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City of Charleston Council Meeting 4/25/23
A
C
B
E
B
F
You
Mr
Mayor
Sunday.
We
attended
the
Holocaust
memorial
service
at
gillyard
I'm,
asking
councilmember
appeal
to
join
me
in
reciting,
a
prayer
that
was
drafted
by
of
all
conferences,
the
Catholic
Bishops
Conference
of
England
and
Wales
for
the
22
23
prayer
for
Holocaust,
Memorial,
Day,
loving,
God,
you
care
for
each
and
every
human
life.
G
F
Strengthen
us
that
we
and
our
own
ordinary
ways
may
show
extraordinary
love
in
the
world
today
and,
let
us
all
say,
amen,
amen,
I,
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation
under
God
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
A
B
Now
therefore,
I
John
Jay
techenberg,
along
with
city
council,
Proclaim,
April
23,
as
Child
Abuse
Prevention
month
and
I'd
like
to
invite
Beverly
to
come
forward
and
say
a
few
words
she's
with
d
Norton
Center,
as
was
mentioned
here,
and
for
those
who
don't
know
they
do
a
remarkable
job,
providing
resources
to
kids
when
they
do
unfortunately
find
themselves
in
trouble.
Beverly.
Please.
H
H
B
And
thank
you
to
Mindy
Sturm
by
the
way
who
heads
the
mayor's
office
of
families,
Youth
and
children,
and
they
work
very
closely
and
just
in
case
council
did
know
or
for
our
new
members
and
maybe
those
who
had
forgotten.
We
are
D
Norton's
landlord.
The
building
that
excuse
me
a
whole
dollar
a
year
we're
a
tough
landlord
I
know,
but
their
facility
on
Upper,
King
Street
was
provided
by
the
City
of
Charleston,
we're
very
proud
to
partner
with
you
and
help
in
any
way.
B
We
can
thank
you
for
the
work
you
do
so
next.
We
have
a
proclamation
recognizing
two
amazing
individuals,
both
originally
from
Cornwall
England,
who
have
made
Charleston
their
home
Ben
toll
and
Charlie
Layton.
Would
you
all
come
forward
along
with
council
member
Ross
Appel,
and
you
know
you'd
think
in
this
modern
day
of
transportation,
that
they
could
find
a
better
way
to
get
back
and
forth
between
across
the
water
from
Europe
to
the
United
States,
but
they
decided
to
do
it
in
a
rowboat.
B
These
two
gentlemen,
actually
rode
across
the
shore
from
one
Shore
to
the
other,
from
from
Europe
to
the
Caribbean,
and
it's
an
amazing
story,
so
we're
here
to
recognize
them
for
their
a
pretty
amazing
effort,
whereas
the
City
of
Charleston
wishes
to
recognize
two
inspiring
citizens.
Benjamin
toll
and
Charles
Charlie
Layton,
who
share
a
love
for
food
with
restaurants
in
Charleston,
Savannah
and
Cornwall.
B
England
and
I
have
now
rode
across
the
Atlantic
born
April
11th
of
1984
in
England,
been
Ben,
moved
the
United
States
in
2006
and
was
part
of
four
different
restaurants
in
New
York
before
moving
south
to
Charleston
in
2015..
He
and
his
wife
Kathleen
opened
basic
projects,
a
lifestyle,
driven
hospitality
and
design
firm
and
Benjamin,
then
founded
basic
project
Foundation
to
raise
funds
for
educational
organizations
in
the
Agricultural
and
food
security
sphere
and
Charles
was
born
November
8th
of
1991.
B
He
began
working
for
major
basic
projects
at
the
ferry
boat,
Inn
in
Cornwall
England
and
left
his
home
there
and
came
to
the
United
States
in
2018
to
work
as
executive
chef
for
basic
kitchen,
so
you're
a
former.
It
says
here:
you're
a
former
version
of
yourself
taking
on
a
healthy
plant-based
diet,
Charles
lost
more
than
100
pounds
and
that
wasn't
too
many
years
ago.
So
congratulations
on
that.
B
So
on
January
21st
2023.
They
successfully
rode
3
000
miles
from
lagomere
Spain
to
Antigua,
where
they
ranked
first
place
in
the
payers.
Division
completed
the
row
in
40
hours,
40
days,
40
days,
8
hours
and
59
minutes.
40
hours
would
be
something
right,
whereas
choosing
the
green
heart
project
of
Charleston
as
their
Flagship
non-profit,
to
support
throughout
the
row.
Ben
and
Charles
raised
over
a
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
to
support
Garden
educational
facilities
to
be
built
in
K-12
through
K,
through
12
schools
within
Charleston
and
surrounding
areas.
B
We've
been
a
big
supporter
of
green
heart
as
well
through
the
Charleston
Housing
Authority,
whereas
the
City
of
Charleston
would
like
to
congratulate
Ben
and
Charles
on
their
inspiring
feat
of
rowing
across
the
Atlantic
Ocean
and
thank
them
for
their
ongoing
leadership
in
the
community.
Now
they're
for
I
John,
J
tacklemore,
mayor
City
of
Charleston
on
behalf
of
council
Proclaim
today
is
Benjamin
tohill
toll
and
Charles
Leighton
day
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
There.
I
I
We
had
no
idea
what
we
were
doing
when
we
signed
up
for
this
thing,
and-
and
it
was
just
an
amazing
group
of
people
who
got
together
to
help
us
support
us,
find
a
place
to
put
our
boat
teach
us.
How
to
row,
get
us
in
shape,
and
you
know
we.
We
carried
500
letters
from
school
children
across
the
ocean.
I
There
were
some
tough
days
and
letters
like
that
and
messages
from
people
in
the
City
of
Charleston
was
really
what
got
us
through
and
Charlie
and
I
have
come
back
with
a
sort
of
a
renewed
love
for
the
city
and
feel
so
grateful
to
call
this
home
and
and
very
privileged
to
be
here
today.
So
thank
you
all.
G
Well,
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
and
I'll
I'll
be
very
brief.
I've
I've,
known
Ben
for
several
years
now,
I
just
recently
met
Charlie
and
it's
I
I
just
can't
tell
y'all
how
unbelievable
it
is
to
row
across
the
Atlantic,
Ocean
I
know
it
doesn't
take
that
much
of
a
leap
of
faith
to
understand
that
if
any
of
y'all
have
been
on
a
rower
like
an
indoor
concept,
2
rower
and
you've
rode
for
a
5k
or
30
minutes,
that's
a
heck
of
a
workout.
G
These
guys
rode
two
hours
on
two
hours
off
continuously
for
40
days.
It's
unbelievable!
It's
inspiring
and
I
hope
it
inspires
each
of
us
in
our
own
way
in
our
own
lives
with
what
we
do
to
go,
that
extra
mile
to
make
that
challenge,
to
hold
yourself
accountable
and
to
succeed
in
and
accomplish
great
things
and
today
you're
getting
a
piece
of
paper
and
a
day
named
after
you
guys.
But
if
you,
if
you
row
across
the
Pacific,
we'll
build
you
a
statue
so.
A
B
Julian
wild
staged
an
adaptation
of
A
Christmas
Carol
in
1978,
followed
by
carolinianics
in
1979,
which
brought
folk
tales
and
the
heritage
of
the
South
Carolina
Low
Country
to
life,
whereas
the
company's
first
Blockbuster
presented
at
the
finale
of
the
first
season
was
seize.
The
streets
staged
in
1979.
B
On
top
of
a
city
parking
garage
and
whereas
Charleston
stage
started
as
a
youth,
theater
called
young
Charleston,
theater
company
was
renamed
Charleston
stage
in
1998,
The
Apprentice
team
or
a
team
was
created
in
1986
to
teach
technical
theater
skills
to
high
school
students,
and
the
name
was
later
changed
to
theater
wings
and
currently
has
over
50
high
school
students
participate
in
the
program
each
season,
whereas
the
first
major
gift
came
in
1987,
a
250
dollar
donation.
That
was
a
major
gift
back
in
those
days
from
from
Sam
Solomon's.
B
Today,
Charleston
stage
raises
over
a
million
dollars
a
year
as
a
full-time
staff
of
37
individuals
has
performed
to
over
2
million
audience
members,
and
whereas,
in
his
45
years
with
the
company,
Julian
Wiles
has
staged
over
320
Productions
involving
over
2
000
employees
has
written
34
original
plays
musicals
and
Stage
adaptations.
With
more
than
a
hundred
Productions
of
his
eight
eight
published
Works
performed
across
the
United
States
and
internationally.
It's
really
an
amazing
story.
B
A
J
Thank
you,
Mr,
Mayor
and
Council.
One
thing
you
might
not
know
is
45
years
ago
the
city
was
very
instrumental
in
the
founding
of
Charleston
stage.
Spleto
started
in
1977.
The
office
of
cultural
Affairs
was
created
the
next
year
and
mayor
Riley
and
Ellen
Morrow
were
very
supportive
in
the
first
couple
of
years
of
the
company.
J
J
Now
we
have
the
West
Ashley
theater
center,
which
is
west
of
the
Ashley,
where
over
350
kids
have
classes,
and
we
rehearse
all
of
our
Productions
over
there
as
well.
As
you
know,
we
were
shut
down
for
17
months
during
spoletto
I
mean
during
spoletto
17
months
during
the
pandemic,
but
we've
come
back.
We
have
just
had
the
most
successful
season
in
Charleston
stages:
history
playing
to
over
65
000
people,
including
almost
20
000
school
kids
from
around
the
country.
J
You've
been
very
instrumental
with
the
doctor
straight
and
the
great
Renovations
you
did.
We
are
very
appreciative
of
the
new
state-of-the-art
LED
lighting
that
we'll
be
going
in
next
year
and
Frank
and
Mary
Beth
Clark
who's.
Our
New
York
artistic
director
will
be
taking
the
company
forward
for
many
many
years
to
come
with
great
production.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
for
this
Proclamation.
F
I
just
want
to
say
mayor
that
we're
so
appreciative
of
the
Charleston
state
has
been
relocated
at
Ashley
Landing
in
my
district
and
the
activity
that
is
generated
by
the
number
of
young
people
who
are
attending
childish,
and
some
of
the
practice
sessions
as
well
just
creates
a
wonderful
vibe
in
the
community
and
a
lot
of
energy
over
there.
So
thank
you
for
being
there.
Thank
you
for
relocating
It's,
a
Wonderful
asset
for
West
Ashley
this
year
there.
So
thanks
for
all
the
work
and
enjoy
retirement,
I
will
thank
you.
B
All
right
without
objection
from
Council
I
have
one
other
guest
I'd
like
to
introduce
and
have
him
make
just
a
few
comments.
I
think
you
all
know
and
remember
how
last
October
I
went
with
Roto
green
and
her
son
Dwayne,
and
a
troop
from
Charleston
to
visit
Barbados
to
further
the
relationship
started
again
by
mayor
Riley,
but
I.
Think
back
in
1996,
when
we
formed
a
sister
city
relationship
with
spikestown
Barbados,
which
was
the
town
from
which
the
original
settlers
and
ships
that
came
to
Charlestown
Landing
set
cell
from
they
came
from
Barbados.
B
They
didn't
come
from
Cornwall
England.
They
came
from
Barbados
in
some
very
real
fashion.
Historically,
we're
more
like
a
sub
Colony,
we
were
more
like
a
sub
colony
of
Barbados
than
we
were
a
colony
of
Great
Britain.
So
to
continue
that
relationship
we're
blessed
this
week
to
have
a
contingent
visiting
us
from
Barbados
and
they
are
led
by
Rudy
Grant
who's.
The
council
General
to
Miami
from
the
country
of
Barbados
I'm,
going
to
ask
Rudy
to
come
forward,
introduce
his
colleagues
and
makes
us
a
few
remarks
to
us
this
evening,
while
they're
here
Rudy.
K
K
I
am
joined
by
my
Council
in
Miami
Marvin
braffet
from
the
Consulate
General
of
Barbados
and
I'm
joined
as
well,
with
Miss
K
Greenwich,
who
is
the
Chief
Executive
Officer
of
invest
Barbados,
and
my
name
is
Rudy
Grant
I'm,
the
console
general
for
Barbados,
based
in
Miami
in
the
consul
we
have
responsibility
for
11
states
and
one
of
those
States
mayor
is:
is
South
Carolina,
I,
I,
always
like
to
start
by
making
reference
to
the
strong
relationship
between
Barbados
and
the
U.S
and
mayor.
You
spoke
with
respect
to
a
bit
of
the
history.
K
I
believe
it
was
the
slave
code
of
1661.
That
I
saw
a
number
of
persons
from
Bears
coming
here
to
the
Carolinas
I
believe
the
first
governor.
If
I'm
correct
of
South
Carolina
was
a
barbarian,
a
barbarian
descent
and
the
the
connection
between
Barbados
and
Charleston
is
certainly
very
strong.
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
you
are
aware
that
the
only
place
outside
of
the
USA
that
George
Washington
visited
was
Barbados.
K
In
fact,
in
1751
George
Washington's,
half-brother
Lawrence,
he
wasn't
doing
too
well
and
it
was
felt
that
he
should
go
to
a
place
like
Barbados
and
while
in
Barbados
George
Washington
contracted
smallpox
and
of
course
he
was
able
to
survive
that
in
those
days
in
the
18th
century,
in
Virginia,
smallpox
was
not
rampant
in
in
the
Caribbean.
It
was
an
you
know,
endemic
Indie
Caribbean,
and
what
had
happened
is
that
George
Washington
contracted
smallpox.
He
was
able
to
to
survive,
and
in
those
days
once
you
survive
smallpox.
K
What
happened
was
that
you
develop
an
immunity,
so
when
George
Washington
came
back
to
the
USA
and
he
was
leading
the
troops,
while
other
members
of
the
troops
got
ill
with
smallpox
and
eventually
died,
unfortunately,
because
of
his
immunity,
he
was
not
affected
and
I
start
with
those
things,
because
I
think
it's
very
important
to
recognize
the
the
contribution
that
Barbados
has
has
made
in
a
very
strong
way
to
we're.
The
US
is
today,
of
course,
your
first
president.
Indeed,
your
your
Republic
is
one
that
is
very
old
1776.
K
if
my
memory
is
correct.
July
4th
is
the
day
that
you,
you
celebrate.
The
your
Independence
Barbados
became
independent
on
the
30th
of
December
1966
and
on
the
30th
of
December
2021.
We
became
a
republic
so
we're
actually
the
world's
youngest
Republic
and
we've
had
over
the
years
extremely
good
relations
with
the
USA,
and
we
are
certainly
mere
looking
forward
to
continued
collaboration
and
deepening
the
relationships
that
we
have
with
the
people
of
Charleston
We
Believe
very
strongly
that,
through
that
collaboration,
there
can
be
mutual
benefits.
K
K
The
the
rich
countries
of
the
world
are
able
to
access
funding
at
one
percent
to
four
percent
interest,
while
poor
countries
have
to
access
funding
at
14.
Some
people
are
referring
to
the
Bridgestone
initiative
as
the
similar
to
the
U.S
Marshal
plan,
but
we
believe
that
it's
extremely
important
to
push
such
an
initiative.
Climate
change
is
critical
and
important
to
us.
K
So
those
of
you
who
hear
my
voice
and
you
want
to
come
to
a
destination
where
you
can
just
relax
on
the
beach
and
do
your
work
at
the
same
time,
then
Barbados
is
the
ideal
place
for
you.
Of
course,
we
are
known
as
well
for
our
culinary
Delights
and
and
I
have
to
say
that
when
I
was
here
last
year,
I
was
given
a
Bible
by
the
gala
galagishi
people,
and
then
I
got
to
the
hotel
and
I.
Looked
at
the
the
Ghana,
Bible
and
I
started
to
read
it.
K
I
I
know
what
the
mere
said
that
I
should
be
brief,
so
I
will
not
I
will
not
speak
too
too
much
longer,
but
simply
to
say
that
we
are
very
excited
to
to
be
here.
Our
delegation
includes
members
from
the
Barbados
tourism
marketing
Inc.
It
includes,
invest,
Barbados
Miss
Greenwich
is
the
CEO
of
invest
Barbados.
It
includes
the
representatives
of
the
national
cultural
Foundation,
as
well
as
the
Barbados
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
Industry.
K
Last
year,
you
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
our
prime
minister
and,
during
that
meeting
prime
minister
said
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
do
in
Barbados
is
to
collaborate
and
to
work
with
entities,
individuals,
countries
to
ensure
that
we
are
able
to
contribute
to
the
global
public,
good
and
and
I
have
to
say
that
I
listened
with
great
keenness.
So
some
of
the
awards
that
you
gave
this
this
afternoon
and
I
I
thought
to
myself
when
I
heard
about
Gwen
ruin
across
the
it's.
B
L
Members,
Council,
okay.
So,
as
the
mayor
said,
we've
got
four
public
hearings.
The
first
one
is
a
amendment
to
our
zoning
ordinance.
That
would
revise
the
section
that
relates
to
accommodations,
overlays
and
the
reason
it
says
in
the
peninsula
is
it
would
keep
on
the
peninsula
a
requirement
for
conference
space,
but
it
would
remove
it
from
other
parts
of
the
city
and
here's
the
ordinance
Amendment
and
you
all
have
this
in
your
packages.
L
But
this
was
something
that
came
about
because
of
new
Suburban
hotels
that
have
been
planned
or
under
construction
or
recently
built
that
typically
have
not
included
conference.
Space
they've
typically
have
been
smaller
hotels,
less
than
200
rooms,
but
anyway
this
has
been
through
the
Planning
Commission.
L
D
M
Thank
you,
I
want
to
thank
you,
sir
I
wanted
to
just
piggyback
on
this
zonely
density
question
from
the
union
peer
development
in
terms
of
everything
you're
doing
now.
Okay,
did
the
add
density
in
this
area.
This
city
in
general,
is,
is
an
issue
I'm
talking
can
I
get
some
can
I
get
some
can
I
get
some
order,
I'm
speaking.
B
M
B
F
Well,
thank
you.
Mr
Man,
I,
Mr
Morgan,
made
comment
about
this.
This
is
to
help
with
a
facility
that
I,
don't
think
technically,
is
in
the
city
at
this
point,
but
certainly
it
is
down
the
city,
and
so
it
has
come
into
the
city,
so
this
is
really
important
for
that
development
of
that
property.
In
other
words,
oh
council
members
who
support
this
this
all
right.
N
I
want
to
thank
staff
again.
We
have
thanked
him
in
the
real
estate
committee
meeting
on
yesterday,
but
I
think
Mr
Morgan
and
his
team
for
putting
flexibility
in
here
to
accommodate
the
ebb
and
flow
of
business
yeah.
This
actually
subscribes
the
part
of
revitalization
West
Ashley.
This
is
down
toward
the
DuPont
Road
Orleans
Road
Sam
Rittenberg
area
of
not
too
far
from
the
mall
across
from
the
mall
so
up
and
down
the
area
of
the
Tiff
District.
Frankly,
so
I
appreciate
it.
Without
this,
it
may
not
happen.
B
Any
other
comments
questions
all
in
favor
of
first
reading.
Please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
now
without
objection.
Can
we
take
the
next
three
together
they're
they're,
all
three
similar
annexes
zonings,
all
in
favor
to
take
them
together?
Please
say:
aye
and
Kenny
pose
you
guys.
Have
it
Mr,
Morgan
I'll.
L
Just
zip,
through
these,
these
are
all
in
West
Ashley,
their
recent
annexations,
all
sr1,
all
in
Suburban
recommended
areas
from
our
city
plan
and
just
some
images.
These
were
all
endorsed
by
the
Planning
Commission
as
well.
So
again,
the
three
addresses
are
not
Apollo:
Road
19,
Oakdale,
Place
and
1419
Adele
Street.
B
Okay,
we've
got
three
rezonings
to
sr1
single
family
residential
classification.
Would
anyone
from
the
public
like
to
be
heard
on
these
matters?
These
three
addresses
are
nine
Apollo,
Road,
19,
Oakdale,
Place
and
1419
Adele
Street
all
right
hearing,
none!
It
comes
to
council.
Second
got
a
motion
to
approve
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
That
concludes
our
public
hearing
for
this
evening.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
Next.
B
M
I
was
in
a
public
hearing
for
the
City
of
Charleston
Police
Department.
Now
the
attorney
in
general
deals
with
human
trafficking,
domestic
violence,
computer
crimes,
all
kinds
of
stuff.
Now
the
question
becomes
this:
what,
if
he's
wrong
about
that?
What
happens?
If
he's
wrong
in
a
County
Jail,
we
need
to
do
a
moment
of
silence
because
six
poor
people
in
jail,
who
didn't
get
killed,
not
a
moment
of
silence,
not
one,
because
they
were
poor
and
they
wasn't
important.
M
So
therefore,
my
work's
gonna
be
on
Innocence
Project
I
want
to
make
sure
that
attorney
general,
yes
attorney
is
right.
Make
sure
you
write
for
you
execute
somebody
make
sure
you
write
for
you
put
them
here.
For
30
and
40
years,
you
gonna
go
back
to
your
comfortable
house.
Look
at
the
causation,
a
poverty,
the
causation
of
their
life,
where
they
had
to
go
through
and
you
black,
the
causation
of
what
we
got
to
deal
with
this
people
funny
is
in
this
country.
We
just
we
just
arrived
to
violence.
M
Did
he
just
talked
about
a
quarter
1666
the
to
control
black
people
and
to
punish
him
in
the
big
brutality
to
them?
I'm,
a
black
man
in
America
and
I
ain't
scared
to
say,
I'm,
a
black
man
in
America
and
I
ain't,
gonna
Buck
to
nobody,
the
new
group,
no
organization,
nothing!
The
black
man
in
America
was
humiliated
for
the
years
in
this
country,
in
America,
the
Indians
and
in
US
you
took
their
land.
You
worked
Us
for
free
have
a
nice
evening.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
E
Our
country
says
that
the
majority
rule
the
majority
of
people
are
poor
people,
black
and
white,
and
the
black
and
white
poor
people
have
to
get
together
and
they
have
the
spirit
when
they
said
minority
they're,
helping
the
minority
they're
talking
with
the
rich,
because
the
rich
is
the
Menard.
The
pope
is
the
majority,
so
poor
white
folks
and
poor
black
folks
need
to
get
together,
so
we
can
get
our
share
of
this
wonderful
land.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
O
O
O
Well,
I
grew
up
on
a
Long
Branch,
but
I
was
I
was
born
here
in
Charleston
and
I
stayed
in
Long
Branch
in
West
Ashley.
For
a
little
while
and
my
father
was
Marine,
my
mother
was
our
nurse
and
I
moved
to
Atlanta,
but
then
he
came
back
and
I
was
living
on
Spring
Street
about
three
years
old
and
then
I.
C
O
B
P
Our
ability
to
create
more
housing
in
a
denser,
more
sustainable
environment
is,
is
something
that
we
need
to
look
after.
Y'all's
launch
of
the
zoning
rewrite
last
week
was
a
big
step
and
that'll
be
a
multi-year
project,
but
these
are
conversations
that
we
need
to
continue
having
and
as
we
go
down
this
path.
P
As
we
look
at
how
Union
peers
developed
how
Ashley
Landing
is
developed,
Citadel
mall,
we
need
to
look
at
how
we're
using
space
and
how
we
can
more
efficiently
use
space,
and
that
is
something
that
we
have
limited
supply
of
here
in
Charleston.
But
people
are
coming
by
the
day
we
need
to
think
responsibly
and
think
how
we're
going
to
accommodate
for
all
this
potential
growth.
P
B
A
C
Think,
thank
you,
hello.
Everyone
I'm
here
today
to
give
voice
to
the
voiceless
horses,
specifically
the
horses
who
work
in
Charleston
streets,
pulling
tourists
and
carriages
the
current
practice
of
horses,
pulling
the
heaviest
loads
and
the
oppressive
grueling
heat
of
Charleston
is
cruel,
inhumane
and,
frankly,
embarrassing
for
the
city
and
state
in
the
21st
century.
The
smell
of
horse,
manure
and
urine,
and
the
site
of
collapsed
horses
in
our
streets
is
not
a
good
look
for
a
thriving
City.
C
Fortunately,
we
can
give
our
citizens
and
tourists
an
alternative.
A
local
entrepreneur,
Kyle
Kelly,
recently
unveiled
an
electric
Carriage
that
doesn't
require
horses
but
still
gives
Riders
the
charm
of
a
carriage.
The
e-carriage
gives
charlestonians
and
tourists
a
safe,
eco-friendly
and
pro-business
alternative
to
horses
and
mules
working
in
our
streets.
The
only
person
who
loses
their
job
is
the
horse.
C
We
need
one
person
on
the
city,
council
or
one
person
within
the
mayor's
office
to
break
with
the
carriage
industry
on
this
issue.
One
person
to
show
that
they
have
even
the
tiniest
bit
of
compassion
for
these
poor
creatures,
God's
creatures,
who
are
forced
to
endure
oppressive
working
conditions
through
no
choice
of
Their
Own,
who
will
be
pro-business
and
celebrate
this
local
entrepreneur
and
give
citizens
and
tourists
who
care
an
option
who
will
help
us
attract
tourists
to
our
city,
who
want
an
alternative
to
animal-drawn
carriages?
C
I
know
you
don't
want
to
ban
anything
I
understand
that,
but
someone
on
this
Council
can
stand
up
and
take
a
pro-free,
Market
Pro
business
pro
competition
stance
and
bring
some
competition
to
this
Market
by
supporting
the
e-carriage
charlestonians
are
organizing
on
this
issue.
We
are
building
a
movement
to
speak
out
against
the
dated
inhumane
practice
of
carriage
horses
and
demand
the
city.
Take
a
pro-free
Market
pro-business
Pro
competition
stance
and
give
us
another
choice
for
these
carriage
tours.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
D
And
those
were
all
the
speakers
that
we
had.
We
did
receive
some
comments,
and
this
is
just
a
summary.
All
the
comments
and
full
were
sent
to
council
prior
to
the
meeting.
Seetha
Steele
said
that
e-commerce
wagons
should
be
allowed
as
a
safer
and
more
human
Humane
alternative
to
care
to
carriage
horses.
It
would
cast
a
much
more
positive
light
on
the
city
and
present
a
model
to
other
cities.
D
B
Right
did
we
miss
anyone?
Did
anyone
else
like
to
be
heard
this
evening
that
didn't
come
forward,
but
thank
you
for
your
comments
as
it
spoke
and
appreciate
you
being
with
us
tonight.
So
next
up
we
have
just
one
appointment,
an
alternate,
the
bar
large
any
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
odds
have
it
next
on
Council
Communications
council
member
Parker
would
like
to
chat
with
us
about
the
national
volunteer
week.
Yes,.
Q
Q
Q
Total
Volunteers
in
2022
were
4
338.,
4,
000
volunteers,
absolutely
I
mean
we
do
not
have
a
recreation
program
without
volunteers,
so
I
just
I
I.
Thank
you
for
just
listening
to
me
for
a
couple
of
minutes.
As
budget
season
is,
you
know
it
will
quick.
It
will
quickly
approach
and
I
just
hope
that
we're
taking
this
into
consideration.
Q
We
have
a
lot
of
moms
dads
grandmothers,
grandfathers,
Guardians
out
there
supporting
our
youth
and
I
just
think.
It's
so
important
that
we
continue
to
recognize
that
you
know.
I
have
I
have
folks
on
the
island
who
are
raking
and
taking
care
of
fields.
Just
so
kids
can
play
on
them.
I
I'm,
not
happy
about
that.
I
I
think
that
the
city
we
have
to
do
better
for
our
Recreation
programs
and
and
taking
you
know,
managing
these
all
all
that
we
do
in
this
department,
our
staff.
Q
We
know
that
we're
limited.
We
know
that
we're
spread
thin.
Please
just
keep
that
in
mind
on
all
of
y'all's
committees.
You
know,
remember:
4,
338,
volunteers,
I,
think
that's
a
pretty
impressive
number
and
you
know
Miss
Hutchinson
was
here
from
D,
Norton
and
I
think
she
said
it
perfectly.
I
mean
this
is
how
we
we
got
to
keep
these
kids
on
the
fields,
keep
them
engaged,
and
these
4
338
volunteers
are
why
they're
out
there.
So
thank
you
all
right.
B
B
That's
for
sure
it's
no
question
our
Recreation
Department
could
not
nurture
the
thousands
of
kids
that
we
do
every
spring
and
fall
with
our
team
sports
without
volunteers
and
coaches
there's
one
of
them
sitting
over
right
over
there
Edward
Jones.
Thank
you,
sir,
for
your
volunteerism.
So
moving
on
next
is
our
Council
committee
reports.
First
up
is
committee
on
human
resources,
councilmember
Gregory,
you're.
R
The
human
resource
committee
met
on
Thursday,
April
13th,
and
we
had
two
items
under
new
business.
One
was
Staffing
and
Staffing
of
attention,
report
and
employee
wellness
program
and
in
both
areas
our
numbers
are
headed
in
the
right
direction.
So
far,
we'll
see
how
things
are.
As
we
attempt
to
look
at
next
year,
medical,
the
Medicare
supplement,
was
not
discussed
at
that
meeting.
R
Right
now,
we're
just
doing
our
research
to
determine
whether
or
not
that's
possible.
There
is
one
city,
that's
already
doing
it,
so
we
have
have
an
example
in
that's:
Horry,
County
I'm
a
little
excited
about
it,
because
it
is
the
opportunity
for
us
to
give
our
seniors
an
option
to
save
money
as
well
as
a
city,
and
so
hopefully,
at
our
next
meeting,
I'll
be
able
to
report
on
on
the
medical,
Medicare
Supplement
Plan
correct
that
can
grow
into
my
report.
Thank
you.
Councilmember.
B
Q
Yes,
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
and
thank
you
Mr
chairman
I
do
just
want
to
touch
on
the
Staffing
and
retention
report.
I
know
I
I
hear
it
a
lot.
You
know.
I
know
we're
headed
in
the
right
direction,
but
I
know
that
many
many
departments
we
are
spread
so
thin
I
mean
we
have
very
few
individuals
serving
an
entire
city.
Q
What
are
we
thinking?
You
know
thinking
ahead.
What
are
what
are
sort
of
our
plans
again,
I
brought
up
the
ball
fields.
I
mean
I,
know
that
we're
just
sometimes
you
know
money
isn't
always
the
issue.
I
mean
it's
it's
in
the
budget.
We
just
don't
have
the
staff.
So
what
and
I
I
know
that
that's
depart.
You
know
multiple
departments.
So
I
don't
think
you
know.
If
we
did
a
department
by
Department,
you
know
got
those
numbers
and
that
would
be
great
I
know
a
lot.
Q
You
know
again
we
keep
saying
that
it's
it's
getting
better,
it's
looking
better,
but
I
I
think
the
reality
is,
is
they're
still
spread
pretty
thin
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
we,
what
our
plan
is
moving
forward.
I
know.
We
talked
about
a
pay
Study
last
year,
but
ultimately,
how
do
we?
How
do
we
assist
our
department
heads
our
directors?
All
of
this
to
get
to
get
the
work
done?
I
mean
we
don't
have
the
staff,
we
have
the
money,
we
don't
have
the
staff
I.
R
R
R
Even
though
we've
had
salary
increases,
affordability
is
still
an
issue.
So
to
me,
the
only
way
that
I
think
that
we
could
could
take
care
of
our
shortfall
is
through
private
means
through
indefinite
quantity
contracts,
where
we
can
and
that's
why.
I
said
that
we're
going
to
have
to
really
look
at
things
as
we
approach
this
budget
year,
because
Seventeen
dollars
as
a
minimum
may
still
not
be
enough
to
be
able
to
attract
the
kind
of
caliber
of
people
that
we
want
to
work
for
the
city.
R
Q
I,
just
I
was
just
hoping
for
the
you
know
the
the
rest
of
2023
we're
either
putting
that
pay
study
you
know
out,
are
we
considering
it
are?
We
are
we
going
to
budget
for
it?
Are
we
you
know?
Is
it
something
we're
still
going
to
discuss
going
to
discuss,
I
mean
I,
know
that
I
think
all
of
us
are
agree
and
let
our
department
heads
know
that
we're
here
and
we
are
ready
and
willing
to
see
those
contracts
if
there's
additional
work.
Q
That
needs
to
be
done,
that
our
staff
can't
get
to
by
no
fault
of
our
staff
I
mean
we
know
that
they're
working,
hard,
they're
they're
doing
multiple
jobs
at
times,
but
ultimately
we
have
services
that
we
need
to
provide
to
our
citizens,
and
you
know
we're
all
in
agreement
that
our
department
heads
are.
You
know
we're
ready
and
willing
to
take
on
those.
Unfortunately,
those
bids
and
they're
they're,
expensive
but
I,
know
I
just
want
to
see
some
see
some
action.
What
are
we?
B
I
do
want
Miss
Wharton
to
address
the
issue
you
raised
about
the
pay
study.
In
the
meantime,
I
I
did
want
to
share
with
everyone
we're
continuing
to
recruit.
I
hope
you
all
got
the
flyer.
We
sent
it
out
to
everybody,
please
it's
not
too
late
tonight
to
post
it
on
your
social
media.
We
have
our
job
fair
tomorrow
at
the
gillyard,
all
our
departments
are
going
to
be
represented.
We've
had
a
net
increase
of
about
50
employees
so
far
this
year
and
we're
looking
to
hire
more.
B
S
B
R
R
B
T
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
Last
Monday,
Monday
of
last
week,
our
committee
on
Recreation
met
at
four
o'clock,
P.M
April
17th,
and
we
had
Hanrahan
join
us
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
and
she
mentioned
that
she
is
starting
to
talk
with
several
of
the
council
members
one-on-one
or
maybe
two
or
three
at
a
time
about
the
Parks
and
Recreation
master
plan
and
Jason
kronsberg
did
give
us
an
update.
T
I
want
to
remind
you
that
he
sent
out
an
email
back
on
Friday
April
14th
about
the
introduction
to
the
master
plan
in
chapters
seven
and
eight,
which
are
the
most
important
parts
of
our
next
steps.
But
he
needs
us
to
me
too.
I'm
I'm,
just
as
guilty
I
haven't
responded
either,
but
he
needs
to
get
our
top
three
or
four
two
or
three.
T
You
know
priority
things
out
of
each
district
if
you
would
and
get
those
back
to
him,
but
he
sent
out
that
draft
project
list
and
just
asked
that
each
of
you
come
up
with
that
and
get
it
back
to
him.
There
was
great
discussions
in
our
meeting
about
what
types
of
recommendations
we
should
make
as
well,
but
if
you
haven't
had
your
meeting
with
Miss
Hanrahan,
please
reach
out
and
and
do
that,
if
you
would
as
well,
we
also
heard
from
Justin
Braddock
our
Enterprise
Manager.
He
gave
us
a
great
update.
T
He
has
spent
his
first
90
days
coming
on
board
with
the
City
of
Charleston,
by
building
a
foundation
and
a
platform
he's
met
with
Tom
O'rourke
on
what
should
be
expected
from
the
master
plan
and
he's
focusing
on
opportunities
for
our
city
of
Charleston
residents,
he's
put
together
a
business
plan
and
a
performer
and
had
it
approved
and
he's
built
a
network.
I
thought
this
was
pretty
impressive.
T
But
he
feels
like
it's
going
to
increase
the
value
of
the
program
and
also
will
increase
the
number
of
the
not
only
the
number
but
the
amount
of
money
we
have
in
sponsorships
for
his
program.
So
Laura
Yarbrough,
let
us
know
that,
there's
an
account
that
these
funds
will
be
put
into
or
are
being
put
into
and
that
those
will
go
back
into
our
programs
and
uses
will
be
identified.
T
B
B
U
On
April
20th,
at
a
little
past,
3
P.M,
you
had
a
joint
meeting
with
the
Community
Development
Committee
and
the
Planning,
Commission
and
I
think
an
attendance.
It
was
approximately
a
hundred
people
there
on
site
in
that
particular
meeting,
and
we
had
the
Planning
Commission.
Everyone
was
looking
at
the
affordable
housing,
Workforce,
affordable
housing,
peace
and
the
biggest
thing
that
came
out
of
that
meeting
was
that
they
figure
that
we
should
have
more
units
out.
There
should
be
more
units
on
site
with
the
state.
U
Port
is
planning,
but
I
think
right
now,
they're
playing
on
50
units,
but
everyone
there
said
that
they
need
more
units
on
site.
They
would
like
to
see
more
units
on
site
and
even
the
Planning
Commission
said
it.
The
people
who
everyone
who
came
up
to
the
mic
in
the
city's
participation
point.
They
said
the
same
thing
with
the
same
thing.
So
that's
one
thing.
U
We
look
at
very
seriously
and
this
meeting
was
a
farm
and
came
together
because
we
wanted
to
community
commit
Community,
Development
Committee,
to
be
able
to
make
a
song
and
judge
decision
when
it
comes
back
on
boarding.
What
we
think
we
need
to
do
so
pause.
The
port
side
is
concerned
about
the
housing
piece.
This
is
only
reference
to
the
housing
piece,
so
that's
what
it
was
and
there's
there's.
No
action
was
taken
on
that
and
then
you
have
the.
It
was
a
big
discussion.
U
We
had
public
participation
like
I
stated
we
had
30
people
there
and
I
give
everyone
a
minute
to
speak,
and
everyone
got
everything
out.
They
wanted
to
say
and
I
also
asked.
If
anyone
else
wanted
to
say
anything,
it
wasn't
done
so
everyone
was
pleased
and
they
got
everything
they
wanted
to
do
out.
But
the
main
thing
is
that
the
voice
was
being
heard.
U
The
boss
was
being
heard
and
it
was
satisfied
with
that
and
but
the
thing
is,
we
have
to
look
at
this
site
very
seriously
when
they
come
to
the
40
for
the
affordable
housing
piece
very
seriously.
It's
a
big
development's
gonna
happen
and
50
units
will
not
be
enough.
Also
they're,
giving
the
housing
authorities
a
couple
million
dollars
to
build
housing
on
the
corner,
hugee
and
meeting,
and
that's
a
part
of
the
affordable
house
in
peace.
U
But
we
still
would
like
to
see
more
housing
on
site,
and
that's
just
the
state
of
the
of
that
information
on
that
one
particular
joint
meeting
and
be
giving
them
response,
and
they
they
did
a
good
job,
explaining
what
they're
planning
on
doing
so.
We
have
to
make
that
decision
when
it
comes
back
to
Community
Development
before
it
comes
back
to
full
Council,
that's
right,
so
it's
no
actually
it'll
be
taken
on
that
particular
joint
meeting
questions.
F
You
Mr,
Mayor
and
Mr
chairman
I
was
president
that
joint
meeting.
It
was
a
very
long.
Actually,
the
presentation
from
the
yes
from
the
state,
Ports
Authority
was
short.
There
was
more
discussion
and
input
from
the
community,
as
you
mentioned
is.
Is
the
committee
your
committee
going
to
come
back
with
a
specific
recommendation
as
to
a
minimal
number
of
affordable
units.
U
That's
why
I
was
stating
that
this
will
come
back
to
the
Community
Development
and
we
will
vote
on
it
one
with
each
other
and
make
recommendation
if
they
don't
come
back
with
more
units.
If
the
Community
Development
Committee
said
no,
we
want
to
see
more
units
there.
Then
that's
going
to
hold
it
up,
because
that's
where
we're
going
to
look,
that's
what
we're
looking
for,
and
everyone
was
saying
the
same
thing.
You
need
more
than
50
units
on
site
at
that
particular
site
and
that's
what
that's
what
we're
looking
so.
U
This
was
really
for
the
Community
Development
and
the
Planning
Commission
to
hear
and
make
decisions
and
make
some
point
on
what
they
feel
about
this,
the
with
the
well.
The
port
is
proposing
and
they're,
proposing
only
50
units,
and
we
were
saying
to
them
that
we
need
more.
We
want
to
see
more
than
50
units
on
site
also
they,
although
they're
doing
some
units
off
site
you've,
been
Washington,
Washington
Street
meeting
in
Washington
Street.
U
They
want
to
put
something
there
give
us
some
space
data,
build
some
policies
there,
but
we
still
want
more
units
on
site.
This
is
what
everyone
is
saying
and
if
you
listen
to
everyone
that
came
to
that
mic,
the
30
people
that
came
to
that
site.
They
said
the
same
thing
so
this
given
the
CD
committee,
some
something
to
think
about
when
they
make
a
decision
when
it
comes
back
to
us,
amen
all
right,
council
member
Gregory.
R
R
F
Member
right
and
fiosk
response,
I
heard
all
those
comments
and
I
was
spread,
some
of
that
and
but
at
some
point,
and
maybe
we'll
just
wait
until
our
staff
comes
back
with
the
number
but
I
think
the
community
to
move
this
project
along
because
we're
gonna
this
is
going
to
fall
on
our
lap
sooner
or
later,
with
the
project
will
come
to
us
sooner
or
later.
But
at
some
point
in
time
we've
heard
these
numbers
and
we've
heard
more
than
50.
I've
heard
that
a
thousand
times
more
than
50..
F
So
that
means,
like
you,
said,
20
a
20
number:
does
it
mean
200
units?
Does
it
mean
51
units
but
I?
Think
at
some
point
we
need
to
have
a
recommendation
from
either
staff
or
from
the
Community
Development
Committee
as
to
a
either
range
or
to
a
specific
number.
I
mean
I,
heard
the
comments
made
and
I
heard
the
presentation
that
our
director
made
about
that
and
I
think
it
just
fair
to
say
that
we
have
some
clarity
as
to
what
we're
looking
for
what
are
those
other
considerations
that
are
going
to
go
into
describe?
F
Obviously,
I
sat
and
listened
to
the
traffic
Transportation
committee
report.
All
that
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
to
when
this
Project's
going
to
come
to
our
attention.
But
we
haven't
heard
specifics
and
I
think
it
and
I'm
not
saying
that.
We
need
to
hear
that
tonight.
I'm
not
asking
for
that,
but
at
some
point
in
time,
I
think
it's
just
fair
for
us
to
have
more
clarity
as
we
were
headed
with
this
and
which
what
what
is
going
to
be
that
magic
number
yeah.
B
F
V
Thank
you
mayor
just
to
provide
a
little
additional
context
and
some
thoughts
on
my
end.
I
did
get
a
chance
to
meet
with
the
developer.
I've
spoken
with
my
neighborhood
association,
the
Wagner
terrorist
neighbor
Association
North
Central,
the
big
feedback
that
I've
shared
with
with
them
is
more
affordable,
housing,
more
green
space
and
less
density.
V
So
I
I
say
this
with
I'll.
Do
due
respect
to
those
that
are
listening
to
the
project
that
some
of
those
run
counter
to
each
other?
That's
right,
so
I
think
it's
important
to
have
this
conversation
and
not
in
a
vacuum
and
isolated
on
the
number
of
housing
units,
but
to
include
in
the
conversation
that,
when
you,
when
you
pull
from
one
something
else,
has
got
a
gift
somewhere
else.
V
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
that
it's
important
to
have
a
conversation
on
housing,
not
in
a
vacuum
that
it
needs
to
be
contextual,
with
the
other
requests
that
are
coming
in
from
from
our
community
and
I'm
all
for
more
affordable
housing.
That's
going
to
require
another
lever
to
be
pressed
if
we
add
more
housing,
wow,
absolutely.
E
W
That's
going
to
generate
a
significant
amount
of
money
that
we
use,
the
city
can
use
to
develop,
affordable
housing
anywhere,
where
we
get
the
most
bang
for
the
buck
that
produces
the
most
amount
of
units
that
we
as
a
council
and
a
staff
team
is
the
the
best
use
of
that
money.
So
maybe
it's
not
perfect,
but
I
feel
like
it's
a
it's.
A
really
good
start
and
I
mean
that
if
you
add
up
all
those
numbers,
it's
over
320
units
not
including
what
we
could
purchase
with
this
one
percent
transfer
fee.
U
Mayor
I,
thank
all
my
colleagues
with
what
they're
talking
about
spreading
this
around
and
doing
this
I've
been
able
to
developer
when
they
first
came.
I
was
the
first
council
member
that
they
contacted
when
they
came
here
and
I
said
that
I
understand
what
you're
saying
business.
That's
not
District
I
represent
it's
councilman
seeking,
so
no
we
want
to
talk
with
you.
I
met
with
them
four
times
and
I
told
them.
The
big
piece
going
to
be
in
there
is
affordable
housing.
Let
me
tell
you
something
about
affordable
housing
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
U
We
have
lost
a
lot
of
it
see.
We
are
talking
about
things
that
don't
really
don't
know
it
because
it
haven't
been
in
this
community
and
seeing
what
we
have
lost.
We
are
talking
about
trying
to
get
1600
more
units
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
Well,
we'll
be
talking
they're
talking
about
giving
us
this,
giving
us
that,
but
the
people
in
the
City
of
Charleston
deserve
to
have
more
units
there
on
site
also
that
property
was
given
to
them
too.
U
The
same
like
we
get
some
properties
and
we
try
to
do
the
best
we
can
with
I
think
affordable
housing,
and
that's
all
we're
saying
50
units
is
a
slap
in
the
face
sometime
with
the
community,
not
just
on
the
UPS
us
sitting.
Here,
it's
the
community.
They
stood
up
there
and
said
it.
I
didn't
mean
an
emotion,
I
told
them.
U
Every
time
on,
Council
divide,
more
affordable
housing,
teachers,
lawyers,
doctors
or
whatever
the
case
may
be
here
in
the
city
and
then
we'll
start
talking
with
some
other
things
that
oh,
we
oh
they're
putting
housing
over
here.
That's
not
the
case.
You
know
we're
still
part
of
city
of
Charles.
We
all
are
here
still
part
of
the
City
of
Charleston
too.
We
want
to
see
some
things
that
some
of
our
constituents
can
stay
there
too
and
be
talking
about
the
30
years.
We
gotta
look
at
that
30
year
too.
U
You
know
how
quick
30
years
go
by
and
then
that's
going
to
go
to
the
market
rate.
So
all
these
things
we
got
to
take
and
consideration
when
we
making
these
decisions
and
looking
at
it
and
be
serious
about
it
and
that's
what
I'm
saying
so
pause
that
is
concerned,
but
there's
no
action
to
be
taken
on
it.
U
We're
looking
at
it's
going
to
come
back
to
the
Community
Development
and
the
Community
Development
will
make
the
decision,
along
with
the
Planning
Commission,
because
the
Planning
Commission
will
make
the
decision
and
we'll
see
what
come
out
come
about
it.
We'll
have
a
definite
number
Mr,
diona
Johnson
had
already
spoke
and
advise
what
she
was
looking
for
so
far
as
affordable,
which
is
concerned,
more
housing
is
concerned
and
putting
with
that
and
what
they
want
to
give
us
with
the
Housing
Authority
unit.
U
There
could
be
more
units,
and
that's
all
that's
all
it's
about
people
are
moving
here.
Every
day
we
got
to
have
affordability.
We
got
to
have
people
to
stay
here
and
work
in
this
when
they
be
talking
about
traffic
coming
in,
we
gotta
do
a
little
better.
So
far
as
housing's
concerned,
you
gotta
do
better.
B
U
B
N
Thank
you,
Mr
Mia
committee
didn't
meet
on
yesterday.
Well,
actionable
items
passed
unanimous
I
would
like
Mr
Fountain.
If
you
would
just
to
touch
bases
on
briefly
on
the
Concord
Pub
station
and
an
update
on
brick
arches.
While
he's
coming
to
the
microphone,
we
did
have
a
spirited
conversation
last
meeting
and
somewhat
not
as
much
this
meeting,
but
on
Third
Avenue
at
208,
Gordon
Street
that
public
right-of-way.
We
voted.
N
N
Let's
put
it
like
this,
the
cameras
went
up
and
all
of
a
sudden
it
stopped
so
I
suggested
we
get
in
contact
with
very
professional
Police
Department
to
put
up
a
camera,
because
apparently
there
have
been
some
negative
activities
dealing
with
bicycles
and
things
like
that.
But
if
there's
some
Bad
actors
out
there
on
a
dead
end,
one
way
in
and
out
they
certainly
can
be
caught.
The
third
thing
was
they've.
N
Had
some
volunteers
that
planted
some
Marsh
Grass
to
in
an
attempt
to
hold
off
erosion,
so
I
would
hope
that
the
city
Mr
cronberg
back
there
with
his
team,
has
got
one
more
thing
on
his
99
list
of
things
to
do.
But
hopefully
we
can
coordinate
with
those
volunteers
that
plant
some
grass
or
whatever
measures
we
could
take
to
at
least
slower.
The
erosion
Mr
Fountain
go.
R
Yeah
on
208
in
particular,
yeah,
because
there
have
been
a
number
of
allegations
that
things
are
being
stolen:
ladders
this
that
and
the
other,
but
there's
no
police
report-
they
never
even
called
the
police.
So
a
number
of
the
things
that
they're,
saying,
suspect
and
I
think
it's
more
to
try
and
justify
their
position,
because
I
was
very,
very
clear
if
all
this
illegal
activity
is
going
on
back
here,
where
are
your
police
report?
Show
them
to
me?
Okay,
they
couldn't
just
wanted
to
put
that
for
the
councilmember.
V
Sacrament,
thank
you,
mayor
I,
just
want
to
piggyback
on
councilman
waring's
suggestion.
I
was
not
there
for
Sunday's
meeting,
but
it's
my
understanding.
It
was
a
bit
fractious
and
boisterous
I
do
think
some
sort
of
environmental
effort
might
bring
the
community
and
the
parties
the
neighbors
kind
of
back
together
on
some
focused
effort,
because
my
conversations
with
both
of
the
the
feuding
neighbors,
that
was
the
one
common
theme
was,
you
know
we
love
this
and
it's
it's
degraded
a
little
bit.
B
N
X
You're
sure
so
we
did
have
two
updates.
Yesterday
we
had
the
first
one
was
on
the
Concord
Street
Pump
Station.
We
did
a
relatively
brief
presentation
on
the
history
of
that
station
and
what
it
serves.
It's
obviously,
we've
talked
about
this
quite
a
bit
the
first
deep
tunnel
system
that
the
stormwater
Department
constructed
in
the
city.
It's
called
Kelvin
East.
It
serves
the
the
corridor
that
runs
along
Calhoun,
Street,
basically
from
the
aquarium
out
to
Marion
square
and
then
experience
and
goes
up.
X
Block
in
that
intersection
in
the
early
2010s,
the
city
did
the
Market
Street
tunnel
extension
project
through
Union
Pier
brought
up
deep
tunnel
down
and
then
that
tunnel
turns
and
goes
under
the
market.
And
if
you
walk
between
the
market
sheds
on
the
north-south
running
streets,
you'll
see
the
large
concrete
structures
with
great
inlets
on
top
of
them
that
are
drop
shafts
connected
into
that
deep
tunnel,
which
is
why
you
no
longer
see
people
kayaking
through
the
market.
X
It
does
still
flood
because
we
have
not
yet
built
the
surface
conveyance
improvements
on
top
of
those
shafts.
That's
a
project,
that's
been
in
design
for
some
time
and
we're
currently
working
with
Dominion
on
the
Underground
power
undergrounding
plan
for
that
Corridor,
that's
getting
pretty
close
to
being
accomplished
and
we'll
be
able
to
look
into
that
construction
approach
again,
but
again.
The
reason
we
have
a
limited
flood
depth
is
because
once
the
water
gets
deep
enough
to
flow
to
those
inlets,
there
is
a
d-final
system
that
pulls
that
water
to
the
the
pump
station.
X
The
pump
station
is
the
very
pretty
brick
building
with
the
copper
roof
sitting
in
front
of
the
iam
on
the
international
American
Museum.
That
pump
station
again
was
built
almost
25
years
ago
now
and
has
been
having
some
serious
reliability
issues
as
we've
talked
about
it.
Still
it
works,
I
mean
we
have
backup
pumps,
we
have
it
set
up
properly,
but
we
really
have
our
Optimum
performance
on
that
station,
with
everything
running
full
for
pumps
running
to
provide
maximum
level
of
service.
X
So
we've
been
working
over
the
last
couple
of
years
through
some
of
those
reliability
challenges
to
upfit
the
station
right
to
say
we
need
it's.
25
years
old,
we
basically
hit
end
of
service
life.
We
need
to
come
back
and
restore
that
pump
station.
We've
had
a
number
of
items
come
through
Council
about
this.
We
did.
An
initial
preliminary
engineering
report
came
up
with
some
different
options.
X
Came
back
with
a
design
contract
progressed
the
design
contract
decided
to
go
to
the
construction
manager
at
risk
approach,
which
the
council
has
approved
and
brought
the
construction
manager
at
risk
firm
on
board
for
pre-construction
services,
which
is
basically
where
they
partner
with
our
design
team,
a
design
engineer
to
come
up
with
a
final
plan,
eventually
going
to
guaranteed
maximum
price
approach
and
then
build
the
project.
So
we
are
now
at
a
stage
where
we
are
negotiating
the.
We
call
it
an
early
procurement
package,
similar
to
what
we've
done
with
spring
Fishburn
phase.
X
Five
we're
gonna
buy
up
front
the
very
long
lead
time
items
is
a
little
bit
different.
That
spring
fish
print
is
a
traditional
design,
bid
build
project
where
we
do.
The
design,
then
it
gets
sent
out
as
a
lowest
bidder
approach.
So
when
we
do
early
procurement
on
that,
we
we
purchase
the
pumps
right.
We
go
through
our
procurement
process
and
buy
the
pumps
with
a
cmar
approach,
because
you
have
the
contractor
on
board
already.
X
The
contractor
basically
enters
an
early
procurement
contract
to
be
able
to
purchase
the
in
this
case,
also
the
bumps
and
then
the
major
electrical
equipment
for
the
station,
so
that
that
is
what
we're
working
through
right.
Now.
We
expect
to
bring
that
to
council
for
consideration
the
next
month
or
so,
and
that
will
let
us
buy
those
long
lead
time
items
again
to
be
able
to
basically
shift
to
a
GMP,
negotiate,
GMP
and
hopefully
start
of
construction
by
this
fall.
X
Then
construction
will
continue
out
through
at
least
middle
of
2025.,
it's
a
very,
very
tight
site
with
the
IM
sitting
behind
it
and
the
station
and
obviously
Concord
treat
so
it's
a
relatively
long
construction
process,
because
we
also
have
to
keep
the
pump
station
running
throughout
the
entire
instruction
process.
So
we
don't
see
any
recurrent
flooding.
Well,
we're
doing
those
outfits,
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
everyone
up
to
speed,
there's
a
slightly
more
detailed
presentation
with
graphics
and
the
global
Works
utilities
committee.
X
If
anyone
needs
to
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
it,
any
questions
or
comments
on
that
item
or
I'll
switch
over
to
the
brick
arches.
Okay,
it's
again
it's
a
relatively
expensive
project,
we're
expecting
somewhere
in
the
order
of
three
million
dollars
just
for
the
early
procurement
package.
So
that's
why
we're
trying
to
make
sure
everyone's
updated
has
time
to
ask
any
questions
or
get
up
to
speed
on
if
they
need
to
the?
X
The
second
item
was
the
brick
arches,
so
you'll
recall
it
a
meeting
a
month
and
a
half
ago
we
talked
about
a
Army
Corps
of
engineering
authorization
that
representative
Mason
supported
for
about
20
million
dollars
of
stormwater
projects
through
the
the
word
ability.
Army
Corps
of
engineer
were
to
build
the
way.
Those
word
of
bills
work.
Is
you
have
an
authorization
once
there
is
an
authorization
it
gives
the
Army
Corps
the
option
to
apply
for
Appropriations,
which
is
the
actual
funding
off
of
those
authorizations.
X
So
it's
a
you,
have
an
authorization
to
give
you
any
money.
It
just
gives
you
the
ability
to
apply
for
money,
so
we
had
put
in
a
series
of
projects.
As
we
discussed
for
consideration
by
the
core
and
by
the
elected
officials,
Federal
elected
officials.
We
did
have
success
with
Senator
Graham's
office,
supporting
a
five
million
dollar
appropriation
request,
not
yet
a
funded
appropriation,
but
a
request
for
the
brick
Arch
retrofit
work
that
we're
doing
on
the
peninsula,
so
that
that
is
being
progressed
by
the
armor
Corps
of
Engineers
for
submission
the
water
package.
X
They
will
be
asking
us,
they
are
asking
us
for
a
letter
of
intent
where,
basically,
we
do
the
same
thing.
We've
talked
about
with
a
series
of
other
Army
Corps
projects
where
we
can
say.
Yes,
we
would
like
to
be
the
local
sponsor
on
this
project.
We
intend
to
advance
the
project.
We
have
the
financial
capacity
to
be
able
to
do
the
project.
Then,
if
it
is
appropriated,
we
then
negotiate
the
final
agreement
with
the
corps
similar.
We
just
did
with
the
MUSC
Pump
Station
project
to
say
yes,
we'd
like
to
move
forward.
X
So
it's
not
binding
in
the
sense
that
there's
there's
still
an
option
to
back
out,
but
it
is
certainly
a
clear
intent.
Hence
the
letter
of
intent
terminology
that
you
would
like
to
move
forward
so
we'll
be
bringing
that
to
council.
Also
at
the
next
council
meeting
for
consideration,
it
would
be
a
five
million
total
project
with
a
75-25
cost
split
in
the
court
providing
75
percent
on
the
we
did
mention
the
meeting
as
well.
X
In
the
current
brick
Arch
project,
which
we
started
on
on
Limehouse
Street
Turned,
the
corner
came
up,
Logan
had
coming.
We
have
now
gotten
to
Wentworth
Street.
With
that
work.
We
are
trying
with
the
current
funding
this
year,
hopefully
to
get
just
south
of
Calhoun
Street.
That's
the
that's
the
goal
where
we
are
now,
but
we've
hit
a
couple
of
major
flood
intersections
already.
X
Would
that
work
seen
some
significant
improvements
during
Heavy
Rain
events,
butane
being
kind
of
the
most
noticeable
generally,
but
if
we
can
get
through
that
kind
of
Wentworth
to
Calhoun
Corridor,
we'll
pick
up
another
couple
areas
of
pretty
steady
flooding.
So
it's
it's
been
a
great
investment,
but
it
would
be
even
better
to
have
someone
else
contribute
some
significant
money
into
that
work.
Thank
you,
Mr
Tom
thank.
Q
You
Mr,
Mayor
and
Mr
chairman
I
I
may
be
jumping
ahead.
This
may
be
coming
up
on
a
public
works,
but
I
know
I
just
received
or
we
just
received
an
email
from
the
James
Island
Public
Service
District.
So
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
the
skip
grant
money
was
awarded
and
there's
some
pretty
significant
numbers.
In
there
James
Allen
Public
Service
District
was
awarded
8.7
million
for
a
public
sewer
expansion,
CWS
10
million
dollars
an
upgraded
sewer
tunnel
in
West,
Ashley
I
believe
so.
Q
N
R
X
Correct
so
the
the
county
and
the
city
because
of
the
overlapping
jury
sections
we
had
sort
of
split
is
not
quite
the
right
word,
but
each
taking
a
portion
of
the
improvements,
so
the
county
had
we
had
the
city
and
county
had
applied
for
CTC
funding
that
they
had.
The
county
had
basically
taken
that
initial
funding,
CTC
and
TST
funding
and
taking
that
funding
and
done
the
design
work
for
the
what's
the
West
half,
which
is
basically
where
Holland's
Avenue
sits
and
drainage
that
comes
down
there.
X
That's
where
you
see
the
title
over
topping
on
Central
Park
Road.
That
funding
is
to
advance
the
counties
portion
of
the
project,
work,
to
try
to
elevate
that
section
of
Central
Park
Road,
to
avoid
the
title,
flooding
and
they're,
looking
as
well
at
check
valves
to
try
to
limit
how
much
of
that
title
intrusion
they.
B
U
Councilman
I'm
happy
to
see
King
and
ug
street.
Is
there
10
million
dollars?
This
was
going
on
ever
since
I
grew
up
and
one
thing
councilman
Lewis
when
he
was
here,
he
was
fighting
for
this
and
he
and
I
was
fighting
for
this.
The
whole
time
since
we
was
here,
King
and
hugee
and
I
was
living
there
on
that
corner
right
by
King
and
husi
for
39
years,
and
it
was
blood
and
used
to
have
when
it
had
a
big
flood.
U
B
That's
one
of
the
main
facets
of
the
James
Island
Public
Service
District
Grant
I
want
to
remind
everybody
that
all
of
this
money,
even
though
it's
funneled
through
the
state
and
we're
thankful
for
the
administration
of
it
came
from
Harper
funds,
came
from
the
American
Rescue
plan,
the
Congress
approved,
and
so
we're
thankful
for
that
act.
It
really
it's
it's
coming
down
and
hitting
the
road
two
more
comments.
I
would
make,
and
one
I
was
reminded
councilmember
Waring,
with
the
update
on
the
Concord
Pump
Station.
B
B
B
She
nobody
seems
to
notice
it
anymore,
and
the
same
thing
is
happening
now
with
coming
Street
and
bufane
and
coming
Street
and
Wentworth.
Because
of
the
efforts
of
the
brick
Archway
tunnels.
The
same
thing
will
happen
at
King
and
hugee
Street
and
we're
going
to
get
to
that
day
where
this
is
going
to
be
a.
B
But
a
few
people
remember
that
that
intersection
used
to
clog
up
the
whole
city
every
time
it
rained
right
so
one
by
one
we're
knocking
these
intersections
down
and
and
I
ride
across
the
September
Clark
Parkway
from
West
Ashley
open,
often
and
I
note
that
street
Cherry
Street,
where
a
Burger
King
used
to
be,
and
it
took
him
a
while
to
find
all
the
places
where
the
tidal
water
was
getting
in,
but
now
that
that
tunnel
is
open
and
working
by
gravity.
This
is
a
Fishburn
Spring
Street
tunnel.
B
You
go
by
a
Cherry
Street
the
next
high
tide
over
seven
feet
and
guess
what
there's
no
tidal
water
on
the
street.
There's
no
tidal
water
on
the
street
and
y'all
anything
over
seven
foot
and
you'd
have
that
street
covered
up
with
water
right.
So
now
you
you
get
a
lot
for
150
million
dollars
right,
there's
no
water
on
Cherry
Street,
but
the
same
is
true:
President,
Street
and
and
Septima
Clark
Parkway
that
little
corner
store
that
that
would
get
one
to
two
feet
of
water.
Just
with
a
afternoon
shower.
B
It's
been
dry
for
the
last
couple
of
months
when
we
had
a
decent,
decent
rain,
I
mean
at
least
it
flows
off
quickly.
So
these
things
are
really
starting
to
make
a
difference
and
that
10
million
dollars
and
that
3.4
million
dollars
makes
a
huge
difference,
because
that
means
money
we
can
spend
somewhere
else
where
every
dollar
that
we
get
from,
be
it
the
authorization
from
from
the
water
bill.
B
If
we
get
that
3.75
million
dollars
to
keep
going
with
the
Archway
cleanup
and
fortification
not
only
gets
that
job
done,
but
that's
that's
work.
We
need
to
do
and
that's
money
we
would
have
had
to
spend
so
now
we
can
spend
that
money.
You
know
at
doo-wop
or
some
other
needed
project
in
the
city.
So
it's
all
good
news
and
but
I
just
thought.
B
I'd
share
those
observations,
because
these
intersections
do
do
make
a
difference,
but
it
is
funny
10,
20
years
later
how
how
I
don't
remember
how
it
used
to
flood
all
the
time
and
that's
what
we
want
to
see
all
right.
Next
up
our
committee
on
Ways
and
Means
councilmember
Gregory
all
right,
and
that
was
as
is
no
amendments,
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
next
up
bills
for
second
one,
two:
six,
we
got
one
through
six
right.
B
Okay,
any
discussion,
questions
on
any
of
those
one
through
six
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
any
opposey
eyes.
Have
it
now
for
third
reason
for
publication
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
We
have
one
bill
up
for
first
reading
and
that's
a
zoning
matter.
Do
we
have
Mr
Morgan
or
someone
from
legal
to
tell
us
about
this?
One.