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City of Charleston Council Meeting - May 8,2018
B
Councilmember
white
councilmember
Sheila
councilmember
Lewis
councilmember,
Mitchell,
councilmember,
Wagner,
councilmember,
Gregory
councilmember
wearing
councilmember,
seeking
their
councilmember
shade
council
member
Griffin,
councilmember
moody
council
member
Jackson
me
at
eklund
burg.
Here
she
is
and
councilmember
Lewis
wants
everyone
to
know
that
he
is
absent
because
he
is
at
his
nephew's
graduation
in
Spartanburg
USC.
C
Aaron,
let
us
all
pray
Lord,
as
we
gather
here
today
as
colleagues
and
friends,
with
attention
to
a
common
goal
that
goal
to
be
the
continued
service
to
the
citizens
of
our
great
city.
Please
give
us
the
ability
to
provide
leadership
for
our
citizens
of
Charleston
and
fully
engage
our
responsibilities
as
community
leaders.
Let
us
seek
the
patience
of
each
other
as
we
strive
to
learn
and
grow
and
the
fortitude
to
make
a
difference
in
our
city
and
your
name.
We
pray,
amen.
A
There
are
over
500
events
of
local
artists
that
will
be
presented
at
piccolo
this
year.
It's
an
amazing
festival
and
I
must
say
in
the
past
of
both
my
predecessor,
mayor,
Reilly
and
and
myself
for
a
couple
of
years
had
the
practice
of
having
a
little
reception
on
the
day
that
Spoleto's
starts,
and
there
are
so
many
things
going
on
that
day.
I've
decided
not
to
do
that
anymore
and
instead
invite
everyone,
Council
and
the
public
to
enjoy
a
little
preview
of
piccolo
Spoleto.
A
So
next
Wednesday
May
16th
at
6
o'clock
at
the
schoolhouse
West
Ashley.
We
will
have
a
West
Ashley
preview
of
piccolo
with
some
performers
and
then
the
next
night
Thursday
May
17th
at
5
o'clock
at
the
city
gallery
on
Prioleau
Street.
We
will
repeat
the
show
so
to
speak
and
have
a
preview
of
piccolo
Spoleto
and
the
public
is
welcome
to
attend,
of
course,
council
as
well.
So
I
hope
you
all
can
make
one
of
those
to
preview
receptions
with
a
closed
balletto.
A
Next
we
have
no
public
hearings
tonight.
So
we're
go
straight
to
approval
of
City
Council
minutes
for
April
tennis.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
and
a
second
any
additions
deletions
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
and
the
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
April
24th
meeting
minutes
are
deferred
until
the
next
meeting.
So
next
already
we
have
our
citizens
participation
period
and
I.
A
Don't
know
how
many
people
have
signed
up,
but
while
we're
looking
for
that,
I'd
like
to
call
Margaret
Seidler
to
come
forward
and
introduce
some
guests
that
she
has
visiting
Charleston
from
China
and
tell
us
briefly
about
their
visit
and
please
share
with
them
that
we
Charlestonians
and
the
Chinese
have
something
in
common.
We
both
tend
to
eat
rice
every
day
and
worship
our
ancestors.
So
we
have
that
commonality
and
welcome
you
to
draw
Margaret.
D
Good,
thank
you
so
much
mr.
mayor,
I'm
so
excited
to
introduce
Taylor
if
you'll
stand
rax
and
joy
and
they're
all
living
in
Florida
right
now,
a
rax
and
Taylor
just
finished
master's
program
and
I
think
they're
hoping
to
stay
in
the
United
States
and
the
way
we
got
connected
is
Taylor
and
I
had
the
same.
Professor
I
had
a
professor
25
years
ago,
who
actually
went
to
China
to
run
a
young
Women's
Leadership
Program.
That
Taylor
is
in
so
this
professor
now
lives
in
Arizona.
D
A
E
Evening,
mayor
city,
council,
ladies
gentlemen,
councilman
Gregory,
we
want
to
thank
you
for
what
you
say
it
up
to
the
pastor's
on
tumamoc
Mariah
Church,
telling
them
that
they
got
the
land
and
resources
to
help
that
was
wonderful
and
I.
Think
all
the
citizens
should
appreciate
you
saying
that
you
know
Moses
staff
turned
into
a
snake
here.
E
The
staff
and
attorneys
as
a
snake
I
hear
the
men
and
talk
about
how
great
the
staff
is,
but
if
I
could
come
from
another
city
and
take
a
job
from
from
people
who
are
in
that
city
can't
get
the
job.
If
I
got
a
car,
I
work
for
the
city
and
I
Drive,
the
police,
car
I
get
my
gas
paid
for
and
etc
I'll
work
hard
too.
It
is
a
saying
that
to
whom
much
is
given
much
is
expected.
F
Good
evening
I'm
and
Birdseye
I'm,
a
member
of
circular
Congregational
Church
in
the
Charleston
area,
Justice
Ministry,
Greater
Charleston,
is
a
tale
of
two
cities
for
tourists.
Visiting
Charleston
it's
the
best
of
times
they
can
soak
in
Charleston
culture
eat
at
fine
restaurants
and
relax.
On
the
other
hand,
Charleston
is
an
increasingly
difficult
place
to
live.
People
who
have
lived
here
for
generations
and
upon
whose
back
the
economy
runs
can
barely
afford
housing.
Many
of
us
are
experiencing
the
worst
of
times.
The
lack
of
decent,
affordable
housing
affects
every
part
of
our
life.
F
When
kids
don't
have
affordable
housing,
they
do
worse
in
school.
When
people
are
fighting
drug
addiction
and
don't
have
safe,
decent,
affordable
housing,
they
relapse
at
higher
rates
when
people
with
health
conditions
like
high
blood
pressure
or
diabetes,
don't
have
safe,
decent,
affordable
housing.
They
end
up
in
the
ER.
More
often,
some
people
say
that
we
can't
afford
to
do
anything
about
housing.
We
say
we
can't
afford
not
to
some
have
asked.
Why
are
you
pushing
for
a
trust
fund
when
there
already
is
a
trust
fund?
This
is
true.
F
The
South
Carolina
Community
loan
fund
was
started
as
a
trust
fund
and
they
do
amazing
work.
However,
the
South
Carolina
Community
loan
fund
does
not
receive
a
significant
study,
dedicated
stream
of
funding
from
our
municipalities.
The
last
time
the
city
of
Charleston
gave
money
to
the
South
Carolina
community
to
loan
fund.
It
was
through
a
$25,000
grant
in
2017
in
researching
what
makes
housing
trust
fund
successful.
The
dedicated
ongoing
funding
source
is
the
key
tonight.
F
G
Good
evening
I'm
Claire
Curtis
and
I'm,
a
member
of
K
KB
E
and
of
K
Djem
we've
been
asked
why
we
were
pushing
for
this
when
the
city
of
Charleston
has
already
passed
the
twenty
million
dollar
bond.
The
20
million
dollar
bond
was
a
good
first
step,
but
this
alone
will
not
solve
the
problem.
The
twenty
million
dollar
bond
is
a
one-time
bond.
We
need
an
ongoing
solution.
G
Mayor
Tek
Limburg.
Your
call
to
action
from
your
2017
State
of
the
City
address
recognizes
that
when
you
said
quote
on
housing,
it
is
clear
that
housing,
affordability
is
a
regional
issue
at
a
crisis
level
and
we
must
use
every
tool
at
our
disposal
and
work
with
all
partners
to
provide
more
affordable
housing
products
in
the
Charleston
region.
End
quote:
we
also
applaud
the
city
for
moving
forward
with
the
Charleston
redevelopment,
Corporation,
land
trust
and
Housing
Trust
Funds
work
well
together.
The
most
important
component
needed
for
land
trusts
is
money
to
buy
land.
G
A
housing
trust
fund
could
provide
funds
for
the
Charleston
redevelopment
Corporation
to
buy
land.
These
aren't
in
conflict
with
one
another.
The
Housing
Trust
Fund
provides
more
tools
for
the
toolbox
in
addressing
the
affordable
housing
crisis.
Charleston
has
been
the
leader
in
providing
housing
for
all
of
our
citizens.
We
thank
council
members,
Gregory
Waring,
Jackson
and
Lewis
for
supporting
the
housing
action
plan
mayor.
We
urge
you
and
the
rest
of
council
to
meet
with
Cajun
and
other
allies
to
take
concrete
steps
to
solve
this
regional
housing
crisis.
Thank
you.
H
I
do
not
believe
dr.
Kogan
will
be
able
to
speak
he's
still
teaching
this
evening.
Mr.
mayor
and
members
of
the
City
Council,
my
name
is
Brett
Barry
and
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Charleston
historical
monuments
coalition.
We
are
a
group
of
local
residents
who
wish
to
preserve
our
many
historic
monuments
in
the
city
and
the
history
that
they
represent.
Many
of
us
belong
to
some
of
the
over
40
various
heritage
organizations
in
Charleston.
H
Some
are
descendants
of
the
city's
earliest
citizens,
while
others
are
recent
arrivals
such
as
myself,
who
have
a
deep
appreciation
for
our
local
history.
We
applaud
the
inclusion
of
the
figures
that
are
being
presented
tonight
as
part
of
the
completing
the
story
project
as
it
adds
to
Charleston's
history,
and
it's
about
time.
Everybody
wants
the
story
of
their
forebears
to
be
told,
and
it's
important
not
only
on
a
historical
level,
but
on
a
personal
level
as
well.
History
is
one
of
Charleston's,
most
precious
assets.
Many
visitors
come
to
tour
our
streets
and
historic
buildings.
H
Our
mission
has
always
been
to
protect
this
valuable
asset
by
protecting
three
main
pillars
in
regard
to
how
our
history
is
presented,
one
historical
accuracy
to
presenting
not
just
the
facts,
but
the
facts
which
provide
the
full
picture
and
allowing
individuals
to
make
up
their
own
mind
by
barring
opinionated
language
and
leading
narratives.
We
are
hopeful
that,
as
the
project
expands
to
other
monuments
in
Charleston
that
these
pillars
continue
to
be
respected.
We
are
also
here
today
to
become
better
informed
about
the
proposal.
H
Specifically,
we
are
interested
in
what
will
the
process
be
for
making
changes
to
the
audio
messages
in
the
future?
Will
City
Council
be
required
in
the
future
to
approve
any
changes
or
the
authority
be
delegated
outside
of
the
city
government?
This
is
a
core
concern
and
we've
been
recently
informed
of
some
information.
That
is
certainly
pleasing.
That
addresses
that
concern,
but
we'd
like
to
hear
the
specific
details
on
how
that
would
be
addressed
moving
forward
and
we
hope
City
Council
will
retain
some
type
of
oversight.
Thank
you
and
we
look
forward
to
the
presentation.
I
Mr.
mayor
councilmembers,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
my
name
is
dr.:
Bobby
Baker
I'm,
a
resident
Charleston.
Our
Charleston
is
one
of
the
most
visited
cities
in
the
United
States
being
considered.
One
of
the
friendliest
cities
in
America
is
certainly
among
the
reasons
why,
and
we
all
know
that
the
city
is
steeped
in
history
and
many
often
feel
as
though
they're
walking
back
in
time
as
they
stroll
our
streets.
I
often
stop
and
talk
to
the
tourists
and
try
to
offer
any
information
that
might
that
they
might
find
useful.
I
But
all
this
I
personally
believe
that
the
single
most
stable
aspect
of
Charleston
is
that
we
are
an
undivided
community
and,
yes,
we
are
friendly
because
we
respect
each
other
and
our
differences,
and
this
can
not
be
said
all
over
our
nation.
While
many
communities
are
struggling
with
a
deepening
divide,
we
have
stayed
on
solid
ground,
it's
not
a
coincidence,
but
something
that
Charlestonians
value
and
respect
simply
said.
I
We
don't
bow
our
horns
in
Charleston
I'm
here
today
to
express
my
support
for
providing
an
accurate
account
of
all
of
our
ancestors
and
the
efforts
to
avoid
any
attempt
to
divide
this
great
community.
As
long
as
we
stay
true
to
presenting
factual,
non
opinionated
information
that
I
believe
that
we
have
honored
our
ancestors
of
Charleston
with
integrity,
let
us
all
join
efforts
to
ensure
that
the
truth
is
being
presented
and
that
we
preserve
Charleston's,
unbroken
and
undivided
course
for
everyone's
prosperity.
Thank
you.
J
Well,
let's
see
how
many
times
with
right:
it's
founded
something
about
traffic
lights
sitting
at
the
17
in
San
Britton
burger
this
morning,
I'm
sitting
there
looking
at
a
row
of
green
lights,
probably
two
miles
down
and
what
happens
to
lights,
turn
red
and
guess
what
no
cars
come
out.
I
don't
know
what
it
takes,
but
I'll
tell
you
what
if
they
need
help
I'll
be
glad
to
go
over
there
and
fix
it,
probably
like
firing
people
now
next
thing:
the
roads
in
Charleston
I
can't
believe
how
bad
that
got.
J
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
downtown
and
somebody
needs
either
get
on
do
T
or
the
city
or
the
county.
Whoever
owns
these
roads
and
start
smoothing
them
out.
They're
crazy
number,
3,
Jay,
walkers
I
almost
got
rear-ended
for
the
third
time
today,
because
some
guy
decided
he
was
going
to
walk
across
Calhoun
Street
at
Calhoun
and
just
you
know,
green
light
for
us,
and
you
know
what
he
did.
He
just
said:
hold
it
just
walk
going
through
got
to
do
something
about
these
people.
J
Next
housing
I
know
you
don't
have
a
lot
to
do
with
the
housing
authority,
but
I'll
tell
you
what
their
buildings
are:
atrocious,
I've
been
having
to
repair
water
mains
that
are
cast-iron
that
somebody
they
threaded
the
opening,
which
is
a
tab
and
put
PVC
pipe
into
the
opening,
that's
ready
to
male
adapter
into
it.
Let
me
tell
you
what
you
really
need
to
look
at
doing.
You
need
to
take
care
of
gas
and
green.
J
K
Philip
Guston
hi,
my
name
is
phil
dustin
hi
mr.
mayor
members
of
council,
in
early
november,
normal
evene,
and
I
had
the
opportunity-
and
I
believe
it
at
your
request-
to
reproduce
or
to
show
what
we've
been
working
on.
Two
members
of
the
stormwater
department
or
water
control
planning
department,
the
engineering
departments,
including
Kinsey
Holton,
Chris
Morgan,
Josh,
Martin,
Laura
cabinets
and
Jim
warden,
Joel
Evans
from
the
sea
were
there
as
well.
We
explained
the
structure
of
John's,
Island
and
and
I
presented
the
work
that
I
put
in
front
of
you.
K
People
as
well,
and
then
norm
got
up
and
showed
that
this
is
a
really
very
similar
issues
in
cane
hoy
and
long
savanna
and
almost
everywhere
else
throughout
the
low
country.
In
other
words,
John's
Island
is
not
a
special
situation
and
people's
houses
are
being
flooded,
their
septic
systems
are
failing,
their
foundations
are
cracking
current
zoning.
Current
building
practices
are
woefully
out-of-date
and
the
light
of
the
knowledge
that
we
presented
to
the
city
staff
and
while
some
people
say
that's
new
knowledge,
that's
just
a
work
of
two
college
professors.
K
This
comes
deeply
embedded
from
work
that
has
been
developed
by
the
US
Geological
Survey
for
20
years,
and
they
use
this
information
to
do
real-time
disaster,
flood
predictions
and
helping
people
and
saving
lives.
So
this
is
real
data
that
we
presented,
not
just
the
findings
of
our
in
particular
works.
K
L
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
and
hello
city,
council
members,
my
name
is
Carrie
Agnew
I'm,
a
resident
of
Charleston
and
I
applaud
your
efforts
to
have
a
cigarette
free
parking
parks
for
the
kids
and
the
air
they
breathe
and
I.
Do,
though,
have
to
say,
I,
find
it
little
ironic,
since
we've
been
trying
so
hard
to
get
shore
power
for
the
cruise
ships,
which
have
belched
out
far
more
dangerous
emissions
in
a
very
invisible,
very
breathable
way
that
spreads
over
350
miles
from
where
those
cruise
ship
das
theater.
So
it
goes
to
Daniel
Island.
L
It
goes
to
West
Ashley.
It
goes
to
all
of
your
constituents
wherever
they
are.
We
have
worked
tirelessly
at
a
grassroots
level
and
even
gotten
the
approval
from
the
state
level
to
require
Shore
power
at
a
new
cruise
ship
terminal,
and
yet,
with
the
passage
of
the
tourism
management
plan
that
was
passed
in
2015,
one
of
the
issues
was
that
City
Council
was
going
to
really
work
hard
at
getting
shore
power
utilized
and
as
far
as
I'm
aware,
there
have
been
no
conversations
with
the
state
ports
authority
on
that
front.
L
I
know
from
a
personal
level
that
they're
not
necessarily
nice
conversations
to
have,
and
their
favorite
word
is
no
I,
also
know
that
SCE
ng
has
offered
to
significantly
defray
the
cost
of
putting
Shore
power
on
the
east
side
and
that's
going
to
be
required
with
any
development
that
happens
along
Waterfront,
Park
or
Joe
Riley
Park.
Now,
as
it
is
known,
we're
going
to
have
to
have
it
over
there,
and
so
at
some
point,
grassroots
people
need
the
support
of
our
elected
representatives
to
back
us
up
on
this
say
we
do
agree.
L
M
M
The
Court
recognizes
the
local
rules
that,
if
a
small
business
person
filing
a
claim
local
county
or
state
court
on
their
own
pro
se,
you
cannot
file
such
a
complaint
within
the
federal
court
as
a
local
business
person,
in
particular
an
African
American.
Now,
in
terms
of
me
being
in
the
bza
and
higher
than
all
this
I
know
something
to
Scott
that
matter.
M
African-Americans
is
still
epithets
across
the
street.
No
matter
you
got
a
u.s.
senator
whether
you've
got
a
congressman.
You
are
still
an
epithet.
There's
no
question
in
my
mind
in
that,
and
so
my
redress
of
prepossess
is
based
upon
that
fact,
and
so
I'm
gonna
team
to
keep
the
struggle
going
on
my
own.
M
There
are
happy
african-americans
in
this
country
doing
very
well
and
they
extremely
happy
unhappy
black
folk
make
a
lot
of
money
on
unhappy
black
folk,
and
so
therefore
you
are
unhappy
person
file
your
complaint
on
your
own
and
protest
as
a
little
person.
Now
we
may
comment
we
got
a
manual
many
years
ago.
My
free
speech
was
qualified
by
those
supporters.
Thinking
that
my
feces
undermine
their
speech
speech
on
my
speech,
fees
were
threatening.
B
A
Next,
we're
going
to
have
a
report
of
the
history
commission
and
completing
the
story,
a
wonderful
community
effort
bringing
the
community
together,
and
this
group
that's
been
formed
under
the
leadership
of
mr.
John.
Rivers
is
the
rainbow
group,
but
first
if
I
may
call
on
the
Chairman
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
service
of
our
history.
Commission
Harlan
Greene,.
N
Before
they
come
forward
to
the
presentation,
I
will
Ex
my
colleagues
to
really
listen
carefully
super
to
the
presentation.
I'm.
Also
a
member
of
the
history
committee
and
what
they're
gonna
say
is
something
that's
really
valuable
to
the
city
and
dealing
with
the
history
with
the
plaques
that
we
have
in
the
city
of
Charleston
and
now,
if
we
think
about
going
with
history,
this
will
share
more
because
you'll
be
hearing
more
about
it
and
you'll
be
when
you
go
to
those
particular
flats.
N
O
P
You
Harlan
good
evening,
mayor
council,
members
and
city
staff.
We
are
a
group
called
the
rainbow
group
and
our
interests
simply
is
to
enhance
the
city,
the
culture
of
the
city,
the
arc
of
the
city
for
the
community
and
for
visitors
alike,
and
there's
only
one
way
that
can
be
done,
and
that
is
by
simply
telling
a
fuller
story
of
the
history
and
the
culture
of
Charleston,
which
really
has
never
been
told
before.
P
O
The
committee
consists
of
myself
dr.
Bernie
powers
of
the
College
of
Charleston
and
Jonathan
green,
and
we
were
called
together
and
asked
to
come
up
with
to
follow
up
to
follow
a
model
that
was
done
first
in
London
and
has
now
been
done
in
Chicago
Illinois.
Where
is
people
now
approach
particular
spots
in
town
through
a
QR
code
or
some
other
information?
They
can
actually
then
punch
in
a
number
and
then
it's
living
history.
It's
three
minutes
of
text.
O
When,
if
you
stand,
let's
say
in
front
of
the
polisher
sisters,
monument
on
Pitt
Street,
you
will
queue
in
something
and
then
you
will
hare
three
different
voices
representing
the
poets
or
sisters
talking
about
their
contribution
to
history.
So
that's
quickly
what
it
is
about-
and
we
think
you
know
if
you
don't
use
technology
will
be
forgotten
so
and
then
the
way
this
worked
is
these
things
were
drafted.
They
were
presented
to
the
history,
the
Commission
on
history,
on
March,
7th
2018
and
that
Commission
of
which
I
am
the
chair.
O
We
approved
with
some
emendations
the
proposals
for
septum
of
Clark,
the
Grimke
sisters,
as
I
said:
Robert
smalls,
Denmark
Vesey,
the
Politzer
sisters.
Excuse
me
as
the
Politzer
sisters
that
I
mentioned:
Phillip
Simmons,
Alonso,
R
and
C
R
and
J
ladies
wearing,
and
these
are
the
first
ones.
We
see
that
they
will
probably
be
more
in
the
future
and
if
you
all,
have
any
questions
or
would
like
to
hear
a
sample.
We're
prepared.
A
N
Q
What
have
I
done
to
offend
my
darling
that
you
know
I'm
so
in
love
with
her
I
want
to
marry
her.
So
he
got
on
his
horse
and
rode
for
four
days
and
he
got
to
her
and
he
said
darling
what
have
I
done,
what
why
did
I?
How
did
I
offend
you
and
she
said:
I
didn't
have
enough
money
to
pay
for
your
letter.
So
back
then
the
recipient
paid
for
the
letter
and
he
said
well,
we've
got
to
fix
that.
Q
We'll
turn
it
around
where
the
sender
pays
for
the
letter
and
they
pay
two
pence,
and
most
of
you
here
are
too
young
to
remember.
But
the
first
post
that
were
sent
from
here
were
a
penny
and
then
two
cents
for
a
letter.
So
that's
the
basis
for
the
postal
system
in
the
United
Kingdom,
which
was
then
adopted
by
us
here
in
America.
So
well,
that's
a
pretty
good
idea
and
I
learned
something,
and
so
we
assemble
this
group
not
knowing
what
to
call
ourselves
and
ended
up
with
the
name,
the
rainbow
group
and
there.
Q
The
whole
premise
is
to
use
Walter
Edgar,
who
has
considered
the
Guru
of
history
for
the
state
of
South,
Carolina
and
edit.
Some
of
this
works
not
so
that
they're,
politically
leaning
one
way
or
the
other,
but
so
that
the
facts
are
historically
accurate.
This
was
referred
to
earlier
and
and
then
have
people
that
are
mostly
local,
read
whatever
the
text
is,
so
the
text
is
meant
to
be
600
words
or
maybe
up
to
two
minutes
and
I
actually
have
a
demonstration
here.
Q
If
you
walked
up
to
the
statue-
and
you
see
this
sign
right
here-
it
tells
you
what
to
do
so.
You
put
up
to
the
QR
code
and
you
get
a
picture
of
Alonzo
ronzi
a
well
I've,
never
heard
of
the
lives
of
runs,
yeah,
okay,
but
listen
to
Alonzo
is
it
says,
go
he's
calling
me
from
his
statue.
Okay,
I
answer
the
phone.
R
R
R
It
was
a
sad
into
my
political
career
born
a
free
man
in
Charleston
in
1834
I
worked
as
a
shipping
clerk
but
entered
politics
as
soon
as
I
was
legally
allowed.
It
was
the
time
of
exciting
possibilities.
The
end
of
the
Civil
War
had
given
forming
in
slaves,
their
freedom
and
as
newly
enfranchised
black
people
gained
a
voice
in
government.
For
the
first
time
in
American
history,
biracial
governments
came
to
power.
I
was
part
of
that
history,
elected
to
South,
Carolina's
House
of
Representatives.
R
During
the
Reconstruction
period,
a
moderate
I
successfully
opposed
literacy
requirements
for
voltar's
and
supported
provisions
to
prohibit
racial
discrimination.
I
believed
in
the
right
of
women
to
vote
attending
eighteen
seventies.
Women's
suffrage
convention
in
Columbia
after
my
term
as
lieutenant
governor
I,
was
elected
to
the
US
House
of
Representatives
in
1817,
but
what
the
end
of
Reconstruction
in
South,
Carolina
I,
lost,
all
political
support
and
my
career
came
to
an
abrupt
end
in
1877.
R
I
never
did
find
comparable
employment
and
was
forced
to
make
ends
meet
as
a
labourer
and
night
watchman
I
died
of
malaria
in
1882
at
the
age
of
48.
My
tragedy
was
America's
tragedy.
In
less
than
a
decade.
Those
golden
years
of
interracial
democracy
ended
in
violent
backlash
and
white
supremacy
was
restored.
R
Q
Really.
You
know
piqued
your
curiosity,
where
you
might
want
to
go,
find
out
some
more
about
Alonso,
Ron's
egg
or
septima
Clark
or
any
of
the
other
people
that
are
here.
So
what
we're
asking
for
is
the
rainbow
group
is
your
permission
to
go
forward
and
to,
as
representative
Mitchell
said
to
please
give
us
the
go-ahead
to
complete
this
story.
So
thank
you.
Yes,.
N
Mr.
Miller,
since
we
already
have
a
motion
on
the
floor,
I
wanted
to
say
that
I
was
very
interested
in
this,
because
I
was
part
of
the
civil
rights
movement
in
the
60s.
When
I
mentioned
that
I
got
arrested,
25
time
back
right
here
in
Charleston,
demonstrating
and
things
so
history
was
something
that
were
always
along
with
Keith,
where
his
father
Louis
swearing.
He
was
out
there
with
me
in
this,
but
he
always
called
me
another
name,
but
this
is
something
I
was
very,
very
interested
in
and
mr.
N
rivers
came
and
spoke
to
me
about
it.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
it.
It's
good
nice
that
we
need
to
know
the
history
of
a
lot
of
different
people,
and
this
is
this
is
not
a
racial
thing.
Everybody
would
be
there
hearing
a
history
of
the
different
people
that
came
forth
and
that
movement,
if
you
may
so
this
is
why
I
brought
I
wanted
to
come
to
Council
and
I
wanted
to
talk
about
it,
talk
about
it,
so
we
can
go
ahead
and
I'm
asking
my
colleagues
to
vote
unanimously
on
this.
S
Q
This
is
the
beginning,
and
the
idea
for
the
future
is
to
select
additional
names
and
places
go
through
the
same
process
of
the
Commission
on
history.
Go
back
and
get
city
council
approval
again
so
that
it's
totally
transparent
and
then,
ultimately,
you
know,
hopefully
have
like
writing
contests
to
encourage
school
children
to
write
a
history
of
a
particular
person
or
monument
and
then
have
a
committee
who
would
select
the
winner
of
that
and
there'd
be
some
kind
of
financial
remuneration
but
the.
But
all
of
this
isn't
going
to
cost
the
city
a
dime.
T
Q
T
T
U
A
Me
if
I
may
give
my
interpretation
of
the
answer
that
question
I
might
ask
our
council
to
weigh
in
as
well.
It
honestly
historically
has
has
not
been
the
practice
of
City
Council
to
approve
every
word
on
every
plaque
and
every
word
of
every
statement.
That's
been
left
to
the
history.
Commission
I
think
the
matter
that
became
before
us
a
few
months
ago
with
the
John
C
Calhoun
I
felt
that
it
was
of
such
significance
that
it
needed
to
come
to
Council's
approval
I
feel
that
the
history
Commission
is
empowered
with
representation
from
council.
A
Councilmember
Griffin
and
Mitchell
now
serve
on
the
Commission
to
be
able
to
make
the
decisions
to
do
the
historical
research
and
approve
I,
wouldn't
say
everyday
matters
like
this,
but
matters
like
this
and
and
the
wording
on
plaques
throughout
the
city.
That's
what
they're
charged
with
in
this
case.
It
may
be
a
peculiar
little
addition.
We
do
have
to
approve
the
placement
of
any
any
markers
or
on
our
property,
and
so
in
the
case
where
it's
a
sticker
like
this
is,
is
put
on
city
property.
A
V
A
W
And
there
I
would
suggest
that
maybe
we
are
approving
the
new
initiative,
so
it
literally
is
something
that
would
be
brand
new
in
front
of
the
Parks
and
Rec
committee
and
then
at
that
point,
that
I
would
be
happy
to
authorize
the
history
Commission
working
under
the
auspices
of
the
Parks
and
Rec
to
to
many
other
additions
to
this
brand-new
project.
Right.
A
N
A
S
Gives
me
a
good
segue
to
move
out
of
the
order.
I
think
we
have
some
housekeeping
to
go
back
and
correct.
We
have
citizen
participation
and,
for
the
most
part,
we
have
freedom
of
speech,
but
when
that
speech
is
disparaging
to
our
staff,
we
need
to
go
back
and
correct
it.
When
mr.
Mohammed
referred
to
our
staff
as
being
state
snakes,
I
can't
tell
you
how
incorrect
that
is.
S
S
That
goes
public.
That
goes
above
and
beyond.
I
can't
tell
you
how
all
of
us,
how
proud
we
are
of
this
staff.
During
the
meltdown,
we
had
somewhere
north
of
1900
a
we
have
about
1700
employees,
and
we
literally
experienced
record
growth
right
now
and
it's
still
being
accommodated
the
overworked
and
the
underpaid,
and
they
don't
deserve
there.
So
I
thought
you
would
want
to
say
something.
I
know,
I,
think
all
of
us
feel
that
our
staff
needs
to
be
celebrated
and
not
being
the
subject
of
a
cheap
shot.
I,
don't.
V
Mr.
mayor
Samir
I
mean
it
councilman,
you're,
Gregory
and
then
Moody,
that's
just
speaking
of
staff,
because
I
totally
agree
with
my
colleague
here
that
staff
really
does
not
get
the
kind
of
recognition
that
they
need.
For
instance,
it's
been
flooding
at
Fishburne
and
presidents
feet
all
of
my
life.
V
It's
been
flooding
and
Ashley
instructor,
all
of
my
life,
the
pump
stations
not
even
in
yet
and
it
doesn't
flood
there
anymore
I-
think
we
need
to
make
sure
when
these
kinds
of
things
happen,
that
we
applaud
our
staff
because,
as
you
know,
that's
been
an
issue
in
this
city,
most
of
not
all
of
our
lives.
So
our
staff
do
a
remarkable
job
in
terms
of
delivering
to
the
citizens
of
this
city
and
I
applaud
them.
Thank,
You,
councilmember
moody.
A
T
I
just
wanted
to
pick
up
on
what
councilmember
wearing
said
and
and
I
think
that
the
the
chair
of
any
committee
in
this
case
it
would
be
you
but
ways
it
means
or
any
other
committee.
If
there
are
personal
attacks
like
that,
they
ought
to
be
ruled
out
of
order
immediately
when
it
occurs,
and
so
I
would
ask
you
to
be
observant
and
all
of
us,
as
we
chair
committees,
to
be
observant
of
that
Thank.
W
I
would
agree
with
mr.
moody
on
that
basis.
Mr.
mayor,
but
I
wanted
to
say
that
we
have
an
opportunity
quarterly
to
celebrate
our
staff
at
their
employee
awards,
breakfast
and
so
I.
Would
it's
a
great
time?
It's
a
wonderful
spot.
It
always
shines.
The
Sun
always
shines.
The
Maritime,
Center
I've
been
told,
and
you
get
a
great
breakfast
and
we
hear
the
stories
of
employees
and
really
get
to
sit
with
them
and
shake
their
hand.
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
come
to
the
next
one,
which
I
think
is
June
right.
Thank
you.
So.
A
J
A
X
U
X
And
if
I
could
just
read
to
you
the
letter
we
received
in
recognition
of
this,
the
whitewall
award
recognizes
individuals,
groups
or
government
entities
for
the
long
term,
protection
and
preservation
of
important
buildings
and
places,
as
well
as
those
involved
with
preservation
advocacy.
We
believe
that
the
hard
work
in
community
engagement
by
the
West,
actually
revalidation
Commission
will
make
a
positive
difference
for
West
Ashley
and
the
entire
city
of
Charleston,
as
this
plan
is
implemented
in
the
coming
year.
X
X
A
A
Y
A
A
N
A
X
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
members
of
the
council,
the
Public
Safety
Committee
met
yesterday
with
one
item
on
the
agenda,
and
that
is
a
review
in
recommendation
concerning
the
Charleston
citizen.
Police
advisory
council
are
brand
new
Chiefs
Luther
Reynolds
was
present
with
us
yesterday.
This
proposal
came
out
of
the
work
by
his
predecessor,
chief
Mullen,
and
the
illumination
project.
X
Yes,
while
Greg
is
still
with
us,
so
this
recommendation
from
the
illumination
project
is
right
on
point
with
this
Advisory
Council.
This
is
an
advisory
council.
It's
not
here
to
accept
to
write
complaints
and
rule
on
those
complaints
is
here
to
create
open
and
transparent
dialogue
between
the
community
and
between
the
police
department
and
I'm,
asked
to
chief
of
U
at
mine
this
coming
forward
and
then
I'll
give
a
follow-up
report
us
to
some
of
the
concerns
that
the
committee
had.
Regarding
the
makeup
of
this
council
to.
Z
Z
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
good
way
of
continuing
the
healthy
dialogue,
the
healthy
engagement,
the
healthy
discussions
that
I
think
already
exist,
but
this
is
a
formalized
way
of
people
having
an
audience
with
the
chief
with
some
of
my
team
who
are
here
tonight.
We
welcome
this
as
a
another
way
of
collaborating
and
partnering
I
see
it
as
a
very
positive
thing.
It
hasn't
necessarily
always
been
viewed
that
way,
but
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
it
done
and
moving
forward.
Thank.
X
So
if
you
include
the
mayor
and
the
chief
is
members
of
this-
so
that's
that's
that's
a
huge
number
of
folks,
and
so
one
of
the
concerns
we
had
was
very
reducing
your
number
from
eight
to
four.
Not
to
do
that
to
exclude
anybody.
Obviously
you
keep
it
open
but
to
keep
the
composition
in
a
pragmatic
format
so
that
you
and
the
chief
are
working
together
and
being
forward
moving
with
the
things
on
your
agenda
that
may
pop
up
from
time
to
time.
X
The
other
question
came
up
was:
are
we
excluding
any
members
of
the
Chiefs
senior
staff
from
participating
then
attending
these
meetings?
And
we
don't
know,
do
not
want
to
do
that.
I
think
the
senior
staff
numbers
need
to
be
present
with
that
and,
like
I
said
earlier,
the
three
high
school
seniors
would
be
a
part
of
this.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
were
a
legal
age
of
18
or
at
least
17
and
got
in
their
parents
permission
to
do
this.
T
Y
X
I
didn't
in,
let
me
address
that.
Did
I
came
up
with
mr.
Wagner's
concerns
that
we
who
representative
majority
of
Wesley
would
would
me
have
too
much
of
a
broad
representation
of
from
West
Ashley
and
dilute
with
maybe
more
areas
of
concerns
with
the
downtown
on
the
peninsula
part.
So
the
mayor's
choices
could
adjust
that
when
you
read
the
mission
statement
to
bring
together
people
of
diverse
backgrounds
encompassing
identity,
academia,
business
leaders,
faith-based
organizations,
elected
officials,
media
law
enforcement,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
following
someone
within
that
party.
X
But
if
we're
not,
then
the
mayor's
appointments
could
could
fill
that
gap
as
well.
But,
as
mr.
seedings
just
said,
the
qualifications
require
not
only
that
you
have
no
criminal
record,
but
did
you
attend
policing,
101
training
and
participate
in
police
wide
alongs?
Plural?
So
you
don't
just
this
is
a
working
committee
working
council,
so
I
think
some
of
the
issues
that
you
may
want
to
make
sure
that
you've
got
them
on
is
whoever's
appointed
is
gonna
have
to
roll
up
their
sleeves
and
work?
Y
You
got
to
actually
go
to
school.
You
got
to
go
to
police
one,
a
policing,
101
you've
got
to
do
ride-alongs,
so
in
order
for
them
to
be
cohesive
and
to
move
forward
and
to
give
you
all
the
tools
that
you
need,
particularly
you,
chief
I,
just
think
26
is
unwieldy,
and
if
we
can
get
that
number
down,
I
think
it
would
probably
be
a
much
more
effective
committee.
Y
N
That's
one
excellent
price:
I
know
you
have
it
on
there
with
the
qualification
say
there
are
no
long
criminal
record
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
I,
don't
believe
that
have
nothing
to
do
with
a
person's
service.
Once
I've
been
on
the
committee,
because
those
particular
individuals
might
be
able
to
give
more
insight,
sometimes
on
pace,
that's
happening
in
this
community,
even
with
giving
out
the
information,
even
with
the
program
that
we
are
working
with
with
young
maidens.
That's
coming
through
the
city
of
Charleston
that'd
be
giving
a
second
chance.
N
You
can
me,
but
I
don't
understand
it.
That
works
on
an
individual
system
for
a
while
I.
Just
don't
understand
that
you
stood
for
me
discriminating
from
other
people
again
that
I,
don't
think
I
really
have
nothing
to
do
with
it.
If
you
have
a
back
criminal
background-
and
you
know
that
you
won't
serve
on
a
committee
that
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
give
the
information
out
the
work
or
not
our
business
with
a
basri
committee
of
you
me
I
rested
all
this
time
14
times
so
I
might
be
from
here
now.
W
Councilmember
Mitchell
in
due
respect,
I,
think
reading
closely.
It's
talking
about
people
would
be
in
the
active
system,
so
people
who
are
currently
under
probation
or
parole
or
have
outstanding
warrants
I
totally
agree
with
you
that
people
have
learned
you
know
from
their
mistakes
and
have
the
insights
of
what
it's
like
to
be
on
the
other
side
of
the
policing
system
in
our
in
our
community
and
what
to
volunteer
to
better
the
relationships
that
we
have
would
be
an
invaluable
member
of
this
committee.
W
A
X
So
it
doesn't
really
from
having
a
prior
criminal
record.
It's
just
those
that
have
an
outstanding
legal
warrant
or
is
currently
under
indictment
or
serving
a
sentence
like
a
parole
or
probation.
So
but
I
agree
with
you,
councilman
Mitchell
those
who
have
gone
through
the
system.
They
have
some
valuable
experience
and
insight
as
to
how
they
were
treated.
What
took
place
with
their
as
they
would
do
the
process,
but
I
think
from
a
legal
sample.
We
just
need
to
be
careful
that
they've
got
something
pindy
or
outstanding.
That
may
cause
some
other
concerns.
A
Testing
testing
how's
that
okay
I
be
having
to
use
one
of
my
appointments
to
nominate
one
of
our
former
offenders.
That
has
either
come
through
the
turning
leaf
program
or
one
of
those
similar
programs
that
frankly,
I've
been
involved
with
over
the
last
10
to
15
years,
because
people
do
deserve
a
second
chance
and
we've
proven
in
the
city
of
Charleston.
We've
hired
folks
from
three
different
I
believe
in
recycling.
Okay,
and
we
we
have
fine
employees
that
have
come
out
of
three
different
former
offender
program.
I'd
be
happy
to
appoint.
A
One
of
those
so
I
think
that
clarifies
that
question
and
let
me
state
that
I'm
very
happy
to
reduce
the
number
by
eight
to
four
for
my
appointments
to
bring
the
committee
size
down
to
a
manageable
number.
A
wood
asset
y'all
go
ahead
and
get
me
your
recommendations
first,
so
that,
if
there's
some
need
for
consideration
for
diversity,
that
I'd
be
able
to
fill
in
the
gap.
Councilmember
Wagner,
quick.
U
Quick
thought
one
that
here
that
time
we
got
first
off
does
I
have
second
thought:
I
believe
that
we
have
too
many
people
here.
Basically,
that's
proposed
it's
about
the
same
size
that
the
West
actually
revitalization,
that
would
love
people
now.
The
third
thing
is
I
think
we
have
a
recipe
and
we're
just
not
sure
what
to
put
in
it
and
sometimes,
rather
than
throw
it
all
in
at
one
time,
just
put
it
in
one
of
the
time.
U
Other
words:
if
we
start
a
little
bit
smaller,
then
we
need
more
salt
and
pepper,
more
oregano
or
whatever,
then
that
with
nothing
to
grow
and
actually
tweak
to
membership
little
bit,
that's
both
throwing
it
all
in
there
what's
enough
being
off
to
what
we're
doing
here.
So
that's
why,
when
they
thought
by
the
way,
welcome
chief,
let's
see
glad
to
have
you
thank.
A
Y
S
I
understand
that
counseling
secret
job
I
mean
this
is
Seidler,
saying
one
of
the
things
about
the
illumination
project.
Is
we
had
too
many
grey
haired
people
in
the
room
and
I
think
she
can
speak
to
that?
We
got
some
younger
people
in
the
room
and
they
got
different
voices
and
aspects
that
I
think
we
would
never
heard,
and
they
not
been
this
so
I-
think
the
high
school
piece
hopefully
can
be
worked
around,
and
maybe
it
won't
be.
There.
A
I'll
be
glad
to
point
three:
we
have
a
mayor's
Youth
Council
that
comprises
high
school
students
really
from
all
over
the
district.
They're,
wonderful,
young
men
and
women
and
I
could
easily
ask
three
of
them
to
serve
just
a
year
at
a
time
because
they
graduate
and
go
off
college
but
I'm.
Very,
very
simple.
For
me
to
do
that.
Don't
remember:
Griffin
I,.
AA
A
N
Is
gonna
make
sure
that
we
have
two
young
people
never
because
filled
leaving
a
lot
of
time,
because
even
a
young
people
are
these
things
that
we
needed
need
now
in
this
community
to
come
forward.
So
we
need
the
young
people
out
here.
I,
don't
know
what
people
are
doing
like
I
tell
in
this
council
all
the
time
I'm
not
in
this
community,
all
the
time.
All
of
the
time
you
see
crossly,
Lewis,
nine.
N
We
are
here
more
so
than
most
any
other
council
members
because
they
don't
have
to
be
out
here
because
as
elements
we
need
to
have
these
young
people
to
get
involved
in
these
situations
that
we're
doing
so.
We
can
try
to
steer
them
in
the
right
direction
and
they
can
lead
all
the
young
people
in
two
or
two.
So
I
have
a
big
thing
when
you're
dealing
with
young
people
coming
in,
we
have
to
have
them
live
we're
gonna
be
moving
off
soon
moving
on,
so
we
need
to
have
these
young
people
in
place
too.
N
So
I
don't
like
emanating
these
young
people
too
much
now,
you
know
I,
just
I
just
have
no
problems
with
doing
things
like
that.
I,
don't
know
what
becoming.
Sometimes
you
don't
get
one
here
now
the
things
that's
happening
annuity.
Who
is
happening
that
and
we
are
talking
about
it
all
the
time
on
this
council
people.
N
Z
Speak
yeah,
gratefully
yeah
I
just
want
to
assure
the
council
and
the
community
and
those
people
that
are
listening
today,
that
the
purpose
of
this
is
to
embrace
everything
and
embody
everything
that
was
just
discussed.
Council
member
Mitchell
I
think
your
points
going
I'm
lucky
I'm
on
this
side
of
the
lawn,
not
not
the
other
side.
It
could
easily
go
on
different
direction.
Z
We
have
a
lot
of
things
to
work
through
just
I.
Think
just
about
everybody
in
this
country
would
recognize
that
there's
a
history
there's
a
lot
of
distrust
for
the
police.
There's
a
lot
of
work
that
we
need
to
accomplish
we're
gonna,
embrace
the
dialog,
the
disagreement,
the
discourse,
the
history
that
exists.
That's
unique
to
this
city,
the
disenfranchised
people
that
have
trust
issues
with
the
police.
That's
the
whole
purpose
of
this
committee.
We
do
not
want
to
hide
from
any
issues.
We
don't
want
to
rubber-stamp
this.
B
A
X
AC
Z
X
A
But
in
fact
most
of
those
early
settlers,
both
enslaved
and
free,
came
to
Charleston
by
way
of
Barbados.
And
so
we
share
a
history
and
a
heritage
with
you
that
we
celebrate
and
we're
really
honored
today
to
have
with
us
the
ambassador
to
the
United
States
from
Barbados.
The
Honourable
cell
went
hard
and
if
I
could
call
ambassador
Hart
to
please
come
on
forward
and
join
me
on
the
on
the
podium,
we're
just
meeting
for
the
first
time.
A
And
I
apologize
ambassador
that
I
missed
the
reception
last
night,
but
hopefully
we
can
make
up
for
that
as
the
week
goes
by,
I
had
to
attend
an
important
event
up
in
Columbia
our
state
capital.
Yesterday,
so
I
missed
the
rum
reception
and
I'm,
not
a
big
runnin
drinker
mr.
ambassador,
but
when
I
drink
rum,
I,
drink,
Mount,
Gay.
A
So
we
have
other
guests
here
with
the
ambassador
and
he
might
do
a
better
job
than
I
introducing
them.
Do
you
mind
doing
that?
Mr.
ambassador
Lee
I
mean
I
could
call
everyone's
name
out
on
the
sheet,
but
since
I
wasn't
there
last
night,
I
didn't
I
didn't
get
to
meet
them
all,
and
then
I
also
want
to
recognize
our
own
Nita
Weiss
is
here
who's
leading
up
our
Charleston
sister
cities
effort
so,
but
if
I
may
give
you
the
microphone
on
the
podium
mr.
A
AD
AD
AD
Rhoda
is
an
extremely
active
member
of
the
Charleston
community
and,
like
those
early
orb
aliens
that
visited
and
shuttle
this
great
city
and
state,
she
is
a
pioneer
and
an
adventurer.
So
Rhoda
you've
done
a
fabulous
job
and
we
continue
to
depend
on
you
and
finally
last,
but
by
no
means
least,
we
have
another
colleague
of
mine
at
the
Embassy
Miss
Teresa
grieves,
who
is
here
with
us.
AD
Finally,
mayor
and
members
of
the
Cong
Council
said
Congress
I'm
so
used
to
being
in
Washington
DC,
and
you
should
not
apologize
for
missing.
Last
night's
reception,
I
was
Riley.
I
was
stuck
in
a
meeting
with
the
vice
president.
It
wasn't
only
myself,
but
the
members
of
the
Organization
of
American
States.
AD
We
had
a
protocol
or
a
special
quarter
corollary
session,
that
the
Vice
President
of
the
United
States
Michael,
can't
address
where
we
looked
at
some
of
the
challenges
that
our
hemisphere
currently
faces
and
how
we,
as
an
entire
Hemisphere
countries
of
the
Americas,
can
work
closely
to
resolve
some
of
those
challenges
so
privilege
again
for
me
to
be
here.
We
are
looking
for
for
this
for
the
assignment
of
the
city's
sister
city
relationship
not
to
be
a
mere
symbolic
app.
We
believe
that
we
can
advance
deeper
cooperation
around
or
shared
values
around
shape
culture.
AD
We
are
active
democracy.
We
are
pursuing
economic
development
and
extremely
aggressive
manner,
similar
to
what
you're
doing
here
in
this
great
city
of
Charleston.
So
we
believe
that
this
represents
the
basis
for
a
modernized
and
reinvigorated
sister
city,
and
that's
why
I'm
here
and
that's
why
my
colleagues
are
here
to
ensure
that
we
can
get
this
up
and
running
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
I
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you
and
also
to
welcoming
you
to
Barbados.
Thank
you.
A
If
I
may,
mr.
ambassador,
we
have
a
letter
of
understanding
between
the
city
of
Charleston,
South
Carolina
and
the
city
of
Speightstown
Barbados
from
witness
we
came
and
I
would
like
to
read
this
and
then
have
both
of
us
execute
this
letter
of
understanding
in
order
to
continue
to
foster
and
strengthen
relations
and
provide
mutual
benefits
to
their
communities.
A
Therefore,
by
fixing
our
signatures
on
behalf
of
our
respective
cities
and
country,
we
declare
and
reaffirm
the
relationship
between
Charleston
South,
Carolina
and
Speightstown
Barbados,
with
the
purpose
of
continuing
the
mutual
understandings
of
history,
heritage
and
culture
between
the
people
of
our
two
great
cities
and
the
sincere
hope
of
seeking
and
developing
new
prospects
for
greater
opportunities
and
signed
this
month
of
May
I'm.
Going
to
go
ahead
and
execute
this
mr.
ambassador
and
it's
May,
the
8th
I
should
have
known
that
mr.
ambassador.
B
T
Wanted
to
welcome
the
ambassador
and
I've
been
to
your
island
several
times,
and
we've
already
had
some
exchange
with
some
of
your
citizens
down
there.
The
first
time
I
went
I
was
playing
golf
on
a
golf
course.
There
I
had
drive
by
ship
and
we
were
playing
on
one
of
the
golf
courses
and
I
was
driving
and
we
had
a
four
caddy
which
those
of
you
don't
play
golf
you
got
some
right
rods
around
with
you
tells
where
the
course
never
left.
T
You
had
to
have
a
four
caddies
I'm
driving
the
cart
and
he's
standing
on
the
back,
and
we
had
to
go
from
one
hole
to
the
next.
We
had
to
go
out
onto
the
street
well,
on
the
top
of
the
cart
I
hear,
hitting
B
I'm
driving
on
the
wrong
side
of
this
I
didn't
know
what
he
was
doing,
but
anyway
he
got
me
all
the
right
side
anyway.
I
have
another
but
good
fun.
Original
memories.
With
your
with
your
countries,.
A
A
E
A
AB
AD
AD
AD
AE
K
A
AB
J
AD
AB
A
AE
AE
Okay,
welcome
it's
wonderful
to
be
here.
This
is
my
ninth
visit
to
Charleston
I
first
came
in
1985
as
part
of
the
tourism
office
in
Barbados
desire
for
someone
with
an
interest
in
architectural
history
to
come
and
research.
The
question
of
whether
the
single
houses
of
Charleston
had
actually
evolved
from
the
single
houses
of
Barbados.
AE
We'll
have
the
tercentenary
anniversary
of
the
hanging
of
the
notorious
Steve
on
it.
The
gentleman
pirate
of
Barbados,
who
captured
some
22
ships
off
the
coastal
waters
of
South
Carolina
and
who
is
reputed
to
have
be
far
too
gentle
a
man
to
kill
people
at
the
point
of
the
sword
and
he
said
to
have
invented
the
walking
of
the
plank.
But
muhammadans
brought
many
things.
The
Charleston,
as
you
know,
other
than
pirates.
We
think
that
we
infant
the
evolution
of
the
single
house
of
Barbados
and
determined.
AE
So
we
think
that's
relevant
the
lots
of
other
things
that
we
think
we
brought,
and
one
of
them
was
the
Gullah,
which
is
a
kind
of
creole
of
English
and
African
language
and
the
accent
of
beat
with
people
speaking
Gaza
is
remarkably
similar
to
Barbados
and
I
can
use
just
one
term.
The
first
book,
I
bought
in
Charleston,
was
called
Charleston
receipts.
Not
recipes
and
receipts
is
an
archaic
word
for
recipes
which
was
preserved
in
Barbados
and
preserved
in
Charleston.
So
there's
so
much
more
about
the
place.
AE
What
we
like
to
export
is
the
rum,
and
we
hope
that
through
the
Barbados
Carolina
Legacy
Foundation,
which
wrote
a
green
and
her
colleagues
have
initiated
here
in
Charleston
that
we
will
further
this
partnership
to
recreate
the
tremendous
partnership
between
Barbadians
and
Charles
Tony
ins,
when
Charlton
was
half
destroyed
by
fire
in
1740.
The
barbarians
made
a
Sunday
church
collection
in
every
Church
across
the
island
to
raise
hundreds
of
pounds
to
send
to
Charleston
in
1740
and
when
the
same
thing
happened
in
the
city
of
British
town
in
1766.
AE
The
Charlestonians
did
the
same
and
sent
her
758
pounds,
which
today
will
be
about
7
or
17
million
pounds.
So
that
kind
of
relationship
is
what
we
would
like
to
rebuild
through
the
Legacy
Foundation.
And
we,
of
course,
would
like
you,
mr.
mayor,
to
promote
the
possibility
of
a
direct
flight
between
bubbles.
AE
When
I
first
came
to
Charleston
I
had
to
leave
home
under
seven
o'clock,
American
Airways
light
and
I
landed
in
Charleston
at
eleven
o'clock
at
night.
Now
it's
only
two
flights
instead
of
three
and
we
get
here
at
six
o'clock,
but
we'd
like
that
five-hour
flight
between
Barbados
and
Charleston,
so
that
you
can
all
come
and
go
at
will
and
enjoy
the
most
famous
barbatus
product,
the
rum
punch
of
Barbados,
because
it
is
barbatus
that
the
rum
come
from.
Thank
you,
sir.
AB
A
Y
A
B
A
B
A
Discussion
on
any
of
those
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
the
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
now
for
third
reading,
a
notification.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
so
I'll
be
signing
these.
While
we
begin
discussion,
if
any
on
the
bills
up
for
first
reading,
we
just
have
one-
and
maybe
someone
from
planning
would
like
to
give
us
a
little
explanation
of
this
bill
which
will
remove
residential
uses
from
heavy
and
light
industrial
zone
districts.
Mr.
Lindsey,
where.
AF
You
use
the
bulk
of
it
and
a
request
came
to
council
to
look
at
the
light
industrial,
heavy
industrial
districts
to
limit
those
districts
to
exactly
those
uses
and
not
to
enable
other
uses
within
them.
And
that's
exactly
what's
before
you.
It's
a
text,
amendment
that
simply
removes
the
residential
components
from
the
light
industrial
and
heavy
industrial
throughout
the
city
of
Charleston.
A
T
Mr.
Lin's
yeah
I'm
having
a
little
bit
of
a
problem
with
this
other
words
you're
taking
all
of
the
residential
out
of
light
industrial
I
think
the
problem
is
a
little
bit
different
than
that.
It
seems
to
me
like
when
we
have
commercial
zonings,
like
general
business,
light
industrial
and
some
of
those
things
particular
areas
in
the
city
that
maybe
some
residential
is,
is
appropriate
and
that's
why
we
have
a
little
trouble
with
this,
because
some
of
the
areas
in
the
city
may
be
up
towards
cane
high
up
in
that
area.
T
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
business
up
in
there
and
maybe
the
light
industrial.
We
want
people
to
live
and
work
in
the
same
place.
My
objection
to
the
residential
is
that
they
take
a
light
industrial
or
a
general
business
which
has
that
component
and
all
of
a
sudden
they
flip
it
upside
down
and
we've
got
a
we've,
got
a
residential
use
rather
than
a
than
a
general
business.
That's
that's
my
concern
with
that.
T
It
seems
to
me
like
we
ought
to
maybe
allow
some
level
of
residential,
but
if
you
want
more,
you
have
to
come
back
and
get
an
exception
or
get
a
then
it
might
be
appropriate
to
do
it
in
that
and
I
just
I
just
got
a
problem
with
just
eliminated.
All
of
it
and
I
think
it
might
need
a
little
bit
more
work
here
to
come
back
and
kind
of
figure
out
some
minimum
level
and
then
allow
an
exception.
If
you
want
to
do
more
of
it,.
A
AB
AA
Think
that
we
we
need
to
give
this
first
rating
the
way
that
it
is,
but
in
between
for
me,
I
to
a
certain
extent
that
we
have
to
look
for
some
more
mixed,
you
stuff
and
there's
definitely
areas
in
Charleston.
That
is
zoned,
light
industrial
right
now.
That
could
probably
be
changed
to
mix
use
so
I'd
like
us
to
look
at
that,
but
you
talk
about
like
John's
Island,
but
some
of
the
areas
on
Kane
Oh
as
well,
that
you
know
they're
our
last
frontier
of
our
city
that
have
a
very
rural
aspect
to
them.
AA
I
was
driving
on
John's
Island
last
week,
and
you
know
you
just
don't
see
that
kind
of
landscape
really
anymore.
It's
the
our
last
frontier
in
the
city
of
Charleston,
and
you
know,
one
thing
that
was
brought
up
was
well.
If
we
would
have
done
this
a
few
weeks
ago,
a
few
months
ago,
we
might
not
have
another
apartment
complex.
It's
coming
there,
so
I
think
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction
here,
I'd
like
to
give
this
first
reading,
but
there's
certainly
areas
that
we
can
look
for
mixed-use
and
speaking
just
for
myself.
AA
The
reason
why
I
was
so
adamant
that
we
needed
a
vote
down
that
apartment
complex
a
couple
weeks
ago
is
because
it
was
zoned
industrial
and
they
were
gonna,
build
apartments
and
nothing
else.
There's
a
mixed
use
on
that
site.
We
could
have
it.
We
could
have
probably
debated
and
come
to
a
consensus
on,
but
to
take
a
zoning
that
is
industrial
I'm
in
warehousing
I
understand
they
take
Oh
what
could
be
a
warehouse
or
a
business
and
turn
that
dinner
up
completely
an
apartment
complex.
We
shouldn't
do
that
anymore.
A
Y
Y
AF
This
is
the
removal
of
a
portion
of
it,
but
I
do
believe
that
this
is
appropriate
and
I
do
believe
it.
This
is
something
that
is
is
fundamentally
moving
in
the
right
direction.
The
majority
of
the
heavy
and
light
industrial
properties
are
located
in
Keene
hoi
on
Johns
Island
near
the
airport,
which
you're
aware
of
in
the
net.
AF
AF
W
Yes,
thank
you.
I
would
I'm
glad
to
hear
mr.
Griffin
use
the
term
excuse
us.
I
do
think
that
we
are
doing
the
right
thing
by
giving
this
first
reading,
and
hopefully
the
Planning
Commission
will
agree
with
us
and
recommended
back
for
a
second
reading.
I.
Just
think
that
in
the
in
the
way,
that
Charleston
is
attracting
development
that
is
coming
from
outside
of
our
area
in
ways
that
we
haven't
seen
10
years
ago,
that
we
need
to
make
our
zoning
accurate
and
clear.
So
industry
is
industry.
Industrial
is
industrial.
W
I
I
do
totally
agree
that
we
should
be
re-evaluating
our
mixed
use
zones.
That's
the
kind
of
smarter
growth
that
we're
encouraging,
I've
heard
from
I'm
sure
you
all
have
heard
from
the
representatives
of
of
the
growth
and
development
community
that
it's
really
the
the
neck
and
the
upper
peninsula.
That
you
know
is
probably
of
the
most
concern.
Would
we
not
entertain
mixed-use
in
a
place?
That's
going
to
be
the
transition
zone
between
Charleston
and
North
Charleston
and
the
residential
communities
that
we
want
to
preserve
there
and
and
help
to
flourish.
W
AF
U
AF
U
C
Would
say,
I
mean
I,
think
directionally,
you
know
making
adjustments
like
this
is
over
time.
The
right
thing
to
do,
if
you
ever
taking
the
time
to
go
through
the
tables
and
not
even
on
the
city
in
the
county,
is
the
same
way
good
to
the
table
is
that
you
can
do
this.
You
can
do
this.
You
can't
do
this
this
exception.
C
Complex
has
the
right
to
come
and
ask
to
be
rezone,
and
if
this
body
should
choose
to
make
that
rezoning,
because
it's
appropriate,
they
end
up
ultimately
with
exactly
what
they
wanted
to
do.
It
just
gives
us
the
purview
to
say
yes,
the
fact
that's
the
right
thing
to
do
in
a
place
where
it
should
be
done
so
I
think
direction.
We're
heading
right
way
and
I
think
this
sounds
like
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
and
really
the
rest
of
our
zoning
categories.
Thanks
no.
AF
N
N
Know
your
problem
coming
back
with
housing
in
there
and
then
the
disadvantage
that
was
given
to
us.
We
gonna
build
housing
there,
hopefully,
so
that's
why
I'm
gonna
make
sure
this
is
not
gonna
interfere
with
what
you're
gonna
do
it
the
happier
I'm
saying
cuz
we
already
voted
for
that
to
plan
for
that
area
have
been
before
this
was
a
trade-off,
is
giving
up
these
property
to
be
able
to
be
allowable
in
the
affordable
house
in
the
magnetic
project.
N
No,
it's
not
the
magnet
your
project
but
they'd
be
gonna,
be
building
housing
in
that
area,
because
the
lab
was
given
to
us
by
the
company
you
see
because
they
couldn't
is
not
gonna
build
any
affordable
housing
in
there.
So
we
had
them
to
give
us
property
that
they're
gonna
build
our
portable
house.
S
I
agree
with
you.
Mr.
me,
I
see
one
of
the
problems.
If
you
go
from
single
family
to
multi
family,
you
have
to
have
a
public
process
and
go
through
Planning
Commission
and
eventually
Council.
You
go
for
multi
family
to
general
business,
same
thing,
general
business,
the
light
industrial,
heavy
industrial
same
thing.
But
if
you
come
backwards
then
you
have
urn
right
and
you
don't
have
the
public
input
and
the
public
wants
input.
And,
frankly,
we
want
the
public
to
have
input
the
example
out
on
John's
Island,
with
the
property
near
the
airport.
S
Now
that
public
council,
the
Planning
Commission,
certainly
wish
they
were
in
a
position
of
being
able
to
say
yay
or
nay,
but
frankly,
they've
been
in
visit.
They
were
in
a
position
of
having
to
say
yay
I
served
on
the
Planning
Commission
and
there
were
a
number
a
couple
of
times,
not
a
whole
lot
where
we
were
in
that
position
and
it
was
extremely
frustrating
and
you've
got
a
hundred
citizens
wanting
to
have
a
say-so.
What's
gonna
come
next
to
them.
Here
we
are
on
Council.
S
We
wanted
to
have
a
say-so
on
that
we
didn't
even
have
a
chance,
so
this
is
in
part,
gonna
take,
hopefully
gonna
address
part
of
that,
because
if
they
want
to
go
from
light
industrial
to
a
200
unit,
house
subdivision,
everybody
should
have
a
say
so.
The
developer,
Planning
Commission,
the
community
and
certainly
council,
and
that
particular
example
of
the
Belleville
is
the
final
arbiter.
S
Not
the
elected
representatives
are
even
appointed
people
on
the
planet.
Commission
and
that's
the
obsolescence
in
some
aha
ozone
encourage
that
right
now
the
development
community
is
taking
advantage
of
the
ahead
of
us
in
that
respect,
so
we
got
we
plant
a
little
bit
ketchup
and
I
think
we
can
catch
up.
Thank
you.
Mister.
AB
T
I
just
wanted
to
check
on
the
procedure
here.
Well,
we,
if
we
give
this
virtual
reading,
it's
gonna
go
to
Planning
Commission
right,
yes,
sir,
so
why
are
we
sending
something
to
Planning
Commission
that
we
may
not
be
looking
at
light?
Industrial?
Maybe
change
to
mix
use
or
to
have
some
component?
Is
there
I
mean
that
would
have
to
go
to
them?
Also,
wouldn't
it
I
mean?
Should
we
have
this
thing
a
little
bit
more
facade
down
as
to
what
we
want?
T
I
mean
if
everybody's
a
happy
day
to
the
eliminate
such
as
emotion
here,
is
to
eliminate
all
personal
or
a
residential
from
this
thing.
I
think
I
would
probably
both
know
but
I
think
if
you're
gonna
work
it
a
little
bit
to
try
to
work
into
some
kind
of
a
mixed-use
component
or
something
like
that,
then
I
could
probably
agree
with
it.
I
just
don't
think
we
all
just
send
it
as
a
Planning
Commission.
AF
It's
certainly
you
know,
council
y'all
can
do
what
council
wants
to
do
with
this
and
we'll
take
it
to
BC,
in
whatever
form
we
do
intend
to
bring
forward
some
EMU
zoning
districts
that
are
improved
and
are
intended
to
be
used
in
other
parts,
the
city,
just
as
as
customer
Jackson's
now
there's
just
said
the
mayor
said:
that's
something
we
will
be
bringing
forward.
We
don't
have
it
on
hand
right
now.
Of
course,
this
is
just
limited
to
light
industrial
and
heavy
industrial
yeah.
T
That's
what
I'm
saying
if
you're
gonna
do
it
all
the
general
business
and
some
of
those
we
might
learn
some
stuff
that
we
can
apply
I
think
the
heavy
industrial
is
probably
I'm
fine.
With
the
light
industrial
I
see
where
there
might
be
a
component
of
some
some
element
or
some
way
of
getting
residential
use
of
that,
and
maybe
that's
maybe
that's
what
council
wants
to
do
is
just
okay.
You
got
to
come
back,
you
know
just
eliminate
it
all
come
back.
T
Y
V
AC
Can't
arbitrarily
change
the
zoning,
but
as
long
as
there's
a
rational
relationship
for
rational
basis
for
a
decision.
Yes,
you
can
change
the
zoning
if
the
basis
is
that
too
many
light,
industrial
heavy
industrial
properties
are
being
zoned
for
residential
purposes,
as
opposed
to
a
city's
need
for
industrial
or
more
business
uses
than
I.
Certainly,
that's
arrest
radical
basis
for
the
decision,
but
if
I
bought.
V
Y
You
know
the
zoning
isn't
a
title.
Zoning
is
what's
written
into
the
code
and
when
someone
buys
a
property,
they
don't
look
at
the
title.
They
look
at
what
they
actually
have
bought
and
what
they're
entitled
to
when
they
buy
it.
Zoning
is
forever
until
it's
not
we're
changing
zoning,
we're
down
zoning
and
we're
shooting
in
the
dark.
We
don't
know
what
properties
they
are.
We
don't
know
where
they
are.
We
don't
even
know
what
the
future
plan
for
these
properties
is
someone's
gonna
wake
up
tomorrow.
Y
After
we
give
this
first
reading
and
realize
their
property
is
being
rezone
and
in
some
instances
down
zone
we
haven't
posted
it.
We
haven't
done
anything
with
it
and
no
map
of
where
these
properties
are
I
really
worry
about
that,
and
with
all
due
respect
to
our
legal
counsel,
I
mean
we
have
to
have
a
good
and
valid
reason,
not
just
across
the
board,
but
for
every
one
of
those
properties.
Y
Y
Brandenburg
sitting
here
is
serving
on
your
John's
Island
Council,
no
one
in
this
room
if
we
blindfolded
took
them
to
John's
Island
and
stuck
them
on
that
piece
of
property
next
year
for
Rosetta,
it's
light
industrial,
not
a
single
person
put
it
said
this
is
agricultural
or
it
might
be
a
couple
of
houses.
So
we
got
to
really
think
about
this
and
be
careful,
because
this
is
a
lot
of
property
and,
as
you
said,
some
of
those
pieces
of
property
in
the
core.
The
peninsula
are
super
valuable
pieces
of
property.
Y
So
I
applaud
the
efforts
to
get
long-term
planning
and
get
it
under
control.
So
we
don't
have
a
one-off,
like
we
had
next
to
the
airport
on
John's
Island,
which
is
an
unmitigated
problem
for
all.
We
don't
like
it,
but
that
person
had
zoning
rights
and
we
didn't
think
about
so
350
plus
properties
that
tomorrow
gonna
wake
up
and
see
that
we
gave
first
reading
to
a
down
zoning.
That's
a
problem
and
I'll
give
this
first
reading,
so
we
can
get
in
front
of
Planning
Commission,
but
we
gotta
have
a
map.
Y
Anyway,
I've
spoken,
my
piece
I
just
think
we
got
to
be
really
careful
in
this
and
any
other
zoning
going
forward.
Councilmember,
Griffon
sort
of
looked
with
amazement,
stark
amazement.
We
have
44
zoning
categories,
he's
right,
it's
ridiculous
when
I
was
campaigning
last
time,
someone
said
I'll
vote
for
you.
If
you
can
name
every
single
zoning
category,
I.
AB
Y
Not
get
that
vote,
but
you
can't
do
it.
It's
so
complicated
right.
So
so,
mr.
mayor,
it's
not
the
heading
of
the
zoning
that
matters
it's
what's
written
below
it
and
because
we
call
it
light
industrial,
we
all
know
I
mean
you
said
it
duck
goose
duck
here.
Unfortunately,
not
light
industrial
includes
current
entitlements
that
we
are
about
to
change.
So,
let's
proceed
cautiously.
Let's
make
sure
we
let
people
know
about
this.
I
think,
there's
an
appetite
here
for
this
council
to
get
a
handle
of
the
future
of
development.