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City of Charleston Council Meeting - May 28, 2019
A
C
In
ways
that
we
have
a
hard
time,
even
imagining,
so
we
trust
that
you
are
here
with
us
tonight.
We
trust
that
you
are
giving
us
an
understanding
of
your
will
for
our
city.
Thank
you
for
all
of
the
citizens
who
are
dedicated
to
making
this
their
home
and
their
community
in
which
we
may
be
proud
as
well.
We
ask
your
blessing
and
your
protection
over
all
those
who
are
outside
in
this
weather,
working
hard
to
make
our
city
run
and
ask
that
you
take
us
home
safely
in
your
name.
We
pray,
amen.
B
Now,
just
a
general
announcement
and
many
of
y'all
have
been
here
before,
but
just
in
case
and
the
most
unlikely
event
that
we
needed
to
evacuate
the
premises.
These
are
our
two
main
exit
doors
and
there's
also
an
exit
door
of
from
the
room
to
my
right.
If
that
were
to
occur,
please
don't
use
the
elevator
but
simply
use
the
two
stairs
going
down
and
then
the
one
stair
out
to
the
front.
Thank
you
so
just
a
reminder
to
everyone
probably
not
needed,
but
I'm
so
pleased
and
proud
of
our
Spoleto
Festival
USA.
B
That's
currently
underway,
along
with
our
city's
own
Piccolo's
of
Spoleto
Festival,
and
these
guidebooks
are
available
I
think
out
in
the
hallway
and
downstairs
there
are
tickets
available
for
for
many
of
the
hundreds
of
events,
they're
really
remarkable,
going
on
all
over
the
city,
including
our
new
Cannon
Street
Cultural,
Arts
Centre.
So
please
check
out
on
the
remaining
I
think
still
14
days
or
so
maybe
thirteen
of
piccolo
and
Spoleto
USA
next
I
would
like
to
have
a
proclamation
remembering
a
colleague
of
ours,
former
councilmember
rodney
williams,
who
passed
away
recently.
B
That's
the
other
one:
oh
I've
got
it
here.
So
if
I
may
just
read
a
portion
of
this
proclamation
where,
as
Rodney
Williams
native
Charles
Stone
Ian
graduated
from
the
College
of
Charleston,
with
the
Bachelor
of
Arts
in
political
science,
he
later
attended
the
College
of
Charleston
real
estate
Academy
and
the
Harvard
Kennedy
School
for
executive
education
received
certifications
from
the
University
of
South
Carolina
dollar
Moore
School
of
Business.
B
He
was
an
active
voice
in
the
Charleston
community
and
a
tireless
advocate
for
initiatives
and
causes
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
our
citizens,
shown
through
his
work
as
director
of
housing.
Services
for
sea
island
Habitat
for
Humanity,
a
board
member
for
and
smoked
of
smoke-free
Lowcountry
collaborative
Rodney's
efforts
in
health
and
wellness
in
our
community
were
noted
and
we're.
As
a
former
city
council
member,
an
active
member
of
the
Charleston
community,
Rodney
Williams
truly
cared
about
this
city
and
the
people
in
it.
B
He
was
a
compassionate
man,
a
loyal
friend
and
a
truly
remarkable
man,
and
he
will
be
deeply
missed
and
hit
by
this
by
myself
and
by
the
city
of
Charleston.
I
had
a
proclamation
for
his
family
and
presented
this
to
them
at
his
funeral
as
an
expression
of
the
sincere
regret
that
we
hold
for
his
loss
and-
and
we
know
that
they
will
find
comfort
in
the
memories
of
Rodney's
many
many
accomplishments.
B
Thank
you.
So
next
I'd
like
to
invite
some
folks
up
to
the
stage
with
me
the
platform.
This
is
a
proclamation
on
gun,
violence,
awareness
so
with
Jean,
Sutton
and
Kristin.
Moldenhauer
and
moms
demand
action
as
well
as
those
here
with
we
are
their
voices
join
me
as
I
read:
Gun
Violence,
Awareness
Proclamation.
Please
come
forward
for
depth
of
you
who
may
not
know
we
are
their
voices
is
led
by
a
group
of
parents.
Please
come
forward
led
by
a
group
of
parents
who
have
lost
children
to
instant
incidences
of
gun
violence.
B
The
community
is
encouraged
to
wear
orange
on
June
7th,
where,
as
we
renew
our
commitment
to
reduce
gun,
violence
and
pledge
to
do
all,
we
can
to
keep
firearms
of
the
wrong
hands
and
encourage
responsible
gun
ownership
and
to
help
keep
our
children
safe.
Now,
therefore,
I,
John,
J,
Tekken
burg,
mayor
of
the
city
of
Charleston,
do
hereby
proclaim
Friday
June
7th
that
national
gun
violence,
Awareness
Day
in
the
City
of
Charlton
and
I,
would
ask
if
one
of
the
representatives
would
like
gene
or
someone
would
like
to
come
forward
and
make
a
few
remarks.
E
Just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
acknowledging
National
gun
violence,
Awareness
Day
and
our
organizations
United
together,
because
we
need
to
be
the
voices
of
those
who've
lost
their
lives
to
gun
violence
and
make
sure
that
no
other
families
and
communities
have
to
go
through
this.
We
thank
you
very
much
for
this
and
we
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
Alright,
next
we
go
through
our
public
hearings.
We
have
a
few
of
those
seven
of
them
today.
Mr.
Morgan,
with
our
planning
department,
will
announce
each
one
of
these
is
forward,
and
then
we
will
hear
from
the
public
on
each
of
these
matters
and
I
would
ask
that
you
please
address
the
subject
at
hand
and
limit
your
remarks
to
minutes
when,
when
you
come
forward
to
addresses
mr.
Morgan.
F
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
members
of
council,
the
first
item
e1
before
you
is
a
recent
annexation.
Here
we
go
at
twenty
thirty,
seven
Lakeshore
Drive
on
James
Island,
it's
a
single
family
residence.
It
would
come
in
the
city
with
the
sr1
classification
and
staff
and
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval.
B
F
Number
e
2
is
on
Clements
Ferry
Road,
its
undeveloped
property,
south
of
I-5,
26
and
west
of
the
Daniel
Island
development
over
towards
the
Cooper
River
side
of
the
quinoa
Peninsula.
It
is
tract
of
approximately
six
acres.
It
would
be
zoned
rr1
in
the
city
of
Charleston.
There's
a
companion
tract
just
to
the
south
across
another
parcel.
Both
are
contiguous
in
the
city,
and
you
can
see
that
other
companion
tract
it's
the
six
acre
parcels.
F
The
larger
parcel
shown
in
yellow
the
1
acre
tract
is
the
smaller
one
inch
shown
in
yellow
on
Clements
Ferry
Road,
the
southern
end
and
here's
the
other
image
here.
That's
also
zoning
III
and
both
of
these
properties
are
recommended
for
RR
one
world
as
a
dental
and
but
staff
and
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval
of
that
zoning
designation
would.
G
B
F
B
F
H
I
F
Okay
and
then
a
5
is
an
ordinance
amendment
to
a
PUD
that
you
all
have
seen
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
This
is
the
Fenwick
PUD
along
Maybank
Highway
on
the
north
side,
at
Maybank,
highway
on
the
north
side
of
Maybank
highway
on
the
east
side
of
River
Road,
and
it's
in
the
whole
scheme
of
things
it's
a
relatively
minor
and
but
we've
got
some
images
that
will
kind
of
explain
it.
This
relates
to
the
commercial
potential
in
the
property.
Here
you
see
the
property
again
on
the
north
side
of
Maybach
highway.
F
My
pointer
won't
go
to
that,
but
it
is
a
that
includes
both
residential
development
as
well
as
commercial
development.
Here
you
see
an
outline
in
a
little
bit
more
detail.
Of
course,
this
putt
is,
of
course,
providing
the
right-of-way
for
the
northern
pitchfork
Road,
which
should
be
getting
underway
later
this
year,
and
the
amendment
relates
to
hours
of
operation
of
some
of
the
commercial
uses
in
the
commercial
component,
allowing
food
stores
eating
places,
drug
stores,
things
like
that
to
be
open.
As
early
as
5:00
a.m.
to
midnight,
the
PUD,
it
said
originally
7:00
a.m.
F
to
midnight.
So
relatively
minor
change,
theater
and
then
a
change
in
building
frontage,
where
none
had
bit
where
a
65
percent
ratio
had
been
required.
Now,
none
would
be
required,
and
this
relates
to
the
fact
that
the
PUD
would
also
be
changed
to
having
a
instead
of
having
a
30,000
square
foot
maximum
and
the
commercial
area.
You
could
go
up
to
a
55,000
square
foot
maximum,
but
it
would
be
restricted
to
one
particular
location.
F
F
Should
the
PUD
amendment
be
approved
and
should
a
55,000
square
foot
storefront
be
utilized
there
than
all
other
commercial
buildings
would
be
limited
to
15,000
square
feet
instead
of
the
30,000
square
foot
limit
that
is
in
the
PUD
at
present,
both
staff
and
Planning
Commission
have
reviewed
this
and
have
been
comfortable
with
its
these
changes,
and
they
are
still
in
keeping
with
the
spirit
of
the
John's
Island
plan,
because
this
is
one
of
the
community
centers
in
the
John's
Island
plan.
It
would
still
be
a
walkable
location.
B
C
F
F
F
C
C
F
F
B
I
F
Next
item
is
number
six,
which
is
an
amendment
to
a
PUD
in
West
Ashley.
This
is
the
Verdi
a
point
PUD.
It
was
on
your
agenda
a
month
or
so
ago
and
was
deferred,
but
this
is
an
amendment
that
would
allow
this
PUD.
That
was
approved
a
number
of
years
ago
to
be
kind
of
recalibrated,
with
today's
market
demand
and
with
the
information
that
the
developers
know
in
in
reference
to
wetlands
and
Highland
on
the
site,
it
would
involve.
F
F
And
here
is
an
image
that
shows
the
overall
land
uses
in
the
pod.
Again,
the
multi-family
is
the
the
orangish
color,
the
residential
that
would
be
subject
to
the
PUD
is
in
the
area
cross-hatched
and
then
the
mixed
use
areas
in
red
on
B
sphere,
with
a
parallel
connecting
road
that
would
provide
access
to
that
commercial
area
as
well,
without
individual
driveways
on
these
very
and
it
would
allow
attached
single-family
dwellings
as
a
permitted
use
which,
in
the
previous
PUD,
had
not
allowed
that
other
than
the
multifamily.
F
It
would
reduce
frontage
and
rear
setbacks
and
where
the
crease
maximum
want
coverage
to
40%
and
increased
maximum
the
number
of
dwelling
units
without
increasing
the
maximum
density,
because
there
have
been
some
changes
in
the
wetland
and
Highland
on
the
site.
It's
really
only
going
up
by
six
total
units
anyway,
and
it's
the
exact
same
maximum
density
as
before,
and
there
we
go
and
both
staff
and
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval
with
these
changes
would.
B
F
We
are
addressing
that
on
a
couple
of
fronts,
we're
kind
of
revamping
our
annexation
process
to
look
at
drainage
and
flood
zone
and
elevation
issues
as
part
of
the
annexation
process
and
then,
when
those
properties
are
developed,
of
course
they
go
through
our
technical
review
process
and
at
that
time,
just
like
with
any
new
development,
if
there's
an
easement
needed,
we
would
get
them
to
provide
it.
The
overall
design
of
the
stormwater
would
be
put
together
so
detention
ponds,
things
like
that
would
be
calculated
and
examined.
F
B
J
Cleared
that
up,
so
whenever
we
a
lot
of
times
with
people
and
extend
their
asking
for
an
increase
in
density
as
well,
are
we
gonna
be
able
to
see
what
they've
done
a
drainage
at
that
point
upfront,
because
one
thing
that
I
always
cringe
at
is
it
gives
them
any
more
density
to
annex
amend?
We
haven't
seen
any
of
their
drainage
of
how
they
plan
to
drain
their
property.
Are
we
gonna
get
that
information
sooner
now?
Is
that
part.
F
That
will
be
part
of
the
staff
examination
of
each
rezone.
Each
annexation,
excuse
me,
is:
is
it
in
a
location
based
on
its
elevation
that
the
density
that's
being
requested
number
one?
We
always
check
it
to
make
sure
it's
conforms
to
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
two
that
it
conforms
to
our
drainage
plans
and
are
known
are
our
knowledge
of
that
particular
area
and
it's
drainage
issues.
B
F
Morgan,
okay
and
the
final
item
east
seven
has
been
deferred.
It
was
discovered
that
the
opportunity
zone
ordinance
amendments
had
an
error
in
what
went
to
Planning
Commission
versus
what
went
to
Council
for
a
first
read
and
so
we're
gonna.
Kick
it
back
to
Planning
Commission
to
correct
that
error,
so
it
would
be
deferred
from
tonight's
agenda,
but.
B
K
One
reason
why
I
came
tonight
good
summer
reading
democracy
America
by
the
Tocqueville
I'm
reading
at
this
summer,
the
top
three
zones
in
some
of
the
enterprise
and
empowerment
zones,
as
I
said
in
terms
of
the
causation
of
the
problem,
which
would
be
the
1970
86
and
94
crime
bills
and
those
crime
bills
played
a
major
role
in
high
school
dropout
rates,
dysfunctionality
of
families.
What
we
see
as
the
effects
of
the
day
target
under
the
under
Richard
Nixon,
giving
it
to
Democratic
Party
in
1970,
the
sole
senator
scott
wasn't
born
at
65.
K
So
he
was
like
five
years
in
on
this.
So
I
want
to
clearly
understand
what
you
understand
it.
What
happened,
though,
I
want
to
add
this
in
the
record.
This
is
one
of
the
Planning
Commission
in
terms
of
my
concerns.
I
didn't
make
a
public
comment
across
the
street
regarding
these
things
to
notice
of
intended
reappointment
incumbent,
United,
States,
Magistrate
Judge
at
Kimani,
commanding
West,
and
this
is
on
the
records,
mr.
K
Declan
Berg
and
night,
that
we
added
to
that
the
planning
piece,
because
you
look
at
the
dropout
rates
for
all
of
those
years
from
former
50
years,
the
dropout
rates
being
that
high
and
then
significant.
But
what
we
see
in
our
community
now
I
got
this
back
of
article
3
here
the
Constitution
which,
in
all
these
census,
tracts
from
West
Virginia
down.
You
have
many
people
that
cannot
even
afford
legal
counsel
and
these
census
tracts.
You
don't
have
the
network's
or
the
capacity
to
protect
the
civil
rights
to
life.
K
Liberty,
property
pursue
happiness,
that's
right
there
for
you
too!
So
as
a
full
member
of
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
in
the
planet,
enabling
act,
I
felt
the
need
under
public
safety
in
public
health
and
morals
to
deal
with
this
issue.
That's
why
I
use
my
credentials
for
that
reason.
Added
to
this
and
my
SC
VOT
background,
as
well
as
sliced
minority
vendors
and
trying
to
get
those
opportunities
in
these
also
of
minority
businesses
who
can't
get
bonding,
who
can't
get
insurance
bonding
to
provide
opportunities
for
these
projects
and
also
and
closing
the
flood.
K
The
flood
commission
now
many
of
the
census
tracts
do
not
have
any
win
hill
or
type
of
flood
insurance.
The
sort
of
critical
question
tonight,
nine
point:
six
billion
dollars
being
held
up
in
Congress
right
now.
Senator
stop
either
get
that
influence.
Schieffelin
attitude
against
the
president,
because
you
and
the
first
will
begin
hurricane
season
and
the
flood
water
commission,
which
the
P
serves
on,
has
a
like
a
billion
dollars
of
Eli's
at
the
meeting
with
Thomas
Jackson,
it's
almost
a
billion
dollars
in
monies
available
for
these
census
tracts
at
a
critical
need
of
help.
K
L
Not
sure
if
this
is
this
thing
working
the
light's
not
on
I
can
y'all
hear
me,
I
think
it's
okay,
I
think
it's
on
it
is
the
lights
broken
I
reckon
so
I
was
thrown
off
by
this
because
obviously
said
it
was
up
for
second
reading
and
I
knew
we
hadn't
hadn't,
seen
this
before
so
I
was
really
kind
of
confused
by
all
that,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
point
out-
and
this
is
a
maybe
staff-
can
share
this
with
the
planning
department.
L
At
least
this
council
members
opinion
of
this
situation.
The
way
this
ordinance
reads
for
the
opportunity
zones,
the
first
section,
the
first
paragraph.
It
basically
says
that
any
property
within
an
opportunity
zone
will
immediately
benefit
from
all
of
the
or
receive
all
the
benefits
of
a
mu,
1
or
MU
2
designation
without
having
to
go
through
rezoning.
L
Well,
if
our
intention
is
to
have
every
property
in
the
opportunity
zones
become
an
apartment
complex,
that's
a
terrible
idea.
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure
where
this
came
from
and
why
we
even
are
contemplating
this.
But
if
you
think
back
every
property,
that's
been
changed,
owning
to
MU,
1
or
mu
2.
That
I
can
recall
every
single
one
has
been
in
the
apartment
complex
and
to
say
that
we
blanketly
want
to
take
every
property
in
the
opportunity
zone
and
give
it
by
right.
Basically,
the
Ignatian
have
become
an
apartment.
L
B
F
F
B
H
L
The
only
thing
I'll
say
to
that
is
we
pass
laws,
but
we
need
to
understand
what
this
is
actually
create,
and
this
requires
vision.
So
I
want
you
guys
to
think
through
this
process
with
me.
If
we
were
to
change
the
zoning
as
it's
dictated
here,
every
single
developer,
who
is
has
opted
to
do
mu,
1
or
mu.
2
has
also
opted
to
pay
a
fee
in
load,
which
means
that
there
will
not
be
affordable
housing.
They
pay
a
fee
so
that
they
don't
have
to
build
the
affordable
housing.
This
will
not
work.
L
You
will
end
up
with
apartment
complexes
and
every
parcel
of
the
opportunity
zone
and
they
get
tax
incentives
for
doing
it,
and
so
it's
already
financially
feasible.
It's
going
to
become
even
more
financially
feasible
to
do
it.
When
you
get
tax
incentives,
it's
not
going
to
create
affordable
housing,
they're
going
to
pay
the
fee
in
lieu
we've
raised
almost
5
million
dollars
in
fear
Lou
already
because,
as
I
recall,
I
think.
Mr.
mayor,
you
stated
this,
everybody
has
opted
to
pay
the
fee
and
look
if
I
remember
correctly,
which.
L
C
You
mr.
mayor
I
do
think
that
this
could
probably
deserve
its
own
work
session
with
Planning
Commission
I
I
think
we
need
to
get
get
back
to
the
reasons
that
we're
having
to
scramble
around
and
design
something
that
we're
calling
zoning
for
opportunities
ends,
because
the
federal
government
has
basically
created
tax
incentivize
development
through
this
opportunity's
own
program
and
and
the
whole
purpose
of
that
is
to
supposedly
engender
affordability,
both
in
housing
and
in
community
development.
Business
opportunities
for
neighborhoods
that
have
been
suffering
from
the
disparities
that
our
nation
is
all
too
familiar
with.
C
So
I've
never
liked
the
opportunity
zone
concept
as
it
came
down
from
the
federal
government,
because
everyone
said
as
a
predictor.
If
you
read
anything
about
it
ahead
of
time
there
that
it
was
going
to
be
one
of
those
programs
that
would
have
the
unintended
consequences
that
would
create
that
would
create
gentrification
and
high-end
housing
and
places
that
we
really
don't
want
it
here
in
Charleston.
My
understanding
of
this
ordinance
right
now,
though,
and
maybe
I'm
wrong,
because
I've
only
read
it
myself
and
hadn't
really
discussed
it
with
anybody
else.
C
But
I
didn't
think
that
we
were
actually
adding
the
entire
MU
part
of
the
ordinance
to
what
we
have
here
as
the
amendments
for
the
opportunities
own
neighborhoods,
the
actual
territories,
that
we
have
to
call
opportunities
zones
that
the
federal
government
told
us,
we
had
to
call
opportunities
and
I.
So
I
don't
read
in
here
that
they
have
the
option
of
having
a
fee
in
lieu.
But
if
they
do
I
would
agree
with
councilmember
white.
C
We
won't
see
a
lick
of
affordability,
especially
since
one
of
the
additions
to
this
ordinance
that
were
but
I
I
labeled
as
good
as
I
was
reading.
It
was
that
it
was
starting
with
a
60%
of
ami
cap,
and
so,
if
we're
adding
a
being
loop
in
addition
to
this,
then
I
would
totally
agree
with
councilmember
white
I'm
glad
we
have
the
opportunity
to
defer
it.
I
think
we
do
need
to
have
an
interest
group
that
would
discuss
it
and
come
back
with
something,
but
we
cannot.
C
We
cannot
contain
the
opportunity
zone
as
a
program,
councilmember
white,
it's
designed
to
build
housing
and
hopefully
find
the
kind
of
entrepreneurs
we're
going
to
take
advantage
of
this
from
a
tax
incentive
for
themselves
to
go
along
with
the
spirit
of
the
law
and
not
the
inaccuracies
of
how
this
is
coming
down
to
us.
So.
H
B
L
One
education
on
the
agenda
zones:
the
I
think
that
the
most
interesting
thing
about
the
concept
in
Charleston
the
city
of
Charleston
the
opportunity
zone.
So
we
have
very
very
few
areas
that
are
actually
part
of
the
opportunity
zone.
But
if
you
go
look
at
the
map
and
where
the
opportunities
owns
have
been
designated
in
the
city
of
Charleston,
Hall's,
Chop
House
is
right
in
the
center
of
it.
B
H
I
mean
plantation
needs
a
little
help
and
someone
especially
that's
been
around
the
teeth.
I,
remember,
councilmember,
Lewis,
saying
and
community
development
that
this
is
the
last
one.
Councilmember
right,
wife
is
right.
In
there
the
apartments
the
development
of
already
occurs
have
been
high
in
apartments.
It
didn't
include
one
affordable
unit,
and
this
was
an
attempt
to
try
to
slip
something
in
on
that
draw
capacity.
I
know
it's.
The
opportunity
zone
is
federal
program,
but
zoning
is
within
the
auspices
of
this
council
and
mayor
and
city
right.
L
And
I'm
and
I'm
actually
own
community
development,
not
recall
us
having
discussions
but
and
I
have
to
admit
I,
don't
even
recall
in
reason
why
I
asked
step
two
wait:
a
minute
I,
don't
even
recall
that
we
actually
I
guess
maybe
it
was
a
late
night
or
something
that
we
passed.
This
I
didn't
even
recall
the
we
had
had
the
opportunity
to
have
this
first
run,
but
I,
don't
recall
in
the
community
development
that
we
actually
had
the
pole
or
dance
and
maybe
I'm
wrong
about
that.
L
G
A
plan
right,
yes,
that
darpa
till
his
own
right
cause
that
would
be
explained
about
opportunities
only
this
is
not
the
way
we
were
looking
for
the
zone
to
come
back
now
from
the
federal
government,
but
they
dictated
how
they
was
going
to
do
it
on
his
own,
because
we
thought
this
up
to
a
dissolve
is
going
to
act,
the
same
way
as
the
enterprise
on
us
and
getting
into
the
blighted
area.
But
that's
not
the
way,
came
back
and
then
we're
having
no
say-so
well.
B
H
J
I
think
that's
the
best
course
of
action
too,
because
I
don't
want
something
going
to
planning
it's
worded
different
than
what
we
voted
on.
So
I
would
rather
take
this
from
the
beginning.
If
we're
gonna
change
the
language
and
we've
kind
of
gone
about
it
in
a
weird
way,
we
might
as
well
start
over
on
this
and
have
it
go
back,
Community,
Development
and
then
come
back
to
us
for
our
first
reading.
J
B
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
now.
Our
minutes
from
May
14th
are
deferred,
so
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
citizens
participation
period,
there's
normally
a
30
minute
period.
We
have
about
20
folks,
signed
up
I,
think
a
few
of
them
I've
already
spoken
so
I'm
gonna
ask
everyone
to
when
you
give
your
name
and
address
the
limit,
your
remarks
to
a
minute
and
a
half,
so
we
can
move
along.
A
K
Based
upon
on
Scottish
Harris
circular
supreme
court,
my
name
is
Anthony.
G,
Bryant
and
and
you've
got
the
address
on
the
letter.
I
don't
drive
for
uber
or
lyft
I'm,
not
a
Hooper
driver,
a
lyft
driver,
I,
don't
drive
there,
and,
and
so
I
was
on
my
mother's
porch
reading
a
book
and
someone
called
the
city
of
Charleston
Police
Department.
Regarding
something
a
third
party
observation.
When
a
third
party
calls
the
police
and
the
police
comes
out
to
the
official
observation
in
South.
K
K
versus
Cruz
Shane
was
with
African
American
to
vote
1873
the
First
Amendment
a
sacrament
was
justified
by
the
Supreme
Court
for
african-americans
to
vote,
so
the
second
limit
has
always
been
used
to
justify
forced
on
black
men,
okay
and
also
under
article
1
of
article
3,
which
many
African
Americans
cannot
afford.
Legal
counsel,
I
appropriate
defense
of
the
local
county
court,
state
or
federal
level.
Then
they
have
no
recourse.
Let
us
have
civil
rights
in
name.
Only.
So
therefore
ask
my
experience.
K
O
O
How
do
I
know
about
this
I
know
about
this,
because
I
am
the
person
who
was
falsely
accused
way
if
the
justice
and
as
far
the
staff
remember
profit
laws,
the
peace
and
blessing
of
God
be
upon
him.
His
staff
turned
into
the
snake,
so
I'm
glad
you're
checking
the
staff
of
me
attacking
Berg.
Thank
you.
Thank.
P
Yes,
my
name
is
Gus
Maloney
I
resided
3058,
Ashley
River
Road
on.
Thank
you
all
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
October
30th.
The
young
girl
by
the
name
of
KC
Jay
had
too
much
to
drink
and
she
got
behind
the
wheel
of
the
car
she
plowed
into
a
pot
practically
over
a
pedicab.
She
fled
the
scene
of
the
accident.
She
was
chased
down
and
stopped
about
a
half
mile
away
from
where
that
accident
occurred,
the
police
came.
She
took
a
field
sobriety
test,
she
failed
it.
She
took
a
breathalyzer
test.
P
She
blew
a
point
to
four,
which
is
three
times
the
legal
limit:
the
police
they
are
they.
On
top
of
that,
there
was
a
dashcam
video
that
caught
the
whole
incident
from
beginning
to
end
and
that's
on
YouTube
for
all
to
see.
I
have
what
had
absolute
confidence
that
justice
would
be
done.
In
that
case
on
May
16th,
she
entered
a
guilty
plea
for
DUI
first
and
was
given
a
hundred
and
eighty-seven
dollar
fine
and
24
hours
of
community
service,
guys
that
is,
we
took
a
wrong
path
somewhere.
P
A
Q
Q
You
need
to
fire
some
people
I'm
telling
you
somebody's
lining
their
pockets
and
they're
not
doing
their
job.
As
for
the
police
department,
I
haven't
been
able
to
find
achieve.
He
hasn't
called
me
back,
but
actually
one
of
my
men
was
arrested
improperly
and
he's
an
African
American.
He
was
sleeping
in
the
truck
I.
Q
Don't
know
why
3
o'clock
in
the
morning,
but
he
had
a
CWP
and
see
a
weapons
permit.
They
arrested
him
for
having
anything
to
eat
an
illegal
firearm
he
was
arrested,
booked
in
the
county
jail
at
6:15
kicked
out
at
6:17,
but
it
took
him
four
hours
to
get
out
of
the
jail
now.
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
in
this
the
police
department,
but
it
needs
to
get
some
new
leadership.
Q
A
R
Good
evening
I'm
Jimmy
curve,
my
addresses
2745
canter,
laying
on
John's
Island
I,
want
to
thank
you
all
for
considering
number
k1
tonight
for
the
third
reading
and
for
the
last
two
times
that
we've
been
here
before
you
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
this
issue.
This
puhd
that
I
want
to
focus
on
a
couple
of
salient
points
that
I
command
to
you
for
consideration.
R
The
critical
facts
are
that
the
PUD
we've
heard
before
and
from
council
is
perhaps
the
best
way
of
developing
property,
because
you
know
really
what
you're
getting
in
fact
in
this
particular
pod,
with
some
of
the
historical
issues
on
that
are
being
preserved
in
the
parks
and
so
forth.
On
noteworthy,
we
have
reduced
further
the
density
beyond
what
we
originally
submitted.
The
meets
all
of
the
John's
Island
plans
and
cities,
regulations
for
Jones
Island,
asking
for
no
exemptions
or
exceptions.
R
Since
our
last
meeting,
it's
important
to
note
that
the
two
things
that
were
asked
to
happen
have
happened,
namely
that
the
southern
tide
is
incorporated
with
language
into
the
PUD
and,
secondly,
that
the
zoning
by
a
hundred
units
has
been
reduced
included
in
the
PUD.
I
will
note
that
the
Kerr
commercial
track
we
have
voluntarily
imposed
a
two-year
moratorium
on
ourselves
and
it's
included
in
there.
R
We
will
not
ask
for
any
permits
on
that
commercial
track
for
a
period
of
two
years,
at
least
there's
no
plans
on
his
property
currently,
but
I
do
that,
so
it
gives
some
time
to
try
to
solve
solve
the
problems.
Thank
you
look
at
what
we
do,
not
what
we
say.
The
KERS
have
always
been
involved
in
the
community
and
I
asked
you
to
do
that.
Not
just
what
I'm
telling
me
we
could
do,
look
at
what
we
have
done
in
the
past.
Thank
you.
Thank.
S
Hi
I'm,
Diane,
DeAngelis
and
I
live
in
the
French
Quarter
at
32,
Prioleau,
Street
and
I
want
to
thank
the
Historic
Charleston
foundation
and
the
Preservation
Society
for
keeping
me
up
to
date
on
the
task.
Hotel
task
force
and
I
want
to
remind
everybody
here
that
we
in
the
French
Quarter,
especially
those
along
the
water
and
also
in
ansan
Borough,
live
next
to
the
biggest
hotel
that
comes
into
Charleston
all
the
time
and
brings
now
over
3,000
people
and
turns
them
over.
S
T
Russ
seaman
501,
Wando,
Park,
Boulevard
and
I'm
here
to
speak
on
the
car
track.
Thank
you
appreciate
mr.
curves
comments
just
like
to
reiterate
a
few
points.
First
off
what
we're
asking
to
build
can
be
built
already,
but
we're
decreasing
the
number
of
units
significantly
and
deferring
even
more
of
the
unit's
we're
donating
land
for
a
future
traffic
solution
and
providing
a
route
that
language
has
been
incorporated
into
the
PUD
the
PUD
provides
way
more
open
space
than
the
buy-rite
zoning
would
and
by
reducing
density
and
eliminating
the
geo
zoning
reducing
traffic.
T
U
Good
evening
you
I'm
Winslow
hasty,
with
the
store
Charleston
foundation
here
to
speak
about
the
accommodations
overlay
ordinance.
That's
before
you
this
evening
for
first
reading,
I
was
pleased
and
honored
to
be
a
part
of
the
hotel
task
force
and
I
want
to
thank
everybody
who
participated
in
that
effort.
I
think
it
was
a
really
great
model
for
moving
forward
on
some
of
these
complex,
thorny
issues
that
sometimes
get
kind
of
stuck
in
the
spin
cycle
of
the
legislative
process.
I
was
very
pleased
to
see
the
degree
of
consensus
that
the
entire
group
felt.
U
We
had
members
of
the
hospitality
industry.
We
had
neighborhood
representation
preservation
organizations
and
several
members
of
this
council
and
the
mayor,
and
once
we
really
all
sat
down
and
got
into
this
process,
we
realized
how
much
consensus
it
really
was.
So
we
strongly
recommend
that
you
give
this
ordinance
first
reading.
Our
hope
is
that
this
task
force
will
continue.
I
think,
there's
more
work
to
be
done,
man,
you
know
people
conceded
on
all
sides,
but
I
think
all
in
all
everybody
at
the
end
of
the
process
felt
very
positive
about
where
we're
heading
even
Lenny.
U
Krawczyk
who
participated
sort
of
on
the
sidelines
was
extremely
important
to
have
his
perspective
and
I
think
the
ammunition
and
the
regulatory
authority
that
we're
giving
him
gives
it
gives
him
a
lot
more
opportunity
to
regulate
hotels.
The
way
he
would
like
to
that,
he
thinks
was
is
best
for
the
health
of
our
city.
So
again,
this
represents
diversity
of
perspectives,
and
we
commend
it
to
you
this
evening.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
V
Well,
good
evening,
John
Marsland
I'm
the
current
president
of
the
Anson
burro
Neighborhood
Association,
and
had
the
privilege,
as
serving
as
an
alternate
on
the
ordinance
amendment
task
force
again,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
mayor
for
allowing
me
that
opportunity
I'm
here
to
advocate
that
you
approve
the
first
reading
I
agree
with
mr.
hasty
summary.
V
What
we
believe
the
the
current
draft
amendment
does
is,
if
approved
from
first
reading,
would
immediately
enable
the
be
za
z
to
question
and
challenge
development
until
further
questions
can
be
answered.
I
think
also,
you
know,
I
think
the
way
the
process
works.
Obviously,
there
are
some
other
details
that
are
worth
exploring.
I
think
we
also
talked
about
the
idea
that
question
of
what
is
a
goal
for
mixed
use.
What
is
an
appropriate
level
of
density
are
questions
that
are
appropriate
and
probably
best
suited
addressed
in
the
upcoming
comprehensive
plan.
Thank
you.
W
Good
evening
Christopher
king
with
the
Preservation
Society
in
Charleston
I,
heard
a
rumor
today
that
Charleston
was
the
number
one
Memorial
Day
destination
in
America
I,
don't
know
if
it's
true,
but
if
you
were
a
downtown,
it
certainly
felt
like
it.
I
read
in
the
paper
today
that
they're
adding
more
flights
to
bring
in
more
people
for
the
tourism
season.
W
The
more
people
want
to
visit
Charleston
the
more
Hotel
proposals
we're
going
to
see
and
right
now
the
ordinance
does
not
provide
the
tools
to
ensure
that
these
hotels
consider
the
long-term
health
and
balance
of
our
city
and
I
think
mr.
hasty
said
it
well.
This
was
a
collaborative
effort
and
how
often
do
you
get
to
hear
that
the
CVB,
the
hotel
industry,
neighborhoods
and
preservation
groups
are
in
agreement
and
that's
what
you
have
before
you
tonight
is
the
culmination
of
that
work
and
we
have
been
standing
up
and
urging
for
this
for
years.
W
You
have
an
ordinance
in
front
of
you.
Is
it
perfect?
No,
is
it
very
good?
Absolutely,
let's
get
it
first
reading,
let's
get
it
to
the
Planning
Commission.
Let's
continue
to
work
on
this
test.
It
and
make
sure
this
works,
let's
make
sure
it's
bulletproof
and
let's
go
and
protect
residential
properties.
Let's
protect
our
office,
let's
protect
our
retail
and
let's
get
a
tie-in
to
affordable
housing.
Let's
go
get
this
done
and
start
doing
a
better
job
regulating
hotels.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
X
Y
E
Phyllis,
Ewing,
I'm,
sorry,
Phyllis,
Ewing,
I,
live
it
for
Ashley,
Avenue
and
I'm
here
to
support
the
first
reading
of
the
hotel
amendment.
It's
been
done,
I
think
that
we're
really
every
week
or
two
weeks
it
goes
by
there's
another
Hotel
thing:
that's
given
conceptual
approval
or
approval,
it's
B,
Z
BCA.
My
understanding
is
once
this
is
in
process
that
they
can
put.
They
can
stop
some
of
this
development
and
use
this
new
ordinance.
It
will
go
back
to
it.
I
think
time
is
of
the
essence.
Y
Z
AA
AB
Good
evening
mayor
ticklin
Berg,
a
members
of
City
Council,
my
name
is
Jeremy
Rutledge
and
I'm.
The
senior
pastor
of
the
circular
Congregational
Church
on
150
Meeting
Street
I,
come
this
evening
to
share
my
conscience
and
to
appeal
to
your
conscience
as
well.
I'm,
deeply
troubled
by
the
john
c
calhoun
statue
that
towers
over
our
city
and
all
its
citizens.
AB
Calhoun
believed
that
white
people
were
superior
to
black
people
and
that
the
enslavement
of
black
people
was
a
positive
good
I
find
his
beliefs
morally
reprehensible
and
I
reject
them
completely.
I.
Believe
many
of
you
also
reject
those
beliefs
which
we
can
only
refer
to
as
white
supremacist
beliefs.
Ya
Calhoun
remains
literally
on
a
pedestal
at
the
center
of
our
civic
life
lifted
up
in
a
place
of
prominence,
I'm
aware
that,
thanks
to
the
Heritage
Act,
it
will
take
an
act
of
our
state
legislature
in
order
to
change
things.
AB
Some
will
claim
that
the
statue
is
about
history
and
not
hate.
Yet,
if
white
supremacy
is
not
hateful,
then
I
don't
know
what
is
I
believe
the
statue
belongs
Museum,
where
children
may
learn
about
it
in
context,
but
in
our
public
spaces
we
deserve
better
I
appeal
to
your
conscience
and
I.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
AC
If
you,
if
you
don't
see
the
traffic
crisis
that
we're
into
and
I'd
like
to
know
more
about
that
and
then
how
do
contiguous
neighbors
opinions
weigh
in
on
subdivision
approval
in
North,
Charleston
I
know,
there's
a
district
where
one
of
the
council,
ladies,
she
before
so
division
has
approved
everyone
in
the
neighborhood
or
contiguous
to
a
specific
subdivision
has
to
sign
off,
sign
off
or
Natur
or
how
they
feel
about
it.
That's
considered
so
thank
you.
B
B
AD
Reverend
Charles
Hayward
40:37
gift
Boulevard
on
John's,
Island,
c'mere,
Tecton,
bird
and
youngsil
I
want
to
appeal
to
you
to
make
it
right
that
is,
to
take
the
necessary
actions
by
the
powers.
Given
you
to
have
the
john
st
calhoun
monument
removed
from
public
display
any
place
within
our
beloved
city.
Why?
AD
The
monument
continues
to
memorialize
and
perpetuate
what
mr.
calhoun
stood
for.
Each
of
you
on
this
council
are
educated,
intelligent
and
have
moral
principles.
You
know
the
history,
no
one
living
today
in
this
room
ever
met
Chauncey
Calhoun,
169
years
later.
What
he
stood
for
is
increasingly
being
experienced
by
the
African
Americans
we
recorded
on
our
cell
phones.
We
put
it
on
the
news.
Us
council
have
a
moral,
ethical
and
political
responsibility
to
make
it
right.
AD
I
pray
that
each
of
you,
especially
those
of
you
who
are
candidates
I,
have
to
serve
the
next
term
as
mayor
of
this
city
will
go
on
public
record.
Concerning
your
position
and
your
intentions
about
this
removal.
The
voices
to
act
or
not,
act
will
begin
to
get
louder
and
louder
in
history.
Record
will
record
you
individually
and
collectively
as
a
council,
whether
you
reaffirm
a
heritage
that
continued
to
demoralize
are
dehumanized
African
Americans,
or
rather
you
rejected
this
memorialize
history
and
reaffirm
the
humanity
of
all
citizens,
and
rather
you
made
it
right.
B
AE
O
H
B
J
Councilmember
Schiele
and
I
were
hoping
to
make
a
comment
regarding
one
of
the
matters
that
came
up
in
the
citizen
participation
just
very
quickly.
We
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
do
that
as
we
kind
of
moved
on,
but
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
the
point
that
mr.
Maloney
had
made
about
that
DUI
arrest
and
I
would
ask
that.
Maybe
we
could
look
into
that
matter
a
little
bit
more
because,
as
you,
you
know,
we've
had
some
very
serious,
tragic,
duis
downtown
and
this
could
have
been
another
one
and
we
cannot
take
them
lightly.
J
So
if
council
members
see
that
enough,
you
into
that,
but
if
we
could
maybe
get
with
Scarlett
Wilson's
office
and
the
prosecutor
on
that
case,
find
out
why
he
made
that
decision,
maybe
talk
to
her
and
just
get
a
little
bit
more
clarification.
I
think
the
public
deserves
to
know
the
answer
to
that
I.
AF
AF
It
did
a
very
good
article
on
this
as
well,
and
there
is
video
on
there
that's
very,
very
clear
in
this
situation
that
when
Miss
kcj
hit
that
pedicab
she
took
off
I
mean
she
slammed
the
gas
and
took
off
went
as
fast
as
she
could
and
probably
would
have
done.
Further
damage
maybe
have
killed
somebody
if
it
wasn't
for
mr.
Maloney
who
pulled
up
beside,
got,
hurt
a
slowdown
pulled
in
front
of
her
opened
her
door
and
took
the
keys
out
there
could
have
been.
AF
This
could
have
been
a
horrible
horrible
instance
because
she
is
flying
down
the
middle
of
downtown
Charleston
after
she's
already
hit
someone,
and
then
she
accepts
the
breathalyzer.
She
blows
well
past
the
legal
limit,
and
every
bit
of
this
is
documented
on
video
and
the
public
has
seen
it
and
she
got
24
hours,
community
service
and
I.
You
know
I
I
spoke
with
Councilman
Shaheed
a
while
ago
and
asked.
Is
there
something
we
just
passed
the
law
or
ordinance
on
hate
crimes?
Here?
AF
Is
there
something
we
can
do
our
committees
and
through
our
council
here
to
make
sure
that
when
there
is
a
clear-cut
DUI,
the
guy
could
have
been
killed?
He
was
very,
very
fortunate.
He
came
out
with
some
minor
injuries
to
his
knee,
but
he
could
have
been
killed.
She
takes
off,
I
mean
she
leaves
the
scene
and
it's
all
right
there
on
video.
AF
AG
Yes,
sir
mr.
mayor
members
of
council,
so
I've
already
asked
that
we
schedule
a
public
safety
committee
meeting
to
take
up
several
issues.
One
of
this
will
be
but
Kevin,
but
mr.
Shi
Lee's
asked
me
about
on
an
ordinance
and
to
look
into
what
may
have
happened
with
this
particular
incident.
So
we
can
get
it
looked
into
so
we'll
try
to
have
that
meeting
before
the
June
18th
meeting.
AE
AH
Sinking
tank
was
just
briefly.
This
conversation
just
brings
back
a
theme
that
we've
talked
about
a
good
bit,
I.
Think,
actually
that
everyone
on
this
council
and
you
mayor,
agreed
that
we
should
have
a
judiciary
committee.
I
mean
this
is
a
plate.
We
should
be
looking
at
what's
going
on
in
the
processes
of
the
cities
to
the
city
and
nowhere
it's
more
important
than
what
goes
on
in
our
judiciary
and
how
that
all
happens.
AH
So
I
would
again
call
for
us
to
look
at
and
form
a
judiciary
committee,
because
we
can
take
up
a
lot
of
issues,
including
this
issue.
Sort
of
so
I
mean
I.
Think
I've
made
that
motion,
but
I
would
make
a
motion
again.
Let's,
let's
get
that
put
together,
let's
get
with
our
legal
team
and
put
together
judiciary
committee.
That's
my
motion.
AE
B
B
AH
That's
fine
but
I
thought
then
I
move
that
we
also
send
for
a
hearing
and
consideration
at
councilmember
shades
community,
the
Public
Safety
Committee,
the
formation
of
a
Judiciary
Committee
I
would
like
that
to
be
on
his
next
agenda.
Please,
mr.
mayor
all
right,
thank
you.
We'll
do
that!
I
have
a
motion
on
the
Planning
Commission
I
move
that
we
reappoint
the
two
currently
serving
Planning
Commission
members
and
that
we
defer
consideration
of
the
new
appointments
until
the
next
meeting,
because
we've
now
filled
one
of
those
two
slots.
AH
B
And
by
way
of
explanation,
councilmember
Lewis,
when
we
look
at
a
replacement,
there's
certain
spots
on
the
Planning
Commission
and
one
is
an
attorney
spot
spot
and
that
position
was
not
available
right
now.
So
I'm
not
saying
that
an
attorney
can't
serve
in
a
non-attorney
slot.
That
I
think
that's
possible.
B
C
You
mr.
mayor,
before
we
vote
on
the
reappointment,
I
I
would
just
like
some
clarification
from
my
corporate
counsel
when
we
or
maybe
your
office
when,
when
we
I
know
that
we
solicit
the
consideration
by
the
current
commissioners
who
are
up
for
renewal
asking
if
they
would
like
to
be
reappointed.
So
I
have
no
doubt
about
that.
C
So
I
don't
know
if
there
is,
you
know
a
hardy
best
answer
to
when
we
would
get
to
a
Commissioner
having
to
close
a
role
in
in
his
career
to
be
with
the
real
estate
industry
and
you
know,
be
able
to
be
evaluated
as
maybe
being
a
little
bit
too
influenced
by
the
famous
real
estate
career,
not
not
that
he
would
do
it
on
purpose,
but
just
I'm.
Just
asking
that
because
I
don't
know
I,
don't
know
how
well.
B
B
AH
Briefly,
as
specifically
to
Mister
gear,
I
mean,
if
you
go
look
at
first
off.
His
participation
rate
is
the
highest
of
anybody
on
the
Planning
Commission.
He
shows
up
he's
been
the
chairman
he's
a
dutiful,
sir
person
up
there,
I
mean
I,
don't
agree
with
everything
here
that
Planning
Commission
does,
but
he
is
as
far
as
this
person
saying,
I
got
a
lot
of
those
meetings
that
no
council
member
Jackson
does
to
I
mean
he's
an
excellent
member
that
Planning
Commission.
B
C
J
Was
added
into
an
email
chain
from
some
residents
in
regards
to
believe
the
same
matter
that
Councilwoman
Jackson
is
bringing
up
about
a
transaction
that
was
made
and
mr.
Gere
was
a
part
of
and
subsidy
could
have
voted
on,
and
these
constituents
and
residents
asked
for
some
information
from
our
staff
about
what
about
voting
records
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
they
asked
for
weeks
and
never
got
them
yet.
No
replied,
no
nothing
from
our
city
whatsoever
and
I
think
that's
wrong.
J
J
AA
J
So
I'm
happy
to
talk
with
you
about
this
afterwards
too
sure,
but
I
would
like
to
defer
the
reappointments,
because
I'd
like
to
get
more
information
on
that
I.
Think
that
any
time
that
a
resident
makes
an
accusation
like
that,
it
should
at
least
be
looked
into
and
me
being
on
these
email
chains
now
and
getting
no
response
from
our
staff.
I
would
like
you
to
get
that
response
before
we
make
any
any
move
forward
on
that.
But
if
you
don't
want
to
honor
that
councilmember
sequins,
that's
fine,
but
my
motion
to
defer
takes
precedent.
J
AI
I
guess
my
my
question:
there's
two
of
us
here
has
to
do
with
qualifications.
I
know
the
Planning
Commission.
There
is
a
requirement.
These
people
attend
some
trainings
a
couple
days
a
couple
three
days.
Don't
like
that
I,
don't
remember
exactly
what
it
is.
Pretty
attention
and
I'm
not
sure
our
first
question
via
these
that
are
being
reappointed,
have
they
attended
those
meetings?
Have
they
attended
that
training?
AI
AI
AI
M
Training
requirements
vary
depending
on
the
profession
of
the
person
who's
appointed.
Those
who
are
members
of
professional
organizations,
such
as
landscape
architecture,
lawyers,
can
fulfill
the
requirements
to
their
own
professional
association.
Those
who
are
members
at
large
and
they're,
not
members
of
professional
associations,
have
to
attend
the
training
that
we
offer,
so
it
depends
on
on
who
they
are
in
general,
though
it's
three
sessions
per
year,
so.
M
Were
just
discussing
that
council,
member
I
actually
don't
have
the
exact
answer
in
the
past
I
know
that
those
two
members
have
attended.
Okay,
this
current
year,
I
can't
speak
to
I.
Just
haven't
seen
it,
but
I
do
know
that
in
the
past
they
have
attended
the
training
that
was
required
of
them,
but
I
can
look
into
that
immediately.
For
you.
AI
AI
Brown
great
guy
I'm
not
sure
exactly
whether
he
was
asked
I,
don't
think
he
just
came
out.
The
blue
had
decided
to
join
this
body
because
I
know
he
just
got
it
he's
on
the
board
of
trustees
at
the
Medical
University
I
just
got
appointed
there
and
I
think
if
he
takes
this
he'd
had
to
give
up
that
position
that
the
university
isn't
rusty,
I'm,
not
sure
about
that.
But
I
think
that's!
That's
not
dual
office.
AA
AI
I
guess
my
question
is:
if
we're
going
to
conquer
this,
a
I
would
I
would
love
to
have
dr.
Brown
all
of
this
money,
but
I
served
with
him
we're
both
all
the
Star
Gospel
Mission
Board
for
a
while
when
he
got
appointed
a
better
University.
He
dropped
off
of
that
board
because
he
just
he
didn't,
have
the
time
and
I
called
him
and
asked
him.
I
said
you
know
what
you're
getting
into
here.
AI
He
said:
well,
it's
just
one
above
the
week
or
one
one
meeting
a
month
and
I
said
no
and
so
I
suggested
he
call
a
couple
people
and
find
out
exactly
what's
involved.
So
there's
something
going
on
with
our
recruiting
process
here
and
dr.
Brown
is
a
would
be
a
great
add
in
this
safe,
but
I,
don't
know
that
he
would
did
he
do
exactly
what
he
was
getting
into
it
I.
AI
AI
AI
A
H
N
H
And
I
think
the
other
discusses
I
do
exactly
say
and
with
Councilman
Griffith
is
saying:
I
guess
needs
to
be
followed
up
on
because
I
don't
know
how
many
citizens
are
involved.
But
let
me
say
this:
I
have
actually
seen
where
items
of
a
conflict
came
up
during
the
time
that
I
served
with
now,
and
not
only
did
he
not
vote
on
it,
he
actually
left
the
room
while
the
measure
was
being
debated.
H
J
I
just
clarify
that
I'm,
not
accusing
him
by
any
way,
but
I
was
put
on
an
email
chain
with
an
accusation
and
with
a
for
a
request
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
taken
care
of,
because,
as
a
council
member
I
feel
like
is
our
due
diligence.
If
somebody
includes
this
in
something
like
that,
we
just
need
to
make
sure
that
it
is
taking.
C
You
I
just
want
to
say
the
same
thing
that
my
question
and
bringing
up
this
topic
was
literally
a
categorical
and
not
not.
I
wasn't
talking
about
any
one
person
except
that
have
been
brought
to
my
attention
and
it
made
me
want
to
ask
the
questions
so
I
apologize
to
our
corporate
Council
and
Planning
Director
for
not
knowing
the
regulations
to
the
level
of
detail
about
the
type
of
qualifications
that
we're
asking
our
planning
commissioners
to
have
so
anyway.
H
You
yeah,
but
what
I'm
just
saying
if
somebody
put
in
a
FOIA
request
and
all
of
that
I
think
it
needs
to
be
followed
up
on
if
I
were
on
that
Commission
I
would
want
it
to
be
following
up
on
it.
But
I
said
I've
served
with
mr.
Gere
he's
a
class
guy
I've
seen
him
in
action,
but
that
needs
to
be
answers,
and
so
this
shouldn't
these
ramrod
it
through.
Without
that's.
B
AH
H
The
reason
I
didn't
say
it,
because
I
wanted
to
make
my
point:
I
didn't
because
I
wanted
to
make
my
point
what
I
just
made
right
and
I
think
that
would
be
ramrod
NIF
truth.
So,
if
you're
gonna
carry
this
motion
with
to
appoint
the
two
people,
I
certainly
vote
on
miss
Johnson
right
now,
but
I
think
Mr,
Kydd
I
think
this
situation
needs
to
be
answered
and
I
think
it
will
be.
H
I
B
To
do
I'm
not
trying
to
pass
judgment
one
way
or
the
other
yes,
so
we
had
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
reappoint
mister
gear
and
Miss
Johnson,
and
we
had
a
motion
to
defer
that
did
not
get
second
seconded
until
some
considerable
time
later,
I
presume
your
motion
to
defer
still
yeah.
We
have
motion
to
defer
and
a
second
which
takes
precedence
all
in
favor
of
deferring
and.
AH
I've
been
listening
very
closely.
I
do
believe
that
councilmember
Griffin
was
really
observing
that
there
had
not
been
some
action
taken
on
a
request
he
made
from
the
staff.
It
was
not
a
direct
complain
about
mr.
Gere.
It
was
a
complain
about
process,
I'm
sure
now
look
what's
going
on
in
the
city
right
now,
when
it
comes
to
the
Planning
Commission,
we've
got
the
hotel
ordinance,
probably
gonna,
go
there.
We
got
a
lot
of
things
going
on
there.
I
think
I
mean
if
there's
some
issue
down
the
road.
That's
get
taken
up.
AH
I,
just
don't
think
the
two
should
be
tied
in
to
each
other.
We
can
repoint
mr.
Gere
councilmember
Griffins
requests
that
whatever
it
is,
this
emails
about
the
spore
request
can
be
dealt
with.
So
if
the
motion
is
too
far
I'm
going
to
vote
against
it,
not
because
I
don't
think
it
should
be
looked
into
I
just
think
we
should
separate
the
two.
Let's
get
these
appointments
done.
There's
nothing
that
mr.
Gear's
done
that
we
know
of
to
disqualify
him.
AH
C
B
AG
B
B
B
We
did
have
Thank
You.
Mr.
chairman,
we
did
have
a
couple
of
acceptances
and
dedications
of
public
right-of-way
and
they
were
approved
by
the
committee
unanimously
and
since
we
did,
we
do
need
to
have
council
action
on
those
matters
under
j1a
would
ask
for
a
motion
to
approve
those
acceptances
and
dedications.
B
X
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
council
just
been
briefed.
We
discussed
that
there
were
we
and
finished
installing
the
check
valves
with
the
50/50
costs
split
with
CWS
that
was
approved.
It
approved
at
the
previous
council
meeting
on
both
South
edgers
and
Exchange
Street.
The
king
ug
project,
as
we
mentioned,
has
been
notified
for
the
rural
infrastructure
agency,
the
RA
that
they
have
we've
received
500,000
approximately
$500,000
for
that
project
and
we're
currently
negotiating
preliminary
design
with
the
consultant.
X
We
did
make
some
good
progress
in
a
couple
of
meetings
last
week
with
MUSC
and
Roper
hospital
towards
them,
offering
an
easement
to
dedicate
for
the
Earhart
shaft
project.
Sir,
continuing
with
that
the
low-battery
improvement
project,
the
qualifications
of
pre-qualifications
period
closed,
we
did
receive
10
submittals
on
that,
so
we're
going
through
those
firms
right
now
we're
moving
forward
to
bid
over
the
next
few
weeks,
the
market
Street
project,
we're
addressing
TRC
comments
at
this
point
and
then
councilman
Gregory.
You
had
asked
about
the
Willow
walk
subdivision
and
that
that
subdivision
is
your
mr.
X
prog
familiar
with,
has
a
phase
that
was
built
below
base
flood
elevation
at
the
time,
rather
than
making
the
homes
elevate.
At
that
time
they.
Basically
we
received
a
waiver
from
FEMA
with
the
city
to
allow
those
homes
to
continue
under
base
flood
elevation,
so
they
do
have
recurrent
flooding
and
large
storm
events.
We
did
offer
buyouts
to
a
number
of
the
properties
that,
in
that
neighborhood
and
a
number
of
those
property
owners
have
accepted
those
buyouts.
X
If
move
onto
the
floodplain
minute
after
so,
we
did
complete
demolition
on
the
entire
first
round
of
single
family
home
buyouts.
At
this
point
and
with
the
resolution
of
the
HOA,
that's
on
the
real
estate
agenda
we'll
be
able
to
move
forward
with
advertisement
for
the
demolition
of
the
multifamily
and
that
should
also
move
forward
and
be
demolished
this
summer.
Thank.
B
You
very
much
thank
you
and
then
finally,
we
had
an
executive
session
regarding
property,
prior
private
property,
encroachments
and
drainage
easements,
and
we
passed
a
motion
in
the
committee
to
ask
staff
to
make
a
more
formal
policy
recommendation
for
obtaining
the
easements
as
needed
for
these
smaller
drainage
projects.
Am
I
stating
that
correctly?
Yes,.
H
There
mister
me
and
the
reason
that
came
in,
because
what
we've
been
doing
and
trying
to
get
these
going
back
and
these
established
neighborhoods
and
getting
easements
and
talking
to
people
hoping
hoping
to
get
people
to
sign
off
on
it.
It
just
takes
too
long
and
the
only
way
we
can
help
older
neighborhoods
with
the
drainage
problems,
in
particular
with
the
gravity
flow,
green
drainage
problems,
because
we
have
to
have
a
way
to
put
in
a
ditch
and
get
in
it.
H
You
know,
services
what
we've
been
finding
out
is
it
takes
a
year
year-and-a-half,
some
people
sign
to
agree,
don't
and
then
we
have
to
end
up
filing
in
action
anyway.
So
this
was
quick
in
the
process
and
hopefully
all
of
us
and
everybody
not
districts
gonna,
be
affected
by
this,
in
particularly
the
over
here
Thank
You
summer.
AG
Shade,
yes,
sir
mr.
mayor
I
just
put
a
vibrate
on
but
councilman,
where
he's
mentioning.
In
particular,
we
had
two
pieces
of
property
in
my
district
on
Culpepper
Muller
Drive,
in
which
there
was
a
ditch
and
I
think
custom
of
woody
made
this
observation
earlier
in
his
report.
He
may
have
had
a
ditch,
but
there
was
no
easement
to
that
ditch
and
these
two
pieces
of
property.
AG
Our
vacation
point
Northridge
subdivision,
asks
you
that
a
ditch
was
there,
but
no
easement
to
the
ditch,
and
so
people
are
allowed
to
build
over
it
and
create
a
a
blockage
for
water
to
flow
out
of
it
and
I.
Think
we've
learned
that
in
some
of
our
older
subdivisions-
and
this
is
sort
of
more
of
a
common
problem,
so
this
is
this
motion
that
we
brought
on
the
floor
will
help
address
that
index.
Expedite
this
process
to
get
those
ditches
to
the
easement
ditches
and
we
can
maintain
them
and
clean
them
up
and.
H
Information
that
actually
constituent
came
to
councilman
moody
about
the
courtesy
on
our
stormwater
fee.
We
increased
the
stormwater
fee,
so
we
can
have
more
money.
Guess
what
this
extreme
turns
out.
We
we,
as
the
city
actually
can
give
a
courtesy
to
everybody
over
65,
so
they
won't
have
to
pay
a
stormwater
fee
at
all.
H
Now
we
have
to
make
a
decision
on
that.
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
we're
gonna
raise
the
money
needed
to
fix
these
drainage
problems.
We
have
to
include
everybody,
so
we
didn't
know
that
until
a
person
came
up
and
asked
councilman
moody
I
checked
with
CPW.
That
is
in
fact
the
case.
It
actually
flows
back
to
I
think
an
ordinance
that
was
passed
years
and
years
ago
way
before
we
had
start
having
all
these
rain
events
and
sunny
day
flooding.
So
that's.
AI
AH
You,
mr.
mayor,
we
had
a
meeting
this
afternoon
at
1:30.
We
had
one
item
that
need
to
be
taken
up.
We
have
an
ordinance
before
the
council
to
essentially
have
rules
and
regulations
in
our
parking
garages
be
enforceable
by,
among
others,
on
a
police
department.
It's
very
comprehensive.
It
is
nothing
drastic.
It
was
passed
unanimously
and
I
would
move
for
its
approval.
As
amended,
there
were
some
typos
by
the
way.
B
N
L
Miss
me
I
was
I.
Was
president
I'm
happy
to
report
this
part
of
the
committee?
We
reviewed
development
plans
for
Hanover
Street.
We
also
reviewed
to
2019
and
2020
federal
budget
and
as
well.
We
reviewed
and
approved
the
the
choice
neighborhood
initiative.
All
those
items
were
approved
unanimously
by
the
community.
I'll
move
for
the
adoption
report.
Okay,.
R
AA
L
A
B
B
N
I
Yes,
sir
I
have
a
hard
time
figured
out
what
we
change
stairs.
It
says
amended
to
incorporate
changes
to
Planned
Unit
development
guidelines,
conclude
the
conveyance
of
a
street
right-of-way
to
the
city.
What
does
that
mean?
We've
been
talking
both
on
the
23rd
and
May
14
about
the
conveyance
of
the
southern
time,
both
from
the
Martin
company
and
the
Kerr
track.
The
curves
I.
I
Don't
think
that
Street
by
the
way
that
was
first,
that
we've
been
talking
about
when
I
was
asking
for
the
pearls
council
said
we
have
additional
work
last
time
additional
work
to
do
on
the
agreement.
Well,
we
haven't
seen
the
agreement
because
it
says
attached
to
here,
but
then
the
bat
steer
to
so
that's
my
first
problem.
My
second
problem
is
to
southern
time
from
day
one
with
required
to
meet
the
Scouty
and
the
city's
version
of
what
the
southern
pitchfork
was
going
to
look
like.
I
We
also
we're
going
to
meet
with
county,
both
in
April
and
again
after
the
last
meeting
to
find
out
if,
in
reality,
that
was
done,
I
know
the
meeting
has
not
occurred
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what
this
we
changed
here,
because
we
got
them
attached
somewhere
and
you
know
Mike
over
with
a
little
while
ago,
back
when
we
were
talking
about
northern
Pittsburgh,
which
had
the
minor
change
about
three
or
four
pages
explaining
that.
But
that's
not
what's
happening
here
on
this
one.
I
It
just
got
like
hey
we're
the
development
guidelines
attached
here
to
that
incorporated
by
reference
okay.
So
we,
the
council,
have
asked
for
specific
things:
homes
during
three
meeting,
two
meetings
and
I,
don't
know
if
we
got
them
or
not.
A
second
thing
is
if
this
has
always
been
about
traffic
I
mean
from
day
one
in
I
mean
we're
not
talking
just
about
what's
happening
on
Johns
Island.
You
know
that
she
was
how
the
fridge
goes
to
James
Island.
We
have
Ruby
Lin
Drive.
I
AA
Remember
we
did
make
changes
to
the
PUD
consistent
with
what
was
discussed
last
meeting
and
that
was
sent
under
separate
cover
on
Friday
and
if
you
did
not
receive
that
I
apologize.
But
chip
is
here
and
he
worked
on
that
and
he
can
explain
the
changes
that
were
made
and
we
can
give
you
a
copy
of
that.
If
you
don't
have
it,
if
you,
for
whatever
reason
you
didn't
get
it
and
I
apologize.
AJ
AJ
The
exhibit
was
also
sent
to
you
at
the
same
time,
which
shows
the
outline
of
the
pitchfork
Road
and
it
does.
There
is
an
agreement
with
one
exception
and
that's
there's
a
little
area
outside
the
PUD
itself.
That's
owned
by
a
related
party
to
the
curse
and
I
told
everybody.
I
could
tell
this,
but
I
I
can't
include
something
in
a
pub
that
binds
an
adjacent
property
owner.
That's
not
in
the
city
of
Charleston.
AJ
I
AJ
AJ
AJ
B
There
there's
no
county
plan
right
now
for
the
southern
time
of
the
southern
pitchfork
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
address.
If
I.
May
you
know
your
second
section
about
my
meeting
with
the
county,
I
did
not
have
a
physical
meeting.
I
spoke
to
staff
and
I
spoke
to
a
couple
of
council
members,
including
the
chairman.
We
did
conduct
a
meeting
in
my
office
with
mr.
Cerf
and
and
mark
I
forget
mark
last
night,
so
we
can
control
what
we
can
control.
B
We
can't
control
what
County
Council
does
going
forward
at
this
point,
given
the
changes
that
that
the
county
made
to
their
their
current
roadway
plans,
which
includes
building
the
northern
pitchfork
and
the
addition
of
intersection
improvements
to
River,
Road
and
Maybach
highway
beyond
the
work
that
was
done
last
year,
they're
gonna
make
two
left
lane
turns
on
the
Maybank
off
of
River
Road.
That's
part
of
the
North
pitchfork
it's
a
separate
project
but
they're
going
to
basically
do
them
at
the
same
time,
so
they're
committed
to
that.
B
They
are
not
committed
to
funding
the
southern
pitchfork
or
tyne.
At
this
point
they
at
I
guess
it
was
about
a
year
ago
when
the
city
and
mr.
Kerr
met
with
the
county,
and
we
addressed
the
issue
of
the
conflict
or
the
potential
conflict
with
with
526
just
that
the
county
staff
never
resolved
issues
that
they
enumerated
to
me
again
and
in
conversation
since
our
last
meeting
about
what
what
they
call
the
geometry
of
the
road,
the
impact
of
wetlands
and
the
impact
on
trees.
In
fact,
the
new
alignment
that
posed
by
mr.
B
Kerr,
it
has
less
wetlands
impact
and
the
formal
one
did
and
less
impact
on
the
trees.
But
regardless
of
that,
the
county
has
never
approved
the
the
project
for
funding,
and
so
it
would
entail
re
engaging
with
the
county
with
with
this
new
right-of-way
and
work
with
their
staff
and
get
them
comfortable
with
the
geometry,
the
impact
on
the
wetlands
and
the
trees
and
then
get
their
support
to
even
go
to
County
Council
and
ask
for
them
to
consider
funding.
For
so
I
I
did
what
I
shared
with
you
that
I'd
in
all
due
diligence.
B
I
I
That
is
correct,
but
I
got
my
the
word
I
got
was
we.
We
had
the
agreement
in
accordance
with
our
last
meeting
that
we
would
still
up
to
them.
We
would
we'd
the
city,
we
control
the
Fitzroy,
what
there
is
of
it,
the
remnants
of
the
Fitzroy,
yes
or
no.
That
was
fair.
First
question:
did
the
agreement
say
that
the
city
had
the
pitch,
for
that's
that's
important
for
a
reason.
B
I
The
second
part
of
that
there's
a
right
of
rescission.
Is
that
not
correct?
If
we
don't
do
the
next
step,
which
we
don't
even
know
what
the
first
step
really
is,
yet
they
can.
If
we
don't
get
everything
done
then
affordance
with
whatever
this
document
says,
then
they
come
back
on
out
and
take
property
back
true
or
false.
A
true!
It's!
Okay!
That's
okay!.
AJ
Kind
of
hurrying
through
because
I
know
you
have
your
Henry's.
If
we
don't
build
it
within
ten
years,
they
could
take
the
property
back
and
the
other
thing
that
they
have
the
right
to
do
is:
if
we
don't
construct
it,
when
they're
ready
for
it,
then
they
could
go
ahead
and
begin
the
construction
process
at
their
sole
cost
and
expense.
AJ
I
We
have
some
unknown
requirement
now
for
this
same
pitch
fork
that
the
city
is
involved
in,
but
we're
not
sure
the
details
from
what
I
just
heard
and
if
we
don't
do
it
real,
quick
they're
going
to
take
it
back.
Okay,
so
it
seems
to
me
like,
without
any
County
involvement,
what
have
we
done
and
we're
right
back
to
square
one?
Nothing.
This
happened.
I
I've
wasted
a
whole
lot
of
my
time
talking
to
y'all
on
both
the
the
April
23rd
May
4th
and
we're
right
back
where
we
started
from
and
everything
that
the
council
said
has
basically
not
occurred,
and
that's
okay
with
me,
I
guess,
because
you
know
I'm
not
real
sure
how
we
got
to
do
it,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
this
thing
says
and
you
know
I
wish.
I
was
told
the
other
day.
Well,
no
I'm
well
I'd
like
to
go.
Go
there.
I
AI
AH
Very
briefly,
mr.
mayor
I
mean
it
is
not
unprecedented
for
this
council
to
do
the
following,
which
is
to
approve
something
which
also
needs
some
help
from
other
bodies,
including
the
county
and
then
resolve
that
once
we
do
this
to
send
you
with
the
resolution
with
this
council
to
go
out
there
and
advocate
for
the
funding
of
the
building
of
the
southern
pitchfork,
which
is
exactly
what
we
need.
So
this
is
a
step
we're
getting
the
property.
AH
We've
got
the
property,
you
take
the
property
and
a
resolution
of
this
council
of
the
county
and
go
fight
for
it.
Let's
go
get
the
southern
pitchfork
built.
We
got
ten
years.
We
should
be
able
to
do
it
in
ten
years.
So
I
don't
know
how
we
do
that
I
mean.
Are
you
ready
to
go
forward
with
the
resolution
from
this
council
and
saying
we've
got
the
land
you
go
build.
It.
B
Know
it's
widely
advocate
for
this
to
be
done
and
I
think
it's
on
some
Charleston
book
come
hell
or
high
water.
We
we
need
this
infrastructure
improvement.
This
is
the
first
step
to
getting
it
done.
It's
the
same
thing.
The
PUD
does
allow
for
reduction
in
density,
which
is
significant.
The
whoever
ends
up
developing
the
property
will
still
have
to
comply
with
not
just
our
own
regulations
but
those
of
the
South
Carolina
Department
of
Transportation
and
our
short
new
stormwater
requirements
that
will
be
put
in
place
later
this
year.
B
So
you
know
this
is
a
first
step
to
getting
the
infrastructure
done.
I
know
there
are
some
folks
that
would
like
to
see
nothing
new
be
built,
but
but
I
think
this
is
a
fair
thing
for
us
to
do
to
approve
this
PUD
and
it's
a
fair
thing
to
do
in
order
to
provide
for
the
future
infrastructure
to
start
by
getting
the
road,
the
right-of-way
for
the
road,
and
without
that,
what
we
would
we
would
not
be
able
to
go
to
step
two
and
in
follow.
AH
C
You
you
just
mentioned
I
expressed
myself
two
weeks
ago
so
and
my
I
I
appreciate
all
of
the
time
and
the
attention
that
mr.
Karim
current
in
particular,
has
given
my
concerns.
I
I
know
that
I'm
coming,
you
know
new
to
this
party
in
terms
of
how
long
this
particular
property
has
been
under
consideration
and
reworking,
and
evaluation
and
negotiation.
So
I
fully
expect
that
process.
C
We
have
a
stormwater,
comprehensive,
stormwater
manual,
rewrite
that's
in
process
and
hopefully
we're
all
going
to
be
in
agreement
to
pass
it.
This
fall,
but
I
want
to
hear
from
someone
that
can
assure
me
that
if
we
pass
the
PUD
tonight
that
that
doesn't
mean
that
they'll
be
vested
under
the
existing
regulations.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
true,
but
that
that's
a
huge
item
for
me
and
then
the
third
one
is
yes,
we
want
the
pitchfork.
There
was
no
question
about
it.
C
C
Systems
until
they
know
the
answer
to
that
so
in
in
my
framework,
those
would
be
the
three
cards
that
we
would
wait
to
see
how
they
turn
over
and
how
that
impacts.
Our
decision-making
about
this
putt
I
tried
to
ask
mr.
Kerr
that
I
admire
the
fact
that
they're
leaving
density
on
the
table
I
think
you
know
that's
always
a
big
carrot
for
every
developer
that
comes
in
and
says,
I
could
do
bigger
and
more
and
I'm
agreeing
to
do
less.
C
Mr.
Kurt
told
me
that
he
thinks
that
the
hundred
and
sixteen
single-family
houses
are
the
only
thing.
That's
gonna
go
in
the
whole
residential
section
and
I
know
that
they've
cut
back
that
number
from
their
first
offer
by
50
in
the
last
two
weeks,
but
that's
still
75
that
are
on
their
list
of
possible
that
they're
not
talking
about
so
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
C
The
the
idea
of
waiting
for
two
years
to
see
the
permits
for
the
for
the
commercial
zone.
A
lot
can
happen
in
two
years
and
so
yeah
we'll
have
a
lot
of
density.
That's
you
know
on
paper
and
if
the
economy
stays
strong,
then
that
density
is
going
to
dictate
the
life
on
John's
Island
on
that
part
of
John's
Island.
C
Nobody
thought
of
a
hotel
when
this
was
first
being
considered
how
many
ever
1012
years
ago,
so
I
don't
know
where
that's
come
from,
but
that
gives
me
and
I
know
a
lot
of
residents.
You
know
huge
concerns.
I
know
that
I'm
in
a
minority,
and
so
I
only
want
to
say
that
I
really
hope
that
we
make
good
and
wise
decisions
with
the
information
that
we're
going
to
be
getting.
I
would
like
to
know
the
answer
about
the
stormwater
manual.
Let's
say
it's
not
passed
until
at
the
very
end
of
the
year
or
January.
C
If
our
election,
you
know,
campaign
season
takes
us
over
and
we
don't
decide
to
do
things
like
that.
So
if
it
doesn't
pass
until
January
and
this
puhd
is
coming
in
for
subdivision-
which
is
the
next
thing
to
happen
correct,
then
then,
if
they
get
that
subdivision
approval,
this
fall,
they
would
be
under
the
existing
stormwater
regulations,
correct
because
they
would
have
vested
rights
so
that
that's
a
big
concern
to
me.
M
Just
loaded,
the
caveat
that's
been
saying
on
mr.
McQueen
II
may
have
additional
information
about
our
previous
interpretation
is
that
the
stormwater
regulations
that
are,
in
effect,
the
time
or
the
stormwater
regulations
that
are
applied,
the
state
investing,
does
not
apply
to
stormwater
regulations
in
our
interpretation,
and
that's
that's
how
if
we
pass
new
regulations,
those
would
be
the
ones
applied
to
this
project
if
it
is
still
anywhere
in
the
TRC
processes.
How
we
would
interpret
that.
C
J
T
I
mean
yeah.
This
is
for
the
past
several
years.
This
has
been
a
very
open
working
relationship.
You
know
all
the
way
through.
We
would
certainly
want
to
continue
that
and
long
as
they
were
reasonable
requests
that
you
know
the
project
could
tolerate.
I
think
would
be
acceptable
to
continue
in
working
on.
H
Words,
Thank
You.
Mr.
myth,
you
know
we
witness
the
the
putt
is
the
powerful
planning
team
and
it
gives
you
a
tremendous
amount
of
information
upfront
and
that's
what
we
witness
in
this
look
at
how
many
times
we
rezone
the
property
having
no
information
upfront
when
what's
going
to
come
as
a
result
of
that
information
being
upfront
and
the
courage
didn't
have
to
enter
into
time,
they
did
that
voluntarily.
They
wasn't
compelled
into
the
putt
which
opened
up
all
this
conversation
about
the
southern
pitchfork
number
units,
how
many
they
can
do,
reducing
those
units
etc.
H
An
accessory
and
you're
exactly
right,
I
know
my
English
teacher
would
teach
you
wouldn't
be
good
on
that,
but
you're
exactly
right.
In
there
the
putt
has
gotten
better.
The
plan
has
gotten
better
and
I.
Don't
you
know
councilman
Wagner,
you
know
we've
worked
like
hand
and
glove,
but
you
have
pushed
this
to
the
point
to
where
it
has
gotten
better
for
your
people
on
Jon's
arms.
So
as
we
go
to
the
county,
hopefully
to
advocate
for
the
money
to
fix
it
to
build
up
our
southern
pitchfork,
we
got
a
rally.
H
H
H
The
funding
formula
was:
came,
the
council
county
council
didn't
know
it,
but
we
went
to
county
council
got
money.
Then
we
went
to
the
state.
Now
we
asked
in
the
nation,
eight
nine
million
I,
don't
know
how
much
it
cost
to
fill
that
less
than
ten
million
the
bill
that
that's
within
the
capacity
of
County
Council.
But
you
know
what
the
people's
got
to
be
behind
it
and
with
your
leadership
and
others.
The
mayor
around
this
table
people
that
care
about
John's
Allen.
H
You
can
get
that
kind
of
money
to
build
that
shop
in
pitchbook.
So
please
take
advantage
of
the
PUD
process
and
don't
discourage
people
from
using
it,
because
a
lot
of
people
don't
like
to
use
it,
because
you
have
to
put
this
information
upfront
and
it
has
benefited
the
cities
of
Charleston.
So
thank
you.
Why.
L
I've
had
some
reservations,
of
course,
about
this
putt
from
the
beginning
and
really
it
was.
It
really
was
what
we
all
have
reservations
with
and
that's
not
necessarily
acquiring
the
land
which
the
KERS
have
been
very
willing
to
donate.
As
far
as
being
able
to
do
the
Sun
pitchfork
it's
it's,
the
the
biggest
liability
is
the
building
of
the
road,
and
you
all
know
that
we
don't
build
bridges
and
we
don't
build
roads
in
the
city.
It's
not
what
we
do
and
we
don't
have
a
funding
source
to
do
it.
L
So
my
fear
is
what
happens
if,
if
we,
if
we
press
forward
with
the
expectation
in
a
10-year
time
frame
in
order
to
complete
it
and
if
the
county
is
not
inclined
to
get
to
be
supportive
of
building
it,
it's
going
to
create
a
liability
for
the
city
of
Charleston,
because
the
public
outcry
is
going
to
be
y'all
accepted.
The
road
donation
y'all
accepted
the
responsibility
to
get
it
built.
You
couldn't
get
the
county
to
do
it
in
your
time.
L
The
time
the
clock
is
ticking
and
it's
now
your
responsibility,
city
of
Charleston
to
own
up
and
pony
up
and
do
the
deal,
and
we
all
know
what
challenges
we
face
in
the
future.
We
talked
about
maintenance
issues.
Tonight
we
we've
got
to
really
think
through
this
process.
I
think
and
my
biggest
issue
is
we're.
Gonna
get
I,
think
we're
going
to
create
a
liability
for
the
city,
and
you
know
quite
candidly
I'm
not
sure
how
well
we're
going
to
be
received.
L
If
the
mayor
takes
this
to
the
county
right
now,
given
the
fact
that
just
had
a
fairly
lengthy
discussion
that
ultimately
is
gonna
cost
about
three
million
dollars
for
police
officers
and
schools,
because
there
was
a
disagreement
on
how
we're
gonna
do
that
so
I'm
not
sure
how
well
received
this
is
going
to
be.
We
just
cost
the
county
three
million
dollars
which,
in
their
mind
I
think
is
gonna,
be
how
they
perceive
it.
So
I
I,
just
I
worry
that
that
we
we
create
liabilities
for
ourselves.
L
We
don't
think
far
enough
in
advance
about
the
situation.
I
think
that's
where
we're
going
to
end
up
and
I
think
we
all
recognize
this
needs
to
happen,
but
if
the
county's
not
prepared
to
get
on
board
early-
or
at
least
conceptually
say
yes,
we're
in
agreement
with
getting
it
built
and
we'll
help
find
the
funding,
but
I
haven't
heard
that
yet
at
all
actually
I've
heard
the
exact
opposite.
It's
not
on
the
list
and
it's
not
gonna
get
on
the
list
for
some
time.
Thank
you.
B
AI
I
want
to
kind
of
tie
your
comments
with
mr.
seedings
comments,
because
this
is
not
a
lot
unlike
hi
526
there's
a
lot
of
us
around
this
table,
they've
been
fighting
for
I-526
and
the
pressure
keeps
mount.
The
pressure
keeps
mouth
because
the
traffic
goes
up.
These
people
could
develop
this
property
without
theirs.
Given
this
land
or
anything
else
and
they're,
the
traffic
is
going
to
come.
AI
We're
gonna
need
this
southern
time
at
some
point
also,
and
so
exactly
what
mister
seeking
said
is
that
as
the
pressure
on
us
keeps
mounting,
and
it
will
that
we've
got
to
be
advocates
for
this
property.
If
we
can't
what
we're
what
we're
asking
this
developer
is
hey
give
us
all.
You
can
give
us
and
then
we're
not
going
to
give
you
anything,
because
we
don't
have
any
guarantees
and
I.
Don't
think
you
should
do
that.
I
mean
they've.
AI
Given
us
everything
we've
asked
for
that
they
can
give
to,
and
so
as
we
develop,
this
puhd
it'll
get
better,
but
we
are
gonna
have
to
be
advocates
for
this
other
time,
because
you're
right
they've
got
it's
not
on
their
radar.
You
know,
I've
asked
you
a
couple
people
that
I
know
pretty
well,
it's
not
there.
AI
But
anyway,
I
think
the
right
thing
to
do
to
buy
it
is
prove
it
and
keep
up
that
bed.
Pressure
I
mean
we're
sit
here.
Talking
about
the
hotel,
I'd
be
if
we'd
have
had
a
putt
or
something
to
tell
us
exactly
where
that
hotels,
gonna
go
and
I
was
gonna.
Look
at
everything.
We
would
be
worried
about
all
these
overlay
districts
and
everything,
but
that's
what
this
putt
does
and
kind
of
narrows
it
down
keep
the
focus.
AI
AG
AJ
We
have
no
obligation
to
build
the
road
and
weak,
indeed
it
back
to
them
at
any
time.
If
we
don't
want
to
build
the
road
so
they're,
you
know
obviously
you're
concerned
about
having
the
traffic
issues
out
there.
The
other
thing
I
did
want
to
point
out.
Is
they
don't
have
the
obligation
to
deed
us,
the
road
until
they
need
a
certificate
of
occupancy
they
to
get
any
certificate
of
occupancy
out
there,
they've
got
to
deed
us.
The
road
and
the
deed
will
then
be
recorded
that
that's
when
the
ten
years
starts
to
run.
AJ
AG
That's
what
I
was
reading
it
on
on
your
redline
version,
as
a
condition
of
approval
and
prior
to
the
issuance
of
a
certificate
of
occupancy
for
any
building
constructed
within
the
park
boundaries
owner
shell,
D
to
the
city,
the
rule,
property,
eccentric,
cetera,
dealing
with
the
sudden
southern
pitchfork
and
I
think
you
have
in
here.
The
city
has
shall
have
no
obligation
to
construct
the
southern
line
of
the
picture,
so
that
covers
us
and
it
answers
that
liability
issue.
This
would
be
our
call
for
the
question.
B
3
comes
remember,
Jackson
as
well.
The
motion
carries
Nexus
our
bills
up
for
second
reading.
We
have
yeah
one
through
fourteen
up
for
second
reading.
Is
there
any
discussion
and
we've
got
a
second
right
yeah?
Is
there
any
discussion
on
any
one
of
those
numbers
1
through
14
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
now
for
third
reading
and
a
ratification
of
items
1
through
14
been
moved
and
seconded
any
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes
habit.
So
next
is
Bill's
up
the
first
reading.
B
C
I
just
have
a
question
about
how
this
would
actually
work.
So
what
this
would
this
be?
As
the
council
members
decide
to
bring
something
forward
under
this
item
on
the
agenda,
would
it
have
to
be
placed
there
prior
to
the
agenda
meeting
gender
set,
or
is
it
going
to
be
more
like
a
citizen's
petition
and
we
bring
up
bring
a
topic
up
on
the
spot,
know.
A
AI
B
C
B
B
I
would
just
like
to
make
a
brief.
Thank
you
to
those
who
served
on
the
task
force
and
I'm
going
to
fall
out
with
a
name.
Someone
present
here:
Susan
baths,
Winslow
hasty
councilmember,
Gary,
white
councilmember,
Dudley
Gregory,
councilmember
Mike,
seeking
Helen
Hill,
Deborah,
Pal,
Anderson,
Christopher
King,
with
Preservation
Society,
Jimmy
glasses,
who
represented
the
hotel
industry,
Tim,
Muller,
neighborhood
representative,
and,
although
listed
as
an
alternate
John,
marshland
I
think
he
participated
more
than
anybody
on
the
task
force.
B
So
thank
you
special
thanks
to
John
he
subbed
in
for
someone
completely
when
when
they
didn't
attend
one
of
the
meetings
and
then
at
the
next
meeting,
we
just
asked
him
to
join
us
anyway,
but
even
though
everybody
was
present
because
his
remarks
and
additions
to
the
matter
at
hand
was
were
very
meaningful.
So
thank
you
all
who
served
as
was
stated
earlier
tonight
by
a
number
of
folks
during
citizens.
Participation
I
think
it
was
a
very
good
result,
and
so
the
floor
is
now
open.
Council,
member
moody.
AI
AI
B
AI
AI
The
thing
that
I
was
dealing
with
I
didn't
realize
there
was
a
difference,
but
the
the
item
that
I
was
dealing
with
was
an
exception
and
not
a
variance
and
there's
a
process
within
the
BCA
that
once
they
approve
something
that,
if
it's
an
exception,
you've
got
five
business
days
to
appeal.
If
it's
a
variance,
you've
got
fifteen
days,
I
believe
too
appealing
and
basically
the
appeal
comes
to
City
Council
before
it
goes
to
Circuit
Court.
Is
that
am
I
right
on
that.
AJ
And
there's
actually
case
law
that
says
you
can't
set
up
the
process
to
go
through
City
Council
from
a
BCA
review.
It's
considered
an
independent
sort
of
entity
from
the
city
to
create
some
sort
of
you
know
an
independent
reviewing
body
under
state
law.
You
can
appeal
within
30
days
either
decision
to
the
circuit
court
and
under
our
ordinances,
I'm,
not
sure
about
the
variances
but
are
under
our
ordinances.
You
can
move
for
the
BCA
to
reconsider
their
decision
within
five
days
of
the
date.
AJ
AI
AJ
It
you
set
up
the
conditions
that
they
have
to
consider
and
the
discretion
that
they
have
through
guidelines
that
are
structured
such
that
you
know
people
can
sort
of
figure
out,
relatively
speaking,
you
know
where
their
application
fits
in
the
process,
so
you
don't
get
to
set
up
the
structure,
which
is
with
miss
ordinance,
you're
setting
up
you're
dictating
what
the
BCA
has
to
consider
for
special
exception.
Under
variances
state
law
is
almost
more
or
less
preempts
with
the
process
under
the
state
statute.
Yes,
sir,
all
right.
J
Got
a
couple
of
questions
and
I
would
to
would
like
to
thank
the
task
force.
I
think
that
they
put
a
ton
of
time
and
effort
into
a
short
timespan
to
come
up
with
a
really
great
ordinance.
But
my
questions
are
more
of
in
between
first
and
second
reading,
I'd
like
to
get
some
more
information
from
our
staff
number,
one
I
would
like
to
know
these
exceptions.
The
the
a
through
in
or
M
or
whatever.
J
Why
they
were
put
in
I
would
like
to
get
some
commentary
from
the
task
force
of
why
they
put
those
in
there
I've
thought
that
we
would
have
that
going
into
this
meeting,
but
we
haven't
got
it
yet,
which
is
fine,
because
I
think
that
we
could
definitely
do
some
more
small
tinkering
to
this.
One
thing
that
jumped
out
right
away
to
me
was
item
M.
The
proposed
accommodation
use
will
not
result
in
there
being
more
than
blank
full-service
hotels
in
the
city.
J
Are
we
going
to
come
up
with
that
number
or
as
Planning
Department
going
to
come
up
with
that
number
look?
Mike's
you
saying
we
are
so
that's
something
that
we're
gonna
have
to
discuss,
but
also
I
would
like
to
know
we're
if
this
were
to
go
into
effect.
I
would
like
to
see
some
sort
of
statistics
about
how
many
less
hotels
would
have
been
approved
in
the
last
year
or
something
along
those
lines,
because
I
like
to
see
what
kind
of
correlation
how
much
good
this
is.
Gonna
do,
because
this
to
me,
we
talked
about.
J
J
J
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
I'd
like
to
see
statistic,
wise,
I,
think
that
would
really
help
my
decision
making,
if,
if,
if
this
doesn't
help
them
that
I
just
think,
we
ought
to
just
put
a
moratorium
on
hotels
for
two
years,
but
I'd
like
to
do
this
first
I
think
that
this
is
a
really
great
document
and
I
really
can
everybody
who
worked
on
it.
I
just
want
to
see
how
much
good
it's
gonna
do.
Thanks.
C
So
something
about
if,
if
the
hotel
that's
being
proposed,
is
gonna,
take
take
away
existing
units
dwelling
units,
then
there's
a
whole
description
in
here
about
how
we're
gonna
replace
them
and
they
can
be
replaced
off-site
within
a
radius
of
a
quarter
mile
from
the
site.
If
the
proposed
off-site,
like
location,
does
not
result
in
an
over
concentration
of
low-income
households.
I
don't
know
what
that
means,
but
that
sounds
like
something
we
don't
want
to
do
it.
C
So
I
did
my
homework
and
it's
it's
referenced
in
item
n
that
whenever
a
hotel
is
going
in,
they
have
to
contribute
to
the
city
of
Charleston's,
affordable,
workforce
housing
account
with
a
fee
calculated
in
a
corner
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
section
54
299,
and
that's
our
mu
workforce
way
of
calculating
cash
and
lieu
fees,
but
but
that
whole
formula
is
tied
directly
to
how
many
units
are
going
to
be
workforce
and
in
a
particular
mixed
use.
Property
and
I
don't
see
any
correlation
to
that
with
the
hotel
or
you.
N
AA
C
They're,
where
they're
required
to
work,
they
can't
tell
the
commute
they
have
to
work
in
the
hotel
in
the
in
the
restaurant,
in
the
footings
of
an
industry
in
the
transportation
industry.
You
know
where
they're
boots
on
the
ground,
so
I'm
definitely
gonna
pass
this
as
first
reading,
but
I
hope
we
can
figure
out
a
way
to
have.
Maybe
a
joint
planning
commission
council
discussion
about
it.
Maybe
we
can
all
convene
in
the
plan
and
if
their
invitation,
but
I
only
have
some
very
specific
questions.
C
B
Everyone
will
be
welcome
to
address
specific
questions
to
planning
and
then
we're
going
to
Planning,
Commission
and
you'll
be
welcome
to
attend
there,
of
course,
and
then
the
task
force
will
meet
again
and
then
you
know
four
of
us
are
on
it,
but
I
certainly
welcome
you
at
count
10.
When
we
come
back
there,
so
I
think
we
got
lots
of
opportunities
to
tweak
it
even
a
little
more
counseling
I'm
wearing
yeah.
H
H
AJ
H
G
AJ
You
could
not
apply.
It
retroactively
lead
to
properties
that
already
have
special
exception
permits
under
state
law.
They
have
a
two-year
window
to
utilize
those
permits
and
construct
and
complete
their
properties
and
then
get
the
one-year
extensions
that
we've
talked
about
before,
but
once
they
have
a
special
exception.
We
can't
I
think
there's
two
conditions.
If
they
make
a
material
misrepresentation
to
the
BCA,
then
the
BCA
can
hold
a
hearing
and
try
to
revoke
it
and
there's
one
other
condition.
L
White
yeah,
okay,
quick
comments
and
I
did
serve
on
the
committee
and
chip.
Maybe
I
can
give
you
just
a
couple
of
things
to
just
take
aways
from
this
evening.
Try
to
incorporate
just
some
things
that
after
I
had
some
more
opportunity
to
digest
this.
Some
thoughts
that
came
up
under
item
eight
under
those
things
that
were
to
be
considered
as
part
of
the
BGA
process.
It
spoke
specifically
to
land
use
within
500
feet
of
a
one
accommodation,
another
and
I
get.
L
The
intent
was
about
the
diversity
of
uses,
but
one
of
the
things
I
thought
about
is
if,
as
long
as
we're
considering
these
as
factors
as
part
of
the
decision-making
process
and
not
just
an
arbitrary,
you
know,
the
answer
is
no.
You
can't
do
it
because
of
if
we
have
incorporated
if
it
becomes
a
sort
of
a
no
situation,
I
think
that
we
end
up
with
sort
of
a
de
facto
spot
zoning.
L
So
I
would
just
ask
that
we,
you
know,
for
the
test
of
the
law,
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
find
ourselves
getting
tested
legally.
If
it's
applied
incorrectly.
The
other
item
on
item
11.
Is
it
talked
about
Germany,
just
just
demonstrated
provisions
for
off
street
parking
and
what
I
understand
more
and
more
having
developers
who
are
using
mechanical
parking
of
stacked
parking
and
whatnot
and
I?
Don't
think
that
our
current
ordinance
it
doesn't
provide
for
it,
but
it
doesn't
disallow
it.
L
But
one
of
the
things
that
would
might
maybe
recommend
that
we
encourage
is
that
we
add
to
this
a
ballet,
assisted
or
valley,
operated
mechanical
parking
as
an
option
so
that
we
can
go
ahead
and
spell
that
out
for
that
opportunity
and
then
the
last
one
and
this
one
I
guess
you
know.
Maybe
we
got
late
in
the
evening
when
we
were
going
through
this
but
item
17.
It
simply
states
the
number
of
sleeping
units
proposed
as
part
of
the
accommodations
use,
but
doesn't
say
anything
else.
So
it's
a
little
vague
I'm,
not
sure.
L
If
I
can
remember
exactly
what
it
was
we
were
trying
to
accomplish.
We
took
a
lot
out,
but
we
replaced
it
with
a
very
simple
statement.
So
I
guess
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
I
know
what
it
what
in
fact
well
what
we
were
trying
to
accomplish.
I
just
can't
recall
we
had
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
things
happen
all
at
once
and
then
I
would
like
to
say
and
thank
the
mayor
for
listening
and
taking
my
plea
or
our
plea
to
communicate
and
to
go
through
this
process.
L
L
We
would
have
done
this
about
three
and
a
half
years
ago,
because
I
think
we
could
have
eliminated
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
consternation
on
all
parties
involved,
but
I
do
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
at
least
gotten
to
this
point
and
I
think
that
we're
in
a
position
where
now,
where
I'm
not
saying
we
don't
have
a
little
bit
of
tweaking
to
do
but
I
think
where
this
was
proof
positive.
If
you
get
everybody
to
the
table,
Europa's
leaves
and
you're
willing
to
negotiate
and
work.
AH
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
I'm
from
embassy,
Thank
You.
Mr.
mayor.
That's
right,
where's,
Laurie,
Yarborough!
That's
that's!
That's
what
she
calls
me
all
the
time
it's
great.
So
thank
you
for
letting
me
serve.
Thank
you
for
doing
all
this.
Mr.
mayor
I
thought
it
was
a
good
collaborative
process.
As
someone
who
sat
on
the
inside
looking
out
on
this
to
my
fellow
council
members,
this
I
think
is
a
good
first
start.
It's
not
perfect.
It
might
not
even
be
great.
AH
It's
pretty
good
a
couple
things
I'd
like
to
just
point
out
before
we
send
it
to
the
Planning
Commission
that
we
should
clean
up
and
I
talked
to
mr.
Lindsay
about
this
today,
and
maybe
he
wants
to
get
to
the
microphones
sort
of
just
to
sort
of
add
in
to
my
comments
as
to
item
M,
there's
a
reason
that
it's
blank
there,
where
we
have
blank
full-service
hotels
as
because
we
weren't
really
sure
how
many
fitting
the
definition
full-service
hotels
are
in
the
city.
I
talked
with
mr.
M
M
M
AH
AH
I
will
tell
you
that
the
consensus
inside
of
the
of
the
task
force
was
ever
whatever
the
number
was
plus
three
or
four
was
what
should
go
into
this
blank
whatever.
If
it
was
seven,
we
agreed
that
there
should
be
three
or
four
more
full-service
hotels,
and
that
would
be
the
cap
on
that.
And
then,
if
one
out
of
one
went
out
of
service,
there
would
be
room
for
another
ones.
AH
So
I
don't
know
how
we're
gonna
fill
in
that
blank,
but
I
don't
think
we
can
send
something
to
Planning
Commission
with
a
blank
and
have
them
review
it.
So
I
think
we
should
probably
insert
the
number
four
for
safety
and
I
would
move
that.
We
do
that
for
now,
with
the
recommendation
to
the
point
with
the
observation,
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
task
force
is
going
to
review
it
again,
but
it
will
tell
you
I
think
that
number
will
be
looked
unfavorably
by
the
task
force,
just
an
observation,
more
complicated
and.
AH
AH
AJ
AH
More
than
no
more
than
four
the
next
one
is
a
little
more
complicated
I'm,
not
sure
how
we
figure
it
out
tonight,
but
I
do
want
to
put
it
on
a
radar
on
particularly
councilmember
Gregory,
who
fought
so
hard
for
provision.
N
provision
n
is
an
important
provision
because
it
does
allow
us
to
take
advantage
of
development,
our
city
where
people
are
profiting
and
get
into
the
attainable
housing
game,
which
is
we
need
to
do.
AH
However,
provision
n
as
its
drafted
is
unenforceable
just
so
you
know
it
is
a
fee
calculated
in
accordance
with
the
provision
of
six
and
fifty
four
to
ninety
two
point,
two
which,
if
you
pull
it
up,
is
a
very
complicated
section
of
our
zoning
ordinance
that
was
put
in
place
during
mu
workforce
housing
provisions
that
we
put
in
there
and
it's
calculated
as
council
member
Jackson,
pointed
out
on
based
on
the
number
of
units
it's
complicated.
It
doesn't
work
here,
so
we
need
to
have
a
formula.
This
has
to
be
either
a
straight.
AH
Can
I
just
finish:
yeah,
either
a
straight
fee
which
I
think
our
legal
counsel
is
gonna.
Tell
us
we
can't
do
I,
don't
know
yet,
but
we'll
see,
or
it's
got
to
be
a
fee
in
lieu
of
something
and
right
now
is
drafted.
It's
not
so
I,
don't
know
how
we
clean
that
up,
particularly
councilmember
Gregory
I.
Think
we
need
some
collaborative
process
on
that,
but
I
do
think
we
need
to
clean
it
up
before.
AH
It
goes
to
the
Planning
Commission,
because
if
we
don't
it'll
come
back
to
us
and
we're
gonna
get
in
the
spin
cycle
again-
and
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
So
my
suggestion
for
purposes
of
tonight
is
we
asked
our
legal
counsel,
our
planning
staff
and,
in
particular,
councilmember
Gregory,
to
come
up.
Look
at
look
at
the
provision
in
the
in
the
zoning
ordinance
that
exists.
Five.
AH
Fifty
four
to
ninety
two
point,
two
C,
which
is
complicated,
but
it's
tied
into
units
and
rental
units
only
and
all
that
and
figure
out
what
this
fee
is
in
lieu
of,
and
there
are
some
options
by
the
way
in
the
full-service,
hotels
and
one
of
the
things
I've
always
advanced
and
I.
Believe
it
to
be
the
case.
We
should
require
full-service
hotels
to
park
on-site
and
the
way
to
do
that
is
make
a
park
underground.
I
mean
we've
done
that
with
the
Bennett
hotel.
AH
AH
But
it's
got
to
be
tied
into
something
in
lieu
of,
because
I
think
it
was
a
straight
fee
that
creates
some
other
issues
and
I
don't
want
it,
but
but
and
again
it's
something
we
talked
about
today,
so
just
as
drafted
I,
just
don't
want
us
to
get
into
place
where
this
goes
off
into
the
hinterlands
and
we
have
some
questions
about
the
legality
of
it.
Let's
address
it
on
the
front
end
before
it
gets
to
the
Planning
Commission,
so
I
just
like
to
hear
from
mr.
Lindsey.
AH
M
M
AH
Code
for
we
need
to
do
so
anyway.
Mr.
mr.
mayor,
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
motion
is,
but
my
motion
is
before
the
sits,
the
Planning
Commission,
that
we
need
to
put
a
provision
in
there.
That
is
understandable
to
the
people
getting
in
the
business
and
enforceable
from
our
legal
staff,
and
it's
not
a
straight
all
right
flat
fee,
because
I
don't
think
we
can
do
that
so
with
that
I
do
want
to
thank
everybody.
This
is
a
good
start.
It's
gonna
change,
a
good
that
I
think
as
we
go,
but
off
we
go
anyway.
AH
D
Component
that
we're
not
really
using
I
think
our
housing
director
needs
to
be
a
part
of
any
of
this
discussion
right
because
she
knows
the
rules
better
than
any
of
us
and
I
think
when
we
talked
being,
you
I
think
somehow
time
graduated.
So
we
can
sort
of
work
all
that
out,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
very
important
that
our
directive
housing
be
a
part
of
this
discussion.
So.
B
AH
L
J
Kind
of
wrap
up
two
more
things:
I
wanted
to
attach
on
I
hate.
Whenever
we
read
these
ordinances
and
I
see
things
like
significantly
increase
automobile
traffic.
So
we
want
to
look
at
that
again,
I'm
sure,
and
we
want
to
get
some
sort
of
specimen
how's.
That
word
like
introspective
specificity
on
that,
because
significantly
increase
is
just
not
a
good
good
word
ever,
especially
in
an
ordinance
like
this.
And
finally,
you
know
I'm
the
young
guy
on
this
group
and
and
I'll
be
honest.
J
Everyone
swallow
I
like
to
go
out
on
the
weekend
and
I
like
to
go
to
a
rooftop
bar,
because
there
it's
a
wonderful
place
to
go,
we're
lucky
that
we
have
beautiful
weather,
we're
lucky
that
we
have
some
of
the
most
beautiful
scenery
ever
and
when
I
was
growing
up,
I
used
to
love
to
go
to
a
rooftop
restaurant
and
have
breakfast
with
my
family
on
Sundays,
we
were
very,
very
lucky,
so
I
mean
I.
Would
like
the
task
force
to
look
at
that
again.
I!
B
D
B
B
N
B
And
when
we
review
it
again,
maybe
we
build
in
some
inflation
factor
or
some
multiplied
or
something
like
that.
Okay,
all
in
favor
of
the
ordinance
has
mended,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
so
next
we
have
a
call
to
go
to
executive
session
to
discuss
some
litigation
and
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
going
executive
session
to
discuss
the
LDC
matter.
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
opposed
will
go
to
my
office.
I
would
like
let
folks
know
but
would
like
to
let
folks
know
a
lot
of
times.