profits
that
are
out
there
using
our
facilities
and
some
of
raising
a
lot
of
Cana,
but
can't
get
to
work,
that's
something
that
they
pay
and,
and
so
they
don't
pay
property
taxes,
but
they
do
pay
that.
So
again,
those
folks
have
a
break
over
here.
So
it
may
be
time
for
them
to
step
up
a
little
bit.
So
I
I
encourage
you
to
look
at
that.
Local
Option,
Sales
Tax.
C
Exactly
right,
you
didn't
go
completely
where
I
would
have
gone.
There's
no
reason
in
a
city
for
a
house
to
be
flooded
because
the
pipe
is
under
sized
or
the
ditches
not
maintained
it's
both,
and
so
that's
where
this
money
needs
to
go
and
if
we're
serious
about
drainage
will
do
something
bad
Thanks.
G
Thank
You
mr.
Mia
and
I
think
council
members,
Gregory
and
Wilson
for
bringing
this
up,
but
obviously
we're
all
in
this
together
and
we've
had
some
discussions.
Mr.
mayor
on
this
and
in
you-
and
we
and
all
of
us
will
need
help
with
this
because
number
one
to
identify
the
debt
service
on
that
I
think
is
about
5.7
million.
The
eight
point:
one
is
the
thirty
to
forty
percent
overage:
okay,
drainage
bonds,
the
coverage
ratio.
G
G
Well
get
a
comprehensive
drainage
solution
that
accumulate
the
payment
on
a
hundred
million
dollars
worth
of
bond,
and
that's
s
if
you
use
the
numbers
based
on
the
four
percent
interest
on
a
30-year
bond
so
from
there's
Wharton
over
there.
I
think
that
would
be
the
numbers
that
hypothetically
and
right
now
we
may
be
able
to
get
less
than
30
percent.
We're
gonna
need
some
help
as
we
discuss
mr.
mill
with
from
our
state
delegation.
G
Our
members
of
the
House
and
General
Assembly,
because
if
there
is
going
to
be
an
increase
in
the
house,
battaglia
a
tax,
that's
got
to
come
through
the
state.
If
we're
gonna
get
was
a
$10,
pretty
increase
on
the
tour
people
as
you
and
I
discuss.
It's
gonna
be
pushed
back
on
that.
So
this
is
something
we're
gonna
have
to
be
united,
but
when
it
comes
to
getting
monies
from
Washington
or
everybody
else,
if
the
question
were
asked,
have
we
put
forth
our
best
efforts?
G
We
have
not
had
that
comprehensive
discussion
that
we've
talked
about
with
our
pools.
We
haven't
had
that
comprehensive
discussion
that
would
bring
the
best
practices
and
out
of
box
ideas,
for
example
the
lost
revenue
that
you
spoke
about,
I,
think
Amy
says
like
97%.
We
actually
use
it's,
not
quite
a
hundred
percent,
but
still
no
other
municipality
in
this
region
uses
as
much
money
as
we
do
to
reduce
property
taxes.
G
But
three
major
flooding
events
in
three
years
and
actually
two.
We
need
to
add
another
one.
It
was
about
a
five
and
a
half
inch
rain
that
we
got
in
2015
before
the
Thousand
Year
reign
event
that
put
people's
out
of
their
homes.
It
was
just
we
got
like
five
and
a
half
inches
in
like
two
or
three
hours
on
the
high,
so
it's
really
been
for
flooding
events
in
four
years,
that
put
people
out
of
out
of
their
homes
in
some
cases
and
to
keep
doing
it
the
same
way.
G
We
know
the
definition
of
insanity.
You
keep
doing
the
same
thing
the
same
way
and
expecting
additional
a
different
result
is
insanity,
and
it's
insane.
So
if
the
litmus
test
is,
what
did
you
do
to
pull
yourself
by
your
own
bootstraps
there?
The
lost
revenue
is
one.
An
additional
one
is
I,
know
we'd
like
to
additional
green
space
and
all
by
the
battery
and
again,
this
is
a
joint
discussion
with
13
people
in
here.
G
The
green
space
at
the
battery,
if
we
were
to
meet
at
a
parking
down
there,
we
may
be
able
to
generate
I,
don't
know
a
half
million
dollars
a
year
that
we
could
go
towards
bonding
and
funding
to
help
bridge
the
wall
down
there
green
space.
Maybe
we
can
get
that
later
on,
but
obviously
expediting
raising
the
wall
certainly
makes
sense,
I
think
out
of
every
1
million
or
so
based
on
that
calculation
you
raise
about
in
cash
flow.
You
you
raise
about
maybe
15
million
in
bonding
capacity.
G
G
The
people
who
go
and
fish
for
free
and
park
for
free
at
the
battery
will
push
back.
But
if
we
don't
do
anything
different,
we
won't
generate
any
additional
revenues
and
the
problem
that
we
have
right
now
is
larger
than
stormwater
budget
to
be
able
to
clean
every
ditch
in
this
city.
Once
every
year.
It's
going
to
take
additional
manpower,
but
years
ago
this
he
used
to
have
a
problem
with
potholes
and
it
got
to
be
such
a
problem
that
came
too
city
council.
G
We
don't
have
that
problem
anymore,
because
1-800
potholes
and
pretty
much
within
48
hours,
I
mean
I,
know
the
exception,
but
pretty
much
that's
taken
care,
but
councilmember
moody
is
right.
It
should
never
be.
A
person
has
flooded
out
a
home
because
the
ditch
wasn't
clean.
Mike
was
too
small
or
drainage
needed
to
be
vacuumed
out
those
things
we
can
do
something
about
Thank
You.
Mr.
mayor
Thank,.
M
I'm
glad
to
hear
him
say
that
we
had
raised
fee
on
someone
and
11
years,
because
I
said
yeah
11
years
before
we
raised
it
the
first
time
and
the
reason
we
raised
at
that
time,
he
was
in
a
meeting
on
Daniel,
Island
and
mayor
Ollie
had
to
leave
because
something
I
think
his
mother
law
was
sick.
So
we
decide
we
was
going
to
do
it
that
night.
M
M
Some
of
these
pipes
throughout
the
city
to
be
clean,
like
I,
said
earlier:
Laura
just
don't
have
the
staff
to
do
it
so
I
think
if
we
could
read
stormwater
fee
and
do
some
other
things
I
think
we
could
show
the
people
in
this
city
that
we
are
serious
about
being
the
City
Council
that
they
want
and
what
they
want.
They
want
basic
service
state,
and
this
is
one
of
the
basic
service
needs,
that
they
want
to
see
done
and
that's
to
prevent
the
flooding
as
much
as
we
possibly
can.
AD
I
think
that
the
question
is
where
do
we
go
from
here?
I
mean
I,
think
that
we
were
stating
the
obvious
that
everybody
who
represents
any
portion
of
the
city
has
a
constituent
or
a
neighborhood
that
complains
about
about
this
and
and
not
sure
how
we're
100
million
dollars
comes
out
of
or
that
number
sort
of
pops
up,
but
sees
the
two
things
that
I
heard
just
tonight
that
we
need
to
be
addressing.
AD
One
is
looking
at
revenue
and
they're,
often
that
means
of
raising
revenue
or
increasing
revenue
or
tapping
into
different
revenue
that
we
haven't
tapped
in
before,
and
the
second
thing
is
doing
something
along
the
lines
of
a
comprehensive
review
or
study.
As
to
our
policy
on
open
ditches
in
my
neighborhood
of
North,
Bridge
I
think
they're
too
far
around
to
see
the
overgrown
areas
and
I'm
dealing
with
a
particular
constituent
who's
has
a
shed
built
over
his
neighbor's
ditch
that
causes
problems
with
flooding.
AD
So
maybe
part
of
this
discussion
should
be
along
lines
of
let's
start
exploring
funding
options
in
increasing
fees
or
Cristina
lodges
are
tapping
into
things
we
haven't
tapped
into.
Before
of
this,
that's
available
to
be
be
looking
at
our
policy
on
open
ditches
and
whether
or
not
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
piping
in
these
older
subdivisions
in
the
cost
of
doing
that,
but
how
much
that
may
play
out
it's
saving
us
time
and
money
and
expense
and
not
having
to
to
reinvest
resources
on
maintenance
of
that.
So
I
think
it's.
AD
E
D
You
just
really
briefly
mr.
Marin
Thank
You
council
members
for
bringing
this
up
it'll
be
a
conversation.
We
should
be
having
every
time
we
meet.
I
agree.
Water
is
a
big
deal,
a
couple
things
we
are
doing.
That
I
think
is
just
probably
a
good
idea
to
keep
in
mind
in
order
to
get
to
a
place
where
I
mean
a
hundred
million
dollars
is
a
start.
D
If
you
believe
what
Mark
Wilbert
has
told
us
is,
two
billion
could
be
more,
it's
a
lot
of
money
to
protect
our
city
tomorrow,
the
next
day
and
fifty
years
down
the
road,
and
we
need
resources,
not
just
terms
of
money,
but
people
seeking
out
those
resources
in
our
budget
next
year
we
have
in
there
a
full
time
grant
writer
something
that
we're
going
to
need
we're
going
to
need
help
from
all
over
the
place
a
full
time
grant.
Writer
can
certainly
be
looking
at
that.
D
Officer
that's
coming
next
year,
so
we
will
have
some
of
those
people
in
place
to
be
doing
what
you
bring
up
tonight
and
thinking
about
all
the
time.
So
it
doesn't
end
up
on
the
shelf
and
speaking
of
ending
up
on
the
shelf,
I
just
couldn't
resist
because
you
brought
it
up.
We
have
in
fact
thought
about
taxing
head
taxing
people
off
the
cruise
ships.
Not
ever
we
thought
about
it.
We've
adopted
it
as
a
policy
of
this
council
13
to
nothing
in
the
tourism
management
plan.
So
well.
It
needs
to
be
talked
about.
D
There's
a
source
of
revenue
that
this
council
is
endorsed.
13
enough.
There
are
plenty
of
others
out
there
we
shouldn't.
We
should
leave
no
stone
unturned,
not
picking
any
one
industry,
but
that's
one.
That's
getting
a
free
pass
mean
a
free
pass,
so
congratulations
I'll,
bring
it
up.
We're
all
gonna
be
working
on
this
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
and
you
know,
like
I,
said,
a
hundred
million
dollars.
This
is
a
starting
point.
D
G
You
but
some
of
these
action
steps
is
going
to
involve
our
delegation,
so
they
can
actually
get
bills
in
committee
for
the
January
session.
So
that's
why
good
discussion?
It's
gonna
have
to
turn
into
action
steps
relatively
soon
because
it
it's
already
October
in
October.
So
anyway,
we
need
to
do
more
than
have
a
good
touchy-feely
conversation
and
not
many
acts.
B
So
if
I
may,
for
just
a
minute,
share
a
few
things,
thank
you
by
the
way
councilmembers,
Gregory
and
Wilson
for
for
bringing
up
this
matter.
It's
certainly
something
that
affects
every
district
in
every
part
of
the
city,
something
that
we
all
agree
on.
That
needs
intense
efforts
and
that
we
have
to
look
under
every
rock
that
we
can
find
for
funding
for
for
solutions.
B
So
but
I
do
want
to
point
out
a
couple
things,
one
of
which
is
is
city
staff
has
been
working
on
this
matter
diligently
this
year,
as
some
of
you
may
recall
that
came
to
our
workshop
meeting
in
July,
which
was
before
the
storm
season
this
year.
You
know
we
had
a
three-hour
presentation.
That's
mark
Wilbert
had
put
together
after
meeting
with
all
our
department,
heads
about
taking
our
sea
level
rise
strategies
which
deals
mostly
with
drainage
and
flooding
and
prioritizing
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
moving
forward.
B
It's
about
a
hundred
and
seventy
million
dollar
project
which
included
funding
from
federal
funds
through
Tiger,
because
that
was
involved
with
roadway
from
state
infrastructure
bank
board
funds
from
TIF
district
funds
from
our
gateway,
TIF
district
from
drainage,
the
millage
and
from
our
stormwater
fee,
so
that
one
project
included
funding
sources
from
at
least
five
of
these
different
topics
that
you've
mentioned
this
evening.
So
in
a
lot
of
this
is
project
driven
I
mean
you
can't
apply
for
the
TIF
funding.
B
Until
you
got
a
project
in
hand,
you
know
you
got
to
be
able
to
show
whoever
you're
applying
the
grant
for
that,
that
you've
got
a
specific
shovel-ready
project
before
they're
ready
to
to
put
funds
into
it.
So
we
have
to
prioritize
the
remaining
projects
that
were
left
from
the
stormwater
study
from
years
ago.
B
We
have
some
new
projects
that
we
already
know
that
we're
going
to
need
to
add
that
includes
the
church,
Creek
drainage
recommendations
that
we
expect
October
3rd
Jazz
week
after
next
and
then
we
also
need
to
account
as
you've
all
mentioned,
or
many
of
you
have
mentioned
the
maintenance
aspect.
So
even
if
we
get
a
eight
million
dollar
annual
income
stream,
that's
dedicated
to
drainage
and
flooding.
B
You
know
we
got
to
dedicate
a
certain
portion
of
that
to
the
guys
that
go
out
and
clean
the
ditches
and
do
all
like
that
so
week
before
last,
I
was
with
those
guys
and
if
you
look
down
council
member
eagle
along
bees,
ferry
right
between
going
right
from
from
the
Glenn
McConnell
on
the
other
side
of
the
street,
the
four
guys
were
in
there.
I
went
down
and
and
spent
a
little
time
with
them.
They
they
had
chainsaws.
They
completely
cleared
out
that
ditch.
B
It
was
amazing
difference
that
they
did
and
we
need
to
do
more
of
it,
but
I'm
just
saying
we
have
to
you,
know,
allocate
a
certain
amount
of
the
budget
to
to
maintenance
so
where
those
funds
come
from,
as
I
mentioned,
we've
used
TIF
funds
before
we've
used
a
gateway
funds
for
a
part
of
the
septum
of
Clark
project.
Part
of
the
Calhoun
West
Basin
also
hits
the
gate,
Wade
TIF
district
council
member
seeking.
So
we
can
use
some
future
funds
and
that
that
TIF
district
is
like
the
district
that
keeps
on
giving.
B
We
talked
about
at
our
last
budget
meeting
just
last
week
and
have
already
allocated
three
million
dollars
that
we
would
put
to
drainage
from
that.
The
West
future
west
edge
and
West
Ashley
TIF
districts
could
support
drainage
projects
in
the
future.
Part
of
the
West
Ashley
TIF
district
encompasses
the
doo-wop
area
that
the
city
and
county
is
currently
studying
as
to
specific
projects
that
are
to
come
Hospitality
funds.
B
We
have
in
fact
already
been
using
and
that's
where
we've
been
allocating
five
million
dollars
a
year
to
the
to
the
low
battery
seawall
project
that
we
look
to
start
in
the
next
year.
The
general
fund,
you
know,
for
capital
projects,
we
use
reserve
funds
every
year
to
go
to
capital
projects.
I
mean
we
got
to
set
some
priorities
as
to
which
capital
projects
you
want
to
assign
or
include
some
drainage
there,
I
don't
know.
If
you
all
know
this,
but
business
license
fees.
B
We're
going
to
need
some
port,
as
you
mentioned
from
our
legislatures
and
I,
would
welcome
y'all's
assistance
in
dealing
with
them,
so
here's
kind
of
where
I
see
it
between
now
and
the
end
of
the
year
we've
got
a
budget
to
approve,
we've
got
the
cross.
Creek
I
mean
the
church,
Creek
drainage
recommendations
coming
to
us.
B
B
We
ought
to
come
up
with
what
I
would
call
the
top
10
list
of
projects
that
we
identified
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
that's
going
to
force
us
into
that
equation
of
the
millage
and
the
stormwater
fee,
and
what
it's
going
to
require
of
our
citizens
really
to
kind
of
balance.
The
books
to
make
the
most
important
projects
go
forward,
whether
that's
70
million
or
100
million
I,
don't
know,
but
we'll
we'll
be
figuring
that
out
over
the
next
couple
of
months
and
I.
B
G
G
But
when
we
go
back
to
the
1984
study
or
whatever
the
1984
86,
whatever
is
approximately
40
years
ago
lesson
for
you,
it
was
never
as
I
see
it
if
a
funding
mechanism
just
to
take
care
of
ditches,
increasing
the
pipes
and
making
sure
these
these
well
right
scope
in
the
price,
making
sure
that
these
dreams
and
around
the
peninsula
and
elsewhere
are
sucked
out
on
a
regular
schedule,
because
we
just
had
the
money
to
dedicate
it
to
hide
a
manpower
to
do
it.
That's
the
change.
We
don't
take
anything
away
from
the
tips.
G
Obviously,
the
hospitality
money
that
we've
been
socking
away,
five
million
on
we
agree
with
that.
We
may
need
to
do
more.
Quite
frankly,
that's
right,
but
houses
of
flooding,
neighborhoods
of
flooding,
because
ditches
in
some
cases
aren't
clean
and
aren't
large
enough
and
the
pipes
is
too
small.
We
spoke
last
meeting
about
King
and
huge'
quite
a
bit
with
the
low
line
in
the
combination.
We
all
went
out
and
very
happy
from
that
unanimous
bulletin.
I
wouldn't
see
was
we
were
high-fiving,
but
we
all
felt
pretty
good
about
that.
G
Potential
drainage
solution
has
been
there
and
I
the
answer
since
Davis
and
Floyd
did
that
1984
study.
Those
cabinets
told
me
in
the
study.
If
it
required
I
think
right
now
we
have
a
24
or
maybe
a
36
inch
pipe.
That
study
had
called
for
a
two
culverts
full
feet:
tall
six
feet
wide
so
4
by
12
getting
getting
waters
out
of
there
from
1980
14.
Now
until
the
low
line
came
along
and
the
comprehensive
discussion
took
place
that
didn't
happen
now.
G
Obviously
the
city
could
have
paid
for
that.
All
right
we've
been
in
a
position
special
projects-
we've
done
them
great,
but
when
it
comes
to
that
everyday
meat-and-potato
things
like
a
pothole,
we
can
get
there
on
ditches
increase
in
the
pipes.
That's
the
cheapest
way
to
solve
a
flooding
problem,
a
ditch
gravity
flow
and
the
prophesize
pipes.
We've
got
that
all
over
the
city
and
we
certainly
got
all
west
of
the
peninsula,
not
so
much
on
Daniel,
because
it's
new,
the
right,
culverts
and
stuff
aren't
in,
but
the
special
funding
the
Tiger
grants.
G
I
agree
with.
All
of
that.
You
know
it
was
a
great
out-of-the-box
thinking
for
the
foot
across
town,
but
your
idea
about
going
to
the
infrastructure
bank
that
we
just
spoke
about
potentially
for
monies
to
help
with
the
wall.
Again,
it's
one
of
those
outer-box
ideas
that
I
think
we
all
have
to
push
in
the
right
direction.
So
just
and
this
got
discussion
tonight
we
probably
came
up
with
three
or
four
additional
ways
that
we
have
not
been
pursuing.
We
have
not
pursued
the
lost
revenue
as
a
potential
solution.
G
We
have
not
pursued
metering
the
battery
we
have
not
pursued,
obviously
what
you
made
mentioned,
potentially
going
to
the
infrastructure
bank
for
the
wall
at
the
battery,
so
I
certainly
hope
this
can
convert
to
action,
steps
and
obviously
include
now
local
delegation.
So
we
can
get
something
in
front
and
start
that
tug
of
war
conversation
with
Columbia
to
help
out
with
some
of
this.
All
right
thank.
C
Sir
one
quick
comment:
I
know
you
all
have
all
seen
it
is
you
drive
around
downtown
or
you
drive
down
Savannah
Highway.
We
see
these
landscapers
blowing
the
leaves
and
out
into
the
street,
and
it's
like
magic
they're
going
to
disappear
somewhere.
Well,
they
disappear
right
down
the
drain
and
I.
Don't
know
why
they
think
that's
solving
their
problem
rather
than
bagging
them,
but
basically
it
creates
problems
with
our
drainage
system
and
I
mean
there.
You
see
them
doing
it
all
the
time.
C
M
That's
why
we
have
coughing.
That's
why
it
was
extra
question.
They
need
to
be
out
here
for
doing
the
job.
They
do.
The
job
start
fine
assemblies
people.
We
will
have
the
problem
sweet
every
other
meeting
for
the
last
two
years
they
put
on
a
different
cause
when
offices,
which
that's
one
of
the
things
that
they
need
impose
so.
M
E
I
just
have
to
say
this:
our
recommendations
were
not
set
forward
to
make
light
of,
what's
already
going
on
that's
of
what's
going
on
at
all,
because
most
of
what
you
alluded
to
most
of
the
folks
on
this
council
voted
for,
so
we're
quite
aware
of
it,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
just
try
to
identifies
additional
way
ways
to
get
to
where
we
need
to
be.
E
It
is
not
going
to
require
a
priority
listing
for
me
to
determine
that
the
ditch
needs,
cleaning
and
maintaining
I
don't
need
that
on
a
list,
there's
some
things
that
are
just
very
obvious,
and
so
when
Kathleen
and
I've
been
having
our
discussions,
you
know
we're
trying
to
get
at
those
things
that
are
obvious.
That
will
not
take
in
multi
hundred
thousand
dollars
study
to
do
common
sensical
approaches
to
the
problems
that
we
face
on
James
Island.
So
I
don't
want
you
to
think
that
we're
making
light
at
all
which
staff
has
already
been
doing.
E
T
At
any
rate,
we
all
remember
the
great
Gathering
Place
debate
and
it
came
to
no
good
end
in
spite
of
best
efforts.
However,
there
is
one
parcel
that
remains
that
is
undeveloped.
It's
right
in
the
front
in
front
of
the
standard
and
some
days
if
there
are
rumors
that
the
the
property
owner
mister
loser
Yaga,
has
it
under
contract
and
other
days.
Not
what
I
would
ask
of
my
colleagues
here
as
we
now
have
additional
half
cent
Greenbelt
monies
and
those
monies
are
not
apparently
to
be
bonded.
T
The
way
the
first
round
was
but
spent
on
an
accrual
basis
and
I
would
like
to
talk
with
Colleen,
Carducci
and
I
would
like
to
talk
with
Mike
Schwartz
from
the
standard
and
potentially
even
the
town
of
James,
Island
and,
of
course,
the
city
and
see,
if
perhaps
we
can
put
together
something
to
purchase
that
one
acre,
I
believe
the
asking
price
at
least
right.
Now,
it's
a
little
under
an
acre.
T
It's
about
0.9
of
an
acre
is
around
a
million
dollars
and
I
think
that
would
it
would
add
something
to
going
down
may
bank
because
it's
going
to
be
devastating
when
core
begins
clearing
that
land
for
the
second
apartment,
complex,
especially
with
all
of
the
surface
parking.
That's
going
in
there
again,
not
not
a
good
end.
However,
preserving
that
one
acre
I
think
would
do
a
lot
for.
T
To
break
up
the
monotony
to
break
up
the
buildings
and
would
certainly
preserve
that
remaining
one
acre.
So
I
would
ask
your
your
support
as
a
council
in
moving
forward
with
these
various
conversations
and
when
I
come
back
to
I
hope
to
come
back
to
council
member
Gregory
with
something
more
tangible
and
perhaps
seeing
where
we
can
cobble
together.
This
mean
it's
it's
just
like
with
the
drainage
issue.
E
Because
we've
had
the
discussion
mirror
on
on
that
piece
of
land
and
more
than
one
of
my
neighborhood
associations,
cross,
creek
and
lakeside
over
a
year
year
and
a
half
ago
wanted
us
to
move
forward
with
trying
to
get
the
city.
Aren't
intergovernmental
effort
to
acquire
the
land.
Because
the
standard
and,
of
course
the
Corps
that's
being
built.
E
Has
some
issues
with
respect
to
impervious
surfaces,
to
say
the
least
and
I
think
that
this
tract
of
land
would
help
us
in
that
regard,
in
addition,
really
giving
some
nice
public
space
to
soften
and
balance
that
area?
The
last
thing
we
need
is
a
restaurant
there
mayor
and
if
we
don't
move
fairly
quickly.
Okay,
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
it's
zoned
for,
so
this
is
not
one
that
we
want
to
just
sit.
E
We
do
need
to
move
forward
to
try
to
see
whether
or
not
acquisition,
multi
County
multi
jurisdiction,
however,
so
that
we
can
get
that
land,
because
it
really
definitely
would
soften
things.
We're
talking
about
on
that
area,
we're
probably
talking
about
out
from
ultimately
700
or
more
units
apartment
units.
We've
got
to
create
a
buffer
there,
I'll.
C
But
the
several
mayor
are
trying
to
move
that
to
say,
okay,
so
this
it
might
be
a
way
that
we
can
help
some
of
this
to
create
more
money
that
would
be
available
for
these
kind
of
things.
So
I
know
you're,
pushing
that
and
I
know,
there's
four
or
five
other
mayors
and
I
don't
know
who
they
are
that
are
pushing
it
also,
so
maybe
I
would
encourage
you
to
keep
pushing
so.
B
I
can
give
you
all
a
brief
update,
jason
Cron's
burg
by
the
way
is
representing
the
city.
I've
asked
him
to
represent
us
on
the
Greenbelt
advisory
board.
They've
had
a
couple
of
meetings,
the
second,
the
new
half
cent
as
a
council
member
moody
mentioned
the
old,
the
first
half
cent
at
70%
rule
and
30%
urban
and
we've
requested
just
in
our
meeting
with
their
consultant
and
their
director
that
they
flipped
that
they
had
a
meeting
the
other
day,
the
consultant
and
the
staff
recommended
to
the
board
that
it
be
a
50/50
split.
B
They
didn't
take
a
vote
on
it,
yet
they'll
meet
again
in
November
and
hopefully
that
matter
will
be
resolved
and
also
whether
they
will
bond
any
of
it
or
not.
So
those
decisions
haven't
been
finalized,
so
we
don't
know
yet
what
our
income
stream
is
going
to
be,
but
I'm
looking
forward
to
them.
Resolving
it
I
think
the
rural
areas
had
their
turn.
They
had
their
70%
and
I.
B
Think
I
made
a
pretty
good
case
to
the
folks
that
the
urban
areas
need
more
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
be
flexible
to
spend
it
on
existing
property
and
park
space
that
we
own,
that
hadn't
been
developed
yet,
and
the
idea
that
they
would
continue
to
buy
conservation
rights
on
basically
private
property
without
the
public
having
use
of
the
property
I
think
it's
just
wrong,
and
so
hopefully
going
forward
we'll
get
a
little
better
income
stream.
But
it
may
not
be
all
at
once.
B
It
may
be
over
time,
and
so
we
just
have
to
see
what
the
advisory
board
comes
in
and
then
we
can,
you
know,
look
at
gathering
place,
pretty
I!
Think
it's
a
million
and
a
quarter.
1.25
million
is
the
asking
price
for
the
property
and
then
the
the
property.
Also
you
mention
at
the
its
on
Harbor
View
Road
right.
T
And
that's
why
I
bring
these
up,
knowing
that
these
discussions
are
going
on
with
the
mayor's
and
with
the
allocation
of
money?
That's
why
I
felt
that
it
was
the
time
to
bring
these
up
this.
This
property
along
the
James
Island
connector,
has
been
a
little
more
internal
towards
James
Island.
However,
it's
a
it's
a
parcel.
If
you
come
off
the
connector
on
Harbor
View,
you
get
on
Harbor
View
as
though
you're
going
down
towards
the
cemetery
look
off
to
the
right.
T
T
The
landowner
was
not
willing
to
sell
for
the
appraised
value
she
felt
it
was
worth
more,
but
in
looking
at
that
line
or
looking
at
that
property
and
looking
how
critical
line
has
changed
over
the
years
that
property
is
rapidly,
if
not
becoming
completely
undeveloped,
a
bowl,
it
would
be
a
real
shame
to
try
and
cram
houses
on
there
as
it
is.
It
is
zoned
for
single-family
residential
because
they
would
all
have
to
be
up
substantially
high
and
it
would
be
unsightly,
but
this
is
again
it's
a
really
nice.
T
It's
an
entryway
to
James
Island,
coming
off
the
connector
and
would
be
a
suitable
purchase
for
a
Greenbelt
funds
and
a
good
addition
to
to
these
small
parks
that
we
have
and
preserve
that
land
Charleston
water
system
is
going
to
be
purchasing
or
they've
already
purchased.
Many
of
the
houses
in
her
review
circle
that
will
become
the
expansion
for
that
facility
with
offices
and
the
like.
They
were
very,
very
supportive
about
coming
on
board
as
a
potential
partner
with
the
purchase
of
the
land
and
contributing
a
sizable
sum
to
that
purchase.
T
So
that
is
something
that's
kind
of
an
ace
that
we're
holding
right
there.
So
the
city,
it
would
not
be
incumbent
upon
one
body
or
another
for
the
full
purchase
price.
So
I
need
to
bring
these
things
up,
while
the
discussions
are
ongoing
with
with
the
mayors-
and
you
all
know
that
that
we
hope
that
details
will
be
forthcoming
and
may
be
coming
to
you
for
an
ask
right.
B
B
B
B
E
B
B
B
G
B
Sorry,
third
reading
and
ratification
of
number
three
we've
got
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
Now
we
can
go
to
number
four.
We
got
a
motion
to
approve.
Do
we
have
a
second
okay,
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
now
for
third
reading
a
ratification,
we
got
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes.
B
Have
it
next
is
L
they
kind
of
go
together:
L
1,
&,
2
bills
up
for
first
reading.
This
might
look
a
little
ominous,
but
it's
just
to
put
into
place
what
council
approved
about
a
year
ago,
when
we
approved
for
accommodations
use
right
right
in
the
midst
of
the
septum
of
Clark
Parkway,
where
the
old
Wendy's
is,
and
the
owner
allowed
a
right-of-way
to
be
given
to
the
city
to
for
a
future
alignment
with
hey
good
Avenue
to
cross
the
cross
town.
So
that's
what
1
&
2
are
about.
M
B
M
B
V
B
B
D
Didn't
hear
I,
don't
think
councilor
wagging
a
finger,
so
he's
gonna
say
but
I
predict,
I,
know
what
he's
gonna
say
and
that
is
to
request
a
hearing.
I'm,
not
sure
we
have
to
amend
our
agenda
to
do
that.
I
went
back
and
looked
at
the
law
today.
I
think
that's
something
he
can
do
in
the
regular
course
of
business
and
has
to
be
put
on
an
agenda
somewhere
the
road
amending
an
agenda
and
have
a
discussion
about
somebody
that
might
be
on
an
agenda
somewhere
down.
D
The
road
I
think
will
take
us
in
a
path
that
we
don't
need
to
go.
I
mean
I.
Think
if
there's
some
request
to
have
something
on
an
agenda
council
members
can
do
that
if
it's
specific
under
Section
2
dash
19
of
our
code-
which
I
think
is
I
four-
is
going.
It
clears
these
clearly
states.
It
can
be
on
an
agenda
on
a
request
with
a
weeks
notice,
we'd.
B
B
D
A
V
Sir
I
wanted
to
continue
the
discussion
because,
on
the
on
the
15th
of
August,
it
was
really
late,
and
this
is
why
I'm,
why
I'm
wanting
to
talk
about
it
and
it
was
very
late.
It
was
like
10
o'clock
at
night,
we'd
been
there
for
hours
and
22
minutes
according
to
the
tape,
plus
we've
had
three
hours
of
committee
meetings
before
that
we
were
ready
to
go
home
and
get
something
to
eat
anyway.