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City of Charleston City Council 3/23/21
A
All
right,
so,
I
think
we're
up
on
youtube.
Did
our
other
colleagues
join
us.
A
A
A
One
countdown
all
right,
so
I
think
we're
about
ready
for
the
blast
off.
Then
we'll
start
this
I'd
like
to
call
this
march
23rd
meeting
of
the
city
council
of
charleston
to
order,
madam
clerk,
would
you
please
call
the
roll.
C
D
D
F
G
A
Here
and
now,
if
y'all
would
like
to
join
us,
councilmember
gregory,
would
you
please
lead
us
in
an
invocation.
F
F
A
Now,
if
you
will
join
me
to
my
right,
is
our
american
flag
join
me
please
in
our
pledge
of
allegiance,
I.
H
A
Thank
you.
I
have
a
resolution
in
remembrance
of
one
of
our
colleagues
who
is
somewhat
unexpectedly
passed
away
just
last
friday
night,
the
honorable
council
of
former
council
member
brenda
scott,
my
colleague,
council
members,
gregory
and
mitchell
joined
me
yesterday
at
her
memorial
service.
A
But
I
wanted
to
share
this
resolution
with
with
council
this
evening,
whereas
the
city
wishes
to
recognize
one
of
south
carolina's,
most
distinguished
citizens,
brenda
charlotte
scott,
who
was
born
in
charleston
to
albert
and
marion
scott
on
january
10
1949,
whereas
brenda
scott
attended
a
b,
rhett
and
simmington's
elementary
school.
She
graduated
from
burke
high
school
in
1967,
attended
south
carolina
state
university,
where
she
also
graduated
in
1971,
so
she
was
bulldogged
twice
with
a
degree
in
elementary
education
in
the
fall
of
1971.
A
Brenda
scott
served
as
a
poll
manager
for
a
local
election
and
got
involved
ultimately
decided
to
run
for
seat
on
charleston
city
council
to
represent
the
west
side
district
which
she
won.
She
was
the
youngest
female
in
city
history,
to
be
elected
to
city
council
at
the
age
of
26
and
was
one
of
the
first
african-american
women
to
serve
in
that
role.
A
During
brenda
scott's
tenure,
she
was
elected
mayor
pro
tem
twice.
She
served
on
the
board
of
the
aquarium
while
they
were
building
that
important
facility
in
the
city,
brenda
scott
retired,
from
city
council
in
1998,
but
continued
to
serve
on
community
boards
and
housing
committees.
A
A
She
had
no
children,
but
she
raised
and
care
for
many
in
her
family
and
this
community,
and
so
many
students
that
she
nurtured
and
taught
along
the
way
brenda
scott
really
left
an
indelible
mark
on
our
city
and
earned
the
respect
and
admiration
high
regard
of
all
who
came
who
she
came
into
contact
with,
and
the
city
has
sustained
a
loss
in
her
death
and
we
on
behalf
of
the
citizens
we
extended
to
the
members
of
her
family
yesterday,
this
expression
of
of
law,
sincere
laws,
regret
for
their
loss
and
and
a
consolation
by
the
memories
of
her
fine
life
and
achievements,
particularly
to
the
city
of
charleston.
A
Councilmember
gregory
was
a
classmate
of
hers
in
the
burke
high
school
class
of
1967,
who
honored
her
yesterday
as
well.
Councilmember
gregory.
Would
you
like
to
add
any
remarks
about
your
friend
and
colleague.
F
F
I
mean
that
was
during
the
time
when
our
mayor
was
the
director
of
economic
development
and
during
that
time
guys,
those
of
you
don't
know
if
you
had
seen
this
city
back
in
71,
73
74,
it's
nothing
like
it.
So
it's
it's!
It's
women
and
people
like
brenda,
okay,
who
has
helped
us
to
get
where
we
are
and
mayor.
If
you
just
indulge
me
just
for
one
more
second,
brenda
was
also
a
neighbor
brenda
lived
on
court
street.
F
We
grew
up
together,
we
played
together.
Brenda
is
one
of
the
last
persons
okay
from
the
original
families
of
court
street
that
was
left.
Okay.
The
street
is
totally
different,
like
most
streets
in
our
city,
but
I'd
also
like
to
to
to
take
a
shout
out
mayor
to
another
court
street
woman
miranda
holm,
okay,
who
was
also
a
teacher
of
councilwoman
scott.
F
That's
why
you've
got
two
council
members
from
the
same
block
representing
the
same
district
district
six,
and
I
would
be
remiss
mayor
if
I
don't
shout
out
to
the
most
wonderful
woman
in
the
world.
F
A
Absolutely
because
I
think
councilmember
gregory,
if,
if
I
may
say
that's
the
first
time,
I've
ever
heard
you
get
really
choked
up
so
you're
good
son,
good
job.
I
hope
your
mom
was
able
to
get
signed
on
and
be
with
us
this
evening.
We're.
A
Oh
great,
terrific,
so
not
to
get
carried
away,
but
speaking
of
moms
and
women
on
council.
That's
how
I
got
to
personally
know
council,
member
scott,
because
I
made
a
point
to
to
introduce
myself
to
all
the
council
members
after
my
mom
got
elected,
so
my
mom
and
brenda
served
together
for
six
or
seven
years
on
council
and
back
then
there
were
four
four
women,
mrs
scott,
mrs
jefferson,
my
mom
and
mrs
ader
on
council.
At
the
same
time,
so
they
did
a
remarkable
job.
So
thank
you
for
all
that.
A
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
ladies
and
gentlemen
of
council,
madam
clerk
over
here.
If
you
can
see
under
the
heading
of
j.j
ayers,
some
several
young
people
have
been
waiting
patiently.
These
are
wonderful
athletes.
There
are
members
of
the
southern
marlins
racing
team,
the
smrt
smart
team,
they're
they're,
the
cities
of
charleston's
year-round,
swim
team
led
by
coach,
michael
stewart
and
michael,
I
see
your
name
up.
J
You
may
want
to
show
you
a
video
with
us
as
well,
and
I
hope
lori
arbor,
our
wonderful
director
of
recreation
is,
is
with
us
coach
stewart
sent
27
athletes
to
the
state
championship
meet
held
earlier
this
year
in
greenville,
and
I
want
to
recognize
their
achievements
and
offer
some
gratitude
for
the
excellent
way
in
which
to
smart,
youth
athletes
represented
in
our
city.
J
J
J
So
in
the
sixth,
the
city
of
charleston
team
came
home
with
five
with
with
a
fifth
place
finish,
including
15
state
titles.
The
athletes
who
came
in
with
state
titles
are
as
follows:
wells
cloud
wells
you
on
our
screen.
J
If
you
could
raise
your
hand
there,
you
go
wells,
competed
as
a
14
year
old
and
won
a
state
title
in
the
50
free,
the
100
free,
the
203,
the
100
back
and
the
200
back
daniel
eldridge
daniel
you
with
us,
raise
your
hand
for
says
daniel
12
year
old,
he
won
a
state
title
in
the
50
fly,
100
fly,
50
brass,
200
breasts
and
101
m
sean
grieber.
I
see
sean
he's
one
of
my
constituents.
J
There's
sean
he's
a
12
year
old,
who
won
the
state
title
in
100
brest
and
phobia
hayes
phobia
with
us
there.
She
is
a
10
year
old.
She
won
the
state
title
and
100th
fly
in
addition
to
11
and
12
year
old
boys
relay
team
won
gold
medals
in
the
200
medellin
relay
to
200
free
and
in
coach
stewart's
words.
J
The
highlight
of
the
meet
was
saved
for
the
final
day
when
the
11
and
12
year
old
boys
won
and
crushed
the
state
record
in
the
400
deadly
relay
by
more
than
four
than
five
seconds.
No
team
was
consistent
of
daniel
sean,
jake
and
parker.
Those
guys
are
there,
raise
your
hands
and
be
recognized,
so
I
just
want
the
city,
council
and
our
community
to
be
aware
of
the
wonderful
work
that
these
young
people
dedicated
themselves
under
adverse
conditions.
J
K
Councilmember
sheridan,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
bring
this
group
before
you.
These
are
these
young
folks
or
faces
you
all,
don't
get
to
see
every
day,
but
coach
michael
and
his
coaching
staff
work
with
them
regularly.
The
parents
are
wonderful
to
support
the
act,
their
actions
and
their
efforts,
and
so
the
city's
very
lucky
to
have
a
group
like
this,
especially
during
tough
budget
times.
K
These
faces
are
the
kids
that
are
out
there
swimming
in
your
in
the
pools
and
doing
those
things
and
we're
just
so
thankful
that
city
council
is
able
to
in
the
mayor
able
to
continue
to
support
them
and
our
coaching
staff.
Coach
michael,
does
a
great
job,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
we
recognize
him
because
he's
the
one
that
leaves
them
all.
L
Okay,
I'm
proud
of
these
kids,
as
well
as
the
kids
that
are
behind
us
in
the
water
right
now.
Training
for
a
meet
this
weekend
just
want
to
thank
all
the
city,
council
and,
of
course,
lori
and
stella
and
jj
for
all
your
support
for
our
program.
A
A
Thank
you
for
being
with
us
this
evening
now
not
on
the
agenda,
but
I
just
want
to
slip
in
a
quick
announcement
from
chief
courier
with
our
fire
department
and
a
milestone
that
the
team
with
the
fire
department
has
achieved
chief.
M
M
One
thing
to
note
is
that
we
retained
our
accredited
agency
status,
which
was
started
under
chief
brac,
but
we
also
are
an
iso
class
one
fire
department,
so
there
are
only
102
fire
departments
in
the
country
that
have
achieved
that.
I
thought
that
was
important
for
you
to
know,
and
I
think
it
goes
without
saying,
but
I
I
didn't
do
this.
This
was
the
fire
department
team
and
you
are
fortunate
enough
to
have
just
a
fantastic
fire
department
working
for
you.
So
I
just
wanted
to
pass
that
on.
A
Great,
thank
you
chief,
congratulations
for
that
and
we
we
recognize
it's
a
team
effort,
but
we
thank
you
for
your
leadership
of
that
team.
Appreciate
it,
mr
mayor.
Yes,
sir.
J
Council
member
shade-
I
just
I
I
talked
to
chief
correa
after
I
saw
his
email
yesterday
and
you
know
he's
so
modest
about
his
role
in
all
of
this,
but
he
is
a
leader
of
that
department
and
they
have
their
own
adversity.
They
have
to
go
through
with
the
our
stations
being.
Some
of
them
are
under
construction
or
remodeling,
but
it's
just
that
such
a
big
deal
that
a
hundred
and
only
102
fire
departments
and
think
about
this
for
a
second
102.
J
You
know,
I
don't
want
to
guess
how
many
fire
departments
are
out
there,
but
only
102
throughout
the
country.
Have
this
dual
recognition
really
is,
is
a
big
deal
and
something
for
our
fraud
department
to
be
proud
of.
So
thank
you,
chief
and
thanks
for
all
the
of
your
leadership
and
all
the
men
and
women
who
work
to
protect
our
city
and
serve
our
community.
We
salute
you.
A
Thank
you
chief
and
council
members.
I
I
guess
I
I
just
can't
proceed
without
also
recognizing
today
the
sorrow
over
the
tragedy
and
census
killings
out
in
boulder
colorado.
A
A
What
a
again
such
a
senseless
and
tragic
waste
and
and
insanity
really
so
keep
keep
boulder
and
and
those
affected
in
our
prayers.
We've
already
placed
our
flag
at
half
staff
in
their
honor.
A
H
J
H
We've
done
that
and
you'd
be
surprised
of
the
release
frankly
and
the
the
good
feeling
of
being
thought
of
when
something
like
that
happens
in
any
community,
much
less
if
it's
perpetrated
upon
the
people,
so
you
spot
on
with
boulder
colorado,
but
also
don't
forget
about
those
in
our
asian
community
to
reach
out
to
them
during
this
time
of
frankly,
hardship.
A
Thank
you
well,
what
a
point
well
taken,
and
I
I
hate
to
admit
that
it
it
it
seems
like
in
the
last
week
it's
become
almost
like
a
everyday
occurrence,
something
some
tragedy
like
this
happening
in
our
country,
and
it
just
furthers
our
resolve.
I
know
chief
reynolds
is
on
the
line,
and
I've
spoke
with
him
last
night
about
this
as
well.
Our
commitment
to
keep
our
our
community
safe.
A
It's
it's
our
number
one
priority,
but
you
know
when,
when
you
just
have
craziness
like
this
occur,
it's
you
have
to
be
prepared
to
respond,
but
at
the
same
time
we're
doing
everything
that
we
can
to
be
watchful
and
prevent
everything
that
we
possibly
can.
But
thank
you
chief
for
those
ongoing
efforts
all
right.
Next,
we
have
public
hearings
up
quite
a
few
of
those,
and
I
will
turn
over
to
christopher
morgan
to
introduce
those
one
at
a
time
and
then
we'll
see.
If
anybody
has
a
comment,
christopher.
N
Air
members
of
council-
and
I
believe
mr
o'brien
has
this
first
one
which
is
closing
and
abandoning
a
portion
floyd
drive.
I
see
his
yeah
he's
coming
on
here.
D
O
D
This
one
I
know
this
is
in
conjunction
with
a
little
bit
of
a
property
swap
in
the
alignment
of
that
road,
but
chip's
got
the
main
information
on
this.
A
I
think
this
matter
has
come
to
council
already
adequately.
The
purpose
here
right
now
is
to
see
if
there
was
any
public
comment
that
needed
to
be
made,
which
it
was
duly
advertised.
Madam
clerk,
do
we
have
anyone
from
the
public
that
wants
to
be
recognized.
P
A
Thank
you
motion
to
approve
any
further
discussion
from
council
all
in
favor.
Please
say:
aye
hi
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
council,
member
del
shapo,
you
you
had
me
at
a
disadvantage
because
I'm
not
at
home
with
my
new
puppy
but
you've
got
a
beautiful
pup.
There.
N
Okay,
I've
got
the
screen
going.
Can
you
all
see
the
city
seal
my
cursor
on
that?
Yes,
right?
Okay,
all
right!
So
this
is
item
e2.
This
is
569
to
571
king
street.
It's
the
corner
of
cannon
street
and
king
street.
It's
1
12
of
an
acre.
It
is
rezoning
for
the
property
from
general
business
to
mixed-use
workforce
housing.
That's
our
mu2
wh,
it's
owned
by
the
jenkins
family,
a
group
of
family
members.
It
was
before
planning
commission
last
month
and
they
recommended
approval
seven
to
zero.
N
N
Here
is
an
aerial
view
of
the
property
at
the
corner
of
canon
and
king
here
is
an
oblique
view
and
you
can
see
the
structures
these
structures
are
going
to
get
renovated.
As
part
of
this
rezoning,
it's
not
a
con
condition
of
the
rezoning,
but
the
family
is
working
to
renovate
the
structures
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
they're
pursuing
the
rezoning
here.
N
They
are
the
street
view
of
the
structures
and
there's
a
corner
store
there
at
the
cannon
and
king
and
other
retail
space
and
then
residential
space
on
the
second
floor
and
here's
a
view
from
king
street,
looking
north
king
street,
looking
south
with
the
structure
on
the
right
and
across
the
street
and
the
applicant
has
provided
a
couple
of
slides.
N
This
is
a
survey
of
the
property
showing
the
buildings
that
are
on
the
site
and
then
this
is
the
renovations
that
they
will
be
undertaking
again
to
have
residential
units
and
they
do
plan
to
have
affordable
units
as
part
of
these
upstairs
units.
That's
a
big
important
item
for
the
family
and
this
renovation
is
a
huge
boost
to
king
street
as
well.
N
So,
overall,
it's
looking
like
a
really
good
project
for
the
area
and
the
staff
and
planning
commission
have
recommended
approval
on
this
one
and
I'll
go
back
to
our
cover
map.
Just
in
case
you've
got
any
questions
about
where
the
map
is.
B
A
R
R
R
Several
years
ago,
the
jenkins
family
decided
that
we
wanted
to
redevelop
the
property,
so
we
did
not
renew
any
of
the
leases
on
the
property.
It's
all
vacant
right
now,
except
for
the
king
street,
mark
which
leases
the
ground
level
of
571
king
and
the
owners
of
that
mark.
Ahmed
and
sherry
l
halawani
have
been.
S
R
There
for
30
years,
they're
well
known
in
that
community,
well
liked
in
that
community
and
they're
supported
by
the
community.
We
also
when
we
decided
we
wanted
to
redevelop
this
property.
We
retained
a
structural
engineering
company
to
come
and
do
an
in-depth
evaluation
of
the
three
buildings
that
sit
on
that
lot
to
assess
their
structural
integrity
and
what
we
want
to
do
is
to
repair
and
strengthen
the
foundation
of
each
of
those
buildings.
R
There
is
an
unused
attic
in
each
of
the
two-story
building
and
the
family
proposes
to
make
two
apartments
on
the
second
floor
of
each
of
those
two-story
buildings,
one
efficiency
apartment
and
one
two
or
three
bedroom
apartment
by
extending
into
the
attic
and
then
the
third
building
is
the
one-story
building.
R
The
family's
vision
for
the
five
residential
units
is
to
designate
two
or
more
of
them
for
affordable
housing,
in
keeping
with
the
vision
of
our
late
parents.
For
this
property,
we've
assembled
a
good
team
to
assist
with
this
lead
development
project
and
we're
prepared
to
move
forward
if
approved,.
A
G
N
N
These
are
properties
that
are
along
maybank
highway,
the
parcels
for
e3
or
279,
000,
056
and
057,
and
then
the
parcels
for
e4
27900555
that
one
is
a
9.62
parcel,
acre
parcel
and
the
previous
two
comprise
37.29
acres
and
for
the
rezoning
it's
a
rezoning
from
single
family,
sr1
and
sr4
to
dr6
and
for
the
zoning
it
is
taking
a
property
that
was
in
charleston,
county
and
zoning
it
as
dr6,
so
it
would
all
become
dr6,
and
this
was
recommended
for
approval
by
the
planning
commission,
I'm
going
to
show
you
some
images
of
the
property.
N
Of
course
it's
in
our
century
five
plan,
it's
in
our
suburban
designation,
so
this
is
in
line
with
suburban
designations
along
maybank
highway.
It's
also
in
line
with
the
new
county
overlays
that
call
for
up
to
eight
units
an
acre
in
these
areas
of
maybach
highway
as
well.
N
Here
is
an
aerial
image
of
the
properties
they're
undeveloped.
At
present
they
are
immediately
adjacent
to
the
hayes
park.
Development,
which
is
here
and
then
also
further
to
the
east,
is
additional
land
that
the
city
is
working
to
acquire
through
green
space
programs,
that's
adjacent
to
our
city
park
and
there
would
be
connectivity
from
these
parcels
across.
So
people
could
be
at
these
properties
and
go
all
the
way
over
to
the
new
park
area
without
even
having
to
get
on
me
bank
highway.
N
They
will
also
potentially
be
able
to
connect
to
other
streets
to
the
rear,
depending
on
where
wetlands
are,
and
things
like
that.
So
it's
part
of
the
whole
connected
system
of
maybank
highway
is
called
for
on
the
johns
island
plant.
N
Here
is
an
image
from
the
street
view
of
the
undeveloped
property
present
property
across
the
street
church
up
and
down,
may
bank
highway
to
the
east
and
to
the
southwest,
and
then
the
applicant
has
provided
some
slides.
What
they
are
proposing
is
a
series
of
single-family
structures,
as
well
as
some
attached
single
family.
That
would
be
rental.
N
This
is
a
new
trend
in
the
real
estate
world
and
the
applicants
can
explain
it
a
little
bit
better,
but
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
real
estate
world
who
would
rather
rent
than
own
their
own
houses,
and
so
these
will
be
houses.
That
will
be
helpful
for
that
and
it
leads
to
a
kind
of
unified
development
pattern
on
the
site.
N
There
is,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
connectivity
to
the
north
and
potential
for
connectivity
to
the
rear
and
they
are
staying
out
of
the
wetlands,
with
the
exception
of
the
crossing
here.
That,
I
believe,
is
in
the
neighborhood
of
an
existing
crossing.
The
land
is,
is
pretty
high
and
good
as
most
areas
along
the
highway
are.
N
These
are
some
images
that
the
applicant
has
provided
the
types
of
housing.
They
will
build
one
and
two-story
housing
with
one
two
and
three
bedrooms:
there'll
be
lots
of
common
green
space.
Sidewalks,
of
course,
is
required
by
our
codes,
and
this
shows
the
relationship
of
this
development
to
the
already
approved
and
under
construction
hayes
park
development
to
the
southwest
as
well,
and
the
types
of
housing
again
showing
in
these
images.
N
Here
from
hayes
park,
so
there's
also
a
little
bit
of
info
from
the
applicant
about
how
the
current
sr4
zoning
is
14.3
units
and
his
own
14.36
units,
14.36
acres,
and
it
allows
10.9
units
an
acre
and
then
the
sr1
is
on
nine
acres
and
last
four
point:
eight
units,
an
acre
when
you
factor
all
that
in
with
the
six
units
an
acre
under
dr6.
N
It
actually
is
slightly
lower
density
on
the
site
from
262
units
to
about
207
units.
So
that
is
something
that
I
think
a
lot
of
people.
Who've
looked
at
this
issue
have
felt
good
about,
and
planning
commission
did
as
well.
N
So
that's
the
end
of
those
slides
and
again,
staff
and
planning
commission
recommend
approval
of
this
request.
All.
U
Yes,
I'm
here.
Thank
you
very
much,
ladies
and
gentlemen.
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
middleburg
communities,
we're
the
developer.
Pursuing
this
project,
dj
van
slambrick
and
reece
also
had
signed
up
to
speak,
but
they're
traveling
and
have
not
landed
yet,
so
I
don't
believe
that
they
are
going
to
be
joining
us.
We
also
have
john
and
john
dangerfield
here
as
well
who's.
Our
engineer,
we're
excited
about
the
project,
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
H
Mr
may
I'd
like
to
ask
a
question:
how
many
affordable
units
would
be
part
of
this
development.
U
Right
now
we
don't
have
any
designated
affordable
units.
We
do
have
a
program
called.
We
have
two
programs
that
we
use
in
our
communities
throughout
the
country.
One
is
our
local
heroes
program
where
we
designate
a
certain
number
of
units
for
a
reduced
rent
and
those
units
are
go
to
local
heroes.
First
responders,
teachers
that
live
within
a
designated
radius
of
the
community.
V
Hey
how
are
y'all
doing
my
name's
john
dangerfield,
with
dangerfield
engineering
and
survey,
we're
the
civil
engineers
firm,
with
working
with
middlebury
communities
on
this
project.
Jason
did
a
great
job
of
introducing
the
project
and
just
as
some
of
the
concerns
that
were
brought
up
when
we
went
through
community
neighbor
meetings
where
the
wetlands
were
preserving,
the
existing
wetlands
were
utilizing
an
upland
crossing
that
crosses
the
from
the
one
upland
to
the
next
to
the
rear
of
the
site.
We're
utilizing
existing
upland
to
make
that
crossing
another
was
the
traffic.
V
We
have
hired
deal
engineering
who
is
doing
the
traffic
impact
analysis
for
the
adjacent
site
haste
park
she's
also
doing
our
traffic
impact
analysis
and
will
address
any
concerns
that
come
up
in
that
traffic
impact
analysis.
The
other
concern
from
neighbors
were
the
storm
water.
As
you
all
are
aware,
the
city
has
adopted
new
storm
water
regulations
in
july.
This
isn't
a
special
protection
area
and
we
are
adhering
to
all
those
requirements.
V
So
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
storm
water
improvements
on
the
site
that
will
actually
enhance
the
storm
water
coming
off
of
the
site
and
reduce
that
flow
from
the
site.
Here.
To
answer
any
questions
you
have,
I
think,
a
very
good
point
that
the
density
that
we're
seeking
does
reduce
the
number
of
units
on
this
site,
but
again
any
questions.
Y'all
may
have
we're
here
to
answer
those
and
we
thank
you
for
your
time.
U
Yeah
him
and
reese
are
not
not
going
to
be
joining
us.
A
Great,
the
matter
comes
to
council
move
for
approval.
Three
and
four.
A
W
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
wanted
to
say
briefly
and
thank
middleburg
for
including
me
in
on
their
kind
of
initial
conversations
around
this
site
and
also
just
engaging
the
community.
W
It's
one
of
the
first
development
projects,
I've
seen
where
they,
the
developer,
actually
reached
out
to
the
neighbors
to
talk
about
what
their
vision
was
for
the
site
and
how
they
were
going
to
be
developing
it,
and
I
think
that
that
practice
answered
a
lot
of
community
questions
up
front
before
the
matter
had
even
gone
before.
Planning
commission
and
you
know
I
want
to
want
to
thank
middleburg
for
being
involved
involving
those
in
the
community,
and
it
looks
like
a
great
project
going
forward.
P
Yes,
sir,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
you
know,
fundamentally,
this
is
something
that's
come
up
previously.
That
concerns
me
that
we
re-zone
these
properties
before
the
traffic
studies
are
completed.
P
You
know
we
just
heard
from
the
developer
saying
yes
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
a
traffic
study,
and
you
know
those
results
will
be
out
soon,
so
basically
we're
going
to
rezone
this
property
so
that
they
can
continue
forward
on
a
large-scale
development
on
john's
island,
and
we
still
have
yet
to
see
what
the
traffic
study
looks
like
that
concerns
me
and
fundamentally
that's
something.
P
That's
come
up
several
times
since
I've
known
since
I've
been
on
council
that
we've
reason
these
properties,
because
it
isn't
they
can
have
these
properties
resent
without
giving
us
a
traffic
study,
I'm
always
hesitant
to
rezone
a
property,
especially
a
large
scale.
This
is
going
to
be
a
huge
development
on
johns
island
on
may
bank
highway.
P
U
Yeah
and
john
correct
me
from
I
think,
councilman
griffin,
I
appreciate
your
question.
I
certainly
understand
your
concern
and
I
I
believe
it
is
pretty
close
to
being
ready.
It'll,
certainly
be
ready
by
the
time
of
the
third
reading,
but
what
I
can
do
is
follow
up
either
with
mr
morgan
or
with
you
directly,
when
I
get
a
better
sense
of
what
that
I
just
don't
want
to
kind
of
guess,
because
I'm
not
exactly
100
certain
what
it
is,
but
I
know
it's
pretty
close.
V
And
if
you
don't
mind
just
to
add
to
that
what
this
property
is
currently
zoned,
it
will
allow
268
single
family
residents,
so
under
current
zoning,
the
traffic.
If
this
project
is
developed
under
current
zoning,
the
traffic
impact
will
be
much
greater
than
the
rezoning.
So
I
know
there's
concerns
about
the
rezoning
of
the
parcel
to
go
to
multifamily
by
rezoning
it
you're
actually
going
to
reduce
the
potential
traffic
impacts.
V
So
what
we're
doing
is
we're
actually
reducing
this
to
a
maximum
210
units
when
210
multifamily
units
are
going
to
generate
less
traffic
than
if
you
compare
it
to
210
single-family
residents,
just
because
of
the
number
of
vehicles
per
residence,
so
not
only
from
just
a
product
site
itself
is
going
to
reduce
the
traffic,
but
also
from
the
number
of
units
is
going
to
be
reduced.
So
by
rezoning
it
you
actually
will
reduce
the
traffic
impact
just
by
product
type.
A
Thank
thank
you,
sir
councilmember
jackson.
A
You're
on
mute,
councilmember.
X
Yeah,
sorry,
thank
you
and
I
I
do
appreciate
councilmember
griffin's
overall
sentiments
about
when
we're
considering
rezoning
that
we
do
need
to
begin
to
take
into
consideration
it
to
a
greater
extent
and
as
much
as
we're
able
to
during
a
rezoning
the
the
infrastructure
impact
and
especially
traffic,
in
a
place
like
john's
island.
I
I
think
we'd
all
figured
out
that
this
this
particular
site
is
going
to
reduce
the
potential
number
of
units
compared
to
what
the
current
zoning
allows.
So,
but
I,
but
I
do
think,
that's
a
principle.
X
We
should
continue
to
watch.
I
I
want
to
support
this
conceptually
in
the
way
that
it
has
been
presented,
and
I
know
that
we
can't
hold
them
to
the
the
you
know,
the
concept
and
the
layout
and
anything
during
a
rezoning.
X
But
I
do
feel
like
this
company
from
what
I
understand
has
a
track
record
now
of
doing
these
kinds
of
housing
communities
that
are
meeting
a
need
around
the
nation
and
especially
areas
like
ours
that
have
you
know,
sort
of
gone
gone
in
in
directions
of
creating
excerpts
and
commuting
nightmares
and
lifestyle
challenges
for
people
by
by
allowing
a
lot
of
redevelopment
in
areas
that
are
hard
to
reach
and
increasingly
vulnerable
to
the
protective
devices
that
we
know
we
need
for
for
flooding
controls.
X
So
this
kind
of
development
is
generically
now
called
missing
middle
housing,
it's
the
type
of
footprint
and
lifestyle
that
a
lot
of
people
are
saying,
either
in
their
empty
nest,
retirement
years
or
their
startup
years
of
smaller
families
where
they
want
to
be
connected
to
cool
stuff
where
they
can
live
and
and
work.
I
love
the
idea
that
this
is
connected
to
boyd,
hayes
and
potentially
our
park.
X
I
watched
boyd
hayes,
be
reviewed
over
and
over
and
over
again
by
the
design
review
board
and
the
community
there
and
they've
done
an
excellent
job,
also
of
of
respecting
the
land,
the
topography,
the
the
you
know,
the
the
elements
of
of
climate
impact
that
we
know
we
need
to
be
preserving,
especially
our
trees
and
our
natural
vegetation.
X
X
N
It
it
depends
on
how
the
final
configuration
of
the
property
is
done.
I
think
in
general,
these
developments
are
all
one
parcel
because
they
are
all
commonly
maintained
and
all
there
may
be
because
of
the
need
to
have
some
public
rights
of
way
here
that
there
are
a
few
lots
that
are
created,
but
but
we're
still
working
through
that
process.
X
That's
the
distinction
between
a
property,
that's
going
to
be
subdivided
for
individual
deeds
and
homeownership
right
compared
to
a
all-inclusive
rental
property.
So
I
think
we
have
a
lot
to
learn
about
this.
I'm
happy
for
councilmember,
brady
and-
and
you
know,
people
on
johns
island,
and
I
do
think
that
we
should
be
learning
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
for
future
locations
as
we
look
at
our
comp
plan
and
keep
going
on
improving
our
our
options
for
for
people
to
live.
Thank
you.
A
So
I
I
have
one
question
myself.
If
I
may,
and
mr
morgan,
you
mentioned-
I
think,
a
couple
of
times
the
potential
for
the
connectivity
from
what
I
would
call
the
rear
of
the
property
and
as
as
noted
in
our
johns
island
plan
connectivity
is,
is
so
important
for
for
for
traffic
and
mobility.
A
So
what
what
changes
that
from
the
potential
to
a
reality?
Is
that
something
that
the
developers
are
working
on
or
committed
to
or
hadn't
worked
out?
Yet?
What
is
the
status
on
that?
Well,
mayor.
N
N
They
have
roadways
at
the
rear,
whether
these
are
public
or
not,
has
not
been
fully
determined,
but
there
would
be
the
potential
to
allow
for
future
connectivity
to
the
rear,
assuming
that
that
is
not
a
wetland
area
or
like
a
a
grove
of
grand
oaks,
or
something
like
that.
We
look
to
create
those
connections
where
there's
a
logical
location,
but
that
would
be
part
of
a
larger
system
and
given
how
they've
gotten
a
access
road
across
the
back
of
the
property.
A
V
The
actual
connectivity
to
southwick
drive,
which
would
be
on
the
plan
you're
looking
at
playing
right.
I
feel
that
there,
if
you
look
at
that
site,
there's
been
surveys
done
on
that.
I
think
there's
a
considerable
wetland
that
separates
that
site
from
southwick.
I
think
the
the
owner
of
middleburg
is
willing
to
provide
connectivity,
but
as
far
as
us
completing
that
there's
a
large,
privately
owned
track
between
us
and
the
the
areas
to
the
right.
U
Okay,
yeah,
that
is,
that
is
correct,
we'd,
be
we'd,
be
certainly
willing
to
connect,
but
we
don't
own
or
control
that
land
and
have
no
are
not
in
any
negotiations
to
do
so,
and
that,
I
think,
like
john
said,
I
think
it
would
certainly
be
happy
to
connect,
but
I
don't
think
it's
a
feasible.
U
You
know
connection
just
from
for
a
top
topographic
and
environmental
standards,
but
if
someone
wants
to
do
it,
we're
happy
to
you
know
to
connect
at
a
later
date.
We've
planned
for
that.
A
O
A
N
Morgan,
okay,
now
we'll
move
to
number
e5,
which
is
a
portion
of
properties
on
st
phillip
lyon,
street
king
street
and
ackerman's
court,
there's
also
corresponding
rezoning
that
I'll
show
in
the
next
slide.
These
are
height
district
changes.
This
is
the
courier
square
property
it's
owned
by
evening,
post
industries.
N
This
request
for
e5
is
a
change
from
the
two
and
a
half
to
three
story:
height
district
to
the
three
and
a
half
story:
height
district
and
you'll
notice.
There
is
a
setback.
I
believe
it's
about
a
30-foot
setback
from
st
phillips
street
and
we'll
show
some
images
in
a
minute
that
kind
of
point
to
why
there
is
that
setback,
and
this
is
all
to
make
sure
that
the
height
is
conducive
to
the
traditional
view
of
the
neighborhood
along
st
phillips
street.
N
But
e5
is
for
a
change
for
this
area
from
two
and
a
half
to
three
two
and
a
half
to
three
story
to
three
and
a
half
story,
and
then
e6
is
the
adjoining
piece
of
land
that
would
go
from
six
stories
to
seven
stories
in
the
area
that
is
shown
cross-hatched
so
again,
you're
you're,
two
and
a
half
to
three
moving
to
three
and
a
half
is
in
here.
N
Then
there's
a
jump
up
to
six
that
already
exists
in
this
area
here
and
then
the
area
that's
cross-hatched
would
potentially
go
to
seven.
Both
of
these
were
heard
by
planning
commission
a
month
ago
and
were
recommended
for
approval.
There
is
a
corresponding
change
to
the
basic
zoning
on
some
of
the
property
here
that
was
held
up
for
a
month
at
planning
commission
and
will
be
coming
to
you
all
next
month,
but
this
is
just
for
the
heights
on
these
properties
and
I'll
show
you
some
slides
that
help
explain
this
further.
N
This,
of
course,
is
in
the
century
five
plan
as
our
urban
core.
So
that
is
the
area
that
we
do
say
that
the
greatest
level
of
heights
in
the
city
are
appropriate.
Here
is
an
outline
of
the
overall
project
site
here.
Of
course,
it's
parking
lots
for
the
post
and
courier
and
other
undeveloped,
lots
or
previously
developed
lots
that
they
own
here
is
an
aerial
view.
N
Looking
from
the
saint
phillips
street
side
towards
king
street,
there's
the
post
and
couriers
printing
plant,
here's
a
view
from
king
street
of
the
property,
another
view
from
king
street
of
the
property,
a
view
at
the
corner
of
line
and
saint
philip
and
then
from
saint
philip
on
the
southwest
side
and
residential
in
the
corner
of
ackerman's
court
and
then
residential
online
street.
N
To
give
you
context
of
what's
up
on
the
street
frontage
in
these
areas
and
here's
king
street
looking
south
and
lion
street
looking
west
and
saint
philip
and
ackerman's
and
saint
philip
and
bogard.
N
So
the
applicant
has
also
given
some
slides
that
help
to
explain
the
height
district
change.
Again,
you've
got
the
30
foot
setback
from
st
phillips
street,
so
the
front
30
feet
is
just
two
and
a
half
or
three
stories.
Then
the
change
that
they
are
requesting
would
go
to
three
and
a
half
stories
30
feet
back.
Then
there
would
be
a
further
break
here
in
the
area.
N
That's
only
allowed
to
go
to
six
stories
at
present
and
then
there
would
be
a
change
to
seven
stories
for
this
middle
portion
and
that
is
required
to
be
25
feet
back
from
king
street,
in
line
with
all
the
height
districts
that
were
recommended.
It's
also
133
feet
back
from
line
street.
This
all
helps
to
make
that
height
less
visible
to
the
surrounding
area,
and
I
know
that
the
applicants
have
worked
very
extensively
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
I
think
you'll
hear
from
the
neighborhood
tonight
about
their
work
with
the
neighborhood
on
this.
N
So
the
current
allowable
zoning
envelope
is
for
six
stories
in
the
center
and
three
stories
here.
That's
the
maximum
envelope
that
could
be
there.
N
N
So
again,
the
field
would
be
very
much
in
keeping
with
the
neighborhood,
and
this
is
the
final
kind
of
image
of
what
the
height
request
goes
to
the
three
and
a
half
behind
the
three
story:
buildings,
the
step
to
four,
rather
than
the
six
that
is
currently
allowed,
and
then
you
would
have
seven
in
this
kind
of
h
form
here
and
they
would
stay
at
four
stories
for
their
development
on
the
corner
and
three
stories
for
the
development
at
the
corner
on
line
street.
N
This
is
a
overall,
broader
image
of
some
of
the
other
projects
that
are
nearby.
There
is
the
liberty,
senior
housing
that
is
going
through
bar
review,
starting
soon,
that
would
is
proposed
at
seven
floors
in
this
location.
There's
the
existing
student
housing
that
goes
up
to
seven
floors
at
the
corner
of
spring
and
king.
N
There
is
the
courier
square
phase,
one
that
goes
up
to
eight
floors
on
the
other
side
of
the
post
and
career
printing
plant,
and
then
there
is
the
line
street
development
that
is
approved
already
through
var
for
nine
stories
over
here
so
again,
very
much
in
keeping
some
of
the
buildings
that
are
in
this
urban
core
area
of
the
city.
There's
also
a
new
five-story
office
building
under
construction
right
here
in
this
location
of
king
street,
and
this
is
a
very
important
slide.
N
It
shows
the
the
the
view
an
average
person
would
have
from
st
phillips
street
looking
back
towards
this
development.
If
these
heights
were
approved,
it
shows
how
the
three-story
buildings
on
st
phillips
street
fronting
would
help
to
block
the
taller
buildings
to
the
rear,
so
that
the
perception
as
you're
on
st
phillips
street
is
that
you're
still
in
a
you,
know
two
or
three
story
type
of
zone.
N
Y
I'm
doing
great,
you
actually
did
very
well
with
my
last
name.
I've
heard
far
worse.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
morgan
did
a
great
job
highlighting
the
project,
but
I'll
just
maybe
review
a
few
highlights
here.
My
name's
ben,
representing
graystar,
we're
partnering
with
evening
post
industries
on
this
project,
same
partnership
and
structure
as
the
courier
one
phase
two
project
or
I'm
sorry
phase.
One
project
we're
really
proud
of
the
staff
support
on
this
project.
We've
worked
hand-in-hand
with
them
to
craft
a
unique
height
and
a
unique
building
strategy.
Y
Here
it
was
focused
really
on
respect,
respecting
our
surroundings,
creating
kind
of
great
pedestrian
urban
spaces
and
following
the
city's
design
principles,
we've
we've
essentially
placed
a
lot
of
allowable
perimeter
height
towards
the
interior
of
the
site
in
less
visible
areas.
We
received
no
major
comments
or
concerns
in
the
height
from
planning
commission
we're
unanimously
recommended
there,
and,
lastly,
probably
most
importantly,
graystar
and
epi
have
had
extensive
and
ongoing
dialogue
over
the
past
five
to
six
months.
That
goes
with
the
city,
the
mayor's
office,
and
particularly
our
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
neighbors.
Y
Y
We
are
requesting
additional
height
next
to
a
very
dynamic
group
and
we've
gained
their
support.
That's
hard
to
come
by
these
days
on
sensitive
issues,
so
I
think,
by
working
hand-in-hand
with
them,
we've
addressed
a
number
of
their
concerns,
livability
issues
that
have
come
about
in
this
rapidly
developing
part
of
town
and
that's
resulted
in
strong
support.
We've
been
a
very
unique
approach:
healthy,
it's
been
transparent,
it's
been
open,
and
so,
while
not
directly
related
to
this
hype,
request,
we've
really
uniquely
addressed
a
number
of
their
livability
concerns.
Y
B
B
AA
AA
We
applaud
the
team
for
their
recent
announcement
at
planning
commission
that
they
intend
to
incorporate
permanent
workforce
housing
on
the
site,
in
addition
to
paying
the
entire
fee
in
lieu.
This
level
of
commitment
to
affordable
housing
is
unprecedented
and
highly
commendable.
However,
historic
charleston
foundation
does
believe
that
the
current
allowable
height
districts
are
appropriate
for
this
site
and
opposes
the
rezoning
to
allow
for
additional
height
for
a
portion
of
the
site.
Fronting
st
phillips
street.
AA
The
proposal
increased
from
two
and
a
half
to
three
and
a
half
stories
with
the
stated
intention
to
request
four
stories
from
bar
for
architectural
merit
is
not
appropriate
for
this
historic
neighborhood.
The
houses
in
the
surrounding
neighborhood
to
the
west
and
the
north
are
predominantly
two
in
two
and
a
half
story
houses.
There
are
historic
properties
located
on
the
courier
square
phase
ii
site
and
it's
particularly
important
that
the
height
scale
be
sensitive
to
these
houses.
AA
Three
of
these
properties
on
st
phillips
are
protected
by
historic,
charleston
foundation,
historic
charleston
foundation,
easements
and
covenants,
and
in
order
to
properly
scale
to
the
neighborhood
and
relate
to
existing
historic
homes.
This
section
of
the
property
property
is
appropriately
zoned
in
the
current
two
and
a
half
to
three
height
district
and
should
remain
as
such.
The
rezoning
request
and
classification
from
six
to
seven
stories
for
the
central
portion
of
the
site,
with
the
stated
intention
to
request
eight
stories
from
bar
for
architectural
merit
is
not
appropriate
for
the
site
either.
AA
While
this
property
is
located
within
the
urban
core
and
is
within
the
area
of
the
peninsula
deemed
to
be
the
spine,
the
peak
of
the
spine's
height
is
actually
located
to
blocks
spanning
between
king
and
meeting
streets.
The
spine
should
then
taper
downward
in
height
into
the
blocks
to
the
east
and
west,
because
the
site
was
west
of
king
street
and
adjacent
to
the
cannonbarro
elliot
pro
neighborhood.
It's
appropriately
zoned.
At
its
current
height
district
of
six
stories,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight.
AA
AB
Maren,
mary
teklenberg
council
members,
my
name
is
marion
hawkins,
president
of
the
canonburgh
alliance,
neighborhood
association.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight.
I
would
echo
ben's
comments.
We
have
been
very
impressed
by
the
transparency
and
engagement
from
great
star
and
eating
post
industries
with
the
neighborhood.
This
has
been
an
ongoing
discussion
for
several
months.
AB
I
will
say
we
we
have
major
concerns
regarding
this
will
be
probably
even
more
more
discussed
at
this.
The
next
meeting,
but
next
council
meeting,
but
with
this
this
whole
entire
project
areas
is
zoned,
gb
and
and
will
be
if,
if
approved,
would
be
mu1
mu2,
which
will
allow
for
str
use.
AB
AB
Greystar
and
epi
have
have
met
us
and
have
really
reached
out,
and
we
appreciate
that
they
have
decided
to
not
allow
any
late
night
operations
from
12
a.m
to
5
a.m.
In
the
mu
2
area,
also,
the
the
str
has
they
have
agreed
to
put
in
a
d
restriction
for
20
years
moratorium
on
str
use,
even
though
the
stated
use
of
the
whole
project
within
with
increased
housing
units
will
not.
O
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
and
members
of
council,
I'm
speaking
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
preservation
society
of
charleston-
and
I
just
want
to
commend
the
applicant
here-
they
reached
out
to
us
early
and
committed
to
ensuring
great
public
benefit,
the
compatible
compatibility
of
uses.
That's
been
discussed
in
addition
to
the
work
cities,
workforce,
housing,
permanent
editions
are
really
commendable.
O
Nonetheless,
the
height
and
mass
will
be
highly
impactful
for
this
neighborhood
rezoning
to
seven
stories
across
the
street
from
the
two
to
three
story.
Context
of
the
neighborhood
is
cause
for
concern,
particularly
because
we
expect
the
applicant
to
seek
an
eighth
floor
for
architectural
merit
at
the
bar
I'd
like
to
make
three
brief
points.
O
O
O
So
in
some
and
with
sincere
respect
to
the
applicant,
we
ask
that
you
deny
the
request,
given
that
the
heights
proposed
would
be
out
of
scale
with
the
context
of
the
site.
Thank
you.
So
much.
E
A
E
I
was
at
the
various
neighborhood
meetings
all
but
well
a
couple
of
times
when
the
developer
came
and
explained
what
they're
planning
on
doing,
and
they
had
a
lot
of
discussion
back
and
forth
with
the
neighborhood
association
and
with
the
residents
in
the
area,
and
it
was
a
long
dialogue
and
they
went
along
with
the
neighborhood
and
doing
certain
things
and
not
having
certain
things
that
the
neighborhood
wanted
so
far
as
late
night
establishment
on
between
line
and
spring
street
and
not
about
having
bars
to
stay
up
until
two
o'clock
and
all
this.
E
So
they
came
up
with
this
agreement
and
they
came
up
with
the
understanding
that
these
things
going
to
be
put
in
place
and
the
neighborhood
association
was
satisfied
with
it
and
that's
why
they
went
wholeheartedly
to
support
it.
And
I
was
there
so
whenever,
when
I
met
with
them
more
than
one
time
also
pertaining
to
it.
I
went
strictly,
along
with
the
neighborhood,
to
make
sure
that
the
neighborhood
agreed
with
it
and
with
the
community
iran
agreed
with
it
and
they
all
agreed
didn't,
have
anyone
speaking
against
it.
E
So
I
said
well
since
you're
doing
that
and
you
are
satisfied,
then
I'm
satisfied
and
I'm
about
to
approve
it
and
that's
what
I'm
saying
that
I'm
about
to
approve
it
because
they
did
they
do
deal
guilty
by
going
to
the
neighborhood
more
than
one
time
and
addressing
the
issues
that
the
neighborhood
had
and
went
along
with
the
neighborhood
with
the
compromising
and
they
did
a
good
job
on
it.
J
Shade,
thank
you
mayor,
mr
morgan.
Would
you
mind
going
back
to
that
slide
that
sort
of
showed
that
sliding
height
a
differential.
J
That
one
right
there
yeah
so
we're
talking
about
an
approving
item,
five
and
number
six
from
going
from
a
two
and
a
half
to
three
story
to
another:
three
and
a
half
story.
So
I'm
talking
about
a
half
story
and
that
would
be
facing
the
what's
showing
on
here.
That
would
be
where,
on
on
this,
this
particular
slide.
J
Area
the
green
area
right
there
and
then
the
same
thing
with
the
six
to
seven
would
be
in
this
area,
and
I
think
your
comment
earlier
was
being
in
this
core
area
of
the
city.
This
is
where
the
the
planners
have
decided
it's
okay,
to
have
this
higher
density
higher
height
for
these
developments.
I
did
I
hear
you
correct
me
on
that.
That's.
N
Correct-
and
there
were
some
statements
about
the
greater
heights
being
between
king
and
meaning,
and
there
is
more
allowance
for
height
between
king
and
meeting,
but
the
feeling
in
this
area
has
been
that
you
know
if
it
could
be
of
a
scale
that
is
not.
You
know
duly
perceived
from
the
the
street.
You
know
like
st
phillips
street
two
passersby
on
st
phillips
street
or
on
king
and
again
on
king
you've,
got
the
the
set
back
here,
the
25
feet
that
helps
to
shroud
the
taller
building
as
well.
N
J
Is
a
good
compromise
and
what
what
council
member
mitchell
has
just
relayed
to
us?
What
the
community
has
been
engaged
with
this
process
and
they
have
received
certain
concessions
based
upon
their
support
and
councilman
mitchell
has
sort
of
experienced.
J
So
I
mean
this
sounds
like
a
good
result
when
you,
when
do
you
look
at
it
from
a
bird's
eye?
That's
why
I
looked
at
this
slide
you're,
giving
a
bird's
eye
view
of
what
this
is
going
to
look
like
this
seems
like
a
good
result
for
the
community
and
for
the
folks
who
got
this
plan.
So
I
appreciate
those
comments
that
I
heard
earlier
about
that.
Thank
you.
D
A
C
P
I
have
a
little
different
reason
why
I
have
some
reservations
here
tonight
number
one
I
look
at
who
the
applicant
is
even
post
industries,
one
of
the
big
community
partners
throughout
the
city,
the
posting
courier,
their
parent
company,
and
I
have
to
think
back
to
courier
square,
and
one
thing
that
really
disappoints
me
about
courier
square
is
the
lack
of
affordable
housing.
P
They
are
a
fee
in
lieu
kind
of
partner.
They
would
rather
pay
the
fee,
and
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
example
of
what's
happened
to
prepare
for
this
meeting
tonight
in
in
this
rezoning
I
looked
at
the
guild,
which
is
a
gray
star
development,
which
is
was
the
first
phase
of
courier
square.
P
Let
me
just
explain
to
you
what
the
a
two
bedroom
two
bath,
it's
1495
square
feet
and
it's
being
marketed
for
eight
thousand
dollars
and
five
hundred
eight
thousand
five
hundred
and
twenty
dollars
a
month
in
rent.
P
P
For
that
reason,
I
just
I
hold
our
community
partners
to
a
higher
standard,
and
you
know
we're
talking
about
raising
the
fee
in
lieu
we're
talking
about
a
lot
of
other
things
right
now,
I
feel
like
the
only
person
that
gains
from
this
is
the
applicant.
We
gain
nothing
as
a
city
from
this
and
I
expect
more
out
of
our
community
partners.
So
for
that
reason
tonight
I'm
voting
against
it.
X
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you.
Everyone
who's
offered
your
opinions
about
this.
I
do
join
councilmember
griffin
and
my
concern.
I
I
watched
the
planning
commission.
I
watched,
I
think
both
planning
commissions,
the
first
one
when
they
asked
to
defer
this
issue
for
another
explanation,
about
the
workforce,
housing
changes
to
the
field
and
the
structure
that
we
are
going
to
be
considering
very
soon,
and
then
I
watched
this
past
week
when
the
planning
commission
gave
a
hundred
percent
approval
to
to
the
to
both
the
height
and
the
rezoning.
X
So
when
I
saw
that
only
the
rezone,
only
the
height
was
coming
through
for
rezoning
this
evening,
I
I
asked
mr
morgan
to
you
know
explain
to
me
how
that
could
be
possible
first
of
all,
and
then
why
would
that
the
developer
want
to
do
it
in
two
parts
like
this
he
said
it
is
possible
because
it's
the
that
basically,
the
option
of
the
owner
to
to
ask
for
when
their
rezoning
is
is
is
heard
once
it's
gone
past
the
planning
commission-
and
he
didn't
really
have
he
he
didn't
know
he
could
answer
the
question.
X
X
I
mean
I
I
agree
with
council,
member
griffin
and
everybody
you've
said
that
this
you
know
this
partnership
between
evening
post
and
gray
star,
I
couldn't
be
more
favorable
for
for
a
city,
that's
come
to
rely
on
those
kinds
of
local
property
owners
combined
with
people
who
have
established
themselves
with
their
headquarters
here
in
charleston
and
and
obviously
you
know,
love
to
bring
new
products
to
their
own
community.
X
So
on
that
you
know
theoretical
basis.
We
have
two
great
applicants
that
are
asking
for
these
rezoning
decisions,
but
until
until
we
have
an
actual
site
plan
and
and
going
through
that
this
is
a
trusting
relationship
and-
and
I
think
we
should
be
willing
to
trust
the
word
of
these
partners.
X
On
the
other
hand,
I
don't
understand
why
they
feel
like
they
need
the
height
right
now.
What
what
if
worst
case,
we
for
some
reason
we
decided
not
to
award
the
mu2
designation,
then
they
would
have
the
height
for
gb
product,
and
I
don't
know
what
that
would
mean
if
in
terms
of
the
the
owners
willing
to
develop
under
a
gb
designation
or
if
they
would
look
around
for
new
buyers.
So
to
me
these
are.
These
have
been
delivered
together,
these
two
different
types
of
rezoning
to
the
height
and
to
the
mu.
X
X
I
also
was
very
careful
to
pay
attention
to
the
answer
that
the
developer
gave
us
gave
the
planning
commission
last
week
about
their
their
new
offer
to
pay
a
hundred
percent
of
the
fee
in
lieu,
essentially
under
the
old
price
that
we
currently
have
on
our
on
our
zoning
code
and
then
and
then
set
aside
workforce
units
that
would
be
permanently
affordable
at
a
workforce
income
range,
but
they,
but
they
would
not
designate
how
many
units
they
plan
to
do
and
the
answer
that
they
gave
to
two
or
three
different
questions
about
that
was
well
they're,
working
it
through
with
the
housing
department
and
our
planners,
and
I
think
that's
fair,
that's
fair.
X
They
don't
have
to
know
right
away,
but
again,
why
would
we
want
to
give
give
away
opportunities
to
developers
who
haven't
really,
you
know
been
able
to
put
all
of
their
cards
on
the
table
in
in
in
giving
us
the
best
deal
to
say
yes
to
so.
Those
are
my
two
reasons.
I
would
love
to
see
a
deferral
tonight
of
this.
These
two
particular
votes.
If
we
can't
do
that,
then
I
think
I'm
going
to
have
to
join
councilmember
griffin
and
and
reluctantly
vote.
X
No,
because
I
know
this,
this
has
been
properly
vetted
throughout
the
neighborhood.
I
agree
that
canterbury,
elliot
bro
are
sets
of
citizens
who
do
their
homework
and
don't
say
their
support
easily,
without
without
kind
of
consensus.
Building,
and
certainly,
like
remember
mitchell,
you
know-
has
has
followed
along
with
us
from
the
point
of
his
constituents
and
our
own
responsibility
as
council
people.
A
Thank
you,
council,
member
rappel
and
then
I'll
come
back
to
you.
Councilmember
mitchell.
AC
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
you
know
when
we
talk
about
affordable
housing.
Y'all
are
going
to
get
sick
of
me
saying
this,
but
but
it's
just
the
truth.
Price
is
a
is
a
product
of
supply
and
demand.
We've
got
high
prices
right
now,
because
we
don't
have
enough
supply.
We
have
to
find
a
way
to
get
more
housing
of
all
types
built
in
the
city.
In
my
opinion,
I
like
seeing
this
a
lot
more
than
I
like
seeing
dense
developments
on
john's
island
or
james
island
or
west
ashley.
AC
This
is
exactly
where
you
want
to
go
high
and
you
want
to
go
tall
and
you
want
to
go
dense
in
a
city.
It
makes
perfect
sense
for
a
development
of
this
kind
in
this
place.
I
do
see
the
the
logic
in
trying
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
what's
coming
in
here
and
not
you
know,
rezoning
piecemeal.
AC
I
would
just
say
to
that.
We
have
a
tool
in
the
city
for
us
to
have
a
much
better,
clearer,
more
defined
understanding
of
what
we're
getting
when
we
do
a
rezoning
and
it's
a
pud,
a
pud
presents
all
kinds
of
benefits
for
developers
and
also
the
city
to
get
a
much
clearer
understanding
of
not
only
what
the
uses
are
going
to
be,
how
high
they're
going
to
be.
But
what
they're
going
to
look
like
what
the
layout
is
be,
and
I
just
throw
that
out
there
as
a
tool.
AC
I
mean
there's
no
reason
that
I
know
why
affordable
housing
and
workforce
housing
can't
be
negotiated
and
built
into
that
pud
framework
as
well.
I'm
not
suggesting
we
need
to
do
that
here
I
mean
it
sounds
like
these
folks
have
been
working
very
hard
on
this
for
a
long
period
of
time,
but
that's
something
for
us
to
keep
in
mind
as
we
move
forward.
AC
I
think
that
what
I've
been
hearing
from
my
colleagues
today,
whether
it
be
on
this
matter
or
the
one
that
we
just
looked
at
on
john's
island,
is
you
know
when
you're,
just
rezoning
to
you
know,
base
zoning
districts
and
very
broad
zoning
categories.
AC
We
we
do
have
no
idea
what's
going
to
come
in
there
at
this
stage,
that's
not
how
the
system
is
set
up.
The
pud
is
the
only
method
that
we
have
currently
on
the
books
under
south
carolina
law
for
us
to
have
a
much
clearer
understanding
of
what
we're
getting
in
exchange
for
the
rezoning,
and
I
just
throw
that
out
there
for
consideration,
but
but
y'all.
If
we're
gonna
ever
make
serious
headway
on
affordable
housing
in
this
city,
we're
ever
going
to
make
serious
headway
on
the
traffic
nightmares.
AC
We
used
to
experience
coming
on
and
off
the
peninsula
every
morning,
whether
it
be
on
johns
island,
james
island,
west
ashley.
We
are
going
to
have
to
start
getting
very
comfortable
with
tall
buildings,
dense
developments
on
the
peninsula
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
guys
we
are
not
the
soviet
union
central
planning.
What
people's
prices
can
be
on
units?
At
some
point?
The
market
is
going
to
have
to
dictate
what
the
cost
of
housing
is
right.
AC
Now
we
have
a
market
problem
caused
by
in
a
lot
of
ways,
the
not
intentional,
but
the
negative
consequences
of
our
zoning
policies
that
has
made
it
difficult
to
build
difficult
to
build
on
the
peninsula
and
we're
stuck
with
situations
where
we
have
a
affordable
housing
crisis
where
we
need
what
twenty
thousand
more
units
to
start.
You
know
making
progress
on
this
issue.
You
know
it's
very
simple:
it's
either
we
grow
out
or
we
grow
up,
and
I
would
take
the
latter
every
day
in
that
equation.
E
Yes,
mr
mayor,
I
understand
my
colleagues
I
heard
you
know
heard
what
they
were
saying,
but
up
I
have
like
I
said.
I
have
met
with
the
developers
on
various
occasions
more
than
one
occasion,
even
at
the
neighborhood
association.
If
you
know
the
ellenbarry
cannonbar
neighbor
association,
they
don't
just
don't
let
anything
pass.
E
They
have
people
there
and
that
neighborhood
associates
that
that
really
really
goes
through
everything's
before
things
have
passed
approved
there
in
that
particular
area,
and
all
that
area
we're
talking
about
right
on
some
phillips
street
nine
street
kings
on
king.
That's
what
I
grew
up
there.
I
know
the
area
it
has
changed.
E
My
ex-father-in-law
had
owned
everything
on
some
phillips
street
there
and
I
think
the
mayor
might
know
by
the
pete's
grill
and
pizza
el
dorado
room
and
all
the
houses
and
all
along
that
area,
where
they're
playing
on
building
but
the
developer.
We
are
working
with
them
with
the
affordable
housing
piece.
We
just
have
not
bringing
that
back
up
today,
because
this
is
only
dealing
with
the
rezoning.
E
There
will
be
housing
in
there
and
there
will
be
a
part
of
the
the
fee
and
loot
there
along
with
it,
but
there
will
be
affordable
units
that
can
be
placed
in
there
and
will
be
placed
in
there
perpetuity
for
100
years.
Today
we
are
just
dealing
with
the
part
of
the
rezoning.
E
You
will
hear
more
about
that.
They
are
working
with
general's
office
and
they
are
working
with
me
with
the
so
far
the
affordable
housing
piece
is
concerned.
That's
why
I'm
saying
and
that's
why
I
came
up
wholeheartedly
and
supporting
them,
because
otherwise
I
wouldn't
support
it
either,
but
that's
why
I'm
supporting
them,
because
I
know
what's
coming
for
so
far
as
the
affordable
housing
piece
and
the
deal
restriction.
That's
going
to
be
there,
and
this
is
what
they're
planning
on
doing
and
we
putting
those
things
in
writing.
E
But
right
now,
today
we
are
dealing
with
only
the
hype
and
that's
why
the
neighborhood
association,
along
with
the
community,
they
were
satisfied
with
the
hype
where
it's
going
through
and
how
it
was
presented
more
than
one
time
at
the
neighborhood
association.
So
that's
why
I'm
going
along
with
it.
So
I
understand
that
colleagues
are
saying
instead
of
choice,
but
this
is
why
I'm
singing
this
is
an
area
that
I
represent.
This
is
the
area
I'll
be
down
right
there
with
my
neighbor
association.
E
If
anybody
knows
me,
I'm
always
there
at
my
neighborhood
association
meeting,
I'm
always
there
to
make
sure
that
things
are
going
to
be
done
properly
and
be
done
correctly
and
that's
what
I
do.
Everyone
have
their
own
opinion,
but
this
is
what
I
do
for
my
community
if
they
said
no
and
I'm
hearing
things
and
if
I
don't
understand
and
I'm
not
satisfied
with
I'll,
tell
them
no,
you
know
and
that's
why
I
said
this
is
why
it
is
coming
the
way
it's
coming
now.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
waring
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
councilmember
griffin.
H
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Listen.
I
think
this
is
a
fabulous
conversation,
everybody's
rolling
up
their
sleeve
and
and
bringing
their
best
game
to
the
table.
You
know
if
our
planning
commission
had
voted.
You
know
four
to
three
on
this.
One
I'd
probably
have
a
little
bit
more
of
a
question
mark,
but
it
was
unanimous
for,
and
we
know
the
due
diligence
that
they
do
when
it
comes
to
planting
the
city.
H
You
know
a
couple
of
years
ago,
before
the
prior
election
city
changed
the
parking
requirement
from
one
and
a
half
per
unit
to
one,
because
that
would
get
frankly
more
dense
units
in
line
with
where
mass
transit
would
be
in
this
city.
H
You
know
on
the
day
of
uber
and
alternative
transportation,
certainly
of
I
go
to
church
on
st
phillips
street
and
I
think
that's
grand
central
for
bike
traffic
going
to
and
fro
from
the
college
of
charleston.
I'm
gonna
support,
councilman
mitchell
on
this,
and
I
think
councilman
appel
is
right.
H
When
it
comes
to
a
putt,
we
need
to
relook
and
rethink
because
some
of
the
information
we
want
plan
unit
development
requires
all
of
that
information
to
be
provided
by
the
developer
up
front
prior
to
any
vote
being
taken
place
short
of
that
bringing
it
through
in
pieces.
Frankly,
I
think
provides
more
due
diligence
on
behalf
of
the
planning
commission,
our
staff,
the
community,
as
well
as
this
council.
H
We
don't
have
to
deal
with
the
zoning,
the
height
and
all
of
that.
At
the
same
time,
it
is
odd
to
do
it
that
way.
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
first
times
I've
ever
seen
it
done
that
way,
but
frankly,
it
enabled
us
to
to
ratchet
down
on
the
decision
making
a
whole
lot
better.
H
So
I
I'm
gonna
support
this,
because
if
density
is
gonna
go
on
the
peninsula
king
street
meeting
streets,
certainly
two
of
the
main
corridors
that
one
run
from
one
length
of
the
peninsula
all
the
way
to
the
interstate.
So
this
is
the
place
for
it
to
go.
So
I
will
I
hear
you
councilman
griffin,
8
000
a
unit.
There's
no
doubt
about
it.
I
won't
be
leasing
that
unit,
but
maybe
somebody
from
connecticut
will
so.
H
My
one
question
is:
why
is
it
that
the-
and
I
hope
I
hope
this
isn't
correct-
well,
the
new
fee
in
lieu
that
we
voted
on?
Why
would
that
not
be
applicable
to
this
development,
because
the
zoning.
AD
H
In
place,
yet
it
didn't
finalize,
can
anybody
tell
me
if
the
new
fee
in
lieu
would
be
applicable
to
this
development.
S
Wearing
that
that
depends
on
what
city
council
wants
to
do
if
they
want
to
a
final
reading
of
the
ordinance
ensure
that
it
applies
to
applications
that
are
pending,
they
can
do
so
if
they
want
to
have
it
apply
to
application
or
rezonings
as
of
march
9th.
They
can
do
so,
but
I
think
that's
in
the
discretion
of
city
council-
and
you
know
it's
also
in
your
discretion-
I
I
will
note
we
had
that
earlier
rezoning
tonight.
S
That
was
after
march
9th,
so
you
know
the
final
version
of
the
ordinance
may
change
may
decide
whether
or
not
that
is
included
under
the
new
or
the
old
ordinance,
but
I
think
it's
still
wonder
in
the
discretion
accounts
until
the
ordinance
is
adopted,
you
don't
have
a
vested
right
to
rezone,
so
courier
square
is
not
in
a
situation
where
they
have
a
vested
right
to
continue
under
the
current
version
of
the
ordinance.
S
You
would
on
second
reading.
You
would
ensure
that
the
ordinance
is
effective
as
to
all
zonings
that
have
all
applications
or
excuse
me.
S
I
think,
right
now
it
uses
a
march
9th
date,
but
you
could
change
that
if
you
wanted
to
to
all
so
that
it
applies
to
all
project
except
projects
except
zonings
projects
that
have
been
rezoned
prior
to
second
reading,
so
that
if,
if
this
project
is
its
second
reading
and
is
being
still
being
rezoned
and
the
new
ordinance
would
apply,
I
think
the
developer
sort
of
came
with
the
idea
that
they
wanted
to
do
number
one
permanent,
affordable
housing
on
site,
well,
number
one
permanent,
affordable
housing
and
number
two
affordable
housing
on
site.
S
That's
what
they
represented
the
planning
commission.
They
wanted
to
do,
but
I
think
that
was
under
the
understanding.
The
old
ordinance
would
apply
and
planning
commission
was
comfortable
with
that.
But
I've
been
pretty
consistent
in
talking
with
them
and
anybody
else.
Who's
asked
me
that
it's
up
to
council
and
that
there's
no
vested
right
to
re-zone
under
the
current
orders.
H
A
P
Yes,
sir,
I
am
compelled
from
councilmember
mitchell's
comments
to
go.
Follow
his
lead
on
this
and-
and
I
think
councilmember
appel
had
some
great
points
as
well
about
we're
kind
of
dealing
with
the
lesser
of
two
evils
here
you
know,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know,
if
we're
willing
to
give
up
some
height,
then
we
need,
even
in
post
industries,
to
be
willing
to
pay
the
new
fee
and
live.
P
So
you
know
we
all
have
to
give
a
little
bit
if
we
want
to
take
a
little
bit-
and
you
know
I
think
that
would
be
the
right
thing
to
do.
But
I'm
going
to
follow
your
lead
council,
member
mitchell
and
I
hope
in
these
next
couple
of
weeks.
Maybe
you
can
get
some
more
info
to
me
about
what
they're
looking
to
do
affordable,
housing-wise,
I'd
love
to
hear
what
their
plan
is
in
terms
of
affordable
housing.
A
Well,
thank
you,
mr
councilmember
griffin,
any
other
questions
or
comments
and
I'll
I'll
just
add
that
I
want
to
thank
ben
with
grace
star
and
evening
post
industries
for
for
working
with
us
on
that
issue
and,
as
mentioned,
there's
more
discussion
to
come
on
on
the
affordability
for
this
project
at
our
next
meeting.
When
we
consider
the
mu
zoning,
I
I
hear
councilmember,
appel
and
wearing
about
the
pud.
I
I
do
think
in
this.
A
In
this
case,
they
they
are
proposing
a
mixed
use,
development
that
includes
retail
office
and
residential.
So
the
mu
zoning
was
was
what
that
was
tailored
for
as
well.
So
so
this
has
moved
far
along
along
with
their
plans
that
I
think
it
fits
the
mu
zoning.
A
Of
course,
we'll
talk
more
about
that
next
time
and
and
regarding
the
height,
even
though
it
is
not
the
block
between
king
and
meeting
the
the
highest
part
of
the
proposed
development
is
closer
to
the
king
street
side
and
as
the
drawing
shows
from
from
st
phillips
street.
The
the
angle
of
it
is
is,
is
not
obtrusive
is,
is
I
guess
the
three-story
buildings
along
saint
philip
street
will
kind
of
hide
the
building.
A
So
so
I
think
it's
appropriate
for
this
location
and
plan
to
support
it
and
we'll
continue
the
conversation,
but
I
want
to
thank
them
for
working
with
gianna
in
the
housing
department
on
an
affordable
proposal
that
I
think
will
be
positive.
A
So
hearing
no
other
comment
or
question
I'll
call
the
question
all
in
favor
of
of
this
matter
on
numbers.
What,
where
are
we
at
here
five
and
six
numbers,
five
and
six,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
Thank
you
very
much
everyone
and
back
to
mr
morgan,.
N
Okay.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Now
this
is
item
e7.
This
is
a
code
amendment
for
the
zoning
ordinance
to
allow
to
the
tube
to
add
to
the
table
of
permitted
uses
utility
scale,
battery
storage
facilities
as
a
principal
use
and
allow
this
to
be
a
permanent
use
within
light
industrial
and
heavy
industrial
zoning
districts.
N
I
did
get
recommended
for
approval
by
staff
and
planning
commission.
I
know
mayor,
you
had
had
some
questions
and
we
heard
through
the
folks
that
were
interested
in
pursuing
this,
that
they
are
not
moving
as
fast
as
they
thought
they
would
be.
So
if
council
wanted
more
discussion,
they
could
come
to
a
future
meeting
with
this
item
and
give
more
background
on
this.
If
council
is
interested
in
that.
A
All
right,
then,
the
matter
comes
before
council
correct.
I
had
asked
a
little
more
explanation
about
you
know
the
intended
use
that
this
would
permit.
I
really
didn't
get
any
definitive
answers
back
other
than
what
mr
morgan
just
shared.
So
if,
if
no
one
minds
I,
I
would
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
defer
to
allow
them
to
bring
us
back
some
more
information
about
what
the
intended
use
is.
A
What
I
didn't
want
to
have
a
blanket
approval
and
not
know
what
kinds
of
batteries
I
I
know
for
sustainability
purposes,
we're
going
to
have
to
allow
more
types
of
batteries
and
facilities
and
charging
stations
and
all
like
that,
but
I
just
thought
it
would
be.
I'm.
A
N
X
A
X
A
N
E9
is
adjacent
to
the
previous
one.
It's
at
2182
parkway
drive
in
riverland
terrace,
and
it
is
a
request
for
sr2,
because
it's
a
smaller
lot
and
couldn't
meet
the
sr1
standards.
There's
already
a
house
on
the
property.
I
can
show
you
an
image
of
the
property
there
you
go
so
the
house
fills
up
most
of
that
area
on
the
property
and
that's
why
it
wouldn't
have
worked
for
sr1
and
it
needs
to
be
sr2.
AC
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
the
the
rush
to
join
council.
District
11
continues
the
pace
here.
You
know
I
I
just
wanted
to
mention.
You
know
this
is
in
riverland
terrace,
which
is
obviously
an
iconic
neighborhood
in
the
city
and
in
james
island,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
in
our
ways
and
means
committee
and
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
again
during
full
council.
AC
Is
this
revised
non-standard
service
agreement
with
dominion
aka
burying
power
lines,
the
people
in
riverland
terrace
love
their
trees
if
you've
ever
been
through
riverland
terrace,
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
Unfortunately,
in
this
this
blows
most
people's
minds.
The
vast
majority
of
the
properties
in
riverland
terrace
are
in
the
county.
They
are
not
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
long
story
short
it
is.
AC
It
is
complicated
to
do
these
undergrounding
projects
in
the
doughnut
whole
scenario,
because
I
learned
today
that
charleston
county
doesn't
have
a
non-standard
service
agreement
and
in
fact,
state
law
prohibits
them
from
having
one.
So
if
there
weren't,
already
a
plethora
of
you,
know
reasons
to
join
the
city,
lower
tax
bills,
lower
rates
at
the
municipal
golf
course,
among
many
other
reasons,
the
more
homes
and
more
properties
we
can
get
annex
into
the
city
of
charleston
in
riverland
terrace
will
make
it
easier
for
us
to
green
light.
AC
Some
of
these
small
scale
service
projects
in
riverland
terrace.
So
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
there,
because
we'll
be
talking
about
that
today
and
it's
very
exciting
to
see
us
ever
so
slowly,
but
but
you
know
in
a
determined
manner,
begin
to
bring
riverland
terrace
into
the
city.
Thanks.
J
Sir,
I
just
want
to
thank
councilmember
apparel
for
my
ongoing
argument
as
to
why
we
need
to
be
more
aggressive
in
closing
these
donut
holes
and
these
subdivisions
these
neighborhoods.
This
is
a
classic
example
of
inefficient
government
management
when
we
have
to
fuss
off
with
the
county
all
these
inconsistent
rules
and
ordinances.
So
here's
a
perfect
example
that
councilman
rappell
just
relayed
to
us
to
getting
all
these
communities
into
the
into
the
city
and
why
we
need
to
be
pushing
a
little
bit
harder
on
it.
A
Thank
you
can.
Can
I
oh
councilman
jackson.
X
Thanks,
I
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
two
property
owners
that
we've
now
just
given
the
rezoning
to.
I
think
we
sort
of
missed
the
boat
when
they
were
annexed.
They
they,
they
weren't,
told
that
they
would
have
been
annexed
in,
and
so
they
were
looking
forward
to
having
reasons
to
celebrate
coming
into
the
city,
I'm
privileged
to
know,
but
the
owners
of
the
hurley
living
trust
they're.
X
Some
of
my
best
friends
from
my
college
years
and
the
the
owner
of
the
house
is
the
owner
of
jack's
cosmic
dog
over
on
17.
We,
we
lost
him
for
folly
road
some
years
ago
and
his
partners
bought
out
and
created
the
the
beer
hall,
which
is
also
very
popular
anyway.
They
these
these
and
I
know
that
they
sold
a
little
bit
of
subdivision
to
the
owners
on
parkway
who
built
the
brand
new
house
and
together
they're
already
organizing
their
community
to
do
great
things
with
tori
miller's
leadership
for
riverland
terrace.
X
So
I
think
councilmember
appel
has
gotten
two
great
brand
new
constituents.
They
they
love
to
hold
neighborhood
parades
and
serve
hot
dogs.
So,
let's
let's
go
for
it.
Thanks.
A
And
I'm
gonna
pile
on
with
an
another
factoid
about
coming
into
the
city,
so
you
save
on
your
taxes.
You
get
a
better
rate
at
the
muni
you
save
on
your
water
bill.
We
all
knew
that
as
well,
but
here's
a
new
one.
I
found
out
that
and
many
people
now
you
know,
work
out
of
their
homes.
A
If
you
have
a
business
that
you
operate
out
of
your
home
and
you
do
business
in
the
city
of
charleston,
so
you
need
a
city
of
charleston
business
license.
A
You
will
save
substantially
on
your
business
license
if
you,
if,
if
you
bring
your
residence
into
the
city
of
charleston
as
well,
so
there's
another
way
to
save
money,
all
right,
any
other
comments
or
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,.
O
A
And
fantastic,
any
comments,
questions
citizens.
A
C
A
You
guys
have
it.
Thank
you,
mr
morgan,
for
walking
us
through
all
of
those
tonight.
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
Next
up
is
our
approval
of
city
council.
P
Yes,
sir,
mr
mayor,
I
just
wanted
to
let
the
record
reflect
that.
The
item
that
I
asked
to
be
put
on
the
agenda
for
tonight
is
reflected
in
the
minutes
correctly.
I
wanted
to
go
back
and
make
sure
that
was
the
case.
I
had
asked
for
an
up
or
down
vote
in
regards
to
the
federal
stimulus
money.
I
see
here
it's
listed
as
a
discussion
item,
which
is
not
what
I
asked
for
so
I
just
want
that
to
be
clear
as
we
vote
on
the
minutes,
the
minutes
are
correct.
A
You,
sir,
all
in
favor
of
approval
of
the
minutes,
please
indicate
by
saying.
AC
B
B
B
B
And
we
have
seven
people
signed
up
to
speak
tonight.
Did
you
want
to
sign
to
have
a
time
limit.
AD
Good
evening,
council
members
and
mayor
hello
ross
how
you
doing
I
look
forward
to
any
kind
of
email
you
send
me
after
you
get
out
of
the
executive
session,
I'm
calling
once
again
it's
nice,
it's
exciting
to
hear
all
these
questions
about
connectivity
and
you're.
Looking
at
developing
a
neighborhood
got
multiple
ways
in
and
out
until
they
decide
in
the
neighborhood
to
close
two-thirds
of
the
way
ins
and
out
and
then
what
makes
it
worse.
AD
Is
they
go
before
city
council
and
say:
hey
we'd
like
to
close
the
roads
city
council
says
no,
you
don't
meet
the
requirements
of
the
two
court
cases
to
close
the
roads
that
I've
listed
in
the
comments
and
then
council
remember
stevens.
In
the
1976
meeting
said
we
are
not
closing
the
road
we're
going
to
barricade
the
road.
Can
there
be
any
questions
about
what
they're
doing,
because
he
said
specifically
we're
not
closing
we're
not
abandoning
we're
barricading
and
what
happened.
Roads
were
closed
and
trees
were
planted.
AD
Then
talk
about
traffic
flow
plans,
the
school
across
the
street
expanded
2014.
They
submitted
a
traffic
flow
plan
failed.
Then
I
was
part
of
james
island.
That
was
not
in
the
city
and
we
entered
the
city
excited
because
we
expect
that
the
traffic
codes
to
be
enforced,
we're
expecting
the
traffic
laws
being
enforced
and
they're
not
being
enforced.
AD
People
are
parking
in
the
crosswalks.
People
are
jamming
private
driveways.
My
neighbor
across
through
me
can't
get
a
work
truck
out.
I'm
asking
you
to
take
a
serious
look
at.
What's
happened
in
my
neighborhood
that
I've
represented
for
four
months
and
my
father
had
a
stroke
and
was
impeded
by
ems,
and
please
do
something
to
just
enforce
the
codes
that
are
on
the
books.
Enforce
the
traffic
codes,
remove
the
trees
put
up
a
barricade
and
we
could
talk
about
removing
the
barricade
come
up
with
some
options.
I've
got
four
different
ways
of
fixing
this
problem.
B
Z
B
A
Well,
please
please,
please
proceed.
Z
Okay,
thank
you,
sir.
I
also
live
in
the
country
club
too,
and
my
concern
is
similar
to
mr
daniels.
Z
I'm
also
impacted
by
the
traffic
that's
on
on
burning
tree
road,
which
actually
blocks
my
driveway
two
times
a
day
on
the
weekends,
the
speeding
people
using
the
one
avenue
and
one
avenue
out
which
is
brampton
and
burning
tree.
There's
no
police
enforcement
of
the
law
over
here
whatsoever.
People
are
driving
down
this
road
doing
anywhere
from
30
35
miles
an
hour.
At
a
time
mr
pell
stated
he
was
going
to
do
a
traffic
study
for
us
four
months
ago.
We're
still
waiting
on
that.
Z
I
guess
he's
kind
of
busy,
also
just
the
noise
and
nobody
abiding
to
any
rules
or
any
sign
signage
that
has
been
placed.
I
want
to
know
why
we
can't
have
the
same
signage
as
they
do
in
the
other
portion
of
our
neighborhood.
All
we're
asking
is
for
fair
and
equitable
treatment.
We
pay
the
same
taxes
and
should
be
treated
the
same.
Thank
you.
Q
The
good
news
is
we
made
it
through
last
weekend's
protest
without
anyone
getting
assaulted.
So
that's
great
also.
The
invitation
still
stands
for
each
of
you
to
join
us
at
the
battery
anytime,
this
sunday
from
9
30
to
noon,
to
see
for
yourself
the
hate
and
division.
This
group
causes
with
tourists
and
locals
alike.
Q
That's
basically
all
I
have
to
say
tonight.
Please
look
into
this
and
please
join
us
this
weekend.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
B
AF
AF
Since
we
have
been
asked
to
take
off
the
masses
and
everything
I
wanted
to
know
where
we
are
coming
back,
and
I
miss
you
all
too
and
I'd
like
to
see
all
faces.
AF
So
I'm
trying
to
find
out
when
we
are
going
to
be
coming
back
to
the
regular
meeting.
A
AF
AF
AF
AA
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
members
of
council.
This
is
justin
schweibler
again
with
historic,
charleston
foundation.
On
behalf
of
half
of
hcf,
I
speak
in
support
of
the
renewal
of
the
emergency
ordinance
relaxing
the
off
street
parking
requirements
in
the
central
business
district
along
king
street,
which
is
item
six
on
this
evening's
agenda.
Hcf
believes
this
ordinance
has
already
been
an
important
catalyst
in
attracting
retail
and
commercial
tenants
to
vacant
street-level
spaces
along
king
street
and
was
reported
to
the
central
business
district
improvement
commission
at
their
friday
meeting.
AA
However,
there's
still
need
for
the
ordinance,
as
there
are
a
number
of
vacant
spaces,
yet
to
be
activated.
Renewal
of
the
emergency
ordinance
is
also
important,
as
the
city
evaluates
a
possible
permanent
relaxation
of
parking
requirements,
as
so
many
cities
across
the
country
have
done
respectfully.
Hcf
encourages
you
to
vote
in
favor
of
this
renewal
of
the
ordinance
this
evening.
Thank
you.
AG
Good
evening,
happy
100th
birthday
to
mr
dudley's
mom.
To
start
with,
and
I'd
like
to
ask
you
I'll
please
for
again,
even
though
I
can't
see
a
show
of
hands,
please
how
many
of
you
are
aware
that
the
city
of
charleston
permitted
a
group
to
gather
last
weekend
with
the
express
purpose
of
publicly
breaking
the
law
by
refusing
to
wear
face
masks.
AG
Why
are
you
issuing
permits
to
a
group
that
announces
they
will
break
the
law
if
a
half
a
million
people
weren't
dead,
the
city's
response
to
coven
would
be
laughable.
We
need
to
do
better.
Let's
move
on
to
other
issues.
A
few
days
ago,
eight
people
were
murdered
in
atlanta,
georgia
and
yesterday
ten
were
murdered
in
boulder
colorado.
AG
I
saw
a
news
story
that
facebook
closed
his
account
to
limit
his
reach,
because
sometimes
when
people
see
others
glorifying
these
horrific
actions,
they
become
encouraged
to
do
the
same.
I
repeat:
when
people
see
others
glorifying
these
horrific
actions,
they've
become
encouraged.
To
do
the
same.
I'm
sure
many
of
us
are
reminded
of
june
17th,
2015.
AG
Well,
facebook
at
least
closed
an
account
to
try
to
reduce
the
spread
of
dangerous
hate
here
in
charleston,
where
white
terror
is
the
heritage
that
literally
runs
in
bloodlines
every
single
week
of
the
battery.
The
city
continues
to
turn
a
blind
eye
and
issue
permits
to
a
group
that
already
attacked
a
man
with
a
flagpole
just
so
they
can
continue
waving
their
flag
of
dylan
roof.
AG
Fans
of
this
awful
weekly
display
have
not
only
decided.
It
was
okay
to
lay
their
hands
on
women
on
multiple
occasions,
but
they
regularly
threaten
to
shoot
run
over
and
even
hang
those
who
don't
support
them
and
to
be
clear
threats
against
safety
are
not
one-sided.
There
are
plenty
of
people
who
come
down
speaking
of
doing
harm
to
the
old
waving
their
evil
flags.
AG
G
Hello,
mayor
and
members
of
city
council,
my
name
is
mark
mcdonald,
I'm
speaking
on
two
issues
today.
First,
I
do
want
to
reach
out
and
thank
councilmember
saccharin
for
the
signage
that
was
placed
on
the
front
of
recovery
room.
We
lost
one
of
our
really
good
friends.
Hannah
carpenter
mayor
still
rest
in
peace.
So
again
it
shouldn't
take
tragedies
like
this,
for
you
know
signage
and
things
that
you
know
that
community's
been
asking
for
for
a
long
time
to
happen,
but
we're
glad
that
science
is
in
place.
G
Another
issue
I
want
discussing
is
something
that
I
wasn't
able
to
speak
on
last
month.
But,
however,
the
egregious
attacks
on
by
harry
griffin
on
a
sitting
county
council
council
member
were
discussing
especially
for
black
history
month
and
especially
for
someone
who,
during
his
march
of
the
proud
boys,
tried
to
can
his
march
with
mlk's
march
on
washington,
councilmember
harry
griffin.
G
They
have
the
same
ideals
and
for
you
to
not
only
have
accepted
to
go
with
them,
but
also
saying
that
you
agreed
with
everything
you
said:
you're
complicit
and
what
they
stand
for
and
you're
also
complicit
in
the
the
murders
of
what
of
mlk
what
they
stood
for.
So
please,
as
you
continue
to
campaign
and
do
a
lot
of
feel
good
stuff.
Do
not
speak
on
mlk's
name
because
you
do
not
represent
his
ideals
in
the
immediate
opposite
of
what
he
believed
in
and
count
for
the
city
council.
I
do
want
to
say
this.
G
I
do
want
to
say
this
to
the
city
council.
If
you
have
to
make
a
whole
code
of
conduct
for
somebody's
misconduct,
I
believe
you
realize
that
there's
a
problem
there
and
our
position,
our
position
is
still
up.
If
you
like
sign,
thank
you,
councilmember
saccharin
and
the
council
members
who
have
learned
it.
Thank
you
so
much.
B
And
then
we
did
receive
a
few
comments.
One
person
said
they
opposed
the
confederate
flaggers
who
meet
at
white
point
garden
and
found
it
offensive
that
the
city
was
approving
permits
for
the
group.
One
person
was
concerned
by
the
amount
of
garbage
that
filled
the
entryway
near
the
charleston
arts
center
on
market
street.
B
One
person
would
like
city
council
to
vote
no
to
the
extension
of
the
mass
ordinance
in
the
city.
One
person
said
the
hate
resolution
needed
to
be
amended
and
asked
that
councilman
council
member
brook
and
resign
one
person.
I
believe
this
was
tony
daniel
who
already
spoke
earlier,
said
that
ems
was
blocked
from
reaching
his
home
during
an
emergency
and
asked
council
to
open
frampton
street
fairway
drive
in
harborview
road,
and
those
are
all
the
comments
that
we
received.
A
A
To
approve
council
member
griffin
and
then.
P
Yes,
sir,
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
we
talk
about
how
important
women
are
and
we
at
one
time
I
was
didn't
know
that
we
had
four
women
on
council
at
one
time.
That's
amazing,
I'm
just
wondering
we've
got
two
wonderful
leaders
on
our
city
council
here.
Why
aren't
both
of
them
able
to
serve
on
the
commission
for
women?
A
Consider
that
nomination
tonight,
though,
we
have
these,
ladies,
that
are
listed
for
your
consideration,
any
other
comments
or
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say:
hi.
A
You
guys
have
it.
I
would
like
to
recognize
janet
robertson,
robinson
alterman
who's
been
serving
as
chair
of
the
commission
on
women.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
please
share
any
remarks
that
you
would
like
at
this
time.
AH
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
reappointing
me
and
I'd
first
like
to
welcome
our
new
commission
members,
ms
moore
and
miss
gadsden,
mr
griffin.
We
do
have
a
process
that,
when
we
have
a
vacancy
people
are
encouraged
to
apply
for
those
vacancies
today,
I'm
really
here
to
share
with
you
some
of
the
things
we
we've
been
able
to
do
together,
and
I
mean
that
the
commission
and
city
council
and,
as
you
probably
know,
we're
the
only
municipal
commission
in
south
carolina.
AH
AH
A
A
B
A
Any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
those
you
guys
have
it.
Oh,
I
guess
I
jumped
the
gun
on
the
report.
That
was
third
on
the
agenda.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
next
is
our
stormwater
management
project
highlight.
We
had
resolved
to
come
back
to
you
from
time
to
time
and
rather
than
having
the
long,
lengthy
report
with
a
little
snippet
on
each
of
the
many
projects
that
we
get
a
little
more
focus
on
one
project
at
a
time,
so
matt
fountain
take
it
away.
AI
Thank
you
mayor.
So
this
is
a
share.
My
screen,
this
one
will
be
an
update
on
the
spring
fishburn
project,
which
we
typically
refer
to
as
the
spring
fisherman
project,
but
its
formal
name
is
the
us17
september
clark,
drainage,
improvement
project,
so
hopefully
you're
seeing
that
the
presentation
at
this
point
we
should
show
our
partners
on
the
bottom
left.
AI
Davis
and
floyd
black
veatch
are
obviously
our
professional
services
team
on
the
project.
Well,
enterprises,
jd,
crowder
and
oil
thompson
have
been
our
contractors
on
the
different
phases
of
the
project
to
date,
so
just
briefly,
the
project
origin.
AI
AI
This
includes
the
u.s
17
corridor,
which
obviously
the
flooding
significantly
impacts
the
function
of
that
corridor
that
provides
one
of
the
main
routes
to
medical
district
access
in
the
peninsula
obviously
serves
to
connect
ten
cities
to
the
name.
The
crosstown
search
to
connect
west
ashley
mount
pleasant,
downtown
north
charleston
to
I-26
serves
as
a
hurricane
evacuation
route.
We
see
over
63
000
vehicles
per
day,
traveling
on
that
17
corridor
and
it
experiences
over
250
accidents
per
year,
many
of
which
are
rear-end
collisions
due
to
flood
impacts
and
related
events.
AI
Another
part
of
this
project
that
doesn't
get
talked
about
a
lot
was
was
in
the
early
phases
of
the
project,
which
is
the
reconnection
of
communities
that
was
actually
the
foundation
of
the
tiger
grant.
That
was
a
word
of
the
project
and
some
of
the
dot
involvement.
AI
Obviously,
when
us
17
was
built
and
expanded
through
the
peninsula,
it
separated
existing
communities
and
really
caused
a
lot
of
harm
to
the
area.
So
there
was
also
we
don't
think
about
as
much
on
this
project
as
we
talked
about
flooding
so
much
from
the
stormwater
department,
but
there
was
also
a
conscious
effort
to
kind
of
re-knit
those
communities
through
multi-modal
transportation,
providing
safe
pedestrian
access,
bike
access
and
mass
transit
access
between
those
different
neighborhoods.
AI
So
the
overview,
the
impact
area
we
would
call
it
is
about
500
acres,
the
diagram
on
the
right,
the
upper
right,
the
yellow
boundary,
is
sort
of
an
impact
area.
It's
not
the
exact
drainage
basin.
For
the
project,
it's
areas,
there's
there's
you
can
see
like
some
of
west
edges
included
and
there's
a
function
of
that
that
interacts
with
the
project,
but
it's
areas
that
receive
benefit
or
receive
improvement
in
their
situation
due
to
the
project
with
a
slightly
tighter
corridor
within
the
exact
drainage
basin.
This
is
a
five
five
phase
approach
project.
AI
There's
five
primary
phases,
we'll
talk.
Your
heart
has
sort
of
been
added
on
we'll
talk
about
that
at
the
very
end,
very
recently,
as
a
medical
district
tunnel
extension
was
actually
part
of
the
original
thought
of
the
project
when
it
was
first
conceptualized
but
was
taken
out
due
to
constructability
issues
that
has
been
added
back
in
with
support
for
the
medical
district.
AI
Recently
funding
on
this
project,
not
counting
the
earhart
sections,
is
approximately
197
million
dollars
through
a
combination
of
state
infrastructure,
bank
funding,
the
federal
tiger
grant
seod
contributions
and
city
contributions.
I
think
it's
worth
noting,
because
it
I
know
it's,
I
know
what
I
mean.
Typically,
I'm
talking
about
this
project,
but
I
think
it's
a
it's
always
worth
kind
of
re
resetting
expectations.
It's
a
it's
a
confusing
project.
It's
different
than
a
lot
of
the
other
drainage
work
we
see
in
the
peninsula
outside
of
the
calhoun
east
project.
AI
AI
That's
the
we'll
go
through
some
slides
showing
those,
but
you
see
these
surface
level
improvements,
trees,
landscaping,
but
also
new
surface
drainage
collection
systems.
These
shallow
pipes
that
basically
bring
the
water
to
these
vertical
drop
shafts.
We
call
them
with
vortex
structures
at
the
top.
AI
AI
So
the
the
purpose
for
that,
of
course,
is
that
you
know
charleston
is
very
flat.
So,
when
you're
trying
to
convey
water
from
the
center
of
the
peninsula
out
to
the
edges
of
the
peninsula,
you
really
can't
get
the
water
to
move
very
efficiently.
So
instead
we
take
it
down
into
this
deep
tunnel
system
and
use
a
pump
to
be
able
to
basically
push
the
water
out
or
pull
the
water
out
so
phase
one
was
completed
in
2013.
AI
This
was
a
focused
on
the
neighborhood
reconnection
portion
of
the
project
included
an
intelligent
transportation
system,
installation
basically
putting
in
traffic
control.
I
pulled
pictures
that
one
putting
in
traffic
lights
pedestrian
access.
It
also
included
the
first
parts
of
the
surface
drainage
system,
installation
over
a
mile
of
pipe
was
installed:
175
structures
for
storm
water,
upgrading,
the
water
and
sewer
infrastructure
through
the
corridor,
and
then
you
can
see
in
the
pictures
kind
of
from
the
top
right
to
the
bottom
right.
AI
AI
Two
miles
a
little
bit
more
than
two
miles
of
pipe
installed,
almost
two
miles
of
pipe
cleaned:
300,
more
stormwater
structures
installed
more
streetscaping
and
then
the
first
portion
of
the
deep
tunnel
component,
the
eight
vertical
drop,
shafts
and
vortex
boxes
were
installed
to
basically
be
able
to
bring
that
water
from
the
surface
down
to
what
will
be
the
deep
tunnels
which
is
phase
three
of
the
project.
This
was
completed
last
year,
deep
tunnel
work.
AI
There
are
four
equipment
access
shafts.
That
was
the
we
talked
about
this.
A
lot
was
the
closure
at
the
king
street
off-ramp
from
the
u.s
17
was
actually
where
we
were
installing
one
of
those
you
see
one
on
harmon
field.
If
you
go
out
to
herman
field,
it's
now
been
primarily
restored,
as
well
as
to
other
locations
the
this
would.
This
is
where
we
lowered
like
tunnel
boring
machine
and
equipment
equipment
down
into
the
tunnels,
to
be
able
to
actually
dig
out
and
create
this.
This
tunnel
approach.
AI
We
did
install
8,
200
feet
of
8
foot,
diameter
and
12
foot
diameter
tunnels.
So
these
are
really
large
tunnels.
Think
two
people
standing
on
top
of
each
other
in
the
primary
tunnels,
another
800
feet
of
six
foot
diameter
tunnels,
which
would
be
called
edits
in
a
mining
parlance,
basically
smaller
tunnels
that
serve
into
those
drop
shafts
and
connect
a
larger
drainage
base
into
the
major
project.
AI
We
also
performed
environmental
mitigation
as
part
of
our
phase.
Three
work
for
for
disturbance,
we'd
be
doing
in
phase
four
phase.
Four
is
our
our
current
project
phase?
So
what
you
see
between
the
the
bridges
heading
out
towards
west
ashley,
we'll
be
installing
three
eight
foot
by
ten
foot
box
culverts.
So
you
can.
You
can
imagine
how
big
that
set
of
piping
is
going
out
into
the
into
the
marsh.
AI
In
fact,
you
don't
have
to
imagine
it
because
you
can
actually
see
it
in
the
existing
excavation
pathway
out
there,
we'll
also
be
putting
in
the
pump
station.
Wetwell
is
basically
a
really
large,
concrete
box
that
holds
a
lot
of
water
to
allow
the
pumps
to
cycle
enough
for
the
pumps
to
cool
down
between
start
and
stop
cycles
so
that
they
can.
AI
They
can
work
in
a
variety
of
different
sized
rainstorms
and
this
this
phase,
also,
interestingly,
that
completion
of
phase
four
before
the
pumps
go
in
we'll
still
see
in
general
about
a
500
percent
increase
in
the
amount
of
water
we're
able
to
convey
out
of
the
corridor
even
before
the
pumps
go
in
just
from
that
gravity
flow
that
does
vary
depending
on
tide
and
the
king
tide,
we'll
see
more.
Like
200
percent
increase
in
a
low
tide,
we
might
see
more
like
six
or
seven
hundred
percent
increase.
AI
So
it's
it's
still
a
substantial
improvement
just
to
run
through
a
little
bit
of
the
construction.
I
don't
want
to
take
too
much
time,
but
it's
it's
pretty
interesting
projects.
This
is
what
we
looked
like
when
we
started
phase
four
phase:
three
basically
had
that's
the
access
shaft
they're,
seeing
between
the
bridges
where
we
lower
equipment
down
into
the
deep
tunnels.
AI
First
step
was
kind
of
installing
this
trestle
out
into
the
the
marshes.
It
is
not
the
first
component
of
the
west
ashley
bikebridge
project,
which
is
my
most
commonly
asked
question
from
friends
and
family
members.
If
that's
what
I'm
building
here,
but
it
is,
it
is
a
about
a
million
pounds
of
steel,
supporting
the
cranes
that
go
in
to
install
the
the
project
work.
Here
you
can
see
the
coffer
dams.
AI
All
the
piling
we
put
in
with
a
concrete
shell
it'll
be
starting
soon
on
the
actual
construction
of
the
cast
in
place,
outfall
culverts
as
well,
so
the
next
phase
will
be
phase
five.
This
is
expected
to
complete
very
late
2023
early
2024..
This
is
the
pump
station
component
of
the
project.
Obviously,
here
is
is
a
our
architect's
rendering
of
what
the
pump
station
will
look
like,
rather
than
an
in-construction
photo
as
the
rest
of
them
were.
We
have.
We
have
not
built
it
since
last
week.
This
is
where
we'll
be
housing.
AI
Three
120
000
gallon
per
minute
pumps
that
will
provide
an
over
a
thousand
percent
increase.
What
we
see
in
today's
flow
so
that
that
will
take
us
to
a
storm
of
a
major
design
scale,
storm
event
with
functionality
even
in
high
tide
conditions,
medical
district,
the
tunnel
extension,
the
airheart
project.
This
has
been
added
in
as
well
or
added
back
into
the
project.
We'd
also
expect
this
to
complete
in
2024.
AI
This
one
is
design
and
permit
ready
we're
just
finalizing
easements,
which
we
had
at
council
tonight
with
musc
and
then
we'll
be
accepting
the
recently
announced
award
of
the
hud
cdbg
mit
funding
of
10
million
dollars
from
the
federal
source
through
the
through
the
state,
and
that
will
help
that
will
basically
allow
us
to
provide
drainage
in
the
27
acres
of
the
earhart
basin,
which
is
basin
two
in
this
upper
right
corner.
It's
sort
of
the
easternmost
basin.
AI
There
and
the
medical
district
side,
the
bottom
picture
kind
of
shows
the
flooding
in
a
one-year
storm
event
that
that
basin
experiences.
So
very
it's
a
very
flood-prone
area.
It's
the
service
route
for
many
of
the
emergency
rooms
in
the
area,
so
it's
kind
of
a
nice
critical
corridor
to
be
able
to
meet
with
this
project
with
a
very
quick
implementation
date.
AI
So
I
do
want
to
note
our
website
and
I'm
actually
going
to
stop
sharing
this
and
jump
to
the
website
very
quickly,
because
the
well
I
tried
to
give
you
a
quick
presentation.
We
actually
have
a
really
nice
updated
website
that
we
put
together
for
spring
fishburn
in
case
you're,
trying
to
remember
everything
I
said
without
without
my
presentation
to
run
through.
AI
So
this
is
this:
is
the
site
if
you
go
to
www.springfishburndrainage.com
you'll,
actually
see
this
come
up
as
a
animation
that
kind
of
shows
some
traffic
moving
and
things,
but
really,
as
you
jump
down
here,
this
is
where
the
core
of
the
project
is
this.
AI
This
shows
the
the
project
area
on
the
right
is
a
map
with
basically
a
rendering
of
what
the
project
will
look
like,
and
this
is
kind
of
showing
all
phases-
and
it
kind
of
has
a
description
of
what
we're
talking
about
here,
but
you
can
actually
nicely
go
through
the
phases
and
see
what
happened
in
phase
one,
and
you
know
phase
one
was
from
2009
to
2012
and
installed
streetscaping
and
it
kind
of
gives
you
a
nice
little
summary
and
shows
location-wise
where
that
was
on
the
map.
AI
AI
Obviously
the
wet
wall
now
being
constructed
out
between
the
bridges
and
then
with
phase
five
building
in
the
pump
station
on
top
of
it
and
then,
as
you
as
you
scroll
down,
you
can
kind
of
see
some
interesting
facts
about
the
project:
lots
of
just
kind
of
interesting,
interesting
information,
how
much?
How
much
pump
volume
we
remove
and
get
down
into
images,
and
this
is
regularly
updated.
You
can
also
sign
up
at
the
top
to
stay
connected
at
the
project
and
get
email
updates
about
progress
on
the
project
if
you're
interested
so
we're.
AI
This
is
kind
of
where
we're
moving
to
as
a
department
for
project
updates
and
website
information
trying
to
provide
more
story
maps
more
information,
easier,
easier
to
understand
documents
are
a
little
more
useful
for
the
for
the
general
public.
So
I
appreciate
your
time
and
if
anyone
has
any
questions,
I'm
happy
to
address.
J
Sir
well,
even
though
on
the
website,
it
was
one
of
the
earlier
points
that
you
had
in
it.
It
showed
the
the
illustration
of
the
the
pipe
the
tunnel
going
towards
the
the
shot
right
there.
That's
that
one
right
there
yeah,
I'm
just.
AI
AI
J
There
we
go
all
right
this
one,
so
I
noticed
that
the
the
the
tunnel
is
lower
than
the
pump
station
and
we
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
pre-pump
station
this
water
flowing
out,
so
the
water
level
is,
is
lower
here
and
then
the
pump
station
is
higher
up.
How
is
that
water
exiting
out
of
the
this
tunnel
before
the
pop
is
is
functional.
AI
Yeah
so
again
in
engineering
terms,
we'd
call
this
like
a
hydraulic
grade
line
or
a
head
pressure
situation,
but
you're
right.
So
what
happens?
Is
the
the
water
pressure
is
not
from
the
tunnel?
The
tunnel
is
at
depth
because
we're
trying
to
stay
out
of
the
way
of
building
foundations
and
be
deep
enough
down
in
the
moral
that
we're
not
impacting
anyone's
ability
to
pile
foundation,
their
their
buildings
or
have
other
basically
other
impacts
like
that.
But
what
happens?
Is
these
these
vertical
drop
shafts?
AI
So
the
pressure,
the
water
pressure,
the
column
of
water
pressure,
is
equal
to
the
height
of
the
water
in
kind
of
the
highest
place.
Right,
water
will
push
its
way
flat,
so
the
water
in
the
tunnel
will
not
drain
out
on
its
own.
Obviously,
without
pumps
kicking
on,
but
the
water
on
the
surface
is
at
a
higher
level
than
the
outfall.
So
it
will
push.
Basically,
the
water
pressure
pushes
that
water
down
through
the
tunnel
and
out
so.
AI
A
flushing
system
kind
of
it's
like
if
you,
if
you
had
a
hose
right
and
you
you
hold
up
two
ends
of
the
hose,
and
it
makes
a
u
at
the
bottom
and
you
lift
up
one
side
of
the
hose.
The
water
will
come
pouring
out
of
the
other
side
of
the
hose,
because
water
will
always
seek
a
flat
level.
AI
AI
This
is
one
of
the
most
complicated
things
to
describe
is:
is
this
idea
of
hydraulic
grade
line
of
facing?
How
does
how
does
the
weight
of
water
move
water
around.
J
But
we
were
getting
the
benefit
of
the
the
tunnel
system
into
leaving
the
flooding,
and
I
think
that's
shown
already.
I
mean
we've
seen
some
of
this
benefit
already,
but
it
was
just
interesting
to
me
the
different
levels
of
the
pump
station
versus
the
temple.
So
your
explanation
is
is
helpful.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
AI
A
Terrific
council,
member
sacrament.
T
Thank
you,
mayor
matt.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
website
is
awesome.
T
I
think
it's
it's
something
that
I
think
all
of
our
departments
should
think
about
it's
very
easy
to
to
see,
and
I
can
just
tell
it's
really
well
laid
out
so
thanks
for
for
doing
that,
and
the
second
question
which
I
get
a
lot
about,
this
project
is,
if
you
could
describe
in
kind
of
like
broad
terms,
you
know
what
parts
of
the
peninsula
are
going
to
benefit
from
from
this,
I
get
questions
like
you
know
up
in
hampton
park.
AI
Yeah,
absolutely
so
that
that
one
the
website
is,
is
great
for,
for
that,
I'm
going
to
jump
back
really
quick
to
the
website,
because
on
the
website
you
can
see
the
drop
shaft
locations
that
come
in.
So
those
are
going
to
be
your
your
major
kind
of
your
major
impact
points.
That's
where
we
tie
the
surface
drainage
in
so
you're,
going
to
see
the
most
impact
kind
of
running
north
south
here
on
president
street.
This
is
the
president's
street
tunnel.
AI
Up
to
fishburn,
then
you're
going
to
see
major
impact
on
the
17
corridor.
We're
also
tying
in
all
the
surface.
Drainage
you'll
see
improvement
through
this
whole
orange
coated
area
here,
and
this
is-
and
this
is
hampton
park
here-
so
basically
coming
all
the
way
up
to
hampton
park
here
all
the
way
over
to
so
this
is
where
17
and
26
come
in.
AI
King
street
is
basically
this
this
section
here
so
you're
going
to
see
pretty
significant
improvement
all
along
the
corridor
from
king
street.
You
know
almost
as
high
as
hampton
park
here
over
and
down
the
area
that
doesn't
show
on
this
map
is
some
of
the
the
west
edge,
because
it's
not
directly
served
by
the
project.
It's
an
interesting
combination
there
with
what
the
west
edge
drainage
improvements
are
doing
and
what
the
tunnel
improvements
are
doing.
So
you'll
see
improvement
in
this
whole
area.
AI
It's
just
a
component
of
two
different
projects,
working
together,
drainage-wise
and
then
you'll
see
some
southern
additions
here,
as
you
come
down,
come
down
president,
basically
to
the
the
bottom
side
of
septum
clark
and
some
of
the
worst
flooded
areas
basically
are
kind
of
this.
This
core
corridor
here
which
why
you
see
so
many
drainage,
inlets,
and
then
we
have
extended
down
with
erhart,
to
go
actually
below
b
street
here
a
little
bit
into
the
earhart
basin
as
well,
which
is
not
shown
on
this
on
this
one.
AI
Obviously
it
wasn't
part
of
the
original
project
layout,
so
is
that
is
that
helpful?
Councilman?
It's
it's
a
big
area,
so
it's
sometimes
hard
to
describe
very
quickly.
But
it's
it's!
It's
a
pretty
substantial.
It's
a
pretty
substantial
drainage
basin.
A
And
that
map
doesn't
indicate
the
the
little
area
that
will
be
added
when
west
edge
does
their
connection
to
the
shaft,
correct
and
also
to
the
hospital
district.
But
it
seems
to
me
the
biggest
benefit
to
our
citizens
everywhere.
If
you
think
about
63
000
cars
a
day
that
traverse
the
septum
of
clark
parkway,
just
the
mobility
factor
for
for
everybody
to
get
around
will
be
a
huge
benefit.
AI
Yeah,
I
I
that's
that's
a
very
good
point
mayor.
I
think
the
the
traffic
impacts
along
september
clark
will
be
incredibly
important,
and
then
I
mean
honestly,
the
president
street
corridor
is
one
of
those
corridors
that
we
constantly
have
to
tell
people.
We
can't
do
much
for
you
from
a
flooding
perspective
because
you're
in
a
in
a
bowl
and
that's
all
way.
That's
many
of
these
kind
of
little
side
streets
that
come
off
here
are
some
of
the
worst
impacted
flooding
areas
in
the
city.
H
I
just
want
to
point
out
the
talent
and
skill
sets
that
our
storm
water
department
team
has.
I
mean
I
mean
this-
is
a
project
that
will
span
the
better
part
of
a
decade,
and
I
mean
this
is
so
interesting.
We
can
do
like
disney
and
live
stream.
This
thing,
but
anyway,
after
a
while
we'll
charge
admission
to
be
a
member
of
the
public
works
committee,.
AE
I
just
wanted
to
continue
jason's
first
point,
which
was
like
little
marketer
tear
comes
to
my
eye
at
the
beauty
of
this
website,
and
this
is
exactly
what
we
want.
What
our
citizens
want.
It's
easy!
It's
simple!
AE
Everybody
knows
what's
going
on,
it's
updated
in
real
time,
and
I
cannot
encourage
more
of
this
across
departments
throughout
the
city
to
happen.
I
think
it
makes
everyone's
lives
easier.
Most
importantly,
it
makes
those
people
we
represent.
It
makes
their
lives
easier
to
know
what's
going
on
and
to
get
a
lot
of
their
questions
answered
instead
of
not
knowing
who
to
call
and
what
to
do
and-
and
they
just
get
frustrated.
AE
J
Member
shade
just
a
quick
comment
mayor:
we
we
had
a
tour
of
the
of
this
tunnel
about
maybe
two
years
or
so
ago.
So
matt
is
that
available
for
us
as
a
group
to
go
down
into
this
existing
work.
Is
that
feasible.
AI
So
councilman
we
can
certainly
take
you
to
the
outfall.
That's
currently
be
constructed,
wet
well
in
the
outfall
I'm
going
down
into
the
tunnels.
We
don't
have
any
contractors
working
in
the
tunnels
at
this
point,
it's
a
it's
a
pretty
substantial
lift.
They
have
to
bring
in
kind
of
cranes
and
ventilation
systems
and
safety
crews
to
get
into
the
tunnels,
but
the
the
wet
well
outfall
is
certainly
something
that's.
AI
A
look
at
yes,
that's
a
great
idea.
We
can
certainly
take
you
out
there
and
show
you
around
that
you
may
or
may
not
want
to
climb
down
into
the
concrete
work.
I
think
it's
like
60
feet
of
ladder
climbing
at
this
point
in
time
to
to
get
down
into
the
the
system,
but
we
can
certainly
do
a
top-down
view
for
the
the
project.
J
I'll
follow
councilmember
mitchell
and
do
that.
But
but
it
is
those
of
us
who
had
the
opportunity
to
go
into
the
tunnels
and
if
we
have
an
opportunity
to
go
into
this
pump
station
construction
area
gives
you
a
feel
of
the
magnificence
of
this.
This
project
and
as
councilmember
warren
was
alluding
to
the
talent
and
the
sheer
engineering
feat
that
this
is
accomplishing
and
so.
AI
Absolutely
it's
very
hard
to
get
a
good
grasp
of
the
scale
of
project
from
the
pictures.
It
is
it's
very
large
that
that
hole
in
the
ground
that
the
wet
well
is
is
about
45,
000,
tons
of
material
that
was
removed
to
to
create
that.
So
it's
I
think,
you're
right.
That's
it's
very
helpful
to
see
it
in
person.
A
I
still
am
so
thankful
to
governor
mcmaster
for
coming
through
on
his
commitment
to
help
us
with
this
project.
I
mentioned
that
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
when
we
first
announced
it,
but
he
he
really
followed
this
all
the
way
through
it
didn't
work
out
with
his
regular
general
fund
budget
last
year
because
of
covet,
but
he
didn't
forget
and
he
brought
it
back
as
with
approval
of
our
grant
application
to
to
the
mitigation
funds
that
he
had
available.
So
thank
you,
governor
mcmaster,
one
more
time,
all
right.
A
So,
let's
move
on.
Thank
you,
matt
for
that
presentation,
excellent,
our
update
on
the
city's
response
to
covid19
shannon's
scaff
and
his
incident
team
have
been
doing
a
great
job
in
helping,
despite
the
lack
of
doses
out
there,
of
doing
everything
we
can
to
facilitate
vaccinations
and
vaccination
locations
and
tracy
has
some
news
for
us
also
about
our
latest
statistics.
AJ
Thank
you
mayor,
good
evening.
Everybody
brief
update
for
you
tonight.
So
after
being
able
to
report,
you
know
steady
decline
in
cases
over
the
past
couple
of
months.
We
are
unfortunately
beginning
to
see
an
increase
in
the
trend
in
new
cases.
AJ
So,
although
our
total
numbers
still
are
are
moderately
low,
the
recent
the
recent
uptick
in
cases
has
really
put
has
put
two
of
our
indicators
kind
of
in
that
red
zone
and
additionally,
the
the
number
of
new
cases
per
thousand
residents
you
can
see
is
approaching
that
yellow
zone
and
that
indicator
is
what
we
believe
to
be
manageable
by
our
medical
community
for
hospitalizations,
as
well
as
contact
tracing.
AJ
That's,
so
that's
something
that
we
want
to
really
keep
a
close
eye
on
and
looking
at
hospitalizations,
because
that
really
is
really
an
important
factor
to
consider.
You
can
see
that
the
hospitalizations
for
coven
19
patients
has
has
been
stable,
so
we
haven't
seen
an
uptick
in
that,
but
we
do
know
that
that
has
a
slight
delay.
So
this
is
definitely
something
we
want
to.
We
want
to
keep
our
eye
on
over
the
coming
weeks.
AJ
Vaccine
distribution,
you
can
see
that
we're
getting
some
increases
in
pfizer,
moderate
increases
a
kind
of
week
by
week.
Moderna
is
kind
of
holding
at
the
same
level
and
then
we're
starting
to
see
just
trickles
of
the
jansen
or
the
j
and
j
actually
coming
into
this
state.
I
think
we
saw
about
120
120
000
doses
come
into
the
state
this
week.
AJ
So
that's
very,
very
encouraging.
I
know
that
you
all
are
interested
in
the
demographics,
so
just
a
little
tidbit
about
that.
AJ
We
are
seeing
some
an
increase
in
the
percentage
of
black
citizens
taking
the
vaccine,
so
that's
slowly,
increasing,
which
is
really
great
to
see
as
far
as
hispanic
and
latinos
that's
still
very
lagging.
It's
only
1.6
of
that
population
that
is
getting
vaccinated
compared
to
six
percent
of
the
population
in
the
state
is
actually
hispanic
and
or
latino.
AJ
So
so
that's
that's
something
that
is
is
an
area
of
concern.
If
you
will
and
then
the
gender
gap
is
actually
starting
to
close,
though
on
vaccinations.
So
there's
some
there's
some
good
things
happening,
but
we
still
have
a
little
ways
to
go.
AJ
AJ
So
the
good
thing
is
is
that
over
80
percent
actually
felt
like
they
were
going
to
get
the
vaccine
once
they
once
they
once
they
were
eligible.
So
that's
really
really
encouraging.
I
think
the
place
that
has
some
opportunity
from
from
their
report
is
you
can
see.
AJ
That
second
question
is:
I'm
confident
that
the
covid19
vaccine
is
safe
and
so
less
than
30
percent
strongly
agreed
with
that,
and
so
I
think
that
there's
some
work
to
do
there
to
to
really
let
people
know
and
to
educate
people
that
the
vaccine
is
safe,
so
that
people
are
are
comfortable
taking
that
vaccine,
and
I
do
that's
all
I
really
have
for
you
tonight.
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
shannon
to
talk
about
the
great
work
that
he
and
his
team
are
doing
around
vaccinations,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
AK
Thanks
tracy
good
evening,
mr
mayor
and
members
of
council,
a
lot
of
work
being
done
for
vaccinations,
we're
definitely
pushing
them
through
the
city.
Here
you'll
recall
we
had
teamed
up
with
harris
teeter
and
the
gail
yard
center
harris
teeters
administered
second
doses
at
the
garrett
center
last
week.
The
event
was
a
success.
All
vaccines
on
hand
were
administered
and
between
pfizer
and
moderna.
Over
3
500
vaccines
were
administered
out
of
that
effort.
AK
Musc
opened
up
the
location
where
the
old
dmv
was
at
180
lockwood
on
march
15th.
The
hours
of
operation
for
that
monday
through
saturday
8
a.m
to
5
p.m,
and
those
hours
of
operation
will
fluctuate
with
vaccine
availability
right
now,
as
I
understand
it,
there
is
availability
and
they've
opened
that
up
to
the
public
in
terms
of
being
able
to
make
appointments,
federal
healthcare
will
be
operating.
A
vaccine
clinic
out
of
the
arthur
christopher
community
center,
beginning
tomorrow,
from
9
00
a.m,
to
2
p.m.
AK
Johnson
and
johnson
vaccines
will
be
administered
there.
No
appointments
will
be
scheduled
for
those
federal
healthcare's
vaccine
models,
first-come
first-served
for
that
vaccines
will
be
administered
for
five
hours
tomorrow.
Better
said
they
have
enough
vaccines
to
administer
during
that
entire
five-hour
period
and
they'll
go
as
long
as
time
allows
for
them
to
this
week.
Emergency
management
contacted
10
congregations
within
the
city
of
charleston,
with
large
parking
areas
about
the
potential
for
hosting
vaccinations
sites.
AK
I
had
a
conversation
with
one
of
my
dhec
leads
in
the
area
this
weekend
on
sunday
and
working
with
him
directly
to
connect
providers
to
area
clergy,
so
that's
kind
of
our
next
effort.
Now
that
we've
got
180
lockwood
up
and
running
and
they're
doing
very
well
several
hundred
a
day
as
I
understand
it
are
being
administered,
so
we're
definitely
pushing
vaccines
throughout
the
city,
which
is
great
news.
Happy
to
take
your
questions.
I
I
AJ
P
P
J
Yes,
mr
mayor
now,
shannon
and
tracy
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
I
got
my
vaccination
that
my
second
shot
was
last
thursday
at
the
gill
yard
and
the
the
level
of
efficiency
and
level
of
care.
Too.
I
mean
the
folks
were
not
just
running
us
in
and
out
as
seattle,
they
were
very
patient
with
the
folks
who
were
there.
They
were
very
compassionate
with
the
folks
who
were
there
and
it
was
just
a
smooth
operation
and
a
pleasant
experience.
J
So
all
those
who
were
involved
in
the
management
of
that
and
the
organization
that
needs
to
tip
your
hat
for
the
work
that
y'all
did
with
all
of
that.
So
thank
you.
I
had
a
small
little
reaction
to
the
second
shot.
It
was
just
more
of
an
upset
stomach
than
anything
else,
but
felt
great,
and
hopefully
we
can
continue
that
kind
of
work
I
did
hear
there
was
some
concern
with
the
municipal
court
kicking
back
into
gear
and
some
maybe
some
parking
issues
or
traffic
issues
being
at
the
old
dmv.
AK
Yes,
sir,
we
did
have
some
initial
concerns
with
it.
I
believe
that's
been
worked
through
now.
You
know
it's
it's
a
day-to-day
thing
and
some
of
that's
weather
dependent
as
well,
but
it's
sort
of
a
moving
target,
but
our
logistics
folks,
chelsea
taylor,
out
of
the
police
department,
has
done
a
phenomenal
job
using
some
of
our
resources
organically
within
the
city.
To
help
make
that
happen,
I
feel
like
we're
in
a
good
place
with
that,
sir,
and
appreciate
your
comment
about
that.
AK
You
know
a
shout
out
to
the
rotary
club
for
their
help
with
it
obviously
gilliard
center
and
the
management
staff
there
has
done
a
phenomenal
job.
Mr
mike
tito,
and
daniel
flecis
in
emergency
management
did
a
lot
of
work
with
that,
and
obviously
the
harris
teeter
folks
who
came
in
from
raleigh
north
carolina
to
help
did
a
phenomenal
job
and
glad
we
got
you
in
there.
Yep.
E
Man
councilman,
I
had
my
second
injection,
also
at
the
gill
yard
and
didn't
have
no
problem,
didn't
have
any
symptoms,
nothing
because
when
I
spoke
with
them
they
said
mr
mitchell.
Taking
me
a
minute.
I
said
I'm
not
on
any
medication.
I
don't
take
medication
at
all.
I
don't.
I
have
never
been
on
any
medication,
and
so
he
said
well,
you
might
be
all
right,
so
I
didn't
have
any
reaction.
E
A
Awesome
so
I
had
my
second
shot
as
well
friday,
I'm
a
member
of
the
herd,
the
herd
immunity.
I
I
do
want
to
share
that,
even
though
something
like
a
million
doses
have
now
been
distributed
in
south
carolina,
there
are
millions
more
that
will
need
to
be
distributed.
A
The
doses
are
just
really
coming
forward
now
and
will
be
over
the
next
couple
of
months,
so
we
can
still
see
the
clearing
ahead,
but
we
we're
not
all
clear
yet,
as
tracy
reported
some
of
our
case
numbers
locally
or
are
creeping
back
up
and
so
y'all.
We
got
to
stick
with
this
for
for
a
little
bit
longer
and
keep
preaching
the
message
asking
everybody
when
they
can
to
get
vaccinated
and,
as
you've
heard,
we're
doing
everything
we
can
staff
and
working
with
our
health
care
partners
to
make
sure
that
availability
is
there.
A
Thank
you
for
that,
shannon
and
team,
and
and
tracy
as
well
all
right.
So
next
we
do
have
a
renewal
of
one
emergency
ordinance.
It's
been
mentioned
earlier
this
evening,
susan.
You
want
to
explain
that
to
us
or
chip.
A
AL
Great
okay
and
chip-
you
just
if
I
describe
it
accurately,
but
this
is
an
extension
of
an
emergency
ordinance
that
we've
previously
that
council
previously
passed.
It's
part
of
a
recovery
effort
in
the
city
creates
a
special
parking
district
which
allows
the
suspension
of
austria
car
parking
requirements.
AL
S
This
is
more
of
a
recovery.
It's
an
emergency
ordinance
to
help
economic
recovery,
not
something
to
deal
directly
with
tobin.
So
I
don't
for
those
of
you
who
are
concerned.
I
don't
think
it's
inconsistent
if
you
disagree
with
extending
emergency
ordinances
related
directly
to
covid,
to
agree
with
an
emergency
ordinance
related
to
economic
recovery
from
covid.
If,
if
you
would
like
to
take
that
position,
but
that
I've
tried
to.
A
Draft
so
any
questions
or
discussion
can
we
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
council
members.
AC
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
who
had
a
hand
in
this
again
council
member
del
chapo
council,
member
seeking
the
central
business
district,
historic
groups,
low
country,
looking
first
charleston
moves,
I'm
probably
missing
out
on
others,
but
this
was
a
real
good
collaborative
effort
and
it's
working
well
and
I
got
to
say
I
got
to
give
a
shout
out.
The
city
of
charleston
was
featured
in
a
national
publication
wired
magazine.
They
highlighted
this
ordinance
as
a
an
example
of
a
city
leading
the
way
on
innovative
mobility
related.
AC
You
know,
regulations
coming
out
of
covid
and
I'm
so
excited
to
hear
that
it's
already
caused.
I
believe
three
businesses
to
to
get
permitted.
Those
are
gonna,
be
three
vacancies
that
we've
turned
around
and
I
think
with
another
60
days
as
as
the
coveted
recovery
and
vaccinations
come
out.
AC
Who
knows
what
we
can
get
from
this,
but
I
do
think
that
moving
forward,
we
need
to
keep
our
eye
on
making
this
permanent
and
also
responsibly
extending
the
geographical
boundaries
of
this
of
this
on
the
city
and
we're
going
to
do
that
in
a
deliberative
way.
We're
going
to
talk
to
all
the
council
people
whose
districts
are
implicated,
the
neighborhood
groups,
but
this
is
a
great
test
program.
It's
worked,
the
sky
is
not
falling.
You
know.
AC
Cats
are
not
sleeping
with
dogs,
you
know
it's
it's
okay,
we
can
let
businesses
open
without
this
red
tape,
and
we
can
allow
charleston
to
really
be
well
poised
for
a
very
strong
economic
recovery
coming
out
of
covet,
because
people
are
coming
here,
they're
leaving
up
north
they're
leaving
out
west,
let's
let
them
bring
their
businesses
with
them
and
let's
put
this
city
on
rocket
fuel
thanks.
A
Councilmember
jackson.
X
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
I
I
really
appreciate
that
the
differential
that
mr
mcqueeny
was
able
to
educate
us
about,
I
I
do
feel
like
this
ordinance
deserves
to
stand
on
its
own
as
a
as
a
rescue
for
an
economic
deficiency
emergency,
but
I
also
support
my
colleague,
councilmember
appel,
who
basically
you
know,
began
the
drum
beat
that
I
now
think
is
very
strong
for
why
we
should
be
making
a
district
like
this
permanent
on
our
zoning
code
books.
X
I
I
know
you
all
are
tired
of
me
talking
about
where
I
came
from,
but
my
little
community
in
northern
virginia
suffered
the
same
types
of
growing
pains
between
two
large
expanding
metro
area,
counties
of
northern
virginia
and
they
tried
their
hardest
to
make
parking
as
as
onerous
as
possible
and
basically
dried
up
their
own
business
district
in
the
process.
X
So
it
really
is,
you
know,
maybe
it's
counterintuitive,
but
it
definitely
is
not
the
the
onerous
burden
to
residential
neighborhoods
that
are
literally
on
the
back
side
of
a
commercial
block.
I've
seen
it
work
and
I've
seen
it
you
know.
Well,
of
course,
we
we
don't
want
an
extra
parking
burden
on
our
commercial
district,
that
everybody
loves
to
walk
to
and
be
part
of.
So
I
think
that's
the
prize
that
we
should
keep
our
eyes
on
and
anything
that
I
can
do
to.
X
A
So
next
up
is
our
discussion
regarding
federal
stimulus
and
relief
in
its
relation
to
the
city
budget
and
council
member
griffin.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
forward
and
it
just
passed.
I
think
at
the
time
of
our
last
meeting-
and
I
I
assure
you
at
the
right
time
and
after
our
presentation
tonight,
if,
if
council
decides
to
take
some
action
on
this
matter,
it's
certainly
fine.
A
I
certainly
felt
like
it
was
a
work
in
progress
that
we
didn't
have
all
the
information
and
we'll
get
a
report
for
you
right
now
from
amy
wharton
and
susan
herdina
about
what
we
know
about
the
stimulus
package
and
what's
allowed
and
what's
not
it's
kind
of
like
a
grant,
so
some
expenses
are
allowed
and
some
aren't
so
I
I
want
to,
though,
assure
you,
council,
member
griffin,
on
my
part
that-
and
I
was
one
of
the
council
members
who
voted
in
favor
of
this
year's
challenging
budget.
A
I
think
it
was
communicated
by
most
of
the
council
members
who
voted
in
favor
of
this
year's
budget,
that
if
we
have
the
opportunity
to
defray
those
two
mills
that
were
a
part
of
this
year's
budget,
that
we
would
utilize
any
available
funding
to
to
defray
those
two
mills.
And
that's
still
our
intention.
A
I
just
feel
like
we
need
to
make
sure
that
it's
an
allowable
expense
by
the
federal
law.
So
with
that
being
said,
I'd
like
to
call
amy
to
give
us
update
on
what
we
know
about
the
stimulus
bill
and
and
the
facts
thereof.
Amy.
H
Mr
mayor,
I'm
gonna
say
a
point
of
order
on
this
one.
I,
as
I
understood,
councilman
griffin,
he
had
a
his.
He
didn't
ask
for
a
discussion.
He
asked
for
a
motion
to
be
put
on
the
floor
now.
One
thing
you
said
in
the
in
the
last
meeting,
which
I
think
we
all
agree
with
I
know
I
do-
is
that
we
were
going
to
have
meetings
with
the
budget
ad
hoc
committee,
which
I
would
hope
we
would
get
once
all
the
information
comes
in
from
the
feds.
H
We
could
have
all
that
roll
up
your
sleeve.
We
have
to
go
back
to
work
to
see
how
all
of
this
works,
as
I
understand
all
that
information
and
then
from
the
feds
yet,
and
just
for
the
sake
of
time,
we
already
almost
three
hours
into
this
meeting
and
still
have
a
you
know,
executive
session
to
go.
Could
we
dispense?
Maybe
that
presentation
until
the
ad
hoc
committee
has
a
chance
to
really
vet
this
thing
out.
H
I
mean
you,
you
made
mention
about
the
ad
hoc
committee
needing
to
work
on
this
last
meeting
and
I
think
you're
100
right
on
that.
As
I
said,
I
agree
with
that,
but
instead
of
going
through
discussions
having
the
ad
hoc
committee
meetings
vetting
out
the
facts
of
this
and
then
obviously
bringing
it
back
to
council
again,
I
would
hope
that
we
could
defray
the
discussion
and
kind
of
move
through
this
meeting
tonight,
because
I
know
the
ad
hoc
committee-
I
we
all
know
you've.
H
That
was
a
good
process.
You
and
I
think
councilman
cheyenne
came
up
with
ad
hoc
budget
committee
years
ago
and
has
proven
to
be
very
effective,
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
to
work
on
that
with
this
stimulus
piece
but
to
have
a
discussion
and
we
know
we're
going
to
have
to
have
further
discussion.
I
would
hope
that
we
could
defer
that
discussion
for
the
ad
hoc
committee
meeting
and
maybe
get
through
this
meeting
tonight.
A
Well,
I
will
say
in
a
nutshell,
that
we
are
awaiting
federal
guidance
from
the
treasury
department
on
the
details
of
what's
allowable
under
this
bill.
There's
questions
about
it.
Our
own
attorney
general
wilson
has
questioned
what's
allowable,
as
have
other
attorney
generals
around
the
country,
so
we
we
feel
like
we
must
resolve
those
issues
and
amy
and
susan
are
prepared
to
explain
all
of
that
in
detail
and
what
what
what
what
we
know
now
and
what
we're
kind
of
waiting
to
figure
out
so
councilmember
griffin.
This
was
requested
on
by
you.
A
So
I'll
I'll
put
it
back
to
you,
council
member.
If
you'd
like
to
proceed
with
this
information,
we
we
can
vote
on
something
tonight,
but,
and
maybe
it's
fine
to
present
it
after
you
make
a
motion
but
we're
prepared
to
share
everything.
We
know.
P
Yeah,
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
when
a
council
member
asks
for
something
to
be
put
on
the
agenda
to
be
voted
on
theoretically
and
in
actuality.
It
could
be
put
on
the
agenda
for
a
vote.
You
know
I
mean
that's
parliamentary
procedure
and
robert's
rules
of
war.
I
asked
for
something
to
be
put
on
there.
It
could
have
been
put
on
there,
just
as
I
asked
it
to
be
put
on
there,
but
it
wasn't-
and
I
don't
know
who
made
that
decision.
Maybe
it
was
you,
sir.
P
Maybe
you
have
a
better
way
to
do
it,
but
I
wanted
it
put
on
there
for
an
up
or
down
vote.
I
didn't
ask
for
it
to
be
put
on
for
a
presentation
or
anything
like
that.
That's
that's
where
I'm
getting
at
with
that.
I
can
understand.
There
needs
to
be
a
lot
more
discussion
done
with
the
ad
hoc
committee,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
we
said
that
we
were
going
to
if
we
got
federal
funding.
We
didn't
have
a
bunch
of
stipulations
about
well.
P
If
this
happens-
or
that
happens,
we
said
if
we
got
federal
funding-
that
we
would
roll
back
the
tax
increase.
I'm
sure
I
understand
that
we
can't
apply
the
federal
funding
to
a
tax
increase.
I
understand
that,
but
I'm
certain
that
we
could
find
3.2
million
in
expenses
and
apply
that
federal
funding
to
and
not
have
to
raise
taxes.
P
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
was
the
pleasure
of
council
to
still
do
that
because
we
talked
about
it
back
in
december,
but
a
lot
of
time
has
passed
by.
I
don't
think
there
would
have
been
any
harm
to
take
an
up
or
down
vote
to
make
sure
that
our
council
was
still
feeling
that
way
that
they
wanted
to
try
to
find
that
money
to
roll
back
the
taxes.
That's
what
I
asked
for
sir,
and
I
hope
that
can
be
put
on
the
agenda.
There's
going
to
be
no
harm
to
do
that.
A
There's
no
harm
whatsoever
and,
as
I
mentioned
just
a
few
moments
ago,
we
wanted
to
share
complete
information
of
what
we
know
and
then
in
all
prudence.
Ask
if
council
and
you
would
like
to
make
a
motion
which
would
be
fine
to
do
tonight.
We're
prepared
to
share
with
you
everything
you
know
and
leave
it
up
to
y'all's
good
judgment.
If
you
want
to
make
a
motion
and
take
a
vote
on
it
tonight,
council
member
shade.
J
I
just
want
to
echo
what
councilman
waring
was
alluding
to.
We
can't
vote
on
something
we
don't
have
all
the
information
on.
That
would
be
imprudent
on
our
part
for
us
to
address
budget
issues
and
fiscal
responsibility
on
matters
we
don't
have
full
answers
on
would
be
irresponsible
and
councilman
mclaren
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
with
us
early
on
the
discussion.
I've
talked
to
miss
warren.
I
talked
to
mr
dina
and,
as
you
summarize
mayor,
we
don't
have
all
the
answers
out
there.
J
Yet
there
are
lawsuits
pending
and
their
rulings
we're
getting
from
the
united
states
treasury
department
on
how
this
money
may
or
may
not
be
applied
for
us
to
make
any
decisions
on
that
we're
not
being
good
stewards
of
our
of
the
public
funds.
So
we
need
to
wait
and
councilmember
waring
said
it:
let's
bring
it.
Let's
get
the
answers
that
we
need
to
receive.
J
I'm
not
wavering
for
my
commitment
on
this,
but
I
want
to
make
sure,
as
I'm
treading
through
this
monetary
issues,
that
we've
got
everything
on
the
table,
we
understand
what
we're
doing
so.
A
AM
I'm
starting
out
with
important
definitions,
because
some
of
this
is
a
little
confusing
when
it
comes
into
what
we
can
use
the
money
for
so
they
have
a
metropolitan
city
defined,
which
is
what
the
city
of
charleston
is,
and
those
are
the
definitions
there.
It's
based
on
housing
and
community
development
act
of
1974,
and
it's
basically
a
metropolitan
area,
which
is
the
central
city
of
such
an
area
or
a
metropolitan
area
that
has
a
population
of
50,
000
or
more.
AM
C
AM
Those
are
workers
needed
to
maintain
continuity
of
operations
or
essential
critical
infrastructure
sectors,
and
that
is
determined
by
the
chief
executive
officer
of
the
metropolitan
city.
So
the
mayor
could
say
that
all
city
employees
are
eligible
workers
premium.
Pay
is
an
amount
up
to
13
per
hour
that
is
paid
to
an
eligible
worker
and
that's.
AM
We
receive
our
cdbg
funding
non-entitlement
units
because
they're,
not
they
don't
have
that
same
formula.
It
was,
is
based
on
population
and
some
other
things
and
as
to
how
they
are
in
within
the
state
that
they
reside
and.
O
AM
AM
AM
By
providing
grants
to
eligible
employees.
I
have
eligible
workers,
perform
essential
work
and
providing
premium
paid
to
eligible
workers.
So
that's
why
I
had
those
two
definitions
for
you
at
the
beginning
and
then
also
for
revenue
losses
due
to
cover
19
collected
in
the
most
recent
full
fiscal
year.
AM
So
it's
limited
to
revenue
loss
due
to
pandemic
relative
to
the
fiscal
year
prior
to
the
emergency,
so
based
on
our
2020
revenue
losses,
if
that
makes
sense
and
then
to
make
necessary
investments
in
water,
sewer
or
broadband
infrastructure
transfer
funds
to
private
non-profit
organizations,
public
benefit
corporations
involved
in
the
transportation
of
passengers
or
cargo,
or
a
special
purpose
unit
of
state
or
local
government,
and
then
the
last
one
is
we
would.
We
could
also
transfer
this
money
back
to
the
state,
but
I
had
some
special
comments
about
that.
AM
Our
reporting
requirements
will
be
required
to
periodically
report
a
detailed
accounting
of
the
uses
of
the
funds,
and
if
we
use
those
funds
for
unallowable
purposes,
then
we
will
have
to
pay
the
funds
back.
So
it's
just
like
any
grant
that
we
have.
Basically,
we
are
going
to
have
some
reporting
requirements
and
then
this
is
the
property
tax
portion
of
this.
So
there's
some
confusion
on
the
ability
to
use
the
funds
for
property
tax
purposes.
AM
For
metropolitan
cities,
but
it
expressly
prohibits
a
state
or
territory
to
use
the
funds
to
either
directly
or
indirectly
offset
a
reduction
in
that
tax
revenue
or
reduction
in
the
rate,
a
deduction
of
credit
or
otherwise
delay
the
imposition
of
any
tax
or
tax
increase.
So
this
is
what
we
were
talking
about
and
susan.
AM
A
No,
if
funds
are
used
for
unallowable
purposes,
we
will
be
required
to
pay
the
funds
back,
and
I
met
with
mayor
summit
on
another
matter
yesterday,
and
this
was
his
top
concern
as
well
that
if
we
were
to
spend
funds
on
something
that
then
was
later
determined
to
be
not
unallowable,
that
you'd
literally
have
to
cough
the
money
back
up
and
return
it
to
the
federal
government
and-
and
we
just
need
to
be
prudent
and
careful
about
that
before
we
make
any
firm
decisions.
X
Miss
miss
wharton
asked
if
there
was
a
confederate,
a
question
about
this
project
slide.
Can
I
just
ask
a
quick
question
because
thank
you.
Are
we
saying
that,
because
the
verbiage
is
silent
for
metropolitan
cities,
that
we
are?
Is
the
decision
already
made
that
we're
allowed
to
do
what
the
entitled
states
our
cities
are
not
whatever
you're
calling
them
the.
AM
That's
what
we
need
to
research
and
make
sure
based
on
the
lawsuits
that
are
being
filed,
because
when
I
was
looking
at
this
too
I'll
just
say
this,
and
that
the
governmental
finance
officers
association.
They
had
some
some
guidance
on
this
and
they
mentioned
that.
The
way
that
they
had
put
out
the
restriction.
It
was
for
everybody,
it
wasn't
just
for
states
and
territories.
AM
X
AM
AL
Yeah
just
to
just
to
reiterate
that
point
that
you
know
we
can't
say
at
this
point
whether
the
city
can
use
the
funds
to
offset
a
tax
increase,
we're
we're
waiting
for
some
guidance
from
the
treasury
department.
You
know,
as
amy
said,
the
ad
forbids
from
using
the
funds,
either
directly
or
indirectly,
to
give
tax
relief,
it's
very,
very
strong
language
and
but
that
language
is
not
expressly
in
the
bill
restricting
cities.
So
there's
much
confusion
on
that
point.
Right
now,
which
is
understandable.
The
bill
just
was
passed.
AL
The
attorney
general
of
ohio
has
filed
a
lawsuit
asking
for
an
injunction
claiming
that
the
provision
restricting
the
state
is
unconstitutional
and
20
attorney.
Generals,
including,
I
guess
it's
21
attorney
generals,
including
attorney
general
wilson,
have
basically
requested
guidance
from
the
treasury
department
on
exactly
this
issue,
and
they
are
asking
for
an
answer
by
today
and
I
think
if
they
don't
get
an
answer
today,
they're
probably
going
to
be
joining
the
lawsuit
that's
already
been
filed.
AL
So
I
think
we
do
have
to
be
very
careful
here.
I
do,
but
I
also
think
the
matter
is
going
to
be
resolved,
hopefully
soon,
because
the
distribution
is
supposed
to
occur
relatively
soon
of
the
money,
I'm
happy.
If
anybody
wants
to
see
the
act,
the
language
in
the
act,
I'm
happy
to
send
it
to
you.
Just
let
me
know
also
happy
to
send
you
the
letter
that
attorney
general
wilson
signed
on
to
a
few
days
ago.
AL
AC
Councilmember
jackson
actually
covered
by
my
question,
and
it-
and
it
just
sounds
like
this-
is
something
that's
in
the
process
of
getting.
You
know
worked
out
and.
AE
So
I
I
guess
I
don't
I'm
somehow
missing
a
link
as
to
as
to
how
a
leads
to
b.
I
mean
you
know
if
you're,
if
you're
granted
this
money
and
you
use
it
as
you're
allowed,
wouldn't
couldn't
you
then,
when
you
submit
your
millage,
when
do
we
submit
it
amy
the
end
of
september,
something
around
in
there
just.
AE
AM
Well,
that's
why
we
need
additional
guidance.
We
have
a
balanced
budget
right
now,
councilmember
de
chapo,
and
it
includes
the
millage
so
they're
saying
directly
or
indirectly
we
have
a
balanced
budget,
and
so,
if
we
were
to
use
that
we
would
they
could
consider
that
supplanting
and
now
I'm
getting
into
grant
terms
a
little
bit.
So
that's
why
we
need
to
just
get
better
clarification
from
them
to
see
what
what
they,
what
their
intent
is
because.
U
AE
Right
that
includes
the
millage
increase.
I
guess
that's
just
you
know,
would
you
run
the
risk
of
having
us?
You
know
having
a
surplus,
so
that's
I
I
guess
I'm
just
not
seeing
how
the
dots
connect
so
clearly,
if
you
are,
if
you
wind
up
with
this
money
and
you're
able
to
use
it,
and
you
can
then
relieve
your
tax,
relieve
your
taxpayers.
AL
But
council,
member
del
chapo-
I
don't
know
if
this
helped
enough,
but
I
kind
of
dug
into
the
history
of
of
the
bill,
because
I
had
the
same
question
about
how
to
connect
a
to
b
and
what
I
found
was
the
indirect
languages
included
in
there
by
the
senate.
I
think
primarily
because
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
this
at
least
the
states
were
going
to
use
the
money
on
programs
that
the
bill
was
intended
to
to
fund
and
and
not
to
be
used
for
tax
relief.
AL
X
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
I
I
I
have
one
thought
for
you,
councilwoman
del
chapo,
I'm
I'm.
I
think,
I'm
following
your
your
your
your
logic
about
why
a
glass
question
I
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
and
I'm
sure
ms
wharton
is
doing
this,
but
once
we
get
the
actual,
you
know
apples
to
apples,
comparison
of
what
is
allowed,
which
sounds
like
we
are
going
to
be
able
to
figure
that
out
pretty
easily.
Then
we
need
to
match
that
to
what
have
we
budgeted.
X
So
if
allowed
expenses
are
actually
in
our
budget,
then
I
think
your
logic
is
correct,
that
we
would
be
able
to
say
we're
substituting
new
money
for
budgeted
money
and
then
that
will
impact
the
overall
need
for
for
raising
the
millage
right.
You
know
the
worst
case,
downside,
not
that
getting
money
that
we
can
put
to
good
use.
Is,
you
know
a
worse
case,
but
in
terms
of
trying
to
match
our
budget
expenses
there
might
be
a
lot
of
allowable.
X
You
know
funds
that
are
coming
to
us
from
this
20
million
that
don't
really
replace
the
money
that
we
budgeted
for
other
purposes.
So
that's
that's!
Sort
of
my
thought
that
we
we
need
to
do
that
cross.
You
know
hatching
matching
to
make
sure
that
what
we
get
is
something
that
can
substitute
for
what
we
know
we
are
going
to
spend
out
of
our
general
funds
budget.
AM
Right,
typically,
with
appropriations
or
grants,
you,
don't
you
don't
use
it
for
the
items
that
are
already
budgeted
for
it's
for
those
things
above
and
beyond.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
budget
cuts,
things
that
we
took
out
of
the
budget,
because
we
didn't
have
the
revenue
to
support
it.
That
would
be
more
what
you
would
use
those
those
funds
for
which
I
have
some
examples.
If
you
want
me
to
go
forward.
AM
We
had
the
hiring
freeze
for
3.5
million
and
then
the
mayor's
amendment
right
before
we
approved
the
final
budget
of
2.9
million.
So
some
of
those
things
you
know,
like
I'm
saying,
potential
potential
uses,
maybe
based
on
our
previous
budget
cuts,
depending
on
the
guidance
that
we
get
from
the
federal
government
are
some
of
these
things
that
we
that
we
have
taken
out
of
the
budget
like
over
time
reductions.
AM
Overtime,
reductions
for
our
departments
right
now
is
is
incredibly
difficult
because
we
have
a
hiring
freeze,
less
employees,
and
then
we
will
cut
their
overtime
as
well.
We
took
the
two
transfers
to
the
drainage
fund:
affordable
housing.
We
didn't
do
those
transfers
in
2021.
Those
are
other
things
and
again
we
need
to
get
good
detailed
guidance
from
the
federal
government,
but
these
are
just
some
of
the
items
there
was
that
10
discretionary
operating
cuts
that
we
did,
which
has
been
also
very
difficult
for
our
for
our
departments
as
well.
So
those
are
just
some
examples.
AM
There's
a
lot
of
equipment
and
things
like
that
for
the
fire
department
and
some
for
the
police
department
that
we
could
add
back
so
that
that's
more
those
things
that
we
cut
would
be
more
what
I
think
that
they
would
be
looking
for
us
to
utilize
those
funds
for,
and
then
we
also.
AM
AM
So
it's
great
news,
but
we
just
need
some
further
guidance.
We're
planning
we're
scheduling,
a
meeting
for
the
ad
hoc
budget
committee
in
april.
Hopefully
we'll
have
some
good
information
from
the
federal
government
by
then
and
then
maybe
we
can
back
can
come
back
with
some
recommendations
to
council
by
may
so
that's
kind
of
the
plan
for
right
now.
A
H
Just
one
question:
the
language
is
so
explicit
for
state
and
territories.
You
all
just
think
they
made
a
mistake
by
being
vague
on
municipalities,.
H
What's
the
legal
thinking
on
that
now,
they're
so
explicit
on
states
not
being
able
to
utilize
the
dollars
that
way,
I
don't
think
it
was
accidentally
left
out
municipalities.
I
think
it
was
on
purpose.
So
where
is
the
thinking
on
our
behalf
that
they
must
have
meant
to
include
cities
along
with
states.
AL
Yeah
and
that's
that's
the
debate-
that's
been
going
on
because
it's
not
specifically
listed
in
a
restriction
with
respect
to
the
metropolitan
cities,
but
it's
not
expressly
exempted
either.
So
there's
there's
this
gray
area
and-
and
I
think
that
the
concern
is
that
we
want
to
be
cautious.
Because
again,
as
the
mayor
said,
if
we,
if
we
go
ahead
and
use
the
money
for
a
not
allowable
expense,
then
it's
got
to
be
paid
back.
C
H
A
H
P
See
yes,
sir,
you
know
I
just
felt
like
we
owed
it
to
our
constituents,
to
reiterate
to
them
that,
if
it's
allowable
that
our
council
still
has
that
thought
process
that
we
want
to
reimburse
our
citizens
or
balance
the
budget
without
even
raising
taxes
due
to
the
fact
that
the
millage
increase
wouldn't
be
due
until
the
end
of
august
or
september.
I
just
that
my
heart
was
in
a
good
place
on
this.
I
was
not
trying
to
put
the
cart
before
the
horse.
P
A
Thank
you
councilmember,
and
I
agree
with
that.
I,
as
I
said
in
the
opening,
that's
my
com,
commitment
as
well,
but
I
just
want
to
be
careful
that
we
don't
put
ourselves
in
a
situation.
We
regret
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
fully
informed
you
know,
as
best
we
can
before
making
those
kind
of
decisions
council.
Member
shade-
oh
mitchell,
I
haven't
heard
from
yet
council
member
mitchell.
Yes,.
E
I
I
agree
with
that
and
even
with
councilman
griffin,
I
understand
fully
what
you're
saying-
and
I
agree
with
that
too.
But
all
I'm
saying
is
that's
best-
make
sure
that
the
money
is
allowable,
make
sure
it's
allowable.
When
we
use
it,
we
don't
have
money
to
pay
back,
because
I
know
I
don't
have
any,
but
you
know
just
to
make
sure
of
that,
but
I
agree.
100
percent
do
because
I
voted
also
that
we
see
receive
this
money
we'll
give
it
back
to
the
tax
period,
reduce
the
taxes
back.
E
J
Yes,
sir,
so
mr
rodina
and
miss
warren,
would
you
mind
emailing
to
me
the
powerpoint
presentation
that
you
just
put
up
for
us
and
the
the
letter
that
counts,
that
attorney
general
wilson
sent
out
for
that
and
amy
a
more
specific
question
on
one
of
those
slides.
She
showed
what
a
million
dollars,
I
think,
had
been
deferred
for
overtime,
and
I
and
I
see
our
two
chiefs
on
on
this
meeting.
J
Where
are
we
getting
if,
if
we
know
with
our
overtime
expenditures,
are
we
starting
to
hit
the
ceiling
with
that
on
our
expenditures,
because
that
would
normally
count
for
both
the
fire
department,
police
department,
sort
of
our
greatest
expense
on
overtime
for
those
two
departments.
A
Well,
I
I
would
say
we're
concerned
about
it:
council,
member,
we,
I
don't
believe,
we've
hit
the
ceiling
yet,
as
you
say,
and
I
think
the
timing
of
this
will
be
such
that
we
can
restore
that
before
it
would
quote,
hit
the
ceiling
as
you
infer.
Okay,.
J
AM
Think
I'm
working
with
all
the
departments
and
have
come
up
with
some
creative
solutions,
but
especially
with
police
and
fire.
You
never
you
just
never
know
you
know.
Just
you
can
talk
to
chief
reynolds
about.
I
mean
they
keep
having
certain
events
and
things
like
that,
and
there's
there's
really
nothing
that
they
can.
They
can
do
but
everybody's
trying
to
manage
it
as
well
as
they
can.
It's
just
incred,
incredibly
more
difficult
for
police
and
fire
to
do
that,
but
they're
doing
the
best
they
can.
AC
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
councilman
waring.
If
you
can
believe
this,
when
there's
a
dispute
over
statutory
interpretation,
there
are
rules
in
in
latin.
You
know,
rules
of
construction
that
would
allow
lawyers
to
argue.
I
just
just
try
to
believe
this.
You
know
you
know
opposite
sides
of
the
same
argument.
They
could
be
looking
at
the
same
thing.
So
there's
a
statutory
rule
of
construction
that
can
say.
AC
One
that
can
say
it's
not
so
I
think
that's
what's
in
the
process
of
being
worked
out,
but
my
my
comment
is
is
that
it
occurs
to
me
that
you
know
if
you've
been
out
downtown
over
the
weekends
and
even
most
nights
over
the
last
several
months.
There's
a
lot
of
people
eating
out
at
restaurants.
There's
a
lot
of
people
staying
at
hotels,
you
know,
maybe
our
a-tax
revenue
and
our
age
tax
revenue
may
be
looking
a
little
bit
better
than
probably
we
feared
last
year.
AC
So
I
think
that,
as
we
continue
this
discussion
as
we
continue
to
get
more
clarity
on
the
legal
use
of
these
federal
funds,
I
mean-
maybe
there's
some-
you
know
green
shoots
elsewhere
in
our
financial
picture
that
can
allow
us
to
get
to
the
end
result
that
everybody
on
this
zoom
call
agrees
on.
Nobody
wanted
to
raise
taxes
on
anybody.
You
know
we
all
share
that
goal:
councilman
griffin,
of
course,
and
and
to
the
extent
there's
anybody
out
in
the
public.
That's
that's
worried
about
the
two
mill
increase.
AC
We
are
here
and
gonna
work
as
hard
as
possible
to
eliminate
that
we
just
got
to
do
it
the
legal
way.
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
perhaps
you
know
the
the
federal
stimulus
money
is
not
the
only
show
in
town,
perhaps
there's
some
other
opportunities,
maybe
some
things
we
could
have
cut
last
year
that
we
hadn't
looked
at.
So
let's
put
everything
on
the
table
and
try
to
figure
out
a
way
we
can
avoid
this
tax
increase
this
september
thanks.
A
Thank
you
all
right,
we're
going
to
do
that,
so
any
other
points
or
discussion.
A
So
we're
going
to
follow
up
we're
going
to
learn
everything
we
can
we're
going
to
keep
you
informed
and
we're
going
to
come
to
the
ad
hoc
budget
committee
where
at
which
all
council
members
are
welcome,
to
come
and
participate
when
we
put
that
notice
out
and
and
then
we'll
bring
a
full
recommendation
to
ways
and
means,
and
city
council
so
and
and
councilmember
griffin.
Thank
you
again
for
bringing
it
up.
I
mean
we
needed
to
have
this
information
and
discussions
very
helpful.
I
think,
thank
you.
A
So
next
is
our
council
committee
reports.
First
is
committee
on
community
development,
council
member
mitchell.
E
Yes,
I'm
gonna
try
to
make
this
pr
very
quick.
Okay,
we
had
a
special
community
development
meeting.
What
was
on
thursday
march
11th
4
30,
at
4,
30
and
under
under
public
participation.
E
We
had
mr
bradford
and
megan
to
give
us
a
little
update
on
the
low
line
and
we
moved
on
down
to
new
business
under
number
one
that
was
approved
by
the
committee,
that
was,
a
community
development
block,
grant
home
funds
and
the
harper
funds,
and
then
number
two
was
only
for
information.
Talking
about
the
equity
in
the
low
line,
then
number
three
and
four
was
considered.
A
resolution
certifying
the
property
at
220
once
in
philip
and
223
in
phillips
street
as
abandoned
building.
AE
E
Okay
and
then
we
go
on
we
have,
but
we
had
a
discussion
about
the
james
lewis,
complex
and
under
the
james
con
fluids
complex.
E
They
are
getting
ready
to
thinking
about
doing
an
incubator
there
and
I'm
gonna
ask
miss
jordan,
our
mbe
manager
to
come
forward
and
explain
to
us-
and
we
also
voted
for
that
resolution
with
the
mba
on
that
also
with
the
jam
through
his
complex
doing
an
incubator
for
people
to
learn
businesses
and
go
out
and
be
able
to
open
their
own
businesses.
And
things
like
that.
So
miss
jordan
is
on
the
line.
AO
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
councilmember
mitchell
here
in
the
city
of
charleston.
We
have
lost
a
number
of
african-american
businesses
over
the
past
several
years
and
when
we
looked
at
where
we
can
possibly
create
an
incubator,
the
developer
over
at
the
james
lewis's
building
had
about
7
600
square
feet.
On
the
first
floor,
when
we
had
entered
into
discussion
about
being
intentional
and
creating
a
business
incubator
to
provide
retail
space
office
space
common
space,
we
were
also
looking
at
a
restaurant,
but
we're
finding
that
we're
not.
AO
But
more
importantly,
help
them
to
recover
from
the
epidemic,
and
so
we
feel
like
this
is
a
great
opportunity
that
we
can
take
advantage,
particularly
with
the
developer,
offering
us
that
space
currently
in
a
in
a
dark
shell,
we'll
continue
to
have
a
conversation
about
that
7,
600
square
feet
and
I'll
be
I'll.
Take
any
questions
and
bring
you
back
further
information
as
well.
A
I
would
just
like
to
add
that
that
definition
of
dark
shell
means
basically
unimproved.
E
So,
okay,
mr
mayor,
the
community
development
committee,
I
think
we
voted
for
the
resolution
to
go
forward
with
that,
and
so
I'm
actually
the
council
to
go
and
even
to
amend
that
to
approve
that.
Also,
if
I
can
get
a
motion
with
that.
A
AO
E
Thank
you
for
miss
jordan
for
that,
because
we
need
to
give
her
a
hand
and
miss
johnson
hand.
They
work
together,
hand
in
hand
on
that
to
working
with
the
development,
and
that's
something
good
that
we
is
not
going
to
cost
us
that
bunch
of
money
but
it'll
be
there
for
a
hundred
years.
Also
with
the
complex.
E
That's
the
end
of
my
report,
I'm
down
oh
and
the
last
one
on
there
is
the
old
business
we
we
didn't
take
that
up
because
they'll
be
coming
before
council.
Okay,
great!
Thank
you.
A
Next
up
is
our
committee
on
public
works,
councilmember,
waring,.
H
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
after
that
wonderful
presentation
by
mr
fountain
earlier,
our
stormwater
committee
didn't
meet
all
items
as
you
see
on
your
agenda
was
voted
on
unanimous
unanimously,
and
I
saw
that.
A
A
So
I
believe
that
troy
miller
is
on
the
line,
troy
served
as
chairman,
and
I
believe
susan
pearlstein
might
be
with
us
as
well,
who
helped
generate
this
whole
notion
of
of
taking
this
action
and
and
troy
and
susan.
Let
me
just
say:
I've
already
thanked
you
publicly
twice,
but
you
weren't
there
so
I'll
just
update
you
later,
but
big
thanks
go
out
to
two
of
you,
troy
and
and
susan,
do
you
want
to
make
brief
remarks?
Troy.
AP
Yeah
sure,
thank
you,
mr
mayor
yeah.
I
just.
I
think
this
is
a
good
step
forward
for
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
trying
to
make
better
aesthetics
and
and
continue
to
provide
the
service
that
we
have
to
with
the
with
the
utilities.
AP
I
hope
this
is
going
to
give
you
as
council
members
a
great
opportunity
to
look
in
your
own
districts
and
find
these
these
smaller
projects
that
we
can
tackle
quicker
and
be
able
to
actually
accomplish
some
of
this,
as
opposed
to
it
kind
of
getting
clogged
up
in
the
system.
So
I
hope
this
ordinance
kind
of
greases
the
wheels
a
little
bit
allows
you
a
little
more
freedom
to
get
things
moving,
and
I
think
each
of
you,
if
you
look
in
your
districts,
will
find
these
small
projects.
AP
I
know
council
member
rappel
we've
talked
about
maybank
highway.
I
spoke
to
some
of
your
residents
today,
council
member
seekings,
about
about
broad
street
and
some
of
the
ongoing
things
there
and
certainly
in
other
districts.
I'm
sure
you
guys
can
all
point
to
spots
that
could
use
this,
and
so
I
hope
you
will
use
it
well
and
we'll
certainly
continue
to
bring
options
and
ideas
to
you
on
how
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
AN
Again
mayor,
thank
you
very
much
for
agreeing
to
form
this
task
force.
It
is
very
nice
to
be
part
of
a
task
force
that
we
actually
started
and
completed
a
project
that
worked
out
so
well,
and
I
really
thank
the
city
staff
that
worked
with
me,
troy
and
all
the
city
council
members
that
helped
make
this
possible.
AN
I
agree
with
troy
it's
it's
time
for
us
to
do
smaller,
less
cumbersome
projects,
and
I
think
once
we
get
a
few
things
in
the
ground,
charlestonians
will
recognize
what
we
did
here
and
and
we'll
appreciate
it.
So
thank
you
all.
H
You,
mr
men,
for
recognizing
those
I
didn't
know
they
were
online.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Recognition
of
them
don't
do
great
public
servants.
I
remember
susan
going
all
the
way
back
to
gimme
shelter,
the
first
bus
shelters
around.
She
was
the
first
person
that
came
up
with
that
program,
so
thank
you
so
much
susan,
obviously
troy
with
the
municipal
golf
course.
So,
thank
you,
mr
may.
I
didn't
realize
they
were
absolutely
kind
of
that's
the
end
of
my
report.
A
P
Yes,
sir,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
on
council
sees
that
we
took
up
the
small
project
allocation
that
million
dollars,
that
is
in
the
budget.
Every
year
we
were
dealing
with
a
little
overage.
We
were
looking
at
like
1.4
matt
rolled
up
his
sleeves
and
found
a
way
to
keep
every
single
one
of
those
projects
on
the
list
for
this
year.
P
P
AC
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
special
shout
out
to
two
district
11
all-stars
susan
perlstein
and
troy
miller,
who
played
an
instrumental
role
in
this
process.
You
know
susan
with
south
windermere
and
then
troy
with,
of
course,
river
and
terrace,
and
just
so
everybody's
clear
about
what
we're
talking
about
here
I
mean
you
can
get
bogged
down
a
little
bit
with
non-standard
service.
What
does
that
mean?
AC
This
is
to
prevent
the
hacking
of
our
trees
in
our
neighborhoods
and
in
our
corridors.
We
had
a
conversation
at
public
works
yesterday
about
the
the
job
dominion
did
outside
of
charlestown
landing.
You
know,
we
all
know
what
we're
talking
about
here.
This
is
you
know,
and
it
doesn't
take
a
rocket
scientist
to
understand.
If
you
put
the
power
lines
underground,
you
can
allow
the
trees
to
grow
and
flourish.
So
that's
what
this
is
all
about,
and
we've
got
an
agreement
in
place
with
dominion.
AC
We've
had
a
very
difficult
process
over
the
years
over
the
many
decades.
This
set
of
reforms.
These
improvements
that
we're
putting
into
place
are
going
to
allow
more
projects
to
get
into
the
ground
all
over
the
city,
and
it's
really
exciting
to
think
about,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
this
to
build
more
some
momentum
and
drive
some
additional
resources
to
this
important
work,
and
you
know
tip
of
the
hat
to
chip
mcqueeny.
This
is
an
extremely
complicated
ordinance.
AC
He
had
to
deal
with
us
on
all
these
council
meeting
committee
meetings
saying
well
take
this
out
now
put
it
back
in
now
turn
it
around
360.,
so
this
would
not
have
been
possible
without
him
and
just
a
really
great
team
effort
all
the
way
around
and,
of
course,
councilwoman
del
chapo
making
sure
the
anson
borough
folks
are
taken
care
of
and
of
course,
we'll
make
sure
some
of
those
projects
get
greenlit
as
soon
as
we
get
this
finalized.
So
thank
you
all.
A
Unless
we
forget
tracy
mckee
in
the
prioritization
matrix
to
help
prioritize
the
projects
in
the
city-
sorry
about
that
tracy,
of
course,
of
course,
so
any
further
questions
so
we'll
approve
really
all
the
items
from
committee
and
public
works,
including
small
project
allocations
lists
and
this
ordinance
on
non-standard
service.
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye,
aye
aye!
You
opposed
the
odds.
Have
it?
A
AC
F
A
A
I'm
recusing
myself
from
that
matter,
as
you
all
know,
so,
I'm
going
to
if
y'all
go
into
executive
session
unless
there's
any
other
business
to
come
before
council
tonight,
I'm
going
to
beg
your
forbearance
and
ask
that
your
pro
tem
jackson
adjourned
the
meeting
after
y'all
come
out
of
executive
session.
Is
that
okay?