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City of Charleston Council Meeting -August 21,2018
A
B
C
Let's
bow
our
heads
Heavenly
Father,
as
we
come
together
once
again
to
do
the
work
of
the
citizens
of
this
city
help
us
to
be
mindful
that
our
differences
is
really
our
strength
and
that
we
should
continue
to
move
forward
to
make
the
holy
city.
Strong
I
would
also
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
this
council
in
this
mayor
for
apologizing
for
slavery
and
for
Jim
Crow
I.
Thank
you
on
behalf
of
the
ancestors
I.
Thank
you
on
behalf
of
the
citizens
of
this
city.
C
We
must
now
make
the
apology
real
and
not
just
a
piece
of
paper.
We
need
to
address
some
of
the
issues
that
council
members
brought
up
during
that
period,
especially
as
it
relates
the
Jim
Crow.
We
need
to
look
at
our
ordinances
that
were
develop
during
that
time
and
make
sure
that
there's
no
unintentional,
unintentional
language
that
might
have
a
discriminatory
discriminatory
impact
on
any
of
our
citizens.
C
A
Well,
thank
you
all
for
being
with
us.
This
is
an
announcement
of
a
very
unlikely
nature
that
we
would
have
to
exit
the
building.
The
two
exits
from
this
main
room
of
course
right
here
and
in
that
event,
if
we
had
to
evacuate,
do
not
use
the
elevator,
but
instead
go
down
the
two
stairways
either
one
and
then
the
single
stairway
out
the
front
of
the
building.
There
is
also
an
exit
door
out
from
this
room
to
my
right
and
y'all
up
in
the
balcony.
A
Next
I
would
like
to
introduce
to
counsel
and
to
our
citizens
assembled
here
some
new
employees
of
the
city
of
Charleston,
we're
very
glad,
have
on
board
a
new
assistant,
Corporation
Counsel
in
the
name
of
Sterling
Halverson
aalverson.
So
sterling
was
the
city
attorney
for
the
Olive
palms
for
a
number
of
years.
She
served
that
position
since
2010.
She
also
served
as
attorney
for
town
the
Mount
Pleasant
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals,
and
before
then
she
was
assistant
town
attorney
for
Palm
Beach,
Jupiter
Island
and
the
village
of
to
questa
Florida.
A
She
graduated
from
Vanderbilt
University
and
Florida
State
University
College
of
Law
prior
to
law
school.
She
worked
for
six
years
for
the
Carter
Center
in
Atlanta
she's
married
to
attorney
brent
Halverson
and
has
two
children
and
she
has
a
ton
of
municipal
law
experience
that
she'll
be
kind
of
specializing
in
real
estate
and
Zoning
and
commercial
matters
primarily
sterling
Halverson
right
over
here
wanted
to
introduce
her
to
everyone.
A
In
addition
to
sterling,
we
have
another
addition
to
our
legal
department
who
I'd
like
to
introduce
Sean
ad
bola.
He
joined
the
legal
apartment.
Just
this
past
Thursday
he's
a
graduate
of
the
Charleston
School
of
Law
and
recently
took
the
South
Carolina
Bar.
He
is
a
graduate
of
the
University
of
Arkansas
and
among
his
other
legal
experience,
he
worked
as
a
law
clerk
for
the
Ninth
Circuit
solicitor's
office
in
the
North
Carolina
administrative
office
of
the
courts
in
Charlotte
North
Carolina
I
would
also
share
with
you.
A
A
And
finally,
is
Shannon
with
us
this
evening.
Shannon's
over
here,
Shannon
SCAF
is,
is
our
new
emergency
management
coordinator.
He
served
with
the
United
States
Coast
Guard
for
24
years
retired
as
Lieutenant
Commander
concluding
his
career
chief
of
contingency
planning
and
force
readiness
at
sector
Charleston
prior
to
obtaining
his
commission.
Shannon
was
Coast
Guard
helicopter
rescue
swimmer
for
seven
years
and
was
involved
in
numerous
rescues
throughout
the
United
States.
He
was
involved
in
response
to
numerous
weather
related
disasters,
including
Hurricane
Floyd
and
the
floods
of
2015
hurricane
Matthew.
A
Following
his
retirement,
he
was
called
back
into
duty
to
assist
the
Coast
Guard
with
air
rescue
of
hundreds
of
Houston
residents
stranded
as
a
result
of
Hurricane
Harvey
Shannon.
This
may
be.
The
best
part
of
the
story
is
a
life.
Long
Charleston
resident
grew
up,
West
Ashley
moved
from
West
Ashley,
though
he
went
to
Somerville
High
School
for
a
little
while
his
grandfather
was
the
owner
of
Pateros
Italian
restaurant
west
of
the
Ashley
he's
going
to
do
he's
remarkably
experienced
and
qualified
to
be
the
city
of
Charleston's
new
emergency
management
director.
A
A
Already
time
flies
around
here
like
y'all,
wouldn't
believe
and
she's
already
doing
an
incredible
job,
picking
up
on
a
great
work
of
Theron
snipe
who
who
served
before
her
and
like,
for
example,
last
week
when
we
had
the
announcement
that
the
african-american
museum
folks
had
raised
their
seventy-five
million
dollars,
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
she
timed
this,
but
that
night
we
already
had
our
first
workshop
for
minority
and
women-owned
businesses
to
attract
their
attention
to
the
project.
So
we
can
get
the
best
participation
and
a
project
the
city
has
ever
had.
A
Great
em,
great
new
employee,
thank
you
so,
first
on
the
agenda
or
NEX
is
public
hearings.
We
have
a
few
of
them
and
the
first
one
up
is
a
public
hearing.
That's
just
a
requirement
of
a
grant
application.
This
is
for
a
20-18
justice
assistant,
grant
application
and
mount
$26,500.
The
proposed
application
for
the
purchase
of
a
forensic
light
source
and
multispectral
camera
for
the
Charleston
Police
Department
forensics
division.
There's
no
match
required.
The
complete
grant
application
is
available
in
the
clerk
of
counsel's
office.
A
D
D
These
were
in
the
21st
century,
remember
George,
Orwell's
book
1984
and
the
collection
of
data,
the
people's
data,
in
particular
African
Americans,
who
live
in
a
city
and
an
issue
regarding
the
performance
audit
at
you
you
had
and,
and
that
ought
by
the
post
occurring
in,
and
it
didn't
really
clearly
define
what
we
learnt
from
that
right.
Here's
a
brochure
that
should
be
developed.
D
This
brochure
here
is
a
brochure
by
Justice
Department
regarding
due
process
and
equal
protection
and
and
in
our
site
the
the
federal
law
42
USC
2,
0,
0,
0
D
and
42
USC
3
7,
8,
9,
DC
and
42
USC,
1,
4,
1,
4,
being
a
form
of
the
borders,
only
appeals
when
you
looked
at
the
plan
enabling
that
many
years
ago,
Public
Safety
wasn't
even
a
part
of
that
conversation
and
in
terms
of
them
to
state
the
crime
lab.
The
sled
has
not
even
funded
yet.
D
Okay,
there's
no
funding
for
sleds
crime
lab,
so
this
particular
camera
or
grant
can
be
used
to
help
divide
innocence
for
people
in
this
country.
Many
african-americans
have
been
wrongfully
accused
in
this
country,
a
since
those
in
Virginia
about
1781,
and
so
we
have
a
monument
Museum
in
Montgomery
Alabama
with
4,000
people
and
get
a
sixth
amendment
or
eighth
amendment,
and
so
I.
Take
these
grants
seriously.
I.
D
Take
any
Justice
Department
grant
seriously
put
aside
for
public
comments
when
things
do
happen
in
the
community
know
one's
own
record,
for
it
asking
the
question
the
council
to
make
sure
that
patterns
are
in
place.
They
sure
that
the
patterns
collective
MUSC,
the
College
of
Charleston,
all
these
all
these
relationships
that
you
have
to
show
if
you're,
that
wrongfully
accused
of
crimes
they
did
not
commit.
Thank
you
thank.
A
E
E
There
we
go
here
is
the
property
on
Meeting
Street,
just
north
of
Lee,
Street
and
south
of
Jackson
Street.
The
there
is
a
new
multi-family
development
going
in
across
the
street
from
this
under
the
MU
to
work,
force,
housing
there
and
here's
walnut
to
the
rear
and
then
I
26
further
to
the
southwest,
and
we
have
some
images
of
the
property.
Here's
an
aerial
image,
another
close-up
aerial
street
view
and
from
the
rear
and
walnut
and
property.
D
Same
the
same
address
this,
this
right
here
is
the
National
Flood
Insurance
Program,
Homeland,
Security
FEMA,
and
the
coastal
barrier
resource
systems
created
in
1968
and
the
flood
disaster
protection
act
like
73.
It's
as
a
condition
of
community
participation
must
must
adhere
to
the
strict
floodplain
management
resolution
enforced
by
the
community.
So
a
key
swearing
was
saying
was
the
fact
that
maybe
some
Scott
and
Andy
Graham
and
others
need
to
do
their
job
in
terms
of
providing
the
funding
necessary.
D
We
have
our
Republicans
on
this
on
this
council
and
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
do
your
job
and
call
your
Republican
friends
right
and
let
them
know
that
we
need
a
lot
of
money
down
here
right.
You
know,
you
know
you
need
to
give
them
a
call,
call
Henry
McMasters.
You
know
we
need
an
arc
round
here.
We
got
together.
You
know
he
arcs
in
Charleston.
D
A
D
Keep
the
dad
to
that.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Now,
let's
talk
in
terms
of
affordable
housing
and
markets,
the
average
average
rent
is
1900
hours
a
month.
The
average
house
is
through
an
11,000
Devon
real
estate
minister,
eight
years.
So
how
can
these
market
conditions
you
talk
about
absent
of
any
help
from
the
federal
state
government
mitigate
twenty
million
dollars?
D
Okay,
so
this
is.
This:
is
an
issue
of
market
workforce
housing
workforce
for
housing?
Isn't
$2,000
a
month?
Okay,
that's
that's
311
thousand
dollars
to
average
home
price.
So
how
are
we
gonna
get
around?
That?
Is
you
the
numbers?
The
market?
That's
that's
my
comment.
Vanessa
for
every
last
one
of
these
statements.
How
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
mitigate
that
without
federal
state
health?
Thank
you,
sir.
F
A
Thank
you.
This
is,
this
is
a
comment
period,
not
a
question-and-answer
period.
We'd
be
happy
to
address
that
for
you
as
we
discuss
it.
Maybe
would
anyone
else
like
to
be
heard
on
this
matter,
see
none.
It
comes
before
council
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
any
discussion:
Oh
council
member
Jackson,
Oh.
G
Basically,
in
this
ordinance,
workforce
housing
is
defined,
whether
it
be
rental
or
homeowner
condominium
to
find
for
families
who
have
an
income
that
falls
between
the
80
percent
and
120
percent
of
the
area,
median
income
average.
So
that's
that's
our
official
definition
and
usually
low-income
housing
is
defined
for
anything
below
80
percent.
Thank.
A
A
The
owner's
representative
Linwood
Davis
is
with
us
from
North
Carolina
and
the
reason
I
do
this
is
because
the
share
would
counsel
you
may
or
may
not
remember
that
the
owners
of
this
property
have
been
so
kind
as
to
lease
this
property
to
the
city
for
a
dollar
a
year
until
they
get
to
the
point
where
they're
ready
to
redevelop
the
property
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
him
and
and
the
other
owners
for
their
generosity
to
the
city.
It's
really
commendable.
Thank
you,
sir.
Okay
number,
three
yep.
H
I
A
E
Mr.
Morgan,
yes,
sir.
Thank
you.
Next
item
is
number
three
which
is
141
meeting
and
174
king
street
has
dual
frontage.
It's
commonly
known
as
to
former
SCE
ng
offices
in
the
lower
part
of
the
city,
it's
between
meeting
and
King,
just
north
of
Queen
Street.
Here's
an
image
you
see
of
the
property.
Here
we
have
a
couple,
other
images
of
the
property
itself.
E
A
J
J
J
E
The
you
see
is
almost
exclusive
to
the
King
Street
corridor
and
that's
why
we
felt
it
was
appropriate
here
there,
another
number
of
other
locations
along
King
Street
in
particular,
that
the
you
see
has
been
in
place.
I'm,
not
sure.
If
we've
gotten
any
other,
you
see
in
the
city
beyond
the
King
Street
corridor,
it
was
kind
of
developed
for
those
types
of
properties
in
the
King
Street
car.
A
E
And
the
next
one
is
838
Morrison
Drive
and
additional
ten
parcels
along
Marston
Drive
and
Johnson
Street.
You
all
have
seen
this
one
before
you
before
in
reference
to
the
rezoning
to
the
Upper
Peninsula
zoning.
This
request
is
to
go
from
the
old
for
height
district
and
WP
Old,
City,
height
district
classifications
to
the
412
Old
City
height
district,
which
again
matches
up
with
the
Upper
Peninsula
zoning.
This
is
formerly
property
owned
by
the
State
Ports
Authority.
E
We
have
looked
at
this
before
at
previous
council
meetings.
Again,
Johnson
Street
leads
back
into
the
Columbus
Street
terminal
here,
there's
March
to
the
rear,
the
ramp
to
the
Cooper
River
Bridge,
not
Pleasant
locations
here,
and
then
there
is
marcin
roth
frontage
here
and
the
sanders
claw
elementary
school
here
and
then
other
housing
from
the
Housing
Authority
across
the
street,
and
the
request
is
for
that:
412
Old,
City,
Heights,
Street.
K
Member
wearing
I
just
have
a
question
when
this
was
in
front
of
us
before
I
think
this
is
a
fossa
mr.
Morgan,
yes,
sir
I
think
there
was
a
public
access.
That
developer
was
talking
about
giving
back
to
the
creek.
I
was
just
reminded
this
morning
about
the
long
bar
you
know
he's
supposed
to
have
that
little
little
public
access
back
there
is
that
in
writing.
Before
we
give
this
approval,
the.
E
The
zoning
they've
requested
it's
not
a
PUD,
so
we
can't
have
conditions
on
it
or
anything
like
that.
But
I
know
the
developer
has
had
a
number
of
discussions
with
the
community
about
getting
some
public
access
to
the
water
over
there.
But
it's
not
something
that
we
could
condition
based
on
the
type
of
zoning.
The
tape
requested
for
the
property.
K
No,
this
is
something
else
a
long
bar,
but
this
is
this
is
one
hand
where
people
kind
of
cut
through
and
fishing
that
Creek
has
been
doing
that
for
four
decades.
I'm
just
wondering
it
certainly
appeal
to
all
of
us
when
they
made
their
presentation.
I
just
wanted
to
mr.
Muir
that
we
have
anything
right.
I,.
E
K
I
believe
all
intentions
are
good.
Don't
get
me
wrong.
I
support
these
people
in
doing
this,
but
you
know
if
they
don't
get
this
vote,
maybe
they
would
volunteer
to
put
something
in
right
if
we
defer
I,
think
they
truly
want
to
do
it,
but
I
think
we
need
to
dot
the
I's
and
cross
the
t's,
as
matter
of
fact
was
then
suggested
it
wasn't
mine.
A
A
L
K
M
L
We
are
actually
working
with
the
port
to
work
through
their
process
to
acquire
that
property
and
when
we,
if
and
when
we're
able
to
acquire
that
our
intent
would
be
to
work
with
the
city
and
other
organizations
to
create
a
true
waterfront
access,
because
there's
already
people
there
they're
fishing
and
using
that
property.
We
don't
want
to
make
it.
We
want
to
make
it
a
very
welcoming
experience.
We
don't
want
to
make
it
something
they
well
not
use,
but
we're
trying
to
pull
the
pieces
that
together,
but
unfortunately
I'm,
subject
to
the
port's
process.
K
I
understand
a
point
with
you
all:
have
a
wonderful
vision
for
them
and
you
know,
and
we
support
that
vision.
Could
you
do
a
MoU?
Should
you
were
to
own
the
property?
Yes,
under
the
auspices
of
obtaining
the
property
I
understand
you
may
not
work
it
out
with
SPE,
but
just
in
case
you
do.
Could
we
have
something
riding
on
that,
because
that's
a
wonderful
vision
that
you
are
paint
it
for
this
and
I
hope
I'm
pretty
to
get
it
done.
That's
why
I
voted
for
the
first
time
right.
L
Absolutely
I
have
no
I,
have
no
problem
keeping
this
council
up
to
date,
we've
been
keeping
the
community
up
to
date.
I
have
no
problem
with
that's
our
intent.
There
is
no
other
use,
there's
no
benefit
really
to
our
property.
You
know,
there's
some
permitting
challenges
with
it
too,
but
we're
thinking
how
level
and
hypothetically.
K
You
all
got
control
of
it
and
you
got
this
unreal
awful
and
you
sold
it.
I
understand,
listen
because
that
could
happen
and
the
new
owner
said.
I
didn't
agree
to
that.
Then
we
back
in
a
situation
where
we
are
uncomfortable
with
the
City
Council
actually
went
to
lawsuit.
The
city
actually
went
to
loss
of
the
long
bar.
In
my
understanding,
we
didn't
do
too
good
on
that
one.
L
M
N
Can't
really
zone
the
contract
zone
generally
speaking,
what
you
can
do
is
create
incentive
type
zones
and
I
think
the
conversation
here
and
I
don't
think.
I
haven't
been
involved
with
it
from
the
beginning,
I
think
there
may
have
been
a
conversation.
I
sat
in
at
one
point
where
was
discussed,
that
this
would
be
zoomed
upper
peninsula,
which
is
an
incentive-based
zone
where
they
can
get
additional
height
for
certain
of
certain
incentives
and
I
talked
to
mr.
Morgan
I.
N
Don't
think
they've
acquired
the
property
to
provide
public
access,
but
I
think
one
of
the
incentives
they
could
get
is
to
acquire
the
property,
provide
the
public
access
and
then
get
additional
height
because
they've
complied
with
that
incentive.
But
that's
not.
We
can't
make
that
a
condition
as
your
rezoning,
their
property.
We
have
to
do
it
based
on
compliance
with
other
the
rest
of
the
area,
how
it
fits
into
the
community,
really
the
police,
power,
health
safety,
those
types
of
issues,
but
we
can
incentivize
zoning
across
the
board,
which
I
think
this
would
do
here.
K
K
H
A
E
Morgan,
yes,
sir
next
item
is
number
five,
which
is
648
six
and
six
through
656
King
Street
on
the
peninsula.
That's
a
1.98
acre
site.
It's
currently
zoned
a
combination
of
general
business
and
light
industrial,
and
the
request
would
be
go
to
go
to
the
MU
to
workforce
housing
to
orient
you
to
the
site
we
have.
The
property
is
right
in
here.
It's
inside
the
two
sides
of
I
twenty
six
coming
into
the
city
here
and
exiting
the
city
here,
King
Street
goes
by
just
in
front
here.
E
The
low
country
low
line
is
to
the
rear.
It's
in
an
area
that
has
seen
a
lot
of
other
zonings
to
the
MU
to
workforce
housing
such
as
over
here
on
line
street
and
further
from
the
meeting
Street
area.
So
it
is
a
site
that
that
we
have
seen
this
type
of
zoning
for
and
it's
it's
an
appropriate
in
this
area
based
on
the
comprehensive
plan.
E
Just
a
couple
of
images
here
of
the
property
again
existing
one
story,
buildings
on
the
site
and
affects
up
to
the
low
line,
is
identified
on
that
image
and
some
views
from
King,
Street
and
again
another
view
from
King,
Street
and
adjacent
to
the
I
26
ramps
there
from
King,
Street
and
I
can
adjacent
the
ramps
and
across
the
street,
and
here
it
is
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
It
is
in
the
area
of
urban
core,
so
staff
and
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval.
This
request
would.
A
O
A
E
Then
we
have
number
six
1046
filing
Road,
it's
a
point,
six
six,
nine
acre
site
and
it
is
a
rezoning
from
residential
office
ro
to
commercial
transitional.
Again,
you
see
the
subject
property
here,
which
is
has
the
RO
on
it
on
the
map
here,
and
it
would
be
a
request
to
take
it
to
the
CT
zoning.
We
have
other
CT
just
down
the
street
from
it.
E
Other
properties
that
are
shown
in
white
on
this
map
are
in
the
town
of
James
Island,
but
the
CT
is
in
conformance
with
the
types
of
Zoning
that
are
in
the
surrounding
area.
Here,
here's
an
aerial
image
of
the
property,
it's
a
very
odd
shaped
parcel
and
then
here's
an
image
of
it
from
the
street
and
another
image
of
across
the
street
and
across
the
street
as
well.
And
here
it
is
at
the
corner
of
folly
Road
and
the
request
is
for
the
CT
zoning.
It
would
be
in
a
folly.
E
A
E
A
E
And
then
we
have
a
nine
item:
seven,
which
is
at
8:42
and
844
Magnolia
Road.
It's
a
request
to
take
some
existing
commercial
structures
from
SR,
3
single-family
residential
to
commercial
transitional
I
will
show
you
some
images,
it's
right
near
the
West
Ashley
bikeway,
which
is
the
Aryan
green
shown
on
the
image
here.
Here's
Magnolia,
Road,
running
north
and
south
backs
up
to
other
residential
in
the
area.
Here's
a
closer
or
further
away
aerial
image.
A
little
bit
closer.
E
You
can
see
the
commercial
structures
there
here
is
an
image
from
the
street
view
and
you
can
see
that
they're
currently
being
utilized
as
an
architect's
office.
It's
got
grandfather
commercial
uses
in
there
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
renovation
on
the
site.
Recently,
I
think
the
owner
has
worked
extensively
with
the
neighborhood
to
have
them
comfortable
with
this
rezoning
request
as
well
and
here's
property
across
the
street
and
just
org
and
surrounding
area
and
I'll
go
back
to
the
image
of
the
property.
So
both
staff
and
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval.
This
request
any.
K
Like
to
loud
the
the
owner
and
staff
and
everybody
involved
on
this-
and
this
used
to
be
a
Paint
and
Body
Shop
and
it
was
grandfather
under
being
general
business,
this
could
have
been
a
bar
and
stayed
open
until
2
o'clock
in
the
morning
in
the
middle
of
a
residential
area,
and
we
couldn't
have
done
anything
about
it.
This
actually
is
now
architect.
We
I,
don't
know
whether
we
have
we
have
awards
for
down
on
the
peninsula,
but
I
think
this
gentleman
needs
to
get
an
award
for.
K
If
you
look,
if
you
were
to
look
at
how
the
feet
and
body
shop
once
then
we
got
some
witnesses
and
all
the
audience
right
here
now
that
can
tell
you
how
it
was
I,
don't
even
know
him
but
I'm
proud
of
what
he's
done
over
there.
So
this
is
a
great
example
of
revitalizing
and
keeping
a
community
quiet
as
opposed
to
party
until
two
o'clock
in
the
morning.
P
Wonderful
appreciate
the
comments
we
we've
worked
with.
The
neighborhood
and
we've
invested
everything
of
our
own
money
because
we're
just
really
nearby
and
we
have
a
big
vision
to
try
to
help
out
the
neighborhoods
we'll
have
something
friendly
and
also
to
encourage
more
of
the
walkability
of
the
sidewalk
between
the
Avondale
area.
And
you
know
the
West
Ashley,
actually
River
location,
as
well
as
the
bye
click.
Then.
P
Q
A
echo
councilmember
Waring's
comments
about
this.
Mr.
mayor
and
councilmembers
that
this
property
was
marketed,
I
believe
for
commercial
sales
when
they,
when
they
bought
the
property
it
was
not
was
a.
There
was
an
intentional
misrepresentation.
I
just
think
anybody
seen
that
this
was
a
commercial
property
area.
So
when
you
walk
inside
this
building,
you
can
see
some
of
the
remainder
of
what
was
a
garage.
You
can
make
the
difference,
but
in
this
is
a
perfect
example
of
revitalization
and
we'll
be
looking
for
the
part
of
our
revitalization
efforts
on
west.
Q
Actually,
they
just
did
a
marvelous
job
that
they're
very
good
neighbors.
It
hosted
a
neighborhood
association
meeting
there
that
I
went
to
several
months
ago,
and
you
just
think
you're
in
a
different
world
when
you
go
into
their
property,
I
just
want
to
applaud
them
for
their
efforts
and
their
they're
good
neighbors
are
very
good
citizens
and
glad
to
have
this
come
forward.
We
can
do
this
for
them.
Thank.
A
E
The
final
public
hearing
is
number
8:
it's
an
amendment
to
our
light
industrial
and
heavy
industrial
zone
districts.
It
would
remove
residential
uses,
nursing
and
personal
care
uses
and
school
uses
from
these
districts.
At
the
request
of
council,
we
have
notified
all
property
owners
within
the
light
industrial
and
heavy
industrial
zone
districts
throughout
the
city.
These
are
the
parcels
that
are
around
the
city.
E
A
R
The
last
time
we
deferred
this
because
we
asked
to
get
a
list
of
the
properties
so
that
we
could
make
sure
that
we
didn't
have
any
thing
affected
and
I
don't
know
if
y'all
got
a
list.
I
never
got
a
list,
but
I
think
that's
important,
because
we
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
down
zoning
anybody
here.
Obviously,
I
support
this
I
just
want
to
make
sure
there's
there
might
be
an
outliar
or
two
that
are
affected.
That
we'd
like
to
look
at
as
a
council
I.
A
E
A
S
My
name
is
Robert
Mallard
I'm,
a
property
owner
on
James
Island
affected
by
de
stoning,
James
I
have
20
acres
of
light
and
heavy
industrial
that
fronts
on
folly,
road
and
signal
Point,
Road
and
downgrade
in
this
not
being
able
to
have
residential,
including
the
nursing
and
assisted
living
effects.
My
property
value
and
we've
been
paying
taxes
on
this
for
many
years.
You
know
with
knowing
that
we
had
some
options.
T
A
A
A
Property,
yes,
but
it
must
be
zone
light,
industrial
or
heavy
industrial
right.
Okay,
well,
I'm,
pretty
sure
if
you
had
somebody
living
there
now
that
that
use
would
be
grandfathered
in,
but
we
would
welcome
you
to
apply
to
have
the
proper
property
properly
resumed.
If
you're
not
planning
on
building
a
industrial
facility
there,
we
would
welcome
a
rezoning
of
the
property
to
a
residential,
appropriate
zoning.
So.
A
A
U
U
U
E
A
O
Thank
you,
mr.
mayor,
so
I
guess,
I'll
just
sort
of
lead
by
saying
I'm
gonna
say
something
you
probably
haven't
heard
of
these
chambers
for
a
long
time,
and
that
is
I
agree
with
mr.
Mallard.
That's
something
I've
heard
a
long
time
all
right.
So
mr.
Morgan,
you
got
it
inside
Jeff.
How
many
acres
total
are
we
about
to
downs
on
I.
O
O
So
one
of
the
things
mr.
mayor,
that
we
have
talked
a
lot
about
over
the
course
of
my
tenure
on
this
council
and
since
you've
been
here,
is
housing
and
where
people
live
and
affordable
housing
and
all
that
by
and
large,
the
properties
that
are
highlighted
in
red
that
we're
now
talking
about
down
zoning
or
undeveloped
properties
by
large
or
not
as
developed
as
some,
not
as
densely
developed
with
some
other
places
right.
We
are
now
about
to
tell
mr.
O
Mallard
that
we're
gonna
rezone
him
down
zone
him
and
invite
him
to
come
back
and
ask
to
be
zoned
back
up
again.
We're
rezoning
to
ask
people
to
rezone
I
cannot
be
more
posed
to
this
I
think
this
is
going
one
step
way
too
far
and
if
our
goal
is
to
ultimately
manage
what's
going
on
in
the
city
and
plan
for
it
to
take
housing.
Mr.
mayor
out
of
the
equation
for
all
these
properties,
when
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
build
housing,
that's
affordable,
how
do
you
build
affordable
housing?
O
O
I
don't
mean
the
whole
idea
of
ferreting
out
what
people
are
thinking
about
in
the
future
on
their
properties
by
rezoning
them
asking
them
come
back
for
a
rezoning
line
up,
and
do
it
all
over
again
that
just
can't
be
the
way
to
do
this.
We've
got
it
there's
if
there's
some
mission
out
there
to
identify
places
that
we
want
to
have
warehousing
or
have
access
to
the
peninsula
for
commercial
use,
and
all
that,
let's
do
that,
but
nets.
O
O
One
of
the
things
that
we
desperately
need
to
think
about
for
the
future
as
we
go
forward
is
how
do
we
put
people
in
close
proximity
where
they
live,
work
play,
go
to
school
and
all
those
things
and
have
some
density.
So
we
don't
have
cars
all
over
the
place
and
all
the
things
we
worry
about
infrastructure
funding.
We've
got
to
do
planning
other
than
say
we'll.
Take
all
these
red
blots
and
say
you
can't
build
a
house
there
ever
and
in
perpetuity.
O
Obviously,
I'm
going
to
vote
against
this
I'm,
going
to
encourage
my
fellow
council
members
to
vote
against
this,
and,
let's
think
about
this
in
a
better
way
than
just
take
a
red
map,
downzone
it
and
say
no
housing
under
these
properties
that
entire
east
side
of
the
peninsula.
Now
on
the
water
there
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
build
a
house
or
residential
or
any
I
entered
in
the
in
the
future.
O
Let
me
tell
you
not:
all
of
that
is
going
to
be
forever
in
the
hands
of
the
Port
Authority
or
any
other
thing,
so
it
should
be
appropriately
zoned
or
available
for
some
things
that
we
can
do
in
the
future,
including,
but
not
limited
to
housing
and
affordable
housing.
Mr.
mayor
is
going
to
get
increasingly
difficult
in
the
city.
It's
not
just
on
the
peninsula.
There's
lots
of
other
places.
There
there's
big
red
dots
blots
that
we
need
density
on
and
that's
got
to
be
space.
O
V
O
A
I
may
reply
to
that
councilmember
seeking
you
described,
you
know
going
through
a
process
where
you
identify
those
sites
where
warehouses
and
commercial
uses
and
industrial
uses
are
appropriate.
Well,
that's
what
created
these
red
and
orange
box
was
exactly
that
process,
because
these
properties
were
zone
light
and
heavy
industrial
I
can't
imagine
that
our
predecessors
envisioned.
A
You've
got
what
used
to
be
a
County
landfill
here
to
another
youth,
but
it
will
get
rezone
there
coming
to.
This
is
inner
Morgan,
which
was
the
former
oil
refinery
that
standard
the
world
founded
in
the
late
20s,
mostly
contaminated,
and
under
you
know
those
covenants
where
you
would
not
allow
this.
A
This
is
a
concrete
yard.
This
is
a
bit.
This
is
the
largest
property
taxpayer
instance.
This
is
a
chemical
plant,
and
so
these
rabbits
they're
large,
but
they
were
there
for
a
reason
because
they
were
specifically
flight
and
industrial
uses
and
I
believe
that
we
need
to
maintain
places
for
those
uses
to
occur
and
not
for
them
to
be
gobbled
up
by
residential
use,
which
is
what's
happening
in
our
marketplace,
and
the
best
example
is
on
John's
Island.
A
We
had
property
surrounding
the
John's,
Island
executive
airport
kind
of
protecting
it
in
a
way
if
you
will
and
allowing
for
commercial
development
and
what
happens
if
someone
came
along
and
nobody
really
wanted
them
to,
but
they're
putting
a
residential
development
right
next
to
the
airport,
and
that
doesn't
make
sense.
So
if
we're
gonna
have
light
industrial
and
heavy
industrial,
let's,
let's
have
it,
and
you
know
if
it's
a
duck,
let
it
be
a
duck.
O
O
The
road
might
want
to
do
another
thing
and,
as
you've
now
pointed
out,
if
we're
inviting
someone
would
we're
gonna
rezone
invite
them
to
come
back
and
rezone
it
and
you've
already
sort
of
led
with
your
chin
a
little
bit
that
we
don't
like
that
kind
of
housing
zoning
so
we're
inviting
them
to
come
back
for
rezoning.
They
might
not
get
that
they
have
now
that's
a
problem
for
me
and
so
I've
made
my
point.
You've
made
yours
we'll
see
how
this
all
goes
around
the
table.
U
E
E
Q
Q
And
I
understand
what
the
mayor's
comments
were
about
the
chemical
plan
and
the
sewage
plant,
but
other
areas
along
the
East
Bay
quarter
of
that
are
properties
that
are
not
that
industrial
I
mean
it.
For
instance,
is
this
map
include
I,
can't
remember
the
name
of
the
the
condominium
unit.
That's
next
to
the
Maritime
Center.
Is
that
fault
the
not
dockside?
Now
that
they
are
they
read
on
the
other
side
of
that
said,
so
that's
that's
excluded.
So
that's
right!
Next
to
that,
I
understand
that.
Q
But
if
you
look
at
the
map-
and
this
is
what
speaks
a
little
bit
illogical
for
me-
to
follow
the
we're
trying
to
do
here
right
next
to
the
Maritime
Center,
which
is
we're
going
right
next
to
the
Museum,
the
International
African
American
Museum,
there's
a
cut
as
it
is
not
only
dark
side,
there's
also
another
piece
of
property
where
those
high-end
condos
are
allocated
I
understand
that.
But
if
you
look
at
the
overall
general
area
of
that,
you
you,
it
fits
in
it's
sort
of
an
island
of
its
own.
Q
That's
that
you
allow
to
keep
as
a
residential
area
the
area
around
it.
This
is
a
light
industrial
that
we're
talking
about.
If
you
go
further
up,
East
Bay
Street,
along
behind
Concord
Street
across
the
street,
is
the
accounting
office
and
the
plumbing
supplies
place.
Those
areas
that
have
residential
uses
already
there
and
their
residences
are
spotted
along
the
area.
I
think
that
the
issue
may
be
that
I
think
we're
over
brought
on
on
some
on
some
of
this
area.
We've
got
too
too
much
of
an
orange
or
red.
That's
true.
Q
So
the
problem
I
have
with
this
that
some
of
the
area,
that's
included
in
this
map,
may
still
be
suitable
for
residential
use,
and
that's
so
the
prime
I
understand
the
mayor
is
concerned
about
the
sewerage
area
in
the
chemical
plant.
I
mean
that
makes
sense
to
be
obviously
but
other
areas
along
that
corridor
may
still
be
suitable
for
housing.
Some
that's
my
concern
with
this
I.
K
K
Okay,
that
was
a
landfill.
If
you
were
to
dig
deep
enough
there's
so
many
things
on
that
landfill,
you
probably
find
a
buried
Martian
up
where
he
crash-lands
and
look
at
the
residential
that
was
our
gateway
coming
into
the
city
of
Charleston.
We
used
to
come
in
from
West
and
we'd,
see
seagulls
and
trash,
and
everything
blowing
across
at
what
was
called
a
city
dump
look
at
what
we're
doing
to
west
edge.
Today.
K
Look
at
the
residents,
the
mixed
use,
the
offices,
the
retail,
the
Publix,
is
going
to
open
very
soon.
The
apartments
across
from
the
Joe
Reilly
Stadium
is
already
being
occupied
matter
of
fact.
Nobody
would
have
envisioned
Joe
Reilly
Stadium
being
on
that
landfill,
so
to
say
that
residential
areas
won't
be
able
to
go
where
State
Ports
Authority
is
well.
Let
me
say
this
when,
when
the
Global
Gateway
was
proposed,
it
was
in
conjunction
with
the
city
and
madam
Clerk
may
even
remember
this.
K
It
was
some
way
around
not
quite
25
years
ago,
State
Ports
Authority,
along
with
the
city's
help,
did
a
land-use
plan
on
their
Columbus
Street
terminals
and
I
wish
you
could
have
seen
it.
It
was
absolutely
beautiful,
had
a
new
road
with
shops,
commercial
shopping,
residential
mixed-use
right
at
Columbus
tree
terminal
I
saw
it.
I
was
on
the
Planning
Commission
when
it
was
presented
to
us.
K
It
was
absolutely
beautiful
so
to
say
that,
20
years
from
now
to
take
away
residential
use
up
there,
when
we
have
more
of
a
mixed
use
today,
potential
anyway
makes
use
today,
I
understand
the
the
the
contamination.
Mr.
mayor,
that
you
you
refer
to,
you
definitely
write
about
that,
but
that's
what
we
doing
up
at
Magnolia
right
now,
look
at
the
cleanup,
that's
being
done
up
at
Magnolia
and
look
at
the
density
that
we've
already
approved
for
Magnolia
portions
and
to
say
that
that
can
never
happen.
K
Oh
that
shouldn't
happen
on
the
east
side
of
the
peninsula.
That's
just
too
many
hundreds
of
acres,
that's
saying
that
there
would
be
no
affordable
housing
ever
if
we
keep
the
zoning
up
there.
I
just
think
it's
too
much
of
a
chunk
we
biting
off
right
now
and
for
those
reasons
I'm
not
gonna
support
you
I.
A
Just
want
to
respond
very
quickly,
I'm,
not
saying
that
any
of
these
properties
would
never
have
residential.
Many
of
them,
like
mr.
mallards,
might
be
more
appropriate
right
now
and
we
should
rezone
them.
But
here's
the
thing
about
our
entitlements
for
residential
okay,
for
light
industrial
and
and
heavy
industrial.
How
many
units
per
acre?
Can
you
build
19
units
per
acre?
How
many
of
them
have
to
be
affordable?
K
Johansen
you'll
response
respond
to
what
you
just
said:
yeah,
that's
a
feeling,
our
Planning
Department,
by
not
being
inclusive
with
zoning,
that's
what
they
should
be
bringing
in
front
of
us.
Would
you
just
say:
that's
what
we
should
be
amending
to
include
the
affordable
aspect
of
it.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
highlighting
that.
Well,
that's
what
should
be
in
front
of
us
well
well,.
A
With
all
due
respect,
that's
why
we've
been
asking
the
state
legislature
for
the
last
two
years
to
allow
municipalities
to
in
basically
forcing
inclusionary
zoning.
The
only
reason
we
can
get
the
affordability
requirement
we
have
is
because
it's
an
incentive
base
or
voluntary
zoning.
You
know
you're
not
going
to
get
there
with
current
state
law.
K
A
Voluntary,
our
property
owners
are
requesting
it
just
like
they
did
tonight.
We
pass
three
new
MU
workforce
housing
zonings.
Those
property
owners
asked
for
it
and
I'm
sitting
up
here,
loving
it
because
I
know
that
that
means
when
they
develop
that
they're
gonna
have
to
provide
some
more
affordable
units,
but
I
can't
force
it
on
them
if
they
didn't
change
the
MU,
if
they
just
a
general
business
and
did
26
units
per
acre,
there's
no
requirement.
Nor
can
we
force
them
to
have
a
requirement
for
affordability.
That's
what
this
is
partly
all
about.
No.
T
G
Want
to
say,
I
don't
know,
I
feel
like
this
is
sort
of
a
failure
to
communicate,
because
we
I
mean
I
resonate
with
the
with
the
logic
that
zoning
should
be
like
the
dictionary
you
get
a
definition
that
makes
sense
to
you
know:
people
outside
of
Charleston.
You
know
how
many
you
know:
potential
property
owners
and
builders
were
attracting
here
when
they
pick
up
our
zoning
code
and
they
see
the
word
light
industry
or
heavy
industry.
They
should
know
what
they're
looking
at
there.
G
There
is
nothing
to
say
that
every
applicant
or
every
landowner
who
wakes
up
tomorrow
and
realizes
oh
I,
can
only
sell
to
somebody
who
wants
to
build
a
factory
can't
sell
their
property,
conditioned
on
having
it
rezone
to
what
we
actually
want
and
what
the
new
owner
will
be
doing.
There
I
mean
we
just.
We
just
went
through
seven
different
items
where
we
change
zoning
to
suit
our
future
land
use
map
and
the
property
owners
who
want
to
serve
our
city
in
correspondence
to
the
zoning.
G
So
I
don't
really
understand
what
we're
arguing
about
it's,
not
down
zoning,
it's
right,
zoning
and
mr.
Mallard.
When
he
came
up
before
the
the
hearing
you
know
said
Oh
as
long
as
you'll
support
me,
rezoning
to
some
sort
of
residential
use,
potentially
I'm,
fine
with
that
or
a
general
business.
So
we're
really
just
correcting
the
dictionary
and
making
it
make
sense
to
everyone
and
then
allowing
people
to
have
their
zoning.
That
will
work
with
our
comprehensive
plan
and
our
land
use
planning
and
we'll
get
more.
What
from
what
we
would.
K
R
You
know
when
I
first
looked
at
this
I
thought
this
was
a
great
idea,
the
more
that
I
listened
to
you
y'all
do
have
some
really
really
valid
points
here,
but
I
want
us
to
keep
this
conversation
going
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
Number
one
we've
talked
a
lot
about.
Why
we
shouldn't
do
this
and
you
know
we
need
to
keep
affordable
housing
options.
We
need
to
keep
some
residential
options,
but
at
the
same
time
we
got
to
think
about
our
ports
too.
We
got
to
think
about
our
maritime
industry.
R
We
have
to
think
about
by
2020
we're
gonna
have
the
deepest
port
on
this
coast,
and
so
at
the
same
time
that
we're
trying
to
protect
some
residential
uses.
We
can't
drive
these
warehouses
and
these
these
maritime
ministries
away
either
so
I
don't
want
us
to
do
one
or
the
other
I
thought
that
by
this
meeting
we
would
have
a
list
of
these
properties
that
we
could
look
through
and
see
who's
an
outlier
see
where
there's
some
variances,
where
we
could
do
some
different
things
and
we
make
the
decision
and
we
didn't
have
that
happen.
R
Today.
We
came
back
in
here
looking
at
the
same
map.
We
looked
at
last
time,
never
saw
the
blow
up
and
never
saw
the
properties
and
that's
why
I'm
mad,
because
I
think
we
could
have
made
a
lot
better,
cohesive
agreement
tonight,
maybe
done
some
different
things
change
this
ordinance
up
a
little
bit,
but
instead
we're
going
one
or
the
other,
because
we
still
don't
have
any
information.
I
Sheila
I
I
think
a
couple
months
ago.
One
of
the
reasons
why
this
came
up.
We
had
a
piece
of
property
that
was
coming
that
was
asking
to
be
annexed
into
the
city
and
it
was
in
the
county
and
if
their
zoning
laws
are
so
different
than
ours,
they
were
able
to
put
this
together
that
we're
gonna
plan
on
putting
a
condo
complex
in
an
area
that
we
felt
like
was
not
a
good
area.
There
is
there
any
way
for
us
to
zone
this?
I
For
someone
that's
coming
in
that's
trying
to
annex
into
the
city,
because
I
think
part
of
our
issue
was
that
the
county
and
the
city
were
so
different
that
people
were
zoning
into
the
city
to
do
things
different,
that
they
couldn't
do
in
the
county
and
we
actually
turned
somebody
away,
which
was
a
rare
thing
for
us
to
do
three
or
four
months
ago,
on
a
property.
So
could
we
make
this
where
it's
for
someone
coming
in
new
new
to
the
city,
I,
guess
and
xìng
in
well.
A
O
We
can
condition
an
annexation
on
a
particular
zoning
I
mean
we
don't
that's
different
than
what
mr.
McQueen
he
said.
If
someone
wants
to
come
into
the
city,
we
could
say
we'd
love
to
have
you
light
industrial,
all
right
or
whatever.
This
is
different.
These
are
existing
zoning
on
large
scales
and
one
of
the
things
that
sort
of
caught
my
eye
about
this
map,
because
some
of
those
properties
mayor
you
point
out
our
massive
and
will
likely
be
industrial
for
a
long
time.
It
sort
of
obscures
some
of
those.
O
O
If
the
idea
is
to
protect
powder
areas
in
the
industrial
framework,
let's
have
the
industrial
preservation
zone
unless
identify
where
we
really
want
in
perpetuity
to
have
industry
and
go
figure
that
out
and
make
it
smaller
but
I,
and
that
is
a
lot
more
work
on
the
front
end.
But
I
predict
it's
better
than
the
back
end
work.
O
We're
gonna
have
when
everybody
comes
back
around
and
realize
that
what
happened
and
wants
to
rezone
or
rezone,
and
we
may
have
winners
or
losers
in
that,
because
who
knows
what
happens
between
council
the
Planning
Commission
aback,
we
may
say
yay
on
some
properties
and
nay
on
other
properties.
We
got
to
be
consistent
that
this
system,
II,
is
not
the
way
to
do
it.
Altamira
griffin,.
R
I
would
ask
my
fellow
councilmembers
indulge
in
and
a
deferral
of
this
and
have
asked
that
we
get
a
list
of
the
properties
and
and
a
list
of
the
map
so
that
we
can
actually
look
at
it,
and
if
there
are
properties
in
the
middle,
then
we
can
really
make
a
decision.
Maybe
you're
right
I
like
that
idea
that
we
have
a
corridor
for
four
warehouses
and
four
industrial
business
maritime
related
activities.
But
it's
hard
to
tell
when
you're
looking
at
it
now.
K
K
Q
B
K
O
O
B
A
A
C
W
Am
a
resident
of
an
oak
and
that's
a
senior
citizen,
resident
and
I
guess.
Maybe
some
of
you
have
heard
that
how
they
want
to
point
us
out
of
there,
so
they
can
raise
the
red
well
I'm
here,
because
I
don't
think
it's
fair
how
it
was
done
on
July
11th
we
were
adult
was
stuck
at
our
door,
saying
that
they
will
start
replenishing
the
place
and
tearing
up
this
and
that
and
they
will
start
on
the
16th.
W
That's
the
first
time
we
ever
heard
of
it
and
we've
been
getting
these
different
notes
in
our
doors.
They
also
offered
us
in
lesson
two
there's
two
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
to
move.
Okay,
that's
not
gonna,
do
anything!
Okay
and
another
one
other
thing.
We
were
given
a
list
of
different
apartments
residents
to
move
in
and
they're
still
there
all
under
the
same
management
company
that
we
are
moving
from
so
who's
to
say:
they're,
not
going
to
do
the
same
thing
to
us
that
they're
doing
with
us
this
place.
W
B
D
To
thank
Doug
Lee
Gregory
for
a
great
resolution
and
and
appreciate
that
and
I
go
to
the
museum.
Now
I
wasn't
gonna
go
until
it
was
done
and
it
was
done
and
I
definitely
support
the
museum
moving
forward.
I
did
make
public
comment
to
the
Army
Corps
Engineers
regarding
the
the
the
the
rail
system
and
also
I
made
public
comment
regarding
a
deepening
of
the
port
and
that
it
in
fact
they
may
have
been
flooding
in
our
community.
Maybe
the
mitigation
can
be
done
all
over
again
based
on
the
flooding.
D
We
were
all
right
with
flooding
until
they
they're
gonna
go
20
more
feet.
Deeper
and
Drake
streets
are
even
flooded
already,
probably
more
flooded,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we
understand
clearly
that
there
are
people
making
comments
to
the
Army
Corps
engineers
and
ensure
that
people
are
treated
fairly
the
mitigation
process.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
sir.
F
Evening,
mayor
City,
Council,
Mohammed,
Aziz
I
want
to
thank
councilman
seeking
he
made
a
statement
on
the
17th.
They
had
money
who
run
this.
He
said
the
poor
people
they
have
to
stand
behind
because
money
running
this
city,
that's
what
he
said.
They
are
pretty
long
after
he
ducks
Santa
they
putting
the
building
up.
They
called
Big
Bertha,
Big
Bertha,
and
this
was
Big.
Bertha
is
a
gun
and
then
God
appointed
at
the
docks,
Pete
theater.
F
They
had
this
picture
before
a
man
upside
down
on
the
tub.
We
don't
need
no
Big
Bertha
in
our
neighborhood.
We
need
residentially
resident
in
the
neighborhood.
So
reacting
you
again
to
look
into
this
as
you're.
Looking
to
other
things
you
have,
we
don't
have
the
money,
let
your
friends
have
but
look
up
for
the
poor
people.
B
X
Y
In
the
meantime,
while
we
have
supported
this
is
a
good
starting
place
from
the
beginning,
we
have
learned
a
great
deal
as
a
community
in
the
past
two
years,
given
the
extensive
conversation
around
the
topic
of
short-term
rentals,
we
know
now
that
accommodation
uses
are
not
limited.
To
short-term.
Excuse
me
to
hotels
alone.
There
are
good
ideas
brought
to
the
table
that
are
missing
from
this
proposal.
Y
X
X
Z
Evening,
my
name
is
Marsha
Higgins
and
I'm.
Also
a
resident
of
Ashley
bill
I
come
for
the
same
issue
and
reference
to
a
rezoning
proposal
to
decrease
the
required
lot
size
for
houses
built
in
the
ash
level
and
marital
area.
We
would
like
the
lot
size
to
remain
at
50
by
a
hundred.
My
understanding
is.
The
proposal
was
first
for
35
by
a
hundred
feet.
Now
it's
at
the
point
of
40
by
a
hundred
feet,
35
by
a
hundred
feet
about
40
by
a
hundred
feet.
Z
B
AA
Am
NOT
going
to
repeat
what
was
said
on
the
June
2018
meeting,
but
I
do
want
to
reiterate
a
few
points.
Since
the
item
is
back
on
the
agenda
again,
the
Maryville
Asheville
Neighborhood
Association
recognizes
and
supports
the
need
for
affordable
housing,
as
well
as
a
creative,
multi-prong
approach.
We
have
preached.
We
appreciate
the
work
already
committed
to
the
area
while
recognizing
the
fragile
level
of
trust
between
some
citizens
and
our
governing
bodies.
We
are
asking
that
we
not
use
affordable
housing
as
a
tool
to
address
other
issues.
AA
One
of
the
visions
of
plan
Wes
Ashley,
is
to
preserve
community
character.
The
layouts,
while
community
was
set
in
1885
when
Mary
Bowen
Taff
had
the
land
planted
four
units
50
feet
by
a
hundred
feet.
The
recommendation
to
reduce
frontage
requirement
only
benefits,
in
our
opinion,
the
developers,
even
though
it
is
stated
that
the
ruling
would
only
apply
for
affordable
housing
in
the
city.
The
reality
is
some
neighborhoods
would
not
be
affected,
but
only
maple.
It's
like
mine.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
AB
Theresa,
Hilliard
and
I
am
NOT,
going
to
repeat
everything,
but
I
support.
What
the
three
ladies
before
me
when
they
came
up
and
talked
about
the
lot
sizes,
we
want
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
our
community
and
we
want
to
keep
it
the
lock
sizes
at
50
by
a
hundred
as
they
said,
because
that's
what
that
community
was
built
on
and
we
wanted
to
remain
that
way.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Ma'am.
AC
Last
month,
the
first
regional
housing
trust
fund
coalition,
convened
for
the
first
time,
Michael
Anderson
national
housing
trust
fund
experts
from
the
Center
for
Community
Change
gave
a
presentation
on
Housing,
Trust
Funds
and
the
implications
that
it
could
have
for
our
tri-county
area.
There
are
over
780
Housing
Trust
Funds
nationally,
and
they
produce
more
than
1.5
billion
dollars
a
year
for
affordable
housing.
The
regional
housing
trust
fund
isn't
just
a
good
idea
for
our
community.
AC
AD
I'm
Meryl
Chapman
I
represent
the
Brady
Campaign
to
Prevent,
Gun
Violence
and
I'd
like
to
say
that
we
support
the
ordinance
and
resolution
to
make
us
safer
by
a
gun.
Violence
in
the
city
of
Charleston
we're
looking
at
over
a
month
and
a
half
less
than
a
month
and
a
half
from
when
a
bump
stock
was
used
to
kill
58
people
and
wound
over
500
in
Las
Vegas.
AD
AE
Richardson
I
am
a
victim
advocate
and
I
also
represent
the
Charleston
Brady
Campaign,
and
we
are
asking
for
your
support
for
the
ordinance
and
the
proclamation
on
the
bump
stock.
For
example,
we
have
victims
and
survivors
of
homicide
that
we
watch
dearly
every
day.
That
goes
through
so
much
pain
and
what
we
are
our
purpose
and
mission
is
to
people
to
prevent
gun
violence,
didn't
increase
it
by
2025
and
be
doing
the
ordinance,
and
the
proclamation
will
be
a
step
forward
in
that
process.
Thank
you.
AF
As
a
council
as
well
aware,
bump
stocks
were
used
in
the
deadliest
mass
shooting
in
modern
history
in
Las
Vegas.
These
devices
have
one
purpose
to
effectively
turn
a
semi-automatic
firearm
into
an
automatic
weapon
or
a
machine
gun.
Bump
stocks
are
extremely
dangerous.
In
fact,
even
the
Trump
administration
agrees
and
they
have
moved
to
outlawed
bump
stocks
on
a
federal
level.
However,
there's
no
reason
to
wait
for
the
federal
government's
process
to
play
out.
It's
made
be
delayed
by
regulatory
processes
or
legal
channels.
AF
AG
Hi,
my
name
is
Lisa
Hussey
I'm,
a
resident
of
Charlestown,
Village
and
I'm.
Also
a
volunteer
for
moms
demand,
action
for
gun
sense
in
America
I'm,
here
to
add
my
voice
to
the
growing
list
of
moms
and
other
citizens
who
support
the
city's
resolution
to
advance
reasonable
gun
legislation
and,
in
particular,
the
prohibition
to
enhance
firearms.
Thank.
B
AH
My
name
is
Leslie
Armstrong
I'm,
also,
obviously,
with
moms
demand.
Action.
I
just
want
to
add
my
voice
to
what
the
previous
few
speakers
just
said,
I'm
thrilled
that
the
city
is
doing
the
resolution
to
protect
Charleston
citizens
from
senseless
gun,
violence,
I'm
a
grandmother
of
ten
three
of
my
grandchildren
live
in
Charleston
and
we
are
living
in
a
public
health
crisis.
So
please
do
whatever
you
can
to
enact
ordinances
and
laws
that
will
protect
our
children,
protect
officers,
our
citizens.
Thank
you
very
much.
AG
AI
The
resolution
about
reasonable
gun
legislation
now
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
some
things
that
are
not
in
our
control
seem
like
there's
just
symbolic,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
over
time,
we
thought
that
never
happened
and
I
think
we
need
to
steep
continue
to
push
for
legislation
to
let
Columbus
Colombia
know
that
that
there
is
that
support,
and
ultimately
things
can
change.
I'd
like
to
in
the
last
few
seconds.
AI
It's
obviously
a
hot
city,
and
this
is
our
one
shot
to
be
able
to
get
developers
whether
some
things
we
can
require
some
things
have
to
be
incentives,
but
to
get
them
to
do
more
things
to
make
new
developments
environmentally
protective.
This
is
our
opportunity
it's
going
to
be
too
late
later,
and
also
to
try
to
be
a
little
more
creative
in
the
design.
Some
things
like
the
post
and
career
building
really
not
very
attractive,
and
we
want
our
city
to
be
architectural
II
interesting.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
AJ
As
president
and
CEO
of
Charleston's
sister
cities
I'm
here
to
thank
you
for
in
City
Council
for
making
my
recent
trip
to
Panama
to
prepare
for
a
trade
mission
that
we're
doing
in
October
possible
and
while
I
was
there.
I
was
very
much
welcomed
by
the
city
of
Panama
and
particularly
mayor
blonde
on
that
set
this
little
token
of
his
affection
and
esteem
for
you
and
expressed
his
interest
in
meeting
you
hopefully
next
spring.
AJ
So
thank
you
and
we
invite
you
to
come
mayor
blonde
owned
and
extended
an
invitation
for
you
to
come
to
Panama
for
the
trade
mission
and
City
Council.
We'd
certainly
appreciate
any
interest
that
you
might
show
as
well
and
we're
offering
an
export
seminar
to
Panama
on
September
7th
at
Friday.
So
this
is
our
grant
money
that
we
were
received
from
the
city
at
work,
we're
using
it
effectively
for
what
it
was
designed
for.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
support.
AK
Good
evening
Council,
it's
been
a
long
evening
so
far,
and
it's
not
done
yet.
The
word
flooding
has
come
up
numerous
times
and
I'm
sure
it's
gonna
be
coming
up
even
more.
We
spent
this
summer
under
whole
different
d'ailleurs.
We
didn't
get
storm
surge,
but
we
did
have
a
huge
drainage
problem
and
I
have
to
agree
that
there's
not
a
lot
to
show
for
it.
AK
AL
Hi
I'm
Susan,
Lyons
I'm,
also
speaking
for
groundswell
for
a
solid
year,
we
have
been
trying
to
bring
flooding
to
the
top
of
the
agenda
and
there's
been
an
awful
lot
of
talk
about
flooding.
There
have
been
lots
of
plans
discussed,
but
the
fact
is
that
we
are
about
to
go
through
another
hurricane
season
and
absolutely
nothing
has
changed
in
Charleston.
All
of
us
who
live
here
are
going
to
be
in
exactly
the
same
position.
We
were
last
October
and
we
know
what
happened
then.
B
B
AM
Afternoon,
my
name
is
Louise
Brown
and
I
am
with
the
Brady
Campaign
against
gun
violence.
The
ATM
does
not
recognize
the
sort
of
gun
violence,
but
we
as
an
individual.
We
do.
We
recognize
that
gun
violence
is
bad,
very
bad
and
we
would
like
to
see
the
palm
stickers,
so
we
can
get
rather
of
gun
violence,
so
many
people
are
being
killed
by
guns.
AM
We
have
got
to
have
a
law,
the
ATM
have
to
stop
it
because
we
have
junkies
kids
going
to
school
in
classrooms
like
the
kids
that
was
killed
in
class
God
went
and
killed
young
kids
in
school.
We
can't
have
this.
We
have
got
to
stop
the
violence.
We've
got
to
stop
gunfire.
We
have
to
put
a
limit
on.
The
guns
is
out
there
number
one.
What
we
have
to
do
is
have
the
gun
show
not
having
gun
violence,
have
the
pawnshop
not
selling
gun.
AM
A
AN
AN
Unfortunately,
we
haven't
had
enough
time
to
take
a
look
at
the
document
to
review
it.
We
only
received
it
just
recently
and
even
though
we
support
it
we're
going
to
support
the
hearing,
we
would
ask
that
you
not
go
to
the
second
hearing
until
all
parties
have
had
a
chance
to
kind
of
review
it
and
take
a
look
at
it
and
come
to
some
kind
of
concurrence
that
we
would
that
both
the
industry
in
the
city
can
can
agree
on.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
A
G
Yes,
the
Kodiak
Committee
on
Community
Development
met
on
Thursday
July
26th,
and
there
is
one
item
as
a
result
of
that
committee
meeting.
That
is
before
the
council
tonight.
We
discussed
it
in
ways
and
means
we're
asking
that
the
council
approved
the
issuance
of
the
strategic
plan
and
application
in
order
to
begin
to
use
the
twenty
million
dollar
bond
fund
that
was
created
by
the
public's
referendum
vote
last
year.
G
B
G
K
Right,
council,
member
wearing
this
for
clarification
on
theirs
item
j1c
as
a
part
of
this
a
part
of
this
report,
because
as
I
remember
it
mr.
mayor
working
on
the
incentives
for
the
affordable
housing,
I
thought
we
sent
that
the
committee
sent
that
back
to
staff
to
work
on
and
they
were
supposed
to
come
back
to
the
committee.
Okay,
is
that
in
front
of
it?
Is
that
part
of
your
report?
Miss
Jackson.
K
A
G
AO
G
A
Q
You
mr.
mayor
members
of
council,
the
Committee
on
Public
Safety,
met
on
all
this
tonight.
At
5:30
we
received
a
crime
statistic:
presentation
from
chief
lutheran
Runnels
I
can
give
you
some
of
the
highlights
of
that.
We've
had
10
homicides
in
the
city
of
Charleston
of
those
10
homicides
this
year,
chief
is
present.
He'll.
Give
you
a
little
more
in-depth
discussion
on
this
all,
but
one
of
them
involved
a
firearm.
He
also
talked
about
the
number
of
trapped
fatalities
that
have
occurred
over
the
past
several
years.
Q
AP
Q
The
90
appeared
we're
worried
compared
what
one
point
hundred
percent
of
fatalities
were
impaired
drivers
the
cheapest
here
give
us
a
little
in-depth
study
about
that.
But
I
just
wanted
to
point.
Those
two
highlights
out
to
you.
As
to
the
statistics,
we
did
not
have
a
discussion
regarding
firearms
being
kept
in
unlocked
cars.
We
deferred
that
presentation
till
next
being
chief
couriers
present
with
us
today
in
Korea
was
here
a
moment
ago.
Our.
M
Q
He
would
just
sworn
in
Korea:
their
areas
are
new
fire
chief.
Welcome
to
your
first
City
Council
meeting.
There
was
a
report
from
the
department
or
the
emergency
management.
Now
the
next
two
things
on
the
agenda
or
before
you
use
an
ordinance
to
talk
about
the
bump
stock,
prohibition
and
a
resolution
in
your
agenda
as
well,
so
chief
Reynolds
anything
else.
You
want
to
add
to
the
decision
that
you
presented
to
us
on
I
think.
AQ
Just
like
in
a
minute
when
we
talked
about
these
ordinances,
it's
important
to
talk
about
issues
that
are
impacting
the
city
fatalities,
impaired
driving,
I,
don't
think
we
can
talk
about
it
enough.
It
was
recently
that
we
all
mourn
the
loss
of
Selma,
who
was
here
from
Denmark
with
her
parents
and
I
think
when
we
put
a
face
on
the
gun,
violence
on
the
deaths
and
I'll
do
that
in
a
minute
a
little
bit
when
we
talk
about
these
ordinances,
it's
important
to
create
a
conversation
around
these
things.
AQ
There's
not
an
immediate,
easy
overnight
solution,
but
the
trending
is
in
the
wrong
direction,
and
so,
when
we
look
at
guns,
we
look
at
the
homicides.
We
look
at
the
homicide
rate
this
time
of
year
to
date.
Last
year
we
had
one
which
was
very
low.
This
year
we
just
had
two.
Last
week
we
have
ten
year
to
date,
which
is
too
many.
AQ
Our
fatalities
continue
over
that
same
nine
year
period
to
continue
to
increase
year
and,
as
you
said,
we're
over-represented
in
those
fatalities.
If
you
look
at
the
national
average,
you
look
at
the
South
Carolina
average
in
hovers
just
under
a
third,
and
we
are,
as
you
said,
over
a
nine-year
period
that
we
looked
at
at
approximately
70%
in
in
2016.
It
was
84%
of
our
fatalities.
Were
impairment
related
there's
a
lot.
We
can
do
about
that.
The
one
thing
that
all
these
deaths
have
in
common
is
they're
all
preventable.
Every
one
of
them.
Q
M
C
Has
a
big
difference:
there
is
okay,
I,
just
think
that
that
should
you
would
prefer
that
to
be
shallow
yeah,
it
shall
be
prohibited
and
then
my
next
question
and
it
may
be
more
appropriate
for
the
resolution,
but
I'll
ask
it
now.
I
understand
the
genesis
of
the
bump
stop,
but
the
largest
mass
murder
of
African
Americans
in
recent
history.
C
Q
God
answer
that
for
you
it
when
we
were
presented
with
this,
the
ordinance
sounded
more
like
a
resolution
than
an
ordinance,
and
so
the
committee
voted
to
separate
the
ordinance
and
create
this
resolution.
We
did
make
a
reference
to
the
mother,
Emanuel
shooting
in
the
initial
ordinance
and
I
think
a
lot
of
the
discussion
we
had.
It
was
a
more
of
a
sensitivity
because
the
bump-start
device
was
not
used
and
that
massacre-
and
we
did
not
want
to
cheapen
this
in
honor
of
those
folks
because
it
was
not
the
bomb
shot-
was
not
used.
Q
C
Q
AR
AR
Q
Is
well
I
did
not
draft
the
ordinance
is
not
I'm,
not
the
author
of
this
legal
staff.
Draft
hadn't
brought
it
to
our
attention.
In
our
consideration
and
after
discussing
I
said
mentioned
to
councilmember
Gregory,
the
original
ordinance
had
sent
them
more
like
a
resolution,
as
opposed
to
an
ordinance.
Q
So
we
decided
to
take
the
resolution
part
of
it
out
the
Pacific
one,
two
three,
four
five:
six,
whereas
that
you
made
reference
to
regarding
state
law,
we
had
to
be
very
careful
because,
excuse
me,
state
law
does
put
restrictions
on
what
municipalities
can
and
cannot
do
in
addressing
regulations
as
to
firearms.
So
the
bump-start
is
that
there's
an
ATF
opinion
on
this
and
I
can't
remember
the
other
regulation
that
addresses
this.
V
V
AO
Q
A
Q
A
H
Q
A
AP
A
R
I've
got
a
few
points
to
make
about
this.
One
number
one
I
think
it's
a
really
good
document.
I
just
I
have
a
few
questions,
because
I'm
Pro,
Second,
Amendment
and
I
don't
want
to
take
away
from
any
of
the
people
that
use
guns
the
correct
way,
and
especially
in
Charleston
and
in
South
Carolina,
where
so
many
people
hunt
deer
seasons
upon
us.
So
many
people
use
guns
a
correct
way
and
I
do
like
the
mention
of
the
Second
Amendment
as
under
the
first,
the
first
I
guess.
What
is
it
one
of
those
six
things?
R
R
And
that
bothers
me,
because
we
have
so
many
young
people
that
are
abusing
guns
and
so
many
young
people
that
are
killing
each
other
at
the
hands
of
a
gun
illegally.
And
so
for
me,
even
if
it's
just
a
one-line
sentence
that
we're
going
to
work
to
improve
education
in
our
youth
of
how
to
handle
guns
and
how
to
do
it.
Appropriately
and
legally.
I'd
like
to
see
that
in
here
we
get
that
in
there.
Then
you
have
my
1,000%
support
sounds.
C
C
V
A
C
V
C
Q
That's
good
I
accept
out
of
Emmet
all
right
mr.
Boehner,
by
making
a
few
comments
about
on
this
resolution.
So
we
pass
earlier
this
memorandum
to
allow
the
Thomson
Police
Department
to
be
engaged
and
to
participate
in
the
volunteer
on
task
force.
I
served
as
an
Assistant
United
States
Attorney
for
ten
years
and
I
was
one
of
the
prosecuting
attorneys
handling
at
the
federal
level
filing
crime
individuals.
Q
So,
at
the
time
that
we
were
doing
this,
we
went
to
the
various
agencies-
North
Charleston,
severe
Charleston,
Mount,
Pleasant,
Charleston
County,
to
identify
individuals
who
had
a
record
and
had
a
history
of
violence
within
our
community.
One
of
the
tools
that
we
used
to
address
those
individuals
was
a
federal
ordinance
of
a
felon
being
the
possession
of
a
firearm.
Q
This
is
what
the
man
was
talking
about
a
few
moments
ago,
so
that
federal
law
provided
an
enhancements
based
upon
that
person's
criminal
record,
and
sometimes
the
number
of
guns
are
the
type
of
guns
that
they
possessed
and
the
penalties
were
severe
and
because
in
the
federal
system,
there's
no
parole.
So
if
a
person's
got
a
ten
year
sentence,
they
serve
85%
of
that
10-year
sentence
and
the
idea
behind
that
was
to
just
make
sure
that
we
got
the
bad
guys
off
the
street
and
for
simply
a
satisfies
of
having
a
gun
on
their
possession.
Q
Q
Those
cases
ago
to
the
federal
level
and
the
federal
government.
The
federal
prosecutor's
office
declined
to
prosecute
those
cases,
so
we're
back
to
square
one.
The
purpose
of
this
resolution
is
to
make
it
aware
to
our
Charleston
delegation
into
our
state
legislators.
We
have
an
issue
that
we
can
address
on
a
state
level,
the
same
way
that
the
federal
government
addresses
us
on
a
federal
level,
that
is,
people
who
should
not
be
carrying
guns.
Q
The
resolution
is
to
really
bring
to
light
that
we
have
things
that
we
can
do
that,
we're
not
doing
on
the
state
level
we're
prohibited
on
on
city
government
to
do
anything
more
forceful.
But
here
we
have
an
opportunity
to
just
make
sure
that
this
is
well
known
and
to
draw
the
attention
that
needs
to
draw
to
our
legislators.
This
stop
putting
some
teeth
in
to
do
some
of
these
laws
and
that's
the
protest
move.
The
purpose
Mohandas
resolution
thank.
A
AQ
Thank
you
just
to
add
to
what
councilmember
Shaheen
is
to
shared.
This
is
really
a
petition.
That's
all
it
is.
We
don't
have
the
authority
to
tell
Colombia
and
and
our
delegation
exactly
what
to
do,
how
to
do
it,
but
I
think
it's
a
message
that
we're
saying
we're
recognizing
this
as
an
important
topic,
that's
affecting
our
city,
there's
a
few
things.
I
just
want
to
briefly
touch
on
one.
The
goal
of
this
simply,
in
my
opinion,
is
to
save
lives.
That's
our
goal.
We're
people
are
dying.
AQ
I,
just
as
I'm
sitting
here
a
few
minutes
ago
got
a
text
for
shooting
that
we
got
West
Ashley
somebody's
on
their
way
to
MSUM.
Uic
I
get
these
Texas
almost
daily.
If
we
didn't
have
such
good
medical
care
in
this
community,
we
didn't
have
such
great
EMS
folks.
We
didn't
have
such
great
proximity
to
our
hospitals.
Our
homicide
rate
would
be
triple,
so
the
ten
is
actually
very
underrepresented
of
of
the
problem
that
we
have
here
in
the
city.
AQ
It
is
clearly
stated
in
here,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
reiterate
that
we
respect
and
encourage
safe
gun
practices
and,
in
particular,
honor
the
Second
Amendment,
the
Constitution
people's
right
to
bear
arms
I
have
guns
in
my
home.
I
will
always
have
guns
in
my
home.
It's
part
of
my
profession.
It's
part
of
my
identity.
AQ
It's
part
of
just
who
I
am
I,
am
not
anti-gun,
but
when
I
see
kids,
15
and
17
years
old,
laying
on
the
ground
dead
from
gunshot
wounds,
all
of
them
went
to
West
Ashley
high
school
I
see
us
arrest
in
a
17
year
old
who's
carrying
a
gun
who
shot
and
killed.
Somebody
else,
I
see
them
all
carrying
guns
on
the
playground
and
they
have
no
hesitation
to
use
them.
AQ
I
see
one
of
the
guns
that
was
used
in
that
same
homicide
was
stolen
from
a
vehicle
that
was
unlocked
in
and
one
of
the
kids
that
was
arrested
for
this
homicide
was
arrested
in
May
of
this
year
for
unlawful
possession
of
a
handgun.
So
my
analogy
earlier
was
it's
okay
to
drink
I
love
having
a
cold
beer,
but
it's
important
that
we
do
it
responsibly.
AQ
AQ
To
me,
it's
bizarre
that
we
have
that
many
guns
that
are
taken
from
unlocked
vehicles
and
we're
not
talking
about
it
and
doing
something
about
it.
I
get
angry
when
I
go
and
I
see
the
parents
of
these
kids
that
are
getting
killed
because
we
do
we
talk
to
them
and
we
look
at
them
in
the
eyes
and
every
one
of
them
we
know
is
preventable.
AQ
So
we've
kind
of
I
think
put
a
face
on
this
in
terms
of
what's
actually
occurred
and
what
continues
to
occur
and
I
would
just
say
again:
I
just
got
a
page
about
a
shooting
that
occurred.
Person
was
shot
multiple
times.
We've
had
people
who
have
been
shot
in
the
head.
It's
happened
multiple
occasions
where
they
did
not
die.
We
had
somebody
who
was
shot
seven
times
they
survived,
they
did
not
die
that
wasn't
a
homicide.
AQ
This
is
not
some
hypothetical
thing
and
if
you
look
at
a
lot
of
the
neighborhoods
that
are
disproportionately
affected
by
these
guns
and
these
shootings
to
me,
it's
important
that
we
recognize
that
and
do
something
about
it
and
I
appreciate
that
the
council
and
the
mayor
of
taking
us
seriously.
It's
a
very
difficult
issue,
particularly
here,
to
do
something
about
it.
But
at
least
the
petition
I
think
sends
a
good
message.
Thank.
AR
H
AR
AR
If
you
have
a
gun,
stolen,
I,
don't
know
well
that
just
then
people
don't
report
that
the
cuts
are
stolen,
I,
don't
know
what
they
do
or
they
start
lying,
but
I
mean
there's,
there's
cause
and
effect
here
and
and,
as
you
said,
this
is
just
a
kind
of
a
sense
of
you
know.
I
we
ought
to
close
that
loophole.
We
just
get
behind
closing
that
there's
all
kinds
of
things
we
can
do
here
that
we
can
advocate
for,
but
this
is
not
advocating
for
anything.
This
is
just
making
us
feel
good.
I.
Think.
AQ
I
will
say
one
of
the
things
the
mayor
alluded
to,
and
one
of
the
things
that
councilmember
seat
alluded
to.
I
will
tell
you
that
we
have
it's
not
feel-good
issue.
We
have
people
in
our
community,
thereby
deficit
and,
by
definition,
prohibited
violent
offenders
who
are
carrying
guns
who
were
arresting
at
one
small
unit.
One
small
team
that
has
made
83
gun
seizures
this
year.
So
far,
year-to-date
I
look
at
those
cases
and
I,
say
and
we're
talking
about
this.
AQ
Every
single
week
we
put
the
pictures
up
on
the
screen
as
a
command
and
we
say
I
Pro
land
probation
in
the
room
I.
My
investigators
I,
have
my
officers,
and
my
fear
is
that
we're
gonna
have
an
officer-involved
shooting
it's
inevitable,
because
we're
dealing
with
these
people
they're
violent
offenders
by
definition,
they're
prohibited
from
carrying
weapons,
we're
arresting
them
and
nothing's
happening
to
them.
But
where
is
that
where's.
AR
H
AR
A
AA
A
G
AR
Say
that
the
thing
that
kind
of
sticks
out
to
me
is
that
when
you
look
at
the
most
violent
cities
around
the
nation,
you
look
in
Chicago,
you
look
at
New
York,
you
look
at
LA,
all
of
them
and
across
the
board
they
have
the
most
stringent
gun,
laws
and
prohibitions
against
everything.
I
mean
they
law
after
law,
after
law,
after
law
and
they're
not
being
enforced
and
they're
not
being
adhered
to
and
their
gun
violence
is
off
the
chart.
I
hope
this
is
not
a
step
in
that
direction.
I
would
agree.
AQ
Q
We're
beholdin
as
it
stands
right
now
on
to
federal
government
to
our
federal
prosecutors,
adopting
these
cases,
otherwise
we're
back
to
square
one,
and
the
chief
has
just
said:
he's
encountered
80-something
of
these
fellows
and
they'd
right
back
on
the
street
again
with
no
consequence,
so
we
don't
have
tea
and
we
want
to
increase.
We
want
to
encourage
our
legislators
to
do
something
where
we
max
out.
We
pass.
The
only
thing
we
can
do
is
a
bump
stock.
Prohibition
will
max
out
on
the
city
level.
Q
We've
got
to
get
our
state
legislators
on
board
with
this
thing,
and
this
this
gives
us
opportunity
to
say
has
a
resolution
that
we
passed
like
four
to
be
passing
Animus
ly
and
we'll
go
Lobby
all
legislators
and
we'll
go
talk
to
the
chairman
of
the
Judiciary
Committee
and
say:
here's
an
opportunity
for
you
to
sort
passes
some
laws
that
make
sense
to
protect
our
community.
That's
all
we
really
want
to
do
with
this
thing
and
it's
more
than
just
a
political
statement.
Q
A
Right,
all
in
favor
of
the
resolution
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
councilmember
moody
I
will
start
tomorrow,
because
I've
been
invited
to
a
meeting
here
in
Charleston
of
the
Republican
leadership
of
the
house
and
they're
meeting
in
Charleston
over
the
next
two
days.
I
will
take
this
resolution
to
them
tomorrow.
AS
AS
We've
been
working
on
this
with
now
three
years
we
have
been
going
to
the
state
legislatures.
We
have
been
going
up
there
to
Columbia
we've
been
talking
to
everyone.
We
possibly
can
they're
the
these
are
the
take-home
messages
gun
violence
is
a
public
health
issue.
We
all
own
it.
It
is
our
responsibility
to
stand
up
first
of
all
to
own
it
and
identify
it
and
then
see
what
we
can
in
a
real
way
in
a
meaningful
way
to
make
them
get
this
under
control.
I'm
a
gun
owner
I'm,
the
second
Amendment
rights.
AS
You
know
we're
not
here
to
debate
that
what
is
going
to
be
effective
in
the
long
term
and
what
has
been
shown
and
I
agree
with
councilmember
moody
and
many
of
others.
The
nuances
of
this
is
where
we
get
totally
lost,
but
there
is
one
thing
that
keeps
coming
back:
it's
background,
checks,
thorough
background
checks,
and
it
goes
right
back
to
the
protecting
the
gun
owners
who
have
every
reason
to
have
their
gun
and
keep
it
safe.
They
have
that
responsibility
to
keep
that
gun
safe
and
to
know
how
to
use
it.
AS
The
background
checks
are
there
to
prevent
people
from
having
guns
who
shouldn't
have
it?
That's
where
the
problem
is,
and
that
has
been
shown
and
I
could
spend
as
long
as
you
wanted
debating
that,
but
there's
a
lot
of
science
that's
been
shown
in
medical
journals
and
so
on.
There's
a
lot
of
interest
in
this,
and
that
is
something
that
you
can't
argue
against.
The
statistics
are
out
there
background
checks,
save
laws,
and
it
goes
right
back
to
chase
point.
What
are
we
here?
Ultimately,
they
do
to
save
lives
and
background
checks,
save
lives.
AS
So
thank
you
all
so
much
I'm
really
proud
of
you
and
then
going
back.
This
is
just
a
resolution,
but
everybody
hears
it.
It's
got
to
start
somewhere
and
it's
a
bottom.
We
certainly
learned
that
the
more
your
legislators
hear
about
this
and
boy
they
heard
about
it
and
they're
going
to
hear
a
lot
more
and
they're
not
going
to
do
a
darn
thing
until
you
say
you
know,
I'm
not
going
to
vote
for
you
unless
you
support
background
checks,
and
you
just
say
that
to
them.
Do
you
support
background
checks?
Yes,
No?
AS
A
J
Just
a
couple
of
quick
comments,
of
course
we
at
the
Ways
and
Means
Committee.
We
had
already
passed
the
budget
items
for
the
planned
change
amendments
or
planned
changes
for
to
2019
healthcare
budget
going
further.
Our
dental
plan
will
change
over
to
united
concordia
vision
will
be
covered
by
IMed.
We
are
changing
our
HR
HHH,
AAS
and
FSA
administration.
J
To
connect
your
care,
we
chose
to
defer
the
stop-loss
agreement,
as
well
as
the
long
term,
life
and
disability
and
short
term
disability
to
be
brought
back
after
our
budget
committee
meeting
there
be
forthcoming,
so
I
will
with
that.
Just
if
there's
any
questions
we
can
answer
them,
but
otherwise
I'll
move
the
adoption
in
that
report.
A
Any
questions
or
discussion
I
would
like
to
share
that.
We
recommended
this
without
any
increase
in
premiums
for
our
employees
on
the
medical
side.
Apparently,
the
dental
side
was
such
that
there's
a
very
small
increase
on
the
dental
premium,
but
not
on
the
medical
side.
So
there's
a
very
minor
adjustment
to
our
employees,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
next.
Our
Committee
on
rec
recreation,
council,
member
Gregory.
C
C
The
first
was
the
Palmetto
Rose
Kids
program,
and
we
did
hair
report
from
our
new
director,
miss
Jordan,
who
has
formed
four
committees
and
a
task
force
in
order
to
come
up
with
some
recommendations
to
this
body
for
changes
of
the
program
of
necessary
Stonyfield.
We
had
extensive
discussion
on
Stoney
feel.
The
first
thing
we
wanted
to
know
was
whether
or
not
the
study
had
been
completed.
The
study
was
completed
and
that
study
was
to
determine
whether
or
not
Stonyfield
could
be
used
at
the
collegiate
level.
Yes,
it
can
at
14
million
dollars.
C
C
We
did
talk
about
the
status
of
the
ongoing
cultural
planning
process
and
that
is
going
smoothly.
We
also
had
a
discussion
from
our
cultural
affairs
on
the
status
of
the
Cannon
Street
Art
Center.
Of
course
that's
going
smoothly,
and
hopefully
that
will
be
opening
before
the
Christmas
time.
We
did
vote
on
the
changes
for
the
Korean
Jones
community
garden
proposal
that
was
presented
also,
the
Daniel
Island
neighborhood
park
number
for
the
drawings
and
plans
were
also
presented
to
the
committee
and
the
committee
voted
in
favor
of
it.
We
talked
about
Ferguson
Village
a
bit.
C
We
did
vote
for
the
bathroom
tonight
and
we
also
had
former
council
member
Kathleen
Wolfson
to
come
in
and
talk
with
us
regarding
the
natatorium
and
the
recreation
committee
committed
to
recommend
to
our
Ways
and
Means
Committee
for
the
next
meeting
to
appropriate
ten
thousand
dollars
toward
the
completion
of
the
due
diligence
with
regard
to
the
natatorium.
As
for
Mrs
T
we're
still
working
on
getting
the
language
to
our
director
of
recreation.
G
Mr.
Gregory
saddened
to
listen
to
of
the
wonderful
conversations
at
the
committee
meeting
last
earlier
in
the
month
and
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
you.
You
mentioned
several
the
things
that
the
recreation
bond
is
designed
to
pay
for,
but
I
I
think
personally,
one
of
the
most
important
items
and
a
minor
cost
by
comparison
is
to
do
a
comprehensive
master
plan.
Yes,.
G
C
A
J
We
had,
we
had
Jason
came
out
last
week
and
met
with
some
residents
who
live
in
and
around
the
area,
to
review
the
plans
and-
and
we
had
discussion
around-
actually
actually
coming
up
with
a
definitive
name.
So
what
we're
going
to
ask
is
that
the
Neighborhood
Association,
in
conjunction
with
the
community
out
there,
put
forward
some
some
recommendations
and
working
with
some
of
the
store
groups
out
on
the
island
to
come
up
with
some
some
names.
We
could
then
that
out
and
then
obviously
bring
the
recreation
committee.
So,
yes,
we
thought
about.
K
A
A
K
You
and
then
on
the
WPA
L.
You
know
we
have
now
what
I
think
a
more
equal
to
split
on
the
green
space.
Money
which
is
5050
versus
70/30
well,
we'd
be
in
a
position
to
be
able
to
totally
compete
for
some
agree,
I
mean
to
know
how
much
money
we
will
need
to
do.
This
part
I
to
compete
with
some
of
the
money
and
request
monies
from
Johnson
County
green
space.
K
Thank
You,
mr.
president,
you
know
the
last
thing
the
natatorium
I
think
we
need
it.
I
know
we
need
to
change
the
name
of
that
to
say
wellness,
not
a
term.
It
would
be
more
than
a
singular
use.
It
would
be
more
of
a
Wellness
Center.
So
if
you
all
would
yes
do
that
going
forward,
I
know
we
and
the
rest
would
be
appreciative.
Okay,
they're.
C
Not
a
problem,
and
mr.
mayor,
you
know
well,
while
we're
at
it,
we
did
have
some
discussion
after
you
left
the
recreation
committee
meeting
regarding
Ferguson
Village
and
in
fact,
I
have
a
meeting
with
them
tomorrow
night,
where
they
want
to
discuss
some
of
the
issues
that
came
up
during
your
visit
and
I.
C
Think
one
of
them
had
to
do
with
a
developing
a
center
out
there,
but
I
would
like
to
talk
to
them
about
perhaps
an
alternative,
because
I
do
think
that
the
Daniel
I
neighborhood
park
and
the
way
that's
done
might
be
pretty
appropriate
if
we
can't
acquire
the
land
that
you
guys
discussed
instead
of
doing
a
doing
a
center.
Perhaps
we
can
really
create
a
beautiful,
passive
Park,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
discuss
that
with
them.
Tomorrow,
night
Council.
M
C
C
AT
You
so
with
for
Fergus
and
village,
we
Colleen
Carlucci
did
pull
up
plat
associated
with
the
property.
The
property
is
about
8
acres,
a
little
bit
more
than
a
acres
I
think
it's
1.6
acres,
hi,
so
most
of
its
wetland.
Nonetheless,
that
does
have
some
passive
park
space
that
could
be
programmed
I.
Think
that
the
the
the
nature
of
the
green,
the
new
Greenbelt
program,
that
property
would
score
highly
in
our
application
process,
just
for
the
preservation
of
the
natural
systems
that
are
there
for
resilience,
sort
of
things.
Okay,
thank.
C
A
K
You
mr.
Mann
I
think
all
will
be
glad
to
know
that
we
had
a
very
good
Public,
Works
meeting,
very
good
presentation
by
his
cabinets
and
her
staff
on
updating
the
drainage
manual
and
I
hope.
We
all
give
her
great
congratulations,
not
realizing
how
many
calls
she
gets
a
day
going
in.
You
know
nine
different
directions
and
she
was
able
to
crank
out
she
and
her
team
able
to
crank
out,
along
with
legal,
op,
date/time
and
so
making
big
progress
on
that,
and
thank
you
again,
mrs.
cabinet's
wherever
you
over
here.
K
We
also
got
some
great
information
I'll.
Let
my
good
friend
left
out
resilient
C
person
mark
left
anyway.
Well,
we
got
some
great
news
for
people
who
have
been
turned
down
on
people,
grants
that
were
awarded
grants
and
if
you
can
go
back
a
couple
of
October's
ago,
we
talked
about
people
being
turned
down
and
appealing
and
appealing-
and
some
of
those
have
come
through.
K
So
that's
good
news
for
some
our
constituents
with
monies
to
be
able
to
move
in
another
direction,
and
then
we
had
an
update
on
our
small
cell
tower
councilman
moody
and
myself
and
Councilman
Chile
a
couple
of
months
ago
went
up
to
Columbia
to
put
an
induction
of
council
lady
Wilson
into
the
Hall
of
Fame
succulent
Hall
of
Fame.
We
visited
the
Strom
Thurmond
Wellness
Center
on
the
University
of
South
Carolina's
campus
in
route
to
that
wellness
in
it
I
saw
a
smallest
sellout.
Were
you
and
I
discussed
it,
though
mr.
K
Muir
small
cell
tower
located
at
it
assembly
and
assembly
in
blossom
Street
in
Columbia,
so
Columbia's
move
and
fault
with
it.
So
I
appreciate
the
update
on
it.
Our
legal
has
come
up
with
the
first
ring
and
will
be
presented
in
front
of
us
on
an
ordinance
for
fiber
optics
and
broadband
of
the
first
phase.
K
Anyway,
it
was
recently
given
to
some
of
the
people
in
that
industry
and
I
understand
that
he
mister
metric
that
Mitchell
came
up
and
said
it
they're,
reviewing
it
and
certainly
they'll
communicate
with
our
people,
so
we're
gonna,
recommend
first
reading
and
I
know
legal
will
get
together
with
industry
and
vet
off
whatever
differences
needed
before
the
second
reading.
So
we
had
a
very,
very
good
meeting
and
Councilman
Griffin
I
believe
we
funded
one
of
the
first
phase
of
the
improvements
over
in
the
church,
Creek
drainage
basins,
and
you
may
want
to
show
them
there.
R
This
would
be
a
good
moment
to
go
ahead
and
say
that
I'm
gonna
strike
my
request
down
under
miscellaneous
business
because
we
went
ahead
and
covered.
It
drove
it
worse
to
cover
it
now.
But
you
know
a
lot
of
time
and
efforts
been
put
into
the
church,
Creek
drainage
study
and
all
those
public
comment
periods
and
all
those
meetings,
and
now,
after
all
of
that,
we're
finally
looking
to
fund
the
first
project
on
that
list,
and
we
had
a
great
presentation
from
Bob
Horner
about
what
that
project
would
look
like
we
heard
from
Laura
about.
R
Hopefully
we
should
be
able
to
see
some
sort
of
contract
in
place
by
the
next
meeting.
Laura
thank
right,
so
we'll
have
an
opportunity
in
the
next
couple
weeks
to
finally
vote
on
a
project
over
there
and
it's
gonna
be
a
really
a
great
project
to
be
the
first
one,
because
it's
the
cheapest
one
out
of
the
priority
list,
it's
right
in
the
middle.
So
it's
a
good
strong
priority.
R
It's
gonna
help
out
a
lot
of
people
in
a
neighborhood
that
has
been
flooded
several
times
and
Hickory
Farms
in
it,
and
it
shows
that
you
know
we're
not
just
talking
or
action
and
that's
important.
So
looking
forward
to
that
I
think
y'all
for
your
support
on
that
and
look
forward
to
moving
forward
to
making
Charleston
a
better
place
to
live.
You.
K
C
A
AR
To
kind
of
a
clarification
when
I
got
all
of
this
stuff,
I
was
going
to
vote
or
ask
to
this
be
deferred.
This
franchise
agreement
on
the
optic
fiber
optics,
just
out
of
curiosity
I
mean
with
that
when
I
started.
Reading
that
it's
the
whole
thing
is
kind
of
blank,
I
mean
there's
no
numbers
filled
in
there's:
no
fees,
there's
no,
nothing.
It
made
it
kind
of
hard.
Is
that
I
mean?
Is
that
kind
of
what
we
should
expect,
or
should
we
expect?
AR
AU
Apologize
for
the
confusion.
This
is
a
template,
and
so
with
you
with
your
approval,
this
would
be
the
standard
agreement
that
we
would
ask
all
areas
to
sign
onto
so,
for
example,
if
it's
18,
T
18
T's
name
would
go
in
the
blank
as
far
as
the
feed
it's
a
statutory
fee
set
by
the
state,
it's
a
thousand
dollars
it's
based
on
population,
so
the
blanks
that
you
see
are
really
relative
to
the
particular
company
who's
going
to
enter
into
the
franchise
agreement.
AU
AR
AU
A
O
O
You
talked
to
us
about
pitchforks,
some
other
things,
so
we
will
get
anyone
who
wants
a
copy
of
that
presentation
out
there
there's
no
action
needed.
You
may
have
noticed
two
Fridays
ago
we
had
a
very
strange
meteorological
event
in
Charleston,
it
rained
motor
scooters
on
the
city
of
Charleston
and
they
were
all
over
the
place.
So
we
have
amended
our
current
ordinance
to
for
the
next
year.
O
O
So
then
it
turns
over
the
maintenance
to
us,
I
and
others
in
the
committee
express
their
skepticism
about
the
long-term
viability
of
program,
basically
saying
that
if
the
state
wants
to
do
it,
it's
got
to
be
good
for
them
and
for
us
and
I
think
we
agreed
about
that.
However,
there
is
a
pilot
program
where
we're
going
to
suggest
a
few
roadways
in
the
city
be
put
under
it
to
see
how
it
works.
There's
about
five
miles
worth
of
roads
that
are
on
that
program.
It's
in
your
packet,
some
on
some
off
the
peninsula.
Mr.
O
Benjamin
predicted
that
probably
maybe
a
couple
three
of
those
would
actually
be
accepted,
probably
not
100%.
We
just
don't
know
so.
The
committee
voted
unanimously
to
Ford
the
list
to
the
SC
d-o-t,
to
see
where
we
fit
into
the
pilot
program.
Is
that
fair
assessment
of
what
we
did
that
was
also
voted
on
unanimously
and
I
would
ask
for
adoption
type.
Q
Question
mr.
mayor
no
saying
when
we,
when
we
go
into
this
buyback
program,
so
and
I
saw
the
list
that
you
had
on
here,
so
these
roads
now
all
wild
or
designated
the
state
roads,
are
they
owned
by
the
city
and
meaning
by
that
we've
got
control
over
it
when
it
comes
to
things
such
as
speed,
mops
and
short.
O
K
O
Me
comment
on
that.
Actually,
it
brings
up
a
very
good
point
because,
as
the
county
gave
its
presentation
else
about
the
expenditure
of
half
cent
sales
tax
monies
on
road
projects
in
the
city
that
are
sponsored
by
the
county
and
and
the
repeating
monies
that
are
spent
on
certain
types
of
projects
like
bike
ped
drainage
by
the
way
is
a
very
small
number
comparative
to
other
projects.
O
That's
a
half
a
million
dollars
a
year,
so
so
be
a
little
bit
careful
about
that,
because
the
the
pilot
program
from
the
state
is
basically
a
maintenance
program,
and
if
we
accept
that
remote
back,
it
doesn't
come
with
dollars
on
top
of
it,
for
both
paving
and
for
drainage
projects.
Just
paving.
So
we've
just
got
to
see
how
that
all
interacts
and
we'll
have
to
get
with
your
Committee
on
Public
Works
and
see
how
that
all
goes.
But
we
need
to
get
with
the
county
to
make
sure
as
they
think
forward.
O
O
That
was
actually
stated
in
our
meeting
today,
so
we
get
that
we're
not
committing
to
anything
other
than
seeing
what
the
state
will
actually
come
up
with
come
back
to
us
with,
and
it
leaves
us
in
a
position
to
negotiate
and
we'll
say
out
on
this.
Another
example
is
there's
one
of
the
roads
that
we
own
about
nine-tenths
of
it
and
there's
about
567
feet.
We
don't
so
that's
sort
of
a
natural
just
to
put
it
all
in
one
package,
others
are,
others
are
referenced
in
st.
Philip's
street.
O
J
V
K
AR
AR
V
AR
AR
A
V
AR
J
U
B
B
U
M
J
B
M
A
AP
Was
actually
from
the
planning
department,
what
it
is
is
it
allows
the
city
to
adopt,
allows
the
city
to
adopt
some
some
an
ordinance
to
provide
provisions
when
a
short-term
rental
does
not
pay
accommodations
taxes
on
the
renting
of
their
short-term
rental.
It
also
allows
us
to
work
with
the
South
Carolina
Department
of
Revenue
to
exchange
information
and
instances
where
we
have
a
property
owner
who
does
not
pay
their
accommodations
taxes
on
their
short
term
rental.
K
I'm
fine
with
that
I
just
won
the
you
know.
We
had
some
denims
well
that
our
staff
was
supposed
to
be
working
on
with
the
short-term
rental
aspect.
I
think
I
was
about
three
months
ago
any
update
on
where
we
are
that
I
thought
those
would
be
in
front
of
us
before
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
winner
to
fit
customer.
AV
AV
AV
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
this
is
we
just
have
three
slides
here.
This
is
an
an
imposed
amendment
to
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
special
exception
for
accommodations.
You
all
know
the
accommodations
overlay
map.
This
is
a
map
of
the
peninsula,
which
shows
in
gray
the
parcels
which
are
within
the
accommodations
overlay.
That
means
that
they
are
eligible
to
become
an
accommodations
use
which
is
to
be
occupied
by
fewer
than
30
days.
That
would
include
hotels,
short-term,
rentals,
any
other
type
of
accommodation
juice.
As
shown
here
on
this
map.
AV
There
are,
of
course,
other
properties
that
are
zoned
for
combinations
off
of
the
peninsula.
This
is
the
area
of
the,
however,
that
we're
most
concerned
with,
and
the
amendment
here,
which
is
slightly
off
off
the
page,
is
designed
to
do
some
basic
things.
The
first
is
to
prevent
over
concentration
of
hotels
on
the
peninsula
Preserve
office
spaces.
This
has
an
amendment
which
prevents
the
displacement
of
offices,
and
it
would
give
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
discretion
to,
for
example,
condition
and
approval.
The
developer
would
have
to
replace
the
office
space
somewhere
else.
AV
If
it
were
to
be
this
place,
we
were
very
concerned
about
the
loss
of
office
buildings
in
our
city
center.
It
protects
retail
spaces
on
the
main
retail
street,
for
example,
on
King
Street,
we've
seen
some
recent
projects
that
have
converted
the
ground
levels
of
the
buildings
from
retail
into
and
lobbies
for
hotels,
and
you
feel
like
that's
very
undesirable,
especially
in
a
time
when
retail
is
very
challenged
around
the
country.
AV
We
want
to
make
sure
that
our
retail
streets
are
as
good
as
they
can
be,
so
it
prevents
the
displacement
of
a
former
retail
space
to
turn
it
into
a
hotel
lobby,
and
the
last
thing
that
does
is
it
works
to
keep
affordable
housing
and
it
does
that
by
enabling
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
to
require
that
a
developer
rebuild
dwelling
units
if
they
are
displaced
from
a
site.
Now
they
have
that
power
now
and
in
a
case
in
Upper
Meeting
Street.
Recently,
the
159
dwelling
units
were
demolished
to
make
way
for
a
hotel.
AV
However,
the
board
only
had
the
power
to
require
the
replacement
of
those
units.
These
amendments
allow
the
board
to
consider
the
price
at
which
the
units
were
rented
or
sold
and
require
that
a
developer
rebuild
affordable
units
as
their
replacement
if
they
were
affordable
before
so.
It's
an
it's
a
special,
affordable
housing
provision
that
we
think
is
very
important,
and
the
final
thing
I'm
gonna
show
is
just
this
graph,
which
we've
updated
recently.
AV
This
is
the
chart
showing
the
total
hotel
rooms
in
the
city
of
Charleston
starts
in
1980
when
we
had
over
1,000
existing
all
the
way
over.
Here
you
can
see
the
laser
all
the
way
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen
is
is
1980
and
then
the
vertical
bar
all
the
way.
Almost
all
the
way
on
the
right
is
today
2018,
where
we
have
almost
5000
hotel
rooms
by
these.
Are
these
have
been
fine
toothcomb
by
my
very
capable
staff?
AV
The
to
the
right
of
the
graph
shows
our
projection
of
hotel
rooms,
all
of
those
are
approved
and
they
have
in
hand
a
special
exception
from
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals.
They
have
the
right
to
build
a
hotel.
We
believe
that
all
of
them
will
be
built
and
those
are
our
projections
as
to
when
they
will
come
online.
So
you
know
we
in
tracking
this.
AV
So
we
looked
at
the
number
of
hotel
rooms
in
relation
to
the
number
of
residents
in
the
city
center
and
we
looked
the
San
Francisco
and
Quebec
City
Savannah
and
New
Orleans.
You
know
comparable
type
cities
that
have
historic
centers
and
we
were
about
in
the
middle.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
didn't
in
fact
slip
into
a
territory
that
were
we
had.
AV
You
know
more
tourist
uses
than
we
did
residential
uses
in
our
city
center,
and
that
was
the
reason
we
were
looking
at
that
matter
of
how
many
hotel
rooms
we
had
in
relationship
to
residences.
So,
in
our
opinion,
we
were
in
the
middle,
but
we
didn't
really
wanna
veer
further
on
down
the
tourist
path
city.
Is
this.
AV
Would
not
be
a
moratorium
on
hotels.
This
empowers
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals,
with
special
tools
that
would
help
to
maintain
the
balance
of
uses.
So,
for
example,
if
affordable
housing
is
displaced,
the
board
could
say
build
it
back
over
here.
If
ret,
if
an
office
is
displaced,
the
board
could
say
bill
offices
in
this
location.
So
it's
not
something
that
it
doesn't
stop
hotels.
It
gives
the
board
tools
to
maintain
the
balance
of
uses.
AV
There
have
been
two
changes
that
have
been
made,
of
which
this
council
adopted.
The
first
is
that
we
made
you,
you
all
adopted
a
provision
to
allow
hotels
to
to
require
hotels
to
account
for
how
their
employees
get
to
work.
So
it
means
they
either
have
to
put
the
parking
on
their
lot
or
they
have
to
show
us
how
they're
gonna
do
it?
AV
That's
the
first
thing
and
the
second
thing
is
we
accounted
for
how
hotels
manage
their
valet
is
their
pickup
drop-offs,
because
we
found
that
sometimes
like
on
a
Friday
afternoon,
they'll
spill
into
traffic
and
cause
a
congestion
problem.
So
this
council
did
adopt
those
two
transportation
related
provisions.
They
are
not
included
in
this.
AV
AR
Yeah
mr.
Lindsey,
the
thing
that
bothers
me
a
little
bit
about
this
is
the
hundred
and
fifty
nine
units
that
you
were
talking
about
that
were
raised
to
build
back
159
and
they're
all
that
market
and
they're
in
the
hotel
was
going
on
there
also.
But
you
know
when
those
things
were
built,
probably
30
or
40
years
ago.
AR
Whatever
I
mean
they
were
built
a
long
time
ago
and
they
were
never
affordable,
they
were
always
market
rate
and
as
time
passed
and
the
owner
ignored
a
lot
of
repairs
and
upgrading
and
stuff
like
that,
I
mean
there
was
on
a
slow,
dist
decline.
So
by
virtue
of
the
economy
and
the
demolition,
if
you
will
by
neglect
they
became
affordable,
so
I'm
kind
of
trying
to
question
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
perpetuate
slums
or
something,
but
you
know
say:
okay.
AR
Well,
we
can't
tear
those
down,
so
they
just
just
become
slumps,
so
I
mean
evidently
I
mean
it
was
in
the
ownership
of
that
thing.
The
current
owner
bought
him
and
is
going
to
build
back
market
I
mean
really
top
notch
market
great
stuff.
But
these
were
not
really
built
as
affordable
housing.
They
were
always
market
rate
is
just
that
they
were,
they
weren't
maintained,
and
so
they
became
problem
places,
not
whether
you
have
for
response
to
that
or
not
but
I'd.
Be
it
there
how
you.
AV
AV
J
J
Right
so
I
I
got
I,
heard
the
folks
from
the
Preservation
Society
tonight
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
all
heard
from
them
at
all
about
this
they've
had
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in
I
think
this
is
what
she
was
referring
to
in
her
comments
are
very
brief.
Obviously,
I
also
got
a
couple
of
texts
actually
this
evening,
just
coming
in
from
several
neighborhoods
who
have
a
concern
with
the
changes
folks
from
downtown
who
who
believe
that
their
neighborhood
is
gonna,
be
impacted
by
this
I.
J
Don't
know
if
there
is
any
specific
need
for
us
to
from
a
timing
standpoint
to
kind
of
push
forward,
but
if
there's
not
if
it,
if
it
was
the
will
of
the
council,
I
think
it'd
probably
be
good
that
we
just
defer
the
item.
Not
that
I,
don't
really
read
it.
I,
don't
really
necessarily
mean
feels
like
it's
actually
increasing
the
stringent.
J
You
know
nature
in
which
people
will
get
an
exception
to
have
an
accommodations
overlay,
but
I
would
like
to
hear
from
these
groups
to
find
out
what
they
see
in
it
that
maybe
we
haven't
because
they've,
obviously,
maybe
they've
got
some
concern.
I
think
would
be
appropriate
so
so
with
that,
unless
there's
that
there's
a
some
specific
overwhelming
need
need
or
reason
that
we
need
to
push
forward
with
the
first
reading
tonight.
I
would
like
to
defer
this
and
at
least
get
a
couple
weeks
to
have
a
conversation.
M
O
Not
only
just
say,
I
mean
I'll
support
that
grudgingly,
but
I
think
we
need
more
than
two
weeks.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
big
changes
in
here.
I've
gone
through
it
very
closely,
not
taught
the
Preservation
Society
you
heard
them
come
in.
They
did
there
they're
the
biggest
watchdog
group
on
the
hotels
in
the
wall
and
they
want
it
deferred.
We
got
to
give
some
time
to
this.
One.
J
Yeah
and
and
I
say
two
weeks,
I
mean
I,
that
that
said,
maybe
being
a
little
hopeful
that
we
can
get
organized
in
those
conversations,
but
but
certainly
that
we
shouldn't
bring
it
forward
until
I've
been
able
to
have
the
appropriate
conversations.
So
it
was
two
weeks
great
if
it's
not
and
you
know,
but
about.
Let's
all
move
forward.
S
A
K
Thank
You
Sammy
I'm
almost
supposed
to
defer,
but
I
would
kind
of
throw
caution
else.
We
have
a
lot
of
lawyers
in
the
room,
but
on
the
beach
company
issue,
and
we
went
to
court
judge
Nicholson
said
that
the
final
arbiter
of
Zoning
is
City
Council
and
that
processor
obviously
is
without
Planning
Commission
and
then
Council.
This
kind
of
sounds
like
we're
kind
of
pushing
off
that
zoning
uses
to
the
BCA
I,
actually
think.
K
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
have
to
make
the
hard
choices
and
the
Planning
Commission,
obviously
with
their
input
and
City
Council,
with
the
final
vote
to
rezone
properties
on
this
owned
in
the
city
of
Charleston,
so
I
mean
I,
wouldn't
want
to
run
it.
You
know
when
you
run
into
something
like
that
you
go
to
the
BCA.
If
there's
a
big
difference,
we
have
to
go
to
court.
K
U
U
Only
with
all
of
the
questions
answered,
we
got
one
slide
this
time
we
had
least
1012
last
time,
two
of
our
primary
voices
that
day
are
missing
tonight
so
which
is
another
reason
we
need
to
defer,
but
I'm,
just
thinking
that
as
councilmember
Griffin
said,
he
wasn't
there.
But
if
you
show
us
what
was
and
what
is,
and
what
differences
are
you
may
be
may
well
come
up
with
a
pretty
good
result.
I
mean
that
would
be
one
this,
because
we
called
it
a
moratorium
back
then
we're
just
not
calling
like
that.
U
AV
If
these
were
in
place-
and
those
are
the
adjustments
that
you
see
so
it's
variations
in
lot.
Furniture
with
setback,
things
of
that
nature.
But
in
any
case
it
will
lighten
the
burden
for
affordable
housing
projects
to
go
to
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
and
in
fact,
the
ones
that
we
analyzed.
They
would
all
not
require
that
that
special
exception
in
this
case
or
variances
or
whatever
was
needed.
AV
So
it's
based
on
an
analysis
of
what
the
Affordable
Housing
projects
had
to
go
through
to
obtain
their
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
variances,
and
it
basically
involves
changes
to
all
of
the
SR
districts
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
districts
for
lot
frontage,
as
well
as
setback
requirement
and
lot
coverage.
So
those
variables
would
ease
the
burden
for
the
BCA
process
for
affordable
housing
projects
only
not
for
all
housing.
Just
report
house.
AV
There's
depends
on
the
district
and
there's
a
chart
descend
upon
that
at
the
end
of
this.
The
last
page
and
35
is,
though,
in
the
minimum,
which
was
the
specific
one
that
was
requested.
There
are
some
where
it
is
larger,
40
or
45,
as
was
as
was
discussed
earlier
for
sr1
sr2
districts.
It's
not
quite
as
narrow.
The.
Q
AV
The
specific
request
that
they
were
making
was
to
not
vary
from
the
historic
50
by
100.
Lot:
pattern
that
exists
in
that
area
and
in
what
you
have
before
you.
It
would
allow
for
sr1
sr2
to
be
subdivided
to
a
smaller
number
than
that
forty
or
forty-five
feet
respectively.
So
it
is
lower,
as
you
know,
a
smaller
frontage
than
the
specific
request
of
keeping
it
at
50.
However,
I
will
say
this
that
it
would
be
unusual
for
a
50-foot
lot
to
be
subdivided
to
forty
feet.
AV
45
feet
right,
so
so
that
that
specific
scenario
is
unlikely
to
occur.
You
may
have
a
larger
parcel
that
would
be
subdivided
down
into
40
or
45
feet,
but
those
don't
really
exist
very
often
in
neighborhoods
a
pre-established
pattern.
So
we
hear
their
concern.
Just
does
not
do
exactly
what
was
requested
by
this
residence.
However,
the
specific
scenario
of
subdividing
a
50
foot
to
a
40
foot
lot
would
be
unlikely
to
occur
if
that
makes
sense.
Okay,.
Q
AV
Correct
now
let's
say
you
had
a
lot
that
was
200
feet
long
or
you
could
subdivide
that
down
into
individual
Lots.
That
would
be
40
feet
in
width,
for
example,
if
you
were
in
an
sr1
district,
but
you
wouldn't,
if
you
had
a
pre-established
lot
pattern,
which
is
what
you
have
in
a
neighborhood
like
Ashley,
the
lower
Maryville,
you
wouldn't
take
a
50
foot
and
take
it
down
to
a
40.
So
the
opportunity
to
do
that
to
obtain
Lots
that
are
very
small
in
those
pre-existing
historic
neighborhoods
is
minimal.
AV
However,
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out.
A
neighborhood
like
Rosemont
is
a
neighborhood
that
would
specifically
benefit
from
from
the
snape
Rosemont
has
to
come
through
a
number
of
bza
variances
for
lot
coverage
or
lot
front,
and
they
would
not
have
to
do
that
under
these
amendments.
These
are
minor
changes
to
the
zoning
ordinance
that
allow
this
projects
to
go
through
without
a
variance
because.
Q
There
may
be
and
I'm
just
trying
to
think
in
the
in
the
Maryville
Asheville
area.
There
are
just
based
on
memory
that
I
know
there's
at
least
one
parcel.
That's
on
the
college,
I
think
Jacob
Street.
Perhaps
that
would
fit
into
the
ability
to
be
subdivided
into
40
foot,
45
foot
Lots
aside
from
that
large
lawn
I'm
I'm,
just
trying
to
visualize
what
else
is
in
the
Maryville
Asheville
area
that
it
would
could
fall
into
that
potential,
because
the
concerns
of
these
folks
have
is
a
genuine
concern.
Q
AV
Looked
at
that
specific
issue
and
in
my
opinion
the
answer
is
no,
because
you
really
can't
pass
a
city
wide,
you
know
change
to
the
ordinance
and
then
exempt
a
specific
area
you
could
create.
Conversely,
you
could
create
an
overlay
that
just
applies
to
that
one
place,
but
you
wouldn't
really
be
able.
We
wouldn't
really
be
able
to
exclude
one
specific
area
from
this
citywide
change.
So,
in
my
opinion,
the
answer
to
that
would
be
no.
F
G
I
was
surprised
to
hear
you
know
well-respected
residents
of
Ashley's
up
so
curious
with
came
up
with
the
idea
that
they
should
be
concerned
about
this.
Are
you
saying
that
three
owners
could
not
or
four
owners
could
not
sell
their
property
to
a
consolidating
developer
and
then
see
more
houses
built
where
there,
where
there
had
been
three
or
four
dot.
AV
AV
I
think
that
basic
answers
Gianna
tells
us
if
it's
affordable
or
not,
but
but
she
does
have
specific
criteria
that
determine
whether
something
is
affordable
or
is
not
affordable,
and
this
is
in
this
mayor's.
You
know
we
want
to
as
the
Community
Development
Committee
enabled
us
to
do.
We
want
to
bring
forward
a
more
sweeping
set
of
rules
that
dues
tiers
of
prioritization.
So
if
you
come
up
with
a
project,
that's
100
percent,
affordable,
single-family,
detached
house,
you
get
the
highest
level
of
prioritization
and
that's
a
future
project
to
do
that.
AV
G
AW
So
mayor
and
council,
just
on
that
note,
we
actually
prepare
written
correspondence
after
the
income
ranges.
The
cost
of
the
housing,
the
rents
of
the
housing
are
all
confirmed
with
whomever
the
development
entity
is,
and
usually
we're
entering
into
something
written
agreement
with
them
as
well,
whether
they're,
whether
we're
providing
funds
or
they're
doing
it
on
their
own
and
then
we
in
turn-
and
it
usually
is
directed
to
lis
Batchelder
such
that
the
zoning
is
appropriate
correspondence
to
the
planning
team
as
evidence
that
it
meets
the
criteria
which
is
outlined
in
that
document.
K
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
one
big
important
part
to
this:
is
you
only
qualify
for
this?
If
you
do
in
affordable
housing
and
that's
the
part
I've
gone
to
the
Neighborhood,
Association
I've
explained
that
and
god
bless
them,
but
and
and
they're
right,
miss
Taff
laid
out
a
Schlegel
at
fifty
five
hundred
Lots
fifty
foot
wide
a
hundred
and
I
would
say
about
90%
of
Ashley
villas
that
way.
Okay,
we're
doing
this
for
the
whole
city
of
Charleston,
not
just
Ashley,
go
marry
me
later.
K
Okay,
I
saw
in
the
paper
today
where
they
created
I
mean
somebody
estimated
that
we
need
twenty
six
thousand.
Some
are
between.
Twenty-Six
thousand
and
twenty
seven
thousand
lots
to
be
created
over
the
next
five
years.
When
I
read
that
and
I
read
that
article
to
see
how
many
Lots
gonna
be
affordable,
wasn't
even
in
the
article
they
don't
even
plan.
M
K
The
next
five
years
to
create
twenty
out
of
that
twenty
seven
thousand,
almost
Lots,
affordable,
Maryville
and
Asheville,
were
laid
out
from
inception
to
be
affordable.
What
are
we
doing
to
do
that
going
forward
as
we
revitalize
West
Ashley?
A
lot
of
affordability
has
the
potential
to
be
created
by
infill.
K
We
have
to.
We
have
to
make
structural
changes
to
enable
our
to
enable
affordable
housing
to
be
built
by
reducing
the
cost
of
land
councilman
white.
This
was
in
2015.
Our
planning
department
came
to
us
to
reduce
the
parking
requirement
for
apartments
from
1.5
unit
to
one
they
knew
it
out
with
only
ones
that
voted
against.
It
would
has.
Let's
look
at
that.
Three
years
later,
all
has
done
was
increased
to
dirt
the
price
of
the
dirt
on
the
peninsula.
K
When
we
used
to
have
a
hundred.
If
you
built
a
hundred
unit,
you
have
to
create
150
off-street
parking
spaces.
We
reduced
that
5/3,
everybody
else,
gonna
be
riding
bicycles
down
to
a
hundred
and
what
has
happened?
Ten
storeys
eight
stories,
and
you
know
what
how
much
of
it
is
gonna
be
affordable
for
many
of
people
working
in
this
room.
The
people
that
serve
this
city
aren't
gonna,
be
able
to
afford
to
live
in
this
city
and
particularly
on
this
peninsula.
We
have
to
make
structural
changes.
K
What
are
we
going
to
bring
down
the
cost
of
the
land,
which
is
the
major
factor
in
creating
a
house
III
added
that
one
statistic
I
ended
up.
Mr.
Lindsey
was
we
have
I,
think
four
council
members
and
councilmen
seeking
is
one
of
them
that
have
houses
right
now
on
this
peninsula
that
don't
have
50
foot
fronts
and
they
have
off
street
parking.
We
can't
create
that
on
James
Island.
We
can't
create
that
Wesley.
K
We
can't
create
that
on
the
Upper
Peninsula
I
think
we
should
have
a
mechanism
by
which
we
do
that
and
incentivize
the
private
sector
if
they
do
affordable
house
and
they
can
reduce
the
land
cost
by
getting
more
units.
I'm
not
saying
they
gonna
be
35
foot
on
all
of
them.
But
right
now,
if
I
wanted
to
create
a
49
foot
frontage
lot,
I
got
to
go,
get
a
variance
if
I
want
to
do.
45
I
have
to
get
a
variance
and
if
I
get
turned
down,
I
have
to
take
City
Hall
to
court.