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From YouTube: City of Charleston Special City Council Meeting 2/8/2022
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City of Charleston Special City Council Meeting 2/8/2022
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So
as
of
this
morning,
there
were
something
like
85
apartments
that
had
been
displaced
over
175
people.
I
just
mentioned
that
because
number
one
we're
thankful
but
number
two.
We
need
to
help
those
who
were
displaced
by
this
fire.
The
red
cross
is
leading
the
effort,
but
we're
very
connected
with
this
effort,
and
I
would
challenge
us
as
a
community
to
help
these
individuals
get
re-situated
and
be
able
to
help
them
over.
You
know
the
next
few
months,
not
just
a
one-time
thing.
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Here's
a
check
and
see
you
later
so
we've
got
different
churches
and
community
organizations
that
are
stepping
forward
to
help,
in
essence,
step
through
or
mentor
these
individuals
and
their
families.
And
if
you
know
of
anybody
or
your
church
group
would
like
to
be
involved,
please
please
contact
us
or
the
red
cross.
We
have
a
coordination
meeting
tomorrow
and
I
talked
to
chief
curia
today
and-
and
this
is
a
wonderful
gesture
of
cooperation
from
the
town
of
mount
pleasant.
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They,
along
with
our
own
city,
fire
department,
will
have
a
little
drop-off
stations
at
each
of
our
fire
stations
in
the
city
and
in
mount
pleasant
for
non-perishable
goods
clothing.
I
mean
I
was
there
y'all
yesterday
morning
and
literally
they
were
knocking
on
the
doors
and
pulling
people
out
when
the
fire
was
getting
going.
They
walked
out
with
their
pajamas
on,
and
everything
got
burned
up.
They
got
nothing,
nothing
left
so
just
basic
stuff,
they're
gonna
need-
and
you
know
the
red
cross
has
like
a
little
budget
for
a
certain
amount
of
money.
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They
give
each
family,
but
we
really
need
to
pull
together
and
try
to
help
them
beyond
what
the
red
cross
would
normally
do.
They're
great,
don't
get
me
wrong,
so
I
wanted
to
also
welcome
to
our
meeting
our
newest
council
member
representing
district.
One
boyd
greg
is
with
us
he
he
was
successful
in
a
special
election
just
a
week
before
last.
We
went
ahead
and
swore
him
in
last
friday,
so
he's
officially
a
city
council
member.
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Yes,
how
about
that
so,
whereas
having
having
traveled
extensively
due
to
his
father's
position
in
the
u.s
air
force
abe
attended
schools
abroad
until
his
father
received
his
final
posting
to
charleston
south
carolina
where
the
family
settled
permanently
abe
attended,
somerville
high
school,
where
he
received
a
football
scholarship
to
attend
delaware,
state
university
in
dover,
delaware.
He
later
transferred
to
south
carolina
state
university,
a
proud
bulldog,
abe's
love
for
politics,
inspired
him
to
pursue
an
undergraduate
degree
in
political
science
from
south
carolina
state
which
he
completed
in
1978
and
2004.
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He
earned
a
masters
of
science
degree
in
dynamics
of
organization
and
leadership
from
the
university
of
pennsylvania.
Abe
is
the
father
of
three
children
renee
james
and
jamal
later
in
his
life,
abe
moved
with
his
family
to
philadelphia
was
hired
as
director
of
transport
services
at
the
hospital,
the
university
of
pennsylvania.
He
was
the
first
african-american
director
at
that
hospital.
He
ultimately
moved
back
to
charleston
in
2004,
where
he
met
wanda
days,
also,
who
also
attended
wesley
united
methodist
church
on
john's
island.
The
two
married
on
march,
28th
of
2014.
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abe,
worked
tirelessly
for
both
president
barack
obama's
president
presidential
campaigns
and
held
several
positions
with
those
campaigns.
He
served
abele
for
two
years,
a
political
director
of
the
south
carolina
democratic
party
and
recently
served
as
state
political
director
for
pete
for
america.
Presidential
campaign
abe
served
as
the
secretary
of
the
sea
island,
comprehensive
health
care,
corporation
board
of
directors
and
a
member
of
the
board
of
directors
of
rural
missions
inc,
the
concerned,
citizens
of
sea
islands
and
coastal
conservationist
league.
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He
also
led
an
effort
to
rejuvenate
rejuvenate
the
progressive
club,
which
was
founded
by
his
grandfather,
esau
and
following
in
those
footsteps
of
his
paternal
grandparents.
He
saw
in
janie
jenkins
and
really
the
entire
jenkins
family
abe
was
dedicated
to
fighting
for
justice
for
all.
He
was
an
activist,
an
organizer,
a
mentor,
but,
most
importantly,
he
was
a
loyal
friend.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
I
john
j
techenberg
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston,
on
behalf
of
all
our
citizens,
extend
to
the
members
of
abe's
family.
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I
just
want
to
thank
all
the
people
here
in
the
state
of
south
carolina
and
charleston
county
dave,
and
I
had
a
long,
long
vacation.
He
was
born
in
england
and
from
england.
We
went
to
many
places
we
hannah
back
here
and
he
was
part
of
the
president
obama's
campaign
and
he
did
a
good
job.
There
got
to
be
to
be
president
and
he
came
back
and
he
started
working
with
all
the
local
people
and
he
was
a
real
good
member
of
my
church,
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you.
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My
father
has
said
it
very
nicely.
We
are
very
proud
of
abe
and
abe's
accomplishments.
He
was
my
big
brother.
He
was
my
friend
my
confidante,
and
we
just
really
appreciate
the
love
and
the
tributes
that
have
been
given
to
abe
and
about
abe.
It
has
made
myself
my
brother,
my
sister
and
his
three
children
and
all
of
our
cousins
and
aunts
and
uncles,
very,
very
proud
of
the
work
that
he
has
done
and
we
will
continue
to
live
his
legacy
and
fall
in
his
footsteps.
God
bless
you
all.
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Good
evening,
mayor
members
of
council,
so
I
just
want
to
do
a
real,
quick
recap
on
what
the
johns
island
municipal
improvement
district
is
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
this
evening's
purpose
is
kind
of
recap.
What
you
just
said
also
online
is
jeremy
cook,
who
is
the
attorney?
That's
been
advising
this
process,
who
will
also
give
us
some
instructions
if
you
would
on
how
to
do
the
the
public
hearing
of
objections?
This
is
new
for
us.
G
This
is,
we
think,
one
of
the
only
mids
that
have
been
done
in
south
carolina-
that's
not
a
part
of
like
next
in
or
magnolia,
or
something
like
that
where
it's
a
single
owner.
This
is
somewhat
unique
in
south
carolina's
experience.
So
real,
quick,
just
a
reminder,
we're
required
to
hear
the
objections.
This
is
per
the
statute.
This
council
has
already
established
the
municipal
improvement
district.
It
did
that
by
ordinance.
It
submitted
a
resolution
that
provided
for
the
improvement
plan
mayor.
You
just
summed
up
what
that
improvement
plan
essentially
details.
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It
details
how
the
mid
proceeds
would
be
spent
they'll,
be
spent
on
transportation,
related
projects,
park,
recreation
facilities
and
infrastructure
related
to
that,
as
well
as
contributing
to
drainage
or
storm
water
projects.
Again,
this
is
not
a
substantial
sum
of
money
in
the
the
big
picture
for
in
infrastructure
projects,
it's
really
meant
to
supplement
other
funding
sources
that
are
already
either
earmarked
dedicated,
or
we
would
expect
to
become
dedicated
to
these
types
of
projects
in
the
future.
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This
provides
for
a
special
fee
to
be
assessed
to
property
owners,
in
addition
to
normal
taxes
or
other
fees
that
may
be
assessed
to
the
property.
The
funds
generated
for
amid
may
only
be
spent
in
that
mid
area.
It
doesn't
mean
that
they're
exclusively
on
property,
adjacent
to
or
or
right
away
or
other
infrastructure,
immediately
adjacent
to
the
property,
but
they
must
be
proximate
and
they
must
benefit
those
properties
that
are
participating.
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The
written
consent
is
required
for
any
existing
property
owner
that
is
living
on
the
property.
So
to
be
very
clear,
the
mid
does
not
include
anyone
as
of
the
creation
of
the
mid,
that
was
a
four
percent
owner
occupied
home
so
or
or
property
rather
so
this
would
only
be
for
those
properties
that
are
non-owner,
occupied
or
non-4
would
be
included
in
the
district.
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This
gives
you
just
a
closer
snapshot
of
these
properties,
as
you
can
see,
there's
still
quite
a
few
properties
that
do
not
meet
the
test
and
therefore
are
not
contributing
to
the
to
the
mid
district
again.
Kerner
current
owner
occupied
will
not
we're
not
included
in
the
district,
so
they're,
not
a
part
of
this
property.
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So
there's
two
tests
for
parcels
that
are
in
the
district,
a
property
is
two
acres
or
greater,
and
the
property
is
located
in
the
city
and
the
property
is
not
currently
being
used
as
a
primary
residence
and
then
second
test
is
the
property,
has
an
active
entitlement
for
development,
meaning
it's
gone
through
some
kind
of
trc
or
planning
commission
or
what
have
you
but
does
not
yet
have
a
certificate
of
construction
completion,
meaning
it's
not
occupiable.
At
this
point.
G
The
assessment
so
very
key
the
billing
only
begins
after
a
parcel.
That's
in
the
district
builds
a
new
commercial
space
or
residential
structure,
and
the
billing
is
triggered
when
a
certificate
of
construction
completion
has
been
issued
by
the
city.
So
once
the
the
building
official
has
zeroed
out
all
inspections
and
issued
that
certificate
of
construction
completion,
meaning
the
the
project
is
ready
to
be
occupied
and
generate
income.
If
it's
commercial
or
be
moved
into,
then
it
then
it
would
see
the
assessment.
The
fee
for
a
residential
unit
is
480
dollars
per
year.
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That
does
increase
annually
over
the
30-year
period
that
the
mid
is
established
for
for
commercial
buildings.
A
residential
equivalency
was
created,
so
every
100
or
1
800
square
feet
of
new
commercial
space
would
be
at
the
4
480
per
year
on
that
again
and
that
would
increase
2
annually
for
30
years,
non-assessed
property.
So
by
the
ordinance
we
provided
some
components
in
there
about
non-assessed
property
that
would
include
any
public
property,
any
owner
association,
property
or
any
utility
property.
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Additionally,
no
assessment
will
be
imposed
on
these
properties,
and
I
cannot
remember,
do
we
have
the
thing
about
affordable
housing?
Okay,
so
and
then
the
other
piece
I
want
to
talk
about
here
in
the
non-assassi
is
we
we
also
in
the
documentation,
it's
very
clear
that
there
is
a
credit
given
for
any
affordable
residential
unit.
So
if
you
have
a
bona
fide
affordable
residential
unit,
meaning
it's
met
the
test
required
from
our
department
of
community
housing
or
housing
and
community
development,
then
that
unit
is
credited
against,
whatever
assessment
might
be
provided.
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So
if
you
have
one
unit
that
you've
added
and
that
unit
is
affordable,
that
unit
will
not
be
for
the
life
of
its
affordability.
It
would
not
be
charged
the
assessment,
it's
important
for
people
to
realize
that,
so
this
really
quickly
just
gives
the
history
we've
been
at
this
work
for
quite
a
while.
Actually,
the
department
began,
these
discussions
about
amid
back
in
2018
spring
summer
of
2018,
has
been
working
with
the
public
and
some
stakeholder
engagement
since
the
fall
of
2019.
G
That
continued
all
the
way
through
this
past
summer,
when
we
began
preparing
for
the
public
process
at
city
council,
which
included
the
city
council
meeting
of
july
20th,
where
the
city
council
resolution
to
begin
drafting
the
municipal
improvement
district
ordinance
was
held
and
approved
by
council
on
august
17th,
we
held
a
public
hearing
where
folks
could
come
out.
We
held
that.
G
I
believe
that
was
an
off-site
meeting.
Actually
we
held
that
so
that
we
could
try
to
get
as
much
participation
in
that
one
as
possible.
That
was
again.
We
held
that
public
hearing.
We
had
a
few
people
come
out.
Generally
speaking,
the
speakers
came
out
in
favor
of
the
mid-concept.
We
did
have
a
speaker
who
was
concerned
about
whether
or
not
we
had
reached
out
to
some
of
the
underrepresented
groups
that
have
not
traditionally
attended
public
meetings.
G
G
Again,
just
like
all
other
ordinances,
the
bill
did
get
an
introduction
and
then
a
second
and
third
reading.
In
december
of
this
past
year,
we
sent
out
notices
to
all
property
owners
by
registered
certified
mail,
so
that
again,
every
property
owner
that
was
established
in
the
district
was
notified
by
certified
mail
that
they
were
part
of
the
district
and
establishing,
when
the
date
and
location
for
this
hearing
today
is
today
february,
8th
we're
holding
the
the
required
public
hearing
of
objections.
G
G
How
long
will
it
take
again,
there's
no
way
to
tell
for
certain
how
long
it
would
take.
We
expect
that
there
will
be
a
little
money
that
will
be
generated
in
the
early
years,
but
as
additional
construction
projects
that
are
either
currently
entitled,
or
even
some
that
are
preliminarily
under
construction
come
online.
We
do
expect
that
to
come
forward.
G
Additionally,
as
those
revenues
begin
to
materialize,
it
will
allow
us
to
have
that
conversation
with
the
cfo
about
whether
or
not
we
have
the
ability
to
bond
and
bring
in
money
that
we
can
then
get
those
infrastructure
projects
rolling
sooner
rather
than
later,
to
deliver
those
for
the
community
here
on
johns
island
and
what
projects
will
be
funding
and
how
they
will
be
prioritized.
So
the
specific
projects
that
will
be
funded
will
be
done
as
money
is
available.
G
So
again
we
don't
know
yet
when
specific
dollars
will
be
available,
so
to
say
that
it
will
be
for
this
project
or
that
project
again,
because
it's
intended
to
be
gap.
Funding,
that's
exceedingly
difficult
for
us
to
do.
But
what
is
committed
by
the
mayor's
office
and
councilman
brady,
who
is
the
district
representative,
is
that
entire
work
will
be
done
in
a
public
forum.
I
Okay,
can
you
all
hear
me,
okay,
yeah,
so
the
the
documents
that
robert
has
been
alluding
to
provide
for
certain
interpretations
over
time
by
city
council?
Obviously
they're
very
in-depth
documents,
they're
going
to
have
a
long,
a
long
life
of
30
years
as
part
of
city
council's
ongoing
work
will
be
to
annually
review
and
approve
an
assessment
role,
so
that
will
go
back
to
as
robert
was
talking
about
properties
that
triggered
it
through
the
construct,
a
new
house
or
new
commercial
building.
I
I
The
second
part
of
city
council's
ongoing
role
after
the
creation
of
the
mid,
is
to
provide
interpretations
of
the
documents.
So
this
is
not
something
that's
going
to
be
done
tonight
as
if
also
there's
not
going
to
be
decisions
tonight.
But
there
are
two
initial
interpretations
that
have
come
out
from
discussions
that
staff
has
had
with
interested
stakeholders.
I
I
The
second
interpretation
has
to
do
with
if
an
existing
house
or
business
is
destroyed,
for
example
by
fire.
So
if
somebody
has
a
house
on
john's
island
tonight,
the
their
properties
in
the
assessment
district
and
unfortunately
like
what
the
mayor
was
speaking
of,
there's
a
there's,
a
fire
two
years
from
now
and
that
homeowner
decides
to
rebuild.
I
Even
though
that
property
is
in
the
assessment
district,
it
would
not
be
subject
to
an
assessment.
Is
it's
not
it's,
not
a
new
house
or
a
new
construction
for
purposes
of
the
mid,
it's
a
replacement,
so
that
will
be
two
interpretations
that
will
be
coming
to
city
council
at
a
subsequent
meeting,
but
wanted
to
flag
those
issues
tonight
in
connection
with
the
hearing
on
objections.
I
I
J
G
J
I
Yeah
so
councilman
seeking
tonight's
meeting
and
the
votes
that
would
come
are
only
on
the
specific
objections
that
that
have
been
raised.
So
the
statute
does
not
address
the
question
that
you've
raised.
So
if,
if,
if
council
wanted
to
take
an
action
contrary
to
a
prior
ordinance,
a
new
ordinance
would
need
to
be
adopted,
but
the
statute
does
not
speak
to
that
particular
point.
J
J
G
Thank
you.
We
did
try
to
investigate
the
committee
process
as
we
were
trying
to
figure
this
out,
because
again,
this
is
somewhat
new.
We're
not
aware
of
anyone
else's
had
to
do
this
and
it
the
the
statute's
clear
that
the
action
has
to
be
taken
by
the
the
council
as
a
whole.
Great.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
A
lot
of
citizens
participated
where
it
was
duly
pointed
out
and
acknowledged
and
recognized
that
john's
island
developed
out
with
a
without
a
lot
of
necessary
infrastructure
being
put
in
place
and,
and
so
the
city
is
acknowledging
that
and
as
you've
heard
the
term
before
an
impact
fee.
This
is
different
legally
than
an
impact
fee,
but
in
my
mind
it's
very
similar
where
new
development,
new
development,
not
existing
development,
but
new
development
would
pay
an
extra
fee
in
order.
C
So
we
can
build
that
road
connector
we
need
or
or
build
a
gymnasium
and
a
swimming
pool
or
help
with
a
drainage
project
and
the
things
that
we
think
our
citizens
would
like
to
have
out
here,
so
that
that's
kind
of
the
background
of
where
all
this
came
from.
So
we
had
a
sign
up
list.
Madam
clerk
will
call
us
out
one
at
a
time.
I
will
once
again
repeat,
though,
if
you
are
a
home
owner
in
a
you
know:
a
four
percent
registered
single-family
home
you're
not
going
to
be
assessed.
C
So
if
you
come
up
to
object
and
you're
already
living
here,
I
guess
you
would
just
be
objecting
against
the
whole
idea
of
this
thing,
but
it
wouldn't
be
on
your
property
so
also
for
future
use.
If
we
did
affordable
housing,
it
would
not
apply
to
those
properties
as
well.
So
I
wanted
to
make
that
clear.
Mr
mill.
A
I
A
I
So
to
answer
your
question:
if
I
understand
it
correctly,
it's
no
on
two
points.
I
mean
one
you're,
not
in
the
improvement
district
right.
So
if
you
rebuild
you're,
not
triggering
anything
in
the
improvement
district
because
you're
not
in
it,
so
the
answer
is
no
on
that
front.
But
if
you
want
to
say
well,
if
it
were
in
the
improvement
district
and
you
rebuilt
with
another
affordable
unit,
no
not
be
assessed
in
that
case
either.
Okay,.
A
And
as
we
go
forward
because,
as
I
understand
that
one
council
can't
find
the
next
council
so
two
years
from
now,
we
have
a
new
council
new
council
members.
This
mid
is
for
30
years
connect
the
ordinance
subject
to
be
recalled
and
if,
if
a
majority
council
voted
not
to
have
this
mid,
it'd
be
scuttled
or
are
we
stuck
for
30
years
as
a
city.
I
J
I'm
sorry,
mr
mayor,
and
I
I
definitely
want
to
hear
from
the
public,
but
I
have
one
more
question
by
virtue
of
objection
and
it
comes
back
to
city
council.
We
undertake
it.
Is
there
a
statutory
set
of
objective
criteria
against
which
we
weigh
the
objection,
or
can
someone
just
come
up
tonight
and
say
I
object?
I
don't
want
to
be
in
the
mid.
I
don't
want
to
pay
this
money
and
then
it
comes
to
us
to
consider.
I
I
So
so,
typically
the
fact
that
folks
would
be
expressing
concerns
about
misapplication
of
the
tests
that
have
already
been
approved
by
city
council,
for
example.
So
when
robert
showed
the
two
different
tests,
for
example-
so
I
don't
I
don't
qualify
under
either
test
would
be
the
type
of
objections.
But
it's
certainly
not
the
the
notice
of
the
objections
isn't
limited
to
that
kind
of
specificity.
J
C
Councilmember
bowden,
sorry,
oh,
he
did.
I
have
a
short
question
as
well
any
other
council
members
before
we
start,
and
so
if,
when
you
come
forward,
please
give
us
your
name
and
address.
If
you
have
your
tms
number,
that
would
be
great
and
and
be
could
we
try
to
keep
it
to
two
minutes
per
objection
and
understanding
that
city
council
is
allowed?
If
to
ask
your
question
as
well
all
right.
K
K
K
K
M
Bit
more
in
the
microphone,
my
name
is
neil
knutson,
my
wife
and
property
is
at
1442
mcpherson
landing.
The
tms
number
is
one
zero,
zero
zero
one.
Four
one
object
to
this
for
the
the
reason
the
infrastructure
is
already
there.
Rush
line
island
is
a
known
development
back
in
2005
it
had
125
home
sites,
there's
56
property
owners
out
there
with
vacant
lots.
M
There's
going
to
be
subject
this
tax,
it's
a
burden
for
every
homeowner,
that's
out
there
that
that
should
not
be
because
within
infrastructure
there,
it's
known
the
city
accepted
that
when
it
annexed
that
property
into
it-
and
now
it's
throwing
it
into
this
special
district
object
to
it,
and
I
think
all
56
people
out
there
in
councilman,
brady's
district
would
object
to
it.
Also.
M
L
M
They're
one
one
on
the
watch:
yes,
sir,
they
cannot
be
subdivided.
The
sewer
system
has
already
been
in
place.
The
sewer
taps
are
in
place,
the
electricity
taps
everything's
there,
the
my
wife
and
I
are
just
about
ready
for,
I
think
the
permit
has
been
approved
by
the
city
we
haven't
paid
for
chat.
It's
went
through
the
planning,
but
this
is
a
real
problem
for
homeowners.
Without
I
mean
we're
being
taxed
to
death
and
then
turn
around
and
have
this
on
top
of
it.
M
C
N
N
N
N
N
We
saw
the
mid
map
we
heard
from
mr
summerfield
that
this
is
a
distinct,
different,
distinct
mid
from
other
mids
that
have
been
established
in
this
state
and
the
problem
is
that
we're
not
looking
at
a
a
bull's-eye,
the
center
of
of
this
mid-map,
being
the
the
improvements
and
the
properties
to
to
fund
it
being
around
that
bull's
eye,
and
this
is
a
real
problem
it.
It
draws
into
question
the
legality
of
this
ordinance
and
the
enforceability
overall.
B
L
N
N
H
I
feel
that
surrounding
areas
close
to
my
property,
when
will
it
stop
the
property
at
plow
ground
exchange
landing
road
is
an
assessment,
and
when
will
it
reach
on
the
opposite
side
of
river
road
coming
on
exchange,
landing,
road
or
river
road
towards
the
johns
island
airport,
and
obviously
I'm
not
in
objection
to
it.
But
I
just
want
to
know
what
will
be
the
limitations
when
will
it
stop
or
will
this
could
be
a
more
as
we
used
to
say
decades
ago,
the
rally
reached.
C
I
understood
this
isn't
really
intended
as
a
question
and
answer
session,
but
we
have
your
name
and
number,
and
I
bet
staff
or
mr
cook
will
be
able
to
follow
up
with
a
question
unless
they
just
happen
to
know
it
right
now
and
want
to
respond.
But
I
don't
I
don't
think
so.
I
I
know
the
length
of
the
thing
is
30
years
and
and
robert
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
I
mean
we
set
these
tms
numbers,
it's
it's
not
going
to
expand.
Is
it
we
won't
be
adding
tms
numbers.
G
Yes,
so
the
geographic
boundaries
are
set,
they
cannot
change
unless
another
new
ordinance
in
this
entire
process
were
to
be
done
again
to
include
new
tsm
numbers,
so
those
geographies
are
set
now
again
if
a
property
subdivides
those
new
tsm
numbers
that
are
within
that
geographic
boundary,
those
would
be
in
the
mid.
But
that's
not
an
expansion.
That's
just
a
subdivision
of
existing
property,
that's
in
the
mid,
so
it
would
not.
O
It
also
ties
in
with
mr
knudson
his
explanation
that
he
he
had
I'd
like
to
stop
there
before
I
go
into
the
other
two,
because
you
made
a
comment
early,
that
john
donald
I'm
born
and
raised
here
on
john's
island.
I've
watched
it
grow.
You
said
john's
on
being
developed
without
the
infrastructure.
Why
did
you
let
that
happen?
O
You
know
you're
approving
these
permits
to
be
built
for
all
these
subdivisions
on
this
island,
the
roads
you're
choked
to
death.
You
can't
get
on
and
off
the
roads
during
prime
traffic
time
even
late
at
night.
Now
it's
dangerous
to
get
coming
getting
on
and
off
some
of
the
roads.
We
go
back
and
look
at
the
accidents.
That's
happening
on
john's
off,
so
you're
taxing
and
you're,
penalizing
people
that
have
a
plan
to
build,
but
not
everybody
on
the
island,
but
everybody's
going
to
benefit
from
what
you
plan
to
use
this
mid
money
for
okay.
O
O
It's
a
total
of
60
acres.
I
have
no
plans
to
develop
it.
It's
been
a
park
for
the
island.
It's
brought
a
lot
of
funded
island,
so
I
object
to
it.
But
for
those
reasons
too
again,
you're
penalizing
a
select
few
that
that
select
you
is
going
to
pay
for
it.
But
yet
the
whole
island
is
going
to
benefit
from
your
mid
construction
and
proposed
infrastructure.
You
plan
on
building,
but
you're.
Not
penalizing.
Are
you
not
restricting
the
permits
to
be
where
other
new
developments
are
built
on
the
out.
P
Good
evening
evening,
john
zlogger,
with
the
johns
island
task
force,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
really
appreciate
all
the
efforts
that
staff
went
through
in
terms
of
engaging
the
community.
There's
a
lot
of
meetings,
a
lot
of
feedback
and
the
overwhelming
feedback
from
john's
islanders
was
they
were
behind
this.
We
hope
you
really
think
really
hard
about
any
exceptions,
especially
for
large
developments.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
N
D
Yes,
sir
alan
mcmahon
with
the
beach
company
320
broad
street
charleston
south
carolina
29401
good
evening,
mr
mayor
members
of
council,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
all
tonight.
While
we
support-
and
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
beach
fenwick
llc,
let
me
clarify
which
owns
about
19
acres
along
maybank
highway.
D
D
That
reduction
can
have
significant
consequences
with
respect
to
underrepresented
requirements
and
loan
requirements
further.
Because
of
the
way
this
mid
and
the
associated
improvement
plan
is
structured,
it
is
not
clear
what
improvements
are
contemplated
or
when
and
where
they
will
take
place
due
to
a
lack
of
specificity.
It
is
also
apparent.
It
also
isn't
apparent
whether
folks
paying
these
fees
are
the
ones
actually
benefiting
from
these
hypothetical
improvements.
D
D
B
L
C
D
D
L
Mother
wants
to
know
why
you
haven't
been
over
to
her
house
for
dinner.
I
was
actually
there
last
night
on
a
serious
note.
The
number
that
you
just
gave
us
on
the
impact
you
went
through
this
a
little
quickly.
What
was
the
number
that
you
cited
for
us
as
to
the
overall
impact
over
the
30-year
period.
D
I'm
sorry
and
I
was
trying
to
look
at
my
notes
on
my
phone
but
as
I
understand
that
the
proposed
amount
is
480
per
residential
unit.
Our
our
project
is
mostly
single
occupant
studio
and
one
bedroom
units,
but
still
480,
but
if
you
and
it
doesn't
sound
like
a
lot,
but
if
you
then
multiply
that
by
240
units
the
impact
to
us
is
and
possibly
to
our
residents
is
115
000
a
year.
L
L
E
E
E
We
received
a
letter
from
walker,
aggressive,
freeman
and
linton
llc
that
addresses
the
firm
represents
speech.
Fenwick
llc
they
addressed
five
concerns.
Special
assessment
and
location
should
first
be
defined.
Improvements
must
be
funded
through
a
general
tax,
not
a
special
assessment.
The
selected
method
of
assessment
is
not
fair
or
equitable.
E
E
E
E
E
The
assessment
violated
south
carolina
code
5-37-80
because
the
rates
of
assessments
upon
property
owners
within
the
mid
varied
in
ways
that
were
not
proportional
to
the
improvements
made
immediately
adjacent
to
or
vetting
upon,
the
property
address.
We
received
a
letter
of
opposition
from
landing
rushlin,
which
was
annexed
into
the
city
of
charleston
in
2004.
E
E
We
received
a
letter
from
middleburg
communities
on
behalf
of
forest
maybank
objecting
to
inclusion
in
the
assessment
role
for
the
mid-ordnance.
We
also
received
a
letter
from
st
john's
center
llc
objecting
to
their
properties
being
included
in
the
assessment
role
for
the
mid
ordinance
and
those
were
all
the
comments
and
letters
we
received.
C
G
G
So
if
you-
but
you
have
not
completed
that
project,
meaning
you've
not
received
a
certificate
of
construction
completion,
so
those
are
the
two,
the
two
options
in
there.
So
one
is
looking
forward
where
we
don't
know,
if
they're
ever
going
to
subdivide
but
there's
a
good
chance
given
their
size,
given
the
nature
of
the
high
ground
that
may
exist
on
the
site
or
what
have
you
the
other
one
is
where
we
know
we
have
projects
that
are
currently
entitled,
but
they
have
not
been
completed
yet.
L
G
No
sir,
you
would
meet
the
you
would
meet
the
first
test,
so
you're
that
property
is
being
taxed
at
six
percent
because
it's
just
dirt.
There's
no
owner
occupied
residential
unit
on
it,
it's
greater
than
two
acres,
and
if
again,
assuming
in
that
scenario
that
you
are
in
the
the
city
of
charleston,
your
property
would
be
in
the
assessment.
But
again
you
never
will
see
an
assessment
on
your
tax
bill
until
such
point
as
you
subdivide
that
property.
G
Now,
if
you
take
that
10
acres-
and
you
create
five,
two
acre
lots,
then
each
of
those
five
two
acre
lots
when
they
build
their
home
will
see
the
four
hundred
and
eighty
dollars
compounded
at
two
percent
for
the
thirty
year
period,
but
until
that
trigger
until
that
house
is
built,
and
you
can
move
into
it.
That
assessment
will
never
be
seen
by
the
property
owner,
whether
it's
the
existing
property
owner
or
the
future
property
owner.
L
I
I
G
Correct
but
again
we
do
have
the
require
the
component
about
the
non-assessed
property.
So
if
you
meet
the
non-assessed
definition,
you're
also
not
going
to
be
assessed
as
well.
So,
even
if
you
do
something
and
you're
one
of
these
non-assessed
properties,
meaning
you're,
a
public
property
you're,
an
owner
association,
property
or
your
utility,
or
what
have
you
wouldn't
be
assessed?
L
C
G
D
D
G
Of
thing,
so
so
what
we
will
do
is
we
will
take
all
those
tms
some
numbers
or
addresses
that
were
received
tonight.
We
will
be
working
with
the
the
legal
team,
both
internal
and
mr
cook,
to
draft
a
memo
that
basically
provides
additional
facts.
That
staff
has
related
to
that
objection.
That
will
all
then
be
distributed
to
counsel
for
part
of
your
deliberations.
When
you
make
your
finding
on
whether
to
uphold
the
objection
or
to
reject
the
objection.
C
G
So
I
will
leave
it
to
jeremy
or
julia
to
talk
about
a
legal
reason
from
a
staff
perspective.
We
will
take
a
look
at
each
objection
and
see
if
we
made
any
errors
in
compiling
the
property
as
a
member
of
the
district
and
if
we
did
make
an
error
we'll
we'll
signify
that
and
give
that
to.
You
you're
then
consideration
to
uphold
the
objection,
but
in
the
absence
of
an
error,
I
don't
believe
this
this
mid
as
we've
established.
It
meets
the
criteria
by
which
we
were
asked
to
to
move
it
forward.
G
B
J
G
G
C
A
F
I
did
just
want
to
say-
and
I
think
mr
summerfield
addressed
this
as
well.
You
know
one
of
the
kind
of
peculiarities
of
the
law
is
that
the
mid
can't
be
used
to
address
currently
existing
problems.
They
have
to
address
kind
of
future
need
so
to
with
the
properties
that
have
been
included
to
think
that
we've
had
a
list
of
projects
for
development
that
has
not
yet
occurred,
and
it's
kind
of
counterintuitive.
I
think
for
most
people
again,
I'm
not
a
lawyer.
F
You
know
I'm
not
pretending
to
to
know
all
of
that,
but
we
wouldn't
develop
a
list
of
projects
for
property
to
yet
be
developed
because
we
don't
know
the
impacts
that
are
going
to
be
created
because
we
can't
solve
project
infrastructure
needs
that
have
already
occurred.
I
mean
the
law,
as
I
understand,
was
pretty
clear
about
that.
F
So
that's
why
we
want
to
create
a
citizens
advisory
commission
to
have
the
input
for
what
those
impacts
could
be,
but
we're
not
going
to
unilaterally
do
that
because
and
we
all
represent
citizens
until
we
get
redistricted.
I
represent
about
26
000
of
them,
so
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
their
voices
are
heard
in
this
process
and
it's
not
just
a
unilateral
decision
on
what
we
think
the
needs
might
be,
but
what
the
future
development
impacts
will
actually
occur
and
be.
Thank
you
miss
mayor.
B
C
You
all
right
any
other
questions
or
comments.
Hearing
none.
Our
next
council
meeting
is
tomorrow
night,
we'll
gather
back
at
city
hall.
I
think
4
30
for
ways
and
means
and
5
o'clock
for
council,
and
then
we
have
a
workshop
meeting
next
tuesday
february
15th
at
3
o'clock.
If
there's
no
other
business,
we
stand
adjourned.
Thank
you.
All
for
being
with
us
tonight
appreciate
y'all
coming
out.