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From YouTube: City of Charleston City Council Meeting 11/8/22
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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 11/8/22
A
C
The
hour
has
arrived.
I
would
like
to
call
this
November
8th,
2022
meeting
of
the
city
council
of
Charleston
to
order
Madam
clerk.
Would
you
please
call
the
roll
councilmember.
C
E
Father
as
we
come
to
you
tonight
on
this
election
day,
we
thank
you
for
calling
us
and
all
folks
on
the
ballot
to
serve
your
people,
help
us
not
to
seek
power
nor
position
or
rather
make
us
a
vessel
of
your
grace,
grant
us
with
the
wisdom
to
act,
justly
love
mercy
and
welcome
in
your
name.
We
pray,
amen,
amen,
ities,.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
so
we
have
just
a
couple
of
presentations
this
evening.
The
first
is
a
proclamation
recognizing
the
Charleston
Tour
Association.
This
was
requested
by
councilmember
shade,
so
I
would
like
to
invite
the
association
president
Leanne
Bain
and
her
board
members
who
were
here
y'all.
Please
come
forward:
Alex,
Levine,
Broderick,
Kristoff,
John,
mulheron
and
council
member
shade.
If
you
want
to
join
us
up
here
as
well,
come
on
up
right
behind
me
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
this
evening.
C
We
are
so
glad
to
have
you
and
if
I
may,
share
this
here,
Proclamation
and
then
we'll
ask
president
Leanne
if
she'd
like
to
share
any
words
with
us,
whereas
the
Charleston
Tour
Association
was
established
back
in
1997
to
enhance
the
tourism
industry
in
Charleston
and
whereas
coming
from
diverse
fields
of
Tourism
professionals,
the
Charleston
Tour
Association
has
grown
in
membership
from
30
to
approximately
200
members,
since
its
Inception
and
whereas
committed
to
historical
accuracy,
the
Charleston
Tour
Association
is
supported
by
ambassadors.
F
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
Maine
checkler
and
councilman
shade
for
the
proclamation
honoring,
our
25th
anniversary
of
the
Charleston
Tour
Association
and
I
also
want
to
thank
you,
city,
council
members,
for
your
work
on
making
Charleston
and
service
for
working
on
service
and
commitment
to
our
city
and
its
residents
to
those
Hayward
said
it
best.
F
He
said
they
tell
me
she
is
beautiful,
my
city,
that
she
is
colorful
and
quaint
alone
among
the
cities,
but
I
I,
who
have
known
her
tenderness,
her
courage
and
her
pity
have
felt
her
forces
mold
me
mind
and
Bone
Life
After
Life
upon
from
her
first
beginning.
How
can
I
think
of
her
in
wood
and
stone
and
Hayward
was
correct.
Charleston
is
more
than
its
historic
buildings.
The
Charleston
Tour
Association
is
honored
to
be
ambassadors
for
our
wonderful
City.
F
C
G
One
one
point
mayor
talking
to
Spain
earlier
I
did
not
realize
that
she
had
worked
with
Laurie
Yarborough
on
that
issue.
We
had
on
our
real
estate
committee
about
the
artifacts
on
Daniel
Island,
to
show
the
strength
of
the
association.
We
appreciate
you
doing
that
and,
as
you
all
may
have
recalled,
we
had
a
little
lawsuit
filed
against
the
city
that
we
lost
on
regarding
the
permitting
process
of
allowing
our
tour
Gods
to
be
tested.
So
your
Association
goes
in
an
important
Gap.
We
appreciate
what
you
all
said:
Thank
you.
C
All
right
so
next
I'd
like
to
make
a
special
recognition:
Future
Leaders
of
Charleston
or
with
us
and
I'm,
referring
to
Scout
Troop
31
from
Saint
Andrews
Presbyterian
Church.
C
Would
you
all
stand
up
in
the
balcony
and
recognize
our
Scout
and,
and
they
are
so
ably
led
by
Trevor
sheilor,
who
used
to
be
with
and
who
else
we
have
other
leadership
so
nice
to
have
you
all
with
us
this
evening
and
Scouts
y'all
be
prepared
and
continue
your
leadership,
training
and
and
learning
about
City
and
local
government,
because
we
expect
you
to
be
down
here
running
this
place
in
just
a
little.
While.
Thank
you
again
for
being
with
us.
C
All
right,
I
did
want
to
give
a
brief,
update
and
and
Ben
almquist
is
with
us
this
evening.
If
we
have
any
questions
about
a
little
weather
we're
expecting
later
in
the
week,
you
know
everybody's
watching
the
news
and
we
just
want
to
urge
everyone
to
be
be
ready.
C
It's
November
it's
unusual
for
us
to
be
having
a
named
storm,
but
there's
one
out
there.
We
don't
think
the
impacts
will
be
significant,
but
we
don't
want
to
take
a
storm
for
granted
either
we're
certainly
going
to
have
a
plenty
of
rain
and
and
a
little
bit
of
wind,
so
I've
been.
You
want
to
add
anything
to
that.
I
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
Mr
Mayor
evening
Council.
As
the
mayor
said,
we
are
not
anticipating
this
being
a
significant
storm,
probably
less
in
scale
of
impact
than
what
we
saw
from
Hurricane
Ian.
However,
we
are
still
expecting
localized
flooding
standing
water
a
little
bit
more
than
we
normally
get
with
a
heavy
storm.
There
will
be
tropical
storm
force
winds,
some
strong
gusts.
That
always
means
there's
potential
for
tornadoes
to
spend
off.
We
can
lose
power
in
certain
areas.
I
Things
like
that,
so
we
don't
expect
wide
scale
damages
or
anything
like
that,
but
localized
effects
can
impact
our
citizens.
So
we
ask
everybody:
please
prepare
Don't
Panic
if
you
have
an
emergency.
Obviously
contact
9-1-1.
As
far
as
our
operations
go
it'll
be
a
measured
response.
We've
already
made
contact
with
our
key
stakeholders,
making
sure
that
everybody
knows
who
needs
to
be
called
in
the
event
of
an
emergency,
because
obviously
this
is
also
a
holiday
weekend.
I
A
lot
of
people
have
plans,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
coordinated
all
of
that
ahead
of
time.
C
Thank
you,
Ben
any
questions
for
Ben
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
much
I
wanted
to
wish
everyone
a
Happy
election
day.
The
polls
are
still
open
until
seven,
it's
probably
too
late
for
us.
If,
if
we
haven't
voted
because
we
might
be
here
until
then-
maybe
not,
but
it
I
I
must
say:
I
was
I.
C
Hadn't
watched
the
national
news
coverage
that
much
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
because
it's
just
been
so
much
but
I
I
looked
around
the
stations
last
night,
a
bit
and
I
was
reminded
how
how
we
had
the
meeting
this
past
summer
of
the
municipal
Association
of
South
Carolina
and
one
of
their
goals
for
local
government
in
South.
Carolina
is
just
plain
civility,
knowing
that
we
can
disagree
from
time
to
time,
but
we
can
be
agreeable
and
be
respectful
of
one
another.
C
Sometimes
I
don't
see
that
on
the
national
stage,
let's
make
a
further
commitment
to
continue
to
do
that
here
on
the
local
level.
I
think
it
pays
off
in
the
long
run
and
I
wanted
to
wish
everyone
to
note
Veterans
Day,
it's
coming
up.
Friday
regular
city
offices
will
be
closed.
Of
course,
we'll
be
having
some
weather
as
well,
but
regular
offices
will
be
closed
in
requests
and
in
conjunction
with
the
veterans
of
Affairs
Administration.
C
We
had
our
Veterans
Day
Parade,
actually
on
Sunday
a
day
before
yesterday,
which
went
very
well
but
I
do
want
to
promote
participation
in
that
next
year,
for
not
just
our
Council
but
our
citizens
as
well.
Okay.
So
next
we
have
some
one
public
hearing
and
I'm
going
to
ask
Tracy
McKee
to
come
forward.
C
We've
we've
familiar
with
the
ordinance
on
our
reinforcement
plan,
but
since
it's
been
a
few
weeks,
I
thought
you
might
give
us
just
a
reminder
where
we
stand
and
then
we'll
take
any
comments
from
the
public.
Regarding
our
reapportionment
plan,
Tracy.
J
Thank
you
mayor
good
evening.
Everybody
I
will
keep
this
pretty
brief.
J
J
J
So
you
all
probably
know
this
chart
better
than
I
do
even
at
this
point.
But
this
is
our
Baseline
data.
We
know
that
we
had
25
increase
in
population
and
two
of
the
districts
have
a
large
surplus
of
population,
and
so
hence
the
need
for
for
redistricting
tonight.
You
all
are
considering
option
two
in
this
plan.
Obviously
this
we're
not
going
to
go
into
great
detail.
Hopefully
you
guys
are
pretty
familiar
with
this
plan.
J
We've
had
an
interactive
map
up
for
the
public
to
view
and
for
you
all
to
view
for
quite
a
few
weeks
number
of
weeks
now,
if
not
at
least
a
month
or
longer
so,
but
we're
all
familiar
with
what
this
accomplishes.
It
prioritizes
communities
of
interest,
but
it
also
moves
District,
3
from
the
peninsula
to
John's
Island
and
for
a
portion
of
James
Island.
J
This
is
the
table
that
goes
along
with
that.
So
all
the
statistics,
when
we,
when
the
population
is
rebalanced.
J
So,
since
the
last
meeting
we
have
received
some
additional
feedback-
I'm
sorry
I
missed
the
party
last
meeting,
so
I
wasn't
here
to
actually
get
all
that
in
person,
but
I
didn't
want
to
I
did
want
to
respond
to
to
some
of
what
you
all
have
heard.
J
You
know,
30
of
neighborhoods
will
be
represented
by
more
than
one
council
member.
We
all
know.
Are
you
all
very
familiar
that
might
not
be
as
obvious
to
the
public,
but
the
census
blocks.
Don't
follow
neighborhood
boundaries,
so
sometimes
it's
just
absolutely
impossible
for
one
neighborhood
to
be
represented
by
just
one
council
member
and
when
we
look
specifically
at
Maryville
ashleyville.
Currently
they
are
represented
by
three
council
members.
This
plan
reduces
that
number
down
to
two
Representatives.
J
These
are
really
hard
to
see
on
this
on
this
PowerPoint,
so
I
apologize
for
the
the
colors,
but
essentially
what
I
did
is
I
looked
at
taking
the
portion
of
Maryville
ashleyville
that
it's
across
Highway
61
and
actually
including
that
into
District
Seven,
so
it
would
move
from
District
9
into
District
Seven.
J
It
still
doesn't
fully
accomplish
the
whole
neighborhood,
because
there
is
a
little
sliver
of
Maryville
ashleyville,
that's
in
a
larger
census,
block
that
just
can't
move
over
so
so
it
gets
them
almost
into
into
one
Council
district
and
it
has
very
little
impact
on
the
numbers.
You
can
see
that
the
deviation
changes
a
little
bit,
so
the
deviation
becomes
a
little
bit
greater,
but
it's
it's!
It's
not
unreasonable.
J
K
D
Would
you
like
to
set
a
time
limit,
so
the
time
will
be
two
minutes
Sarah
and
I
apologize
if
I
can't
read
the
last
name.
Delene
address
is
Piedmont
Avenue.
D
L
I
got
my
time
back.
Look
at
my
yo
I'm,
starting
now.
Okay,
all
right!
Now,
let's
get
some
water
in
here
with
the
point
of
order
you
the
order
and
the
ordinance.
Now
this
is
a
serious
issue
with
District.
Three
has
no
right.
The
representative
has
no
right
to
make
comment
regarding
changing
the
district
okay.
He
this
is
about
the
representation
of
a
community
from
1970
census.
L
Okay,
this
is
about
the
queries
and
and
number
four
Thomas
Jefferson
located
in
the
state
of
Virginia,
where
African-Americans
not
voted
at
all
in
1790
census.
We
couldn't
vote
at
all
and
the
people
who
was
over
that
was
Charles
courtward
Pinkney
Charles
Pinckney,
John
Rutledge
and
P.S
Butler
from
South
from
South
Carolina.
It
was
offensive
to
have
somebody
play
games
with
our
districts.
L
Department
of
Justice
in
2000,
told
us
they
did
not
consider
infill
development
annexations
and
dealing
with
these
districts,
so
local
zoning
ordinances
led
to
this
problem
of
25
percent.
So
you
created
this
problem.
It
sounded
like
an
arrangement.
You
can't
have
reason
and
federal
policy.
You
can't
arrange
something
through
zoning
policies
to
dilute
my
right
to
vote.
You
can't
do
that,
so
you
should
just
send
it,
as
is
the
Department
of
Justice,
is
not
mentioned
in
this
notice.
This
will
be
referred
to
the
Department
of
Justice.
I,
don't
see
it
at
all
in
there.
L
L
F
M
M
M
M
D
N
Er
with
the
Johns
Island
task
force,
we
encourage
you
to
continue
on
the
path
for
to
adopt
option
two
as
the
redistricting
map
and
that
the
map
take
effect
for
November
2023
election.
The
redistring
process
has
worked
really
well
to
this
point
and
we
hope
to
see
it
to
its
completion.
N
A
Good
evening
I'm
Marcia
Higgins
I'm,
president
of
the
Maryville
ashleyville
neighborhood
association,
and
we
really
appreciate
the
attention
you
gave
to
our
requests.
It's
highly
appreciated,
Mr,
Mayor
and
council
members.
A
The
Maryville
ashleyville
community
is
continue
to
be
concerned
that
we
are
separated
into
two
separate
districts.
Presently
we
are
being
imposed
upon
by
the
city
with
gentrification.
A
Gentrification
is
an
interest
that
we
have,
according
to
the
redistricting
guidelines,.
A
A
According
to
the
history
of
Maryville
ashleyville,
we
Work
Incorporated
as
the
town
of
Maryville
and
1989.
We
had
our
first
mayor.
We
had
a
school,
we
had
a
church,
we
had
a
Board
of
Health.
We
had
everything
that
we
needed
to
operate
a
town.
We
were
we.
A
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
want
to
be
in
the
same
district,
mainly
because
of
our
history.
That's
the
part,
that's
important
to
us,
and
we
do
very
much
appreciate
your
time
and
attention
and
consideration
of
our
requests.
O
Hello,
my
name
is
Peter
Rubino
I
live
on
John's
Island
within
the
city.
District
and
I
also
represent
the
Johns
Island
Council,
so
we
support
option
two
single
District
on
John's
Island.
We
just
support
this,
so
the
council
representation
would
reside
on
John's
Island
and
would
understand
the
following
traffic
and
road
issues
are
planning
and
zoning
and
the
impact
it
has
on
the
island
flooding
as
related
to
or
as
a
result
of
development,
but
also
community.
So
the
person
would
understand
the
needs,
the
desires
and
the
culture
of
the
island.
O
D
And
mayor,
we
did
receive
one
comment
and
that
was
from
Mrs
Higgins.
She
submitted
a
letter
expressing
concerns
that
map
option
number
two
split:
the
neighborhood
into
two
separate
districts.
She
said
that
option
two
map
which
Delight
dilute
the
voting,
strength
of
a
majority
African-American
neighborhood
and
express
concerns
about
gentrification.
D
According
to
criteria
used
for
redistricting,
division
of
neighborhoods
and
communities
of
Interest
should
be
minimized.
She
discussed
the
history
of
the
town
of
Maryville
and
how
the
town's
Charter
was
revoked
by
the
State
Assembly
in
1936,
without
giving
the
mayor
or
town
a
voice
in
the
matter.
She
also
discussed
how
the
Maryville
Community
was
divided
in
1942
when
Highway
61
was
built
through
the
community,
Ashley
Bill
and
Mary
Bill
were
annexed
into
the
city
in
the
early
90s
and
were
currently
divided
into
three
districts.
C
C
I'm
gonna
just
vote,
nay,
because
I
would
have
liked
to
have
considered
the
amendment
to
option
two.
But
the
eyes
have
it.
Council
members.
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
just
in
accordance
with
our
rules,
I
just
want
to
explain
my
vote.
I
agree
with
the
map.
I
think
the
map
we
all
agreed
to
I
think
John's
Island
can
get
what
they've
asked
for
we
gave
it
to
y'all.
I
still
think
that
it's
problematic
for
a
number
of
logistical
reasons
that
we're
not
going
to
put
these
into
effect
until
a
year
from
today,
a
year
from
today,
regardless
of
the
issue
of
John's
Island
being
still
without
a
representative
of
their
choosing.
H
No
hang
on
I
know
that
councilmember
Brady
is
sitting
here
I'm
just
talking
about
what
we're
doing
in
terms
of
mapping
they've
asked
for
their
own
District.
They
want
to
be
populated,
a
grown
District,
that's
not
going
to
happen,
but
think
about
some
of
the
other
logistical
issues.
We
know
that
under
the
map
that
we
just
chose,
two
38
of
the
city
is
going
to
be
in
a
different,
have
a
different
representative.
H
Once
it
goes
into
effect,
half
of
those
districts
can
be
up
for
election
next
November
on
the
day
that
these
maps
go
into
effect.
So
it's
not
just
John's
Island
we're
affecting
all
the
people
out
there
who
not
only
are
not
going
to
know
exactly
what
this
is
doing
for
voting.
What
about
people
who
want
to
sit
on
city
council
and
run
for
it?
What
are
they
going
to
learn
about
when
they're
going
to
be
in
those
districts?
How
are
we
going
to
notify
them
about
that?
H
We
had
lots
of
confusion
about
it
this
time
around
from
the
election
commission
about
districts,
one
and
six
on
the
federal
level
and
where
we
all
were
and
who
was
voting
for
home
I
just
think
we're
creating
ourselves
a
logistical
issue
that
we
could
avoid
if
we
implemented
these
things
in
advance
of
a
year
from
today.
So
that's
my
No
vote.
It's
not
that
I,
don't
think
the
maps
are
good.
I
do
I,
just
think.
H
Logistically
we're
going
to
have
some
issues
and
we're
going
to
have
have
some
real
confusion
across
the
city
about
in
which
district
people
sit
and
whether
or
not
they.
P
I
I
just
wanted
to
address
Ms
Higgins
thought
process,
sure
which
initially
sounds
good,
but.
P
Maryville
estable
has
enjoyed
three
council
members,
and
you
know
this
working
on
behalf
of
its
needs
and
I
can
tell
you
when
you
serve
an
underserved
Community
when
you
walk
in
with
colleagues.
That
knows
the
issues
as
you
do.
It
makes
it
easier
to
bring
service
to
that
Community,
as
opposed
to
being
one
person
trying
to
have
a
have
to
inform
12
others
on
those
small
issues
versus
the
large
issues.
P
I
would
dare
say
if
you
go
back,
it
was
council,
member
of
Lewis
Shaheed
and
myself,
and
when
council
member
saccharin
came
on,
he
picked
the
Baton
up
and
ran
with
it.
Just
like
the
rest
of
us,
you
know,
I
can
remember
all
three
of
us
being
over
in
the
Asheville
area
at
the
now.
What
we
now
know
is
Carl
Richardson
Park
that
we
about
to
cut
the
ribbon
on,
which
is
I,
think
one
of
the
prettiest
Parks.
P
It
still
had
a
lot
of
bricks
around
bushes
and
it
was
unsightly,
but
the
excitement
that
councilman
sachman
and
certainly
councilman
shayad
brought
I
didn't
have
to
encourage
them
there.
It
was
a
team
effect,
a
new
part
of
it
used
to
me.
P
So
you
know
I
understand
that
singular
voice,
but
and
a
group
of
13
you
get
to
a
determining
factor
with
a
seven,
because
the
voting
majority
a
lot
faster
when
you
walk
in
with
three
and
that's
been
my
experience
serving
in
particular
underserved
Community,
when
you
serve
underserved
communities,
they
have
needs,
that's
been
neglected
for
centuries
and
Miss.
Higgins
is
Right,
preserving
that
history
is
utmost
and
you
see
it
in
the
naming
of
the
Carl
Richardson
Park.
P
We
recognize
in
the
Carr
family,
the
Richardson
family
and
throughout
that,
when
that
Park
is
open,
you're
going
to
see
some
of
the
Mayors
being
former
mayors
of
the
township
that
she
referred
to.
The
history
commission
that
the
city
now
has
is
very
protective
of
that.
We've
seen
that
in
this
committee
meeting
so
that
doesn't
follow
a
council
member
or
a
district.
P
It
follows
a
city
supporting
and
recognizing
that
you
know
what
that's
one
of
the
oldest
streets,
Fifth
Avenue
in
the
state
of
South
Carolina
is
right
across
from
the
birthplace
of
South
Carolina.
You
can't
tell
me
when
those
people
landed
at
Charles
Town
that
we
now
know
is
Charlestown
Landing,
that
they
did
not
come
literally
across
the
creek
in
forage
and
hot
plant
on
on
in
the
Maryville
area.
That
we
now
know
is
Maryville
area,
so
that
portion
the
good
part
of
History.
We
don't
keep
it
a
secret.
P
We
now
know
about
it
and
I
just
I,
just
don't
believe
that
that's
going
to
be
forgotten
and
because
you
have
I
wish
we
still
had
three.
Now
we
have
two
council
members
and
it
certainly
won't
be
forgotten
with
two
three
two
one
or
twelve
counting
the
mayor.
There's
13
members
of
this
Council,
so
I
think
I
understand
that,
but
the
reality
of
it
I
would
dare
say
if
you
were
to
go
back
over
the
last
six.
Seven.
P
C
Right
so
councilmember
shade
foreign.
G
G
We're
going
to
see
again
unprecedented
growth
on
the
Outer
Banks
of
West
Ashley.
There
were
several
developments
that
are
in
the
making
with
permits
out
there
in
Long
Savannah,
one
of
the
probably
the
most
significant
one
out
there.
G
The
growth
has
ended
on
John's,
Island
I.
Think
that's
going
to
continue.
What
we're
doing
tonight
is
going
to
stay
with
our
community
for
10
years
and
as
council
member
seeking's
pointed
out
we're
going
to
have
an
election
with
these.
These
new
lines
being
drawn
in
and
some
folks
are
going
to
be
potentially
left
out
if
they
want
to
run
for
a
particular
odd
number
District
seats.
G
G
G
One
of
the
benefits
of
serving
our
city
council
is
that
you
get
to
meet
certain
people
that
you
may
not
have
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
like
Mexicans
and
Diane
Hamilton,
who
are
very
strong
advocates
for
ashleyville
Maryville
I,
never
spent
a
whole
lot
of
time
out
there
until
I
I
served
on
city
council,
and
that
area
is
very
precious
and
it
needs
to
be
protected
and
having
three
council
members
to
show
up
for
neighborhood
association
meetings
was
somewhat
unprecedented
on
on
every
issue.
G
Small
and
large
out
there
and
I
wanted
that
for
John
Valen
I
wanted
John's
Island
to
have
two
or
three
council
members
representing
that
area,
because
I
think
that
the
issues
out
there
are
very
serious
with
the
with
the
growth
that's
coming
out
there
councilmember
Waring
said
One
is
the
Loneliest
Number,
that's
true,
it
really
can
be,
but
that's
where
we're
headed
so
For,
Better
or
Worse
direction.
G
We're
going
into
I
hope
that
we're
when
we
get
the
word
out
to
folks
who
are
interested
in
the
odd
number
of
districts
next
year,
if
they
want
to
run,
make
sure
they
know
where
they
live
and
that
we
don't
run
into
some
kind
of
entanglements.
That
I
think
may
be
coming
down
our
way,
we'll
see,
but
there's
hope
we
just
head
on
off
of
the
past.
Thank
you,
Mr
Bear,
all.
Q
Would
it
be
possible
to
get
some
clarification
on
on
the
timeline?
Again
we
had
the
gentleman
from
Charleston
County
election
committee.
Our
Election
Commission
I
just
want
to
understand
how
how
the
timing
works,
because
council
member
seeking
brought
up
an
interesting
point,
I
mean
the
the
district
Maps
I
would
assume
are
going
to
have
to
take
effect
sometime
prior
to
the
election.
Q
C
R
The
maps
will
be
posted
in
advance
and
according
to
Isaac
Kramer,
when
he
proposed
or
when
he
spoke
to
you
guys
at
the
last
meeting,
I
think
the
date
of
filings
in
August
sometime.
The
maps
will
be
published.
There
will
be
loads
of
communication
coming
from
the
city
about
what
to
expect
and
where
your
district
will
actually
be.
So
if
anyone's
interested
in
running
for
any
particular
District
they'll
know
at
the
time.
R
C
Sir,
but
they
will
have
to
redo
your
voter
registration
cards.
C
And
send
them
to
the
citizens,
I,
don't
know
what
Isaac's
time
frame
would
be
like
on
that.
Do
you
know
I.
H
Remember
seeking
practically
it's
why
I
cast
my
no
vote
is
because
of
what
was
just
brought
up
practically.
That
sounds
great
that
by
the
time
the
filing
comes
around
will
have
somehow
gotten
notice
out
the
people
that
they
may
or
soon
will
live
in
a
district.
That's
going
to
take
effect
on
Election
Day,
but
the
reality
of
the
world
out
there
is
that's
first
off
gives
incumbents
a
huge
Advantage.
Secondly,
who
very
few
people
I
think.
H
Maybe
I
did
this
once,
but
very
few
people
will
file
for
their
seat
on
the
last
day
campaigns
last
especially
next
election
year,
April
May
June,
so
I
mean
we
really
are
putting
people
into
disadvantage
and
look.
I
was
looking
I
mean
district.
One
is
a
perfect
example
in
District
Five.
There
are
two
really
good
examples.
If
you
look
at
the
way,
they're
newly
drawn
they're
representing
a
certain
group
now
but
they'll
be
running
for
a
seat
next
year.
H
That
is
vastly
different
and
I
think
the
biggest
drastic
difference
is
actually
District
Five
because
it
goes
east
and
south,
so
councilmember
Brady
will
be
representing
27
500
running
for
district
of
12
500
people,
of
which
30
percent
are
in
a
newly
drawn
District
Five,
which
takes
effect
on
Election.
It
is
a
crazy
scheme
and
that's
why
I
voted
no
I
think
we
should.
We
can
and
should
do
better.
H
We
ought
to
be
thinking
about
this
this
year
and
if
we
can
somehow
remedy
it,
we
should
because
I
think
when
Isaac
came
and
spoke
with
with
us
last
week,
he
conceded
one
of
the
things
that
was
confusing
to
people
was
when
they
sent
out
those
cards
to
all
of
us
that
we
got
after
the
redistricting
at
every
other
level,
and
people
didn't
realize
who
they
were
or
where
they
were,
what
districts
they
were
on
at
the
county
level.
At
the
state
level,
at
the
national
level,
they
showed
up
to
vote.
H
That's
going
to
go
all
on
all
over
the
place
in
the
odd
number
District
elections
in
2023..
That's
just
going
to
happen
and
we
need
to
do
whatever
we
can
to
get
out
ahead
of
that,
to
give
people
opportunity
to
know
who
they
can
vote
for
and,
more
importantly,
to
run
and
know
where
they're
living
right.
S
Council,
member
Brady-
yes,
thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I
mean
I.
Think
part
of
the
problem
with
that
proposal,
though,
is
that
if
you
implement
the
district
sooner
as
Isaac
had
brought
up,
it
would
have
to
trigger
a
special
election,
because
you
would
have
a
vacant
district,
and
he
had
mentioned
that
with
his
staff
and
their
resources.
S
Trying
to
get
a
special
election
up
to
then
only
have
that
seat
have
to
run
again
in
November
would
be
problematic,
and
so
you
know,
I
appreciate,
Peter
and
John
coming
out
and
yeah
I
mean
I'm
perfectly
capable
of
representing
John's
Island
through
November.
S
You
know
and
that's
the
current
status
quo,
and
so
I
would
rather
keep
the
status
quo
and
let
people
get
their
ducks
in
a
row
that
want
to
run
for
the
new
Johns
Island,
see
let
them
get
the
time.
Let
them
start
talking
to
people,
I
would
I
mean
I,
don't
think,
there's
anyone
in
the
no
on
John's
Island
that
doesn't
know
they're
hitting
their
own
for
the
most
part
city
council
District,
so
that
to
then
have
to
trigger
a
special
election
with
another
election.
S
It
it's
logistically
problematic
and
you
had
the
person
who
oversees
the
voting
for
Charleston
County
say
that
that
was
problematic,
so
I
think
the
original
proposal
to
keep
the
districts
as
they
are
and
move
forward
with
the
new
districts
that
the
election
makes
more
sense.
S
As
long
as
we
can
guarantee
that
the
notices
of
the
change
in
districts
and
everything
goes
out
so
that
people
are
aware
that
they've
had
a
change
in
representation
which
are
your
point
council
member
seekings,
when
I
was
Voting
early
last
year,
the
amount
of
people
that
had
to
be
told
they
were
no
longer
in
congressional
district.
One
was
quite
shocking.
I
mean
I
was
standing
there,
as
as,
as
that
was
going
on,
and
so
but
I
think,
because
we're
on
a
on
a
much
smaller
scale.
S
We
should
be
able
to
remedy
that.
So
thank.
T
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
I,
just
I,
don't
ever
remember
us
discussing
the
timeline
in
which
we
were
going
to
adopt
this
so
council
member
seekings,
I
appreciate
you
bringing
it
up,
but
I.
Also,
you
know
you're.
If
you're
voting,
no
on
the
map
or
just
the
timeline
I
mean.
Are
we
voting
on
the
timeline
tonight
or
just
the
map.
C
G
Shade
I
I
just
want
to
make
one
more
point
that,
as
we're
going
through
this
discussion,
when
November
of
next
year
comes
around
these
maps
go
into
effect,
I'll
just
use
Council
memes
as
an
example.
He
is
now
going
to
be
representing
a
section
of
his
district
that
nobody
voted
for
yeah,
because
he
his
district
now
is
going
to
bleed
over
onto
Daniel
Island
nobody
on
Daniel
Island,
who
did
them
so
for
two
years.
G
You
need
to
be
representing
a
district
or
a
portion
of
his
district
in
which
nobody
voted
with
and
I
think
that's
going
to
impact
all
the
other,
even
number
of
districts
on
on
campus.
So
here's
a
problem
that
we
have
not
and
and
I
remember
this
discussion
that
we
had
when
the
numbers
finally
came
out.
We
decided
to
freeze
tag
and
not
do
any
adjustments
whatsoever
and
we
hadn't.
We
had
the
even
number
election
come
up
and
we
decided
not
to
not
to
address
this.
G
So
we've
created
a
mesh
for
ourselves
because
a
lot
of
folks
on
Council
are
going
on.
The
even
particularly
even
number
districts
are
going
to
be
representing
folks
who
never
voted
for
that
and
that's
going
to
change,
maybe
in
two
years,
but
we're
creating
another
constitutional
issue
that
Mr
Clyde
has
been
bringing
up.
I
mean
if
you
listen
to
what
he
was
saying.
Some
of
the
issues
that
we
bring
it
up
is
right
on
point
we're
depriving
people
of
the
ability
to
vote
for
the
representative.
C
So
can
I
entertain
a
motion
for
third
reading.
C
Okay,
any
discussion
we'll
continue
our
discussion
on
the
basis
of
being
ready
to
vote
for
third
reading
council
member
Brady
yeah.
S
No
thank
you.
Mr
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
you.
Councilmember
Shad
I
mean
this
is
a
normal
part
of
redistrating,
so
I'll
just
give
you
an
example
for
myself:
I
was
in
County
councilwoman,
Johnson's
District,
so
I
voted
four
years
ago,
she's
up
for
election
tonight,
but
as
part
of
the
County's
redistricting
I'm,
now
in
councilmember,
Middleton's
district
and
so
I
get
to
vote
two
years
later.
The
same
thing
is
happening
with
my
state
Senate
representation.
So
it's
just
a
natural
part
of
moving
the
lines.
So
it's
not
it's
not
disenfranchising.
S
It's
just
I
mean
it's
a
normal
part
of
you
want
to
minimize
it,
but
this
isn't
like
out
of
the
ordinary.
This
isn't
something
that
is,
you
know
just
occurring
willy-nilly,
so
to
speak,
so
I
would
say
that
we've
tried
to
keep
it
to
the
minimum
of
that
occurring.
But
you
know
I
mean
it's
happened
to
those
of
us
on
Council.
It's
not
like
this
is
just
a
random
or
current,
so
I
would
just
offer
that
response.
S
C
You
councilmember
Greg
I'll,
just
share
when
I
went
in
to
vote
this
morning,
I
showed
my
ID
I
hadn't
moved,
but
I
was
in
a
different
house.
District
State
House
different
District
district
I
was
in
a
different
congressional
district
and
at
some
point
in
the
last
year
or
two
I
guess
those
lines
changed
and
you
know
the
person
I
was
used
to
voting
for,
even
though
they
were
running
for
reelection.
C
You
know
I
couldn't
vote
for
them.
It's
it's
just
as
councilmember
Brady
said
I.
Think
part
of
this
is
just
the
requirement
to
redistrict
every
10
years.
H
C
With
that
I'm
gonna
call
the
vote
for
a
third
reading,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
and
you
pose
same
here.
Thank
you,
the
the
eyes
have
it.
The
motion
carries.
C
Gentlemen,
over
here
are
going
to
make
sure
that
somebody
on
John's
Island
knows
about
their
opportunity
to
run
for
Council
next
year.
Can.
C
No
small
list
great
job
and
involved
many
many
people
and
you
did
a
terrific
job.
Thank
you,
Tracy
I
know
it's
not
easy.
So
next
is
our
approval
of
city
council.
Oh
council,
member
Mitch,.
U
I
would
like
to
thank
Tracy
too
I.
Think
Tracy
and
I
will
be
have
gone
through
the
whole
lot.
So
this
is
this
is
my
third
redistricting,
the
third
one
and
I
went
through
the
first
one
and
I'm.
The
only
one
here
I
think
have
even
had
to
get
a
left
Council
because
of
the
same
thing
that
councilman
Sacramento
is
doing.
I
just
bought
out
and
I
stayed
home.
I
stayed
didn't
run
because
my
district
was
merged
with
a
novel
district
and
they
create
District
2
West
Ashley,
that's
right.
U
U
If
you
look,
if
you
drive
around
the
city
of
Charleston,
all
on
the
east
side,
consider
the
east
side
of
the
city
of
Charleston
look
at
the
development,
that's
not
even
on
these
books
yet
but
it'll
be
on
the
books
by
next
year.
So
all
those
people
are
going
to
be
in
that
area
that
I
have
to
represent.
U
So
this
is
what's
happening
and
how
are
you
going
to
stop
it
you're
not
going
to
put
a
git
up
and
stop
the
view
from
coming
in
the
City
of
Charleston,
so
it's
gonna,
it's
gonna
be
terrible.
It's
going
to
be
a
whole
lot
so
that,
right
now
with
the
numbers
that
you
have
that
we're
going
to
have
now,
that's
not
even
going
to
cut
it,
but
they're
redistricting
and
with
the
population
that's
changing
and
with
the
development
that's
happening.
U
12
500
is
not
going
to
even
touch,
but
you
have
you're
going
to
even
have
50
or
20
000
people
in
your
District.
So
it's
going
to
change,
you
know,
so
you
just
have
to
you
just
have
to
bear
with
it
and
it
took
the
justice
department.
The
justice
department
is
not
involved
in
this,
like
it
used
to
be
anymore.
It's
a
change,
that's
right!
So
we
have.
C
C
Council
minutes
from
October
11th
and
he
changes
addictions
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
the
opposey
eyes
have
it.
Next.
Is
our
citizens
participation
period,
Madam,
Clark.
D
L
Under
parliamentary
rules
of
procedure,
I
want
to
show
my
respect
to
Mr
sackery,
but
the
rules
of
the
rules
and
the
administration
of
the
procedure,
Act
is,
is
notice,
procedure,
public
hearing,
effective
date
and
judicial
review,
and
so
that's
what
we
that's.
What
we're
talking
about
here,
not
about
race
that
question's
been
answered
in
1970.
L
in
terms
of
red
line
and
insurance,
redlining,
banking,
redliner,
hedge
funds,
the
lack
of
access
to
Capital-
that's
been
done
to
black
folks
since
1970,
so
this
has
been
done
for
us.
You
couldn't
go
to
the
bank
and
get
any
money
and
you
renovate
our
houses.
You
know
we're
a
red
line
out
of
that.
That's
why
we
suffering
this
economic
appalling
grievance.
But
the
real
question
is
I:
did
rule
26
of
your
court
and
protest
as
a
layperson,
because,
with
this
will
come
poor
black
people,
they
won't
get
a
jury
trial.
L
The
trials
will
be
when
you
got
the
census.
Your
your
convictions
are
based
upon
the
jury,
your
peers,
and
if
your
peers,
don't
know
who
you
are
don't
know
what
school
you
went
to,
we
don't
know
your
family.
They
will
prosecute
you
and
persecute
you
in
most
cases
we're
down
to
some
serious
things.
40
percent
of
the
state
people
are
earn
income
credit.
L
They
cannot
afford
an
attorney
and
therefore
many
of
them
will
suffer
because
of
this
growth,
because
it's
Economic
Development
and
then
you
have
all
the
documents
you've
got
you're
going
to
be
placing
both
of
us
get
to
the
Department
of
Justice.
What
happened
to
the
county
jail,
the
Biden
Administration,
a
lot
of
African-American
male
to
be
destroyed
to
be
destroyed.
L
So
for
me,
that's
the
the
premise:
I
live
my
life
in
Charleston
County
now
and
if
something
happens
to
me,
the
justice
department
will
say
it's
justifiable
use
of
force
based
upon
what
happened
at
the
county
jail
last
Tuesday
when
the
body
Ministry
ruled
against
the
young
brother
and
his
family.
That's
what
I
think
about
every
day
of
my
life
in
Charleston.
Now
that
force
can
be
used
against
me
at
any
time,
and
I
can
go
to
court
and
nothing
happens
time.
M
Our
problem
in
this
city
again
is
not
racism.
Racism
is
dead,
it
was
executed
in
1975,
but
he
now
worth
doing
Muhammad
and
it
was
buried
and
2008
when
an
African
came
from
a
African,
marital
a
European
and
a
baby
was
born
and
the
baby
became
the
president
of
the
United
States
of
America.
M
M
B
B
Hello,
as
we
come
up
on
Veterans
Day
mayor,
how
do
you
square
up
the
fact
that
you
basically
disenfranchised
three
disabled
veterans
at
the
corner
of
barting
tree?
The
roadblocks
are
illegal
as
soon
as
I
called
Ross
Appel
and
said:
hey,
we
got
a
problem
here.
He
immediately
went
into
overdrive,
contacting
all
the
appropriate
committees
within
Charleston
to
make
sure
that
nobody
did
anything.
Nobody
made
a
move
and
by
April
the
mayor
said
good
job.
That
was
before
any
data
was
collected.
Any
speeding
dab.
B
You
don't
even
know
how
many
cars
are
on
the
road
you
do
now,
because
you
didn't
have
the
time.
You
knew
how
many
cars
were
on
the
other
side
of
the
neighborhood,
hardly
any
with
two
Speeders:
that's
it.
I've
got
40
speeders
in
a
three-day
period,
two
of
them
going
over
45
miles
an
hour
in
a
25
mile,
an
hour.
Zone
I've
got
eight
times
the
amount
of
traffic
and-
and
nothing
has
been
done
so
as
you're
high-fiving.
All
these
veterans
and
saying
hey,
we
care
about
you
veterans.
We
appreciate
everything.
B
You've
done
the
sacrifices
you've
made
for
the
community.
What
do
you
think
of
me
and
my
dad
and
my
next
door?
Neighbor
you
just
go
nah,
it's
an
acceptable
loss.
We
can
deal
with
it,
but
what
about
rest?
The
council?
Are
you
guys
just
going
to
sit
there
and
let
this
happen
I
mean?
Surely
I've
been
offered?
Nothing,
not
one
single
copyright,
one
idea,
one
solution:
the
solution
is
status
quo,
illegal
blockade
and
it
is
illegal
because
it
takes.
D
B
D
Then
we
did
receive
a
few
comments:
Stephanie
Mari,
Vanessa,
Denny
and
Jennifer
alfons
spoke
against
the
rezoning
on
Southwick
Drive,
citing
the
danger
of
the
Maybank
Southwick
intersection
and
said
steps
should
be
taken
to
ensure
residents
safety
at
the
intersection.
They
also
expressed
concerns
about
flooding
and
asked
if
the
developer
proposed
underground
storage
of
storm
water
they're
also
concerned
that
it
would
make
congestion
and
traffic
on
John's
Island
worse
during
high
volume
times
of
the
day,
and
just
so
everyone
knows.
This
is
actually
an
item
going
before
the
Planning
Commission.
D
D
D
H
Of
covid
we've
allowed
people
to
call
in
or
write
in
their
comments,
but
are
we
allowing
people
to
do
two
or
how
about
all
three?
You
can
make
a
presentation
here.
You
can
have
your
comments
read
and
you
can
run
and
call
in
and
go
three
for
three
I
mean
I.
Just
think
I
think
you
get
one
bite
of
the
Apple,
not
two
or
three,
but
that's
I.
Think
that's
up
to
you
to
rule
Mr
Mayor.
S
And
thank
you.
Councilman
I
was
actually
going
to
ask
the
same
thing
because
the
at
least
the
concept
as
as
I
understand
it
is
that
you
have
an
audience
before
council
is
the
idea
by
having
people
come
up
and
speak
so
being
able
to
distribute
the
online
comments
beforehand.
If
people
did
want
to
submit
comments,
I
don't
see
anything
wrong
with
it,
but
reading
them
into
the
record.
S
I
do
agree
with
councilmember
C
Kings
is
they're,
essentially
getting
more
time
before
Council,
when
the
idea
is
that
we're
allowing
equal
time
for
people
to
have
an
audience
before
us,
because,
as
we've
we've
tried
to
remind
people,
this
is
a
public
meeting.
But
this
is
not
a
meeting
of
the
public,
and
so
you
know
they
deserve
to
be
able
to
come
and
speak
their
mind
about
any
issue
that
they
want,
but
being
able
to
take
more
time
than
others.
C
Move
forward,
understood
and
I
must
admit
the
thought
that
occurred
to
me
this
evening
before
you
mentioned
it,
but
my
my
general
inclination
is
to
be
give
everyone
the
opportunity
but
I,
but
I
understand
your
point.
I'll
take
that
in
consideration
future
meetings.
Yes,
sir,
thank.
V
V
You
find
out
days
before
the
council
meeting
whether
they've
decided
to
grant
the
request.
You
have
to
specify
an
agenda
item
that
you
want
to
speak
to
and
it
has
to
be
approved,
and
so
I
just
thought
that
was
the
craziest
thing.
I'd
ever
heard
the
process.
The
process
varies
wildly
from
jurisdiction
to
jurisdiction.
I
would
say:
Charleston
is
extraordinarily
generous
in
the
way
that
we've
gone
about
our
business,
but
I.
Think
councilman
seekings
raises
a
good
point
and
I
think
that
there's
been
some
gamesmanship
with
the
public
comment
process.
V
Specifically
the
the
written
public
comments,
people
issuing
the
same
comments
under
different
names
and
aliases
and
stuff.
It's
just
maybe
there's
a
way
we
can
tighten
it
up
while
making
sure.
Of
course,
everybody
has
the
opportunity
to
have
their
say,
and
you
know
we
all
have
email
addresses
that
are
public
people
can
reach
out
to
us
with
written
comments
anytime
they're
like
thank
you.
C
All
right,
thank
you.
That's
the
end
of
our
citizens
participation
period
this
evening.
There
are
no
petitions
and
Communications
from
from
the
administration.
We
do
have
two
Council
Communications
requests.
The
first
is
from
council
member
shade
a
discussion
to
amend
section
256
of
city
code
to
include
that
the
responsibilities
of
Public,
Safety
Committee
will
include
the
review
of
pending
litigation
involving
the
city
council,
member
Shea.
G
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
and
I've
had
some
discussions
with
our
legal
department
about
this
and
I
I.
Don't
want
to
go
into
anything
that
we'll
discuss
an
executive
session,
but
several
Council
meetings
ago
we
were
brought
in
the
executive
session
to
discuss
opinion
litigation.
I
dare
say
that
most
of
us
were
unaware
of
that
pitting
litigation
until
we
we
walked
into
executive
session,
which
was
a
very
significant
matter.
G
That's
pending
before
us,
so
I
and
I
knew
that
some
other
council
members
were
aware
of
that,
because
they
had
engaged
in
some
other
issues
involving
that
particular
matter
and
I'm.
Not
asking
that
Council
be
made
aware
of
all
pinning
litigations,
I'm
sure,
there's
a
bunch
of
things
out
there
about
workers,
compensation
matters
or
a
slip
and
fall,
but
when
it
comes
to
something,
that's
major
is
what
we
discuss
some
Advance
information
about
it.
G
It
goes
a
long
way
in
helping
us
make
decisions
when
at
least
certain
members
of
Council
of
a
particular
committee
are
given
Advanced
updates
as
to
that
law
has
been
filed
where
it
stands
in
that
proceeding
where
it's
heading
and
what
does
the
potential
resolution
of
that
particular
lawsuit,
I
and
I,
don't
know
if
it
should
fall
into
public
safety
or
to
another
committee,
but
I
thought
it
was
worth
some
discussion
at
least
to
have
some
process
in
which,
when
a
lawsuit
of
a
major
significance
is
brought
against
the
city,
that's
we
have
some.
C
All
right
would
anybody
like
to
comment.
I
I
would
just
councilman
shade
comment
that
you
know
we
we
get
lawsuits
on
various
topics
and
and
some
are
applicable
to
one
committee
and
some
are
applicable
to
others.
So
you
know
we.
We
try
on
the
advice
of
Corporation
Council,
to
to
update
the
council
as
a
whole
on
on
matters
that
are
significant
when
there's
particularly
when
there's
a
milestone,
that's
that's
appropriate
to
give
an
update,
I,
I,
normally
I.
C
Think
almost
always
when,
when
Corporation
Council
asks
that
an
update
be
given
to
council,
we
schedule
executive
session
or
for
Open
Session
as
the
as
might
be
appropriate
to
to
advise
counsel
as
a
whole,
as
opposed
to
a
subgroup
committee.
So
that's
been
our
modus
operandi,
I,
I,
I
personally
think
it's!
It's
worked
pretty
well
there.
C
There
are
some
occasions,
I
guess
where,
where
there
hadn't
been
any
notable
Milestones
to
updates
all
on
and
I
didn't
get
a
request
from
from
Council
to
to
share
with
y'all,
so
my
preference
would
be
to
do
it
to
counsel
as
a
whole
as
to
one
particular
committee,
but
it
showed
some
preference
council
member
Greg.
Thank.
Q
You
Mr
Mayor
how
many
items
of
pending
litigation
are
before
the
city
right
now.
Do
we
have
a
rough
idea.
Q
Ways
I
I
I'm
new
at
this.
Do
you
count.
Q
M
G
Not
interested
to
go
on
variety
lotions,
but
the
lawsuit
that
we
were
discussing
was
on
a
garden
variety.
Well,
I
said
it
was
a
major
lawsuit
and
I.
Don't
know
one
thing
that
was
not
brought
up
in
our
audit
report
that
I,
don't
maybe
somebody
can
correct
me
on
this,
but
in
our
Auto
report
that
was
uneven,
brought
up
in
the
audit
report
and
when
I
was
involved
in
a
corporation
and
representing
them
as
general
counsel,
pending
litigation
went
into
the
audit
report.
G
That
was
a
very
important
part
of
an
audit
knowing
what
was
hanging
out
there,
because
that
could
impact
the
bottom
line
of
any
Corporation.
So
I
don't
remember
that
being
included,
but
it's
certainly
could
impact
of
financial
stability
of
of
an
organization
I
don't
want
to
know
the
157
cases
that
are
out
there.
This
is
the
last
thing
I
want
to
have
there's
something.
That's
significant
certainly
needs
to
be
made
aware
before
we
were
called
upon
to
make
a
decision
as
to
how
that
matter
should
be
resolved,
that
that
was
my
main
concern
with
that.
G
C
I'll
share
a
little
anecdote
with
you.
If
you
don't
mind
when
I
got
elected
in
2015,
mayor
Riley
was
very
kind
to
schedule.
A
number
of
meetings
with
me
to
give
me
updates
on
various
Affairs
of
the
city.
What
was
going
on
project
and
so
forth
and
or
we'd
had
about
four
or
five
meetings
and
I
thought
we
were
done,
I
mean
he
they
were,
they
were
pretty
lengthy
and
and
pretty
thorough,
updates
and
and
I
was
getting
ready
to
leave
and
it
was
getting
close
to
time
to
getting
sworn
in.
C
He
said,
John
we've
got
to
schedule,
one
more
meeting
and
I
was
like
what
what
else
could
there
possibly
possibly
be?
He
said
we
got
to
talk
about
the
lawsuits.
C
I
mean
as
as
now
at
that
point
there
was
a
long
list
of
them
and,
and
anyway
it's
appropriate
that
we
update
y'all
and
we
can
do
a
better
job.
We
will
council
member
Appel.
V
I'll,
just
real
briefly
respond
to
the
audit
since
I'm
chair
of
that
committee
and
I've
got
some
familiarity
with
this.
There
is
a
section
in
our
audit
that
talks
about
pending
and
threatened
litigation
when
you're
outside
Council
representing
a
local
government.
You
receive
a
letter
from
the
Auditors
requesting
an
update,
I've
written
response.
Letters
for
the
local
governments
I
represent
I,
have
no
doubt
that
young
Clement
received
a
letter
and
probably
had
an
unbelievable
response
and
thorough
detailed
letter.
P
Says
that
certainly
understand
both
sides,
but
I
think
I
want
to
speak
for
myself,
I
think
when
the
city
is
involved,
potentially
with
something
that
goes
into
multi-millions
or
tens,
potentially
tens
of
millions
of
dollars.
Certainly
I
think
councils
should
know
about
it
prior
to
talking
settlement.
P
I
think
that's,
maybe
with
councilman
Shaheed
is
talking
about,
because
if
the
city
is
at
risk,
potentially
as
I
said
for
multi-millions,
and
particularly
you
get
into
the
tens
of
millions
who
wants
to
find
that
out
at
the
LA
at
the
11th
hour
and
and
that's
the
portion
that
we
talked
about
now,
a
couple
of
lawsuits
that
are
in
that
category
that
Mr
Mayor,
we
have
been
informed
about
on
the
front
end
and
one
that
saw
in
the
past
now
it's
in
the
obviously
public
rails
settled
and
all
of
that.
P
But
look
at
council's
involvement
with
the
Sergeant
Jackson.
Well,
I
should
say
the
Jasper.
No,
you
know
it's
called
a
Jasper,
you
know,
so
that
was
a
continuation
from
mayor
Rally's
time
and,
and
certainly
you
didn't
close
it
off
during
your
period
of
time,
but
I
think
one
or
two
May
slip
through
the
cracks.
P
I
think
it's
those
one
or
two
that
slips
through
the
crack
so
sometimes
frankly
the
benefits
they
have
in
all
this
intellect
on
counseling
I'll
accept
myself
out
of
it,
but
sometimes
I
I
like
to
hear
some
of
the
responses
from
some
of
the
people
around
the
table
in
executive
session.
P
Some
of
y'all
don't
realize
what
y'all
missing
out
on
I'm
just
kidding
but
I,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
multi-millions
and
the
tens
of
potentially
taxpayers
being
on
the
hooks
for
tens
of
millions
of
dollars,
like
councils,
should
be
informed
well
in
advance
of
potential
sediment
talks.
Thank.
T
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
Julia,
pretty
much
answered
my
question,
but
I
guess
I
will
just
throw
something
out
here,
since
obviously
this
is
something
I've
brought
up
before
in
the
past
as
well
again,
this
just
goes
back
to
I
think
our
form
of
government-
and
you
know
what
your
administrative
you
know,
that's
what
was
told
to
me
as
far
as
certain
litigation
case,
that
you
know,
pending
litigation
lawsuits
things
like
that,
the
mayor
does
have
ultimate
Authority
on
some
items.
So
I
don't
know.
G
G
G
G
But
you
you've
got
to
have
the
chief
executive
officer,
Leading
The
Way,
with
this
I'm,
not
trying
to
change
that.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
when
it
when
we
as
decision
makers,
have
to
make
a
decision,
I
just
have
a
little
more
advanced
warning
before
having
to
make
that
call.
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
accomplish.
C
C
Yes,
it
might
have
happened
recently,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
Council
that
everyone
is
informed
when
any
kind
of
other
than
a
tort
claim
that
everybody's
notified
just
initial
awareness
of
any
suit
and
then
I
I
think
there's
some
threshold
where,
if
there's
a
sen,
any
sense
that
there's
real
economic
exposure
that
that
we
keep
Council
updated
and
and
give
them
an
update
with
each
and
every
Milestone
I
think
that's
very
reasonable
request,
and
we
will
do
that.
C
Thank
you
all
right.
So
the
next
one
is
a
also
requested
by
councilmember.
Shade
is
a
discussion
about
returning
to
in-person
committee
meetings,
council,
member
Shea.
Thank
you.
G
Mr
Mayor
and
I
I've
been
on
Council
since
2016,
and
we
were
crammed
downstairs
into
that
conference.
Room
for
several
committee
meetings
and
as
a
president
was
I
had
to
come
back
and
forth
through
those
various
meetings
of
people
how
to
travel
to
do
that.
It
had
a
very
impactful
effect
on
how
we
connected
our
committee
meetings.
We
had
a
budget
at
how
committee
meeting
last
week
that
lasted
three
hours.
G
We
were
all
scattered
in
our
different
homes.
Our
offices,
our
Sometimes.
Some
people
want
some
cars,
I
think
at
some
point
or
another
I
understand
the
convenience
of
doing
this
remotely
you're,
not
traveling,
downtown
to
Broad
Street,
trying
to
find
a
parking
spot,
but
our
Collective
wisdom
and
that's
our
responsibility
as
members
of
council,
is
to
meet
and
use
our
Collective
experiences,
our
Collective
wisdom
and
our
Collective
discussions.
G
You
can
you
can
do
that
to
sanitize
when
we
meet
on
a
on
a
digital
platform.
It's
not
the
same
impact
that
we
have
we're
doing
it
out
of
convenience
and,
let's
just
be
very
honest
with
one
another
and
councilman
Lewis
brought
this
point
up
early
on
before
covet
hit
and
we
got
elected
to
serve
the
people
of
our
of
our
districts
to
serve
the
City
of
Charleston.
It
is
inconvenient,
sometimes
it's
inconvenient.
That's
too
too
bad.
G
If
you,
if
you
want
to
do
something,
that's
inconvenient,
then
don't
run
for
office,
because
you've
got
to
travel
and
do
some
some
things
that
that
you
may
not
like
wanting
to
do
I
think
our
meetings
can
be
more
effective
and
we're
missing
out
on
a
very
important
component
of
all
this
by
not
sitting
next
to
one
another
than
having
this
discussion
we're
dealing
in
Council.
G
Here
we
are,
and
we
have
our
the
ability
to
have
on
the
time
these
little
sidebar
discussions
that
I
can
pick
up
on
certain
things
that
I
didn't
think
about
from
councilman
about
I
mean
pointed
out
because
he
pointed
out
to
me,
but
I
think
that
we're
losing
something
very,
very
important
to
the
deliberative
process
on
these
committee
meetings.
If
we
continue
to
hide
these
things
remotely,
we
need
to
move
back
to
where
we
were
before.
Covenant
came
in.
S
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
and
I
definitely
appreciate
that
we're
back
here
in
council
chambers,
meeting
in
person
and
everyone's
just
not
a
square
on
my
computer.
However
I
would
say
and
I
know
I'm,
not
the
only
one
where
I
travel
for
work,
a
decent
bid.
I
have
a
Statewide
responsibility,
so
I'm
on
the
road.
S
So
when
we're
meeting
in
alternate
weeks
for
like
traffic
and
transportation
being
able
to
meet
via
electronic
means
gives
me
the
ability
to
do
that,
I
know
I'm,
not
the
only
one
I
know:
councilmember
Greg
travels
for
work
as
well,
but
I
would
say
that
the
the
sidebar
conversations
and
being
able
to
communicate
if
there's
something
on
an
agenda
topic
I
mean
I,
I.
Think
right
now,
there's
no
want
for
doing
that
and
I
get
plenty
of
calls
from.
S
My
colleagues
I
call
plenty
of
my
colleagues
I
text
plenty
of
my
colleagues.
You
know
some
of
us
sit
here
and
text
around
the
table
so
that
we're
not
getting
up.
S
You
know
we
I,
we
don't
have
it
like
Senate
Pages
like
we're
not
having
to
hold
up
a
piece
of
paper,
I
mean,
as
technology
has
changed,
we're
able
to
adapt
and
move
forward
and
I
would
say
for
the
public
being
able
to
have
committee
meetings
electronically
and
being
able
to
broadcast
them
on
YouTube
and
also
to
have
people
participate
during
Zoom
if
they
need
to
in
terms
of
if
we're
having
a
public
hearing
or
anything,
you
know
being
able
to
do
that
from
the
comfort
of
their
office
and
them
not
having
to
take
time
out
of
their
work
day
and
be
able
to
participate.
S
I
think
is
important
and
that's
a
public
service
that
we're
providing
that
increases
the
ability
for
of
the
public
to
participate
with
us
without
having
to
come
downtown
because
I
mean,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
downtown
historically,
because
this
building
is
from
the
early
1800s,
and
this
is
the
historical
seat
of
the
peninsula.
But
Charleston
County
Council
visit
me
downtown
and
they
they
meet
in
North
Charleston.
So
to
think
that
you
have
to
come
downtown
for
everything.
S
Q
Councilmember
Greg
thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
I,
guess
to
carry
on
with
councilman
Brady's
Point
as
we
just
redistricted,
and
we
see
how
fast
the
city
is
growing
and
how
far
away
the
city
is
growing.
West,
Ashley
canehoy.
It
takes
a
long
time
to
get
Downtown
Charleston
off
my
house
an
hour
before
Ways
and
Means
today
and
made
it
about
10
minutes
ahead
of
time.
Q
So
I
think
we
need
to
be
respectful
of
this
growing
city
and
and
the
geographical
challenges
that
creates
for
committee
meetings.
I'm
glad
we
meet
here
in
council
chambers
I
think
it's
a
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
have
time
with
each
other
and
and
have
these
sidebar
conversations.
But
the
committee
meetings
would
be
extremely
burdensome
to
try
to
be
downtown
for
all
of
those.
Q
The
other
point,
I
would
add,
is
that
if,
if
you
don't
work
downtown
and
most
of
us,
don't
you
know
we're
looking
for
diverse
viewpoints,
diverse
people
with
diverse
career
backgrounds
and
and
they
might
not
be
downtown
and
so
I
think
we're
ruling
out
or
we're
preventing
effectively
preventing
what
could
be
really
good
public
servants
running
for
office
by
making
them
come
downtown
for
committee
meetings?
Q
What
what
could
be
three
times
a
week,
I
know
I
couldn't
do
that
with
my
job
if
it
were
for
committee
meetings
so
but
I
understand
the
the
spirit
of
the
request.
I
hope
we
continue
to
meet
here
in
council
chambers
for
city
council,
but
I
I.
Would
you
know
respectfully
hope
that
we
continue
with
left
the
virtual
committee
meetings
council.
E
Member
Bowden
I
was
just
going
to
make
that
exact
same
point.
You
know,
I
think
we
certainly
lose
something
not
meeting
in
person.
I
mean
that's
undeniable,
but
I
think
we'll
get
better
at
sort
of
having
the
sidebar
conversations
by
just
picking
up
the
phone,
but
I
think
more
important
than
what
we're
losing
is
what
we're
gaining,
which
is,
which
is
the
ability
for
not
to
say
that
I'm
terribly
important
around
this
table,
but
but
somebody
in
in
my
position
with
a
you
know
with
a
young
kid
at
home.
E
I
can
do
both
because
I
can
sort
of
telecommute
to
some
of
these
things
and
it
would
not
be
possible
I,
I,
honestly,
wouldn't
want
to
do
it.
If
we
had
to
come
down
here
all
the
time
I
mean
so
you
know
that
that's
that's!
What
having
these
in-person
committee
meetings
down
here
would
would
come
at
the
cost
of
is
people
who
just
are
are.
You
know,
frankly,
stressed
a
little
bit
already.
K
Thank
you
mayor,
just
my
colleagues
that
that
you
know
have
spoken
just
to
add
to
that
I'm,
not
going
to
reiterate
their
comments,
particularly
councilmember,
Bowden
and
and
Councilman
Greg
I
think
I'm
actually
more
prepared
for
meetings,
because
I'm
spending
less
time
in
the
car,
so
I've
got
an
hour
particularly
30
minutes
there
30
minutes
back,
so
I
find
myself
to
be
more
prepared
for
actually
the
committee
meetings
when
I'm
not
having
to
drive
and
I
would
just
ask
you
know:
councilman
Shaheed,
have
you
noticed
a
decrease
in
the
efficacy
of
our
job
over
the
past
two
years?
C
G
I
can't
qualify
that
that
response,
councilman
Sacramento
I,
can
I
can
tell
you
this,
that
being
on
Council
since
2016
and
coming
down
to
these
meetings
and
it-
and
it
was
inconvenient-
I
mean
some
of
us
funeral
lawyers
and
we've
got
schedules
that
we
have
to
juggle,
and
some
of
those
schedules
are
outside
of
our
control.
There's,
usually
a
judge
who's
telling
you
to
show
up
at
a
certain
time
and
judge,
doesn't
care
that
we're
on
city
council.
G
Our
responsibility
is
for
our
client,
so
it
is
a
me
it's
a
burden
to
serve
on
Council,
because
I
have
to
juggle
my
client
schedule,
a
judge's
schedule
and
my
constituent
schedule,
but
I
didn't
run
from
city
council
to
be
convenience
and
the
Commerce
are
all
made
today.
So
listen
to
yourselves
was
I
heard.
The
word
burdensome
and
inconvenience
burdens
have
been
inconvenient.
You
shouldn't
be
on
Council,
I'm
gonna.
Just
be
very
blunt
with
you
about
it.
The
one
thing
that
I
was
warned
about
when
I
started
got
elected
on
Council.
G
Is
your
time
is
no
longer
your
time.
Your
time
is
your
constituent
time.
Our
responsibility
is
number
one
doctor
our
sales,
our
responsibilities
now
to
our
constituents,
because
those
people
who
voted
for
you
could
do
in
the
public
trust
in
the
public
realm
to
say
you
could
have
come
represent
me.
I
spent
a
considerable
amount
of
time
driving
around
my
district
medium-like
constituents
trying
to
find
a
time
to
do
that
because
they
have
issues
and
concerns.
They
want
to
show
me
something
about
something
on
the
street.
G
They
want
to
show
me
something
about
the
trash
being
picked
up:
a
sidewalk,
a
flooding
issue,
a
prime
issue
and
I'd
make
my
time
available
to
to
do
that.
It
is
a
it
is
a
burden
to
be
on
city
council,
but
I
take
that
burden
lightly
and
with
joy,
because
I
I
understand
my
responsibility
now,
maybe
I'm
making
too
big
of
a
deal
out
of
this
I.
Don't
know,
but
I
do
know.
My
experience
on
being
on
to
answer
your
question:
councilman
recycling.
G
My
experience
is
that
when
we
meet
in
person,
I
get
a
lot
more
out
of
that
committee
meeting,
because
I'm
able
to
sit
down
and
talk
to
councilwoman
wearing
before
and
after
councilman
before
or
after
okay
I
was
seeking
before
or
after,
and
we
can
chat
about
that
we're
getting
into
this
mode,
and
maybe
the
answer
to
the
question
that
council,
member,
Greg
and
or
other
members
on
counselors,
let's
start-
and
this
is
going
to
drive
our
crazy
if
I
make
the
suggestion
we
saw
moving
the
count.
G
The
committee
needs
a
location
to
accommodate
from
time
to
time.
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
answer
or
not,
but
we
can.
We
can
include
our
constituents
digitally
because
we
that's
what
we're
doing
right
now.
We're
doing
that
right
now.
Is
the
camera
standing
at
me
right
now,
so
people
who,
who
don't
want
to
come
down
to
Broad
Street,
can
listen
in
on
this
meeting
and
they're
doing
it
right
now
it
should
be
being
recorded.
G
We
can
do
that.
We
have
the
technology
of
doing
that
now.
Did
that
make
it
a
move
of
Burden
for
the
clerk's
office
on
these
committee
meetings?
Maybe
so,
but
at
some
point
in
time
we've
got
to
get
out
of
our
comfort
zone.
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
because
we
have
an
obligation
to
represent
our
constituents.
C
Thank
you,
sir
council
member
Parker,
then
can
I
call
back
on
you
yeah.
T
This
is
an
odd
time
for
me
to
agree
with
you
Council
member
shade
in
my
virtual
bubble,
but
I
do
agree
with
you,
so
I
just
wanted
you
to
know
that
I
do
agree.
I,
think
that
the
in-person
is
is
a
great
option.
I've
always
been
a
proponent
of
that.
So
I
do
agree
with
your
sentiments
here
tonight.
Thank.
K
You
councilmember
sacrament,
thank
you,
mayor,
councilman,
shade,
I'm
I,
understand
you
know,
meetings
like
tonight
and
I.
Don't
think
anyone
on
this
Council
didn't
want
to
get
back
to
normal
operations
and
seeing
folks
I
do
agree
with
you.
There's
things
that
are
said.
There's
looks
on
people's
faces.
You
can
you
can
see
here
in
in
the
chamber.
K
I
just
want
to
make
sure
for
the
record.
This
is
not
about
convenience.
This
is
about
smart,
being
smart,
using
technology
that
exists.
That
we've
seen
exist
to
the
best
of
our
abilities.
Like
I
said
I
can
quantify
because
I
asked
you
to
quantify
it
and
you
didn't
I
can
quantify
for
you
what
an
hour
of
savings
means
to
me.
I
just
held
a
community
meeting
two
weeks
ago
three
weeks
ago
regarding
some
public
safety
issues,
I
spent
that
hour
contacting
Senator
kimson's
office
representative
gillard's
office,
the
state
department,
Department
of
Transportation.
K
That's
what
I
did
in
that
hour
that
I
couldn't
have
done
if
I
was
in
transit,
that
that
resulted
in
50
people
coming
out
to
accounts
to
to
a
community
meeting.
So
when
I
asked
my
constituents
whether
they
thought
that
meeting
was
a
good
use
of
my
time
and
I
can
be
the
best
representative
for
them,
they
will
tell
you
unequivocally
that
was
a
great
meeting
and
we're
going
to
see
some
results
out
of
that.
K
C
Right
any
further
comments,
I
think
it's
good
discussion
take
in
and
Ponder
and
without
further
comment,
we'll
move
along
now
to
our
Council
committee
reports.
First
up
is
our
joint
committee
on
human
resources,
an
ad
hot
budget
advisory
committee
council,
member
Gregory,
is
not
with
us
council
member
shealy.
Do
you
remember
this
meeting
well
enough
to
give
us
a
short
report,
foreign.
W
W
C
That's
right,
the
bottom
line
was
we.
We
discussed
a
lot
of
employee
benefits
and
pay
issues
that
have
all
become
wrapped
up
into
our
budget
for
next
year
and
we'll
be
taking
those
up
specifically
when
we
take
up
the
budget,
all
right
so
I,
don't
think
any
action
is
required
on
this
particular
committee
report.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
though.
Councilmember
Sheila
next
is
our
committee
on
trafficking,
Transportation,
council,
member
Brady,
yep.
S
The
committee
on
traffic
and
transportation
met
on
Tuesday
November
1st
at
4
pm
for
about
10
minutes
item
a
was
deferred
and
we
approved
both
items
B
and
C
unanimously,
which
was
the
first
item,
was
the
amendment
to
the
memorandum
of
agreement
for
computer,
aided
dispatch
for
parking
enforcement,
and
the
second
was
traffic
homing
on
battery
Island.
S
Drive
I
didn't
want
to
thank
councilmember
Parker
for
her
work,
diligently
on
James
Island
working
on
traffic
issues
as
they've
come
up,
and
that
was
noted
during
the
meeting
as
well
and
I,
don't
believe
there
were.
W
C
All
right
can
I
should
we
in
this
case,
since
we
had
an
amendment
to
a
memorandum,
we
can
move
for
its
approval.
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
committee
report
and
we've
got
a
second
any
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
any
opposey
eyes
have
it.
Thank
you,
sir.
Next
up
is
our
Committee
on
Public
Safety,
Council
member
shade.
G
Thank
you,
Mr
Smithy
Committee,
on
Public
Safety
Net
yesterday
afternoon.
The
first
item
on
our
agenda
was
what
was
brought
up
between
the
Ways
and
Means
Committee
report,
which
is
the
approval
to
accept
it
to
2023.
G
J-A-G-O-H-S-Jp
Grant
that
we
previously
discussed
so
to
the
point
that
we
need
to
further
advance
that
I
move
that
we
had
adopt
and
approve
all.
C
Right
and
you
oppose
the
eyes.
G
Haven't
we
then
had
an
update
from
our
wonderful
director
of
turn,
90
Amy
March,
as
you
may
recall,
that
they
changed
the
name
from
Tony
Luther
tutorial
90..
They
have
expanded
their
operation.
They
have
a
office
down
in
Columbia
and
they're
expanding
to
go
into
Greenville
Amy.
He
was
broke
down
on
the
number
of
clients
that
she
has
in
the
Charleston
and
Columbia
office
and
the
progress
that
those
clients
are
making
if
you're
not
familiar
with
this.
G
G
The
number
of
folks
who
are
not
reoffending
is
below
the
national
average
and
just
to
understand
the
component
of
all
this
when
a
person
reoffends
the
expense
of
all
of
that
is
astronomical
because
you
are
rearresting
somebody
bringing
them
back
into
the
system,
turning
back
to
court,
taking
them
out
of
being
a
productive
citizen
of
the
community.
So
this
is
a
huge
benefit
for
the
community,
with
a
huge
benefit
to
the
human
component
of
of
all
of
that,
so
I
just
want
to.
G
We
support
Amy
we've
done
that
from
the
our
Inception
and
I
just
think
to
every
now,
and
then
we
need
to
get
an
update
from
her
and
support
her
even
more
on
the
progress
that
she's
making
nothing
nothing
to
vote
on
with
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
committee.
The
Council
made
aware
of
Amy's
continuing
progress.
We
got
a
report
as
to
the
September
4th
shooting
on
King
Street
Lieutenant,
Matt,
Stanley
and
Captain
Jason
gave
us
an
update
as
to
that
shooting
of
what
occurred.
G
G
There
was
a
shooting
in
which
one
person
was
shot
and
they
were
charged
with
assault
matter
with
intended
to
kill,
attempted
murder,
and
there
were
six
other
innocent
bystanders
who
were
wounded.
They
were
charged
with
assaulted
nature,
the
overlining
theme
with
all
the
society
two
things
the
hour.
This
occurred,
which
was
late
at
night
well,
I,
did
was
on
one
Saturday
to
Sunday
and
the
age
of
the
folks
who
were
out
there.
G
Even
the
victims
were
of
of
young
age
and
all
of
them
not
all
of
them,
but
a
majority
of
the
folks
out
there
have
guns,
there
were
some
people
who
were
suspects
who
were
arrested
or
detained
for
the
questioning
and
they
had
guns
on
them
as
well.
So
what
was
asserting
about
all
of
this
was
the
the
age
of
the
individuals
who
were
congregating
on
King
Street
late
at
night,
the
age
of
these
folks.
G
They
had
guns-
and
this
is
a
continuing
problem-
I
think
councilmember
Mitchell
said
when
he
is
out
there.
This
is
a
usual
World
councilman,
which
I
think.
G
Think
the
word
I
heard
you,
you
say
we
had
to
look
a
very
short
discussion
about
whether
or
not
we
need
to
be
looking
into
a
curfew
being
imposed
out
there.
That
was
a
very
good
discussion
we
had
regarding
that.
G
I
want
to
just
thank
the
Charleston
Police
Department
for
their
wonderful
work
on
the
investigation
of
this
matter
and
they're,
always
very
good
about
the
transparency
of
what
occurred
on
these
shootings,
and
my
concern
was
that
there
was
a
shooting
out
on
King
Street
around
Memorial
Day,
and
then
this
is
around
Labor
Day,
so,
on
the
will
be
considered
the
beginning
of
summer
vacation
the
end
of
summer
vacation.
We
had
these
students
apprentices,
it's
an
ongoing
problem.
Some
of
the
things
that
we
have
in
Polo
so
seem
to
be
working
well.
G
B
C
Right
I
appreciate
that
report.
Next
up
is
our
Committee
on
Public,
Works
and
utilities.
Councilman
Waring.
P
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
Public,
Works
and
utilities
did
meet
on
yesterday.
All
actionable
items
pass
unanimously
heard
from
council
member
appell
on
the
outstanding
work
of
E
representative
stavonakis
demia
Mr
fountain
we're
at
this
certainly
long
overdue.
P
Beyond
that
any
final
words
for
Mr
Appel.
On
that
one.
V
I
I
think
y'all
heard
from
me
enough
on
this
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
chairman
of
Public,
Works
and
utilities.
Meeting
I
wasn't
able
to
attend
yesterday
evening.
Appreciate
you
powering
this
through
I
was
a
little
worried,
might
get
hung
up,
but
I'll
just
use
this
opportunity
again
to
thank
our
stormwater
director,
Matt
Fountain
and
his
whole
team
representative
stabernacus
and,
of
course,
all
of
my
colleagues
around
this
table
and,
of
course,
the
mayor
in
his
office
as
well.
V
For
making
this
happen,
it
really
is
a
great
example
of
storm
water
improvements
in
the
historic
part
of
West
Ashley
in
in
James
Island,
which
is
not
always
easy
to
do.
Thank.
P
Y'all,
the
mayor
came
up
with
suggestion
and
sending
a
thank
you
card
to
representative
stavanaugh,
because
of
which
we
all
have
signs
great
idea:
Mr
Mayor,
with
that
I
move
the
adoption
and
reports.
C
Stand
in
on
Ways
and
Means
council
member
seekings,
we
have
motion
to
approve
any
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
pose
the
eyes.
Have
it
next.
We
have
I
think
five
bills
up
per
second
move.
W
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I've
got
a
question
on
on
number
one.
When
we,
when
you
look
at
this
ordinance,
it
refers
to
the
map
a
and
map
a
has
a
second
group.
W
Let's
see
how
it's
worded.
Excuse
me
just
a
minute,
but
there's
a
second
phase.
That's
what
it
is
on
that
map.
Are.
We
voting
for
two
phases
in
here
I
to
me
the
ordinance
wasn't
very
clear
whether
we're
voting
for
just
phase
one
or
whether
we're
voting
for
phase
one
and
two,
since
it's
mentioned
to
refer
back
to
that
map.
I
would
prefer
myself
that
we
that,
if
we're
going
to
extend
this
and
we're
going
into
another
phase,
that
it
come
back
before
Council
but
I'm,
not
sure
that's
the
way.
The
ordinance
reads
that.
C
Was
my
understanding
and
I
think
it
was
just
for
phase
one,
which
is
the
Canonbury
Elliott
for
our
neighborhood
and
then
before
we
did
any
other
areas
we
would
bring
it
back
to
council.
Is
that
our
legal
counsel's
understanding
as
well?
Okay,.
C
Is
that
good
all
right,
any
other
discussion
on
one
two,
four
or
five
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
Parker.
C
T
C
Got
you
yes,
ma'am.
Thank
you!
So
I
don't
see
any
builds
up
for
first
reading.
They
all
got
deferred
waiting
for
our
redo.
On
the
public
hearings
on
a
number
of
items.
We
do
have
a
request
to
receive
a
legal
update
on
one
of
our
legal
matters.
C
This
is
to
for
two
two
topics:
one
to
receive
legal
update
on
the
10,
Concord
Street
litigation
and
then
also
for
presentation
from
the
Low
Country
land
trust,
and
we
had
a
motion
in
the
second.
All
in
favor
would
go
in
executive
session.
Please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
and
I
think
since
we're
having
a
presentation
that
we'll
just.
C
I
guess
the
council
member
Parker
we'll
need
we'll
need
to
go
into
the
mayor's
office,
so
we
can
use
a
virtual
feature
as
well.
So
if
y'all
would
just
hang
tight
until
we
handled
the
first
issue,
then
we'll
send
out
to
you
to
come
in
for
the
update
great.
L
A
C
You
can
I
call
us
back
to
order.
I
need
one
more
council
member
here
to
have
a
quorum.
All
right
can
I
entertain
a
motion
to
come
out
of
executive
session.
Second,
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
odds
haven't.
Let
the
record
show
that
no
action
was
taken.
While
we
were
in
executive
session
next
regular
meeting
will
be
November
22nd,
and
then
we
have
a
workshop
meeting
again
on
the
28th.
Is
there
anything
else
to
come
before.