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City of Charleston Council Meeting - February 12, 2019
B
Would
like
to
give
the
opportunity
for
everybody
in
here
to
take
a
moment
of
silence,
remembering
that
this
is
a
very
important
week
in
in
our
Congress,
with
the
potential
shutdown,
the
United
States
government
and
in
the
very
near
future,
and
potential
impact
on
800,000
of
our
friends,
neighbors
and
constituents.
I
know
that
our
government
in
the
federal
level
is
at
what
I
would
consider
a
sort
of
a
crisis
we
can't
seem
to
get
along.
So
I
would
like
to
do
a
moment
of
silence.
A
Well,
council,
members
and
citizens
I
I,
have
the
high
honor
of
of
honoring
Reverend
Alma
Dungy
to
be
with
us
tonight,
she's
one
of
Charleston's,
most
active
and
dedicated
citizens.
We're
proud
to
both
thank
her
and
honor
her
for
her
tireless
service
to
the
community
tonight,
she's
she's
right
here
to
my
right
and
I'm,
going
to
read
a
proclamation
of
Reverend
Dungy,
our
dear
friend
in
your
honor.
A
If
any
your
family
would
like
to
join
us
and
I'd,
also
like
to
ask
councilmember,
Lewis
and
Gregory
to
please
join
me
at
the
end
Mitchell
to
join
me,
I
think
technically,
Reverend
Dungy
lives
in
councilmember,
Lewis's
district,
but
but
her
her
spirit
and
her
her
gracious
activities
of
to
benefit
the
city
of
Charleston
cross
across
all
jurisdictional
boundaries.
So,
if
I
may
approximation
to
share
with
you
tonight,.
A
Francis
in
MUSC,
and
whereas
the
president
of
north
central
neighborhood,
Reverend
Dungy,
worked
tirelessly
to
maintain
its
historic
character,
ensure
safety
and
advocate
for
businesses
and
homeowners
and
whereas,
as
a
committed
environmentalist,
Reverend
Dungey
has
served
with
keep
Charleston
beautiful
and
clean
city.
Sweet
and
Reverend
Dungy
was
a
first
recipient
of
the
city
of
Charleston
Halcon
award
in
1999
for
her
community
and
neighborhood
leadership
exemplified
through
her
work
with
organizations
like
Charleston
promise,
AmeriCorps
VISTA,
East,
Side's,
Clean
Sweep.
A
National
TV
minister
and
both
assistant,
pastor
and
pastor,
at
Ebenezer,
AME,
Church,
Shiloh,
AME,
Church
and
new
Israel,
and
whereas
I
congratulate
Reverend
Dungy
on
her
numerous
achievements
and
thank
her
for
many
contributions
to
the
city
of
Charleston.
Now,
therefore,
I
John
J
technopark
mayor
the
city
of
Charleston,
do
hereby
proclaim
today.
Tuesday
February
12
as
Reverend
Alma
Dungy
day
in
the
city
of
Jaffa.
A
D
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
we're
in
the
process
of
renovating
1089
cage-free,
which
we
have
made
their
cultural
leaders
that
I've
been
in
City
Council
for
24
years
every
day
has
been
the
only
David
president
I
served
under
until
about
a
year
ago,
she's
been
the
over
30.
Something
is
a
day
of
the
president.
We
up
the
money
and
the
line
item
in
the
budget
to
redo
that
sailor
and
we
go
to
name
a
place
to
the
members
of
City
Council
to
Recreation
Commission
chaired
by
constant
integration.
E
F
I
would
like
to
thank
each
and
every
one
of
you
for
being
here
today.
I
found
me,
we
really
work
hard
and
I
did.
Think
of
all
of
you
intend
to
work.
I
was
sorry
that
I
couldn't
make
it
earlier
because
of
my
condition
now
see.
I
was
walking
all
the
time
breathing
and
helping
people
and
it's
a
blessing
when
you
can
be
a
blessing
to
somebody
else.
That
was
life.
A
Thank
you,
and
next
we
have
another
short
recognition
of
just
a
fine
young
man
in
our
community
and
I
just
came
to
meet
him
at
our
recent
professional
breakfast
of
the
Martin
Luther
King
Day
celebration
and
his
name
is
Kevon.
Singleton
he's
a
senior
at
the
First
Baptist
school
and
he
was
the
youth
speaker
at
the
breakfast
this
year.
He's
the
son
of
Michael
and
Santonio
singleton
he's
created
five
documentaries
already
on
the
civil
rights
movement,
received
multiple
awards
and
filmmaking
co-produced.
A
A
film
title
that
Elena
the
city
too
busy
to
help
at
first
type
is
food
studies
English
and
pursue
political
science.
I
think
he'd
like
to
run
for
mayor
one
day,
but
you
have
to
move
to
the
city
of
Charleston.
He
plays
defensive,
tackle
for
the
varsity
football
team.
He's
quoted
as
saying
my
goal
is
to
work
as
hard
as
I
can
and
be.
The
best
I
can
be
effort.
Is
everything
I'm,
a
great
student
who
enjoys
learning
new
things,
I'm
fast
off
the
ball
and
will
never
give
up
Kevon.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
this
opportunity
today,
I
really
wasn't
expecting
to
say
anything,
but
recently,
I
was
given
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
Friday
this
past
Friday
at
the
Charleston
GOP
Black
History
Program,
and,
along
with
my
speaking,
engagements,
has
become
new
connections.
G
The
whole
purpose
of
a
community
is
in
fact,
to
learn
different
things
about
each
other
and
to
join
together
whether
it
is
the
difference
between
races,
economically
or
in
fact,
just
political
parties.
You
know
we
are
all
one.
The
city
of
Charleston
has
come
together
before
to
be
one,
and
we
all
have
can
agree
that
right
now
our
United
States
government
isn't
a
bit
of
controversy.
So
why
not?
Let
the
United
States
learn
from
us
that
we
can
show
them
that
the
city
of
Charleston
is
the
stepping
stone.
A
Thank
you
keep
up
the
good
work
next.
We
have
no
public
hearing
matters
this
evening,
so
we
go
to
approval
of
City
Council
meetings
minutes.
We
have
our
motion
to
approve
both
January,
8th
and
22nd
Griffin
and
Jackson
any
additions,
lesions
changes
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
oppose
the
eyes.
Have
it
next?
Is
our
citizens
participation
period?
A
We
have
20
people
signed
up
so
I'll
ask
you
to
keep
your
remarks
to
90
seconds
a
minute
and
a
half,
and
madam
clerk
will
call
out
like
four
or
five
individuals
at
a
time
if
y'all
would
queue
up
on
either
side
and
just
step
forward
state
your
name
and
address
and
we'll
be
happy
to
hear
from
you
any
remarks
you
would
like
to
make
to
the
council
this
evening.
Ok,.
G
J
First,
three
to
twenty
first
food,
fourth
verse
and
to
the
lip
I
up
my
eyes
of
our
dwellers
off
in
the
heaven
behold
at
the
eyes
of
servants,
look
unto
the
hand
of
their
masters
and
as
the
eyes
of
amid
unto
the
hand
off
her
math
mistress,
so
our
eyes
with
upon
the
Lord,
our
God
and
to
whom
he
have
mercy
upon
us,
have
mercy
upon
us.
Lord
have
mercy
upon
us,
for
we
are
exceedingly
full
with
contempt.
J
A
K
Good
evening,
I'm,
Melinda,
Hamilton
and
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
a
League
of
Women
Voters
I,
want
to
thank
city
council
and
our
mayor
for
the
your
service
to
this
community
and
I'm,
proud
to
call
Charleston
home,
but
maybe
even
prouder,
to
hear
the
United
Nations
women's
council
and
women
around
the
world
speak
about
the
work
that
is
being
done
right
here
in
Charleston
on
behalf
of
women's
rights
and
human
rights.
This
city
is
an
icon
in
the
deep
south
and
because
the
league
works
closely
with
United
Nations.
K
This
work
is
always
being
held
up
as
an
example
of
change
for
positive
in
the
south,
but
I'm
here
to
ask
your
support
for
the
Equal
Rights,
Amendment
and
I
have
a
story
to
tell
you.
That's
just
what
I
think
you
were
asking
us
to
pray
for
a
bipartisan
bill
that
the
league
supports
H
33
91
is
in
the
House
Judiciary
Committee
of
a
South
Carolina
General
Assembly.
K
It's
led
by
Gilda
Cobb
hunter,
a
Democrat
from
Orangeburg,
who
is
the
a
serving
member
of
the
house
and
by
Charleston's
Peter
McCoy,
a
Republican
who
is
chair
of
the
House
Judiciary
Committee.
The
league
is
so
proud
of
the
grit,
the
grace
and
the
leadership
that
is
represented
by
this
bill
and
support
from
Charleston
City,
Council
and
ratification
time.
I
L
Good
to
see
mr.
Tekin
Berger
get
the
flood
commission
with
governor
McMasters
and
he's
on
the
stakeholder
board.
I
was
there
on
flooding
and
also
the
rape
farmer
who
I
made
public
comment
at
2:30
2013
regarding
that
issue,
and
secondly,
my
library,
my
library
usage-
and
this
is
the
IRS
Bill
of
Rights
right
here
for
the
record
and
on
January
22nd,
receive
from
the
United
States,
the
Court
of
Appeals
Richmond
Virginia
Brian
Tracy
was
nice-ass
department,
education
and
that's
pretty
serious
to
me.
Half
on
the
same
day,
I
was
here
and
10:45.
L
Pope
urban
ii
sanction
the
crusades
and
1500
the
transonic
slave
trade
with
sanction
281
years
later,
thomas
jefferson,
that
note
so
said
virginia
stating
that
african
has
every
equal
to
white
people
in
the
world
for
20
81
years,
shade,
massey
and
henry
who's
going
to
be.
The
author
of
the
educational
bill
is
gonna
a
cinnamon
electric
electrocution
and
also,
and
also
other
forms
of
cool
and
usual
punishment
to
people
on
death
row.
L
So
we
hope
that
many
african-americans
will
be
on
death
row
with
a
hard
winter
cases
in
this
state
on
the
ground
that
the
facts
don't
support
that
there's
no
apparently
haven't
support.
Were
you
talking
about?
It
doesn't
support
that.
That's
a
lie
quit
lying
to
people
about
this
deed.
This
state
has
a
serious
problem.
M
M
Thank
you.
I
will
be
very
brief
and,
to
echo
the
sentiments
of
the
lovely
representative
from
the
League
of
Women
Voters
I'm,
one
of
the
fortunate
enough
to
be
one
of
the
members
of
the
Commission
on
women
and
wanted
to
just
speak
about
specifically
Gilda
cop
Cobb
hunter.
Excuse
me
who
is
yes
mr.
ray
I'm,
sorry
I,
usually
very
loud,
so
I
don't
like
to
get
as
close
to
the
microphone.
M
For
that
reason,
but
and
I
can
tell
you
that
many
years
ago,
I
remember
speaking
with
her
on
the
phone
and
doing
a
political
science
project
when
I
was
at
Furman
and
I
can
say
that
there's
nobody
finer
in
our
state
legislature
than
her
to
be
the
one
supporting
this
along
with
mr.
McCoy.
So
we
strongly
urge
the
council
to
put
their
positive
message
behind
this
and
urge
the
state
legislature
to
support
the
earning.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
N
Talking
about
like
glass
pipes-
and
you
know
the
cigarette
rolling
paper
and
the
Jew
cigarettes,
or
whatever
have
you
and
I
know
that
they
do
right
to
sell
these
things
in
the
stores.
However,
their
children
that
frequent
these
stores,
all
the
time
after
school
and
spring
break
is
coming
out,
and
it's
just
not.
Does
it
look
good?
N
You
know
in
the
community
so
I'm
hoping
that
there
can
be
something
that
can
be
done
to
ordinance
or
something
written
up,
that
they
don't
have
to
be
sold
in
the
stores
they
can
get
it
in
these
novelty
shops.
The
second
thing
is
that
our
City
Police
Department
kind
of
want
that
connection
in
our
neighborhood
and
I'll
be
brief
about
this.
N
But
then
it's
a
true
story:
there
were
times
that
the
name
that
the
police
department,
the
policeman
when
they
patrol
the
neighborhood
a
night
I
get
it
they're
supposed
to
protect
them
and
serve,
but
if
they
can
be
a
closer
relationship
in
our
neighborhood
in
our
community,
I
can't
saw
any
other
community
but
ours,
my
grandson
time.
What's
missing,
you
know
for
a
while,
but
then,
when
a
police
officer
saw
me
crying
and
you
know,
upset
well
right
away,
he
asked
you
know
who
I
was
looking
for
and
I
he's
described
him.
N
O
Good
evening,
Leah
Farrell
with
the
Preservation
Society
Thank
You
mayor
Thank,
You
mayor
Leah
Farrell,
with
the
Preservation
Society
of
Charleston
Thank
You
counsel,
I
just
want
to
speak
on
the
interim
stormwater
regs
this
evening.
So
we
understand
they
didn't
hit
the
mark.
We
get
that,
but
we
really
feel
that
is
important,
that
the
hydrologist,
the
stormwater
experts,
continue
to
work
on
this
issue.
The
pushback
from
the
development
community
is
always
gonna,
be
disguised
around
affordable
housing,
but,
let's
not
let
them
co-op
that
term.
O
Let's
not
confuse
cheap
with
affordability
and,
unfortunately,
our
community
is
learning
the
hard
way
that
we
can't
afford
not
to
do
something.
We
must
endorse
sustainable
building
practices
for
our
residents.
We
are
spending
millions
on
drainage
and
infrastructure
projects
throughout
our
city
to
correct
the
errors
of
our
past,
and
we
just
need
to
ask:
are
we
willing
to
fix
our
development
practices?
Now?
Where
are
we
going
to
kick
the
can
down
the
road
for
another
20
years?
We
urge
you
all
to
take
bold
action
and
do
something
wonderful
for
our
community.
Thank
you.
Thank.
P
Name
is
dr.:
Martha,
Menard
I
live
on
folly,
Road
on
James,
Island
and
I'm
here
this
evening
to
urge
the
council
to
vote
in
favor
of
the
resolution
supporting
the
e
ra
and
I'd
like
to
speak
to
the
economic
impact
of
this
I.
Don't
know
if
you
all
are
aware,
but
the
gender
wage
gap
in
South
Carolina
is
larger
than
the
national
average.
P
P
A
Q
My
name
is
Caroline
Radner
address
49,
Calhoun,
Street
and
I'm
here,
representing
the
coastal
conservation
league
we'd
like
to
commend
the
city
staff
and
particularly
the
resilience
department
for
the
hard
work
that
they're
doing
on
flooding,
mitigation
and
updating
the
city,
sea
level
rise
strategy
and
the
new
resilience
page
on
the
city
of
Charleston's
website
for
tech,
Limburg
and
members
of
council.
You've
made
it
clear
that
flooding
and
mitigation
for
flooding
is
a
priority
for
you,
and
we
know
that
there's
so
much
good
work
that
you
guys
are
all
doing
already
to
deal
with
flooding.
Q
We
were
pleased
to
see
that
the
number
one
goal
listed
in
the
updated
strategy
is
to
protect
citizens
and
neighborhoods
and
that
innovative
policies
are
needed
to
ensure
that
we
are
building
future
neighborhoods
resilient
to
flooding
that
maintain
their
value
in
spite
of
future
challenges.
In
order
to
achieve
this
goal,
we'll
need
more
innovative
zoning
and
we'll
need
more
stringent
land
use
policies,
stringent
stormwater
design
standards
to
protect
the
quality
of
life
and
financial
investments
of
the
residents
of
Charleston.
We
have
to
be
proactive.
Q
Floodplains
cover
nearly
60%
of
the
landscape
of
the
city
of
Charleston.
We
need
to
stop
developing
in
the
floodplain.
Now
is
the
time
to
apply
science
and
policies
that
can
accommodate
the
growth
we
know
is
coming
without
exacerbating
flooding
and
no
fill
ordinance
within
the
city
would
be
a
great
place
to
start
not
manipulating
the
natural
services
that
were
provided
by
things
like
drainage
basins.
Q
H
R
S
I
have
a
vested
interest
not
only
as
a
property
owner,
but
as
a
Realtor
I
have
a
fiduciary
responsibility
to
my
clients
to
sell
in
an
area
where
the
government
takes
care
of
the
land
and
allows
safe,
permitting
I
have
a
particular
concern
with
a
specific
neighborhood
at
a
TRC
meeting,
January
17th
developer
stated
that
they
tried
to
work
with
the
neighbors,
but
this
was
not
my
experience
and
we're
right
next
door,
where
the
adjacent
property
we
haven't
been,
we've
tried
to
reach
out
to
developer,
but
to
no
avail.
They
haven't
worked
with
it.
S
I
have
it
on
good
authority
that
an
l-shaped
pipe
and
the
design
is
not
even
the
other
developer
will
not
speak
to
me
to
be
able
to
overcome
my
objections.
This
is
even
after
the
inch
his
engineer
offered
to
speak
with
me.
The
development
proposes
three
drainage
ponds,
collecting
55,
plus
acres
in
stormwater,
runoff,
a
note
plan
for
filtration
or
hazardous
waste
removal.
When
we
already
have
seen
oil
in
the
ditches
and
I
have
experienced
property
management,
that
tells
me
this
is
not
a
good
idea.
S
The
drainage
before
and
after
the
development
have
proven
faulty
and
in
my
private
engineers,
stated
that
it
desperately
needs
to
be
addressed.
The
wamba
studies
will
address
such
needs
to
happen,
so
our
engineers
can
know
what
to
ask
for
from
the
development
they
can't
know
what
the
mark
is
until
they
have
this,
and
the
mark
cannot
be
missed.
The
developers
homes
are
for
small
fraction
of
our
overall
community.
S
It's
a
small
sacrifice
of
the
developer
to
hold
off
until
the
thousand
of
us
who
could
be
affected
by
a
land
disturbance,
sign
development
as
far
as
money.
In
my
travels,
where
I've
been
the
UK
in
New
Jersey
Florida
Orange,
County,
California,
Delaware,
Chesapeake
Manhattan,
their
line
places
that
have
tolls
and
I've
never
heard.
You
talk
about
tolls
that
thank.
I
T
Everyone
least
my
wife
says
that
mark
nap,
I
told
you
so
but
20
years
ago,
those
of
you
that
can
remember
you
know
the
storm
water
thing
is
but
bike
just
biting
you
in
the
rear.
Now
a
couple
things
I
noticed
number
one.
You
guys
keep
doing,
studies
and
I'm
with
don't
spend
white
you're
wasting
your
money.
These
engineers
are
just
soaking
you
for
this
dump.
It's
simple
solutions:
that's
what
the
Dutch
do.
T
It's
all
simple,
they're
soaking
you
left
and
right
with
these
studies,
if
you
don't
have
people
in
Sutton
inside
and
your
staff,
that
can
do
these
things,
you
need
to
fire
people
and
get
people
that
can
they're
not
that
hard
and
then
again,
I
see
another
700
thousand
dollar
contract
go
to
over
8
million
I
want
to
sign
up
for
this
program.
I
mean
one
change
order
and
you
add
8
million
dollars
to
it.
I
would
jump
on
that,
but
I,
don't
know
why
you
allow
this
I.
Don't
know
why
somebody
in
investigating
this.
T
Maybe
it's
a
weird
contract.
Where
you
do
this
sort
of
thing
mm-hmm.
Let
me
tell
you
the
engineers
today:
very
few
of
them
are
worth
their
weight.
I'm
telling
you
I
deal
with
them
every
day,
and
they
and
it's
you
know
they
draw
it
they're,
not
responsible
and
that's
their
attitude.
You
really
need
to
start
looking
for
different
engineers,
people
that
really
want
to
do
the
job.
Thank.
U
U
The
consulate
general
from
Barbados
will
be
here,
February
2nd
through
the
25th.
He
arrives
on
a
Friday
and
departs
Monday
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
can
ratify
our
Barbados
sister
city
partnership
that
we
had
discussed
when
they
were
here
in
May
last
year.
The
other
thing
is,
and
so
he
reaiiy
die
to
see.
Councilman
Griffin,
if
you
and
I
can
connect
on
that.
U
Think
of
that
as
an
option,
gentlemen,
then,
when
I
got
off
the
plane,
they
said
they
wanted
to
do
a
sister
city
with
Charleston.
I
was
up
to
my
eyes
and
alligators
last
year
trying
to
get
a
template
done
for
our
mission
to
Panama,
which
we
did
in
collaboration
with
Department
of
Commerce
and
which
was
highly
successful
so
now
I'm
able
to
focus
on
Doha.
They
have
been
working
with
me
closely.
It's
time.
H
U
They
want
to
invite
us
to
a
delegation
to
Doha
in
April
okay,
so
we
need
to
sign
this
and
I
need
to
find
somebody
on
City
Council
to
be
the
Doha
City
Council
liaison.
Also
Michael
Moore
would
like
to
do
one
with
Sierra
Leone,
free
tone:
Freetown
Sierra
Leone,
with
the
International
African
American
Museum,
so
I'm
going
to
need
a
city
council
person
for
that
as
well
and
again,
thank
you
so
much
as
you
know,
sister
cities,
five
hundred
and
twenty
five
dollar.
E
U
V
Liberty
and
justice
for
all-
let's
say
it
slowly
again,
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
My
name
is
Denise
fu,
Bilu
and
West
Ashley
and
I'm,
hoping
that
City
Council
will
endorse
Equal
Rights
Amendment
I
wanted
to
add
to
some
statistics.
Women
start
at
a
disadvantage
in
terms
of
wages
from
fifty
to
eighty
cents
on
the
dollar
compared,
but
the
real
tragedy
is
by
age.
V
50,
women
and
people
of
color
are
making
fifty
percent
of
what
men
are
making
I
work
with
Meals
on
Wheels
in
the
afternoon,
I'm
a
lowly
person
there,
but
69
percent
of
our
meals
are
delivered
to
women
that
are
homebound
and
very
poor,
and
those
are
women
that
have
a
place
to
live.
It
doesn't
count
the
people
that
are
on
the
street,
the
women
on
the
street,
the
women
in
tents
that
don't
have
a
place
to
live
in
the
United
States
history.
Women
are
the
poorest.
V
V
Supporting
the
equal
rights
meant,
it
would
be
one
way
of
doing
that
right
now
we
ranked
in
the
top
10
of
both
senior
poverty
and
senior
hunger,
and
if
we
can't
properly
take
care
of
the
men
and
women
that
have
worked
for
us
over
the
years
by
giving
them
equal
rights
and
equal
access
under
the
law,
then
we
have
failed
and
being
a
global
leader.
So
please
support
the
Equal
Rights
Amendment
and
make
us
proud.
Thank
you.
W
Hi
good
evening,
my
name's
Andrea,
skank
and
I
live
at
26,
Mary
and
I
am
here
also
as
a
member
of
the
Commission
on
women
to
talk
about
the
ER.
A
and
interestingly
I
didn't
realize
this,
the
ER
a
doesn't
say
anything
about
women.
It's
equality
of
rights
under
the
law
shall
not
be
denied
or
abridged
by
the
US
or
any
State
on
account
of
sex.
So
it's
really
not
about
for
women
or
for
men.
It's
just
saying
that
we
should
all
be
equal
part
of
my
job.
W
My
day,
job
is
helping
organizations
with
governance
and,
as
Denise
just
mentioned,
our
pledge
says
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
Yet
our
laws
don't
allow
for
that.
So
I
hope
that
we
can
make
history
I
hope
that
you
will
encourage
our
state
legislature
to
pass
the
resolution
so
that
we
can
finally
get
the
ER
a
passed
and,
as
mr.
singleton
noted,
we're
a
model
of
excellence.
So,
let's
set
the
standard.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
X
H
A
A
You
very
much
did
we
miss
anyone.
Did
anybody
sign
up
who
hasn't
been
called
or
would
like
to
say
a
word
to
Council
this
evening?
So
that's
the
end
of
our
citizens
participation
period.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
participating
and
sharing
with
us
next
we'll
be,
in
fact
our
report
from
the
Commission
on
women
so
proud
that
we
have
one
here
in
the
city
of
Charleston
and
represented
by
also
by
council
member
Jackson
on
that
Commission.
But
we're
going
to
call
forth
the
chairperson
of
the
Commission
jenna
robinson,
Alterman,
Thank.
X
You
meryt,
Jacqueline,
Berg
and
I
do
want
to
recognize
council
member
Jackson
is
the
vice
chair
of
our
Commission
you've
heard
from
us.
Several
people
I
want
to
give
you
just
a
few
little
points,
because
I
think
this
is
really
important
and
I
think
it
could
allow
the
city
of
Charleston
to
make
another
major
leap.
X
Our
Commission
voted
unanimously
to
forward
you,
this
resolution
showing
support
for
the
current
bills
in
the
South
Carolina
legislature.
There
currently
two
of
them.
We
also
have
the
support
of
several
other
organizations
that
literally
represent
thousands
of
women
in
the
community
and
around
the
state,
and
they
are
the
League
of
Women
Voters,
the
Center
for
Women,
the
Sophia
Institute,
the
Tri
County
Women's
project,
the
YWCA,
the
American
Association
of
University
Women,
and
the
women's
rights
in
a
Powerman
network.
X
I'd
like
to
ask
my
fellow
Commission
members,
which
view
would
stand
and
come
join
me
up
here.
We
believe
that
women
deserve
full
and
equal
rights
in
the
US
Constitution.
The
only
right
that
is
guaranteed
to
women
in
our
Constitution
is
the
right
to
vote.
That's
it
we're
asking
you
to
support
the
concept
of
equal
rights,
as
you
did
a
year
ago,
when
you
adopted
the
resolution
in
support
of
the
UN
Convention
to
eliminate
discrimination
against
women
and
in
that
resolution
that
you
adopted
unanimously.
X
It's
stated,
whereas
the
Charleston
City
Council
desires
that
women
and
girls
who
live
in
the
city
of
Charleston
enjoy
all
the
rights
privileges
and
remedies
that
are
bestowed
on
all
people
in
the
United
States,
no
matter
their
race,
national
origin,
gender
or
religious
belief,
and
declares
that
Charleston
South
Carolina
is
a
city
that
shall
not
tolerate
discrimination
against
women
or
girls.
Adopting
the
resolution
in
support
of
the
ER
a
is
your
next
step
in
supporting
equal
rights
for
the
women
of
this
community.
X
Most
Americans
think
the
ER
a
is
already
in
the
in
the
Constitution
about
90
percent
of
them.
Unfortunately,
with
the
resurgence
of
the
me2
movement,
which
is
really
highlighting
the
second-class
treatment
of
many
women,
the
ER
a
is
really
needed.
Now
more
than
ever,
a
former
Supreme
Court
Justice
Antonin
Scalia,
was
asked
about
the
ER
a
in
the
Constitution,
and
he
said.
Certainly,
the
Constitution
does
not
require
discrimination
on
the
basis
of
sex.
The
only
issue
is
whether
it
prohibits
it.
X
It
doesn't
the
ER
a
would
expand
legal
protections
for
women
and
the
biggest
impact
would
be
in
that
area
of
pay,
equity,
women
and
children.
Of
the
vast
majority
of
persons
in
poverty
in
the
US
and
despite
laws
guaranteeing
equal
pay
for
equal
work,
women
aren't
average
are
making
those
low
salaries
that
Denise
referred
to
in
South
Carolina.
If
the
current
trend
continue,
women
will
not
see
pay
equity
until
2088
69
years.
From
now
do
the
figure
of
the
tax
that
would
come
out
of
those
years?
X
I
A
Y
A
Would
also
like
to
just
shout
out
to
our
representative
peter
mccoy,
whose
chair
of
the
Judiciary
Committee
he'll
be
a
key
figure
in
the
passage
of
this
in
Columbia
and,
although
he
wasn't
mentioned
and
I'm
sure
there,
many
other
sponsors
but
I
know
that
representative
Leon
stavrinakis
is
also
a
sponsor,
along
with
representative
Gilda
Cobb
hunter.
So
our
thanks
to
them,
and
congratulations
and
thanks
for
their
leadership
on
those
this
on
this
issue,
councilmember
Waring,
Thank,.
Z
You,
mr.
mayor,
you
know
the
minority
sitting
on
this
council
I
mean
the
law
said
that
we
couldn't
be
here
decades
ago.
When
I
see
a
lot
of
times.
We
think
about
our
forefathers
I,
find
it
hard
to
gather.
How
could
you
not
let
your
mother
have
the
right
to
vote?
I,
cannot
let
your
wife
not
have
the
right
to
vote
on
hold
office,
so
I
feel
privileged
to
be
able
to
cast
a
vote
today
and
favor
this.
But
what
I
would
also
ask
is
that
we
go
further.
Z
All
of
us
have
connections
around
this
table.
I
would
hope
we
would
go
to
County
Council
at
this
to
call
the
elected
officials
that
we
know
that
our
allies
and
ask
them
in
particular
the
ones
in
Colombia
to
support
this.
Who,
amongst
us,
didn't
feel
proud
when
the
Confederate
flag
came
off
the
domes
or
when
the
flag
came
off
the
pole,
it
would
be
so
awesome
at
the
state
of
South.
Carolina
could
be
one
of
the
final
three
that
would
lead
to
ratification
of
this
amendment.
Z
So
I
applaud
these
women
put
enthusiasm
that
they
have,
but
six
degrees
of
separation
puts
us
in
contact
with
so
many
other
people.
So
I
would
hope
that
it
just
doesn't
end
with
this
resolution
tonight
that
we
would
use
the
influences
in
the
context
that
we
do
have
with
our
legislators,
legislatures
and
the
General
Assembly
and,
of
course,
the
state
Senate.
So
thank
you,
ladies
for
what
you've
done
it
all
ended
up
with.
Thank.
A
You
but
anyone
else
like
to
be
heard,
so
we
now
vote
to
encourage
and
support
the
timely
passage
by
the
South
Carolina
legislature
of
the
Equal
Rights
Amendment
to
the
United
States
Constitution,
making
South
Carolina
the
final
state
required
to
ratify
the
amendment
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
E
A
AA
Edition
the
1919
edition
good
afternoon,
Council
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
give
you
a
very
short
overview
of
the
document
that
I
believe
you
were
given
last
week
and
that
you're
going
to
be
asked
to
pretty
much
adopt
here.
So
what's
important
to
know
about
the
20:19
is
that
it
continues
and
builds
from
the
2015
strategy
and
one
of
the
things
that
I'm,
very
proud
of
and
I
think
our
team
here
in
the
city
is
very
proud
of.
AA
Is
that
this
document
responds
to
a
lot
of
the
citizen
feedback
that
we
received
over
the
last
three
years.
When
we
wrote
the
2015
document,
we
said
we
would
do
that,
and
we've
done
that
and
I'll
point
out
a
little
later,
how
we
we
made
sure
we
did
that
continues
our
reliance
on
science
and
data.
We
said
we
would
do
that,
and
we've
done
that
what's
new
in
here
is
it
outlines
five
components:
kind
of
five
buckets
that
we,
as
a
city
staff,
find
ourselves
doing
work
to
support
this
strategy.
It
outlines
very
extensively.
AA
Our
initiatives
that
all
of
the
city
departments
are
doing
gives
examples
talks
a
little
bit
about
those
studies
and
initiatives
and
looking
forward
and
I
am
going
to
spend
some
time
talking
about
that
when
we
get
there.
But
one
of
the
key
issues
here
is
that
this
document
now
has
asked
for
by
the
citizens
is
completely
web-enabled.
AA
Everything
on
it
is
there
for
people
to
see.
I
cannot
take
credit
for
that.
I've
got
to
give
credit
to
Tracey
McKee
and
Katie
McCain,
who
really
have
worked
almost
tirelessly
for
about
two
weeks
to
get
that
up
and
running,
but
that
is
available.
All
of
the
information
is
available
to
every
one
of
our
citizens,
and
it
ties
right
back
to
this,
and,
lastly,
is
that
this
has
been
a
very
collaborative
document.
We've
had
probably
three
opportunities
before
the
sustainability
and
resilience
committee.
AA
Well,
as
we've
met
with
other
groups
in
the
city,
we've
solicited
their
feedback
and
made
adjustments
based
on
their
feedback.
Just
want
to
start
I
want
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
with
this
unless
you
want
to,
but
we
said
we're
gonna
stay
with
the
Charleston
Harbor.
We
stay
with
the
Charleston
Harbor
sea
level
continues
to
rise
in
Charleston
Harbor.
AA
It
just
does
and
it's
accelerating
the
projections
that
came
out
in
the
fourth
Climate
Assessment
that
just
released
in
2018
by
NOAA
show
that
and
again
using
the
intermediate
graph
that
the
projections
for
sea-level
rise
in
the
next
50
years
in
Charleston
have
increased
from
our
2015
study.
Okay,
it's
we've
upped
it
by
a
half
a
foot
because
that's
what
the
document
shows.
That's
the
same
document
we
used
in
2015
we're
using
it
again
in
2018
and
then
here
is
again
our
what
used
to
be
called
nuisance
flooding
under
the
current
administration.
AA
We
don't
call
it
that
anymore
and
when
I
say
that's
the
federal
administration,
we
call
it
minor
coastal
flooding.
So
those
are
the
disruption
flooding
days
and
you
can
see
the
bottom.
The
yellow
is
actually
observed.
You
can
see
where
that's
trending
and
it's
what's
interesting
about
that
is,
if
you
look
at
it's
right
there
on
the
intermediate
scale,
which
correlates
back
to
the
previous
two
graphs
that
I
showed
you.
AA
So
all
of
this
kind
of
lines
up
very
nice
from
a
science
standpoint
in
the
projections
that
were
having
and
it's
exactly
what
we're
seeing
the
five
critical
components
as
we
were
looking
at
this
over
the
past
three
years
and
we've
had
a
team
working
on
this.
We've
realized
that
it's
really
five
areas
of
work
that
the
city
has
one
is
resources.
We
just
had
a
great
discussion
about
resources
and,
where
they're
coming
from
that's
not
going
to
go
away,
that's
going
to
continue
to
be
there.
AA
Land-Use
I
jumped
to
land
use
because
really
land
use
is
about
where
you
build
and
what
you
built
and
how
you
built,
and
that's
what
it's
about
going
forward.
All
of
the
literature
that's
being
published
today
about
anything
in
the
future
talks
about
that
governance.
That's
our
CRS
system!
That's
our
stormwater
regulations!
We've
got
to
get
that
right
and
his
staff
members
and
as
a
city,
we've
got
to
be
doing
that
and
be
on
the
cutting
edge
for
the
documents
that
are
out
there.
The
information
that's
available,
obviously,
infrastructure.
In
this
city.
AA
We
put
a
lot
of
emphasis
on
infrastructure,
but
I
would
argue
that
it's
all
five
that
make
a
city
well
prepared
for
flooding
and
sea
level
and
then
last
is
the
outreach
portion,
which
is
become
very
important
as
we've
kind
of
socialized.
This
around
one
common
theme
we
hear
from
the
citizens
over
and
over
again
is
that
the
information
is
not
getting
out
there,
so
we're
trying
really
hard
to
find
ways
to
get
it
out
there
to
both
educate
our
citizens.
AA
This
is
going
to
be
new.
This
is
going
to
be
up
and
live
on
a
website.
These
are
the
initiatives
that
the
city
staff
is
working
on.
These
are
either
in
progress,
they're,
completed
or
they're
underway.
This
is
going
to
be
out
there
for
all
the
citizens
to
see
these
can
be
attitude
detracted
from
and
then
we're
actually
in
the
future
actually
going
to
do
some
data
mining
and
data
analysis
on
this.
As
we
go
forward
initiative
examples,
so
I
want
to
go
through
some
of
these
initiatives.
AA
We're
going
to
talk
about
infrastructure,
our
drainage
improvement
projects,
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
to
give
again.
The
team
of
Tracy
and
Katie
a
lot
of
credit
for
there's
a
infrastructure
story
map
up
where
every
infrastructure
project
on
the
city
over
I
think
it's
two
hundred
thousand
is
now
available
for
the
citizens
to
see
where
it
is
how
much
money
is
being
spent
on
it.
It's
on
a
map,
it
moves
all
around
the
city
and
you
can
watch
it
move
all
around
the
city
governance
again.
AA
Strengthening
our
stormwater
regulations
is
a
good
example
of
initiative.
Resources,
touch,
dialogues
and
I'll
come
back
to
those
in
just
a
minute.
Land
use
again
how
we're
going
to
use
the
remaining
land
that
we
have,
and
we
hope
to
give
you
some
answers,
or
at
least
to
help
to
some
answers
with
that.
With
another
initiative
that
we'll
be
kicking
off
and
then
obviously
outreach
and
our
new
web
portal
is,
the
dock
is
the
tool
one
of
the
tools
that
we're
going
to
use.
AA
In
addition
to
getting
out
this
talks
a
little
bit
more
about
the
story.
Map
and
again
I
can't
tell
you
how
interesting
this
is.
If
you
want
to
go
home
log
on
take
a
look
at
this,
just
go
through.
That
will
show
you
all
of
the
work
that's
being
done
in
the
city
and
it's
actually
quite
work,
that's
being
done
in
the
city
when
you,
when
you
start
to
look
at
it
on
the
map,
and
you
start
to
add
up
the
dollars
and
cents.
AA
It's
a
lot
of
work
and
again
it's
all
over
the
city,
the
again
the
web
portal
and
this.
The
idea
here
is
that
a
citizen
only
has
one
place
to
go
to
get
all
the
information
they
need
about
flooding,
and
that
was
something
that
citizens
wanted
and
they
wanted
it
desperately
and
we're
trying
to
put
that
all
there,
everything
that
we
can
put
there
we're
trying
to
put
there,
and
so
our
citizens
can
reach
into
that
and
fight
it.
So
again,
a
ton
of
work
being
done.
AA
I
want
to
spend
just
a
minute
here,
looking
and
planning
forward,
because
the
the
conversation
and
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
step
out
here
a
little
bit
and
say
the
conversation
that
you
all
just
had
a
hope.
I
hope.
The
work
here
precludes
that
from
ever
happening
again
because
that's
the
intent
so
industry
best
practices,
academia
research
will
tell
you
that,
in
order
to
decide
what
you're
going
to
do,
you've
got
to
do
your
homework
first.
So
we
are
gonna,
put
our
hazards
and
vulnerability
and
risk
assessment
is
really
the
tool
that
you
start
with.
AA
You
have
to
know
where
your
vulnerabilities
are,
and
you
have
to
know
what
your
risk
is.
Decisions
really
need
to
be
made
on
risk
and
that's
risk
to
your
economy.
Risk
to
your
critical
infrastructures,
risk
to
your
insurability
risk
to
the
economic
vibrancy
of
the
city
based
on
risk
and
we're
gonna.
We
kick
that
project
off,
hopefully
early
March
and
hope
to
have
a
deliverable
to
you
by
the
end
of
the
year.
Then
what
you
do
is
you
begin
to
put
these
other
things
against
that,
and
you
begin
to
buy
down
your
risk.
AA
You
have
a
choice:
do
you
want
to
buy
down
your
risk,
or
do
you
want
to
spend
your
money
in
other
places,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
it
comes
down
to
is
risk
money?
How
do
you
buy
down
your
risk?
That's
based
on
the
literature.
That's
the
way
the
conversations
are
going
to
have
to
be
going
in
the
future
and
I
hope
that
we
can
provide
that
information
to
you
so
that
you'll
be
able
to
use
that
in
the
future.
That's
the
intent!
That's
why
we
have
these
projects
up
here.
AA
I
do
want
to
say
that
when
you
go
out
and
ask
for
money
and
I've
been
out
asking
for
money,
you
need
two
things
or
three
things.
Really,
you
need
a
project.
You
need
the
benefits
of
the
project.
You
need
the
cost
of
the
project.
You
need
the
consequences
of
not
doing
it.
Those
are
the
four
things
that
you
need
without
those
four
things,
people
are
not
interested
in
giving
you
their
money.
All
of
these
things
up
here
are
designed
to
do
that,
and
the
Dutch
dialogues.
AA
It's
a
it's
probably
a
matter
of
semantics,
but
the
Dutch
dialogues
actually
deliver
for
projects,
and
those
are
projects
that
you
could
take
to
the
market
that
you
could
show
to
the
market
that
you
could
go
and
ask
money
for,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
vulnerability
and
risk
assessment
I
talked
to
you
about
that.
The
Hatter
serenity
Gatien
plan
right
now,
FEMA
and
the
state
are
telling
counties
that
they
want
to
see.
Cities
have
hazard
mitigation
plans
that
are
more
specific
to
their
city
needs
that
we
have
a
FEMA
grant
for
that.
AA
We
got
last
year
that
will
be
kicking
off
so
FEMA's
paying
75
percent
of
that
the
Army
Corps
of
engineer
peninsula
flood
study.
Again.
That
goes
back
to
the
risk
and
the
game.
The
reason
that
that
is
peninsula
specific
because
we
asked
for
the
church
creek
area
to
be
studied
as
well,
is
because
you
have
to
have
a
certain
economic
cost-benefit
in
order
for
the
Army
Corps
to
come
in
they're
gonna
study
this
for
a
year.
AA
They're
gonna
evaluate
it
for
two
years,
but
at
the
end
of
the
year,
we're
gonna
have
some
darn
good
projects,
and
it's
already
engineered
that
have
already
been
studied
that
we
can
take
to
the
market
once
that
project
is
done
and
that's
going
to
look
at
protection
from
storm
surge
around
the
peninsula
and
I.
Think
what
we'll
find
is
that
a
lot
of
our
risk
will
end
up
on
the
peninsula,
just
because
of
the
threats
because
of
the
economic
activity,
because
of
all
the
things
that
we
currently
have
going
through
the
peninsula.
AA
Actually,
the
team
they're
going
to
come
in
and
in
terms
of
the
infrastructure
projects,
begin
to
put
projects
against
what
our
risks
are
and
that
will
essentially
be
up
to
council,
decide
how
you
buy
down
your
risk.
But
the
industry
is
looking
at
this
I've.
Just
read
a
really
good
paper
on
it
and
I'm.
AA
Pretty
I
was
actually
glad
to
hear
your
discussion,
but
I'm
actually
glad
that
I
was
up
presenting
this
after
it,
because
that's
really
the
future
for
cities
like
ours
that
are
living
along
the
coast
that
are
facing
these
threats
of
flooding
from
all
sources
and
then
sea-level
rise,
which
just
makes
all
of
it
worse
and
then.
Finally,
again
it's
web-enabled
and
with
that
I'll
ask
answer
any
questions.
Sir.
B
AB
Was
just
thinking
about
this?
Why
I
watch,
watches
ever
I
have
a
question
and
kind
of
a
comment?
What
my
first
comment
is
a
little
kind
of
a
rhetorical
question
too,
but
we
just
touched
on
the
Dutch
dialogues,
and
this
is
one
of
the
looking
and
planning
forward.
One
of
the
big
progress
spotlights,
but
we
how
much
money
did
we
spend
on
West
End,
Sampson,
study
of
church
streets,
six
hundred
thousand
and
now
this?
AB
What
would
what's
gonna
happen
if
the
Dutch
come
back
and
say
that
we
need
to
go
a
different
route
than
what
Western
and
Sampson
said,
as
we've
already
started,
approving
projects
over
there?
That
to
me
is
going
to
be
very,
very
scary,
that's
just
something
to
think
about
and
and
part
of
what
council
and
white
said
about
doing
so
many
studies.
Eventually,
when
you
do
so
many,
you
could
probably
start
contradicting
yourself.
Our
Weston
and
Sampson.
It
gonna
be
a
part
of
the
discussion.
Well,
I
got.
AA
Even
better
news
for
you,
Wesson
and
Sampson
was
at
the
table
at
the
very
beginning
and
they've
spent
probably
six
hours
with
them
already
going
through
their
studies.
The
work
that
they're
proposing
as
they
look
to
turn
that
into
what
might
be
a
project
that
we
could
then
take
to
the
market
they're,
actually
working
together.
They
absolutely
have
been
working
together,
in
fact
missed
out
at
Church.
Creek
Samson
did
a
tour
with
the
mayor.
I
think
you
were
there
when
they
did
the
press
conference
out
there,
I.
A
Z
AC
AC
What
you're
going
to
have
to
do
is
you
mentioned
at
the
very
end
that
this
is
something
that
affects
cities,
you
use
the
plural
or,
and
it's
true
and
the
only
way
to
go
to
market
I
think
and
bring
this
to
a
level
where
you
can
get
the
funding
to
take
this,
as
sooner
or
later,
there
has
to
be
a
document
that
this
gets
plugged
into.
I
just
wrote
it
down
to
something
like
the
coastal,
Atlantic,
flooding
and
sea
ride
strategy.
I
mean
it's
got
a
plug
in
to
the
entire
coast.
AC
That's
the
only
way
you're
gonna
get
the
political
power
and
will
to
get
infrastructure
that
works
so
along
the
whole
coast.
We're
just
we're
scalable,
because
we're
geographically
pretty
small
but
we're
just
like
many
other
places
facing
the
same
issues
and
the
way
to
get
after
this
is
collectively
so
what's
good
for
Charleston
should
be
good
for
others
and
vice-versa
and
I.
Think
that's
where
you
need
to
take
this
to
the
market.
You
need
to
take
Charleston
the
market
and
get
the
Atlantic
flooding
Alliance
going.
The.
AD
A
AE
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
you
know
it's
been
a
privilege,
yeah
sustainability,
resiliency
committee,
as
one
of
the
council
representatives
I,
think
I
think
we
have
an
amazing
set
of
good
circumstances.
You
know
in
in
a
hard
challenge
that
will
never
end
in
our
lifetime,
but
I,
but
I
do
think
that
we
are
so
well
positioned
to
take
advantage
of
all
of
the
expertise.
That's
already
here
in
Charleston
with
the
NOAA
and
the
DNR
and
the
D
hacks
of
the
world,
and
one
thing
I
went
to
a
conference,
you
were
there
mr.
AE
We've
got
an
amazing
challenge
to
face
all
of
us,
but
the
sacrifices
that
it's
gonna
entail,
but
but
we've
come
just
a
long
way
in
just
the
short
time
since,
whenever
you
were
still
in
your
part-time
position,
and
we
were
listening
to
the
king
tide
awareness
team,
when
was
that
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
two
years
ago,
at
the
most
and
that
feels
like
elementary
school
and
now
we're
sort
of,
like
you
know,
entering
college,
so
I
congratulate
everyone.
Who's
put
all
the
efforts
that
they
have
into
this
I
personally,
find
it
fascinating.
AE
Y
You
mr.
mayor
mark
and
you
when
an
earlier
screen,
you
had
up
there
the
citizen
portal,
so
she
can
call
in
and
and
I'm
looking
on,
page
12
of
the
report,
and
we
talk
about
new
and
ongoing
action
items
with
the
GPS
system,
that's
in
place.
So
this
is
something
we
discussed
yesterday
at
our
public
works
committee.
So
when,
when
citizens
have
a
an
issue,
that's
just
a
maintenance
issue
or
cleanup
issue.
How
will
we
be
tracking
that
so
that
they
call
in
and
say,
I
live
on,
123
Maple
Street
and
it
ditches?
Y
AA
I'm
gonna
take
a
guess:
I'm
gonna
take
a
stab
at
it,
educated
guess,
because
I
don't
normally
do
stormwater,
ditch
cleaning,
but
what
I'm
gonna
say
is
we're
driving
everyone
to
our
call
center
and
our
call
center
enters
it
into
the
the
Gov
system
that
we've
just
purchased
and
just
got
online,
and
it's
tracked
through
that
system.
Well,.
Y
AF
A
You
give
count
on
our
call
center
and
in
new
ways
that
we've
come
in
online
this
month
and
how
to
communicate
with
our
call
center
and
maybe
a
little
review
of
the
kind
of
calls
they've
been
getting
their
responses.
We're
giving.
Because
it's
been
up
and
running
about
nine
months
now
and
they're
really
doing
a
terrific
job.
Councilmember
Wagner.
O
B
It's
very
clear
that
we're
going
to
increase
king
tides,
all
of
that
that's
been
out
there
for
years
and
we're
seeing
that
mm-hmm
we're
about
half
of
the
days
as
we
are.
We
will
flood
pretty
much
now
put
this
in
to
where
I
can
explain
this
to
the
general
constituency.
Oh
my
god,
it's
gonna
be
ten
feet
higher.
Does
that
mean
if
I'm
at
ten
feet
above
sea
level,
cuz
I'm
going
to
be
at
sea
level,
or
is
that
kind
of
like
the
tsunami
effect
right?
Here?
B
AA
Don't
think
we're
gonna
see
a
ten-foot
wall
of
water
show
up
on
the
shore
and
I.
Think
what's
interesting.
Is
that
as
we're
finding
out
it's
different
everywhere,
you
go
in
the
city
depending
on
the
day,
depending
on
the
wind,
depending
on
the
tide,
depending
all
those
factors,
it
can
be
different
in
the
same
spot
on
different
days,
but
specifically
to
answer
your
question.
Two
feet
of
sea
level
rise
does
not
necessarily
mean
that
it'll
be
two
foot
higher
in
any
given
spot.
AA
A
My
motion
to
approve
and
I
will
I
would
just
like
to
thank
mark
and
Katie.
That's
Katie
here,
he's
not
sitting
in
that
now.
She's,
really
a
tremendous
amount
of
excellent
work
into
this,
but
bend
a
truly
collaborative
effort.
I
think
it's
very
comprehensive
and
it
is
a
living
document
recommendations
going
forward.
For
example,
when
the
initial
sea
level
rise
strategy
was
passed
by
this
council
in
2015.
A
The
estimate
based
on
the
science
at
that
time
was
that
in
50
years
to
sea
level
rise
would
be
our
best
guess
of
one
and
a
half
to
two
and
a
half
feet
already,
just
in
a
four
year
period.
We're
up
upgrading
our
estimate
that
it
will
now
be
two
to
three
feet
so
five
years
from
now.
Hopefully
it
won't
go
any
higher
just,
but
it
could
so.
This
is
the
kind
of
strategies
and
comprehends
have
been
nature
that
it's
alive
will
be
coming
back
and,
following
these
things,
revising
it
from
time
to
time.
A
AG
Merit
council
first
I'd
like
to
recognize
that
this
is
Black
History
Month
and
it's
something
that
all
Americans
should
be
cognizant
of.
I
didn't
want
to
leave
this
place
without
acknowledging
that
the
Committee
on
recreation
met
on
February
7th
at
1
o'clock,
and
we
had
several
items
on
the
agenda.
However,
we
didn't
complete
the
agenda,
but
there
are
some
items
that
would
require
this
body's
action.
The
first
item
is
the
age
requirement,
change
to
the
Palmetto
audison
ordinance,
and
we
do
have
with
us
here.
AH
As
you
know,
as
of
August
last
year,
we
formulated
a
task
force
of
25
community
members
to
include
businesses
residents,
members
of
the
artisan
program,
staff,
educators
and
one
of
the
recommendation
was
to
increase
the
age
to
high
school
graduates
or
18
years
of
age.
One
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
do
is
to
provide
a
robust
artisan
program
and
we're
going
to
come
back
and
provide
you
with
complete
details,
and
so
one
of
the
first
thing
was
age:
change
for
height
up
to
high
school
graduates
and
age.
AH
AI
There
was
a
move
just
to
get
rid
of
their
here's.
Young
people
have
done
such
a
good
job
and
put
the
city
on
the
map
for
year.
Every
time
I
talk
about
the
world
fellow
my
mind.
Come
to
this
Dorothy
Williams
see
what
the
head
of
children
post
Emporia
12
years
ago.
She
called
me
sister,
Casa,
Luis
y'all
got
to
do
something
for
those
young
people.
Could
they
go
papa
randl's
young
people
at
the
King
Street,
because
most
of
that
time,
that
you
staying
on
K
Street
but
her
words
I
mean
those
kids
are
good.
AI
Kids,
they're,
really
good
children
and
we
need
to
do
something.
I
went
to
the
mayor
and
they've
got
to
be
feeling
to
start
a
program
at
the
community
center
to
help
with
these
children
and
years
later,
the
panop
rover
to
chip
into
it.
No
good
thank
God,
you
came
in
and
y'all
are
working
with
them.
I
want
to
thank
the
Commission,
we're
really
working
hard
and
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
working
with.
You
hope.
Y'all
continue
to
work
to
empower
these
young
people,
but
it
could
be
young
entrepreneurs
one
day.
AG
I
would
also
like
to
say,
I'm
very
excited
because
he,
as
you
read
the
report
that
was
developed,
we're
really
taking
this
to
a
totally
different
level,
we're
really
talking
economic
development
and
teaching
our
children,
skills
of
entrepreneurship,
how
to
approach
the
convention,
guro
hotels,
etc,
etc.
So
we're
really
talking
folks
about
something
that
really
really
expands
and
provides
opportunity
for
our
children
and
I'd
like
to
take
my
hat
off
to
well.
AH
AH
The
same
report
that
we
provided
in
writing
with
all
the
recommendations,
and
so
this
was
one
of
the
first
recommendation-
was
to
increase
to
allow
our
up
to
high
school
graduation
or
a
teen
to
be
able
to
get
their
business
license
to
continue
to
do
their
tasks.
But,
more
importantly,
we
want
to
preserve
and
sustain
a
Gullah
Geechee
tradition
of
Pimentel
artisan,
but
we
want
to
go
beyond
that.
We
want
to
create
the
next
business
leaders.
We
want
to
create
the
next
entrepreneur,
but
we
have
to
start
now.
AG
You
very
much
appreciate
you:
I
want
to
continue
going
through
the
items
before
we
vote
on
them.
If
that's
okay,
because
we-
the
next
item
that
we
discussed,
was
the
naming
of
the
Reverend
Alma,
Dungy
recreation
building
and
we
we
applaud
the
efforts
of
Miss
Dunphy
and
one
thing
that
wasn't
brought
out
when
we
was
honoring,
her
she's
also
a
great
singer.
AG
You
know
one
day
she
gave
me
one
of
her
CDs
and
it
was
like
the
kids
say
off
to
change.
Okay,
really
good.
The
other
items
that
was
brought
before
us
most
of
them
were
discussion
items,
one
Blackwell
Park,
which
is
it's
a
small
acreage
on
James
Island
in
district
6
effort
led
by
council
woman
Jackson
as
a
part
of
the
rethinking,
Bali
Road
and
the
Recreation
Committee
supported
it
the
same
for
the
long
barrel
exchange
agreement
and,
of
course
all
this
stuff
has
to
go
to
real
estate,
and
we
made
that
clear.
A
AJ
A
All
right
any
other
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
now.
I
was
remiss
in
not
making
an
announcement
earlier.
I
didn't
write
it
down
so
on
I,
just
remembered
and
and
most
of
our
citizens
have
gone,
but
for
the
benefit
of
those
remaining
in
particularly
for
council.
A
We
we
have
the
honor
as
a
city
to
have
a
new
naval
vessel
being
named
after
our
city,
the
USS
Charleston,
and
the
commissioning
of
this
vessel
will
be
at
Columbus
Street
terminal
on
Saturday
March,
the
second,
it's
been
a
part
of
our
budget
for
this
year.
We're
going
to
host
a
breakfast
that
morning
and
all
like
that.
I
mention
it,
because
you
must
register
online
to
to
be
invited.
It's
no
charge,
but
everyone
who
wants
to
attend
needs
to
go
online
and,
by
the
end
of
the
day
on
Thursday
they
having
a
cutoff.
A
A
AK
Case
we
had
a
special
special
meeting
of
the
City
Committee
on
city
council,
our
hell
Thursday
February,
7th
at
3
p.m.
first
number
one.
We
have
revealed
opportunities
own
proposal
with
no
item
was
deferred,
but
the
CDR
committee
asked
the
planning
staff
to
bring
back
to
them
the
specific
strategy
that
could
be
implemented
as
a
result
of
opportunities
or
mnek
initiative
plan
staff
by
the
1
page
page
a
list
of
the
proposed
zoning
initiative
that
could
be
used
in
the
areas
of
opportunity
zones,
so
that
was
their
gonna,
bring.
AK
That
back
to
the
trivia
committee
number
two:
a
discussion
of
the
hugest
street
streetscape
problem.
That
item
was
not
approved
present
as
it
was
presented
at
the
time
at
the
committee.
The
mayor
advised
that
he
had
written
a
letter
requesting
that
the
agreement
was
amended
to
allow
funds
for
the
project
to
be
redirected
to
affordable
housing.
The
request
was
denied
by
the
supplier,
G
ot
and
the
federal
highway
administration.
AK
The
city
committee
voted
to
pursue
an
amendment
to
the
agreement
between
the
city
of
Charleston,
South,
LA,
G
ot,
and
the
federal
highway
administration
by
contacting
congressman
Clyburn
office,
dissented
grant
Lindsey
Graham
office
for
the
support
in
amending
of
the
request.
Consequently,
wearing
made
that
motion,
the
mayor
did
not
agree
with
this
recommendation
in
light
of
the
ongoing
collaboration
with
the
circle.
I
do
t
so
that
would
be
before
council.
AK
This
tonight
number
3
update
to
the
request
for
the
proposal
for
the
Cooper
River
bridge
redevelopment
area
and
a
low
line,
affordable
housing
site,
the
Cooper
River
Bridge
area.
Miss
Johnson
advised
that
three
bits
and
more
knowbut
was
received.
Staff
is
working
with
the
selected
most
responsive
bidder,
as
was
mrs.
Flatiron
partners
and
classic
development
companies
appropriate,
appropriate
doctormick
documents
would
be
presented
to
the
real
estate
and
the
City
Council
in
a
later
date.
In
a
low-lying,
affordable
housing
site
two
bids
and
one
nobody
seemed
to
select
it.
AK
Responsive
responsible
bidder
for
the
site
was
a
Michael
Michael's
cut
development.
Company
staff
is
instituting
the
proper
due
diligence
and
follow-up
number
four.
We
had
a
review
and
approval
request
for
bond
funds.
The
recommendation
of
the
CD
committee
of
City
Council
was
forwarded
to
you
under
separate
cover
for
your
approval.
AK
The
one
amendment
which
was
different
from
the
staff
recommend
recommended
was
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
being
deducted
from
the
city
of
Charleston,
River,
Bridge
redevelopment
area
and
being
awarded
to
Atlantic
housing
for
the
rehabilitation
of
the
Orleans
garden,
which
is
a
hundred
units
that
changes
reflected
on
the
chart
was
sentenced
by
the
clerk's
office.
Funds
will
be
awarded
to
the
development
in
title
tees,
which
subject
to
all
legal
requirements
being
met
by
the
applicants.
AK
Z
AK
The
streets
well,
the
speech,
the
appeal
board
knowledge
because
they
required
us
to
escape
for
us
to
ask
the
staff
here
to
go.
We
want
to
contact
the
very
saw
congressman
to
be
able
to
see
if
they
can
redirect
our
to
try
to
help
us
to
come
if
they
would
make
any
change
that
way,
because,
right
now
they
were
saying
no
good
when
the
mayor's
I'm
in
the
mayor
win
fit.
So
if
people
don't
want
Deb,
you
instructed
them
to
try
to
go
up
it
come
in
something
you
know
what.
Z
AK
AK
A
Right
so
we're
gonna,
both
a
is
coming
back
to
Council
at
a
later
time
with
regarding
the
opportunity
zones.
We
took
no
action
on
that,
so
so
really
what
we
would
be
considering
right
now
with
this
motion
is
all
the
requests
for
the
Cooper
River
Bridge
redevelopment
area
and
for
the
other,
affordable
housing
bond
funding.
C
Z
AL
Thank
You
mayor
members,
council
and
the
community
diploma
committee,
the
members
of
the
committee
did
direct
staff
to
go
and
investigate
further
the
things
that
we
need
to
be
done
to
take
maximum
advantage
of
opportunities
owns
to
facilitate
the
construction
of
affordable
housing
in
those
areas.
We're
gonna
do
that
and
report
back
to
you
next
month.
A
AC
AC
How
that
all
worked,
and
then
the
second
part
of
my
question
is
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
these
projects
around
our
city
projects
or
formulaic
and
the
the
the
entire
program
is
conditioned
on
a
fairly
sizeable
sum
coming
from
these
bond
monies
and
if
we
don't
give
the
full
amount
requested,
only
give
a
half
of
it.
Some
of
those
projects
may
not
go
forward,
I
guess
I,
don't
know
so.
First
off.
How
do
we
score
them
and
then
what
do
we
do
with
projects
that
don't
get
funded
100%?
AM
I'll
answer
your
last
question.
First,
we
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
Yet
until
we
discuss
it
with
the
development
entities
prior
to
doing
that,
we
bring
it
to
you
all
to
make
the
decision
whether
the
amounts
that
the
committee
or
the
bottom
review
committee
allocated
based
on
their
review.
The
applications
was
appropriate.
So
typically,
once
we
bring
it
back
to
or
have
city
committee
of
City
Council
make
a
recommendation,
we
bring
it
to
full
council.
AM
Once
you
make
a
vote,
then
we
determine
and
go
back
to
those
entities
to
say
this
is
what
was
approved.
Will
this
allow
your
project
to
go
forward
and
be
feasible
when
the
underwriting
Review
Committee
looked
at
it
and
made
a
determination
as
to
the
allocation?
They
also
made
other
recommendations
where
some
of
the
development
entities
could
look
at,
for
instance,
their
developer
fee
to
determine
where
they
could
find
other
dollars
to
make
those
projects
more
feasible.
If
that
makes
sense,
so
that
was
the
goal
there
so.
AM
AC
When
we
vote
tonight
and
each
one
of
us
individually
votes,
we're,
then
giving
you
the
authority
to
go
back
to
each
individual
entity
to
talk
with
them
and
essentially
negotiate
a
little
bit
with
them
to
see
where
they
are
we're
not
finalizing
these
funds,
they're
not
locked
into
each
one
of
these
projects
am
I
right
about
that.
That's.
A
You
know
the
kind
of
protection
or
legal
requirement
that
we
need
am
I,
saying
that
well
Susan
yeah,
so
so
before
we
fine
lives
any
dollars
going
to
a
specific
project.
We
will
come
back
to
this
council
again
we're
giving
a
maybe
a
guideline,
but
the
the
ability
for
us
to
now
go
and
make
a
commitment
to,
for
example,
to
180
place
that
we're
putting
willing
to
put
X
dollars
into
your
project
go
see.
If
you
can
get
the
rest
of
your
funding,
that.
AC
Doesn't
it
follow
up
quickly?
I
mean
it
goes
both
ways
if
lytec
goes
away,
that
project
dies
but
again
they're
going
to
need
some
funding
for
lytec
to
be
there
right.
I
mean
they're
gonna,
only
they're
not
going
to
do
100%
light
tech
funding
and
the
difference
between
1
4
%
9%,
all
those
different
formulas
that
go
in
there,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
mean
this
is
a
big
deal.
This
is
a
first
time.
We've
ever
had
a
20
million
dollar
bond
issue
for
affordable
housing.
That's
right.
E
AC
Now,
to
a
point,
we're
actually
thinking
about
projects
that
look
like
some
of
them
actually
may
be
ready
to
go
just
to
so.
We
we
understand
where
those
funds
are
going
and
what
we're
getting,
what
bang
we're
getting
for
the
bucks
that
we're
putting
out
there
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
early
on
is:
these
are
all
basically
grants
from
the
city
right.
These
aren't
loans.
AC
AK
AM
In
most
cases,
and
literally,
all
of
the
applications
that
were
submitted,
they're
also
pursuing
other
funding,
either
9%
or
4%
tax
credits
in
order
to
make
their
deals
come
together.
So
this
enables
them
to
know
what
direction
they're
going
in
relative
to
their
funding
sources
and
where
they
may
need
to
tap
other
funding
sources.
AC
AM
AM
So
within
that
application,
it
literally
went
into
a
bit
more
detail
for
the
applicants
to
disclose
for
us
basically
what
type
of
financing
they
were
going
after,
how
much
of
the
bond
funds
were
required
for
their
project,
20%,
50%
or
more?
What
the
affordability
period
would
be,
basically
their
readiness
to
proceed.
Organizational
summary:
it's
a
whole
list
of
questions.
AM
What
we
determined
as
we
went
through
the
process,
was
that
the
possible
score
was
less
than
what
we
thought
it
would
be
when
we
structured
the
application
and
legal
basically
advised
us
that
we
couldn't
change
the
application
once
it
was
released.
So
we
basically
advised
the
applications.
What
the
possible
point
scores
were
and
basically
scored
them
based
on
that
when
they
came
into
the
office.
So.
E
AC
X
Y
So
when
one
of
these
applicants
came
forward-
and
they
wanted
four
point-
five
million-
and
we
awarded
three
million-
is
that
what
the
understanding
that
that
project
will
still
go
forward?
They
didn't
get
100%
of
their
requested
funding
right,
so
they
got
a
timeline
to
find
that
other
revenue,
I
presume
correct.
You
come
up
with
that.
So
what
happens
in
the
instance
and
they
go
we're
short
thousand
dollars
or
whatever
amount
of
money,
they're
short,
that
we
will
pull
the
money
out
right.
AM
So
if
the
project
cannot
go
forward,
they
would
advise
us
accordingly,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
asked
by
City
Committee
is
to
allow
them
30
days
to
review
that
once
we
get
back
to
them
and
if
it
cannot
work,
they
would
advise
us
at
that
time.
Either
they
can
find
other
funds
or
their
project
will
not
go
forward.
We.
Y
A
AM
A
A
Yeah
speaking
of
mr.
Community
Development
right
here,
we're
making
great
progress
I
understand
with
our
to
go
forward
with
our
Community
Center
on
Lee
Street
in
the
1891
program
they
approved
in
1890
program
yeah.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
with
us
always
good
to
see.
So
next
we
have
the
matter
of
B.
The
discussion
of
the
huge
E
Street
escape
up
project
come.
Z
To
Mary
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
the
reason
I
brought
that
up
and
we
had
a
hearty
discussion
at
community
development
was
and
the
agreement
the
mitigation
agreement,
affordable,
housing
wasn't
allowed,
use,
streetscapes,
isn't
allowed
use,
I,
think
drainages.
We
did
a
manhole
prior
to
the
mayor,
technically
being
elected.
We
did
I
think
for
500,000
for
a
manhole
out
of
the
original.
We
have
three
million
dollars.
That
was
the
mitigation
to
spend
100
percent
of
the
dollars
remaining
dollars
on
Street
scapes,
which
is
not
a
crisis
in
this
city
and
I.
Don't
think
anybody
been
sit.
Z
Leadership
in
the
city
anyway
would
disagree
that
affordable
housing
is
a
crisis
in
the
city.
So
when
you
get
a
chance
to
get
an
opportunity
to
get
any
impeachable
dollars
for
portable
housing,
we
have
to
go
for
it.
It's
already
allowed
now.
I,
don't
know
if
the
Secretary
of
Transportation
is
familiar,
that
a
good
portion
of
the
street
escapes
on
hugie
Street
has
been
done
by
the
private
sector.
When
this
was
when
we
voted
on
this
in
2014.
Z
We
also
know
from
the
drainage
project
that's
going
to
be
on
King
and
huge
East
Street
from
K
Street,
headed
towards
the
cross
town,
if
you've
driving
from
Kings
I'm
sorry
from
Kings
feet
on
huger,
if
you're
headed
towards
marks
and
drives
as
you
get
to
it,
interstate
goes
over.
Our
engineering
departments
told
us.
Z
We
may
need
to
raise
that
Street
to
effectuate
the
drainage
solution
there,
which
means
the
sidewalk
is
gonna,
have
to
be
torn
up
the
existing
sidewalk
so
that
make
any
sense
to
pave
new
Street
scapes
there
before
we
do
the
drainage
between
King
on
huger,
to
where
the
interstate
goes
over.
Now
after
you
go
underneath
the
interstate
from
that
point,
all
the
way
to
meeting
Street
on
the
north
side
has
been
done.
It's
in
place
by
private
sector
on
the
right
side.
This
set
of
apartments
going
up
in
some
additional
new
development.
Z
They
will
take
care
of
that
portion.
So
then
you
cross
the
intersection
of
King
I'm.
Sorry
of
huger
and
meeting
the
north
east
corner
is
where
Eddie
buck
and
their
team
is
going
to
do
a
hotel
and
office
building
parking,
deck,
etc.
That
takes
in
a
solid
third
of
the
portion
from
meeting
to
marcin's
right,
so
two
thirds
at
least
of
that
project
either
we
can't
do
because
of
the
drainie
or
has
been
done
by
private
sick.
So
I
I
heard
you
mr.
Z
me
land
a
fortune
about
well
there's
some
streetscapes
that
hadn't
been
done
and
probably
won't
be
done.
We
can
do
that
part,
but
I'm,
a
firm
believer
that
has
the
Secretary
seen
the
portion
that's
been
done.
Have
we
done
pictures
of
DVDs
showing
her?
What
has
been
done
and
the
part
about
you
know?
It's
been
said
that
we
don't
want
to
upset
these
people
because
they
could
take
reprisals.
I
thought
about
that.
That
was
part
of
our
discussion.
I
thought
about
that
mr.
Z
Muir
mm-hmm,
and
if
we
accept
that
starting
with
me,
shame
on
me
and
I'll
tell
you
why
I
remember
some
years
ago
and
Hurricane
Floyd
was
coming.
The
lanes
were
not
reversed,
the
governor
was
replaced,
and
so
was
the
Secretary
of
Transportation,
and
you
know
what
now
we
reverse
them
in
advance.
So
to
speak.
It's
never
probably.
You
know
why.
Z
We
have
not
reached
out
to
our
delegation,
enemies,
streetscapes
and
invite
them
take
a
ride
up
and
down.
Huger
Street
see
what's
happened.
We
were
told
when
we
voted
on
this
steve
steve.
The
dog
came
to
that
same
microphone
and
I
asked
mr.
Muir.
At
that
time.
These
dollars
can
be
spent
on
the
floor
to
the
house.
Yes,
but
is
to
use
it
a
loser,
councilman
wearing.
If
we
don't
use
it,
they
subject
to
take
the
money
back.
That
was
in
2014.
Z
Z
So
the
tug-of-war
of
the
remaining
amount
being
spent
all
on
streetscapes
I,
think
Senator,
Proxmire
I
think
was
his
name
in
the
US
Senate.
He
used
to
give
up
this
thing
called
a
Golden
Fleece
award
and
it
used
to
recognize
wasteful
spending
on
behalf
of
the
federal
government
like
when
the
government
would
spend
$900
on
a
hammer.
This
comes
close
to
that
2.2
million
on
hugie
Street.
Z
That
already
has
sidewalks
by
the
way
there
already
sidewalks
registry.
So
nobody
has
to
walk
into
mud
like
they
have
to
do
them.
Sam
rittenberg
on
certain
parts
on
a
rainy
day
we
actually
literally
well
the
major
thought
we
have
cow
paths
down.
Senate
rittenberg
fighting
to
put
people
before
streetscapes
should
be
an
easy
task,
so
I
would
think
that
another
presentation
to
the
Secretary
of
Transportation.
Z
If
that
means
we
need
to
fan
out,
because
this
three-way
agreement
I'll
be
happy
to
get
in
contact
with
congressman
Clyburn
on
the
federal
side,
I'll
be
happy
to
reach
out
to
counter
to
the
senator
Scott
and
Senator
grim.
You
have
a
strong
relationship
with
Senator
Scott,
affordable
housing
needs
to
be
forefront
in
that
in
that
light.
So
and
if
they
took
reprisals
against
us,
why
would
we
be
quiet
about
that?
We
should
let
it
we,
the
largest
city
in
the
state
of
South
Carolina.
Z
We
should
let
every
city
note
that's
what
they're
doing
to
us.
Whatever
reprises
they
doing
that
to
us.
Charleston
County
is
a
Jonah
County.
We
send
more
money
to
Columbia
than
they
send
back.
When
we
sent
a
dollar
to
Columbia.
We
don't
get
a
dollar
back
so
to
sit
here
and
be
intimidated
by
potential
reprisals.
Shame
on
us
and
it's
a
shame
on
you
I,
said
shame
on
us,
because
our
people
deserve
better.
Z
Z
You
know
I,
don't
think
this
is
poking.
Anybody
in
the
eye
I
think
that
the
reality
of
what's
happening
on
huger
Street,
we're
told
to
decision
makers.
People
would
win.
So
that's
why
we're
not
going
to
get
any
more
mitigation
money
from
the
South
Col
apartment
of
transportations,
Federal,
Highway,
Transportation,
Authority
and
obviously
the
city
of
Charleston
on
that
Cooper
River
bridge
project?
This
is
it.
A
Yes,
horrible
housing
was
allowable
expense
in
the
original
mitigation
agreement,
but
in
fact
the
former
council
and
mayor
in
2014
agreed
in
a
three-party
agreement
that
they
would
spend
the
balance
of
the
funds
for
this
streetscape
improvement.
I
wasn't
here
then,
and
I
agreed
with
you
councilmember
Waring,
to
ask.
If
we
could,
you
know
make
that
change
up.
I
did
so
I
think
very
politely
and
very
very
effectively,
but
just
given
the
dynamics
of
everything
that's
going
on
and
maybe
the
hassle
of
getting
the
feds
to
approve
it
as
well.
A
A
A
Well,
the
county,
the
d-o-t
said:
hey,
wait
a
minute,
you
can't
you
an
allow
them
a
carry
fart
party
agreement,
and
so
thankfully
you
know
everybody
stood
firm
and
finally,
with
the
help
of
Governor
may
master,
we
got
the
SIP
board
to
come
back
around
and
in
agreements
back
on
on
track,
as
it
originally
was,
because
what
were
the
three
parties
that
want
to
change
it
and
in
a
way
this
is
a
pretty
similar
situation.
I
would
like
to
change
it.
You
would
like
to
change
it.
A
I
think
most
of
our
council
members
would
like
to
change
it.
We're
just
one
party
to
a
three
party
legal
agreement
that
we've
agreed
to
I'm,
not
a
lawyer,
but
I
think
it
would
take
concurrence
of
the
three
parties
to
mutually
agree
in
order
to
make
a
change.
That's
what
I
asked
for
I
was
not
successful.
A
I
would
like
to
also
just
point
out
that,
even
though
you
so
correct,
a
lot
of
development
has
occurred
on
PG
Street,
you
know,
and
those
property
owners
developers
will
do
their
little
sections
of
the
the
of
the
streetscape
you'll
have
a
significant
section,
that's
not
finished,
and
so
you'll
end
up
with.
You
know
not
a
pretty
smile
with
some
nice
teeth
and
some
that
aren't
so
nice
or
some
that
are
missing
so
I
and
streetscaping
is
not
a
inexpensive
matter.
A
It
it's
it's
expensive
and
in
addition,
we
we've
asked
the
drainage
improvements,
be
included
with
the
streetscape,
so
I'm
not
going
to
say
that
it's
it's
a
bad
deal.
You
know,
but
it's
different,
it's
different.
So
this
is
what
I
would
propose
to
you:
how
about
I
call
secretary
Hall
again
and
I,
invite
her
on
the
next
trip
to
Charleston
that
she
has
some
time
to
meet
with
you
and
me
on
here:
G,
Street
and
we'll
just
go
over
this
whole
matter,
one
time
with
her
and
see
if
we
can
get
a
different
result.
AI
Z
And
you
are
you,
the
delegation
piece
is
man
thing
with
Councilman
Louis's
idea
at
the
committee,
in
other
words,
the
state
infrastructure
bank,
Boyd
said
no
and
you're
right.
The
church
example
of
the
526,
the
pointed
people
said
no
in
majority
right,
but
one
until
the
government
got
involved
and
all
of
a
sudden
appointed
people
said.
Yes,
that's
right.
Okay
and
that's
the
process
that
I'm
asking
for
was
matter
of
fact:
I've
been
Creek
when
the
governor
was
in.
Z
If
we
took
him
down
huger
speech,
so
he
could
have
seen
it
for
himself
I'm
willing
to
do
that.
But
my
point
is
okay,
I
just
to
spend
2.2
or
2.3
million
dollars
that
potentially
could
go
or
a
healthy
portion
of
that
could
go
towards
a
portable
housing.
It's
worth
those
efforts
and
it's
worth
us
getting
involved
collectively.
If
that
helps
I,
think
I,
don't
think
it's
a
council
person
around
this
table.
It's
if
you're
not
willing
to
make
a
call
to
members
of
the
County
delegation,
senators,
representative,
etc.
So,
like
I.
A
A
As
senators
sin
has
helped
get
started,
one
of
those
matters
it
came
up
last
night,
I
mentioned
it
to
you
earlier
today,
of
of
improving
the
drainage
behind
Ashlee
Plaza
Mall
involves
tying
in
a
new
pipe
to
an
existing,
the
OT
drainage
feature
so
and
and
time
after
time
and
I
know
they
say
no
sometimes
to
us
on
a
crosswalk
or
some
some
curb
cut
or
something
like
that.
But
there
are
so
many
levels
that
we
need
and
want
their
cooperation
and
good
faith
and
I.
A
Just
and
I
know
you
want
to
be
respectful
to
them
as
well,
but
I'm
sensitive
about
that,
and
you
know
we.
We
have
two
of
the
three
parties
together,
you
know
I've,
you
know
I
see
bringing
in
a
heavy
ant
hammer,
but
sometimes,
if
it's,
if
we're
one
of
three,
it's
I
I
just
want
to
be
respectful
of
them.
You
hear
me
councilmember,
burger.
AG
Yeah
mister
Maric
just
to
sort
of
piggyback
on
councilman
Waring's
effort
here,
if
you
go
back
to
the
bonding
issue
that
we
were
just
discussing
earlier
and
and
look
at
some
of
the
recommendations
from
our
Housing
and
Community
Development
Division.
If
you
can
leverage
two
million
dollars
into
72
units,
that's
a
blessing,
so
two
million
can
go
a
long
way.
I
mean
given
the
track
record
of
our
directive,
Housing
and
Community
Development,
and
how
she's
been
able
to
leverage
how
limited
dollars
into
hundreds
of
units
I.
Just
think
that
this
is
also
a
good
opportunity.
A
Y
So,
mr.
mayor,
if
the
this
mitigation
money
was
allocated
to
us
and
we
spent
all
the
money
we
could-
and
they
came
out
that
we
had
two
million
dollars
left
over
under
the
maybe
I'm,
looking
at
all
legal
apartment
with
other
our
obligations
under
that,
if
we
don't
spend
that
money,
we
had
to
return
it
back
to
the
state
as
it
stands
right
now.
That's.
Y
AI
Y
The
question
is
which
kids
off,
thereby,
if,
if
we
we've
maxed
out
the
money
that
we
needed
to
do
for
the
mitigation
project,
we
have
surplus
money
would
what's
was
there
skin
in
the
game
at
this
point
did
not
losing
that
money?
We've
completed
the
project.
We've
done
anything
we
were
supposed
to
do
in
the
mitigation.
We
got
leftover
money
whatever
that
leftover
money
is
what's.
A
Got
a
lot
of
time
invested
in
it
already
and
we
get
the
money
get
the
money,
I'm
gonna,
let
s
see,
do
t
speak
for
themselves.
I
shared
with
you
a
letter
I
got
they
sent
me.
You
know
where
they.
They
basically
said
it's
mandatory,
that
we
proceed
with
what
we
had
agreed
upon
before.
Maybe
it's
not
mandatory,
maybe
we
will
risk
losing
the
money.
I
don't
know
if
y'all
are
willing
to
take
that
risk.
A
Y
They're
sort
of
more
curious
as
to
their
position
on
this
and
I
mean
we
got
a
memorandum
of
understanding.
We
got
a
contract,
we're
bound
by
that
I
understand
that
completely
and
I'm
not
trying
to
rock
the
boat
with
them,
I'm
just
more
interested
as
it's
passed
through
money,
it's
available
for
a
particular
purpose
and
they're.
The
reason
I
think
about
it.
A
Housing,
but
so
was
doing
streetscape
in
the
area,
and
you
know
in
the
meantime,
respectfully
counsel
has
we're
trying
on
in
any
way
we
can
to
dedicate
resources
to
affordable
housing.
We
we've
dedicated
some
land
sales.
We
have
some
future
land
sales.
We
now
have
a
fee
in
lieu.
That's
generated
some
millions
of
dollars
already
we
we've
dedicated,
even
though
they're
small,
the
fees
from
from
short-term
rental
registrations,
affordable
housing.
We
I
think
this
year,
in
addition
to
the
twenty
million
dollar
bond.
A
We've
we've
accumulated
something
like
six
million
dollars
of
funding
for
affordable
housing,
so
I
I
do
have
to
just
reasonably
say
if,
if,
if
the
d-o-t
and
the
Federal
Highway
Administration
don't
want
to
change
years,
you
know
and
fixing
the
rest
of
the
huger
Street
and
addressing
some
drainage
issues
there.
It
isn't
a
bad
thing
to
do.
I
mean
you
might
on
your
list
of
priorities,
prefer
spending
that
money
somewhere
else,
but
a
former
council
agreed
to
it.
A
I
just
questioned
how
much,
how
much
effort
and
and
skin
you
want
to
put
in
this
game
because
we're
working
to
get
other
funding
sources
for
affordable
housing.
We're
doing
that
every
day
and
so
I
just
being
respectful
of
d-o-t
and
making
progress
and
making
something
happen
and
getting
on
with
life
I,
don't
think
it's
a
terrible
thing
and
all
to
proceed
with
the
project
myself.
Y
AD
Gonna
suggest,
first
of
all,
the
highway
department
deals
with
highways
and
the
affordable
housing
piece
is
something
that
they
just
they
feel
like.
That's
a
bait-and-switch,
maybe
so
we're
talking
about
two
million
dollars
here.
That's
in
the
scheme
of
things,
particularly
the
highway.
It's
not
a
big
part
of
money,
but
it
seems
to
me
like
and
and
I
rode
the
huger
Street
with
councilmember
wearing
and
I
mean
down
towards
Morrison
Drive.
AD
We
got
plenty
of
affordable
housing
projects
that
we
can
work
on
in
the
next
year
or
so,
but
there
will
be
one
of
those
projects
that
comes
along
that
we
can
maybe
use
some
of
this
money
for
some
kind
of
a
highway
or
something
the
deals
he's
interested
in
and
takes
the
money
that
we
may
have.
Otherwise,
it's
going
to
put
there
and
put
it
in
affordable
housing
or
call
some
developer
to
you
know
to
create
more
units
or
something
like
that.
I
think
we
we're
kind
of
all
talking
the
same
thing
here.
AD
AD
Me
that's
just
the
way
they
look
at
stuff
and
they're.
Just
saying
you
know
yeah,
unless
you
could
convince
them
that
that's
affordable
housing
would
really
be
good
in
that
area.
I
think
you
kind
of
beat
your
head
against
the
wall
with
some
of
those
folks,
but
for
two
million
dollars:
I'm,
not
sure
that
I
want
to
upset
526
or
upset
some
of
these
other
things,
because
I
don't
want
to
go
to
war
with
the
Christie
hall
and
the
highway
to
I
want
to
keep
them
there,
but
I
think
we
can
make
this
same
work.
Z
You
know
what
why
did
they
put
it
in
writing
that
housing
could
be
part
of
the
solution?
Okay,
it
was
to
mitigate
people
that
was
being
displaced.
Okay,
we've
got
to
what
could
be
permanent,
affordable
housing.
That's
in
the
footprint
that
whole
second
person
I
understand.
That's
in
the
footprint
of
the
area
that
was
to
be
mitigated.
We've
got
the
property
from
the
bridge
site,
fossil
beef
and
we've
got
the
180
homeless,
shelter
trying
to
do
70
or
72
units
so
and
I
understand.
Council
was
very
able
and
telling
us
about
the
agreement
in
2014.
AD
Z
AD
J
A
Well,
we
had
a
motion
that
was
part
of
the
committee
report
to
go
back
to
the
council
through
to
add
for
this
change
of
use.
I've
basically
agreed
with
councilmember
wearing
to
contact
secretary
Hall
again
and
arrange
a
meeting
and
is
discussion
about
it.
So
if
that's
acceptable,
the
council
will
move
forward
with
that
all
right.
A
A
Z
A
Z
Z
Y
Z
Okay,
update
from
the
floodplain
manager
on
free
boarding,
which
I
believe
will
come
later
on
today,
I'm
gonna
go
to
remain
and
come
back
to
you.
If
you
don't
mind
the
update
on
the
storm
water
draining
divisions,
we
had
a
lot
of
discussions
on
that
and
the
committee
actually
took
a
vote
to
seek
comment
from
the
developers
console,
entertainment.
You
know
I
and
I
didn't
make
that
clarification
at
the
meeting
yesterday,
the
developers
Council
in
stage
with
real-estate
people's
actually
staged
with
engineering
development
firms.
You
know,
maybe
they
need
to
change
their
name.
Z
AE
AE
AE
Would
just
like
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
work
in
it's,
essentially
it's
being
deferred
to
go
to
the
engineering
members
of
the
developer
committee
and
I?
Think
they're,
adding
on
I
just
saw
a
couple
emails
just
evening
that
they're
adding
on
other
professionals
that
have
anything
to
do
with
stormwater
management
programs
in
their
relationship
with
the
chamber.
AE
So,
while
we're
waiting
for
that
to
happen
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
document
that
they
are
considering
are
the
one
that
we
should
all
be
keeping
in
front
of
us
as
an
interim
set
of
design.
Standards
for
stormwater
management
programs
is
that
is
the
document
that
came
to
us
separately
on
Friday
evening.
Come
mr.
Cooke,
and
so
that's
the
official
final
revised
set
of
standards
that
were
initially
transferred
from
the
church.
AE
AE
That's
that's
now
the
one
that
we're
all
going
to
be
looking
at
that
was
sent
to
us
on
February
8th
and
then
there
is
a
new
item
that
is
determined
you
know
with
by
the
people
that
are
contributing
to
the
ordinance
as
of
tonight.
Item
number
six
and
that
I
know
was
actually
revised
twice
inserted
once
and
then
revised.
So
the
document
that
you
should
be
looking
at
shows
item
number
six
with
the
line
out
of
the
original
item
that
was
substituted
for
six
and
now
in
underlined
both
base
type.
AE
AE
H
AD
B
AE
Z
Z
Z
Z
A
We're
gonna
send
this
for
some
review
by
the
developers
Council.
Now
we
have,
as
you
mentioned,
a
task
force.
That's
reviewing
the
the
permanent
if
you
will,
rather
than
interim
design
standards.
It
includes,
in
addition
to
engineering
firms,
some
citizens
as
the
large
and
some
other
community
groups
that
have
an
interest
in
this
topic
of
flooding
and
all
like
that
and
I
know.
When
it
comes
back,
it
will
be
a
public
process.
AB
Just
wanted
to
add
it
that
Mister
Holton
specifically
said
that
all
of
these
things
would
be
brought
up
with
the
new
with
the
manual
committee
for
the
new
stormwater
manual.
So
you
know
some
of
these
things
may
be
dismissed
before
before
the
it
comes
to
us
and
then
I
believe.
He
also
said
that
that
that
would
come
before
the
Public
Works
Committee
as
well.
Right
then
they
say
that
before
it
came
to
council,
the
stormwater
manual
updates
its
gonna
come
too
I.
AD
That's
what
we
were
doing
was
to
was
to
put
the
committee
back
that
well,
some
of
us
were
out
in
the
streets
and
well.
This
is
better
than
a
more
torment.
All
this
kind
of
stuff
I
don't
want
people
thinking
that
we're
doing
something
that
we're
not
doing,
and
that's
where
this
is
that's
why
it's
so
confusing!
We
got
stuff
coming
from
every
direction,
so
I
think
tonight.
I'm
gonna
vote
against
all
of
this,
and
hopefully
that
we
can
bring
it
back
in
some
kind
of
orderly
process
and
and
and
put
something
in
place.
Z
D
A
AE
A
AE
AD
AD
H
A
A
A
B
A
God
in
the
report
ways
it
means
a
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
bills
for
third
reading.
It
was
wanted
to
deferred.
We
have
five
bills
up
for
second
reading,
we're
going
to
take
all
one
through
five
together
any
discussion
on
any
of
those
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
odds.
Have
it
now
for
third
reading
and
ratification,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
you
pose
the
eyes
habit.
A
Yes,
ma'am
we
did,
and
then
we
just
have
the
one
bill
up.
Folks
is
the
last
item
on
our
agenda:
we're
making
progress.
We
have
one
one
item
up
for
first
reading,
the
regarding
increasing
the
freeboard
requirement
from
one
foot
to
two
feet:
effective
this
coming
August
1st
2019.
Mr.
Joker,
would
you
like
to
make
a
presentation
or
do
we
have
a
motion
to
to
accept?
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
I
think
we
had.
We
did
have
a
long
discussion
about
this
and
a
very
fine
presentation
by
mr.
A
AN
AN
So
I
guess
we
can.
We
can
consider
this.
Perhaps
the
first
proposed
implementation
of
an
initiative
from
the
newly
adopted
update
to
the
sea
level
rise
strategy,
and
so
that
this
has
been
several
months
in
the
works
with
meetings
with
staff
preservation
groups
went
to
Planning
Commission
in
December
the
storm
wash
standards
task
force,
which
was
really
recently
mentioned
last
month,
very
quickly,
free
board.
It's
just
a
measurement
in
feet
above
the
base
flood
elevation
that
a
community
implements
as
a
higher
standard
of
safety
for
new
development.
AN
The
base
flood
elevation
is
established
by
FEMA
on
the
flood
insurance
rate
maps.
So
we
are
currently
at
a
one-foot
free
board.
We
are
proposing
to
move
to
a
two
foot
free
board.
You
will
hear
me
refer
to
DfE
that
stands
for
design
flood
elevation.
That
simply
means
the
combination
of
the
base.
Flood
elevation
is
shown
on
the
flood
insurance
rate
map,
with
the
added
measurement
of
free
board
that
we
looked
at
a
few
similar
cities
on
the
Atlantic
coast
that
also
had
significant
historic
districts
to
see
what
they've
been
doing
st.
Augustine.
AN
It
currently
has
a
1
foot
free
board.
Annapolis
has
a
2
foot
free
board
and
Norfolk
Virginia
has
a
3
foot
three
free
board
currently
on
the
books,
really
the
only
issue
that
those
cities
have
run
into
you
in
terms
of
the
implementation
of
an
increased
free
board
has
been
in
Annapolis,
where
they
still
measure
their
height
limits
in
feet,
as
opposed
to
in
stories
in
their
historic
district.
So
they
are
currently
experiencing
a
crunch
of
a
a
top
limit
that
is
not
moving
and
a
bottom
requirement
that
is
moving
in
our
historic
district.
AN
We
recently
moved
to
measuring
our
height
limits
in
stories
off
of
the
outside
of
the
historic
district.
We
currently
have
a
zoning
ordinance
exception
on
the
books
that
allows
for
the
difference
between
the
base,
flood
elevation
and
the
the
existing
grade
of
a
property
to
be
added
on
to
the
top
of
the
height
limit
that
is
measured
in
feet.
So
we
should
not
run
into
that
same
problem
that
Annapolis
did
briefly.
The
major
benefits
of
a
free
board
requirement
is
simply
reducing
damages
to
properties.
AN
Reducing
the
number
of
flood
insurance
claims
that
get
made
to
the
NFIP,
as
well
as
the
reduced
costs
to
the
community.
We
spend
a
lot
of
money.
The
state
spends
a
lot
of
money
on
mitigation
from
from
from
flooding
events,
as
well
as
consistency
with
neighbors.
We
are
currently
in
the
minority
at
the
city
in
terms
of
our
free
board
requirement.
Most
of
the
jurisdictions
surrounding
us
in
in
the
Tri
County
area
are
already
at
two
feet,
so
moving
to
two
feet
would
bring
us
into
consistency
with
neighboring
jurisdictions
and
their
requirements.
AN
This
also
adds
a
lot
of
points
actually
gets
as
more
than
a
quarter
of
our
way
to
the
next
classification
in
the
community
rating
system,
which
is
this
the
incentive
program
under
the
National
Flood
Insurance
Program,
that
that
allows
communities
to
get
credit
for
higher
regulatory
standards
than
what
the
NFIP
currently
requires.
We
are
sitting
currently
at
a
classification
of
six,
which
means
a
20%
flood
insurance
premium
reduction
for
our
citizens
with
NFIP
insurance
policies.
AN
We
are
aiming
to
achieve
a
classification
of
five
when
we
have
our
visit
later
this
year,
that
classification
of
five
will
bump
us
up
to
a
twenty
five
percent
premium
reduction
for
our
citizens
with
NFIP
policies.
So
the
more
points
that
we
can
get
the
lower
our
class,
the
more
the
reduction
in
the
premiums
and,
as
you
saw
this,
this
one
move
gets
us
125
points
towards
that
goal.
AN
So
this
is
a
big
step
in
achieving
that
in
terms
of
how
much
of
our
city
is
in
the
special
flood
hazard
area,
over
half
over
over
half
of
the
acreage
over
half
of
the
parcels
in
the
city
are
currently
in
the
S
FHA.
So
now,
I'll
quickly
draw
your
attention
to
the
large
packets
in
front
of
you
that
show
some
information
about
the
special
flood
hazard
areas
in
our
city.
AN
The
the
package
of
Berkeley
County
has
the
now
currently
effective
flood
insurance
rate
map
panels
for
the
areas
of
Berkeley
County
that
are
in
the
Steve
Charleston
for
Charleston
County,
rather
than
printing
off
all
50
flood
insurance
rate
map
panels.
In
duplicate
for
each
of
you,
I
instead
did
a
broader
look
at
the
different
areas
of
the
city
that
you
can
compare
between
the
currently
effective
flood
insurance
rate
map.
AN
That
is
currently
the
the
regulatory
standard
versus
the
proposed
preliminary
flood
insurance
rate
map
that
we
are
waiting
to
hear
from
FEMA
when
the
next
steps
in
that
effectiveness
timeline
will
progress.
We
are
hoping
that
the
preliminary
map
will
become
effective
later
this
year,
but
if
you
kind
of
hold
hold
the
to
the
two
packets
side-by-side
for
Charleston
County,
what
you're
looking
at
there
in
the
dark
blue?
That
is,
the
s
FHA,
that
is
the
special
flood
hazard
area,
those
are
our
V
zone
x'
and
our
a
zone
x'.
AN
So
anything,
that's
not
that
dark,
blue
color
is
outside
of
the
special
flood
hazard
area.
The
freeboard
requirement
does
not
apply
to
those
properties.
Freeball
requirement
applies
to
only
the
properties
that
are
in
the
dark
blue
area
on
the
Fulton
County
Maps
and
applies
only
to
the
areas
on
the
Berkeley
County
Maps
that
are
shaded
in
the
dark
grey.
That's
the
special
flood
hazard
area
on
the
Berkeley
County
Maps.
AN
So
that's
it's
a
lot
of
information
happy
to
come
back
to
that
at
the
end,
but
but
one
important
thing
to
note
in
in
comparing
it
for
Charleston
County.
The
currently
effective
firm,
as
opposed
to
the
preliminary
firm,
is
that
there
are
some
significant
portions
of
the
city
that
are
proposed
to
be
removed
from
the
special
flood
hazard
area
and
so
those
areas
that
are
currently
subject
to
s
FHA
regulatory
requirements
like
the
one
for
free
board.
AN
If
they
are
removed
from
the
s
FHA
on
the
new
map,
they
are
no
longer
subject
to
the
free
board
requirement.
Very
briefly,
we
enacted
our
one
foot
free
board
on
January
1st
2015
since
that
date.
This
is
a
breakdown
of
the
number
of
permits
that
have
been
issued
in
the
city
of
Charleston
that
would
have
to
comply
with
that
free
board
requirement.
You
see
the
top
line
there
is
the
total
permits
have
been
issued.
The
city
number
of
permits
below
that
that
have
been
issued
in
the
special
flood
hazard
area.
AN
Those
are
the
permits
that
would
have
to
comply
with
that
one
for
free
Ward
requirement.
Then
the
bottom
line
is
the
the
percentage
of
building
permits
that
have
been
issued
in
the
in
the
S
FHA
out
of
the
total
city
permits
issued.
The
important
number
is
actually
right
at
the
bottom.
That
is
roughly
5%
of
all
the
structures
that
now
exist
in
the
city
of
Charleston
have
been
built
to
you,
the
one
for
free
board
requirement.
That
is
a
number
that
we
want
to
see
go
up.
AN
This
is
a
look
at
the
number
of
flood
losses
in
the
city
of
Charleston.
We
we
account
for
6600
flood
insurance
claims
under
the
National
Flood
Insurance
Program,
and
that
that
that
is
a
eighteen
point.
Seven
percent
of
all
properties
that
sit
in
our
special
flood
hazard
area
have
made
at
least
one
flood
insurance
claim,
since
1978
was
1978
1978
since,
since
the
NFIP
went
into
effect
in
Charleston.
AN
AC
AN
So
back
back
to
this
slide,
the
the
most
important
number
on
this
slide
is
also
at
the
bottom.
The
city
of
Charleston
makes
up
roughly
2/3
of
all
of
the
NFIP
claims
made
in
the
state
of
South
Carolina.
So,
just
as
just
as
we
want
that
5%
number
of
properties
that
have
been
built
to
freeboard
requirements
to
go
up
that
two-thirds
number
we
want
to
go
down.
We
we
want
to
make
up
less
of
a
percentage
of
the
state
making
flood
insurance
claims.
So
a
quick
look
at
construction
costs.
AN
The
the
Association
of
State
floodplain
managers
did
a
very
comprehensive
national
study
in
2017
to
look
at
what
an
additional
foot
of
construction
means
for
construction
costs,
and
you
can
see
in
the
tables
this
also
if
I
know.
This
is
not
easy
to
read,
but
you
do
on
your
desks.
You
have
a
printout
of
this
this
PowerPoint,
so
it
might
be
easier
for
you
to
look
at
in
that
way.
AN
Sorry
this
here,
but
you
can
see
on
the
left-hand
side,
depending
on
the
type
of
foundation
that
is
used,
the
there
there
are
different
costs
associated
with
building
up
an
additional
foot,
those
range
from
890
to
4470
the
the
middle
table.
There
shows
approximately
what
the
reduction
in
your
flood
insurance
premium
looks
like
as
a
result
of
each
additional
foot
of
free
board.
You
can
see.
Obviously
it
goes
down
people
people
pay
less
in
insurance
when
they
are
elevated
higher.
AN
The
third
table
on
the
right
is
kind
of
a
breakdown
of
how
those
insurance
premium
savings
over
time
offset
the
the
initial
cost
of
an
additional
foot
of
elevation.
You
can
see
that
it
would
depend
on
on
that.
The
method
used
to
achieve
that
that
free
board
requirement,
but
in
in
a
matter
of
just
several
years,
usually
that
initial
cost
is
offset
by
insurance
premiums.
AN
AN
AC
I
think
it's
interesting
to
point
out.
The
most
expensive
way
to
do,
it
is
to
guess,
is
to
do
fill
and
we're
gonna.
Allow
fill
to
reach
the
new
freeboard
requirement
if
we
go
to
two
feet
so
essentially,
you
can
come
in
and
just
bring
a
bunch
of
non-native
fill,
raise
an
entire
development
up
two
feet
and
meet
the
freeboard
requirement
and
then
flood
out
your
neighbors
dad
do
that
that.
AN
A
AC
AN
So
there
may
there
there
will
likely
be
a
period
of
time
between
the
effectiveness
of
a
freeboard
requirement
and
the
effectiveness
of
the
new
manual.
But
regardless
of
updates
that
are
going
to
be
made
to
the
manual,
the
existing
manual
remains
in
effect
until
that
update
occurs.
And
so,
while
Phil
is
an
option
to
meet
the
freeboard
requirement,
it
is
not
the
only
option
and
and
if,
if
it
is
not
feasible
to
or
possible
to
meet
the
stormwater
requirements
by
using
Phil,
the
developer
will
have
to
use
another
method
to
achieve
the
freeboard
and.
AC
E
Z
AN
So
the
use
of
fill
is
going
to
be
regulated
by
the
stormwater
manual,
not
not
by
the
floodplain
management
regulations,
so
so
well,
not
by
the
flood
hazard
prevention,
section
of
the
ordinance
as
much
as
the
stormwater
manual.
So
so
the
implementation
of
an
increased
freeboard
is
is
not
going
to
you
in
any
way
amend
the
current
requirements
or
the
future
requirements
for
the
use
of
fill
the
users.
Y
Y
AN
Y
AC
E
AN
So
so
each
each
individual
project
must
be
looked
at
individually,
based
on
the
current
elevation.
The
required
elevation
in
in
the
example
of
89
Broad
Street,
the
the
variance
process
for
historic
structure,
certainly
kicks
in
I,
don't
believe
this
city
has
has
ever
denied
a
variance
request
to
not
elevate
a
structure
that
has
deemed
historic
if
they,
if
they
request
that
variance
and
that
that
is
a
variance
that
is
very
thoughtfully,
considered.
AB
AN
That
I'm,
aware
of
the
the
variance
procedure
to
be
exempt
from
the
elevation
requirements,
does
require
the
demonstration
of
a
hardship.
So
the
the
variance
process
is
one
that
is
open
to
any
citizen,
any
property.
They
may
submit
their
case
for
a
hardship
and
that
that
case
will
certainly
be
considered.
AD
E
AD
To
you,
your
coordinate,
so
it's
not
just
flooding,
they
caused
it
and
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
as
I
know.
You
and
I
talked
last
night
about
the
flood
plain
they're
they're
boring
that
standard.
But
it's
not
a
not
an
exact
correlation
here
between
all
this
but
they're.
Not
how
does
that
work,
they're,
not
making
less
blood
plane
area
but
they're,
lowering
their
standards
or
their
baseline.
AD
AN
AN
This
is
this
is
the
result
of
a
greater
amount
of
research
done
by
FEMA.
Unfortunately,
the
the
new
firms
were
moat.
The
data
collection
for
those
maps
was
done
before
the
last
several
years
of
major
events
for
us,
and
so
they
they
they
are
using
more
accurate
historical
data,
but
the
the
general
trend
of
the
maps
is
yes
that
that
it,
it
appears
as
though
flood
risks
are
being
reduced.
That
is
not
something
that
we
want
to.
AD
E
AD
AE
Thank
You
councilmember
moody
I
appreciate
the
discussion
on
that
particular
point,
because
I
know
that
the
Public
Works
Committee
members
talked
about
it
also
extensively
last
night
and
I'm
no
expert
on
the
property
and
casualty
insurance.
That
was
one
of
my
responsibilities
and
the
jobs
that
I
had,
especially
with
the
National
Trust
for
Historic
Preservation,
where
we
had
to
trust
me.
It's
not
risk
all
the
time
and
basically
in
today's
insurance
industry,
regardless
of
what
we
would
do
about
elevation
and
pre-boarding.
AE
If
an
insurance,
if
the
insurer
is,
is
evaluating
you
returning
your
property
after
a
disaster
to
a
status
that
they
want
to
continue
to
ensure
they
are
going
to
make
sure
that
it's
gonna
be
elevated.
So
the
homeowner
is
not
going
to
have
a
choice
to
say:
I'm
I
would,
rather,
you
know,
go
through
another
ten
years
of
being
at
risk
at
a
lower
elevation
that
insurance
company
is
gonna,
say
no
you're
gonna
you're
gonna
raise
it
to
the
extent
that
you
need
to
or
you're
not
going
to
get
insurance.
AE
My
husband
and
I
just
bought
a
vacant
lot
45
years
ago
and
built
a
raised
house.
We're
literally
15
feet
of
the
high
tide
at
our
base
elevation
and
were
12
steps
above
that
you
know
the
ground
and
we
had
to
get
flood
insurance,
because
our
homeowners
insurance
would
not
cover
us
if
we
didn't
also
have
flood
insurance.
So
that's
how
you
know
jealous
the
insurance
industry
is
of
their
insurability
of
the
properties
that
they're
covering
so
I.
AE
Do
think
that
we
should
be
caring
about
what's
going
to
happen
to
constituents
in
a
worst-case
disaster,
but
just
keeping
our
free
boarding
at
a
lower
rate
is
not
going
to
protect
them
any
more
than
raising
that
raising.
That
will
help
them
go
through
a
flood
in
a
better
condition
and
we're
all
going
to
be
at
risk
if
we
have
to
replace
properties
after
a
major
disaster.
AC
Thank
you
mr.
mayor
I,
don't
mr.
Lindsey
I
might
to
get
him
to
weigh
in
just
real
quickly
if
he
needs
to
so
a
couple
things
I
mean
I
want
to
keep
this
moving
forward.
This
is
going
to
take
three
readings
right.
Yes,
we
can't
do
it
on
first
rate.
Yes,
so
one
of
the
things
that
these
maps
don't
show-
and
you
and
I
talked
a
little
bit
Stephen
before
council.
It's
harder
to
see
is
what
the
current
base
flood
elevation
is
for
any
particular
part
of
the
city.
AC
So
the
maps
that
we're
seeing
here
just
shows
you
the
special
hazard
flood
zones.
It
doesn't
show
you
the
base
flood
elevations.
My
understanding
is,
and
I'll
just
use
the
peninsula
example,
because
that's
what
I
represent
where
I
live,
but
it's
all
based
on
navd
88,
which
is
a
line
and
space
mean
sea
level
and
if
the
base
flood
elevation,
for
instance,
is
plus
7,
which
it
might
be
in
some
areas.
There's
plenty
houses
in
this
area.
AC
You
may
be
elevating
old
historic
houses,
6
7,
8
9
10
feet,
and
let
me
just
get
to
my
point:
there's
two
things:
it's
a
consideration
here:
one
is
houses,
homes,
buildings
that
are
hit
by
natural
or
unnatural
disaster,
but
there
are
also
a
number
of
properties
all
over
the
city,
but
in
particular
on
the
Mincy
that
are
not
at
50%
or
better
condition
that
are
going
to
be
rehabbed
sometime
in
the
next
5
10
15
any
years,
there's
also
an
entire
portion
of
the
peninsula.
That
currently
is
undeveloped.
AC
That
is
going
to
get
developed
one
of
these
days.
That's
the
port's,
Authority
property.
So
there's
a
lot
of
considerations.
I
mean
I,
think
for
the
historic
district.
We
really
have
to
think
about
what
it
means
in
actual
height
elevation
and
how
our
planning
department
and
our
preservation
side
of
things
is
going
to
feel
about
raising
some
houses,
for
instance
on
ug,
Street
or
Congress
Street,
or
where
there
are
houses
that
are
I'm
trying
to
think
I.
AC
AL
In
that
area,
so
you
know
with
that
caveat,
but
my
staff
did
look
at
this
issue
extensively,
specifically
on
the
different
free
would
matter,
and
my
understanding
is
that
historic,
Charles
Town
Charleston
is
more
or
less
unaffected
by
those
due
to
the
historic
exemptions
that
exist
for
historic
buildings.
So
we
don't
believe
that
this
for
free
board
is
something
that
it's
is
it
a
major
major
issue
because
historic
properties
are
exempted.
AL
However,
owners
of
historic
properties
are
gonna,
want
to
get
their
buildings
up
and
out
of
harm's
way
anyway,
and
that's
why
the
VAR
s
looked
at
this
matter.
We're
coming
forward
with
our
guidelines
to
help
people
do
just
exactly
that,
but
the
freeboard
change
doesn't
really
affect
historic,
downtown
and
my
staffs
look
at
the
issue.
Fair.
AC
Enough
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
semantically
talking
the
same
thing:
it's
not
exempted,
there's
not
an
exemption.
You
have
to
actually
seek
a
variance,
which
is
two
very
separate
things
right.
Okay,
then,
you
could
be
I,
don't
think.
That's
really
gonna
happen,
but
I
mean
you
know
with
Horton
store
preservation.
If
someone
realizes
wait,
my
base
flood
elevation
is
way
down
here
and
now.
I
gotta
go
it's
not
just
plus
two
feet:
it's
plus
seven,
eight
or
nine
feet.
AC
I
promise
you
the
longest
ba
are
meetings,
you'll
ever
sit
through
and
your
life
will
be
at
those
because
people
are
gonna
come
out
of
the
woodwork
to
oppose
it
now.
Secondly,
and
I'm
willing
to
give
this
first
reading,
but
I
want
to
see
how
this
integrates
fill
it
fill
soil
to
meet
these
requirements.
It's
crazy
I
mean
it's
all
the
things
we've
been
talking
about,
we're
gonna
be
spending
talking
about
going
up
in
the
future.
AC
That's
a
real
problem
for
me
and
you
know
I
know
we
want
to
save
money,
but
we
got
to
think
about
the
long
term.
Mary
take
the
long
view
of
things
if
we're
gonna
go
start
filling
whole
areas
of
the
city
with
infill
dirt
to
meet
base
flood
elevations
and
freeboard
elevations
I.
Just
think
we
really
need
to
think
about
that
going
forward.
I
really
do
so
I'm
willing
to
give
it
first
reading,
but
we
got
to
bring
this
I
want
to
see.
AN
Than
two
cents
worth
late
at
night,
I'll
just
very
quickly,
interject
I
purposely
did
not
print
off
what
you
have
in
your
packets
for
Berkeley
County
I
could
have
printed
that
for
Charleston
County,
but
between
the
current
and
preliminary
maps
you
would
have
had
about
a
ream
of
paper
each
on
your
desks
so
I'm
more
than
happy
to
to
send
that
to
you
and
provide
that
information
to
you
to
get
an
idea
of
what
the
base
law
elevations
are
in
your
respective
areas.
Happy
to
do
that.
I
just
didn't
want
to
waste
that
much
paper.
AN
AC
AN
Which
one
chart
the
Charleston,
the
the
colorful
ones,
are
ones
that
our
really
awesome,
GIS
folks
produced
for
me,
so
I
can
send
those
to
you
personally.
The
I
can
send
any
of
it
to
you
personally
that
the
official
Berkeley
County
ones
that
you
see
there.
Those
are
also
officially
available
on
the
FEMA
website
as
well.
But
I
can
send
you
anything.
You
want
I.
B
B
B
What
Stan
Susan,
because
and
one
if
you
keep
raising
the
streets
up,
you
got
to
break
the
rest
of
it
up
not
to
meet
the
freeboard
under
that
definition,
but
you're
worrying
about
flooding
so
where's
that
water
from
the
additional
height
of
the
feet
of
the
street
and
the
piping
going
I
mean
okay,
you
up
here
you
creating
the
hole,
then
we're
going
up
and
say:
okay,
you
got
to
be
another
foot
over
here
and
that's
I.
Think
I
mentioned
that
about
a
month
or
so
ago.
In
the
first
meeting
now
that's
two
different
animals.
B
That's
an
engineering
decision,
basically
to
put
that
in
their
ordinance.
But
now,
if
you're
going
to
create
bloody,
why
would
you
build
basically
a
mini
dike,
sit,
comfy
and,
and
then
does
this
right
now
most
of
the
most
of
the
subdivisions
are
working
as
planned:
okay,
the
straight
floods
it
tapers
up,
but
it
doesn't
go
into
property
at
the
eleventh
or
twelfth
of
which
were
rats
wherever
you
were
built
us
and
now
we're
gonna
take
it
to
13.
B
You
know
the
the
city
would
have
never
been
built
after
the
great
rebuilt
to
what
we
have
now
after
that
earthquake.
We
had
a
few
years
ago,
like
hundreds
20
years
ago,
under
under
this
standard.
That's
the
first
thought.
Second
thought
is
in
following
kind
of
mister
seeking
stop
process
here,
hard
to
do
whichever
one
trying
to
at
least
okay,
but
that's
it's
kind
of
late.
B
C
B
AN
We
well
so
the
Berkeley
County
map
became
effective
late
last
year,
the
Charleston
County
map.
We
are
waiting
to
hear
from
FEMA
to
get
the
final
version
of
that
map.
Once
we
get
the
final
version
of
the
Charleston
County
map
from
FEMA,
we
will
bring
it
to
Council
for
local
adoption,
so
we
are
hoping
that
that
happens
this
year,
but
we
think
it'll
be
this
year
as.
AC
AN
Thats,
you
know,
that's,
that's
not
that's
not
the
message
that
we
want
to
to
put
out
to
our
residents
now
I,
you
know,
I
do
want
to
make
the
important
distinction
that
those
maps
do
not
definitively
demonstrate
flood
risk.
Those
those
maps
are
used
by
the
insurance
industry
to
to
provide
insurance
policies
so,
but
but
yes,
there
are
areas
that
are
being
removed
from
the
S
FHA
areas
where
base
flood
elevation
is
going
down.
Z
Thank
You
mr.
myth,
when
it
comes
a
new
construction,
I
think
this
is
a
no-brainer.
We
have
focusing
so
much
on
flood
insurance
until
we
don't
have
any
information.
That's
why
this
committee
public
works
in
comfort
with
a
recommendation
to
the
council.
We
are
not
focusing
on
property
and
casualty.
Virtually
every
house,
that's
in
a
low
to
moderate
area
and
actually
beyond
a
little
monetary.
Every
house
that
does
not
have
replacement
coverage
will
be
underinsured
with
this.
Z
So
if
you
got
a
a
house
that
have
a
stated
amount
on
it,
in
other
words,
two
hundred
thousand
dollars-
and
you
have
a
hundred
thousand
one
dollar
worth
of
damage-
you've
got
to
come
up
to
now,
FEMA
plus
two
and
you're.
Not
gonna.
Have
enough
money
on
your
policy.
Should
a
large
claim
come
about
right,
councilman
moving.
If
it's
a
fire
51%
of
damage,
I'll
build
an
inspection,
the
father's
gonna
say
you
got
to
come
up
to
FEMA
plus
2.
You
see
well,
my
policy
paid
me
a
hundred
and
one
thousand
dollars.
Z
Z
So
it's
the
earthquake
in
thousands
of
houses,
get
damaged
everybody
that
doesn't
have
a
replacement
cover
methods
map
back.
If
you
don't
have
every
coverage
you're
not
coming
it
off.
Okay!
So
then
you're
talking
about
people
going
to
savings
I'll,
depending
on
the
federal
government,
with
FEMA
SBA
loans
exception.
Z
Z
Category
4
category
5
direct
hit,
you're
gonna,
have
tons
of
people,
that's
going
to
be
underinsured
because
they
don't
even
know
to
try
to
get
additional
insurance.
When
this
pass,
we
need
to
have
an
expert
from
the
property
&
casualty.
Department
I,
don't
know
whether
somebody
who
teaches
maybe
property
in
Kansas
colleges
and
universities
to
say,
okay,
we
understand
yeah.
We
may
save
a
few
dollars
on
the
flood
insurance
I
get
you
in
then
I
agree
with
you
on
me,
but
the
property
and
casualty
part
take.
Z
Z
West
funny:
ok,
that's
going
to
sell
for
400,000
or
more
okay.
It's
it's
gonna
be
easier
for
them
to
stay
with
under
the
50%
threshold
than
the
people
in
little
bar
and
little
bar
is
not
a
low
to
moderate
community.
So
the
moment
is
matter
of
fact:
councilman
Lewis,
your
house,
if
you
wouldn't
have
a
fire
or
again
the
hurricane,
took
your
roof
off
or
knock
few
walls
down,
and
you
said
I'm
gonna
put
my
house
back
just
to
where
it
is
because
you
on
the
peninsula,
you
may
be
able
to
get
a
variance
I.
Z
Think
we
need
to
look
at
this
from
the
standpoint
of
Property
and
Casualty
an
addition
to
flood
insurance
before
we
make
this
decision
and
I
don't
think
we're
doing
it.
We
haven't
gotten
any
information
from
the
standpoint,
in
particular,
people
who
have
do
not
have
I'd
like
to
hear
some
profess
or
some
expert
in
property
casualty
industry
that
says,
if
you
don't
have
the
broad
form
of
coverage
on
your
house
or
your
rental
property
or
your
commercial
property.
How
is
this
going
to
affect
you?
Virtually
everybody.
Z
AO
What
councilman
wearing
is
is
saying:
I
mean
there.
Is
this
extended
replacement
cost
that
a
lot
of
people
have
on
their
homeowners?
The
problem
is
when
people
are
buying
a
house
today,
they
call
around
get
insurance
quotes
and
looking
for
the
cheapest
quote.
Well,
the
cheapest
quote:
isn't
gonna
have
the
extended
replacement
cost
on
it?
So
so
there's
a
lot
of
people
there
that
they're,
only
their
insurance
company
is
only
going
to
pay
what
they
have
on
their
policy,
even
if
it
costs
more
to
rebuild
they're
going
to
cut
off
at
that
amount.
AO
So
that
that's
what
he's
trying
to
say
now
there
there
are.
There
are
extended
replacement,
cost
policies
that
you
can
get
where
if
it
costs
more
than
that,
you
know
the
policy
will
pay
above
that,
but
so
many
people
opt
to
go,
particularly
when
they're
trying
to
get
a
mortgage
and
you're
trying
to
buy
as
much
house
as
they
can
they're
trying
to
keep
that
escrow
down.
They
just
will
not
purchase
that
additional
coverage
in
a
lot
of
in
a
lot
of
cases.
I
AN
I
A
Z
A
We're
trying
to
address
the
long-term
effect
of
flooding
and
sea
level
rise,
we've
just
heard
tonight
did
the
science
is
solid,
that
fifty
years
from
now,
you're
gonna
have
two
to
three-foot
sea
level
rise
above
what
we
already
got
right
now,
I,
don't
know
about
y'all,
but
if
I
were
to
build
a
new
house
or
to
substantially
renovate
my
existing
house,
I'd
want
to,
you
know,
get
a
pretty
substantial
life
out
of
it.
So
the
whole
point
of
this
is
to
reduce
the
flood
damage
and
in.
I
A
It
saves
us
some
money.
Yes,
it's
consist
diction's
are
doing
around
this,
so
the
home
builder
doesn't
have
to
plan
one
way
to
do
it
in
the
donut
hole
in
Charleston
County
versus
the
city
of
Charleston,
so
we'll
be
on
the
same
level,
which
is
good.
So
you
know
I,
guess
you
we
could
have
actual
what
aerial
analysis
by
the
insurance
industry.
A
I
Z
Tell
you
that's
thing
about
reason
about
foot
assault.
You
are
incorrect
on
that
councilman.
Seeking
just
pointed
that
out.
You
are
incorrect
that
you
just
have
to
go
up
one
more
feet:
foot
that's
dependent
on
your
base,
flood
level.
So,
if
you're
at
at
6:00-
and
you
have
to
go
to
15
X
9
feet
that
depends
on
where
the
house
is
and
what
their
base
level
is.
It
is
not
one
additional
foot
all.
A
Z
Y
Hear
you
argument,
counsel,
my
wearing
that's
a
fact.
I
understand
your
position,
but
if
your
house
is
damaged,
50
percent
or
more
you're
gonna
have
to
raise
it
anyhow,
that's
the
problem.
You
gonna
have
to
raise
it
anyhow,
unless
you
can
get
it
unless
you
get
a
variance,
but
if
you
can't
get
a
variance,
you're
gonna
have
to
raise
it.
Y
The
question
is:
we're
gonna
stand
in
right
now,
two
plus
one,
so
the
example
that
he
gave
they're
putting
on
what
would
your
flood
zone
is
what
your
baseline
is
right
now,
you're
still
gonna
be
at
that
point,
plus
one:
that's
the
stage
right
in
the
high.
So
if
we
do
nothing
at
all
in
something
happen
to
this
city,
if
it's
an
earthquake
as
a
tornado
is
a
major
flood
in
your
houses,
them
in
your
properties,
damage
like
50%
or
more
you're
gonna
have
to
raise
it
to
some
standard.
Y
Z
Y
But
I
think
that
I
think
this
is
what
is
getting
that's
a
little
off
a
little
bit,
no
matter
where
we
are,
we
have
a
standard
right
now
we're
either
standard
right
now
in
to
rebuild
or
renovate
that
property
we're
gonna
have
to
go
to
that
standard.
It's
gonna
cost
us
whether
or
not
you're,
insured,
properly
or
underinsured.
This
could
be
a
problem
for
us
and
you
write
about
the
folks
whether
they
actually
given
a
variance
is
gonna,
be
much
more
difficult
but
they're.
Y
AE
AE
I
think
what
we
need
to
be
aware
of
the
elevation
that
that
I
have
situated
at
is
it's
not
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
us.
That's
out
of
our
control.
So
really
all
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
potentially
increasing
the
replacement
cost
of
a
property
owner
and
using
the
2,000
square
foot
footprint
on
mr.
dokas
chart.
It
was
eight
hundred
and
ninety
dollars
to
raise
that
house.
Another
foot,
that's
the
only
thing
we're
deciding
in
here.
AE
We've
already
raised
it
one
foot:
we
can't
control
the
elevation
that
the
houses
is
mapped
up
by
the
FEMA
program.
All
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
making
new
houses
one
foot
higher
and
anyhow
it's
reflex
one
foot
higher
than
it
would
have
to
be.
If
it
happened
tonight.
If
a
house
had
to
be
replaced
tonight,
they
would
be
doing
elevation
plus
one
foot
and
all
we're
talking
about
it's
adding
one
more
foot.
Z
Z
E
E
AC
But
just
kind
of
say
something
really
briefly:
I
mean
Stephen.
Thank
you.
By
the
way
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that's
been
impressive.
Is
how
prepared
you
are
tonight.
You
really
know
what
you're
talking
about
so
that
gives
us
a
lot
of
confidence,
and
you
haven't
been
in
that
job
for
very
long.
So
there's
a
lot
to
know
and
there's
a
lot
to
think
about.
So
what
I'm
sitting
here
thinking
about
this?
This
is
not
a
zoning
ordinance.
This
is
a
different
ordinance,
not
a
zoning
ordinance.
AC
We
have
already
learned
from
the
Supreme
Court
of
South
khana.
We
can
treat
people
differently
through
zoning
ordinances.
This
isn't
a
new
zoning
ordinance,
so
the
lawyer
and
me
start
seeing
about
equal
protection
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
I
think
that
we
need
to
look
at
and
there's
lots
of
neighborhoods
that
are
historic,
neighborhoods
that
aren't
in
the
historic
district,
but
a
lot
of
history
of
them
and
a
lot
of
has
to
do
with
their
architecture
when
they
look
at.
We
need
to
look
at
mr.
AC
AC
We
gotta
figure
that
out,
but
you
know,
and
what
I
didn't
think
about
West
Pawnee
in
that
area,
where
it's
really
sort
of
a
cool
neighborhood
is
a
uniform
and
everything
looks
the
same,
and
you
know
that
just
makes
it
really
charming.
So
I
think
we
have
to
think
about
the
equal
protection
factor
in
this
and
making
sure
everyone's
treated
equally.
You
know
because
natural
disasters
don't
hit
everybody
equally,
but
these
requirements
don't
either
and
that's
a
little
bit
of
an
issue
for
me
for
me.
So.
AN
They're
there
sorry
sorry,
I
was
just
gonna
respond
really
quickly
at
that
point,
that
just
last
night,
at
the
board
of
appeals
under
the
building
code
meeting,
we
had
a
request
for
an
elevation
variance
for
a
home
in
burns
towns
they're
partially
because
of
the
shutdown
there's
been
kind
of
a
paperwork
shuffle,
because
in
order
to
grant
that
historic
variance
need
paperwork
from
the
federal
government
so
but
that
consideration
is
already
being
given
to
properties
off
the
peninsula.
We.
I
AN
AF
AN
AN
AF
Want
address
that
your
two
responses
in
two
ways
number
one
in
response
to
the
requirement
or
the
guidelines
recommendation
by
FEMA.
We
just
talked
about
giving
variances.
If
all
of
a
sudden,
everybody
gets
a
variance
for
the
sake
of
not
doing
it
when
they
replace,
we
haven't
made
any
impact
to
existing
structures,
only
new
construction,
so
that's
sort
of
number
one.
But
the
second
thing
is:
is
that
the
decrease
in
cost
in
that
just
asked
counter?
Surely
this
is
he's?
AF
Obviously,
in
the
business
of
insurance,
we
might
benefit
from
a
deduct
of
reduction
in
cost
for
flood
insurance,
but
every
insurance
company
who
identifies
that
we're
not
FEMA,
plus
two
they're,
going
to
immediately
upon
renewal,
they're,
going
to
know
that
and
they're
going
to
immediately
assess
each
and
every
person's
home
with
additional
cost
for
the
expectation
of
the
replacement
being
higher
than
what
it
is
today.
So
their
premiums
going
up
on
that
side
for
sure.
AF
So
whether
or
not
we
actually
get
a
net
net
cost
savings,
I
would
say:
I'm,
not
an
expert
enough
to
know,
but
I
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
variance
every
year,
my
insurance
policy
renews
every
year
my
insurance
company
says.
Oh,
we
think
you
need
X
month
dollars
more
because
the
value
of
your
house
has
gone
up
into
costs
and
blah
blah
blah.
This
is
going
to
come
up
for
sure
guaranteed.
AF
So
if
there's
not
a
reason
why
we
can't
make
it
for
new
construction
only,
it
seems
to
me
that
we
probably
should
consider
it
because
everything
we've
talked
about
from
this
point
forward
tonight
and
actually,
when
we
talked
about
the
first
time,
is
all
about
replacement,
not
new
construction.
I.
Don't
think
anybody
argues
about
the
new
construction
component.
You
can
factor
it
into
the
purchase
price.
You
understand
what
the
cost
is.
You
know
going
in.
It's
the
replacement
piece
that
everybody's
got
heartburn
about.
Z
AN
Just
a
couple
more
numbers
that
will
add
to
kind
of
help
paint
a
picture
of
how
often
we
see
a
substantial
damage
or
substantial
improvement
since
the
beginning
of
2015,
so
including
all
of
the
major
flooding
events
that
we
have
seen
in
the
last
four
years,
as
well
as
fires
and
any
other
source
of
damage.
There
have
been
a
total
of
a
dozen
substantial
damage
determinations
made
in
the
city
of
Charleston
in
the
last
four
years
in
the
in
the
entire
Charleston
County.
In
the
last
four
years
there
have
been
a
total
of
50.
AN
AN
A
AC
A
Z
Program
and
we
funded
it
last
year,
and
then
we
came
back
this
year
to
zero,
so
I
want
to
throw
it
out,
hopefully
not
tonight,
but
we
can
hopefully
work
out
some
funding
or
miss
Lisa's
in
our
program,
because
the
sister
city
program
certainly
seem
to
be
something
that's
beneficial
to
Charleston.
We
are
international
City
and
certainly
that
that
delft
still
together,
so
I
would
hope
that
we
can
get
together
and
get
okay.
Okay,.