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City of Charleston Council Meeting 10/12/21
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A
So
thank
you
for
joining
us
all
and
we
have
some
very
special
guests
tonight.
We
are
in
a
city
facility.
We
are
asking
you
to
keep
mass,
but
if
you're
speaking,
council
members
or
when
you
come
to
speak
to
the
microphone,
if
you're,
more
comfortable
and
you're,
not
right
around
other
people,
it's
okay
to
d-mask.
A
I
also
wanted
to
share
a
little
something
with
you
a
little
off
the
cuff,
maybe
but
I
was
in
our
city,
council
chambers
earlier
today,
making
a
presentation-
and
we
took
a
picture
up
underneath
this
bus
that
was
up
on
the
front
wall
closest
to
broad
street,
and
it
was
of
a
guy
named
christopher
gustafus
membinger
and
you
all
may
know
we're
at
the
meminger
school,
and
this
in
my
lifetime
was
always
known
as
the
meminger
auditorium
and
it's
now
festival
hall.
It's
an
interesting
note
when
I
was
a
young
boy.
A
I
lived
about
two
blocks
down
the
street
and
I
remember
when
I
was
five
years
old
lining
up
and
waiting
all
the
way
around
the
block
and
coming
in
this
very
hall,
to
get
my
polio
vaccine
that
would
have
been
like
1960
or
something
like
that.
Anyway,
the
the
the
plaque
on
the
wall
is
dated
1887
and
its
state
semester.
Membinger
was
the
founder
of
the
present
at
that
time.
A
Public
school
system
in
charleston
the
city
board
of
commissioners,
with
the
approval
of
the
legislature
of
south
carolina,
erect
this
memorial
and
grateful
appreciation
of
his
services
for
33
years.
He
was
the
founder
of
the
public
school
system
in
charleston,
mr
meminger,
and
that's
why
they
named
the
school
next
door
and
this
hall
after
him.
Sometimes
we
just
use
these
these
names
and
we
don't
sometimes
know
where
they
come
from,
but
I
thought
I
would
share
with
that
that
with
you.
So
yes,
sir
councilmember.
C
Speaking,
I
just
want
to
point
out.
I
think
this
is
true
the
first
time
in
the
12
years
I've
sat
on
city
council,
we
are
meeting
in
district
8.
manager
school
and
we're
in
district
8
for
the
first
time.
So
for
all
of
you
didn't
know,
you're
sitting
here
in
charleston
city,
council,
district,
8,
welcome
and
thank
you
for
being
here.
A
A
So
here
is
the
resolution,
whereas
august
31st
2021
ended
the
20-year
war
in
afghanistan,
the
longest
in
american
history
and
whereas,
after
the
taliban
takeover
in
afghanis
afghanistan,
a
robust
u.s
military
operation
began
to
facilitate
the
swift
evacuation
of
more
than
124
000
people
to
safety,
including
american
citizens
and
vulnerable
afghans
and
allies.
And
whereas
the
largest
airlift
in
history
was
achieved
thanks
to
the
unrelenting
courage
and
heroism
of
the
servicemen
and
women
stationed
at
joint
base.
A
A
It's
a
possibility,
whereas
the
437th
airlift
wing
had
over
240
crew
members
flying
over
200
sorties,
moving
over
14
million
pounds
of
cargo
and
over
27
000
passengers,
and
thanks
to
the
generosity
of
the
spouses
at
joint
base,
charleston
10,
000,
pounds
of
food,
baby
wipes
drinks
and
hygiene
products
were
distributed
to
afghan
refugees,
whereas
the
historic
evacuation
of
american
citizens
and
refugees
from
afghanistan
could
not
have
been
accomplished
without
the
significant
contribution
of
joint
base.
Charleston.
A
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
I
john
j
tekkenberg
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston,
on
behalf
of
all
of
our
citizens,
all
our
citizens
and
our
city
council
extend
our
gratitude
to
the
brave
servicemen
and
women
at
joint
base.
Charleston,
we
honor
those
who
have
paid
the
ultimate
sacrifice
for
our
freedom.
Gentlemen,
thank
you.
So
much
god
bless
you.
E
I'll
simply
say
it's
an
honor
to
serve
this
nation
and
an
honor
to
be
part
of
your
community.
So
on
behalf
of
our
teammates
in
the
315th
and
437th
airlift
wing,
the
men
and
women
of
the
6th
28th
are
thrilled,
and
we
are
greatly
appreciative
of
your
recognition
here
tonight
and
we
just
simply
say
thank
you.
A
A
He
said
sure,
and
so
he's
getting
ready
to
leave,
and
I
said
well
colonel
who,
should
we
contact
on
your
staff
to
to
really
make
this
thing
happen?
And
he
looked
at
me
and
just
said
you
don't
understand
you're
going
to
contact
me.
I
want
to
make
this
happen.
I
I
feel
passionate
about
helping
the
young
men
and
women
and
showing
them
leadership,
skills
and
being
an
example
to
kids
in
our
community,
and
that
was
just
the
immediate
response.
A
We
had
a
gathering
at
joint
base,
charleston
where
hundreds
of
service
men
and
women
came
to
find
out
about
these
volunteer
opportunities
and
to
volunteer
for
these
mentoring
groups,
so
colonel,
that's
just
a
tribute
to
to
you
and
your
leadership
even
close
to
home
on
a
community
basis.
So
thank
you
for
that.
D
One
of
our
one
of
my
constituents
is
a
line
pilot
who's
sitting
in
the
back
over
there,
and
I
I
see
him
he
he
personifies
service
to
our
country
and
to
our
community,
and
I
just
want
to
extend
to
you
a
very
personal
thank
you
for
the
work
that
y'all
do
and
god
bless
you
all.
Please
be
safe
and
thank
you
for
your
service.
C
A
You
know
that
our
allies
and
qatar
had
a
very
significant
role
and
continue
to
this
day
and
as
council
remembers,
we
have
a
sister
city
agreement
with
the
city
of
doha,
qatar
qatar,
which
is
the
capital
of
the
country.
So
if
I
may
share
this
resolution
as
well,
whereas
the
city
of
charleston
and
doh
doha,
qatar
entered
into
a
sister
cities
partnership
in
october
2019,
in
order
to
facilitate
cultural
and
economic
collaboration
between
two
cities
and
the
vital
diplomatic
and
humanitarian
efforts
of
the
state
of
qatar
to
aid.
A
Afghan
evacuees
significantly
contributed
to
the
largest
airlift
in
history
that
we
just
commemorated.
Whereas
qatar
worked
with
the
united
states
around
the
clock
to
evacuate
nearly
60
000
individuals,
including
afghan
employees
and
their
families,
female
students
from
across
the
country
and
more
than
850
journalists,
and
whereas
qatar's
armed
forces
coordinated
with
international
evacuation
efforts
and
served
as
the
first
stop
on
a
journey
to
a
safer
life
for
thousands
of
afghan
civilians,
including
families,
children,
students
and
professors.
A
Whereas
a
number
of
countries
embassies
in
kabul,
including
the
united
states,
have
temporarily
relocated
to
doha
or
are
in
the
process
of
doing
so.
Whereas
president
joe
biden
and
the
department
of
defense
secretary,
lloyd,
austin,
expressed
gratitude
to
the
qataris,
acknowledging
that
the
u.s
airlift
mission
would
not
have
been
accomplished
without
their
support
in
facilitating
the
transfer
of
thousands,
whereas
qatar
and
charleston
city
sister
city
doha
be
an
important
ally
in
the
region,
hosting
the
largest
u.s
military
base
in
the
middle
east.
E
I
would
like
to
thank
you
all
to
thank
the
city
of
charleston
for
this
recognition
and,
as
you
know,
we
always
stand
with
the
united
states
and
I'll
assure
you
will
stand
in
the
future
and
allowed
second
home
for
for
the
united
states,
and
now
I'm
staying
here
with
you.
United
states
is
my
second
home.
Thank
you
very
much.
God
bless.
A
A
As
the
charleston
river
dogs
and
affiliated
with
the
tampa
rays
and
we're
going,
the
chamber
of
commerce
is
heading
down
there
tomorrow,
whereas
after
a
disappointing
cancellation
of
the
2020
season
as
a
result
of
covid,
the
riverdogs
returned
to
the
iconic
joe
park
for
their
2021
season.
Debut
may
4th
the
season
ended
in
victory.
When
the
team
defeated
the
down
east
wood
ducks
nine
to
two
in
game.
A
Five
of
the
low
a
east
championship
series
I
was
there
was
an
exciting
game,
securing
the
first
championship
in
franchise
history
and
the
first
such
title
for
a
professional
baseball
team
in
the
city
of
charleston
since
1922..
So
obviously,
there
was
a
professional
team
here
before
the
royals,
but
that's
99
years
y'all.
Since
we've
had
a
championship
team
here
in
charleston
and
I'm
going
to
skip
the
it
has
like
a
almost
radio
announcer
version
of
the
game.
I
was
there,
it
was
very
exciting.
A
A
It
was
an
exciting
game,
whereas
before
a
crowd
of
more
than
5
000,
loyal
fans,
the
charleston
river
dogs
earned
their
historic
win,
charleston's
first
minor
league
title
in
99
seasons
and
on
behalf
of
the
city
and
all
of
its
citizens
and
city
council.
I
just
want
to
congratulate
dave
and
the
river
dogs
on
this
remarkable
achievement
and
commend
them
for
both
their
perseverance
and
dedication
to
the
charleston
community,
and
you
all
know
if
we
ever
need
anything,
we
just
call
dave
and
their
remarkable
organization.
A
E
E
I
guess
if
we
want
to
try
to
not
talk
about
2020,
but
certainly
the
team,
the
front
of
us
and
our
fans
were
overwhelmed
and
first
time,
99
years,
so
we're
really
still
riding
high,
but
wouldn't
I
mean
the
joe's,
almost
24
25
seasons
now
and
we
wouldn't
be
accomplishing
what
we
had
without
that
the
great
support
from
mr
mayor
and
the
mayor's
office
and
city
council.
So
thank
you
for
all
that
you
do
for
us.
Thank
you.
A
And
so
appropriate
tonight,
as
we
bring
on
our
agenda
our
completed
update
of
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
we
have
proclamation
recognizing
national
community
planning
month
is
stephanie
tillerson
with
us
she's
president-elect
of
the
south
carolina
chapter
american
planning
association,
she's.
Also
a
member
of
our
design,
review
board
and
town
administrator
for
the
town
of
kiawah,
maybe
she's
joining
us
virtually.
A
You
know
the
drill
so
I'll
share
of
this
proclamation
as
well,
whereas
the
city
charleston
city
plan
is
a
bold
10-year
plan
that
puts
water.
First
acknowledges
the
strength
and
diversity
works,
to
empower
the
charleston
community
and
aims
to
make
data
to
inform
decisions,
whereas
change
is
constant
and
affects
all
cities,
towns,
suburbs,
rural
areas
and
other
places,
whereas
community
planning
can
help
manage
this
change
in
a
way
that
provides
better
choices
for
how
people
work
and
live.
A
Whereas
the
celebration
of
national
community
planning
months
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
publicly
recognize
the
dedication
of
the
members
of
planning
commissions
and
other
citizen
planners
who
have
contributed
their
time
and
expertise
to
the
improvement
of
the
city
of
charleston
and
their
communities,
whereas
we
recognize
the
many
valuable
contributions
made
by
professional
community
and
regional
planners
throughout
the
city
and
tri-county
region,
and
extend
our
heartfelt
thanks
for
their
continued
commitment
to
public
service.
Now,
therefore,
I
john
j
heckler
mayor
of
city
charleston,
do
hereby
proclaim
the
month
of
october
is
community
planning
month
here
here.
A
G
G
What
we
do
is
we
create
great
communities
for
all
in
south
carolina.
That's
what
we've
been
doing
for
the
past
40
years,
the
south
carolina
chapter
of
the
apa
has
been
a
leader
in
planning
activities
in
an
active
resource
for
planners
community
citizens,
elected
officials
and
appointed
officials
like
myself.
G
G
G
I've
been
spending
my
time
trying
to
get
that
ready,
but
we
have
some
great
programs
there
and
robert
summerfield.
He
will
be
present
and
I
also
like
to
thank
david
meeks,
who
helps
me
along
for
the
drb.
So
thank
you
thank
you
and
we
look
for.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
your
team
as
a
member
of
the
drb
and
again
thank
you
for
the
proclamation.
A
Terrific
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
thank
you
for
being
with
us
and
for
your
work
with
the
town
of
kiawah
and
for
your
volunteer
work
on
our
design
review
board,
and
I
don't
know
if
it
clearly
said
in
the
proclamation,
but
I
wanted
to
thank
our
own
staff,
robert
summerfield,
our
director
and
and
christopher
morgan.
A
I
see
is
here,
but
all
the
members
of
our
planning
department,
they're,
they're,
really
talented,
dedicated
city
servants
and
they've
done
a
remarkable
job,
particularly
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
to
bring
to
completion
to
us
tonight
our
update
of
the
city
of
charleston's
comprehensive
plan.
So
thanks
to
our
planning
department,.
A
Deletions
corrections,
hearing
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
next
up
is
our
citizens
participation
period,
adam
clark,
13
folks,
have
signed
up
with
us
tonight.
So
let's,
since
we
have
some
other
comments,
we
need
to
share.
Let's
ask
for
90
a
minute
and
a
half
each
and
madame
clerk
will
call
out
your
name
and
please
come
up
to
the
microphone.
We
look
forward
to
hearing
your
comments.
G
A
G
G
He
didn't
want
to
see.
African-American
children
educated
in
charleston
point
blank
five
out
five
times
more
likely.
Turbos
and
african-american
meals
in
charleston,
county
court
and
solicitor
will
be
arrested
in
this
city.
Racism
is
very
real
here
now
it's
a
new
speech.
The
department
of
justice
and
fbi
might
be
listening
to
my
speech
right
now
against
the
bible
administration.
Who's
totally
messed
up
with
the
violent
crime
control
act,
1994
still
doing
mandatory
minimums
right
now
across
1885
broad
street.
G
Wow,
I'm
so
glad
it's
community
planning
month.
It's
interesting
that
the
lady
before
us
had
said
that
she's
interested
in
improving
the
diversity,
inclusion
and
racial
equity.
It's
funny.
She
said
that,
but
it's
been
over
a
month
since
the
city
council
rejected
that
report
and
denied
that
our
commission
continue
as
it
is,
but
there
is
a
chance
for
one
of
the
no
votes
to
bring
it
back
up
and
I'm
here
to
urge
that
you
all
do
that.
There's
a
city
count!
G
There's
a
city
council
member
who
had
mentioned
that
there's
some
city
council
members
who
are
refusing
to
bring
this
up
because
they
don't
want
to
become
an
election
issue.
But
this
is
a
human
rights
issue
that
we've
been
dealing
with
for
hundreds
of
years
over
100
years
in
this
city
in
this
very
city,
and
I'm
glad
we're
in
your
district
council
member
seeking,
because
this
is
directed
to
you.
This
is
a
you
direct
one
of
the
richest
parts
of
this
city,
the
richest
parts
of
this
city
and
my
brother
before
said.
G
Yes,
the
police
brutality
and
the
racial
disparities
do
exist,
especially
in
your
district.
Black
folks
are
five
times
more
likely
to
get
arrested
in
your
district
than
anywhere
else
in
charleston,
and
there
are
other
disparities
within
y'all's
district
that
I
can
also
forge
you,
but
the
problem
is
not
changed,
no
matter
what
chief
reynolds
tells
you.
There
are
a
lot
of
disparities
in
y'all's
districts,
and
this
commission
and
our
report
was
an
effort
to
change
that
and
do
something
to
do
to
make
this
city
a
more
equitable
city.
So
I
urge
y'all
to
listen.
B
G
F
Good
afternoon
mayor,
I
brought
my
father
with
me,
so
you
could
see
who
the
closings
are
hurting
he's
going
to
speak.
Also,
I'm
going
to
speak
on
his
behalf
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping.
If
you
really
appreciate
what
his
military
members
did
write
to
their
commander,
the
commander
of
the
base
and
they'll
get
a
service
award.
I
have
one
of
those
title:
57
is
a
requirement
to
close
roads.
F
F
It
has
to
be
with
notice.
It
has
to
be
advertised.
In
the
newspaper
three
times
the
hearing
was
notified
twice.
That
was
it.
You
do
not
have
the
right
to
close
roads.
So
why
are
the
roads
still
closed
and
all
the
traffic?
The
justification
for
closing
the
roads
was
because
people
were
cutting
through.
Well,
I
can
tell
you
they
come
by
our
house
24
7,
because
it's
the
only
way
in
and
out
of
the
neighborhood
we
are
constantly
trafficking
flowing
in
and
out.
F
What
really
caused
this
to
happen
is
one
year
ago
this
month,
my
father
had
a
stroke.
He
wanted
me
at
the
hospital
at
seven
o'clock
for
procedure.
I
couldn't
get
out
of
the
driveway.
I
couldn't
get
out
of
the
neighborhood,
because
I
was
blocked
in
and
you
think
people
are
going
to
move
out
of
your
way.
They
can't
the
roads
are
blocked.
Now,
ironically
enough,
I
wanted
to
go
home
at
two
o'clock.
I
couldn't
go
home
again
and
mayor.
Do
you
remember
what
you
said
to
me
when
I
met
you
one-on-one
what
you?
H
Good
evening
I
am
co-president
of
the
charleston
area,
justice
ministry
and
I'm
here
to
tell
you
cajun,
is
extremely
disappointed
that
the
council
voted
not
to
establish
s-c-e-I-r-c
as
a
permanent
committee
to
reckon
to
not
recognize
the
work
of
the
commission
to
not
recognize
the
continuing
racial
injustices
to
not
recognize
the
need
to
address.
The
report's
recommendations
is
a
grave
disservice
to
our
community.
H
C
C
So
solutions
were
identified,
a
need
was
identified,
but
how
could
we
protect
it?
This
land
was
incredibly
expensive
and
difficult
to
protect,
and
that's
where
the
community
members
came
in
again,
they
came
up
with
the
idea
that
the
interests
around
them
could
create
synergies
and
because
of
that,
the
charleston
county
aviation
authority
is
a
partner
in
ultimately
protecting
this
property.
So
we're
are
honored
to
be
a
part
of
a
community
driven
project.
E
E
E
E
H
H
They
actually-
and
we
weren't
able
to
do
that
because
of
corona
they
actually
donated
through
our
organization,
sister
cities,
international,
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
our
organization,
which
we
distributed.
Fifty
thousand
dollars
to
the
county
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
the
city
for
corona
relief
supplies.
B
H
Charleston
has
made
bold
commitments
to
honestly
reckon
with
our
history
of
racism
to
create
a
community
of
equity
and
justice.
The
city
apologized
for
its
role
in
slavery,
conducted
the
racial
bias,
audit
of
cbd
and
created
the
sceirc
to
reveal
and
dismantle
systemic
racism,
but
today
were
a
story
of
promises
made
promises
broken
first.
The
council
voted
for
that
voted
for
the
sceirc,
followed
and
allowed
months
of
work
to
deliver
outstanding
recommendations
then
voted
down
establishing
a
permanent
committee
and
even
accepting
the
report.
H
Second,
the
racial
bias
audit
is
stalled
at
best
two
years
in
cpd's.
Raw
data
shows
no
reduction
in
racial
disparities
in
any
category.
This
was
the
purpose
of
the
audit.
The
community
has
still
not
been
informed
of
progress.
The
promised
independent
review
of
implementation
hasn't
happened,
and
we
have
yet
to
see
an
interim
report
and
analyses,
and
I've
heard
nothing
about
plans
to
address
the
persistent
disparities
promise
after
promise
not
met.
H
How
do
these
look
like
a
commitment
to
honestly
reckon
with
systemic
racism?
We
ask
that
one.
You
vote
yes
to
establish
the
s-e-s-c-e-I-r-c
as
a
permanent
committee,
to
conduct
an
in-depth
review
of
the
racial
bias
audit
to
deliver
on
the
missed
promises
and
three
recommit
to
your
bold
promises
to
weed
out
systemic
racism.
Thank
you.
H
Good
evening,
good
evening,
mary
teklenberg
and
members
of
council,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
My
name
is
laura
cantrell
and
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
coastal
conservation
league
on
behalf
of
the
conservation
league
and
our
partners
at
the
center
for
ayers
property
preservation
and
open
space
institute.
H
Our
organizations
have
been
working
together
on
a
community-based
project
to
preserve
and
conserve
both
large
and
small
properties
in
the
area
of
john's
island
between
plow
ground
and
edendale
roads
and
the
stoneau
river
and
bowhicket
creek.
This
geographic
area
is
located
immediately
outside
the
urban
growth
boundary
and
is
culturally
significant
for
several
historic
african-american
community
settlement
communities.
H
The
location
of
the
progressive
club
and
working
farms
permanently
protecting
the
oakville
property
is
a
priority
for
this
area,
not
only
to
preserve
the
rural
identity
of
southern
john's
island,
but
also
because
this
property
is
at
the
mouth
of
burden.
Creek
and
more
than
200
homes
had
been
proposed
for
this
incredibly
low-lying
area
which
risked
flooding
upstream
communities,
the
use
of
the
same
time.
B
Good
evening,
mayor
teklenberg
and
members
of
city
council,
I'm
betsy
laforce
with
the
coastal
conservation
league.
Thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
city
plan,
the
conservation
league
feels
that
much
of
the
city
plan
reflects
important
lessons
learned
from
past
land
use
decisions
that
have
contributed
to
major
flooding,
traffic,
gentrification
and
affordability.
Issues
in
our
region,
but
two
key
components
of
the
draft
remain
in
stark
contrast
with
the
positive
new
direction.
The
rest
of
the
city
plan
is
outlining.
B
First,
the
future
land
use
map
recommendations
for
upper
canehoy
endorses
low-density
suburban
sprawl
into
pristine
undeveloped
land
at
the
edge
of
the
francis
marion
national
forest.
That
ecosystem
is
habitat
to
a
complex
web
of
threatened
and
endangered
species
that
rely
on
the
old
growth
longleaf
pine
forest
for
survival.
B
Greenlighting,
this
old
growth
forest
to
gradually
be
encircled
by
suburban
development
would
be
devastating
not
only
to
the
ecological
health
of
our
region,
but
also
to
the
watershed,
health
and
functionality
of
this
vast
forest.
That's
playing
a
vital
role
in
protecting
downstream
communities
from
flooding.
If
we
were
to
truly
take
a
water
first
approach
to
planning,
then
the
city
plan
should
be
directing
all
future
growth
for
canehoe
along
the
existing
clements
ferry
road
corridor.
B
Second,
this
plan
rightfully
focuses
attention
to
the
importance
of
documenting
and
preserving
the
historic
african-american
settlement
communities
throughout
the
city
of
charleston.
However,
the
very
same
plan
endorses
extending
I-526
straight
through
the
middle
of
two
historic
african-american
communities,
cross-cut
and
ferguson
village.
On.
A
F
F
F
F
We
don't
have
any
problem,
they
are
there
to
serve
and
they
do
serve
the
community
in
which
they
represent,
and
we
are
proud
of
all
the
work
that
council
do
and
staff
do
for
the
community.
But,
mr
mayor,
we
need
to
have
coffee
again
in
the
community
and
have
mr
wack
to
call
me
so
that
we
can
get
together
and
work
that
out.
Thank
you
all
very
much.
Yes,
sir.
C
First,
I'd
like
to
start
off
and
let
y'all
know
I
want
to
view
way
of
it,
but
this
is
breast
cancer
awareness
month.
That's
why
I'm
wearing
paint
so
it's
hard
to
get
them
paint,
but
I
got
on
some
paint
today
just
for
that
you're
pretty
in
pink.
Thank
you,
sir,
and
I
can't
understand
up
here
today,
just
to
say
one
thing
to
you
mayor
and
your
12th
council
member
all
right
and
remember
this
a
purpose
you
all
were
elected
for
a
purpose
watch
your
purpose.
F
After
his
stroke,
my
father
has
a
speech
impairment.
This
is
the
individual
that
ross
appel
said
he
was
going
to
help.
But
when
I
filed
the
freedom
of
information
act,
I
only
found
out
that
he
was
calling
me
names
along
with
tom
finnegan.
Yes,
you
did,
I
can
show
you
the
email
she
said.
I'd
lost
my
mind.
F
F
You
can't
park
and
stand
within
20
feet
of
a
crosswalk
intersections,
and
that
happens
every
day
the
entire
traffic
gets
routed
through
our
neighborhood.
I've
been
coming
before
you
at
least
20
times
twice
a
month
during
the
winter
time,
once
once
a
month
in
the
summer.
Yet
all
of
you
have
sat
there
and
done
nothing.
F
When
are
you
going
to
help
me
out?
I'm
not
asking
you
to
do
anything
illegal.
I'm
asking
you
to
enforce
the
law.
Ross
appel
wrote
to
me
and
said
I
will
not
post
signs,
say
no
stopping
or
standing
because
it
will
stop
the
only
way
to
get
to
school.
That's
not
true.
That's
a
lie.
All
you
have
to
do
is
drive
through
the
neighborhood.
Why
does
he
say
that
he
doesn't
want
any
travis
to
go
by
his
friend
tom
finnegan's
house?
What
is
your
relationship
with
tom
finnegan?
B
A
A
E
C
A
A
Approve
any
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
next
up
is
a
presentation
of
initial
recommendations.
I
would
call
it
regarding
the
army
corps
three
by
three
feasibility
study
by
haygood
morrison
he's
the
chairman
of
our
committee
and-
and
I
must
say,
of
both
haygood
and
the
members
of
the
committee,
how
committed
they
are,
how
dedicated
they
are.
A
They
really
care
about
what
they're,
studying
and
the
recommendations
that
they
will
be
making
to
you,
and
I
would
also
just
as
an
aside,
maybe,
but
not
really,
because
I'm
thanking
this
young
man
for
continuing
a
legacy
of
service
to
this
city.
His
great
grandfather
was
the
mayor
of
charleston,
mayor
morrison,
who
morrison
drive
was
named
after,
and
isn't
it
appropriate
that
this
young
man
is
going
to
do
everything
he
can
to
keep
morrison
drive
dry,
hey,
good
morrison.
Thank
you.
J
Mr
mayor,
thank
you.
Council
members:
hey
good
morrison,
chair
of
the
army
corps,
3x3
committee
advisory
committee,
so,
on
behalf
of
the
army
corps
3x3
advisory
committee.
Thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
to
present
our
latest
update
to
you
we're
blessed
to
be
back
in
person
here
today.
Since
our
committee's
approval.
In
february,
we
have
thoroughly
researched,
diligenced
and
deliberated
on
the
details
of
the
army
corps
proposed
perimeter
protection.
J
First
and
foremost,
we
decided
months
ago
that
the
need
for
an
integrated
water
plan
is
paramount.
I
will
read
you
our
recommendation
on
that
point.
Please
note
that,
since
the
time
this
language
was
recommended,
dale
morris,
the
city's
chief
resilience
officer
informed
us
that
the
ped
phase
or
the
preliminary
engineering
and
design
phase
of
the
army
corps
perimeter
protection
project
would,
by
necessity,
need
to
overlap
somewhat
with
an
integrated
water
plan
in
order
to
complete
both
a
long
schedule,
both
along
schedule
without
delay.
J
J
This
water
management
plan
will
be
a
critical
element
in
the
committees,
as
well
as
city
council's
realistic
evaluation
of
how
to
mitigate
flooding
from
all
sources,
prioritize
construction
funding
and
assess
key
design
design
decisions.
The
process
for
developing
this
plan
is
outlined
in
the
wagner
and
ball
perimeter
protection
analysis
discovery
report,
starting
on
page
56.
J
The
3x3
advisory
committee
makes
this
recommendation
in
connection
with
its
mandate
from
council,
which
directs
it
in
part
to
identify,
discuss
and
promote
peninsula
strategies
for
addressing
storm
surge
protection
and
flooding
from
all
causes.
Committee
members
took
this
action
following
a
series
of
discussions.
J
The
committee
also
agrees
that
the
rosemont
community
merits
further
study
needs
further
study,
not
only
as
it
relates
to
perimeter
protection,
but
also
for
overall
resilience.
Our
recommendation
for
rosemont
is
as
follows:
after
thorough
diligence,
the
city
of
charleston
3x3
advisory
committee
is
in
unanimous
agreement
about
recommending
a
community
resilience,
study
and
plan
for
rosemont.
J
This
city-led
study
and
plan
is
recommended
as
a
result
of
the
army
corps
recommendation
of
non-structural
solutions
in
place
of
prohibited
protection
for
walt
rosemond.
Therefore,
the
study
and
plan
should
be
aligned
with
army
corps
perimeter
protection,
ped
phase,
1
and
the
downtown
plan
in
order
to
ensure
the
findings
are
incorporated
into
engineering
and
design.
J
J
The
committee
recommends
the
proposed
alignment
take
into
consideration
protecting
all
assets
not
currently
protected
along
the
eastern
edge
of
the
peninsula,
including
going
from
south
north.
The
carolina
yacht
club,
the
harbor
pilots
facility
rally
waterfront
park,
the
cooper,
hotel
fleet,
landing
number
of
residential
structures,
the
maritime
center,
the
international
african-american
museum
liberty
square
and
the
south
carolina
aquarium
relating
to
the
south
carolina
ports
authority.
J
They
had
a
very
productive
meeting
with
the
army
corps
and
issued
the
following
comment,
as
it
relates
to
the
perimeter
protection
alignment
for
their
facilities
from
properties
after
direct
and
positive
communications
with
the
u.s
army
corps
of
engineers,
charleston
district
and
the
south
carolina
ports
authority.
Since
the
draft
report
release
the
south
carolina
ports
authority
is
optimistic,
a
realignment
can
and
will
be
achieved
before
the
u.s
army
corps
of
engineers.
J
J
As
I
mentioned
in
the
beginning,
we
are
blessed
to
be
discussing
it
here
today
in
person,
and
we
look
forward
to
our
next
presentation.
We
understand
that
there
is
a
city
council
workshop
on
october
21st
and
we
look
forward
to
presenting
the
final
set
of
recommendations
with
the
target
date
of
november
9th.
A
K
K
J
It's
a
yeah,
it's
a
great
point.
You
know
what
we've
done
on
that
front
is
is
looked
at
other
funding
structures.
Other
cities
have
used,
but
you
know
we
as
a
committee-
and
you
know
I
know
myself
personally
and
there
are
committee
members
such
as
councilmember
waring
and
seeking
that
they
can
speak
to
this,
but
given
the
scale
of
it
as
well
as
the
time
frame,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
tough
for
us
to
give
a
precise
recommendation
on
the
financing.
C
C
I
don't
think
you've
missed
a
single
minute
of
those
meetings
and
you've
led
it
with.
I
mean
real
professionalism.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that.
I
see
your
dad's
here.
Your
dad
should
be
very
proud
of
you,
because
you've
really
done
a
really
great
job.
There
are
some
other
members
of
the
commission
that
are
here
tonight,
mr
mayor,
that
I
think
we
should
just
recognize.
I
see
ms
yarber
out.
There
sits
on
the
commission
and
ms
cantrell
who
sits
on
the
commission
and
councilmember
waring.
C
I
do
think
there
will
be
a
series
of
recommendations
that
will
come
back.
I
don't
know
councilmember
griffin,
if
you're
going
to
get
what
you
just
asked
for,
because
it
may
not
exist,
but
we'll
see
how
that
all
goes
but
they're
still
working.
We
meet
every
week
at
least,
and
I
also
want
to
shout
out
to
ms
cozzella
who's
back.
There
I
think,
she's
here
somewhere.
She
is
really
I
mean,
as
the
staff
member
guiding
this
commission.
C
I
don't
know
how
many
hours
you
put
in,
but
we
keep
verbatim
minutes,
I
mean,
and
these
meetings
go
on
two
hours.
So
it's
really
been.
I,
I
think,
a
labor
of
love,
but
it's
certainly
been
laborious.
So
thank
you
for
all.
You
do
and
much
more
to
come
faster,
your
seatbelts,
because
this
is
a
big
project,
a
lot
of
implications
and
I
think
you're
going
to
hear
a
lot
of
differing
viewpoints
from
the
commission.
C
L
L
L
One
day
this
guy
never
gets
upset,
so
he's
got
a
very
calm
demeanor
when
you're
trying
to
it's,
not
like
herding
cats,
when
you
got
talented
people
around
the
table-
and
we
do
so
thank
you
for
what
you've
done,
and
certainly
thank
for
everybody
on
that
committee,
in
particular
the
people
all
of
myself
directed
and
they
don't
hold
back
their
truest
opinions
and
that's
what
we
need
to
come
forward.
So
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
A
A
All
right,
so
next
up
is
an
update
on
our
city's
response
to
cobit
19.
tracy
mckee
is
going
to
give
us
a
very
brief
presentation
on
where
we
are,
which
is
getting
better
all
the
time.
I
think
the
beatles
wrote
a
song
about
that,
but
the
numbers
are
continuing
to
go
down
and
I
think
she's
getting
the
controller.
D
D
M
M
M
I
just
want
to
point
out
october
of
last
year,
even
though
our
case
numbers
are
going
down,
the
total
numbers
are
still
twice
as
many
as
we
were
seeing
this
time
last
year,
so
the
numbers
are
still
fairly
high
and
then
we
look
at
berkeley
county
and
it's
actually
more
significant
in
berkeley
county
and
because
those
case
numbers,
those
total
numbers
are
still
high.
Cdc
still
has
berkeley
and
charleston
counties
listed
as
high
level
of
transmission,
which
is
actually
the
highest
level
in
their
rating
system.
M
I
share
this
because
this
is
some
of
the
concern
that
I'm
hearing
from
from
our
medical
community.
This
is
kind
of
the
recent
trend
in
hot
spots
across
the
us,
and
you
may
remember
you
may
remember.
Last
year
dr
sweat
came
and
talked
about
the
trend
and
seeing
cases
go
up
in
areas
where
it
was
starting
to
get
cold
and
how
that
kind
of
trickled
south.
Well
that
trend
they're
starting
to
see
that
trend
again
already
this
year.
So
that's
just
a
cautionary
thing.
M
M
M
M
K
Really
with
your
report
other
than
we
I
didn't
see
on
there
about
our
our
city,
employees
that
are
vaccinated-
that
wasn't
part
of
your
report,
but
I
brought
this
up
in
in
public
works.
Yesterday,
I'm
very
very
concerned
at
the
low
number
of
city
employees
that
are
vaccinated,
even
though
our
numbers
are
higher
than
charleston
county.
K
The
news
reported
today,
news
2
reported
that
only
69
percent
of
our
employees
were
fully
vaccinated
and
3
percent
were
partially
vaccinated.
As
of
october
11.,
8
percent
of
employees
sought
religious
exemptions,
while
a
reported
17
percent
were
non-compliant
with
the
policy
of
the
17
percent
across
the
board
in
non-compliance,
103
were
in
the
police
department,
accounting
for
about
20
percent
of
the
department
as
a
whole.
K
Nearly
40
percent
of
the
recreation
department
was
reported
to
be
non-compliant.
My
question
tonight
is
we're
coming
up.
Just
in
a
few
weeks
on
this
deadline,
we
are,
could
lose
20
percent
of
our
police
department,
40
percent
of
our
recreation
department.
What
are
we
doing
as
a
city
to?
If
are
we
trying
to
convince
our
employees
still
to
get
it?
Are
we
offering
some
sort
of
incentive,
and
what
are
we
going
to
do?
K
K
K
So
I'm
just
wondering
what
what
we're
going
to
do-
and
maybe
that's
not
a
question
that
needs
to
be
answered
tonight,
but
I'm
very
concerned
that
our
council
never
took
up
this
issue.
It
was
done
as
an
executive
order,
but
yet
we're
the
ones
as
council
that
are
getting
the
calls
from
our
city
employees.
K
A
A
I
was
just
saying
I'm
happy
to
respond
to
that
question,
because
our
city
is
doing
a
lot
to
look
out
for
the
health
and
safety
of
our
employees
and
not
only
our
employees,
but
our
citizens
as
well
as
tracy
mentioned.
It's
it's
the
best
weapon
having
a
vaccination
against
this
terrible
disease
that
we've
faced
over
the
last
year
and
a
half.
A
A
A
We
followed,
you
know
north
charleston,
the
city
of
north
charleston,
and
this
and
the
county
of
charleston,
even
the
saint
john's
fire
district
put
in
a
vaccination
policy
as
well,
and
so
they're
going
to
come
up
with
their
deadline
a
little
before
ours.
I
think
I
don't
know
the
exact
dates,
but
I
think
they're,
two
or
three
weeks
out
and
we're
five
weeks
out
anyway,
with
12
percent
left
to
be
compliant.
A
I
must
share
with
you
on
the
service
front
council,
member
griffin,
that
you
know
there's
another
way
of
looking
at
it
and
that's
how
many
people
are
out
of
service
if
they
don't
get
vaccinated.
Of
course,
we're
making
good
progress
so
we're
we're
not
going
to
be
as
as
vulnerable
as
we
have
been
over
the
last
year
and
a
half,
but
just
to
share
with
you.
We
had
service
concerns
before
the
vaccine
came
along
because
we
would
have
so
many
employees
who
were
out
sick
or
who
were
out
quarantined.
A
So
since
the
time
of
the
pandemic,
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
we've
had
406
cases
of
covet
amongst
our
city.
Employees
and
just
those
406
cases
led
to
lost
hours
almost
26
000
hours
of
employee
time,
because
they
were
sick.
In
addition,
because
of
quarantine
and
child
care
and
other
you
know,
fallout
from
kovid
there's
been
38
129
sick
hours
registered
just
do
the
covid
in
the
last
18
months,
at
a
cost
to
the
city
of
almost
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars.
A
So
I
would
make
the
very,
I
think,
appropriate
argument
that
that
we
lose
money
and
we
risk
giving
service
to
our
citizens
by
not
being
vaccinated,
and
so
that's
what
this
policy
is
partly
about,
but
highest
priority
was
health
and
safety
for
our
employees,
not
just
for
themselves,
because
it's
it's
clearly
proven
that
your
risk
of
hospitalization
and
death
is
so
greatly
reduced
if
you're
vaccinated.
So
that's
for
you
personally,
but
then
you
can
spread
covet
to
your
family
and
to
your
fellow
employees.
It's
not
just
looking
out
for
me.
A
It's
looking
out
for
my
fellow
employees
as
well,
so
councilmember,
respectfully,
we've
got
a
great
effort
going.
Our
our
hr
department
has
been
on
this
they're
tracking
the
numbers.
Every
day,
more
people
are
signing
up
every
day
or
reporting
to
us.
Their
vaccination
we've
offered
vaccination
clinics
at
milford
street
at
our
public
service
facility.
We've
offered
it
at
our
parks
department.
A
A
We
are
making
it
as
easy
as
possible
for
everyone
to
get
one,
and
admittedly
we
have
answered
a
lot
of
concerns
and
questions
about
the
vaccine
to
many
employees.
Yes,
a
lot
of
questions
have
come
up
and
we've
done
our
best
to
address
them
and
and
that's
led
to
a
higher
number.
We
now
have
71
of
our
city
employees,
who
are
fully
vaccinated
71,
which
is
well
above
the
53
percent
that
just
got
reported
for
the
state
average.
So
I
think
we're
doing
a
great
job.
I'm
thankful!
We
have
the
policy
in
place.
A
A
I
would
respectfully
say
that's
more
about
our
presentation
that
we
had
earlier
today
with
our
budget
scenario
and
how
we
compare
with
the
job
market.
I
mean,
I
don't
know
if
you've
been
around
driving
around
or
anywhere,
but
I
see
help
wanted
signs
everywhere.
There's
a
lot
of
people
looking
for
workers
and
and
there's
a
lot
of
demand
out
there
and
we've
got
up
our
game
as
a
as
a
council
to
pay
our
employees
a
little
bit
more
money
and
that's
going
to
be
tough
again
this
year.
A
But
as
councilmember
warren
said
the
other
day
we
look
better
than
we
did
last
year,
but
it's
still
going
to
be
tough,
but
we've
got
to
commit
to
a
a
cost
of
living,
increase
and
adjustment
for
our
employees
for
next
year,
and
and
that's
that's
the
story
of
our
attracting
employees
right
now,
you
know,
if
you
look
at
the
totals,
we
started
the
year
with
1738
employees
on
january
1st
of
this
year
we
are
now
down.
I
think
I
misquoted
a
minute
ago,
we're
now
down
to
1716..
A
I
hate
to
see
it
and
we
got
some
other
positions
we
need
to
fill.
But
that's
that's
about
one
percent
of
the
workforce
and
our
all
of
our
staff
is
is
doing
their
best
to
attract
employees.
So,
while
we're
online,
let
me
just
say:
if
you're
looking
for
employment,
please
check
out
our
city
of
charleston
website
for
job
opportunities.
A
K
K
It
doesn't
matter
what
kind
of
job
we
do
as
a
city
over
these
last
five
weeks
when
you
have
over
a
hundred
people
in
the
police
department
that
could
potentially
that
are
in
non-compliance
and
could
potentially
lose
their
job.
I
know
nobody,
even
if
we
we
work
our
tails
off
these
last
few
weeks
and
it's
40..
How
could
we
lose
40
people
out
of
our
police
department?
A
Well,
thank
you
and
you
might
have
noticed
when
we
talked
about
the
employees
that
are
hiring
for
the
police
department,
it's
better
than
any
other
department.
I
think
in
the
city
right
now
and
I'll
just
tell
you,
council
member,
I
have
looked
in
my
heart
and
if
we
save
one
life
because
of
this
policy,
it
is
worth
doing.
I
have
looked
in
my
heart
and
I
think
it's
worth
saving
lives
and
protecting
people's
health
council
member
shade.
D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I'm
gonna
ask
amy
to
just
verify
this
for
me,
but
on
one
of
the
slides
you
showed
us
earlier
today
and
I
think
is
one
of
the
same
slides.
You
showed
us
at
our
budget
meeting.hack
budget
meeting
and
you
were
going
through
the
numbers
of
the
attrition
rate,
but
I'm
correctly
pleased
if
I'm
mistaking
this,
but
I
believe
that
the
police
department
had
one
of
the
highest
retention
rates
of
all
the
other
departments.
Am
I
correct
in
that
statement.
M
H
D
Right
so
if
if
a
person-
and
I
know
you
may
not
be-
the
person
asked
this
question,
but
if
a
person
does
not
want
the
vaccine
because
of
a
religious
or
medical
reason,
they
have
the
opportunity
to
opt
out
of
that,
and
that
constitutes
part
of
this
compliance.
Number
that
the
mayor
just
mentioned
to
us.
Am
I
correct
on
that
as
well.
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I,
along
with
councilman
sheila,
had
the
opportunity
to
attend
the
charleston
police
department,
citizen
police
academy
session,
the
first
of
this
class
this
past
wednesday,
and
I
was
floored
when
I
was
told
by
one
of
our
officers
that
we
have
more
applications
in
the
pipeline
than
open
positions.
I
might
have
the
numbers
a
little
off
here,
but
I
think
what
they
said
was
150
or
so
applications
in
the
pipeline,
and
maybe
you
know,
30
or
40
spots
open.
I
So
we
certainly
have
some
challenges
from
staffing
perspective.
Public
works
stormwater
things
of
that
nature,
but
we
are
kicking
butt
in
terms
of
police
and
fire,
and
I
can't
be
more
proud
of
our
leadership
chief
reynolds
chief
couria
and
all
of
my
colleagues
on
city
council,
as
well
as
the
mayor
for
doing
what
we
need
to
do
to
make
that
happen.
I
I
asked
the
folks
at
the
police
citizens
session
what
the
number
one
challenge
was
for
recruitment
and
retention,
and
it's
affordable
housing.
It's
pay!
It's
it's,
not
the
vaccine,
it's
just
not!
So
we
need
to
be
very
clear-eyed
about
what
our
challenges
are
as
a
city,
because,
as
the
mayor
indicated,
and
I
think
we've
talked
about
today,
we
are
going
to
have
some
tough
decisions
to
make
come
budget
time.
Remember
we
were
talking
a
lot
about
mills
last
november
last
december.
I
Those
conversations
are
going
to
be
coming
back
up
and
we
need
to
be
very
clear-eyed
about
what
the
challenges
are
from
a
staffing
perspective,
we're
not
the
only
entity.
That's
that's
struggling
with
maintaining
staff
right
now,
restaurants
are
struggling.
All
different
kinds
of
businesses
are
struggling,
so
we
need
to
be
very
clear-eyed
and
sober
about
what
our
specific
challenges
are
and
what
the
reality
is.
I
Not
what
you
know
some
you
know,
hypotheticals
are,
or
some
ideas
are,
so
we
can
very
clear-eyed
attack
the
problem
to
make
sure
that
we
provide
our
citizens
with
the
best
services
they
deserve.
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
anecdote
about
the
police
department
and
I'm
just
thrilled
by
how
great
of
a
job
we're
doing
as
a
city
on
our
first
and
foremost,
you
know
job,
which
is
law
enforcement
and
public
safety,
frontline
workers.
Thank
you.
A
H
H
L
A
My
intention
at
this
point,
other
than
the
challenges
we've
had
of
getting
a
space
is,
is
to
meet
in
person
from
here
here
on
out,
to
be
honest
with
you
yeah
all
right,
any
other
questions
all
in
favor.
Please
say
I
I
any
opposed
the
eyes,
haven't
that's
for
five
and
six
together
all
right.
So
next
up
is
our
council
committee
reports.
First
council
member
waring
with
committee
on
public
works.
L
A
We
got
a
motion
to
approve
and
a
second
any
discussion
on
any
of
those
items.
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
next
up
is
our
bills.
For
second
reading
we
have
eight
items
just
given
the
gravity
of
of
adopting
the
comprehensive
plan.
I'd
respectfully
ask
that
we
take
that
separately
and
then
any
others
that
that
we
need
to
take
separately.
But
let's
start
with
number
one,
if
we
we
may
robert
summer,
we
have
a
motion
for
approval
for
and
a
second
for
second
reading.
A
N
I
just
need
to
make
one
more
statement
in
representing
the
territory
that
I've
come
to
know
and
love
over
the
last
many
years
and
then
speaking
with
the
residents.
So
I
I
do
disagree
with
moving
the
urban
growth
boundary.
I've
had
many
good
conversations
with
staff
on
in
the
planning
department
and
I
understand
their
rationale.
N
I
know
we
have
an
oxymoron
out
there
because
I
think,
mistakenly,
we
approved
a
multi-family
apartment
property
years
ago,
as
well
as
a
subdivision
that
really
should
be
in
areas
that
we
could
have
done
a
much
better
job
of
protecting
if
we'd
made
more
protective
development
decisions
way
back
when
so,
I
just
need
to
say
that
I
really,
I
really
wish
that
we
would
reconsider
the
urban
growth
boundary
right
now.
It's
it's
not
anything
in
writing.
N
So
if
we
ever
come
to
make
that
arrangement
where
we
actually
have
a
written
agreement
with
the
county,
then
I
would
still
like
to
hold
my
position
open
to
to
hope
that
we
can
leave
that
urban
growth
boundary
where
it
is
on
james
island
and
the
other.
The
other
item
that
I
don't
think
we've
ever
really
discussed
as
a
council,
and
it
bothers
me
that
the
the
state
and
the
county
are
an
active
project
planning
work
for
the
completion.
They
don't
call
it
526
any
longer.
They
call
it.
N
I
do
think
it's
interesting
that,
since
the
last
vote,
the
city
council
was
asked
to
make
by
the
state
and
the
county
in
2016.
There
are
now
seven
new
council
members
seated
in
our
offices
and
we've
never
been
asked
to
reprise
that
vote
or
have
any
more
holistic
discussion
of
account
as
a
council.
So
again
I
just
want
to
be
on
the
record.
I
do
think
that
we
deserve
to
talk
about
some
of
the
iterations
of
that
road
bed.
N
The
way
that
john's
island
has
continued
to
be
developed
leads
to
a
lot
of
road
changes
that
we've
never
really
had
on
our
plate.
So
I
would
like
to
be
on
record
for
that,
but
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
phases
that
that
could
be
discussed
and
worked
on
in
the
phase
one
from
west
ashley
to
john's
island
and
phase
two
could
be
john's
island
to
james
island.
That's
the
one
that
I
think
is
is
less
important
as
an
overall
travel
route
set
of.
N
A
Yes,
pam.
Thank
you
for
those
observations,
any
other
questions
or
comments,
hearing,
none
all
in
favor
of
second
reading
number,
one
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
any
opposed
the
eyes
haven't
now
for
third
reading
and
ratification.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
We
have
a
request
from
the
applicant
on
number
two
and
three
to
defer.
A
So
we
don't
need
to
take
those
matters
up
this
evening.
That
leaves
us
with
items
four
through
eight,
so
move.
We
take
a.
We
have
a
motion
for
second
reading
for
items.
Four
through
eight
any
questions
councilman
wearing.
We
got
a
second
right
here,
all
right
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
you're
happy!
Mr
mayor.
Oh
I
I'm
sorry
councilmember
brady!
C
You,
mr
mayor,
I
just
wanted
to
on
the
johns
island
municipal
improvement
district.
I
had
chatted
a
little
bit
with
christopher
about
the
idea
for
a
reimbursement
process.
Should
developers
do
a
project
that
would
be
proposed
by
the
mid
in
terms
of
prioritization,
and
I
was
hoping
christopher,
you
could
just
share.
We
elected
not
to
amend
the
ordinance,
but
there
was
a
idea
that
you
would
kind
of
flow
to
know.
Somebody
could
speak
on
that
and
then
just
also
when
the
mid
would
go
into
force
or
have
robert.
C
O
Essentially,
if
you
do
have
a
private
developer,
who's
going
to
propose
to
fund
and
implement
a
project
that
would
otherwise
be
mid-eligible,
then
it
would
be
at
the
discretion
of
the
council
to
enact
through
the
agreements
that
would
allow
them
to
do
that
public
project
to
either
defer
defray
or
reimburse
from
the
mid
funds
that
those
funds
towards
that
project.
So
that's
completely
within
your
discretion
as
a
council
to
be
able
to
do
that
into
the
future.
O
L
L
O
So
I'll
take
that
councilman.
So
yes,
so
the
the
mid
would
be
assessed
on
new
development,
so
at
occupancy
of
that
new
development.
So
if
a
developer
is
developing
a
new
residential
unit
or
doing
an
expansion
of
a
commercial
location
or
a
new
build
at
a
commercial
location,
the
mid
would
apply
only
to
that
new
development.
At
the
time
of
occupancy.
L
O
So
I'm
gonna,
let
miss
wharton
answer
a
little
bit,
but
timing,
yes,
will
be
a
point
of
consideration
because
the
mid
may
not
have
much
in
terms
of
actual
funding,
so
there
could
be
future
payments
if
they
could
be
forgiven.
The
council
could
say
that
they
do
not
have
to
pay
their
mid
payment
over
the
course
of
the
30
years.
If
they
were
to
front
load,
the
the
funding
for
whatever
that
particular
project
might
be,
but.
O
O
I
mean,
as
the
mid
matures
there
might
be
money
available
to
then
assist
with
that
and
then
those
future
property
owners
be
forgiven,
the
mid
costs,
but
in
the
early
years
I'm
not
entirely
sure
how
we
might
do
that,
and
I
don't
think
we,
I
don't
think
we've
resolved
how
we
would
fund
or
refund
or
not
require
the
mid
in
the
early
years.
Based
on
the
question.
Listen.
L
I
mean
I'm
on
the
edge
with
this
mid
thing.
You
know
that
councilman
I'm
trying
to
go
with
you
on
this,
but
if
you're
gonna,
when
it
comes
to
you
know
paying
developers
on
money
that
hadn't
been
received.
Yet
you
know,
I
know
one
thing
about
tiff's
tiss
aren't
atm
machines.
Okay,
the
advantage
of
a
tiff
is
getting
monies
in
and
hopefully
being
able
to
bond
it.
L
So
if
this
is
similar
to,
if
we
take
out
initial
revenues
to
reimburse
potentially
a
developer,
who
fronted
an
expense,
then
there'll
be
less
money
to
bond
to
get
larger
amounts
to
do
bigger
projects.
So
I
think
this
is
getting
on
the
slippery
slope,
but
we're
going
to
be
reimbursing
developers
out
of
funds
that
haven't
been
received
yet
so.
C
This
could
be
a
process
by
which
we
get
to
kind
of
the
mid
itself,
wouldn't
be
picking
up
the
total
cost.
The
developer
could
do
it
because
they
want
to
do
it
as
part
of
their
development,
but
then
they
could
seek
reimbursement
for
a
partialness
or
partial
cost
of
that.
So
that
was
kind
of
the
idea
was
that
the
mid
money
could
be
stretched
if
there
were
developers
that
were
looking
to.
L
E
L
A
I
I
think
the
bottom
line
is
that
any
agreement
like
like
we're
discussing
right
now
would
have
to
be
approved
by
council
number
one
and
would
have
to
be
a
project
that
was
on
our
priority
list.
So
you
wouldn't
go
through
all
the
trouble
unless
it
was
something
that
we
wanted
to
happen
in
the
district
anyway,
councilmember
griffin.
What's
the.
O
So
again,
councilman
when,
if
if
this
passes
this
evening,
we
will
then
go
to
the
next
step,
which
would
be
to
actually
notify
each
property
that
they
would
now
be
in
the
mid
district
again.
Assessments
would
only
be
billed
if
you
hit
the
trigger
mark
so
right
now,
no
one
is
going
to
hit
the
trigger
mark,
but
we
do
anticipate
over
the
next
couple
months.
O
O
I
apologize
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
I
understand
the
years
here,
because
fiscal
year
so
it'd
be
the
2022
tax
bill
that
would
be
due
either
at
the
end
of
the
year
or
the
beginning
of
2023.
However,
the
when
the
tax
is
due,
so
we
we
would
be
going
on
the
next
tax
year
next
tax
year,
not
this
tax
year.
We
won't
see
first
off
there's
no
one.
That's
hit
the
trigger
for
today.
O
K
And
I
want
to
support
this
too
councilmember
brady.
I'm
really
glad
that
you've
put
so
much
effort
into
this,
but
I
would
the
only
thing
holding
me
back
is
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
to
have
a
robust
look
back
after
this
first
year
and
really
go
into
depth
how
successful
this
has
been,
because
we
don't
have
anything
like
it
and
I'm
just
concerned.
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
I
think
it's
worth
a
chance,
but
I
don't
know
how
how
beneficial
it's
going
to
be
so,
hopefully
after
we
get
that
first
assessment.
O
Councilman,
we
will
definitely
report
back.
I
would
caution
everybody,
though,
that
we
are,
I
mean,
even
in
our
best
case
scenario,
we're
not
going
to
expect
to
see
any
significant
revenue
from
this
in
the
first
couple
years.
There's
just
we
have
to
wait
for
a
number
of
units
to
come
online
because
again
we're
not
assessing
this
on
existing
projects.
This
is
only
for
future
projects
for
a
future
dwelling
units
or
commercial.
O
So
to
your
point,
we
definitely
want
to
report
back
and
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
the
health
of
the
mid,
but
I
would
caution
that
in
the
early
years
we're
not
anticipating
that
there's
going
to
be
significant
revenue
coming
in
in
those
early
years,
because
it's
only
480
per
unit.
So
it's
not
a
significant
assessment
and
again
it'll
have
to
build
up
over
time.
A
It's
in
that
way,
it's
similar
to
a
tif
district
as
well
like
the
church,
creek
basin
district
we've.
We
approved
it.
What
two
or
three
years
ago-
and
I
I
think
maybe
next
year-
would
be
the
first
time
we'll
see
some
real.
You
know
results
from
it,
some
income,
so
it
may
take
a
while
council
member
appel.
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
carl
good
job
hats
off
for
coming
forward
with
a
program,
that's
designed
to
fix
some
really
unique
issues
out
on
john's
island,
so
kudos
to
that,
my
question
has
to
do
with
how
are
properties
flagged
as
part
of
the
development
review.
You
know
how
does
it,
how
is
it
captured
in
the
ordinary
course
through?
What
I
would
assume
would
be
our
permitting
process.
I
O
So,
mr
mayor,
through
you
so
councilman,
so
not
to
bore
everybody,
but
so
we
have
the
intergov
system.
For
those
of
you
who
know
that's
our
data
management
solution
for
the
city
that
tracks
all
of
our
permitting
processes
within
intergov.
There
are
flags
within
there
and
triggers
within
there
for
when
a
certificate
of
construction
completion
is
issued.
O
We
will
then
run
a
report
and
query
that
we
may
run
those
reports
once
a
month,
but
it
will
do
a
final
official
report
at
the
appropriate
time
in
order
to
get
the
parcels
that
have
seen
a
certificate
of
construction
completion,
which
is
essentially
for
those
of
you
from
other
areas.
That's
the
certificate
of
occupancy
stage,
and
so
essentially,
once
that
has
been
issued,
that's
the
trigger,
if
you're
one
of
the
properties,
that's
in
the
district,
that's
the
trigger,
and
then
at
that
point
that
will
create
our
assessment
role.
I
Beautiful
I
love
nerding
out
on
those
details,
quick,
quick
follow-up
question.
I
know
we're
trying
to
get
get
out
of
here,
but
but
would
this
also
apply
to
like
redevelopment
and,
let's
say,
for
example,
there's
a
shopping
center
and
there's
a
fast
food
restaurant
and
it's
going
to
be
turned
into
say
a
another
type
of
commercial
business
with?
I
would
assume
that,
under
the
ordinary
course
of
business,
that
would
require
a
new
co,
potentially
depending
on
how
they
do
the
upfit
things
of
that
nature.
O
So
that
would
mr
mayor
three
so
councilman.
So
that's
a
good
point.
So,
yes,
that
would
get
a
new
certificate
of
construction
completion
on
that
tenant
improvement.
However,
we
will
be
looking
specifically,
and
there
will
be
some
quality
control
of
that,
so
it
won't
just
be
we'll
take
a
report
from
the
system
and
hand
the
report
to
council
for
them
to
approve.
We
will
actually
be
going
through
and
reviewing
those
permits
to
ensure
that
nothing
that
is
a
one-for-one,
so
I'm
rehabbing
an
existing
commercial
space
that
that
doesn't
qualify.
O
It's
only
when
you
add
additional
square
footage
that
doesn't
exist
today
that
you
would
trigger
it.
So
we
will
be
doing
quality
control
specifically
to
ensure
that
we
don't
have
that
we're
working
with
the
folks
in
the
permit
center
now
on
some
standardized
language
that
can
also
help
in
the
reporting
tracking.
What
is
just
a
remodel
versus
what
is
new
square
footage,
that's
being
added
to
a
particular
site.
O
Yes,
we
do
so
the
again
the
language
is
pretty
clear.
If
a
parent
parcel
that's
in
the
district
subdivides
that
again,
that's
one
of
the
triggers
that
that
then
would
we
would
be
then
looking
for
that
construction
completion
permit
on
those
individual
homes
or
individual,
whatever
the
development
is
going
to
be
to
be
clear,
though,
if
it
subdivides
and
no
construction
occurs,
the
assessment
will
not
kick
in
until
that
construction
occurs
and
is
ready
for
occupancy.
L
You
told
him
we're
going
to
be
doing
business.
You
know,
hopefully
with
an
entity
from
his
country
and
you're
right
about
that.
If
everything
worked
out
right,
but
we
all
know
that
when
that
company
found
out
what
the
mid
tax
was
going
to
be,
they
refused
to
come
to
johns
island
unless
they
got
opted
out,
because
the
tax
was
going
to
be
that
high
and
we're
just
looking
straight
past
that
those
jobs
wouldn't
be
coming
to
johns
island,
but
for
exempting
that
company
away
from
the
mid
tax.
L
L
They
don't
have
a
mid
text,
so
my
councilman,
you
did
do
a
lot
of
work
on
this
one,
but
when
it
comes
to
actual
business
in
the
city
of
charleston,
we
got
the
number
one
be
the
number
one
tourist
destination,
not
because
of
mid
tax.
I
think
it's
anti-affordable
housing
too,
you
say
only
480
dollars,
but
when
you
get
in
your
first
house,
480
a
year
is
a
lot.
L
B
A
L
A
Great,
so
we
don't
have
any
items
up
for
first
reading
we
have
on
the
agenda
to
have
a.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
pretty
brief
executive
session,
I'm
recusing
myself.
So
I'm
going
to
respectfully
exit
the
building
and
ask
mayor
pro
tem
if,
after
executive
session,
you
would
close
our
meeting
out
for
us.
N
A
A
N
A
Your
family,
our
next
meeting,
will
be
a
city
council
workshop
on
october.
21St
has
already
been
mentioned
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
three
by
three
plan
and
then
the
next
regular
city
council
meeting
will
be
tuesday
october
26th
and
y'all
that's
going
to
be
at
the
gill
yard.
I'm
pretty
sure
the
next
couple
of
meetings
we've
got
lined
up
to
be
at
the
gill
yard.
I
do
want
to
share
with
you
that
per
the
policy
of
the
gill
yard.
A
That's
a
vaccination
requirement
or
either
proof
of
a
negative
covid
test
either
one
would
be
fine.
So
when,
when
you
come
on
the
28th,
please
bring
your
card
or
proof
of
of
of
a
negative
test
for
that
meeting
for
us
to
assemble
there
and
anything
else
to
come
before
us
before
we
go
to
executive
session.