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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 12/7/21
A
A
A
D
Yes,
let
us
pray
I
am
reading
from
jeremiah
33,
then
the
word
of
the
lord
came
to
jeremiah
thus
says
the
lord
who
made
the
earth
the
lord
who
formed
it
to
establish
it.
The
lord
is
his
name
call
to
me,
and
I
will
answer
you
and
I
will
tell
you
great
and
mighty
things
which
you
do
not
know,
lord
god.
It
is
so
true
that
we
do
not
know
so
many
of
the
things
that
are
ahead
of
us.
D
I
pray
that
we
will
learn
from
those
that
are
behind
us
and
around
us,
and
especially
from
the
people
who
rely
on
our
leadership
and
our
decision-making
for
this
long-standing
city
that
has
relied
on.
You
help
us
to
be
in
that
humbled
position
and
never
forget
that
you
are
mighty
and
we
are
not
in
your
name.
We
pray,
amen.
B
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
First
up
we
have
a
few
presentations
we'd
like
to
make
this
evening
and
before
I
present
the
2022
robert
ballard
award,
I'd
like
to
just
take
a
moment
and
remind
everybody
that
last
year
we
rededicated
this
neighborhood
leadership
and
volunteer
award
in
honor
and
in
memory
of
a
truly
remarkable
neighborhood
and
civic
leader,
and
that
was
robert
ballard
and
he
passed
away
in
2018..
A
A
We
just
couldn't
do
it
without
these
wonderful
volunteers
and,
as
I
said
each
year,
these
neighborhood
commissioners
have
this
hard
job
of
of
coming
up
with
a
pool
of
nominees
and
the
best
best
honoree
for
this
civic
participation
each
year.
So
tonight
I'm
very
proud
to
announce
that
the
recipient,
it
really
it's
the
2021
robert
ballard
award,
is
latonya
gamble
of
the
eastside
neighborhood.
A
A
As
president
of
ecdc,
she
has
spearheaded
a
number
of
important
programs,
including
anti-violence
campaigns,
a
trident
tech
scholarship
program,
an
internet
cafe
to
provide
residents
with
access
to
the
internet,
meals
for
community
members
during
coba
19.
Her
work
enables
many
east
side
residents
to
access
services
like
telemedicine,
job
interviews,
unemployment,
assistance,
voter
registration
and
more
boy.
I'm
I'm
thinking
about
tc
with
with
each
one
of
those.
In
addition,
latonya
works
hard
to
fundraise
for
the
neighborhood
association,
which
is
entirely
supported
by
membership
dues
and
grants
and
generosity
they
are
just.
A
B
Well,
thank
you,
everybody.
I
also
want
to
thank
my
neighborhood
association
and
miss
alexis
wright
singleton,
who
I
could
not
have
done
any
of
this
sheila
feels
just
really
my
community
there's.
No,
I
in
team.
I
cannot
do
any
of
these
things
without
my
community
and
I
thank
you,
my
community
for
thinking
of
me.
Thank
you.
E
A
A
So
I
have
a
resolution
regarding
ms
greene
who,
who
many
of
you
knew
as
well.
She
was
an
incredible
woman
and
well
let
me
proceed,
whereas
the
city
of
charleston
wishes
to
recognize
one
of
its
most
dedicated
citizens.
Sarah
may
greene
and
whereas
sarah
was
born
january
5th,
1942
and
panopoulos
to
the
late
willis
and
maggie
green
was
one
of
four
children.
She
attended
school
in
charleston,
county
and
graduated
from
burke
high
school
in
1961..
A
She
joined
church
at
an
early
age
and
was
a
member
of
pisgah
baptist
church
in
charleston
and
active
in
the
ashley
baptist
association
in
various
ministries.
In
her
church
she
was
a
civil
rights
activist
alongside
the
reverend
fred
dawson.
She
was
a
president
emeritus
of
the
gadson
green
association
and
a
commissioner
on
the
board
of
the
charleston
housing
authority.
She
served
on
the
resident
advisory
board,
housing
authority,
community
center
aid
and
housing
authority
neighborhood
service
commission.
A
Sarah
was
an
advocate
for
children
and
and
seniors
in
her
community,
striving
to
address
challenges
of
public
housing
and
care
for
the
homeless.
Sarah
was
a
recipient
of
multiple
awards
throughout
her
lifetime,
including
the
martin
luther
king
jr
portrait
award,
which
recognizes
people
for
their
community
service.
A
Sarah
leaves
behind
two
daughters,
bonder
chaplin,
her
husband,
lennon
and
darla
godfrey
her
husband,
john
grandchildren,
great
grandchildren
and
many
more
cherished
friends
and
loved
ones,
and
sarah
earned
the
respect,
admiration
and
high
regard
of
all
with
whom
she
came
into
contact,
including
yours,
truly
and
the
charleston
community
has
sustained
a
great
loss
in
her
death.
Now,
therefore,
be
that
I
j
john
j
teckenberg
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston,
on
behalf
of
our
citizens
and
our
city
council,
extend
to
you
her
family,
this
expression
of
regret,
but
we
know
we.
A
A
B
You
for
having
us
here,
yes
ma'am,
my
mom
gave
me
tirelessly
her
years
of
service
never
was
on
a
payroll
with
any
organization,
but
I
remember
waking
up
when
I
was
a
child
and
having
10
kids
in
my
living
room
watching
t
cartoons
on
saturday.
That's
that's
where
it
started
from.
She
had
a
heart
for
service.
She
did
it
to
the
end.
Excuse
me
when
she
got
a
little
sicker,
I
was
like
mommy.
You
need
to
get
off
some
of
these
boards.
She
was
not
hearing
it.
B
G
A
I
received
by
the
way,
just
today,
this
card
for
a
little
gift
given,
and
it's
got
sarah's
picture
on
it,
so
I'm
gonna
keep
that
all
right.
Next
up
is
a
proclamation
and
it's,
I
guess
in
a
way
related
because
don
knew
sarah
so
well
in
his
work
at
the
at
the
housing
authority.
I
think
council
knows-
and
I
let
everyone
here
know
that
don
cameron,
hard
to
believe
is
retiring
at
the
end
of
this
year.
A
A
A
A
Additionally,
don
was
inducted
into
the
first
class
of
nahro.
I
believe
that's
a
housing
association
fellows
for
lifetime
achievement
in
2008
honored
by
charleston
hebrew
benevolence
society
in
2011,
presented
with
a
leadership
award
by
the
u.s
green
building
council
in
2011,
recognized
by
the
mojo
archfell
festival
for
enhancing
quality
of
life.
The
list
goes
on.
Don
cameron
has
served
in
numerous
leadership
roles
in
the
housing
industry
and
has
professional
credentials
that
include
past
president
south
carolina
directors,
association
past
president
carolina's,
council
of
housing
and
redevelopment
officials.
A
B
B
We,
that
is
the
housing
authority
and
the
city
of
charleston,
have
done
great
things
in
the
past
87
years
and
it's
been
a
wonderful
partnership
and
I
just
wanted
to
pass
that
along.
That
is
just
that:
a
partnership
working
together
for
the
benefit
of
the
people,
particularly
those
who
are
economically
challenged
in
our
community
and
again,
thank
you
very
much
for
this
generous
honor.
I
really
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
A
So
pete,
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
call
your
first
name
so
pete
sherman
is
a
development
director
of
development
for
the
housing
authority
and
art
milligan
will
be
the
new
executive
director.
So
you
heard
that
number
a
minute
ago,
right,
2473.,
let's
see
how
long
it
will
take
you
guys
to
do
the
next
2473
of
new
housing
units
in
the
city
of
charleston.
We're
going
to
do
that
right,
we're
going
to
keep
growing
it.
A
If
that
happens,
unless
you
need
special
assistance
and
see
one
of
these
officers
and
we're
all
go
down
the
two
stairs
and
then
out
the
front
stairs
from
the
from
the
first
floor,
so
that's
just
let
everybody
know
how
to
get
out
of
the
building
just
in
case.
We
need
to
all
right.
So
next
up
is
our
public
hearings.
We
normally
have
our
planning
department,
announce
those.
H
H
H
H
So
during
that
panel
we
heard
a
lot
of
conversation
around.
What
can
we
do
to
make
king
street
safer?
What
can
we
do
to
make
it
cleaner?
Obviously,
the
city
provides
quite
a
bit
of
service
in
that
area,
but
we
we
know
that,
given
the
amount
of
traffic
and
the
amount
of
people
that
are
in
that
area,
there
is
more
work
to
do
there.
What
can
be
done
to
improve
communication?
H
This
communication-
isn't
just
you,
know
the
city
communicating,
although
some
of
that
is
in
there,
but
it
really
is
how
to
communicate
the
message
of
the
street,
the
businesses
to
locals,
to
the
region
and
to
the
the
larger
environment.
How
do
businesses
communicate
amongst
themselves
and
come
together
as
a
group?
H
Additionally,
wayfinding
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
heard
a
lot
about
is
what
can
we
do
to
improve
wayfinding,
there's
a
lot
of
great
way,
finding
related
to
how
to
find
parking,
but
beyond
that
other
services,
other
amenities
that
are
within
the
district
and
adjacent
to
the
district?
Not
so
much
so
another
thing
to
take
a
look
at
vacancies.
As
you
can
imagine,
in
march
2021,
there
were
some
vacancies
on
king
street.
That
was
one
of
the
topics
that
we
heard
about
now.
H
Wonderfully
those
vacancy
numbers
have
dropped.
We've
seen
quite
a
bit
of
improvement
in
those
vacancy
rates.
Our
folks
in
neighborhoods
and
business
services
done
some
great
reporting
on
that,
but
vacancies.
How
can
vacancies
be
managed
as
a
district,
not
necessarily
just
addressing
issues
that
any
individual
property
may
have?
That
vacancy
also
helps
contribute
to
that
vibrancy
again?
What
can
we
do
to
create
additional
vibrancy
additional
energy
in
the
district
and
then,
finally,
what
can
we
do
or
where
is
that
champion,
that
voice
and,
more
importantly,
that
inclusivity?
H
So
you
know
we
have
government,
we
have
the
stakeholders,
we
have
the
representative
for
the
area.
In
fact,
actually
this
king
street
has
three
representatives
on
this
on
this
council
that
touch
it
in
different
and
different
parts.
But
what
about
the
folks
who
work
on
the
street
live
on
the
street
and
own
those
properties
on
the
street?
How
can
they
collectively
come
together
and
have
a
voice
in
how
the
street
is
managed
and
and
how
that
goes
forward?
H
H
G
G
We
established
the
charleston
downtown
alliance
made
up
of
property
owners
on
king
street
almost
a
year
ago
today
and
over
the
last
six
months,
especially
the
last
three
in
constant
communication
with
the
city
we
set
out
to
put
leather
on
the
street
and
meet
with
and
talk
to
property
owners
and
business
owners
on
the
street.
At
your
last
finance
committee
meeting
in
north
charleston,
we
were
hovering
at
50
51,
verbal
approvals
of
a
the
concept
of
a
bid,
and
today
we're
over
55
percent
with
about
61
of
verbal.
G
So
we
continue
to
go
out
and
talk
to
property
owners
and
business
owners.
Those
numbers
I
just
shared
55
and
61
percent
are
actually
property
owners.
Since
that
last
meeting,
we've
talked
to
at
least
or
actually
have
signed
statements
of
support
from
40
business
operators
on
the
street,
so
we're
after
the
meeting
last
month.
G
When
you
said
yes
we'll
go
further,
we
took
that
time
to
go
out
and
start
talking
to
the
business
operators
to
overwhelming
support
in
favor
of
creating
this
business
improvement
district
so
that
we
can
work
hand
in
hand
with
the
city
help
the
city
provide
those
basic
core
services,
safety,
cleanliness,
etc,
and
then
we
will
look
at
ways
to
enhance
that
experience.
It's
it's
no
secret
to
the
people
in
this
room
that
or
companies
like
volvo
have
viewed
king
street
as
an
economic
development
engine
when
they
narrowed
the
focus
to
five
communities.
G
That
said,
we
could
be
successful
in
any
of
those
five
they
chose
here
because
of
the
demographics
on
king
street.
They
said
these
are
our
customers.
We
want
to
have
a
presence
here,
so
I
can't
underestimate
the
importance
of
what
we're
all
trying
to
collectively
do.
I
think
the
business
and
property
owners
that
are
here
behind
me
tonight
wholeheartedly
support.
I
can
also
tell
you:
we've
had
two
verbal
they're
not
interested,
and
everyone
else
we've
talked
to
has
been
so.
H
Thank
you
so
so
that's
the
downtown
alliance.
They
are
our
non-profit
partner
in
this
work
on
the
bid
again,
this
is
not
the
city
initiating
this.
This
is
the
business
community,
the
property
owners
on
king
street.
Coming
to
us
saying:
hey,
you
all
have
this
in
your
toolbox.
We
would
like
to
use
this
because
we
think
there's
more,
that
can
be
done
and
we
understand
that
the
city's
coffers
can't
can't
cover
all
of
that.
So
with
that,
what
is
the
king
street
business
improvement?
H
District
y'all
recognize
this
slide,
it's
very
similar
to
the
one
that
I
showed
you
for
the
johns
island
mid.
That's
because
the
statute
that
we're
deriving
this
big
concept
comes
from
the
municipal
improvement
district
statute
under
south
carolina
law,
so
it's
very
similar
language
from
the
enabling
act,
and
so
what
does
it
mean,
though?
For
for
us?
So
what
it
means
is
it's
services
that
are
additive
to
what
the
city
already
does
like
doug
just
mentioned.
H
These
are
not
duplicative
services,
these
are
enhancements
to
existing
services
and
they
may
be
new
services
that
the
city
doesn't
currently
provide,
but
could,
if
we
had,
you
know
the
revenues
to
be
able
to
do
that.
It
is
important
that
the
services
that
would
be
provided
would
be
things
that
we
as
government
are
otherwise
enabled
to
enact.
So
we
can't
do
things
or
the
bid
can't
do
things
that
we,
the
city,
couldn't
otherwise.
H
Otherwise
do
it's
important
to
note
that
existing
owner-occupied
residential
units
and
zero
tax
assessment
properties
or
parcels
such
as
houses
of
worship,
government,
buildings,
universities,
things
like
that,
will
not
be
assessed
anything
because
if
you
have
a
zero
assessment,
this
calculation,
that's
in
the
next
paragraph,
obviously
we'll
create
a
zero,
a
zero
number.
So
all
other
parcels
that
are
within
the
district
and
the
district
is
essentially
properties
that
have
frontage
on
king
street,
between
line
street
and
broad
street.
They
would
be
billed
no
more
than
zero
1.0113.
H
Cents
per
dollar
of
assessed
value,
not
market
value
but
assessed
value,
and
the
period
for
this
is
only
a
10
year
period.
If
it's
successful,
like
the
columbia
model,
has
been
very
successful,
we
hope
to
be
back
in
10
years
to
bring
this
board
for
consideration
to
re-up
it,
but
it
will
require
us
to
go
through
the
entire
process
all
over
again,
I
do
want
to
be
clear,
because
this
has
been
a
question
mark.
H
H
So
if
that
assessed
value
stays
at
that
a
thousand
dollars-
and
you
know
you
all
know
how
real
estate
goes-
things
go
up
and
down
but
say,
for
instance,
for
the
next
decade
it
stays
a
thousand
dollars
of
assessed
value.
So
over
the
course
of
the
10
years
that
this
bid
would
be
in
place.
This
property
owner
would
be
build
a
total
of
113
towards
the
services
that
the
bid
would
be
providing
just
for
an
example's
sake.
H
All
right.
So
once
again
just
a
reminder
of
the
properties
that
are
within
the
district
as
proposed
because
of
the
the
long
nature
of
this,
I
had
to
break
it
up
into
two
maps,
but
again
it's
all
the
way
from
line
to
broad
street.
Coincidentally,
it's
almost
as
many
parcels
as
the
johns
island
mid
at
545.
H
Here,
significantly,
less
acreage
is
involved,
as
you
might
imagine,
only
75,
just
under
75
and
a
half
acres
of
land
are
proposed
for
the
district,
so
the
improvement
plan.
So
the
improvement
plan
calls
for
about
a
million
plus
dollars
of
service
delivery
per
year
again
for
a
10-year
period.
It's
important
to
know
that
that
is
not
all
intended
to
come
from
the
assessment
dollars.
H
So
the
assessment's
about
60
of
the
proposed
budget
for
the
services
that
remaining
40
or
so
is
proposed
to
come
from
other
revenue,
so
in
that
would
include
requests
to
the
county
from
economic
development
dollars,
requests
to
the
city
for
specific
programming
dollars
and
then
other
sources
that
the
cda,
which
is
the
charleston
downtown
alliance,
may
go
after
such
as
revenue
from
leasing
out.
You
know
space
during
an
event,
fundraising
things
like
that,
so
that
million
dollars
per
year,
or
so
for
the
the
services
that
are
proposed
under
the
budget
plan.
H
Not
all
of
that
is
anticipated
to
come
from
the
assessment,
also
to
be
clear.
There's
no
bonds
associated
with
this
work.
So
if,
in
a
year,
if
revenues
are
down
for
the
bid,
the
services
that
will
be
able
to
be
delivered
would
be
down,
because
there's
no
bonding
capacity
proposed
for
this
bid.
It's
basically
you
eat
what
you
hunt
whatever
revenue.
H
Once
again,
our
public
service
team
excuse
me
does
an
amazing
job
with
the
resources
that
they
have
available
to
get
out
there,
but
we
all
know
that
the
need
is
greater
than
the
resources
that
we
currently
have
to
get
the
street
to
the
level
that
we
want
it
to
be
street
beautification
would
be
a
part
of
this.
There's
been
some
pilot
programs.
If
those
efforts
are
to
continue,
the
bid
would
be
one
way
to
to
continue
those
one
of
the
unique
things
that
you
see
in
bids
across
the
country
is
an
ambassador
program.
H
If
there's
a
maintenance
issue
being
able
to
you
know,
know
where
and
who
to
call
to
submit
that
work
order
right
then,
and
there,
instead
of
having
to
wait
for
an
inspection
period
to
come
around.
So
those
are
really
good
programs.
They
exist
in
almost
all
municipal
bids
that
you
do
see
around
the
country
very
useful.
H
Additionally
they're
looking
at
some
some
funding
to
do
some
street
and
holiday
programming,
then
there'd
be
some
advocacy
and
marketing
again
thinking
about
that
vacancy
conversation,
and
then
some
of
the
the
budget
that
they
have
set
aside
would
be
for
the
actual
management
of
the
bid,
because
it
will
require
some
staffing
to
coordinate
and
do
all
this
and
again,
that
would
be
the
cda's
responsibility.
That
is
not
the
city's
responsibility
under
this
proposal.
H
And
then,
finally,
so
the
next
steps,
so
this
is
the
public
hearing-
is
prescribed
by
statute
for
the
proposed
municipal
improvement
district
later
in
the
month
and
in
january,
we'll
have
the
actual
ordinance
to
create
this
district,
with
the
expectation
that
once
the
district
is
approved,
assuming
again
that
it
is
approved,
we
will
be
spending
the
first
quarter
of
next
year.
Working
on
these
other
things.
H
That
again,
the
statute
requires
the
the
distribution
of
the
assessment,
so
every
property
owner,
that's
in
the
district,
will
get
a
notice
one
confirming
for
them
that
they
are
in
the
district
and
then
telling
them
what
we
believe.
Their
assessment
would
be
publication
of
the
notice
that
the
district
has
been
approved,
hearing
of
objections
that
will
allow
anyone
once
they've
gotten
their
notice
to
come
to
the
council
and
say
I'm
appealing,
or
I
object
to
the
this
assessment
and
I'll
need
to
point
out.
H
You
know
what
the
flaw
or
the
deficiency
was
there
and
then.
Finally,
the
one
of
the
big
key
elements
that
we'll
be
working
on
in
that
first
quarter
is
the
memo
of
agreement
with
the
cda
on
the
management
of
the
bid
district.
Because
again,
the
city
has
a
responsibility
to
ensure
that
any
assessment
dollars
are
being
spent
properly
approving
that
budget.
H
A
G
I'm
back
I'm
doug
warner.
I
reside
at
45
pendleton
street
downtown
charleston
29403.
I
am
an
owner
and
represent
an
owner's
group
that
has
more
than
40
properties
on
king
street.
We
have
more
linear
frontage
than
anyone
else
and
probably
are
the
group
that
are
going
to
pay
more
collectively
than
anyone
else,
maybe
one
more
more
anyway.
G
We
wholeheartedly
support
this
effort,
we're
here
and
have
put
in
so
much
work,
because
we
are
certain
that
it
is
needed
to
provide
the
kind
of
king
street
experience
for
both
our
locals
or
visitors,
whether
they're
from
somerville
or
chicago.
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
couple
of
ideas
that
the
current
bid
would
represent.
467
parcels
of
those
241
would
pay
less
than
500
a
year.
G
Six
of
those
would
pay
more
than
25
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
95
would
pay
2500
or
less
so
that
gives
you
a
magnitude
of
what
robert
shared
with
you
again.
That
222
would
pay
less
than
a
thousand
dollars,
so
not
a
significant
expense,
but
definitely
something
that
a
world-class
city
like
charleston.
I
I
got
it,
but
look
we
we,
the
the
hotel,
was
purchased
as
a
long-term
family
investment,
an
investment
back
in
the
community
that
aims
to
provide
jobs
that
aims
to
provide
resurrection
where
it's
needed
on
king
street
meeting
street
market
street
areas
that
we
can
impact,
and
we
could
not
be
more
proud
to
support
this.
I
think
it's
well
timed
we
will
be.
We
do
have
a
significant
reinvestment
and
renovation
over
the
next
many
years
that
aims
to
just
bring
that
area
of
king
street
up
further
and
so
from
our
behalf.
I
J
Planet
enabling
that
deals
with
the
public
safety
and
the
gentleman
mentioned
the
unrest.
A
deep
concern
is
racial
profiling,
since
this
body
did
not
prove
the
inclusion
and
diversity
part
there.
There's
no
inclusion
in
diversity
by
this
body.
I'm
more
concerned
about
the
body,
not
the
business
owners
through
operating
good
faith
in
my
opinion,
but
I'm
deeply
concerned
about
the
million
dollars,
because
we
do.
We
still
have
a
deficit
of
some
money
here
because
for
10
years
so
guarantee
a
million
dollars
to
somebody.
You
don't
have
to
pay
now.
J
So
are
we
taxing
appropriately
where
these,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
have
to
pay
this
money
every
year
even
to
create
this
district?
At
all
I
mean
that's
on
them.
They
want
to
tax
themselves,
so
be
it,
but
as
a
resident
of
charleston
and
seen
a
you,
dag
funded
many
years
ago
for
charleston
place
used
on
the
backs
of
black
people
on
census,
tracts
on
black
folk
and
somebody
got
a
transfer
of
property
for
their
family
to
get
wealthy
at
the
expense
of
those
intended
beneficiaries-
and
you
came
in
here
today
to
salute
sarah,
green
and
others.
J
J
Ultimately,
he
benefited
no
disrespect
but
know
your
history.
We
want
our
kids
being
racially
profiled
downtown
with
this
money,
because
if
somebody
spends
the
money
they
can
tell
the
police
chief,
we
don't
want
these
black
folk
downtown.
No
more
so
do
everything
you
can
to
keep
them
from
the
city
of
charleston.
So
we
can
make
us
money.
B
We
see
this
project
that
we're
a
part
of
as
additional
support
and
another
tool,
as
robert
mentioned
in
in
your
weapons,
to
to
make
things
better
for
king
street.
So
we
are
out
there
to
say
that
we're
we're
going
to
pay
whatever
fees.
We
need
to
pay
to
help
this
we're
going
to
support
this
in
every
way,
but
we
think
it's
a
really
good
thing
for
the
business
owners,
the
livability,
the
viability
of
king
street,
which
makes
everything
better.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
K
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
members
of
council,
my
name
is
brian
turner,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
preservation
society
of
charleston,
and
we
are
a
proud
business
owner
and
property
owner
on
king
street
147,
king
and
proud
to
be
among
the
diverse
set
of
stakeholders
here
tonight.
Supporting
this
initiative.
K
We
urge
your
support
to
increase
the
funding
for
improvements
and
beautification
to
our
built
heritage
on
king
street.
This
commercial
stretch
is
one
of
the
most
significant.
If
not
it's
one
of
the
most
significant
commercial
retail
districts
in
the
country
with
over
180
contributing
historic
buildings.
The
city's
success
is
tied
to
king
street's.
Success,
which
is
now
at
a
crossroads.
K
Funding
for
this
focused
and
dedicated
management
will
be
critical
for
ensuring
sustainable
tourism
and
livability
in
the
city's
central
business
district
and
last
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
twice
a
year.
The
preservation
society
puts
out
our
preservation
progress,
a
hot
off
the
press
is
this
issue
which
is
focused
entirely
on
king
street,
and
talk
about
these
points
I
just
mentioned.
I
hope
you
all
have
the
chance
to
to
look
through
it,
and
what
we
really
try
to
express
here
is
that
how
king
street
is
more
than
just
a
collection
of
individual
buildings.
K
F
F
B
B
Visitors
deserve
better
than
what
they're
getting
now
we
have
local
customers
who
no
longer
feel
safe
visiting
king
street.
We
get
calls
like
that
every
week,
every
property
owner
and
we
have
gone
door
to
door,
to
talk
to
people
who
rent
their
building
to
people
that
own
their
building
to
people
that
live
in
the
buildings.
Every
single
one
of
them
is
willing
to
chip
in
and
create
a
private
and
public
partnership
so
that
they
pay
their
part
and
do
their
part
and
meet
the
city
halfway
to
ensuring.
A
I
I
like
the
idea,
but
we
must
understand.
We
can't
create
another
board
to
the
city
council
can't
overrule
and
the
mayor
can't
open.
So
we
got
to
be
very
careful.
The
way
how
you
give
away
your
authority
and
make
sure
that
we
have
transparency
in
the
whole
product
now
I
know
it
starts
from
lime
street
going
downtown,
but
the
ticking
point
is
from
lion
street
up
to
romilly
street
is
being
left
out.
I
I
My
name
is
gary
flynn,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
ceo
of
m
dumas
and
sons
on
king
street,
I'm
from
I'm
three
zero,
zero
four
ashburton
way
in
mount
pleasant.
Two,
two,
nine
four,
six,
six
myself.
I've
been
fortunate
enough
to
be
a
part
of
the
king
street
corridor.
Now
for
just
about
six
years
and
covid
was
quite
an
experience
for
all
of
us.
I
K
I
Makes
us
go
and
if
there's
any
alteration
in
the
way
our
customers
perceive
king
street
they've
got
other
choices.
You
know
greenville's
going
memphis
is
going,
austin
is
going.
We
need
to
continue
to
keep
charleston
special,
unique
and
wonderful
and
we
will
continue
to
thrive,
and
you
know
our
taxes
will
continue
to
drive
charleston.
Thank
you.
A
C
H
Yes,
sir,
yes
ma'am,
so
this
is
the
public
hearing
on
the
concept
as
authorized
by
the
resolution.
The
ordinance
will
be
back
on
ideally
on
the
21st,
we're
still
tweaking
a
couple
of
things,
but
it
will
be
back
in
the
next
meeting
meeting
after
that.
Absolutely
if,
for
some
reason
we
don't
meet
the
21st
we
should
meet,
we
should.
A
C
One
person
said
to
express
their
thanks
to
council
members,
shade
and
jackson,
and
also
city
council
for
working
to
ensure
that
primary
residents,
real
properties
taxed
at
the
four
percent
rate
within
the
king
street
bid
were
not
assessed
as
part
of
the
improvement
district.
She
said
she
supported
the
bid
as
a
positive
means
of
maintaining
and
enhancing
the
queen
street
retail
environment,
and
those
are
all
the
comments
that
we
receive.
I
I
Because,
as
a
small
business
owner
myself,
I
have
seen
the
development
creeping
up
that
way,
and
you
know
in
five
years
that
is
going
to
be
the
heart
of
of
downtown
it's
moving
up.
So
I'm
I'm
just
for
the
record
making
making
this
as
a
comment
about
potentially
thinking
about
bringing
that
line
up
to
romney
street
or
some
some
delineation
up
king
street,
because
it's
development
is
certainly
up
that
way.
A
B
H
So
it's
not
quite
as
simple
as
an
amendment
to
the
ordinance.
What
ends
up
happening
is
we
have
to
do
this
process
again
forever
for
all
the
properties
that
we
would
include
further.
So
we
once
again
we
do
a
resolution
saying
that
council
is
initiating
this
process.
We
do
a
public
hearing
that
would
be
for
the
properties
that
we'd
now
be,
including
in
the
district
and
then
we'd
initiate
a
new
ordinance
for
the
inclusion
of
those
properties.
They
can
be
a
part
of
the
king
street
bid
or
they
could
be
king
street
bid.
B
H
L
My
problem
is
that
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
what's
going
on
now,
but
you're
proposing,
but
even
to
extend
that
we're
talking
about
my
colleague
is
talking
about
on
king
street.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
community
that's
budding.
Those
particular
that
brian
king
street
would
I
represent,
which
is
the
allegarity
cannonball
racquetball
and
everything,
and
all
the
other
places
that
they're
aware
of
this
to
make
sure
that
they
know
what's
going
on
even
to
extend
it.
I
live
on
king
street.
L
So
if
these,
if
you
extend
it,
the
homeowner
is
going
to
be
affected
by
this
too
just
to
the
businesses,
because
we
have
businesses
coming
if
they
extend
it
down
to
houston
street
or
to
romney
street.
So,
like
mr
lawrence
says,
you've
got
acf
in
the
ice
because
we
have
a
lot
of
businesses
that
are
growing
there
now
on
king
street,
which
it
stands
there.
L
So
if
they
even
expand
that
I
just
want
to
be
with
the
effect
that
it's
going
to
be
and
not
pushing
people
out
of
the
community
out
of
the
city
itself.
So
we
have
to
be
very
careful
about
doing
that
and
that's
one
thing,
I'm
concerned
about
very
carefully
the
way
king
street
is
from
the
king
street.
L
I
knew
about
it
coming
up,
it's
gone
now,
but
you
know
we
have
to
still
be
very
careful
that
we
still
we
talk
about
diversity
and
making
sure
the
community
stays
that
way
that
we're
all
in
this
together,
just
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
overrun,
and
you
know
kind
of
push
people
out-
that
they
can't
even
be
able
to
afford
to
see
nowhere
wrong
in
the
city
of
charleston,
which
is
coming
to
that
point
that
I
see
so
I'm
very
concerned
about
that.
So
I'm
looking
at
it
very
carefully
and
that's
that
point.
A
Thank
you
just
to
address
one
point,
though,
and
councilmember
mitchell.
You
make
a
good
example,
because
if
you
were
in
the
district
living
on
king
street
but
you're
a
four
percent
homeowner,
you
would
not
be
included.
You
would
not
be
included
with
the
extra
assessment.
It
would
not
apply
to
the
homeowner
properties
in
that
correct
right.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
even
the
budding.
L
Community
to
king
street
that
the
residents
would
be
you
know,
aware
of
it,
be
having
problems
now
with
people
talking
to
community
and
having
this
and
all.
That
is
the
area
that
I
represent,
like
early
bird
cannonball,
we're
talking
about
phillip
street,
making
sure
that
neighborhood
president
there's
aware
of
this
going
on
so
they'll
know,
what's
happening
even
going
over
to
music
right
bars.
You
know
in
this
particular
area
that
they
know
what's
happening
with
this.
This
is
a
plan.
A
L
A
E
E
I
I
think
it's
going
to
have
some
challenges,
but
my
goodness,
nothing
compared
to
what's
happened
over
the
course
of
the
last
600
days,
and
it's
really
amazing
to
me
that,
as
you
walk
up
and
down
king
street
today,
what
a
rebound
we
have
seen.
I
mean
you
know
talk
about
leading
the
league
in
rebounds.
It
is
the
businesses
in
that
corridor.
Every
business
has
been
hit,
but
that
corridor
is
crazy
and
y'all.
E
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
it,
but
you
know
we
geofence
king
street,
and
when
we
shut
everything
down
on
march
16th
or
march
17th
of
2020,
the
traffic
on
king
street
went
from
20
30
45
000
people
a
day
to
effectively
zero
zero.
They
have
rebuilt
from
the
ground
up
again
and
the
extent
that
you
can
go
and
convince
property
owners
in
the
city
of
charleston
have
been
here
some
generationally.
Some
recent
investors
to
tax
themselves
is
really
saying
something.
It's
difficult
to
get.
E
Those
of
us
around
this
table
to
vote
to
raise
taxes,
sometimes
more
difficult
than
others,
but
it's
hard
to
do
and
and
for
you
all,
I
just
say
congratulations.
I
do
think
that
some
of
the
comments
around
this
table
are
worth
thinking
about
clearly
going
north
of
line
street.
I'm
looking
at
doug
because
he's
been
doing
so
much
work
on
this.
That's
got
its
own
complications
because
there's
a
lot
more
people
that
actually
live
on
the
street,
but
there
are
businesses
that
clearly
affect
the
street.
E
There's
the
restaurant
areas
up
there
up
by
8th
street
and,
like
that,
it's
pretty
it's
pretty
compacted
in
there
and
anything
you
all
can
do
and
the
other
thing
I
don't
want
to
take
too
much
time.
But
y'all
are
here
so
I
I
heard
a
really
fascinating
lecture
about
four
years
ago
about
king
street
and
the
concept
of
king
street
and
how
it
was
built
and
developed
and
grew,
and
it
was
built,
developed
and
grown
as
a
commercial
corridor
for
daytime
businesses.
E
Essentially,
people
went
there
to
shop
retail
or
to
have
lunch
at
the
counter.
There
wasn't
a
lot
of
late
night
activity.
In
fact,
on
upper
king
street
there
was
no
late
late
night
activity
right
right.
It
was
a
daytime
retail
corridor
that
was
sort
of
our
shopping
district,
well
fast
forward,
fast
forward
to
today
and
really
the
last
10
years.
E
I
have
no
doubt
that
that's
true.
I
think
we
might
have
lost
our
way
about
that
for
a
little
while
resources
on
king
street
are
super
important,
but
as
you
conceive
about
how
you're
going
to
augment
it,
please
please
think
about
that.
Nighttime
conundrum
night
time
on
king
street
is
different,
very
different
and
it's
not
necessarily
clean,
safe
and
beautiful
right.
E
I
went
up
there
on
saturday
night,
it
was
happening
and
there
were
people
making
money,
but
I
don't
think
I
would
have
described
what
I
saw
as
beautiful.
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
sense
around
this
table
some
support
for
this.
I've
certainly
pledged
my
support
and
I'm
going
to
continue
to
support
this.
E
I
hope
that
we
partner
together
in
a
way
that
every
year
when
we
come
back-
and
I
think
we're
going
to
come
back
every
year
and
hear
a
report
on
how
it's
going-
you
all
keep
continuing
to
tell
us
how
great
this
bid
is
going,
because
we
will
know
through
ms
wharton's
office,
how
successful
you
are
and
how
we're
doing
in
our
conference.
It's
good
business
for
the
city
for
y'all's
business
to
succeed
beyond
your
wildest
dreams.
E
If,
if
doing
this,
and
taking
a
little
money
out
of
your
pocket
on
the
front,
end
gives
you
a
tenfold
return,
that's
good
for
the
city
too!
So
go
forward
and
prosper
recognizing
that
we
need
some
help,
particularly
in
that
nighttime
corridor,
with
cleaning
trash
pickup
all
that
stuff
and
make
king
street
clean,
safe
and
beautiful,
24
7,
365
and
we'll
have
really
done
something
together
through
a
public
private
partnership
that
we've
never
done
before,
and
the
king
street
that
we
knew
back
in
the
day.
That
was
a
place
to
go
shopping.
E
That's
now
changed
tonight,
we'll
say
the
same
thing
about
the
night
time
that
we've
really
gotten
our
hands
around
it
and
made
it
a
place
where
all
of
us
who
live
here
want
to
go
and
that's
the
challenge.
So
I
think
we
have
the
right
team,
both
sitting
over
there
and
sitting
over
here
and
sitting
around
this
table,
and
if
we
all
work
together,
we
will
have
done
something
really
that
I
think
we
can
all
be
proud
of
so
go
forward
prosper.
I
look
forward
to
supporting
it.
E
I
look
forward
to
hearing
a
lot
about
it.
Please
report
to
us
how
this
is
going
and
report
to
us
how
those
who
have
been
a
little
skeptical
about
it
are
learning
to
live
with
it.
Okay,
so
with
that,
it's
a
long
talk
or
something
we're
not
even
going
to
vote
on,
but
I'm
one
of
those
council
members
who
does
touch
on
king
street
and
I
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
it.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
M
N
M
And
they're
agreeing
to
do
this,
so
I
salute
you
but
get
back
to
council
members
mitchell's
point
about
residences
on
king
street,
or
in
that
case
above
king
street,
that
are
not
owner
occupants
but
are
affordable
housing
units.
For
example,
if
rich
guru
owns
a
couple
of
apartments
on
king
street,
he's
going
to
be
assessed
at
six
percent
and
if
he
rents
to
the
those
units
to
folks
to
the
housing
authority,
then
they're
gonna
be,
as
I
understand
it,
a
part
of
this
increase.
M
I
don't
want
the
unintended
consequence
for
the
affordable
units,
workforce
development,
housing,
future
developments
that
come
up
with
fee
and
lou
instead
of
paying
the
fee
in
lieu,
actually
have
the
affordable
units
on
site.
I
don't
want
those
units
they
have
to
get
caught
up
in
an
increase
in
price,
because
we
go
at
extensive
efforts
in
this
city
to
create
affordable
housing.
It
is
hugely
difficult
even
compared
to
the
tasks
that
you
all
have
as
a
business
community.
I
don't
say
you
all:
have
we.
N
M
As
a
business
community
but
try
creating
affordable
housing
and
a
rising
market
like
charleston
south
carolina,
so
because
a
property
is
assessed
at
six
percent,
if
they
can
prove
these
units
are
being
rented
to
the
housing
authority
and
they
own
the
section
eight
program
or
it's
workforce
development
house.
All
these
units
were
created
the
developer,
passed
on
the
fee
and
loop
and
said
we're
going
to
have
those
affordable
units
on
site.
M
A
A
M
Sir,
the
parking
piece
as
this,
and
I
think
it
will
be
successful-
all
street
parking
in
these
neighborhoods.
Somehow
we
all
need
to
collectively
think
of
some
sort
of
solution
to
help
out
with
that,
I
don't
know
whether
we
get
some
other
lots
that
we
can
lease
for
availability
for
parking,
but
with
increased
popularity.
M
O
I
come
from
a
little
bit
different
perspective
on
king
street
because
of
my
family's
history
and
councilman,
where
she
kingdom
would
correct
you
a
little
bit,
because
when
my
family
store
was
operating
on
king
street,
it
was
open
all
hours
at
night,
because
there
was
a
need
to
make
money
for
them,
and
my
father
used
to
stray
some
kid.
They
can't
meaning
from
as
soon
as
they
could
as
soon
as
they
couldn't.
They
were
out
there
making
money.
They
lived
above
the
store.
O
In
helen's
statement
about
king
street
being
the
jewel
of
charleston
and
the
jewel
of
the
state
is
not
an
exaggeration,
because
when
you
go
around
and
look
at
other
main
streets
of
south
carolina,
you
will
not
find
anything
like
king
street
anywhere
else
in
the
state,
because
several
people
did
live
and
we've
come
back
a
little
bit
to
this
part
of
residences
being
above.
These
merchants
stores-
and
it
was
a
very
vibrant,
very
active
community
and
balls
came
in
in
the
60s
and
70s
and
killed
it.
O
King
street
has
been
up
and
down
out
like
a
yo-yo
and
we've
seen
that
over
time-
and
I
remember
meeting
with
several
of
the
merchants-
and
I
walked
king
street
after
the
the
may
riot
as
to
their
concerns
their
fears
and
their
their
anger
as
to
what
was
going
on
on
king
street.
The
one
thing
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
and
about
king
street,
and
this
this
bid
and
all
alliance
with
the
city.
O
We
need
to
be
focusing
on
king
street
as
to
making
it
much
more
attractive
for
locals.
That's
what
it
was
designed
for
us
council
members
brought
out
earlier
and
we
need
to
bring
it
back,
make
it
safe
and
secure
and
attractive
for
us
to
enjoy
and
take
part
in,
and
while
I'm
talking
about
the
kind
of
revitalization,
you
know
that
I'm
talking
about
also
revitalizing
wes,
actually
in
the
business
corridors
and
duplicating
this
model
for
parts
of
avondale,
rittenberg,
st
andrews
and
exactly
this
is
your
mars
reed.
O
O
You
know
my
support
on
this
thing
and
we've
got
some
things
that
we
may
need
to
tweak
a
little
bit,
but
I
think
the
public
just
needs
to
appreciate
the
historical
component
of
this
and
the
huge
economic
significance
of
king
street
what
it
means
to
the
city
of
charleston
and
it's
not
just
located
to
the
peninsula.
It
is
citywide
of
the
impact
that
this
area
has
to
all
of
us.
Thank
you.
P
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
I'll,
be
brief
here
famous
word:
I'm
going
to
try
to
own
up
to
that
this
evening,
much
like
councilman
shead,
both
sides
of
my
family
and
the
circles
and
morrison
was
my
great
grandfather.
Joe
sokol
was
my
grandfather
and
I
just
wanted
to
tell
all
the
property
owners
and
merchants
that
if
he
was
still
alive,
he
would
have
been
here
tonight,
he's
proud
of
him
and
he
would
have
been
thrilled.
A
So
I
won't
go
on
long,
but
all
this
conversation
brings
up
lots
of
memories.
For
me-
and
I
don't
know
if
many
of
y'all
know
this
part
of
my
family's
history,
but
my
great
grandfather
livingston
had
a
shoe
store
on
on
king
street
right
near
burns
alley,
and
my
grandmother
grew
up
on
the
second
and
third
floor
above
the
store
and
the
only
other
time
that
might
have
been
worse
than
the
last
year
and
a
half
with
cobra.
A
He
lost
his
business
during
the
depression
in
the
1930s,
and
that
was
a
rough
time
for
a
lot
of
businesses
everywhere
in
the
country.
But
I
also
recall
working
for
mayor
riley
in
the
90s
and
then
when,
when
robert
was
talking
about
how
this
idea
actually
went
back
to
the
plan
back
in
1977
and
then
again
with
the
downtown
plan.
That's
when
I
was
working
for
the
city
in
the
late
90s.
A
I
I
went
to
baltimore
to
study
what
they
were
doing
in
a
business
improvement
district
so
that
we
could
hopefully
bring
one
here
one
day,
and
so
I
want
to
tip
my
hat
and
thank
all
of
you,
members
of
the
downtown
alliance
and
the
other
property
owners
who
have
agreed
to
be
a
part
of
this
to
finally
make
this
happening.
But
I
got
to
mention
one
staff,
member
who's,
who
really
deserves
some
credit,
and
you
know
who
that
is,
is
meg
thompson
over
there.
A
D
And
thank
you
everyone
and
I
certainly
I
guess
I
would
just
say
that
I'm
an
envious
resident
of
james
island
in
the
way
that
the
business
community
works
together,
plans
together,
visions
together
we're
trying
to
do
something
very
modest
in
comparison
with
rethink
folly
road
and
it's
it's
really
not
easy
to
bring
people
out
of
their
their
business
framework.
I
I
was
married
to
a
small
business
owner
all
right,
I'm
still
married
to
him,
but
he's
no
longer
a
small
business
owner.
Thank
god.
B
D
You
know
being
able
to
work
with
all
of
the
big
and
the
little
and
the
in
between.
I,
I
think,
is
a
hallmark
of
the
way
that
the
central
business
district
came
together
and
miss
thompson
was
their
cheerleader
and
never
said
die.
So
for
all
of
that,
I
think
it's
a
wonderful
accomplishment
and
I
do
hope
that
the
ordinance
goes
forward
and
I
do
hope
that
we
continue
to
make
it
iterative
and
redefined
in
other
logical
and
exciting
places.
I
I
am.
D
We
did
not
vote
as
a
council
to
receive
the
full
report
from
the
commission
on
equity,
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation,
and
I
think
that,
because
we
did
not
do
that
as
a
body,
that's
a
vacuum
that
you
know
the
proof
is
in
the
pudding.
Obviously,
and
so
we
have
no
intention.
I've
never
even
consider
that
anyone
on
the
cda
or
now
the
new
groups
that
are
going
to
be
working
on
the
improvements
to
keep
the
city,
the
king
street,
safe
and
beautiful
and
clean,
would
even
think
about.
D
I'm
I'm
thrilled
that
we,
you
know,
put
our
ore
in
the
water
with
lowcountry
local
first
as
a
resourcing
organization.
That's
already
gone
many
miles
ahead
of
us
in
training,
minority
women
in
particular
to
start
up
business,
and
I
hope
that
we
take
that
challenge
seriously.
So,
thank
you,
mr
bryant.
I
really
appreciate
it.
A
A
A
Q
Q
They
started
with
a
deficit
and
really
had
to
make
some
difficult
decisions
and
developing
the
priorities
that
are
presented
before
you
tonight
in
the
budget
and
on
behalf
of
historic
charleston.
I
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
your
hard
work
and
for
presenting
a
budget
that
reflects
some
preservation
priorities
for
historic
charleston
foundation.
Q
First,
a
water
plan,
a
comprehensive
citywide
water
plan.
We're
really
excited
about
this.
This
is
something
that
was
recommended
in
the
dutch
dialogue
charleston
and
most
recently
was
requested
and
recommended
by
the
3x3
army
corps
three
by
three
citizens
advisory
committee.
Second,
is
a
zoning
funds
will
support
a
zoning
overhaul,
an
elevation-based
ending
overhaul.
Another
dutch
dialogues
supported
recommendation.
Q
Third,
is
a
new
downtown
plan.
The
last
downtown
plan
was
written
in
1999.
It
basically
stopped
parallel
with
where
the
cab
river
bridges
are
now.
We
all
know
that
the
downtown
is
a
lot
larger
than
that.
Now
it's
time
for
a
new
vision,
there
have
been
a
lot
of
economic,
demographic,
social,
environmental
changes
that
that
need
to
be
reflected
in
a
new
plan
and,
lastly,
the
addition
of
a
of
a
preservation
planner
to
support
the
planning
department.
This
was
a
a
priority
for
the
plenty
department
staff.
Q
This
position
has
been
sorely
needed
for
years,
both
just
to
enforce
city
ordinances,
but
also
to
enforce
decisions
made
by
bar
staff
and
bar
board
members,
and-
and
this
is,
I
think,
a
really
great
addition
to
the
planning
department
staff
going
forward
again
we're
very
grateful.
Thank
you.
I
encourage
you
to
include
these
as
you
finalize
the
budget.
J
I
reckon
correct
for
the
record
I
want
to
thank.
I'm
gonna
miss
her
for
my
passion.
Jackson
will
miss
her
she's,
a
really
good
sister,
her
heart's
in
the
right
place.
The
sister
of
the
brotherhood
is
not,
you
know,
measured
just
based
upon
who
our
skin,
but
on
the
commitment
and
our
actions
in
our
own
lives.
That's
what
my
father
taught
me,
but
to
be
real
about
being
blacks.
J
J
I
don't
know
why
the
municipal
association
is
saying:
we
ain't,
got
no
money
and
give
us
some
money,
and
the
bottom
line
is
until
the
mississippi
association,
the
city
councils
and
county
councils
countries.
The
state
says
we
need
to
get
some
money
and
don't
spend
our
money,
because
we
ain't
gotten
that
I
think
that's
the
problem.
I
see
with
the
budgetary
process.
The
buck
gets
passed
to
the
local
folks
and
it
comes
a
time
where
local
folks
have
to
speak
up
for
themselves.
J
J
B
J
A
B
K
K
Staff
support
has
to
keep
pace,
to
assist
homeowners
and
foster
greater
awareness
of
these
places
to
our
communities.
I
want
to
thank
councilman
saccharin
councilman
gregory
we've
joined
recently
in
conversations
about
the
need,
especially
north
of
lyon
street,
for
growing
awareness
of
regulation
and
how
how
and
why
it's
important
to
maintain
design
consistency.
K
A
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I'm
I'm
persuaded
that
paid
family
likely
is
a
dead
horse,
so
I'm
not
going
to
flock
it
any
longer,
and
I
won't
be
here
to
be
that
voice.
I
do
hope
that
in
the
future
years,
councilmember
shade
suggested
at
our
at
our
last
meeting
when
we
were
first
discussing
the
budget
hearing
the
ad
hoc
committee's
recommendation
or
the
mayor's
recommendation
to
the
council,
that
it's
still
a
good
idea,
it's
still
a
good
idea,
so
I
really
want
to
put
that
out
there.
D
I
think
the
human
resources
committee
responded
to
what
the
full
council
resolved
two
years
ago,
when,
obviously
our
finances
were
a
whole
lot
more
optimistic
and-
and
you
know
less,
there
was
less
mystery
about
where
our
revenues
are
going
to
come
from,
but
it's
still
a
good
idea
and
the
fact
that
we
can't
prove
it
to
ourselves
because
we
don't
have
any
statistics
it's
sort
of
like
you
know
nothing
ventured
nothing
gained.
So
I
really
do
hope
that
a
future
council
will
take
it
seriously
and
institute
a
paid
life.
D
I
just
happened
to
have
a
more
casual
conversation
with
our
city
clerk
last
week
and
I
found
out
that
she
needed
to
sacrifice
a
very
small
amount
of
money,
but
a
very
important
function
to
the
clerk's
office
in
in
having
to
drop
the
agenda
management
software.
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
actually
the
title
of
it.
D
M
M
M
A
A
J
You
had
the
public
hearing
in
west
ashley,
so
no
one
could
go
come
to
that
public
hearing
to
be
heard,
but
the
people
be
impacted
by
that
zoning
by
that
zoning,
because
local
local
zoning,
local
ordinances
is
zoning
and
that's
police
power
that
police
power
be
supported
and
fortified
by
the
federal
government,
with
a
very,
very
serious
u.s
attorney
that
don't
really
like
black
people.
I
I
went
over
there
in
the
bond
courts
and
hearings
and
heard
a
lot
for
the
past
year.
The
school
of
prison
pipeline
is
real
in
south
carolina.
J
There's
nothing
but
african-american
young
people
going
in
and
out
there
like
shadow
slavery
and
many
are
not
educated
at
all
by
these
school
districts
that
have
failed
them
that
have
failed
them
and
placed
them
in
pins.
For
many
many
years
now,
this
city
council
to
go
talk
to
the
school
district
right
now
about
their
reading.
J
Skill
sets
math
skill
sets
of
black
children
to
be
a
priority
right
now,
because
they're
going
in
prison
with
nothing
when
they
come
out,
they
got
nothing
and
they're
being
used
by
some
shady
police
officers
in
this
community
that'll
be
exposed.
Through
these
public
hearings.
We
need
the
public
hearings
in
our
community
housing
director
new
director.
We
will
not
have
the
68
70,
84,
86
and
94
crime
bill,
sending
our
children
to
federal
state
prison.
That's
out.
We
need
transparency
with
these
public
hearings.
The
justice
department.
I
Good
evening
scott
manetta
975
provincial
circle
mount
pleasant
before
I
get
to
begin
to
speak
I'd
like
to
ask
that
I
can
defer
my
time
we're
here
as
a
group
of
four
people
that
would
like
to
speak
on
the
same
message
and
in
the
essence
of
a
less
wrinkled
message.
I'd
like
to
just
defer
my
time
to
zach.
P
We
have
seen
its
growth
and
immense
potential,
and
I
applaud
the
transportation
committee's
recent
decisions
to
enhance
the
program
and
reconfigure
king
street
to
improve
pedestrian
access
and
safety.
It's
interesting
that
tonight
was
the
bid
program
and
you
spoke
a
lot
about
equity,
while
some
trivialize
or
denigrate
the
pedicab
business.
The
reality
is
that
green
transportation
and
last
mile
travel
are
at
the
forefront
of
the
industry
or
of
industry
and
climate
change
initiatives.
P
Only
days
ago,
the
biden
administration
unlocked
billions
of
dollars
in
grants
through
the
rebuilding
american
infrastructure,
with
sustainability
and
equity
program,
and
while
we
do
not
intend
on
chasing
those
grants
today,
our
company
palmetto
bike
cab
is
primed
to
live
that
dream
and
drastically
reduce
greenhouse
emissions
and
miles
traveled
by
car
prior
to
coming.
Here
today,
I
diligently
worked
as
a
teacher
and
while
our
learning
was
related
to
imperatives
and
infinitives,
I
always
encourage
my
students
to
discuss
two
concepts,
passion
and
fairness
and
today-
and
the
people
before
me
are
speaking
on
that
matter.
P
N
All
right,
jay,
thomas
1904,
dasher
avenue.
Yes,
sir,
despite
the
hurdles,
our
ownership
team
invested
countless
hours
and
close
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
pursuit
of
this
goal.
Yet
in
our
application
we
could
not
even
overcome
one
detail:
the
storage
location,
not
knowing
whether
we
would
be
given
the
chance
to
even
bid.
We
waited
to
secure
a
legally
binding
lease
on
a
property.
N
Despite
the
imprecise
nature
of
the
rfp
and
our
mistake
with
the
address,
our
company
did
receive
a
pre-approval
and
we
were
invited
to
bid
one
month
ago,
on
november
5th
days
later,
however,
our
company
received
additional
scrutiny,
scrutiny
not
applied
to
the
incumbents
in
regard
to
the
monopolistic
control
and
practice,
and
we
were
disqualified
from
bidding
in
our
initial
in
our
initial
grievance.
We
showed
the
control
and
practice,
and
we
were
I'm
sorry
in
our
initial
agreements.
N
We
showed
the
procurement
division
documents
indicating
where
we
had
obtained
a
lease
and
we
would
be
operating
in
compliance
of
all
city
rules
and
regulations.
However,
our
grievance
was
declined
and
we
have
been
unable
to
bid
thus
far.
More
importantly,
the
city
is
aware
of
these
inconsistencies
and
is
choosing
to
ignore
them.
E
C
C
C
E
Sorry,
you
have
the
chance
sure
you
have
the
chance
to
fix
this,
to
allow
competition
and
to
support
your
constituents
in
their
effort
to
improve
their
lives
and
the
lives
of
fellow
charlestonians.
To
be
clear,
we
are
not
asking
to
be
given
anything.
We
are
not
asking
for
others
to
be
disqualified
for
consideration.
E
B
K
B
You
know
from
time
to
time
there
may
be
procurement
issues
and
coming
to
city
council
to
do
this
is
not
you
know,
probably
the
best
place
to
do
this.
Is
there
not
a
way
that
these
gentlemen,
if
they
do,
have
a
process
or
is
there
a
way
that
they
can
reach
out
to
an
ombudsman,
or
somebody
else
to
you
know,
maybe
get
a
more
clear
picture
as
to
why
their
bid
was
denied?
P
R
Good
evening,
good
evening,
mayor
council,
I'm
an
employee
for
the
city
of
charleston.
I
work
with
the
environmental
service
department
making
turns
I'm
a
garbage
man,
I'm
honored
to
work
for
y'all.
All
of
y'all
in
this
room
are
my
boss,
I'm
doing
the
pandemic.
We
had
some
shoes.
Many
of
us
got
sick.
Some
of
y'all
was
able
to
work
from
home.
We
wasn't.
We
had
to
go
out
there
and
pick
up
that
trash.
R
Unfortunately,
the
ones
that
got
sick
didn't
know
they
were
sick
and
we
became
a
spreader.
Everyone
in
the
apartment
in
my
department
got
sick
because
we
was
in
trucks
where
two
or
three
people
had
to
ride
together.
I
personally
watched
real
bad.
I
defecated
on
myself.
I
couldn't
get
out
the
bed.
I
went
through
a
lot
when
I
got
sick.
R
Well,
I
ended
up
trying
to
reach
out
to
certain
councilmen.
I
was
able
to
get
with
mitchell.
Mr
griffin,
I
tried
to
get
in
touch
with
mr
warren,
but
unfortunately
I
didn't
finally
got
to
speak
to
the
man
and
we
sat
down
and
we
talked
and
my
frustration
got
the
best
of
me.
I
didn't
want
to
lose
my
job,
but
I
wanted
to
be
heard.
He
listened
to
me
set
up
a
meet
with
director
o'brien
and
my
supervisor,
my
superintendent,
I'm
shaking
a
little
bit.
I
got
a
bad
leg.
R
I
should
pretend
matt
all
time
and
we
sat
and
I
could
not
believe
how
much
y'all
cared
about
what
we
was
going
through.
No
one
never
took
a
time
out
to
call
the
our
department
say:
fellas
we
care
about
you
all,
so
I
got
to
speak
with
them
and
it
turned
out
to
be
wonderful
and
y'all
gave
away
so
many
awards
in
here
tonight.
R
I
wish
I
could
give
you
all
one,
because
what
we
went
through
and
what
we
go
through
every
day,
what
the
garbage
people
don't
want
to
put
in
your
bag
feces
following
us.
Now
you
pick
up,
which
is
good.
You
pick
up
the
doo-doo
off
for
the
dogs,
you
put
them
in
there
that
stuff
splashes
in
our
face
and
all
kind
of
stuff,
but
I
really
wanted
to
thank
you
all,
because
I
thought
you
all
didn't
care
and
I
found
out
that
y'all
did
and
miss
jackson
you're.
R
Looking
at
me,
yes,
I
am
the
one
who
picks
up
your
trash
that
we
left.
Yes,
man
and
I
didn't
even
know
she
was
a
counselor.
This
woman
spoke
to
me.
Her
house
consists
of
two
sides.
She
spoke
to
me
with
so
much
respect
made
me
feel
like
I
was
doing
all
my
job
was
worth
it.
I
take
pride
and
I'm
a
garbage
man.
R
Yes,
ma'am,
yes,
you
did.
I
just
wanted
to
come
to
tell
you
we're
part
of
the
city.
We
don't
wear
the
suits.
You
see
how
I'm
dressed,
but
I
love
you
all
for
what
you
all
do
for
us
and
I
can't
give
you
all
the
award
or
I
will
one
last
thing
last,
I'm
gonna
be
real.
Quick
with
this.
Martin
luther
king
had
a
speech,
and
he
said
if
you're
gonna
be
a
street
sweeper
be
the
best
one
you
can.
R
F
It
is
nice
to
be
back
in
this
lovely
historical
setting
where
so
many
things
take
place
and
many
of
them
very
empowering
for
our
citizens.
So
I
would
just
like
to
take
this
time
to
say
thank
you
to
city
council,
I'm
gonna,
miss
carol,
I'm
gonna
miss
harry
okay.
Thank
you,
mayor
chucklingberg.
I
want
to
thank
kailyn.
I
don't
know
if
she's
here
tonight,
I
really
want
to
thank
kevin
shealy.
F
I
have
worn
that
man
out
this
year
with
pulling
him
in
to
all
sorts
of
sister
city
initiatives,
and
he
has
been
there
always
okay,
hats
off
to
kevin,
so
this
poor
man
needs
some
help
next
year.
Okay,
so
I
do
want
to
thank
peter
and
ross
and
mike
and
harry
for
your
current
help
with
programs,
and
we
have
a
lot
on
the
books
for
next
year.
F
So
I
would
like
to
reach
out
to
y'all
after
the
holidays
and
some
of
you
before,
to
see
where
your
interests
might
lie
in
in
helping
with
our
programming
internationally
for
the
coming
year.
Okay,
we'd
be
honored
and
delighted,
and
for
you
all
to
represent
us
and
pick
programs
that
you
think
are
are
appropriate,
and
I
would
like
to
leave
close
this
out
with
one
last
remark
and
that
this
has
been
a
wild
and
challenging
and
scary
year
at
times.
F
But
there's
been
a
lot
of
positives
too,
and
I
have
to
say
that
our
sister
city
partnership
with
doha,
I
was
very
proud
of
their
efforts
in
the
afghanistan
evacuation,
how
they
stepped
up
their
role
in
that,
as
they
continue
to
do.
What
they're
doing
they've
been
our
friend
and
in
2020
they
gave
us
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
corona
relief
supplies.
F
50
of
it
went
to
the
city
and
50
000
of
it
went
to
the
county
and
they
continued
to
approach
us
with
wonderful
opportunities,
they're
hosting
the
fifa
psych
soccer
tournament,
this
coming
year
and
they're,
offering
all
sorts
of
programming
for
our
time
school
students
here.
So
thank
you
very
much
have
a
wonderful
holiday
to
all
of
you.
See
you
next
year.
B
Thank
you,
chris
mckinney
offices,
572
savannah
highway,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
levi
grantham
and
crescent
homes.
Mr
mayor
city,
council,
thank
you
for
your
time.
We
would
like
to
bring
a
troubling
topic
to
your
attention
with
the
city,
engineering
and
timely
response
for
the
local
builders,
and
it's
fitting
that
I'm
here
today
after
the.
B
I
have
one
small
example:
we
submitted
a
project
to
the
prc
committee
per
the
dedication
management
manual
that
you
have,
which
is
process
driven
right,
and
we
did
that
back
in
early
august
and
to
this
date
today
december
7th.
We
still
have
not
received
city
of
charleston
engineering
comments
right,
so
we
have
a
tough
time
providing
housing.
I
I
I
You
can't
close
a
road
without
a
vote
of
city
council.
We
don't
have
it
then
my
neighbor
said
ross.
Why
is
it
you're
not
following
the
law?
Why
is
it
you're
dodging?
Please
stop.
Why
are
you
dodging
the
law?
And
you
went
like
this
to
him
like
that,
like
go
away,
that's
on
zoom,
and
then
you
know
what
you
said
to
him.
Ma'am
you
said
sorry
bro
now
is
that
okay,
with
y'all
are
y'all
all
right
of
what
they've
done
to
my
family.
I
never
came
home
during
the
the
wintertime
to
see
the
school
traffic.
I
I
came
home
like
every
other
sun
at
christmas,
if
I
wasn't
deployed
or
during
the
summertime,
and
now
that
I
moved
in
during
the
winter,
oh
man
and
what
has
been
done
to
help
me.
Nothing,
zero,
not
one
compromise,
not
okay!
We
know
it's
illegal,
so
we're
gonna
fix
it.
That's
the
real
answer.
What
we've
had
is
we're
not
going
to
put
the
signs
up
because
it's
inconvenient
it
doesn't
follow
the
school
plan.
They
haven't
gotten
with
the
school
at
all
and
said:
reroute,
the
traffic
they've
done.
Absolutely
nothing
nobody's
helped
me.
I
A
A
I
think
there
may
be
you
each
have
an
appointee
to
the
council.
These
all
of
mine
came
up
together
and
I
made
appointments.
We
do
like
to
include
them
in
the
public
notice.
So
if
you
can
check
with
brittany
and
see
if,
if
your
appointee
is
up
again,
you
you,
it
would
be
need
to
be
submitted
on
the
next
agenda.
A
A
It's
just
letting
y'all
know
that
berkeley
county
asked
tom
o'brien
to
be
there
on
their
ctc
committee,
and
I
think
that's
great
for
tom
and
for
us
we
haven't
had
a
representative
on
that
committee.
Ever
I
don't
think,
have
we
council
member
seeking?
I
don't
think
so.
So
this
is
new
for
us
and
good
and
just
let
everyone
know.
Robbie
somerville
is
our
representative
on
the
charleston
county
transportation
committee,
but
they
work
very
closely
together.
D
A
M
M
We
have
a
lot
of
pride.
We
have
a
lot
of
history,
we're
battleground
historical
preservation
where
part
of
the
civil
war
was
fought
and
even
our
relatives
we
found
unexploded
cannonballs
as
well
as
mortar
shells
left
over
from
the
civil
war
in
my
community.
So
to
be
a
part
of
the
neighborhood
council.
I
think
we
have
a
lot
to
offer
to
other
associations
as
well
as
we're
open
to
having
them
to
help
us
in
areas
where
we
might
need
help.
But
then
again
I
want
to
thank
you
all
so
very
much.
M
B
A
Mr
richardson,
I
I
read
with
great
interest
article
about
you
recently
in
your
career
and
we
welcome
you
back
to
charleston
welcome
home,
we're
so
glad
to
have
you
back
in
our
community.
Thank
you,
sir.
So
next
up
is
our
update
on
city's
response
to
coba
19
and
really
it's
by
way
of
bringing
back
to
you
a
couple
of
extensions
on
our
meeting
protocols
for
council
and
for
other
public
bodies.
A
I
will
share
with
you,
but
you've
all
probably
been
watching
the
news
cases
and
deaths
from
coba
19
are
actually
back
up
across
the
country,
pretty
leveled
here
in
charleston,
but
it
is
concerning.
It
reminded
me
to
to
be
honest
with
you,
the
the
adage
that
we
learn
from
the
dutch
dialogues
that
we
have
to
learn
to
live
with
water.
I
think
we're
at
the
point.
We
need
to
learn
to
live
with
covid,
and
that
means
all
those
good
things
we've
talked
about
for
so
long,
including
vaccinations.
A
Folks
are
concerned,
as
you
all
have
read
about
the
new
variant
omicron,
but
maybe
it's
not
so
bad
we'll
see,
I
think
most
local
health
care
professionals
are
more
worried
about
when
winter
weather
arrives,
whether
we'll
see
a
resurgence
in
numbers
like
we've
seen
in
the
united
states,
but
mostly
in
the
colder
regions.
So
it's
we're
in
a
in
a
in
a
better
place,
but
you
know
we're
it's
not
quote
over.
It's
a
matter
of
adjusting
and
learning
to
live
with
the
reality
of
covet.
A
With
that
being
said,
julia's
not
with
us
tonight,
wilbur
did
you
have
any
comments
about
the
two
ordinances
that
we
are
asking
to
extend
for
yet
another
60
days
just
in
case
and
also
our
planning
boards
and
commissions,
still
have
not
made
that
transition
back
to
in-person
meetings.
I
think
mr
summerfield
plans
on
that
to
start
occurring
after
the
first
of
the
year.
Isn't
that
correct.
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
wanted
to
inquire.
I
know
that
we
kind
of
corresponded,
but
is
there
going
to
be
a
ordinance
coming
out
that
will
establish
permanently,
that
we
can
do
some
hybrid
and
zoom
meetings
and
stuff
going
forward
without
the
need
for
an
ongoing
emergency
ordinance,
because
I
think,
as
I
mentioned,
it's
2021
not
1821..
B
So
we
can.
We
can
conduct
business
without
always
having
to
be
physically
present,
but
there
should
always
be
a
majority
that
has
to
be
physically
present
in
order
to
conduct
business,
but
I
think
you
know
we've
shown
that
we
can
continue
to
move
ordinances
and
everything
else
along
virtually,
and
so
I'd
like
to
see
us
use
that
as
part
of
regular
order.
Instead
of
having.
C
I
know
next
year
in
january
we
bring
the
rules
of
counsel
forward
to
council
to
consider
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
and
so,
if
that's
something
you
would
like
to
do,
then
just
let
us
know-
and
we
could
put
that
on
the
agenda,
but
the
emergency
ordinance
is,
I
think,
it
extent
they're
extending
this
for
60
days.
I
believe.
A
So
we
we
planned
with
your
input
to
to
bring
some
changes
to
our
rules
of
counsel.
I
think
mostly
concentrating
on
the
ability
of
council
to
still
have
meetings
virtually
for
committee
meetings
and
other
meetings
we'd
still
like
to
meet
in
person
for
our
council
meetings,
yeah
and
ways
and
means
all
right.
But
if
you
have
any
other
suggestions,
just
just
send
me
a
communication
or
an
email
and
we'll
work
it
into
our
council
rules
all
right.
A
A
O
Update
on
racial
bias,
audit
we
went
back
and
reviewed
the
the
purpose
of
the
audit.
The
four
bullet
points
on
that
are
the
72
recommendations
are
the
audit.
24
are
in
progress,
26
are
in
full
compliance
with
an
annual
review
and
another
21
are
in
full
compliance,
meaning
those
things
have
been
checked
off.
O
We
also
had
a
review
of
the
proposed
dashboard
that
the
city
police
department
will
implement
and
launch
how
that
dashboard
works
on
the
numbers
dealing
with
several
different
categories
as
to
stops
arrest,
search
following
a
stop
things
of
that
nature.
It's
very
detailed.
We've
got
some
kinks
to
work
out
with
that,
but
they're
in
very
good
mode.
With
that
and
making
very
good
progress,
we
will
have
an
update
from
the
audit
twice
a
year.
We've
asked
him
to
do
that
towards
the
before
the
public
safety
committee.
O
N
And
I
mean
in
all
seriousness,
they
clearly
feel
as
though
they're
not
being
provided
with
information.
I
didn't
read
the
letters
in
response
to
their
inquiry,
but
it
appears
as
though
they're
still
not
quite
satisfied
with
the
thoroughness
of
updating
them
with
regard
to
achieving
the
various
recommendations
and,
as
you
know,
it
was
also
part
of
the
commission's
recommendations
to
meet
with
the
public
safety
committee,
not
just
on
the
update
of
the
audit,
but
some
of
the
recommendations
that
are
relevant
to
public
safety.
O
O
They
have
been
in
contact
with
those
folks
that
you
are
mentioning
they
have
been
in
communication
with
them
and
part
of
what
I
think
is
going
through
with
this
audit
is
making
sure
that
they
are
being
meticulous
and
satisfying
the
recommendations
of
the
audit,
so
it's
not
as
if
they
are
ignoring
them
or
cutting
them
off
or
not.
Listening
to
them,
they
have
they've
been
a
regular.
I
understand
in
regular
communication
with
one
another.
Now
is
there
more
than
to
be
done.
O
Certainly
one
of
the
screens
we
were
showing
yesterday
is
an
illustration
was
a
ladder,
and
the
illustration
was
that
there
were
certain
rungs
on
on
the
ladder
that
we
need
to
accomplish
and
reach
in
this
audit.
I
think
that,
certainly
from
my
perspective-
and
I
think
from
the
members
of
the
charleston
police
department's
perspective-
is
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
work
in
progress.
We're
not
going
to
just
check
off
the
70-something
recommendations
and
say
we're
done.
O
I
think
if
we,
if
we
do,
that,
we're
fooling
ourselves
because
things
change
rapidly
in
our
community
and
things
change
rapidly
in
policing,
and
I
think
that
the
commitment
I
received
from
the
chief
and
from
his
leadership
team
is
that
we're
going
to
work
on
this
and
work
on
improvements
and
we're
not
going
to
satisfy
everybody
on
this
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
folks
who
think
we're
going
not
far
enough
or
we're
going
too
far.
But
that's
okay.
O
I
think
that's
that's
part
of
the
process
as
well,
so
we
hear
them
we're.
I
don't
know
if
we're
gonna,
make
them
happy
or
satisfied,
but
we're
trying
to
we're
listening,
we're
listening
and
we'll
take
part
in
keeping
the
dialogue
open.
The
best
we
can
and
excuse
me
part
of
that
is
I've-
got
to
reach
out
to
some
certain
folks
on
that
commission
as
well
I'll.
Take
some
responsibility
for
that
too.
O
N
We
would
like,
for
the
past
chairman,
to
be
a
part
of
that,
and
the
chairman,
I'm
I'm
talking
about-
is
the
criminal
justice
subcommittee
to
be
a
part
of
that
and
to
give
some
type
of
overview
similar,
perhaps
to
what
you
guys
got
during
that
meeting,
because
I
really
I'm
not
on
top
of
the
audit
findings
myself
to
be
perfectly
honest
with
you,
so
it'd
be
good
at
that
meeting.
If
you
can
sort
of
have
our
police
department
that'll
give
us
an
overview.
A
So
you
know,
I
think
the
police
department
acknowledged
that
they
could
do
a
little
more
transparency
and
the
dashboard
is
a
huge
step
in
that
direction,
because
it's
public
all
the
things
that
they're
working
on
and
have
completed
and
still
working
on.
So
I,
I
think,
they're
in
a
much
better
position
going
forward
to
to
have
that
communication.
Not
just
with
that
group
right,
but
with
the
general
public.
L
The
credit
for
the
recommendation
I
made
to
being
transparent
is
that
we
can
get
the
information
have
an
outside
origin
through
the
of
the
police
department,
letting
them
know
that
what
we
had
said
we
were
going
to
do
that.
We
are
doing
it
and
not
having
the
police
to
are
themselves
that
we
are
having
the
outside,
so
they're
going
to
be
working
on
that
also,
and
that
will
kind
of
satisfy
some
of
the
things
that
people
are
saying
that
we're
not
doing
so.
O
Also
the
other
comment
on
the
dashboard-
and
I
think
sometimes
this
is
what
happens
when
you
throw
out
raw
numbers
without
a
narrative,
it
doesn't
make
sense,
and
so
you
you
need
to
have
a
narrative
to
go
along
with
with
the
statistics
and
the
raw
numbers
so
that
we
understand
them,
and
so
the
dashboard
is
really
going
to
be
a
wonderful
tool
to
provide,
I
think,
real
time,
understanding
of
what's
going
on
and
then
it'll
be
done
on
a
monthly
basis.
So
you'll
see
these
numbers
come
up
on
a
monthly
basis.
O
There
may
be
a
delay
time
from.
You
may
not
have
november's
reports
as
of
december
1st,
maybe
a
lag
time,
but
you
got
to
input
the
numbers
interpret
them
and
hopefully
provide
the
narrative
along
with
it
as
well.
So
I
think
the
whole
idea
with
the
mayor
said
we've
done
two-thirds
of
the
recommendations.
That's
that's!
That's
pretty
good
progress,
it's,
but
it's
still
slow,
we'll
be
getting
there.
O
A
M
M
It
thank
you
smith.
Under
the
discussions,
the
do
off
drainage
basin,
we
actually
received
a
couple
of
letters
from
an
attorney
representing
some
concerned
citizens.
We
had
a
good
discussion
on
enormous
amount
of
work.
That's
being
done,
man
is
familiar
with
it.
A
lot
of
committee
members
are
familiar
with
it.
The
dewalt
drainage
basin
touches
on,
I
believe,
five
city,
council
districts,
councilman
saccharins,
brady's,
myself,
appel
and,
I
believe,
shades.
M
So
it's
a
vital
importance,
first,
joint
agreement
between
the
county
and
the
city,
but
we
need
to
do
a
better
job,
communicating
that
to
the
residents
mayor
and
his
team
is
going
to
get
on
top
of
that
mr
fountain's,
going
to
get
on
top
of
that.
It's
been
years
of
accomplishments
from
planning,
but
the
actual
dirt
hadn't
begun
to
move.
Yet
so
we're
going
to
communicate
that
to
the
people
and
obviously
our
legal
staff
will
respond
to
their
attorney.
M
The
discussion
on
orleans
woods.
Anybody
who
represents
an
older
district
inside
526
orleans
woods
is
a
district.
Is
an
area
that
floods
when
we
get
gushers,
it's
really
nothing
to
do
with
water
or
sea
level
rise
and
I'll
I'll.
Tell
you
why
I'm
very
familiar
with
that
it
was
developed
when
I
was
about
12.
N
M
Old
and
I'm
66
now
so
I've
watched
it
a
long
time.
That's
right,
the
commercial
strip
shopping
center
that
I
have
the
crab
shack
drains
through
it
southeastern
galleries,
drains
through
it
medical
office
park
about
40
percent
on
savage
road
drains
through
the
wall.
Greens,
that's
on
savage
of
61
drains
through
175
unit
apartment
complex
drains
through
all
these
cell
storage
unit.
M
That
was
just
built
next
to
my
offices,
drains
through
out
falls
through
only
14
000
square
foot,
medical
office
building
drains
and
all
the
spark
drains
through
all
these
wood
and
to
boot
drainage
off
of
highway
61.
drains
through
a
residential
community.
None
of
the
ditches
and
none
of
the
piping
has
been
upsized
since
1984.
Since
orleans
woods
was
built.
So
all
these
commercial
developments
drain
through
it
because
it
was
cheaper
to
go
through
a
residential
area
for
the
engineers
who
are
designing
it
for
their
client
versus
going.
M
I
think
that's
a
unusual
situation,
but
that's
something
that
mr
mayor,
we
had
as
a
city.
I
believe
we
did.
This
may
have
happened
prior
to
your
election
right
after
your
election,
where
we
came
up
with
an
ordinance
that
said
anytime,
you
update
a
commercial
area,
that's
grandfathered!
Now
without
attention
you
have
to
come.
M
I'd
like
to
throw
out
different
information,
we
can
certainly
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
public
works.
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
time
line
for
every
strip
shopping
center
that
doesn't
have
a
retention
plan
to
eventually
come
in
compliance,
because
councilmember
shayed
has
the
charlestown
one
or
two
and
three
over
there
by.
I
still
call
it
ashley
plaza
mall
but
joined
my
age,
but
all
of
that
pavement
and
commercial
buildings
flows
through
the
residential
area,
that
without
one
retention
home
and
they
got
the
space
to
do
it.
N
M
O
Since
you
brought
up
the
thing
about
bachelor
parts,
well,
it
was
actually
they
built
those
out
parcels
along
santa
rittenberg
which
we're
glad
to
have
them
out.
There
has
been
a
huge
benefit
to
the
community,
but
as
soon
as
that
happened,
especially
as
soon
as
that
happened,
the
flooding
got
worse.
So
your
point
is
because
it
was
like
you
said
it
was
grandfathered
in
to
the
standards
that
we
pre-existed
and
we're
working
on
it
thanks
to
matt
fountain
he's
not
here,
but
we're
addressing
that
issue.
A
Thank
you
both
I'll
comment
that
I
remember
specifically
that
that
ordinance
you
referred
to
passed
after
I
got
elected,
because
I
will
never
forget
your
advocacy
for
it.
You
were
you
were
tenacious
on
that
point.
Thankfully,
our
new
stormwater
manual
has
much
higher
level
of
requirement
for
new
construction
so
as
to
not
do
harm
to
the
existing
basin
that
it's
in
so
in
theory,
even
though
something
new
could
still
get
built
next
to
orleans
woods,
it's
supposed
to
prove
itself
that
it
doesn't
harm
anyone
any
you
know
any
any.
A
Additionally,
I
I
do
concur
with
you,
though,
that
in
some
way
to,
I
think,
the
way
that
ordinance
works.
If
you
did
50
improvements,
then
you
got
to
bring
it
up
to
standards
and
there's
got
to
be
some
way
that,
with
extended
period
of
time,
that
we're
able
to
give
those
people
who
are
not
compliant
some
some
some
time
to
get
into
compliance
but
to
to
set
up
some
kind
of
mechanisms
like
make
that
happen.
Yes,
sir.
P
P
But
if
there's
things
that
can
be
done
reasonably
to
move
the
needle
25
here,
15
there
as
we've
seen
with
all
the
great
stormwater
improvement
work,
we've
done
thus
far
in
west
ashley
and
james
on
sometimes
doing
a
little
bit
in
a
lot
of
places
has
an
aggregate
effect
in
a
positive
way,
and
so
I
think
that
this
might
be
something
worth
studying.
I
think
it's
something
worth
bringing
in
the
shopping
center
owners
and
having
a
very
collaborative
conversation
about,
but
you
know
there's
precedent
for
amateur.
I
don't
know.
P
You
know
adult
bookstore,
you're
you're
out
of
here
in
10
years,
so
there's
ways
you
can
tighten
the
screws
down
on
non-conforming
uses
and
while
we're
talking
about
grandfathering,
do
you
all
know
where
that
word
comes
from
in
the
context
of
zoning?
So
so
the
word
grandfathering
comes
from
a
a
phrase
that
was
used
in.
I
guess
it
would
be.
You
know,
like
reconstruction
era,
america,
where
you
were
not
allowed
to
vote
if
one
of
your
grandfathers
was
african-american,
so
I
think
we
should
get.
P
P
You
know
improvements
to
the
site
that
can
be
phased
in
over
the
top
over
time
that
don't
break
the
bank
for
the
shopping
centers
and
get
pushed
down
to
the
tenants,
but
also
help
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
communities.
I
think
that's
a
very,
very
great
idea.
That's
worth
exploring
in
the
coming.
A
A
A
On
the
action
items
hey,
I
did
want
to
take
a
a
quick
break
and
I
didn't
notice
when
we
had
so
many
people
in
the
room
but
to
welcome
our
council
member,
elect
stephen
bowden,
who
will
be
representing
district
10
after
the
first
of
the
year.
Thank
you,
stephen
for
being
with
us
tonight
and
congratulations.
A
B
C
O
While
you
were
signing,
one
thing
we
didn't
do
tonight
is
this:
is
december
7th.
This
is
the
80th
anniversary
of
the
bombing
of
pearl
harbor
and
I
think,
would
be
somewhat
appropriate
if
we
just
took
a
moment
and
paused
to
recognize
those
men
and
women
who
died
and
the
world-changing
event
that
pearl
harbor
had
on
our
country
and
probably
the
world
that
I
think
just
we
miss
on
us.
We
didn't
do
something
just
to
recognize.
This
is
the
80th
anniversary
of
that
event.
A
C
A
So,
my
colleagues,
I
must
tell
you
how
much
I
enjoyed
meeting
together
in
person
again
and
and
just
it
seemed
to
me
so
much
more
productive,
the
dialogue
we
do
better,
brainstorming,
better
listening,
and
so
anyway,
I
just
thought
I'd
say
thanks
for
getting
back
together.
This
is
great.
You
all
have
a
great
couple
of
weeks.
We'll
see
you
again
on
december
21st
right
here.