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From YouTube: City of Charleston Council Meeting 10/13/20
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City of Charleston Council Meeting 10/13/20
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Here
and
councilmember
jackson
was
here
a
council
member
where
he
might
be
having
a
challenge
getting
signed
on.
I
see
him
coming
online
right
now
and
councilmember
wearing.
We
just
called
the
roll
we're
counting
you
present.
Thank
you.
You
are
on
our
agenda
to
give
our
invocation.
If
everyone
would
like
to
join
council
member
weary.
I
I
I
I
May
we
who
have
to
cancel
our
trips?
Remember
those
who
have
no
safe
place
to
go.
May
we
who
are
losing
our
margin
money
in
the
talmud
economic
market?
Remember
those
who
have
no
margin
at
all.
May
we
who
settle
in
for
a
quarantine
at
home?
Remember
those
who
have
no
home
as
fair
grips
our
country?
Let
us
choose
love
during
this
time
when
we
cannot
physically
wrap
our
arms
around
each
other.
Let
us
yet
find
ways
to
be
loving,
embrace
of
god
to
our
neighbors.
J
A
A
I
A
In
addition,
our
our
city
suffered
the
loss
of
judge
bernard
fielding,
who
served
many
years
in
the
probate
court
and
whose
family
is
well
recognized
here
in
their
funeral
services,
business
and
amazing,
individual
attorney,
judge
business
person,
human
being
and
judge
fielding.
So
I
did,
I
did
want
to
know
their
work,
extreme
value
to
our
city
and
their
passing.
A
A
He's
known
throughout
the
low
country
for
his
work
as
a
freelance
journalist
and
has
written
news
articles
and
columns
appearing
in
postal,
courier
and
other
at
the
chronicle
and
others
he
created
and
organized
a
town
hall
meeting
to
end
poverty
and
homelessness
in
charleston.
Thank
you
for
that.
Quentin,
since
2012
he's
hosted
and
produced
a
web
show
on
youtube
called
quentin's
close-ups.
During
this
time,
he's
conducted
thousands
of
101
interviews
with
prominent
charlestonians
and
other
south
carolina
public
figures
to
produce
his
show.
A
Quentin
works
independently
to
book
guests,
con
conduct,
research,
compose
questions
and
scripts
set
up
interviews
and
shoot,
and
edit
video
footage,
whereas
quentin
washington
recently
was
recognized
and
honored
by
the
united
states.
Congressman
joe
cunningham
on
the
floor
of
the
united
states
congress
for
clinton's
close-ups
in
2014
was
also
honored
by
the
south
carolina
house
of
representatives
for
outstanding
service
in
the
field
of
news
and
broadcast
journalism
for
the
remarkable
impact
of
clinton's
close-ups.
Therefore,
I
john
j
teklenberg
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston,
along
with
city
council,
proclaimed
tuesday
october
13th.
K
L
Quentin,
congratulations
on
being
honored
by
city
council
tonight,
so
happy
for
you
and
it's
so
well
deserved.
I've
always
admired
your
hard
work
and
dedication
to
providing
a
community
service
here
in
the
charleston
area,
and
I
know
so
many
others
are
appreciative
of
all
that
you
do
for
this
community.
It's
an
amazing
service,
and
thank
you
for
doing
that.
I
know
you
don't
do
it
for
the
accolades
or
the
recognition,
but
this
is
well
deserved.
Keep
doing
what
you're
doing
with
quinton's
close-ups
you're
so
appreciated
in
this
city.
M
Clinton
washington,
this
is
bill
sharp
and
congratulations
on
this
proclamation.
If
anybody
deserves
it
clinton,
it
is
you
you've
interviewed
so
many
low
country,
personalities,
tv
personalities
and
others,
including
wah.
Yours
truly,
and
you
always
do
a
great
job.
You
let
the
the
personality
himself
or
herself
tell
the
story,
and
that's,
I
think,
one
of
the
best
things
you
do.
One
of
the
many
good
things
excellent
things
about
your
interviewing
quentin.
Is
you?
Let
people
tell
their
story
so,
once
again,
quentin
washington,
we
love
you,
we
think
you're,
terrific
and
this
proclamation
is
well
deserved.
J
N
Hello,
my
name
is
layla
gulen
and
I'm
the
host
of
news
now
on
fox
24..
When
I
moved
here
five
years
ago,
I
soon
realized
that
I
chose
the
right
community
to
be
a
part
of
when
I
met
quinton
washington.
For
the
first
time
he
had
asked
to
interview
me
and
I
quickly
learned
that
I
was
about
to
join
a
very
impressive
roster
of
individuals
whom
he
chose
to
tell
their
stories
his
commitment
to
community
his
determination.
Getting
interviews.
G
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
so
much.
You
know,
quentin,
you
have
a
special
place
in
my
heart.
From
the
first
moment
I
met
you.
I
was
so
nervous
I
had
on
this
this
I
didn't
even
have
a
suit.
At
the
time
I
was
running,
I
was
wearing
like
a
some
sort
of
leather
jacket
and
you
didn't
dismiss
me
even
though
you
could
I'm
sure
you
could
tell.
I
had
no
idea
what
I
was
talking
about.
G
G
You
make
us
all
better
people
and
you
never
sugarcoat
anything.
You
know
you
don't
throw
softballs,
you
make
us,
do
our
jobs
better
and
we're
very,
very
lucky
to
have
you
in
this
city.
God
bless.
You
always
and
thank
you
for
your
friendship.
Everybody
here
is
a
friend
to
you,
because
you've
never
met
a
stranger,
and
I
hope
you
know
that
while
there
may
be
a
few
people
around
this
city
that
don't
show
you
the
respect
that
you've
earned
everybody
on
this
council
and
99.9
percent
of
this
community
love
you
with
our
whole
hearts.
A
A
A
He
wasn't
really
speechless.
After
all,
we
couldn't
hear
him
all
right,
happy,
quentin,
washington
day,
all
right,
so
we
have
one
other
proclamation.
This
is
recognizing
the
230th
anniversary
of
carolina
youth
development
center
and
they're,
almost
as
old
as
the
city
of
charleston.
Not
quite
but
any
organization,
that's
been
around
for
230
years
in
our
city
deserves
recognition,
but
particularly
when
you
do
such
good
things.
A
In
each
year,
cydc
serves
more
than
900
children
and
families
in
more
than
15
counties,
but
mostly
in
berkeley,
dorchester
and
charleston
counties
in
2019.
They
opened
new
house
first
independent
living
home
in
the
low
country,
completed
training
and
trauma,
informed
care
practices
for
all
staff,
open
a
teen
after
school
center
and
match
funding
from
south
carolina
department
of
social
services
same
year.
A
Whereas
the
city
of
charleston
would
like
to
thank
this
remarkable
organization
for
its
years
of
dedicated
service
to
the
charleston
community,
we
congratulate
them
on
their
230-year
anniversary.
Therefore,
I
john
j
teckenberg
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston.
You
hereby
proclaim
this
coming
saturday
october
17th
as
carolina
youth
development
center
day
in
the
city
of
charleston,
on
their
birthday,
councilmember
brady.
E
E
And
if
you
hear
my
dog
barking
in
the
background,
I
apologize,
but
I
have
the
distinct
pleasure
of
working
for
caroline
youth
development
center
and
being
able
to
come
to
work
every
day.
It's
an
immense
sense
of
pride,
not
just
for
the
the
long
history,
but
for
the
good
that
we
get
to
do
day
in
and
day
out
here
in
the
community
and
I'm
sorry
bev.
I
don't
have
a
video
but
I'd
love
to
turn
it
over
to
our
ceo
beverly
hardin,
and
hear
a
few
words
from
her
as
well.
O
Hey
ben
hey
there.
Thank
you
so
much
mayor
and
thank
you
so
much
to
the
city
council
for
this
wonderful
recognition.
We
really
really
appreciate
it.
It
is
quite
a
milestone
and
we're
so
proud
to
be
celebrating
our
230th
birthday.
That
just
doesn't
happen
very
often.
We
we
really
appreciate
the
proclamation.
O
We
are
so
thankful
that,
through
hurricanes
and
wars
and
floods
and
now
a
pandemic,
our
230
year
legacy
has
proudly
withstood
the
test
of
time
through
it
all
we've
grown
changed
transformed
and
we
continue
to
ensure
care
healing
and
preparation
for
south
carolina's
children
and
families.
Thank
you
for
this
proclamation
and
thank
you
for
your
commitment
and
service
to
our
community
and
our
children
and
families.
P
P
A
Q
C
R
Mayor,
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
quentin
had
found
a
way
to
unmute
himself
and
now
that
I've
got
the
floor,
I
just
want
to
recognize
quentin.
He
is
the
man
you
know
in
a
time
when
media
is
biased
from
the
left
and
from
the
right
you're
never
going
to
find
a
a
more
straight
shooter
than
quentin
washington
and
all
I'll
say
for
any
news.
Media
outlets
nationally,
regionally
locally
that
are
watching.
R
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
quentin.
I
want
to
say
congratulations,
but
he
has
a
unique
place
in
this
community
he's
in
he
comes,
I
guess,
investigative
journalism.
He
comes
with
a
smile
and
I
promise
you
after
the
hard
questions
and
everything's
over
with
he's,
going
to
leave
with
a
smile,
and
you
will
too
now.
I
don't
know
many
people
in
investigative
journalism
that
comes
out
that
way,
but
look
at
all
the
online
interviews.
I
A
Anyone
else
all
right
so
well
we're
recognizing
folks
he
he
is
not
expecting
this
and
might
even
be
embarrassed,
but
I
wanted
to
thank
councilmember
appel
and
his
wife
alexis
for
coordinating
and
and
providing
luncheon
one
day
recently
for
our
public
service
workers,
particularly
our
environmental
services
workers.
They
work
so
hard
they're
on
the
front
line
every
day
out
there,
looking
after
our
city
and
serving
our
citizens
and
council
member.
Thank
you
for
going
out
the
way
to
provide
a
rodney
scott
barbecue
luncheon
for
everybody.
A
I
think
it
was
week
before
last
appreciate
that
thought
that
effort
we
do
have
one
public
hearing
and
it's
a
requirement
of
this
justice
assistance
grant,
and
so
I'm
gonna
ask
chelsea
taylor,
I
believe
from
police
department
to
maybe
set
this
up
and
then
we'll
see.
If
anybody
has
any
comments,
chelsea
welcome.
S
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you,
council
members.
I'm
actually
going
to
pass
it
off.
First
to
deputy
chief
broughton
who's
on
the
call
she's
going
to
provide
a
brief
overview
of
some
of
our
collaboration
with
mental
health
practitioners
in
the
area
and
the
programs
that
cpd
has
been
undertaking
and
then
I'll
probably
take
it
back
over
from
there
after
she's
had
the
opportunity
to
speak.
T
T
T
T
I
just
want
to
say
this
grants
an
opportunity
to
continue
to
be
in
the
forefront
of
dealing
with
issues
in
law
enforcement
that
are
very
difficult
and
sometimes
challenging
to
go
out
on
any
time.
We
can
get
training
anytime.
We
can
collaborate
any
time.
We
can
give
tools
to
our
officers
to
ensure
that
we're
providing
that
population
of
mental
health,
substance,
abuse
disorder
and
homelessness.
T
S
So
the
purpose
of
this
grant
is
essentially
going
to
be
able
to
allow
the
department
to
revisit
our
calls
for
service
and
identify
some
of
those
calls
for
service
that
are
low-level
crimes.
So,
from
my
perspective,
as
the
the
grant
coordinator
having
that
data
available
is
extremely
helpful,
when
we're
pursuing
other
competitive
grants
to
try
to
look
at
co-responder
teams
further,
it's
going
to
train
an
entire
team
of
sub
subject
matter
experts
who
will
be
familiar
with
the
the
justice
system.
So
I
also
wanted
to
just
provide
a
brief
overview
of
the
work.
S
Cpd
has
undertaken
related
to
the
opiate
epidemic,
and
this
is
also
through
our
community
partnerships
and
other
grant
opportunities.
It
should
be
noted
that,
while
the
programs
that
I'll
discuss
began
as
a
response
to
the
opiate
epidemic,
these
initiatives
ultimately
seek
to
identify
rehabilitative
response
to
all
substance
use
disorders.
S
Since
february
of
2019,
cpd
has
been
a
partner
agency
in
the
addiction
crisis
task
force,
which
is
a
conglomerate
of
county
stakeholders
that
range
from
law
enforcement,
treatment
facilities,
peer
support
groups,
non-profit
organizations.
Among
many
many
many
others.
The
task
force
was
spearheaded
by
u.s
district
court,
judge
bruce
hendricks,
and
it
essentially
pulls
together
experts
across
these
fields
to
identify
gaps
in
services.
S
S
When
we
look
at
this
program
in
practice,
essentially
a
cpd
quick
response
officer
will
be
notified
that
an
overdose
occurred.
They
will
then
contact
and
pair
up
with
the
peer
recovery
coach
at
the
charleston
center
and
then
the
two
of
them
attempt
to
contact
the
individual
and
offer
them
local
resources.
S
In
addition
to
our
involvement
with
the
addiction
crisis
task
force,
we
did
recently
receive
a
grant
from
the
police
assisted
addiction,
recovery
initiative.
This
organization
is
best
known
by
its
acronym
pari
and
this
is
to
hire
on
a
capacity
building
position
through
their
americorps
vista
program.
So
the
position
will
assist
the
metro,
quick
response
team
and
the
task
force
with
evaluating
our
current
programs
related
to
mental
health,
substance
use
and
housing
instability
they're
going
to
assist
us
with
researching
credible
co-responder
models
and
solidify
our
existing
community
partnerships.
S
So
we've
not
yet
hired
anyone
on
for
this
position,
applicants
are
pre-screened
through
pari,
but
we
are
looking
forward
to
the
opportunity
to
support
and
create
non-arrest
pathways
to
treatment
and
recovery
and
we're
hopeful
that
we'll
be
able
to
take
more
informed
strides
towards
this
goal
with
the
support
of
our
community
partners.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
specific
questions
that
I
can
related
to
these
grants
or
the
grant
that's
currently
on
for
public
hearing,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
time.
A
U
Thank
you
mayor,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
with
us,
deputy
chief
and
chelsea.
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
know
your
title,
but
I
know
you're
doing
great
work
for
the
cpd,
bringing
in
very
innovative
and
collaborative
opportunities,
and-
and
I
I
think,
that's
just
really-
it's
a
no-brainer
to
sort
of
make
the
obvious
point
that
you
know
we.
We
are
hoping
to
impress
the
community
and
win
a
lot
of
friends
for
our
public
safety
division
and
the
way
that
we
are
approaching
doing
our
jobs
in
the
community
for
people.
U
We
all
know
that
there
are
many
reasons
that
the
police
are
on
the
front
line,
but
dealing
with
the
kinds
of
conditions
and
situations
that
you
were
just
explaining
to
us
chelsea.
So
I
I
do
feel
like
as
much
as
we
can
make
those
connections
for
people,
so
we're
not
seen
as
some
monolithic
policing
department,
but
we
are
doing
the
work
that
the
community
needs
done
to
provide
true
safety
and
health
for
our
our
citizens
and
I'm.
U
I
just
can't
be
prouder
to
be
on
this
team,
with
y'all
hearing
a
little
bit
behind
the
scenes.
What
you
and
and
wendy
stiver
are
up
to
in
in
recent
months.
It's
just
it's
just
amazing
to
think
that
we
have
these
jumping
off
places
that
we
can
all
go
together.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
being
with
us.
I
really
appreciate
what
you
told
us
tonight.
A
Opioid
and
substance
abuse
issues,
it's
just
an
incredible
holistic
approach,
in
addition
to
the
mainstay
job
of
crime
enforcement
law
enforcement
that
that
you
all
provide
our
community.
It's
just
amazing.
Thank
you
all
right.
So
next
is
our
approval
of
city
council
minutes.
I
think
we
got
september.
A
A
B
B
B
A
V
W
V
Door
absolutely
yes,
my
name
is
zoe
berg,
I'm
the
project
director
for
americans
for
responsible
technology,
we're
a
national,
science-based
environmental
health,
non-profit
organization
in
new
york.
We
work
with
municipalities
across
the
country
to
protect
residents
interests
when
dealing
with
the
telecom
industry's
deployment
of
wireless
equipment
and
public
rights
of
way.
V
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
thanks.
So
much
for
your
time
today,
despite
the
recent
passing
of
h4262
aka,
the
telecom
giveaway
act,
there
remain
effective
local
measures
that
the
charleston
city
council
can
take
to
protect
constituents,
particularly
in
residential
areas,
from
5g
small
cell
antennas.
V
Insurance
companies
generally
regard
wireless
radiation.
As
pollution.
I
was
speaking
with
a
woman
from
westchester
new
york
just
the
other
day,
who
recently
had
a
5g
antenna
installed
20
feet
outside
of
her
bedroom
window,
an
ugly
gray
ominous
looking
structure
immediately
after
the
installation.
She
started
having
two
to
three
nosebleeds
a
day,
once
highly
athletic
and
healthy
she's
now
constantly
dizzy,
nauseous
and
fatigued.
Her
local
legislators
won't
do
anything
to
help
her.
She
can't
afford
to
move
and
she
fears
for
the
health
and
safety
of
her
children
and
husband.
X
Thank
you
good
evening,
cassian
dralet
with
historic,
charleston
foundation.
The
foundation
remains
opposed
to
demolition
of
the
st
julian
divine
smokestacks,
as
we
believe
they're
a
defining
feature
of
the
east
coast,
the
eastside
skyline,
and
we
wish
for
the
city
to
be
committed
to
its
own
var
ordinances
and
become
a
preservation
example
for
chelsea's.
X
X
I'm
encouraged
somewhat
by
the
way
the
means
discussion
from
earlier
today.
Hcf
is
supportive
of
hitting
pause.
That's
what
we've
been
asking
council
to
do
we're
supportive
of
the
task
force
to
give
us
some
clear
input
and,
as
we
learn
more
information
on
the
condition
of
the
stacks
to
address
the
financing
conundrum
that
we
face
and
dramatically
cut
the
risk
and
protect
the
community
that
lives
adjacent
to
the
stacks.
X
We've
not
exhausted
all
our
avenues
to
finding
a
solution,
and
again
we
asked
city
council
to
to
follow
the
lead
of
ways
and
means
earlier
today
and
and
grant
a
reprieve
from
the
demolition
order,
grant
that
task
force
the
appropriate
time
that
is
going
to
be,
I
think,
a
group
of
right
minds
to
find
a
safe
solution
so
that
the
iconic
smoke
stacks
are
not
lost.
It
was
councilman
shade.
I
think
who
said
earlier
that
once
the
smoke
sacks
are
gone,
they're
lost
forever.
B
Z
Welcome
good
evening
christopher
king
with
the
preservation
society,
I
wanted
to
thank
quickly
council
member
shead
for
bringing
forward.
I
think,
a
good
plan
path
forward
for
the
smokestacks
and
really
appreciate
and
want
to
thank
all
members
of
the
council
for
the
conversation
tonight
and
mostly
want
to
just
thank
you
all
for
listening
to
the
community
on
this
and
we're
excited
about
you
all,
creating
the
opportunity
for
us
to
work
with
you.
Z
Obviously,
our
goal
is
for
the
preservation
and
we're
going
to
work
as
hard
as
we
can
for
that
outcome,
but
also
think
it's
equally
important.
The
council
is
presented
with
the
information
necessary
to
make
the
best
decisions,
as
well
as
to
uphold
your
processes,
and
we
have
that
opportunity
announced.
So
we
are
most
appreciative
for
that
and
want
to.
Thank
you.
We
continue
to
believe
that
we
can
work
together
to
ensure
the
best
outcome
for
the
east
side,
and
we
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
Thank
you.
B
Stacy
hudson,
that
was
all
that
we
had
to
sign
up
to
speak
and
then
we
did
receive
some
comments.
31
people
wanted
to
encourage
city
council
to
preserve
the
saint
julian
divine
community
center
smokestacks,
as
it
is
an
integral
structure
of
the
east
side.
Community
one
person
said
the
public
said:
public
input
needs
to
be
allowed
for
further
discussion
of
laurel
island
development.
B
A
A
Y
Okay,
so
I'm
also
speaking
on
behalf
of
charleston
coalition
for
wireless
safety
standards,
and
I
want
to
say
as
well
that
the
passing
of
the
small
cell
facility
act
does
not
mean
all
local
involvement
and
small
cell
infrastructure
ends.
Charleston
residents
are
not
opposing
technology,
we're
looking
for
a
way
to
keep
small
cell
antennas
out
of
our
neighborhoods
and
away
from
schools.
Y
Y
Y
Charleston
residents
are
asking
for
quote:
fiber
to
the
home,
fiber
can
be
run
into
individual
homes,
just
as
copper
wire
was
run
by
the
companies.
Many
years
ago,
telecom
companies
are
already
using
vast
amounts
of
fiber
optics
to
send
clear
signals,
much
further
distances
than
wireless,
but
they
stop
short
of
running
fiber
into
homes.
When
excellent
speed
and
quality
are
delivered
to
the
home
via
wire,
the
home
owner
can
then
decide
whether
to
hardwire
home
devices
or
to
use
wi-fi.
Y
Of
course,
the
safe
option
is
to
hardwire
devices,
but
the
homeowners
should
have
a
choice.
Our
choice
is
taken
away
when
wi-fi
is
mounted
on
the
lamp
post
outside
our
homes
and
that
can
be
avoided.
So
please
be
sensitive
to
citizens
need
to
have
a
say
about
the
types
of
exposures
we're
subjected
to
and
to
control
our
health.
If
these
small
cell
antennas
are
placed
near
our
homes
and
schools,
we
simply
won't
be
able
to
get
away
from
this
rf
microwave
radiation.
Y
A
A
A
You
so
next
up
is
petitions
and
communications,
and
I
would
kindly
ask
forbearance
of
counsel
to
to
allow
me
to
defer
the
tourism
commission
appointments,
because
there's
a
few
people
that
may,
after
after
all,
may
not
be
able
to
serve
and
and
there's
not
a
commission
meeting
between
now
and
our
next
council
meeting.
So
I
will
come
back
to
you
for
our
next
meeting
and
after
second.
J
C
AA
AB
AB
AB
Okay,
so
I'll
be
I'll,
be
very
brief
in
in
my
update
tonight.
I
think
everyone
knows
our
local
numbers
remain
low,
which
is
which
is
very
good.
Just
a
quick
update
on
employee
cases
still
no
new
hospitalizations,
which
is
excellent.
We
do
currently
have
just
one
active
case
with
our
numbers
being
low.
We
did
move
into
phase
three
of
our
opening
plan.
That
became
effective
october,
the
fifth,
the
biggest
change
with
our
move
to
phase
three
was
that
city
buildings
have
returned
to
their
normal
security
access.
AB
AB
However,
when
there
are
when
there
is
a
need
for
in-person
meetings,
mass
are
required,
distancing
is
required
and
conforming
to
posted
occupancy
limits
on
conference
rooms
and
offices,
and
we're
also
trying
to
be
very
cognizant
of
time,
because
we
know
that
this
is
airborne
now,
so
that
time
factor
is
a
is
a
trigger.
When
we
talk
about
contact
tracing
so
we're
asking
when
it
is
when
it
is
necessary
that
we
limit
those
to
less
than
15
minutes.
AB
So,
what's
what's
happening
kind
of
at
the
local
level
here
this
is
just
an
updated
chart.
I've
shown
you
this
before,
but
it
looks
at
the
city
new
cases.
Those
are
the
gray,
the
gray
bars
compared
to
the
county,
what's
happening
in
charleston
county
and
the
number
of
tests
performed.
So
that's
the
number
of
tests
is
the
is
the
red
line
at
the
top.
AB
AB
If
you
will
so
that's
the
that's
the
blue
and
then
we
can
see
that
infection
rate
on
the
orange
line
and
then
up
here
this
dashed
line,
which
is
the
1.0
for
our
infection
rate,
that's
our
threshold
of
when
we
might
need
to
go
backwards.
If,
if
that
does
happen,
so
that's
kind
of
we're
trending
a
little
upwards,
but
we're
we're
still
below
that
threshold,
which
is
which
is
very
good.
AB
I've
shown
this
before
so
I
thought
it
was
good
to
put
these
in
context
with
over
time,
and
this
comes
from
the
johns
hopkins
school
of
public
health.
So
here's
the
snapshot
way
back
in
september,
where
south
carolina
was
very
neutral
in
color.
Remember
this
is
the
redder.
It
is
cases
are
increasing
the
greener,
the
the
more
the
cases
are
decreasing.
So
back
on
september
21st
we
were,
we
were
at
least
a
nice
pale
green
in
south
carolina
and
just
yesterday
I
pulled
this
again
from
jhu.
AB
AB
His
team
was
invaluable
in
helping
us
develop
the
metrics
that
guide
our
city-phased
reopening
plan,
he's
been
beyond
generous
and
sharing
both
his
time
and
his
knowledge
with
us.
He
is
a
tenured
professor
of
psychiatry
and
behavioral
sciences
at
the
medical
university
of
south
carolina
and
director
of
the
musc
center
for
global
health.
AC
Great,
thank
you
tracy
just
to
say
I've
enjoyed
working
with
you
immensely.
I
appreciate
all
your
support
as
well
we're
all
in
this
together.
So
I
can't
tell
you
how
much
I
enjoyed
working
with
you,
mayor,
teckenberg
and
members
of
the
council.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
come
today
and
share
with
you
a
few
evolving
issues
that
are,
I
think,
important
as
we
move
forward
into
the
winter.
AC
Can
you
see
my
slides?
Okay?
Yes,
sir,
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
little
background.
We
set
up
the
cover,
19,
epidemiology
intelligence
project,
really
right
when
the
epidemic
kicked
off
and
our
goal
has
been
to
track
closely
the
trends
and
events
and
science
that's
going
on
around
cova
to
try
to
help
inform
decision,
making
and
track
what's
happening
with
the
epidemic
and
as
we're
moving
into
the
winter.
AC
AC
It's
been
an
evolving
issue
in
terms
of
science
and
trying
to
understand,
what's
happening
and
really
every
week
we're
getting
more
information.
So
I'm
going
to
highlight
a
few
things
that
we've
been
honing
in
on.
The
first
point
I
want
to
make
is
you
know,
coveted
19
outbreaks,
we're
seeing
this
over
and
over
that
they
can
become
widespread
quickly
and
that's
true.
Even
when
case
numbers
are
very
low.
AC
It's
kind
of
striking
our
typical
thinking
about
epidemics
is
we
drive
the
cases
down
and
we
sort
of
move
forward
and
get
back
to
normal,
but
with
this
epidemic,
given
the
contagiousness
of
kova
19,
you
can
drive
those
numbers
down
and
they
can
rapidly
accelerate
and
we're
seeing
that
in
multiple
places.
The
other
observation
we're
seeing
now
is
that
second
surges
are
proving
to
be
worse
than
first
surges
and
it's
something
we
need
to
keep
our
eye
on,
because
we
just
went
through
a
significant
surge
over
the
summer.
AC
And
finally,
I
want
to
add
that
our
ability
to
detect
these
outbreaks
is
lagged.
It's
delayed,
so
these
things
can
blow
up
before
we
have
a
chance
to
really
detect
them
and
just
to
make
that
point.
This
is
from
charleston
the
charleston
area
that
we've
been
tracking
and,
as
you
know,
our
we
had
the
initial
little
surge,
little
blip
really
when
the
epidemic
first
kicked
off
and
we
drove
those
numbers
down
to
extremely
low
levels
and
then
late
in
I
guess
that
was:
may
the
epidemic
just
exploded
rapidly.
AC
So
these
can
these
can
happen
very
very
quickly.
Our
ability
to
detect
this
is
is
limited
because
we
do
we
rely.
Our
first
indicator
really
has
been
primarily
diagnosed
cases
that
we
get
reported,
but
people
don't
go
and
get
tested
instantly,
there's
typically
a
delay
of
seven
to
ten
days
before
that
data.
Those
data
become
available,
which
means
you
could
have
these
explosions
before
we
really
detect
them.
So
it's
just
an
important
point
to
note-
and
I
think
you
can
see
that
here.
AC
This
sort
of
this
is
from
europe
the
number
of
cases
per
day
per
100
000
people
over
time.
For
example,
if
you
just
take
spain,
this
first
blip-
I
mean
it,
just
rapid
explosion
occurred
and
they
very
effectively
drove
those
numbers
down.
The
point
I
want
to
make
here
is
this:
they're
now
into
a
second
surge,
which
has
exceeded
the
first
surge
same
is
true
in
france,
it's
more
than
three
times
the
number
of
cases
per
day
now
being
detected.
AC
The
uk-
and
this
is
true
in
country
after
country
that
we're
seeing
in
europe
and
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
some
issues
related
to
the
potential
impact
of
the
winter
weather.
Second
point
I
want
to
make
is
that
I
just
think
it's
remarkable
how
behavioral
prevention
has
proven
to
be
so
highly
effective.
AC
It's
really
remarkable
what
can
happen
when
people
distance,
wear,
masks
wash
their
hands
and
avoid
indoor
settings,
and
it's
remarkably
effective
I'd,
add
to
that
that
policy-based
restrictions
they
do,
I
think,
change
behaviors,
but
it's
both
direct
and
indirect,
and
just
to
make
that
point.
This
is
a
metric
that
we
look
at,
which
is
called
the
are
not,
and
it
really
tells
you
the
number
of
people
that
each
person
infected
is
going
on
to
infect
and
the
big.
AC
This
is
for
charleston
county
actually,
and
in
the
beginning
of
this
epidemic
we
had
just
an
explosive
number
of
people
getting
infected
from
other
people
up
in
the
range
of
eight
and
nine
from
each
person
who
was
infected
that
dramatically
declined
when
the
word
got
out
and
people
became
more
aware,
and
we
learned
a
little
bit
about
distancing
and
such
and
lockdowns
occurred.
Those
lockdowns
were
incredibly
effective
when
that
value
goes
below
one.
The
epidemic
will
start
to
diminish
and
if
it
goes
below
one
for
long
enough,
it
will
go
away.
AC
So
we
hovered
down
below
one
and
then
right
here.
Just
around
memorial
day,
those
lockdowns
were
lifted
and
immediately
we
went
above
one
substantially
and
stayed
there
for
a
period
of
time
which
led
to
that
massive
outbreak
that
we
saw
in
the
summer
right
around
the
middle
part
of
july.
Efforts
were
made
to
amplify
use
of
mask
and
to
the
credit
of
the
council.
Those
policies
that
were
put
in
place,
I
believe,
drove
that
number
back
down
and
has
stayed
down
round
one
or
below
and
until
recently
we're
starting
to
see
some
blips.
AC
This
first
blip
occurred
right
around
labor
day
and
the
and
the
second
one
occurred
right
around
the
time.
The
students,
I
believe,
came
back
from
university.
We
don't
know
for
sure,
but
those
are
suspect
events
that
occurred.
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
when
I
say
that
these
policies
are
both
direct
and
indirect.
Certainly,
the
policies
themselves
had
some
impact
because
people
felt
compelled
to
to
follow
them,
but
I
think
when
they're
lifted
in
particular,
it
signals
to
people
that
things
are
better
and
I
believe
that
is
what
happened
around
this
time.
AC
There
was
a
lot
of
beliefs
out
there
that
the
epidemic
was
under
control.
Everything
was
fine
and
people
went
out
and
interacted
and
rapidly
we
saw
a
massive
outbreak.
So
I
just
would
encourage
you
to
consider
that,
when
you're,
considering
whether
to
put
on
or
take
off
restrictions,
I'm
not
a
believer
that
we
should
live
under
perfect
restrictions,
but
I
think
the
way
it's
done
when
it's
tied
to
metrics,
which
I
know
you're
doing
very
carefully-
is
an
important
strategy
to
take.
AC
The
third
point
here
I
think,
there's
there's
strong
emerging
evidence
that
infections
among
young
adults
is
initiating
outbreaks
and,
as
time
passes
in
an
outbreak,
older
people
become
infected
from
those
younger
people.
So
it's
a
critical
target
group
we
need
to
hone
in
on.
I
just
want
to
point
out
a
few
things
out.
AC
If
you
really
drill
down
on
this,
it's
really
young
adults,
it's
really
people
between
17
and
21
22
that
are
accounting
for
the
vast
majority
of
the
new
infections
that
are
occurring,
and
you
can
see
the
decline
in
the
median
age
that
has
occurred
over
time.
There's
been
a
new
study
that
just
came
out
by
cdc
just
a
few
days
ago,
really
excellent
study
they
conducted
where
they
tracked.
AC
They
went
into
700
over
700
hot
spots
in
the
country
and
look
closely
retrospectively
at
the
infection
rates
among
different
age
groups,
and
they
found
two
key
things.
One
is:
the
epidemics
are
typically
initiated.
These
slopes
go
up
first
about
a
month
before
they're
detected
as
a
hot
spot
among
people
18
to
24
years
old
and
then
within
about
two
or
three
weeks.
AC
You
begin
to
see
increases
occurring
in
people
in
older
age
groups,
so
again,
very
strong
evidence
that
what's
driving
outbreaks
primarily
is
infections
among
young
people,
that's
eventually
transmitting
on
to
the
older
population.
Next
point
I
want
to
make
is
new
information,
which
was
mentioned.
Tracy
mentioned
this
about
aerosol
transmission
being
recognized
as
a
risk.
This
really
raises
questions
about
our
recommendations
for
the
six
six
foot
distancing
indoors,
and
this
just
quoting
the
cdc
here.
AC
I
won't
go
through
the
whole
slide,
but
they
recently
recognized
the
fact
that
people
are
being
infected
through
aerosols,
aerosols,
meat,
being
very
small
particles
that
are
expelled
when
people
breathe
or
sing
or
talk,
and
they
can
accumulate
and
float
in
the
air
for
hours
in
enclosed
spaces,
particularly
where
there's
poor
ventilation,
and
particularly
when
people
are
shouting
or
singing
or
exercising
bars.
You
get
a
lot
of
loud
talking.
AC
There
have
been
multiple
outbreaks
among
coral
groups,
who've
practiced
indoors.
One
was
just
reported
several
days
ago.
So
again,
this
has
a
strong
impact
on
recommendations
around
distancing
and
also
ventilation,
and
what
could
be
done
in
places
like
restaurants,
where
you
could
easily
just
open
windows,
even
if
it's
cooler
outside
it
can
make
a
significant
difference.
AC
Another
study
that
just
came
out
this
summer,
where
they
looked
at,
went
back
and
did
case
analyses
of
multiple
of
over
300
people
that
were
infected
across
11
different
facilities
and
they
looked
at
a
host
of
factors
that
people
had
engaged
in
in
the
previous
two
weeks
and
the
only
two
that
showed
significance
were
visiting
a
restaurant
or
busi
visiting
a
bar
or
a
coffee
shop.
And
what
the
point
here
is
this
line
if
it
cross.
If
these
bars
cross
that
line
it
means
it's
not
significant.
AC
Another
point
to
make
there's
emerging
data-
it's
not
perfect,
but
it's
suggesting
that
cooler
weather
is
maybe
associated
with
outbreaks
and
can
and,
conversely,
hotter
weather
may
be
associated
with
outbreaks
in
places
with
heavy
air
conditioner
use,
and
I'm
just
have
a
couple
of
graphs
to
point
that
out.
This
is
the
current
map
of
the
us,
similar
to
what
tracy
showed
you
these.
The
current
places
with
really
explosive
epidemics,
high
rates
of
infection,
north
dakota,
south
dakota,
montana,
wisconsin,
utah,
nebraska,
this
whole
area
and
the
north
northern
part
on
the
border
with
canada.
AC
It's
getting
cooler.
People
are
coming
inside,
there's
a
really
massive
epidemic
happening
in
the
fox
river
valley
around
green
bay.
So
what
we
saw
was
the
first
outbreak
in
new
york
during
a
cooler
season
when
things
warmed
up
it
moved
to
the
south
and
then,
when
things
are
cooling
down,
we're
seeing
it
outbreaks
in
these
areas
and
that's
a
signal
that
perhaps
cooler,
weather
or
hotter
weather
when
people
use
air
conditioning
is
associated
with
outbreaks.
This
is
just
another
analysis
breaking
out
the
different
states.
AC
These
are
the
average
temperatures
across
the
bottom
and
when
it's
cooler,
these
these
locations
are
the
ones
that
have
the
highest
rates
of
transmission,
and
this
was
for
recently.
If
you
look
back
over
the
summer.
This
reverses,
where
you
see
the
higher
rates
with
the
higher
temperatures
and
then
finally,
here
looking
at
europe,
one
more
time
just
to
note
that
they
had
an
incredibly
high
rate
of
transmission
as
soon
as
it
warmed
up.
It
went
down
and
you
might
expect
warm
weather
to
be
associated
with
higher
rates.
AC
However,
in
europe
they
don't
use
air
conditioning
like
we
do
so.
This
is
leading
many
people
now
to
wonder
whether
cooler
weather
coming
is
going
to
create
problems
for
us.
I
just
want
to
summarize
a
few
key
points.
I
think
there
are
multiple
risks
that
are
potentially
converging
as
we
move
forward
into
the
fall
and
winter
and
one
is
the
holidays.
Coming
there's
going
to
be
incredible:
cultural
pressure
for
people
to
gather
in
groups
and
indoors,
because
it's
a
winter
time
situation,
the
other
one
is
transmission
from
youth.
AC
But
as
you
get
older
in
high
school
and
approach
college
age,
the
transmissions
rates
seem
to
shoot
up
and
we
know
that
universities
have
had
a
poor
track
record
on
containment
and
high
transmission
probability.
As
I
pointed
out,
and
then
the
fatigue
I
mean
we're
facing
fatigue,
people
have
been
on
restricted
activities
for
seven
months
now.
I
think
we
know
from
strong
evidence
from
behavioral
science
that,
after
three
months,
people
have
a
difficult
time.
AC
Maintaining
that
this,
what
we
call
the
paradox
of
prevention,
where,
when
things
are
better
and
people,
perceive
that
the
problem
is
more
under
control,
they
begin
to
take
more
risk
at
the
time
they
need
to
engage
in
the
prevention.
The
most
often
is
when
people
are
the
least
willing
to
do
it,
and
then
these
issues
with
aerosol
transmission,
I
think,
are
important,
because
if
we
have
more
indoor
gatherings
in
the
colder
weather
that
suggests
that
aerosols
could
lead
to
significant
outbreaks
and
finally,
just
winter
shifting
into
more
indoors.
AC
So
we
do
see
a
sort
of
confluence
of
potential
risk
going
forward
and
I
don't
mean
to
be
too
negative,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
vigilant
as
we
proceed
and
attend
to
these
things.
So
I
just
want
to
end
on
that,
and
also
just
to
give
some
thanks
to
my
project
team.
These
have
been
incredible.
People,
including
several
medical
students,
who've
been
donating
their
time
to
help
weed
through
all
these
data
that
we
collect
regularly.
So
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
A
A
A
AD
Are
you
out
there
I'm
out
here
good
afternoon
everybody
good
evening?
We
have
two
emergency
ordinances
to
consider
tonight:
they're,
actually,
amendments
to
previous
emergency
ordinances
that
you've
all
approved
the
first
one
item.
I3
is
basically
incorporating
some
recent
changes
that
were
issued
by
the
governor
in
his
executive
order
on
october.
7..
Excuse
me
second,
and
there
he
lifted
the
occupancy
restrictions
on
restaurants
and
bars.
AD
However,
the
governor's
order
did
incorporate
a
series
of
restrictions
and
conditions
that
were
placed
upon
restaurants
and
bars
for
their
continued
operations
during
this
emergency
time,
and
we
have
verbatim
incorporated
those
into
our
ordinance
and
you'll
see,
there's
a
number
of
items
there.
I
think
there's
actually
a
total
of
of
20
different
ones
and
again
these
are
all
items
that
were
included
in
the
governor's
executive
order
having
to
do
with
masks
and
requiring
employees
to
be
tested
and
sanitation
and
and
other
good
practices.
AD
However,
there
is
also
a
provision
in
there
that
requires
staff
to
take
a
look
at
our
current
zoning
regulations
and
other
ordinances,
with
an
eye
toward
making
the
temporary
regulations
that
are
contained
in
our
emergency
ordinance
to
move
toward
making
those
permanent
to
help
the
restaurant
industry.
So
that
is
the
second
emergency
ordinance
that
we're
asking
for
approval
tonight.
That's
item
i4.
A
D
F
Just
just
a
brief
question
for
for
mr
dina:
is
there
a
point
at
which,
under
the
emergency
ordinance
that
we
are
due
to
get
a
report
back
from
the
planning
staff
about
taking
out
the
temporary
portion
of
the
zoning
ordinance
for
the
outdoor
dining
and
making
it
more
permanent?
I
mean
at
some
point.
We
need
to
bisect
those
and
get
that
on
our
agenda
going
forward.
So
we're
not
doing
all
this
at
one
night.
AD
U
U
It's
been
a
few
weeks
since
the
market
opened
to
the
produce
vendors
only-
and
I
know
that
the
other
vendors
are
still
very
you
know
keen
on
on
getting
out
to
be
able
to
sell
their
own
crafts
as
as
as
soon
as
possible.
So
I'm
hoping
that,
maybe
you
can
give
us
an
update
and
I'm
sorry
to
add
it
on
to
this
conversation,
but
there's
really
no
other
good
place
in
the
agenda.
Thanks.
A
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we
were
doing
that
kind
of
step
by
step
this
saturday
we'll
be
reopening
the
esplanade
along
the
king
street
side
with
a
a
number
of
the
other
vendors,
not
farmers
but
other
vendors,
and
I
think
we're
going
to
rotate
for
just
a
couple
of
weeks,
give
everybody
an
opportunity,
but
not
have
everybody
at
once
and
they're
planning
a
full
holiday
market.
Also,
you
know
leading
up
to
the
holiday
season.
So
it's
it's
happening.
U
A
G
L
N
A
A
AB
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
and
good
evening
again
everyone.
So
I
want
to
really
thank
rick
and
wes
for
for
all
the
work
that
they
did
in
gathering
information.
This
was
a
serious
team
effort
to
to
put
this
in
front
of
you
all
tonight,
and
even
though
I'm
going
to
be
speaking,
they
are
available
to
answer
questions
so.
AB
You
know,
I
think
the
first
point
here
is
that
this
is
really
about
risk
reduction
and
not
elimination
right,
so
elimination
is
going
to
be.
We
continue
to
meet
via
zoom
or
there's
a
vaccine
in
place,
so
probably
the
most
important
things
when
we
talk
about
health
and
safety
and
risk
reduction,
I'm
kind
of
like
our
phase
reopening
plan
in
the
city
we're
talking
about
masks
spacing
and
time
so
you
know
jan
park.
AB
AB
So
there
is
that
risk,
so
we
would
so
mass
would
be
required
at
all
times
and
because
of
that
increased
risk
of
transmission
with
time
and
indoors,
we
have
to
reduce
the
risk
in
other
places,
so
so
we're
going
to
do
that
in
areas
such
as
distance,
so
the
distance
between
everyone
would
be
greater
than
six
feet.
If
you
will
so
we'd
have
a
check-in
station
for
the
public
that
wanted
to
attend.
This
would
include
temperature
checks,
as
well
as
a
covid
questionnaire
that
would
be
most
likely
performed
by
our
wellness
and
safety.
Folks.
AB
We
have
signage
right
to
help
everyone
tran
move
safely
around
and
to
navigate
how
just
to
navigate
good
traffic
flow
so
that
we
don't
have
people
bunching
up.
If
you
will
and
of
course
we
need
additional
staff
to
to
assist
with
that
traffic
control,
traffic
flow
and
occupancy
awareness
and
managing
a
staging
area.
If
that
would
be
needed.
AB
The
locations
and
capacity
so
we've
looked
at.
We
looked
at
a
number
of
places
that
we
could
do
this
and
what
and
what,
where
we
ended
up
as
really
the
best
option
was
using
the
gill
yard
and
we
would
use
the
ballrooms
one
and
two
ballroom.
One
would
be
for
council
and
staff
that
could
be
up
to
21
occupants,
and
we
would
then
use
the
ballroom
two
for
the
public
and
that
could
be
up
to
50
occupants
then.
AB
So,
obviously,
it
would
just
be
one
big
room,
but
we
did
that
kind
of
just
to
for
measuring
and
purpose
and
and
kind
of
sequestering
blocking
off
spaces,
so
costs
there's
no
rental
fee
for
us
to
use
it.
However,
there
would
be
some
gc
staff,
some
gillyard
center
staff.
That
would
need
to
be
there
as
well
some
cleaning
that
would
need
to
be
handled
for
575,
that's
for
each
meeting
and
then
the
city
would
also
be
responsible
for
security,
as
well
as
doing
the
temperature
checks.
AB
This
also
includes
the
videographer
that
would
record
and
live
stream
to
youtube.
Just
like
we
do.
However,
this
this
proposal
does
not
allow
for
virtual
participation.
The
technology
was
simply
too
complicated
and
too
expensive
to
really
make
this
work
and
west
west
can
is
available.
If
there's
some
questions
or
concerns
about
that,
but
it
was,
but
it
would
also
include
two
large
displays
a
laptop
and
connectivity,
so
we
could
have
presentations
done
as
well.
AB
Citizen
engagement,
so
citizens
could
still
submit
their
comments
for
citiz
for
online
for
citizens,
participation
or
public
hearings
just
like
they
do
now,
so
that
would
that
would
continue
they
would
they
would
have
to
sign
up
to.
They
would
have
to
be
in
person
to
to
sign
up
to
speak,
so
they
would
have
to
show
up
and
sign
up
there
and
it
would
be
attendance,
and
speaking,
would
obviously
just
be
first
come
first
serve
and,
like
I
said
before,
there'd
be
a
check-in
station,
along
with
the
temperature
checks
and
cova
questionnaire.
AB
AB
AB
We
really
can't
tell
them
they
they
can't,
but
we
would
have
to
consider
what
what
that
might
look
like
so
ada
considerations.
Honestly.
That
would
really
just
be
like
it.
It
used
to
be
that
they
would
need
to
register
with
janet
schumacher
in
advance,
and
we
would
do
everything
we
could
to
accommodate
them.
AB
You
know
just
make
sure
that
public
participation
happens
as
early
in
the
meeting
as
possible,
and
so
the
minimum
cost
for
for
each
meeting
would
be
around
3
500
and
plus
we,
we
figure
with
just
the
number
of
staff
that
will
need
to
manage
kind
of
traffic
flow
and
the
wellness
checks
and
whatnot.
There
will
probably
be
some
staff
over
time
as
well.
AB
Another
consideration
is
simply
that
we've
started
to
track
our
the
number
of
engagements
that
we've
had
through
all
of
our
online
meetings,
and
I
just
thought
we
thought
that
you
all
might
find
this
interesting.
So
jennifer
told
this
that
in
2019
there
were
319
comments
via
phone
and
in
person
and
then
the
chart
below
shows
our
engagements
with
city
council
just
since
march.
So
it's
been
12
meetings.
AB
Six
almost
700
comments
have
been
submitted
through
the
portal
143
people
have
signed
up
to
speak
and
we've
engaged
with
683
unique
citizens
through
through
the
portal
and
through
these
zoom
meetings,
and
I
think
that's
all.
I
have
and
of
course
happy
to
try
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
all
might
have,
and
I
do
rick
and
wes,
I
believe,
are
on
as
well
to
to
help
answer
any
questions.
AB
AA
Yes,
sir,
that
covers
this
is
wes
that
covers
all
of
the
equipment
to
provide
the
audio
and
allow
us
to
tie
in
the
videographer
for
the
streaming
and
the
recording.
Ultimately,
what
goes
to
comcast
as
well.
So
that's
everything
from
this
local
vendor
who's
been
a
partner
with
us
for
a
lot
of
other
city
meetings.
They've
got
all
the
gear
and
equipment
together
they
bring
this
package
in
set
it
all
up
test.
It
turn
it
over
the
it
staff,
and
then
we
present
the
meeting.
AE
AE
AA
Yes,
sir,
we've
been
looking
at
that
we
have
in
the
past
that's
a
comprehensive
package
you
have
to
put
together
with
all
the
equipment
you
have
to
have
amplifiers
it
feeds
back
to
the
speaker
systems.
You
got
to
have
all
the
heavy-duty
casing
to
package
that
up
to
haul
it.
It's
it's
a
notable
investment,
but
we
have
been
looking
at
that
to
cover
more
of
our
remote
meetings
and
meetings
that
may
come
up
and
the
mayor-
and
I
even
discussed
this-
that
there's
kind
of
a
tipping
point.
AA
If
we're
going
to
do
a
lot
of
these
meetings
at
what
point
do
we
just
invest
in
the
equipment
ourselves
to
carry
this
forward
so,
depending
on
whether
we
just
do
a
few
meetings
or
go
to
a
larger
number
of
remote
meetings
may
ultimately
impact
that
decision,
but
we
are
considering
that?
Yes,
sir
okay,
thank
you,
sir
councilmember.
A
A
G
Well,
other
municipalities
are
all
meeting
in
their
chambers,
so
I
don't
know
maybe
they're
not
following
the
rules
but
they're
all
meeting
in
their
chambers.
I
mean
I,
I
can't
imagine
that
we
would
put
it
put
up
a
slideshow
to
try
to
show
that
it's
going
to
be
too
expensive
to
do
this.
You
know
I
mean
we
have
constantly
met
off
site
in
years
past
at
least
four
times
a
year
and
we've
been,
we
haven't,
met
off
site
once
this
year
and
we've
been
over
zoom
for
the
last
seven
or
eight
months.
G
So
I
would
assume
we've
probably
saved
some
cost
in
regards
to
instead
of
meeting
in
the
council
chambers
and
the
costs
associated
with
that.
I'd
like
to
see
some
of
those
numbers
too
because
to
me
that
that
little
slideshow
almost
seemed
like
a
deterrent
to
meet
in
person,
and
I
don't
really
appreciate
that.
K
K
A
Right,
well,
that's
a
good
thought.
I
mean
I'm
just
thinking
out
loud
myself,
but
you
know
we
have
saved
some
money.
We
have
saved
some
money,
not
having
other
city
city
hall
meetings.
So
so
maybe
we
try
in
november
to
to
have
one
of
these
meetings
at
the
yard
and
do
the
rental
use
the
firm
see
how
you
like
it.
A
You
know
if
we're
going
to
continue
on
as
wes
mentioned,
there's
not
too
many
meetings
at
that
expense,
where
it
wouldn't
make
sense
to
go
ahead
and
buy
a
new
sound
system,
a
portable
talent
system
and
all
the
microphones
and
all
and
then
we'd
have
it
for
the
future,
a
remote
meeting
or
when
we
go
on
the
road
even
after
cove
it's
over
with
just
a
suggestion.
We
could
try,
it
see
how
it
works
and
and
come
back
with
from
there
councilmember.
AF
Sheila,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you
rick
and
wes
and
tracy
appreciate
all
your
work
on
this.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
want
to
clarify
we.
We
have
a
screen
and
we
have
a
sound
system
in
the
city
hall
chambers.
Could
we
not
move
that
to
the
gill
yard,
especially
without
other
things
going
on
right
now?
Is
that
not
possible.
AA
No
sir,
that
really
wouldn't
be
feasible.
It's
all
integrated
into
a
rack
system
in
that
closet
that
you
can't
see
all
the
cabling
involved,
the
wireless
receivers,
it's
a
lot
of
equipment
and
it's
specifically
designed
to
fit
in
a
static
scenario
in
the
council
chamber.
So
it's
not
something
we
would
want
to
try
to
rip
out
and
relocate.
AF
Okay
and
one
more
question
you
know:
I'm
I
go
to
a
lot
of
fall.
High
school
sporting
events
right
now,
particularly
volleyball
and
they've,
been
very
fortunate.
I
know
that
other
places
around
the
country
haven't
been
as
fortunate,
but
you
know
we
play
in
dorchester,
beaufort,
berkeley
and
charleston
county,
of
course,
and
everyone
wears
a
mask.
AF
That
type
of
system
seems
like
it
would
be,
maybe
more
efficient
than
having
a
any
other
kind
of.
If
you
want
to
sign
up,
you
come
to
this.
To
speak,
come
to
a
city
app
and
you
punch
in
that.
You
want
to
speak
and
maybe
go
ahead
and
put
your
name
and
address
in
there
for
the
clerk,
but
you
know
it
it's
something
that
all
these
high
schools
are
doing
right
now
and
I
you
know,
I
just
think
that
would
be
a
simple
solution.
AF
AB
Yeah
I
mean
we,
we
did
talk
about
how
we
could
use
technology
as
far
as
citizens
signing
up
to
speak
and
we
we
went
through
a
lot
of
different
iterations.
If
you
will,
you
know,
I
think
we
landed
on
people
needed
to
kind
of
show
up
in
person,
because
that's
how
it
was
before
and
so
and
we
didn't
want
to
make
it
overly
burdensome
for
those
that
may
not
have
a
smartphone
or
something
like
that
to
be
able
to
come
and
participate
at
city
council.
AB
Q
So
again
that
gives
me
some
hesitation
about
moving
away
from
our
zoom
meetings
to
in-person
meeting,
but
just
the
thought
of
sitting
with
a
mask
on
for
six
seven
eight
hours
will
be
an
unbelievably
grueling
experience.
I
think
for
all
of
us,
and
I
just
think
we
need
to
take
that
into
account
as
we
make
our
decision.
I
I
So
I
think
I
think
the
answer
is
twofold:
we
get
the
equipment
and
I
think
the
second
thing
is.
Mr
mayor,
I
I
know
it's
been
a
tradition
to
have
staff
a
good
bit
of
staff
at
every
council
meeting,
but
maybe
doing
this
covert
piece
if
we
reduce
staff
that
would
allow
more
people
from
the
public
to
be
properly
spaced
in
city,
council
chambers
and
councilman
gregory.
I
hear
you
on
the
marathon
meetings.
I
I
think
we
all
feel
the
same
way,
including
the
mayor,
but
I
think
somehow,
maybe
on
this
zoom
has
given
us
more
comfort
to
I
don't
know,
talk
longer,
have
longer
presentations
or
or
whatever,
but
we
certainly
need
to
keep
that
in
mind,
and
we
all
kind
of
have
responsibility
on
that.
So
I'm
wondering
if
some
people
could
staff,
for
example.
Maybe
we
can
have
the
technology
where
they
can
call
in
if
that
question
they
can
be
available
by
phone
just
like
some
staff
are
available
by
phone
right.
I
I
Frankly,
it's
good
to
have
them
there,
but
a
lot
of
times
it
they're
not
necessarily
needed
to
be
there,
which
again
would
allow
more
than
14
people
to
come
in
and
then
even
if
they're,
outside
the
halls
even
doing
outside
in
the
hallway
they
can
space.
You
know
eight
feet
apart
and
get
you
know.
Maybe
a
half
dozen
so
more
that
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
city
hall
a
little
bit
in
another
way.
I
I
think
we
can
do
better
than
just
get
14
people
in
in
particular,
if
we
have
staff
on
on
an
ipad
at
the
ready.
Certainly
legal
and
certain
people
need
to
be
in
the
room,
but
we
may
not
need
to
have
you
know:
15
20
staff,
people
in
city
hall
to
be
able
to
conduct
this
meeting.
I
you
know
too
many
other
bodies
again.
I
The
congress
has
535
people
for
the
most
part,
and
then
we
have
to
subtract
out
the
one
who
positive
but
county
council
meets
another
city
number
city
city
council
meets
across
the
state.
We
can
figure
this
one
out,
so
I
don't
think
we
need.
I
think
we
need
to
get
back
to
meeting
in
person.
I
think
we
should
be
in
person
when
we
vote
on
our
budget,
in
particular
as
opposed
to
online.
So
that's
my
feeling
on
that
one
I'll
kind
of
be
quiet
and
listen
to
the
rest
of
council
members
on
that.
Thank
you.
A
I
A
I
love
our
city
council
chambers,
but
it's
just
not
laid
out
very
well
to
where
we
can
spread
out,
and
so
I
would
again
suggest
that,
just
if
y'all
want
to
give
it
a
try,
let's
try
it
at
the
gill
yard
once
see
how
it
goes.
If,
if,
if
we're
comfortable,
we
can
invest
in
some
equipment,
and
you
know,
as
as
conditions
change,
we
can
move
back
into
the
smaller
space.
A
But
if
the
goal
is
to
be
able
to
allow-
and
I
agree
we
can-
we
can
limit
staff
to
those
who
we
know
have
some
role
on
the
agenda
that
night
and
then
ask
other
people
to
be
available
for
a
phone
call
if
needed.
That's
a
great
idea,
but
still
just
us
is
13
people
and
immediate
staff
you're
going
to
have
five
or
eight
people,
I
mean
we,
we
we.
We
want
to
reserve
room
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
attend.
That's
part
of
the
point
of
all
this.
AE
AE
It
was
a
plexi-class
city,
I
mean
it
really
was
in
the
courtroom.
There
was
plexiglass
dividers
everywhere
and
they
were
getting
ready
to
start
a
jury
trial
up
there
in
a
couple
of
weeks
and
every
jury
seat,
every
juror
seat
had
well.
They
were
in
a
cage,
a
plexiglas
class
there's
a
plexiglass
between
me
and
my
client.
AE
We
couldn't
hear
each
other
talk
because
of
the
thickness
of
the
placing
glass,
and
so
we
had
to
walk
around
and
which
defeated
the
idea
of
having
the
plexiglass.
In
the
first
place,
it
was
difficult
to
hear
other
court
personnel
here
the
judge
here
witnesses.
It
was
an
excruciating
problem
because
everybody
was
wearing
a
mask.
AE
So
I
just
want
to
caution
everybody,
as
we
go
through
this
process,
that
there
are
other
considerations
that
we
need
to
be
taking
into
account
as
we
as
we
lay
out
these
plans
and
lay
out
the
the
room
that
we're
going
to
be
using.
I
I
want
to
get
back
into
city
council
chambers,
you
see
my
background
because
I
miss
being
in
city,
council
chambers
and
it's
a
there's
a
lot
of
historic
reasons
for
doing
that,
and
it's
in
this
part
of
what
we
need
to
be
doing,
because
we
have
access
to
our
citizens.
AE
They
can
communicate
with
us.
But
if
we're
going
to
be
doing
this,
if
we're
going
to
be
even
at
the
gill
yard,
we're
going
to
have
to
take
in
consideration
of
installing
plexiglass
between
us,
because
six
feet
may
not
be
sufficient.
We
just
heard
that
and
we're
going
to
make
sure
had
to
make
sure
that
not
only
are
our
sound
systems
available,
but
you've
got
it
incorporated
into
this.
AE
Just
one
microphone
for
public
use
and
that's
going
to
be
another
problem
with
that
and
and
that's
a
transmittal
device
if
we
don't
sanitize
that
microphone
after
every
use-
and
I
also
want
to
go
back
to
the
early
days
when
we
were
canceled
our
meetings
in
person-
and
I
think
councilmember
griffin
brought
this
up
when
we
were
using
the
phones
that
it
was
just
it
was
chaos,
and
it
really
was
being
on
phones
is
not
sufficient.
Either.
We
come
up
with
a
plan
that
we're
all
in
council
chambers
together
or
we're.
Not
it's
it's.
AE
It's
we're
asking
for
trouble.
We're
asking
for
trouble,
we're
going
to
lose
out
on
a
significant
amount
of
communication.
Among
ourselves,
I
mean
give
councilmember
kevin
sheely
a
lot
of
credit.
He
was
the
one
who
sort
of
got
us
directed
on
the
zoom
business
and
away
from
the
telephones
that
we
were
using.
We
were
interrupting
one
another.
We
couldn't
hear
one
another
people
were
calling
in
and
out
it
was.
It
was
a
carnival
at
first
until
we
were
able
to
figure
this
out
to
use
this
technology
that
we're
using
now.
AE
AE
U
So
I
don't
know
how
we
would
have
council
members
who
who
are
choosing
not
to
come
to
a
location
able
to
to
be
on
zoom
or
something
that
would
be
more
integral
than
just
a
phone
call
in
I.
I
would
like
to
go
back
to
our
council
member
del
chapo's,
reasonable
suggestion.
I
know
that
you
know
we
we
are
lagging
behind
our
compatriots
and
other
jurisdictions
and,
frankly
I've.
U
So
I
I
I
know
that
we're
putting
pressure
on
ourselves-
and
I
do
think
that's
the
right
way
of
thinking
about
this,
and
I
do
think
that
the
homework
that's
been
done
is
not
for
nothing.
But
I
I
would
just
recommend
that
maybe
we
do,
let's
let
things
play
out.
We
just
heard
a
you
know,
30
minute
presentation
about
how
things
are
spiking
in
the
colder
areas
of
our
country
and
in
europe,
and
we're
talking
about
november
when
the
temperatures
do
go
down
significantly.
U
A
A
AG
Mayor
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
respectfully
to
city
council
as
a
whole,
if,
if
there's
some
way-
and
I
promise
not
the
way
in
but
if
there's
some
way
to
be
able
to
accept
staff
comments,
I
know
some
staff
people
who
are
in
different
situations
than
me,
I'm
fortunate
that
I'm
not
in
a
in
you
know
any
any
particular
group.
That's
that's
of
a
category
that's
easily
exposed
to
covid,
but
I
also
I
really
don't
want
to
go
to
the
city
city
hall
with
with
all
of
you.
AG
I
love
you
all,
but
I
really
don't
want
to
do
that.
I
would
really
appreciate
it
and
I'm
sure
other
members
of
staff
who
would
have
to
be
at
meetings
would
appreciate
it
because
it
does
affect
their
health
if
there
would
be
some
way
potentially
even
anonymously.
You'll
know
if
it's
me,
because
I
write
long
letters
but
even
anonymously
for
city
staff
to
comment
before
we
do
something
like
that.
I'm
going
to
be
the
one
that
sticks
my
neck
out,
but
that's
what
I
do.
Thank
you
all.
I
appreciate
it.
A
A
A
F
B
U
B
D
A
D
You
mayor
just
a
quick
suggestion:
perhaps
can
we
reach
out
to
local
municipalities,
other
businesses
and
and
kind
of
get
a
update
on
best
practices
to
ensure
that
we,
obviously
we
do
this?
We
do
it.
Well,
I
mean
they're
doing
it
so
it'd
be
nice
to
get
some
data
to
to
have
that
behind
our
decision-
and
I
just
want
to
for
the
record
say
that
I'm
for
a
in
person,
but
if
any
council
member
feels
you
know
uncomfortable,
I
fully
support
them.
Staying
at
home
or
staff
members
staying
at
home
right.
A
Understood,
thank
you
so
we'll
check
with
what
the
others
are
doing.
I
I.
I
have
pretty
good
confidence
in
in
our
team
here
that
we
we've
presented
best
practices
to
you
and
that's
why
it
may
seem
maybe
even
extreme
to
you.
But
safety
was
a
big
consideration
in
their
recommendations
to
us.
I
can
assure
you
all
right.
A
Moving
on
then
council
communications,
a
discussion
regarding
administrative
decisions
made
by
the
mayor
in
regards
to
the
change
increase
in
property
taxes.
There
was
a
decrease
in
the
millage
rate
and
councilmember
griffin,
I'll
call
on
you.
I
did
ask
amy
wharton
to
prepare
a
little
presentation
to
share
with
council
and
I'm
glad
you
raised
the
issue
because
I
think
there's
been
a
bit
of
confusion
in
the
media
in
in
presenting
what
what
happens
with
any
reassessment
for
that
matter.
Councilmember
griffin,.
G
Yes,
sir,
I
just
thought
that
it
would
be
valuable
to
have
a
public
discussion
of
what
actually
happened,
because
I
also
I
read
the
newspaper
articles
and
and
that
sort
of
thing-
and
I
think
some
clarification
would
do
everybody
a
bit
of
good.
So
absolutely
if
we
could
have
that.
That
would
be
really
great.
A
AH
AH
Okay,
so
state
law
requires
us
to
roll
to
set
millage
rates
and
roll
back
in
reassessment
years
to
avoid
a
windfall
to
municipality,
which
is
what
we
did
so
a
millage
calculation
and
I'm
sorry,
councilmember
griffin,
we'll
get
to
where
in
terms
of
how
the
decisions
are
made.
Every
year,
we'll
go
back
to
2011
2015
assessments
assessment
years
as
well.
AH
It's
not
as
straightforward
as
everybody
thinks.
There's
three
main
factors.
You
have
assessed
value
which
is
performed
by
the
county.
The
tax
credit
factor
which
is
based
on
an
estimate
of
local
option
sales
tax
revenue
in
a
given
year
and
we've
talked
about
local
auction
sales
tax,
a
lot
and
that's
the
formula
total
loss
credited
divided
by
total
appraised
value.
AH
We
give
one
back
100,
adding
a
layer
of
complexity
when
we
actually
decide
on
a
millage
rate
and
the
tax
credit
factor
and
an
estimated
decrease
in
loss
revenue
in
2020
reduced
the
tax
credit
factor
that
we
that
we
assess
for
2020
taxes
versus
what
we
have
budgeted
for
military.
The
city
has
the
most
control,
but
it's
still
restricted
by
the
state.
As
you
all
know,
we
have
a
village
bank
that
we
have
to
comply
with,
so
our
2020
millage
calculation.
AH
AH
Our
biggest
issue
is
that
our
local
option-
sales
tax
revenues
are
down
this
year
from
what
we
budgeted,
which
affects
our
tax
credit
factor.
So
we
did
several.
We
did
four
different
scenarios
with
different
tax
credit
factors
to
assess
where
it
would
put
us
in
millage
and
in
revenue,
so
in
within
those
tax
credit
options.
We
also
had
net
millage
decreases
for
the
four
separate
millage
calculation
options
that
we
have.
AH
So
I'll
go
through
scenarios.
Stop
me
if
you
need
to
I'm
trying
to
go
fast,
because
I
know
it's
late.
Our
first
scenario
was
based
on
a
tax
credit
factor
equal
to
the
amount
of
local
options,
sales
tax
revenue
that
we
expect
to
collect
this
year,
so
that
takes
into
consideration
the
reduction
in
revenue
that
we're
expecting
our
losses.
AH
So
what
we
have
budgeted
a
tax
credit
factor
0.00087
doing
this
would
actually
reduce
the
tax
credit
factor
to
point
zero:
zero,
zero,
six,
nine,
just
based
on
the
revenue
that
we
expect
to
receive.
If
you
go
higher
than
that,
then
it
puts
us
at
risk
of
paying
back
more
than
we
actually
collect.
So
this
was
the
first
scenario
that
we
looked
at.
If
you
see
right
here,
2019
the
79.6
military,
that's
our
2019
village,
and
then
these
are
the
four
options
that
you
have.
A
AH
So
the
two
columns
are
highlighted
in
green
were
actually
the
best
options
for
the
city
problem.
Is
it
didn't,
provide
much
of
a
rollback
to
our
citizens,
but
in
keeping
looking
forward
the
military
and
then,
with
the
tax
credit
factor,
making
sure
that
we're
protecting
ourselves
from
paying
back
more
than
we
actually
collect?
This
is
the
best
scenario
for
the
city
and
then
the
revenue,
because
there's
been
talk
about
staying
revenue
neutral.
AH
We
would,
it
could
have
provided
a
7.4
million
dollar
in
tax
revenue
over
our
2020
budget
amount,
but
you
have
to
remember
too
it's
not
just
based
on
on
rollback
and
reassessment
all
that
there's
growth
in
there.
The
new
property
added
for
tax
rolls
accessible
transfers
of
interest.
You'd
have
homes
that
were
sold
so
then
they
wouldn't
have
been.
The
15
cap
wouldn't
have
been
applicable
to
them,
and
then
you
have
some
people
have
substantial
improvements.
So
the
15
cap
wouldn't
apply
to
them
either.
AH
So
we
thought,
maybe
we're
being
a
little
bit
too
conservative.
So
we
upped
the
amount
that
perhaps
we
might
collect
for
local
sales
taxes
trying
to
get
more
of
a
tax
credit
factor
for
our
citizens
into
to
look
at
a
better
rollback
net.
Millage
just
decrease
for
them
as
well,
so
that
made
our
tax
credit
factor
0.00073,
which
is
still
down
from
the
.0087
that
we
budgeted.
AH
AH
X
AH
AH
A
AH
I
do
have
a
written
test
that
I'll
email
to
everyone
later
scenario.
Four
was
keeping
our
tax
credit
factor
as
we
budgeted
it
at
point:
zero,
zero,
zero,
eight
seven:
this
was
the
it
was
much
too
risky
and
unfavorable
for
us
we'd
end
up
having
to
pay
four
point:
eight
two:
five
million
more
loss
back
than
we
received
based
on
this.
Not
using
that
tax
credit
factor,
as
you
can
see,
we
would
end
up-
have
we
would
lose
almost
two
million
dollars
if
we
went
with
that
scenario,.
AH
That's
it
I'm
done
so
within
each
of
these
there's
four.
With
these
four
embedded,
that's
the
16.
I
was
talking
about
so
and
looking
at
all
these
scenarios
scenario,
two
at
rollback,
plus
cpi
and
population
offers
the
best
balance
of
millage
rollback
and
fiscal
stability
for
the
city
provides
a
little
higher
rollback
than
the
first
scenario
considers
need
to
alleviate
impacts
of
revenue
losses
in
2021
and,
although
at
a
slight
risk
in
city
with
that
one,
potentially
one
million
dollars,
we
might
have
to
pay
back,
it
provides
a
little
higher
local
option.
AH
AH
AH
The
operating
mill
has
decreased
from
77.1
mils
to
76.8,
as
a
reduction
of
only
0.3
mils
total
millage
drainage,
including
drainage,
was
78.8
with
79.1
being
the
prior
year,
millage
still
a
0.3
mils
deduction
from
year
to
year,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
in
the
recession
and
roll
back-
and
she
was
not
that
significant
right
now
we're
rolling
back
an
equivalent
of
1.85
mils
or
five.
You
know
in
just
looking
at
operating
millage,
it's
a
decrease
of
5.3
mills
or
6.12
reduction.
AH
AH
We
only
used
2.9
in
2015,
but
that
year
we
had
also
budgeted
a
1.5
mil
addition
in
taxes
for
public
safety
infrastructure.
So
I
believe
I
wasn't
part
of
it,
but
I
believe
that
that
was
some
of
the
reason
why
we
didn't
use
the
full
3.34
that
we
could
have
used,
because
we
had
already
raised
knowledge.
1.5
mills
operating
mills
decreased
from
80.3
to
78.1,
and
that
was
a
operating
mills.
Reduction
of
2.2,
total
millage,
including
drainage
and
public
safety,
was
81.6.
AH
Prior
year,
total
millage
was
82.3,
so
the
total
reduction
in
millage
was
0.7
mils
from
fiscal
year
2014
to
2015.,
and
this
is
where
they
talk
about
the
administrative
decision
that
you
saw
in
the
paper.
So
no
special
meetings
with
councils
were
required
or
called
when
the
militaries
were
set
in
2011
or
2015.
AH
AH
So
in
our
calculation,
one
of
the
other
things
was
that
was
suggested
that
any
rollback
option
other
than
straight
rollback
results
in
a
tax
increase
and
using
the
72.25
straight
rollback.
Millage
would
keep
the
city
revenue
neutral,
meaning
no
no
increase
in
tax
revenues
on
average,
the
city
would
just
get
the
same
amount
of
tax
revenues.
AH
Oh,
my
lights
just
went
completely
out
in
this
building
hold
on
one.
Second,
sorry,
it
came
back
sorry,
sometimes
so,
in
addition
to
using
a
straight
back
straight
roll
back
calculation,
the
city
stays
revenue
neutral,
but
it
does
not
mean
that
a
person
won't
experience
a
tax,
an
increase
in
their
taxes.
AH
AH
So
this
is
just
straight
rollback:
no
cpi,
no
population,
anything
like
that,
2019
at
the
7
or
79.6
million.
That
would
be
what
their
taxes
were.
If
they
had
no
reassessment
increase
at
all,
they
would
actually
have
a
little
bit
of
a
decrease
in
their
tax
bill.
But
if
you,
if
they
had
their
reassessment,
was
the
full
15
cap,
then
they
would
have
an
increase
in
their
taxes.
AH
AH
AH
So,
like
I
said
before,
calculating
millage
isn't
as
straightforward
as
you
think
you
know,
there's
a
lot
that
we
have
to
take
into
consideration.
We
thought
long
and
hard
about
it.
We
did
those
16
different
scenarios
to
try
to
make
just
do
the
best
that
we
could
for
the
citizens
and
for
the
city,
make
sure
that
we're
financially
stable
and
maximizing
rollback
and
preventing
the
need
for
future
tax
increases.
At
the
same
time,
so
summarizing
the
20
20
million
rollback
operating
mills
in
2019
was
79.6.
A
AE
I
did
more
of
a
comment
mayor
and
amy.
Thank
you
because
we
went
through
this
exercise
and
I
think
our
last
ad
hoc
budget
meeting
and
it
is
complex
and
you
have
to
sit
through
this
stuff
several
times
just
try
to
absorb
all
this,
but
one
of
the
things
I
think
the
public
just
needs
to
be
aware
of,
and
we
we've
had
these
discussions
about
the
option
sales
tax,
but
we
give
back
to
our
citizens.
100
percent
of
the
option
sales
tax
benefit
and
not
a
lot
of
the
other
municipalities
around
here.
AE
Do
that,
and
so
we,
I
think,
the
effort
that
we
want
to
communicate
community
is
that
we
try
to
come
up
with
ways
to
keep
the
citizens
tax
bill
down
as
low
as
possible,
balancing
which
you
just
said
amy
that
is
so
respon
is
our
responsibility
to
keep
our
solvency
keeps
our
bond
rating
up.
That's
all
very
critical
that
we're
being
responsible
stewards
in
the
process
of
doing
that,
balancing
those
two
compelling
interests
of
our
citizens
and
our
stewardship
responsibilities.
U
U
I
love
doing
my
taxes
and
I
love
I'm
thinking
about
you,
know,
numbers
and
the
concepts
and
making
the
decisions,
and
when
I
got
the
the
obvious
question
from
other
other
jurisdictions
and
council
members
and
yeah,
I
heard
from
a
couple
people
who
said
well,
we
we
we'd
love
to
be
able
to
just
make
an
administrative
decision,
and
I
think
that
is
really
one
of
the
answer.
One
of
the
primary
questions
that
I
heard
from
people.
U
Why
didn't
it
have
to
come
to
council
to
go
through
all
of
this
before
we
set
the
millage
rate
and
decided
on
the
100
percent,
give
back
of
the
lost,
and
I
think
really
for
me
simplistically.
Is
we
have
a
strong
mayor
in
the
city
of
charleston
mount
pleasant?
Doesn't
town
of
james
island
doesn't
folly
beach
doesn't
so
that
is
the
tradition
and
the
precedent
and
whether
council
ever
made
a
you
know,
took
a
vote
back
in
mayor
riley's
era.
U
I
don't
know,
but
for
me
that
was
a
very
logical
answer
and
the
other
thing
is
the
the
the
property
tax
is
based
on
assessments
that
are
done
universally
every
five
years
and
if
your
property
is
so
fortunate
to
have
increased
in
value
and
you
haven't
done
a
thing
to
it
and
you're
a
primary
owner.
Basically,
you
have
a
very
limited
cap
of
increase,
but
you
do
get
an
increase
because
our
property
values
have
gone
up
exponentially
in
the
last
five
years.
U
The
majority
of
the
money
that
we're
going
to
see
as
revenue
increases,
the
7
million,
is
coming
from
properties
that
have
turned
over,
so
they
are
paying
more
based
on
their
current
value
when
they
were
sold
and
repurchased
and
also
the
new
construction.
So
I
I
I
think
if
we
can,
just
you
know,
I
don't.
I
don't
know
where
the
reporter,
who
had
the
headline
that
made
everybody.
You
know,
stand
up
and
ask
all
these
questions.
U
I
I
Certainly
one
amy,
but
I'm
sure
a
good
explanation
was
given,
but
the
article
was
written
as
though
you
know
it
was
a
dictator
that
came
and
then
increased
the
taxes,
and
that's
just
that
just
wasn't
the
case.
It
was
just
an
adjustment
in
the
militant
and
obviously
after
assessment,
that's
right,
a
downward
adjustment
in
the
millage,
and
that
was
not
acknowledged
in
the
in
the
article,
because
I
got
to
be
frank
when
I
first
saw
it,
I
thought
the
same
thing
wait
a
minute.
I
We
can't
be
increasing
taxes
on
the
whole
citizenry
unilaterally
like
that,
and
that
just
wasn't
the
case.
Obviously
I
reached
out
to
amy,
and
obviously,
when
I
found
out
was
just
adjustment
of
the
millage,
then
it's
really
not
a
non-issue,
but
anyway.
I
would
hope
that
that
journalist
was
on
this
meeting
and
saw
that
academic
explanation
and
hopefully
we'll
get
a
little
bit
more
favorable
article
in
the
newspaper
tomorrow,
the
next
day.
Thank
you.
G
A
AE
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
and
I'll
try
to
be
as
brief
as
I
possibly
can,
and
and
councilmember
wearing
brought
this
to
my
attention
that
one
of
our
west
action
revolution,
commission
meetings,
there's
been
a
proliferation
of
signs
throughout
the
city
and
a
lot
of
them
are
business
signs
and
I
just
double
checked
the
municipal
codes.
AE
AE
That's
why
we're
here
and
I'm
sure
I'll-
be
one
of
the
first
ones
to
fess
up
to
that
that
I'm
probably
guilty
of
putting
down
signs
and
but
they
shouldn't
be,
but
we've
got
to
have
a
uniform
enforcement
of
what
we're
doing
with
these
signs
and
in
quick
having
particularly
what
us
actually
look
like,
there's
some
kind
of
just
circus
going
on
over
there.
So
that's
my
event.
AE
If
anybody
wants
to
chime
in
on
that,
I
appreciate
it,
but
I
would
like
to
see
the
city
maintain
some
kind
of
uniform
enforcement
of
taking
these
signs
down,
particularly
ones
that
are
not
legal
in
any
circumstance
and
the
ones
that
are
in
the
right
of
way.
They
pose
a
hazard
to
the
community
and
they're,
not
they're,
not
supposed
to
be
there.
So
thank
you
for
hearing
me
out
there
well.
I
I
I
I
saw
one
of
the
areas
where
your
predecessor,
aubrey
alexander,
fought
right
there
and
myself
fought
to
get
some
landscaping
put
at
san
andres,
boulevard,
old
town,
road
and
ashley
river
road.
We
got
nice
plants
coming
up
here
matter
of
fact,
they're
all
in
bloom.
Right
now
and
and
now
we
got
signs
stuck
all
over
the
landscape,
and
so
you
know
we
ought
to
do
better
than
that.
So
you
know
the
nickname
that
we
want
to
get
away
from
out
of
the
ugly
nickname,
wes
trashling.
This
contributes
to
that.
We
don't
want
that.
I
C
A
They
literally
had
about
20
signs.
Maybe
40
and
they'd
put
them
all
in
a
row
in
the
in
the
right
public
right
away
and
of
course
it
was
illegal.
Then
they'd
come
in
the
next
night
and
pick
them
up
and
put
them
on
another
street.
You
know
so
so
I
think
some
vigilance
on
both
is
appropriate.
I
I
would
say
that
both
democrats
and
republicans
it's
a
bipartisan.
A
Consensus
of
the
candidates
that
they
can
put
signs
wherever
they
want
to,
we
do
send
them
a
letter
at
the
beginning
of
the
election
season,
and
I
see
keith
benjamin's
online.
His
folks
go
out
and
pull
them
up
and
so
does
livability,
but
from
now
until
november
3rd,
even
if
we
got
everyone
up
tomorrow,
they'd
be
out
the
next
night.
A
AI
AI
A
C
Yes,
sir,
and
we
obviously
are
in
cooperation
with
the
keys
department,
we
have
notified
political
headquarters
as
well,
trying
to
educate
and
trying
to
pick
these
signs
up
and
cooperation
with
traffic
and
transportation
as
we
see
fit.
But
you
are
100
correct.
We
will
pull
them
up
and
they
will
be
replaced
overnight.
So
it's
an
ongoing
battle,
but
I
promise
that
when
this
is
all
said
and
done
and
election's
over,
they
will
be
clean
and
clear,
and
hopefully
you
know
looking
better
west
ashley.
C
D
D
C
AI
AI
U
I
just
want
to
say
I
think
we
should
all
be
glad
that
I
watched
on
the
news.
The
other
night.
There
was
a
reporter
somewhere
out
in
another
state
and
she
was
driving
by
neighborhoods
where
there
were
signs
everywhere,
and
then
there
was
a
house
that
was
literally
wrapped
like
an
american
flag,
with
a
with
a
huge
wall
of
their
favorite
candidate
painted
on
it.
So
at
least
we
don't
have
that
in
our
community.
AE
And
I'll
just
wrap
this
up
mayor,
and
I
do
want
to
thank
keith
and
dan
and
folks
from
the
how
it
works.
They
are
very
receptive
to
all
of
this.
I
barrage
them
with
emails
about
it
and
they
respond,
but
the
other
part
of
this,
in
addition
to
just
these
political
signs,
are
these
business
signs
that
are
completely
put
up
so,
even
after
the
political
season's
over,
we
just
still
need
to
be
diligent
on
these
other
non-political
signs
that
are
floating
around
so.
AI
Q
C
D
C
A
Opposed
the
eyes
of
it,
I
will
note
to
everyone
that
the
state
legislature
did
pass
a
new
ordinance
this
year,
allowing
a
a
kind
of
universal
business
license
application
process.
It
won't
go
into
effect.
I
don't
think
until
another
year,
we'll
probably
have
to
make
some
amendments
to
our
local
ordinance
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
new
state
model,
but
it
does
allow
us
to
continue
to
set
our
own
rates.
So
we
we
maintain
that
ability.
It
will
be
easier
for
businesses,
particularly
those
that
do
business
in
multiple
jurisdictions.
AE
I
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
the
committee
of
public
safety,
med
on
thursday
at
eight
on
october,
the
8th
I
was
about
a
two
hour
plus
meeting.
We
received
this
preliminary
report
from
the
after
action
report
prepared
by
the
charleston
police
department.
We
heard
from
heather
malloy
assistant
corporate
corporation
council,
who
went
through
a
very
painstaking
chronology
and
comments,
and
responses
and
recommendations
on
how
to
improve
the
city's
response
to
the
events
of
may
31st
and
may
31st.
AE
A
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
or
comments,
but
we'll
just
accept
that
report
is
information,
nothing
to
vote
on
at
this
time.
Thank
you
again.
Heather
chief
and
everybody
that's
been
involved
in
this
really
detailed
after
action
report,
but
importantly
setting
the
course
forward
for
improvements
and
and
all
that
you
all
do,
and
we
do
so.
Thank
you
again
for
that
effort.
W
W
W
We
have
the
number
three
we
had
to
review
a
amendment
for
the
cooper
bridge
tiff
allocation
and
that
was
that
was
deferred
chip.
Mcqueen
he's
going
to
be
bringing
that
back
to
the
community
development
committee
being
we'll
have
another
meeting
and
then
he'll
be
bringing
that
back
to
us
and
the
number
four
the
discussion
review
of
the
amendment
parking
requirements.
W
W
A
W
A
A
W
P
AI
AI
Q
Mr
mayor
and
council,
the
recreation
committee
met
on
monday
october
12th
at
two
o'clock.
There
were
items
under
new
business
and
the
first
was
the
municipal
golf
course
proposed
rates
and
the
committee-
and
I
may
need
a
little
help
from
my
committee
members
on
this.
We
did
make
a
recommendation
to
raise
the
rates
for
non-residents
of
the
city
and
I
think
it's
the
user
rate,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,.
U
Q
Q
U
Mr
mayor,
thank
you.
I
I
appreciate
I
I
was
able
to
observe
the
recreation
committee
meeting
yesterday
and
I
know
you
raised
the
tri-county
rates.
While
you
are
meeting
so
when
you
say
five
dollars
tonight,
doesn't
that
mean
five
dollars
above
the
five
dollar
raise
that
that
the
golf
committee
had
already
proposed.
P
A
Basically,
folks
will
have
three
tiers
for
pricing,
one
for
city
citizens,
which
will
be
the
lowest
rate
and
incredible
deal
for
particularly
for
this
renovated
course
than
a
little
tier
or
citizens
of
the
tri-county
area,
who
are
not
citizens
of
charleston
it'll
be
kind
of
a
mid-range
but
still
less
expensive
other
than
one
course
than
any
other
public
course
in
the
tri-county
region
and
then
a
higher
rate
for
out
of
the
tri-county
region
visitors.
I
guess
you'd
say.
U
Among
I
mean
I,
I
have
james
island
and
unincorporated
county.
Similarly,
council
member
brady
has
an
incorporated
county,
just
a
hop
skip
and
a
jump
down
on
john's
island.
I
really
feel
like
and-
and
my
husband
plays
in
the
golf
group,
so
it's
very
personal
to
us
that
you
know
people
live
in
riverland
terrace
and
I
know
you
you,
you
made
a
an
ad
announcement
yesterday.
U
You
know
I
I
live.
I
live
in
a
block
where
the
majority
of
my
neighbors
are
town
of
james
island.
They've
already
done
an
annexation.
I
just
feel
like
if
we're
going
to
be
continuing
to
court
and
find
ways
to
cooperate
with
our
charleston
county
colleagues
and
and
citizens.
I
just
feel
like
that
would
send
a
really
good
message
that
we're
giving
a
charleston
county
rate
and
a
tri-county
rate
or
and
the
other
county
rate,
and
then
anyone
else,
so
I
would
just
throw
that
out
there
as
a
consideration.
U
A
So
you
know
we're
one
metro
region
and
again
the
the
rate
that
a
metro
region,
citizen
would
pay
is,
is
a
better
deal
than
any
other
public
golf
course
other
than
one
other
one,
and
that
difference
was
only
one
dollar.
So
it's
it's
a
great
deal
for
charleston
county
residents.
It's
great
deal
for
for
the
metro
area,
council,
member
griffin,.
G
G
We
are
our
municipal
golf
course,
so
we're
not
private,
so
our
membership
rate
is
really
like
being
a
city
of
charleston
resident
you're,
getting
a
member
rate
of
living
in
the
city,
knowing
that
your
tax
dollars
are
paying
for
this
course,
so
it
makes
sense
to
have
a
three-tiered
system
like
that,
because
if
it
was
a
private
course,
it
would
be
the
same
way.
So
I
I
think
this
makes
the
most
logical
sense.
A
I
I
I've
got
a
call
from
several
people
who
live
up
and
down
the
greenway
who
are
interested
in
donating
a
bench,
for
example
or
benches
along
the
way,
planting
a
tree
and
memoriam
to
people,
and
I'm
being
told
that
it's
almost
like
an
act
of
congress
to
get
that
done.
So
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
way
of
giving
a
issue
to
mr
chairman,
you
know
on
the
recreation
committee
to
develop
a
policy
when
people
want
to
donate
a
bench
or
a
neighborhood
wants
to
do
a
donated
bench.
I
Basically,
we'll
have
a
standard
already
set
that
we
can
send
out
to
that
person
or
that
company
or
that
neighborhood
to
do
so.
I
think
the
master
plan
allows
for
that.
But
apparently
I
don't
think
it's
been
unfolding
that
way,
so
maybe
at
the
next
two
weeks.
Mr
chairman,
you
can
report
back
on
that.
I
I
know
you
have
a
couple
other
councilmen
who
greenway
runs
through
their
district
as
well.
You
know
councilmember
ross
and
certainly
council
members
brady,
and
we
just
want
to
help
people
improve
the
district
which
actually
helps.
I
I
mean
improve
the
greenway
which
actually
helps
the
city
as
well.
I
spoke
to
danny
cassis,
along
with
dominion,
they're
doing
some
work
right
now
along
the
greenlee
and
when
they
finish
doing
that
work,
they're
gonna,
obviously
clean
it
up
and
probably
restore
it
back
better
than
it
was
before.
This
is
another
wonderful
opportunity
where
maybe,
where
dominion
would
contribute
along
the
beautification
of
that
that
green
one.
So
the
process
by
which,
for
example,
I
wanted
to
donate
a
bench.
I
I
Q
Councilman
rearing,
I
will
start
a
conversation
with
our
parks
and
recreation
department
right
because
I
do
know
that
there
is
a
bench
program
in
hampton
park.
Okay
and
what
we
could
do
is
sort
of
start
finding
out
what
those
guidelines
are,
how
the
what's
the
where's
and
see
if
we
can
adapt
it
accordingly.
For
the
green
way.
Great
we'll
try
to
put
that
on
the
agenda
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
I
Q
Q
I
Yes,
the
committee
met
yesterday
at
four
o'clock
and
as
soon
as
I
get
my
agenda
up
here,
come
on,
we
had
an
update
on
king
street
huge
drainage,
which
it's
pretty
close.
To
get
to
the
point
of
being
vetted
out.
We
have
an
agreement
with
cws
to
basically
they're
gonna,
reimburse
us
for
any
improvements
that
fall
in
their
framework
that
we
pay
for
they're
gonna
come
back
and
reimburse
us
a
hundred
percent.
I
Please
say:
aye
now
I
come
back
to
church
at
the
central
park
drainage.
I
don't
know
whether
you
know,
mr
mayor.
You
want
to
have
some
input
of
mr
councilman
gregory,
who
who
certainly
has
been
pointed
up
on
this
one
right
here
and
kind
of
got
us
going
in
the
right
direction,
mr
fountain,
if
you
want
to
but
then
councilman
gregory,
you
have
any
comments
on
central
park.
Training
system.
Q
Q
Q
I
R
Well,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
you
know
as
as
one
of
the
three
james
island
council
members.
This
is
a
very
important
issue
for
my
constituents
and
I
think
that
you
know
the
folks
over
in
this
area
of
james
island
deserve
a
tremendous
amount
of
credit.
They
have
been
leaders
not
just
on
james
island
but
the
city
as
a
whole
in
bringing
visibility
and
a
sense
of
urgency
to
stormwater
infrastructure
improvements
in
their
in
their
area,
and
I
think
that
they
deserve
a
lot
of
credit
for
that.
R
None
of
this
happening
today.
This
great
effort,
that's
being
led
by
council,
member
gregory
and
councilmember
jackson
with
the
help
of
council
member
waring
and
everybody
in
the
mayor
and
staff
and
everybody
it's
a
team
effort.
This
wouldn't
be
happening
without
y'all
and
if
I
may
suggest
that
or
make
a
gentle
recommendation,
you
know
it
seems
as
though
a
lot
of
the
energy
politically
on
out.
R
I
heard
the
same
thing
that
I've
heard
for
projects
all
over
the
dip,
my
district
and
all
over
the
city
12
to
18
months
for
permits
to
clean
out
a
ditch,
we're
not
we're
not
trying
to
fill
in
100
acres
to
build
apartments
or
something.
This
is
a
municipal
government
trying
to
improve
and
enhance
its
stormwater
system.
We
could
we're
going
to
lose
a
year
and
a
half.
If,
if
some
of
these
you
know
creative
permitting
expediting
measures,
aren't
aren't
successful,
that's
absolutely
unacceptable
and
we
need
to
shift
the
political.
R
You
know.
You
know
fire
so
to
speak
into
getting
reform
in
that
in
that
much
needed
area,
because
the
city
of
charleston
stands
ready
and
committed
to
taking
care
of
these
infrastructure
needs
we're
going
to
do
it,
we're
going
to
do
it
with
the
county,
we're
going
to
do
it
with
ourselves,
but
we
need
help
in
reforming
the
system
frankly,
so
that
more
and
more
of
these
projects
can
get
underway,
they
can
get
designed
and
they
can
get
built
quicker
and
the
permitting
issue
is
a
big
one.
R
I
U
Thank
you,
sir
yeah.
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
councilmember
appel.
I
I
do
I
do
I
mean
this
is
a.
This
is
an
urgent
matter
that
we
get
this
kind
of
general
permit
from
the
state
agency,
as
well
as
approved
in
concept
by
the
army
corps,
because
it
is
detrimental
to
our
ability
to
serve
the
drainage
problems
that
we
have
has
nothing
to
do
with
new
construction.
Honestly,
it's
I
mean
this.
U
It
was
because
the
georgetown
and
the
pd
had
just
acknowledged
that,
because
of
their
marsh
and
the
ability
to
maintain
it
and
go
into
it,
they
they
were
able
to
go
through
the
storm
surge
of
hurricane
irma.
That
was
originally
projected
to
wipe
out
the
city
of
georgetown
and,
and
so
they
were
as
as
eager
as
the
rest
of
us
further
south
to
get
this
general
permit.
That
would
allow
them
to
to
do
things
like
that,
so
it
really
is
a
collective.
Q
Q
I
Q
I
mean
we've
been
working
since
2014
on
this
issue
and
it
took
us
this
long
just
to
get
the
study
completed.
So
we
have
some
issues
with
the
city
that
we
need
to
take
care
of
as
well.
Okay,
in
terms
of
how
long
it
takes
for
us
to
do
a
study
from
2014
to
now,
that's
a
long
time
just
to
get
the
study
completed.
So
it's
not
just
the
permitting
okay,
we
have
some
issues
internally.
Q
A
So
yeah,
I
will
be
the
first
to
acknowledge
that
the
report
that
we
we
finally
now
have
completed
from
aecom
in
in
partnership
with
the
county
of
charleston,
took
longer
than
it
should
have,
but
we
are
now
at
the
place
where
we
got
a
plan.
We've
got
four
projects,
four
areas.
If
you
will,
we
we've
decided
to
take
two
and
give
two
to
the
county
working
in
conjunction,
but
we've
got
to
do
the
lower
end
of
the
basin.
First,
the
city
is
responsible
for
that.
I've.
A
Let
matt
and
aecom
know
in
no
uncertain
terms
that
we
will
fund
the
engineering
the
next
step
in
the
process,
we're
saving
money
from
the
refinancing
of
our
bond
that
we
recently
approved,
which
will
mean
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
savings
for
our
stormwater
fund.
That's
more
than
enough
to
take
the
next
step
and
we
are
committed.
As
a
council.
A
I
am
as
mayor
to
see
these
projects
through
as
expeditiously
as
we
can
now
that
we
have
the
study
done
and
the
county,
I
believe,
is
stepping
up
the
to
the
plate
on
their
side
of
it
as
well.
In
addition,
our
our
annual
cdc
recommendation
for
either
roadway
or
drainage
project
included
the
the
one
of
the
projects
in
this
basin,
and
so
this
on
the
city's
dime,
really,
even
even
even
though
it
comes
through
the
county,
it
was
our.
A
We
have
the
right
to
one
project
we
picked
up
another
400,
000
or
so
to
go
to
the
basin,
so
so
we're
underway.
It
will
take
some
time
to
get
those
to
follow
that
process.
But
there's
there's
nothing
stopping
us
now.
If
somebody
wants
to
see
the
full
presentation,
it's
recorded
on
that
meeting
from
yesterday
and
mr
fountain
has
it
and
can
make
it
available.
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
The
committee
on
traffic
and
transportation
did
meet
sometime
in
2020.
I
think
it
was
today.
What
we
learned
principally,
is
that
mr
benjamin
and
his
team
are
working
really
hard
in
tough
conditions
and
are
doing
a
great
job.
There
were
three
things
that
were
ported
out
that
we
need
to
vote
on
one
is.
We
have
recommended
unanimously
to
enter
into
a
maintenance
agreement
for
glenn
mcconnell
parkway,
which
is
principally
for
the
multi-use
path
same
with
the
folly
road
corridor.
F
There's
a
maintenance
agreement
that
we
need
to
enter
into,
so
we
can
make
sure
that
the
bike
lanes
stay
safe
and
painted
a
different
color.
And
finally,
there
was
a
resolution
that
we
undertook
and
adopted
between
the
private
developer
and
the
city
to
allow
for
a
no
noise
zone
on
the
train
tracks
that
are
behind
the
development
just
near
the
entrance
to
the
ravenel
bridge.
F
It's
a
conglomeration
of
governmental
entities
that
have
to
do
all
this
work
and
all
we're
doing
is
handing
this
off
to
the
private
developer,
to
make
sure
that
that's
a
quiet
zone.
So
with
that,
unless
mr
benjamin
has
anything
to
add,
I
would
ask
your
approval
for
items
a
b
and
c
and
again
commend
mr
benjamin
and
his
team
for
their
hard
work.
Thank
you
very
much.
L
G
A
A
C
A
L
A
W
Mr
mayor,
I
want
to
say
I
want
to
ask
mr
benjamin
after
the
meeting
would
he
give
me
a
call.
I
want
to
get
something,
mr
mayor,
I
think
you
and
I
drove
around
on
jackson,
street
and
lee
street.
I
think
a
couple
of
a
couple
months
ago-
and
we
saw
the
cars-
was
parked
on
this
grassy
area,
which
you
all
put
signs
up
and
they
have
stopped
parking
on
the
grassy
areas.
W
So
the
people
in
that
area
no
lincoln
park
there
who
live
around
that
area
anymore,
because
I
don't
know
where
these
cars
are
coming
from.
I
know
the
building
was
built
there
and
they
had
a
parking
garage
there
also,
but
I
don't
know
whether
if
they
have
people
staying
with
them
or
what,
but
they
have
so
many
cars
in
that
area
at
night.
W
W
We
don't
have
to
do
something
I
don't
want
to.
You
know,
have
the
people
there
heard
it
by
doing
this,
but
I
don't
know
where
all
those
cars
are
coming
from.
I'm
saying
that
the
building
there
is
was
rented
to
you
know
for
our
students,
but
I
believe
they're
having
other
people
staying
there
too,
a
guest
but
bringing
all
these
cars,
but
I
mean
there
was
a
hundred
and
seventy
cars
there
for
the
two
nights
that
I
counted,
I
went
drop.
W
AI
AE
Thank
you,
mr
man.
This
is
applied
to
remind
everybody.
Tomorrow.
Is
the
wes
ashley
revitalization
commission
meeting
at
5
30
and
we're
going
to
receive
a
report
from
the
county
transportation
authority
as
to
the
improvements
for
the
old
town
district,
I
would
encourage
you,
if
you're
interested,
to
see
what
has
been
planned
for
this
comprehensive
redo
of
several
intersections
along
saint
rittenberg
orange
grove,
road
old
town
road
to
to
log
in
and
participate
in
tomorrow's
revitalization,
commission,
terrific.