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From YouTube: City of Charleston Council Meeting - December 4, 2018
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City of Charleston Council Meeting - December 4, 2018
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Thank
everybody's
been
here
from
before,
but
just
in
case,
these
are
our
exits
out
of
the
room
and
there's
an
exit
door
over
to
my
right.
In
the
event
we
had
to
leave
on
short
notice
or
unexpectedly,
please
do
not
use
the
elevator
but
use
the
two
stairs
going
down
and
then
the
one
stair
out
the
front
very
unlikely,
but
just
in
case
there
were
a
reason
to
evacuate
the
building.
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I
do
want
to
again
I
know
it's
just
been
a
week
since
our
meeting
last
week
and
my
mother
had
already
passed,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
again
all
the
council,
members
and
citizens
who
offered
their
prayers
and
condolences
and
and
came
to
the
services,
and
thank
you
very
much.
It
really
meant
a
lot.
Thank
you.
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So
we
do
not
have
any
presentations
or
recognitions
this
evening
other
than
that,
and
so
we're
going
to
move
right
to
our
public
hearings,
and
you
all
heard
us
talk
a
long
time
about
about
these
budgets
and
now's
your
opportunity.
If
you'd
like
to
share
with
us-
and
as
you
heard
us
mention
and
Ways
and
Means
Committee
there,
the
readings
we
are
giving
tonight
are
just
first
readings,
and
so
changes
can
be
made
at
second
and
third
reading.
So
your
your
comments
will
be
heard
and
considered.
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So
our
first
public
hearing
is
on
the
an
ordinance
providing
distribution
of
funds
of
fiscal
year,
2018
generated
by
the
municipal,
accommodations
fee
and
might
I
suggest
since
number
two
is
also
regarding
municipal
accommodations
fee,
but
for
this
year
that
we
take
one
and
two
together
and
I.
Ask
that
if
anyone
has
any
comments
they
would
like
to
make
about
the
municipal
accommodations
fee.
Now
it's
your
opportunity.
Please
come
forward
a
limit
of
two
minutes
per
speaker.
Please
and
mayor.
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Name
is
Angela
Mac
and
I'm
executive
director
of
the
Gibbs
Museum
of
Art
and
I
just
want
to
extend
my
thanks
to
mayor
tuck
Lindbergh
and
this
wonderful
body
for
restoring
the
twenty
thousand
dollars
from
the
2018,
a
tax
surplus
for
our
2019
allocation.
The
Gibbs
has
been
a
strong
partner
of
the
city
for
a
long
time.
F
We
bring
since
1905
when
the
city
built
the
Gibbs
and
asked
the
Carolina
Art
Association
to
be
a
50%
owner
in
that
building
and
since
2009,
that
relationship
has
been
codified
and
this
body
has
been
very
supportive
of
what
we're
doing.
We
hope
that
that
special
relationship
will
continue
as
we
go
forward
and
as
I
sit
in
this
room,
because
we
actually
helped
to
do
the
redesign
of
this
space
and
the
artwork
that
you
see.
We
spearheaded
it.
We
redesigned
it
and
we
implemented
it.
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These
items
are
the
assumptions
of
the
mean
municipal
accommodations
fee,
and
these
are
more
capital
project
items
that
that
we
also
proved
earlier,
but
a
different,
different
fun.
Okay,
any
further
clarification
are
questions
needed
comments
all
in
favor
of
one
and
two,
please
say
Aye
and
oppose
the
ice
habit.
Next
is
our
general
fund
both
budget,
both
liabilities
and
revenue?
If
anybody
would
like
to
be
heard
on
on
on
either
of
those,
please
come
forward.
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Mayor
Totenberg
city,
council
'it's,
it's
been
a
while
since
I've
had
the
honor
of
addressing
y'all
and
remember
some
older
faces
here:
councilman
white
Lois,
Mitchell,
Gregory,
Waring,
not-so,
Sea
Kings
and
the
younger
members
I
apologize
for
not
having
your
names
on
the
tip
of
my
tongue
record.
Please
state
your
name
in
address
and
I'm
Zack
Simmons
I'm,
a
lifelong
downtown
resident
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
a
pianist
and
a
philosopher
have
a
lot
in
common
as
a
pianist
good
pianist
can
improvise.
So
can
a
philosopher
strike
a
chord
in
a
thought
process.
H
So
I
hope
to
do
that
today.
I'm
also
on
the
board
of
directors
of
an
organization
called
no
home
tax
org
and
our
philosophy
is
that
freedom
to
own
your
home
is
an
illusion.
Much
like
Plato's
allegory
of
the
cave
and
as
long
as
you
pay
taxes,
you're
renting
from
the
government,
and
you
have
a
mortgage
that
can
never
be
paid
off
twelve
years
ago.
No
home
tax,
org
and
others
got
involved,
and
we
had
a
referendum
and
in
the
state
and
got
50%
of
our
property
taxes
lifted
off.
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So
whatever
you
pay
now
would
have
been
double
the
property
tax
is
probably
the
most
hated
tax
secondary
to
the
death
tax.
It's
unfair
that
it
has
no
relation
to
your
ability
to
pay.
If
you
live
in
a
home
that
you
bought
very
modestly
and
land
values
go
up
and
your
income
doesn't
follow,
you
can
get
tax
out
of
your
home.
H
It's
also
a
recovering
college.
Professor
I
taught
psychology
I'm
a
retired,
physician
and
property
taxes,
bad
psychology
because
in
essence,
you're
punishing
good
behavior.
If
you
improve
your
home
and
your
home
value
goes
up,
you
pay
more
taxes,
it's
bad
from
a
medical
standpoint.
It's
if
you
move
old
people
out
of
their
homes,
they
don't
do
well.
There.
Life
expectancy
goes
down
and
it's
bad
policy
and
that
you're
creating
a
gentle,
more
gentrification,
remember
the
Eastside.
When
families
lives
there.
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H
I
I
So
I
would
like
to
applaud
the
conversation.
I
heard
it
around
the
table
this
morning,
I
absolutely
needed.
It's
been
needed
for
a
long
time.
I'm
sure
the
workers
appreciate
that
the
movement
in
in
the
right
direction,
unfortunately
I
believe
we've
salve
around
the
table
some
time
and
passed
the
historic
opportunity
to
do
the
right
thing.
I
This
is
one
of
those
times.
I
think
that
we
are
on
the
right
path,
but
we
hadn't
reached
the
right
level.
Our
neighbors
to
the
north
found
a
way
to
do
it.
They're
gonna,
be
there
in
the
fiscal
year
I
challenge
discount.
We
have
the
smarts
we
have.
The
world
seems
around
this
table
now.
Why
don't
I
play
around
with
it?
We
should
keep
up
no
I
catch
up
the
collateral
damage
it
does
to
families
when
you
have
to
bring
them
up.
I
The
set
of
keeping
their
mouth
is
enormous,
so
I
applaud
you,
but
I
urge
you
to
take
this
real
opportunity
to
be
on
the
right
side
of
history.
We
allow
identification
to
get
to
a
point
where
we
have
to
try
to
make
up
for
it.
Don't
allow
us
through
lag
behind
this
issue.
I'll
pay
people
coming
to
the
city
enjoy
our
smiling
faces
when
we
serve
them
just
make
those
smiles
for
real,
so
the
people
that's
doing
the
work.
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J
You
got
problems
with
this.
If
you
go
to
15
you're
losing
your
minds,
what
happens
when
everybody
gets
paid
$15
now
what
happened?
Those
poor
people
that
worked
their
way
up
that
high
all
of
a
sudden,
everybody
wants
more
money.
Okay,
it's
a
domino
effect
for
those
of
you
that
haven't
been
paying
attention.
J
Other
things
you
missed,
you
know
four
percent
right,
someone
said
Brent,
so
gonna
go
up
what
about
the
vehicles?
There
are
six
percent
of
sessemann.
What
about?
If
you
have
a
luxury
item
like
a
boat?
Okay,
that's
a
ten
percent
of
a
system.
You've
got
to
really
look
at
what
you're
doing
fifteen
dollars
is
ridiculous.
J
On
top
of
that,
most
people.
Remember
me:
following
around
the
storm
drainage
factor
truck
for
two
hours,
getting
a
tour
of
the
city,
there's
no
accountability!
You
guys
need
to
figure
out
how
to
write
a
fitness
report.
That's
what
we
call
them
in
the
military
on
people,
and
you
know
it's
either
up
or
out
you
just
can't
throw
money
at
people.
You're
gonna
end
up
with
a
bunch
of
no-good
people
that
are
just
gonna
sit
around.
J
Do
the
least
amount
they
can
and
if
you
don't
give
them
some
sort
of
report
on
what
they're
doing
they're
just
gonna
do
to
lay
at
least
amount
just
to
keep
the
Dare
and
then
it's
you
know
how
hard
is
it
to
fire?
Somebody
in
government,
you
know
I,
think
government.
Everybody
ought
to
be
wiped
clean
every
five
years
and
start
over
with
new
people.
At
least
you
get
some
people
that
would
want
to
do
their
jobs
and
I'm
gonna.
J
K
Thank
you,
I'm
Katie,
Zimmerman
executive
director
of
Charleston
moves
also
a
resident
of
the
city
of
Charleston
I'm,
also
a
member
of
the
city
of
Charleston
bicycle
and
pedestrian
Advisory
Committee.
There
are
about
four
other
members
that
were
here.
They
had
to
leave.
I,
don't
have
kids,
so
I
don't
have
to
go
anywhere
I.
Thank
you
all
again.
K
You
heard
me
say
this
last
week
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate:
what's
really
important,
to
get
back
in
the
budget,
however,
you
can
figure
it
out,
even
if
it
means
waiting
to
see
how
the
surplus
goes
and
if
we
can
put
it
in
that
way.
However,
you
can
do
it
if
we
can
get
on
the
books
get
ready
to
hire
a
mobility
manager.
That
would
be
wonderful.
It's
in
the
the
memo
that
the
bike
ped
Advisory
Committee,
presented
to
the
traffic
and
transportation.
K
That
was
one
of
the
items
that
that
we
did
ask
for
it's
vital
because
we
are
leading
the
state
in
bike
and
pedestrian
fatalities
and
serious
injuries.
As
you
all
know-
and
this
is
the
way
that
we
can
have
an
actual
staff
member-
so
less
contracting
out
less
worrying
about
spending
extra
money
on
getting
these
bike,
ped
projects
designed
in-house
and
and
shepherding
them
through
the
process.
K
A
specific
example
that
I
can
give
you
is:
we've
been
hearing
for
a
long
time
at
Charleston
moves
about
Rutledge,
Avenue
and
how
dangerous
it
is,
and
what
can
we
do
about
Rutledge
Avenue
and
we've
been
going
back
and
forth.
We
met
with
the
district
d-o-t,
they
told
us.
If
you
can
come
up
with
a
design
for
this,
then
maybe
we
can
insert
it
into
a
resurfacing
program
and
cover
the
cost.
K
We
don't
have
somebody
on
staff
to
handle
the
design,
because
everybody's
overworked,
so
a
mobility
manager
would
be
ideal
to
help
Shepherd
this
through
the
process
and
save
some
lives.
That's
just
one
example
of
many
many
many
and
you
all
have
your
own
examples
as
well.
So
thank
you.
So
much
and
I
appreciate
all
of
your
discussions
night.
Thank.
L
Good
evening,
Leah
Farrell
with
the
Preservation
Society
of
Charleston,
so
in
reviewing
the
draft
2019
plan,
much
like
the
discussion
council
had
here
earlier
tonight
during
Ways
and
Means,
we
would
like
to
emphasize
the
critical
need
for
sufficient
city
staffing
to
accomplish
the
goals
that
the
community
has
agreed
to.
We
have
planned
West
Ashley.
We
have
the
Jones
Island
Community
Plan.
Now
we
have
the
new
citywide
transportation
plan.
These
are
just
a
few.
We
would
encourage
you
to
speak
with
the
directors
of
these
departments,
specifically
planning
and
preservation,
traffic
and
transportation.
L
You
know
these
entities
are
responsible
for
shaping
the
built
environment
of
our
city,
they're
tasked
with
implementing
these
plans.
I'm
sure.
If
you
spoke
to
them,
they
would
explain.
You
know
the
staffing
needs
that
they
have
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
it's
adequately
funded,
because
if
not,
you
know
executed
at
two
jorts,
and
these
are
just
plans
collecting
dust
on
the
shelf.
L
And
lastly,
we
would
like
to
mention
that,
with
regard
to
the
critical
flooding
infrastructure
that
we
know
has
been
coming
up
time
and
time
again,
some
of
these
priority
projects
like
Callan
West,
the
low
battery
seawall.
We
would
like
to
see
you
know
where
there's
already
been
movement
made,
that
these
projects
get
protected
in
budget
moving
forward
and
relating
to
that
the
storm
water
management
department
that
we
just
you
know
the
City
Council
just
created
I,
know
that
you
know
this
was
sort
of
in
tandem
with
city
budget.
L
M
Good
evening,
everyone
I'm
Lance
Davis,
a
property
in
Charleston
and
Mount
Pleasant
addresses
I,
just
like
to
echo
mr.
Zimmerman's
comments
about
the
mobility
manager.
Just
I'm,
an
avid
cyclist
do
about
5,000
miles
a
year
of
commute
cycling
and
so
I've
traveled.
All
these
streets
daytime
nighttime
getting
to
work
at
Roper
hospital
I'm.
A
physician
when
you
look
at
other
cities
are
a
little
ahead
of
us
in
terms
of
that
type
of
Transportation.
What
you
see
is
is
well-planned
bicycle
access
and
you
see
people
using
them.
M
You
also
see
an
economy
developing
with
the
immediate
rental
bikes
and
the
bike
shops,
and
so
there
is
a
little
return
there
and
you
also
see
happy
tourists
with
that
environment.
So
I
think
it
does
speak
to
anything
that
we
can
do
to
improve.
The
safety
of
non
vehicular
or
transportation
is
incumbent
on
us
and
a
little
tie-in
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
passing
the
plastic
bag
ban
and
during
those
five
thousand
miles
a
year,
I've
done
I
picked
up
thousands
of
bags.
M
N
Bergin
to
you,
members
of
City,
Council
I,
was
here
last
week
talking
about
overworked
and
underpaid
I.
Once
myself
was
over
working
on
the
page,
without
teachers,
the
teachers
was
not
good
enough
to
get
a
decent
wage.
We
got
five
minutes
work,
not
good
enough
to
get
a
decent
thing.
Police
is
not
good
enough
to
get
teaching
away.
Waitress
hoses
dishwasher
housekeeper,
they
love
their
job.
That's
why
they
got
it.
It's
not
because
they
don't
have
any
education
because
they
like
what
they're
doing
and
because
they'd
like
what
they
enjoy.
N
We
as
a
people
should
not
look
down
on
them
and
say
they're.
Nobody.
They
don't
need
money,
they
can.
Even
the
wages
are
going
up.
The
apartments
are
going
up.
The
medical
bills
went
up,
but
not
wages.
Why
not
give
them
the
good
wages,
so
we
can
have
them
to
live
as
comfortable
as
we
build
a
living
when
they
build
these
high
apartment.
It's
thirty!
Five
thousand
dollars
to
rent
an
apartment,
students
get
not
a
rental
apartment,
elantris,
three
or
forty.
N
C
O
To
minute
mr.
Muir,
yes
sure
what
a
privilege,
if
you
will
I
just
want
to
recognize,
Lana,
trolley,
I,
didn't
know
he's
gonna
be
here
today.
Could
you
please
stand?
He
was
the
gentleman
years
ago
at
the
gateway
coming
in
to
Ashley
ville,
where
the
first
two
houses
of
fortable
houses
of
being
built.
He
worked
with
the
city,
sold
the
property,
and
now
you're
gonna
have
a
permanent
housing
for
a
Florida
boy
house,
and
he
was
one
of
the
first
persons
that
step
float
and
was
willing
to
sell
his
lot.
C
P
C
And
next
is
a
ordinance
authorizing
the
mayor
to
execute
on
behalf
city
of
Charleston
development
agreement.
It's
a
modification
between
the
city
and
1776
LLC
governing
the
development
of
properties
owned
by
them
on
John's
Island,
which
we
having
a
public
hearing
on
it
first,
which
makes
possible
a
donation
of
land
to
the
city
Charleston
for
the
north
pitch.
For
would
anyone
like
to
be
heard
on
this
matter.
Q
This
development
agreement
goes
with
a
PUD
amendment,
which
will
be
heard
on
December
18th
and
the
public
hearing
on
the
development
agreement
needed
30
days
notice
and
even
though
that
got
moved
this
couldn't
be
moved.
So
we
need
to
get
possible
have
second
reading
and
third
reading
on
the
18th
with
the
PUD
amendment.
So
this
would
just
be
a
public
hearing
if
it's
cancels
wish
and
the
development
occurred.
We.
Q
B
Q
C
E
C
C
S
Susan
Lyons
I
live
on
Gaston
Street,
downtown
I
am
speaking
to
you,
both
foregrounds
grassroots
organization
and
for
myself,
I've
been
coming
to
council
meetings
for
months,
hoping
to
hear
that
the
city
would
at
long
last,
face
our
flooding
problem
honestly
and
take
appropriate
action.
This
has
not
happened
and
I
cannot
for
the
life
of
me
understand.
Why
not?
Do
you
not
believe
that
floods
from
storms
and
high
tides
are
eating
away
at
our
infrastructure
and
our
way
of
life?
Do
you
not
think
that
this
is
going
to
worsen?
S
Do
you
not
care
what
happens
to
the
city
of
Charleston,
or
do
you
simply
lack
the
political
will
to
unite
in
the
face
of
this
crisis?
I
am
told
on
good
authority
that
quite
soon
coastal
cities
that
are
not
aggressively
responding
to
their
flooding
problems
will
be
passed
over
by
those
on
Wall
Street,
who
issue
bonds
in
favor
of
cities
that
are
acting
more
responsibly.
S
S
T
My
name
is
Margaret
Puri
and
I
live
on
Halsey
Street
I'm,
here
to
speak
in
support
of
funding
for
two
critical
flooding
mitigation
projects
that
are
on
your
agenda
for
tonight.
The
first
is
the
Calhoun
West
drainage
project
and
the
second
is
the
low
battery
seawall
project.
It's
my
understanding
that
the
exit
shaft
at
st.
Philip's
and
st.
and
Morris
tree
or
a
crucial
element
of
the
Calhoun
Westridge
improvement
project.
T
There
is
a
narrow
window
of
time
to
get
the
shaft
funded,
designed
and
constructed
before
the
property
is
built
before
the
property
is
built
on
which
will
kill.
The
project.
I
would
consider
failure
to
fund
these
two
projects,
an
abdication
of
the
city's
responsibility
to
protect
the
lives
and
to
provide
a
safe
living
environment
for
its
inhabitants.
I
have
a
I
have
lived
on
Halsey
Street
for
six
years
and
over
this
time,
I
have
watched
the
flooding
increase
from
three
to
four
times
a
year
to
once
or
twice
a
month.
T
T
Flooding
has
affected
my
ability
to
sell
my
home
and
the
value
of
my
home
I'm,
not
sure
I'll
ever
be
able
to
sell
it.
One
person
came
four
times
and,
and
she
before
she
finally
told
her
agent,
that
she
just
couldn't
buy
it,
because
she
couldn't
deal
with
the
idea
of
waist-high
water
surrounding
her
home.
Nine
I
just
put
the
house
back
on
the
market
and
I
was
scheduled
to
be
shown
in
last
Saturday
and
I
straight
was
flooded
and
they
cancelled
9.
D
T
U
The
wall
was
being
patched
and
it
struck
me
as
being
odd
because
I
remember
Jacob
Lindsey,
giving
a
beautiful
presentation
of
a
seawall
this
time
last
year
and
a
beautiful
conversation
was
being
held
by
all
of
you
about
a
seawall
this
time
last
year
and
it
was
supposed
to
have
started
and
I
haven't
heard
or
seen
anything
about
the
seawall.
Since
I've
heard
rumors
that
it's
been
delayed,
I've
heard
that
it's
been,
the
amount
has
come
in
at
a
different
I
mean
just
rumors,
truly
rumors
and
grounds
fell.
U
We
don't
know-
and
we
were
talking
about
it
just
at
our
meeting
last
night.
What
is
the
status
of
that
particular
seawall
and
if
there
is
no
status
on
it?
We
should
know
as
responsible
stewards
of
this
city
and
if
there
is
a
temporary
measure,
that's
being
planned.
We
should
know
as
being
stewards
of
us,
your
taxpayers,
so
I
emphasize
you
have
two
things
on
the
map
on
the
agenda.
U
Calhoun
west
is
something
that
is
very
important,
even
though
I
know
we
just
had
an
unknown
entity
talking
about
the
Fishburne
spring
pump
station,
but
Calhoun
West
is
very
important
and
I
hope
that
that
does
go
forward
and
the
seawall.
What
is
the
status?
What's
the
quandary
that
beautiful
presentation,
everybody
was
gung
ho
it
was
a
priority.
Well,
the
flooding
was
a
priority
number
one.
Just
a
reminder.
Thank.
U
B
V
Good
evening,
mayor,
City,
Council
I'm,
here
to
speak
on
something
that
hadn't
been
heard.
Yet
it's
the
next
item
on
your
agenda.
The
short-term
rental
ordinance
update
from
the
legal
department
and
the
Planning
Department
and
I
just
like
to
say
that
I
want
to
thank
the
council
and
their
wisdom
back
in
I
think
it
was
October
when
there
was
a
proposal
to
to
change
the
the
ordinance
we
thought
prematurely
and
the
idea
for
the
the
two
departments
of
the
city
to
come
together
and
kind
of
consider.
V
Some
of
the
issues
that
councilman
Waring
was
bringing
up.
And
we
just
like
to
say
we
what
we've
been
hearing.
Some
really
exciting
things
about
the
enforcement
measures
that
are
going
on
how
the
violation
and
prosecution
process
is
working
in
the
court
and
that
the
data
is
all
very
positive.
And
so
I
just
want
to
emphasize
again
the
importance
of
continuing
to
collect
that
data,
to
evaluate
the
the
efficiency
and
an
effectiveness
rather
of
the
ordinance,
and
to
really
be
very
careful
about
making
amendments
too.
V
Soon,
when
when
this
is
a
fairly
new
operation
that
we
have
here
in
the
department
of
livability
and
I,
just
want
to
say
thanks
again
thanks
to
the
city
departments
that
are
looking
at
this
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
an
exciting
report
from
them,
and
we
just
want
to
stay
vigilant
on
this
issue,
because
we
think
it's
extremely
important
to
the
livability
of
our
community.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
W
Council,
thank
you
for
everything
that
you
do
and
it's
always
amazing
to
sit
in
and
listen
and
hear
all
the
things
that
you
deliberate
on
for
the
benefit
of
our
city.
So
much
appreciate
it
and
and
sitting
here
recently
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks
and
hearing
you
look
at
the
budget
and
look
at
all
the
things
that
you
need
to
address
for
our
city,
totally
respect
that
and
appreciate
that
what
I
would
like
to
chat
with
you
about
tonight
briefly,
is.
W
While
you
deliberate
on
the
budget
for
next
year
and
the
mayor
that,
in
looking
at
Charleston
Sister
Cities
International,
we
were
able
to
basically
start
our
program
and
launch
at
the
beginning
of
last
year
and
the
grant
money
that
we
received
from
you
last
year
with
the
community
assistance
was
used
for
a
trade
mission
to
Panama,
which
we
did
successfully
this
year.
That
should
add
business
and
value
and
revenue
streams
to
our
community
in
our
state.
W
He
went
directly
to
Panama,
where
he
sat
down
with
the
president
of
Panama
and
19
projects
into
reality
that
deal
with
infrastructure,
building
education,
cultural
exchanges,
etc,
and
there
there
is
certainly
a
concern
in
Panama,
as
we
were
told
in
our
delegation
by
the
US
Embassy
and
panamanians,
that
with
Panama
on
their
right
to
do
business
with
China,
that's
totally
respected,
but
that
you
know
there
needs
to
be
some
transparency.
There,
Mike
Pompeo,
flew
in
the
last
day
of
our
trade
mission
to
caution
Panama
about
doing
business
with
China.
W
Our
efforts
next
year
with
sister
cities,
will
complement
all
of
the
initiatives
that
China
is
getting
ready
to
implement
in
our
backyard
in
Panama
and
the
Panama
Canal.
So
sister
cities
do
add
value
and
they
do
help
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
next
year.
You
have
a
list
of
our
future
upcoming
sister
cities,
so
I
hope
that
when
you're
doing
the
budget,
you
also
think
about
how
well
we've
used
your
finances
this
year.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
C
On
proceed,
good.
X
X
We
are
very
supportive
of
and
encouraged
by,
this
body's
commitment
to
addressing
issues
related
to
flooding
and
drainage
in
our
community
and
we're
appreciative
of
you
continuing
to
prioritize
that
work.
I'm
here
tonight
to
express
our
support,
in
particular
for
your
funding
and
implementation
of
the
low-battery
seawall
and
the
Calhoun
West
initiatives.
X
We
want
to
continue
to
work
with
you
on
the
advancement
of
those
two
projects
in
particular,
but,
as
we
all
know,
water
knows
No
Boundaries
and
we
are
also
supportive
of
your
work
in
prioritization
of
funding
and
drainage
and
renewal
resilience
initiatives
across
the
city
of
Charleston,
not
just
on
the
peninsula,
so
I
look
forward
to
getting
to
know
and
work
with
each
and
every
one
of
you
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
for
your
time.
Thank.
C
J
Wouldn't
Margaret
Thatcher
turn
when
Churchill
said
Dicky,
no
great
socialism
great
to
you,
run
out
of
other
people's
money,
and
you
folks
seemed
a
lot
of.
You
seem
to
embrace
that
couple
more
things
number
one.
Are
you
trying
to
become
a
nanny
City
I
mean
I,
look
at
people
to
stand
up
here
and
say
they
don't
know
what's
going
on
with
the
wall
and
was
that
source
up?
J
Does
they
not
I
mean
do
I
need
to
go
change
their
diaper,
that
they
can't
call
their
City,
Councilman
or
call
the
city
and
ask
you
know
what's
going
on,
although
you
know
used
to
be,
you
ended
up
with
a
recording
at
City,
but
now
you
get
to
talk
to
somebody
which
is
nice
so
back
to
the
other
items.
How
do
you
I'm
really
concerned?
You
have
a
twenty
five
percent
budget
overrun
on
a
project
and
you
just
now
I
now
finding
out
about
it.
J
I
think
you
know
I
think
you
need
to
talk
to
your
engineers.
I
think
maybe
tin
you
granted.
It
may
have
been
done
ten
years
ago,
but
things
have
gotten
better
they've
gotten
less
expensive.
To
do
these
things.
Why
would
there
be
a
25%
increase
somebody's,
not
watching
or
either
that
you
got
the
wolf
guarding
the
henhouse,
which
is
not
unusual?
So
you
know
it's
important
that
you
understand
you're,
raising
taxes
and
there's
no
reason
to
I
was
looking
at
your
budget.
I
just
looked
at
it.
J
C
Thank
you,
sir.
Was
there
anyone
else
we
missed
well.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
your
comments
this
evening.
I
would
share
with
counsel
also
from
our
Standard
&
Poor's
report,
that
assigned
at
Charleston
a
triple-a
credit
rating
on
our
borrowing
that
they
in
fact
recognized
our
proactive,
addressing
sea
level
rise,
natural
disasters
and
flooding
and
the
establishment
of
our
resiliency
division
and
other
implementation.
Other
initiatives,
like
our
buyout
program
for
properties
from
flooding,
is
all
in
the
standard,
pour
report
and
is
working
with
partners
even
on
historical
homes.
C
So
I'll
quote
it
says,
given
the
city's
significant
exposure
to
flood
risk,
we
view
this
as
a
proactive
approach
to
address
these
risks
and
a
credit
positive.
So
in
fact,
Standard
&
Poor's
gave
us
credit
and
that
helped
them
in
their
triple-a
bond
rating
for
the
city
all
right.
So
next
is
our
petitions
and
communications.
We
have
an
update
from
legal
and
planning
regarding
a
short-term
rental
ordinance,
so
mr.
Lindsay
and
mr.
ratio
I
believe
jointly
are
going
to
share
with
you.
What's
going
on
terms
of
the
numbers
and
proposal
for
prospects
going
forward,
Thank.
Y
Z
Yeah
really
quick,
where
we
are
to
date.
These
stats
are
combined
with
zoning
applications
that
have
been
received.
So
far
today
we
have
seven
771
advertisement,
two
short-term
rental
advertisements,
advertisements
that
have
been
removed
from
the
online
web
sites
about
a
hundred
and
seventy
three
of
these
were
direct
communication
from
my
officers
with
individuals,
we're
starting
to
bring
people
in
and
working
with
them
and
their
understanding
the
process
and
we're
assisting
then
getting
to
the
Zoning
Department
to
try
to
see
if
they
can
get
their
permit
out
of
those
is
615.
Z
Mandy
these
stats
this
afternoon
already
they've
changed.
They've
dropped
from
we
have
now
775
advertisement
removed
in
1600
and
11
short-term
rentals
that
are
currently
advertised.
Just
in
those
few
amounted
hours,
24
cases
have
been
adjudicated
23
convictions,
one
dismissal,
the
reason
for
that
is
I
chose
to
dismiss
it,
based
on
I
felt
the
case
needed
to
be
a
little
stronger,
so
we're
just
missing
and
pursuing
the
owner
with
court
action.
36
summons
their
pending
court
for
liveability
court
on
the
17th
of
December.
Z
We've
had
three
public
workshop
sessions
already
to
educate
the
public
on
the
proper
of
methods
of
computing
Department
obtaining
a
permit
and
go
through
the
process
kind
of
guiding
them
through
it,
259
short-term
rental
permits
have
been
issued
hundred
and
this
that's
not
up
there.
126
of
those
were
pre-existing.
No
186
were
pre-existing
bed-and-breakfast
and
short-term
rentals
in
the
zoning
overlay.
So
do
the
math
I
guess
it's
like
97
that
have
our
new
short
Renta
romance.
So
far.
Z
We
have
114
applications
currently
in
a
review
process
and
10
applications
have
been
denied
because
they
just
not
have
not
met
the
standards
for
the
for
the
process,
and
one
thing
we
discovered.
We
have
a
really
good
group
that
that
meets
regularly
city
staff
from
planning
my
department,
budget,
finance,
IT
legal,
all
of
the
above
and
we've
been
working
very
closely
and
it
dawned
on
me
yesterday
when
the
fire
marshal
Mike
Rick
flew
he
mentioned.
Z
He
says
you
know
Dan
another
up
side
to
all
this,
and
they
did
I
didn't
realize
this,
but
he
says
because
we
have
the
process
in
place
of
the
permitting
process
with
with
the
safety,
the
fire
marshal
and
the
safety
in
code.
That's
improving
the
properties
they
have,
they
have
been
kind
of
substandard,
but
the
ones
that
are
applying
are
now
meeting
a
higher
standard
of
code,
which
is
helpful
in
the
safety
aspect
of
the
community,
so
not
only
code
but
the
aesthetics
of
the
the
properties
they
want
to
make
them.
Z
Look
nicer
for
short-term
rentals.
The
other
side
of
it
is.
We've
already
noticed
that
individuals,
we
have
a
brought
the
court,
several
of
them,
have
printplace
they're,
6%
properties
on
the
market
and
selling
them.
So
the
upside
of
it's,
not
just
the
number
of
advertisements
that
have
been
removed
or
the
numbers
that
are
remaining.
It's
the
the
housing
that's
coming
available
and
the
residences
that
are
becoming
safer
because
of
this
process.
Z
C
Z
AB
AC
Y
Not
prepared
to
come
back
to
you
with
all
this
exact
answers,
but
we
did
look
through
all
of
them
and
come
back
to
you
at
a
future
date.
There
are
a
number
of
things
that
can
make
a
property
not
suitable,
of
course
and
I-
think
all
of
them
have
been
in
play.
AC
Y
Course,
Thank
You,
mr.
mayor,
so
this
this
response.
This
is
in
response
to
a
request
that
came
from
Council
a
month
ago,
and
you
all
asked
the
staff
of
planning
to
get
together
with
the
staff
from
the
corporation
council
and
come
up
with
a
pathway
forward
for
how
we
address
change
to
the
short
term
rental
ordinance
and
that's
exactly
what
we've
done,
and
this
is
what
we
recommend
to
council
as
a
result
of
this
discussion.
Our
discussions,
I,
should
say.
Y
The
first
thing
is
that,
just
like
these
numbers,
you
just
saw
staff
will
be
issuing
regular
performance
reports
or
status
reports
on
the
ordinance
itself,
and
this
data
comes
out
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
regular,
shooing.
Those
reports
now
in
looking
at
best
practices
around
the
nation
and
what
we
believe
would
work
best
here.
We
recommend
the
creation
of
a
short-term
rental
Advisory
Committee.
Now
this
is
not
the
same
as
the
short-term
rental
task
force
that
we
had
before
a
lot
of
those
folks.
Y
Y
So
hopefully
we
could
get
participation
from
some
of
those
members,
but
ideally
this
could
be
a
small,
relatively
manageable
group
of
people
who
would
have
all
sides
represented
and
who
could
be
neutral
and
balanced,
and
they
could
look
at
the
status
reports
that
come
from
council,
evaluate
the
existing
policies
and
analyze
the
effect
of
proposed
policy
changes
that
may
come
from
council.
They
could
review
national
best
practices
and
make
recommendations
to
Planning
Commission.
That
would
then
come
to
you
through
the
standard
rezoning
process.
Y
Should
we
decide
the
changes
need
to
be
made
and
they
would
do
this
job
for
some
period
of
time.
We
could
say:
let's
put
it
in
place
for
two
years
or
whatever
the
interval
is,
so
they
monitor
this
thing.
They
weigh
it
against
best
practices
and
make
a
sound
judgment
about
how
it
changes
should
take
place.
This
is
really
based
on
the
city
of
Denver
who's.
Doing
this
very
well
as
well
as
number
other
cities
around
the
country,
this
over
is
not
something
that's
budgeted
for
2019.
We
were
making
our
budget
droughts.
Y
We
didn't
put
this
in,
so
we
don't
have
the
staff
that's
allocated
to
do
that.
We
could
find
we'd
figure
out
how
to
do
if
there's
an
apparatus
of
course
to
administer
such
a
committee.
This
committee
also
may
be
best
formed
as
a
sub
committee
of
the
Planning
Commission,
so
it
could
actually
be
a
subcommittee
and
it
could
include
members
of
Planning,
Commission
or
even
members
of
council
as
we
evaluate
those.
So
that's
our
recommendation.
Now.
We've
got
sad.
We
actually
are
coming
up
on
our
nine-month
review
period
that
we
promised
you.
Y
It
was
not
from
the
beginning
of
the
enforcement.
It
was
from
the
time
that
the
ordinance
was
first
passed
by
you
all
and
that
will
be
in
January,
so
we
will
have
a
large
public
forum
and
we
are
going
to
invite
all
the
members
of
the
public
as
well
as
all
of
you,
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
members
of
the
task
force,
who
are
still
around
to
publicly
review
at
this
nine-month
interval
the
performance
of
the
ordinance
itself
and,
of
course
we
would
look
forward
to
public
input
during
that
session.
Y
AC
Y
Wouldn't
be
a
committee
that
would
hear
appeals
from
applicants
per
se,
there's
in
zoning
there's
there's
a
process
for
doing
these
things.
This
is
a
committee
that
would
be
looking
at
the
performance
of
the
overall
ordinance.
If
you
all
want
to
change
something
in
the
ordinance,
they
could
review
it
against
best
practices
and
review
it
against
the
data
and
make
a
neutral
recommendation,
so
they
wouldn't
be
hearing
appeals
from
mouth
because
they're
not
in
that
chain
of
approvals
per
se.
What.
AC
About
if
we're
not
concerned
about
I
think
what
came
up
in
our
discussions
earlier,
there
may
be
some
properties
that
the
applications
did
not
like.
You
said
it
didn't
hit
all
of
those
checkpoints
that
gee
you
need
to
hit,
but
they
may
be
outside
of
that
zone.
I,
guess
with
better
way
of
saying
it
in
which
they
may
apply
if
they
were
not
into
that
particular
geographic
area,
right,
it's
just
sort
of
blanketed
and
not
fit
into
that.
Well,.
Y
Kathryn
this
too
answered
that
question
specifically
an
applicant
in
that
case
could
have
two
options.
One
is
that
they
could
come
to
you
all
and
you
can
change
the
ordinance
so
the
day
we're
no
longer
denied
on
the
basis
of
whatever
reason
they
were
kicked
out.
That's
one
thing
that
you
can
do
the
other
thing
that
you
can
do,
and
this
we
are
interested
in
this
is
create
a
new
zone
or
even
to
simply
allow
individual
properties
to
Zone
into
the
already
existing
accommodations
overlay
and
that
could
occur
anywhere
in
this
city.
Y
We've
talked
about
a
lot
of
those
ideas.
What
y'all
asked
us
to
do,
though,
was
to
think
on
what
up
what
the
pathway
is
going
forward
to
make
those
changes.
So
what
we're
suggesting
is,
if
you
all
want
to
create
a
new
zoning
process
to
allow
those
applicants
to
go
forward
or
if
you
want
to
allow
an
appeals
process.
Whatever
those
ideas
may
be,
we
create
a
new
neutral
review
committee.
Y
We
send
it
to
them,
they
can
look
best
practices,
they
can
come
back
and
talk
to
us
about
what
the
effect
would
be
on
the
city
and
then
that
would
go
through
the
process
itself.
So
we
think
that,
given
the
difficulty
of
this
issue,
looking
at
how
other
cities
are
handling
it,
this
is
in
line
with
best
practices
nationally.
Z
AD
Z
No
they're
all
in
the
city,
okay,
but
it
tells
us
that
they
have
to
validate.
They
have
to
check
recheck
it
before
we
get
it,
they
do
the
job
for
us,
but
it's
it's
a
process
currently
there's
approximately
five
hundred
right
now
that
are
confirmed
we
have
confirmed
these
are.
These
are
definitely
in
violation.
The
others
are
being
checked
into
and
validated
what
we
do
our
process
is.
We
send
out
a
warning
letter
for
D
cease
and
desist,
give
them
ten
days
to
respond
within
that
ten
days.
Some
of
them
respond,
some
of
them.
Z
Z
It's
working,
their
lawyers
are
calling
us
from
New
York's
and
what
do
I
need
to
do
so
out
of
that?
Six?
Well,
now
sixteen
eleven,
it's
just
going
through
that
process.
It
takes
time
for
my
guys
to
tackle
it.
So
when
we
get
a
list
we
start
investigating
and
we
just
go
on
to
the
next
once
once
we
clear
those
we
go
back
to
the
list,
so
it's
just
a
process
that
we
got
to
kind
of
keep
going
with.
AD
Z
Currently,
working
on
probably
fifty
we
can't,
we
only
got
that
three
guys
of
those
five
hundred
we'll
get
to
them.
Once
we
complete
the
investigation,
once
we
complete
the
paperwork
with
the
warnings
are
which
a
lot
of
what
just
like
yet
just
like.
Yesterday,
we
brought
a
lady
in
with
six
houses.
She
stopped
took
everything
off
and
just
by
consulting
with
her,
so
she's
now
in
compliance
and
two
of
those
properties
are
eligible
for
they're
in
the
short
term
rental
overlay.
So
we
just,
we
were
constantly
having
to
play
catch-up.
Z
AD
Guess
my
concern,
and
maybe
we
need
to
have
a
little
bit
more
information
like
that:
a
breakdown
at
1600,
but
if
that's,
if
that's
what
we've
got,
is
1600
out
there
that
are
advertising
and
we're
working
through
those
we've
only
made
24.
Well,
we've
only
made
60
cases
really
24
been
adjudicated
for
what
36
are
pending.
So
the
numbers,
don't
don't
look
like
we're
doing
much
well.
Z
Z
Z
G
Z
Full-Time
and
that's
all
they
do
every
day,
some
of
them,
we
rotate
them
on
the
weekends
they're
actually
visiting
locations
interviewing
tenants,
providing
us
with
the
information
that
we
ask,
which
are
our
tenor
Aires
on
their
mobile
phones,
were
making
cases.
But
again,
the
delay
hasn't
been
the
court
not
in
session
because
of
the
holidays.
Okay,.
G
G
They
live
on
a
fixed
income;
essentially
they
have
carriage
house
that
they
had
rented
out
long
term
in
earlier
years,
but
it's
really
too
much
of
a
burden
for
them
to
do
that,
their
house
has
been
submitted
for
an
individual
listing
they're
in
the
historic
you
know,
recognition
zone
for
the
National
Register,
the
the
review
has
been
delayed.
They
have
questions
to
answer.
G
There
happen
to
spend
money
with
the
historic
preservation
consultant
to
do
all
of
this,
and
they
really
need
to
bring
in
some
income
and
even
even
to
think
about
continuing
to
stay
in
their
home.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
there
is
there
in
your
district
council
member
seeking
I'm
sure
you
know
them
I'm
wondering
if
we
have
any.
You
know
leeway
at
all
to
consider
a
very
hardship
special
exception
reason
like
this,
that
we
could
help
yeah
individual
cases
well,.
Y
This
is
the
zoning
matter,
so
anyone
who
wants
to
appeal
the
existing
their
existing
ruling
by
an
administrator
or
to
seek
a
variance
from
what
they
have
goes
to
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals,
to
seek
a
variance
that
goes
through
a
5-part
state
mandated
hardship
test.
So
this
is
a
state
process
which
would
be
a
variance
from
zoning
and
that's
the
way
that
all
of
Zoning
works,
zoning
to
quote
on,
or
paraphrase
the
on
our
former
corporation
councilman's
Cantwell.
Y
She
often
would
reiterate
to
us
planners
that
zoning
regulates
uses,
not
users.
We
don't
want
zoning
discriminating
against
or
for
an
individual
person.
We
want
it
looking
at
the
use,
that's
occurring
on
the
property,
that's
what
zoning
does
so
an
individual
user
of
a
property
who
feels
that
their
use
doesn't
fit
pursues
that
through
the
board
or
something
appeals
as
a
mandated
by
state
law.
With
that
said,
we
always
knew
they
were
gonna,
be
folks
out
there
who
wanted
to
do
something
it
wasn't
allowed
by
the
ordinance
at
the
beginning.
We
always
need
that
now.
Y
We're
getting
to
that
point
where
I
think
we
can
make
some
some.
You
know
smart
decisions,
that's
what
we
recommend
the
creation
of
this
new
committee
to
do
exactly
that,
and
you
truly
evaluate
the
performance
of
the
ordinance
look
at
why
people
are
excluded.
Look
at
where
it's
performing
well,
the
771.
A
lot
of
those
are
units
that
were
returning
back
to
the
house.
G
We
have
some,
you
know
more
trends
and
more
considerations
to
give
and
I
trust
that
we'll
be
making
good.
You
know
change
decisions
or
whatever
we
decide
to
do
down
the
road
I'm.
Simply
just
you
know
wondering
on
behalf
of
a
constituent
of
the
city
of
Citizen
of
the
city.
If
there
are
things
that
you
know,
we
could
be
doing
to
be
helpful.
So,
basically,
when
they
were
rejected
by
the
by
you
know,
they
didn't
meet
that
one
criteria.
G
Y
Landowner
has
the
right
to
seek
a
variance,
should
they
feel
that
they
are,
they
are
entitled
to
one.
What
I
would
say
is,
but
those
people
directly
in
touch
with
me
I'd
be
happy
to
sit
down
with
them
and
look
at
what
the
exact
issue
is,
and
we
can
make
a
determination
if
it
could
potentially
get
a
variance.
Okay,
thank.
Z
AA
Z
Z
C
O
Thank
You
mr.
mill
committee
met
yesterday.
The
bulk
of
our
meeting
was
under
miscellaneous
updates
on
calhoun
west
drainage
project,
an
update
on
King
Street
and
huge
E
Street
drainage,
project
and
I.
Don't
know
mr.
new
him
I
still
here
enough
boys,
John,
I'm,
sorry
councilman
Lewis.
He
was
gonna,
give
an
update
on
that,
but
the
solution
is
still
a
pump
station
and
the
funding
for
that
is
going
to
come
from
TIF
funds
and
drainage
pump.
O
We
had
update
on
Orleans
woods
and
the
status
of
the
brain
is
easements,
something
that
we
are
gonna
have
issues
with.
In
particular
in
the
older
areas
the
city
spent
I
know
it
was
at
least
16
million
dollars
18
years
ago,
doing
the
drainage.
Over
now
partner.
It
was
the
first
major
drainage
project
city
had
done.
O
We
have
the
infrastructure
in
place.
We
need
to
get
a
ditch
from
some
of
the
people
that
came
here
complaining
about
the
pictures.
Mr.
mayor
of
flooding
in
their
homes
leave
it
up.
We
got
three
people
almost
after
a
year,
a
little
more
than
a
year
that
will
not
sign
an
easement
where
the
city
can
come
in
ten-foot
easement
create
a
ditch
gravity
flow,
get
the
water
that
would
be
in
their
homes
of
a
flooding.
O
Heavy
rain
advance
occurs,
so
we
need
to
have
a
legal
process
and
I
know
miss
ardena,
her
team's
working
on
that.
But
this
is
something
that's
gonna
repeat
itself
over
and
over
again.
So
if
we're
gonna
develop
a
legal
template,
when
people
refuse
to
sign
an
easement,
so
we
can
simply
get
a
ditch.
Our
gravity
flow
to
get
the
water
out
of
harm's
way
for
not
only
them
but
their
neighbors
a
year.
Year-And-A-Half
of
getting
that
done,
we
just
gotta
find
a
better
way
so
that
came
up
on
our
but
other
than
that.
G
O
E
O
You
for
bringing
it
up
mr.
Jackson,
because
we
had
a
little
sidewalk
conversation
and
when
the
lady
spoke
at
citizen
participation,
but
I
think
you
all
may
have
missed
that,
but
that
information
is
available
for
y'all
the
repairs.
That's
gonna
be
started
in
2019
and
a
little
better.
Well.
Thank
you.
Mister
me.
D
Is
where
those
items
councilmember,
that
you
were
considering
okay,
but
gives
the
aquarium
hanukkah,
as
well
as
the
other
budgets
that
we
passed
that
will
come
back
next
year?
I
mean
I'm.
Sorry
next
week,
yes,
in
addition,
we
had
three
bills
that
were
defer
they're
also
listed
here,
but
I
have
marked
them
as
deferred.
Okay,.
C
D
D
AE
C
Any
other
questions
comments
all
in
favor
of
those
items
per
se
I
any
opposed
eons
have
it
now
for
third
reading
the
ratification
of
a
movement
and
a
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
are,
and
he
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
we're
getting
close
to
the
end.
I
didn't
have
to
sign
these
here
thing.
AF
C
AH
I
know
all
the
items
under
fills
up
a
first
reading
or
deferred.
However,
item
three
not
to
talk
to
council
wearing
about
this,
the
it
it's
showing
you,
the
Berlin,
short-term
rental.
Since
we've
had
discussions
here,
we
sort
of
got
a
path
forward.
I've
asked
how
some
where
he
was
okay,
we
would
draw
that
the
neighborhoods
that
I
represent
downtown
sort
of
been
sitting
on
pins
and
needles
for
quite
some
time.
AH
Not
knowing
sort
of
what's
gonna
happen
with
this,
and
as
it
continued
to
stay
on
the
agenda,
just
sort
of
causes
undue
consternation,
I
asked
council
where
a
few
be
okay.
If
we
would
just
go
ahead
and
and
withdraw
the
mote
item
until
it
comes
back
up
to
be
heard,
once
we've
kind
of
gone
through
the
motions
here
and-
and
he
agreed
so
I'll-
make
that
I'll
make
that
at
motion.
We
withdraw.
O
C
O
O
So
that's
why
I'm
bringing
up
the
route
change
to
council
that
when
we
have
outstanding
committees
being
appointed
and
other
committees
that
City
Council
people
sit
on
that
we
actually
have
a
to
and
fro
which
normally
kind
of
takes
place
anyway,
but
it
is
not
codified.
So
I
think
it
should
be
caught
off
ID
and
that's
why
we've
made
this
change
to
the
rule.
Accounts.
AF
A
E
C
Did
take
the
time
to
read
our
rules,
not
so
much
for
this
matter,
but
a
few
months
ago,
once
another
issue
came
up
and
it
is
left
up
to
the
mayor
to
decide
committee
appointments
from
the
standing
committees
and
to
choose
the
chairman
and,
interestingly
enough,
it
calls
for
council
to
give
its
consent
for
the
mayor
pro-tem,
and
we
haven't
really
been
following
that
practice.
So
so
much.
I.
E
C
D
C
That
I
adopted
basically
the
same
practice
that
mayor
Miley
had
been
following
to
be
honest
with
you
and
I've
honestly
tried
to
be
respectful
of
any
requests
that
I've
gotten
from
council
members
when
I
put
the
committees
together
and
there
hadn't
been
a
terrific
amount
of
change.
Since
since
I
came
on
board,
I.
O
Agree
with
all
of
it,
mister
minute,
but
and
I'm
not
saying
it
was
disrespectful
or
uneasy.
Alright.
That
process.
Are
you
telling
me
that
the
way
the
audience
is
now
that
you
have
the
right
to
appoint
standing
committees,
even
if
City
Council
says
we'd
like
to
have
a
role
to
play
in
their
Bible
to
counsel
you
telling
me
that's
what
the
ordinance
says.
That's.
O
AB
O
AB
Think
it
can't
be
done,
it's
inconsistent
with
with
the
form
of
government
we
have,
although
there's
nothing
that
prohibits
it
from
being
done
and
I
mean
one.
One
option
may
be
requesting
council
members
to
give
their
recommendations
to
the
mayor
and
name.
You
know
one
or
two
or
three
options,
and
then
he
can
put
together
the
committee
and
then
put
it
to
a
vote
to
you
if
it's
satisfactory,
I.
O
Think,
council
should
have
say
survival
of
the
standing
committees,
as
opposed
to
frankly,
one
person
to
me
moving
it
around.
We've
done
it
over
the
years
has
not
been
codified.
That
way,
you
sit
down
with
the
mayor,
discuss
committee,
appointments
and
pretty
much
when
they
that
slate
comes
out
in
January
we
really
vote
for,
but
in
my
opinion
we
revoked
for
me
a
protein
not
necessary
all
the
standing
committees.
So,
madam
clerk,
are
you
saying
that
we
vote
for
the
committee's
as
well?
That's
been.
O
And
that's
the
part
I
want
to
clear
up.
That's
the
part
I
want
to
clear
up,
in
other
words,
every
year
out
on
this
council,
we
have
been
voting
on
me
up,
wrote
in
the
committee
of
the
committee.
Appointments
were
kind
of
worked
out
for
this
fall
by
vote
of
council.
My
understanding
was
that
vote
did
not
include
whether
you
were
we're
not
on
a
particular
committee
on
that
council.
P
Susan
time
to
time
is
that
is
there
any
sort
of
regularity
to
that
or
that
could
be
every
six
months
or
I
mean
I
know
we
do
it
pretty
much
every
year,
but
is
that
consistent
with
other
municipalities
or
the
reason
I
say?
That
is
because
you
know
I
can
I
can
understand
your
point
here
and
what
my
what
I
would
say
on
that
this.
This
whole
thing
is,
you
know,
you
start
I
mean
each
of
us
around.
P
The
table
has
some
really
special
attributes
and
a
lot
of
us
have
committees
that
were
better
suited
for
or
that
we
have
done
good
work
on
and
it's
like
you
know,
after
the
a
year,
if
you
were
to
be
taken
off,
let's
just
say:
I
was
taking
off
Public
Works.
It
would
break
my
heart
because
we
worked
so
hard
and
my
district
is
Church
Creek,
which
makes
sense
for
me
to
be
on
public
works.
But
if
we
change
it
up-
and
we
don't
have
any
input
in
that,
then
it
just
doesn't
make
sense.
P
B
AF
Via
Tecton
bird
always
come
and
access,
what
can
we
do?
We
one
servo
now,
if
we
actually,
if
I,
want
single
community-development
I
tell
every
year,
yes
and
he's
don't
appoint
me
and
I
say
the
Consul
that
I
want
to
serve
on
that
committee.
That
said
the
Consul
to
take
the
boat
and
put
me
on
a
committee,
because
we
have
no
authority
to
do
that,
but
I
think
he
does
it
a
pretty
good
way.
O
AF
Well,
if
you
want
it,
and
you
put
it
you,
you
put
a
motion
on
the
floor,
console
that
you
want
that
committee
council
could
vote
it
up
or
down
to
change,
because
all
Powell's
you
see
that
tonight
lies
at
City
Council.
In
order
for
budget
to
pass.
You
have
to
have
said
members
of
council
pass
the
budget
and
anything
that
you
want
to
do
in
this
room.
Have
several
people
say:
do
it
again
within
the
ordinance
of
the
city?
Instincts
are
gonna?
Did
you
do
it.
AB
Me
not
the
way
the
ordinance
is
written
right
now
or
the
rule
is
written
and-
and
let
me
clarify
something
you
asked
about
state
law
before
and
I.
Don't
think
that
what
you're
contemplating
is
prohibited.
But
I
would
remind
you
that
you
do
adopt
the
rules
as
an
ordinance
every
year,
and
so
this
would
have
to
be
an
ordinance
a
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
if
we're
going
to
make
a
change
to
it
and
then
second
and
third
reading
at
a
later
point
but
I.
O
AB
O
Understand
it
I
understand
and
I
know:
we've
had
Alico
arrangements
on
this,
but
frankly
we
coming
up
to
election
year
and
things
tend
to
go
bonkers
in
election
year
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
stay
away
from
mr.
Muir,
for
example,
we've
been
meeting
for
six
months
and
the
first
time
I
heard
the
day
that
we
could
add.
Two
fire
stations
have
employee
pay
raise
start
in
January
without
a
tax
increase.
That's
first
time,
I
heard
that
today,
I.
O
We
got
a
new,
we
got
a
newspaper
article
that
says
that
I
didn't
address
it
on
the
floor.
Council
I
get
along
with
my
colleague
right
here,
but
you
know
what
I
said:
I
didn't
talk
that
up
to
election
year,
politics
I
went
down
and
relieve
myself.
I
came
back
up
on
the
elevator,
that's
all
wonderful
interview
going
on.
That's
it
boy!
You
know
it's
great
to
be
able
to
get
fire
stations,
get
pay
raises,
and
we
don't
have
to
increase
revenue
myself.
O
O
We
all
have
certain
challenges
and
you've
done
a
good
job,
putting
us
in
place,
but
just
in
case
election,
you
warm
up
I
think
we
need
to
codify
what
you
do
in
the
form
of
an
ordinance
where
we
work
through
this
jointly
and
then
we
vote
on
not
only
the
Mayor
Pro
Tem,
but
the
standing
committees
of
council,
as
well,
primarily
with
with
me
with
Miss
hardiness,
because
if
we
were
to
take
a
vote
under
the
current
ordinance
that
we
have
in
place.
We
can't
do
that.
O
E
Down
receipt,
there's
a
procedure
for
that
they're
just
so.
The
order
to
talk
about
is
section
2
49,
which
just
get
a
copy
everybody
and
what
it
says
is
the
mayor
shall
appoint
standing
committees
and
shall
name
the
chairperson
of
each
and
in
a
case
of
a
vacancy
in
any
committee
or
in
the
chairperson
of
any
committee
from
time
to
time
for
calls.
So
it's
all
left
to
the
power
of
the
mayor.
We
every
January
I,
think
the
clerk
said
we,
among
other
things,
we
have
to
readapt
our
own
rules.
E
O
AD
2018
and
basically
you
obviously
have
the
right
to
establish
new
committees,
because
you
set
up
a
budget
committee.
The
only
thing
we
did
was
we
set
up
a
budget
committee
and
you
name
the
people
to
it,
and
then
we
voted
on
the
mayor,
pro-tem
and
that's
all
we
did
I,
don't
say
the
rules,
but
you
said
it's
every
two
years
there
before
you
every.
C
AC
R
AD
O
Kind
of
takes
three
readers.
We
can't
do
all
that
in
January,
but
we
can
in
the
month
of
June.
We
can't
do
it.
That's
right!
Okay,
thank
you!
I'll
get
with
Council
great
terrific.
The
second
item
there's
some
information
that
I
understand
is
gonna,
be
coming
for
it
in
front
of
the
Public
Works
Committee.
Some
work
that
I
think
our
financial
advisors
have
done
on
some
of
the
drainage
project
overall
and
if
Council,
would
please
I'd
like
to
defer
that
until
some
of
that
information
has
a
chance
to
come
in
front
of
Public,
Works,
okay,.
AD
Quick
comment
on
that
last
item:
the
the
daughter
laid
out
in
councilmember
Sheila's
district.
We
probably
need
to
get
Eric
Adams
with
the
county
to
come,
speak
to
Public
Works,
because
what
we
were,
what
I
was
thinking
we
were
going
to
do
is
not
what's
gonna
happen
with
the
county.
The
county
is
going
to
widen
that
road
they're
not
going
to
put
any
kind
of
drainage
under
Glenn
McConnell
to
help
that
drainage
over
there,
primarily
because
you've
got
to
go
through
the
Corps
of
Engineers
and
a
whole
whole
bunch
of
other
stuff.
AD
But
that's
going
to
be
a
problem
for
your
district
council
members
unity,
but
what
the
county
said
they
were
going
to
do.
Is
they
were
going
to
widen
the
road
and
do
all
the
infrastructure,
but
they
were
going
to
kind
of
stay
away
from
that
area
where
the
city,
if
they
wanted
to
go
through
the
process
of
doing
that,
that
we
could
do
that.
So
Harriet
has
some
information.
I
just
got
a
little
bit
of
it.
The
other
night
yeah.
C
C
Councilmember
Seeley
contacted
me
this
morning
about
it.
I
wasn't
able
to
make
the
the
meeting
last
night
and
as
it
so
happened,
we
were
both
at
the
groundbreaking
for
the
West
actually
library
in
chairman
Rahl
and
the
other
council
member
moody
was
there
and
we
kind
of
huddled
up
about
this
issue.
I,
don't
know
that
if
right
now
is
the
right
time
to
give
them
some,
we
we
believe
we
have
a
path
forward.
C
C
AI
C
Okay,
so
we'll
come
back
to
those
other
items.
We
have
a
joint
meeting
with
the
Planning
Commission
I
think
maybe
the
first
in
history.
That's
later
this
week,
Thursday
at
3
o'clock
and
the
City
Council
work
workshop
next
next
December
11
and
I
may
ask
that
we
modify
the
agenda
for
that
workshop
and
add
this
matter
that
came
up
this
evening
about
the
Fishburne
spring
street
phase
for
drainage
project.
C
The
reason
why
there's
some
it's
time-sensitive,
because
we
got
the
bigs
in
and
there's
only
so
many
days,
that
the
bids
are
good
and
believe
it
or
not.
The
price
could
go
up
and
that's
what
I've
been
advised
so
so
I
want
to
go
ahead
promptly
very
promptly
and
have
the
meeting
with
counsel
and
talk
about
those
that
project.
So
we
could
decide
by
December
18th
if
we're
going
to
move
forward
or
not
council
member
Jackson,
shade
I.
G
C
This
was
a
delayed
workshop
that
we
had
scheduled
earlier
in
the
year
about
innovation,
our
process,
improvement
and
and
topics
like
that
and
I
still,
and
we
have
a
speaker-
that's
scheduled
to
come
share.
Some
insights
with
us
from
out
of
town
still
want
to
do
that.
But
it's
it's
clear
to
me.
We
need
to
go
ahead
and
talk
about
spring
Fishburn,
also
and.
G
Y
AC
Is
a
reminder
for
council
that
tomorrow,
at
the
First
Christian
Church
at
1293,
Orange
Grove
Road
is
an
open
house
forum
to
review
the
plans
from
the
county
on
the
redesign
of
the
intersection,
have
O'town
road
to
San
rittenberg?
So
if
you
have
a
chance,
stop
by
begins
at
5:30,
so
you
see
what
the
county's
gonna
put
plan
and
like
to
have
you
also
put
on
that
the.
AG
AG
Mind
everyone.
This
is
not
nothing
to
dealing
with
the
council
at
all,
but
my
church
is
having
a
a
concert
on
Friday
this
Friday
we,
my
choir,
along
with
some
friends,
frantic
mods
IBEW,
the
seven
numbers
from
the
Messiah
and
we
gonna
have
some
spiritual,
singing
spirituals.
After
would
you
be
a
singer?
We
are
doing
this
with
the
Charleston,
simply
Orchestra,
and
so
I
would
start
at
7:30
on
Friday
nights.