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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 12/21/2021
A
B
B
Here
and
now,
if
you
would
like
to
join
us,
councilmember
sheila
is
going
to
join
lead
us
in
invocation
and
pledge
of
allegiance
councilmember.
D
D
Complete
recovery
for
we
thank
you
for
the
gifts
and
the
talents
of
all
of
our
city
staff
and
for
all
they've
done
for
the
serving
people
of
charleston.
We
ask
to
continue
to
bless
them
and
guide
them.
We've
asked
to
watch
over
our
firefighters,
our
police
officers
and
others
who
are
keeping
ourselves.
D
B
B
So
if
I
may
share
just
a
couple
of
announcements
and
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping
and
council
member
sheila,
thank
you
for
that
wonderful
prayer
this
evening,
in
the
very
unlikely
event
that
we
need
to
evacuate
the
building.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
options,
there's
two
doors
here
from
the
main
chamber
and
then
the
door
from
the
room
over
to
my
right.
B
So
if
that
were
to
occur,
unless,
unless
you
need
the
elevator,
we
wouldn't
advise
using
the
elevator
go
down
the
two
sets
of
stairs
and
then
there's
just
the
one
set
of
stairs
going
out
the
front
door
downstairs.
So
that's
the
evacuation
plan.
If
we
in
the
unlikely
event
we
needed
to
vacate
so.
Secondly,
I
wanted
before
we
got
going
just
to
wish
my
colleagues
here
and
really
everyone
present
the
most
wonderful
and
blessed
christmas
and
holiday
season
this
year.
B
I
think
I
think
we're
in
a
good
spot
to
have
an
incredible
christmas
here
in
charleston
and
a
great
holiday,
and
I
hope,
everybody's
going
to
be
able
to
take
some
time
with
your
family
and
your
loved
ones
and
really
have
some
some
quality
time
for
the
holidays
this
year.
So
merry
christmas,
everyone
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
congratulate
councilmember
appel
and
his
wife
alexa
on
the
arrival
of
their
new
daughter,
joe
lee,
and
welcome,
welcome
to
fatherhood
and
keep
it
going
ross,
many
many
more
to
come.
B
I
hope
I
want
to
ask
everyone,
as
was
mentioned
in
the
prayer
earlier,
to
keep
chief
reynolds
in
your
prayers.
He
he
is
struggling
with
the
health
issue.
Right
now,
and
I
know
a
lot
of
people
are
thinking,
I'm
praying
for
him
and
let's
keep
that
up.
Let's
keep
that
up.
So
I
have
a
one
problem.
B
Only
one
proclamation
tonight
and
I
would
like
to
ask
edward
kronsberg
to
come
forward,
along
with
outgoing
ceo
of
charleston
housing
authority,
don
cameron
and
also
incoming
ceo
of
charleston
housing
authority,
art
milligan
and
also
the
incoming
chairman
of
charleston
housing
authority,
herb
partlow,
but
who
we're
really
recognizing
right
here
is
ed
cronsberg,
because
for
over
20
years
now
he's
been
the
volunteer
board
member
and
for
a
long
time,
chair
of
the
charleston
housing
authority.
B
We
recognize
outgoing
ceo
don
cameron
at
our
last
meeting
and
and
I
guess
they
they
kind
of
went
in
this
together
at
least
the
last
20
years.
They
made
a
pact
to
one
another.
I'm
told
that
when
one
left,
the
other
one
would
and
so
ed's
retiring
as
well.
B
For
over
two
decades,
edward
has
made
an
invaluable
has
been
an
invaluable
counselor
to
the
board,
having
served
in
various
leadership
capacities,
including
vice
chair
member
of
the
finance
committee,
director
of
weh
inc
and
chair
of
the
board,
whereas
during
his
time
with
the
housing
authority,
ed
demonstrated
a
strong
commitment
to
the
organization's
mission,
which
was
evinced
by
his
willingness
to
serve
his
his
penchant
for
meaningful
discussion
and
remarkable
and
his
remarkable
expertise.
B
Whereas
ed
ed's
contributions
as
a
thoughtful,
inclusive
and
enthusiastic
leader
are
unparalleled
and
will
be
greatly
missed
by
both
his
fellow
commissioners
and
housing
authority
staff.
The
city
of
charleston
would
like
to
thank
edward
kronsberg
for
his
years
of
dedication
and
exemplary
service
to
the
community.
We
wish
him
all
the
best
in
his
future
endeavors
and
therefore
I
john
j
techenberg
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston,
proclaimed
today,
tuesday
december
21st,
as
edward
cronsberg
day
in
the
city
of
charleston,
edwards.
E
Thank
you
so
much,
I'm
honored
to
be
here,
I'm
honored
to
be
in
such
a
historic
and
wonderful
setting
with
many
many
friends
that
I
look
as
I
look
around
the
room
with
mayor
teklenberg,
who
I
appreciate
everything
he's
done,
he's
been
a
wonderful
mentor
and
friend,
and
in
the
20
years
that
I
spent
at
the
housing
authority
were
absolutely.
E
Because
the
residents
the
housing
authority
looks
out
for
the
residents
they
care
about
them.
The
staff
don
cameron,
with
45
years
at
the
head
of
the
housing
authority,
really
set
the
standard
for
so
many
things.
E
E
B
H
Mr
mayor,
yes,
sir
councilmember
gregory,
I
think
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
don't
comment
don
has
been
there
45
years.
H
We
have
had
many
ceremonies
together.
Many
checks
exchanged
together
over
the
years
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you,
because
I'm
probably
one
of
the
few
people
on
council
that
has
worked
directly
with
you
over
the
years
and
to
the
chairman
the
same.
You
guys
are
appreciated
and
thank
you.
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and,
if
you
think
at
brownsburg
it's
only
about
affordable
housing.
Let
me
tell
you
he's
one
of
the
main
reasons
why
avondale
is
today.
Avondale
is
one
of
the
jewels
of
my
districts
and
we
share
it
with
councilman
sacrament,
of
course,
councilman
shayed.
I
won't
go
on
and
on
about
it,
a
lot
of
the
things
that
he
does
behind
the
scenes,
but
I
just
want
to
acknowledge.
E
A
I
B
Great
so
council,
member
mitchell.
J
Yes,
mayor
council
members,
I
have
worked
with
the
housing
authorities
since
1974
and
working
on
jar's
degree.
That's
been
the
housing
authority
on
jaws
degree
and
brick
with
dawn.
I
remember
when
don
got
hired
back
during
that
time
and
mr
sax
was
here
and
I
worked
I
used
to
handle
all
the
when
people
be
evicted
of
the
broad
of
the
public
housing
so
to
speak.
I
was
acting
as
the
judge
to
see
if
they're
going
to
be
evicted
or
not
and
also
assist
them
in
handling
delinquency,
rental
and
help.
J
Recap
a
lot
of
money
to
the
housing
authority
that
people
had
owed.
So
we
go
way
back
don
and
I
and
I'm
going
to
continue
working
with
the
new
ceo
when
it
comes
about
we're
going
to
meet
together
and
make
our
work
together,
and
so
we
can
continue
because
we
have
a
lot
of.
I
have
a
lot
of
public
housing
in
my
district,
where
I
represent
so
we'll,
be
working
together,
a
whole
lot
with
the
new
grad
program
and
whatever
else
is
coming
forward.
J
B
Well,
thank
you
for
those
comments
and
thank
you
don
and
I
attended
his
retirement
party.
The
other
night
and
his
family
got
together
and
presented
him.
This
really
hot
mustang.
He
is
ready
to
roll.
He
is
ready
to
roll
off
into
retirement
and
he's
not
counting
the
days,
but
there's
only
10
left
right.
B
The
the
last
announcement
I
wanted
to
share
with
council
and
the
public
is
that
shout
out
to
our
finance
department,
our
cfo
amy
wharton,
as
the
city
got
reviewed
again,
as
we
do
on
an
annual
basis
and
both
moody's
and
standard
and
poor
gave
us
a
triple
a
credit
rating
for
the
city
of
charleston
and
given.
B
Given
the
financial
challenges
of
the
last
couple
years,
that's
really
quite
an
accomplishment,
so
thank
you,
amy.
Thank
you.
All
your
staff
too,
mr.
K
Mayor,
that's
sort
of
the
understatement
of
the
challenges
was
not
what
she
faced.
She
failed
a
crisis
and
she
has
pulled
us
through
the
past
couple
of
years,
particularly
through
that
crisis,
and
I
just
we
don't
thank
our
staff
enough
that
you
keep
us
on
the
street.
Narrow
amy
have
a
great
christmas.
Thank.
B
You
all
right
so
next
up
is
our
public
hearings.
I
think
we
have
about
10
of
these
this
evening
and
either
christopher
morgan
or
mr
summerfield,
I
presume,
will
be
making
presentations
he'll
be
doing
that
on
the
screen.
All
right,
mr
morgan,.
L
Speak
up
yes,
sir.
Okay,
all
right
we're
gonna
go
through
these
now.
Here
we
go
all
right:
e1,
it's
a
rezoning
at
518,
east
bay
street
and
81
washington
street.
It's
two-thirds
of
an
acre.
It's
a
request
to
rezone
from
light
industrial
and
mixed
use,
workforce
housing,
and
also
from
the
five-story
and
wp
old
city,
height
district
to
six-story,
old
city,
height
district
on
portions
of
these
properties,
and
the
map
in
front
of
you
shows
this.
I
hope
you
all
can
see
my
cursor.
L
This
is
just
south
of
the
moloff's
plumbing
supply
house.
Here
it
is
north
of
charlotte
street.
The
ports
authorities
here
to
the
east
on
the
areas
in
red
that
are
heavy
industrial,
and
we
have
some
pictures
to
show
you
the
site
here
is
the
how
the
height
district
would
be
changed.
It
would
be
25
feet
in
from
east
bay
street
to
help
reduce
the
impact
of
that
six
story
on
the
view
shed
from
east
bay
street.
L
L
L
Here
are
some
images
of
the
property
again
a
porsche.
This
is
old,
mars
circle
warehouse
a
portion
of
it
is
a
lay
down
yard
for
the
moloff's
plumbing
supply
that
lay
down
yard
will
move
to
the
north
to
be
immediately
adjacent
to
the
the
moloff
supply.
L
Here's
another
image
with
the
port
in
the
background
and
here's
a
street
view
from
washington
street
and
a
street
view
from
east
bay
and
just
a
street
view
of
east
bay
in
the
vicinity
of
the
project
and
also
of
east
bay
here,
and
here
is
a
image
that
shows
you.
If
you
were
standing
on
charlotte
street,
how,
with
a
two
and
a
half
story,
building
on
charlotte
street,
as
there
are
already,
it
would
be
almost
impossible
to
see
that
kind
of
sixth
floor
there
at
518,
east
bay
and
also
how
from
east
bay.
B
D
Okay,
I'll
go
as
quick
as
I
can
good
evening.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
members.
My
name
is
hank
halford
with
minnetonka
construction
company
I'll
just
highlight
some
of
the
things
I
can
think
christopher
summarized
it
well.
Obviously,
it's
a
blighted
area
that
needs
some
redevelopment.
We
did
receive
unanimous
approval
from
the
planning
commission.
D
D
D
M
Everybody
notice
notice
to
this
body
and
therefore
my
deeper
concern
now
is
for
people's
free
speech
at
this
at
this
dais,
whether
or
not
public
safety
with
a
homeland
security
relationship,
which
is
like
852
sections
of
homeland
security
and
about
30
000
secs
in
the
violent
crime
patrol
northwestern
act
in
1994,
which
I
cited
and
my
deepest
concern
for
the
for
the
city
of
charleston.
I
don't
really
care
about
how
you
vote
a
rule
is
that
income
is
not
a
protected
class.
N
Thank
you
mayor
and
council
ben
chase,
representing
the
family
of
mars
local
llc.
The
family
has
been
a
good
steward
of
city
of
charleston.
This
property
is
a
little
bit
of
an
eyesore
we're
consolidating
the
properties
on
a
street,
we're
actually
moving
the
property
from
one
five-story
district
to
another.
So
we're
not
moving
properties
to
a
different
zoning.
To
ask
for
the
sixth
floor.
N
We
also
have
a
very
good
relationship
with
the
parking
we
requested,
the
parking
to
get
the
sixth
floor
to
have
two
floors
of
parking
not
to
build
more
units,
we've
cut
off
units
off
the
front
of
the
building
and
putting
them
on
top,
and
that
will
put
less
pressure
on
the
adjacent
neighborhoods
we're
very
respectful
of
that.
I
talked
to
robert
mitchell
in
between
planning
meetings.
This
was
vetted
by
two
planning
meetings.
N
N
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
members
of
council.
My
name
is
james
wilson,
with
the
womble
von
dickenson
law
firm
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
I
just
want
to
add
a
couple
of
quick
points.
First,
is
that
on
the
east
bay
street
side
of
the
property,
as
mr
morgan
explained,
we
are
setting
back
25
feet,
so
the
point
of
that
is
from
the
street
level.
It
would
not
be
visible
to
see
a
sixth
floor.
The
other
points
I
just
want
to
make
is
our
ordinance
does
say
for
requests
for
height
change.
N
Look
at
the
context
and
the
width
of
the
street
east
bay
street.
We
know
is
a
busy
wide
street
there
and
then
two
last
points.
One
is
that
this
is
within
the
city
center
under
the
new
comprehensive
plan
supposed
to
be
the
most
dense
urban
areas,
and
then
lastly,
planning
commission
gave
it
unanimous
approval.
Thank
you
very
much
and
please
let
us
know
if
you
have
any
questions.
C
And
mr
mayor,
we
did
receive
one
comment
online.
The
president
of
the
music
ragbora
neighborhood
association,
said
he
met
with
the
developers
and
was
concerned
that
drawings
were
not
provided
at
the
development's
size,
light
or
a
sight
line
in
traffic.
It
was
had
concerns
about
traffic
flow
density.
B
J
Yes,
mr
mayor,
I
spoke
with
the
developers
prior
to
this
couple
of
months
ago
and
I
give
them
my
point
of
view
on
what
they
were
planning
on
proposing
the
building,
and
I
said
well,
if
there's
not
going
to
be
any
workforce
housing
in
it.
I
was
not
going
to
support
it
and
I
told
them
up
right
that
I
would
would
not
support
it.
J
So
they
went
back
because
an
initial
they
didn't
have
any
workforce
housing
in
there.
So
they
went
back
and
worked
with
it
and
they
came
back
and
spoke
with
me
and
said.
Okay,
how
much
are
we
going
to
do
that?
I
said
it's
needed,
so
this
is
how
it
came
out
now
with
this
with
the
neighborhood
association.
J
This
is
not
in
the
neighborhood
association
district
at
all,
it's
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
street,
but
I
asked
them
to
go
to
the
neighborhood
association
just
to
inform
them
what
their
plans
was
and
they
did
it,
but
they
still
had
some
reservation
and
the
only
other
things
I
asked
them
to
do
is
look
at
exactly
how
the
traffic
was
going
to
be
done,
whereas
the
traffic's
going
to
come
out,
it's
going
to
come
on
washington
street,
I
was
going
to
come
on
east
bay
speaker.
J
I
said
we
don't
need
to
have
to
come
back
in
east
bay
street
because
it's
the
traffic
there's
two
are
congested
as
it
is
so
they're
going
to
turn
it
through
washington
street,
so
that
will
make
it
not
difficult
for
the
people
to
come
on
east
space,
because
these
space
readers-
I
mean
it's
terrible
as
it
is.
So
all
this
was
done
and
I
met
with
them
and
put
all
these
in
place
and
they
have,
you
know,
adhered
to
what
I
asked
him
to
do
so.
J
I
know
the
neighbor
association
say
this
that
he,
the
new
president
of
the
neighbor
association,
he's
not
going
to
you
know,
go
forth,
but
that's
the
planning
commission
that
have
already
approved
it
and
it
has
to
also
go
through
the
bar,
I
believe,
and
so,
and
so
it's
still
not
over
with
until
it
goes
to
the
bar
and
then
let's
go
to
the
br
ain't,
nothing
we
can
do
anyway
if
they
approve
their
disapproval,
so
they
have
done
what
I
asked
them
to
do
and
you
know-
and
so
I'm
kind
of
satisfied
with
it.
B
You
any
other
comments
or
questions
and
and
I'll
just
add
that
it's
good
to
have
some
workforce
housing
there.
Initially.
I
would
have
thought
that
maybe
it
was
our
new
fee
structure
that
incented
them
to
put
some
actual
units
in
the
facility,
but
now
I
understand
they
had
a
meeting
with
councilmember
mitchell
and
that's
how
that
happened,
but
regardless
we're
glad
that
you're
going
to
include
some
of
the
units
right
on
the
property.
L
All
right,
this
is
on
river
road
on
john's
island.
It's
the
gardens
at
riverview.
It's
amendment
to
this
pud
to
add
an
additional
area
into
the
pud.
It's
going
from
rural,
residential
and
conservation
to
be
part
of
the
pud,
the
gardens
at
riverview,
and
what
you
see
on
the
image
here
is
river
road
on
john's
island.
The
the
portions
of
the
adjoining
developments
that
this
will
connect
between
are
here
on
either
side.
One.
The
northwest
side
is
a
pud
that
this
will
become.
L
Part
of
the
southeastern
side
is
just
standard
rr1,
this
or
as
yes,
rr1
excuse
me,
and
the
rr1,
of
course,
is
a
three
and
a
half
unit,
an
acre
density.
The
pud
actually
will
take
it
down
to
about
2.8
units
an
acre,
so
it's
actually
a
reduction
in
density.
L
The
areas
that
currently
are
conservation
will
remain
protected
in
the
pud
as
well
and
I'll
show
you
that
in
the
documents
here
it
is
in
the
new
city
plan.
Again
it's
in
our
suburban
edge
designation,
which
is
less
than
four
units
an
acre,
so
it
meets
that
requirement.
The
area
that
is
the
low
impact
and
conserved
area
is
going
to
be
conserved
and
not
built
in
so
that
is
in
line
with
the
city
plan.
Recommendations,
and
here
is
an
aerial
of
the
site.
L
There's
already
been
some
borrow
pit
construction
on
the
site,
and
you
see
how
the
adjoining
developments
have
links
that
will
be
made
through
this
project,
so
it
has
always
been
master
plan
to
have
that
connectivity
and
this
portion
of
the
site
developed
as
well
and
in
conjunction
with
the
adjoining
developments
here,
is
the
pud
itself,
where
you
have
the
single
family
residential
in
this
area.
This
is
the
protected
area
that
has
wetlands
and
that
will
be
protected.
L
There
also
will
be
a
large
buffer
along
river
road,
as
is
already
in
place
with
the
other
two
portions
of
the
development
and
and
then
here
are
the
details
on
it.
There
are
smaller
minimum
lots,
but
that
lets
them
put
the
lots
in
the
best
places
on
the
site
and
still
not
go
over
the
density
recommendations
that
are
have
already
been
discussed
here.
L
It
is
with
the
ponds
and
some
of
the
streets
that
will
be
connecting
the
two
segments
of
the
development
and
also
out
to
river
road
and
just
more
information
on
the
open
space.
It's
meeting
all
our
open
space
requirements
of
a
planned
unit,
development
and
the
street
sections,
and
this
is
more
information
on
street
sections,
and
our
planning
commission
has
reviewed
it
and
recommended
it
eight
to
zero
as
well.
M
Same
address,
I
really
don't
care
how
you
vote
on
it.
My
concern
is
under
the
public
safety
act
under
the
public
safety
commission
commissioners,
but
due
to
my
arberry
and
the
fact
that
police
power
is
local
and
therefore
my
deep
concern
for
this
is
title:
federal
law
enforcement,
section,
federal
judiciary,
federal
law
enforcement,
title
state
and
local
law
enforcement,
subtitled
police
pattern
of
practice,
section
causa
action,
excessive
use
of
force.
So
again
we
need
to
get
third
party
data
on
anybody
going
through
any
all-white
subdivision,
jogging
or
walking.
C
We
did
receive
one
comment
from
the
johns
island
council
that
expressed
opposition
to
the
rezoning
and
they
said
that
it
would
allow
for
possible
unwanted,
increased
density
and
remove
desperately
needed
conservation.
Zoning
and
it
was
signed
by
11
members,
and
those
are
all
the
comments
that
we
received.
B
I
You
mayor,
thank
you
christopher.
I
I
I
know
that
councilman
brady
is
with
us
virtually,
so
I
certainly
don't
want
to
get
in
front
of
his
favorable
comments.
It
just
occurred
to
me
as
we
were
looking
at
the
diagram.
The
maps
that
I
was
morgan
was
showing
this
just
now
that
it
it's
becoming
clear.
I
I,
during
the
real
estate
committee
meeting
yesterday
when
we
were
being
asked
to
take
over
a
connector
road
that
the
county
was
hosting
and
we
were
going
to
be
maintaining
it,
and
I
was
a
little
clueless
about
what
city
would
join
in
to
take
the
responsibility
for
maintaining
county
property.
But,
looking
at
this,
it
is
becoming
clear
that
the
more
that
we
can
connect
all
of
these
long,
thin
properties
that
have
been
up
and
down
payback
iowa,
especially
on
john's
island,
for
generations.
That.
C
I
C
N
A
I
Their
business
or
enjoy
amenities
or
get
to
their
favorite
watering
hole
or
cleaners
without
getting
out
on
the
maybank.
I
think
that's
a
really.
You
know
a
worthy
cause
ongoing
so
to
see
the
connections
not
from
this
drawing
but
the
one
right
after
and
I
think
where
they
show
the
buildup.
B
L
Yes,
sir,
this
is
also
on
john's
island.
It's
at
the
intersection
of
river
road
and
maybank
highway.
It's
the
village
at
fenwick
pod,
it's
an
amendment.
This
is
property.
The
city
of
charleston
has
bought
for
affordable
housing,
and
this
is
a
relatively
minor
amendment
to
this
planned
unit
development
in
the
whole
scheme
of
things
and
I'll
kind
of
explain
why?
But
the
property
is
here
just
above
the
northern
pitchfork
road
right
of
way,
which
will
hopefully
be
getting
under
construction
next
year.
It's
immediately
adjacent
also
to
river
road.
It's
just
north
of
maybank
highway.
L
The
food
lion
is
here,
so
it's
a
great
location
for
a
little
bit
denser
housing
in
a
location
like
this
on
john's
island
and
also
for
affordable
housing.
This
is
where
it
shows
in
our
city.
In
our
new
city
plan,
it
is
one
of
the
city
centers
on
john's
island,
so
that's
very
much
in
keeping
with
the
character
that
the
pud
would
allow
for
here.
L
It
is
immediately
adjacent
to
a
site
that
is
going
to
have
some
small
lot.
Single-Family
housing
and
also
the
beach
company
is
building
multi-family
buildings.
Here
you
don't
see
the
the
height
of
these,
but
these
are
three-story
buildings
that
will
be
built
along
the
northern
pitchfork
road,
so
having
a
little
bit
of
height
on
that
roadway
makes
sense.
L
It's
not
directly
on
maybank
highway,
it's
on
the
secondary
northern
pitchfork
road,
and
we
would
also
reduce
the
heights
in
this
pud
amendment
to
make
sure
that
they
are
not
any
greater
than
three
stories
adjacent
to
the
fenwick
hall
plan
site
proper.
The
the
four-story
height
would
be
over
here
closer
to
the
northern
pitchfork.
L
This
amendment
would
allow
for
about
150,
single-family
or
multi-family
residential
units
on
the
site
that
gives
us
more
diversity
of
housing
types
as
we're
building
this
affordable
housing
in
this
location.
At
present,
given
the
proposal
for
the
adjoining
property,
there
could
already
be
about
137
units
on
it.
L
They
just
couldn't
have
been
multi-family,
so
the
multi-family
allows
us
to
build
more
efficient
housing
that
could
be
used
for
the
affordable
aspect,
so
that
aspect
of
going
to
150
units
and
the
four-story
height
allowance,
with
the
exception
of
within
50
feet
of
the
fenwick
hall
site,
where
it
would
go
to
no
more
than
three
stories.
Those
are
really
the
amendments
that
are
coming
forward
in
to
this
pud
and
being
brought
to
you
at
council.
Planning
commission
did
recommend
approval
of
this
amendment.
B
M
I
actually
support
this.
This
plan,
probably
only
I
support
tonight,
but
the
key
piece
of
those
those
those
residents
that'll
be
there.
You
are
not
protected
by
income.
Okay,
the
planet
enabling
act
does
not
provide
for
this
city
or
any
city
or
county
to
protect
you
from
anything.
Regarding
any
impacts,
you
can't
determine
or
identify
policies
and
practices
without
income
being
in
these.
These
protected
classes.
B
C
We
had
one
comment
that
was
submitted
online
for
this
item.
One
person
said
that
they
supported
the
establishment
of
the
village
at
fenwick
hud.
C
E
And
I'm
supportive
of
this
project
with
the
northern
pitch
work
being
fully
funded
by
the
county
and
the
and
where
this
is
situated.
E
I
I
want
to
also
be
clear
that
the
while
it
is
100
up
to
150
units
where
this
is
situated
on
john's
island
being
close
to
the
ability
to
get
to
james
island
and
other
work,
centers
makes
sense,
rather
than
putting
it
even
further
away
on
john's
island.
E
This
particular
property
makes
sense
to
have
the
affordable
housing
there
and
also
being
able
to
have
the
mix,
I
think,
is
really
important
and
that
shouldn't
go
without
saying
that
there
there's
an
ownership
component
as
well
as
a
rental
component
as
well,
and
so
this
is
a
good
kind
of
gateway
for
folks
on
the
affordable
and
attainable
housing
side
to
be
able
to
to
get
into
a
property
and
then
be
able
to
work
to
build
equity
and
then
use
it
as
kind
of
a
stepping
stone.
I
think
exactly
where
it
is.
I
Is
is
not
relevant
right
now
I
mean,
I
don't
think
it
is
about
his
condition.
Question
I'm
going
to
ask,
but
I'm
just
curious.
Are
we
expecting
that
we
will
vote
favorably
to
to
do
this
rezoning
and
then
find
a
private
developer
partner,
or
do
we
already
have
some
waiting
in
the
wings
that
want
us
to
be
zoned?
The
way
that
we're
proposing
tonight.
B
We
have
put
a
rfp
out
for
to
partner
with
someone
on
on
the
development
of
the
site-
I
think
they're
just
in,
but
they
haven't
maybe
been
reviewed
by
a
committee.
Yet.
O
I
But
whether
we
had
that
developer
lined
up
to
be
part
of
this
filled
out,
we
would
want
this
zoning
to
happen
no
matter.
What
is
that
absolutely.
B
L
Yes-
and
this
is
an
amendment
to
our
accessory
dwelling
unit-
ordinance
the
when
it
was
originally
written-
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
ordinance
required
permanent
affordability
of
those
units
and
I'm
gonna.
L
Let
miss
miss
johnson,
come
up
in
just
a
minute
and
and
give
more
clarification
on
this,
but
essentially
the
feeling
has
been
that
that
has
been
holding
back
some
folks
from
who
might
who
might
normally
build
some
of
these
accessory
dwelling
units,
and
so
this
is
an
amendment
that
would
allow
it
to
be
for
or
required
to
be
affordable
for
just
30
years,
and
the
hope
is
that
that
will
lead
to
more
people
being
willing
to
build
accessory
units.
O
Thank
you
christopher.
I
would
simply
add
for
council's
information.
Well
after
we
decided,
we
were
moving
forward
with
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
ordinance.
We
had
a
article
printed
in
the
post
and
courier,
where
we
got
quite
a
bit
of
interest
in
this
ordinance.
We
have
maintained
a
list
of
25,
plus,
maybe
more
than
that
in
individuals
that
are
interested.
O
So
when
I
explained
that
to
the
citizens
that
were
interested,
they
were
not
quite
as
interested
anymore,
and
so
we
proposed,
as
a
result
of
that,
having
a
time
frame
attached
to
it,
naturally
being
in
affordable
housing.
We
prefer
perpetuity,
because
then
we
know
that
it
is
available
for
the
long
term,
but
since
that
discussion
and
since
that
article
went
forward
and
with
the
understanding
or
the
inference
that
perpetuity
was
there,
we've
not
had
anyone
desiring
to
participate.
O
B
M
K
M
What
I
would
say
to
support
gianna's
position
is:
we
need
to
get
some
corporate
partners
wells,
fargo
comcast,
even
in
post
industries,
alphabet
inc,
boeing,
volvo
all
have
gotten
tax
incentives
to
help
their
profits,
while
poor
people
get
no
incentives
at
all,
and
therefore
this
plan
is
a
point
hope
that
the
chamber
of
commerce,
rotary
club
and
all
these
people
who
come
in
here
as
indirect
and
direct
lobbyists
to
get
money
out
of
this
budget
and
grants
and
programs
support
this
effort.
C
C
B
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
this
is
a
very
important
ordinance.
F
We
all
know
how
important
an
issue
affordable
housing
is
in
the
city
of
charleston,
and
you
know:
affordable
housing
takes
a
lot
of
reforms
and
one
of
the
most
intriguing
and
interesting
forms
that
I
see
are
accessory
dwelling
units,
and
you
know
guys
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Y'all
heard
me
talk
about
this.
Often
I'm
trying
not
to
belabor
it
too
much,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
price
is
a
product
of
supply
and
demand,
and
we
have
a
major
supply
side
problem
in
this
city.
F
We
don't
have
any
problem
on
the
demand
side.
There's
plenty
of
people
that
want
to
live
in
the
city
of
charleston
as
close
to
the
peninsula
or
on
the
peninsula,
as
they
can.
We've
got
to
find
a
way
to
get
more
supply
on
the
market,
and
you
know
gianna
mentioned
a
very
important
point.
A
minute
ago,
we
substantial
I
mean
one
of
the
biggest
impediments
to
adus
over
the
years
has
not
been
affordable,
housing,
deed
restrictions
and
things
of
that
nature.
It's
been
zoning,
it's
been
things
like
setback
requirements.
F
F
F
If
we
take
this
affordability
requirement
off
the
table
entirely,
because
here's
why
I
live
in
burns
downs
right,
if
I
wanted
to
drop
an
affordable
housing,
you
know
an
adu
in
my
backyard.
I
would
have
to
restrict
the
amount
of
rent
I
could
charge
on
that
unit
for
30
years.
I'm
37
it
would
take
I'd,
be
almost
70
years
old
by
the
time
that
thing
burns
off.
F
You
know
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
long,
that's
a
long
time
and
here's
the
thing.
I
just
think
that
a
30-year,
affordable,
housing,
restrictive
covenant
requirement
will
cause
us
to
not
have
any
adus
built
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
ultimately
it
will
be
counter-productive
and
we
won't
get
to
where
we
want
to
be
now.
F
If
we
want
to
set
aside
some
money
out
of
our
fee
and
lieu
fund
from
all
these
mixed-use
workforce
housing
projects
that
are
going
up
on
the
peninsula,
and
we
have
a
little
program
that
says
we
got
a
hundred
grand
every
year.
First
come
first
serve
we'll
help
you
build
it.
City
of
charleston
will
partner
with
you
on
doing
an
adu,
but
in
exchange
for
that
money
you
got
to
put
a
deed
restriction.
F
I
get
that
entirely,
but
guys
we
have
got
to
let
the
free
market
work
when
it
comes
to
housing.
Right
now
we
have
a
very
broken
dysfunctional
housing
market
and
it's
causing
major
supply-side
constraints.
You've
got
to
get
more
housing
built
so
that
naturally
drives
prices
down.
That's
how
prices
work
in
every
other
context
in
our
economy,
whether
it
be
tvs,
whether
it
be
cars,
maybe
not
lately
with
some
of
these
supply
chain
issues
and
things
like
that,
but
before
all
that
one
other
quick
anecdote,
I
promise
I'll
I'll
wrap
up
soon.
F
There's
no
state
in
the
country
that
has
worse,
affordable
housing
problems
than
the
state
of
california
right,
if
you
think
little
bungalows
and
burns
downs
are
overpriced.
There
are
millions
of
dollars
in
silicon
valley
and
some
of
those
other
places
guys
charleston
is
heading
in
that
direction.
We're
not
going
to
be
there
we're
not
there
today,
we're
not
going
to
be
there
tomorrow,
but
we're
on
the
way
to
this
problem
is
only
going
to
get
worse.
F
F
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
get
the
free
market
working
in
housing.
I
know
that
sounds
scary.
The
intent
is
right.
We
all
share
the
same
intent,
but
you
can't
cram
affordability
down
people's
throats
because
they're
not
going
to
build
the
housing.
People
want
to
try
to
make
a
buck
if
they're
going
to
be
building
an
affordable
unit
in
their
backyard,
and
we
don't
restrict
pricing
in
other
sectors.
The
economy
we
just
need
to.
Let
our
citizens
build
these
things
and
let's
get
to
work
on
solving
our
problem.
F
So
if
I
may
I'd
like
to
propose
an
amendment
to
this
ordinance,
I'd
like
to
move
that
we
strike
all
references
to
deed,
restricted,
affordable
housing
requirements,
it
would
be
subsection
a2
as
well
as
subsection
g,
three
four
and
eight,
and
let's
look
at
maybe
one
of
those
city
partnership,
things
where
we
can
maybe
help
some
people
in
exchange
for
some
deed
restrictions.
So
that's
my
motion.
Thank
you.
G
B
All
right
any
discussion
who,
who
made
the
motion.
C
Sheila
and
mitchell
and
then
appel
council
member
appel,
made
a
motion
to
a
man
that
was
seconded
by
council
members
seeking
I'm.
D
P
F
I
would
just
say
we
haven't
had
a
free
market
in
housing
on
this
peninsula
in
at
least
a
century.
Ever
since
we've
had
zoning,
we've
we've
been
telling
people
you
can
only
build
so
high.
You
can
only
build
so
dense
in
the
vast
majority
of
the
peninsula.
Oh
by
the
way,
it's
got
to
look
real,
real,
real,
real,
pretty
that
are
those
are
government
injections
into
the
market
that
distort
the
market.
We
have
the
biggest
supply
side
restraint
on
houses
in
the
city
of
charleston.
His
is
us
it's
through
our
regulations.
F
It's
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
we
talk
about
how
hard
it
is
for
people
to
get
through
the
planning
process.
It's
you
know
the
two-thirds
vote.
You
know
issue
on
planning
commission
over
the
years,
so
I
would
just
respond
to
that
by
saying
we
really
don't
have
a
free
market
in
housing.
The
time
that
we
did
have
a
free
market
in
housing
on
the
peninsula
was
before
zoning,
and
I
think
we
had
a
much
more
diverse,
much
more
dynamic
population
on
the
peninsula.
P
Councilmember
bell
myself
and
others
around
the
table
have
too
much
information
to
make
an
amendment
like
that,
in
my
opinion,
on
the
fly
and
get
the
full
details
out
of
it.
The
real
answer
that
question
was
there
have
been
no
affordable
housing
created
on
this
peninsula
by
the
private
market
without
incentives.
That's
the
real
answer.
I
mean
it
was
very
nice
words
that
you
say,
but
you
knew
the
answer
to
that.
The
answer
is
there
have
been
none
created
so
without
incentives.
P
I
agree
with
you
the
part
about
some
sort
of
incentive
to
help
them
build
it,
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
can
actually
do
as
a
city
in
the
council.
It
used
to
have
a
program
on
the
peninsula.
Ms
shaw
johnson
can
speak
to
this
that
if
you
built
affordable
housing,
it
was
one
bedroom,
two
bedrooms,
three
bedrooms:
you
actually
got
grant
money
or
forgivable
loan,
grant
slash,
grant
money
to
build
those
units
and
that
money
would
go
directly
towards
creating
those
affordable
units.
P
Now
we
need
to
get
back
to
something
like
that
to
help
that
homeowner
build
the
one
bedroom
all
the
two
bedroom
units.
I
doubt
there'd
be
a
three
bedroom
unit
in
that
backyard
as
a
grant
incentive
for
affordability.
Now
that
is
absent
in
this.
I
agree
with
you
on
that,
but
I
have
never
seen
on
this
peninsula
and
all
the
things
that
you're
talking
about
the
hype,
the
beauty
and
all
that
you're
right
about
that
it
has
really
incentivized
unaffordable
housing
and
when
I
mean
unaffordable,
housing,
the
same
people.
P
Sixteen
hundred
employees,
seventeen
hundred
employees,
the
ones
that
live
on
the
peninsula,
probably
have
a
house
that
I
would
say
a
legacy
house.
Their
parents
left
it
to
them
a
fireman,
a
policeman,
a
sanitation
workers.
P
They
can't
afford
to
live
on
this
peninsula.
So
to
say
that
the
private
sector
has
not
been
incentivized.
P
They
get
that
for
market
rate
house,
absolutely
nothing
for
affordability.
So
I
think
your
effort
and
collectively
I
think
we
can
come
up
with
a
better
way
to
incentivize
and
help
construct,
affordable
housing
to
make
it
cost
effective.
Because
at
another
council
meeting
you
brought
this
issue
up
and
I
said
that
if,
if
the
homeowner
is
putting
land
costs
into
developing
the
adu,
then
they
have
their
cash
flow
done
wrong.
P
They
cannot
depreciate,
they
own
a
occupied
house.
Maybe
if
they
got
a
little
home
office
or
something
like
that,
but
that
adu
in
the
back
rental
they
can
depreciate
that.
So
when
you
add
an
appreciation
which
is
not
an
out-of-pocket
expense
and
you
add
in
the
reduction
in
the
land
cost
you
can
create,
you
can
build
an
affordable
unit.
Now
I
agree
with
you.
It
needs
to
be
incentivized
and
I
think
there's
a
way
to
do
that,
but
not
a
knee-jerk
reaction
on
the
floor.
We
all.
I
P
Been
properly
informed
on
it,
let's
do
better.
I
think
we
can
do
better.
You
got
some
good
ideas,
but
it's
not
complete,
and
for
that
standpoint,
if
not
complete
I'd
move
for
a
deferral,
so
we
can
explore
those
ideas
a
lot
better,
so
we
can
help
come
up
with
incentive
sanity,
incentivize.
A
P
J
J
Yes,
I
was
sent
very
carefully
even
to
the
adu
and
that
this
came
about,
I
think,
was
a
councilman
waring
and
myself
and
cosman
gregory
was
something
going
on
with
a
particular
person
in
my
family,
and
we
talked
about
it
and
said
something
have
to
be
done.
I'd
like
to
it
was,
my
sister
was
going
through
a
problem
in
her
hut
and
died
and
her
she
have
a
big
house
there
and
she
was
about
to
lose
the
house
on
mount
pleasant
street
on
clemson
avenue
would
be
me
so
councilman
waring
said
you
know.
J
J
J
When
I
work
for
hud
all
those
years
adam
about
affordable
housing,
if
you
give
a
personal
open
range
and
you
figure
they're
going
to
build,
affordable
housing
no
way
did
not
it's
not
going
to
happen,
and
that
was
my
point
on
it
and
I
got
a
little
disturbed
when
I
heard
this
take
this
out.
Counseling
gregory
wanted
to
put
40
years
in
there.
J
We
came
and
said
no
we'll
do
what
that
we're
not
going
to
do
with
the
40
years,
because,
as
johnson
already
spoke,
that
the
people
didn't
come
forth
with
100
perpetuity.
So
we
said:
okay,
let's
do
30
years.
J
Because
if
you
look
at
this
peninsula,
this
peninsula
have
changed
so
much
and
the
people
look
like
me
is
not
here
now
they're
gone,
I've
been
here
73
years
and
I
can
tell
you
about
king
street,
I
worked
on
king
street
my
whole
life
for
my
junior
year,
high
school,
every
man's
store
on
king
street
every
last
one
from
father
and
son
to
jd
needles.
That's
not
there
anymore!
J
A
lot
of
these
people.
Don't
even
know
about
that.
So
don't
they
can't
tell
me
about
king
street
and
the
merchants
that
was
on
king
street,
the
merchants
that
received
money
from
people
who
looked
like
me
and
became
wealthy
if
you're
me
and
now
we're
throwing
everybody
under
the
bridge,
we
they
can't
even
stay
here
anymore.
My
kid's
going
to
stay
here.
My
daughter
brought
a
house
up
in
in
latin.
J
They
can't
stay
here
because
it's
not
affordable
because
we
don't
have
the
businesses
here
that
pay
that
kind
of
money
for
them
to
rent
things
wrong
here
in
this
peninsula.
So
when
I
look
at
these
things,
I
look
at
it
very
seriously
for
everyone
to
live
here.
Even
some
of
the
young
people
who
moving
back
here
is
casting
difficult
to
stay
in
this
peninsula.
J
Here
we
have
let
this
go
crazy
out
here
with
the
rental
I
lived
in
new
york
all
those
years
17
years
we
had
rent
control,
there's
no
rent
control
here
and
I
brought
it
up
on
council
one
time
before
now.
They
almost
kill
me
here
all
the
stairs
not
gonna
do
that.
I
brought
it
up
here
right
on
the
council,
because
there's
nothing
to
stop
anyone
from
building
what
they
want
to
build.
J
I
don't
know
where
that
came
from,
but
that's
the
terminology
to
be
using,
but
I
said
until
that
happened
that
we
can
find
money
or
find
money
to
subsidize
things.
We
have
to
put
something
in
place.
I
don't
give
nobody
I'll
give
no
one
an
open
door
policy.
I
don't
do
that.
I
never
did
that
in
my
life.
I
wouldn't
do
that
because
they
run
about
they
do
what
they
want
to
do.
It's
not
going
to
build
that
way,
you're
not
going
to
build
affordable
housing
on
their
own.
J
B
I
ask
the
visitors:
please
be
quiet,
while
council's
in
session,
please
thank
you.
Council
member
jackson
is
next.
I
Yes,
thank
you,
I'm
really,
I'm
glad
to
be
speaking
after
I'm.
Listening
to
my
colleagues,
I
this
this
feels
counterintuitive
to
me,
but
I
I
do
appreciate
the
reasoning
that
councilmember
appel
had
made
his
amendment,
and
I
also
agree
that
we
should
just
defer
tonight
and
go
back
to
really
figuring
out
the
criteria
and
the
values,
the
reasons
that
we're
trying
to
get
this
adu,
ordinance,
right
and
and
councilmember
mitchell.
You
started
out
giving
us
your.
I
You
know
very
compelling
reasons
for
why
you
didn't
think
you
could
support
the
removal
of
affordability.
But
you
were
talking
about
your
sister
and
other
people
that
we've
known
and
you've
known
a
lot
more
than
I
have
in
my
short
time
here.
But
I
remember
three
years
ago
and
we
were
listening
to
the
people
line
up
that
were
primary
house
owners
who
wanted
to
be
able
to
have
the
opportunity
to
rent
their
their
own
auxiliary
units
or
a
room
in
their
house
in
order
to
earn
income
to
stay
in
their
house.
I
And
that's
basically
what
you
were
just
telling
us
a
few
minutes
ago
that
if
we
allow
the
market
to
work
for
the
adu,
which
is
an
auxiliary
dwelling
unit.
By
definition,
it's
going
to
be
small.
It's
not
going
to
support
the
families
that
we
all
hope
and
pray
will
not
be
pushed
away
from
charleston
to
the
extent
that
they
have
been
over
and
over
and
over
again
in
the
last
20
years.
I
But
the
adu
as
a
housing
solution
for
the
people
that
we
care
about
the
most
being
rooted
and
committed
and
able
to
stay
in
their
community
and
and
make
it
affordable,
aren't
going
to
be
moving
into
a
new
over
a
garage
or
accessory
dwelling
unit.
It's
the
primary
homeowners
that
I
really
think
we
should
have
the
most
concern
and
the
most
heart
for
and
they're
the
people
that
would
have
the
opportunity,
especially
if
we
can
figure
out
how
to
significantly
subsidize.
I
I
So
that's
the
compelling
reason
for
me
that
we
should
let
the
market
work
on
the
adu
unit,
which
is
small
and
basically
we'll
be
seeing
the
turnover
I
mean
I
went
door
knocking
for
a
candidate
in
district
one
the
other
day
in
ansenburo,
and
I
had
a
list
that
was
generated.
You
know
a
year
ago,
two
years
ago
and
half
the
people
in
the
adus
of
of
the
houses
you
know
were
were
not
accurate.
So
that's
the
kind
of
turnover
you're
going
to
see
in
in
small
apartments.
I
This
is
a
college
town.
This
is
a
startup
career
for
younger
people.
Town
people
are
just
going
to
come
and
go
from
those
kinds
of
you
know
smaller,
very
accessible,
downtown,
great
locations,
for
you
know
younger
people
who
want
to
be
in
the
city.
The
people
that
want
to
live
and
afford
a
primary
home
are
the
ones
that
should
have
the
opportunity
to
use
that
kind
of
unit
as
an
additional
revenue
stream.
I
And
that's
really
my
point,
you
know
I
I
can't
I
can't
say
I've
been
in
housing
for
45
years,
but
I
had
a
career
that
took
me
from
the
late
90s
into
the
mid,
I
retired,
in
2015.
I
So,
whatever
many
years
that
was
20
years
in
hardcore
community
oriented,
affordable
housing
and
we
we
banged
our
head
against
brick
walls
all
around
the
northern
virginia
area-
and
I
know
this
is
the
last
meeting
I
have
to
talk
about
where
I
came
from,
but
it
is
very
much
a
model
of
what
is
happening
here:
the
growing
waves
of
wealth
and
income
earnings
and
people
that
are
trying
to
stay
put
in
neighborhoods
that
they
grew
up
in
or
want
to
pass
down
to
their
children
or
want
to
have
a
more
transit
oriented
lifestyle,
and
those
properties
are
just
exponentially
flying
off
the
charts
in
value
and
cost
and
taxes.
I
I
I
do
think
that
maybe,
if
it's
not
breaking
the
fair
housing
laws
that
we
could
figure
out,
how
to
how
to
give
people
who've
been
here,
a
certain
length
of
time
want
to
build
an
adu
the
opportunity
to
not
make
it
restricted,
and
maybe
you
know
the
same
way.
We
thought
about
the
short-term
rental
market
that
we
don't
want.
I
People
like
buying
up
houses
just
to
build
high
market
adus,
so
a
new
owner
might
not
be
able
to
have
his
unit
his
her
unit
offered
for
sale
or
rent
at
the
at
a
non-affordable
price.
I'm
sure
we
can
figure
that
out
in
some
legal
way
that
would
celebrate
the
people
who
are
here,
give
them
revenue
streams
and
not
allow
the
camel's
nose
under
the
tent
to
make
this
another
money-making
venture
for
moving
on
to
the
peninsula.
B
Thank
you.
We've
got
three
more
council
members,
but
if
I
may
just
interject
a
word
from
our
commercial
message,
no
miss
johnson
wanted
to
respond
to
a
couple
comments.
O
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
all
and
just
for
your
information.
When
we
looked
at
adus
across
the
country,
I
will
just
say
to
us:
they
come
out
of
the
gate
very
slow.
I
would
also
remind
you
that,
several
months
ago,
when
we
presented
this
idea,
we
approved
or
said
we
would
incentivize
the
first
10
or
so
residents
that
came
forward
with
a
completed
application
with
20
thousand
dollars
that
we
would
issue
at
ceo
once
the
adu
was
built,
and
so
you
all
supported
that
we
also
went
after
a
grant
from
aarp.
O
That
would
support
this.
We
were
not
successful
in
securing
that,
but
we
are
looking
at
other
opportunities
by
which
we
can
help
to
incentivize,
because
we
feel
like
it's
very
important.
We
are
asking
persons
who
are
who
are
not
your
traditional
developers
to
build,
and
so
we
have
even
had
an
rfp
to
bring
together
architects
so
that
we
can
have
plans
available
for
folks.
So
our
goal
was
is
to
build
and
bring
forth
a
full
package
for
these
individuals
who
decide
to
build
adus
again
as
a
way
to
incentivize.
O
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
I'll,
be
brief.
I've
been
around
here
long
enough
to
know,
and
I
sense
there's
probably
some
stomach
for
deferral
here
and
I
think
that's
the
right
thing
to
do.
I
I
got
to
tell
you:
I
mean
council,
member
appel
in
his
comments
is
right.
If
the
government
wants
to
partner
with
the
private
sector
to
incentivize,
affordable
housing
with
all
due
respect,
this
ordinance
will
not
do
that.
I
mean
you
heard
ms
shaw
johnson
just
say:
adu's
have
been
slow
out
of
the
block.
G
Well,
think
about
it
and
everyone's
focused
their
comments
on
the
peninsula.
You
go
to
someone
say:
okay,
great
we've
just
changed
our
zoning
code.
You
can
now
build
an
adu.
It's
got
to
be
affordable
as
we
define
it
attainable
affordable
for
30
years,
but
when
you
go
to
build
it,
the
contractor
the
suppliers,
the
materials
and
everything
else
you
go
to
build
are
at
120
or
50
of
what
they
would
be
today.
So
building
it
is
ridiculously
expensive.
G
You
can't
do
it
you're
going
to
have
to
then
go
out
there
and
pay
taxes
at
a
higher
rate.
If
you
want
to
go
and
depreciate
it,
so
the
incentive
just
isn't
there,
I
mean
the
idea
of
partnering
with
the
private
sector
to
allow
for
additional
square
footage
on
and
off
the
peninsula,
with
smaller
and
therefore,
naturally
per
square
foot.
More
affordable
housing
is
a
good
idea,
but
it's
only
here,
half
baked
it
needs
a
lot
more.
There
needs
to
be
true
incentive.
We
heard
something
about
the
first.
G
However,
many
people
applied
20
people
get
20
000
all
these
different
things,
that's
not
in
our
ordinance.
All
our
ordinance
basically
says
now
is,
if
you
want
to
build
an
adu,
it
used
to
be
in
perpetuity
now
it's
30
years
and
the
example
that
councilmember
mitchell
gave,
which
is
which
he
and
council
member
wearing
and
council
member
gregory
have
seen
day
in
and
day
out
through
the
course
of
their
lives,
and
that's
people
who
live
here,
generationally
not
being
able
to
afford
their
houses
is
a
real
problem.
It's
happening
every
day,
all
over
the
place.
G
This
ordinance
ain't
going
to
change
that.
If
we
want
to
change
that,
we
have
to
focus
on
the
bigger
property,
not
the
smaller
adu.
In
the
back,
no
one's
going
to
save
their
house
on
the
peninsula
by
building
a
rent-controlled
adu
in
the
back
at
full
cost
of
construction
without
having
some
other
incentive
to
do
it
and
keep
that
house.
We've
got
to
think
about
both
sides
right.
So
I
applaud
council
member
appel
for
bringing
this
up.
G
I
agree
with
council
member
warring-
and
I
may
may
make
these
same
comments
later
on
tonight-
that
changing
things
on
the
fly
never
builds
good
ordinances
ever
ever
doing
it
thoughtfully
always
does
and
then
we're
all
around
the
table
together.
So
let's
defer
this,
but
I
hope
you
all
around
here
recognize
that
this
in
front
of
us
needs
more.
G
If
those
out
here
in
the
world
who
are
in
the
private
sector,
who
either
own
properties
or
an
adu,
might
be
able
to
go,
we're
going
to
be
building
these
pre-approved
architecturally
designed
adus
have
to
have
some
incentive
to
actually
do
it
other
than
you
can
do
it
right.
It's
just
got
to
be
more
than
that,
because
in
the
end
density
is
what
helps
with
affordability.
Adus
have
nothing
to
do
with
density.
That's
a
whole!
G
This
is
a
whole
separate
conversation,
so
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
since
I've
sat
at
this
table
about
how
we
deal
with
adus
from
a
zoning
perspective
from
a
land
use
perspective,
all
the
bza
restrictions
on
lock
coverage,
all
there's
so
many
things
that
are
baked
into
this-
that
we
have
to
unfurl
to
make
sure
that
when
miss
shaw,
johnson
comes
up
in
front
of
us
after
we
pass
whatever
we
pass,
she
can
talk
about
the
number
of
applications.
G
She
actually
have
across
the
board
with
incentives
that
we
know
about
to
see
if
they're
working
or
not
so
I'm
going
to
vote
to
defer
it
I'll
I'll,
not
vote
for
it.
It
comes
back
in
in
this
form.
It
needs
to
be
a
better
form
and
we
all
need
to
work
together
to
do
it.
I
applaud
the
effort.
I
applaud
that
comments,
but
now,
let's
go
to
work
and
let's
not
do
things
on
the
floor,
all
right.
H
Had
a
lengthy
discussion
on
this
issue
and
I
think
we
both
agree
that
it
would
be
great
if
the
free
market
to
produce
what
we
want.
H
H
I
H
To
make
sure
that
what
we
do
will
in
fact
produce
affordability,
because
if
we
follow
your
theory
all
the
way,
then
let's
get
rid
of
the
united
states
department
of
housing
member
development,
let's
get
rid
of
I'm
just,
let's
get
rid
of
the
charleston
housing
authority.
H
So
I
will
support
the
deferral,
but
I'm
still
very
concerned
that
this
is
a
slippery
slope
folks,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
really
be
more
thoughtful
and
not
just
do
it
so
deferral,
yes,
and
it
may
come
back
with
still
some
restrictions.
H
K
We
talked
about
about
attainable
housing,
the
councilmember
awareness
point
when
we
were
having
our
employee
appreciation
breakfast
as
I
would
sit
with
our
employees
and
I'd,
do
a
very
quick
straw
poll
and
ask
the
men
and
women
sitting
around
the
table.
How
many
of
you
live
in
the
county
of
charleston?
K
K
This
is
probably
the
number
one
problem
facing
our
city
because
of
housing
that
includes
diverse
population
makes
up
the
core
of
a
community,
and
if
we
look
just
like
one
sector
of
our
culture
of
our
community,
we
become
a
one-dimensional
community
and
we
lose
the
the
richness
of
our
community
in
doing
that.
K
So
affordable
housing
needs
every
possible
tool
that
we
can
think
of
to
make
it
so
that
people
who
need
housing
can
attain
housing,
and
that
includes
every
sector
of
our
population,
every
sector
of
our
population
to
to
do
that
and
we're
heading
right
now
with
this
as
a
crisis,
when
we
first
took
office,
the
january
of
2016,
the
very
first
thing
we
were
wrapping
with
mayor
you-
and
I
were
the
two
newcomers
here-
was
tent
city
underneath
the
overpasses
and
it
was
a
disaster.
K
Whatever
was
going
on,
I
traveled
on
a
national
league
of
cities,
some
conference,
I
think
councilman
sheila-
was
with
me
councilmember
wagner.
Some
others
were
out
there
and
I
took
the
tours
of
watts
and
went
out
there
to
see
what
was
going
on,
and
I
will
tell
you
in
my
experience
in
being
out
in
los
angeles.
California
is
a
disaster
whatever
they're
doing
out
there.
We
don't
need
to
model
ourselves
after
because
it
is
an
absolute
disaster.
They
are
street
people
under
every
nook
and
cranny.
K
Every
intersection,
every
underpass
overpass,
ditch
anything
that
you
can
find.
There's
a
homeless
community
located
out
there
it's
everywhere.
It
is
a
plague
in
los
angeles,
it's
awful!
So
we're
we
are.
The
discussion
here
is
wonderful
but
we're
happy
as
we
are
addressing
attainable
housing.
We
need
to
look
at
it
from
a
top
to
bottom
issue,
because
it's
not
just
a
place
to
live.
K
But
you've
got
to
have
adequate
transportation
to
get
to
a
job,
to
get
to
a
doctor.
To
get
to
a
grocery
store,
and
so
we
talk
about
attainable
housing
you've
got
to
include
those
components
so
that
you
are
able
to
get
from
point
a
to
point
b.
Not
only
the
house
that
you're
living
in
but
have
access
to
a
grocery
store,
have
access
to
public
transportation.
K
This
is
this
is
a
good
discussion
to
have
with
all
of
us.
This
is
the
support.
Come
back.
Let's
tweak!
What
we
need
to
tweak
the
good
points
are
being
made
are
all
very
valuable
points
and
something
we
need
to
chew
on,
but
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
this
from
a
top-down
problem,
not
just
an
isolated
edition.
Thank.
B
You
all
right,
councilmember
seeking
you
ready
to
call
the
question
just.
G
And
I'm
assuming
that,
when
this
gets
deferred,
it'll
go
back
to
council
member
mitchell's
community
development
committee
and
one
of
the
things
I
forgot
is
whatever
we
come
up
with,
whatever
we
come
up
with
on
this
or
any
other
like
ordinance.
If
it's
transactionally
based
between
government
and
the
private
sector,
the
transaction
has
to
be
at
the
front
end
of
the
deal,
not
at
the
back
of
the
deal,
because,
like
disorders,
for
instance,
there's
all
sorts
of
restrictions
in
there
that
are
effectively
from
our
perspective.
G
As
a
government
unenforceable,
we
don't
have
the
man
and
woman
power
to
go
out
there
and
look
at
all
these,
no
subleases,
only
two
people,
all
these
things,
so
whatever
the
incentive
is
and
the
transaction
that
we
have
might
be
it's
simple
and
a
front-end
transaction.
If
you
do
this,
you
get
paid
on
the
front
end.
There's
some
incentives
on
the
tax
side,
but
to
make
it
a
30-year
policing
opportunity
for
the
city
will
not
ever
work
period.
It
won't
work.
K
G
I
would
respectfully
request,
mr
chairman,
that,
as
it
comes
to
your
committee,
you
keep
that
in
mind
as
you're
crafting
an
ordinance
to
make
sure
there's.
Affordability,
look
adus
are
such
a
small
portion
of
all
this,
but
that
doesn't
matter.
We
should
still
address
it
and
we
should
give
people
that
incentive
on
the
front
end,
but
please
don't
bake
it
on
the
back
end,
because
we'll
never
be
able
to
enforce
it
and
it
will
be
a
lost
opportunity.
So
all
right.
B
Thank
you.
I
do
want
to
remind
council
and
anybody
listening
if
you're
interested
there
are
no
restrictions
on
an
adu
built
for
family
use,
so
this
is
only
for
rental
properties,
but
if
you
own
a
home-
and
you
want
to
build
a
adu
for
for
your
mother-in-law
or
your
children,
you're
you're,
free
and
clear-
you
can
go
right
ahead.
You
could
not
do
that
in
city
charleston
until
we
passed
the
ordinance
a
year
or
so
ago.
So
all
in
favor
of
defer,
please
say:
aye
aye
close
the
eyes
have
it.
L
Yes,
sir
okay,
this
is
1830
savannah
highway
in
west
ashley,
it's
two
tenths
of
an
acre.
It
is
a
recent
annexation
and
the
recommended
zoning
is
limited
business
and
it
would
also
be
in
our
dupont,
wapu
overlay
zone.
It
was
in
the
dupont,
wapu
overlay
zone
in
charleston
county
there's
some
images
here.
It
is
in
our
neighborhood
edge,
designation
and
our
city
plan.
L
It
is
a
existing
office.
Building.
Here's
an
image
of
it
from
savannah
highway
planning
commission
did
recommend
approval
of
this
seven
to
zero.
B
Thank
you.
Would
anybody
like
to
be
heard
on
this
matter?
Okay,
none!
It
comes
to
a
council,
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion
by
the
way
this
the
owner
of
the
property
came
across
the
street.
This
is
right
across
the
street
from
our
new
fire
station
11
and
she
was
so
impressed
with
our
new
facility
there.
She
asked
me
about
it.
I
said
why
don't
you
annex
into
the
city
and
she
signed
right
up
so
keep
spreading
the
word
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
the
eyes.
B
Have
it
number
six,
mr
morgan,.
L
L
The
new
land
use
plan
does
call
for
low
impact
and
conserved
as
the
remainder
of
the
neighborhood
is,
but
the
parcels
that
have
already
come
into
the
city
in
this
already
developed
neighborhood
are
sr1.
So
that's
why
we
are
recommending
for
the
sr1.
This
is
not
a
site
that
would
have
further
development
on
it.
As
far
as
other
sr1
lots.
L
Okay,
the
next
one
is
on
james
island
volunteers,
2155,
watkins,
drive,
2
tenths
of
an
acre
recent
annexation.
It
was
r4
in
charleston
county
would
come
into
the
city
as
sr1.
You
see
the
property
here.
It's
surrounded
by
r4
in
the
county
across
the
street
is
sr1
in
the
city.
It
is
in
our
city
plan
as
suburban,
and
so
the
sr1
works
for
that
and
here's
an
image
of
the
property
and
planning
commission
recommended
7-0
for
approval
of
sr1.
B
L
Okay,
this
is
a
tracked
several
tracks
on
maybank
highway
on
john's
island.
It
totals
to
about
nine
acres.
It
is
just
west
of
sailfish
drive,
which
is
here.
Our
new
city
fire
station
will
be
over
here
at
wilt's
battery
right
here
it
is
to
the
east
of
the
live
oak
village.
That's
in
this
location
here
it
is.
L
This
will
be
a
request
as
far
as
coming
into
the
city
for
dr-12,
it
was
zoned,
limited
commercial
lc
in
the
mavic
highway
corridor
overlay
in
charleston
county,
the
images
of
the
property
show
in
our
city
plan.
It
is
in
our
neighborhood
edge
category.
L
The
rear
portion,
which
is
wetlands,
is
our
low-impact
and
conserved
natural
wetland
area
that
they
won't
be
developing
in
that
area.
L
L
They
would
do
one
of
our
connected
system
50-foot
corridors
here
at
the
rear
of
the
property.
This
is
maybank
highway
here.
On
this
location-
and
there
are
wetlands,
as
I
said
at
the
back
of
the
property-
this
still
will
have
to
go
obviously
through
our
trc
review
process
and
meet
all
our
stormwater
standards
and
all
our
traffic
and
all
other
city
codes.
N
N
C
And
mr
mayor,
we
did
receive
one
comment
online
or
I'm
sorry.
We
received
a
letter
from
the
johns
island
council
that
expressed
opposition
for
the
zoning.
They
said
the
area
would
be
better
developed
as
commercial
than
high
density
residential
with
consideration
of
current
massive
traffic
problems
due
to
rampant
residential
development
along
maybank
highway,
and
it
was
signed
by
11
members
and
those
were
all
the
comments
that
we
received.
B
B
B
L
Okay,
this
is
a
fort
lamar
road
on
james
island.
This
is
a
annexation
of
parcels.
It's
about
3.3
acres.
It
was
r4
in
charleston
county.
The
parcels
that
are
coming
in
will
be
recombined
with
some
of
the
sr1
parcels
that
are
already
in
the
city.
This
is
not
a
recombination
to
create
more
lots.
B
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Thank
you,
mr
morgan.
I
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
on
the
record.
I
I
think
he
repeated
it
at
some
point
in
time,
but
just
to
remind
people
that
this
you
said
it
was
a
reconfiguration,
not
a
plan
to
create
more
building
lots,
but
but
the
actual
homeowners
association
also
restricts
units
right,
so
there
will
not
be
any
units
created
as
a
result
of
this
reconfiguration.
B
L
It
is
immediately
adjacent
to
the
nelly
field
subdivision,
that's
mostly
in
berkeley
county
and
nearby
to
the
peninsula
subdivision,
that
is
in
the
city
of
charleston.
So
it
is
truly
a
doughnut
hole
in
this
location.
It
was
a
zoned
manufactured
residential
district
r2
in
berkeley
county.
The
request
in
the
city
would
be
gb
here.
It
is
in
our
new
city
plan.
It
is
the
bulk
of
the
property
is
in
our
city
center
area.
So
that
is
that
the
denser
and
more
intense
uses,
as
recommended
by
the
plan.
L
There
are
some
isolated
wetlands
here
that
give
rise
to
the
low
impact
and
conserve
and
and
natural
wetland
designation
in
the
plan.
But
the
the
development
would
be
going
on
on
the
highland
portions
of
the
site,
they're
kind
of
in
different
peninsulas
of
higher
land
here
because
of
the
old
dune
lines,
and
things
like
that.
But
the
actual
elevations
here
are
very,
very
good.
I
believe
they're
in
the
20-foot
range
and
higher
here
is
an
aerial
image
of
the
property.
M
This
is
why
I'm
here,
okay,
now
anthony
g
bryant,
you
you
made
a
you.
You
on.
You
actually
approved
the
minutes
in
berkeley
county
with
in
2017
in
2012.
We
came
for
the
berkeley
county
council
many
years
ago
and
I'm
submitting
this
from
the
irs
and
protested
in
public
safety
there.
We
want
to
ensure
that
people
are
not
racially
profiled
in
berkeley
county
and
also
the
the
the
info
development
will
probably
lead
to
some
redistricting
issues
and
probably
dilute
the
vote
and
take
some
potential
power
from
black
people.
M
But
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
get
this
information
to
ever
bcd
cog
with
you,
the
treasure
caldwell
pinckney,
the
letter
here
from
the
department
of
justice
there's
no
income
unprotected
class
there.
This
is
from
baltimore
ice.
I
lived
in
baltimore
for
many
years.
The
college
in
baltimore
had
a
great
time
in
baltimore
red
doctor,
amos
wilson,
joseph
and
jacquin,
and
and
francis
francis
press
wilson,
when
I
was
in
college
and
the
u.s
marshal's
office,
703-740-3943.
M
B
Gotta
wait
until
after
second
and
third
reading
of
the
annexation,
which
we'll
get
back
to
in
a
little
bit
so
that
closes
our
public
hearings
for
this
evening.
Next
up
is
our
approval
of
city
council
minutes
from
december
7th
any
deletions
additions,
corrections
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
next
up
is
our
citizen's
participation
period.
Thank
you
for
everybody's
patience.
B
While
we
work
through
those
public
hearing
matters,
I
know
everyone
noted
that
we
have
a
requirement
that
everyone
please
conduct
themselves
in
a
manner
appropriate
to
the
decorum
of
of
this
meeting
of
city
council
and
I
do
want
to
share.
We
have
a
number
of
people
signed
up
tonight.
We
normally
only
allow
of
30
minutes
and
we
have
almost
40
people
signed
up.
B
So
I
know
this
is
tight,
but
we're
going
to
cut
it
at
50
seconds
and
that'll,
give
you
a
chance,
go
ahead
and
give
your
name
and
address
and
go
ahead
and
tell
us
what
what's
on
your
mind,
we're
ready
to
listen
to
you,
and
I
I
did
note
that
a
number
of
people
are
here
to
make
comments
about
an
item.
B
That's
later
on
our
agenda
regarding
the
human
affairs
and
racial
conciliation,
commission,
I
do
want
to
point
out
to
everyone
that
there's
no
vote
being
taken
tonight
on
any
policy
matters
or
any
recommendations
that
have
been
made
by
either
the
special
commission.
That's
already
been
closed
out
or
any
future
work
of
this
commission
if
it
be
formed.
B
So
just
like
we've
set
up
in
the
past,
a
commission
on
women
or
commission
on
disabilities,
we're
just
setting
up
a
commission
tonight,
we're
not
taking
any
policy,
stands
or
or
proving
any
policies
related
to
this
issue.
I
just
want
to
share
that
with
you.
So,
madam
clerk,
will
you
please
ask
folks
to
come
up
one
at
a
time
and
please
give
us
your
name
and
address,
and
we
look
forward
to
hearing
from
you.
Thank
you.
B
Oh
welcome
our
new.
As
of
next
meeting
our
new
council
member
elect
from
james
island,
caroline
parker,
thank
you
for
being
with
us.
Sorry,
I
didn't
see.
A
Yes,
I
am
councilwoman
elect
caroline
parker
for
district
12.
I'll
be
sitting
here
in
january.
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
not
all
the
items
in
this
report
are
bad.
I've
met
with
multiple
city
departments,
already
who've
already
been,
or
have
begun
implementing
processes
that
will
help
continue
to
create
a
fair
and
diverse
environment.
A
Q
C
A
The
year
right
before
turnover,
I
just.
B
If
anybody
would
like
to
ask
the
other
people
here
tonight
assemble
if
they
want
to
agree
with
your
point
of
view,
you
can
ask
them
to
raise
their
hands,
but
we
don't
allow
any
outburst
during
the
public
participation
period
and
if
you
insist
on
doing
that,
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
leave.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
A
My
cousin
thomas
jefferson
penned
one
of
the
greatest
documents
of
all
time:
the
declaration
of
independence.
We
are
not
defined
by
our
skin
color.
What
our
circumstances
were
in
the
past,
what
they
are
now
what
they'll
be
in
the
future?
We
are
all
created
equal,
our
rights
have
been
our
unable.
Rights
have
been
endowed
to
us
by
the
creator,
so
we
need
to
start
speaking
to
one
another
in
that
capacity
and
bringing
forth
substance
and
depth
to
policies
that
would
foster
you
as
a
solution
you
as
a
social.
C
E
E
Making
sure
that
there's
a
level
playing
field
where
everybody
gets
their
chance
to
do
as
they
want
and
not
be
discriminated
against,
but
it's
not
for
the
commissions
to
kind
to
stir
up
problems
or
pit
us
against
each
other.
We
are
all
created
equal.
We
need
to
treat
each
other
that
way
and
this
in
the
early
prayer
that
you
had
on
the
other
meeting.
We
talked
about
learning
to
get
along.
D
Crt
is
not
a
positive
educational
program;
it
indoctrinates
malleable
minds
with
opinions
that
are
not
necessarily
founded
on
truth
and
are
potentially
harmful
and
hateful
children.
In
many
cases,
adults
need
to
learn
and
assimilate
solid
facts.
They
need
to
learn
analytical
thinking
and
critical,
critical
discernment,
which
will
endure
them
with
the
ability
to
take
opinions
and
discern
for
themselves.
What
is
true
right
and
profound
ciat
is
based
on
emotions
and
feelings.
It
dumbs
down
education.
D
What
is
needed
are
skills
based
on
socratic
teaching,
which
is
thought
for
dialogue
and
debate.
Crt
will
create
an
undereducated
class
without
skills
for
a
competitive
workforce.
Ours
may
become
the
first
civilization
destroyed,
not
by
the
power
of
ironies,
but
by
the
ignorance
of
our
teachers
and
the
dangerous
nonsense.
They
are
teaching
to
our
children
in
an
age
of
artificial
intelligence.
They
are
teaching.
D
And
beecham
from
charleston,
I
would
like
to
ask
that
this
be
passed
out.
When
I
finish,
do
you
like
being
lied
to
well?
I
would
like
to
tell
you
that
you
have
been
lied
to
what
I
have,
in
my
hand,
is
an
indictment
where
the
the
that's
going
to
be
delivered
to
the
attorneys
general
all
over
the
country.
D
The
defendants
are
anthony,
fauci,
the
fda,
the
cdc
dr
ralph
ballona.
I
can't
read
it.
I
can't
read
this
fast:
they
are
charged
with
domestic
terrorism,
they're
charged
with
funding
and
creating
a
bile
weapon
which
is
commonly
called
the
covet
vaccine,
they're
called
they're
being
charged
with
criminal,
commercial
activity
and
every
single
thing
that
you've
had.
C
A
M
You
need
to
read
no
state
of
virginia
by
thomas
jefferson,
deep
within
prejudice
entertained
by
whites,
ten
thousand
recollections
by
black's
injury,
sustained
new
problems
with
distinction.
Nature
is
made
and
many
other
circumstances
will
divide
and
apply
to
reduce
composure
that
will
never
end
service
from
one
of
the
other
race.
Jefferson
wrote
that
1781.
M
the
led
to
the
rules,
the
red,
the
fellows
paper,
64
versus
10.
Remember
that
you
and
city
of
charleston,
not
someplace
else.
What
I
want
to
say
to
the
human.
The
homeland
security
is
a
public
hearing
on
title
15
criminal
street
gangs
and
showing
that
people
are
not
are
not.
Coordination
and
information
collection
are
not
placed
on
young
people
in
our
community,
leading
to
state
and
local
law
enforcement
without
political
police
practices,
excessive
force
and
a
cause
of
action.
We
want
a
public
hearing
with
homeland
security
in
our
neighborhood.
A
I'm
against
your
equity
and
inclusion
panel.
This
is
actually
critical
race
theory
and
it
has
its
roots
in
the
prophet
karl
marx.
A
E
Now
year
and
a
half-
and
you
guys
have
done
a
hell
of
a
job
destroying
this
city.
Okay,
I
mean
it's
ridiculous.
The
stuff
I'm
seeing
happen.
I
even
hate
to
work
downtown
anymore.
It's
gotten
out
of
control.
I
mean
you
guys
pass
the
budget,
20
million
shortfall,
you
give
yourself
a
raise,
and
then
you
raise
everybody's
taxes.
N
N
Of
the
bid
that
will
be
on
the
agenda
later,
there's
been
some
discussion
about
kind
of
the
lack
of
connectedness
to
business
owners.
I
want
you
to
know
that
we
personally
reach
doubts
in
a
white
paper
with
all
the
details
of
the
bid
to
every
registered
owner
of
property
on
king
between
line
and
broad
we've
got
over.
62
percent
of
verbal
commitments
from
those
property
owners
and
56
percent
have
signed
a
statement
of
support,
asking
you
to
add
a
fee
on
top
of
their
taxes,
so
that
they
can
improve
the
experience
on
king
street.
N
D
Hi
good
evening,
brett
berry
west
ashley.
This
body
rejected
the
report
of
the
commission
on
racial
conciliation
in
august
and
ended
the
commission
in
september.
Now,
three
days
before
christmas
council
is
considered.
Considering
resurrecting
the
commission,
this
commission
quoted
in
their
report
alicia
garza,
a
self-availed
marxist
and
supporter
of
cop
killer,
joanne
chesimard.
D
The
premise
of
the
commission
is
that
everyone
from
our
police
to
the
citizens
of
charleston
are
inherently
and
structurally
racist.
The
ordinance
cannot
be
modified
to
correct
this
hateful
error,
fix
flooding
and
stop
this
foolishness
as
a
recently
new
father.
Again,
I
have
two
little
girls.
Now
I
want
everybody
to
have
opportunity.
I
want
everybody
to
have
safety
and
security
in
this
world.
D
D
D
I
realize
it's
not
being
voted
on
this
evening,
but
I
asked
the
council
to
stick
to
your
conviction
and
maintain
the
the
vote
that
you
had
before
on
eliminating
this
commission,
because
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
things
that
have
been
said
already
tonight,
and
that
is
that
we
are
attempting
to
try
to
divide
this
wonderful
city.
Charleston's
been
voted
again
and
again
and
again,
the
most
friendly
city
in
the
in
the
war
in
the
united
states,
and
we
don't
want
that
to
change.
D
Mr
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
my
name
is
michael
cogan.
I
live
at
one
king
street,
the
commission
on
equity,
inclusivism
and
racial
reconciliation
is
not
about
inclusivism
and
fairness.
It
is
a
commission
on
vengeance
and
racial
division.
It
sees
every
issue
through
the
narrow
lens
of
race
and
alleged
racism
as
part
of
city
government.
It
would
divide
charlestonians
between
the
oppressed
and
the
oppressors
fixated
on
a
dead
past,
rather
than
the
urgent
living
presence
and
future
that
this
city
must
fix
on,
must
be
concerned
with.
N
N
I've
been
to
a
few
of
these
meetings,
and
I
know
you
guys:
don't
do
it
for
the
glory
or
the
pay
you
do
it
because
you're
servant
leaders
and
you
have
a
heart
for
service
in
2017
after
the
mother
emanuel
tragedy,
this
city
showed
the
country
what
it
meant
to
respond
in
a
way
that
was
gracefully
after
the
george
floyd
tragedy.
N
We
did
the
opposite.
This
commission
on
racial
and
equity
inclusion
was
a
knee-jerk
reaction
to
satisfy
the
mob.
It's
not
doing
anybody
any
good.
You
guys
have
heard
about
it.
It's
going
to
do
nothing
but
divide
this
community.
N
N
Cal
stevens
wimbledon
drive,
ladies
and
gentlemen
of
council.
I
encourage
you
to
continue
to
vote
no
to
the
special
commission.
Thank
you.
A
Dog
in
this
fight,
but
I
have
two
young
children
and
I
came
to
another
council
meeting
and
someone
said
something
about
white
people
and
I
got
in
the
car
with
my
children
and
they
go.
What
are
white
people
and
I
was.
I
A
A
A
Yes,
I'm
elizabeth
watkins.
I
live
on
queen
street
in
charleston
and
I'm
here
against
critical
race
theory.
I
grew
up
in
a
in
a
city,
very
poor
city,
in
louisiana
in
the
60s
and
70s
during
the
integration
of
the
public
school
system,
the
forced
busing
from
a
very
young
child
in
elementary
school.
I
have
been
made
to
feel
guilty
for
something
that
I
have
no
idea
what
I
what
I
did
even
as
a
young
child,
I
have
suffered
emotional
scars
from
hate
that
was
taught
at
that
time.
That
was
50
years
ago.
A
D
Thank
you
all
very
much.
I
will
try
and
say
a
few
things
I
had
not
enough
time
here
to
get
it
all
in,
but
I
understand
there
is
to
be
a
vote
coming
up
on
moving
the
statue
of
john
c
calhoun
out
to
california
for
show
and
tell
I'm
not
sure
how
we
put
that
in
into
sync.
But
anyway,
john
c
needs
to
stay
here.
He
is
our
man
he's
a
south
carolinian.
He
was
probably-
and
I
think
truthfully
he
was
probably
unknown.
D
I
mean
he
was
the
individual
who
was
most
maligned
in
the
history
of
this
country.
He
was
not
a
a
secessionist,
he
was
a
nationalist
and
he
was
quoted
on
saying
that
he
did
not
have
anything
to
do
with
the
wars
between
the
states.
It
happened
10
years
after
he
died.
John
c
is
ours.
He
is
not
the
day's
darth
vader.
N
There's
less
real
racism
in
society
than
ever
before.
Racist
attitudes
have
plummeted
into
historic
lows.
The
number
of
newlyweds
and
an
interracial
marriage
increased
by
567
percent
between
1967
and
2015..
Black
economic
and
educational
attainment
have
increased
dramatically.
Despite
manifest
progress
in
every
front.
Crt
analysts
teach
that
racism
is
worse
today
than
50
years
ago,
because
disparities
between
racial
categories
have
not
been
fully
eradicated.
N
This
ignores
personal
choice,
moral
agency
and
the
importance
of
the
decisions
we
make
to
guide
our
own
destiny
in
1950,
83
of
black
families
had
a
father
present
by
2015,
the
black
illegitimacy
rate
had
risen
to
almost
80
percent.
Barack
obama
said
children
who
grew
up
without
a
father
are
five
times
more
likely
to
live
in.
N
E
E
N
F
A
A
It
seems
that
certain
individuals
want
to
give
priority
to
people
based
on
skin
color
or
sexual
preference
rather
than
merit.
This
is
contrary
to
great
martin
luther
king's
dream,
and
it
is
absolutely
disgusting
and
frightening
to
me.
Like
most
americans,
I
was
born
and
raised
colorblind
and
to
prioritize
skin
color
or
personal
sexual
preferences.
Over
character
is
backwards.
Racist
and
illogical,
and
I
do
not
want
my
taxpayer
money
spent
on
this.
Q
N
N
N
A
Hello,
my
name
is
marcus
mcdonald,
I'm
the
lead,
organizer
of
trusted
black
lives
matter,
I'm
also
a
substitute
teacher
at
burke,
high
school
and
I'm
on
the
board
of
eastside
community
development
center.
So
I
just
want
to
come
here
and
say:
first
off
a
lot
of
y'all,
don't
know
mlk,
so
please
stop
using
his
name
in
vain,
bernice
king,
her
daughter,
his
daughter,
said
the
exact
same
thing.
Please
stop
using
mlk's
name
in
vain
because
he
would
not
supported
all
these
people
speaking
against
racial
equity.
A
He
would
have
been
right
behind
me
supporting
me
and
pushing
forward
for
this
commission
equity.
So
that's
one
question
for
today:
I'm
in
full
support
of
the
reintroduction
of
the
commission
on
equity,
inclusion,
reconciliation,
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
and
talked
with
a
lot
of
folks
to
make
get
this
far.
We
need
to
push
it
fully
forward
and
really
do
something
to
empower
the
black
community
in
the
city.
That's
often
been
ignored
throughout
this
years,
we've
seen
so
many
examples
of
the
disparities
in
the
system.
I
know
a
lot
of
the
older
folks
here.
C
E
Hi
this
is
this
is
joel
father
calling
in.
Can
you
hear
me.
C
E
Excellent
yeah,
so
I'm
joel
sadler,
downtown
resident,
brick
and
mortar
business
owner
just
submitting
comment
on
two
topics
on
the
agenda.
The
first
one
is
in
support
of
the
commission
on
race
and
equity.
I
definitely
can
feel
for
council
with
a
number
of
people
that
have
attached
to
some
of
the
more
politically
volatile
terms
in
it,
but
most
of
it
is
so
boring
and
practical.
You
would
think
they
were
already
happening.
E
Please
don't
throw
the
baby
out
with
the
bathwater
just
keep
moving
forward
and
work
with
the
co-chairs
to
develop
something
that
I
think
we
all
actually
want
for.
Charleston.
Second,
is
just
opposition
to
the
king
street
business
improvement
district.
I
think
that
you're
going
to
be
hearing
a
lot
more
in
the
next
several
days
about
all
of
the
negative
impacts
that
it
will
be
having
on
charleston.
I
don't
really
have
the
time
to
go
into
all
of
them
now.
E
Hey,
thank
you.
Sorry.
I'm
calling
in
I
am
in
full
support
of
the
commission
on
racial
equity.
It's
something
the
city
has
needed
for
quite
some
time
and
we're.
Yes,
we
are
only
together
which
will
help
everyone
be
on
the
same
page,
create
equity
education
for
everyone,
and
it's
time
we
support
our
black
community
more
than
ever,
I'm
also
in
complete
opposition
of
the
bid.
E
It
looks
to
me
like
a
fresh
pack
of
xerox,
paper
white,
really
white
void
of
any
ideas
or
substance,
and
if
king
street
is
so
great,
then
why
are
you
more
than
50
of
the
businesses
that
need
to
improve
part
of
the
board
of
that
it
should
look
more
like
young
entrepreneurs
and
other
people
in
the
community.
Thank
you.
O
Hello,
I
think
I
signed
up
to
do
online,
but
here
I
am,
I
had
a
whole
thing
written
out
for
you
guys,
but
after
hearing
so
many
people
speak
against
the
commission,
I
feel
like
it's
speaks
volumes
to
how
important
it
is
to
implement
this
commission
on
how
much
disinformation
and
how
much
opposition
to
this
there
is
for
seemingly
no
reason
and
people
are
clearly
misinformed
on
what
this
actually
is,
whether
they
have
not
read
it
in
its
full
degree
or
whether
they
have
just
taken
pieces
out
that
fit
their
individual
agendas,
and
I
feel
like
it
is
so
important.
O
B
E
B
E
E
E
E
Calling
to
express
my
full
support
on
the
creation
of
a
permanent
commission
on
equity,
as
well
as
approval
of
an
amended
hospitality
fee
budget
for
2022
to
refund
the
international
to
to
fund
the
international
african-american
museum.
To
put
it
bluntly,
charleston
owes
its
history
and
prosperity
to
its
black
communities
both
past
and
present.
This
city,
whether
purposefully
or
as
an
unexamined
byproduct
of
its
structures
continues
to
operate
on
systems
of
oppression
via
gentrification
and
equal
access
to
education
and
housing
and
the
over-policing
of
black
and
brown
bodies.
E
E
Q
E
Love
the
name
but
having
read
the
report,
there
are
just
too
many
things
in
there
that
are
proposals
that
are
highly
divisive,
unrealistic
and,
frankly,
punitive
to
white
residents.
I
don't
see
this
ending
well,
maybe
you
can
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
try
to
just
get
some
of
the
better
proposals
that
aren't
so
divisive
and
work
with
those.
Thank
you.
E
E
Charleston
was
built
on
the
backs
of
black
slaves
that
were
forcibly
brought
to
this
country
and
the
racist
history
that
has
been
created
then,
is
still
present
now
in
charleston
and
in
loss
of
the
country,
and
I
think
it's
time
that
if
we
want
charleston
to
continue
to
be
the
best
city
in
america
that
we
need
to
prioritize
our
black
and
brown
citizens
and
make
sure
that
they
have
a
place
of
equality
and
access
to
everything
else
that
our
the
white
citizens
are
our
privilege
to.
E
I
I
P
Good
evening,
council,
members
and
mayor,
as
you
know,
I
served
on
the
commission,
we
worked
hard
to
come
up
with
a
set
of
recommendations
for
consideration
for
discussion
about
how
the
city
of
charleston
could
truly
reconcile
its
history
as
well
as
this
past.
As
you
talked
about
affordable
housing
today,
as
we
talk
about
health
disparities,
all
these
things
are
real
and
people
from
african
descent,
as
well
as
people
non-african
descent,
have.
M
E
A
Q
Good
evening,
thank
you
all
for
your
service.
My
name
is
mimi
wood,
I'm
from
isle
of
palms,
I'm
here
to
say
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
commission
necessarily,
but
I
am
opposed.
A
Q
A
Was
not
exhibited
at
the
christmas
parade,
charleston
is
unity
and
charleston
is
mutual
respect
and
crt
is
not.
Crt
is
divisive,
it
teaches
hate
and
it
is
regressive,
in
my
opinion,
as
far
as
james
calhoun
should
he
be
looming
over
the
city,
probably
not,
but
in
the
words
of
bishop
bullwinkle
should
he
go
to
california.
C
And
those
are
all
of
the
speakers
that
we
had
signed
up.
We
did
receive
some
comments
online.
We
had
20
people
who
were
opposed
to
the
creation
of
the
king
street
bid
and
asked
council
to
not
support
it
without
giving
business
owners
and
the
community
time
to
familiarize
themselves
with
the
aspects
of
the
plan.
E
C
Whalen,
instead
of
local
homegrown
businesses,
they
also
support
the
creation
of
the
commission
on
racial
equity
commission
on
racial
inequity
to
inform
the
wedding
and
tourism
industries
of
the
real
historical
impact
of
african
americans
and
charleston.
C
C
Two
people
said
to
please
vote
against
king
street
development
to
preserve
the
charm
of
king
street
and
allow
restaurants
to
continue
outdoor
dining
17.
People
supported
the
commission
on
equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation
as
a
permanent
commission
in
the
city
and
a
priority
in
the
community,
and
we
also
received
a
letter
from
the
association
for
the
study
of
african
american
life
and
history,
which
stated
that
african
americans
have
significantly
impacted
the
social,
political
and
economic
structures
of
the
u.s
and
the
world.
C
The
charleston
area
branch
of
the
asa
lah
denounced
the
recent
and
transparent
rejection
by
the
city
council
of
the
special
commission
on
equity,
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation
report
result
of
the
report's
acceptance.
The
city
council
rejected
10
months
of
research,
inquiry,
re-examination,
critical
thinking
and
hard
work
by
almost
50
of
charleston's,
rapidly
declining
number
of
black
residents.
B
B
The
next
on
our
agenda
is
an
update
on
the
city's
response
to
coba
19
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
right
over
to
tracy
mckee.
I
know
you've
all
been
following
a
lot
of
recent
news
about
surge
and
omicron
cases
across
the
country
in
the
world,
but
I
think
tracy
is
just
going
to
drill
down
and
give
us
some
local
information.
Tracy.
Q
So
there's
been
eight
hundred
thousand
americans
that
have
now
died
from
coronavirus.
The
last
hundred
thousand
have
occurred
in
the
past
eleven
weeks,
which
is
twelve
and
a
half
percent,
and
we
are
running
about
the
same
in
south
carolina
as
well.
Q
In
the
u.s
over
the
past
14
days,
there's
been
a
20
increase
in
cases,
and
this
is
of
the
seven
day
average
in
south
carolina.
That's
been
11
percent
in
charleston
county,
the
rolling
seven
day
average
over
the
past
three
weeks
has
gone
up.
89
percent
and
in
berkeley
county
we're
up
260
percent.
Over
the
past
three
weeks,
cdc
still
has
both
charleston
and
berkeley
counties
listed
as
substantial
transmission.
Q
So
a
little
bit
about
the
omicron
variant,
there's
been
a
lot
of
information
swirling
around
lately,
so
south
african
modelers
estimate
that
omicron
is
2.4
times
more
transmissible,
transmissible
than
delta
and
data
coming
out
of
south
africa
also
suggests
that
it
might
be
29
less
severe.
So
that's
really
good
news,
and
hopefully
that
we'll
will
continue.
Q
If
omicron
continues
to
show
that
it's
less
severe,
that
means
there's
a
less
severe
risk
to
most
vaccinated
individuals
and
that
lower
severity
could
reduce
the
burden
that
we
would
see
on
our
hospital
systems.
But
they
are
very
concerned
just
about
that
level
of
transmission,
and
so
many
people
getting
sick
at
one
time.
Q
However,
the
unvaccinated
are
at
very
high
risk
from
both
delta
and
omicron.
In
south
africa,
pfizer
vaccine
has
been
80
percent
effective
against
infection
from
delta,
but
only
30
percent,
effective
against
omicron
and
93
effective
in
preventing
hospitalization
from
delta,
and
that's
been
reduced
to
70
percent
from
omicron,
but
some
good
news
here
so
that
boosters
significantly
amplify
that
protection.
Q
So
lab
studies
show
that
a
booster
raises
the
efficacy
to
80
percent
for
omicron
compared
to
30
for
those
that
are
just
vaccinated
and
not
boosted
and
we're
seeing
similar
data
come
out
of
the
uk
right
now
as
well
that
the
pfizer
booster
is
75.
76
percent
effective
against
the
micron,
so
16
of
residents
have
received
a
booster
and
only
30
percent
that
are
fully
vaccinated,
have
received
a
booster.
So
potentially
a
lot
of
south
carolina.
South
carolinians
are
at
risk.
Q
So
booster
shot
eligibility
from
the
cdc
people
that
are
16
and
up
who
receive
pfizer
are
eligible
after
six
months
of
completing
their
first
series,
for
if
they
receive
moderna
individuals
that
are
18
and
over
are
eligible
for
a
booster
people
who
are
18
and
over
who
received
a
single
dose
of
the
jansen
or
j
and
j
are
eligible
for
a
second
shot.
Two
months
after
their
first
shot.
Q
Consider
hosting
and
attending
events
that
are
out
outdoors
instead
of
inside
if
you're
not
fully
vaccinated,
get
tested
with
a
viral
test,
one
to
three
days
before
your
trip,
or
you
expose
yourself
to
your
family
members
and
just
listing
here
a
couple
of
resources
for
covid
testing,
as
well
as
the
south
carolina
carolina,
vax
locator,
which
you
can
use
to
find
and
get
a
vaccine
or
booster,
and
I'm
happy
to
try
to
answer
any
questions.
Anyone
has.
B
Any
questions
for
tracy,
so
this
is
just
for
information
purposes.
Tonight
we
don't
have
any
action
items.
I
will
just
also
share
that
the
clinic
the
vaccination
clinic
that
we
share
with
musc
at
180
lockwood
is
open
six
days
a
week
monday
through
friday,
it's
open
from
seven
in
the
morning,
till
seven
at
night
and
on
saturdays
from
seven
in
the
morning
till
four
in
the
afternoon.
B
You
don't
need
an
appointment,
there's
no
charge
the
price
is
right,
and
so
whether
you
need
vaccination
from
the
start
or
booster,
you
can
go
down
to
the
police
station.
We
won't
arrest,
you
just
go
to
the
clinic
there
and
get
a
free,
booster
or
vaccine.
So
I
got
my
booster
the
other
day
and
I'm
ready
for
omicron
council
member
seeking.
B
We've
really
had
a
lot
of
vaccinations
and
that
didn't
include
the
clinics
that
we
did
on
the
outside,
so
we're
real
thankful
to
musc
for
our
partnership
with
them
and
they're
still
doing
business.
It's
still
going
strong.
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
you
said,
and
we
all
know
we're
not
taking
any
action
or
anything
tonight,
but
could
you
just
remind
us
how
much
longer
the
current
emergency
ordinance
is,
in
effect.
B
For
meetings
we
passed
at
our
last
meeting
for
60
more
days
and
I
I
could
be
wrong,
but
I
think
that's
the
only
emergency
ordinances
that
we
have
in
place.
One
for
city
council,
which
is
allowing
council
member
brady
to
join
us
remotely
tonight,
but
also
our
zoning
boards
and
bar
and
so
forth.
They're
still
allowed
to
meet
remotely
for
another
45
days
and.
I
B
Well,
all
I
can
say
is
we're
watching
the
numbers
every
single
day
and
then
constant
contact
with
broker
saint
francis
and
musc
and
d
heck,
and
I
think,
everybody's
in
a
very
careful
watch,
move
we're
nervous
because
of
people
getting
together
over
the
holidays.
We've
seen
that
before.
So
we
urge
everyone
to
be
safe
and
healthy
and
careful.
I
Yeah,
I
was
asking
more
about
the
process,
so
if,
if
it
came
to
be
that
you
know
sometime
later
in
january,
whenever
the
statistics
you
know
were
were
proving
that
we
needed
to
take
other
kinds
of
emergency
measures,
would
that
same
document
then
just
be
added
on
to?
Or
would
you
start
over
again
with
the
new
emergency
ordinance?
B
Think
how
that
came,
those
two
just
applied
to
our
meetings,
so
we
have
some
earlier
ordinances
that
are
not
active
right
now
that
we
could
go
back
to
if
need
to,
and
the
city
has
a
phase
four
protocol.
We
finally
came
out
again
to
the
least
restrictive
protocol
phase.
Four,
and
you
know
we're
gonna
watch
the
numbers
we
may
have
to
start
going
back
to
phase
three
or
two
again,
depending
on
what
happens.
B
Thank
you
all
right.
Well,
thank
y'all.
Next
up
is
our
committee
reports.
First
up
is
back
to
councilmember
jackson.
Our
committee
on
human
resources.
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Let
me
just
find
my
note
here.
A
I
Yes,
yes,
we
had
a
meeting
of
the
committee
on
human
resources
of
the
council
committee
of
the
council
on
human
resources
met
thursday
december
9th
at
3
30.
In
the
afternoon
we
had
a
quorum
present
and
also
we
were
grateful
to
have
a
few
of
the
human
resources
staff
members
and
it
was
at,
I
want
to
say,
a
big
sacrifice
of
their
own
time
and
leave
schedule,
as
we
were
just
talking
in
the
whole
pandemic.
I
So
several
of
the
staff
people
that
would
normally
have
been
with
us
at
the
human
resources
committee
meeting
you
know-
had
had
delayed
their
long,
valued
leave,
and
so
we
were
glad
to
have
a
couple
of
them
give
us
some
of
their
leave
tom
back
that
afternoon.
The
purpose
of
the
meeting
was
for
the
committee
to
listen
to
a
presentation
by
ms
amber
johnson,
our
manager
of
equity,
inclusion
for
the
city,
and
she
reviewed
the
most.
I
I
guess
summarized
and
reviewed
the
most
prioritized
set
of
recommendations
that
were
created
by
the
internal
review
subcommittee
of
the
special
commission
over
the
last
year,
and
then
ms
johnson
worked
with
the
subcommittee
chair
and
a
couple
of
their
members
to
agree
that
there
were
two
or
three
things
that
they
wanted
to
put
on
the
radar
of
the
human
resources
committee
on
council
committee
for
work
next
year.
I
So,
basically,
I
think
they
fell
into
sort
of
three
buckets
that
would
naturally
fall
under
the
human
resources
work
with
our
department,
heads
and
all
of
the
hiring
managers
that
we
have.
I
think
we
could
just
think
about
it
to
think
about
our
recruiting
practices.
I
Our
promotion
and
advancement
from
inside
as
people
are
in
jobs
and
giving
them
every
opportunity
to
be
trained
and
promoted,
and
then
our
overall
training
of
the
whole
staff
in
general.
As
we
move
into
an
era
of
wanting
to
be,
you
know
more
in
an
aspect
of
understanding.
One
another
we're
going
to
have
some
sort
of
of
training
that
I
understand
is
going
to
be
available
to
the
entire
set
of
city
staff.
However,
that
rolls
out
in
the
future,
and
so
we
wanted
to
entertain
what
that
could
potentially
look
like
without
making
any
decisions.
I
N
N
Chatter,
the
last
few
weeks
that
in
the
last
couple
of
human
resources
committee
meetings,
there's
been
some
talk
of
having
some
sort
of
test
for
our
city,
employees
and
our
applicants
to
take
to
prove
whether
or
not
they
have
racist
thoughts.
I
Well,
we've
only
had
one
human
resources
committee
media
that
talked
about
anything
resulting
from
the
work
of
the
commission,
so
it
was
only
this
meeting.
I'm
reporting
on
right
now
on
december
9th
and
basically,
if
you
drill
down
into
that,
I
haven't
ever
counted
how
many
recommendations
the
internal
review
subcommittee
came
up
with
that.
That
is
one
that
people
would
be
given
the
opportunity
to
understand
their
own
place
in
the
spectrum
of
understanding.
I
You
know
what
they,
what
they
know
about
themselves
in
relationship
to
working
in
a
community
like
ours
that
values,
diversity
and
inclusion.
So
no
decisions
have
been
made
about
any
of
that.
I
think
that
is
in
my
understanding,
councilmember
griffin,
probably
one
of
the
most
sad
and
and
potentially
frustrating
takeaways
from
people
that
worked
very
hard
on
the
work
of
the
special
commission
to
think
that
people
in
the
general
public,
based
on
a
few
reports
in
the
media
and,
however
else
news
like
that,
goes
around
that.
I
So
many
decisions
are,
you
know
have
been
made
when
in
fact,
we
haven't
even
begun
to
really
study
anything
in
in
depth,
so
that
I
don't
even
know
if
that,
if
that's
the
actual
way
I'll,
be
happy
to
ask
ms
johnson
to
get
into
the
internal
review
set
of
recommendations
and
circulate
that.
So
you
can
read
that
for
yourself.
N
Want
to
say
that
over
these
last
four
years,
I've
gotten
to
know
a
lot
of
our
city,
employees
and
I'm
proud
of
the
diversity
that
we
have
at
the
city.
Really,
I
am
from
all
of
our
different
departments.
I
have
never
had
an
interaction
with
any
member
of
our
staff
on
any
level
where
I
felt
like
there
were.
N
There
were
an
inertly,
racist
or
anything
of
that
sort,
and
I
think
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
should
realize
that
we
are
very
lucky
to
have
such
a
diverse
staff
that
we
have
and
we
should
promote
from
within,
because
we
have
great
people,
regardless
of
skin
color,
that
work
their
tails
off.
On
our
behalf,
every
single
day
I
mean
I'd
love
to
see
the
all
of
those
people,
especially
in
the
public
services,
division,
work
their
way
up
and
and
manage
the
city
one
day,
because
they
do
an
amazing
job.
Thank
you.
I
If
I
may
miss,
may
I
I
would
totally
agree
with
you
councilman
woodgriff
and
I
and
I
think,
the
promotion
and
advancement
and
giving
people
that
are
already
valued
employees
of
the
city
every
opportunity
to
continue
to
grow
their
own
career
and
their
own
personal
successes.
I
think
that
is
one
of
the
overall
categories
of
recommendations
that
resonated
with
all
of
us,
so
I
don't
think
there
will
be
any
disagreement
on
making
something
like
that:
a
big
priority.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
Great
any
other
questions
or
comments
on
on
the
hr
report.
Thank
you,
councilman
jackson,
for
your
service.
As
a
chair
of
that
committee,
appreciate
it.
Yes,
sir.
Thank
you
next
up
is
our
committee
on
public
safety
councilmember
shade
thank.
J
B
H
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
chairmanship
knew
that
we've
been
working
on
attempting
to
amend
the
noise
ordinance,
but
how
long
the
last
12
years.
So
good
luck.
B
We
are
going
to
work
we're
going
to
come
we're
going
to.
We
have
a
new
commitment
from
legal
and
planning
first
part
of
next
year
to
work
on
that
bring
us
back
some
okay.
Next
up
is
our
committee
on
works,
public
works
and
utilities
council,
member
griffin
was
sitting
in
as
chair.
N
N
And
I
would
move
that
we
approve
both
of
those
items.
N
Our
public
service
department
update,
we
had
one
item
that
was
in
regards
to
a
non-standard
service
district
agreement
with
dominion,
energy,
and
that
was
also
unanimously
approved,
and
I
would
move
that.
We
approve
that.
N
You
and
item
c
storm
water
management
update.
We
talked
about
the
small
projects
that
were
completed
in
the
fourth
quarter.
It's
approximately
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
projects
all
over
the
city
of
charleston
and
also
talked
about
a
project
in
district
10
that,
hopefully,
will
make
it
on
to
the
small
project
allocation,
2022
and
item
c.
There
was
for
information
holding
so.
B
Thank
you
great
and,
if
I
may
just
add
the
report
on
those
recently
completed,
small
projects
was
very
encouraging.
You
know
when
we
have
projects-
and
you
know,
unlike
some
of
these
things,
we
do
with
10
and
20
and
50
million
dollars.
It
could
be
50
or
30
000
or
100
000,
and
they
really
make
a
difference
to
those
neighborhoods
where
those
projects
are
completed.
So
we
we
have
a
real
commitment
to
continue
that
work.
A
N
B
J
B
Okay,
one
through
four
any
discussion
on
any
of
those
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye,
aye
aye,
the
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
now
for
third
reading
and
ratification
of
one
through
four,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
I
see
eyes
have
it.
B
P
B
Yeah
any
discussion
or
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
all
right
oppose
the
eyes.
Have
it
now
for
one
day
now
for
third
reading
and
ratification,
all
right
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
eyes
have
it.
Lastly,
we
have
number
seven
that
changes
to
our
sidewalk
cafe
regulations.
C
R
Yes,
mr
mayor,
so
on
your
desk
this
evening
you
found
a
an
amendment
based
on
the
conversation
that
we
had.
You
had
previously
deferred
this
item,
so
that
staff
could
work
with
the
council,
member
seekings
and
the
mayor
to
go
out
and
take
a
harder
look
and
see
if
there
was
some
additional
flexibility.
R
After
that
those
meetings,
we
do
believe
there's
some
additional
flexibility,
and
so
you
have
a
proposed
amendment
to
to
this
amendment.
So
you
have
a
second
amendment
that
would
reduce
the
sidewalk
with
from
the
building
to
the
curb
down
to
eight
feet
instead
of
ten
feet,
and
with
that,
we
would
request
that
that
this
to
be
approved
this
evening,
if
possible,.
G
G
We
met
because,
as
you
all
might
recall,
when
we
got
this
ordinance,
there
was
also
a
memo
given
to
us
listing
some
of
the
businesses
that
had
taken
advantage
of
the
outdoor
dining
provisions
during
our
emergency
ordinance
and
would
not
meet
the
requirements
of
this
ordinance
and
we
literally
went
and
walked
the
street
measured
thought
about
some
opportunities
to
make
some
adjustments,
and
I
believe
everyone
who
wanted
to
stay
in
is
going
to
be
able
to
stay
in
now
as
a
result
of
that
work.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that.
It
was.
G
B
Any
other
questions
or
discussions
all
in
favor,
councilmember
jackson.
I.
I
Just
have
a
question:
I
really
appreciate
that
you
were
able
to
do
that
drill
down,
get
get
all
the
people
who
have
taken
advantage
of
the
temporary
ordinance
back
into
a
permanent
format.
So,
and-
and
so
my
my
question-
is
so
new
people,
new
business
owners
will
be
able
to
come
in
right.
This
is
not
grandfathered
in
even
if
they're,
because
we've
we've
adjusted
permanently
the
requirement
of
the
hp.
Okay,
absolutely.
B
This
is
intended
for
going
forward
great.
Thank
you
all
right,
any
other
questions.
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
those
the
odds
have
it
now
for
third
reading
and
ratification,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
aye
and
you
oppose
the
eyes,
have
it
next
we
have
bills
up.
B
J
B
P
R
Yes,
mr
mayor
councilman,
yes,
so
we
did,
you
will
find
in
the
back
of
material
under
the
the
methodology
you
will
find.
Accountants
will
understand
it.
The
rest
of
us
will
not,
but
there's
a
calculation
that
exempts
the
square
footage
of
any
bona
fide
affordable
housing
project,
which
basically
means
it's
been
registered
with
community
and
housing,
housing
and
community
development
that
it
would
that
square
footage
is
exempt
from
any
application
of
the
assessment.
B
To
your
very
good
comments
about
this
at
the
last
minute
council
member
sacrament.
E
R
E
On
and
off
king
street,
a
lot
of
local
folks
as
a
small
business
owner
who's
looked
for
frontage
space
on
king
street.
I
can
tell
you
in
order
to
expand
my
concept
I
couldn't
afford
the
lease
today.
I
couldn't
afford
the
lease
five
years
ago.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
this
bid
is
created,
that
we
do
build
in
some
reassurances
for
local
small
business
owners
to
to
not
pre
of
access
to.
N
E
E
What
safeguards
we
have
in
place
for
this
particular
bid
to
ensure
we
don't
make
it
harder
for
not
just
small
business
owners,
but
in
particularly
minority
and
women-owned
business
owners
who
want
to
do
business
on
king
street.
Another
question
is:
will
the
building
owner
simply
pass
the
tax
increase
on
to
the
business
owner
who's
who's
there?
So
that's
another
thing.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
if,
if
the
owner
of
that
building
is
going
to
see
a
tax
increase
that
they
pass
that
on
to
to
the
tenant?
E
Lastly,
you
know
it's
theoretically
possible
that
the
bid
can
help
a
community
and
help
businesses
grow
through
actions
like
improving
garbage
collection
and
putting
on
public
events
and
providing
tools
for
small
businesses
to
to
navigate
the
bureaucracy.
But
what
I've
read
in
just
in
the
week
that
I
have
is
too
often
bids
have
turned
against
the
businesses.
They
were
meant
to
serve
so
making
the
cost
of
entry
into
the
new
area
even
higher
for
local
merchants
and
essentially
lacking
that
transparent
transparency
needed
to
instill
trust
from
the
community,
which
goes
back
to
my
question.
E
R
So,
mr
mayor,
I
just
just
for
everyone
is
peace
of
mind-
a
couple
questions
there.
So
one
of
the
things
that
still
has
to
be
done
after
the
adoption
of
the
bid
is
the
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
cba,
which
would
be
the
non-profit.
That
would
manage
the
day-to-day
activity.
However,
so
that
still
has
to
be
done.
R
So
those
safeguards
that
you
would
like
to
see
in
there
spelling
out
and
specifying
certain
requirements
that
the
city
has
for
the
cda
in
terms
of
reporting
back
to
the
city
when
they
come
back
for
review
by
the
by
the
city.
All
of
that
will
be
spelled
out
in
in
that,
so
that
strategic
part
that
that's
what
the
council
and
staff
will
work
on
the
day-to-day
operations
of
the
bid.
R
That
would
be
what
their
board
is,
and
I
would
just
put
out
there
because
I've
seen
some
of
the
social
media
on
this.
You
know
this.
The
cda
has
been
very,
very
strategic
in
ensuring
that
their
board
is
not
just
ownership
based.
They
have
members
who
are
are
pure
renters,
so
they
have
folks
that
own
and
operate
on
king
street.
They
have
other
folks
who
are
just
operators
on
king
street.
They
don't
own
their
buildings,
they
have
folks
that
represent.
R
You
know
all
segments
of
the
the
business
community
on
king
street.
So
you
have
folks
that
are
office
users.
You
have
retailers,
you
have
restaurant
tours.
You
have
hotels,
hotel
rooms,
people
who
run
thank
you,
so
so
they
they
have
been
made
efforts
from
that
standpoint
to
be
very
inclusive.
One
of
the
conversations
we
are
having
with
them
is
again
being
a
little
bit
more
direct
and
inclusive
language
and
in
conversations
about
the
board
makeup
going
forward
and
then
one
last
thing:
the
city
does
have
a
seat
at
that
table.
R
We
are
on
their
board
as
non
non-voting
members,
so
we
are
always
participating
in
those
discussions
that
the
board
is
having
and
do
have
a
voice
at
that
point
at
this
time.
So
again,
one
of
the
next
steps
that
we'll
have
to
do
after
the
adoption
of
the
ordinance,
assuming
that
the
district
is
created,
would
be
to
create
that
management
agreement
with
the
nonprofit
between
the
city
and
them,
and
that
has
to
be
negotiated.
Yet.
B
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you,
mr
summerfield,
for
reminding
us
that
there
are
several
you
know.
Key
negotiations,
agreements
participations
to
be
had
before
this
is
in
operation.
I
If
council
member
sacrament
hadn't
said
what
he
said,
so
I'm
going
to
associate
myself
with
his
precautions,
I
guess
was
a
word
that
he
used
that
I
I
I'm
going
to
vote
for
for
approving
this
first
reading,
but
I
do
hope
that
maybe,
instead
of
just
pushing
it
through
at
the
next
meeting
of
council
in
january
that
you
all
could
agree
to
have
an
extended
a
little
more
extended
time
out
to
let
the
business
owners,
especially
the
local
and
small
business
owners,
I
feel,
like
they've,
been
thoroughly
educated.
I
I
was
encouraged
to
hear
mr
warner
say
during
his
petition
time
to
us
that
they
now
have
50
business
operators
who
are
not
property
owners
on
board.
But
again
I
I
do
think,
and
I
I
will
just
close
right
now-
I'm
going
to
be
going
on
to
the
policy
and
advocacy
committee
for
the
lowcountry
local
first.
So
I'm
going
to
be
a
big
advocate.
I
I
have
been
since
long
before
I
was
elected
for
the
seat
to
support
the
very
local
businesses
of
this
community
that
basically
puts
charleston
on
the
map,
and
I
I
know
that
you
know
king
street
has
been
a
financial
challenge
to
small
and
local
businesses
for
the
last,
let's
just
say,
20
years,
but
certainly
in
the
last
decade,
since
I've
been
part
of
the
community-
and
I
I
really
just
feel
like
this-
has
got
to
be
a
cooperative
effort.
I
If
you
don't
have
every
person
who
is
paying
rent
or
owning
property,
that
runs
a
business
or
some
sort
of
venture
on
king
street,
proud
and
engaged
in
being
part
of
this,
then
it's
gonna
be
like
big
brother
taking
over
again.
So
I
I
don't
think
we
want
that.
That's
not
at
all,
but
I
mean
on
the
city
side
we're
turning
over
to
private
venture,
the
the
care
and
feeding
of
the
property
owners
and
the
businesses
and
our
reputation
on
king
street.
I
So
I
know
we
have
our
hearts
in
the
right
place
on
why
to
do
this.
Another
thing
that
I
think
would
be
very
educational
for
for
the
community
and
ourselves
would
be
to
maybe
have
someone
take
a
look
at
the
history
of
bids
around
the
country.
We
have
heard
several
comments
that
over
time,
business
improvement
districts
tend
to,
you
know,
become
more
formulated,
less
nimble,
less
favorable
to
the
startup
businesses,
and
especially
since
we
are
bending
over
backwards
to
be
a
nurturing
fostering
city
to
to
small
minority
and
women-owned
businesses.
I
I
So
we
know
the
pitfalls
of
what
we're
going
to
avoid
as
the
sponsors
of
a
very
innovative
and
supportive
business
improvement
district
for
the
for
the
place
that
we
all
know
is
you
know
the
bread
basket
of
charleston
in
this
day
and
age,
but
I
I
do
feel
like
a
time
out
to
educate
more
and
more
of
the
businesses
lowcountry
local
first
is
very
eager
to
to
volunteer
to
help
bring
in
people
that
maybe
feel
like
they
haven't
really
heard
the
full
story
of
what
has
happened
happening
here,
and
I
think
it
could
be
a
very
positive
process.
A
E
E
B
We
have
a
motion
to
go
in
executive
session
before
we
do.
I
would
like
to
share
with
council
that
this
will
be
the
last
full
meeting
for
both
councilmember
griffin
and
jackson,
but
I
understand
that
councilmember
griffin
may
not
be
able
to
join
us
at
the
partial
next
meeting
that
he
would
be
able
to
attend.
So
I'd
like
to
call
on
council
member
griffin,
thank
you
and
and
and
before
you
speak.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
service
to
the
city,
to
your
district.
B
N
Thank
you
so
much.
I
want
to
thank
each
and
every
one
of
you
for
the
pleasure
to
serve
along
with
all
the
council
members
that
aren't
with
us
today,
but
I
served
for
my
first
two
years.
More
importantly,
I
want
to
thank
district
10
for
the
greatest
honor
of
my
young
life
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
all
continue
the
great
work
of
our
city.
Thank
you
all
and
happy
holidays
to
everybody.
E
E
H
You
know
they
wonder
about
us
and
why
all
the
time
I
love
you
too,
you
know
while
we
are
in
different
places.
Sometimes
I
do
think
that
you
know
your
heart
is
always
in
the
right
place
and
that's
the
part
of
you
that
I
appreciate.
Most
of
all,
you
will
be
missed.
Okay,
but,
like
I
told
you
earlier,
your
work
is
not
done.
P
Chance
just
starting
right
now,
I
do
want
to
say
I
want
to
respect
the
way
you
prepare
for
every
meeting.
There
have
been
people
that
not
only
I
none
of
us
have
served
with
when
they
sat
down,
they
would
literally
open
their
package
when
they
sat
down
in
the
sea
that
never
happened
with
you.
You
always
prepared
now
when
people
come
here
and
do
their
homework
on
behalf
of
the
citizens.
P
P
So,
anyway,
like
everybody
else,
you
got
miles
to
go,
look
forward
to
seeing
your
works
in
the
community
in
years
to
come.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
All
right
can
I
entertain
a
motion
that
we
come
out
of
executive
session,
all
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
the
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
let
the
record
show
that
no
action
was
taken
while
we
were
in
executive
session
once
again,
I
want
to
wish
everybody
happy
holidays
and
a
merry
christmas,
and
this
is
the
last
meeting
for
2021
for
the
city
council
of
charleston.
We
stand
adjourned
thanks.
Everybody.