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From YouTube: City of Charleston City Council Meeting 8/11/2021
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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 8/11/2021
A
A
Yeah,
so
if
I
may
call
this
special
meeting
of
charleston
city
council
to
order,
madam
clerk,
please
call
the
roll.
C
C
D
C
A
Here
and
I
see
councilmember
griffin
connecting
right
now,
so
he
is
also
present.
A
So
thank
you
for
joining
us.
If
you'd
like
to
join
us
councilmember
mitchell,
please
lead
us
in
a
invocation.
B
D
A
Amen
and
if
you'll
join
me
to
recite
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
F
C
F
E
E
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
based
on
comments
on
our
last
meeting
and
a
request
for
this
one.
Thank
you.
Madam
clerk
did
include
a
citizen's
participation
period
that
we
will
go
ahead
and
do
first.
Madame
clark
did
we
have
anyone
respond
or
want
to
make
any
comments.
B
We
have
two
people
who
have
signed
up
to
speak.
Did
you
want
to
set
a
time
limit.
A
Okay,
well,
since,
since
we
have
the
time,
let's,
let's
allow
a
few
minutes
each-
that
would
be
fine.
H
H
H
H
We
can
see
from
some
examples
in
other
school
districts
around
the
country
where
school
has
already
started
where
they
started
school
with
a
mass
optical
policy
or
the
city
had
a
mass
gospel
policy
and
after
you
know,
as
little
as
four
to
ten
days
and
hundreds
of
positive
cases,
they
wasn't
changed.
So
that's
required
and
just
some
examples.
I'd
like
to
give
you
are
mooresville
north
carolina
summer,
old,
texas,
marion
arkansas
and
clark
county
indiana,
and
we
see
more
and
more
school
districts
and
more
and
more
cities
now
instituting
a
mass
mandate.
H
Once
school
has
started
and
the
cases
have
increased,
so
our
suggestion
is
instead
of
being
reactive
and
waiting
for
the
cases
to
peak
and
increase
once
school
starts.
We
want
to
be
proactive
and
prevent
all
the
cases
the
quarantines
children
losing
days
of
education,
parents
losing
hours
and
days
with
the
workforce
and,
of
course,
spreading
a
very
serious
disease
in
our
community.
H
G
No
problem
so
again,
my
name
is
dr
elizabeth
mack,
I'm
a
board
certified
pediatrician
and
a
pediatric
critical
care
physician
here
in
charleston,
and
I'm
also
a
spokesperson
for
the
american
academy
of
pediatrics
and
currently
serving
as
the
vice
president
of
the
south
carolina
american
academy,
pediatrics
chapter
and
I've
been
caring
for
our
children
with
kobit
and
with
miss
c
for
the
last
year
and
a
half,
and
I
serve
with
great
privilege,
and
you
trust
us
with
the
care
of
your
most
precious
gifts,
and
this
is
of
course,
a
pandemic
of
the
unequal
soviet
is
surging
and,
as
you
know,
the
delta
variant
is
incredibly
contagious
and
my
colleagues
and
I
are
terrified
that
we
are
about
to
step
into
what
we
have
seen
around
the
country
and
even
in
this
state.
G
Just
moments
ago,
kershaw
county
announced
100
children,
positive
and
they've
just
been
in
school
for
a
couple
days:
lots
of
preventable
deaths
around
the
country,
hospitals,
beyond
capacity.
We
have
the
power
to
stop
this.
This
issue
is
akin
to
child
passenger
safety
or
really
any
other
public
health
issue.
We
have
car
seat
laws
to
protect
our
most
vulnerable.
Our
future,
the
science
is
clear:
the
cdc
dhec,
the
american
academy,
pediatrics,
the
south
carolina
pediatric
american
academy,
pediatrics
and
many
others
agree.
G
Additionally,
we
don't
have
herd
immunity
in
our
community
due
to
a
large
percent
of
folks
still
being
unvaccinated,
and
so
we
must
act
accordingly.
Note.
The
science
is
also
clear
that
students
are
not
adversely
affected
by
masking,
not
their
mental
health,
not
their
learning,
not
their
speech
from
an
economic
perspective.
Please
note
that
masking
also
significantly
affects
quarantine
requirements
in
the
k-12
setting
and
as
for
the
cdc,
the
close
contact
definition
excludes
students
who
are
within
three
to
five
feet
of
an
infected
student.
G
If
both
the
infected
student
and
the
exposed
student
correctly
and
consistently
we're
welcoming
math
the
entire
time,
this
means
less
kids
on
quarantine,
more
kids
in
school,
less
parents
scrambling
for
child
care,
less
sick
citizens,
less
kids
in
the
hospital
children
need
to
be
in
math
safely
in
school,
ccsd
beautifully
demonstrated.
This
is
possible
last
year
with
mass
mandates,
and
we
have
an
opportunity
for
courageous
leadership
and
opportunity
to
protect
children.
I
urge
you
to
do
all
in
your
power
to
keep
our
children
safe.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
B
B
Four
people
said
that
charleston
should
follow,
colombia's
lead
and
reinstate
the
mask
mandate
to
protect
children
who
aren't
able
to
be
vaccinated.
Yet
one
person
would
like
to
offer
free
walk-in
appointments
for
coveted
vaccines
at
liberty,
doctors
monday
through
friday,
8
30
to
3
p.m.
At
4,
18
folly,
road
10
people
said
mask
mandates,
said
to
mandate,
masks
and
vaccines
for
all
ages.
12
and
up
three
people
said
government
officials
who
use
their
platform
platform
to
coerce
people
into
making
decisions
they
are
uncomfortable
with
is
immoral.
B
One
person
said
his
children
wore
masks
to
school
and
still
contracted
covet
19
and
would
not
participate
in
wearing
masks.
This
time
around
three
people
said
three
people
strongly
suggested
mask
usage
and
schools
is
not
enough
and
it
should
be
mandated.
Instead,
one
person
demanded
the
city
of
charleston
be
more
forceful
in
controlling
covet
19.
B
A
A
I
know
we
have
a
regular
meeting
next
week,
but
frankly,
that
agenda
is
full,
very
full
and,
and
I
I
thought
that
the
urgency
of
of
of
covet
numbers
going
up
in
our
community,
you
know
dictated
that
we
get
together
and
and
have
a
discussion
about
it,
and
we
have
this
resolution
before
you
tonight
to
consider
before
we
get
there.
I
did
want
to.
A
We
have
a
special
guest
he's
been
with
us
before
dr
michael
sweat
from
medical
university
of
south
carolina
who
could
give
us
an
update
on
the
numbers,
as
he's
been
studying
all
along.
I
want
to
thank
dr
swett
in
advance
for
his
commitment
to
public
health
and
his
partnership
with
the
city
throughout
this
pandemic.
A
His
training
and
expertise
and
public
health
is
beyond
question
and,
and
we
really
appreciate
dr
swett
you're
being
with
us
throughout
this
pandemic,
dr
swett.
I
I
So
I
want
to
start
off
with
the
delta
variant
our
molecular
pathology
laboratory
at
musc.
We're
actually
really
lucky
here
in
charleston
to
have
this
activity
going.
They
do
sequencing
on
positive
test
results.
So
we
have
a
real
wealth
of
information
about
what's
been
happening
with
the
delta
variant,
and
this
graph
here
is
just
a
week
by
week,
breakdown
of
the
different
variants
we've
seen
and
it's
really
striking.
I
The
alpha
variant
was
the
most
prominent
one
that
we
saw
up
until
really
around
the
first
part
of
july,
where
it
just
just
rapidly
took
over.
This
really
is
reflecting
the
high
transmissibility
of
the
delta
variant
up
on
the
upper
right
there.
I
just
have
a
few
numbers.
These
are.
The
r
are
not
numbers
estimated
for
the
different
virus
versions
and
the
original
ancestral
virus
that
we
had.
In
the
beginning,
each
person
was
estimated
to
infect
about
one
and
a
half
or
two
other
people.
I
The
alpha
variant
that
came
in
later
that
went
up
to
three
and
the
delta
variant
is
up
to
five
or
six.
So
it's
a
incredibly
transmissible
variant
that
we
have
it
on
our
hands
right
now.
Just
some
national
maps,
you
know
this
outbreak
really
with
delta
started
in
southern
missouri.
Around
springfield
just
blew
up
incredibly
high
rates
of
infection.
I
There
was
a
geographic
spread
that
was
noted,
moving
down
into
arkansas
and
louisiana
florida
had
a
concurrent
outbreak,
there's
a
real
trend
towards
this
sort
of
coastal
effect
of
high
numbers,
and
this,
I
think,
reflects
some
of
the
seasonality
that
we
saw
last
year
too,
where
the
whole
entire
sort
of
southeast
coast
in
mid-summer
had
a
big
outbreak.
I
We're
now
seeing
hospitalization
rates,
climbing,
there's
some
real
hot
spots,
particularly
around
jacksonville,
and
up
into
missouri
arkansas
louisiana's
having
a
lot
of
concerns
as
well.
These
really
also
correlate
highly
with
vaccination
rates
shown
here.
These
lighter
colored
areas
are
low.
Vaccination
rates
just
honing
in
on
south
carolina.
I
We
in
early
july
just
had
an
explosion
of
cases
in
really
every
coastal
county,
horry
county,
charleston,
county
beaufort,
county
up
and
down
the
coast,
but
it's
shifted
a
bit
we're
now
seeing
another
epicenter
up
in
the
midlands:
around
columbia,
particularly
kershaw,
county,
richland,
lexington
county
and
then
also
this
hot
spot
up
in
myrtle
beach,
horry
county
and
it
just
spills
over
into
north
carolina
as
well,
so
very
high
rates
of
infection
we're
seeing
throughout
the
state
and
some
of
these
hot
spots
in
particular
berkeley,
I'm
sorry,
dorchester
county
is
really
leading
the
pack.
I
It's
had
the
highest
rate
of
new
infections
over
the
past
few
weeks
by
far
in
the
state
and
the
kershaw
county
is
catching
up
quickly.
This
is
just
showing
the
vaccination
rates
here
in
south
carolina
by
county.
We
are
below
the
national
average,
which
is
close
to
50
percent,
fully
vaccinated
and
we're
more
around
41
percent
when
you
just
consider
all
ages
about
50
percent
of
people
18
and
above
in
the
state,
just
looking
at
the
charleston
tri-county
area
quickly.
We
saw
this
original
this
early
surge
last
summer
and
then
over
the
winter.
I
A
really
large
surge
occurred
died
down
to
almost
nothing.
We
were
getting
just
a
few
cases
per
hundred
thousand
per
day.
In
the
first
few
weeks
of
july,
it
was
striking
how
quickly
we
went.
We
climbed
back
up
with
just
incredibly
high
the
highest
rates
of
growth
that
we
had
seen
since
the
inception
of
the
epidemic
and
that
correlated
just
perfectly
with
the
delta
variant
becoming
prominent
here
in
our
area.
We
currently
have
62
cases
per
day
per
100
thousand.
I
We
also
make
estimations
for
what
that
looks
like
for
the
infection
rate
among
people
lacking
immunity,
either
from
vaccination
or
prior
infection,
and
that
number
is
172
cases
per
day.
This
really
is
a
massive
outbreak
occurring
among
people
who
lack
immunity,
and
those
numbers
are
stark,
not
good
test.
Positivity
went
from
below
five
percent
weeks
ago
to
up
to
about
16
17
percent.
I
I
will
say
that
currently,
we
are
not
experiencing
major
stresses
in
the
hospital
I'll
come
back
to
a
few
hospitalization
numbers
in
a
minute,
but
our
icu
is
currently
able
to
handle
the
cases
that
we're
seeing
the
reproductive
numbers
been
going
up
and
down
around
above
one
and
when
it's
above
one
that
means
we
have
growth
occurring.
I
I
do
want
to
just
touch
quickly
on
sort
of
looking
at
what's
shifted
over
time
in
terms
of
immunity
back
in
may,
about
30
percent
of
the
total
population
in
the
tri-county
area
was
fully
vaccinated.
That's
climbed
up
to
43
percent.
Here
in
august,
it's
really
stalled.
I
We've
seen
a
little
bump
in
the
past
few
weeks.
I
think
people
are
reacting
to
the
delta
variants
presence
and
getting
out
and
getting
vaccinated,
but
it's
not
jumping
very
quickly
we're
at
a
at
a
pretty
low
rate
nationally,
and
it's
not
enough
to
contain
this
epidemic
natural
immunity.
We
consider
that
to
be
people,
who've
had
an
infection
in
the
past
seven
months
and
that's
because
there
is
good
data
showing
that
immunity
from
natural
infection
is
pretty
strong
up
to
seven
months.
I
We
just
don't
know
much
about
past
seven
months
based
on
the
available
data,
so
we're
actually
dropping
that
number
down
mostly
because,
as
we
move
through
time,
a
lot
of
the
people
who
got
early
infections
just
aren't
qualifying
in
our
estimates.
But
that
puts
us
at
about
64
or
65
of
people
with
some
sort
of
immunity
we
think
is
viable.
I
One
of
them
is
the
uk
and
it's
a
particularly
good
comparison,
because
they
have
a
comparable
vaccination
rate
to
the
united
states,
although
they
do
have
have
used
different
vaccines
and
different
combinations
and
timing.
They're
they're
about
59
percent
of
people
fully
vaccinated
in
the
uk,
and
they
just
went
through
a
very
heavy
duty,
delta
surge
and,
of
course,
india,
where
this
originated
and
very
low
vaccination
rates.
And
finally,
I
would
just
point
to
springfield
missouri,
which
is
where
the
epicenter
was
originally
here
in
the
u.s
and
they're,
also
now
seeing
declines.
I
So
the
good
news
is
this
does
seem
to
follow
a
similar
pattern
of
prior
waves
that
we
have
had,
which
is
about
a
three
about
a
two
to
three
month:
duration.
Before
the
rates
come
down
prior
to
vaccination,
it's
pretty
clear
that
those
changes
occurred
due
to
people
taking
behavioral
prevention
of
masking
and
avoiding
crowded
indoor
spaces
and
the
other
prevention
techniques
that
we
know,
and
these
we're
really
bad
as
a
society
at
implementing
those
as
the
cases
go
up.
But
when
they
get
high
people
get
concerned
and
cut
back
down
there.
I
Interacting
and
lack
of
mass
use
and
the
numbers
come
down.
So
we're
seeing
the
same
pattern
and
that's
good
news
for
us.
The
other
thing
is
that
many
of
these
curves
that
we
are
seeing
with
delta
are
very
steep.
They
tend
to
climb
incredibly
fast
and
also
seem
to
drop
off
relatively
quickly,
and
it's
likely
due
to
the
high
transmissibility
it
just
gets
in
and
infects
people
rapidly
in
the
vulnerable
population
to
the
point
that
it
saturates
available
people
to
do
that
and
that
combined
with
people
taking
precautions,
brings
those
numbers
down.
I
So
I
do
want
to
say
that
in
the
uk,
they've
been
studying,
they've
really
excellent
surveillance
programs
there
and
they
do.
Some
of
this
is
with
mathematical
modeling.
Using
those
data.
They've
made
recent
estimates
of
the
percentage
of
adults
that
have
coveted
19
antibodies,
which
is
very
similar
to
the
numbers.
I
was
showing
you
before
for
the
charleston
area,
and
these
numbers
are
really
quite
striking
upwards
of
90
to
93
percent
of
people
now
after
this
coveted
wave
having
antibodies
either
from
vaccination
or
natural
infection
from
from
being
infected.
I
So
there
is
there's
people
conjecturing
now
whether
you
know
they're
going
to
perhaps
get
closer
to
herd
immunity
just
because
of
these
large
numbers
of
people
and
we'll
have
to
wait
and
see.
There's
still
some
questions
about
the
veracity
of
those
data,
but
I
think
it's
a
very
compelling
issue.
I
It's
a
sad
way
to
go,
I
want
to
say,
because
people
could
get
immunity
without
going
through
the
very
unpleasant
experience
of
having
covid
without
spreading
it
to
other
people
and
without
the
hospitalization
and
the
pressures
that
brings
on
our
health
system
and
the
mortality
that
we've
seen
where
over
610
000
people
have
died
from
covet
in
the
united
states.
So
we
could
avoid
that
with
vaccinations,
and
it
is
a
shame
that
a
lot
of
people
are
resisting
it.
I
do
want
to
also
just
touch
on
hospitalization
impacts.
I
There's
another
phenomenon
that's
been
picked
up,
which
is
this
is
just.
I
tried
to
line
these
up,
but
this
is
the
epidemic
curve
of
new
infections
that
was
occurring
in
the
uk
and
their
winter
surge.
But
when
this
delta
variant
surge
occurred
recently
the
rate
of
hospitalization
was
much
lower
and
it's
likely
because
they,
as
we
did
here
in
our
country,
prioritize
vaccinations
for
older
people
and
the
uptake
was
quite
high.
We
have
very
high
vaccination
rates
in
the
80
percent
range
in
the
u.s
for
people
over
the
age,
65
and
they're.
I
The
people
who
are
most
likely
to
be
hospitalized,
then
the
most
the
highest
rates
of
infection
now
in
our
area
really
are
among
younger
people.
It's
really
shifted
to
a
younger
population.
The
modal
age
is
somewhere
between
40
and
60..
I
believe
most
infections
are
occurring.
That's
for
hospitalizations.
Most
infections
are
occurring
among
younger
people
than
that,
but
they're
not
as
likely
to
be
hospitalized,
and
those
people
who
were
not
quite
old
enough
to
feel
incentivized
to
get
vaccinated
in
the
40
to
60
range
are
really
surging.
In
our
system.
I
The
older
people
that
we're
seeing,
I
would
add
we
are
seeing
some
people
coming
in,
who
are
older
and
many
of
those
people
have
been
vaccinated.
So
there
are
breakthrough
infections
occurring.
We
do
see
that
more
commonly
among
an
older
population.
They
don't
always
mount
as
strong
of
an
immune
response,
but
I'm
getting
reports
from
our
clinicians
that
many
of
those
patients
are
actually
doing
pretty
well
and
being
discharged.
So
we
are
seeing.
We
are
seeing
some
impact
among
older,
vaccinated
people
as
well
and
then
just
finally
looking
ahead.
I
This
is
the
institute
for
health,
metrics
and
evaluation
model.
It's
a
good
model.
They
tend
to
predict
quite
well
in
the
short
term.
I
I
think
they're
not
as
good
at
predicting
long-term
trends,
but
here
we
are
today-
and
this
is
the
base
estimate
here
for
what
they
predict.
Our
case
rate
would
be.
They
do
note
that
if,
if
people
sort
of
as
has
happened
before
loosen
up
on
their
sort
of
preventative
behaviors
and
engage
in
greater
mobility,
we
could
have
a
higher
rate
and
then
they
make
a
run
of
analyses
looking
at.
I
If
we
had,
you
know
almost
universal
mass
use,
and
it
is
quite
striking
how
impactful
mascules
could
be
if
people
at
a
very
high
rate,
utilize
mask
and
particularly
use
them
properly
and
and
use
high
quality
mass.
There's
a
lot
of
poor
mask
hygiene
out
there,
but
it
could
really
have
a
significant
impact.
I
just
would
say
that
it's
looking
very
much
like
what
we
saw
in
the
winter
in
terms
of
the
numbers
and
the
hospitalization
rates,
mirror
that
as
well.
I
Finally,
here
this
is
just
most
recent
data
I
pulled
on
the
number
of
patients
we're
seeing
in
the
musc
system
across
the
state.
We've
definitely
seen
an
increase
manageable
at
this
point,
as
I
pointed
out
earlier,
icu
bet
utilization
is
really
fine
right
now
and
then
this
just
came
out
from
the
south
carolina
hospital
association,
comparing
the
hospitalization
rate
in
our
last
surge
in
the
winter,
which
was
around
30
percent
of
diagnosed
patients
and
we're
currently
seeing
about
14
of
people
hospitalized.
I
So
that
is
somewhat
perhaps
reflecting
what
we
saw
in
the
uk
data
again,
it's
probably
because
older
people
are
getting
higher
rates
of
vaccination.
I
This
is
we're
not
quite
at
the
peak,
so
we'll
see
where
this
goes,
but
that
is
a
reassuring
sign,
so
just
to
wrap
up
over
90
of
our
new
cases
are
now
from
this
delta
variant.
A
really
rapid
onset
of
that
occurred.
It's
incredibly
transmissible.
I
It
correlated
almost
perfectly
with
our
rapid
increase
in
diagnosed
cases.
Mathematical
models
suggest
a
similar
impact
may
occur
to
our
winter
surge.
It
would
be
estimated
to
occur
sometime
in
september
in
the
coming
months.
There
is
a
lot
of
uncertainty
with
this.
Things
have
changed
delta's
a
little
less
predictable
vaccination
rates
coupled
with
age,
make
this
a
little
bit
challenging
to
to
make
predictions,
but
I
I
think
we're
likely
to
see
a
sort
of
peak
in
september
with
a
drop-off
occurring
population
level.
Immunity
is
really
sub-optimal
right
now
to
keep
this
epidemic
under
control.
I
I
We
need
more
more
data
on
the
durability
of
immunity,
both
from
vaccination
and
natural
infection.
We
are
seeing
a
higher
rate
of
breakthrough
infections
with
delta,
although
it's
not
been
substantial
thus
far,
but
all
eyes
are
on
that
because,
if
that's
the
case,
we're
gonna
need
to
consider
booster
shots
and
tweaking
the
vaccines,
and
then
you
know
expect
increases
to
occur
quickly
and
I
think
also
probably
decline
steeply.
I
Due
to
the
high
transmissibility
and
the
saturation
effects
we're
going
to
see,
you
know
perhaps
we're
going
to
get
closer
to
herd
immunity,
unfortunately
through
this
surge
of
maybe
upcoming
surges
and
then
the
proportion
of
of
cases
hospitalized
right
now
may
be
lower
than
in
the
past,
which
is
a
blessing
and
that's
really
a
testament
to
the
efficacy
of
vaccines
that
keep
keeping
people
out
of
the
hospital.
I
But
it
I
you
know
just
in
addition:
it
is
stressing
hospital
systems
around
the
country.
So
we
are
on
our
highest
alert
to
see,
what's
going
to
happen
and
do
everything
we
can
to.
You
know,
support
prevention.
So
that
terminates
my
presentation
and
I'm
certainly
happy.
A
A
I
don't
see
any
so.
Thank
you
again.
I
thanked
you
in
advance.
I
I
thank
you
in
arrears,
so
you've
been
a
partner
throughout
all
of
this
with
us
and
the
greatest
current
and
expert
information.
So
thank
you,
dr
sweat,
appreciate
it.
Thank.
J
Thank
you
mayor.
Sorry,
I
put
it
up
a
little
late.
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
for
the
presentation,
I
guess
the
one
question
I
have
with
everything
that
we
know
as
we
head
into
the
school
year.
I
mean
that's,
that's
the
reason
for,
for
this
particular
meeting,
based
on
your
professional
experience,
and
you
know
forecasting,
would
you
expect
that
covered
numbers
are
going
to
increase
as
students
go
back
to
school.
I
Yeah,
it's
a
complicated
question.
It's
a
bit
of
a
complicated
answer.
Yes,
I
do.
If
mask
use
is
not
in
place.
I
do
think
we
would
see
it's
just
a
fact
that
they
protect
people
and
covet
is
out
there
and
delta
is
very
transmissible.
I'll.
Tell
you
this
in
israel
when
they,
they
have
very
high
vaccination
rates
there
and
not
the
same
as
here,
not
among
children,
and
they
went
back
into
a
lot
of
restrictions
and
it
was
driven
by
large
outbreaks
that
occurred
in
unmasked.
I
Kids
in
schools,
there's
also
some
very
strong
data
coming
out
of
north
carolina,
looking
at
mass
queues
and
its
efficacy,
and
I
think
what
we've
learned
over
the
past
year
and
has
been
looked
at
extensively.
Is
schools
really
can
manage
this,
and
it's
really
important
for
school,
for
kids
to
be
in
school?
There's
a
lot
of
damage
to
kids
to
not
being
in
school
and
trying
to
you
know,
study
and
learn
at
home.
I
They
miss
out
on
this
a
lot
of
social
interaction
and
it's
hard
for
them
to
maintain
attention.
There's
just
many
studies
showing
this,
but
it's
also
been
shown
that
if
you
know
protocols
are
followed
and
and
schools
are
very
institutionalized
settings,
so
it's
easier
to
implement
those.
I
They
actually
have
managed
it
quite
well
with
low
rates
of
transmission,
but
that
was
under
the
scenarios
where
there
was
consistent
mass
use
universally
in
school
setting.
So
you
know
how
high
that
will
go.
We
don't
know
again
delta's
it's
a
new
animal.
It's
a
lot
of
unpredictability.
I
We
were
hearing
from
some
pediatricians
about
what
they're
seeing
day
to
day
and
we
are
seeing
a
fair
number
of
teens
and
some
pediatric
cases.
Miss
c
is
a
real
concern
and
growing.
So
all
things
said
and
done.
I
I
think
I
would
personally
based
on
my
experience
and
what
I've
studied
and
read
and
think
that
massachusetts
is
a
good
strategy
to
go
forward
with.
A
Thank
you,
sir.
Any
other
questions,
so
thank
you,
dr
swett,
and,
and
thank
you
again,
council
members
for
coming
together
to
hear
this
latest
update
and
consider
resolution
this
evening.
A
I
don't
think
this
is
an
exaggeration
this
this.
This
is
real
and
it's
it's
clear
from
from
the
cdc
from
from
the
dhec
from
our
healthcare
partners
and
professionals
that
that
vaccination
is
a
first
line
of
defense,
but
that
masking
would
be
the
second
line
of
defense.
A
We
have
for
your
consideration,
a
resolution
tonight
to
to
urge
all
our
citizens
children
over
to
to
wear
mass
in
school,
starting
next
week
when
they
attend
school,
to
urge
all
citizens
vaccinated
or
unvaccinated,
when
they're
inside
an
enclosed
building,
an
enclosed
area
and
around
other
folks
that
they
wear
mass
we're
encouraging
everyone.
Who's
not
vaccinated
to
please
get
vaccinated,
we're
encouraging
the
fda
to
please
make
the
the
final
determination
on
the
vaccine
so
that
children
under
12
will
be
able
to
take
the
vaccine.
So
these
are
the
things
in
the
resolution.
A
I
know
a
number
of
our
citizens
comments
and,
and
some
of
our
medical
health
care
professionals
would
prefer
us
to
have
a
a
mandate
rather
than
a
recommendation.
This
is
an
urgent
recommendation.
A
I
must
share
with
you
that
that
I
and
we
as
a
city
staff,
have
considered
a
mandate.
Enforcement
y'all
is
is
a
real
issue.
Given
the
box
we've
been
put
in
by
the
legislature
with
the
budget
proviso
that
they
passed,
that
you've
all
been
reading
about
how
the
city
of
columbia
and
the
attorney
general
are
kind
of
clashing
with
each
other,
and
that
extends
by
the
way,
all
the
way
down
to
our
school
resource
officers,
who
are
partially
funded
by
state
funds.
A
So,
once
again,
when
you
really
consider
the
practical
matter
of
enforcement,
a
mandate
is
a
very
difficult
thing
to
do.
If,
if
not
impossible,
and
we
saw
monday
evening,
we
were
waiting
to
see
what
the
school
district
themselves
would
do
and
even
though
the
administration
of
charleston
county
school
district
would
recommend
mass
wearing
they're,
not
in
a
position
where
they
can
require
it.
A
And-
and
so
the
thought
behind
this
resolution
is
for
us
all
to
be
on
one
page
on
one
message
to
our
community
about
public
health
and
not
about
politics
and
to
ask
folks
to
do
what
our
health
care
professionals
are
recommending
and
that's
to
go
out
and
get
a
vaccine
if
you
hadn't
gotten
one
yet
and
regardless
for
right
now.
While
this
delta
virus
is
so
contagious
to
wear
a
mask
indoors,
that's
what
cdc
d-hec
everyone
is
recommending.
A
And
so,
by
way
of
explanation,
I
wanted
to
share
that
with
you
and
would
gladly
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
this.
D
Resume
and
we'll
be
approved.
The
resolution.
K
A
Councilmember
jackson,
discussion,
council,
member
griffin.
L
People
in
our
community
that
are
are
going
to
send
their
kids
to
school
without
wearing
a
mask.
I
mean
it's,
it's
going
to
happen
our
governor,
our
state
legislature.
They
made
decisions
that
we
have
to
abide
by,
but
for
all
of
the
people
out
there
that
think
that
this
is
a
mandate.
It
is
not.
It
is
a
a
city
asking
politely
for
people
to
go,
get
vaccinated
and
to
wear
a
mask
indoors.
That's
all
we're
doing
is
asking
you.
L
You
know
to
think
about
your
neighbors
and
I
think
that's
a
very
fair
thing
to
do.
I
think
that
we
would
have
some
trouble
if
we
tried
to
mandate.
L
I
think
that
we've,
like
you,
said
we've
seen
in
colombia
that
that
is
a
contentious
issue,
that
I
don't
think
we
should
be
getting
involved
in,
and
we
certainly
don't
want
to
put
our
school
districts
charleston
and
berkeley
county
at
risk
of
losing
public
funding
because
of
decision
that
we
have
made.
So
I
think
that
this
is
a
very,
very
courteous
and
good
compromise.
L
The
people
that
don't
want
to
wear
a
mask
or
the
people
that
want
to
send
their
kids
to
school
without
they
still
are
able
to
do
that,
but
you
know,
like
you
said
if
we
can
convince
one
more
person
that
that's
the
right
thing
for
them
to
do.
I
think
that's
a
good
compromise.
I
understand
that
some
people
probably
will
never
get
vaccinated
and
I'm
certainly
never
going
to
be
supportive
of
us
forcing
people
to
get
vaccinated.
L
D
Mayor
and
councilman,
my
colleagues,
I
think
people
need
to
start
taking
this
thing
very
seriously.
My
daughter
who
works
for
rope
and
she
was
tested
positive,
mike
ryan
was
tested
positive
today
he's
only
two
years
old
and
he
was
tested
positive
for
the
corporate
today.
D
So
people
there
he's
he's
two
years
old,
so
you
better
take
it
very
seriously.
People
understand
what's
going
on,
but
this
is
a
very
serious,
very
serious
matter
when
she
called
me
today.
The
thing
kind
of
blew
my
mind
because
he's
only
two
years
old
and
don't
know
what
can
happen
from
this
point
on
you
know
so.
People
gotta
take
this
very
seriously.
People
say
they
don't
want
to
do
this.
They
want
to
do
that,
but
they
take
it
very
seriously.
D
That
virus
is
coming
and
people
are
dying
from
it.
It's
not
it's
not
a
fake
thing.
You
can
see
happening
every
day.
I
had
too
many
friends
that
died
from
the
various
cobra
19
itself.
You
know
and
they
were,
and
they
wouldn't
have
any
underlying
condition,
but
it
just
happened.
So
I'm
saying
that
we
need
to
take
us
very
seriously,
he's
only
two
years
old,
two
years
old,
my
grandson,
so
I
see
people
wake
up
and
my
daughter
she
works
in
roper
and
she
has
she's
tested
hoover.
D
He
wasn't
now
for
about
10
days,
but
the
thing
is
that
he
still
have
another
young
child.
That's
he's
she's
only
three
months,
four
months
old,
but
they
said
the
daycare
that
they
called
that
was
shut
down
twice.
The
daycare
was
shut
down
twice
because
people
in
that
daycare
has
covered.
Even
the
cook
have
covert
the
teachers
have
coverts,
so
they
don't
know
where
they
got
it
from
attracting
it
from
so
you
just
don't
know.
J
Thank
you
mayor.
I
just
want
to
say
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
your
leadership
throughout
the
process
over
the
past
18
months
and
I'm
proud
that
the
decisions
we've
made
have
kept
the
city
safe
much
of
the
chagrin
of
many
in
the
community.
I
think
we've
done
a
great
job
for
those
on
council.
J
I
would
just
say
you
know
sit
back
for
a
few
minutes,
because
I
I
this
might
be
a
lengthy
comment,
but
I've
been
thinking
about
this
for
the
past
18
months
and
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
share
my
thoughts
as
a
parent
two
children
in
our
public
schools.
Someone
that's
worked
in
public
education
here
in
charleston
for
10
years.
J
I
would
be
remiss
if,
if
I
didn't
share
my
my
thoughts
and
it
pains
me
that
we
find
ourselves
at
this
point,
let
me
begin
by
saying
I
acknowledge
that
the
difficult
position,
our
local
school
board
and
superintendents
are
in
right
now,
as
the
governor
and
the
attorney
general
threaten
them
with
lawsuits
and
reductions
of
funding.
If
they
don't
adhere
to
the
governor's
mandates,
that's
crazy!
J
J
We
all
know
that
wearing
a
mask
is
uncomfortable,
it
fogs
up
my
glasses
and
it's
difficult
to
breathe.
When
I
got
the
vaccine,
I
thought
I
would
be
able
to
toss
that
mask
out,
and
I
did
to
those
that
opposed
our
former
mask
mandates
and
now
oppose
any
discussion
about
mandating
children
under
12
to
wear
a
mask.
I
just
want
to
state
that
I
respect
your
opinion.
I
really
do
and
I'm
coming
from
a
place
of
of
shared
mutual
respect.
I'm
not
trying
to
be
condescending.
J
The
issue
like
so
many
others
in
our
country
has
divided
us
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
divisive
in
my
heart.
I
really
do
believe
if
we
all
agree
that
keeping
our
kids
safe
and
healthy
is
our
top
priority,
and
we
started
with
that
shared
vision.
The
debate
about
masks
or
not
wearing
masks
would
seem
trivial.
J
Err
on
the
side
of
caution,
I'll
also
acknowledge
that
there
are
instances
where
mass
squaring
amongst
our
children
is
not
practical
and
we
have
to
work
with
those
parents
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
but
it
has
to
be
documented
by
medical
professionals,
and
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
there
are
cases
when
children
cannot
wear
masks.
I
want
to
acknowledge
that.
J
Having
said
that,
a
vast
majority
of
students,
including
my
own
daughter,
wore
a
mask
all
last
year
and
she
suffered
no
ill
effects
other
than
the
messaging
she
heard
on
the
local
news
and
the
adults
in
her
life
making
an
issue
when
there
was
none,
that's
a
fact
she
wore
it.
She
accepted
it,
she
didn't
want
to
wear
it
like
her
dad,
but
she
did
it
because
she
did
it
for
her
classmates.
J
J
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
me
spouting
off
these
facts,
or
data
is
not
going
to
change,
anyone's
hearts
and
minds.
Sadly,
this
has
become
a
cultural
and
political
issue
where
our
emotional
connection
to
the
fight,
sadly
overshadows
our
ability
to
think
holistically
and
use
data
to
inform
our
decision.
Making
many
argue
that
being
forced
to
wear
a
mask
violates
their
constitutional
right
to
liberty,
and
I
say
this:
I
think
it's
a
mistake
to
think
of
liberty
as
an
absolute
self-indulgence
without
restraint.
J
We
don't
have
the
liberty
to
set
our
house
on
fire.
Do
we
the
reason
we
don't
is
because
we
have
neighbors.
This
is
the
same
principle,
yet
some
they
just
don't
see
it.
That
way
to
all
those
claiming
the
mass
mandate
runs
counter
to
our
founding
fathers
and
the
constitution.
I
say
this
look
back
in
history.
There
are
several
examples
where
our
founding
fathers
restricted
certain
freedoms
when
they
fought
to
contain
diseases
like
smallpox
and
yellow
fever
in
the
late
1700s.
J
As
a
reminder,
the
state
of
south
carolina
currently
requires
all
parents
to
have
their
children
vaccinated
for
polio,
hepatitis,
whooping,
cough
chickenpox
and
measles.
These
vaccines
are
required
for
school
attendance.
Now
it's
widely
accepted
that
the
point
of
these
requirements
is
to
protect
all
students.
Why
is
a
mass
mandate?
Any
different,
mandatory
immunization
of
school
children
clearly
intrudes
on
or
burdens
parental
autonomy.
I
get
that
yet
both
the
protection
of
children
from
infectious
diseases
and
the
ensuring
immunity
allows
that
to
make
sense,
we
do
it
because
it
protects
all
of
our
kids.
J
This
is
how
we
beat
polio
and
whooping
cough,
and
this
is
how
we
can
beat
covet.
There
is
no
difference,
I'm
almost
done
council
members,
but
it's
been
18
months
and
I
feel
like
this
is
important.
I'm
going
to
freely
admit
that
we
don't
know
exactly
how
the
delta
variant
will
affect
our
kids,
but
data
from
school
districts
that
just
opened
up
suggests
we're
seeing
increases
in
hospitalizations
amongst
our
children
in
places
like
texas
icu's
are
full,
I'm
not
trying
to
raise
the
red
flag.
J
J
J
If
we
have
to
close
schools,
this
means
students
are
going
to
be
home
again,
which
will
disrupt
parents
work
schedules
which
will
disrupt
our
local
employers
ability
to
get
back
to
normal
operations.
So
when
I
hear
all
the
talk
about
how
we
support
small
businesses
in
the
local
economy,
I'm
going
to
tell
you
the
best
thing
to
do
is
get
vaccinated
and
instituted
mass
mandates
for
our
children.
J
So
we
don't
close
schools
if
we
close
schools,
parents
are
forced
to
stay
home
and,
lastly,
let
me
just
add
one
more
thing
about
school
closures
and
remote
learning
and
speak
to
this
through
our
equity
lens.
When
school
schools
close
the
students
who
are
well
resourced,
like
my
kids
are
going
to
be
fine,
the
parents
will
hire
a
tutor,
pull
their
resources
with
other
families
and
hire
a
teacher.
J
Many
of
these
families
have
reliable
internet
access
and
several
digital
learning
devices
at
the
house
when
the
nature
of
your
job
allows
you
to
work
from
home
and
supervise
your
child's
learning.
The
impact
on
the
family
is
far
less
disruptive,
those
that
work
in
our
restaurants,
hotels
and
grocery
stores.
They
don't
have
that
option.
Neither
do
our
police
officers,
police
officers,
firefighters,
nurses,
doctors,
teachers
when
duty
calls
they
respond
selflessly.
J
The
data
is
clear
that
learning
loss
in
charleston
county
last
year
was
extensive
and
unfortunately,
most
of
that
learning
loss
occurred
in
communities
of
color
if
you're
a
10
year
old
child
whose
family
doesn't
have
a
consistent
access
to
internet,
and
both
your
parents
cannot
afford
to
simply
stay
home
and
supervise
you.
It's
pretty
clear
to
see
why
school
closures
have
a
disproportionately
negative
effect
on
our
black
and
brown
students.
J
J
J
A
You
councilmember
councilmember
jackson,.
F
A
F
So
glad
to
go
behind
my
colleague
councilmember
saccharin,
so
I
will
primarily
just
strongly
associate
and
gratefully
support
his
word,
I
I
I
only
failed
personally
one
you
know
small
but
very
important
to
our
family,
part
of
the
personal
experience
that
councilmember,
mitchell
and
and
councilmember
saccharine
have
just
expressed
to
to
us
and
to
our
public
who
are
watching.
F
My
family
has
two
public
educators,
our
two
daughters,
one
at
the
college
of
charleston,
the
other
one
at
a
high
school
on
in
west
ashley
and
our
grandson
who's
going
to
be
going
into
the
preschool
this
year
is,
is
susceptible
to
everything
that
we've
all
just
you
know
been
educated
about
by
dr
swett
and
and
heard
about
anecdotally
from
those
of
us
who
you
know,
have
children
in
our
family's
lives
mayor.
I
know
you
have
the
same
situation,
so
I
I
I
just
I
honestly
I
don't.
F
I
don't
understand
the
the
thinking
that
is
ignoring
the
the
personal
safety
of
this.
It
really
is
just
foreign
territory
to
me.
I
think
council
member
sacrament
said
it
well
that
when
are
we
gonna,
you
know
be
the
models
for
our
children
to
understand
that
they
are
being
trained
up
as
citizens
of
our
great
country
to
sacrifice
some
of
their
own
personal
liberty
in
order
to
achieve
the
common
goals
that
are
that
are
the
right
thing
for
our
community
at
the
right
time,
and
this
is
one
of
them.
F
I
I
really
didn't
even
think
about.
You
know
how
we
just
you
know,
made
our
doctor's
appointments
when
my
kids
were
little
and
went
off
and
got
their
shots
updated
or
dug
in
our
files
and
made
sure
that
we
could
prove
that
they
were
up
to
date
with
their
vaccines.
I
mean
it
makes
no
sense
that
people
should
be
resisting
to
have
to
to
do
that
and
in
the
case
of
the
younger
children.
Now
the
only
way
we
can
protect
them
is
to
wear
masks.
F
So
the
one
thing
that
I
wrote
down
dr
swett
gave
us
a
a
really
good,
holistic
and
thorough
presentation
of
all
the
latest
data
and
statistics
and
the
core
the
the
analysis
about
all
of
that.
But
the
one
thing
that
I
wrote
down
as
he
was
speaking
and
looking
at
the
uk
and
india
and
missouri,
I
think
it
was-
is
that
he
said
you
know.
The
high
numbers
of
a
spike
require
people
for
basically
compel
people
who
are
experiencing
that
spike
to
take
reactive
precautions
and
then
that
ultimately
brings
the
spike
down.
F
So
we
we
in
charleston
and
under
your
leadership
mayor
and
under
the
willing
votes
of
our
council,
we
were
reacting
to
news
that
we
were
getting
from
the
west
coast
a
year
ago
in
early
march,
and
then
we
saw
the
numbers
coming
to
charleston.
So
we
reacted
quickly
to
what
we
saw
in
the
and
and
we're
able
to
bring
our
numbers
down
way
ahead
of
other
local
localities
in
our
own
state
and
certainly
up
and
down
the
country
where
people
were
not
reacting
so
quickly.
F
So
I
I
know
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
vote
for
the
resolution
tonight
because
I
know
that's
the
only
legal
avenue
that
we
have
before
us
on
the
agenda.
F
But
I
thought
we
were
also
going
to
talk
about
adding
an
agenda
item
on
tuesday
night,
which
we
have
our
own
operating
rules
to
be
able
to
do.
That
would
then
take
up
a
requirement
mask
ordinance.
Yes,
the
school
system
is
in
a
box
right
now,
and
so
are
we.
We
can't
refund
our
school
resource
officers
in
time
to
pay
them
outside
of
state
funding.
F
Maybe
if
we
need
to
take
that
step,
we
can
figure
that
out
in
the
short
term,
but
for
right
now.
I
think
we
could
take
up
an
ordinance
on
tuesday
night
that
would
at
least
require
mass
back
in
the
city
in
public
in
inside
places
that
we
have
control
over
by
our
laws
that
would
protect
kids
in
preschool
and
daycare.
That
would
protect
kids
that
are
coming
back
to
the
college
of
charleston
and
going
out
and
about
and
wanting
to
be
together
as
they
start
their
school
year.
F
I
would
be
happy
to
vote
for
such
a
requirement
and
I
think,
seeing
the
comments.
Yes,
they
were.
They
were
nuanced,
but
in
my
account,
as
I
went
through
them
this
afternoon,
basically,
we
had
44
written
comments
and
33
of
them
were
asking
us
to
take
action
to
require
masks
in
our
city,
whatever
the
differential
of
how
they
were
approaching,
that
30,
33
and
11
people
said
no.
So
I
think
that's
pretty
good
percentage,
75
representative
in
that,
in
that
quickly
organized
set
of
comments.
F
As
you
said
mayor,
the
word
just
went
out
at
the
end
of
the
day
yesterday
and
comments
were
due
this
afternoon,
so
in
less
than
24
hours,
we've
had
very
strong
comments
from
a
representative
body
of
people,
and
I
think
we
should
take
that
seriously
and
take
up
an
ordinance
on
tuesday
night.
Thank
you.
E
I
want
to
give
credit
where
credit's
due
and
thank
you
and
actually
governor
mcmaster
for
encouraging
vaccine
use,
among
all
those
that
are
eligible,
but
I
want
to
point
out-
and
I've
been
hot
under
the
caller
about
this
today
and
normally
when
we
find
ourselves
having
to
wade
into
these
issues.
I
write
out
a
prepared
statement,
but
I've
just
been
so
hot
under
the
collar
that
I
wanted
to
speak
a
little
off
the
cuff.
I
have
some
notes
here,
but
I
want
to
note
that
we
find
ourselves
here
because
of
our
state
legislature.
E
They
love
home
rule
when
they
can
ward
off
the
federal
government,
yet
conveniently
ignore
it
when
it
is
convenient
for
them,
meaning
that
they
hamstring
local
school
boards
and
municipalities,
and
I
think
most
people
would
agree
that
the
government
that
governs
best
is
the
one
that
is
closest
to
you.
I
think
we
all
inherently
know
that,
and
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
attorney
general
wilson
joined
the
lawsuit
for
texas,
challenging
other
states
electors
in
this
past
election,
the
u.s
constitution
and
I'm
not
a
constitutional
lawyer.
E
E
If
you
took
a
look
at
the
budget
proviso,
it
was
so
hastily
written
and
so
badly
worded.
It
just
defies
logic,
and
his
opinion
indicated
that,
because
the
proviso
specifically
said
it
was
for
schools,
it
did
not
mention
municipalities
and
his
opinion
referenced
that
the
intent
of
the
legislature-
that's
not
his
to
determine
that
is
a
courts
to
determine
so
my
suggestion.
I
agree
with
council
member
griffin.
I,
like
the
recommendation.
E
I
think
there's
going
to
be
market
solutions
that
are
going
to
come
out
where
insurance
companies
are
going
to
begin.
Raising
premiums
on
people
who
aren't
vaccinated
and
employers
are
going
to
begin,
requiring
vaccinations
for
their
employees
and
there's
going
to
be
a
market
correction,
that's
going
to
lead
to
increased
vaccinations.
E
I
was
at
target
today
over
70
percent
of
the
people.
I
was
keeping
count
as
I
was
going
down.
The
aisles,
including
myself,
were
masked.
I
think
that
people
understand
it
and
I
don't
think
we
necessarily
have
to
have
a
mandate.
But
the
recommendation
is
a
great
step
forward
and
I
thank
my
colleagues
and
hope
we
can
move
forward
together.
M
M
M
Unfortunately,
a
handful
of
state
legislators
in
the
upstate
who
are
frankly
known
for
their
extreme
ideological
views,
believe
they
know
what's
best
for
charleston
and
have
decided
to
play
politics
with
the
health
and
safety
of
children.
They're
now
infamous
budget
proviso
was
inserted
and
adopted
before
the
delta
variant
hit.
The
scene
just
think
about
that.
For
a
moment,
these
so-called
small
government
pro-life
politicians
believe
they
know
better
than
the
cdc
dhec
the
department
of
education,
pediatricians
and
local
school
boards,
school
boards
and
administrators.
M
I
think
we
should
follow
the
city
of
colombia's
lead
and
adopt
an
enforceable
mass
coordinates
for
kids,
12
and
under
I've
looked
into
the
legal
issues
and
in
my
view
this
issue
is
not
nearly
as
black
and
white,
as
attorney
general
wilson
suggests.
I
have
respect
for
attorney
general
wilson,
but
he
is
a
republican
politician.
M
M
I
say
this
just
to
keep
his
opinion
in
perspective,
a
neutral
legal
opinion
that
can
only
come
from
a
court.
That's
the
only
body
that
can
conclusively
decide
the
law
on
this
issue,
but
I
think
this
is
a
legal
fight
worth
having
we're
talking
about
the
health
and
safety
of
kids
for
crying
out
loud.
I
support
a
mass
mandate
and
joining
this
fight.
It's
worth
it.
Let's
do
it,
I'm
ready
to
do
it
tonight.
We
can
amend
the
ordinance
by
a
two-thirds
vote.
M
I'm
not
sure
we've
got
those
votes
I'd
like
to
see,
perhaps
if
we
do
but
but
if
we
don't
have
it
tonight,
I
certainly
support
us
putting
something
on
the
agenda
for
tuesday
to
make
this
mandate
enforceable.
You've
got
municipalities
all
over
texas.
Doing
this.
You've
got
municipalities
all
over
the
country.
Doing
this
they're.
Defying
these
political
grandstanding
moves
by
governors
and
state
legislators
who
have
no
business
getting
involved
in
this
issue.
I
think
the
city
of
charleston
should
join
that
fight.
Thank
you.
C
Thanks
for
that
ross,
I
agree
with
you
totally.
I
think
this
is
one
of
those
situations
that
I
would
call
good
trouble.
I
think
it's
something
that
we
need
to
take
on
as
one
the
largest
city
and
mayor
I
mean
this
is
not
the
first
time
that
we
would
be
taking
on
something.
That's
unpopular.
C
We've
led
this
fight
before,
and
I
do
think
that
we
should
move
forward
with
a
mass
mandate
in
all
public
buildings,
and
that
includes
schools.
I
have
no
problem
supporting
that.
I
think
when
we
start
making
decisions
with
regard
to
the
lives
of
our
children
and
the
benefits
of
our
children,
I
really
think
that
you
know
we're
we're
really
off
course
mayor,
and
I
think
that
this
issue
is
serious
enough
for
the
city
of
charleston
to
take
a
leadership
role
to
say
that
our
children
come
first.
C
C
Legal
or
otherwise,
I
think
we
need
to
send
that
message:
okay,
as
the
largest
city
and
as
a
city
that
fits
the
leader
of
this
state,
I
think
so
many
others
will
follow
our
lead
if
we
move
forward
with
a
mask
mandate
for
all
public
buildings,
including
schools,
and,
let's
see
what
happens,
that's
just
good
trouble.
Folks,
let's
get
in
some
good
trouble,
I'm
ready
thanks.
L
Yes,
sir,
I
have
a
question
for
mr
johnson.
L
K
L
Just
you
answered
my
question.
Thank
you.
So
much
one
follow-up
question.
Back
in
may,
the
governor
had
an
executive
order
that
said
that
no
local
municipalities
could
use
a
state
of
emergency
or
could
create
a
mass
mandate
is
a
cit.
If
a
city
has
a
an
ordinance
of
that
sort,
are
we
required
to
follow
a
executive
order
coming
down
from
the
governor.
K
My
belief
is
that
the
the
city
has
authority
and
had
the
authority
at
the
time
to
to
pass
the
ordinance
that
it
passed
that
required
the
the
use
or
the
wearing
of
mass
in
in
in
the
city,
buildings
and
so
forth.
That
I
understand
your
question.
Correct.
L
A
I'm
not
sure,
mr
johnson,
do
you
do
you
have
any
follow-up?
I
the
the
point
that
I've
heard
before
councilmember
griffin
is
that
his
executive
order
said
that
we
couldn't
base
a
mass
coordinates
on
his
emergency.
A
His
state
of
emergency
but
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
counselor,
we
we
do
have
the
authority
if
we,
if
we
so
chose
to
to
enact
a
a
mass
mandate
in
our
city
and
and
by
the
way,
on
an
administrative
note,
we
we
have
gone
back
to
phase
three
of
our
own
protocol
for
for
cova
19,
which
includes
a
requirement
for
masking
in
our
own
city,
buildings
and
facilities.
A
That
went
into
effect
this
past
monday,
but
but
I
do
believe
we
have
the
authority
to
enact
a
a
mass
ordinance
generally,
although
you
might
have
to
exclude
school
buildings
because
of
the
the
budget
preside,
proviso,
that's
the
way
I
understand
it
is
that
correct.
K
Yes,
I
would
agree
with
that
interpretation
and
the
I
think
the
governor's
emergency
order
is
fired
earlier
this
year.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
I
can't
recall
precisely
when,
but.
K
L
L
By
defying
that,
I
don't
think
that's
good
trouble,
we're
actually
doing
the
exact
opposite
of
what
we're
saying
we're
trying
to
do,
which
is
to
get
send
kids
to
school
by
to
completely
defying
that
that
legislature's
budget
and
by
trying
to
say
that
we're
going
to
make
people
wear
the
mass.
We
are
actually
putting
our
kids
at
risk
of
having
teachers
in
the
classrooms
and
getting
that
funding.
So
to
me,
that's
ridiculous
that
we
would
even
consider
that,
but
if
that's
the
path
that
we're
going,
I
I'm
on
a
completely
different
wavelength
than
y'all.
L
A
Oh
so,
could
I
suggest
we
we
move
ahead
with
the
call
the
question
on
the
resolution.
It's
clear
at
our
next
council
member,
the
council,
meeting
that
this
discussion
can
continue
in
the
meantime,
we're
going
to
watch
the
numbers
carefully
and
see
what
happens
every
day
and
keep
our
options
open.
A
A
However,
you
can
that
the
importance,
the
real
fundamental
important
thing
is
for
citizens
to
get
vaccinated
and
wear
mass.
Despite
of
the
rules
and
regulations
about
all
this.
So
unless
there's
a
further
compelling
comment,
I'd
like
to
call
the
question
all
in
favor
of
the
resolution,
please
say:
aye
aye
hi
the
opposed!
A
Thank
you,
the
eyes
have
it
so
our
next
meeting,
as
you
all
well
know,
will
be
next
tuesday
at
five
o'clock.
At
this
point,
we're
still
planning
on
meeting
in
person
with
mass
at
the
daniel
island
recreation
center.
E
Thank
you,
mr.
I
had
just
wanted
to
say,
as
it
occurred
to
me,
as
we
were
talking
about
this,
that,
if
attorney
general
wilson
did
challenge
the
city
of
columbia
in
court,
I
want
to
ask
mr
johnson:
would
there
be
anything
to
prevent
us
from
filing
an
amicus
brief
in
support
of
the
city
of
colombia.
K
I
would
not
be
aware
of
any
impediment
to
the
city
filing
an
amicus
brief
in
support,
assuming
the
supreme
court
takes
up
this
issue
right.
I
see
no
reason
why
the
city
could
not
file
in
the
vehicle
so
seek
to
file
an
omics
brief.
Okay,
thank
you.