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From YouTube: City of Charleston Council Meeting 12/6/22
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City of Charleston Council Meeting 12/6/22
A
All
right,
I
would
like
to
again
thank
everybody
for
your
patience.
I
know
our
ways
and
means
meeting
ran
over
I
would
like
to
call
this
December
16th
Council
of
Charleston
to
order
Madam
clerk.
Would
you
please
call
the
roll
councilmember.
C
A
All
right,
thank
you.
All.
First
up,
we've
got
a
resolution
in
remembrance
of
Joe
Ingle
and
it's
kind
of
a
long
resolution,
but
we're
gonna.
We
took
our
time
on
the
budget.
We're
going
to
take
our
time
on
this
as
well.
Now
I
have
some
names
here
that
were
provided
with
me.
A
Please
join
me
along
with
Brandon
fish,
any
members
of
the
Jewish
Federation
who
would
like
to
join
us
on
the
podium.
Please
please
come
forward
and
join
me
as
I
share
this
resolution
with
with
with
Council
and
the
public,
and
then
I'll
ask
a
couple
of
Representatives
to
share
a
few
words
so
and
and
and
this
resolution
tonight.
A
Y'all
is
really
dual
purpose
to
remember:
Joe
Ingle,
but
also
to
shine
a
light
on
a
a
very
troubling
Trend
in
our
country
and
that's
a
rise
in
anti-Semitism
and
hatred
in
this
country,
and
we
all
stand
together
to
shine
a
light
on
that.
So
the
resolution
again
I
ask
your
patience.
A
It
says,
whereas,
as
family
and
friends
mourn
Joe,
Ingalls
death,
we
remember
his
perseverance
and
honor
his
legacy
of
education
and
kindness
by
retelling.
His
life
story
and
Joe
was
just
13
or
14
years,
when
the
Nazis
invaded
Poland
in
September
of
1939
and
watched
that
the
Nazis
force,
the
town's
Jews
to
assemble
in
the
town
square
and
shot
dead,
150
young
men
and
whereas
Joe
was
eventually
sent
to
the
auswitch
birkenau
death
camp
witnessed
and
suffered
bitter
cold
hunger,
starvation,
disease,
beatings
and
other
forms
of
inhumane
and
cruel
torture.
A
Job
buried
himself
in
the
snow
until
they
moved
on.
Joe
survived
the
remainder
of
the
war
in
the
forest.
Joe
lost,
approximately
150
relatives
to
the
Holocaust
and
whereas
Joe
came
to
Charleston
in
1949,
eventually
opened
a
successful
business.
Glamor
cleaners
on
King
Street
and
whereas
Joe
dedicated
his
life
to
sharing
his
experience
with
tens
of
thousands
of
people
making.
Sure
the
horrors
of
the
Holocaust
are
not
forgotten.
A
One
that
frequently
charges
Jews
with
conspiring
to
harm
humanity
and
blames
Jews.
For
quote
why
things
go
wrong.
It
is
expressed
in
speech,
writing
visual
forms
and
action
and
employs
Sinister
stereotypes
and
negative
character
traits.
According
to
the
Anti-Defamation
League's
annual
audit,
South
Carolina
experienced
a
67
percent
increase,
a
surge
in
anti-Semitic
incidents
in
the
last
year
in
2021,
and
whereas
this
month,
our
Jewish
Community
will
be
celebrating
Hanukkah.
A
The
the
Festival
of
Lights,
based
on
The
Story
of
Survival
in
the
face
of
religious
persecution
and
whereas
the
City
of
Charleston
looks
to
shine
a
light
on
anti-Semitism
and
unequivocally
rejects
it,
along
with
all
other
forms
of
racism,
religious
intolerance
and
other
prejudices,
both
here
in
Charleston
and
around
the
world.
In
2018,
the
City
of
Charleston
adopted
its
hate
crime,
ordinance,
rendering
discrimination
on
the
basis
of
religion,
race
and
ethnicity.
A
Unlawful
in
this
city,
and
whereas
city
council
affirms
the
city's
ongoing
commitment
to
cultivate
an
inclusive
safety
and
just
society
and
culture
that
values
the
diversity
of
our
community,
Works
to
and
sure
Equitable
opportunities
in
all
major
facets
of
society
and
celebrates
both
our
individuality
and
our
commonality.
City
council
urges
residents,
adopt
these
values
in
their
own
lives,
calling
attention
to
these
harms
and
denouncing
anti-Semitism
hate
and
extremism
to
help
keep
us
all
safe.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved.
A
I
John
Jay
techenberg,
mayor
of
the
City
of
Charleston,
on
behalf
of
all
our
citizens,
hereby
extend
to
the
members
of
the
Engel
family.
This
expression
of
sincere
regret
for
your
loss.
It's
a
loss
of
our
community
and
hope
and
know
you
will
be
consoled
by
the
incredible
memories
of
the
fine
life
and
achievements
of
Joe
Ingle
foreign.
D
E
E
E
E
We
must
take
sides,
neutrality
helps
the
oppressor.
Never
the
victim
silence
encourages
the
Tormentor,
never
the
tormented,
I,
hope
and
pray
someday.
We
can
go
to
synagogue,
we
can
go
to
church,
we
can
go
to
a
mosque
and
not
have
to
look
over
our
shoulder
waiting
for
something
to
come
in
that
door.
That
wants
to
kill
us.
F
Thank
you,
mayor
tecklenberg
and
Council
men
and
women
I
know
so
many
of
you
and
I
so
appreciate
what
you
have
done
today
and
Shining.
A
light
on
Joe's
memory
is
really
important.
I've
known
him,
since
I
was
14
years
old,
but
also
my
parents
were
Holocaust
Survivors.
So
for
me
this
is
critically
important.
They
experience
this
in
their
lives.
They
you
heard
everything
that
Joe
went
through.
My
parents
went
through
the
same
things.
They
lived
in
the
woods,
but
it
was
through
the
help
of
righteous
Gentiles
that
they
survived.
F
F
But
what's
really
difficult
to
take
is
the
amount
of
anti-Semitism
in
our
own
world,
as
well
as
other
hatred
and
remember
when
Germany
and
the
Holocaust
happen,
Hitler
murdered
six
million
Jews
a
million
and
a
half
were
children,
but
he
also
also
murdered
five
million
others
he
murdered
blacks.
He
murdered
people
who
were
infirm,
he
murdered
people
with
disabilities.
F
You
need
to
think
about
all
the
people
and
yes,
I'm
very
concerned
about
my
own
faith
in
particular,
but
I
want
people
to
remember
that
this
was
bigger
than
even
that,
because
you
forget
sometimes
how
many
people
were
persecuted
and
damaged,
and
we
have
to
remember
all
our
people
because
I'm
about
loving
others.
My
mother
taught
me
that,
through
all
the
difficulties
and
the
bitterness
and
the
harshness
she
lived
through,
she
was
never
a
harsh
person.
She
believed
in
love.
F
G
He
came
to
my
school
when
a
kid
told
me
that
he
wanted
to
play
Nazi
tag
with
me
and
that
I
would
be
the
Jew,
and
this
is
still
happening.
I
find
I
was
just
out
in
the
hall
listening
to
y'all
talk
and
bicker
about
taxes
and
I.
Know
that
what's
happening
in
here
is
a
lot
of
it
is
for
reelection
and
I
can't
help
but
be
insulted
on
behalf
of
my
community,
because
I
have
Coke
bottles
put
in
my
bag.
G
Pictures
taken
of
me
and
you
have
the
ability
to
post
when
Hanukkah
and
the
square
happens
or
Jewish
food
festival
happens,
but
I
don't
see
things
happening
and
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
Hope
because
of
this,
but
I
am
so
encouraged
because
of
the
Holocaust
Survivors
like
Joe.
That
I
just
have
to
keep
on
trusting
that
something
will
happen
and
I
hope
that
you
will
not
go
home
and
forget
this,
that
you
will
talk
to
your
friends
about
it.
You
don't
have
to
be
a
liberal.
G
H
Rabbi
Evan
ravsky,
the
rabbi
of
synergy
Manuel,
thank
you
for
having
us
this
evening
and
for
for
giving
the
angles
this.
This
incredible,
honor
Mike
as
Joe
was
sick
and
we
were
visiting
Mike
showed
me
this
wall
of
the
Honors
that
that
Joe
had
received
in
his
life,
many
of
them
from
this
city,
and
it
was
just
incredible
to
see
that
he
wasn't
just
an
icon
in
the
Jewish
Community,
but
truly
a
Charleston
treasure
right
before
this.
H
This
meeting
I
was
over
at
MUSC
talking
to
a
group
of
student
Pas
about
cultural
sensitivity
and
and
things
that
they
can
practice
in
their
health
care,
and
when
I
mentioned
that
I
was
coming
over
here
after
for
this
ceremony,
because
it
had
been,
you
know
just
about
a
week
since
Joe
Engel
died,
a
number
of
the
students,
gasped
and
I
sort
of
smiled
and
I
stopped.
H
The
presentation
I
said
how
many
of
you
went
to
high
school
here
in
Charleston,
and
a
few
of
them
raised
their
hand
and
I
said:
Joe
came
to
your
high
school
and
spoke
had
didn't
he
and
they
all
nodded
and
they
started
talking.
H
You
know
about
those
those
moments
when
he
had
come
to
visit
them
and
the
impact
that
he
he
had
on
them
and
we,
you
know
we
couldn't
go
long
into
that
discussion,
but
it
was
just
it
was
that
beautiful
vision
of
watching
how
Joe
had
impacted
the
next
generation
of
of
students
of
people
right
regardless
of
of
religion,
and
it
was
something
that
I
that
I
came
over
here
and
I
mentioned
to
the
angles,
because
it
was
just
so
beautiful,
a
beautiful
way
to
to
start
off
this
evening
before
coming
here.
H
For
this,
the
Jewish
Community
worldwide
is
sort
of
at
a
a
moment,
a
turning
point
where
the
survivors
of
the
Holocaust
are
are
truly
passing
right.
We
will
live
to
see
the
end
of
their
generation
and
we
will
be
those
voices
that
that
pass
on
their
stories
that
can
can
attest
to
the
horrors
of
the
Holocaust.
And
while,
yes,
we,
we
will
have
to
say
it
didn't
happen
to
me.
H
It
happened
to
my
uncle
to
my
parents,
to
my
grandparents
and
we
will
have
to
tell
their
stories,
and
so
proclamations
like
this.
One
and
actions
like
this
by
these
cities
affirm
that
these
names
and
these
stories
will
be
remembered
and
will
never
be
forgotten
and
will
be
carried
on
and
I
know.
Joe,
wouldn't
forgive
me
if
I
didn't
make
a
plug
for
his
film,
because
a
number
of
years
ago,
Joe
put
together
a
film
of
his
story.
H
Joe
made
him
promise
not
to
charge,
and
so
I
would
encourage
you.
You
can
reach
out
to
Mike
or
to
myself
at
the
synagogue,
sneaga
Manuel,
to
get
one
of
those,
those
DVDs
to
hear
his
story
to
be
able
to
teach
it
to
your
own
children
and
grandchildren
and
friends
to
remember
his
name
and
so
many
other
names
of
the
people
who
suffered
in
the
Holocaust
that
we
can
carry
on
their
names
and
their
legacies.
Thank
you.
I
Foreign
good
evening,
my
name
is
Rachel
grader
I
just
would
like
to
make
a
plea
to
everyone
about
making
an
impact
in
your
sphere
of
influence.
I
I
I
J
Anybody
who
knew
Joe
knew
how
precious
he
was
to
this
world
to
our
our
nation
and
certainly
to
this
city
into
the
Low
Country
I'll
miss
seeing
him
at
the
Variety
Store
with
Charlie,
and
he
was
there
almost
every
time.
I
was
there
and
a
couple
things
I
just
want
to
share.
He
spoke
to
our
Command,
our
police
command,
our
executive
team,
and
you
could
have
heard
a
pin,
drop
and
I
think
that's
the
way.
J
It
was
every
time
he
spoke
and
there
were
some
great
questions
and
then
we
had
a
conference
on
hate
and
he
spoke
at
that
and
I
just
want
to
make
a
statement
to
the
family
here
to
our
community
to
his
brothers
and
sisters
to
all
of
you
in
the
synagogue.
I
know:
I
speak
for
the
mayor,
for
the
council,
for
this
city
and
I
certainly
speak
for
the
police
department
that
we
stand
with
you
that
there
is
no
space
between
us
and
you.
J
I
I
have
spoken
to
family
and
friends
who
have
children
who
are
afraid
to
go
to
school,
who
get
picked
on
and
bullied
and
all
those
things
that
you've
said
and
it's
important
for
us
to
tell
you
that
we
are
with
you
publicly
consistently
the
mayor's
led
a
crusade
with
many
others
to
get
a
hate
crime
law
passed
in
the
state.
We've
got
an
ordinance
in
our
city,
but
it's
not
enough
and
we
all
we
all
stand
with
you.
K
My
name
is
Arthur
Lawrence
and
I
used
to
be
the
president
of
the
West
Side
neighborhood
association
and
with
Jeff
Roberts,
and
when
I
was
a
young
man.
I
met
Joe
on
King
Street.
He
worked
close
with
our
neighborhood
in
honoring
of
Jill,
with
Jeff
Robert
right
off
of
King.
Street
is
angle,
Place
Joe
angle
place
so
that
our
community
will
always
remember
Joe
and
our
community
west
side
always
will
support
you
in
anything
that
we
can
do
for
you
for
your
health,
for
you,
yeah.
D
K
A
Well,
thank
you
again
for
being
with
us
all
I
reflected
on
Joe
and
my
own
relationship
and
I
had
those
long
words
in
the
resolution,
but
I've
kind
of
summarized
it
in
my
heart,
like
this,
that
Joe
Engel
had
to
endure
the
worst
of
what
Humanity
had
to
offer,
but
amazingly
he
expressed
in
his
life
the
best
of
what
Humanity
had
to
offer
God
bless
you.
L
A
D
A
A
A
A
This
11
12
year
old
team
competed
in
the
soccer
Carolina
youth
soccer,
public
Fall,
Festival
tournament
against
the
Irmo
Chapin
Recreation
Commission
rowdies,
the
ebony
soccer
little
Pele,
mosquitoes
won
the
match
3-1
and
were
crowned
the
Champions.
The
coaches
for
the
team
are
Stephen
Nelson
and
Ben.
Powell
ebony
soccer
is
run
by
long
time,
administrator
and
Coach
Vince
Ashby
Vince
also
serves
on
the
city's
citizen.
A
Recreation
Commission,
the
the
team
includes
Dominique
Goodwin,
raise
your
hand
if
you're
here,
they're,
not
all
here:
kamani
Lee,
William,
Powell,
tauren,
Robinson,
Zion,
Simmons,
Danelle,
Singleton,
Giovanni,
Singleton,
McKenna,
Singleton,
Nicholas,
Steed,
Zion,
Steed,
Brendan,
Thomas
Hudson
to
park,
Jameson
Edwards,
Nolan,
Johnson
and
Jeremiah
Logan.
We
are
so
proud
of
you
and
your
coaches
and
families.
On
behalf
of
city
council,
we
would
like
to
congratulate
you
and
wish
you
continued
success.
D
D
M
Good
it's
a
way
of
life.
It's
can
be
competitive,
but
it's
usually
for
fun.
It's
not
always
just
it's
not
always
just
a
way
to
play.
It's
just
a
way
to
express
yourself,
there's
multiple
ways
to
do
it
and
I'm
talking
to
my
coaches,
about
helping
the
community
of
the
poor
and
we're
thinking,
we're
thinking
about
doing
the
fundraiser
so
come
down.
N
L
Good
evening,
thank
you
as
the
mayor
referenced,
there's
a
big
tournament
going
on
in
Qatar
right
now
and
all
eyes
have
been
on
it.
I'm
sure
that
our
players
have
been
watching
over
the
past
couple
weeks
and
we'll
we'll
through
to
the
final
and
that's
I,
think
for
us
guys
just
a
reminder
of
the
the
boundless
opportunity
that
is
in
front
of
you
as
players
and
as
people.
That
knows
no
borders
in
terms
of
your
your
potential
and
and
where
you
can
go
individually
and
together
at
ebony,
City
soccer.
L
We
operate
on
the
seven
principles,
African
principles
of
Kwanzaa.
We
are
Guided
by
the
spirit
of
harambe,
which
means
pull
together.
We
all
pull
together
and
that
really
guides
our
operation
as
a
as
a
team
as
a
club
and
as
a
community
at
ebony,
City
soccer.
L
Also
that
informs
our
place
here
in
the
community
in
the
City
of
Charleston,
and
we
are
grateful
mayor
to
the
to
the
city,
to
the
recreation
department,
for
your
support
with
facilities
and
with
programming,
and
we
look
forward
to
continued
growth
in
a
spirit
of
togetherness
and
harambe
with
you
and
the
City
of
Charleston.
Thank
you.
A
So,
finally,
for
our
last
presentation,
we
have
the
2023
Robert
Ballard
award
and
I'd
like
to
ask
Donna,
Gill
and
her
family
to
join
me
up
here
on
the
podium
Donna.
Please
come
forward
in
any
of
your
family
members,
you'd
like
to
join
you
and
happened.
A
Bramily
gotcha
I
love
that
so
y'all
since
1999,
the
City
of
Charleston
has
honored
a
neighborhood
leader
for
committed
volunteer
service
with
an
award
each
year
previously
named
for
Harold,
the
award
was
renamed
for
another
committed
volunteer,
Robert
Ballard
after
his
death
Mr
ballad
was
instrumental
in
improving
the
livability
of
our
city
and
advocated
for
our
regulated
street
sweeping
program.
He
also
opened
his
home
to
citizen
groups
to
host
meetings
and
supporting
Grassroots
advocacy
efforts
for
many
causes
in
the
city.
In
the
process
he
strengthened
relationships
among
neighbors
I.
Think
many
of
us
knew
Robert.
A
A
Each
of
them
helped
make
Charleston
the
special
place
that
it
is
we're
grateful
for
their
service,
but
the
neighborhood
Council,
who
gets
together
and
votes
on
this
award
and
could
I
ask
members
of
the
neighborhood
Council
to
please
stand
and
be
recognized,
appreciate,
y'all's
Service,
as
we
continue
this
honor,
because
these
folks
have
been
in
the
trenches
and
knows
what
it
takes,
but
they
voted
to
honor,
Miss,
Donna,
gill,
from
West
Ashley,
with
the
Robert
Ballard
award
for
2023,
because
because
of
her
tireless
efforts
to
advocate
for
neighbors
and
community
members
who
are
experiencing
homelessness,
she
hosts
a
weekly
potluck
in
the
park
at
Hampstead
Square
every
Sunday,
where
people
can
come
and
receive
friendship
and
a
warm
meal.
A
She
advertises
and
markets
these
events
using
social
media
to
reach
people
in
need
at
the
weekly
potluck.
She
provides
clothing
and
shoes
to
Residents
who
might
need
them.
Her
potluck
dinners
bring
together
people
who
would
not
normally
connect,
and
in
that
sense
she
is
a
true
Community
Builder
like
Mr
Ballard,
our
city
and
Community
are
stronger
and
more
resilient
for
people
like
Miss
Gill.
The
City
of
Charleston
is
grateful
for
service
and
therefore
it
is
my
honor
to
present
to
Ms
Gill
with
this
plaque
for
the
2023
Robert
Ballard
award
for
volunteer
River.
Congratulations.
D
O
You
thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
all
and
come
to
Memphis
I
appreciate
it
very,
very
much
I'm
I'm,
humbled
and
and
honored
and
incredulous.
Frankly,
there
are
so
many
wonderful
people
here
in
Charleston
that
go
above
and
beyond.
O
O
There
should
be
a
hundred
other
people
behind
me.
I
only
coordinate
this
meal
I
think
three
years
now
it
just
celebrated
its
10-year
anniversary,
and
there
was
a
whole
Litany
of
predecessors
and
and
current
volunteers
that
need
to
be
standing
beside
me.
It
truly
takes
a
village
and
that's
what
my
family,
my
dad
in
particular
taught
me,
and
it's
so
ingrained
to
me.
I
can't
think
of
another
way
to
be.
O
Sometimes
people
ask
me:
why
do
you
do
this,
and
why
would
you
you
need
to
focus
on
you?
You
need
to
do
this.
No
I
you're
asking
me
to
have
a
lobotomy
I
need
to
do
what
I
know
is
right
and
my
fellow
volunteers,
my
fellow
activists,
some
of
whom
are
here
for
other
reasons.
O
We
just
believe
in
human
rights,
equality
and
basic
respect
for
everyone,
and
if
the
underserved
and
the
underprivileged
can't
do
it
for
themselves,
then
it's
my
job,
it's
your
job
to
do
it
for
them.
Thank
you
very
much
for
this.
A
So
I
often
say
that
a
community
as
I
believe
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
are
judged
as
individuals
by
how
we
help
those
most
in
need
and
if
that's
true,
Donna
Gill
you,
you
provide
Charleston
with
with
the
a
plus
rating
of
of
caring
for
those
most
in
need
in
our
community.
So
once
again,
my
thanks.
Ours
thank
from
city,
council
and
all
our
citizens
for
the
wonderful
work
you
do
in
the
community
and
thanks
again
to
the
neighborhood
commission
for
recognizing
you,
God
bless.
A
P
I
would
ask
that,
since
these
four
items
are
all
related
to
the
budget,
that
we
take
one
through
four
together,
but
allow
for
extended
time
for
people
to
make
remarks
if
they
want
to
be
heard
on
the
matter.
A
Absolutely
second,
absolutely
all
in
favor
of
taking
these
four
items
together,
please
say:
aye,
any
poor
fiance
have
it
so
so
any
comment
from
citizens
about
our
budget.
Anything
the
city
is
spending
funds
on
for
next
year.
Please
come
forward,
identify
yourself
and
your
address
and
we'd
be
happy
to
hear
from
you.
We've
been
talking
all
night,
but
if
you
can
keep
your
remarks
to
90
seconds,
that
would
be
great
if
you
need
a
little
more
time.
Just
let
me
know
Mr
Bryant.
You
want
to
kick
us
off.
Yes,.
Q
The
budget
is,
is
probably
the
most
important
meeting
after
this
meeting
shouldn't
be
any
more,
in
my
opinion,
on
November
22nd.
When
I
came
here,
the
court
of
appeals
and
responded
to
my
complaint
regarding
arpa
funding
and
cares
act,
funding
absent
of
the
final
rule.
Q
5.8
was
done
by
Dominion
Energy
to
Public
Service
Commission
at
5.8
percent.
If
you
right
now
to
10
percent,
you
gotta
check
had
to
pay
your
light
bill,
it'd
be
5.8
percent,
so
your
10
would
really
be
five.
Q
So,
therefore,
what
we
need
to
do
is
look
at
having
a
rate
increase
and
having
some
type
of
increase
for
developers.
You
know
to
you,
know,
chip
in
a
little
more
I,
don't
think
that
you're
taxing
being
enough
and
you
can't
cut
taxes,
I
told
a
friend
of
mine
if
your
tax
rate
don't
cover
your
expenses,
so
really
you're,
not
cutting
taxes,
you're,
saying
you're
cutting
taxes
now,
particularly
for
senior
citizens
in
the
community,
with
homestead
exemptions
that
they
have.
Q
What
are
we
going
to
do
in
terms
of
addressing
the
county
but
Homestead
exemptions
existing
residents
in
the
community,
their
concerns
that
they
have
regarding
those
emerging
residents,
but
the
planning
and
development
you
did
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
I
think
of
some
advocacy
going
on
there.
We
can't
be
advocating
for
applicants.
We
have
to
have
a
point
of
order
on
that
issue.
During
the
prevailing
side,
it
is
a
historic
preservation
committee
I
can't
get
out
in.
Q
Because
historical
preservation
committee
for
the
county,
you
acknowledge
that
that
commission,
what
happened?
Was
the
county?
Neighbors
didn't
receive
any
notice
about
it
or
the
academic
about
this
commission?
That's
behind
that's
behind
the
property,
so
the
county
has
a
historical
preservation
behind
the
property.
I
spoke
to
to
the
Carter,
the
Ombudsman
it
borders
from
this
Honeycutt
District
Miss,
Johnson's
District.
They
both
didn't
know
anything
about
it.
Q
So
if
you're
in
a
prevailing
side
of
that
issue,
we'd
hope
that
the
applicant
goes
to
the
county
as
he
was
Honeycutt,
Miss,
Johnson
and
others
to
ensure
those
and
behind
them
are
failing
existing
residents,
so
existing
residents
to
be
treated
with
little
more
respect
as
you
grow
the
city.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir,
and
also
you
also
have
by
Public
Service
Commission
public
comments.
I
made
in
2012
the
public
service
chairman,
so
Mr
Mr,
shade
and
to
the
chairman
regarding
scg
rate
increases.
Q
You
get
franchise
fees,
you
get
you
get
franchise
fees
right
and
the
question
that
comes.
What
are
you
doing
with
the
franchise
fees,
the
million
energies
and
stocks
going
up
to
the
roof
and
they're
making
all
kinds
of
money?
So
we
need
to
make
sure
the
utility
companies
security
property
like
in
North
Carolina,
so
we
don't
be
out
of
out
of
light
right,
make
sure
that's
secured
and
the
Homeland
Security
Act
2002,
which
I
filed
a
complaint
10
years
ago.
About
that
this
whole
land
Securities,
must
protect
us
from.
A
R
I've
seen
plenty
changes
have
taken
place
and
when
seeking
councilman
seeking
wearing
Gregory
came
on
board,
a
great
change
came
in
Gregory
councilman
Gregory.
He
went
after
mayor
Raleigh
constantly
he
brought
into
TV
and
everything
the
television
and
when
you
hear
that
word
television,
it
says,
Tell
your
vision
and
they
told
the
vision
and
he
pressed
mayor.
Raleigh
constantly
did
a
wonderful
job
and
I
thank
God
for
him.
I
thank
God
for
seeking
his
name
is
seek
King
and
oh
boy,
he'd
be
a
king,
everybody
he
see
too.
R
R
Now
we
got
this
word
budget
I,
don't
know
how
that
could
pronounce
budget
because
it's
bud
but
and
then
it's
g-e-t
get
now
they're
telling
you
said,
get
the
bud
from
out
of
here
and
the
only
but
I
knew
is
Budweiser
and
that's
just
a
drama
and
that's
what
happened
here
tonight.
A
whole
lot
of
people
got
drunk
because
they
drink
and
drink
and
man
y'all
did
some
entertainment.
R
D
S
Mayor
techlinburg
city
council
I
wanted
to
publicly
thank
you
for
your
support
of
trust
and
wine
and
food,
but
more
so
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
the
reminder
of
what
makes
this
place
so
special
tonight.
I
was
truly
moved
by
the
presentations
this
evening
and
it's
the
people
that
makes
Charleston
so
special.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
service
and
continuing
to
put
us
first
thanks.
Thank.
A
A
D
D
A
The
23
and.
T
B
B
A
Just
want
to
make
that
clear
what
we
voted
on
was
number
one
through
four,
as
is
these
particular
items,
were
not
amended,
correct,
right,
okay,
so
next
up
is
our
approval
of
city
council
minute
from
November
8th
any
additions,
Billings
Corrections,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed.
Now.
Is
our
citizens
participation
period,
And
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
else
signed.
B
B
R
R
R
R
Q
Q
Q
So
what
I'm
stating
to
you
tonight
is
we
want
the
City
of
Charleston
the
layout
for
this
criminal
street
gang
in
terms
of
the
time
they'll
get
in
prison,
the
punishment,
pillies
and
fine
to
be
posted
through
Criterion
methods
with
the
school
districts.
So
our
kids
can
know
they're
given
notice
for
you
proceed
on
them.
Okay,
when
he
notices
from
the
federal
government
and
state
government
on
many
of
these
laws
to
be
posted
in
school
districts,
where
the
majority
of
majority
of
the
children
that
will
face
these
harsh
penalties,
and
that's
my
that's.
Q
B
U
You
I've
been
a
Charleston
County
teacher
for
12
years
and
in
that
time,
I've
always
had
to
work
a
second
job
to
provide
economic
security
for
my
family,
primarily
I've
worked
as
a
pedicab
driver,
riding
Summers
and
weekends,
and
any
vacation
I
could
I
pedicabbed
until
last
year,
when
this
Council
approved
a
bid
to
modestly
expand
the
program,
six
tricycles
six
new
tags
would
be
released.
The
first
increase
in
11
years,
so
in
conjunction
with
other
Riders
I,
signed
up
to
participate.
U
Having
worked
in
the
industry
for
a
combined
23
years,
our
ownership
group
felt
qualified
and
compelled
to
take
on
more
responsibility,
but
more
than
a
year
later,
the
bid
you
approve
has
not
occurred.
The
Economic,
Opportunity,
you
created,
has
turned
into
hardship
for
myself
and
my
partners
as
we
wait
for
this
Council
to
follow
through
on
its
promises.
So
please
hold
the
bid
in
February,
can't
believe
I've
been
here
this
many
times
talking
about
six
tricycles,
where
this
Council
to
delay.
U
B
All
right,
we
did
receive
one
comment:
Patty
Whelan
asked
Council
to
discourage
development
of
large
communities
on
John's
Island.
She
said
developers
had
no
regard
for
the
beauty
of
the
island
and
only
saw
big
dollar
signs
and
those
where
we
did
receive
some
other
comments
that
you
received
info
by
email.
That
was
just
the
only
comment
by
someone
who
did
not
speak
tonight
at
Council,
foreign.
A
Thank
you
all
for
being
with
us
this
evening.
Any
other
comments,
great
so
next
up
is
our
petitions
and
Communications
move
for
approval
appointment.
Second,
to
the
Recreation
Commission
of
Christopher
vetros,
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
odds
have
it
next
is
the
addition
of
two
neighborhood
associations
to
our
neighborhood
Council
gaps
and
neighborhood
association
and
33
Calhoun,
HOA
and
I
meant
to
recognize
all
by
the
way.
So
well,
maybe
someone
Robert
tell
her
tomorrow.
A
Becca
Hopkins
is
our
neighborhood
liaison
and
she
helped
with
the
effort
for
the
Robert
Ballard
award
as
well
from
the
staff
point
of
view
and
helps
manage
all
these
neighborhood
association
relationships
and
I
I
believe
she
does
an
excellent
job
anyway.
Any
discussion
on
the
new
associations
hearing
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposey
eyes.
Have
it
next
Council
communication
councilmember
shade
regarding
overnight
parking
of
trucks
in
the
in
West
Ashley
I'm.
V
Going
to
distribute
to
my
colleagues
some
photographs
I
took
this
is
the
first
set
of
these
large
trucks
that
Park
on
sumar
Street
at
the
Piggly
Wiggly
site,
and
this
is
an
ongoing
regular
occurrence
and
I've
had
some
discussions
with
the
I.
Don't
see
Brooke
anymore,
but
Rick
Giroux
about
this,
and
we
put
up
some
new
signs
which
you'll
see
in
some
of
these
photographs
that
these
trucks
park
overnight
and
I'm
constantly
calling
I'm
either
the
parks
department,
livability
or
our
Police
Department,
to
get
these
things
off
our
property.
V
So
these
18
wheelers
I've
got
a
wonderful
email
to
reflect.
This
is
just
an
ongoing
with
these
large
rigs
are
deciding
to
park
in
West.
Ashley
we've
been
trying
to
revitalize
this
actually,
and
we
have
this
ongoing
problem
and
then
the
last
set
is
Ashley
bowling
lanes
off
of
Sam
riddenberg,
the
State
Department
of
Transportation
thinks
it's
okay
to
park
their
trucks
or
their
moving
equipment.
Sometimes,
on
these
properties,
I
chat
with
Lieutenant
King.
We
have
no
audiences
to
deal
with
us
at
all.
V
This
says:
eyesore
I.
Don't
know
if
it
happens
in
other
parts
of
West
Ashley,
but
what
I'd
like
to
happen
is
some
discussion
about
this
at
our
traffic
Transportation.
If
there's
some
ordinance
that
we
can
pass
to
get
these
things
out
of
out
of
these
lots
that
are
currently
abandoned
are
not
being
used.
Just
get
these
things,
these
big
rigs
out
of
here.
We
don't
need
this.
V
This
is
not
helping
the
violations
of
us.
Actually,
one
of
the
pictures
on
the
Piggly
Wiggly
site
is
a
portable,
on-demand
storage
container.
V
W
V
So
I
would
just
ask
that
perhaps
in
January,
the
next
traffic
Transportation
committee
meetings
that
we
consider
some
ordinances,
if
that's
a
allow
it
for
us,
give
us
some
flexibility
to
force
us
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
a
problem
that
other
council
members
are
experiencing
on
James
Island
or
other
parts
of
West,
Ashley
or
John's
Island
on
Daniel
Island.
But
it's
certainly
an
ongoing
eyesore,
and
these
are
just
a
few
examples.
I've
given
Council.
A
P
What
I
was
just
going
to
say,
we'd
be
happy
to
discuss
it,
and
should
the
committee
decide
to
move
forward
with
it,
we
can
certainly.
A
Let's
ask
Dan
re-showed
to
attend
along
along
with
the
police
department
personnel,
to
get
straight
about
what
our
ordinances
are
for.
18-Wheeler
parking,
but.
V
One
other
thought
may
this
is
not
exactly
part
of
the
same
discussion,
but
there's
been
an
influx
of
homeless
folks
coming
in
into
West
Ashley
and
one
of
the
the
ladies
decided
to
sleep
on
a
sidewalk
right
outside
of
Sandhurst
on
Orange
Grove
Road,
so
I
talked
to
Lieutenant
King
about
this
y'all
may
remember:
we
passed
an
ordinance
dealing
with
people
obstructing
sidewalks
on
downtown
King
Street.
V
V
So
maybe
another
thoughtful
consideration
as
well
that
your
committee
council,
member
Brady,
may
want
to
take
out.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up.
Next
is
our
Council
committee
reports.
First
up
is
Committee
on
Public
Works,
council
member
Waring.
T
I
agree
with
that
on
all
actionable
items:
Mr
Bennett
and
once
that
has
passed
it
passed
unanimously
at
yesterday's
Public
Works
meeting
I
would
respectfully
ask
for
a
shot
presentation
by
Mr
Wesley
Rock
about
delinquent
collections
on
our
stormwater
fees
and
some
other
information.
It
he's
very
adapted
at
explaining
Public
Works
committee
knows
about
it.
The
remainder
of
council
needs
to
be
probably
brought
up
to
speed
right,
but
I
move
approval
to
adoption
of
the
report.
A
V
Still
here,
you'll
notice
on
two
of
these
acceptance
of
dedications
or
right-of-ways
for
two
problems
on
Bowden.
He
has
been
Relentless
and
I
mean
Relentless
in
getting
these
easements,
and
this
is
in
Charleston.
Estates
I
just
wanted
to
give
him
a
big
shout
out
and
approve,
and
thanks
council
member.
We
already
joined
me
as
a
Citizens
meeting
on
Thursday
to
talk
about
pump
stations
and
the
work
that
we're
doing
over
in
Charleston
estate.
V
So
the
same
spot
for
getting
that
is
gonna
have
a
huge
impact
on
approving
the
water
flow
of
stormwater
relief.
You
accompany
one
day
when
we
met
one
of
the
residents
Carl
wolf
over
there
a
couple
years
ago.
That's.
A
For
that
absolutely
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
Mr
Rob
and
if
I
made
comment,
he
made
an
excellent
presentation
to
the
committee.
We've
been
talking
about
this
topic
for
a
while
of
change,
perhaps
changing
the
way
in
which
we
build
our
stormwater
fee,
but
also
enhancing
it
speaking
about
enhancing
fees.
This
is
another
Journey
we're
on
with
our
stormwater
fees.
So
with
that
said,
please
a
synopsis
of
your
report.
X
My
name
is
Wesley
Rupp
I'm,
a
Charleston
Water
Systems
I'm,
the
Chief
Financial
Officer
and
council
members,
wearing's
committee
last
night
had
a
short
presentation.
We
discussed
a
little
bit
about
going
back
to
1995
1996.
The
City
of
Charleston
asked
us
to
start
building
for
storm
water
and
we're
in
the
process
now
of
looking
out
and
changing
our
software.
X
It's
actually
worked
very
well
during
that
time
and
it's
been
successful
program,
but
as
we
go
in
and
change
our
software,
we
map
out
all
our
processes
and
we
started
looking
at
how
we
build
and
how
we
how
the
water
bill
works
is
Whoever
has
the
water
bill
is
in
their
name,
gets
the
storm
water
bill
and
a
lot
of
times
as
a
tenant
versus
a
property
owner,
and
it
works
very
well
if
everybody
pays,
but
sometimes
people
don't,
and
so.
X
If
it's
on
the
tax
bill,
then
you
can
have
a
lien,
and
so
you
can
go
after
the
uncollected
account.
So
we
looked
at
that
and
and
also
that
you
know
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
properties
in
the
City
of
Charleston
that
do
not
have
a
water
bill.
X
The
they
rely
on
and
so
there's
a
big
opportunity
for
expanding
it
beyond
what
we
built
for,
and
that
would
be
what
we
pick
up
the
tax
bill
with
the
properties,
and
so
we
think
it
would
generate
from
our
calculations
over
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
immediately
for
the
city
to
change
that
over
because
the
lineup
bill
it's
done
by
North,
Charleston
Mount
Pleasant.
So
the
county
has
already
set
to
do
it
as
a
pretty
seamless
change
and
we'll
take
us.
X
Councilman
Warehouse
mentioned
that
you
know
the
first
year
will
be
a
little
painful
because
we
built
each
month
and
then
the
tax
bills
in
the
rear.
So
that
would
be
something
that
have
to
maybe
be
financed
the
first
year
from
transition.
X
But
we'll
pick
up
a
lot
of
money
for
the
for
the
city
and
so
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
move
and
we
just
felt
like
we
wanted
to
point
that
out
as
we're
looking
at
our
software
and
mapping
things
out,
that
we
want
to
at
least
a
reach
out
and
tell
you
what
we
saw
so.
T
X
Okay,
the
so
the
city
has
a
really
good
report
by
walpert
engineering
and
they've
We've.
We
actually
work
with
them,
and
so
we
provided
our
data
to
them,
and
so
they
looked
at
the
same
information
and
so
they're
more
of
an
expert
on
stormwater
than
we
are
and
they
feel
like
the
you
have
the
potential
to
get
five
to
six
million
dollars
extra.
X
So
your
current
Billings
are
around
12
million,
so
you're,
looking
at
a
50
increase
in
potential
revenues,
now
they're
doing
more
than
just
a
few
things
they're
looking
at
the
the
strength
of
the
storm
water
and
having
an
adjustment
for
that.
But
it's
very
very
well
done
report
and
I
think
you'll
really
like
it.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
review
it
so
and
any
questions.
T
You
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
and
and
having
the
patience
to
see
how
cool
he
is
he's.
Actually,
the
you
know
that
AAA
credit
rating,
that's
CWS,
has
he's
the
point
person
on
that
he's.
A
wonderful
staff
and
he'll
be
the
first
one
to
tell
you
that,
but
his
leadership
has
been
outstanding
and
the
consistency
with
CWS
having
triple
a
credit
rating
incongruency
with
the
City
of
Charleston.
Thank
you.
Mr
thank.
A
D
N
A
T
A
T
I
I
A
Discussion
on
any
of
those
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
odds
have
it
now
for
the
third
reading
of
those
same
items,
and
we
have
a
second
any
discussion
all
in
paper,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
odds
have
it.
So
next
up
is
number
14
and
do
we
have
a
motion
to
give
that
second
reading
rule
for
approval?
Okay,
any
discussion,
councilmember
Parker.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I,
know,
I
said
a
lot
at
the
first
reading,
but
here's
just
my
final
thought,
gentlemen.
I've
heard
it
time
and
time
again
in
here.
We
do
not
have
to
up
Zone
a
property
okay.
C
C
It
is
a
dangerous
intersection.
We
don't
have
the
infrastructure
there
that's
needed
in
and
around
that
area.
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
I.
Just
also
want
to
I
just
hope
that
everyone's
making
their
decisions
bait
not
based
on
personal
relationships
with
developers
and
or
Engineers,
and
that's
all
I'll
say.
A
A
I'm
sorry
I
couldn't
hear
you.
Okay
did
you
want
to
be
recognized?
Okay,
anyone
else
on
14-15,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
that
was
for
taking
them
together,
oh
to
take
them
together.
Oh
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
getting
ahead
of
you
just
to
take
them
together,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Now
any
discussion
on
the
merits
of
14
and
15.
councilman
born
you.
T
Know
we
had
a
good
hottie
discussion
on
this
last
meeting
and
you
know
to
your
point
about
relationships
with
developers.
T
T
What
we're
trying
to
prevent
is
no
one
in
that
Community
has
seen
what
could
happen
without
city
regulations,
I'll
approval
process
and
our
TRC
process
is
much
more
stringent
in
the
substance
developed
in
the
county.
It's
kind
of
like
you
get
an
accountant
and
the
accountant
comes
up
with
legal
tax
deductions
and
then,
when
you
get
the
tax
bill,
you
still
thought
you
paid
too
much,
but
you
never
saw
what
you
would
have
paid
without
all
those
deductions.
Had
you
not
taken
them?
T
Part
of
this
property
is
in
the
county
and
they
don't
have
a
a
bze
like
ours,
not
like
ours.
I
again,
I
was
on
the
I
thought
about
this.
In
the
aftermath
going
home.
You
know
people
thought
they
weren't
heard
again.
17
years
on
the
Planning,
Commission
and
and
now
11
years
on,
city
council
I
have
never
seen
a
planned
unit.
Development
that
had
eight
or
nine
stipulations
remember
at
planned
unit
development
is
a
custom
zoning.
T
To
begin
with,
you
have
to
put
all
your
information
up
front
before
it's
approved
and
that's
what
these
people
did
and
then
the
Planning
Commission
said
we'll
approve
it,
but
only
if
you
do
these
eight
or
nine
additional
things
which
they
agreed
to
do
now.
If
we
Scuttle
that-
and
this
is
the
portion
that
can
be
developed
in
the
county,
those
eight
or
nine
special
stipulations-
probably
won't
be
it
or
let's
say
they
sold
it
to
somebody
else
and
it
developed
in
the
county.
T
They
wouldn't
even
come
in
this
room,
we
wouldn't
have
a
say,
so
we
wouldn't
have
a
vote
on
that
portion
so
that
that
part
of
some
of
the
concessions
that's
already
been
made.
T
I
would
hate
to
see
that
happen
in
another
jurisdiction
and
we
could
have
done
something
about
it.
So
that's
the
part
that
I
would
like
to
point
up.
We
haven't
seen
what
could
happen,
but
for
our
regulations
and
we
just
kind
of
cast
off
when
I
say
we
I
understand
some
of
the
people
when
they
come
to
public
hearing
when
they
ask
for
two
or
three
things
that
they
don't
get
everything
they
asked
for,
but
they're
not
considering
are
considerate
of
those
exceptions
that
the
Planning
Commission
required
and
the
city
council
said.
T
W
District
one
is
largely
a
planned
unit,
development
and
I.
Think
I
I've
seen
the
good
and
the
bad
that's
associated
with
that.
The
good
is
that
we
kind
of
get
some
of
these
things
ironed
out
on
the
front
end.
It's
bad
is
that
you
know
Mr
Lincoln
was
in
here
not
too
many
months
ago,
and
Mr
Lincoln
had
his
way
of
life
disrupted
by
this
hood
and
and
I
see
a
lot
of
parallels
between
what
happened
with
the
Jack
promise
community
and
what
we're
talking
about
here.
W
We
heard
loud
and
clear
from
the
citizens
of
that
community
and
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
listen,
I,
think
they're,
asking
for
not
having
an
end
down
the
street
from
their
properties,
and
so
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
vote
against
this,
because
that's
what
I
heard
from
them.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
Thank
you
Mr
Mayor.
Thank.
N
You
council,
member,
seeking
thank
you
Mr
Mayor,
so
after
our
last
meeting,
I
actually
went
out
to
this
property
and
I
went
there
again
today
and
I
was
taken
by
the
comments
that
were
made
by
the
citizens
who
live
in
that
Community
I'd
never
actually
been
back
down
those
roads.
N
It's
a
residential
Community,
it's
a
residence
Community,
it's
been
there
for
a
long
time
and
they,
like
everybody
else
who
lives
in
a
residential
Community,
relies
on,
among
other
things,
through
zoning,
not
just
where
they
live,
but
around
them-
and
you
know,
I
have
a
saying
you've
heard
me
say
it
around
here
before
zoning
is
Forever
Until,
It,
Isn't,
and
one
of
the
questions
that
was
asked
in
our
last
city
council.
N
Meeting
that
struck
me
as
I
was
leaving
and
struck
me
ever
since,
is
what
is
better
for
that
community
in
terms
of
the
options
under
the
current
zoning,
as
opposed
to
the
put
and
unless
I'm
missing
something
Mr
Morgan's.
Not
here,
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
talk
to
him
today,
but
I
think
that
the
two
differences
is
one
less
hotel
rooms,
but
still
hotel
rooms
10,
as
opposed
to
20.
N
and
more
houses
by
a
factor
of
three
and
the
citizens
who
came
out
and
took
their
time
to
come
out
not
just
to
talk
to
us
but
to
Planning
Commission
said
we
get
it.
We're
not
opposed
to
development.
We
just
like
more
residential
and
less
commercial
and
and
in
in
the
instance
where
we're
sitting
here
today,
I
hear
you
on
the
on
the
pub
and
the
technical
aspects.
It
was
a
really
good
conversation
about
that.
Last
time.
We've
had
a
lot
of
puts
come
through
here.
N
I
think
that
they
do
help
on
the
front
end,
so
you
can
understand
stormwater
regulation,
all
the
work
that
was
done
out
there,
but
in
the
end
the
zoning
is
owned
by
the
people
in
that
community,
and
they
asked
us
not
to
do
this.
They
asked
us
to
allow
the
zoning
that's
in
there,
because
zoning
is
Forever,
Until
It
Isn't.
N
We
voted
to
change
it
and
it
really
struck
me
today,
as
I
went
down
that
you,
you
remember
the
gentleman
who
came
and
said:
I
live
on
the
back
side
of
this
proposed
community
and
my
driveway
I
drove
down
that
driveway
today
I
encourage
you
all
to
go
out
there
and
do
it
and
take
a
look
around
there.
His
way
of
life
is
going
to
change
forever,
I
get
that,
but
I
mean
dramatically
and
I
think
that
they
should
have
some
saying
and
they're
saying
their
request
to
us
was
just
leave.
N
It
alone,
leave
it
alone
and
and
so
I
I'm
gonna
vote
against
this
PUD
too,
not
because
I
don't
think
puds
are
really
good
planning
devices.
Nor
do
I
not
think
that
this
was
well
thought
out
by
our
Planning
Commission
and
the
property
owner,
but
the
property
owner
bought
this
property,
knowing
what
the
zoning
was
on
it.
The
people
have
lived
there
for
Generations
have
lived
around
there,
knowing
what
the
zoning
is
on
it
and
around
them.
We're
now
calling
balls
and
Strikes
on
that.
N
That's
out,
there
still
can
be
developed,
we're
not
hurting
in
any
large
regard
the
efficacy
of
our
stormwater
requirements,
which
are
still
going
to
be
required
out
there
I,
don't
know
whether
or
not
the
property
owner
would
still
want
to
Annex
in
without
the
Pud
I
don't
know,
but
I
would
encourage
you
all
to
go
out
there
and
if
you
haven't
physically
been
boots
on
the
ground
out
there
and
and
listen
in
your
mind,
the
requests
of
that
community
and
what
they
asked
us,
but
not,
and
that
was
just
to
leave
it
alone
and
and
let
the
zoning
that
they've
lived
with
and
relied
on
for
generations
to
to
move
forward.
N
So
I'm
gonna
vote
no
for
second
reading
I
would
encourage
us
to
not
give
it
30
tonight,
but
leave
leave
you
all
some
time
to
go
out
there
if
you've
got
some
time
to
do
it.
Take
a
look
around.
N
It
is
a
residential
Community
for
sure
it
is
and
and
those
vices
I
asked
Jennifer.
Actually,
if
the
minutes
are
ready,
if
you
reminded
me
that
we
still
make
them
do
verbatim
minutes,
so
we
have
to
think
about
that
by
the
way
in
our
rules
committee
going
forward,
but
I
went
and
watched
the
the
video
and
there
was
a
cry
from
that
community.
That
said,
look
leave
it
alone
and
and
that's
their
zoning.
It's
theirs
and
let's
not
take
it
away
from
them.
C
You
and
thank
you,
council,
member
seekings,
council,
member
Greg,
thank
you,
you
put
it
much
more
eloquently
than
I
can
but
councilmember
Waring.
Just
to
your
point,
the
parcel
that's
in
the
county
they
do
have.
You
know
that
falls
in
the
rethink,
Folly
Road
overlay.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
guardrails
there
as
well.
C
If
and
when
it
stayed
in
in
the
county,
so
there
will
be
regulations.
You
know
we
I
understand
and
the
community
understood
as
well.
Yeah.
A
Oh
okay,
we
need
a
motion
to
approve
or
disapprove
or
whatever.
P
That's
the
point
where
there
is
a
motion
on
the
floor
for
second
reading,
because,
if
it
passes,
we
would
then
need
the
motion
in
second
quarter
at
the
third
right
and
so
the
council
for
seekings.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
a
separate
motion.
It'll
go
through
this
vote
and
then,
if
it
needs
to
move
to
third,
that's
up
to
council
just.
B
D
L
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
deny
approval.
Do
we
have
a
second
any
discussion
on
a
motion
to
deny
council
member
seekings
all
in
favor
to
deny
approval?
Please
say:
aye
any
opposed,
no
and.
B
Y
B
A
A
Y
Sir
council
members
Sacrament
thank
you
mayor
I've
supported
this
first
and
second
reading,
but
I
would
like
to
give
us
some
time
to
to
councilman
seeking's
Point
I
would
like
to
actually
go
out
there
and
take
a
drive.
Is
there
a
rush
to
get
this
done
tonight?
I'm,
not
sure,
but
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
go
out
there
at
some
point.
This
week,
speak
with
with
councilwoman
I
think
you
made
some
valid
points,
I'd
like
to
have
the
time
to
do
some
due
diligence
on
my
end.
Y
So
I
wouldn't
request
this
not
to
take
third
reading
tonight.
Okay,.
V
T
I
agree
with
that:
listen
I'll
go
to
the
thrill,
but
I
think
everybody
around
Council
needs
to
know.
You
can't
make
any
changes
on
third
reading.
T
N
A
All
right,
all
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
defer,
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it.
Okay,
so
I
won't
sign
those
two
we're
gonna,
wait
on
those
and
you
know
I
think
that's
it.
We
ended
up
not
needing
to
come
to
you
with
the
executive
session.
A
And
is
there
any
further
business
to
come
before
us
tonight.