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City of Charleston Council Meeting - January 8,2019
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Now,
as
I
mentioned
so
happy
new
year,
everyone
I
hope
you
all
have
a
great
holiday
season
and
thanks
for
the
gift
car
I
hadn't
been
shopping
yet
but
I
plan
to
get
me
a
new
suit
sometime
soon
and
congratulations
to
the
Clemson
Tigers
number
one
football
team
in
the
nation
you
may
or
may
not
have
noticed
when
you
entered
City
Hall
today
that
the
tiger
paw
is
flying
above
City
Hall
on
this
day
in
in
their
honor.
So
we
congratulate
the
Tigers.
A
C
Rutherford,
a
tough
job,
sometimes
obviously
of
protein,
but
neither
for
the
city
to
move,
though
we
have
to
continue
to
do
the
work
that
will
supply
our
hands.
It's
representative
of
the
disk
city
connected
officials
and
I
take
everything.
I
do
see.
This
is
this
one
job
I
take
very
serious,
have
what
I
would
have
been
standing
up
for
23
years?
Thank
you.
A
So
next
we
have
our
2019
committee
and
Mayor
Pro
Tem
appointments
I
had
emailed
everyone
to
see
if
you
have
any
requests.
Frankly,
there
were
none,
so
the
committee
assignments
are
identical
to
2018
for
another
year.
I
have
asked
councilmember
shade
if
he
would
be
well
and
serve
as
mayor
pro-tem
for
this
year
and
without
objection
would
ask
for
your
approval,
councilmember
moody,
yeah.
E
I
want
to
do
I
kind
of
didn't
know
who
it
was
gonna
be,
but
I
did
ask
the
question
of
my
councilmen.
Where
they'd
been
asked,
they
said.
No,
you
know
we
get
to
elected
mayor
pro-tem
and
the
only
problem
and
I
don't
want
to
say
anything.
It's
against
mr.
I.
Don't
want
this
tape
but
as
I'm
gonna
be
running
for
reelection,
as
is
mr.
white
mr.
Lewis,
mr.
white
mr.
ware,
shade,
bootie
and
the
baby.
E
E
I
mean
I,
don't
know
who
I
didn't
admit.
My
name
could
have
been
on
there
and
I
would
hope
that
somebody
would
have
maybe
said
the
same
thing:
hey
you're
running
for
election.
You
know
it
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
an
advantage.
They
out
there
advertising!
That's
who
you
are
as
opposed
to
something
else.
Maybe
I'm
all
wrong
here,
but
I'll
just
see
what
counsel
says
and
maybe
that's
something
we
ought
to
do,
whether
we
do
it
tonight
or
not.
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A
Understand
that
and
you're
absolutely
right,
it
is
council's
decision
election.
If
you
will
to
to
elect
a
mayor
pro-tem
each
year,
that's
I
believe
in
our
city,
council
rules
and
guidelines,
I
guess
the
normal
practices
that
mayor
would,
in
effect,
nominate
someone
and
I.
Think
in
my
four
years
of
service,
that's
included,
mayor
mayor,
pro-tem,
wearing
and
then
seeking
and
then
Louis
and
now
shade.
I
didn't
have
a
lot
of
preponderance
about
the
election.
A
E
Abated
that,
if
someone
decided
to
run
for
mayor
to
oppose
you,
then
they
shouldn't
be
considered,
I
mean
that's
all
I'm
saying
is.
If
you
go
run
for
reelection,
that's
probably
there's
a
there's,
an
honor
associated
with
that
that's
important
and
there's
a
role.
That's
true
that
and
I
just
thought
they
ought
to
take
something
like
that
into
consideration.
I'm
not
gonna
die
on
this
plane.
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F
F
Me
Riley
appointed
me
Mayor
Pro
Tem,
and
that
was
a
year
after
I
ran
against
him
for
mayor,
so
I
just
think
that
the
precedent
is
our
chance
set
and
it's
it's
kind
of
tough
I
think
this
dive
started
changing
things
a
bit
now.
I
do
think
that
it
should
be
the
prerogative
of
the
mayor
to
make
that
nomination
and
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
it.
G
Me
just
a
big
two
announcements:
number
one
I'm
not
gonna
run
for
mayor
I
am
positive
on
our
equipment
there.
My
wife
has
already
threatened
to
leave
me
by
this
I,
even
thought.
If
I
had
that
thought
come
across
my
mind,
I
am
planning
to
run
for
reelection
in
my
district
and
I
hope
that
my
constituents
think
well
enough
of
me.
Regardless
of
whether
or
not
our
mayor
Pro
to
him
or
not
to
reelect
me,
maybe
I'll
have
opposition.
Maybe
I,
won't
and
I
talked
to
the
mayor
about
this
and
said
it's.
G
You
know
an
election
time.
You
are
busy
being
a
I'm
busy
one
of
my
aunt
law
office,
I'm
busy
being
City
Council
member
and
I'll
be
busy
doing
the
work
of
the
military,
which
I
think
is
one
of
the
highest
honors,
and
it
was
very
much
touched
and
humbled
by
the
mayor's
request.
I'm
asking
me
to
take
on
this
position
and
I
think
it
is
gonna,
be
time-consuming
and
I
will
take
that
on
with
a
high
level
of
sincerity
and
respect
that
it
deserves.
G
E
H
H
F
C
Samir
before
we
approve
the
committee's
I'm,
looking
at
the
budget
committee,
although
I'm
each
our
cheer,
which
is
a
trouble
job
I,
think
I've
been
a
board
meeting
in
each
other
last
year
and
I
think
I've
been
since
I've
been
on
City
Council,
but
the
budget
committee
constant
member,
we're
headed
next
year,
but
he
served
so
faithfully
so
good
on
what
committee
he
did
last
year.
That's
really
the
love
to
see
them
service
say
to
me:
oh
I
accepted.
K
A
That
was
a
quest
that
y'all
made
I.
Think
officially
I'd
like
to
continue
to
show
the
budget
committee
to
be
the
chairs
of
the
various
committees
over
time.
Those
chairmanships
will
change,
but
certainly
would
recognize
your
willingness
to
serve
in
councilmember
Lewis's
stead
on
the
budget
committee.
A
Yes,
yes,
sir,
any
further
discussion,
all
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes
habit.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
next
we
have
no
public
hearings,
and
so
we
have
one
city
to
council
minutes
to
approve
December
4th.
We
have
motion
any
changes,
suggestions
deletions
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
next
is
our
citizens
participation-
and
we
have
just
a
limited
number
of
folks
here
tonight
and
eliminate
number
of
folks
who
have
signed
up.
A
A
M
Mayor
city,
council,
Mohammadi,
trees,
I,
read
yesterday
an
article
by
Abigail
Darlington
and
it's
concerning
a
new
office
for
racial
bias
that
the
male's
that
you're
gonna
establish
every
time
and
city
officials
government
get
in
trouble.
They
start
dealing
with
the
black
and
white
issue.
This
City
Council
floors
out
last
year
charging
the
mayor
and
city
council
I'm
in
charge
in
the
mill
and
the
Planning
Committee
doing
the
wrong
thing.
The
75
25
percent
rule
where
the
Planning
and
Zoning
have
more
power
than
the
City
Council
look
like.
M
We
should
have
an
office
set
up
to
examine
that
instead
of
the
black
and
white
issue
every
time
the
trouble
start
to
bring
the
black
and
white
issue
together.
There's
no
black
and
white
legal
issue
in
Charleston,
South
Carolina
I
got
hurt
the
other
day
and
said
European
white
folks
picked
me
up,
took
me
to
the
hospital
and
I
woke
up
in
the
ambulance.
I
was
all
wrapped
up
and
I
say
I'm,
not
going
anyplace
that
you
are.
This.
M
Are
you
going
to
the
hospital
the
day
you
are
going
and
little
white
folks
in
Charleston,
South,
Carolina
and
I'm
75
years
old.
We
have
no
racial
problem
in
Charleston.
We
have
a
corrupt
problem
in
city
government
275,
25
percent
rule
is
a
corruption
where
the
voluntary
group
got
more
power
than
the
City
Council
the
same
before.
Guy
baby.
N
Oh
Happy
New
Year
and
you
know
I
just
it
dumb
pounds
me
where
do
I
sign
up
for
eight
hundred
thousand
dollar
contract
and
parlay
it
up
to
an
eight
million
dollar
contract.
I
want
I
want
a
piece
of
that.
It's
crazy
folks,
now,
I'll
be
perfectly
frank.
I've
done
some
work
on
a
job
than
here
motor
central
center.
That
Davis
and
Floyd
did
and
I'm
perfectly
frank.
They
did
a
horrible
job
over
there.
N
It
probably
ended
up
costing
probably
a
million
dollars
extra
because
of
the
screw-ups
and
the
stuff
they
didn't
do
right
or
just
totally
left
out
I
mean
I.
Had
a
storm
drain
going
right
across
a
bag.
Four
inch
gas
main
I'm
going.
How
do
you
do
that
didn't
do
their
job,
so
I
think
you
really
need
to
take
a
look
back
at
this
thing.
Next
thing
you
know
my
wife
basically
brought
it
up
to
me
again.
N
N
Councilman
Lewis
and
Mitchell
and
I
have
been
to
some
of
those,
and
let
me
tell
you
the
leaves
get
in
there,
then
the
sediments
that
settles
in
it's
costing
the
city
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
each
year,
because
we
can't
take
care
of
the
storm
drainage
system,
even
with
all
the
factor
trucks
and
with
Iggy's
and
Sanders
brothers.
You
got
to
stop
it.
You
need
to
start
putting
some
limits
on
work.
What
these
guys
can
blow
into
the
daggum
storm
drain
system.
Thank
you.
Thank.
O
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
changes
of
the
proposed
density
for
the
West
Side
neighborhood
from
Dr
to
f.2d,
r1f
I'm,
a
resident
of
downtown
Charleston
doing
one
of
our
meetings.
There
was
at
the
Westside
neighborhood
association.
There
was
a
proposal
to
rezone
the
area
and
the
stipulate
we
can
or
cannot
be
built
on
your
property
or
in
the
neighborhood
and
I
admit.
O
I,
wasn't
very
knowledgeable
of
this
proposal,
so
I
had
to
do
some
research
and
that's
why
I'm
here,
because
anything
that's
going
to
decrease
the
property
value
of
my
property,
then
you
know
I'm
against
it
and
I'm
here
to
let
my
City
Council
representative
know
that
not
only
do
I
feel
this
way,
but
there
are
other
neighbors
who
are
unable
to
be
here
because
of
work
issues
and
other
things.
They
feel
the
same
sediments
that
I
do,
and
hopefully
he
would
advocate
for
our
neighborhood
to
be
against
this.
Thank
you.
Thank.
P
P
P
P
P
Every
building
can't
be
the
same
in
the
city,
but
one
thing
you
can't
put
a
handcuff
on
people
property
just
because
you
feel
like
doing
something
to
upgrade
your
situation.
I
turn
against
your
neighbor.
So
please,
mr.
mayor,
councilmembers,
Planning
Commission
is
a
system
before
you
do
anything
in
a
community.
You
pause
to
come
to
the
community
photos.
P
Senior
citizen
can
be
able
to
walk
down
the
street
to
the
author,
Christopher
Jim
Burke
Jim,
because
they
don't
drive
at
night
and
they
can't
come
downtown
to
number
two
George
free
because
they're
afraid
of
parking
and
everything
like
that.
So
I
hope
you
all
get
it
to
figure
out.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
Q
I'm
over
here,
correct
I
am
Nicole.
Dietrich
I
live
around
the
corner
on
Elliott
Street,
with
my
husband
and
my
son,
who
is
4
and
3/4
and
I
just
want
to
address
the
issue
of
tourism.
Of
course,
I
live
in
a
very
historic
neighborhood,
fully
recognized
that
tourism
is
part
of
the
lifeblood
of
this
city.
Q
We
have
horse
and
carriage
and
walking
tours,
come
down
our
street
all
the
time,
and
you
know
we
signed
up
for
that
when
we
brought
our
property.
What
I
didn't
sign
up
for
is
having
tourists
come
in
through
my
gate
and
into
my
backyard
twice
and
last
month
and
claiming
they
didn't
know,
it
was
private
property.
What
I
didn't
sign
up
for
is
tourists
peeking
through
with
like
peeking,
through
windows
on
the
street
and
trespassing
people,
somehow
don't
put
it
together
either
that
people
actually
live
here
that
it's.
Q
This
is
not
Disneyland
and
they
don't
seem
to
connect
that
you
know
the
anxiety
it
would
provoke
if
someone
came
into
their
backyard
while
they
were
playing
where
their
children
were
playing
and
what
I
wonder,
if
is
there
some
sort
of
tourist
education
that
we
could
provide
something
very
simple
for
the
carriage
tours
and
for
the
walking
tours?
It's
not
gonna
get
everybody,
but
just
to
remind
them
to
respect
the
property
owners,
respect
that
these
are
families
and
that
this
isn't,
like
I,
said
their
personal
dizzy
Disneyworld
to
export.
Thank
you
we'll.
F
F
It's
a
taking
property,
that's
what
it
is
so
I
think
this
is
very,
very
important
for
us
too,
make
sure
that
the
Altima
Cory
understands
what's
going
on,
because
everybody
in
the
Westside
receive
your
letter.
It
is
something
that
I
will
definitely
oppose,
because
I
do
think
that
it
has
something
to
do
with
property
rights,
and
it
also
has
something
to
do
with
devaluing
property.
C
C
He
said
they
gonna
meet
with
me
and
custom
emigrated,
but
I
told
him.
That's
when
y'all
do
this
kind
of
thing,
y'all
need
to
let
City
Council
know.
First
I
really
have
a
problem
with
staff
making
decisions
like
this
and
not
come
D
dollars
owning
property,
and
we
have
to
get
a
call
from
a
citizen.
Where
do
we
stand?
C
C
Lady
call
me
it
really
was
embarrassing.
I
called
he
said
he
would
want
to
talk
to
Lee
and
he
doesn't
want
to
talk
to
change
up
and
we're
gonna
have
a
meeting,
but
not
I
haven't
seen
the
letter
but
hearing
from
Peter
that
they
get
ready
to
take
the
stuff,
but
I
don't
know
before
you
sit
down
and
talk
to
her.
You
know
because
we
represent
this
difference
and
we
the
one
got
to
do
with
the
constituents.
I
applaud
staff,
my
work
that
they
do
I
know
staff
answer
to
you.
C
You
were
the
mayor
of
the
city.
When
they're
making
changes
knees
neighborhood
we
represent
his
neighbor.
We
need
to
know
well,
as
you
need
to
know,
we
need
to
know
so.
I
can
second
ones
coming
out
tickets
a
well.
We
know
this.
So
we
don't
know
this.
We
know
that
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
try
to
explain
to
them.
Therefore,
something
different
from
what
the
let
us
say.
C
So
I
just
want
staff
to
get
the
message
this
it
first
time
and
I
don't
like
and
I
don't
like
to
being
called
on
by
people
because
of
something
staff
said:
that's
gonna,
think
my
constituents
and
then
you
call
it
jump
on
me
and
I
have
no
knowledge
of
makes.
You
look
ignorant
if
people
say
well
why
an
accident
he
doesn't
know
nothing.
We
need
to
do
a
better
job,
that's
2019!
We
need
to
do
a
better
job.
We
make
changes
in
these
neighborhoods.
We
need
to
form
the
councilmembers
on
any
changes
they
want.
C
A
Thank
you
and
I
understand
exactly
where
are
you
coming
from,
and
this
is
not
on
the
agenda,
so
we
won't
be
taking
any
action
on
tonight,
but
I
presume
it's
something
coming
before
us
in
the
future,
but
mr.
Lindsey
could
I.
Could
I
ask
you
just
because
we've
had
this
much
discussion
if
you
could
give
us
a
summary
of
this
proposed
rezoning?
Yes,.
R
R
So
this
is
not
proposal
to
come
from
from
city
staff
from
the
mayor,
or
this
is
proposal
that
comes
directly
from
the
representatives
of
the
Neighborhood
Association.
This
is
a
request
from
them
the
rezoning
letters
that
have
gone
out
as
a
request
on
behalf
of
that
group,
so
it
is
an
effect
of
down
zoning
of
a
significant
portion
of
the
Westside
and
I'm,
not
gonna
speculate
about
how
this
is
going
to
be
received.
R
R
K
K
R
A
very
good
question,
so
when
a
neighborhood
association
petitions
us
for
a
change,
for
example
in
Canon,
Borelli
Burger
King
to
us-
and
they
said
if
we
want
to
enable
short-term
rentals
in
our
community
back
in
2012-
that's
something
that
we're
compelled
to
honor
now
when
that
rezoning
takes
place.
Of
course,
it
goes
through
the
public
or
a
view
process,
which
is
the
way
the
system
is
set
up
and
we
think
it'll
be
met
with
the
appropriate
response.
K
R
Well,
I
would
I
would
on
I
would
direct
your
request
to
the
members
of
the
neighborhood
association
who
have
petitioned
it
again.
They
have
a
right
to
you
know
to
come
to
us
and
Sika
Sika.
You
know
guidance
and
redress
in
their
neighborhood,
but
I
I
don't
disagree
with
with
the
position
that
this
kind
of
thing
needs
a
full
public
review.
R
A
R
Correct
there,
and
and
and
to
respond
to
respond
to
that
matter,
we
have
already
heard,
as
we
expected
negative
feedback
from
a
number
of
affected
landowners,
and
we
expect
that
to
increase.
However,
we
have
also
heard
support
from
this
from
other
landowners
and
to
be
clear.
The
individuals
who
requested
this
downzoning
do,
in
fact,
own
properties
that
are
among
those
affected
by
the
change,
but.
K
How
can
they
request
a
zoning
change
on
property
if
they
don't
have
a
vested
interest
in
that,
if,
if
they
want
to
have
those
four
properties
result
I'm
with
you
on
that
right?
But
let's
just
say
all
of
this
to
my
right
is
our
neighbors
in
that
community,
the
two
immediate
people
up
the
nice
lady
who
came
in
and
talked
about
tourism,
education,
a
very
good
point.
No,
we
follow
up
on
them
and
they're
kind
policemen
behind
us
if
they're,
not
interested
in
that
or
even
knowledgeable
of
that,
how
would
they
properly
be
included?
K
D
A
S
S
R
That's
a
great
question
and
the
way
that
we
go
about
this
such
a
thing
is
that
you
do
in
fact
notice
to
the
public,
which
is
what
happens
when
a
request
like
that
comes
through
letters
go
out
and
people
know
about
it.
Airing
this
in
the
form
of
public
debate
is
exactly
how
we
do
it,
so
that
public
notice
is
the
way
that
people
get
information,
but
if
there's
a
sense
that
the
neighborhood's
need
to
be
more
strongly
sort
of
advised
of
these
kinds
of
changes.
We're
happy
to
hear
the
suggestions,
help.
I
Remember
seeking
so
and
I
won't
belabor
this,
but
I
think
the
points
been
made
and
we're
going
to
need
to
get
our
legal
staff
involved
was
at
some
point.
But
it's
no
surprise
to
anyone
here
that
I
think
the
blanket
rezoning
czar
a
bad
idea.
We've
talked
about
it
a
lot
in
the
nine
years.
I've
sat
on
this
council
other
than
the
city
initiating
that
I've.
I
Never
ever
heard
of
an
individual,
an
association,
homeowners
association,
a
group,
a
trade
group,
an
advocacy
group,
anything
going
in
front
of
the
Planning
Commission
for
a
rezoning
of
properties
that
they
have
no
interest
in
whatsoever,
and
that's
troubling
that
you
know
we
had
to
have
our
citizens
come
and
tell
these
guys.
Who've
got
to
go
out
there
and
face
their
constituents
every
day
that
some
of
their
constituents
are
trying
to
down
zone
other
of
their
constituents.
Property
I
would
never
want
to
be
in
the
crossfire
of
that
and
I.
I
Just
don't
think,
that's
appropriate,
so
I
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
is
give
you
the
tools.
If
you
don't
have
them,
and
you
may
already
have
them,
that's.
Why
we
need
to
get
with
legal
to
take
a
look
at
something
like
that
say
this
isn't
going
through
the
system,
because
you
don't
have
the
right
to
do
it
constitutionally?
You
can't
go
if
I
get
a
back
up
my
door
saying
your
neighbor
just
lives
it
down
your
property.
I
can
assure
you.
You
and
I
have
a
very
quick
conversation.
I've.
I
I
One
of
the
things
that
this
council's
been
particularly
sensitive
to
and
maybe
I'm,
not
one
of
them
as
much,
but
you
know
it's
avoiding
litigation.
I
can
assure
you
the
middle
of
the
minute.
This
thing
gets
going
if
it
gets
any
legs
at
all.
There's
gonna
be
all
sorts
of
litigation
over
this.
So
that's
crazy
anyway.
Moody
Nixon.
E
K
E
H
I
mean
I
I.
Do
think
that
there
are
differences
in
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
is
egregious
and
that
its
neighbors
to
neighbors
making
changes
or
trying
to
make
changes
that
are
extraordinary.
But
talking
about
the
authority
of
the
Commission
and
the
council
and
our
planning
staff
to
be
coming
to
the
council
and
Planning
Commission
within
the
overall
top
plan
and
the
zoning
code
that
we
have,
that
we
know
we
need
to
be
deciding
about.
I
mean
that's
a
different
set
of
parameters,
so
I
hope
we
don't
throw
out
the
baby
with
the
bathwater.
K
I
also
said
earlier
that
why
does
the
ordinance
allow
this
to
happen
whatever
meet
whatever
we
have
in
our
ordinance
that
gave
you
the
feeling
or
that
you
had
to
send
letters
out
so
these
effective
policies
that
needs
to
change?
That's
the
part
of
ordinance
that
I
like
that
I
have
brought
in
front
of
us,
so
we.
T
A
Not
even
think
we
will
check
in
to
all
right
for
petitions
and
communications.
I
would
like
to
recognize
one
other
guests
we
have
here
tonight
and
and
then
one
other
communication
with
council
as
well,
but
she
wasn't
here
in
time
to
sign
up
for
or
for
the
public
participation
period,
but
Maria
Elena
Rowland
is
here
and
I'd
like
for
her
to
come
forward.
She
runs
military
community
connections
which
is
now
operating
our.
A
We
call
that
our
day
Resource
Center,
it's
now
they'd
like
to
call
it
the
navigation
Center,
because
they
are
helping
to
navigate
those
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
empowering
them
to
a
better
place.
And,
as
you
know,
we
opened
the
center
last
year
originally
with
another
organization,
and
it
was
a
little
more
than
there
a
little
more
to
bite
off
than
they
could
chew.
A
And
Marielena
actually
came
to
us
by
service
on
the
mayor's
Commission
of
Hope,
on
homelessness,
nominated
by
North,
Charleston,
correct
and
because
her
organization
was
operating
in
North,
North
Charleston
by
the
name,
helping
veterans
who
were
experiencing
homelessness
and
and
when
this
kind
of
void
occurred.
Last
year
she
was
willing
to
step
up
to
the
plate
and
and
operate
the
Center
for
us
and
I
got
to
tell
you
I,
invited
all
the
council
to
come
down
and
visit
and
see
what
they
are
doing
down
there.
It's
remarkable
how
they
are
one-by-one,
helping
people
in
need.
U
U
Mcc
has
been
really
in
the
pulse
of
the
homelessness
where
we
are
located
at
5:29,
Meeting
Street
we've
decided
to
call
it
the
navigation
Center,
because
we
felt
like
we're
helping
to
navigate
people
home
for
for
a
variety
of
different
services
being
down
there
before
a
lot
of
people
do
outreach,
but
we
have
a
different
outreach
of
our
homelessness.
Our
homeless
are
referring
the
homeless
to
us,
we're
not
doing
the
outreach
we're
getting
our
homelessness
because
we
feed
for
the
hot
dog
ministries
Tuesdays
through
Sunday.
U
We
were
there
on
the
weekend
and
we
feed
these
people
so
we're
there
meeting
with
them
talking
to
them
finding
people
that
you
would
not
normally
find
on
the
street.
We
currently
have
the
MUSC
clinic
up
and
running
where
we
have
the
residents
now
doing
their
residency
there
in
our
clinic
and
they
been
overwhelming.
We
actually
started
a
opened
up
a
waiting
room
because
we
have
so
many
people
and
we
partner
with
the
with
Alan,
who
does
the
out
Street
ministries.
As
far
as
on
the
street,
so
they're
helping
these
residents.
U
We
also
have
Department
of
Mental
Health.
Unfortunately,
we
haven't
had
them
there
as
much
as
we
need
to
but
Syria
what
what
what
we're
doing
differently
and
what
we've
seen
we
can
always
find
them
jobs.
We
can
always
find
them
housing.
We
can
get
them
in
housing,
but
can
we
keep
them
there?
Can
we
make
them
happy
in
this
transition,
and
what
we
have
found
is
the
gaps
of
services
are
not
necessarily
of
having
the
community
partners
within.
We
have
the.
We
have
wonderful
community
partners,
we
partner
with
180
origin.
U
My
my
sister's
house
is
now
inside
of
our
places,
because
we're
seeing
probably
close
to
25
percent
are
women
coming
from
those
types
of
issues
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
families.
Lately
we
have
currently
what
we
know
of
at
least
10
are
in
hotels
that
we're
working
with
to
get
them
out,
but
really
the
foundation
that
we
need
is
more
on
a
mental
and
keeping
them
transitioning
and
staying
there.
U
We've
had
some
cases
where
we've
got
them
off
the
street
and
into
the
place,
but
sometimes
it's
a
risk
of
being
of
the
failure
again
of
not
going
in
the
housing
because
they
don't
want
to
fail.
It's
a
lot
easier
to
live
on
the
street.
I
know
that
sounds
pretty
strange
for
most
of
us,
but
it
when
you're,
when
you
are
where
we
are,
and
the
pulps
of
all
of
this
living
this
every
day
with
these
people
and
living
with
them
and
talking
to
them
every
day
and
gradually
get
them.
That
doesn't
just
happen
overnight.
U
It
doesn't
happen
with
them.
Just
walking
in
and
filling
in
an
intake
form.
We
have
to
build
a
relationship.
I
have
to
give
a
hug
every
once
in
a
while.
I
have
to
they're
worth
something.
I
have
to
tell
them
that
you
were
loved
I
have
to
tell
them.
Let's
just
start
with
the
Department
of
Mental
Health:
let's
talk
to
somebody,
it
takes
time
and
we
are
doing
it.
So
it's
September
4th,
we've
seen
close
to
400
clients
and
our
little
staff
of
four.
U
We
still
manage
our
office
for
veterans
up
in
the
North
SC
works
in
North
Charleston,
and
what
we've
done
is
we
created
the
template
that
the
VA
uses
using
the
homeless
alignment
team
using
social
workers
and
case
managers
to
follow
these
people
all
the
way
through
we
need
to
support
from
the
city.
We
thank
the
financial
support
that
we've
gotten
so
far,
but
we've
got
a
lot
of
ideas
and
we
want
to
continue
the
support
and
taking
this
to
a
different
level.
U
We
are
now
part
of
the
continuum
of
care
and
we
are
the
access
point,
because
there's
a
lot
of
homelessness
that
people
aren't
seeing
the
hidden
that
we
see
here
at
the
center
so
I.
Thank
you
all
I
welcome
you
to
come.
We
are
doing
a
I
want
to
say
a
drop-in
reopening
naming
On
January
28th
from
4:00
to
7:00.
Our
clients
will
be
navigating
you,
through
our
Center,
to
show
and
share
with
you
everything
we're
doing
we've
when
I
mention
that
we
also
have
Eckerd
have
signed
an
MoU
with
us
and
se
works.
U
So
now
we're
not
only
finding
jobs,
we're
finding
we're
working
with
existing
programs
in
the
state
under
the
Workforce
Investment
Opportunity
Act,
and
opening
up
the
door
to
these
people
of
clusters
of
jobs
that
are
available
to
them
that
they
deserve
and
we're
taking
this
employment
seriously.
But
we
also
have
to
build
that
foundation
of
making
sure
their
transition
is
secure
so
again,
I.
Thank
you
all
and
I
opened
the
doors
to
come
anytime.
If
you
can't
come
the
28th,
we
have
a
lot
of
people
that
just
drop
in
and
again.
A
K
A
Meeting
Street
and
although
you
do
enter
from
the
rear
on
Walnut
Street,
there's
the
main
entrance
really
and
there
will
be
a
open
house
on
the
28th
of
January
four
o'clock
until
7:00
yeah
four
to
seven,
and
we
asked
you
to
all
become
and
check
it
out.
It's
really
really
remarkable
what
we
all
together
are
doing,
but
special
thanks
to
you.
What
this
is
a
compassionate,
wonderful
woman.
A
Okay
and
speaking
of
wonderful
women
I
have
some
sadness
to
announce
of
the
retirement
I'm
gonna
call
it
Coleen.
Carducci
is
looking
to
move
back
home
to
Minnesota
to
be
close
to
her
mom
who's
who's,
getting
up
there
in
age,
and
so
Colleen
and
her
husband
are
gonna,
be
moving
back
there
and
she's
done
a
remarkable
job.
Looking
out
for
the
city
of
Charleston
during
the
last
17
years
now,
Colleen
just
over
15
years,
a
terrific
service
to
our
city
and
I
would
like
for
council
to
recognize
Colin.
A
G
You
mr.
mayor
members
of
council
about
him
clerk,
the
Public
Safety
Committee
met
on
Friday
January
4th
at
the
ungodly
hour
of
4
o'clock.
In
the
afternoon
we
had
a
full
attendance
of
our
committee
members
before
I
get
into
the
meat
of
our
committee
report.
He
should
have
received
an
email
from
mr.
Charles
Francis
back
on
January
3rd
tomorrow.
G
January
9th
is
national
law
enforcement
day
and
they've
encouraged
all
of
us
to
wear
something
blue
in
support
of
our
police
officers.
So
if
you
haven't
received
this
I
would
just
ask
that
you
something
blue
tomorrow.
It's
a
port
of
off
police
officers,
yes
tomorrow,
and
take
a
picture
and
send
it
to
mrs.
Francis,
so
they
can
post
it
appropriately.
That
we'd
support
our
police
with
the
minute.
G
I
just
said
earlier
that,
following
our
discussion
on
the
posse
bag
ban,
members
of
council
had
brought
up
questions
about
litter
and
little
control,
so
my
promise
that
we
would
have
a
special
public
safety
meeting
to
discuss
that
dan
Riccio
is
present
with
us
and
made
a
presentation
as
to
some
of
the
issues
dealing
with
that
Dan.
You
want
to
come
to
write
some
of
that
or
you
want
me
to
do
it
for
you.
G
Well
all
right
the
highlights
of
what
he
had
brought
to
attend
to.
Let
him
fill
in
the
blanks
if
he
wants
to
is
that,
but
one
of
the
biggest
problems
is
it.
There
was
not
enough
awareness
of
our
responsibility
with
live
equivalent
control
and
that
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
getting
the
word
out
about
what
our
responsibility
is
to
to
do
that
made,
while
the
problems
that
he
was
able
to,
though
this
was
trash
coming
out
of
vehicles
heading
to
the
landfill,
particularly
commercial
trucks
and
as
I
think
it's
flying
off.
G
I
know
in
my
neighborhood
on
Sam
Wittenberg
up
and
back
and
forth
on
my
North
bridge.
It's
a
huge
problem
with
the
amount
of
trash
is
flying
out.
The
back
of
cars
and
our
hotel
task
forces
out
there
on
regular
basis,
cleaning
that
you
see
the
piles
of
trash
they're
collecting.
So
once
you
fill
in
the
from
that
point,
if
you
don't
mind.
V
We
have
a
preliminary
plan
we
have
together,
which
is
going
to
include
again
awareness,
we're
going
to
focus
on
education,
awareness
and
enforcement.
We've
got
a
lot
of
key
players
that
we're
going
to
get
involved
from
neighborhood
services
to
livability,
to
volunteers,
to
do
tea
and
our
public
information.
Our
goal
is
to
keep
it
at
the
forefront
year-round
instead
of
maybe
a
short
period
of
the
year,
just
bringing
awareness
to
it
and
reminding
individuals,
but
we're
going
to
do
a
collaborative
effort,
state
city,
possibly
County,
and
so
we
can
combat
it.
V
One
one
group
of
one
at
a
time,
but
again
the
corridors
of
the
focus.
As
you
know,
you'll
go
down
the
interstate
and
at
5:26
and
Paul
Cantrell
and
James
Island,
connector
and
things
of
that
nature.
But
a
lot
of
the
majority
of
the
litter
is
coming
from
uncovered
loads
or
trucks
that
are
not
properly
covered.
V
So
we're
going
to
address
that
even
to
make
the
city
and
other
municipalities
responsible
when
they
are
going
to
the
landfill
day
in
and
day
out,
you
would
not
believe
how
much
litter
is
is
being
deposited
on
the
streets
blocking
storm
drains.
Obviously
it's
aesthetically
unpleasing,
so
I've
already
got
meetings
in
place,
we're
moving
forward.
We
are
just
going
to
put
everything
together
and
do
it
as
a
year-round
type
of
program
rather
than
a
periodically
done
program,
and
hopefully
that'll
get
a
lot
of
attention
and
awareness
and.
G
K
Know
we
some
time
to
time
get
some
pretty
good
ideas
from
citizen
participation,
and
we
all
heard
one
today
about
landscapers
blowing
those
leads
into
the
drainage
system
and
always
see
the
ditches
of
whatnot.
Why
isn't
that
literally
I'm
sorry
I
mean
why
isn't
that
a
little
a
little
problem?
Yes,
that's
a
little
problem.
In
other
words,
there's
our
ordinance
need
to
be
strengthened.
No.
V
We
we
do
have
specific
ordinance
addressing
that
very
issue
of
blowing
debris
and
to
are
putting
debris
into
a
storm
drain.
We
enforce
it.
Unfortunately,
we
can't,
you
know
be
everywhere.
We
rely
on
people
to
call
us
if
they
call
us
a
we
get
that
a
lot
call
us
in
the
neighborhoods,
hey
they're,
blowing
the
litter
or
the
debris
into
the
storm
drain.
We
respond,
we
issue
summonses,
and
but
we
do
address
it,
it's
just
it.
V
We
have
even
sent
letters
and
I'm
going
to
probably
have
to
do
that
again
to
there
landscaping
companies,
though,
but
trying
to
get
the
main
ones.
You
kind
of
get
the
idea
who
the
main
companies
are.
This
service
is
our
city,
so
we're
gonna
try
that
approach
again,
but
it
there
is
a
specific
ordinance
on
the
books
to
address
specifically
depositing
debris
into
storm
arrives.
So.
A
They're
all
supposed
to
have
a
business
license
landscapers.
So
let's
get
the
list
of
landscapers
that
have
a
business
license
in
contact
with
mall
councilman
Steve
Lee
I
was
just
gonna.
Let
councilman
wearing
know
that
I
had
some
complaints
in
my
district
and
liveability
jump
right
on
it
and
took
care
of
it
so
where
they
were
putting
debris
over
storm
drains.
A
In
addition,
I've
shared
just
this
week,
I
think-
or
maybe
it's
going
out
next
week-
the
ordinance
sharing
with
all
our
neighborhood
presidents
and
leadership,
to
remind
everyone
that,
if
you're
a
property
owner,
you
are
responsible
for
the
maintenance
all
the
way
out
to
the
street
or
the
curb
both
in
terms
of
litter
and
in
terms
of
vegetative
growth.
And
so
we
need
to
remind
people
that
they
do
have
that
responsibility.
G
Mr.
mayor
I'll
remind
you
that
you've
made
a
personal
visit
to
the
CVS
on
Orange
Grove
Road,
and
it's
gotten
a
lot
better,
since
you
know
good,
often
the
door.
So
thank
you
for
you'll.
Wait
behind
that.
The
will
should
get
an
update
from
the
Public
Safety
Committee
about
a
month's
time.
So,
where
we
stand
with
this
campaign,
we
did
hear
from
chief
littles
chief.
Do
you
want
to
he's
over
talking
adjacent.
G
He
reported
to
us
that,
at
the
end
of
the
calendar
year,
we
had
10
homicides
and
15
traffic
fatalities
prior
to
the
beginning
of
the
holiday
season,
I
participated
with
council
members
seeking
zin
the
mayor
in
a
joint
news
conference
that
they
had
with
the
Pleasant
Police
Department
North,
Austin,
Police,
Department,
County,
Sheriff's,
Office
and
Highway
Patrol
on,
and
enforcement
and
I
think
that
was
pretty
successful
chief
and
what
we
were
doing.
Many
of
the
comments
you
want
to
share
with
the
homicides
and
the
recently
that
we
just
experienced.
W
W
We've
had
a
lot
of
visible
events
where
the
shooting
outside
of
Citadel
mall,
as
I'm
sure
everybody's
aware
on
one
of
our
busiest
shopping
days
in
the
parking
lot
right
outside
the
food
court.
We've
had
two
homicides
this
year
already
in
in
less
than
a
week.
What
I
can
tell
you
most
of
these
events?
The
victim
knows
the
offender
in
many
of
the
events
they're
related
to
things
such
as
the
drug
trade,
retaliation,
domestic
violence,
the
most
recent
homicide
that
we
had.
W
We
had
a
gentleman
in
his
70s
who
was
a
stepfather
and
the
victim
was
in
his
50s
and
the
mother
was
in
the
house
and
and
shalwar
fighting
over
food,
and
this
son
stepson
was
killed,
shot
in
the
in
the
head,
so
I
think
the
message
if
I
could
is
that
we're
working
really
hard
we're
working
clarity
with
all
of
our
partners
with
the
community.
I
know,
in
particular,
we're
probably
going
to
have
a
meeting
in
West,
Ashley
I.
W
There's
too
many
guns
in
people's
hands
where
they
don't
have
any
conflict
resolution
skills
or
a
desire
to
solve
problems,
I
think
in
a
responsible
way.
So
I
think
we
have
to
continue
to
talk
about
this.
We
have
to
continue
to
educate
and
and
and
need
to
be,
really
emphasizing
responsible
gun
ownership,
and
we
really
need
to
take
a
stand
against
violence
in
our
communities.
It's
a
fairly
complex
problem.
The
one
thing
that
every
one
of
these
have
in
common
is
every
one
of
them
is
preventable
and
they
should
have
happened.
W
So
we
all
have
a
responsibility
in
this
conversation
and
keeping
our
community
safe,
I
can
tell
you
that
I've
met
with
one
too
many
mothers
right
here
in
Charleston,
who's
lost
a
son
or
a
daughter,
mostly
sons
to
gun
violence,
and
when
you
sit
down
with
a
mother,
who's
lost
a
son
to
gun
violence.
It's
a
humbling
experience,
so
I
think
it
is
important
for
us
to
talk
about
this.
We
talked
about
in
the
Public
Safety
Committee
meeting.
It's
also
important
I,
think
to
point
out.
The
Charleston
is
a
very
safe
city.
W
West
actually,
in
particular,
is
a
very
safe
community.
When
you
take
out
these
shootings,
these
homicides,
where
the
victim
knows
the
offender,
where
there's
some
specific
circumstances,
and
you
take
those
cases
out
not
to
diminish
the
importance
of
those
lives
and
those
families
that
are
affected
by
that
we
have
a
very
safe
community.
We
have
to
pay
attention
to
these
issues.
W
S
What
can
we
do
to
sort
of
make
sure
that
the
public
understands
that
we're
gonna
take
a
step
to
ensure
safety?
We
don't
know
exactly
what
happened
this
morning.
All
that
we
can
hope
for
right
now
is
a
fast
recovery
from
the
young
child
involved,
but
it
could
have
been
a
lot
worse.
I
was
thinking
about
myself
going
out
there
for
the
next
few
mornings,
wearing
a
protective
vest
and
trying
to
help
facilitate
to
make
sure
that
children
are
up
on
the
sidewalks
and
that
people
are
obeying
traffic
laws.
S
W
And
we
Cannon
and
we'll
do
that
and
I
think
your
points,
a
good
one,
because
the
community's
obviously
upset
they
should
be.
We
all
should
be
again
most
of
these
collisions.
What
they
have
in
common
is
they're
preventable,
so
we
actually
had
a
comprehensive
meeting
today
with
a
lot
of
our
partners.
Traffic
and
transportation
was
represented.
There.
We've
talked
about
the
3e
education
enforcement
engineering,
we're
hitting
all
sides
of
that
equation.
W
I
know
that
Keith's
having
a
big
summit
coming
up
and
sure
he's
gonna
talk
about
that
to
be
more
strategic,
but
each
day
we
all
as
a
community
have
a
responsibility.
I
can
tell
you:
we've
begun
our
enforcement
efforts,
we're
just
getting
started
and
just
as
an
example,
we
did
some
enforcement
on
the
Ravenel
Bridge,
which
is
55,
and
then
it
goes
quickly
to
45
and
we
were
getting
them
in
the
80s.
We
did
one
day
on
526
and
we
had
them
up
two
in
the
mid-90s.
W
That's
too
fast,
that's
behavior!
That
needs
to
be
modified,
it's
better
to
do
it
through
awareness
and
education
and
talking
about
these
things.
Certainly,
engineering
has
a
big
factor
but
part
of
its
going
to
be
enforcement
as
well.
We
I
will
take
a
positive
that
I
heard
in
today's
meeting.
We
had
the
County
Sheriff's,
the
city
and
some
other
folks.
We
did
a
lot
of
sobriety,
checkpoints,
New,
Year's
Eve,
almost
all
the
people-
and
they
said
this
is
I'm
new
here,
but
these
guys
have
been
doing
this
for
many
many
years.
W
They
all
had
were
actually
pleasantly
surprised,
most
of
the
people
they
stopped
wearing,
ubers
and
lyft's,
probably
90,
plus
percent.
They
did
not
get
one
DWI
arrest
from
the
sobriety
checkpoints.
Specifically,
they
got
a
handful
of
other
arrests
and
I
think
we
had
a
collision
but
no
fatalities
and
the
the
direction
of
that
was
a
positive
one
with
uber
and
lyft,
and
some
of
the
people
I
think
choosing
not
to
drive
all.
G
F
F
Presentation
on
Charleston
charm,
with
introduce
to
the
recreation
many
by
councilmember
and
Johnson
charm
is
a
proposal
and
an
approach
that
has
been
developed
by
Ventura
California,
specifically
to
deal
with
homeless
issues,
and
they
do
have
some
creative
approaches.
While
the
only
action
we
took
on
it
was
to
make
sure
that
since
Department
of
Housing
and
Community
Development
is
responsible
for
the
implementing
the
mayor's
Commission
on
homelessness.
F
S
S
But
all
these
ideas
and
there's
a
lot
of
action
steps
already
in
place,
but
a
comprehensive
plan,
homelessness,
legitimate
concrete's
and
some
tangible
goals
over
the
next
ten
years
could
do
wonders
for
our
city.
You
know,
and
we
can
look
at
some
of
these
other
cities
that
have
already
implemented
different
things.
S
Look
at
the
great
things
that
we're
already
doing,
especially
through
our
Community
Development,
Committee
and
I,
was
going
to
hope
that
I
could
come,
give
the
same
presentation
to
y'all's
committee
at
your
next
meeting,
and
then
we
can
look
as
a
group
and
decide
how
we
want
to
put
together
some
sort
of
comprehensive
plan
to
combat
homelessness.
That's
I
mean
we're
already
doing
a
lot
of
good
we're
doing
a
ton
of
good
across
a
lot
of
different
departments.
S
S
Not
only
because
we're
gonna
be
helping
get,
you
know,
create
more
jobs
and
help
people
that
have
struggled,
but
also
because
we
have
a
limited
amount
of
resources
that
clean
storm
drains
and
pick
up
litter
and
unfortunately,
we
can't
always
find
we
can't
always
do
it
ourselves.
So
if
we
could
create
more
jobs
and
do
it
I
think
that's
I,
don't
see
how
you
could
argue
that
as
a
city
and.
F
And
I
did
take
a
look
over
at
our
director
of
Housing
and
Community
Development.
As
we
spoke
about
this
because
of
course
we
do
have
a
plan
in
place.
A
ten-year
plan
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
discuss
is,
let's
not
start
with
a
blank
slate.
Let's
determine
what
is
in
terms
of
what
our
Department
of
Community
Development
is
already
doing,
and
whether
any
of
the
recommendations
been
done.
Ventura
can
improve
that
plan.
F
So
under
no
circumstances
am
I
saying
that
the
city
of
Charleston
does
not
have
in
place
a
ten-year
plan
to
quote
unquote,
end
homelessness,
so
there's
no
action
required
on
this.
It
was
just
a
simple
recommendation
that
this
presentation
be
provided
to
the
committee
on
Community
Development,
Thank
You,
mr.
mayor
and.
A
I
think
councilmember
Griffin
plans
to
come
to
the
mayor's
Commission
on
homelessness
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
forward
some
good
ideas.
We
can
always
use
more
of
those
and
add
to
what
we're
doing
so.
Next
is
our
Committee
on
traffic
and
transportation
before
council
members
seeking
speech
so
I
want
to
thank
him
and
also
councilmember
Lewis
for
their
service
on
Carta,
and
you
all
know
that
on
councilmember
seeking
serves
as
chairman
of
Carter
as
well
and
I
was
so
excited.
A
When
you
came
to
my
office,
was
it
just
last
week
time
flies
around
here
and
he
was
with
the
staff
from
the
cog
to
really
start
in
a
my
information
for
the
first
time
get
down
to
the
nitty
gritty
of
getting
this
low
country
rapid
transit
system
going
and
today
in
fact,
I
attended.
They
hosted
a
stakeholder
meeting
for
Lowcountry,
rapid
transit
and
it's
gonna
take
a
while
for
us
to
get
there,
but
it's
really
happening
y'all.
It's
really
happening.
I
was
excited
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you.
I
gave
chairman
Zico
thank.
I
You
for
being
there
wasn't
it,
you
were
there.
So
thank
you
so
I'm
following
the
Lowcountry
rapid
transit
kickoff,
we
did
have
a
traffic
and
transportation
committee
meeting
today
at
2:00,
which
is
what's
better
than
three
o'clock
on
Friday
afternoon.
It
was
originally
scheduled.
We
had
an
interesting
meeting.
We
had
two
applications
for
original
certificate,
weenie
Jack's,
which
need
action
by
this
council
for
approval.
They
were
approved
unanimously.
Then
we
had
two
items
that
I
just
want
to
report
out.
I
Very
briefly
to
y'all
we
got
a
report
from
the
BCD
cog
on
the
long-range
transportation
plan.
The
report
was
long.
It's
complicated
just
understanding
what
the
long-range
transportation
plan
is
and,
more
importantly,
what
it
isn't
is
something
I
thought
was
important
for
our
committee
and
just
so
you
know
the
long-range
transportation
plan.
It's
not
the
only
thing
and
not
what
totally
dictates
what
happens
in
the
tri-county
area
and
in
particular
Charleston
County
in
the
future.
This
is
a
plan
that
takes
us
out
to
2040.
I
It
is
projected
to
have
projects
the
total
somewhere
in
the
vicinity
of
425
million
dollars.
It
does
not
include
half
cent
sales
tax
projects
or
projects
that
are
brought
to
us
by
the
state,
for
instance
the
I
26
526
corridor.
It
is
a
way
for
the
cog
which
is
chartered
for
to
do
this,
of
putting
together
a
series
of
priorities
in
terms
of
access,
intersection
and
traffic
flow
in
the
region
that
aren't
otherwise
taken
up
by
larger
scale
projects.
I
We
got
a
report
about
it
today
and
I'm
happy
to
make
sure
you
all
get
a
copy
of
it.
It's
hard
to
comprehend
I
think
is
a
fair
statement.
It's
got
a
lot
of
things
in
it,
but
what
it
does
show
is
that
we
have
a
lot
of
challenges
in
our
region
and
a
lot
of
people
fighting
for
dollars
for
transportation
projects,
and
we
just
have
to
stay
vigilant
in
the
city
to
make
sure
that
we
get
our
projects
in
line.
The
good
news
is
that
mr.
I
Benton
will
talk
me
if
I'm
wrong
about
this,
but
the
citywide
transportation
plans.
Projects
are
incorporated
in
the
long-range
transportation
plan,
so
kudos
to
chairman
Benjamin,
we're
making
sure
that
he
gets
or
director
Benjamin
gets
our
projects
in
there.
So
the
County
are
thinking
about
it,
so
it
was
a
mouthful
there's
more
to
come.
It
has
not
been
adopted,
yet
it
will
be
and
then
brought
back
to
us.
I
In
that
whole
area,
direct
access
to
the
circle
it
ever
gets
operative
and
the
Harris
Teeter,
which
will
ultimately
open
I,
know
anyway.
That
little
stretch
is
going
to
go
out.
What's
going
to
come
to
us,
I
guess
in
our
next
meeting
at
ways
and
means
for
approval
for
design,
and
someone
might
ask
what
a
quarter-mile
stretch
of
road
would
it
cost
the
design
I
did
look
through
the
proposed
95
that
yeah
it's
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I
knew
the
answer
to
that.
I
But
it
is
an
opportunity,
by
the
way,
for
those
of
you
out
there
to
make
sure
when
they
go
and
design
this
there's
a
very
large
Rock
wide
right-of-way
out
there
to
make
sure
this
is
a
fully
accessible
Boulevard,
not
just
a
narrow
street,
where
people
who
are
coming
out
of
Grand
Oaks,
don't
necessarily
have
to
drive
alone
over
to
the
Harris
Teeter
or
to
the
circle
put
in
big
pedestrian
and
bike
access.
All
those
things
that
we'll
look
for
when
we
get
that
design
that
will
come
back
up
to
us.
I
But
for
those
who
represent
that
area
know
this
is
coming.
It
is
connectivity
between
Grand
Oaks
and
what
is
going
to
be
a
challenge:
Dario,
the
flooding
with
development
with
a
circle
and
all
that,
so
we're
not
gonna.
Take
it
up
for
another
two
weeks.
So
any
questions
talk
to
mr.
Benjamin
or
me
and
we
can
make
sure
you
have
it.
So
you
can
talk
to
your
constituents
with
that.
I
would
ask
for
approval
or
the
port.
Mr.
mayor,
thank
you
very
much.
A
S
S
A
A
S
Meet
next
Thursday
and
then
we'll
get
more
information
based
on
how
that
meeting
goes
so
that
we
can
take
it
back
to
our
constituents
and
other
stakeholders
that
would
be
involved,
such
as
the
home
builders
there's
just
this
would
be
a
big
deal
so
put
a
star
by
that
on
your
agenda.
There's
gonna
definitely
be
a
lot
more
information
to
come
and
that's
all
we
talked
about.
So
that's
for
approval
of
that.
Okay,.
I
Mr.
riah,
on
that
ordinance
that
was
deferred
is
gonna,
be
sent
to
the
group
that
reviews
stormwater
I
do
think
this
is
I
mean
it's
the
raising
the
requirements
of
the
freeboard
minimum
heights
of
free
board.
It's
going
to
include,
among
other
things,
if
you're,
building
a
slab
on
grade
building
fill
dirt
and
all
that
kind
of
thing
that
goes
along
with
construction.
I
do
think,
as
we
are
reorganizing.
I
Large-Scale
single-family
home
developments
it
it
seems
like
a
little
ordinance,
but
it
really
has
a
lot
of
implications
for
storm
water,
storm,
water
movement,
flooding
and
all
of
the
things
that
we've
been
concerned
about
on
this
council
for
a
good
long
time
now
so
need
some
thought
before
it
gets
back
here
for
approval.
Absolutely.
T
T
A
A
So
if
we
can
move
up
a
notch,
we
can
save
people
more
money
on
their
flood
insurance
policies,
and-
and
so
it's
all
time
together,
I
think
it's
going
to
work
out
will
will
time
enough
to
consider
this
fully
answer
the
questions
and
decide
whether
it's
a
good
thing
or
not.
But
we
did
that
today
put
a
little
pause
on
it.
Yes,
sir.
S
The
reason
why
this
is
such
a
big
deal
is
because
not
only
not
only
what
it
move
us
to
FEMA,
plus
right
now,
we're
at
FEMA
plus
one.
We
are
four
hundred
and
some-odd
points
away
from
being
level
five,
instead
of
a
level
six,
which
means
that,
if
we're
level
five
ours,
our
flood
insurance
premiums,
we
get
a
twenty
five
percent
discount
compared
to
a
20
percent
discount
right
now,
that's
across
the
board
for
everybody
to
see
everybody.
S
That's
one
of
the
reasons
why
this
is
such
a
big,
a
big
decision,
but
at
the
same
time
we
would
have
to
have
this
program
in
place
by
August
1st
in
order
to
get
that
well
in
order
to
get
the
point
right
towards
that.
So
it's
Stephen
joka
is
doing
a
great
job
with
this
thing
called
the
drive
for
five,
which
is
his
program
that
he's
worked
really
hard
on
to
get
us
to
a
level
five
instead
of
the
level
six.
S
H
Thanks
for
chairing
the
meeting,
councilmember
Griffin
I,
just
since
we
are
discussing
it,
even
though
we
have
deferred
this
prior
to
coming
to
the
council
in
a
month,
I
think
one
of
the
major
points
that
I
took
away
from
mr.
dokas
explanation
to
us.
In
addition
to
all
the
things
you've
already
just
said,
is
that
the
city
of
Charleston
and
Mount
Pleasant
are
the
only
two
communities
in
this
whole
area
that
aren't
already
at
FEMA,
plus
two
as
you
described
it
so
I
think
that
we
do
have
a
season
of
working
collegially.
H
We
know
that
every
time
we
deal
with
a
request,
a
complain
situation,
that's
repetitive
in
our
management
of
flood
control
and
stormwater
drainage
systems
and
the
whole
gamut
we're
trying
hard
to
work
across
the
jurisdictions,
because
we
know
we
can't
solve
our
water
challenges
alone
and
I
think
this
is
one
more
example
of
why
we
need
to
just
get
on.
You
know
on
to
the
same
level
playing
field
as
all
the
other
jurisdictions
that
are
also
regulating
these
same
sorts
of
conditions.
Just
like
we
are
so
I.
Think
that's
a
big
reason
for
me.
Council.
K
I'm
wearing
Thank
You
mr.
min
this
pause,
hopefully,
will
give
all
on
council
more
time
to
consider
unintended
consequences
that
will
affect
every
homeowner
and
every
business
person
in
every
district.
In
this
city,
for
example,
and
councilmen
seeking
district
blood
plus
two,
let's
just
say,
evil
came
back
and
damaged
the
house
from
the
top
down.
K
K
So
when
you
go
from
agreed
to
have
them
raise
it
up
two
feet
in
the
historic
district,
I've
heard
some
prices
of
some
people
who
challenge
you.
Thinking
about
raising
a
home
that
just
knocked
me
to
my
feet.
You
can
buy
a
house
cash
Wes.
Ashley
fool
would
have
cost
to
raise
my
house
on
the
peninsula,
so
in
particular
in
historic
district.
So
there
are
situations
to
be
considered.
West
Ashley
and
these
big
subdivisions
James
Island
John's
out
bringing
in
dirt
on
new
subdivisions
that
kind
of
thing
creating
flooding
on
the
previous
neighbor
who's.
K
T
A
quick
comment:
I
said
you
know
that
that's
really
a
major
component
of
this,
as
obviously
it's
very
expensive,
but
it's
not
only
downtown.
You
know.
If
you
got
to
raise
a
slab
to
feet.
You
know
how
expensive
dirt
is
right.
Now
at
Ralston,
I
mean
it's
expensive,
and,
and
so
even
if
we
save
two
million
dollars
in
premiums
on
flood
insurance,
I
can
assure
you
if
you
got
a
you
know.
If
you've
got
to
pay
to
raise
a
house,
you
know
in
a
neighborhood
whether
or
not
that's
gonna
balance
out
the
cost.
T
A
Clear
that
the
overall
goal
is
to
help
people
protect
their
properties
from
flooding
and
so
I
think
we
all
share
that
goal.
We
just
need
to
figure
out
the
best
way
to
get
there
and
council
member
Schewel
ii.
Could
we
call
on
you
to
help
us
drill
down
on
the
insurance
question
about
all
this
yeah?
That
would
be
great.
H
And
now
we're
gonna
move
on
from
this
topic
that
I
I
do
want
to
set
the.
If
there's
any
confusion
about
needing
to
raise
our
homes
nope.
No
one
is
saying
that,
in
order
to
get
this
new
level
of
rating
that
people
would
have
to
raise
raise
up
their
existing
homes
to
meet
this
to
two
foot
requirement.
H
It's
only
for
new
construction
or
if
somebody
was
renovating
their
house
to
an
extent
that
it
was
a
substantial
renovation,
then
they
would
have
to
meet
the
increase
in
that
and
then
right
now
it's
at
one
foot,
so
we're
not
talking
about
people
having
to
go
out
and
take
loans
in
order
to
raise
up
their
house
unless
they're
so
concerned
about
already
living
in
a
neighborhood
that
floods,
repetitively
and
a
lot
of
people
are
volunteering
to
do
that,
just
to
protect
their
property.
So
I
totally.
A
So
we
did
have
a
couple
items
on
there
for
approval.
I
think
that
we,
so
we
have
motion
to
accept
the
report
in
a
second
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
the
oppose
eons.
Have
it
next
our
Committee
on
ways
and
means
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
you
oppose
the
eyes.
Have
it
next
is
our
bills.
Up
for
second
readings,
we
have
three
items.
E
A
A
E
A
K
J
K
A
F
A
F
A
Come
on
okay,
yeah!
Thank
you,
yeah,
all
right,
all
in
favor
of
the
second
reading,
as
amended,
please
say:
aye
any
opposed
now
for
third
reading
ratification.
We
have
a
motion
and
second
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
the
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
So
we
have
no
bills
up
for
first
reading.
We
do
have
a
call
for
an
executive
session
on
two
subjects,
one
regarding
the
Local
Development
Corporation
and
another.
Regarding
the
lawsuit
on
tour
guides.
Licensing
do
I,
hear
a
motion
to
go
into
executive
session.