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City of Charleston Council Meeting - February 25,2020
A
C
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Now
we
have
a
recognition
this
evening,
I'd
like
to
ask
president
sandy
morkul
and
a
digit,
but
they
need
to
join
us
they're
from
the
Charleston
Rotary
Club
and
they
are
celebrating
their
100th
anniversary
this
year
and
it
looks
like
Jack
Mitchell
is
joining
them
as
a
member
of
the
club
as
well.
So
we
have
this
special
recognition,
because
the
Rotary
Club
of
Charleston
has
announced
that
our
very
own
Charleston
Police
Department
as
a
recipient
of
a
50,000
dollar
grant
for
the
launch
of
our
departments.
B
Leadership,
Development
Institute
after
months
of
searching
for
the
best
grant,
they've
chosen
us
and
we're
so
grateful.
As
many
of
you
will
recall,
through
the
recommendations
made
in
the
racial
bias.
Audit
of
the
police
department.
Leadership
development
emerged
as
a
top
priority,
making
the
establishment
of
the
Leadership
Development
Institute,
one
of
the
most
impactful
and
tangible
outcomes
of
the
whole
process,
but
moving
forward.
B
The
Rotary
Club
of
Charleston
will
collaborate
with
Charleston
police
to
build
this
curriculum,
which
is
focused
on
developing
fielding
and
evaluating
the
efficiency
of
leadership,
development
and
mentor
coaching
programs
and
will
work
with
us
to
incorporate
community
feedback
in
order
to
preserve
the
safety
of
our
community
and
build
strong
local
partnerships.
The
Board
of
Directors
will
be
a
Board
of
Directors
will
be
formed,
particularly
for
this
Leadership
Institute
to
provide
support
feedback
guidance,
a
continuing
relationship
with
the
Rotary
Club
of
Charleston.
B
The
goals
of
the
racial
bias
audit
were
to
ensure
greater
accountability
and
transparency
of
public
safety
operations,
improve
our
police
relationship
with
members
of
the
community,
and
this
partnership
is
really
step
in
that
direction.
So
we
want
to
thank
the
Rotary
Club
of
Charleston
for
investing
in
this
important
work
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
y'all.
Thank
you.
D
We
are
delighted
to
be
able
to
to
have
this
partnership
announced
for
our
in
honor
of
our
100th
anniversary
and
in
light
of
the
day
and
time
that
we
live
in
rotary
has
always
been
part
of
helping
to
solve
problems
within
the
community.
We've
done
a
lot
of
public/private
partnerships,
we've
partnered
with
the
city
for
years,
probably
from
the
very
start
of
our
existence
and
through
the
years.
So
we
are
excited
about
this.
D
E
B
We
can't
don't
have
time
to
go
through
all
the
history,
but
truly
many
initiatives,
including
the
forming
of
the
Francis
Marion
hotel,
numerous
times
of
helping
to
renovate
Marion,
Square
and
they're
going
to
add
the
fountain
there
at
the
corner
of
King
and
Calhoun
was
actually
provided
by
the
Rotary
Club
withdrawl
Charleston.
So
there's
been
a
long-standing
partnership
between
this
civic
organization
in
our
city.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
keeping.
B
So
next
we're
going
to
have
some
public
hearings.
Mr.
Morgan
will
be
announcing.
Those
I
would
ask
that
folks
when
y'all
come
forward,
please
state
your
name
and
address
if
you
want
to
address
the
council
regarding
any
of
these
patterns.
I
ask
you
to
please
keep
your
remarks
relevant
to
the
issue.
That's
being
presented
and
I'm
gonna
ask
for
a
limitation
of
one
minute
for
her
response
or
her
comments.
If
I
may,
it's
we're
keeping
our
schedule
a
little
tight
tonight,
so
we
can
get
out
for
some
other
engagements
this
evening.
Mr.
G
B
G
B
B
G
This
would
keep
it
in
line
with
other
properties
on
either
side
of
the
street,
from
it
and
I'll
very
quickly.
Go
through
a
few
slides
here.
To
show
that
again,
this
is
an
area
of
the
city.
It's
in
the
urban
core
designation,
the
star
designates
where
the
property
is
so
it's
the
the
most
intense
uses
within
the
city.
It's
on
the
future
Low
Country
rapid
transit
line.
It
has
the
14
story,
just
a
Floyd
Manor
directly
across
the
street,
from
it
and
as
a
future.
G
That's
why,
as
the
412
in
the
height
and
the
yupi
allows
us
allows
for
a
range
of
uses
such
as
residential
commercial
office,
things
like
that
that
are
going
on
in
the
area
and
the
purple
on
this
map
indicates
all
the
other
Upper
Peninsula
zoning.
So
you
see
how
compatible
it
is
with
those
surrounding
zonings
and
again
same
issues
apply
from
the
previous
item,
so
staff
and
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval
of
these
changes
for
these
properties
would.
H
I'm
going
to
the
Fourth
Circuit
Court
of
Appeals
I
received
February
8
2009
teen
20
Anthony
Bryant.
Only
for
the
record,
under
the
planning
enabling
Act,
1994
and
all
amendments
to
it,
there
is
the
BCD
cog
is
a
is
a
lobbyist
group?
Okay.
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
want
to
now
want
to
know
whether
or
not
sudden
do
influence
the
governance
in
the
State
of
the
State
address
that
there
were
City,
Council's,
County,
Council
school
districts.
They
may
need
to
be
looked
into
regarding
influences
on
their
body
governments,
so
the
question
becomes.
H
If
anyone
on
this
body
government
has
any
relationship
with
any
such
group
or
any
organization
need
to
put
on
a
record
before
the
3rd
reading
their
relationships
we
to
get
this
done
immediately.
This
is
a
mic
area.
I
grew
up
in
nothing's,
happened
in
that
area
and
almost
40
years,
and
so
now.
Ok,
this
is
the
foot
and
also
in
planning
in
the
Clinton
there's
no
financial
hardship
for
that
area.
So
therefore,
the
banks
and
all
the
institutions
that
have
denied
and
redline
that
area
for
close
to
50
years,
now's
dumping
money
into
that
community.
H
It's
a
three
and
four
is
a
three:
is
it
as
it
is
I
do
think,
there's
a
is
it
is
it
two
items
you
combine
the
items
together.
There
are
two
items
together,
the
sectional
minute.
So
is
it
this
time
please
wrap
up
a
few
wizard
this
in
a
minute.
Please
wrap
up
a
few,
though
I'm
asking
a
question
on
the
rules
on
the
limit
from
the
Chairman
where's.
The
additional
amendment
asking.
H
H
Here,
yeah,
okay,
now
now
this
is
this-
is
this
is
now
a
foreign
request
and
the
public
safety
to
you
or
the
public
safety
meeting
October
September,
the
28th
is
the
FOIA
request
to
you.
That's.
The
four
question
is
to
the
chairman
on
the
kaliya
from
the
Secret
Service
on
that
address
right
there
and
then
also
in
this
area.
This
is
also
a
editorial
Polson
courier
regarding
public
safety.
On
the
record.
H
B
J
The
only
thing
I
want
to
say
that
when
this
camp
before
I
was
asking
that
they
make
sure
that
you
go
into
that
community
is
the
community
of
all
communities.
That's
right
on
the
opposite
side
of
that
to
make
sure
that
people
there
understood
this
is
gonna,
be
happening
there
prior
to
us
going
through
this,
so
I'm
still
waiting
to
see
if
they
have
done
that
art
they
have
met
with
the
neighborhood.
J
So
to
me,
the
neighborhood
there
was
on
Cortland
Avenue
month
the
street
in
that
particular
area,
and
that's
what
I
was
asking
him
before
and
I'm
still
actually
for
that
now
that
they
get
and
let
them
know
what's
happening
on
what
will
be
happening
in
that
area,
close
proximity
to
what's
to
that
old
neighborhood,
it's
the
old
neighborhood
there,
sir!
That's
the
thing
that
was
actually
before
and
I
still
want
that
to
happen.
So
they'll
know
exactly
what's
going
on.
J
I
You,
mayor
I,
think
I
might
be
able
to
answer
some
of
that.
If
you
don't
mind
councilmember
Mitchell,
this
is
a
it's
a
property
that
is,
you
know,
was
the
northern
end
of
the
low
line
that
was
then
sold
off
by
the
city
back
to
the
Council
of
Governments.
This
is
a
in
the
short
term.
What's
going
to
happen
here,
is
it's
going
to
be
the
northern
spot
for
the
hop
lot
and
it
has
some
environmental
issues
what's
going
to
come
to
the
community?
I
I
think
it's
safe
to
say
for
at
least
another
six
or
seven
years,
if
if
by
then
so
in
the
interim,
it's
going
to
be
remediated
and
there
will
be
parking
and
we
will
certainly
make
sure
the
community
knows
what's
going
on
in
conjunction
with
Lowcountry
rapid
transit,
when
the
routing
is
decided,
it's
going
to
affect
that
community
and
be
part
of
that
community.
So
there
will
be
a
big
part
of
the
planning
for
that.
So
we
will
make
sure
that
they
are
very
much
involved
in
that
councilmember
Sheila.
K
G
E
I
One
of
the,
in
conjunction
with
the
study,
that's
being
done
by
the
BCD
cog
on
the
low
line,
transit
side
of
things,
also
is
a
question
of
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
future
in
terms
of
transit,
oriented
development
and
the
this
is
going
to
be
a
key
piece
of
this,
because
the
vision
is
sometime
in
the
future
that
this
will
be
a
transit
hub
that
will
allow
for
live-work-play.
So
this
zoning
puts
it
in
position
to
succeed
in
that
regard
and
what
happens
in
the
future?
I
We
don't
know,
but
it
is
consistent
with
the
zoning
that's
in
there
and
the
thought
was
as
we
go
through
the
transition.
Look
at
Low
Country
rapid
transit
go
through
the
remediation
process.
Try
to
acquire
you
see
that
little
lower
South
East
portion
try
to
acquire
it
and
integrate
it
just
to
make
sure
that
the
zoning
is
in
place.
So,
as
the
process
goes,
everyone
is
on
the
same
page
in
terms
of
them.
E
I
J
On
the
card
aboard,
I'm
gonna
cause
bored,
so
I'm
not
opposed
to
what's
happening,
I'm
just
saying
that
it's
better
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
what's
happening
out
there
before
we
went
to
up
the
peninsula.
We
were
talking
about
it.
I
asked
that
the
community
better
be
sent
to
the
people
who,
in
the
community
there
at
that
time,
because
the
only
tallest
building
in
that
areas
is
other
thought
to
the
flaws.
J
Man
which
isn't
like
the
district
I
represent
so
I
like
people
to
be
informed
and
that's
an
old
old
community,
it
was
there
versus
I
grew
up.
You
know
so.
I
just
want
people
to
be
able
to
understand.
What's
happening,
cuz,
it's
gonna
be
changing
in
that
area,
so
the
auditions
gonna
be
taking
place
in
area,
but
I
represent
that
whole
area,
so
I
like
them
to
be
informed
and
that
little
community
there,
because
even
the
traffic
starts
in
that
particular
area,
is
gonna
change.
J
J
Because
their
homeworld
is
there
they're,
not
remedy
their
homeowners
for
their
own
community.
That's
what
I'm
saying
so
I
don't
want
to
do
away
their
school
and
do
things
bypass
them.
That's
not
what
I'm
not
calling
about
see
so
just
making
sure
that
we
know
what's
going
on
and
it's
what's
happening
come
sometime.
We
are
coming
down
here
to
City
Hall
with
this
making
sure,
because
you
going
in
that
air
and
be
exchanging
via
we
went
to
the
Upper
Peninsula
zone.
B
Any
any
other
comments
or
questions
just
for
the
record
I
plan
to
recuse
myself,
no
personal
interests,
but
I
do
serve
on
the
BCD
cog
boy,
all
right,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed.
You
guys
have
it
and
now
for
third
reading
a
notification
motion
and
second
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed.
You
guys
have
it
number.
G
G
The
one
difference
with
what
the
city
code
would
have
is
that,
because
we
have
a
design
review
board,
if
there
needed
to
be
variations
from
that
12-foot
path
and
variations
to
the
buffer
in
the
area
that
the
design
review
board
could
handle
those
variations,
because
they
review
new
developments
in
that
area
and
would
be
more
of
a
one-stop
shop
and
also
having
to
go
to
the
BCA
other
jurisdictions
would
still
have
to
give
their
BCA.
So
we
think
it
makes
it
easier
to
have
this
legislated
and
and
and
implemented
on
a
daily
basis
and
support.
B
H
That's
the
mayor
stated
he
has
a.
He
has
a
that's,
not
a
conflict
interest
on
BCD
cog,
but
he
had
acknowledged
that
he
serves
on
the
board
of
BCD
cog.
So
the
question
is
a
group
that
comes
in
on
bicycles,
right
and
in
other
groups.
Another
group
came
in
and
on
MUSC
recently
got
a
wolf
$600,000,
so
the
question
then
becomes
again:
is
there
any
ordinance
put
in
place
because
the
governor
has
ceded?
H
That
is
an
issue
with
City
Council,
County,
Council
and
school
boards,
but
possible
undoing
undue
influences
over
these
bodies
and
the
criterion
methods.
You
can
have
criterion,
method
and
arranges
under
my
title:
six,
the
Civil
Rights
Act,
so
I'm
really
concerned
in
terms
of
you
getting
arts
ordinance
establishing
you
telling
everybody
you
have
some
conflicts.
Thank.
N
Mayor
council,
my
name
is
Fanny
Brennan
I'm
here
representing
Charleston
moves.
We
are
obviously
very
much
in
support
of
this
amended
ordinance.
As
mr.
Morgan
said,
the
rethink
Follies
3
committee
is
already
in
support
of
this.
We
feel
like
this
would
be
a
really
great
complement
to
the
talents
existing
multi-use
path
requirement,
as
well
as
the
bike
parking
ordinance
that
went
through
their
first
reading
last
week
and
was
approved
unanimously.
N
O
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
members
of
council,
my
name
is
Jason
Crowley,
director
of
communities
and
transportation.
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
issue,
but
do
want
to
offer
our
support.
We
sit
on
the
rethink,
folly,
Road
committee
and
also
are
in
favor
of
this
for
all
the
reasons
that
miss
Brennan
just
stated.
Thank
you
very
much.
Anyone.
M
B
B
G
Is
a
recent
annexation
114
tall,
Oak
Avenue?
It
was
recently
annexed
into
the
city.
It
was
r4
in
Charleston
County.
The
recommendation
in
the
city
is
SR
to
the
surrounding
zonings
in
this
neighborhood
in
the
city
are
sr
to
so
that
would
be
most
compatible
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
Planning
Commission
and
staff
recommend
that
zoning
all.
B
G
And
the
final
item
is
e
7.
This
is
a
portion
of
bender
Street.
This
is
the
property
the
city
recently
purchased
for
the
bender
Street
Park.
It
had
not
been
zoned
previously
and
we
needed
a
zone
for
the
park
so
we're
going
to
zone
it.
The
way
the
surrounding
property
is
zone
which
is
SR,
2
and
Planning.
Commission
staff
recommend
approval
with
that
request.
Would.
G
B
B
Anyone
else
all
in
favor,
please
say
hi
any
opposed
now
for
third
reading
and
ratification
of
motion
all
in
favor,
please
say
hi
any
opposed
the
eyes
habit.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
next
is
approval
of
our
City
Council
minutes.
We
have
any
additions,
deletions
improvements,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
you
oppose
the
eyes.
Have
it
next?
Is
our
citizens
participation
period?
We
have
a
number
of
folks
who
have
signed
up
I.
B
H
Saw
the
minister
last
meeting
was
not
on
the
record.
That's
why
I'm
here
tonight
I
understand
clearly
the
Attorney
General
South
Carolina
yesterday,
South
Carolina
in
you
basically
have
defined
me
under
Rule
64
at
a
federal
court
a
certain
way.
Forty
many
people,
this
country
cannot
even
plead
poverty
in
America
I.
Did
this
as
an
example
for
40
million
people,
this
country,
who
can't
even
plead
in
federal
or
state
court
at
all?
That's
why
I
did
this
not
for
the
money
not
for
the
notoriety
before
the
people.
Thank
you,
sir.
Q
And
so
we
just
want
to
say
to
you.
Thank
you.
We
see
the
stand
you
are
taking.
We
appreciate
it
and
we
support
it
and
City
Council's
are
all
across
the
nation
are
doing
things
similar
to
what
you're
doing
and
you're
not
alone
in
opposing
the
state
and
the
federal
government
on
this
hi.
Thank
you
so
much.
B
R
Name
is
Will
Green
I
live
at
3
Percy
Street
I'm
here
to
discuss
a
matter
that
was
withdrawn
would
be
the
second
item
on
23
zoning
I'm
23
Felix
Street
I
want
a
for
the
record
his
state
that
we
believe
I
live
in
a
similar
situation.
I
think
the
zoning
laws
how
this
house
is
zoned
is
not
to
be
need
to
be
episode
because
we're
and
it's
the
most
installation
on
Percy
Street,
where
I'm
right
next
to
it
I
think
the
lines
need
to
be
drawn
firm.
When
it
comes
to
zoning.
I
S
Good
afternoon,
Luke
Daniels
former
president
calls
from
place
current
president
of
Austin
village,
talking
about
the
noise
ordinance
and
as
it's
currently
written
I
would
want
to
express
that
the
it's
supposed
to
be
effective
in
three
months.
Can
we
make
it
now,
please
a
number
of
have
lost
too
much
sleep,
also,
the
exemption
for
concrete-pouring
that
as
well,
that
wakes
us
up
at
3
a.m.
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
Joe
Cannon,
okay,
hit
them,
Rachel,
hide
and
Jason,
coy.
T
Rachel
hi
in
36
bogart
Street
good
afternoon
mr.
mayor
and
members
of
the
City
Council.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
I'm
here
to
express
my
opposition
to
episode,
23
Felix,
Street
I
know.
The
item
was
withdrawn,
but
I'd
like
to
give
a
few
comments
for
the
record.
Our
neighborhood
has
a
balance
of
commercial
and
residential
properties
reflecting
historic
patterns
of
use.
If
homes
on
residential
streets
are
permitted
to
up
zone,
it
will
upset
the
balance
in
our
neighborhood
and
create
dangerous
precedent
for
everyone.
T
There's
a
very
real
financial
incentive
to
convert
residential
homes
into
short-term
rentals
in
Charleston.
Our
neighborhood
will
cease
to
exist
as
we
know
it.
If
long-term
residents
are
incentivized
to
sell
to
investors
for
unprecedented
prices,
this
will
also
perpetuate
the
affordable
housing
crisis
on
the
peninsula.
My
family
loves
our
neighborhood
and
appreciates
your
careful
consideration
of
any
future
episode
and
requests
by
the
owner
of
23
Felix
Street.
Thank
you
for
your
lying.
U
My
name
is
Jason
Coyle
live
at
31,
Bogart,
Street
I
can't
say
any
better
than
that,
but
I
am
also
up
here
to
urge
you
to
deny
the
request
for
rezoning
at
23
Felix.
For
the
very
same
reasons,
and
in
addition
for
what
I
think
the
livability
cost
would
be
for
a
proliferation
of
STRs
in
our
neighborhood
Thank
You
Bret.
B
V
Mr.
mayor
members
of
council,
my
name
is
Andrew
wonderly
I'm,
your
Charleston
Waterkeeper
I'm
here
tonight
to
say
thank
you
to
Councilwoman,
Jackson,
councilman,
Raza,
pal
and
Councilman
Gregory
and
mr.
mayor.
Thank
you
for
your
support
on
the
James
Island
Creek
issue.
We've
been
sampling
now
seven
years.
V
Our
data
shows
that
the
creek
is
not
safe
for
recreational
use
and
in
those
seven
years,
I
finally
feel
like
we're
at
a
point
now
with
the
James
Island
Creek
task
force,
where
we
have
the
momentum,
we
have
the
framework
and
we
have
the
ability
to
move
forward
to
really
make
sure
that
this
Creek
is
safe
for
recreational
use,
it's
safe
for
fishing
for
paddling
and
we
can
really
come
together
as
community
take
responsibility
for
it,
take
ownership
and
ensure
that
it's
clean
for
future
generations.
So
thank
you
for
your
leadership.
M
Attend
consummate
who
voted
on
the
19th,
both
burying
the
barrier
of
racism
when
they
took
their
poll
that
10,
they
all,
should
be
highly
recommended.
You
shouldn't
get
the
Nobel
Peace
Prize
that
they
have
one
for
the
ten
city.
Councilmen
racism
is
dead
and
it
was
buried
on
the
19th
we're
talking
about
zoning.
Now
the
power
is
back
in
the
hand
of
the
people.
We
do
not
suffer
from
racism
to
keep
the
black
and
white
thing
going,
so
the
crooks
could
get
the
money.
M
When
you
rob
a
bank
you
put
a
mass
on
and
when
they
get
in
trouble,
they
bring
the
black
and
white
issue
that
boat
with
y'all
did
on
the
19th
should
have
been
in
all
the
newspaper,
but
it
wasn't
in
the
newspaper.
None
of
that
was
on
television.
It
should
be
happy
to
provide
it
for
y'all.
Thank
you,
sir.
W
My
name
is
Sally
Eisenberg
12
Capitol
Street.
My
intention
was
to
speak
about
23
Felix
Street,
which
we
know
has
been
withdrawn
and
I
was
going
to
say
that
my
issue
was
that
the
applicant
had
bypassed
our
neighborhood
association
in
that
application
and
I
thought
that
that
was
problematic,
because
that
was
against
the
normal
protocol
and
procedures
and
I
thought
it
was
kind
of
a
waste
of
the
valuable
time
here
at
City
Council.
So.
X
Phil
Dustin
Bergen
Creek,
Road,
John's
Island.
Mr.
mayor,
congratulations
on
using
the
Dutch
dialogues.
It's
a
photo
op
for
your
re-election
work
that
very
well
I
think
it's
a
sort
of
political
genius.
Charleston's
now
back
to
usual,
though,
the
destruction
continues.
Phil
and
build
is
continuing,
just
rolling
right
through
John's
Island
and
James
Island
and
tonight's
City
Council
will
get
two
more
opportunities
to
bring
us
closer
to
destroying
the
lives
of
more
residents
and
the
housing
market
in
Charleston.
Adding
a
foot
to
base
flood
elevation
will
have
serious
consequences
for
current
homeowners.
X
There
were
unfortunate
enough
to
get
flooded
out
in
the
future.
An
adoption
of
the
new
stormwater
manual
will
continue
to
allow
the
wrong
kind
of
development
in
the
wrong
places,
which
will
continue
to
flood
out
neighboring
longtime
residents,
as
well
as
decreased
Charleston's
resilience
to
the
vicious
weather
of
global
climate
change.
Charleston
needs
to
slop,
stop
sloppy
building
in
the
floodplain
David
Wagner,
whom
I
think
you
all
heard
of
the
Dutch
dialogue
said.
X
Y
Mayor
Tek,
Limburg
members,
the
council,
my
name,
is
Marian
Hawkins
I
am
president
date
of
Kenna
Barbara
neighborhood.
Even
though
the
item
I
took
point,
three
Felix
Street
was
withdrawn
just
when
it
convey
our
concern
to
Council
on.
We
are
seeing
a
series
of
requests
for
up
zones
of
residential
properties,
contrary
to
popular
belief.
Most
of
Cantabria
bura
is
residential,
with
exception
of
the
main,
the
commercial
corridors,
the
spring
cannon
parts
of
st.
Philip's,
so
we've
we've
been
vigorously
about.
Y
O
O
Both
members
of
the
committee
have
been
taking
upon
themselves
to
meet
with
folks
as
well
as
your
staff,
and
we
hope
that
you
continue
to
do
that
after,
but
you
passed
third
reading
tonight
to
incur
continue
to
educate
the
public
about
what
will
be
coming
into
effect
in
July
and
with
regard
to
the
freeboard
ordinance.
I'd
be
remiss
to
not
go
back
to
my
original
comments
when
this
was
first
brought
up
under
the
previous
council
last
year
and
encourage
you
all
to
go
back
to
the
original
language.
O
This
should
be
a
uniform
amendment
back
to
raising
the
freeboard
across
all
forms
of
the
city
to
two
feet
and
to
also
add
in
language
that
says
that
you
cannot
use
fill
material
to
meet
the
freeboard
requirements.
So
we
encourage
you
to
to
go
back
to
that
original
language.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
B
B
We
have
resolution
to
maybe
take
1
&
2
together,
they're
related
okay,
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
posed
the
eyes.
Have
it
number
3?
We
really
got
this
update
last
week
at
our
workshop
meeting,
so
we're
just
gonna
pass
right
over
number
3,
because
Katie
I
don't
need
to
know
if
she's
here
tonight,
but
she
gave
us
a
report
on
that
last
week.
So,
right
on
to
our
council
committee
reports,
first
committee
on
community
community
development
helps
remember
Mitchell
all
right.
We're.
V
B
B
I
will
say
briefly:
we
we
talked
about
this
at
a
prior
meeting
that
we
felt
like
we
needed
to
oppose
this
legislation
and
Columbia
regarding
business
licenses,
but
our
interests
were
protected
by
the
Municipal
Association.
A
good
compromise
was
reached,
so
we
we
now
are
in
faith
development.
Oh,
oh
I'm!
So
sorry,
I'm
thinking
about
this,
we
have
an
abandoned
building,
but
we
won't
have
to
talk
about
licensing.
We
got
the
same
Committee
Chairman,
so
I
was
confused.
B
E
I
B
I
Us
very
briefly,
because
I
think
it's
gonna
be
of
some
interest
to
the
members
on
this
table.
Today
at
the
traffic
and
transportation
committee
which
we
met
at
2:30,
we
had
representatives
of
the
sed
ot
and
our
committee,
and
actually
not
just
any
representatives.
We
had
Tim
Anderson,
who
is
the
head
of
district
six.
I
We
had
Josh
Johnson
and
Kevin
Turner
who's,
head
of
bridges
and
other
other
large-scale
projects,
and
it
was
an
opportunity
for
us,
as
the
committee
to
take
a
look
and
across
the
table
at
members
of
the
d-o-t
and
tell
them
about
some
of
our
concerns
about
things
that
need
to
be
done
here,
and
we
also
learned
some
things
so
district
6,
which
is
where
we
sit
in
the
middle
of
district
6,
which
mr.
Henderson
runs,
encompasses
counties
it's
somewhere.
I
They
weren't
quite
sure,
between
four
and
six
thousand
miles
of
roads
and
one
of
the
things
they
do
is
maintain
and
repave
those
roads
and
just
for
y'all's
cocktail
talk
later
on
or
wherever
you
might
be
guess
how
many
miles
of
the
four
to
six
thousand
miles
of
roads
that
are
under
the
jurisdiction
of
district
six
were
repaved
in
2019,
and
those
of
you
on
the
committee
are
disqualified.
Well,
who
are
there
this
quick
guess
thirty-five?
So
if
it's
four
thousand
it's
less
than
1%,
so
we
are
any
very
going
at
a
slow
pace.
I
Now
we
heard
last
week
from
TST
and
other
people,
the
county,
throw
these
going
on,
but
it
is
slow.
So
people
in
your
district
council
members
are
asking
about
repaving
and
the
like.
They'll
give
you
a
less.
There
is
a
criteria
which
is
not
it's
not
that
manipulable
by
human
input,
because
they
have
a
point
scoring
system
mandated
by
the
legislature,
but
it's
just
a
slow
go
in
a
slow
process.
I
I
We've
got
an
open
line
of
communication
now
so,
if
you've
got
issues
in
your
district
regarding
sed
ot
projects,
maintenance
questions,
routing
them
through
our
committee,
we'll
get
you
answers,
I
think
they
were
there
to
listen
today
and
we
had
some
specifics
for
them
and
I
think
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
So
thank.
W
I
B
Z
Z
B
A
AA
W
Z
AB
My
concern
is
still
regarding
the
concrete
or
and
I
think
there
was
a
somewhere.
There
was
a
miscommunication
in
there
and
my
intention
I
do
appreciate
very
much.
The
48
hours,
notice
and
I
think
that's
imperative
to
keep
him
there,
but
I
also
wanted
to
see
that
you
would
still
need
to
get
that
permit
for
a
special
exemption
if
you're
doing
a
concrete
pour
in
the
wee
hours
of
the
morning.
So
it's
a
student
like
a
two-step
process
in
regards
to
concrete
so.
B
J
If
you
only
had
one
item
in
that
item
was
on,
this
is
for
information
purposes.
They'll
be
only
motion
on
that.
The
staff
will
come
back
once
they
have
to
do
all
the
particulars
to
that
particular
particular
legislation
and
then
able
to
come
back
to
the
license
committee
baby,
we'll
bring
it
back
to
count
absolutely
all.
B
Right
we'll
bring
it
in
conformance
with
the
new
state
law.
Thank
you
very
much
committee
on
recreation,
councilmember
Gregory
is
not
what
this
he
was
kind
of
feeling.
Well
what
anybody
that
was
there
I've
got
there
late
like
to
make
a
report
on
yesterday's
Committee
on
recreation.
Sure
I
will
count
a
memory
leak.
Yes,
we
were
all
downstairs.
Another
meeting.
K
Actually,
items
a
and
B
we
just
kind
of
went
through
very
quickly
we're
going
to
be
trying
to
come
up
with
the
funding,
but
we
didn't
have
all
of
that.
All
that
information
yet
and
mr.
Kriens
Berg
went
through
discussing
some
of
these
updates
and
he'd
like
to
come
forward
and
do
that
we'd
appreciate
it.
You,
okay
with
this.
AC
AC
Yeah,
that's
yeah!
That's
coming
off
so
I'm
a
customer
Gregor.
You
asked
me
to
give
an
update
on
some
of
the
projects.
Recreation
related,
so
I'm,
just
gonna
go
through
these
quickly,
1099
King
Street.
That
project
is
under
way
as
far
as
this
in
the
BA
our
review.
So
once
we
get
ba
our
review
back,
we
anticipate
in
April.
We
are
the
CDs
in
permitting
the
construction
documents.
We
then
jump
right
into
big
bidding
and
construction
in
September.
AC
If
any
of
you've
been
the
Daniel
Island.
The
Dania
on
rec
center
is
moving
right
along
it's
on
schedule,
framing
and
slab
or
continues
vertical.
Steel
is
going
in
so
that
project
continues
and
it's
on
track
for
substantial
completion
in
October
we're
looking
at
a
sometime
in
January,
opening,
Saint
Julian,
Devine
community
center,
the
building
interior
and
exterior
renovation
work
is
about
50%,
complete
and
that
contract
date
is
in
late
June
for
completion,
the
site,
work
and
playground.
Renovations
is
currently
currently
out
to
bid.
AC
So
we
hope
to
get
good
bids
back
and
then
a
70
day
construction
period,
which
will
complete
that
project
and
it'll
be
a
well
deserved
upgrade
to
that
facility.
Car
Richardson,
Park,
formerly
known
as
bender
Street,
is
in
TRC
for
permitting
so
we
enter
that
that
project
will
go
out
to
bid
in
April
WPIAL
the
former
wwp
al
radio
site.
We
are
in
contract
negotiations
with
the
design
team.
As
soon
as
we
get
that
contract
ironed
out,
it
will
come
to
you
for
approval
and
we
anticipate
a
10
to
12
month
design
process.
AC
AC
We
have
Moultrie
playground
renovation
moving
right
along
working
with
the
Charleston
Parks
Conservancy
we're
looking
at
of
May
7th
ribbon-cutting
we're
working
on
schedules
for
that
Muni
golf
course
is
moving
along
quite
nicely
as
well.
The
entire
back
nine
has
been
torn
up
and
the
shapers
are
out
there
shaping
greens
and
everything
is
moving
along
nicely
lots
of
Earth's
work
going
on
stony
field
improvements,
as
a
lot
of
you
have
seen.
The
the
project
is
moving
along
nicely
as
well.
AC
Lighting
should
be
read
completed,
but
the
end
of
this
week
or
next
all
of
the
stands
have
been
resurfaced
and
recoded
you'll
have
a
cut.
You
approved
a
contract
tonight
for
all
the
new
seating
and
fencing
and
gates
going
in
and
out
of
the
concourse
areas,
working
with
the
school
district
on
the
field
component
and
the
track
component,
looking
for
them
to
get
that
project
underway
and
then
in
the
coming
months
after
the
start,
charge
is
complete,
getting
their
bike
way
resurfacing,
weather
permitting
that
current
project
should
be
completed
about
two
weeks.
AC
K
AD
AD
Now
I
talked
with
each
of
our
four
new
council
members
who
weren't
on
the
council,
as
this
was
discussed
and
presented
to
us
I
think
over
a
couple
of
different,
pretty
extensive
work
sessions
and-
and
they
really
don't
understand
or
I,
have
to
pull
background
for.
Why
we're
doing
this
and
what
we're
doing
and
so
I
feel
like.
We
deserve
to
look
at
this
again
as
a
council.
AD
So
I
feel
like
this
has
been
deferred
for
a
long
time,
but
we-
we
really
do,
owe
it
to
ourselves
to
make
a
very
good
and
fulsome
decision
about
this.
For
the
five-year
impact
that
we're
creating
I've
always
appreciate
councilmember
Waring's
reasons
for
wanting
to
make
it
a
better
program
for
property
owners
that
are
vulnerable
to
flooding
without
having
proper
coverage.
But.
AD
That
there
are
better
ways
to
do
that:
we've
never
really
explored
how
we
might
be
making
that
as
an
alternative
offering
to
our
citizens
who
were
in
that
category
and
so
for
all
those
reasons.
I
just
think
we
should
defer
it
tonight
and
give
ourselves
a
chance
to
really
have
a
fulsome
presentation
by
mr.
Joker.
I
know
that
the
Public
Works
Committee
went
very
late
last
night,
and
so
he
wasn't
on
the
docket
I
mean
he
was
there
and
he
was
ready.
AD
B
AE
I'm
gonna,
obviously,
second,
that
but
I'm
not
gonna
speak
for
that
for
the
new
members.
For
me,
it's
just
information
that
I'm
not
aware
of
I'd,
like
to
reach
back
out
to
my
folks
in
my
community.
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
speak
with
mr.
former
councilman
Lewis,
so
I
definitely
want
to
do
my
due
diligence
to
make
sure
that
I
make
the
right
decision
and
represent
my
constituents.
So
that
bet
for
me
that'd,
be
the
reason
I
deferred
well.
B
When
you
build
new
construction
in
the
city
of
Charleston,
we've
seen
a
sea
level
rise
for
over
foot
in
the
last
hundred
years.
The
last
twenty
years
has
been
half
of
that
increase.
Our
projections
are
for
another
two
to
three
feet
in
the
next
50
years.
It's
very
reasonable
that
we
come
into
compliance
with
the
rest
of
of
the
region
and
and
I
did
want
to
make
clear
that
all
the
discussion
that
we
had
about
protecting
those
who
have
existing
homes,
you
know,
have
been
taken
taken
out
of
the
equation.
So
to
speak.
B
With
this
amendment,
it
doesn't
mean
we
can't
come
back
and,
and
talk
about
that
and
and
those
and
I
was
I
was
a
little
uplifted
that
the
the
South
Carolina
House
of
Representatives
has
put
forth
a
resilient,
fun
and
I
think
it
will
pass
into
law.
I
was
reading
it
the
other
day,
and
they
will
make
funds
available
to
folks
that
need
us
at
direct
assistance
if
they
needed
to
elevate
their
house.
B
B
The
stormwater
regs
that
I
hope
will
pass
in
just
a
few
minutes,
become
effective,
July
1,
so
I
thought
it
was
appropriate,
at
least
for
new
construction
to
go
ahead,
and
let
builders
know
what
the
rules
of
the
game
are.
That
not
only
do
you
have
the
new
stormwater
regs,
but
you
also
have
the
2
foot
above
free
board,
so
that
was
the
intent
of
bringing
that
forward.
Let
me
just
see
if
anybody
else
would
like
those
he
heard:
councilmember
Shane.
Yes,.
E
E
Current
residential
communities
and
the
second
question
is:
we've
talked
about
the
impact
that
the
ordinance
has
on
forgot.
The
metric
system
we're
using
this
either
a
point
system
that
has
an
impact
on
our
flood
insurance.
So
we
passed
this
ordinance
as
written,
and
someone
can
respond
to
this
from
the
storm
water
department.
Perhaps
would,
in
fact,
if
any,
does
this
have
on
that
point
system,
that,
with
lower
residences
or
property
owners,
flood
insurance,
I'm.
B
F
Good
evening,
everybody
so
the
the
way
that
that
the
majority
of
the
different
elements
in
the
community
rating
system
are
organized
are
in
kind
of
an
all-or-nothing
type
format,
and
there
are
certain
levels
within
some
of
the
elements
that
you
can
kind
of.
Progressively
get
more
points,
the
more
that
you
regulate.
F
Freeboard
is
one
of
those,
so
there
there's
kind
of
a
certain
point
threshold.
If
you,
if
you
do
a
free
board
of
one
foot
and
then
there
are
additional
points,
if
you
do
a
two
foot
free
board-
and
there
are
additional
points,
if
you
do
a
three
foot
free
board
by
having
a
two
foot
free
board
for
well,
let
me
back
up
to
answer
your
first
question.
F
None
of
the
other
jurisdictions
that
that
neighbor
us
that
have
a
free
board
of
either
one
or
two
feet.
None
of
them
have
exemptions
to
that.
It
is
an
across-the-board
requirement,
and
that
is
the
way
that
the
CRS
is
structured
on
free
board.
Is
that
you
that
the
requirement
is
intended
to
be
for
all
new
construction
and
substantial
improvement?
And-
and
that
is
how
the
points
are
allocated.
F
E
P
P
You
know,
I
read
the
posting
curve
today
and,
and
they
they
talked
about
this
in
their
it
said
that
it's
impacted
20
homes
in
the
last
five
years,
since
we
moved
from
one
foot
to
two
foot,
so
we're
talking
about
20
homes,
out
of
thousands
and
thousands
and
thousands
around
our
city
also,
to
be
honest,
to
be
frank,
I
couldn't
care
less.
What
other
jurisdictions
are
at
number
one
we're
the
biggest
city
in
the
state
of
South
Carolina
we
are,
the
biggest
municipality
were
much
larger
than
Charleston
County.
P
They
have
very
few
homes
compared
to
what
we
have
I,
get
it
North
Charleston
and
not
Pleasant
or
similar,
but
I'm
not
going
to
be
beholden
to
what
other
people
are
doing.
I
think
we
have
to
set
the
example
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
and
it's
counterproductive
to
say
that
we're
going
to
be
tough
on
things
like
fill
and
build
and
then
raise
the
freeboard
requirement
and
have
nothing
in
here
that
says
that
you,
you
don't
have
to
limit
the
amount
of
fill
that
you
do
to
get
to
that
point.
P
That
is
being
hypocritical
and
that's
what
we're
doing
and
so
I
don't
support
it.
I'll
support
a
deferral,
because
I
think
that
our
four
council
members
deserve
to
have
a
little
bit
of
time
to
get
to
know
this
thing,
but
this
thing
has
evolved
into
a
went
from
a
snowball
and
now
it's
this
big
avalanche.
C
I
appreciate
everything
everyone
said
so
far
and
I
agree
with
councilmember
saccharin
on
the
due
diligence
piece
by
think.
Philosophically
one
of
the
roles
that
we
exercise
as
municipal
government
is
trying
to
ensure
that
we
do
the
most
good
for
the
largest
amount
of
people
and
ensuring
that
we
can
get
the
CRS
points
and
help
people
get
that
reduction.
I
think
it's
incumbent
on
us
and
I
also
to
share
councilmember
Griffin's
frustration
on
seeing
a
lack
of
having
not
I
should
say
not
allowing
Phil
to
be
used.
C
AD
You
I
I,
really
appreciate
the
conversation.
I
am
gonna
vote
for
deferral.
I
just
wanted
to
make
the
record
clear
mayor
I'm,
not
against
the
two-foot
freeboard
I
would
like
it
to
be
all
are
done.
I
think
that
we
can
help
people
that
might
be
vulnerable
to
a
substantial
rehabilitation
needing
to
elevate
their
house
in
ways
that
would
make
sense
for
those
individuals
but
I.
AD
AD
J
Mayor
councilmembers
colleagues
I
understand
what
you're
saying
that
the
new
council
members
coming
aboard
when
I
came
by
was
new
one
time
and
I
had
to
go
to
a
whole
lot
of
things.
I
mean
it
didn't
make
any
difference.
If
I
came
here
one
day
two
days,
things
went
on
and
I
understand.
We
have
to
catch
up
with
some
catching
up,
but
we
were
talking
about
this
for
a
long
time.
J
I
mean
a
very,
very,
very,
very
long
time
and
even
with
what's
in
place
now
it
took
a
while
for
us
to
get
to
that
point
and
I
think
if
we
keep
waiting
waiting
waiting
waiting,
we
talked
about
Pilar,
they
can
be
talking
about
this.
We
talked
some
of
the
people
here,
don't
even
know
what
the
plane
was
about
cause.
It
was
not
even
here
you
know,
so
we
have
to
get
this
done.
Even
if
we
do
it
first
ring
and
we
have
to
come
back
and
do
some
tweaking
to
it.
J
We
have
to
move
along
and
get
things
going
because
we
don't
we're
standing
still.
You
know,
and
things
are
still
going
on.
I'm
gonna
call
what
we
mentioned
about
North
Charleston.
Yesterday
I
spoke
to
the
mayor
about
my
placement.
Yesterday
also,
he
said
we
lost
with
the
two
they
having
a
committee
coming
together
to
try
to
form
a
committee
to
try
to
even
deal
with
me.
We
say
because
so
much
building
is
going
on
in
the
area
also,
but
we
need
to
start
somewhere
and
I
mean
look
at
the
list
of
people
who
needs.
J
We
have
to
look
at
them.
We
are
here
sitting
in
these
seats
here
and
I
said.
Don't
look
at
them
because
I
owe
them
I
can't
be
able
to
forward,
but
then
you
hate
me
throw
them
under
the
bus.
No,
that's
not
what
it's
all
about.
We
have
to
look
at
them.
I
might
be
purposely
doing
things
a
lot
of
other
people
couldn't
do
you
know
we
have
houses,
that's
vote
on
slabs.
They
not
gonna.
Be
able
to
do
that.
So
we
are
talking
about
new
construction.
J
Now,
if
we
approve
this
now,
we
can
always
come
back
and
be
tweet
things
and
look
at
it
differently.
But
this
is
what
I'm
saying,
but
we
have
to
move
forward
and
stop
defer,
defer,
defer
and
defer,
and
every
taught
me
the
Fertile
next
year
sometime
and
we
still
be
in
the
same
place
again
next
year,
because
some
well
stuck
on
like
what's
on
that
particular
ordinance.
We
have.
We
need
to
change
this.
We
need
change
that
we
need
to
move
on
and
make
changes
as
we
go
along.
That's
what
you
do
so.
B
I'm
gonna
call
the
question
yeah
you
you've
had
to
two
times,
I
would
respectfully
say
in
an
agreement
with
councilmember
Mitchell
that
we
can
come
back
to
bring
forth
another
amendment
to
cover
and
have
a
more
detailed
study
and
analysis
of
the
existing
homes.
We're
gonna
repeat
a
lot
of
that
discussion.
This
would
respectfully
get
the
requirement
for
new
construction
consistent
with
our
new
stormwater
manual
and
I
would
respectfully
say
that
in
regards
to
fill,
those
issues
are
in
fact
covered
in
the
new
stormwater
manual
itself.
B
AF
AG
We've
certainly
had
a
large
amount
of
discussion
historically
on
this,
but
it's
the
the
fill
component
is
a
slightly
different
approach.
It's
true,
the
stormwater
manual
does
not
ban
fill.
It
puts
limitations
on
the
use
of
fill.
So
what,
if
you
were
to
fill
to
raise
a
home
for
base
base
flood
elevation
a
net
in
your
two
feet
for
your
board?
You
would
have
to
account
for
how
that
fill
is
impacting
us
from
water
on
site,
but
it
wouldn't
prevent
you
from
being
able
to
use
that
fill
to
do
your
elevation,
but.
B
B
B
I
Z
L
B
AE
AE
Wanted
to
I'm
just
gonna
go
on
record
to
say
and
I
am
in
favor
of
the
ordinance
as
it's
written,
but
I
have
other
additional
questions
as
a
new
member
and
I
have
to
do
due
diligence,
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
to
vote
so
I'm
in
favor.
I.
Just
I
just
need
some
time
to
think
things
to
do
and
I've
got
questions
right
well,.
Z
Remember
wearing,
let
me
ask
about
the
new
council
members
and
the
information
that
they
would
like
to
get
confidence.
Akron
saved.
Some
of
the
information
I
mean
you
need
to
talk
to
some
constituents
I
get
that
in
two
weeks:
brilliant
councilman
Lewis.
Can
we
hear
from
mr.
Brady
mr.
Chappel
councilman
Ross
as
far
as
because
I
think
you
all
and
I
won't
put
words
in
your
mouth
I?
Think
you
all
an
agreement
on
nuke
inspect.
Yes!
So
when
it
comes
to
the
question
them
to
come,
existing
homes.
AF
Long
time
ago,
you
can't
get
everything
you
want
all
the
time.
I
think
that
this
ordinance
as
it
sits
today
and
as
presented
to
us
today
for
third,
we
act
an
opportunity
to
move
the
ball
forward
down
the
field.
It's
not
as
far
as
I'd
like
I'd
like
to
see
it
go
personally,
I'm
very
sympathetic
to
Councilwoman
Jackson's
point
of
view,
but
here
we
have
an
opportunity
to
do
something
that
will
impact
new
construction
it'll,
make
new
construction
more
resilient.
AF
We
have
an
opportunity
to
make
progress
on
that
issue
today
and
I
defer
to
the
forth
of
prior
council
in
the
discussions
that
were
happening
at
that
point.
This
is
a
compromised
position.
I
respect
the
work
that
went
into
that
process.
Prior
to
my
time
here,
I
read
the
ordinance
over
the
weekend.
I've
studied
up
on
it.
I
had
some
questions
about
film
at
address
that
concern
I.
Think
we,
let's
not
let
perfect,
be
the
enemy
of
the
good
and
I
think
we
ought
to
move
the
ball
down
the
field.
My.
P
L
L
B
I
P
P
AA
Z
AA
E
E
Part
of
number
one,
but
my
suggestion
is
number
K
Thank
You.
Mr.
mayor,
my
suggestion
is,
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
questions
particularly
with
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
respectful
of
these
new
council
members,
questions
and
I
think
we
need
to
get
some
clarification
as
to
the
impact
that
this
has
on
people's
flood
insurance
premiums.
In
any
more
information
we
can
gather
on
that
I
think
is
critical
to
our
citizens
that
they.
B
AD
You
mr.
mayor
since
I
was
on
this
to
vote
against
the
motion,
my
understanding
is
I
would
have
the
right
to
move
for
a
reconsideration
of
the
ordinance.
I
would
like
to
move
for
reconsideration
of
this
ordinance
by
striking
all
of
the
amended
sections
that
were
put
in
front
of
us
in
our
packet
this
and
go
back
to
the
third
reading
version.
That
was
a
that
was
on
our
deferred
agenda
as
of
the
last
meeting,
so
anything
in
there
that
was
added
this
meeting
that
would
that
was
making
the
substantial
rehab
situations
exempt.
AA
B
B
A
B
I
Very
briefly,
miss
Americas
I
know
everybody's
got
things
to
do,
but
number
two
is
the
construction
ordinance
I
want
a
first
because
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
do
it
during
committee
reports.
Thank
the
chairman
for
allowing
non-members
of
his
committee
not
just
to
appear
but
to
be
a
part
of
the
molding
of
this
ordinance,
and
he
was
very
gracious
than
doing
it
gave
us
a
lot
of
time
and
I
know
it
took
a
lot
of
the
people's
the
council
members
time.
So,
mr.
chairman,
thank
you
for
last.
I
I
I'm
gonna
vote
in
favor
this
tonight,
but
I
still
think
it
was
better
before
I
left
then
after
okay-
and
please
just
take
those
comments
because
I
do
think
by
striking
the
language
about
the
homeowner
and
putting
the
other
limitations
on
it
was
better
than
the
way
we've
done
it,
because
now
the
way
it's
reads
is
if
a
homeowner
is
substantially
doing
the
work
they're
not
subject
to
this.
It
makes
it
literally,
in
my
humble
opinion,
impossible
to
enforce
I
mean
how
do
you
walk
in
and
go
okay
homeowner?
I
Are
you
doing
substantially
all
this
work?
Are
you
I
mean
I,
just
don't
see
how
we
can
do
that.
The
way
we
did
it
before
was
we
put
a
dollar
and
we
put
a
line
item
on
it.
There
was
homeowner
work.
It
was
okay,
so
I'm
gonna
vote
to
give
the
second
reading
I
do
think
we
should
think
about
it
between
now
and
then
and
go
back
to
that
original
language.
That
was
just,
let
me
just
make
sure
I
got
it.
D
2,
&
3
we
struck
the
1
and
I.
I
AD
C
Just
wanted
to
publicly
thank
the
stormwater
department
for
coming
out
to
Johns
Island
the
other
night
and
despite
some
pushback
from
the
the
public
I
handled
it
very
professionally,
and
that's
a
kudos
to
you.
Mr.
mayor
in
the
city's
stormwater
department
and
kind
of
like
we've
been
talking
about,
the
stormwater
manual
may
not
solve
everything
that
everybody
wants
it
to,
but
we
have
to
move
the
football
as
far
as
we
can
down
the
field
and
I
think
it
does
a
great
job
of
doing
that
so
appreciate
it.
It's
great
councilmembers.
AB
I'll
speak
to
the
noise
ordinance
answer
the
stormwater
manual
first
to
the
noise
ordinance,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
my
my
intent
when
I
made
comments
during
the
committee
two
weeks
ago.
However,
many
ways
was
that
if
you
were
gonna
pour
concrete
in
the
wee
hours,
you
need
to
get
that
permit,
flushing
it
to
provide
notice
to
the
affected
residents
and
I.
Don't
this
doesn't
read
that
way,
and
maybe
it's
not
intended
to
I
would
like
that
to
be
considered
I
think.
AB
Overall,
it
could
be
a
lot
simpler
in
that
you
have
these
hours
that
you
can
and
cannot
work
in
unless
it's
an
emergency.
It's
on
the
public
right
away.
I
can't
imagine
Columbus
fury
road,
only
being
widened
between
9:00
and
5:00
9:00
a.m.
to
5:00
p.m.
Monday
rough
day,
and
you
know
or
work
underneath
a
certain
dollar
threshold,
because
I
think
that
protects
the
homeowner
trying
to
do
work
on
their
own
thorough
and
then
you
got
a
little
and
then
that
takes
care
of
concrete-pouring
needing
a
permit,
and
you
also
need
to
provide
48
hours.
AB
AB
They
can
download
a
white
noise
app
on
their
phone
and
the
meet
so
I
think
it
could
just
be
a
lot
simpler
and
a
lot
cleaner
and
make
things
easier
for
everyone
on
the
stormwater
designs,
manual,
I'm,
very
appreciative
of
Jacob
Lindsay
and
Eric
Schultz
and
pindy,
and
Bill
McKenzie
and
I
all
met
yesterday
and
discussed
at
length
how
certain
aspects,
impact,
trees
and
I
know.
You
and
I
spoke
briefly
about
this
this
morning
too,
and
so
I'd.
AB
Like
to
just
go
on
record
that
I
believe
there's
going
to
be
continued
dialogue
in
how
the
work
this
stormwater
manual
and
our
tree
ordinance
in
a
way
that
makes
sense
and
protects
nature
and
protects
those
trees
that
make
this
area.
So
special
I
also
want
a
little
bit
more
clarity
as
far
as
an
appeals
process
and
the
stormwater
manual
you
know
like
we
have
if
you
go
before
the
VAR
b
za,
and
you
want
to
appeal
it
I
guess.
I
would
just
like
to
understand
better
what
that
appeal
process
would
be
for
someone.
AD
B
A
I
B
AD
AD
And
then
the
other
documents
that
we
know
are
being
what
will
be
guiding
us
for
a
low-impact
development
and
all
of
the
opportunities
that
we
have
to
to
be
looking
at
our
land
in
new
ways.
As
we
come
up
with
our
comp
plan
for
2020,
as
well
as
immediate
measures
to
make
development
more
protective
in
response
to
the
to
the
climate
impacts.
That
we
know
are
I,
I,
think
in
a
perfect
world,
if
we
could
have
had
the
zoning
and
the
Planning
Unit
development
says.
P
Remember
Griffin.
Thank
you.
I'm
gonna
vote
against
number
three
at
night,
the
Emmanuel-
and
it's
pretty
simple
for
me
personally,
but
if
you've
come
out
to
my
district
and
met
with
the
people
that
live
out
there,
there's
areas
that
have
should
have-
and
if
you
went
out
and
pulled
my
district
and
asked
that
they
think
one
more
house
should
ever
be
built
in
district
10.
P
Maybe
we'll
have
more
opportunities
to
do
it,
as
this
manual
involves
more
and
we
tie
in
our
comprehensive
plan.
But
unfortunately,
I
can't
act
on
my
own
tonight.
I've
seen
the
faces
of
people
who
put
their
entire
life
savings
into
their
homes
and
had
to
pull
out
two
and
three
mortgages
on
their
properties
and
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
take
the
opportunity
to
say
that
this
isn't
strong
enough
for
district
10.
So
that's
why
I'm
voting
against
it.
Thank
you.
Any
other.
B
Comments
off
for
the
question
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye,
wait,
wait
we're
doing
one
in
three
here,
one
in
three,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
nay,
Oh!
Number,
three!
Alright,
the
eyes
have
it
now
for
third
reading
and
ratification.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
all
right.
Next
we
go
to
bill
number
one.
B
B
AD
B
AD
Even
though
this
is
a
brand
new
bill
for
first
reading,
this
type
of
change
to
change
the
the
lot
size
for
properties
has
been
appealed
to
us
by
the
Maryville
ashley
build
Neighborhood
Association
every
time
it's
come
before
us
and
or
the
Planning
Commission.
We
have
a
very
thorough
and
eloquent
letter
from
this
Diane
Hamilton
who's,
the
president
of
that
that
Neighborhood
Association
tonight
I
think
without
miss
Hamilton
here
to
answer,
but
it's
my
recollection
having
gone
to
the
Planning
Commission
when
this
was
brought
up
and
heard
her.
AD
She
and
her
neighbors
come
to
the
council
and
our
response
to
the
last
time.
It
was
Genda
in
a
different
format
that
we
said
we
would
work
hard
with
every
entire
to
how
we
might
be
able
to
exempt
Mary
bill.
Ashley,
though,
from
this
ordinance
as
a
historic
neighborhood
in
our
city,
on
its
way
to
having
a
national,
historic
designation,
so
I
personally
feel
responsible
to
continue
to
honor
that
pledge
I
I,
don't
know
how
to
do
that.
B
AD
L
B
AE
B
AA
L
AA
Can
I
clarify
a
procedural
point
earlier
we
were
talking
about
the
motion
to
reconsider
and
somebody
brought
up
what
we
had
done
in
the
chase
property
manner.
So
in
that
case-
and
this
is
may
sound
like
a
distinction
without
a
difference,
but
there
is
something
called
a
motion
to
renew
which
can
be
brought
up
at
the
next
session.
AA
So
if
someone,
if
a
council
member
who
voted
on
the
failing
on
the
prevailing
side,
which
would
be
against
the
ordinance
passing-
wants
to
put
it
back
on
the
agenda
next
time,
it
can
be
done
with
a
motion
to
renew
that's
approved
by
the
majority.
So
if,
if
that
is
what
some
council
member
wants
to
do,
I
think
you
need
to
notify
the
clerk's
office,
and
that
would
be
how
mr.