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From YouTube: City of Charleston City Council Meeting 2/14/2023
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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 2/14/2023
B
All
right,
I
I,
almost
hate
to
call
this
meeting
to
order
we're
having
so
much
fun
all
right.
So
I
would
like
to
call
this
Valentine's
Day
February
14th
meeting
of
the
city
Council
of
Charleston,
to
order
and
ask
Madam
clerk.
If
she
would
please
call
the
roll.
C
E
E
E
But
let
us
be
also
be
mindful
that
there's
people
here
that
still
in
need-
and
we
can
not-
cannot
forget
about
them
and
while
we're
sitting
in
these
Chambers
and
making
decisions,
we
have
to
do
it
with
Mind,
Body,
Body
and
Soul,
because
one
day
we
don't
know
where
we
would
be.
These
blessings
are
actually
your
name,
amen,
amen,.
B
All
right
well,
thank
you
all
for
being
with
us
this
evening.
First,
we
have
a
few
presentations
and
recognitions.
First,
one
is
a
recognition.
It
was
requested
by
council
member
saccharin
by
the
way
who's.
The
current
chair
of
our
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation.
Commission
I'd
like
to
ask
him
and
our
manager
of
that
commission
Adrian
Swinton
to
come
forward
and
join
me,
and
what
he's
asked
us
to
do
is
to
recognize
the
members
of
the
special
Commission
on
Equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
B
Those
commission
members
who
served
so
diligently
and
and
so
Faithfully
to
the
City
of
Charleston
and
and
I'm
just
going
to
acknowledge
that
the
the
way
the
recommendations
from
the
commission
kind
of
resolve
themselves
here
in
city
council
I
feel
like
it.
It
just
didn't
give
us
the
adequate
opportunity
to
thank
you
to
thank
you
for
your
efforts
throughout
your
deliberations
and
recommendations
that
were
were
made
to
council.
B
It
was
no
easy
task,
so
without
further
Ado,
and
hopefully
I've
got
everybody
who
are
as
feet
peed
that
they
would
be
here
would
y'all.
B
Please
join
us
up
here
on
the
podium:
Katie
McCain
Kenneth
battle,
Tracy
Doran,
Melissa,
Barrett,
Amy,
Sutherland,
najima,
Davis,
Washington,
Vanessa,
halyard,
Marla
Robertson,
and
graduate
students
Virginia
long
and
Catherine
Holmes,
Abraham,
champagne,
Colleen,
Condon,
Alvin,
Johnson,
former
council
member
Carol,
Jackson
John,
Mitchell
and
oatha
Meadows,
and
if
there's
anyone
else
that
served
on
the
commission
that
didn't
get
their
name
in
that
happened
to
be
with
us.
B
Please
come
forward
as
well,
and
yes
I
wanted
to
ask
council
member
Gregory
to
join
us,
because
at
that
time
both
he
and
council
member
sakron
served
as
co-chairs
of
that
initial
commission.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
council
member
sakron
and
Miss
Swinton
if
they
would
like
to
make
any
comments
and
by
the
way,
I
hope
you
all
can
stay
around
for
just
a
little
while
after
public
participation.
B
Adrian
is
also
going
to
give
the
first
report
to
Council
of
the
subsequent
and
now
current
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation.
Commission
we'll
be
doing
that
tonight.
So
your
work
goes
on
and
I
hope,
there's
some
some
Solace
and
and
and
goodness
out
of
that
councilmember
Sacramento.
F
Looks
long,
but
it's
not
I
just
want
to
say
good
evening,
I
appreciate
the
mayor
and
fellow
council
members
taking
the
time
to
ignite
tonight
to
acknowledge
the
hard
work
of
our
special
commission.
F
You
know
for
the
record
we
charged
this
group
of
talented
volunteers
with
doing
something
we
knew
would
be
controversial.
We
asked
them
to
Unapologetic
unapologetically,
review
policies
and
practices,
have
difficult
conversations
with
each
other
and
then
assemble
all
those
recommendations,
regardless
of
the
political
weight
those
recommendations
carried,
and
that
is
exactly
what
you
all
did
I'm
sure
I'm
going
to
miss
a
few
people
and
I'm
not
going
to
publicly
name
all
the
folks
that
are
on
here,
because
the
mayor
has
done
an
awesome
job
of
doing
that.
F
But
I
do
want
to
say
and
recognize
councilmember
Gregory
first
contributions
as
well
as
our
former
manager
of
equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation,
Amber
Johnson.
They
really
helped
lay
the
groundwork
for
their
progress
in
the
very
instrumental
in
creating
the
permanent
commission
which
we
commonly
refer
to
as
the
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation
Commission.
F
As
many
people
recall,
the
reaction,
outcry
and
hysteria
over
some
of
the
recommendations
was
not
only
proof
that
this
work
is
critically
important
for
our
community
but
Illustrated
to
me,
some
of
the
double
standard
and
hypocrisy
that
is
baked
in
our
system.
F
F
I
bring
all
this
up
this
evening,
because
we
are
seeing
the
same
tactics
being
directed
our
school
boards
and
education
leaders
and
putting
our
teachers
in
the
most
difficult
of
situations.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
this:
the
teaching
children
about
the
full
history
of
all
people
in
Charleston
and
discussing
the
role
of
slavery
and
racism
is
not
critical
race
Theory
and
is
not
intended
to
make
white
kids
feel
guilty
or
black
kids
feel
powerless.
F
It's
called
history
and
no
offense
to
the
critics,
but
learning
about
history
should
be
emotional
and
it
should
be
visceral.
It's
literal.
The
definition
of
education
and
learning
I
want
to
publicly
thank
my
fellow
council
members
who
took
a
risk
politically
oftentimes.
You
forget
about
these
things.
We
forget
about
the
relationships
that
we
have
with
folks
and
there
were
folks
in
this
Council
in
this
chamber
that
had
to
take
a
political
risk.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that
courage.
That
is
courage.
That's
leadership!
F
That's
not
going
back
to
your
district
and
listening
to
your
to
your
constituents.
That's
doing
what
is
right
for
not
just
your
District,
but
what's
right
for
Charleston
fast
forward.
Today,
the
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation
commission
is
in
full
swing.
We
meet
monthly
and
while
the
progress
has
been
slow
for
some,
it
has
been
steady,
strategic
and
intentional
I
would
encourage
those
in
the
community
who
were
so
vehemently
opposed
to
the
formation
of
the
permanent
Commission,
perhaps
tend
one
of
our
meetings.
We
would
love
for
you
to
participate
and
join
the
conversation.
F
I
want
to
say
thanks
again
to
the
volunteers,
who
keep
up
with
their
time
on
the
special
commission
and
the
volunteers
who
are
working
on
Hark
right
now.
Thank
you
to
Adrian
Swinton
for
continued
leadership,
and
she
helped
shape
this
important
work.
Adrian
and
former
current
commission
members
I
want
to.
Let
you
all
know
that
your
immediate
contributions,
May
I,
want
to.
F
Let
you
all
know
that
your
immediate
contributions
may
go
unnoticed,
but
please
know
this:
you
are
helping
to
reshape
and
redefine
how
the
city
operates
and
how
it
confronts
and
deals
with
its
role
in
the
institution
of
slavery.
These
changes
will
outlive
this
Council
sorry
this
mayor
and
certainly
outlive
the
loud
minority.
F
G
Let
me
go
first
to
the
mayor,
mayor,
techlinburg,
council
to
co-chairs
councilman
Gregory
and
councilman
saccharin
and
the
special
Commission,
the
great
Maya
Angelou,
once
penned,
just
like
news
and
like
Sons
with
the
certainty
of
Tides,
just
like
hope,
springing
High,
Still,
I,
Rise,
I,
say
to
this
Commission
of
leaders,
Who
Rose,
to
the
challenge
of
sitting
in
uncomfortable
spaces,
breaking
down
barriers
of
taboo
that
racial
Equity
should
not
be
one
of
an
intellectual
conversation
but
stood
in
the
Gap
producing
what
is
not
ink
on
paper,
not
a
report,
but
a
contribution
of
time
sacrifice
scheduled
alterations
and
countless
hours
of
dedication.
H
H
H
H
B
Oh
council,
members,
council
member
shade.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
and
it
wasn't
lost
for
me,
but
councilmember,
Sacrament
and
councilman
would
greatly
have
stated,
but
I've
got
to
tip
my
hat
to
both
of
those
gentlemen
and
to
the
fellows
standing
next
to
Mr
Harris
Jerome
Harris,
who
I've
gotten
to
known
over
time.
I
The
birthing
of
this
commission
as
councilman
Sacrament,
was
very
painful,
and
there
are
several
people
in
this
room
who
did
put
aside
political
concerns
and
wanted
to
do
what
was
the
right
thing
to
do,
and
that
was
a
result
of
many
meetings,
many
conversations,
but
also
that
we
all
listened
and
councilman
soccer
and
councilman
Gregory
listened
in
the
came
out
of
a
spirit
of
compromise
to
create
this
commission
and
it
was
hard
and
it
was
difficult.
But
you
look
at.
We
can
see
you
from
here
from
down
here.
I
We
see
you
guys
out
there,
and
this
really
is
a
beautiful
thing
to
look
at
and
the
diversity
that
is
represented
with
this
commission
and
the
work
that
y'all
do
is
really
a
beautiful
thing.
We
we
appreciate
what
you've
done.
I
appreciate
my
colleagues
for
stepping
forward
at
that
time
when
they
did
and
go
forth
Happy
Valentine's
Day.
Thank.
B
You
thank
you.
Now.
The
co-chair
of
the
original
commission
was
Jerry
Harris
current
co-chair
of
the
heart
and
I'm
going
to
have
you
back
up
on
the
next
presentation
as
well.
Would
you
like
to
speak
now
or
or
then
we'll
be
we'll
be
back
in
about
you're,
going
to
be
back
in
about
two
minutes,
all
right,
yeah?
B
Well
again,
our
heartfelt
thanks
to
you,
I
I,
hope,
that's
conveyed
and
comes
across.
Y'all
really
didn't
make
a
difference.
I
know
it
was,
as
I
said
earlier,
the
way
it
resolved
with
the
recommendations
it.
It
seemed
a
little
awkward
and
but,
as
council
member
Gregory
pointed
out,
we
really
have
baked
in
recommendations
into
a
comprehensive
plan.
B
Other
things
that
we're
doing
at
the
city
are
police
racial
bias,
audit
and
following
up
on
those
recommendations
and
also
the
continuing
work
of
the
heart,
so
it's
it's
all
been
filled.
The
good
God
bless
you
and
thank
you
again
for
being
here
tonight
to
be
recognized.
Thank
you.
A
B
Next
we
have
a
resolution
recognizing
Black
History
Month
I'm,
going
to
ask
Jerry
Harris
to
come
back
up
I
incorrectly
stated
a
moment
ago.
He's
co-co-chair
of
the
present
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation.
Commission
he's
president
of
the
Charleston
branch
of
the
association
for
the
study
of
African,
American
life
and
history,
and
if
you
join
me,
Jerry
at
the
podium
and
I'll
read
this
resolution.
B
That's
the
next
one
and
then
I'd
like
to
ask
you
to
make
a
few
remarks
and
thanks
for
the
other
members
to
be
here
as
well.
Thank
you.
B
So,
whereas,
from
the
earliest
days,
black
communities
have
written
crucial
chapters
in
our
national
history
and
whereas
black
Americans
have
contributed
greatly
to
our
nation
and
all
areas,
including
science,
art,
music,
Sports,
education,
public
service
and
others,
and
have
bravely
served
our
country
in
many
ways,
both
during
times
of
peace
and
War
throughout
our
nation's
history,
whereas
black
Americans
represent
an
array
of
distinct
and
vibrant
cultures,
Each
of
which
enriches
communities
in
valuable
ways,
whereas,
according
to
the
international
African-American
Museum
historians,
believe
nearly
90
percent
of
African
Americans
can
trace
their
roots
to
Charleston
to
Gadsden
dwarf.
B
President
Gerald
Ford,
officially
recognized
Black
History
Month
in
1976,
calling
upon
the
public
to
honor
the
accomplishments
of
African
Americans
in
every
area
throughout
history.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
city
council
of
the
City
of
Charleston
recognizes
February
1
through
the
28th
as
Black
History
Month,
and
encourages
residents
to
celebrate
the
cultural,
professional,
educational
and
Civic
contributions
of
African-American.
B
H
J
You
thank
you
mayor.
It
was
a
year
ago,
a
year
in
five
days
ago,
this
Council
passed
the
ordinance
finally
establishing
the
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation
Commission.
J
At
that
time,
this
Council
gave
evidence
to
or
thoughts
that
Frederick
Douglass
shared
with
us
some
years
ago,
which
is
where
there
is
no
struggle.
There
is
no
progress.
This
Council,
as
a
body
did
struggle
in
struggled.
There
is
pain
and
struggle.
There
is
conflict,
but
hopefully,
as
Reverend
was
excuse
me,
Dr
Woodson
suggested
in
creating
The
Campaign,
which
is
now
known
as
Black
History
Month
that
365
days
a
year,
people
will
take
advantage
of
the
information
that
they
that's
readily
available
to
them.
J
To
understand
and
discover
that
black
history
is
American,
history
and
American.
History
is
Black
History
365
days.
It
is
the
failure
of
our
of
us
to
have
that
ingrained
as
part
of
our
socialization
that
created
the
conditions
that
led
to
the
kind
of
conflict
and
discomfort
in
this
body.
In
this
room.
Dissociation
is
109
years
old.
As
a
mayor
has
indicated,
we
brought
1400
people
from
all
over
the
country
to
appreciate
the
tourist
trade
here
in
Charleston.
We
are
an
economic
engine.
J
History
is
an
economic
injury,
I
think
it
was
Faulkner
who
said
history
is
not
dead.
In
fact,
it's
not
passed
in
the
tourism
trade
here
in
the
city
represents
the
reality
of
that.
J
At
the
same
time,
the
architecture
of
something
called
race
which
we
know
is
not
true,
has
generated
something
called
racism,
which
creates
a
lot
of
dysfunction.
History,
what's
in
believe-
and
we
believe,
is
an
antidote
to
that.
Standing
with
me
are
members
of
the
association,
many
of
whom
are
involved
in
a
wide
range
of
activities,
teaching
and
promoting
information
about
Charleston.
J
That
happens
might
happen
to
have
an
African-American
lens
doctor
Butler,
the
director
of
Avery,
a
powerful
young
person
PhD,
who
also
is
an
author
and
does
some
tremendous
work
pulling
together
and
supporting
things
that
are
going
on
in
the
city.
Avery
is
an
example
of
black
resistance.
The
theme
for
this
year
is
black
resistance.
The
existence
of
Avery,
creating
the
Jim
Crow
era
is
an
example
of
that
Dina
Davis
a
past
president
of
the
organization,
Julie
Allen
Davis,
who
is
a
descendant
of
the
crass?
J
If
you
don't
know
the
craft
story,
husband
and
wife
Gene,
who
miraculously
escaped
slavery
in
the
1840s
became
abolitionists
in
their
stories,
made
Charleston
famous
right
now.
The
book
about
the
most
recent
book
about
the
crafts
is
about
number
six
or
seven
right
on
the
best
sellers
list.
If
you
haven't
read
that
book,
you
should
read
it
Margaret
seidler
Margaret
is
a
tireless
member
doing
projects
she
just
joins
organization.
J
She
can
create
trouble
on
your
phone
on
your
desk
or
you
will
see
the
historic
marker
card
that
the
city
has
helped
fund.
Margaret,
in
fact,
was
a
leader
of
that
effort.
J
Lee
Bennett
lee
is
a
historian
at
mother.
Emanuel
lee
is
a
resource.
Any
time
of
day
people,
tourism
from
tourism
all
over
the
country
come
to
look
at
and
see
the
building
what
he
provides
the
history,
and
it's
that
context
that
information-
that's
important.
I'll
leave
you
with
with
this
story
again.
If
there's
no
struggle,
there
is
no
progress.
J
The
purpose
of
education
is
for
us
to
discover
who
we
are
where
we
are
now,
so
that
we
can
change
and
make
things
better
in
the
future.
I
trust
that
you
as
members
of
the
public
and
the
city
council,
will
not
just
give
us
this
resolution
today
and
say:
okay,
Black,
History,
Month
28
days
is
over.
Let's
move
on
to
the
next
thing:
black
history
in
American
history:
it's
a
365
days
a
year
challenge
to
us
all.
J
B
B
All
right,
we
have
one
more
resolution
tonight
and
this
is
to
honor
National
mentoring
month,
which
in
fact
was
last
month.
But
that's
okay,
because
we
view
mentoring
as
being
a
year-long
activity
in
the
City
of
Charleston
and
our
region
right
Sam.
B
So
if
I
may
ask
Mindy
Sturm
who's
director
of
our
mayor's
office
of
children,
youth
and
families,
Sam
Bellamy
he's
the
mayor's
mentoring,
Consortium,
co-facility,
co-facilitator,
Stacia,
Bennett,
kids
on
point
Cal,
Morrison,
Charleston,
youth,
Leadership,
Council
and
Eric
Jackson,
with
R3
Inc
to
join
me
at
the
podium,
and
we
have
a
resolution
for
mentoring
as
well.
B
So,
whereas
January
is
National
mentoring
month,
an
annual
campaign
to
recruit
qualified
mentors
to
provide
additional
networks
of
support
for
young
people,
whereas
the
City
of
Charleston
recognizes
the
contributions
of
volunteer
mentors
who
guide
young
people
to
succeed
in
their
education,
career
and
well-being
and
I,
don't
know
anybody
that
didn't
have
a
mentor
coming
along
the
road.
The
way
I
know
I
did
whereas
mentoring
programs
make
our
state
and
communities
Stronger
by
enabling
impactful
relationships
that
increase
social
capital
for
young
people
and
provide
invaluable
support
networks.
B
Whereas
the
city
has
created
the
mayor's
mentoring
Consortium,
to
bring
together
mentoring
programs
working
in
our
community
to
strengthen
and
support
their
efforts
and
whereas,
throughout
the
kova
19
pandemic,
mentoring
programs
have
stepped
up
to
ensure
that
mentoring
relationships
continued
virtually,
while
also
connecting
families
to
critical
resources
and
services.
Whereas
mentors
can
help
young
people
explore
careers
and
build
skills
to
achieve
higher
lifetime
economic
outcomes
by
helping
them
set.
B
Career
goals,
write
a
resume
practice
for
an
interview
connecting
them
to
Opportunities
and
more,
and
whereas
researchers
demonstrated
that
mentoring
programs
have
a
significant
positive
impact
on
a
variety
of
academic
achievement
measures,
including
truancy,
absenteeism,
Scholastic
efficiency
and
engagement,
School,
related
misconduct
and
peer
support.
Whereas
mentoring
can
be
an
especially
effective
prevention
and
intervention
strategy
for
young
people
with
marginalized
identities
such
as
youth
with
disabilities,
young
people
of
color,
lgbtq,
Youth
and
youth
with
experience
in
foster
care
and
whereas
quality
mentoring
promotes
healthy
relationships
and
communication.
B
Positive
self-esteem,
emotional
well-being
and
relationship
growth
for
young
people,
whereas
National
mentoring
month
is
a
time
of
year
to
celebrate.
Elevate,
encourage
mentoring
across
our
state
and
recruit
caring
adult
mentors
in
Charleston
now,
therefore,
I
John,
J
tecklenburg,
mayor
of
the
city,
along
with
city
council,
Proclaim,
January
2023,
is
National
mentoring
month,
but
I'm
going
to
say
that
the
year
of
2023
is
should
be
mentoring
year
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
So
just
to
cover
that.
B
So
these
fine
folks
behind
me
are
involved
each
and
every
day
in
helping
Mentor
the
Youth
of
our
community
I'm,
going
to
add
some
Mindy
and
or
Sam
to
come
forward.
If
they'd
like
to
share
a
few
comments
about
what
we're
doing
Sam,
you.
G
K
Thank
you,
I
will
keep
it
really
really
brief.
I
think
the
the
resolution
said
it
all.
January
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
elevate
and
amplify
the
message
of
mentoring.
We
know
naturally,
that
potentially
potential
is
equally
distributed,
but
opportunity
isn't
so
I'm
proud
to
stand
side
by
side
with
some
of
my
fellow
mentoring,
comrades,
I,
think
Mindy
and
the
mayor
in
the
city
for
the
support
of
our
young
people
and
I.
We
thank
you
so
much
for
this
resolution.
B
L
Would
like
to
just
say:
I,
really
thank
you,
mayor
for
your
leadership
on
this
I
think
that
and
Council
as
well
with
your
voices.
We
can
really
Elevate
this
in
the
community
with
you
all
talking
about
it.
I
think
that's
a
wonderful
way
to
to
get
the
word
out
and
I
I
do
agree.
Everyone
has
mentors
along
the
way,
I
still
need
them,
and
so
I
just
want
to
thank
y'all
and
thank
the
mayor
for
his
support.
Thank
you.
B
So
so,
just
to
let
y'all
know
I
guess
it
started
about
two
years
ago,
when
we
were
still
in
the
midst
of
covid
and
recognizing
the
kids,
how
important
mentoring
was
to
them
and
Sam
really
took
the
lead
y'all
of
connecting
with
all
the
various
non-profits
and
organizations
and
we're
still
welcoming
people
that
we
find
out
about
to
come
together
in
a
Consortium
and
he
offers
expertise
and
and
advice
they
get
together.
We've
had
some
mentoring
fairs.
We
did
one
at
the
Joint
Base
Charleston.
B
We
did
one
at
Boeing
where
we
basically
have
a
trade
show
of
all
the
different
mentoring
groups
in
Charleston
region
and
and
solicit
volunteers
from
those
organizations
and
we've
had
we've
had
hundreds
of
volunteers
come
forward
through
these
efforts
to
support
These
Fine
organizations.
So
thank
you,
Sam
and
the
rest
of
you.
You
for
the
work
you've
been
doing
and
helping
the
Youth
of
this
community.
We
really
appreciate
it
all
right.
Next,
we
have
approval
of
city
council
minute
from
January
10th.
B
We
have
any
corrections
or
deletions
comments.
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
so
next
up
already
is
our
citizens
participation
period?
We
welcome
everyone.
That's
come
here
to
share
remarks
with
us,
and
Madam
clerk
will
help
lead
the
order
on
that.
How
many
folks
do
we
have.
C
M
It
was
killed
executed
in
1976
by
email,
Waterston
Muhammad,
the
son
of
Elijah
Muhammad
I,
come
before
you
this
evening
and
I'm
asking
for
you
all
to
help
me
to
get
three
billion
dollars
to
solve.
The
ethical
problem
in
our
community.
I
had
a
great
experience
yesterday
with
five
European
young.
Ladies,
they
made
me
thought.
I
was
in
heaven.
M
They
did
a
wonderful
job
at
the
hospital
that
I
visit
not
visit,
but
I
was
taking
it
out
of
emergency,
so
I
thought
I
would
come
here
tonight
and
tell
y'all
henceforth
Y'all
Gonna,
See
Muhammad
agrees
like
y'all,
have
never
seen
him
before
and
I'm
gonna
comment.
The
five
people
constant
seat
number
four
number,
six
number
seven
number
eight
number,
nine,
the
whole
world
wanna
know
but
know
about
y'all,
because
I
want
you
all
to
help
us
like.
M
We
have
helped
y'all
to
be
in
those
seat
and
get
all
the
money
on
I've
gotten
for
you
group
the
people
who
y'all
work
for
who
selected
y'all
so
we're
going
to
be
coming
at
you.
You
will
see
yourself
on
every
media
that
is
possible
and
we're
gonna
get
the
three
billion
dollars
to
do.
The
work
we
have
want
to
do
I
need
to
do
in
Charleston,
South
Carolina.
Thank
you.
M
N
Hi
good
evening,
it's
Carol
Jackson
1461,
Patterson
Avenue.
As
long
as
I'm
here
to
celebrate
the
progress
of
the
special
commission
and
harc
I
thought.
I
would
just
take
a
minute
to
come
to
to
thank
and
commend
the
mayor
and
councilwoman
Parker
for
pursuing
what
I'm,
considering
to
be
a
very
wonderful
case,
study
for
how
we
are
serving
a
community
that
has
been
overlooked,
underserved
and
and
and
and
not
respected,
in
the
ways
of
the
typical
services
that
we
provide
for
Citizens.
So
I'm
speaking
in
particular
about
the
neighborhood.
N
That's
on
the
very
south
end
of
James
Island.
They
call
themselves
artillery
Point,
neighborhood
association
and
council
member
Parker,
and
the
mayor
have
been
working
for
the
last
18
months.
Since
we
figured
out
that
there
were
over
I'd,
say
35
properties
we're
still
making
the
list
as
accurate
as
we
can.
We
know
that
there
are
about
50
properties
that
were
annexed
into
the
city
in
1997,
and
one
of
the
top
reasons
for
annexation
was
that
they
would
have
the
opportunity
to
connect
to
the
Charleston
water
sewer
system
25
years
later.
N
That
had
not
happened
and
there's
a
lot
of
real
reasons
why
it
took
so
long,
but
there's
also
a
lot
of
reasons
that
we
know
we
want
to
improve,
as
as
we're
working
together
as
a
more
wholesome
holistic
Society,
so
we're
on
the
way
the
project
is
underway.
The
funding
is
90
here
and
we'll
look
forward
to
coming
back
and
give
the
council
a
report
on
on
how
things
are
going.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
O
32
000
people
in
the
peninsula,
we're
still
downtown
Jazz
Ken
Virginia
documentary
on
jazz,
music
and
Duke
Ellington
said
this.
He
said
it
was
a
happy
day
when
the
first
unhappy
slaves
landed
on
these
Shores
and
so
there's
some
unhappy
news.
We
got
to
talk
about
tonight,
I
believe
myself
raised
in
a
church
and
state
for
what
reason
do
I
believe
in
that
slavery
and
Jim
Crow
politicians
enforced
and
administered
Injustice
on
black
folk
during
that
period
of
time.
O
So
anytime
has
presented
to
me
about
religion
in
America,
I
I,
wonder
who
you're
talking
about
who
you
talking
to
not
me
so
homeland
security
has
a
partnership
with
face-based
organizations
as
a
public
comment
on
the
national
level
to
that
effect,
and
then
the
fact
that
Homeland
Security
is
the
22
federal
agencies,
the
FBI
DEA.
All
these
groups
have
been
let's
put
on
our
community
since
the
1960
crime,
Bill
1970,
crimeville
I,
think
80
crimeville
1990
crimeville.
O
Every
progress
we've
made
as
Black
Folk
was
a
crime
Bill
behind
it,
and
so
therefore,
what
happened
in
Memphis
Tennessee
is
reflection.
At
black
on,
black
crime
is
self-hatred
toward
each
other,
and
so
we
can't
control
that
what
the
white
man
did
to
us.
Two
things
hate
ourselves:
we
got
fear
Him,
and
so
that's
the
problem,
those
that
afraid
to
be
black,
those
are
afraid
to
speak
up
for
Black
Folk,
those
that
promulgate
what
happened
in
Memphis
Tennessee
they're,
the
problem
too
black
lives
no
better
than
some
black
folk
for
a
couple
hundred
years.
O
B
C
We
did
receive
some
comments.
All
of
the
comments
received
online
and
by
telephone
were
sent
to
the
council
members
in
poll.
This
is
a
summary
of
comments
provided
by
those
that
have
not
already
spoken
at
the
meeting
tonight.
One
comment
online
asked
Council
to
proceed
with
the
pedicab
bid
and
said
that
bureaucratic
red
tape
stifled
Innovation
and
investment
in
the
city.
C
One
comment
online
urged
Council
to
stop
the
flying
of
the
Confederate
flag
at
the
battery
every
weekend,
as
it
was
offensive
to
Residents
and
tourists
and
those
that
flew
it
there
carried
guns
and
acted,
acted
aggressively.
One
comment
online
asked
the
city
to
take
an
active
interest
in
holding
permit
holders
accountable.
They
said
not
having
control
over
a
city
sanctioned
event
was
dangerous
and
unprofessional.
We
received
two
comments
by
phone
opposed
to
permits
being
issued
to
Flags
across
the
South.
We
received
one
comment
by
phone
approach
to
permits
being
issued
to
Flags
across
the
South.
C
They
also
stated
that
97
percent
of
all
of
the
disorderly
conduct
citations
issued
in
the
city
were
issued
to
African-American
youth.
They
also
asked
Council
or
the
clerk
to
announce
at
Council
meetings
that
citizens
can
and
should
participate
in
city
government
by
calling
the
hotline,
which
is
843-579-6313.
Tony
Daniel
submitted
a
comment
regarding
Council,
not
opening
an
illegally
closed
Road
and
those
are
all
the
comments
we
received.
B
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
Did
anyone
else
want
to
be
heard
that
didn't
sign
up
for
any
reason.
Well,
thank
you.
All
for
being
with
us,
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
being
with
us
and
listening
in
and
Happy
Valentine's
Day
to
everyone
all.
P
Right:
Mr
Mayor,
yes,
yes,
council
member,
if
I
might
please
I
would
like
to
move
pursuant
to
our
rules
and,
as
a
matter
of
personal
Indulgence,
I
have
a
family
matter
that
I
need
to
attend
to.
Yes,
sir
I
would
like
to
see
if
we
can
move
and
take
K1
out
of
order,
which
is
the
report
of
the
traffic
Transportation
committee.
I,
wouldn't
otherwise
do
that.
But
I
think
the
council
may
have
a
couple
of
questions
from
that
report.
Absolutely
and
I'd
like
to
give
it
before.
B
B
Opposition
will
move
forward
to
K1
and
come
back
to
our
petitions
and
Communications,
so
I'll
call
on
council
member
seekinges,
chairman
of
the
committee
on
traffic
and
transportation,.
P
And
thank
you
Mr
Mayor
and
fellow
council
member
strongholdsie
man
allowing
me
to
take
this
out
of
order.
I
know.
There's
a
number
of
people
want
to
be
heard
and
we'll
make
this
as
brief
as
we
can.
The
committee
on
traffic
and
transportation
met
last
Tuesday
February
7th
at
2
at
four
o'clock
we
had
a
number
of
items
that
we
took
up,
that
I'm
going
to
run
through
quickly
and
I
suspect.
There
may
be
a
few
questions
from
each
one
of
you
or
some
of
you
around
this
table.
P
We
got
an
update
by
the
way
on
our
Bike
Share
program.
You
know,
as
you
know,
we're
now
into
a
second
generation
of
the
Bike
Share
program
now
being
administered
by
lime.
Lime
is
an
international
company
that
has
really
tailored
their
program
quite
nicely
to
Charleston.
The
report
is
good
and
getting
better.
It's
getting
a
lot
of
usage
they're,
getting
better
at
positioning
the
bikes
and
making
sure
that
the
rules
of
the
road
are
followed,
particularly
on
the
penis
So.
P
Currently,
that
being
going,
the
right
way
down
one-way
streets,
staying
off
sidewalks
and
because
of
the
fact
that
they're,
not
just
a
transportation
company
but
but
they're,
a
tech
company,
we're
going
to
work
on
some
geo-fencing
to
help
along
the
the
rooting
system
so
go
along.
Well
a
couple
things:
there
was
a
request
and
some
conversation
about
expanding
the
program
into
West
Ashley
and
to
James
Island
West
Ashley
is
a
natural
with
the
greenway
sitting
there
with
the
West
Ashley
bike.
Pedestrian
bridge
coming
right
at
us
sooner
rather
than
later.
P
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
sentiment
internally
and
there's
ability
on
limest
part
to
do
that.
So
they're
going
to
look
into
it.
It
helps
member
Parker
asked
about
James
Allen
too,
and
we'll
make
sure
that
they
put
that
into
the
consideration
umbrella
and
we
will
move
forward,
but
their
Dynamic
company
they're
doing
great
so
so
far
so
good.
P
We
then
took
up
a
discussion
just
a
discussion
about
our
pedicap
program
in
the
city.
As
you
may
recall,
we
amended
our
pedicab
ordinance
about
eight
months
ago,
know
maybe
nine
months
ago
now
to
give
us
the
ability
to
expand
that
program
from
the
current
15
daytime,
decals
and
30
nighttime
decals
to
expand
it
by
six.
Both
day
and
night.
We
went
through
a
process
that
was
actually
a
a
RFQ
process
that
was
failed.
We
did
not
put
it
back
out,
so
we
put
it
on
the
table
and
brought
it
back
up.
P
Since
we
passed
that
ordinance
we're
coming
down
the
pike
with
the
peninsula
plan,
we've
already
hired
our
Consultants
we've
reconfigured
King
Street.
We're
still
going
through
that
process,
which
has
made
access
to
King
Street
a
little
more
difficult
for
a
number
of
people,
not
just
the
pedicab
team.
P
The
DOT
road
safety
audit
is
going
to
come
up
for
discussion
next
month
as
well,
so
put
all
that
into
the
mixer.
I
think
that
we
will
bring
it
back
up.
I
know
that
we're
going
to
bring
it
back
up,
we're
going
to
vote
on
whether
to
put
it
back
out
again
for
RFP
or
keep
it
status
quo,
anti
based
on
a
debate
and
vote,
we'll
bring
it
forward
to
you
next
month.
P
We
got
an
update
from
well.
We
we
did
not
get
an
update
on
this
City
State
Street
dichotomy
on
particularly
in
the
peninsula,
but
across
the
the
city
and
I
have
in
my
hands
and
I'll
make
sure
it
gets
distributed
to
all
of
you,
a
map
that
shows
in
any
any
part
of
the
city
where
we
own
streets,
as
opposed
to
the
D.O.T
I've,
got
one
right
here
and
you
can
see
this
is
the
peninsula.
P
It
is
a
crazy
checkerboard
out
there
for
purposes
of
us
moving
forward
with
certain
initiatives,
particularly
the
initiative.
The
council
member
Sacrament,
has
been
pushing
in
his
district.
We
need
to
get
a
hold
of
what
we
own,
what
we
don't
own
and
how
many
people
we
need
to
get
involved,
and
so
we
are
going
to
work
through
that
Mr
Somerville,
Mr,
Fountain,
the
Mr,
O'brien
and
I.
Have
a
conference
call
a
couple
weeks
ago
on
trying
to
get
together
a
package
on
not
only
what
we
own.
P
P
We
did
departure
that
up,
so
all
right,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
councilmember
Sacrament
in
particular
knows
that
we
haven't
forgotten
about
it
and
really
the
impetus
for
that
conversation
was
the
activism
by
your
constituents,
and
you
on
that
particular
issue.
So
again
more
to
come
on
that
we
took
up
valet
parking
80
at
Broad
Street,
which
is
right
outside
of
city
council
chambers
just
to
the
west
of
Meeting
Street
in
front
of
the
soon
to
be
open.
Tomorrow,
night
Sorel
restaurant
they've
requested
a
ballet
spot.
P
We
approved
it
conditionally,
pending
agreement
by
other
neighbors
along
there
to
allow
them
to
use
four
spots
after
6
PM
for
valet.
We're
also
going
to
take
up
the
valet
program
and
rethink
it
both
in
terms
of
specifically
identified
valet
spots
for
certain
businesses
and
then
Community
valet
spots
and
highly
dense
areas
like
Upper
King,
Street,
again
more
to
come
on
that
to
council
member
Greg's
great
Delight.
We
took
up
the
Fairchild
at
River,
Landing
intersection,
Improvement
project
and
passed
it
unanimously.
P
I
don't
know
if
he
wants
to
comment
on
that,
but
some
good
things
coming
to
Daniel
Island
and
then
finally,
we
took
up
an
ordinance
to
amend
chapter
21
of
the
City
of
Charleston
Code
and
pass
that
unanimously.
So
unless
there's
any
questions,
oh
we
deferred
it.
I'm
sorry
I
referred
it
I
apologize
and
that
was
at
council
member
Shades
request.
That's
the
truck
parking
ordinance.
It
came
before
us.
P
We
want
to
make
sure
councilmember
shade,
gets
his
input
onto
it
and
maybe
look
at
a
couple
of
the
exceptions
that
were
built
in
there.
So
we
deferred
it
to
the
next
meeting,
to
give
councilmember
shade
a
chance
to
appear
and
for
us
to
maybe
think
about
the
language
so
I
apologize
about
that.
That
is
where
we
are
so
with
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
and
that
is
for
now
anyway,.
H
P
What
just
so
you
know
our
legal
department
did
exactly
as
asked
they
did
present
to
us
a
proposed
ordinance.
We
just
wanted
to
make
sure
councilmember
shade
had
a
busy
day
last
Tuesday.
We
want
to
make
sure
he
gets
before
the
committee
to
pitch
it
and
then
we'll
we'll
take
it
out.
Thank
you.
Councilmember.
I
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
heard
I
said
the
city
state,
Street
Maintenance,
and
what
we
own,
what
we
don't
that's,
including
streets
in
West
Ashley
as
well.
The.
P
I
I
can
just
report
to
council
that
the
discussion
we're
having
about
the
squad
of
trucks
has
gotten
attention
to
a
lot
of
folks
and
it's
improving
even
by
us
just
having
this
discussion
so
we're
making
some
Headway
on
it,
but
we
got
to
get
this
ordinance
right
and
get
this
ordinance
passed.
Thank
you
all
for
your
work.
Thank
you.
Councilman
Parker.
R
P
We
we've
got
it
we'll,
make
sure,
let's
get
it
out
Robbie
to
everybody
just
so
they
can
see
it.
It's
it's
fascinating
when
you
listen
by
the
way,
the
further
you
get
off
the
peninsula
more
roads,
we
actually
own
yeah
so
because
of
the
recent
development.
R
Daily
daily
struggle
yeah,
but
another
just
one
last
thing:
sorry
to
keep
you
I
do
just
want
to
say
that
the
Calhoun
Street
repairs
I
have
heard
from
more
and
more
people
in
the
past
week
or
two
the
repairs
in
front
of
Roper
I.
You
know
I,
don't
know
who
did
it
I,
don't
know
who's
taking
credit
for
it,
but
that
is
something
long
overdue
and
people
are
grateful.
Let's
keep
it
going.
B
Oh
so
mayor
Riley
advised
me
to
take
credit
for
something
whether
you
did
it
or
not,
because
they're
going
to
blame
you
for
everything,
so
councilmember
Parker
you're,
you
you
get
the.
S
Shealy
yeah
are
those
Maps
available
on.
Are
they
accessible
online
or
can
they
be
accessible
online
for
all.
P
Of
us
to
see
the
answer
is
yes,
it's
hard
to
dig
them
out,
we'll
make
them
accessible
through
Robbie's
site
and
we'll
send
everybody
a
copy
tomorrow.
Great.
Q
Member
Appel
and
since
I
can't
help
myself
when
we
get
a
clear
picture
of
all
the
roads
that
the
city
owns
we're
going
to
need
to
have
some
funding
to
do
some
things
with
them.
Q
So
if
you
haven't
already
put
this
on
your
calendar,
please
tune
in
to
the
next
meeting
of
the
budget
ad
hoc
committee,
we're
going
to
be
discussing
potential
new
fees
under
some
recent
State
legislation
among,
among
other
things,
a
road
maintenance
fee
which
the
Supreme
Court
has
upheld,
or
rather
the
Supreme
Court
originally
struck
down
in
the
legislature,
indicated
that
they
would
be
allowed
moving
forward.
Q
And
so
this
is
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
have
a
dedicated,
Revenue
stream
to
help
actually
do
some
of
the
road
Improvement
measures
that
councilman
saccharin
talked
about
and
I
think
we
can
all
talk
about
in
our
respective
districts.
So
the
funding
piece
is
an
important
piece
of
the
puzzle
and
we're
going
to
be
making
some
progress
on
that,
hopefully
at
our
next
budget
ad
hoc
committee
meeting.
Thank
you.
H
Yeah,
so
you
will
have
a
cost
benefit
analysis
with
regard
to
the
roads
in
the
streets.
So
just
just
to
piggyback
on
on
council
member,
the.
P
Answer
to
that
is
no,
but
it
doesn't
mean
we
don't
care
because
we
do.
What
we're
trying
to
Cobble
together
is
what
the
actual
carry
cost
is
for
the
roads
that
we
do
own.
That's
the
objective
it's
going
to
take
some
time
to
do,
but
we
will
keep
working
towards
getting
that
metric
for
you.
So.
P
State-Owned,
well,
let
me
just
give
you
an
example
of
kind
of
how
this
came
to
pass
and
where
we
are,
we
have
traditionally
in
the
city
owned
roads,
two
ways
by
expansion
and
development
through
roads
that
are
built
in
subdivisions
or
by
necessity
and
I'll.
Give
you
two
examples:
one
the
corner
of
Bennett
and
Rutledge,
which
is
in
my
district,
where
we
wanted
to
put
a
stop
sign.
Rutledge
there
was
a
D.O.T
Road
and
they
did
it
didn't
meet
their
criteria.
P
One
second
bigger
example-
is
Murray
Boulevard
and
the
low
battery
sea
wall
in
order
to
build
a
low
battery
sea
wall
and
re-re-build
the
road
and
all
the
utilities
below
it,
we
would
have
had
to
meet
dot
standards
and
specs
and
codes
if
we
kept
the
ownership
with
the
dot
rather
than
taking
ownership
back
and
one
of
the
things
that
the
dot
doesn't
allow
is
utilities
underneath
the
road.
Well,
that
would
be
impossible
for
us
for
drainage
and
for
sewer
and
all
the
hookups
along
there.
So
we
took
Murray
Boulevard
back.
P
What
we're
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
is
what
it
actually
costs
us
to
own
a
particular
Road
like
Cannon
Street,
we
own
the
block
of
Canada
Street
in
front
of
the
fire
station,
the
next
block
over
between
Phillip
and
coming
Street.
We
don't
own
it,
so
the
practicalities
of
it
in
terms
of
future
projects
and
the
cost
of
carry.
P
H
B
B
Finished
mayor
with
y'all
and
because
I
asked
GIS
when
this
matter
came
up
to
do
a
a
fresh
review
of
how
many
streets
in
the
city
are
city,
streets
versus
dot,
because
when
I
came
into
office
and
asked
a
question,
the
the
ballpark
number
that
was
given
to
me
in
the
City
of
Charleston
about
80
percent
of
the
streets
were
D.O.T
and
about
20
percent
were
city
streets.
Well,
what
has
happened
over
time
is
we've
accepted
more
streets
as
council
member
seeking
to
described,
but
also
over
time.
B
We've
accepted
a
lot
of
neighborhood
streams,
all
these
new
neighborhood
streets,
all
these
new
neighborhoods
John's
Island
Daniel
Island
new
neighborhoods,
particularly
in
the
suburbs.
All
those
streets
are
city
streets.
We
accepted
them
when
they
were
built
to
our
specification.
So
we
have
to
maintain
them
long
term.
B
So
anyway,
they
they
did
a
ballpark
and
rather
than
20
percent
of
the
streets
in
our
city,
being
city
streets,
it's
more
like
45
percent,
so
in
I
think
in
relatively
short
order,
you'd
be
able
to
say
about
half
of
the
streets
within
our
city
or
city
streets,
and
we
have
a
responsibility
to
maintain
them
and
we
have
absolutely
no
source
of
income
dedicated
to
Street
and
Highway
and
crosswalks
and
sidewalk
maintenance.
And
so
it's
something
that
this
Council
definitely
will
have
to
address.
Right
and
I
suggest
that
we
do
it
this
year.
H
Mayor,
yes,
I
mean
a
bit
of
good
news.
You
know
I
think,
thanks
to
councilman
sachrin,
we
now
have
a
crossing
guard
at
the
corner
of
Grove
and
King
I.
Don't
know
whether
or
not
the
other
intersections
also
have
them,
but
we
do
have
a
crossing
guard
at
the
corner
of
Grove
and
King
and
I
want
to
thank
councilman
sachman
for
his
efforts
in
that
area.
I
I
We
cannot
get
the
traffic
speed
limit
reduced
because
it
doesn't
meet,
as
you
pointed
out,
councilman
seekings
the
criteria,
even
though
that
road
is
totally
surrounded
by
residential
community,
so
that
I
applaud
what
you
were
doing,
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
to
further
that.
Thank
you
for
your
report.
T
Councilmember
Greg
I
can't
listen
to
that.
Sorry,
just
so
we're
all
aware.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
this,
but
it
costs
about
250
000
to
repave
one
mile
of
a
road
in
good
condition.
So
as
we
think
about
taking
ownership
of
some
of
these
roads,
250
000
using
current
dot
funding
Cycles
the
the
South
Carolina
DOT
is
on
a
100
year,
repaving
cycle.
So
think
about
that.
T
P
So,
just
very
briefly
to
councilmember
Greg's
point
is
right:
it's
very
expensive
to
pave
we
own
a
lot
of
roads,
that
we
don't
pay,
we
don't
do
Paving
and
the
county
and
the
dot
still
does
Paving
through
some
obligations.
They've
got
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
get
a
real
handle
on
just
because
we've
taken
ownership
of
some
of
these
roads,
we're
not
Paving
them.
I
mean
others
are
with
our
money.
By
the
way
I
mean
to
have
some
sales
tax
is
collected,
it's
our
money
that
we
spend
in
there.
P
So
again,
that's
this
is
the
very
nascent
stages
of
a
process
to
really
get
a
handle
on
what
we
own,
what
it
costs
us
and
what
the
long-term
prospects
are.
If
we
start
taking
things
back,
so
we
can
do
things
like
build
low
battery,
put
a
stop
sign
up,
lower
speed
limits
and
all
the
common
sense
things
we'd
like
to
do
that.
We
don't
get
to
do
because
we
are
under
a
separate
set
of
rules
right,
so
I.
H
M
B
Other
questions
comments
All
in
paper,
please
say
aye
any
oppose
the
odds
have
it.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
Thank
you,
council
member,
60
Kings.
We
hope
all
is
well.
Thank
you.
So
now,
back
to
our
section
on
petition
petitions
and
Communications,
we
have
three
items
up.
First
is
a
report,
as
mentioned
earlier
from
Adrian
Swinton
who's,
our
manager
of
the
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation.
Commission
Adrian.
Would
you
come
forward
as
she's
coming
forward
and
just
a
last
tidbit
councilmember
Greg.
B
G
G
So
just
a
little
background.
Council
may
already
know,
but
for
those
who
are
listening
in
and
those
who
are
here
on
June
9th
2020,
the
mayor
and
city
council
voted
to
create
the
special
commissions
for
Equity
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
This
commission
was
charged
with
demanding
systematic
racism
when
it
comes
to
a
policy
level.
The
commissions
the
commission
consists
of
six
council
members
and
over
40
volunteers.
G
They
were
divided
up
into
seven
subcommittees
and
those
were
Criminal
Justice,
Reform,
economic
empowerment,
Health
disparities
and
environmental
justice,
history
and
culture,
housing
and
Mobility
internal
review
and
youth
and
education.
That
report
totaled
over
100
recommendations,
the
special
commissions
who
was
recognized
here
today.
There
are
several
others
who
weren't
here,
but
we
want
to
acknowledge
the
leadership
city
council
members
were
those
six
and
the
co-chairs
for
the
whole
commission
was
council,
member
William
Gregory,
along
with
council
member
Jason
sakron.
G
We
have
formal
council
member
Carol,
Jackson
Marie
del
Chapo
and
councilman
Ross
Appel
and
councilman
Keith
weary
community
members
were
also
there,
but
we
had
leads
for
each
of
the
seven
subcommittees.
So
housing
and
Mobility
was
Tracy.
Durham
economic
empowerment
was
Alvin,
T
Johnson
Jr
Health
disparities
in
environmental
justice
was
Dr,
Kimberly,
B,
Willis,
Criminal,
Justice
Reform
was
Jerome.
Jerry
Harris
in
taking
the
lead
for
youth
in
education
was
crystal
Robertson.
Rouse
history
and
culture
was
Dr,
Dr
Knight,
Felice
Knight,
an
internal
review
was
Darren
Lee,
Calhoun
II.
G
We
also
thank
you
for
the
leadership
that
transitioned
into
the
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation.
Commission
heart
so
in
February,
9,
2022,
Charleston,
City
Council
established
hark
as
a
permanent
Commission.
This
is
our
current
members.
Our
co-chairs,
our
councilman
Jason
sakron,
along
with
Mr
Jerry
Harris
councilman
Stephen
Bowden
councilman,
Michael,
seekings,
Bonnie,
Cleveland,
Carol,
Frye,
Alvin,
T,
Johnson,
former
councilwoman
Carol
Jackson,
Robert,
Bob,
Simmons,
Kim
long
and
recently
appointed
Reverend,
Dr
Adam
Shoemaker.
G
This
compiles
the
heart
Council
and
we
have
a
very
diverse
group.
We
had
several
focal
areas
so
the
way
we
approached
this
as
councilman
Gregory
stated,
we
saw
the
city
plan.
The
city
plan
has
an
element
of
equity
and
resilience
component
to
it,
and
so
we
reviewed
the
special
commissions
for
intersectionality
for
the
city
plan
and
we
prioritize
three
areas.
It
was
economic,
empowerment,
housing
and
mobility
and
Criminal
Justice
Reform
we
looked
for
the
intersections
and
then
we
created
the
work
groups.
G
Work
groups
met,
did
recommendations
via
the
progress
report
that
was
distributed
to
council
the
recommendations.
We
ask
that
you
are
going
to
review
the
recommendations
and
it
is
very
important
and
vital
that
we
get
those
recommendations
to
standing
committees.
It
is
only
when
we
operate
operationalize
when
we're
able
to
implement
those
recommendations.
G
We
are
making
progress
and
we
want
that
progress
to
be
known
and
we
don't
want
it
to
become
stale.
That's
why
you
must
go
to
standing
committees.
I'll
show
you
an
example
of
that.
For
example,
Transportation
the
city
plan
States
work
to
improve
access
to
comfort
of
the
Carter
stations
in
the
City
of
Charleston,
through
connections
with
neighborhoods
and
expanding
the
street
furniture
and
other
amenities
provided
at
stops.
That's
what
the
city
plan
said.
G
So
the
special
commission's
recommendation
that
align
right
with
the
city
plan,
just
in
different
wordings,
stated
collect
and
analyze
more
area,
specific
data
to
pinpoint
the
locations
and
neighborhoods,
which
would
benefit
from
increased
streetscaping
lighting
and
right
ways
in
order
to
properly
access
Mobility
needs
across
the
city.
The
progress
that
we've
made
with
this
is
Park
had
a
presentation
done
by
Morgan,
Grimes
and
Morgan.
G
Is
the
community
outreach
coordinator
for
vcd
Cog
and
she
does
it
for
also
the
neighboring
jurisdictions,
so
she
was
able
to
incorporate
and
collaborate
with
Hark,
and
we
will
also
be
a
part
of
those
conversations
moving
forward
and
we
are
working
with
them
in
neighboring
jurisdictions
to
advance
existing
plans
to
provide
water
taxi
high-speed
Fury
systems
as
a
public
transport
Transit
option.
G
G
G
These
are
the
goals
we
have.
Our
next
review
will
be
July
2023.
The
recommendations
from
the
three
be
passed
through
Council
City
progress
report
for
cultural
history
and
internal
review
be
disseminated
to
city
council
for
discussion.
We
want
to
increase
the
engagement
and
the
retention
for
the
racial
Equity
Core
Group.
The
racial
Equity
Core
group
is
essential
for
the
city
because
it
represents
each
department
of
the
city.
We
are
working
towards
breaking
down
silos
and
creating
Partnerships
and
collaboration.
G
So
that
is
very
important
to
understand
what
department
has
what
culture
and
what
they're
working
on,
because
we
don't
want
to
speak
on
some
work
that
we're
not
sure
of,
and
we
want
to
see
if
we
have
an
opportunity
for
collaboration
and
also
develop
a
dashboard.
We've
been
working
on
our
website
and
that
is
updated,
but
we
need
a
way
of
tracking
how
these
systems
are
working
and
what
would
benefit
us
when
it
comes
to
racial,
Justice
and
racial
equity.
G
So
a
couple
of
my
updates-
many
of
you
may
not
have
known
me
before
here,
but
I
worked
at
MUSC
and
I
worked
in
the
office
of
equity.
So
what
is
important
to
me
is
collaboration
when
it
comes
to
internal
and
external
I
have
done
this
with
many
Partnerships,
so
internally,
I
work
with
the
office
of
innovation,
Housing
and
Community
Development
minority
business,
Enterprise
office,
the
mayor
office
for
children,
youth
and
children.
G
Cpd
and
I
also
have
standing
meetings
with
the
procedural
Justice
director
Jillian
Edison,
who
also
did
a
presentation
about
traffic
stops
at
our
last
Heart
Meeting
Human
Resources
when
it
comes
to
onboarding
and
creating
the
Dei
video,
so
that
everyone
can
see
that
that
is
a
pillar
here
with
the
City
of
Charleston
planning
and
perseverance
preservation
and
sustainability
also
take
a
lead
in
the
racial
Equity
Core
Group
externally
I
have
worked
with
those
leadership
over
in
Charleston
County
diversity,
Equity
inclusion,
the
Low
Country
black
cultural
Network,
I'm
on
the
advisory
committee.
G
There,
the
Sophia
Institute
doing
racial
healing
circles,
Charleston
Metro
Chamber
of
Commerce
I'm
on
the
steering
committee,
as
we
will
have
our
first
Dei
festival
happening
in
2023
this
year
and
I
also
think
it
is
fundamental
to
meet
with
those
Community
leaders
doing
presentations.
I
was
privileged
to
have
done
a
presentation
with
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
during
their
orientation
from
sub-recipients.
The
commission
on
women,
minority
Women,
Business
Enterprise
board
retreat
center
for
creation,
creative
retirement
that
is
associated
with
the
College
of
Charleston
and
the
association
for
study
of
African-American
life
in
history.
Awesome.
B
So
oh
Council
membersack.
F
No
questions
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
Adrian
for
for
the
update.
It's
been
tremendously
helpful
to
see
the
progress
not
just
because
I'm
a
chair
but
I
feel,
like
fellow
council
members,
probably
want
to
know,
what's
been
going
on
so
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
for
that,
and,
and
one
thing
I
just
want
to
emphasize
that
was
embedded
in
this
is
for
the
chairs
of
our
committees,
particularly
Public
Safety,
Community,
Development,
traffic
and
transportation.
F
F
This
effort
is
not
going
to
to
come
to
fruition
unless
we
take
what
we're
talking
about
in
theory
on
a
paper
and
bringing
it
to
actual
action
and
legislative
change.
So
I
just
want
to
let
you
all
know
that
those
will
be
coming
and
we
encourage
you
to
have
healthy
debate,
but
they're
coming
your
way.
B
All
right,
thank
you.
Anyone
else
well,
thank
you,
Adrian!
Thank
you.
We
are
so
glad
to
have
you
as
part
of
the
City
of
Charleston
team.
We
we
hate
it
for
MUSC
that
you
had
that
you
left
them,
but
we're
so
glad
to
have
you
here
and
you're
doing
a
great
job.
Keep
it
up.
B
So
next
up
we
have
a
report
on
our
climate
action
plan
and
other
matters
of
the
resiliency
and
sustainability
advisory
committee
by
Katie,
McCain
Katie,
good.
B
U
There
we
go.
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
jackenberg
good
evening.
I
just
have
a
brief
report
from
our
latest
resiliency
and
sustainability
advisory
committee
meeting,
which
was
on
February
2nd.
We
had
11
of
13
members
present
the
first
item
on
the
agenda.
Dale
Morris
gave
a
lot
of
updates
on
some
resilience
projects.
He
keeps
you
very
well
informed.
On
those
and
I
know,
you
have
some
workshops
on
them,
so
I
won't
go
into
great
detail
on
them.
U
U
So
they
have
the
electrical
panel
capacity
and
conduit
and
wiring
to
to
add
the
charging
stations
in
the
future
and
we're
facing
that
right
now
in
our
city
garages.
So
the
committee
at
this
point
reviewed
a
draft
policy
for
this,
and
we
will
we
look
forward
to
continuing
discussions
with
the
development
community
and
welcome
anyone
who's
interested
in
providing
input
to
improve
that
ordinance
to
contact
us
and
that's
all
any.
R
As
much
as
a
question,
just
thank
you,
Katie
I
mean
you
are
I
can
come
to
I
can
call
you
email
me
with
a
threat
of
an
idea
and
you
can
take
it
and
move
it
all
forward
and
you've
done
that
for
me
multiple
times
and
I
appreciate
it.
James
Island
appreciates
all
that
you're
good.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
V
Before
Katie
leave
the
microphone,
we
had
a
meeting
about
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
part
of
her
process
when
some
of
these
lots
that
the
city
acquires
because
continuously
flooding
some
of
the
alternative
uses
when
we
turn
them
into
Victory,
Gardens
or
rain.
V
Gardens
and
the
light
proportion
of
the
budget
that
we
passed
cut
her
out,
it's
a
small
amount.
So
when
we
do
mid-year
budget
adjustments,
it
may
be
as
much
as
ten
thousand
dollars
I'm
looking
over
at
our
CFO,
he
has
a
way
of
pulling
rabbits
out
a
hat
instead
of
waiting
until
the
following
fiscal
year.
I
think
it
may
be
a
way
to
help
with
funding
this
year
on
some
of
those
alternative
uses
to
help
kids
kids
families
involved.
V
B
B
I
Know,
based
on
what
councilman
just
brought
up,
why
are
we
having
Katie
report
to
the
public
works
utilities
committee
more
frequently,
yeah
I
I
mean
just
what
you
just
said.
It's
an
important
I'm,
totally
overlooked
it
and
I
think
on
things
that
you
have
brought
to
our
attention
that
fits
right
into
what
we're
doing
with
stormwater
and
public
utilities
and
works,
and
let's
get
you
one
of
our
committee
from
time
to
time.
V
A
B
You
Katie
appreciate
it
good
work,
okay.
Lastly,
Amy
Wharton
is
going
to
make
a
report
on
our
Citizen
Services
desk.
W
Good
evening,
everyone,
okay,
this
will
be
brief.
Just
a
quick
outline
of
our
Citizen
Services
Citizen
Services
is
a
non-emergency
hotline
for
City,
Services
and
information.
We
formed
it
in
mid-year
2018.
It
has
five
staff
members
and
it's
an
easy
way
for
our
citizens
to
report
a
problem
request:
a
service
of
complaint,
any
City
function
that
they
have
in
one
unified,
Place
single
point
in
contact
any
questions.
W
Sorry,
there
are
three
I
I
really
do.
I
I
really
really
do
three
ways
that
citizens
can
contact
Citizen,
Services
it's
online
and
that's
the
the
address
by
phone
which
the
mayor
just
said,
the
number
and
then
by
email
as
well
technology.
So
Cisco
is
a
call
center
module
that
with
workflows.
W
That's
what
everybody
calls
into
gov
QA
is
a
customer
request
management
system
and
that's
used
to
track
all
of
the
requests
received
through
the
call
center
GIS
online
Maps
interactive
web
applications,
which
I'm
sure
all
of
you
use
our
GIS,
often
as
well
City
app
mobile
app,
which
allows
customers
to
submit
requests,
and
then
we
have
citybot
as
well,
which
is
another
app
that
our
customers
can
utilize
and
2022
Citizen
Services
handled
72
617
calls
that's
an
average
of
six
about
six
thousand
calls
per
month.
W
Average
talk
time
of
one
minute
and
24
seconds
and
average
hold
time
was
20
seconds.
88
of
those
calls
were
handled
by
our
staff
immediately
they're
easy
questions,
questions
that
are
easily
answered,
not
necessarily
easy
questions.
I
said
that
wrong.
Sorry,
and
then
you
know
some
of
it's
just
forwarding
it
on
to
other
jurisdictions.
Etc
request,
type
of
frequency,
16,
302
service
requests
were
entered
into
gov
QA
and
all
of
those
are
assigned
to
a
department
for
some
type
of
response.
W
8141
were
generated
through
the
online
portal
and
then
the
remaining
come
from
various
sources.
Direct
reports
by
City
staff
customer
comment
cards,
emails,
City,
app
Etc,
the
top
10
requests
were
I'll,
just
I'll
just
read
out
the
top
three
which
are
Garber
can
requests
and
complaints
garbage
not
collected
and
broken
malfunctioning,
parking
meters
and
then
trash
not
collected.
Those
were
the
highest
volume
of
calls,
and
then
you
can
see
the
rest
of
them
that
were
minimal.
W
So
our
service
level
agreement
is
to
respond
to
requests
within
one
business
day.
This
does
not
mean
that
the
that
it's
completed
it
just
means
that
somebody
has
to
respond
to
it
within
one
day,
our
our
SLA
was
72
percent,
so
that
means
17
were
responded
to
within
one
day
and
we're
currently
looking
at
our
SLA
and
how
to
better
track
it
developing
realistic
timelines
for
when
things
should
be
completed
and
actually
tracking
the
completion
time.
H
Mean
we
use
it,
we
use
this
system.
Can
you
still
track
status,
yeah,
Status,
right.
M
W
F
Member
SackMan
just
just
very
quickly,
thank
you,
Amy
number
one.
It's
amazing
that
it
wasn't
until
2018.
We
did
this.
So
thank
you
mayor
and
the
rest
of
the
team.
It's
been
helpful
for
our
council
member,
especially
new
council
members.
A
lot
of
the
questions
I
get
can
really
be
directed
to
this
service
and
then
the
last
piece
I'm
glad
to
see
and
the
top
rated
questions.
The
number
one
question
wasn't:
who
is
my
council
member.
B
But
I
I
find
it
amazing
y'all
that
sick
over
16
000
actual
work
orders
you
know
have,
in
a
year's
time
get
put
in
for
everything,
from
repairing
a
sidewalk
to
a
pothole
to
picking
up
the
trash
or
repairing,
a
or
replacing
a
cart,
a
trash
cart
and
how
we
manage
with
it
before
we
had
these
wonderful
folks
answering
these
calls,
and
they
do
it
so
politely
by
the
way:
they're
they're
kind
of
supervised
immediately
by
Brian,
Shaheen
who's,
our
city,
Ombudsman
and,
and
then
during
emergencies
like
when
we
have
a
hurricane
coming
through
town
and
we're
taking
emergency
calls
they're,
actually
open,
24
7
taking
calls
you
know
in
our
emergency
response.
B
So
so
so
these
employees
even
do
more
than
just
this
8
our
day.
Whenever
the
need
arises,
we
we
have
that
call
center
unit
that
we
can
use
for
other
purposes
as
well,
they're,
very
responsive
and
I.
Think
all
of
y'all
use
them.
Sometimes
it's
easier
just
to
tell
our
citizens.
Oh,
you
got
a
little
something
you
need
to
report
just
go
ahead
and
call
843-724-7311,
and
that
way
it
gets
entered
into
the
system
and
gets
tracked.
B
But
I
just
thought,
at
least
on
an
annual
basis
that
we
should
share
these
numbers
with
y'all
and
let
you
know
how
many
calls
we're
seeing
and
particularly
about
the
categories
as
well,
any
any
other
questions
all
right.
Thank
you.
Amy.
B
It
very
much
so
we
had
our
TNT
committee
already,
so
we
can
go
next
to
our
Committee
on
Public
Safety,
Council
member
shade.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
the
Committee
of
Public
Safety
mid
yesterday
afternoon
at
two
o'clock.
The
first
order
of
business
was
the
approval
of
an
amended
ordinance
dealing
with
noise
from
soundtracks.
This
order
has
dealt
with
the
Apple
vacation
component.
I
That
ordinance
was
that
recommendation
was
passionately
by
our
committee.
As
you
may
know,
if
you
hang
around
Broad
Street
at
any
time,
there
seems
to
be
a
particular
driver
who
travels
up
and
down
Broad
Street
at
certain
hours
of
the
day,
with
his
Amplified
complaint
about
government
of
some
sort,
so
I
think
that
will
help
address
some
of
the
noise
issues
that
have
been
complaining
about
from
that.
I
The
second
we
oh
I'll,
skip
the
racial
bias
audit
in
a
second,
but
the
the
other
consideration
we
need
to
vote
on
was
approval
to
submit
an
application
for
the
fiscal
year
23
for
a
school
resource
officers
that
dealt
with
approving
resource
officers
for
I,
think
three
schools
cheapest
on
the
line
that
was
miminger
School
of
the
Arts
and
what
other
school.
That's
just
left
left
my
attention,
but
this
was
a
grant
to
fund
those
officers
sros
at
those
three
schools,
the
Chiefs
on
the
line.
I
He
can
add
more
comment
to
that
than
I.
Have
then
we'll
go
to
the
racial
bias
audit
report
I
think
we
got
Captain
Catera
available.
Let
me
just
remind
you
very
briefly
that
we
passed
a
social
bias
audit
in
2019.
I
As
of
today,
over
98
percent
of
those
recommendations
have
been
achieved
to
a
compliance
and
37
are
at
full
compliance,
but
I'll,
let
as
Captain
caterer
available
online
Chief
and
he
can
act
it
out.
Report
yep.
X
Y
Y
Y
An
example
of
that
would
be
because
one
of
the
recommendations
was
to
add
a
sanctity
of
Life
statement
with
an
applicable
policies,
so
we
did
that
we
had
added
sanctity
of
life
to
two
policies:
a
response
to
resistance
policy
and
also
our
lethal
and
less
lethal
weapons
policy.
So
we
satisfied
that
recommendation,
but
once
again
there
is
nothing
else
for
us
to
do
with
it.
Y
Y
The
last
recommendation
is
for
the
third
party
review
process
and
we
are
happy
to
say
that
after
all,
this
work
over
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
that
we
are
finally
at
a
point
to
announce
that
we
have
identified
a
State
University
that
that
we've
been
in
communication
with
we
are
in
negotiations
with
a
contract,
and
we
are
hoping
to
present
a
formal
contract
to
city
council
by
the
next
meeting
and
get
that
signed
off
on.
Y
So
we
could
progress
with
the
third
party
review
and
those
are
the
way
that
we
classified
all
the
recommendations
and
just
some
further
nuggets
out
there
to
talk
about.
The
importance
of
the
audit
is
over
the
course
of
the
last
year
and
a
half
we've
done.
Roughly
three
press
releases
and
more
interviews
just
to
communicate
with
the
public
where
we
are
with
the
audit.
Y
There
was
conversations
about
creating
a
final
report
or
a
mid-year
report,
and
we
basically
said
that
when
we
create
these
reports,
they
either
end
up
sitting
on
someone's
desks
or
they
end
up
in
an
email
and
it's
really
not
applicable
or
usable.
So
we
created
the
dashboard
with
the
help
of
our
GIS
unit.
They
did
a
phenomenal
job.
We've
updated
it
twice
last
year
and
we
also
added
a
feature
on
there.
That
says
when
it
was
last
updated,
and
that
was
a
recommendation
from
CPAC.
Y
We
listened
with
CPAC
and
their
concern
was
we
don't
know
when
the
last
time
was
updated?
And
you
know
they
had
a
valid
point.
So
we're
able
to
do
that.
We've
also
routinely
presented
CPAC
with
some
updates
throughout
the
course
of
the
year
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
we
added
some
hyperlinks
to
the
dashboard
and
as
we
grow
as
a
department
and
create
more
reports
and
more
ways
to
make
this
audit
successful,
we'll
continue
to
update
it
and
provide
routine
updates.
Y
B
Council
members,
council,
member
Gregory
and
then
councilman
Gregory.
H
It's
not
really
a
question,
but
I
guess
it's
more
of
a
request
and
and
I
do
know
that
we
have
the
dashboard
for
us
to
track
incidents
Etc.
But
is
there
a
way
for
you
to
report
to
at
least
the
Public
Safety
Committee
the
reductions
in
stops
with
regard
that
might
be
racially
motivated
and
and
why
why
I'm
saying
this
is
because
I'm
sure
that
you've
gotten
the
note
from
Cajun,
which
alleges
that
there
are
still
some
issues
that
remain.
H
That
needs
to
be
addressed,
some
of
which
I
think
are
legitimate.
Questions
I,
don't
know
whether
or
not
they
have
any
substance
is
what
I.
My
issue
is
so
at
some
point,
I'd
like
for
the
Public
Safety
Committee,
to
sort
of
give
us
a
report
on
change.
H
Okay,
because
that's
not
what
I've
heard
yet
I've
heard
that
we've
done
the
recommendations,
Etc
et
cetera,
but
have
have.
We
had
any
changes
based
upon
the
allegations
which
caused
us
to
do
the
report,
which,
for
me,
is
a
better
way
for
all
of
us
to
see
whether
or
not
there
in
fact
has
been
changed.
B
Councilmember,
can
we
let
Captain
critella
respond
to
councilmember
Gregory
first
and
then
I'll
call
on
you
actually
councilman
Bowden
was
next
yeah.
Y
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
So,
in
reference
to
your
question,
it's
a
great
question
to
have.
There
were
some
disparities
and
we
finally
got
to
the
point
now
where
we
worked
for
the
last
three
years
to
make
all
of
our
data
essentially
talk
to
one
component.
Prior
to
this,
we
had
the
data
available,
but
you
had
to
take
each
individual
report
and
layer
it
on
top
of
one
another
and
it
was
not
feasible
to
do
so.
Y
We
just
went
through
Geo
29,
which
is
our
constitutional
issues
and
motor
vehicle
stops
policy
that
has
been
through
our
Command
review
process
internally,
we'll
be
presenting
that
to
our
department
within
the
next
weeks,
get
them
fully
trained
on
that
and
then
hopefully,
within
the
next
two
to
three
months,
we
will
have
a
report,
Public
Safety
Committee,
on
what
the
data
was
prior
to
that
and
to
see
if
anything
has
changed
within
those
45
to
60
days
on
week
on
when
we
present
that
material.
Z
Thank
you
and
I'm
gonna
I'm,
gonna
press
you
a
little
bit
on
this
and
I
hate
I,
never
want
to
Ambush
staff.
You
guys
work
hard,
you're
here
late
and
so
I
passed
along
some
of
these
questions
earlier
so
I'd
like
to
know
I
mean
this.
The
racial
bias
audit
is
is
getting
pretty
dated
now
I
mean
this
is
completed
years
ago.
Z
Y
Sir
yeah,
so
in
response
to
that,
as
I
just
stated,
all
of
our
data
sets
just
literally
linked
up
earlier
this
year.
So
we
finally
had
these
reports
and
were
able
to
do
that
and,
like
I
said,
it's
taken
us
a
while,
as
you
know,
in
government,
some
things
take
longer
than
normal,
and
one
of
the
big
key
assets
was
for
us
to
get
a
check
mark
on
our
uniform
traffic
citations,
which
is
unique.
So
we
were
able
to
track
this
data
and
one
might
think
well
how
hard
could
it
be?
Y
But
it's
a
state-owned
system
and
it's
only
applicable
to
the
City
of
Charleston
throughout
the
whole
state
of
South
Carolina
that
almost
took
a
year
to
a
year
and
a
half
to
essentially
get
that
to
the
point
where
we
are
now
and
we
are
finally
having
the
data
come
so
like
I
said
it
literally
just
came
through
probably
around
the
first
of
this
year
that
the
systems
are
able
to
talk
to
one
another.
So
now
that
we
have
that
information
available,
we
have
to
digest
it.
Y
We
have
to
see
if
there
are
any
disparities
and
to
just
check
with
our
policies
and
see
what
our
objectives
are
and,
like
I
said,
hopefully
45
to
60
60
days
from
now
that
we
can
provide
a
report
to
the
Public,
Safety,
Committee
and
I
would
say,
give
an
overall
depiction
of
where
we
are
and
where
we
want
to
be.
If
there
are
any
issues
there.
Z
All
right,
okay,
well
I
I,
would
hope
that
we
could
get
that
specific
question
answered
a
lot
faster.
I
mean
this
entire
racial
bias.
Audit
report
criticized
the
data
keeping
and
and
I
appreciate
the
qualitative
answer
there.
That's
that's
great
information
for
all
of
us.
Certainly
something
I
can
take
back
and
explain
to
my
constituents,
but
I
want
to
hear
numbers.
I
want
to
hear
I
want
to
hear
quantitative
data
that
tells
us
whether
we
are
continuing
to
see
these.
These
disparities
after
the
work
that's
been
done
so
far.
Z
Without
that
data,
we're
fine
we're
fine,
completely
blind,
but
with
all
due
respect,
and
so
a
little
little
disappointed
that
we
can't
have
that
answer
tonight.
I
want
to
move
on
a
little
bit.
What
do
you
all
feel,
as
you
mentioned
partnering
with
a
university,
was-
was
that
the
I
think
we
authorized
some
money
to
continue
a
partnership
with
USC
a
couple
weeks
ago
is
I.
Z
Guess:
are
we
going
to
see
some
information
coming
out
of
that
about
about
what
causes
disparities
and
and
when,
when
can
we
expect
that
sort
of
that
partnership
start
bearing
for.
X
So
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
add
context
to
this,
because
there's
way
more
to
this
than
just
numbers
and
disparity
and
there's
people
in
that
email,
council,
member
Bowden,
with
all
due
respect,
that
kind
of
are
almost
intimating
that
none
of
these
other
things
matter.
It's
only
the
numbers
that
matter
and
to
me
our
policies
do
matter.
Our
culture
matters,
our
training
matters,
the
people
that
we
hire
matter,
the
how
that
we
recruit
them
the
retention
of
our
people
matter.
So
there's
a
lot
more
to
this
than
just
the
numbers.
X
We've
worked
with
Police
Executive
Research
Forum,
a
very
highly
respected
organization
that
I'm
the
vice
president
of
we
work
with
International
Association
of
police
to
use
the
police
major
City
Chiefs,
Association,
we've
hosted
meetings
here,
we've
hosted
Meetings
online
we've
sent
people
to
different
conferences.
X
We've
worked
with
the
association
of
society
of
evidence-based
policing.
One
of
the
just
one
example
of
the
five
areas
that
this
audit
focused
on
is
hiring
and
retention.
If
you
look
around
the
country
as
we
look
around
the
region,
if
you
look
around
the
state,
agencies
are
getting
crushed,
they're
not
able
to
hire.
If
you
look
at
what
happened
in
Memphis,
there
was
failings
in
the
hiring
process.
There
was
failings
in
the
standards.
There
was
failings
on
so
many
different
levels
and
we
actually
become
a
national
model.
X
We've
Incorporated
Partnerships,
as
you
mentioned,
with
USC
with
Clemson
we've
got
our
procedural
Justice
director
position
filled,
which
was
an
extensive
search,
and
it
did
take
time
and
I
said
the
day
that
this
audit
was
done.
It
would
probably
take
us
five
years
to
sort
through
the
data
questions
and
the
data
issues,
and
what
I
will
tell
you
and
I'll
tell
everybody
listening
and
I.
X
I
have
people
pleading
with
me
from
a
lot
of
the
communities
that
are
being
impacted
by
shootings,
violent
crime,
gangs,
retaliation
shootings
and
a
whole
variety
of
other
things
for
more
cops,
more
policing,
more
Partnerships,
and
so
this
is
a
lot
more
than
just
the
numbers.
The
numbers
are
apps,
absolutely
very
important
and
I'll
just
say
that
the
CNA
audit
is
an
ongoing
extensive
body
of
work.
It's
adapted.
We
are
adapting
and
we
are
creating
evidence-based
practices
and
outcomes,
problem,
solving
efforts
and
how
we
police
our
community
and
I'll,
get
to
an
example.
X
Maybe
a
more
concrete
example,
as
Tony
said,
we
just
began
getting
some
of
this
data
in
2021
2022
and
then
current
and
moving
forward,
and
we
have
a
portal
that
was
started
with
the
White
House
data
initiative
under
President
Obama
and
the
committee
and
the
Council
on
policing
well
before
I
got
here
a
very
amazing
practice
of
sharing
data
and
and
I
challenge
you
to
find
many
organizations
in
this
country
that
have
the
extensive
data
that
we
have.
It's
still
not
enough,
there's
still
a
lot
more
that
we
need
to
do.
X
Disparities
do
exist,
we're
closely
examining
we're
asking
ourselves
why?
Why
do
we
police
in
certain
areas?
When
are
we
policing
in
those
areas
where
Who's
involved?
What
can
be
changed,
will
never
abandon
or
deep
police
in
those
communities
that
need
us
the
most
and
I'll
give
an
example
with
traffic.
We
had
significant
issues
with
our
Traffic
Division
and
we
were
very
public
about
some
of
those
problems
that
existed
and
about
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done
since
then.
X
To
do
more
with
traffic
and
I'll
tell
you
I
talk
about
the
three
E's
people
get
tired
of
me.
He
probably
talking
about
it:
engineering
enforcement
and
education
enforcements,
but
one
small
piece
of
the
equation
of
traffic.
The
number
one
complaint
in
every
community
in
our
city
in
every
region
in
this
country
is
traffic.
X
It's
a
significant
problem
and
in
our
city,
alcohol-related
fatalities
were
a
very
significant
problem,
and
so
we
focused
on
that
with
our
Traffic
Division
on
the
areas
where
the
highest
number
of
fatalities,
injuries
and
personal,
damn
property
damage
or
the
quality
of
life
complaints
were
and
where
assorted
of
other
issues
were
occurring
this
past
year.
As
a
result,
our
DUI
enforcement
efforts
and
a
variety
of
other
things
have
increased
and
the
alcohol
related
fatalities
have
plummeted.
The
the
the
the
the
bottom
chopped
out,
the
numbers
of
alcohol
related
effect
fatalities
are
significantly
lower.
X
Just
last
week
we
talked
about
in
our
citizens.
Police,
advisory,
Council
and
I
have
to
say
these
things,
because
there's
been
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
put
into
this
by
a
lot
of
people,
and
we
have
done
a
lot
with
this
audit
and
we
will
continue
to
do
a
lot
to
make
sure
that
we
get
to
the
right
place.
We're
not
there
yet,
but
we
talked
about
traffic
stops
openly,
invited
the
whole
Community.
X
We
we
announced
it
through
the
media
and
a
whole
variety
of
other
areas
of
why,
when
and
where
we
do,
traffic
stops
how
we
doing
what
to
expect
what
our
policies
are,
what
our
trainings
are,
what
our
outcomes
are.
We
continue
to
do
a
lot
of
police
citizens
advisory
academies.
I
would
encourage
you
to
participate
in
that
numerous
other
council
members
have
and
we
are
redefining
what
good
police
work
looks
like
it
honors
and
respects
all.
X
It's
lasting
change
and
it's
focused
on
outcomes
and
I
will
tell
you
we
want
to
answer
those
questions
and
we
can't
answer
them
all
tonight.
I
share
those
questions,
I'm
very
passionate
about
it
and
we
continue
to
drill
down,
but
it's
not
as
simple
as
a
lot
of
people
want
to
make
it
and
I'll
stop
there.
B
So
did
you
have
a
follow-up.
Z
I
do
and
I'm
actually
and
I
appreciate
all
that
information
and
I
have
been
clear
with
anybody
who
has
asked
that
CPD
is
second
to
none.
As
far
as
police
organizations
go
I
think
we
lead
in
this
area.
I
think
we
believe
in
this
region
and
and
I
appreciate
everything
that
you
just
said:
Chief
Reynolds,
with
the
exception
of
criticizing
the
community
members
who
are
asking
these
questions
as
demanding
deep
policing.
Z
It's
it's
a
it's
a
frustrating
implication,
but
to
me
as
a
as
a
policy
maker,
I
appreciate
that
you're
changing
policies
and
I
want
to
know
about
that.
But
what
I?
Z
What
I
cannot
make
decisions
on
is
is
qualitative
information
that
is
completely
devoid
of
the
data
nobody's
asking
to
make
nobody's,
asking
anybody
to
to
manipulate
the
numbers
or
try
to
achieve
a
a
particular
outcome
that
makes
us
less
safe
that
make
the
numbers
bear
out
a
certain
thing
that
makes
us
less
safe
and
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
being
made
perfectly
clear.
I
simply
want
to
know
what
the
what
the
data
shows
have
we
gone
far
enough.
Z
X
And
let
me
just
say
anybody
who
has
any
questions
I
would
never
criticize
I
think
those
are
great
questions,
I,
think
they're,
questions
that
have
come
to
us
from
day
one
and
we're
embracing
those
questions,
and
we
want
to
get
better
answers
and
we
want
to
get
better
outcomes
so
I'm,
not
criticizing
anybody.
F
You
mayor
I,
do
have
a
question
for
Captain
critella.
F
When
will
the
third
party
assessment
cover
each
of
the
four
major
areas
in
the
racial
bias,
audit
and
number
that's
number
one,
and
are
you
going
to
lean
on
some
of
the
community
for
some
of
those
questions
or
forming
the
direction
on
moving
forward
and
I
would
say:
you've
got
a
built-in
commission.
The
heart
commission
led
by
Jerry
Harris
who's,
also
on
CPAC
right
here
to
help
with
that.
So
I
guess.
My
question
initial
question
is:
when
will
the
third
party
assessment
cover
each
of
those
four
major
areas.
Y
Thank
you
councilman.
So
what
we're
looking
at
is
hopefully,
like
I
said
by
the
next
city
council
meeting.
We
could
propose
the
the
contract
and
it'll
be
accepted.
You
know,
what's
accepted,
the
contract
lays
out
everything
that
we're
looking
at
and
there
are
aspects
within
the
contract
that
they
will
be
working
with
CPAC
that
they
will
be
working
with
the
community.
Y
You
know
this
third
party
entities
not
just
going
to
come
in
and
with
close
blinds
and
just
focus
on
straight
CPD.
You
know
part
of
it
was
talking
about
the
community
oriented
policing
practices,
so
they'll
be
charged
with
going
out
in
the
community
and
see
you
know.
Are
we
making
a
difference
in
the
community?
Do
we
have
the
trust
within
the
community?
So
absolutely
we
will
be
working
like
I
said,
with
CPAC
and
with
the
community
as
well.
F
And
I
and
I
realized
that
you
know
this
effort
is
Herculean
in
terms
of
like
collecting
data,
particularly
when
the
data
was
probably
disparate.
Different
sources
was
not
combined
in
one
one
central
location,
but
why
has
it
taken
so
long
to
to
basically
begin
the
third
party
assessment?
Has
it
been
cost.
Y
No,
sir,
so
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
the
third
party
review
would
come
in
and
we
wanted
to
bring
them
into
at
the
very
end,
and
that
was
one
of
the
recommendations.
Actually,
the
last
recommendation
from
CNA
was
to
have
the
third
party
review
come
in
and
actually
assess
each
one
of
the
recommendations,
the
72
of
them
or
the
71
actually
and
just
to
say.
Have
we
met
the
threshold
if
so,
good
job?
Y
If
we
haven't
met
the
threshold,
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
improve
it
or
do
how
do
we
need
to
maintain
it?
You
know,
what's
going
to
be
our
response
to
ensuring
that
we
are
maintaining
it
and
Reporting
it
back
out
to
the
community
and
it
wouldn't
make
sense
on
the
front
end
or
the
middle
one
to
bring
the
third
party
review
in,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
had
enough
of
these
recommendations
fulfilled
to
actually
give
them
some
substance
to
work
with.
B
J
It's
three
months:
three
months,
mayor
from
contract
execution.
G
I
It's
and
I
don't
want
to
use
the
word
nice,
but
it's
important
that
we've
complied
with
certain
components
of
the
of
the
audit,
but
complying
with
certain
components
of
the
audit
does
not
mean
that
we
have
completed
the
job,
because
the
questions
that
you'll
ask
are
the
critical
part,
because
this
isn't
an
ongoing
process,
mainly
a
daily
process.
Just
to
some
extent
do
the
questions
you
asked
about
stops
and
how
does
that?
Compare?
I
Because,
just
because
we've
completed
an
audit
or
checked
off
a
box
on
an
audit
doesn't
mean
that
we
are
quote-unquote
in
compliance
with
what
the
audit
has
recommended.
So
the
work
here
is
never
going
to
be
really
done.
Quite
frankly,
this
is
something
that
we're
going
to
have
to
be
reviewing
on
a
regular
basis
to
to
self-test
ourselves
to
self-evaluate
ourselves.
I
said
what
the
work
the
CPD
is
doing,
they're
committed
to
to
doing
this
they've
exhibited
that,
but
we
do
got
to
give
you
some
numbers
that
you
can
use.
I
So
you
have
available
to
make
the
comparisons
of
where
we
are
where
we
were
where
we
are
and
where
we're
going,
and
that's
really
Critical
with
any
good
audit,
I
think
in
adopting
the
practices
and
there's
some
recommendations
that
do
require
that
we
have
completed
something
that
does
may
not
need
to
be
further
reviewed
and
Captain
crotella
gave
us
some
examples
of
that
doing
the
committed
report,
but
there
are
other
ongoing
components
of
this
audit
that
we
need
to
be
on
top
of
on
a
regular
basis
and
get
back
reports
to
make
sure
that
we
are
continuing
that
compliance
component.
I
If
that
makes
sense
what
I'm,
what
I'm
saying
so
I
think
the
questions
all
raised
have
been
very
good
questions.
They
understand
those
questions
and
we'll
come
back,
hopefully
with
a
report
on
the
third
party
review
contract.
Let
you
know
where
we
stand
with
that
and
then
get
these
this
other
data
app
and
running
that
we
can
answer
some
more
of
these
questions.
But
we
we're
not
done
I
mean
I.
Don't
you
look
at
and
say
we
have
98.5
percent
compliance.
V
V
V
Frankly,
there
was
a
time
when
the
leadership
in
the
room
tried
to
help
stop
all
this
from
happening.
We
wouldn't
have
had
this
conversation
because
they
would
not
have
been
a
racial,
biased
order.
Now
we
leave
in
my
opinion,
we
lead
the
state
in
this
North
Charleston
took
upon
their
racial
bias
audit
because
of
what
the
action
steps
Charleston
did.
Okay
and
we
all
joined
at
the
same
hip
pain.
We
crisscross
Municipal
boundary
lines
all
the
time,
so
we
have
a
professional
police
force
in
Charleston.
V
We
certainly
want
a
professional
police
force
and
Mount
Pleasant
North
Charleston,
Goose,
Creek
Beyond.
Certainly,
the
region
we
travel
every
day,
so
councilman
I
really
applaud
you
to
the
challenging
questions.
You
asked
Cosmic
the
exact
same
thing.
V
This
is
what
councilmember
Gregory
spoke
about
when
he
was
applauding
the
committee
on
racial
equity
and
inclusion.
When
he
said
on
paraphrasing
white
folk.
V
Have
to
change
there
were
times
those
questions
that
you
asked
would
have
never
been
asked.
Councilman
the
same
thing
with
you,
councilman
Sacrament,
and
we
can
all
we
all
get
better
as
a
result
of
that
dialogue
that
took
place
if
the
answers
aren't
readily
available,
we
have
a
professional
police
force.
That's
going
to
do
the
research
and
I
have
a
full
feeling,
confidence,
they're
going
to
report
back
numbers
and
the
numbers
will
be
honest
numbers
and
that's
all
we
want.
If
the
numbers
are
good,
we
want
to
hear
those
of
those
numbers
are
negative.
V
We
want
to
hear
them
as
well,
because
we
have
the
people
to
put
take
the
corrective
action
in
in
place
because
occasion
Cajun
brought
something
called
pre-text
stops
to
this
Council
I.
Think
in
a
five-year
periods,
the
City
of
Charleston,
the
previous
five-year
period
it
had
over
130
000
pre-text
stops
and
in
the
black
community
that's
referred
to
as
driving
while
black
you
actually
get
stopped.
V
No
probable
cause
you
get
pulled
over
and
by
the
way,
that's
not
just
something
in
Charleston.
That's
something!
That's
known
for
one
in
this
country
to
the
other,
in
particular.
Among
African
Americans,
our
chief
has
told
us
that
we
don't
police
like
that
anymore,
but
when
I
asked
the
frankly
the
proof,
the
previous
police
chief,
that
we
got
no
answer,
he
didn't
want
the
question
and
67
percent
of
those
hundred
and
thirty
one
thousand
pre-tech
stops
were
African
Americans
and
we
represent
at
that
time.
V
25
of
the
population
131
000
pre-text
stops.
67
percent
were
African-American,
which
represents
about
25
of
the
population.
That's
what
our
police
force
was
doing.
We
don't
do
that
anymore.
Now,
there's
some
more
questions
and
challenging
changes
that
we
need
to
make.
But
we
are
all
in
this
together.
I've
never
felt
like
that.
Before
that
we
were
in
it
together,
but
we
are
in
this
together
and
on
the
other
side,
we
are
going
to
be
better
results,
so
I
I,
don't
want
anybody
to
walk
out
here
tonight.
V
Thinking
councilman
Bowden
in
the
plot
it
for
what
he
did
the
challenging
questions
that
he
did
all
saccharin
or
Gregory
We're
All
in
This
Together.
V
When
I
saw
what
happened
in
Memphis,
the
other
day,
I
actually
had
a
conversation
with
councilman
I
mean
councilman
Chief
Reynolds,
when
I
saw
that
you
couldn't
tell
me
that
those
guys
hadn't
done
that
before.
V
That
certainly
goes
beyond
color,
but
I
immediately
thought
what
percentage
of
that
police
goes
now.
Those
guys
who
did
were
also
college
graduates
but
I
wonder
what
the
percentage
of
the
police
force
in
Memphis
has
college
degrees
versus
our
college
degree.
I
grew
up
in
this
town
that
there
was
a
time
we
had
a
bully
police
force.
V
That's
a
fact.
In
Charleston
we
had
a
bully
police
force.
We
have
a
professional
police
force
today
and
we
take
pride
in
that.
So
the
good
hard
questions
is
asked
in
the
public
forum
and
I
believe
our
professionals
respond
and
I.
Thank
our
council
members
for
doing
good
work
of
being
good
Council
people
for
the
people
you
represent.
Thank
you.
B
So,
thank
you
all.
If
I
may
just
add
a
comment
or
two
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
better
example
of
the
expression
that
this
is
a
journey
and
not
a
destination
and
when
Captain
critella
reports
that
we've
checked
these
boxes
off.
One
thing
that
he
explained
to
us
that
over
30
of
those
recommendations
are
clearly
recognized
as
annual
recurring
topic,
so
to
speak.
B
That
need
the
numbers
every
year
and
the
review
for
continued
Improvement
and
even
with
the
independent
review
of
of
the
audit
recommendations,
we
already
recognize
that
this
is
an
ongoing
thing
and
council
member
Bowden
I
share
your
frustration
that
it's
taken
so
long
to
get
the
data
synced
to
where
we're
talking
with
the
state
and
all
like
that.
It
I
mean
it's
almost
unfathomable.
Why
that
would
take
so
long.
It
did
so
we're
now
on
a
good
spot,
we're
finally
sink
in
the
information
we're
going.
B
To
Public
Safety
Committee
and
to
this
Council
those
kinds
of
numbers
and
review
of
of
all
those
different
topics,
not
just
traffic
stops
but
show
you
supports,
Etc
that
we
need
to
to
know
those
numbers
and
the
specifics
in
order
to
shape
future
policy
and
that,
along
with
the
review
that
will
hopefully
approve
at
our
next
meetings,
that
they
just
reported
we'll
take
another
three
or
four
months,
I
think
you're
really
going
to
see
it
come
come
together.
That
doesn't
mean
that's
the
end
of
it.
B
I
I
want
to
finish
up
the
report,
but
I
just
want
to
add
to
what
councilman
Memorial
said.
I
wish
I
could
tell
you
councilmember
wearing
that
potential
stops
or
stopping,
but
they
still
very
much
are
existing
and
are
not
with
the
City
of
Charleston
Police
Department,
but
in
our
community
it's
I
deal
with
it
on
a
regular
basis
without
it
deals
within
a
regular
basis,
and
it's
it's
at
undermines
public
trust
and
integrity.
When
those
things
still
occur.
I
I
I
wish
I
could
tell
you
someday
that
will
end,
but
I
just
don't
see
that
on
Horizon
anytime
soon
and
it's
it's
ongoing
for
us
that
we
have
to
do
but
I
I
do
applaud
our
Police
Department
to
our
chief
and
their
leadership.
They
you're
right.
They
are
listening.
They're
they're,
responding
to
the
questions
we've,
but
we've
got
a
lot
more
work
to
do
and
I
think
that
we'll
be
back
with
more
information
and
answers
and
as
long
as
I'm
on
this
Council,
rather
than
this
Administration,
we
will
keep
on
pushing
those
responses.
I
We
did
I
think
we
talked
about
the
school
resource
officers.
Two
two
other
discussion
items
that
we
had.
We
wanted
to
just
highlight
that
the
salute
to
the
blue
banquet
councilman
bashili,
myself,
councilmember
Appel,
attended
that
with
the
mayor.
Of
course,
you
came
a
little
late.
He
was
there.
We.
N
I
See
you
until
later
on
I,
we
didn't
see
you
two
later
on,
so
we
I
think
we
were.
We
were
up
front
in
in
the
room,
but
the
four
of
us
were
there.
It
was
a
wonderful
evening.
It
highlighted
the
accomplishments
of
several
of
our
Charleston
Police
Department
officers
and
civilian
employees.
We
want
to
tip
our
hat
to
Ben
Navarro
into
his
group.
I
They
funded
this
banquet,
which
was
a
first
class
event,
and
it
was
just
a
wonderful
to
be
able
to
sit
with
some
of
these
officers
and
interact
with
them.
Councilman,
repel
and
I
sat
next
to
the
Animal
control
officer,
I
I.
Would
she
wrestles
alligators,
so
I
would
not
wrestle
with
her
at
all.
I
So
it
was
all
really
quite
impressive
and
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
the
second
item
and
you
touch
upon
this
Castle
I'm
wearing
a
little
bit
already
about
the
Memphis
Police
Department,
just
a
sickening
sickening
event:
sequence
of
events,
but
the
mayor
and
I
were
in
communication
with
Chief
Reynolds.
I
When
that
video
was
released,
we
were
prepared
in
the
event
that
there
was
a
riot
I
think
there
were
20
folks
who
showed
up
at
Marion
Square,
either
Friday
or
Saturday
night,
but
we
were
prepared
in
the
event
that
there
was
something
necessary
for
us
to
respond
to
in
case
of
a
bride,
but
we
did
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
what
happened
at
in
Memphis,
and
it
goes
back
to
the
lack
of
training,
the
lack
of
supervision
allowing
these
fellows
and
you
write
cash
more
memory.
I
This
is,
was
not
their
first
rodeo
on
doing
something
like
that.
You
could
tell
by
the
reaction
to
it
and
they
were
even
publicizing
on
and
sharing
videos
of
Mr
Nicholas,
as
he
was
laying
in
the
street
literally
dying
from
his
from
his
wounds
that
evening.
So
we
questioned
the
lack
of
humanity
when
we
see
a
fellow
human
being
doing
something,
that's
terrible
to
another
human
being
and
whether,
when
they're
wearing
a
uniform
and
wearing
a
badge,
it
just
adds
to
this
whole
level
of
where
are
we
in
this
country?
I
Where
are
we
in
this
world?
When
we
see
how
people
just
re
just
disrespect
humanity-
and
it
was
an
awful
event-
hopefully
that
the
city
of
Memphis
reacted
to
it
quickly
and
suspended
those
officers,
arrested
them
charged
them
and
we
could
hopefully
hopefully
learned
more
and
become
better
citizens
of
our
community
because
of
incidents
like
that,
that's
our
report,
man.
We
got
to
pass
the
request
for
the
school
resources
application
and
the
amendment
to
the
noise
audience.
I
still
move.
R
Mr
chairman
just
wanted
to
the
SRO
Grant.
This
I
am
so
excited
to
see
this
I
I
didn't
make
the
public
safety
meeting,
but
this
is
something
that
myself
and
County
council
members
have
received:
requests
for
on
James,
Island
and
I,
so
I
learned
I
had
to
dive
in
and
and
learn
a
lot
about,
sros
and
ssrts,
and
it's
wonderful
what
our
police
department
does
to
step
in
when
the
county,
the
Sheriff's
Office
and
the
and
or
the
school
board
can't
fund
a
full-time
SRO
at
schools.
R
So
this
is
really
exciting.
I
guess
my
question
is:
just
is
three
all
that
we
can
ask
for.
I
No,
this
was
just
a
grant
to
fund
for
those
three
schools
and
it
was
miming
Joe,
James,
Simmons
and
Charleston
Math
and
Science,
but
we
do
have
sros
and
other
schools
throughout
that
are
in
the
jurisdiction
of
the
city,
which
includes
Brooklyn
County
as
well
and
throughout
the
other
city,
schools
and
I.
Think
we
have
them.
I
R
Right,
so
that's
that's
sort
of
my
question
because
we
don't
have.
We
have
some
schools
that
don't
have
a
full-time
SRO,
so
the
ssrt
from
C
from
CPD
fill
in
but
a
lot
of
times
they
travel
to
other
schools.
So
this
may
be,
if
Chief's
still
on
the
phone.
Maybe
he
can.
You
know
I'm
just
curious
if,
if.
X
This
yeah
I
take
your
question.
Your
questions
go
and
council
member
and
and
thank
goodness
we
we
live
here
where
people
want
the
police
and
the
schools
and
I
mean
there's
other
places
around
the
country,
they're
getting
rid
of
their
sros
and
all
kinds
of
crazy
stuff
and
and
the
requests
I
get
here
is
every
school
wants
one
and
we
have
52
approximately
52
schools
and
we
can't
put
an
SRO
in
every
school.
So
could
we
have
asked
for
more
grants
yeah?
X
But
the
question
is:
can
we
actually
put
a
cop
in
every
Elementary,
School
and
and
all
the
different
Charter
Schools
not,
and
that's
why
we
have
the
ssrt
to
find
that
right
balance
and
the
answer
answer
is
we
could
have
put
in
for
more.
We
always
can
I
think
put
in
for
more
they're,
always
wanting
more,
and
we
have
to
find
the
right
balance
with
what
we
have
with
traffic
issues
and
violent
crime
and
just
being
out
in
all
of
our
communities
and
special
events,
etc,
etc.
X
And
so
we
feel
like
we
found
the
right
balance.
We
look
at
it
every
year
and
this
was
a
tweet.
To
add
another
one
at
Charleston,
Math
and
Science,
and
and
that's
where
we
were
able
to
expand
it
a
little
bit
and
and
we
continue
to
meet
with
the
principals
and
you're
right.
They
all
want
an
SRO
I
mean
they
they
they
would
do
anything
to
have
a
full-time
SRO
in
every
school
in
the
county
and
every
school
in
the
city.
X
R
B
Yes,
ma'am
councilmember.
F
Sacrament,
thank
you
mayor.
It's
my
understanding
that
the
school
district
does
contribute
to
to
the
the
funding
for
the
sros
right.
So
it's
a
match
of
some
sort
between
the
city
and
the
school
district.
That's
correct!
Okay!
This.
B
X
B
It's
dozens,
but
it's
the
these
three
were
just
a
supplement
to
a
pretty
good
size
stamp
that
we
had
all
right.
Any
other
questions.
I
need
to
call
the
question,
so
we
can
improve
that
ordinance
on
number
one.
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
United's
habits.
We
have
a
no
okay,
and
so
next
up
is
our
Committee
on
Public
Works
councilmember,
where.
V
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
All
the
actionable
items
on
Public
Works
will
pass
unanimously
and
I've
moved
the
adoption
of
those
items
exactly.
A
B
Terrific,
all
in
any
discussion
or
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
to
your
eyes.
Have
it
now
for
further
explanation?
Well,.
V
Thank
you.
We
had
a
number
of
discussions.
One
I'm
gonna
ask
Mr
Fountain
to
get
with
councilman
shealy
afterwards
in
the
again,
for
the
sake
of
time,
which
dealt
with
the
Glenn
McConnell
and
the
pipe
going
underneath.
I
know,
I,
don't
know
if
you
had
a
chance
to
get
together
on
that,
but
one
I
want
to
highlight
was
the
discussion
regarding
procurement
thresholds
in
this.
V
In
this
city
we
had
been
at
forty
thousand
Thirty,
forty
thousand
for
I,
don't
know
20
years
and
again
back
to
the
same
meeting
that
I
want
to
give
credit
with
creditors.
Do
that
councilwoman
Parker
pulled
without
a
sustainability
committee
on
some
of
the
smaller
projects,
hopefully
being
able
to
move
through
faster
and
more
efficiently.
V
As
a
result
of
that
discussion,
the
I
the
the
problem
arose
again,
which
is
a
rule
several
times
about
why
projects
slow
down
so
much
in
particular
smaller
projects,
but
the
piece
about
increasing
that
threshold
from
forty
thousand
a
hundred
thousand,
but
for
that
meeting
wouldn't
be
on
this
agenda
today
all
but
for
that
meeting
would
not
have
made
it
to
the
ad
hoc
budget
meeting.
V
So
our
staff
is
supposed
to
come
back
with
an
ordinance
to
increase
the
threshold
from
forty
thousand
to
a
hundred
thousand,
which
will
enable
some
of
the
smaller
projects
to
get
through
a
lot
faster.
So
council,
member
Bowen,
you
did
a
good
job.
The
last
time
Council
lady
Parker
did
a
good
good
job.
This
time,
which
move
an
item
that
for
years,
we
all
knew
we
needed
to
do
it,
but
now
it's
taking
an
action
step,
so
I
want
to
give
credit
there.
V
Beyond
that
any
items
on
the
report.
You
all
would
like
me
to
touch
on
that
council
member.
She
yeah.
I
And
thank
you
councilmember
we
did
bring
out.
I
did
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
Lake
Sandhurst.
We
did
talk
about
that
yesterday
in
our
committee.
Just
for
the
council's
information
in
my
district
in
sandhorse
neighborhood,
which
is
off
San
Rittenberg
Boulevard
and
Orange
Grove
Road,
there
is
a
lake
that
was
created
when
the
neighborhood
was
established
back
in
the
1960s.
There
were
about
30
homes
that
are
surrounded
by
the
Slate.
It
was
not
just
a
retention
Pond
Lake,
it
was
a
lake
that
was
deep
people
swam
in
it.
I
People
voted
in.
It
has
a
beautiful
view
from
the
backyards
of
many
of
these
houses,
but
there
are
strong
water
grains
that
fill
into
the
into
this
Lake
and
has
soaked
up.
There's
I've
been
in
contact
with
Mr
Fountain
about
it
and
our
legal
department
about
it.
There
may
be
some
issues
dealing
with
the
condition
of
the
lake
right
now
in
the
city's
responsibility
as
to
maybe
some
maintenance
that
has
to
go
along
with
it.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
out
for
information.
I
At
this
point,
I've
been
with
the
the
folks
they
had
their
own
Association
dealing
with
this
problem
and
I
met
with
them
in
a
lot
last
month,
and
hopefully
we'll
get
some
more
answers
on
how
to
help
them
with
that
those
problems
just
for
information
purposes.
Only
right,
council,
member.
B
S
Yeah,
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor,
Mr,
chairman
I
and
I
know.
Mr
Fountain
is
going
to
talk
to
me.
Afterward
I
just
want
to
ask
the
question.
I
want
to
thank
councilman
Bowden
for
his
questions
that
he
asked
there
as
well,
but
in
committee,
but
I
know
at
one
time
we
were
capping
these
pipes
to
keep
us
to
because
there
were
going
to
be
requirements
and
regulations
and
some
approvals
needed
are
these
different?
S
Are
these
different
requirements
in
the
reason
we
have
to
split
this,
or
did
we
just
decide
not
to
cap
them.
B
B
R
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
and
Mr
chairman,
so
I
I
think
I
might
have
been
a
little
late
to
that
signing
on
to
that
one
I'm,
not
on
the
committee,
but
environmental
services
update
just
curious
about
Staffing.
How
is
it
looking
thank.
V
You
thank
you
for
that
question
because
it
was
one
of
the
shortest
reports.
We've
had
all
year,
everything's
working
fine
on
time
on
everything
and
that
we
compliment
it.
Mr
all
top
and
authors
Mr
O'brien
on
that,
because
you
know
that's
been
a
topic
for
so
much
of
the
previous
year
and
coming
into
this
year,
but
they
have
really
hustled
and
hired
and
gotten
on
time.
Picking
up
our
trash
and
I
can
say
this
personal
experience,
I
can
hear
the
trash
truck
in
my
house
on
the
back
street.
V
V
They
have
also
commented
that
the
pay
raise
has
helped
a
lot
being
able
to
hire
additional
people.
I
mean
pay
reasons
that
we
fought
and
paid
work
and
scratching
added
up
the
calculators.
It's
making
a
difference
with
new
hires
in
that
department,
in
particular,.
R
V
V
I'm
elect
councilman
Pell
answer
that
he
spoke
to
it.
He
spoke
to
eloquently
the
other
yesterday.
Q
So
I
I
encourage
you
to
check
out
the
YouTube
there's
a
there's,
a
really
good
summary
there's
too
much
to
get
into
right
now.
But
you
know:
Dominion
has
a
mandate
from
the
state
PSC
and
they
they
have
to
trim
these
trees
and,
and
the
question
comes
down
to
the
process,
the
coordination,
the
communication
things
of
that
nature.
Q
We
have
a
new
agreement
in
place
between
the
City
of
Charleston
and
Dominion.
It
allows
for
more
care
and
attention
to
be
placed
on
certain
specific
trees.
Mayor
tecklenburg
made
a
very
good
requests
to
the
Dominion
staff
for
them
to
maybe
SP.
You
know,
pay
some
special
care
and
attention
to
some
of
the
oldest
neighborhoods
that
we've
got
in
West
Ashley
and
James
Island
that
have
just
the
best
trees
in
in
the
city,
no
no
offense
to
anybody
else.
Q
But
when
you
talk
about
Riverland
Terrace
and
you
talk
about
old,
Windermere
and
neighborhoods
like
that
you're
talking
about
you
know,
70
80
year
old,
Grand,
trees
and
I
think
there's
an
acknowledgment
on
Dominion's
part
they're
going
to
cooperate
with
us
in
that
respect.
But
a
big
part
of
this
is
is
communication.
Q
I
think
it
falls
upon
all
of
us
on
Council
to
do
what
we
can
to
help
explain
to
our
constituents
the
process,
because
we
all
know
what
happens
when
people
see
these
Cuts
there's
there's
a
natural,
understandable,
visceral
emotional
reaction
to
seeing
Mother
Nature
treated.
That
way-
and
it
probably
goes
back
to
you
know,
you
know
our
evolutionary
past
like
when
we
see
our
environment
getting
handled
like
that.
It's
it's
a
we've
all
seen
the
Facebook
posts
and
the
way
people
react.
Q
I
felt
that
way.
So
so
it's
a
process.
It's
a
Communications
challenge
to
try
to
explain
to
constituents
why
Dominion
is
doing
this.
You
know
it's
important.
They
have
to
do
it
for
a
service,
reliability
perspective,
a
safety
perspective,
things
of
that
nature,
but
but
it
needs
to
be
done
in
a
measured.
You
know
professional,
transparent
way
and
the
reason
we
had
this
item
on
the
agenda
yesterday
was
just
to
make
sure
all
the
different
players
in
the
process.
Q
The
minion,
the
city
council,
we're
all
just
clear
on
all
the
various
components
so
that
when
it's
time
for
the
contractor
to
have
the
chainsaw
in
their
hand,
going
to
cut
a
tree
that
nothing
is
lost
in
communication.
We
have
that
time
out.
So
we
make
sure
we're
following
all
the
procedures,
we're
communicating
properly
and
we're
managing
this.
But
you
know
they
gotta
cut
these
trees,
y'all
and
and
there's
gonna,
be
a
lot
of
people
upset
about
it,
but
we
got
to
manage
it
and
long
term.
Q
We've
got
to
get
much
more
committed
to
getting
power
lines
underground
in
our
neighborhoods,
we've
been
improve
that
process.
I
think
we
still
need
to
you
know,
make
sure
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
fund
those
projects
get
those
projects
moving,
because
that's
ultimately
the
solution
is
to
take
the
issue
off
the
table.
Q
You
know
the
Crescent
in
my
district
Country
Club
2,
both
of
those
neighborhoods
have
done
complete
neighborhood-wide
undergrounding
projects,
wapu
Heights,
is
very
close
to
getting
underground
and
then
old
Windermere
is
moving
its
way
up
the
old
list,
so
we're
doing
these
projects,
but
we
gotta
make
sure
that
we're
continuing
to
fund
and
make
that
process
work
as
as
good
as
it
can
and
then
continue
to
coordinate
with
dominion
and
just
really
make
sure
that
when
they're
going
through
these
neighborhoods
Extra
Care
and
attention
is
being
placed
so
that
we
do
what
we
got
to
do
to
preserve
Dominion
service
reliability,
we're
doing
what
we
can
do
to
maintain
safety,
but
at
the
same
time
we're
you
know
protecting
this
beautiful
natural
resource
that
we
have.
Q
So
that's
it
in
a
nutshell.
I
probably
went
a
little
longer
than
everyone
wanted,
but
it's
an
important
issue
and
we
got
to
keep
our
our
eye
on
the
ball.
Thanks.
V
So
one
other
thing
to
me:
I
had
a
as
part
of
that
conversation.
We
had
a
very
good
idea.
He
asked
Dominion
about
some
of
these
neighborhoods
all
the
neighborhoods
that
have
these
70
80
100
year
old
Grand
trees.
Can
we
ask
for
special
consideration
in
those
areas,
but
one
of
the
things
when
the
mayor
brought
that
up
council
member
Powell
came
up
with,
but
maybe
we
can
come
up
with
just
undergrounding
short
distances.
You
know
you.
V
If
you
got
I,
don't
know
20
grand
oak
trees
on
a
particular
Street
underground
in
that
portion
and
then
coming
back
up
on
the
other
line,
as
opposed
to
coming
these
V
Cuts
I
actually
think
that
was
a
very
good
idea.
It
should
turn
into
an
action
step
and
now
what?
What's
that
build
with
the
fee
income?
Maybe
we
can
generate
additional
fee
income
to
preserve
our
older
neighborhoods,
with
the
grand
trees
to
incorporate
the
idea
that
you
came
up
with
Mr
Miller,
so.
H
Mr
Mayor
I
I
understand
the
whys,
but
the
results
are
tragic.
They
really
are
there.
They
totally
destroy
the
streetscape
of
neighborhoods
and
trust
me
I've,
seen
after
the
cutting
how
they
grow.
Okay
and-
and
it
looks
pretty
good
okay
over
time
over
time,
but
when
you
do
it
every
two
years,
instead
of
every
five
we
never
read.
Yes,
yes,
I
know
it's
supposed
to
be
every
five
years
right,
not
on
Grove
and
dunaman.
H
Sorry,
okay,
it's
it's
been
every
two
years.
Well,
at
least
it's
been
done
twice.
Okay
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
I'll
say
Okay,
because
I
was
about
to
compliment
them
because
the
trees
were
growing
in
beautifully.
They
were
looking
better
and
here
they
come
again
destroyed
it
I
mean
our
neighborhood
looks
horrible
Grove,
Street,
Rutledge,
Avenue,
Dunham
I
can
go
on
and
on
it
it.
It's
not
good.
I
mean
I,
think
it
even
affects
our
property
value.
H
B
H
B
I
read:
we
got
17
of
them
and
I
think
they're
all
as
presented.
So
no
amendments
any
questions
or
conversation
about
any
of
these
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
to
yeah.
Let's
have
a
council
member.
R
B
That's
correct
all
right
and
then
for
third
reading
and
ratification
of
one
through
17..
We
got
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
oppose
the
eyes
Havel.
So
we
did
have
one
item
I
saw
listed
here
is
withdrawn.
Number
19.!
You
want
us
to
have
a
motion
to
withdrawal
number
19.,
we'll
be
with
Philip
all
right.
The
second
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposey
eyes
have
it
next.
B
We
do
have
one
item
up,
I,
think
for
first
reading
and
that
came
out
out
of
our
ad
hoc
rules.
Committee
report,
so
I'm
going
to
call
First
on
council
member
Brady.
AA
Yes,
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor.
The
ad
hoc
rules
committee
met
on
Friday
at
two
o'clock
to
kick
off
the
ruining
in
the
Friday
afternoon
before
going
into
Valentine's
Day
weekend.
So,
but
I
just
wanted
to
to
note
on
what
we
have
up
for
consideration
tonight.
So
there's
two
things:
one
is
related
to
the
appointments
in
terms
of
doing
a
change
for
how
appointments
come
through
from
the
mayor's
office.
I
would
add
that
that
passed
unanimously
out
of
the
rules
committee.
AA
You
can
see
the
language
in
here
where
the
mayor
would
submit
a
the
Slate
for
his
appointments
to
the
committees,
as
well
as
the
chairs
by
the
first
meeting
in
December,
and
then
the
approval
by
Council
would
be
given
no
later
than
the
second
meeting
in
January
understanding
that
time
of
year
we
have
the
holidays
and
that
type
of
thing,
so
it
effectively
gives
a
month
for
review
and,
as
I
said,
that
passed
unanimously
out
of
committee.
AA
The
second
portion
was
at
the
request
of
the
clerk's
office,
some
cleaning
up
of
some
of
the
languages
or
language
in
the
the
statute.
They're
just
moving
some
things
around
for
Health
stuff
got
listed
on
the
agenda
that
type
of
thing
and
that
passed
unanimously
out
of
the
rules
committee
as
well.
AA
So
I
do
want
to
thank
councilmember,
Sacrament
and
councilmember
Waring
and
the
mayor
for
serving
on
a
committee
that
really
dived
into
the
minutia
of
of
our
ordinances
as
they
relate
to
the
rules
of
council
and
and
how
we
propose
ordinances
and
everything
else.
So
I
do
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
your
service.
A
H
Okay,
the
first
question
has
to
do
with
how
vacancies
will
be
filled
and
I
think
the
way
it's
written
now
is
that
those
vacancies
will
be
filled
based
upon
the
mayor's
recommendation
and
I
think
that
the
vacancies
should
be
filled
the
same
way.
We
do
the
others.
The
mayor
makes
the
recommendation
comes
to
council,
Council,
says
yay
and
they
on
the
vacancies.
That's
the
first
thing.
The
second
thing
is
on
ordinances
and
how
those
ordinance
get
to
ratification.
H
I
think
we
should
do
the
same
thing
across
the
board,
in
other
words,
when
the
administration
and
when
we
say
staff
we're
really
talking
the
administration
when
the
administration
forwards
and
ordinance
I
think
that
it
should
go
through
the
same
process.
H
I
think
all
should
be
handled
exactly
the
same.
Unless
there's
an
emergency
give
us
two
weeks,
one
of
the
biggest
complaints,
especially
councilman
Lewis,
one
of
the
biggest
complaints
that
we
always
had
was.
We
would
come
in
and
there's
an
ordinance
on
our
desk
that
we
have
not
even
reviewed
that
needed
to
be
voted
on
in
order
for
us
to
safeguard
against
that
yeah
us
two
weeks
on
any
ordinance
that
comes
before
this
body.
H
H
Why
not
give
us
two
weeks
on
all
of
them
is
my
recommendation
for
changes
to
the
ordinance,
the
amendments
to
the
audience,
one
vacancies
to
go
through
the
same
process
to
all
ordinances,
be
it
from
from
the
legislative
branch
or
the
executive
branch
should
go
through
the
same
process
as
an
amendment.
I
would
like
to
add,
unless
I'm
reviewing
it
incorrectly,
because
right.
Z
Z
I
suppose
it's
just
a
point
of
order.
Didn't
we
we
voted
on
the
adoption
of
ordinances
that
was
number
17..
We
can
revisit.
C
H
Okay,
well,
actually
that
one
because
I
did
raise
it
at
the
last
council
meeting
and
my
question
was:
where
was
the
information
regarding
the
submission
of
orderings
I
think
I
did
and
I
and
I?
It
was
my
understanding
that
it'd
be
done
now,
so
maybe
I
misunderstood
some
things,
but
I.
Definitely
you
know,
even
even
if
I
did
and
we've
already
voted
on.
It
I'd
like
to
often
immense
excellent.
H
I
I,
just
I,
just
think
that
the
legislative
branch,
okay,
the
policy,
making
branch
okay,
if
we're
going
to
spend
two
weeks,
okay
committee,
then
to
the
body
as
a
whole,
the
same
thing
should
happen
when
the
executive
branches
is
pushing
ordinance
through
this.
This
does
not
apply
to
the
Executive
Branch
if
I'm
am
I
correct
in
terms
of
the
process
for
getting
an
ordinance
to
third
first.
Second,
third
reading.
D
Okay,
so
if
it's
coming
directly
out
of
committee,
how
it's
written
right
now
is
there's
a
two-week
cooling
off
period.
If
it's
coming
directly
out
of
committee,
if
a
legislator
or
a
council
member
wants
to
introduce
legislation,
it
starts
with
Council
Communications
Council
directs
staff
to
draft.
Then
it
goes
to
the
next
standing
committee
and
then
committee
will
send
it
back
to
council
for
consideration.
So
the
two-week
is
on
the
two-week
cooling
off
period
is
just
if
it's
coming
directly
out
of
committee
without
a
council
member
bringing
it
to
the
floor.
First,
okay,.
H
D
H
I
Just
want
to
change
the
conversation
on
another
topic,
Mr
chairman
the
offender
section
2.5.
Well,
they
I.
M
S
S
I
I
agree
that
I
think
that
this
should
go
through
the
same
process
when
when
we're,
especially
if
we're
looking
at
a
new
chairperson,
if
it's
not
going
to
be
the
vice
chairperson,
that
takes
that
which
almost
seems
to
make
sense
that
I
think
that
the
committee
should
or
the
the
poll
Council
should
agree
on
that
replacement.
So.
B
All
right,
so,
let's
keep
our
conversation
right
now
on
the
motion.
That's
on
the
floor,
which
has
to
do
with
the
committee
appointment
committee,
appointments
and-
and
this
point
is
relevant-
okay,
council
member
Shea.
I
Q
So
I'm,
not
a
big
fan
of
the
changes
that
we're
making
to
2-49
I
I.
Think
that
the
mayor
as
the
executive
and
the
head
of
council
under
our
strong
mayor
form
of
government,
he
is
akin
to
the
speaker
of
the
house
under
our
system
that
we've
had
for
Generations
I
mean
that's
just
a
fact,
and
so
this
is
unprecedented.
Q
There's
not
a
single
municipality
or
county
in
the
region
that
does
this
the
town
of
Mount
Pleasant
that
has
a
weak,
mere
form
of
government.
The
only
Power
of
the
week
mayor
has
is
to
appoint
committee
chairs
and
committees.
This
is
a
radical
departure
from
our
precedent.
It's
a
anti-conservative
measure
we're
just
changing
the
form
of
government
due
to
a
circumstance
that
that
happened
with
councilman
seekings
and
the
transportation
chairmanship,
which
is
now
corrected.
It's
self
I,
just
I
think
it's
a
knee-jerk
reaction.
Q
I
think
it's
a
solution
to
a
problem
that
doesn't
exist
and
I
think
it's
going
to
cause
extremely
counterproductive
log
rolling
battles
on
Council
factionism,
pitting
members
of
counsel
against
one
another,
because
what's
going
to
happen
when
somebody
when
the
mayor
proposes
somebody
to
to
chair
a
committee
when
there's
a
when
there's
a
sense
on
Council
that
there's
a
problem
with
that
you're
going
to
have
people
pressing
their
green
button
and
saying
and
taking
positions
publicly
why
that
person
shouldn't
be
on
this
committee
or
should
be
on
that
committee.
Q
This
is
what's
going
to
happen
next
year.
If
we,
if
we
adopt
this
so
I,
think
this
is,
you
know
not
something
we
ought
to
do
it's
unprecedented.
It's
you
know
in
my
views
in
in
search
of
a
solution
to
to
a
problem
that
doesn't
really
exist,
so
so
I'm
not
inclined
to
support
this
I
would
suggest
that
perhaps
as
a
way,
we
could
make
this
a
little
bit
better.
Q
Is
we
allow
the
mayor
to
appoint
the
members
of
the
committee,
and
we
just
have
the
chairs
up
for
consideration,
because
if
every
single
position
on
every
single
committee
is
just
going
to
be
thrown
onto
the
floor
of
counsel,
how
is
it
going
to
actually
work
at
this?
First
meeting
in
January
people
are
going
to
make
motions
from
the
floor
to
take
themselves
off
of
committees.
They
don't
want
to
be
on.
People
are
going
to
make
motions
on
the
floor
saying
somebody
across
the
the
the
table
doesn't
deserve
to
be
on
X
committee.
Q
Because
of
this
reason
that
reason
and
the
other
reason-
let's
at
least
minimize
the
damage
here
by
just
focusing
on
the
chairs
of
each
of
the
Committees
I-
think
the
mayor
has
a
important
role
in
in
this
city
structure
that
we've
had
in
place
for
decades
to
establish
a
committee
structure
that
can
help
help
execute
an
agenda
and
I
think
there
ought
to
be
really
good
reason
for
the
mayor's
decisions
to
be
subverted
and
so
to
that
to
that
level.
I
think
there
should
be
a
super
majority
requirement.
Q
A
two-thirds
vote
requirement
to
usurp
one
of
the
mayor's
selections
as
committee
chair,
because
otherwise
I
think
we
are
just
going
to
have
unbelievably
counterproductive
battles
on
the
floor
and
I.
Just
don't
think
it's
a
good
policy
and
I
and
I.
Q
Just
think
that
you
know
we
ought
to
be
a
little
bit
more
circumspect
before
we
make
such
a
radical
change
to
existing
structure
and
when
I
say
radical
I
mean
there's
nobody
in
the
region
that
does
this
and
I
challenge
supporters
of
this
legislation
to
point
to
examples
that
that
are
contrary
to
that
position
that
I
have
and
I'll
just
close
by
saying
again
the
weak
mayor
for
the
town
of
Mount
Pleasant,
the
weak
mayor,
the
weak
mayor,
his
only
Power
that
distinguishes
himself
from
other
council
members
is
the
ability
to
appoint
committee
chairs
and
committee
appointments,
so
we're
taking
that
power
away
from
the
executive
in
our
strong
mayor
form
of
government
and
I.
Q
Don't
think
it's
good
for
this
Administration
for
a
future
mayor
and
Mayors
beyond
that,
I
think
we're
rushing
into
this.
This
isn't,
if
you
vote
for
this
you're,
taking
a
radical
anti-conservative
position
with
respect
to
the
structure
of
government
when,
when
the
Supreme
Court
makes
a
decision
that
people
don't
like,
and
people
toss
out
the
idea,
let's,
let's
expand
the
court.
What
is
the
reason
why
that
is
considered
not
a
prudent
decision?
Q
It's
because
we're
we're
changing
the
structure
of
government,
because
we
don't
like
the
results
that
a
certain
decision,
certain
decisions
were
made
under
the
existing
framework.
Q
I
just
think
it's
not
a
good
idea
and
I
think
we
ought
to
reject
this
or,
at
the
very
least,
put
some
more
detail
and
structure
into
this,
so
that
we're
only
talking
about
committee
chairs-
and
we
in
include
a
super
majority
vote,
so
that
we
at
least
give
Council
some
some
pause
before
you
know
trying
to
reverse
proposals
that
are
set
forth
by
the
executive.
So
with
that
I'll
rest.
E
E
You
know
things
are
being
made
every
day
now,
I've
been
here
almost
20
years,
councilman
Lewis
was
sitting
here
and
he
was
made
chairman.
He
was
the
chairman
of
the
Community
Development
and
that
next
year
they
came
they
made
hit.
They
made
me
chairman
of
the
committee
and
made
him
co-share
and
I
sat
right
here
and
I
sort
of
just
I
saw
what
was
happening.
E
I
said,
Mr
Mayor
no
I
said
councilman
lose
his
chair.
He
likes
me
to
share,
let
him
be
the
chair
and
I'll,
be
the
coach
here
and
I'll
learn,
and
we
did
right
here
on
Council
floor
and
we
were
right
here
on
Council
floor
and
that's
the
way
we
did.
We
made
that
change
right.
Then
everything
is
made
smooth.
E
E
I
told
you
all
before.
When
we
sent
someone
up
to
the
Justice
attorney
general's
office.
We
sent
two
council
member
up
there,
but
we
could
do
with
what
we
can't
do,
but
we
can
do
a
lot
of
things
with
70
votes,
because
certain
books
was
the
one
that
gave
the
power
that
they
have
to
the
mayor
as
it
is.
E
That
was
right
after
I
came
on
Council
and
I
knew
every
last
one
who
was
on
Council
prior
to
me
getting
on
Council
and
I.
Think
mayor
Taylor
knew
advert
during
that
time
because
he
was
an
employee
of
the
city
and
that's
who
give
the
mayor
the
power
council
is
the
only
way
to
take
it
back,
but
they
have
to
specify
what
they
want
back.
That's
what
a
channel
General
said,
but
he
said
now.
Let
me
tell
you
something:
I,
don't
think
it's
not
going
to
be
a
fight,
but
that's
that's!
E
The
only
person
can
do
with
his
counseling,
because
Council,
gibbett
and
councilman
take
it
away.
But
you
have
to
specify
what
you
want
to
be
involved
in
when
you're
doing
it.
That's
all
it
is
that's
simple.
That's
it
that's
the
way
to
call
the
Department
of
government
we
have
by
the
under
home,
News
mayor
council
form
of
government.
That's
all
it
is,
but
changes
always
has
taken
place
and
we're
going
to
sit
here
and
let
things
happen
if
it
happened
for
100
years,
that
don't
mean
is
right.
I
see
a
lot
of
things
commit.
E
But
we
just
have
to
look
at
things
and
it's
not
going
to
hurt
anyone.
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
no
big
fight
on
Council,
like
some
people,
think
it
is
it's
from
the
person
would
have
booked
it.
We
don't
really
really
normally
don't
have
that
some
people
might
look
back
and
they'll
say
they're
both
their
own
conviction.
Because
that's
your
conviction,
you
got
the
right
to
do
that.
E
That's
all
right,
but
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
a
big
fight
on
Council,
while
mixing
up
on
Council
because
of
we've
changed
something
in
the
ordinance
or
whatever.
The
case
may
be.
I
haven't
seen
that
happen
since
I've
been
here,
so
we
should
not
install
it
and
people
mind,
so
we
can
so
that
can
happen.
Sometimes
you
can
still
in
people's
mind.
So
we
can
put
that
on
a
table
that
it
could
happen.
That's
not
the
way
I
do
things
I,
don't
do
it
that
way.
E
I
sit
here
and
listen.
Sometime,
you'll
see
me
sit
here
at
Mr,
mirror,
don't
see
one
mumbling
word
and
just
listen.
I,
listen
carefully,
but
I
know
how
to
come
back
if
I,
if
I
want
to
but
I
said,
hey,
let's
go
on,
you
know,
because
time
is
short.
None
of
us
might
be
sitting
in
these
seats.
We
are
talking
about
who
is
going
to
come
behind
us.
E
H
H
Okay
and
he's
pretty
good
at
that,
for
the
most
part
doesn't
get
everything
he
wants,
but
I
think
what
makes
him
makes
a
mayor.
Strong
mayor
is
being
able
to
get
seven
votes.
All
those
other
stuff's,
not
even
relevant,
at
least
to
me.
Okay,
get
your
seven
votes
and
you
got
your
strengths.
H
H
V
V
V
So
when
it
comes
to
collegial
conversations
between
colleagues
on
Council,
with
all
due
respect,
councilman
lapel
I
believe
we
can
do
that,
we
can
do
it.
It
was
councilmember
Brady
that
came
up
with
the
suggestion
of
taking
the
I
suggested.
The
mayor
makes
his
suggestions
first
meeting
in
December,
councilman
Brady
said
you
know
what
I
think
we
know
him.
You
know
I
suggested
first
meeting
in
January.
V
It
was
his
thought
process.
He
said
no
carry
to
the
second
meeting
in
January.
That
gives
more
opportunity-
and
this
is
my
term
cross-pollination
between
council
members
talking
about
positions
with
the
mayor
and
back
around
again.
So
when
we
got
to
the
end
second
meeting,
if
it
takes
that
long
to
the
second
meeting
of
January,
it's
a
quick
vote,
the
truthful
part
about
it.
There's
no
such
thing
as
being
the
mayor
and
a
speaker
of
counseling
there's.
Just
no
such
position
to
say
I
mean
nowhere
in
America.
The
mayor
is
the
presiding
officer.
V
V
Just
really
don't
believe
this
qualified,
because
we
have
standing
committees
now
so
you're
talking
about
just
tweaking
those
commissions,
one
of
the
things
councilman
Brady
didn't
touch
on,
but
you
did
see
in
the
ordinance
the
number
of
council
members
on
most
committees
went
from
four
to
five,
which
will
enable
more
people
to
get
on
a
committee
and
solve
some
of
the
issues
that
frankly,
Council
William
Parker
brought
up.
The
real
estate
committee
had
just
about
everybody
from
West.
V
Ashley
I
didn't
realize
that
until
she
brought
that
up,
it
wasn't
on
purpose,
I
think
we
kind
of
evolved
in
it.
Well
any
council
person
to
come
on
and
think
that
they
don't
have
a
prayer
of
getting
on
one
Community,
one
committee
or
the
other.
That's
a
problem
with
that
that
process.
That
process
needs
to
be
more
open.
Every
Committee
in
this
city.
V
That's
the
process
that
goes
through
the
mayor
recommends.
In
some
cases
we
recommend
people
for
the
Planning
Commission
to
the
man.
The
mayor
brings
it
to
us.
We
commit
to
the
route
and
we
vote
on,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
standing
committees
that
we
serve
on,
that's
the
only
time
that's
happened,
then
we
have
no
say
that's
just
not
right
and
council.
Member
Mitchell
is
right.
V
If
it's
been
a
hundred
years
that
doesn't
make
it
right,
I
can
go
through
a
lot
of
laws
that
were
laws
that
well
I'm
sure
glad
they
changed
all
right.
So
I
think
some
of
the
conversations
and
I
think
it'll
be
collegial
between
council
members
on
your
own
sustainability.
I
I
I'd
like
to
I
like
to
get
on
sustainability,
or
maybe
I
want
to
get
off
of
sustainability.
V
That's
conversations
I
look
forward
to
having
with
our
colleagues,
council
member
Greg
being
an
engineer
not
being
on
the
Public
Works
committee.
I,
don't
think
that's
on
purpose,
I
think
it's
an
oversight,
but
I
actually
think
the
committee
will
be
improved
with
having
an
engineer.
That's
on
Council,
that's
seeing
it
from
different
angles
because
we
get
elected
by
sections,
but
we
really
Hannah
so
collectively
to
hold
on
the
portion
that
subscribes
to
District
Seven,
and
you
only
voting
the
portion
that
subscribes
it.
District
11.
V
we're
going
on
entire
budget
for
the
whole
city,
so
is
that
Collective
thought
process
that
makes
us
better
so
I
want
to
thank
again.
My
colleagues
are
reconsidering
and
thinking
about
this,
because
there
was
a
time
where
we
wasn't
even
going
to
have
this
discussion
on
the
floor.
A
council
we've
had
the
discussion
and
I
think
we're
better
for
it.
V
I
do
believe
this
is
a
better
result
and-
and
you
know
the
high
I've
thought
about
that-
that
the
hybrid
position
of
being
men
and
Speaker
of
counsel
there
is
no
position
in
America
where
the
chief
executive
heads
the
legislative
branch
or
even
the
judicial
branch
there's
a
reason.
It
works
in
this
democracy
that
separation
of
government-
so
you
know
I,
always
like
your
passion,
brother,
but
I,
hope
you
would
support
this
and
I
think
the
I
hope
Mr
chairman
I,
hope
you
had.
The
motion
on
the
floor.
V
I
hope
the
idea
about
being
consistent
through
the
ordinance
I
didn't
think
about
that
at
the
meeting
where
Replacements
the
mail
would
recommend
and
then
I
think
that
should
be
even
easier
and
as
far
as
replacing
one
person
every
year,
the
man
comes
with
us
and
we
normally
find
that
out
at
the
meeting
who
the
mayor,
Pro
tem
was
going
to
be,
and
normally
that's
a
unanimous
vote,
so
picking
one
person
Council
can
do
that
as
well.
Thank
you.
I
I
I
I
The
the
system
of
how
we
are
appointing
members
to
committees
is
these
needs
to
be
addressed,
because
the
points
that
we
have
we
we
need
to
take
in
consideration
our
backgrounds.
You
know
what
is
our
our
occupation
or
our
profession
where,
where
do
we
live?
I
Do
we
have
special
expertise
or
special
concerns,
or
something
of
special
importance
to
us
or
it's
because
of
the
district
we
represent,
that
we
have
concerns
about
where
we
need
to
be
heading
with
these
committee
appointments
and
for
a
lot
of
times
we're
jocking
around
trying
to
make
sure
those
balances
fit
and,
and
sometimes
it
just
doesn't-
and
you
use
the
example
accounts
we're
wearing
about
our
one
engineer
on
the
on
the
council
not
being
on
public
works
and
utilities,
which
is
a
really
good
point
or
the
balance
about
how
many
folks
we
got
from
West
Ashley
on
on
real
estate,
so
I
I
think
I'm
going
to
vote
against
it
as
it
stands.
I
For
this
reason,
I
think
there's
a
way
of
fixing
this
a
little
bit
differently
and
one
is
that
the
member
of
city
city
council,
member
appointment
should
be
based
on
certain
criteria
and
that
criteria
should
be
what
we
have
been.
What
we've
been
outlining
just
make
sure
that
we
have
a
balance
I'm
a
little
concerned,
and
that
was
my
initial
question
was
going
to
be
acid
section
2.5.
Actually,
the
rationale
for
increasing
the
size
of
each
of
these
committees,
because
I
mean
we
are
over.
I
All
of
us
are
overworked,
and
that
means,
when
you
start
adding
more
committee
council
members
to
these
particular
committees.
That
means
we're
going
to
get
more
appointments
on
these
committees
and
the
idea
of
a
committee
is
I
understand
it
is
to
is
to
be
a
subsection
of
the
whole
to
take
in
consideration
that
particular
issue
that
is
before
that
committee,
be
it
public
works
or
Public,
Safety
or
traffic
and
transportation
whatever
to
come
and
hear
the
the
discussion
about
that
particular
item.
I
That
is
before
that
committee
then
report
that
out
to
the
committee
of
the
whole,
when
you
start
having
five
members
or
six
members,
you
you
not
becoming
a
subsection
you're
becoming
a
minimum
majority
almost
and
it
is,
it
is
defeating
the
idea
of
what
we're.
What
we're
trying
to
do
in
committee
committee
is
supposed
to
be
a
reflection
of
a
smaller
section
of
the
community,
we're
12
members
and
you
start
putting
five
and
six.
I
Then
you
creating
almost
a
majority
of
the
council
and
I,
think
that's
the
wrong
message
of
Mythology,
of
how
you
want
to
conduct
government
that
the
mayor
is
the
presiding
officer
of
this
Council,
and
there
is
this
crossover
that
we
talked
about
at
the
last
committee
meeting
we
I
mean
tells
me
we
had
there
is
this
crossover
between
the
executive
and
the
legislative
branch?
It's
it's
an
odd
situation.
I
Some
councils
in
some
cities
have
a
president
of
counsel.
We
don't
have
that
in
this
form
of
government,
which
is
separate
from
from
the
mayor.
The
mayor
is
you
can
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
the
presiding
officer,
the
president,
the
speaker,
whatever
term
it
is,
but
he
is
the
presiding
officer
and
the
presiding
officers.
I
Responsibility
is
to
include
committee
appointments.
That's
what
the
president
officer.
Does
you
see
it
in
almost
every
organization,
aside
from
from
city
government,
that
the
presiding
officer
of
any
organization
appoints
his
committee
or
her
committee
members,
I
I,
don't
I
I
see
that
some
of
the
changes
in
here
seem
to
be
good
as
seem
to
be.
Some
of
the
changes
would
address
some
technical
kind
of
issues,
but
when
we
get
to
section
2.49
and
2.5
I
just
have
a
little
bit
of
a
heartburn
with
it.
I
And
your
point,
absolutely
Gregory
is
what
you
said
about
what
makes
a
strong
mayor
is
seven.
You
know
what
makes
us
a
weak
mayor,
seven
votes,
that's
the
it's,
the
reverse
of
that
as
well.
Never
bad
I.
I
Know
that
so
I,
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
as
a
stance
and
I'm
gonna
vote
against
it.
Unless
we
make
some
changes
to
it
and
I
just
am
not
comfortable
with
this.
The
way
it's
written,
particularly
the
increasing
the
number
of
committee
members
on
on
Council
I,
think
we're
heading
the
wrong
direction.
With
this
thing,.
Z
Thank
you.
You
know
whenever
look
last
time,
this
came
up.
I,
don't
think.
I
did
a
good
enough
job
of
emphasizing
that
yeah.
This
is
for
me
really.
This
is
like
a
51.
No
49,
yes,
I
mean
if
I
had
a
few
more
weeks.
I
might
change
my
mind
again,
but
I
do
really
like
councilman
rappel's
suggestion.
I,
don't
know
about
the
vote
threshold
but
I
I.
Think
to
me
this
ordinance
would
be
better
if
it
was
if
it
just
pertained
to
or
if
Council
would
be
approving
chairmanships.
Z
That's
that
really
seems
to
be
where
the
issue
came
from
in
the
first
place,
and
then
you
know
I.
Q
Z
Think
there's
a
huge
problem
with
the
sort
of
trading
positions
under
the
council
member
Greg
reached
out
to
me
about
potentially
swapping
some
spots.
I
mean
that
that
all
can
still
go
on,
but
I
just
sort
of
bring
in
the
check
that
that
you're
suggesting
without
creating
too
many
new
14
issues.
I
would
I'd
like
to
see
best
considered
the
chairmanship
issue.
F
Thank
you,
mayor,
I
will
be
brief.
I
did
vote
Yes
for
this
out
of
out
of
our
rules
committee,
but
I
still
have
some
concerns
around
specificity
and
I'm
not
going
to
try
to
articulate
for
councilman
appellee
does
a
good
job
of
that
on
its
own,
but
for
me
it's
a
specificity
about
the
process,
certainly
we're
all
collegial.
F
Certainly
the
process
worked
with
councilman
seekings
recently,
I
get
all
that,
but
the
issue
that
I
that
I
have
is
really
forethought
and
it's
and
when
you
look
at
the
definition
of
forethought,
it's
two
pieces:
what
are
we
currently
doing?
We
can
we
can
address
that
right
now.
This
issue
would
not
happen
because
we
all
can
just
discuss
this
collegially,
but
forethought
is
about
the
future.
F
What
could
possibly
be
so
when
we're
not
here,
our
role
is,
is
legislators
and,
as
Leaders
is
to
think
about
the
potential
for
10
years
from
now,
the
lack
of
specificity
on
how
we
make
decisions
is,
is
my
concern,
meaning
what
how
will
that
conversation
occur?
When
the
mayor
puts
a
slate
of
of
of
folks
on
on
a
standing
committee,
are
we
going
to
have
that
debate
in
Council?
F
Are
we
going
to
rely
on
our
collegiality
to
discuss
that
off
hours
off
time
without
without
the
lack
of
process,
without
the
lack
of
of
glitter
delineation,
of
how
those
discussions
should
happen?
What
is
the
guarantee
that
it
could
go
off
the
rails,
and
what
does
that
process
look
like
when
it
does
go
off
the
ribs
again?
I?
F
Don't
think
that's
going
to
happen
with
us,
but
how
do
we
know
a
future
Council
in
five
or
ten
years
that
that's
not
going
to
happen
with
a
new
mayor
that
that's
my
my
issues
with
with
the
current
draft
so
and
councilman
you've
said
this
several
times
we're
there
we're
getting
there
this
this
this
this
ordinance
is,
is
almost
there
I
think
it
could
be
made
improved
to
to
meet
some
of
the
needs
that
we
want
and
the
intent
we
want.
It's
not
there.
Yet
I
do
think
we'll
put
some
more
tweaking.
F
We
can
get
there.
I
think
councilman
Bowden
councilman
shade
have
both
indicated
that
they're
not
very
supportive,
but
maybe
we
can
get
there
with
with
some
of
that
support
I'm
on
the
fence,
even
though
I
did
a
vote
for
this
out
of
out
of
rules,
but
my
concerns
are
the
same
today
as
they
were.
The
last
meeting
is
specificity
about
how
many,
how
we
make
the
decisions.
Okay,.
B
Address
this
matter
so
yeah.
A
Q
Want
me
well,
thank
you,
I
and
and
I'm.
Just
looking
at
this
language,
it
says
quote:
city
council
shall
have
the
responsibility
to
approve
such
recommendation.
Appointments
no
later
than
the
second
meeting
in
January
I'm
concerned
that
this
is
unconstitutional,
is
written.
Q
I,
think
that
this
language
combined
purports
to
bind
future
councils
and
and
to
dictate
to
counsel
when
it
must
take
a
certain
legislative
act
by
putting
in
a
deadline
and
trust
me
I
know
this
area
of
the
law
hurt
pretty
well
and
I
think
that
this
is
requiring
a
vote
of
council
and
it's
requiring
a
vote
of
counsel
by
a
deadline.
So
I'm
just
going
to
throw
this
out
there.
Q
That,
aside
from
all
the
policy
issues
that
we
talked,
that
I
talked
about
I
I'm,
not
sure
that
this
language
is
defensible,
I
mean
what's
I
mean.
Let
me
put
it
this
way.
Q
What's
going
to
happen,
if
there's
a
log
Jam
on
some
of
these
issues
in
the
second
meeting
of
January
is,
is
Neil
going
to
lock
the
door
in
in
and
prevent
us
from
leaving
unless
we
vote
to
approve
a
slate
that
we
we,
this
Council
composed
of
the
human
beings
in
this
room
cannot
force
a
council
10
years
from
now
to
take
a
legislative
act
by
a
deadline,
and
so.
Q
Right,
but
it's
not
a
legislative
act,
it's
a
it's!
The
mayor,
appointing
the
position
Okay,
so
okay,
so
it's
a
big
difference
and
and
I
appreciate
all
these
talks
about
all
this
commentary
about
seven
vote.
I
I
I
that
that's
an
obvious
statement.
That's
true!
I
agree!
It's
true!
Our
our
predecessors
vested
the
mayor
with
these
authorities.
The
mayor
is
an
executive
and
he's
a
legislator,
guys
that's
not
unprecedented.
It's
not
news.
Q
It's
not
anything
unique
to
Charleston
I
mean
we
are
to
get
to
councilman
sachrin's
point
we're
upsetting
an
apple
cart
structurally
on
the
hope
and
whim
in
prayer
that
everything's
just
going
to
be
great
okay.
Maybe
it
will
be
great
for
the
vast
majority
of
the
time,
but
I
can
foresee
very
serious
problems
disruptions
through
this
through
this
processes,
I've
laid
out
and
I'm,
not
sure
this
is
constitutional
as
written.
E
E
You
know
you
know,
because
a
lot
of
people
think
that
I'm
just
sitting
here
and
it
and
was
here
living
in
this
city
all
these
years
and
probably
dumb
to
the
fact,
are
dumb
and
not
knowing
that's
not
true.
E
Everyone
talk,
oh,
this
is
what
it's
like
going
to
be
right.
This
is
not
the
law
is
that
this
is
what
happens:
seven
votes.
You
can
go
and
rap
all
around
all
around
the
city
and
talk
all
this
stuff
that
be
a
lawyer,
and
this
is
this
unconstitutional
and
all
this
kind
of
thing
I
understand
all
that
stuff.
I
understand
what
you're
saying
I
got
people
in
politics:
I
got
Jim
Clark,
but
in
my
family
I
got
people
in
politics
that
I
know
okay,
so
we
got
to
stop
it.
We
got
to
stop
all
this.
E
Carrying
on
you,
you,
you
might
be
attorney.
I,
I,
I,
I,
I
I
applaud
you,
you
do
a
good
job,
but
nobody
knows
it
all.
That's
what
I'm
saying
nobody
knows:
the
law
I,
don't
even
know
it
all.
I
work
for
hydrology
I,
don't
know
at
all,
but
it's
not
gonna,
be
the
next
step
on
Council
I've
been
here
almost
20
years
and
say
this
have
been
made
on
way.
Since
I
was
here,
a
lot
of
change
has
been
made.
E
E
This
is
what's
going
on.
People
change
is
going
to
take
place.
We
we
sit
in
these
streets,
and
this
is
not
don't
belongs
to
us.
It
belongs
to
people
out
there
in
the
community
and
I,
keep
telling
people
that
and
I
I
always
tell
everyone
I'm
not
afraid
to
lose
an
election,
because
the
streets
is
not
mine,
I'm
just
sitting
here,
because
the
people
put
me
here
to
represent
them
I'm
out
here
in
the
community
and
I
unlock
none
of
my
colleagues.
E
But
nobody
in
this
sit
in
these
seats
is
out
in
the
streets
as
much
as
I
am
I
want
to
walk
the
street
with
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
come
and
be
with
me
sometime
and
see.
What's
going
I,
do
you
know
I
mean
in
the
streets?
Well,
I
mean
out
there
on
standing
on
the
corner,
what
they
call
the
drug
dealers
and
everything
else,
but
getting
them
to
change
their
ways.
E
E
You
know
so
what
I'm
saying
to
you
all
that
the
change
is
going
to
take
place
and
it
could
be
good
changes,
but
you
got
to
step
out
on
faith
step
out
and
do
what
you
feel
is
right
and
step
onto
the
office,
not
for
you
but
a
person
or
not
for
myself,
but
for
others
he
spoke,
that's
what
we
got
to
do
and
we
got
to
keep
on
going.
It
seems,
but
it's
going
to
be
good.
Bob
knows
here.
He's
a
young
man
he's
coming
up
appeal.
E
B
It
is
Valentine's
Day,
y'all,
councilmember
Greg
has
not
been
recognized
enough
to
be
recognized.
T
T
I
I
am
the
junior
member
of
council.
As
we
all
know,
I
would
say
that
in
my
short
time
here
just
about
a
year
now,
the
the
best
experiences
I
think
I've
had
and
the
best
things
that
have
come
out
of
this
Council
have
been
things
that
we
have
mulled
over
and
molded
together
and
I.
Don't
see
how
this
would
be
any
different.
I
voted
against
this
on.
The
first
was
the
the
first
time
I'm
gonna
vote
for
it.
T
Now,
for
the
reasons
that
you
all
discussed
and
most
of
the
senior
members
here
have
a
lot
more
experience
here
than
I
do
regarding
the
point
on
binding
some
future
Council
to
a
vote,
I
mean
we
do
that
now
with
a
budget,
so
I
don't
see
how
that's
any
different,
how
this
would
be
any
different
than
a
budget
yeah
well
I
I
would
argue
that
the
citizens
of
Charleston
and
our
our
employees
would
say
that
we
do
have
no
passes,
but
all
right.
T
Well,
anyway,
I
I
think
I
I
appreciate
the
the
changes
that
have
been
made.
I
think
it's
a
and
I
think
this
will
be
better
for
us.
You
know
the
last
thing
I'm
going
to
say:
I
promise
is,
you
know:
we've
been
fortunate
to
have
really
good
Mayors
and
our
tenure
here
in
Charleston,
but
we're
not
guaranteed
that
in
the
future.
It
would
be
a
lot
easier
to
have
a
bad
mayor
than
it
would
be
to
have
seven
bad
council
members.
T
B
V
B
Happy
Valentine's
Day,
hey
y'all,
we're
not
done
yet
I'm.
Sorry,
we,
we
do
have
an
executive
session
requested
on
on
a
few
items,
one
to
receive
legal
advice
on
a
lawsuit
that
we've
been
in
with
the
city
of
North,
Charleston
and
another
item
to
receive
legal
update
on
a
South
Carolina
Department
of
Natural
Resources
Community
assistant
to
visit
and
other
building
matters.
So
can
I
entertain
a
motion
that
would
go
in
executive
session.