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Description
Emergency City of Charleston Council Meeting- April 6,2020
A
Such
time
that's
to
be
a
nuisance
to
motorists
and
to
require
a
few
road
or
parcel
lane
closures.
No
significant
rain
is
projected
through
mid
Thursday
afternoon,
according
to
National
Weather
Service
Charleston,
so
we're
in
the
7
1
the
7
3
range
throughout
the
remainder
of
the
majority
of
the
week.
Rather
so,
pending
your
questions,
that's
all
I
have
for
this
evening.
A
C
Yes,
sir
Carolina
waste,
it
has
not
been
picking
up
bulk
trash
and
yard
debris
and
I'm
getting
a
lot
of
complaints
from
the
neighbors.
It's
been
a
few
people
since
we've
had
that
collected.
If
we
could
maybe
check
with
them
again
and
see
what
the
deal
is,
but
as
of
last
week,
they
were
supposed
to
come
around
and
pick
up,
fell
behind,
I
believe
during
them
during
the
week
and
we're
supposed
to
make
that
fort
on
Saturday
and
that
didn't
end
up
happening
either.
C
D
B
I
think
they've
finally
gotten
the
word
so
so
they're
out
there
picking
up
and
just
a
reminder
to
everyone
else,
I'm
told
we
did
make
a
complete
sweep
of
the
peninsula.
Last
week
we've
started
West
Ashley,
inner
West
Ashley
with
our
city
crews
for
this
week
and
then
next
week,
we'll
we'll
have
our
city
crews
on
on
James
Island.
So
that's
that's.
The
way
we've
basically
broken
it
down,
but
Carolina
and
Republic
ought
to
be
good
and
back
on
schedule
as
of
this
this
week.
B
B
F
B
Improvements
to
to
the
proposed
ordinance
today
as
a
result
of
some
recommendations
that
were
made
by
the
Historic
Charleston
foundation,
I
went
over
those
this
morning
with
staff
and
so
chip
McQueen
II
made
some
of
those
positive
changes.
This
afternoon
and
I
know
we
have
citizens,
participation
and
I'd
like
to
get
a
report
on
those,
but
before
we
do,
I
I
did
want
to
share
with
y'all
from
the
governor's
order
that
he
just
issued
this
afternoon.
B
However,
to
the
extent
possible,
state
or
local
government
bodies
should
utilize
any
available
technology
or
other
reasonable
procedures
to
conduct
such
meetings
and
accommodate
public
participation
via
virtual
or
other
remote
or
alternate
means,
and,
and
so
frankly,
what
we're
proposing
to
be
able
to
do
with
our
planning,
commission,
BCA
and
these
other
boards
is,
is
in
fact
just
what
the
governor
is.
It's
not
just
asking
us
to
do
is
ordering
us
to
do
so.
B
B
So
it's
I
view
it
just
as
a
necessary
step
for
us
to
continue
to
the
best
of
our
ability
to
conduct
business
to
conduct
it
safely,
so
our
citizens
won't
be
exposed
unnecessarily
but
to
not
shut
down
every
function
of
government
because
you
know
when
it's
time
to
rebound
and
recover
the
more
we're
able
to
maintain
on
a
virtual
basis,
I
think
the
better
off
we're
going
to
be
so.
With
that
being
said,
madam
clerk
or
either
Jennifer
whoever's
prepared.
Do
you
all
want
to
just
give
us
a
little
rundown
on
the
public
comments?
H
G
H
You,
mr.
mayor
and
you
know,
the
mayor
and
I
had
to
get
hard
to
heart
conversation
last
night
and
I've
been
on
the
phone
with
several
other
council
members
and
for
some
reason
this
is
one
of
these
issues
that
have
released
for
the
struck
a
chord
with
me
in
in
despair
with
me
just
a
little
bit
as
I
ramble
through
this
city.
Government,
in
my
opinion,
is
the
purest
form
of
democracy.
H
We
have
citizens
able
to
come
to
City
Council
meetings
to
come
to
board
meetings,
Commission
meetings
in
which
they
would
not
have
the
opportunity
to
do
this
if
there
was
something
that
issue
in
Columbia
or
Washington
DC,
but
we
are
a
very
much
responsive
to
our
constituents.
I
understand
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
This
important.
We
need
to
keep
city
government
operating.
It's
important
that
we
keep
the
wheels
of
government
moving
and
I
applaud
the
mayor
for
pushing
it.
I
told
him
that
last
night
I
was
in
his
seat.
H
I
think
I
would
be
very
much
an
advocate
for
this,
but
I'm
just
coming
from
a
different
perspective.
I
can't
tell
you
the
number
of
times
that
we
have
had
issues
come
in
front
of
us
and
before
that
issue
is
decided,
we
usually
ask
our
community.
What
do
you
think
about
that?
What
is
your
feeling
about
that?
H
We
had
my
two
predecessors
join
me,
former
councilman
with
particular
and
I'll,
be
Alexander,
but
join
and
attend
those
meetings
and
I
can't
tell
you,
the
overwhelming
citizen
out
coin
of
opposition
to
to
that
site
being
developed
as
a
20
pump
gas
station,
and
we
defeated
it,
and
eventually,
of
course,
we
bought
the
site
and
moving
forward
with
that.
We're
not
concerned
with
this
ordinance.
Is
that
number
one?
The
question
is:
do
we
need
it
right
now?
What
is
in
the
pipeline
with
any
any
appliquéd
applications
pending
before
that?
H
H
That's
just
urgent
that
it's
just
pending
that
we
can't
meet
to
address
right
now.
Otherwise
this
thing
is
going
to
be
approved
by
default.
I
would
suggest
that
we
just
defer
this
for
another
30
days.
I,
think
the
projections
on
this
virus
is
grim.
We
heard
from
Shannon
what
we're
looking
at.
Let's
just
take
a
pause
button
on
this
and
see
where
we
are
on
30
more
days.
This
is
such
a
drastic
step
that
we're
taking
and
having
to
cut
out
a
little
man
on
this
thing.
I'm
just
I'm
gonna
vote
against
it.
K
K
Version
of
an
audience
that
had
been
revised
at
your
request
by
mr.
McCarney
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
looking
at
that
one
as
we
discuss
it
in
and
decide
to
vote
that
that
one
rather
than
make
it
a
virtual
meetings
that
would
most
likely
take
place
for
another
60
days.
Assuming
that
we're
all
you
know,
still
our
social
distancing
and
our
best
practices
by
the
end
of
May,
so
that
one
was
gonna
run
sixty
days
from
passage
up
to
sixty
days.
K
This
one
is
ending
on
May
16th,
so
I
guess,
I
I
found
back
and
forth
back
and
forth
as
I
told
you
directly
this
morning,
mr.
mayor
and
I've
said
to
many
of
my
colleagues
I
I'm,
sorry
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
get
some
sort
of
better
understanding
of
the
submissions
or
pending
applications.
That
might
be
the
most
compelling
reason
as
council
members
shade
is
talking
about
not
wanting
to
harm
an
applicant
that
that
would
would
be
better
served
by
being
in
front
of
a
board
I
guess
over
the
last.
K
K
But
in
terms
of
having
the
wherewithal
he's
got
a
bridge
loan
from
his
commercial
lender,
he's
got
a
contractor
crew,
that's
lined
up
and
working.
You
know
everything
and
those
are
the
those
are
the
owner
property
owners
that
I
think
be
the
most
compelled
by
the
larger
developers.
I
mean
no
one
has
been
able
to
say
who
might
be
submitting
an
application
in
even
the
next
60
days.
That
would
require
an
extensive
review
period
like
a
Planned,
Unit
development
or
some
major
subdivision.
K
That's
going
to
be
coming
into
into
the
public
scrutiny
as
it
should
so
I
I'm
actually
prepared
about
yes
tonight,
because
I
want
to
keep
the
business
community
the
the
underbelly
of
the
developer
community
that
architects,
the
engineers
the
contractors,
the
surveyors
all
of
those
people
are
actually
now
working
and
I,
don't
want
to
see
them
have
to
stop.
And
if
we're
only
talking
about
this
until
May
16th,
I'm
sort
of
like.
What's
the
big
deal
again,
I
just
saw
that
point
of
information.
K
So
that's
one
Planning
Commission,
there's
very
little
that
I
see
on
their
agenda
because
Laurel
island
has
volunteered
not
to
come
forward
to
the
Planning
Commission
until
a
lot
of
this
virus
crisis
is
behind
us,
so
it
could
be
months
before
Laurel,
Island,
welcome
and
then
by
the
time
of
a
made
public
Planning
Commission.
Meeting
this
whole
thing
is
is
is
ended
on
May
16th,
so
we
would
all
have
one
Planning
Commission
meeting
that
everyone
would
have
to
gear
up
to
support
technologically
and
figure
out
how
to
be
a.
K
You
know,
vibrant
participant,
as
we
appreciate
from
our
public
members,
I'm
sort
of
like
back
on
the
fence.
Again,
I
really
don't
understand
why
we're
posting
ourselves
into
a
pretzel
tonight,
if
all
we're
talking
about
is
a
May
16th
termination
date,
but
in
about
maybe
this
will
just
be
the
first
of
several
extensions,
then
I
don't
want
to
hurt
the
business
community,
so
I
would
really
like
to
have
some
sort
of
truth-telling.
What
are
we
looking
at
who's
coming
in
the
pipeline?
K
B
Thank
you,
council,
member,
Jackson
and
I
might
ask
mr.
Lindsay
to
address
applications
in
a
few
minutes.
I
would
like
to
go
ahead
if
y'all
know
my
address
the
issue
of
the
date,
and
that
was
one
of
the
recommendations
of
the
foundation
that
the
timeline
be
pretty
tight
on
this,
and
so,
as
last
week,
you
know
we
redid
our
emergency
ordinance
on
our
stay
at
home
ordinance
and
we
synched
it
with
the
original
emergency
ordinance
of
the
city.
Yes,
we
have
the
right
to
make
this
a
60-day
period,
but
I
just
thought.
B
E
You
mr.
Ayer
I,
just
think
we
need
to
lay
out
for
the
public
that
we're
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place
to
use
the
metaphor,
because,
as
you
mentioned
in
the
governor's
executive
order,
we're
effectively
being
ordered
to
continue
this
type
of
quote-unquote
business
as
usual
approach,
but
then
also
and
councilmember.
Appel
mentioned
it
in
his
great
op-ed
that
he
did
in
the
post
and
courier,
but
there's
a
matter
of
law
as
well,
that
our
timelines
are
enshrined
in
state
law.
E
That
I'm
a
fan
of
saying
lack
of
action
in
and
of
itself
is
an
action,
and
in
this
instance,
if
we
kick
the
can
down
the
road
or
decide
not
to
pass
this.
The
lack
of
action
will
result
in
approvals
that
we
may
otherwise
not
laugh
that
we
that
we
may
not
otherwise
want
because
then
they
would
go
without
any
public
input
and
so
I
think
you
know.
E
Just
you
know,
I'm,
not
a
lawyer,
but
the
only
hesitation
that
I
have
is
that
we
may,
when
we
have
another
state
of
emergency
or
a
hurricane,
or
anything
else
is
coming.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
lining
ourselves
up
for
if
there's
a
mandatory
evacuation
and
we
just
get
to
keep
proceeding
as
business
as
usual
and
so
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
affirmed
that
this
is
for
the
current
pandemic
and
that
you
know
we
don't
necessarily
need
to
revisit
this
approach
later
on.
So
I
appreciate
you
calling
on
me
mr.
mayor.
F
You
mr.
mayor
I
agree
with
Councilman
Brady,
you
say:
we've
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place,
I
agree
with
that,
but
we
have
to
and
agree
with
the
law,
but
I
had
a
question
of
councilman
Sheen
in
that.
If
we
apply
the
same
name
standards
that
you
applying
to
the
legislature,
Zoning
Board,
Commission,
suppose
those
same
standards
were
applied
to
us
and
said
that
the
same
thing
they're
saying
many
are
saying
lack
of
transparency.
Would
that
mean
if
those
same
standards
were
applied
to
the
man
city
council?
F
We
couldn't
meet
because
certain
people
doesn't
have
a
computer
and
the
like.
Now
let
me
tell
you,
but
the
position
I
come
from
I
come
from
a
group
of
people
at
one
time
couldn't
even
come
in
city
hall,
so
I
believe
in
transparency.
Believe
me,
I,
believe
him
and
the
public
input,
but
given
a
situation
that
the
world
had
had
nothing
to,
do
it
and
certainly
the
world,
and
certainly
our
country
is
trying
to
find
a
way
to
cope
with
it
and
deliver
services
to
people
that
really
not
need
those
services.
F
I
think
we
have
to
try
to
find
a
way
to
stay
open.
If
you
will
for
business
now.
That's
amazing,
I
know
a
lot
of
you
all
did
because
I
did
as
well.
I
know
I've
been
reading
more
emails,
probably
that
I
have
when
doing
normal
times.
So
the
electronic
mail
is
getting
through
the
people
who,
against
this
thing,
certainly
being
heard,
but
there
also
a
technique
that
can
be
used
on
the
planning
board.
F
For
example,
let's
say
a
developer
and
I'm
gonna
get
that
all-encompassing,
greedy
developer,
that's
trying
to
push
something
through
when
somebody's,
not
looking.
Okay-
and
certainly
this
would
be
the
appropriate
time.
You
know
the
Planning
Commission
in
these
boards
are
very
possible.
You
know
they
can
also
communicate,
and
certainly
our
staff
can
to
have
hopefully
have
that
person
withdrawn
and
if
they
don't
withdraw,
then
you
can
and
I
have
a
couple
lawyers
on
here
I'm
a
layman.
Then
you
can
vote
against.
Is
it
with
presidents
or
without
presidents
counselors?
F
That
was
an
evil
of
the
applicant
to
bring
it
back
in
less
than
a
year's
time.
So
there
are
ways
to
communicate
to
the
applicant
that
applicant
that's
trying
to
ram
something
through
because
they
have
the
so-called
60-day
deem
to
prove
provision
in
there
that
remember
these
boards
and
commissions
and
our
staff
are
not
on
equipped
with
the
technique,
if
you
will
to
handle
them
so
and
to
to
those
that
may
think.
Okay
and
I
know
this
Jackson,
you,
council,
leader,
Jackson
you're,
saying
it
with
the
best
of
intentions.
F
I
hear
you,
but
when
I
listen
to
some
of
these
infectious
disease
experts,
some
of
them
are
talking
about.
They
may
be
a
possible
second
round
of
this
in
the
fall.
So
when
the
fall
of
the
year
comes
or
the
winner
that
year
comes
if
God
forbid,
if
we
have
a
second
round
of
this
virus,
you
know
hitting
the
world
in
the
country
again.
Does
that
mean
we
don't
do
anything
from
now
until
until
this
virus
is
solved
with
medication
on
vaccinations,
etc?
So
I,
you
know,
I
really
do
believe.
F
We
have
to
move
forward
with
this
and
mr.
mee
I
appreciate
your
leadership
on
this
I
appreciate
you
reaching
out,
because
I
read
the
op-ed
piece
with
in
the
paper
that
Historic
Charleston
Preservation
Society.
I
believe
me.
I
support
those
people
when
they
talk
to
when
they
talk
about
transparency-
and
I
know
that
very
sincere
about
that.
But
in
the
meantime
there
is
a
way
we
can
do
that
because
it
it
may
not
be
the
best,
but
the
public
can
be
heard
on
this.
F
One
in
the
my
opinion
has
been
heard
on
both
sides
of
this
issue.
I'm
sure
we'll
continue
to
hear
from
them,
even
to
the
point
to
where
we
have
redline
versions
of
this
ordinance
incorporating
some
of
the
best
suggestions
that's
been
offered
to
us,
so
I
am
going
to
support
it,
but
please
think
in
terms
of
it's
just
not
the
developer.
That
has
power
in
this.
F
Our
boards
and
commissions
also
have
power
in
this
to
communicate
that
if
they
need
more
time
on
this-
and
they
don't
want
to-
and
those
applicants
don't
want
to
defer,
then
obviously
they
can
be
voted
denied
and
if
it's
denied
it's
gonna
take
a
long
time
before
they
can
bring
it
back.
Certainly,
if
it's
denied
and
counsels
help
me
up,
is
it
with
prejudice
or
without
prejudice,
but
there's
one
of
them
that
allows
them
to
come
and
bring
it
back.
I
think.
I
L
Right,
I,
don't
really
have
a
strong
opinion
on
this
one
where
the
I'm
just
kidding.
I
think
this
is
an
extremely
I
think
this
is
an
extremely
important
issue:
I'm,
not
gonna
belabor.
It
I
think
I've
spoken
with
about
everybody
on
council
about
this.
This
is
the
definition
of
a
dilemma:
it's
not
as
if
we
all
sat
around
and
thought
to
ourselves
gee.
How
can
we
find
a
way
to
exclude
public
gatherings
at
these
quasi
judicial
hearings?
That
is
a
that
is
a
problem
that
has
been
foisted
upon
us.
L
We're
all
trying
to
deal
with
this
whole
oral
situation
and
there's
no
instruction
manual
for
how
to
do
this.
I
got
an
email
this
morning,
I'm
on
a
lot
of
the
local
government
listservs,
the
town
of
Kiowa,
is
having
virtual
meetings.
Their
next
Planning
Commission
meeting
is
going
to
be
held
by
virtual
means.
L
If
the
town
of
Kiowa
can
do
it,
the
city
of
Charleston
can
do
it,
and
let
me
tell
you
I've
represented
folks
before
the
boards
out
of
Kiowa
before
they
are
extremely
passionate
out
there,
just
as
much
as
as
our
citizenry
is
in
the
city
of
Charleston.
We
have
the
technology,
we
have
the
means,
we're
doing
it
right
now.
We
are
literally
doing
what
we're
proposing
right.
Now,
how
can
we
tell
an
applicant
that
we
don't
have
the
methodology
and
the
means
to
do
this?
We're
not
this
the
town
of
inner
South
Carolina.
L
L
Guess
who
didn't
show
up
at
BCA
meetings,
people
from
councilmember,
Jack,
Griffin's
district
folks
from
West
Ashley,
James,
Island,
Daniel
Island,
it's
been
difficult
to
date
to
participate
from
the
public
who's
gonna
drive
down
downtown
Charleston
at
5
o'clock
find
parking
sit
in
a
meeting
that
last
for
several
hours.
This
is
an
opportunity.
This
is
a
blessing
in
disguise
in
a
lot
of
ways.
All
the
organizations
that
have
voiced
concerns
about
this
process
and
their
legitimate
concerns.
This
is
a
new
frontier
that
we're
embarking
on
I.
L
Think
the
city
has
done
a
fantastic
job
of
further
clarifying
how
this
process
is
going
to
work.
Mayor
tacklin
burg
had
an
incredible
idea
for
actually
facilitating
in-person
participation
outside
of
two
George
Street
we're
we're
opening
up
the
bag
in
terms
of
options.
All
the
organizations
are
gonna,
have
the
ability
to
a
pine
and
comment
and
participate
as
fully
as
they
have.
You
know
from
day,
one
councilmember
Waring
raised
an
incredibly
important
point.
These
board
members
on
the
Planning
Commission
the
BCA.
These
are
serious
people
that
take
their
job
extremely
seriously.
L
L
L
J
Mr.
mayor
first
I
would
like
to
thank
the
staff
you
and
the
staff
and
everything
you're
doing
what
you're
doing
and
trying
to
so.
We
can
be
transparent
on
this.
We
have
talked
about
this
many
time
trying
to
find
a
way
to
have
the
public
to
participate
and
it
was
throwing
around.
But
you
know
we
have
this
virus,
that's
going
around
it.
We
can't
you
can't
call
an
gate
together,
but
then
we
can
try
some
other
solutions.
We
are
the
number
one
city
in
South,
Carolina,
so
being
number
one
city
in
South
Carolina.
J
Then
we
have
to
take
some
Chow
move
on.
You
don't
have
some
challenges,
but
we
have
to
move
on
to
keep
things
moving
a
lot
of
people
a
lot
of
the
citizens
going
to
have
a
chance
to
participate
in
voice
their
opinion
and
that's
what
we
were
talking
about
and
that's
why
we
are
doing
this
and
trying
to
be
transparent.
So
if
people
would
have
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
say
something
so
I
believe
you
know
that
we're
do
right
thing.
J
I
know
a
lot
of
people
not
gonna,
understand
it,
but
we
have
to
do
something.
I
think
this
is
the
best
way
to
do
it,
as
we
are
doing
right
now
being
unvirtuous
so
far
as
the
council
members
are
doing
so,
given
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
voice
their
opinion
and
have
the
staff
and
the
Planning
Commission
and
to
be
hard
to
be
able
to
hear
them.
I
think
this
is
gonna,
be
I,
think
it's
gonna
work
out.
J
Fine
I
think
people
are
just
afraid
of
something
that
they
never
have
never
have
been
involved
in
before
and
which
we
have
never
been
involved
in
this
before.
Maybe
we
have
to
find
solutions
as
we
go
along,
so
I'm
goes
I'm
gonna
support
it.
You
know
and
I
feel
that
in
the
long
run
they
will
understand.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So.
B
Could
I
call
on
mr.
Lindsey
Jacob
to
a
summary
of
the
meetings
that
have
been
canceled
and
what's
what
what's
kind
of
on
the
horizon
here
and
note
again
as
council
member
Jackson
did
that
the
Laurel
Island
development?
As
far
as
I
know,
it's
the
biggest
thing
out
there
that
was
on
the
drawing
board,
has
been
disputed
been
deferred
by
the
applicant,
as
has
been
a
development
that
is
contemplated
for
295
Calhoun
Street,
that's
also
been
deferred
by
the
applicant
as
well.
Mr.
Lindsey
mr.
mayor,
yes,.
M
Sir
I
had
my
hand
up
before
mr.
Lindy
speaks,
can
I
just
say
a
few
things,
because
it's
going
to
incorporate
I
think
what
he's
about
to
tell
us
things
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
great
points
made
in
all
this
and
I
do
think
it's
a
difficult
decision
and
I
think
mr.
Lindsey
is
going
to
speak
to
what
I'm
sort
of
interested
in
hearing
about,
but
the
one
portion
of
this
ordinance
that
I
am
interested
in
hearing
from
both
mr.
Lindsey
and
you,
mr.
mayor,
is
the
emergency
part
of
it.
M
Do
we
have
to
get
this
through
right
now?
Is
there
something
that's
going
to
happen
sometime
soon?
That
is
going
to
be
detrimental
to
the
public
process,
to
the
manner
in
which
we
do
business
in
the
city,
and
can
we
go
through
this
in
a
more
reasoned
way,
with
more
input,
I
mean
the
final
version
of
this
ordinance
hit
our
computers
an
hour
ago.
There
are
a
number
of
people
are
given
public
input
and
even
seen
it
yet
and
again,
I'm
interested
in
mr.
Lenz,
they
think
is
going
to
address
this.
M
Is
this
an
emergency,
or
can
we
go
through
this
in
a
way
where
we
get
more
input
from
it?
We
see
where
this
is
all
going
without
either
detriment
to
the
city
of
having
any
applications
go
through
that
don't
get
heard
or
stop
slowing
the
process
down.
So
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
consider
before.
We
go
and
vote
on
an
emergency
ordinance.
B
Well,
thank
you,
sir.
We
did
bring
it
to
y'all
a
week
ago.
Maybe
it
was
over
a
week
ago,
so
we
deferred
it
just
for
that
purpose,
so
that
you'd
have
some
more
time
to
consider
it.
Admittedly,
the
recommendations
from
the
foundation
came
to
us
late
last
week,
so
we
thought
they
were
good
ideas
and,
and
so
anyway,
that
that
explains
the
timing
of
it.
Mr.
Lindsay,
do
you
want
to
address
what's
on
the
horizon,
so
to
speak
with
with
some
of
these
meetings?
Well,.
N
N
We
also
have
seven
upcoming
meetings
that
are
likely
to
be
cancelled
if
if
no
action
is
taken,
those
include
the
BA.
Our
is
the
design
review
board,
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
and
Planning
Commission,
and
we
have
received
a
total
of
30
applications
that
have
not
yet
been
added
to
agendas
and
that
are
just
sort
of
docked
right
now.
So
that
would
be
a
total
of
67
various
items
which
have
either
been.
We
have
been
delayed
or
will
be
delayed
as
a
result
of
being
stalled
out.
That
includes,
as
you're
aware
mr.
N
mayor
some
number
of
hundreds
of
units
of
affordable
housing.
So
in
terms
of
the
the
automatic
approval
issues,
you
were
correct.
Mr.
mayor
that
295
Calhoun
and
Laurel
Island
have
both
been
deferred
by
the
applicant
as
a
result
of
the
current
conditions
and
those
will
not
be
moving
forward
at
this
time.
Last
thing
I'll
say
that
Joy's
council
seeking
these
questions.
We
are
concerns
that
any
processes
that
we
adopt
have
complete
integrity
and
are,
in
fact,
totally
transparent.
N
It's
not
to
our
advantage
to
adopt
processes
that
could
be
challenged
in
the
future,
or
that
would
be
in
any
way
unfair
to
the
applicant
or
the
public.
Total
transparency
is
our
goal.
So,
for
you
do
move
forward
with
us,
we
would
have.
We
would
seek
to
have
practice
runs.
We
would
hope
that
we
can
cover
every
every
single
base
so
that
we
do
know
how
these
meetings
should
go
to
ensure
total
participation
by
everyone
who
should
be
in
the
meeting,
just
as
we
could,
if
not
better
than
if
we
were
in
person.
B
O
Sir
I'm
happy
to-
and
somebody
said
they
received
an
hour
ago
and
that's
because
it
got
better
compared
and
reacted
to
public
comments
that
I
got
really
up
to
today.
I,
don't
know
why
the
person
did
not
mention
that
as
part
of
the
reasons
they
got
it
an
hour
ago,
but
that's
fine
anyway.
The
changes
are.
O
O
O
Attendance,
it's
not
to
try
to
make
it
look
like
it's
not
virtual
anymore,
that's
kind
of
me
being
a
lawyer
because
we're
setting
up
a
process
to
take
comments
at
public
meetings
or
at
the
Gilyard
or
some
other
alternative
location
for
those
without
means
to
access
it.
I
will
say
when
I
originally
drafted.
This
I
did
think
hard
about
the
public
participation
issue.
O
That's
that's
pretty
much
still
the
case,
except
that
people
who
lack
the
means
can
show
up
to
a
location
to
to
speak
to
it
and,
and
that
also
went
to
sort
of
social
justice
issues
for
larger
developers
that
were
easier,
it'd,
be
easier
to
appear
in
person
for
smaller
developers
who
maybe
can't
afford
it.
They
may
have
had
to
call
in
so
I
wanted
to
make
it.
You
know
to
the
sentence
of
disadvantage
not
to
see
in
here
the
witnesses
in
person.
O
O
Requirement
for
the
city
to
implement
these
sort
of
the
ability
for
the
public
to
participate,
including
a
new
provision
that
we
would
provide
a
computer
with
a
camera,
with
a
link
to
the
virtual
meeting
at
a
location
to
be
advertised
that
is
most
likely
going
to
be.
The
Gilyard
we'd,
implement
social
distancing
techniques
on
that
and
the
guidelines
would
be
sort
of
what
is
going
to
be
implemented
now
to
more
specifically
to
implement
this
virtual
process,
and
it
would
be
I,
did
add
a
provision
because
I
think
we're
gonna
need
some
administrative
flexibility
on
that.
O
For
instance,
you
know
it
zoom.
Are
the
guidelines
run
zoom,
for
whatever
reason
is
not
the
system
that
that's
working?
We
need
the
ability
to
change
that
I
put
in
there
that
the
mayor
would
have
the
ability
to
approve
changes
on
recommendation
by
Planning
Center,
the
by
really
Jacob
and
upon
approval
by
corporation
council.
O
O
Ten
days
we
talked
to
staff
and
we
felt
like
seven
days,
was
a
good
time
for
staff
to
be
able
to
react
and
post
those
things
in
advance
and
still
meet
the
hearing
requirements.
I
would
note
as
a
legal
matter.
Other
parties
and
the
applicant
in
reply
to
other
parties
will
also
need
the
ability
to
submit
they'll
be
able
to
submit
at
the
hearing
and
an
applicant
would
need
the
ability
to
respond
to
whatever
submitted
the
hearing.
So
I
can't
really
I
can't
tie
the
applicants
hands
that
much
I,
don't
think
we
can.
O
So
the
guidelines
are
54,
134
and
they're
attached
is
exhibit
one
and
I.
Can
let
Jacob
be
under
more
details
about
those,
but
it's
you
know
it.
It
sets
forth
what
we're
looking
at
doing
as
far
as
the
zoom
type
meeting
that
we'll
have
trial
runs
on
it,
that
everybody's
be
able
to
see
exhibits
and
how
we're
going
to
accomplish
that.
Not
just
the
the
minimum
requirements
there
in
the
ordinance
and
again,
the
mayor
can
approve
changes.
Early
termination
I
wrote
this.
Originally,
this
is
54.
O
135
I
wrote
this
originally
so
that
everything
would
terminate
on
June
5th.
I
also
wanted
to
give
so
that
City
Council
doesn't
have
to
adopt
another
quote-unquote
emergency
ordinance,
the
ability
for
them
to
give
it
a
look-back
for
hearings
noticed
on
or
after
may,
1st
2020
they
could
by
majority
vote,
rescind
it
if
the
circumstances
warrant
and
by
emergency
ordinance.
You
could
also
rescind
it
mostly
because
I
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
next
30
days.
O
P
I
just
had
one
question:
I
know
we're
talking
about
the
Planning
Commission
and
we're
talking
about
the
BA,
our
but
they're
a
number,
our
other
meetings
that
residents
attend
while
they
may
not
be
able
to
participate,
and
the
one
that
comes
to
mind
is
the
TRC
meeting.
Will
the
TRC
meetings
be
virtual
and
a
minimum
at
least
having
the
public
to
be
able
to
view
them.
B
Yes,
sir,
we
discussed
this
the
other
day
and
even
though
the
TRC
is
a
staff
meeting,
only
apparently
they
are
there's
some
level
of
notice
and
and
someone
from
the
public
can
attend,
and
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
to
make
the
TRC
meetings
known
and
if
somebody
wants
to
call
in
or
zoom
in,
they
would
be
able
to
to
listen
in
as
as
is
allowed.
Now.
Yes,
sir
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
that's
right.
Anyone
else,
yeah,
councilmember,
shade
and
then
Jackson
again
and.
H
N
N
N
We
have
and
I'll
go
through
the
numbers
here
on
the
design
review
board.
We
have
three
items:
these
are
from
the
first
batch.
These
are
on.
These
are
those
that
have
been
that
had
been
advertised
but
cancelled,
three
items
from
the
design
review
board,
11
from
the
BCA
z-9
from
the
Planning
Commission,
and
six
from
the
BCA
SD
for
April
1st
8
for
the
BCA
zoning
April
7th,
that's
37
in
total.
So
that's
the
sum
not
30
37.
So
of
those.
N
That
is
the
one
item
that
all
of
my
staff
have
viewed
related
to
Planning
Commission
in
your
actions
that
could
potentially
be
triggered
with
the
automatic
approval.
I
will
also
say
that
we
do
have
an
automatic
disapproval,
in
effect
for
all
be
AR
items
per
our
own
agenda,
our
own
ordinances,
and
we
have
received
a
total
of
five
applications
from
the
Barl
and
a
total
of
sixteen
applications
to
the
VAR
s.
Those
items
are
pending
automatic
disapproval
within
45
days
of
their
receipt.
B
H
H
It
made
the
other.
The
other
point
I
want
to
make
is
this.
This
is
the
third
point.
No
I
just
want
to
get
clarification
from
mr.
Lindsey
as
to
what
was
in
danger,
because
we
categorize
this
as
being
a
dilemma
in
Iraq
and
a
hard
point,
and
unless
we
got
something,
that's
just
handing,
it
has
to
be
acted
upon,
sounds
like
the
1144
folly,
Road
and
the
other
one
deals
with
what
is
before
City
Council
to
approve
or
not.
But
this
is
the
other
thing.
H
I
just
want
to
emphasize
that
I'm
trying
to
convey
to
my
colleagues
not
about
these
cases
that
we
have.
We
go
back
to
our
neighborhood
associations,
go
back
to
our
citizens
and
find
out
from
them.
What
is
your
feeling
about
this
house?
It's
going
to
impact
your
neighborhood
and
in
the
number
of
times
that
we've
asked
for
that
input,
but
we
can't
get
that
now,
because
unless
we
extend
this
to
our
neighborhood
associations
and
give
them
the
ability
to
have
these
meetings,
how
are
we
going
to
engage
with?
H
Is
a
citizen
input
on
from
the
neighborhood
associations?
We've
got
and
a
perfect
example
came
up
within
my
district
with
an
Magnolia
in
which
someone
came
to
me
and
thought
it
an
idea
that
needed
to
go
through
the
design
review
board
at
some
particular
point
and
I
asked
him.
Have
you
gone
to
the
Neighborhood
Association
and
they
had
I
said
you?
H
You
need
to
go
through
the
name
and
Association
I
want
to
see
what
their
their
feeling
is
on
that
now,
I'm
gonna
do
I,
have
a
monthly
coffee
and
conversation
that
I
that
I
organized
I'm
gonna.
Do
it
this
coming
Saturday
through
the
process,
we're
doing
right
now
and
I've
advertised
that
to
find
community
I'm
looking
to
see
how
that
that
works
out,
but
I,
don't
know
how
other
neighborhood
associations
are
going
to
be
able
to
have
the
ability
to
offer
input
on
things
that
are
going
to
directly
impact
them.
H
If
they
don't
have
this
capability
and
meaning,
we
can
help
them
with
that.
But
I
mean
how
many
times
have
we,
as
council
members
gone
to
our
neighborhoods
and
ask
them
what
is
y'all's
input
on
this
particular
project?
We
cut
it
out
that
whole
process
and
that's
a
little
guy
I'm
targeting
to
to
describe
to
our
us
that
we've
got
to
take
in
consideration
as
to
our
individual
communities
or
individual
citizens,
their
input
on
on
receiving
from
them
how
they
feel
about
this
particular
project.
B
I
hear
you,
but
I
mean
our
protocol
will
not
change,
will
still
email.
Everybody
on
the
email
lists
about
every
meeting
notice
will
publicize
it
in
the
paper,
as
we
normally
do.
All
the
information
will
be
available
a
week
online
prior
to
the
meeting,
people
will
be
able
to
call
in
they'll
be
able
to
zoom
in
if
we're
successful,
setting
up
this
remote
station.
If
they
don't
have
a
computer,
they
could
even
come
and
use
one
of
our
computers
so
that
they
can
participate,
and
so
that's
how
we're
going
to
do
it.
B
They'll
be
able
to
come
to
the
Goyard
if,
if
they
don't
have
a
computer
frankly,
I
would
predict
the
meetings
are
going
to
be
very
long,
because
more
people
will
be
able
to
participate
in
a
way
than
had
been
before
and
once
again
I'm
going
to
make
this
statement
when
we
come
out
of
this
coronavirus,
I
want
to
keep
some
of
these
virtual
means
of
our
citizens
participating
active
that
we
currently
don't
do
so
that
there
will
be
even
more
robust
communication
from
our
citizens.
So,
admittedly
we
got
this
period
of
time
right
now.
B
Folks,
where
we're
we
got
a
corona
virus
pandemic.
We
got
a
governor
who's
who's,
rightfully
ask
everyone
to
either
stay
at
home
or
go
to
work
and
to
conduct
essential
business
in
a
fashion
like
we're
proposing
to
do
here.
So
you
know,
I
just
feel
like
it's
the
right
thing
for
us
to
do
in
order
to
move
forward
and
and
keep
the
business
of
the
city
alive,
but
allow
our
citizens
to
participate
and
even
increase
the
ability
for
them
to
long-term
any.
K
You
I
am
I,
really
appreciate
you
asking
mr.
Lindsay
to
go
into
more
details.
That
is
a
question
that
I've
been
trying
to
ask
because
I
think
it
it
gets
us,
and
hopefully
the
citizens
who
are
listening
right
now
in
the
advocacy
groups
who
are
on
with
us
a
level
of
comfort
to
know
that
we're
really
not
going
to
be
taking
in
the
most
complex
and
the
hardest
to
review,
to
projects
and
and
I
guess.
I
came
into
this
meeting
before
I
knew
that
we'd
shortened
the
deadline,
and
that
still
is
confusing
to
me.
K
So,
for
example,
I
know
the
1144
Valley
Road,
it's
one
of
the
few
commercial
properties
that
has
come
into
our
arena
in
my
district
and
basically
it's
one
of
the
original
residential
properties
on
the
corner
of
Road.
It's
been
a
was
a
county
property,
and
while
it
was
a
county
property,
it's
been
used
as
a
Nationwide
Insurance
office
for
as
long
as
anybody
can
remember
as
a
as
a
commercial
residential
office
and
when
it
came
into
the
county.
K
For
whatever
reason
the
city
didn't
change
our
zoning,
so
it
was
in
the
county
and
residential,
but
grandfathered
in
is
a
commercial
use,
and
now
it's
in
the
city
and
we've
never
changed
the
zoning.
So
the
property
owners
trying
to
sell
he's
got
a
buyer.
He
needs
to
have
a
residential
office.
You
know
zone,
so
I
think
that's
a
really
good
case
for
us
to
take
some
comfort
that
not
going
to
be
trying
to
take
on
more
than
we
can
handle
in
the
short
term
that
this
is
going
to
be.
K
In
effect,
and
my
further
thought
about
that
that
I
talked
to
you
about
this
morning.
There
is
if
our
planning
staff
does
find
out
that
there
are
proposals
in
the
works
that
are
would
be
the
normal
type
of
subdivision
or
a
Planned
Unit
development
or
any
other
kind
of
zoning.
The
only
one
that
doesn't
end
up
at
Council
are
the
subdivisions
who
are
in
a
by
right.
K
That's
a
broken
process
process
already,
I
think.
But
if
there's
none
like
that
in
our
in
our
horizon
and
we
can
promise
each
other
and
the
planning
staff
will
go
to
you
mayor
and
say,
a
subdivision
is
coming
up
up
on
our
radar
and
we
can
ask
that
owner
and
that
developer
to
take
a
pass
and
wait
until
this
is
all
over
and
we
can
get
back
into
the
public.
K
Realm
I
think
we'll
be
fine
of
being
able
to
process
what's
in
the
pipeline
for
the
smaller
owners
who
need
to
get
their
their
work
done
so
that
we
can
continue
to
have
a
robust
land
use
and
building
industry.
In
the
time
when
we
have
a
very
unhealthy
hospitality
industry
and
the
other
things
that
are
residual
to
shipping
and
all
the
other.
You
know
problems
that
have
evolved
with
the
Spiro
season.
K
Building
industry
is
able
to
chug
along
as
long
as
their
social
justice
seemed
safe
practice
and
I
do
think
that
we
should
support
that
industry
to
be
healthy.
They
are
the
customers
who
are
ordering
carry
out
food
from
the
restaurants
and
eating
their
sandwiches
at
the
at
the
sub
shop,
and
you
know
basically
paying
their
bills
because
they're,
making
money
and
I
don't
think
we
want
to
stop
that
as
an
economy.
So
I'm
gonna
vote.
Yes,
but.
D
K
B
Right,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
think
that's
point
well
taken
and
that's
exactly
what
happened.
For
example,
with
the
Laurel
Island
folks
I
think
you
know
the
thoughtful
applicant.
You
know
welcomed
that
public
input
and
process
and
and
the
boards
and
commissions,
as
as
kept
remember
wearing
noted,
will
will
will
serve
that
purpose
as
well.
Councilmember
sinkings
and
then
I'd
like
to
call
the
question
you're.
M
On
mute,
hang
on
Thank
You,
mr.
mayor
a
couple
of
brief
points:
I
have
a
question:
I
agree
with
you
and
what
a
lot
of
people
said
tonight
and
that,
on
the
other
side
of
this
expanded
public
participation
through
electronic
means,
isn't
me
an
incredible
tool
that
we'll
be
able
to
use
we're
now
in
a
position.
Now,
though,
that
we've
been
forced
into
where,
if
we
go
forward
with
this,
it's
going
to
be
mandated,
not
voluntary.
So
just
something
to
think
about.
M
I
mean
councilmember
shakes
a
good
point
to,
and
that
is
a
lot
of
these
processes
and
applications.
Don't
get
to
a
board
commission
or
City
Council
until
they've
gone
through
numerous
discussions
with
homeowners
associations,
civic
groups
and
the
like.
There's
lots
of
examples
out
there,
so
we
should
be
mindful
about
that.
There's
Maine
plenty
of
my
district
on
all
the
place.
My
question
is
this
specific
to
the
Planning
Commission:
what
act
activity
triggers
the
60-day
period?
M
B
O
Ii,
yes,
and
that
is
that's
a
big
debate
between
municipal
attorneys
and
developers-
attorneys.
It
has
been
the
city's
position
and
will
continue
to
be
the
city's
position,
but
until
we
have
a
hearing
before
Planning
Commission
and
the
application
goes
before,
Planning
Commission,
that
60-day
deadline
does
not
run.
There
are
no
cake
cases.
O
There's
no
Attorney
General's
opinions
addressing
this
issue,
I
think
it's
the
right
decision,
I,
think
if
you
can't
have
a
public
hearing
that
the
60
days
should
not
start
running,
but
I
can't
tell
you
under
existing
case
law
or
Attorney
General's
opinions
or
anything
like
that,
how
a
courts
gonna
come
out.
I
think
this
period
right
now
would
be
a
good
time
for
us
to
deal
with
that
issue.
But
I'm
at
this
point,
I'm
really
a
lot
more
concerned
about
the
do
see
and
governor's
orders
and
I.
O
You
can't
have
gatherings
of
more
than
50
essential
services
do
see,
will
decide
what's
the
center
non-essential
and
they
can
consult
with
the
AG.
They
did
that
they
said
we
were
essential
or
they
were.
They
said
we
will
we're
not
non-essential
I
asked
for
clarification,
I
explained
these
or
a
lot
of
these
boards
or
Judith
torie
bodies
and
requires
submission
of
evidence
etc,
and
they
came
back
with
here's
the
Supreme
Court
guidelines.
In
essence,
they
require
remote
participation
and
lessers
as
an
emergency,
and
you
should
follow
these
guidelines
so.
M
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
in
times
like
this
I
know,
they'll,
have
a
lot
on
our
plate
and
I
understand
your
frustrations
with
some
of
this
too.
It's
probably
a
good
time
to
go
and
ask
that
question,
so
we
actually
know
it
for
ourselves
and
anybody
else,
because
again,
there
is
no
opinion
on
it
out
there.
So
I
think
it's
something
we
probably
need
to
know.
Mr.
N
You,
mr.
mayor,
just
as
a
quick
point
of
clarification,
the
60-day
clock
only
apply
two
subdivisions.
It
does
not
apply
the
zonings
of
you
zonings
of
height.
It
doesn't
applaud
a
comprehensive
plan
amendments
or
any
of
the
other
things
that
the
Planning
Commission
does
only
subdivisions
of
land.
All.
B
B
F
You
mr.
mee
I
just
wanted
to
thank
our
legal
department
and
mr.
McWeeny
on
that
I
mean
you
know.
You
apologize
mr.
McWeeny
for
getting
it
to
us
late,
but
you
kept
us
informed
every
step
of
the
way
when
you
set
the
initial
initial
ordinance
and
when
that
was
changed,
and
certainly
as
information
came
down
from
Colombia
and
and
willing
to
incorporate
some
of
the
things
from
historic,
Charleston
I
mean
you
kept
us
current
all
along
the
way.
So.