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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 7/19/22 1/2
A
B
D
D
So
I'm
hoping
and
praying
that
the
most
high
would
see
foot
that
he
would
come
into
our
midst
and
help
us
and
help
the
community
and
help
this
nation
to
solve
some
of
the
problems
that
we
are
going
through,
and
also
that
no
one
person,
no
one
group
knows
it
all.
We
need
to
work
together
in
army
and
peace
to
make
the
city
of
charleston
and
this
state
and
this
country
the
best
place
it
could
be
for
everyone
to
live,
amen,
amen.
B
So
our
first
order
of
business
this
evening
is
a
proclamation
recognizing
ashley
pennington,
who
has
served
as
the
ninth
circuit
public
defender,
I'd
like
to
invite
ashley
and
his
family
and
councilmember
bowden
to
join
us
up
here
on
the
podium.
You're
all
welcome
to
come
up.
If
you
will
robin
and
his
daughter,
joy
and
sean
his
son.
B
Now
my
children
were
in
grammar
school
with
sean
and
joy
and
sean
your
beard
is
a
little
longer
than
it
was
when
you
were
in
grammar
school
good
to
see
you
again,
and
this
was
requested
by
councilmember
bowden.
But
I
must
share
with
the
public
that
there
are
many
strong
relationships
here
with
ashley
and
his
family
and
we're
so
proud
of
his
service.
And
may
I
also
introduce
and
ask
to
join
us
judge,
markly
dennis
who
came
to
attend
as
well,
and
one
of
the
many
judges
that
that
ashley
has
served
under.
B
So
the
proclamation
reads
as
whereas
the
city
of
charleston
is
proud
to
recognize
charleston
county
public
defender,
ashley
pennington
pennington,
as
he
retires
on
august,
2nd
14
years
after
he
began
work
as
the
9th
circuit
public
defender,
but
he's
had
a
whole
lifetime
of
service.
In
this
regard,
whereas
after
being
admitted
to
the
south,
carolina
bar
in
1980
ashley
began
his
career
as
a
public
defender
in
richland
county
and
later
in
chicago
illinois.
B
He
has
served
in
that
this
position
with
great
fortitude
and
strength
character
and
has
upheld
the
standard
of
his
position
requires
that
all
indigent
residents
in
charleston
berkeley
county
have
access
to
representation
in
criminal
cases
and
whereas
ashley
is
admired
and
respected
by
his
colleagues
and
by
this
community.
His
numerous
awards
and
recognitions
give
insight
not
only
into
his
work
ethic,
but
also
to
his
character.
He
was
awarded
the
order
of
the
palmetto
by
governor
jim
hodges.
B
Back
in
2002
was
named
in
the
best
lawyers
in
america
for
a
number
of
years
and
also
awarded
the
gedny
howe
award
by
the
charleston
county
bar
association,
whereas
ashley
pennington
has
been
a
true
servant
to
this
community.
That
is
true.
While
he
will
be
missed
in
his
current
position.
We
know
that
his
work
is
never
complete
and
that
he
will
continue
to
sound
the
alarm
for
systemic
issues
and
advocate
for
change
within
the
criminal
justice
system.
B
It
is
our
honor
to
recognize
him
today
to
thank
him
for
his
many
years
of
service
as
a
ninth
circuit
public
defender,
and
we
wish
him
well
all
the
best
in
the
future.
Now,
therefore,
I
john
j
tucker
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston
do
hereby
proclaim
today,
tuesday
july
19
2022,
it's
ashley
pennington
day
in
the
city
of
charleston
ashley.
F
F
People
that
know
me
know
that
the
secret
to
the
success
of
my
life
has
been
that
I
have
started
out.
I
married
up
someone,
that's
smarter
and
better
than
I
was,
and
I've
continued
that
process
throughout
my
entire
career,
hiring
folks,
who
have
been
able
to
be
both
smarter
and
more
capable
than
I
and
have
gotten
the
job
done.
F
It's.
I
think
worthy
of
note
that
in
this
chamber,
where
we
sit
and
the
chamber
that's
right
across
the
street,
where
I
work,
we
are
dealing
with
the
most
difficult
struggles
and
challenges
of
our
community
they're,
the
problems
that
are
hardest
to
solve,
and
I
really
admire
the
courage
of
this
body
and
the
work
that
they
do
to
promote
healing
for
our
community.
F
I
was
born
at
a
time
when
that
was
brand
new
and
so
in
1980
I
was
a
baby
public
defender
learning
the
ropes
and
it's
been
a
joy
for
me
to
help
young
lawyers
grow
and
to
what
I
believe
to
create
a
sense
of
credibility
for
our
legal
system.
Now
we
have
not,
we
don't
garner
applause
or
put
out
there
every
time
we
win
a
case.
F
Maybe
that
was
an
error
on
our
part,
but
we
have
a
young
bright
new
circuit
defender
cameron,
blazer
who's,
going
to
do
an
outstanding
job,
that's
going
to
be
taking
office
next
month.
I
just
want
people
to
know
that
something
wonderful
is
happening
in
charleston
county
with
criminal
justice.
It's
not
just
that
the
courts
are
here
and
that
people
have
lawyers,
but
the
city
of
charleston,
the
chief
of
police
representatives
of
the
police
department,
have
worked
together
with
the
sheriff's
office
and
other
departments
to
create
a
magnificent
criminal
justice
coordinating
council.
F
That
has
been
working
diligently
to
examine
the
disparate
impacts
of
criminal
justice
and
also
ways
to
promote
healing,
and
so
I
pledge
to
continue
to
work
in
that
council
in
that
capacity,
and
also
with
our
state
prison
systems
and
jails
where
we
need
to
promote
healing
there
as
well.
I
think
it's
the
only
way
forward
and
it
represents,
in
my
view
what
democracy
is,
which
is
that
every
person
matters,
but
I
am
intensely
grateful
to
this
body
for
this
recognition
today.
Thank
you
again,
mr
mayor.
H
Thanks
everybody-
and
this
is
a
very
cool
moment
for
me,
because
how
often
do
you
meet
somebody
in
life
who
is
so
authentically
good
who
lives
their
faith
every
day
in
a
way
that
you
just
can't
deny
and
how
much
rarer
still
to
be
able
to
work
for
that
person?
Have
that
person
serve
as
a
mentor
and
and
truly
support,
like
he
said
young
lawyers,
nobody
can
ever
say
it
better
than
ashley
pennington
said
himself.
H
E
We
cannot
do
the
work
of
criminal
justice
system
without
people
like
you,
you
made
the
system
better,
more
efficient,
more
fairer,
your
service
to
your
clients
and
to
all
those
who
came
to
that
office
was
always
at
the
highest
caliber.
We
wish
you
well,
we
will.
We
will
miss
you
as
you
go
on
to
your
next
career.
God
bless
you.
God
bless
your
family
and
thank
you
ashley.
Thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
did
on
behalf
of
your
community.
B
B
Yeah
grandchild
so
y'all.
This
is
dr
thomas
godfrey
quattabaum.
This
was
requested
by
his
local
council
member
councilmember
seekings,
but
once
again
dr
quad
obama
is
known
and
beloved
in
our
community,
whereas
the
city
of
charleston
is
proud
to
recognize
one
of
its
most
dedicated
citizens.
Dr
thomas
godfrey
waddlebaum,
a
patron
of
the
arts,
an
accomplished
pianist,
a
former
board
member
at
spaletto,
usa
festival
and
a
member
of
the
vestry
at
grace
church
cathedral.
B
The
city
of
charleston
extends
its
sincere
appreciation
for
his
years
of
service
to
this
community.
The
citizens
of
charleston
benefited
from
his
kind
and
observant
nature,
his
intelligent
diagnoses
and
his
dedication
to
the
pursuit
of
lifelong
scholarship,
love
of
the
arts
and
faith.
It
is
our
great
honor
to
recognize
him
today
and
to
wish
him
all
the
best
in
the
future.
Now,
therefore,
I
john
j
teckenberg
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston,
also
proclaimed
today
is
dr
thomas,
godfrey
autobomb
in
the
city
of
charleston
doc.
D
G
Very
briefly,
so
what
makes
a
good
and
great
community
mayor
it's
the
good
and
great
people
that
are
in
it
and
those
who
take
pride
of
and
ownership
in
it
and
boy.
Does
dr
paul
obama
personify
that
in
spades
I
mean
it's
incredible
what
he
has
done
in
this
community
and
I
look
as
I
look
at
him.
I
was
asking
him,
you
know
now
he's
retired.
What's
he
going
to
do
and
and
dr
claudelbaum,
you
know,
there's
a
certain
elected
official
here,
sort
of
upped
the
local
demand
for
piano
playing.
G
So
I
suspect,
there's
some
gigs
out
there
for
you,
but
I
know
that
you're
not
good.
This
isn't
the
end
for
you.
This
is
the
beginning
and
we're
going
to
look
forward
to
see
everything
that
you
do
in
our
community
going
forward
and
keeping
it
good
and
great
because
of
people
like
you.
So
thank
you
for
your
service.
G
B
To
note
the
wonderful
staff
that
worked
on
this
tracy
mckee
our
information
technology,
folks,
I.t
and
also
the
clerk's
office,
to
provide
more
ways
for
the
public
to
engage
with
the
city
during
covet.
And
while
we
had
virtual
meetings
and
all
like
that,
so
I
I
do
want
to
quote
this.
One
statistic
that
they
use,
which
which
I
think
is
notable.
B
So
the
portal
enhanced
public
engagement
in
2019
before
the
portal's
development,
charleston
city
council
received
319
comments
in
person
and
by
phone
and
from
april
2020
to
february
2022
council
received
2810
engagements,
and
that
was
a
combination
of
all
the
ways
that
folks
could
could
give
us
their
comments
and
their
input
since
we
added
the
portal.
So
we
were
recognized
for
for
for
that
and
given
this
award
so
wanted
to
share
that
with
council.
B
Thank
the
municipal
association.
They
really
are
a
great
resource
to
us
and
to
towns
and
cities
across
the
state,
and
their
theme
this
year
by
the
way,
was
civility
of
promoting
the
fact
that
we
can
disagree
sometimes
but
still
be
agreeable,
and
I
like
to
think
we
practice
that
here
in
this
chamber,
but
it's
something
we
need
to
continue
always
to
work
on
and
to
show
civility
respect
and
and
solutions.
B
They
asked
all
the
public
officials
from
throughout
the
state
of
south
carolina
to
take
this
pledge
this
past
friday,
when,
when
they
had
the
represent
representatives
from
all
over
the
state
of
south
carolina
and
I'll,
read
you
the
pledge,
I
think
it's
worthy
to
pledge
to
do.
I
pledge
to
build
a
stronger
and
more
prosperous
community
by
advocating
for
civil
engagement,
respecting
others
and
their
viewpoints
and
finding
solutions
for
the
betterment
of
my
city
or
town.
B
So
that's
a
very
noteworthy
goal
for
the
municipal
association,
all
the
towns
and
cities
to
build
more
civic
engagement.
That
was
what,
in
essence,
we
got
our
award
for
to
respect
others
and
find
solutions
for
the
betterment
of
of
all.
So
that's
the
good
work.
That's
going
on
with
our
municipal
association,
and
I
want
to
share
that
all
right
next
on
the
agenda
is
our
public
hearings.
I
think
mr
christopher
morgan
will
lead
us
through
those
we
have
just
five
of
those
this
evening.
B
C
G
B
Did
we
want
to
make
any
presentation
about
the
matter
first,
other
than
what
I
just
stated.
This
is
regarding
a
2022
justice
assistance
grant
fund.
We
submitted
an
application
in
the
amount
of
forty,
two
thousand
nine
hundred
and
eighty
dollars
it's
for
purchase
of
software,
which
combines
data
stored
in
the
police
department,
records
management
system
and
and
helped
with
investigations.
J
A
complaint
was
filed
in
2009
2021
regarding
the
use
of
someone's
name,
the
sharing
of
someone,
and
if
you
share
the
person's
name,
they
should
have
the
ability
to
foia
their
name
and
under
sled
sled
provides
to
you
only
to
only
the
sheriff
police
department,
the
attorney
general.
They
only
can
receive
complaints,
direct
direct
citizens.
Complaints
can
be
done
to
the
department
of
justice.
J
Well,
if
the
city
of
charleston
is
a
grantee
under
state
of
south
carolina,
the
federal
government
and
state
government
works
together
to
block
that
complaint
and
even
can
retaliate
against
a
person
and
and
and
and
and
they
can
make
them
a
law,
breaker
and
use
force
on
them,
so
that
that's
happened
in
this
state
where
the
federal
government
state
gun
works
together,
because
across
the
street
at
80
broad
8180,
broad
street
85
rosary
they've
got
over.
Maybe
200
people
have
been
in
conspiracy
investigations
with
no
camera.
J
Now,
there's
a
person
that
complained
about
the
conditions
in
the
charleston
county
jail.
Two
weeks
later,
two
people
had
a
fatal
incident
in
charlton
county
jail.
I
was
there
I
watched
it.
I
saw
it
so
these
grants
are
very
important
in
terms
of
the
first
amendment,
the
fourth
amendment,
the
sixth
amendment
and
the
eighth
amendment.
B
B
C
I
I
I
There
currently
is
an
older
structure
as
part
of
the
property
and
then
the
newer
carroll
building.
That's
the
very
corner,
their
development.
There's
a
development
team.
That's
looking
at
a
new
concept
on
the
property
that
would
involve
mixed
use
when
we
pulled
up
our
maps
to
look
at
what
heights
were
on
the
property.
I
What
you
see
in
front
of
you
is
what
was
there.
This
was
part
of
the
issue
with
transfer
from
old
paper
maps
to
digital
maps
over
the
last
10
20
years.
It
wasn't
exactly
in
line
with
the
way
it
should
have
been.
So
that's
why
you
see
the
city
listed
as
the
applicant,
because
we're
essentially
correcting
some
of
what
was
going
on
here.
I
Here
is
a
bleak
image
that
shows
it.
You
all
know
the
building.
Of
course
the
oh,
yes,
yes,
yes,
sir
and
historic
charleston
foundation
does
own
an
easement
on
the
entire
property
anything
vertical
on
the
property.
Anything
that's
built,
the
use
of
it
all
that,
so
they
will
be
monitoring
future
uses
on
the
site
as
well.
Here
they
have
not
really
taken
a
position
on
this
request
because
they
have
the
power
through
their
easement
over
the
property.
I
Their
the
historic
structure
is
to
the
far
left.
It's
a
two-story
structure
that
was
incorporated
into
the
carroll
building,
and
here
you
are
looking
at
it
towards
the
west
and
you
can
see
how
there's
a
four-story
district
across
the
street.
So
it's
not
uncommon
to
have
four
story
here
on
east
bay.
Looking
to
the
north,
there's
a
four-story
district
across
the
street
there
as
well,
and
the
planning
commission
did
review
it
and
recommended
approval.
6-0.
B
J
Under
your
under
administrative
procedure,
act
south
carolina
under
procedure
and
your
mission
and
vision
is
public.
Health.
Homeland
security
provides
the
civil
liberties
and
civil
rights
complaints
in
terms
of
fema.
So
the
question
becomes
we
having
issues
with
flooding
in
the
area?
Should
you
consider,
I
don't
care
how
you
vote
for
the
the
applicant?
That's
his
right.
I
Number
three:
okay
e3:
this
is
a
request
to
rezone
property,
that
is
on
travis
lane
in
the
honey
hill
area
of
the
canhoy
peninsula.
The
subject
property
is
shown
in
yellow
on
this
image.
Here
it's
immediately
adjacent
to
the
cane
hawaii
development
pud,
that
is
in
the
pink
color
on
most
of
the
map
there.
It's
off
of
clements,
ferry
road,
so
clements
ferry
road
is
in
the
bottom
left
corner
of
the
property
of
the
map.
Here
before
you,
the
request
is
to
rezone
from
the
sr1
classification
to
the
diverse
residential
dr9
classification.
I
The
property
is
currently
undeveloped.
The
plan
is
for
a
development
on
it
with
a
little
bit
smaller
lots
on
that
portion,
that
is
up
towards
the
clements
ferry
road
side
of
the
property,
and
then
the
wetland
areas
would
remain
unfilled
in
their
natural
state,
and
the
planning
commission
did
recommend
approval
7-0
for
this.
J
Again,
it's
almost
like
a
protest
here,
I
think,
from
june
to
november.
You
should
not
have
any
zoning
coming
before
the
body,
because
the
fema
map
may
be,
you
know
adjusted.
Secondly,
in
terms
of,
I
made
my
public
confident
to
the
city
regarding
redistricting
and
the
puds
and
annexations
and
infill
developments,
and
all
this
have
led
to
some
level
of
dilution.
In
my
opinion,
now
shelby
county
and
alabama
versus
holder
has
taken
deemed
certain
aspects
of
the
voting
rights
act.
K
G
K
So,
basically,
I'm
on
the
ownership
side
of
this,
and
I
just
wanted
to
present
myself,
because
I
always
feel
that
it's
it's
good
to
be
able
to
put
a
face
with
the
name.
So
we
appreciate
having
the
opportunity
to
present
this
zoning
of
this
property
understanding
that
it
is
within
the
comp
plan,
we're
glad
to
be
here
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you.
However,
we
can
so.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
L
B
This
you
signed
up
for
it.
It's
a
re-zoning
of
a
property
out
on
travis
lane
out
in
the
cane
hope,
kane
hoy
area.
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
Anyone
else
like
to
be
heard
on
this
matter
all
right,
seeing
none
that
comes
to
counsel.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
any
discussion
comments.
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
the
eyes
have
it.
I
This
is
an
amendment
to
a
planned
unit:
development
in
this
area,
the
barrie
halsey
pud
in
harrelson
village,
by
rezoning
property
located
at
65,
berry
street.
It's
about
two
tenths
of
an
acre
from
single
family
sr2
to
the
pud
and
increasing
the
maximum
number
of
dwelling
units
allowed
in
the
pud
by
two.
So
the
pud
is
the
area
in
pink
pinkish
purple
towards
the
middle
of
the
bottom
of
the
screen
there
and
then
the
subject
property
that
would
be
added
to
it
is
outlined
in
green.
I
I
This
is
just
some
of
the
history
of
the
pud
here
they
have
had
endorsement
by
the
hoa
of
the
pud,
and
I
don't
know
if
somebody
from
the
applicant
team
is
here
tonight
to
talk
to
that.
But
the
subject
property
is
shown
here
with
the
garage
entrance
on
the
right
there
and
then
the
the
hud
itself
is
on
the
left
and
then
the
same
images
trees
that
that
screen
that
existing
building
and
then,
where
the
new
lots
would
be
formed
there.
I
The
two
new
lots
would
be
formed
where
the
existing
one
lot
was,
and
then
there's
one
additional
lot
that
was
already
planned
as
part
of
the
pud.
So
it
is
two
new
lots
as
part
of
the
pud
edition
and
just
the
benefits
that
were
discussed
with
the
hoa
and
the
hoa's
letter
of
endorsement,
and
here
is
just
an
image
of
the
subject:
property
that
would
be
added
and
that's
the
existing
pub
to
the
south
of
that
subject.
B
I
And
this
is
a
recent
annexation
in
the
riverland
terrace
neighborhood,
it's
2157
fort
pemberton
drive,
it
was
a
r4
in
charleston
county
and
the
closest
compatible
district
in
the
city
is
our
sr1,
so
the
recommended
zoning
would
be
sr1
here.
It's
in
our
suburban
recommended
land
use
from
the
comp
plan
and
sr1
fits
in
that
and
here's
an
image
of
the
property
and
planning
commission
recommended
approval
for
this.
G
B
All
right
anyone
else
thing
done.
It
comes
to
counsel.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
in
a
second
any
questions
comments
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
the
eyes
have
it
next
up
is
our
approval
of
city
council
minutes.
We
have
both
of
these.
Madam
clerk,
the
may
17
special
meeting
and
june
21st
meeting
any
additions,
deletions,
corrections,
hearing
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
so
next
up
is
our
citizens
participation
period?
Thank
you
all
for
coming
out
sharing
with
us.
J
Thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
jennifer
she's
done
a
great
job,
doing
the
pandemic
and
her
mr
clerk
staff
and
they've
done
an
outstanding
job,
and
particularly
dealing
with
me
but
but
but
for
the
most
part
I
want
to.
You
know,
want
to
thank
bobby
mitchell
keith
waring,
thank
god.
Keith
marion
father
brought
wes
ashley
into
the
city,
because
the
redistricting
would
have
been
horrible,
but
we
did
our
level
best
as
a
community.
I
was
young,
very
proud,
coming
to
council
and
seeing
six
african-american
council
members
based
upon
what
I
can
see.
J
That's
not
going
to
be
what
my
my
my
my
family
have
seen,
but
they
they
did
their
level
best.
They
were
great
people,
they
all
were
they
cared
about
the
community,
but
a
lot
of
dynamics.
I
wrote
my
public
comment
to
mention.
Let
them
know
how
I
felt
about
this:
the
annexations,
the
puzzles,
the
redlining
insurance
redlining.
You
had
nothing
to
do
with
that.
That
was
that's.
You
know,
that's
just
the
way
it
is
for
us
and
so
unfortunately,
look
out
for
those
that's
left
behind
and
that's
all
I
can
tell
you.
J
G
Good
evening
this
is
the
seventh
month
july.
It's
on
just
like
it's
the
july
and
it's
the
seventh
month
and
it's
the
month
that
we
signed
our
constitution
and
our
former
founding
father.
They
did
a
wonderful
job.
They
found
something
to
put
it
into
office,
and
we
are
here
today,
as
one
of
the
judge
said
earlier,
that
we're
a
little
behind
time
and
trying
to
get
the
justice
that
is
due.
G
Place
we
have
on
chambliss
street
chamberlain
street
the
old
slave
market.
That
says
we
want
it
to
be
named
just
a
slave
market,
but
the
enslavement
market.
These
people
didn't
go
there
willingly.
They
were
forced
into
that.
So
we
asking
the
mayor
and
the
city
council
and
all
civilized
people
to
do
the
historical
thing
and
don't
be
hypocritical
and
put
the
right
kind
of
name
on
that
building
to
show
that
the
people
weren't
willingly.
C
B
A
He
adds
it
may
seem
ironic
in
a
way
to
some
people,
but
that
adds
to
the
beauty
of
our
pursuing
this
and
doing
it
here.
We
wholeheartedly
agree,
which
is
exactly
why
we
continue
to
call
on
the
city
to
recognize
the
gaston
creek
issue
for
what
it
is,
an
issue
of
race
and
reconciliation,
the
spot
elevation
of
gaston
green
homes,
a
predominantly
black
community,
is
less
than
five
feet
above
mean
above
sea
level,
nichols
chapel,
ame
church,
a
community
place
of
worship
is
even
lower
than
that.
A
A
C
C
C
C
So
why
would
the
city
proceed
with
a
project
that
violates
its
own
plan
to
alleviate
flooding?
We
don't
know,
but
we
do
know
that,
because
this
is
charleston
a
city
with
a
long
and
distinguished
history
of
what
some
would
call
stubbornness
and
others
tenacity,
we
will
continue
to
urge
council
to
reconsider
these
plans.
C
L
West
edge
next
phase
is
along
a
low
lying
area.
Hey
good
avenue,
one
of
the
lowest
it'll
concentrate
on
constructing
even
more
hotels
and
apartments
that
are
unaffordable
to
a
workforce,
population,
additional
office
space
and
parking
all
elevated,
an
abundance
of
concrete,
paving
over
nearly
four
acres
of
the
earth's
natural
drainage
systems
found
in
gadgets
and
creek
and
the
surrounding
wetlands.
L
If
the
flooding
solution
proposed
by
west
edge
involves
spring
fish
born
fish
burn
strain
storm
water,
drainage
project,
we
have
doubts.
Why
keep
chasing
more
complicated
fixes
when
we
have
a
natural
buffer?
That's
right
there.
I
find
it
ironic
that
west
edge
in
their
sales
pitch
they
tout
cutting
edge
lab
space,
but
their
approach
practically
and
simultaneously
denies
environmental
science
and
hydrology.
N
So
as
you
consider
this
plan,
that's
been
put
forth
and
has
been
custom
discussed
for
a
long
time.
I'm
sure
I
would
advocate-
and
I
would
ask
that
you
can
support
it.
This
is
something
that
has
to
do
with
a
matter
of
safety.
You
know
there's
two
ways
of
telling
time
one
is
chronos,
one
is
chirops
and
kairos
is
a
moment
of
time
that
we
can't
contemplate
that
we
couldn't
imagine
for
ourselves,
but
just
comes
together
through
god's
grace
and
through
hard
work
of
individuals.
N
G
I'm
patterson
smith-
I
am,
I
am
the
vice
president
of
the
corporation,
that
of
second
presbyterian
church,
the
owner
of
the
real
estate,
and
so
I'm
here
to
make
a
report
that
the
corporation
has
reviewed
the
the
the
draft
of
the
agreement.
That
is
a
three-way
agreement
between
the
city
of
charleston,
the
the
mr
dewberry
and
his
foundation
and
second
presbyterian
church,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
the
corporation
supports
that
and
commends
that
to
the
city
of
charleston
and
we
hope
for
your
support
as
well.
Thank
you.
K
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
council
members,
I
too
am
here
on
the
executive
session
matter
of
the
dewberry
settlement.
We
were
last
here
in
april
and
at
that
time
the
neighborhood
association
had
presented
a
memo
to
council,
with
certain
conditions
and
council
authorized
attorney
council
to
proceed
with
drafting
a
settlement
agreement
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
I've
worked
with
julia
and
maggie
lee
and
we
have
folded
in
the
recommendations
of
the
neighborhood
association
memo,
which
was
a
condition
of
that
instruction.
K
Also,
there
was
another
gap.
There
was
not
a
binding
written
agreement
for
the
repair
of
the
wall
that
has
been
done,
that's
also
been
signed
delivered
and
the
city
has
a
right
of
enforcement,
so
it's
basically
guaranteed.
I
too
ask
you
to
take
advantage
of
this
opportunity
that
litigation
has
run
its
course.
The
city
is
won
both
in
principle
and
law,
and
it's
time
we
work
together.
K
M
O
I'm
john
paul
hugoley,
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
of
the
zeke
bregsboro.
I've
lived
just
directly
behind
the
dewberry,
and
now
I
live
just
around
the
corner
on
charlotte
street
and
the
second
house
over.
I
cannot
say
enough
great
things
about
when
we're
looking
at
development
and
we're
watching
what
goes
into
our
city
from
architecture.
To
the
way
you
run
something
to
me,
the
do
better
be
a
an
excellent
model.
O
O
It's
time
to
move
forward
in
our
city
to
work
well
with
those
who
are
doing
a
good
job
and
push
them
to
do
a
little
bit
better.
So
this
whole
law
suit
and
settlement
that
trim
just
talked
about
trinum
and
the
city
council
got
our
recommendations
from
the
committee
that
were
voted
on
by
the
board
and
they
agreed
to
keep
them
in
the
the
actual
agreement.
So
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
I'm
in
full
support
and
hope
that
other
hotels
could
run
as
efficiently
as
the
dewberry
thanks.
G
But
I
need
to
draw
a
straight
line
from
that
dynamic
to
the
way
the
council
is
making
decisions
today
by
prioritizing
those
who
would
have
done
the
dropping
off
over
those
who
would
have
been
beaten
while
there
and
the
king
street
bid
is
just
one
example
of
that,
and
I
know
that
it's
already
been
approved,
and
I
know
that
compromises
have
to
be
made
with
the.
If
shall
I
say,
tourism,
mafia,
and
I
would
like
to
propose
just
two
simple
modifications
that
will
mitigate
against
major
risk.
G
One
do
not
allow
the
3.5
million
ambassador
program
to
be
included
in
this.
That
is
a
human
pest
control
program
that
will
shoe
off
of
the
street.
Anyone
that
isn't
good
for
business
and
two,
please
do
not
allow
funding
from
anything
outside
of
the
property
owner
input
that
will
create
a
financial
juggernaut
of
a
monster
that
will
be
well
beyond
your
control
and
you
won't
be
able
to
control
later.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
H
H
It
I've
gone
through
months
of
hurdles
trying
to
start
this
transportation
business.
I
just
list
a
few:
a
bar
meeting
citizen
participation,
getting
a
neighborhood
association
on
board
insurance,
bikes,
just
the
works,
and
it
seems
difficult
and
unreal
reasonable
to
believe
that
the
council
would
rubber
stamp
carbs
polluting
traffic
congestive
cars
at
every
opportunity
and
not
provide
a
basic
framework.
A
Hello,
this
is
tamika
gadsden.
I
am
a
resident
of
west
ashley
in
charleston,
I'm
calling-
or
rather
I'm
calling
in
to
submit
comment
regarding
the
king
street
pig
and
most
notably,
I
just
want
to
just
want
to
make
known
that
I
observe
my
elected
officials.
I
observe
council
members
engage
with
the
public
in
a
way.
That's
somewhat
disconcerting
and
like
it
has
been
mentioned
in
previous
comment.
We'd
really
like
for
you
guys
to
really
pay
attention
to
your
constituency
that
comes
before
you.
A
I
understand
that
perhaps
other
interests
captivate
you
more,
but
our
input
matters,
and
especially
our
input
regarding
the
bid
and
the
gadsden
creek,
but
specifically
with
the
bid.
I'm
asking
that
that
city
council
make
sure
to
contain
the
parameters
around
the
bid
and
that
we
do
not
create
an
entirely
new
system
run
by
non-profits
and
millionaires
backing
that
non-profit
that
we
rely
upon
our
government
are
duly
affected.
Excuse
me,
our
duly
elected
officials,
to
do
their
job
in
making
our
streets
safer.
A
If
there
are
any
concerns
regarding
access
to
commercial
spaces,
public
safety,
that's
why
we
elected
you
all.
It's
your
job
to
do
this,
not
some
sort
of
secret
vest
wearing
collective
of
folks
who
are
turning
charleston
into
a
private
property.
I
also
want
to
lift
up
the
comments
shared
earlier
by
joel
sadler,
an
esteemed
business
owner
here
in
charleston.
His
piece
on
medium
about
the
bid
is
something
you
all
should
read,
and
I
really
want
you.
I
really
want
to
urge.
C
And
we
did
receive
some
comments.
Online
one
person
hand
delivered
a
public
comment
regarding
the
charleston
city
council
redistricting
plan.
They
said
the
1965
voting
rights
did
not
factor
in
local
land
use
policies
based
upon
banking
and
insurance
companies.
The
justice
department
was
to
ensure
the
district
was
truly
race,
neutral,
based
on
established
policies
and
practices.
C
The
federal
government
failed
and
congress
must
make
policies
clear.
Based
upon
the
maps,
the
6th
congressional
district
had
lost
85
000
85
000
residents
based
upon
past
concerns.
One
person
said
there
was
no
legal,
irrational
basis
to
keep
brampton
and
fairway
drive
closed.
The
city
attorney
stated
the
roads
were
to
be
temporary
temporarily
closed,
not
permanently.
C
C
One
person
said
the
restoration
of
gaston
creek,
and
the
surrounding
wetlands
was
critical
for
flood
mitigation
filling
in
the
creek
and
covering
it
did
not
follow
the
science
and
the
city
had
a
history
of
neglect
towards
the
citizens.
On
the
west
side
it
had
forced
homeowners
out
and
stalled.
The
landfill
and
forgot
about
the
needs
of
the
residents
developers
were
being
allowed
to
take
one
of
the
peninsula's
last
remaining
tidal
creeks.
All
of
the
development
was
funded
by
a
tip
which
took
money
out
of
local
schools.
C
C
One
person
said
they
objected
to
the
bid
because
it
would
be
detrimental
to
the
downtown
community
and
that
bids
caused
the
leasing
of
the
homeless
and
could
cause
greater
gentrification
in
charleston.
They
also
said
charleston
needed
to
protect
local
small
businesses
and
protect
all
of
their
citizens.
C
One
person
opposed
the
king
street
bid
and
said
they
ruined
neighborhoods.
They
said
there
was
evidence
of
the
process
that
was
adopted
in
canada,
which
showed
it
empowered
the
powerful
and
took
away
local
control
from
the
citizens
that
cared
about
the
city.
They
also
said
there
was
a
better
way
to
improve
the
city.
One
person
said
they
opposed
the
implementation
of
a
bid
because
it
did
not
facilitate
because
it
not
only
facilitated
delocalization
but
also
forced
exclusion
of
marginalized
people.
C
Bits
gave
too
much
power
for
a
few
people
without
transparency
and
accountability
and
destroyed
diversity
within
the
community.
One
person
said
they
were
disappointed.
The
city
prioritized
developers
and
upper
income
citizens
over
marginalized
citizens.
Organizations
in
charleston
had
legislation,
legislation
which
limited
their
first
amendment
rights.
They
said
the
city
was
in
need
of
affordable
housing,
but
they
allowed
developers
to
pay
a
fine
instead
of
requiring
them
to
build
a
certain
percentage
of
affordable
units.
C
The
city
never
funded
the
effort
or
accepted
the
findings
of
the
racial
conciliation
commission
and
changed
it
to
a
commission
that
wasn't
able
to
affect
real
change.
They
stated
that
when
businesses
wanted
to
start
a
bid
on
king
street,
the
city
passed
it
with
little
to
no
research
and
the
city
was
not
focused
on
the
interest
of
regular
citizens
and
those
are
all
the
comments
we
received.
B
Affairs
commission
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
next
up,
I'm
going
to
call
on
eric
boleman,
I
believe,
is
going
to
come
forward
and
share
with
us
an
update
on
our
sumar
street
development
and
he
may
have
an
assist
from
jonathan
oakman,
with
landmark
enterprises
area.
M
I
was
last
year
in
may
to
show
you
the
visual
update,
so
this
is
going
to
be
kind
of
the
same
overall
view.
However,
it
has
advanced
a
little
bit
since
then.
We've
been
working
very
diligently
to
address
the
comments
from
both
the
design
review
board,
as
well
as
the
community
members
around
west
ashley.
M
To
reorient
you
a
little
bit.
The
sumar
street
redevelopment
parcel
is
the
two
and
a
half
acre
triangle
that
is
between
sam
rittenburg,
boulevard
and
old
town,
road
samuranberg
boulevard
on
the
left
side
of
this
image.
Here
with
this,
that's
my
place
already,
the
project
will
contain
about
4
800
square
foot
assembly
space
area,
along
with
7
800
square
feet
of
city
offices.
M
Those
would
be
located
at
the
tip
portion
in
between
the
two
roads.
Further
down
would
be
a
private
sector
investment
with
landmark
enterprises
they
would
be
they
would
get
out
of
this
8
thousand
square
feet
of
restaurant
three
thousand
square
feet
of
retail
and
another
eight
thousand
square
feet
of
private
leasable
office
space.
M
What
we're
doing
at
this
location
we've
also
put
the
challenge
to
them
to
accomplish
the
charleston
rises
criteria,
so
it'll
be
a
charleston
rise,
certified
project
when
it
is
a
complex
when
it
is
done.
We've
also
had
some
of
the
most
extensive
public
input
for
a
project
of
this
caliber
we've
hosted.
M
So
at
this
point
we
have
a
lot
of
small
community
rooms
at
our
parks
and
rec
buildings,
mostly
cinder
block
painted
rough
interior.
What
this
would
be
doing
is
actually
creating
a
location
that
would
could
be
used
by
city
staff,
as
well
as
public
people
to
come
in
and
use
conference
room
board
room
and
then,
of
course,
that
4
000
square
foot,
flex,
assembly
area
and,
in
addition,
I'll
get
to
this
in
a
second
or
two-
is
the
inspiring
redevelopment
along
sam
rittenberg
boulevard.
M
M
I
wanted
to
touch
on
this
really
quickly
to
just
really
kind
of
give
a
size
comparison
for
this,
because,
especially
when
you
look
at
the
location,
it's
hard
to
see
what
is
what
we're
talking
about
out
there
that
large
square
in
the
middle
there.
That
would
be
the
4
000
square
foot
flex
assembly
auditorium
space
to
give
you
an
idea
of
its
size,
we're
currently
in
about
1800
square
feet
from
window
to
window.
M
So
it
would
basically
be
a
public
publicly
owned
and
operated
auditorium
flexible.
So
that
means
we
could
have
city
council
meetings
such
as
this.
We
could
have
spolado
events
in
there.
We
could
be
having
small
conferences
come
in,
it's
something
that
we
don't
really
have
around
here
and
to
give
you
another
comparison,
town
of
mount
pleasant
when
they
redid
their
council
chambers,
upped
it
to
3
200
square
feet
and,
I
believe,
charleston
county
for
their
public
meeting.
M
Some
of
the
innovative
stuff
that
we're
going
for
at
this
location
is
subsurface
parking.
So
what
this
is
allowing
us
to
do
by
putting
the
majority
of
the
surface
of
of
the
parking
underground
is,
we
are
allowing
it
to
become
a
much
more
compact
and
vibrant
location,
so
at
current
this
is
the
configuration
that
I
believe
landmark.
Leolio
and
their
engineering
consultants
have
landed
upon.
It
would
allow
for
180
subsurface
spaces
and
64
on
the
surface,
with
additional
parking
along
sumar
street
itself.
Also.
M
M
So
this
would
be
the
main
entry
view
for
for
coming
in
from
sumar
street,
so
majority
of
people
coming
to
this
location
would
be
arriving
by
vehicles.
So
this
is
what
they
would
be
turning
into
for
the
site,
and
you
can
there
we
go.
You
can
see
the
underground
parking
there
to
the
left
and
then
the
regular
field
parking
would
be
to
the
right
that
would
actually
that
building
there
is
the
office
structure,
so
that
would
have
two
two
and
a
half
stories
of
offices.
M
Once
you
get
onto
site,
you
would
see
storm
water
worked
into
every
component
that
you're
viewing.
So,
for
example,
this
is
the
plaza
that
would
be
along
sumar
street,
containing
rain
gardens
and
local
vegetation
again
trying
to
achieve
some
of
that
charleston
rises,
which
says
that
we
need
to
not
just
put
our
storm
water
away
out
of
sight.
We
actually
want
to
celebrate
it
and
show
it
off
and
show
how
we're
dealing
with
it.
M
So
and
then,
once
you
walk
through
the
site,
you
would
come
to
this
area.
This
is
actually
a
10
000
square
foot,
outdoor
public
gathering
location.
It
would
have
about
2500
square
feet
in
the
lawn,
and
the
remainder
of
that
10
000
square
feet
would
be
paved
a
location
that
you
could
have
post.
As
you
can
see
in
the
image
here,
you
would
have
tables
and
chairs
you
can
host
music
nights.
You
can
also
host
piccolo
spelato
events
outside
some
of
the
other
activities
that
landmark
is
proposing.
M
So
what
we
did
was
really
break
up.
How
strong
the
horizontals
were.
So
we
have
newer
taller
verticals.
That
would
be
having
high
detail
of
woods
and
then
having
some
different
handrails
and
really
trying
to
just
work
in
a
care
of
material
and
detail
throughout,
and
this,
of
course,
would
be
the
welcoming
location
for
both
west
ashley
and
the
city
of
charleston
when
you're
coming
in
this
is
at
a
location
that
connects
to
I-26
along
with
cosgrove
north
charleston
coming
in
from
the
airport.
M
M
So
the
next
steps
are
going
to
be
we'll
be
at
the
trc
on
august.
4Th
at
that,
we're
going
to
be
reviewing
the
site
plans
and
other
engineering
work
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
line
with
city
codes
and
all
that
well
technical
items.
After
that,
we
will
be
then
able
to
turn
it
back
over
to
leolio
who's
gonna,
go
through
with
their
construction
development,
team
and
start
doing
the
contract
or
not
contract
construction
estimates
in
terms
of
what
it
will
cost
to
build
this
complex.
M
We
have
been
working
with
our
city,
corporate
council
and
landmark
legal
representation
to
develop
a
development
agreement,
a
ground
lease
and
a
commercial
lease.
Those
are
all
set
and
ready
for
those
construction
estimates
to
be
put
into
it,
and
then
we
can
start
entering
into
the
actual
negotiation.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
all
for
allowing
us
a
second
extension
of
the
mou.
That's
going
to
give
us
some
padding
in
there.
So
we
can
let
the
construction
team
really
look
at
the
materials
and
figure
out
at
a
more
detailed
pace.
N
F
M
So
what
is
going
to
be
occurring
is
a
public
private
partnership
with
this,
where
there
will
be
a
cost-sharing
measure
to
it.
So
we
are
not
going
to
fund
and
construct
the
entire
project.
Neither
is
the
private
sector
going
to
fund
and
construct
the
entire
project.
So
that's
where
some
of
the
development
agreement
and
ground
leasing
comes
into
play
is
figuring
out
kind
of
who's
paying
for
what
and
how
we're
going
to
navigate
through
that.
B
E
So
eric
thank
you
for
that
wonderful
presentation
and
for
landmark
for
the
continuing
cooperation
and
work
with
us
on
this
project.
As
you
can
tell.
Well,
maybe
you
can't,
but
I
certainly
can't
do
all
the
different
models
that
we've
seen
on
this
project.
The
changes
that
we've
gone
through
to
make
this
a
top
quality
project
for
the
city
of
charleston,
and
it
just
can't
be
understated
what
we're
doing
here
with
our
footprint.
E
This
is
going
to
be
a
major
public
facility
for
the
public
to
have
access
to
eric
has
talked
about
the
auditorium
component
of
this,
where
we
can
have
city,
council
meetings
or
other
public
oriented
meetings
can
be
held
there.
Also,
it's
going
to
afford
an
opportunity
for
our
neighborhood
associations
and
other
non-profit
organizations
to
meet
where
they're
scrambling
now
to
meet
in
a
different
location.
E
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
major
major
asset
to
the
community
and
it's
going
to
be
a
welcoming
site,
the
birthplace
of
charleston
birthplace
of
south
carolina
eric,
said
this
rather
quickly.
But
the
one
other
thing
that
we
just
need
to
take
recognition
of
is
that
this
project
is
already
spurring
activity
along
ashley
landy.
E
I
met
with
eric
and
some
other
folks
this
morning
as
to
some
discussions
of
what's
taking
place
behind
this
building
behind
this
project,
and
we
can
see
the
fruits
of
this
project
being
very
positive
in
helping
to
revitalize
all
of
which
actually
so.
This
is
something
that
the
city
should
be
very
proud
of
on
our
work
and
our
efforts
to
moving
this
thing
along
and
and
the
positive
impact
it's
going
to
have
on
the
entire
west
ashley
project
for
revitalization.
M
B
P
Just
keep
in
mind,
the
city
has
done
a
number
of
private
public
partnership.
Very
successful.
The
gill
yard,
the
142
million
dollar
gear
yard
project
was
a
50-50
part
public-private
partnership.
The
international
african-american
museum
was
a
public-private
partnership,
25
million
came
from
government,
I'm
sorry,
25
million
came
from
local
government,
25
million
came
from
the
state
and
the
balance
came
frankly
nationally,
in
some
cases
international
the
tennis
center,
the
wonderful
partnership
between
mr
always,
I
don't
want
to
mispronounce
his
name
navarro
in
the
city
of
charleston.
P
He
put
in
excess
of
private
side,
put
an
excess
of
40
million
dollars
into
so
I'm
looking
for
excitement
to
see
how
much
this
private
sector
is
going
to
come
and
put
in
on
this
one.
I'm
really
waiting
on
this
one.
It's
been
waiting
five
to
almost
six
years,
I'm
waiting
on
it.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
B
You,
sir,
all
right
any
other
questions
comments.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Eric
looks
like
great
progress
being
made,
and
please
thank
jonathan
or
I
see
jonathan
online
and
the
leolio
design
team,
particularly
for
being
attentive
to
all
the
public
and
city
comments
that
we've
been
making
along
the
way.
I
really
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
B
Right
so
next
up
is
a
matter
regarding
the
king
street
business
improvement
district.
Now
this
is
separate
from
the
mou
that
was
on
our
ways
and
means
committee.
This
is
the
matter
regarding
the
objections
that
were
made
and
I'm
going
to
ask
both
robert
summerfield
and
maybe
our
outside
counsel,
jeremy
cook
jeremy
here
to
come
forward
and
maybe
give
us
a
brief
summary
again
of
where
we
are
with
this
particular
item
and
then
we'll
allow
council
to
make
any
questions
or
comments.
G
Good
evening,
mayor
members
of
council,
so,
as
you
said
mayor,
this
is
separate
from
the
mou
or
moa
discussion.
This
is
just
council
making
decision
on
the
hearing
of
objections
that
was
held
a
few
meetings
ago,
staff
after
hearing
those
objections
reviewing
the
written
materials
that
we
received
did
not
find
that
any
of
the
objections
were
contrary
to
the
ordinance
that
you
passed
and
so
staff
has
recommended
that
none
of
the
objections
be
upheld
and
that
we
continue
forward.
B
B
B
Q
I
would
like
to
hear
about
the
task
force
that
was
created,
I
think,
prior
to
my
coming
on
council,
there
was
a
task
force
created.
I
don't
know
what
the
recommendations
were.
I've
received
several
calls
from
constituents
over
the
past
two
years
about
buildings
that
are
close
to
them.
They
call
livability.
Mr
riccio
comes
out
ms
johnson
gets
involved.
Q
It
seems,
like
things
just
get
nowhere,
so
I
guess
my
question
and
request
would
be
for
the
task
force
to
provide
those
recommendations
and
then
having
a
discussion
at
community
development
about
what
additional
supports
they
need
to
get
some
of
these
buildings
remedied.
Some
are
on
heirs
property,
it's
not
all
of
them.
Some
are
just
absentee
landlords.
Q
D
D
They
all
have
these
jurisdictions
that
we
as
a
city
can't
even
do
anything
about
once
they
come
and
say
you
can't
tear
it
down.
You
can't
do
this.
You
can't
do
that,
so
the
people
can't
do
it
because
they
can't
afford
it.
In
the
city
of
charleston,
the
bar
have
more
power
than
the
city
of
charleston
city
council
members.
Have
we
can't
even
do
anything?
The
br
have
stopped.
That's
from
doing
a
lot
of
things
we
wanted
to
do
when
even
tearing
goings
down
changing
windows
and
buildings.
D
We
couldn't
even
do
it,
so
this
is
a
big
problem
that
we're
going
to
have.
So
I
don't
know
what
it's
going
to
be
really
the
solution
to
it,
because
we
were
dealing
with
a
long
time,
even
different
council.
We
have
here
now
we
still
was
dealing
with
this
trying
to
look
at
these
house
properties
that
was
in
the
community.
D
So
that's
how
we
got
some
rid
of
some
of
the
properties
on
the
east
side
during
that
time,
and
all
this
was
trying
to
get
some
of
these
properties
that
was
falling
down
in
the
in
the
in
the
community
where
people
are
complaining
about
and
trying
to
get
rid
of
the
city
stock.
But
now
a
lot
of
these
other
properties
are
owned
by
private
individuals
and
they
can't
afford
to
fix
it
because
to
be
or
have
a
stipulation
to
it.
J
D
D
It's
a
bar.
You
can
have
a
beam
in
there.
That's
historical
and
they'll.
Stop
you
from
tearing
it
down.
I
I
just
don't
understand
it.
Remember
one
time
I
don't
know
mayor
if
you
was
here
during
that
time,
I
told
him.
I
would
get
a
bull
book
bulldozer
and
tear
all
of
them
down.
He
went
all
of
them
down,
everybody
said:
well,
you
can't
do
that
cosplay
like
that's
what
I
would
do,
but
I'd
rather
have
a
clear
land
there
and
have
a
house
falling
down.
D
R
R
I
fully
support
bringing
this
up
at
a
future
community
development
committee
meeting,
because
every
time
I
see
one
of
these
structures
I
think
of
affordable
housing
that
doesn't
exist
where
these
structures
are,
I
think,
of
generational
wealth,
that's
locked
out
from
being
realized
by
bears
property
folks
that
may
own
that
structure
and
their
inability
to
develop
it
and
reap
the
value
in
that
property.
Due
to
these
regulations,
and
it's
a
major
major
city
problem,
we've
got
to
address
and
council
member
mitchell's
comment.
R
The
ba
the
bar
exists
as
long
as
we
say
it
exists
at
city
council,
we're
in
charge
of
the
bar
we're
in
charge
of
what
they
do,
we're
in
charge
of
what
they
don't
do
right
now,
they're
they
have
a
lot
of
power.
It's
always
up
for
review.
I've
got
a
lot
of
respect
for
the
bar.
I've
got
a
lot
of
respect
for
historic
preservation.
R
I
mean
these
are
all
things
that
should
be
periodically
evaluated
and
assessed,
and
if
we,
as
a
council,
think
the
bar
has
too
much
authority,
we
can
roll
it
back.
That's
our
job,
it's
not
right,
it's
not
correct
to
sit
back
and
just
say:
that's
just
the
bar:
that's
that's
what
they've
been
doing
for
all
these
years.
I
mean
we're
in
charge
of
that
oversight,
and
so
I
applaud
councilman
saccharin
for
bringing
this
forward.
R
G
P
P
One
of
the
gateways
coming
into
the
peninsula
is
getting
unattractive
by
the
day
and
you
come
in
on
cannon
street,
where
the
wendy's
once
was
you
see
graffiti,
where
the
bagel
shop
was.
I
think
you
used
to
be
kentucky
fried
chicken
prior
to
that
you
got
building
tagged
and
where
the
hearties
is,
I
thought
that
was
a
temporary,
maybe
use
permit.
P
B
I
did
want
to
make
a
suggestion
myself
and
that's
to
review
of
something
that
I'm
aware
that
the
city
did
some
decades
ago
when
I
was
a
staff
person
at
the
city,
and
I
got
to
share
with
you
at
that
point.
This
was
in
the
mid
to
late
90s.
There
weren't
hundreds
of
dilapidated
structures
in
the
city.
There
were
thousands
of
them
then,
and
so
we
have
a
much
more
manageable
number
to
tell
you
the
truth
now
than
we
did
back
then.
B
But
what
mayor
riley
set
up
and
I
served
on
what
was
known
as
the
code
enforcement
board
and
from
what
I
understand
that
the
framework
for
that
board
still
exists
in
city
ordinance
and
and
so
what
we
had
was
a
single
staff
member.
His
name
was
john
foster.
He
was
great
and
his
sole
job
was
to
bird
dog,
dilapidated
structures
and
who
the
owners
were
and
try
to
help
them.
B
So
I
I
can
be
happy,
of
course,
I'm
a
member
of
the
cd
committee
to
to
share
more
of
that
when
we
convene,
but
I
I
believe,
there's
a
good
model
in
place.
I
don't
know
when
mayor
riley
quit
using
that
board.
It
was
some
time
after
I
left
around
2000,
but
it
really
worked
for
a
while.
Now
don't
get
me
wrong,
there's
some
cases
where
the
property
is
just
going
to
pot
and
and
the
property
owner
really
doesn't
care,
or
maybe
they
can't
afford
it.
B
But
legally
you
know
we
can
do
that
you,
you
can't
force
somebody
who
owns
a
piece
of
private
property,
you
know
other
than
the
basic
securing
the
property
and
by
using
this
demolition
by
neglect
I
mean
you
can't
force
somebody
to
make
a
place
completely
habitable
and
all
like
that
so
or
maybe
we
could
we'd
have
to
form
some
new
ordinances
to
make
that
possible.
But
a
good
starting
point.
I
don't
mean
to
ramble
a
good
starting
point
might
be
to
go
back
and
re
reactivate
with
some
modifications
as
code
enforcement
board.
N
Q
Q
At
some
point,
many
of
these
houses
do
exhibit
that,
and
the
second
thing
I
want
to
just
talk
about
is
this
is
not
specifically
on
bar,
but
I
want
to
make
it
clear
for,
for
those
that
are
listening,
the
issues
buck
bar
north
of
line
street.
That's
coming
back
to
cd
at
some
point
soon,
and
I
appreciate
the
work
on
that,
but
b.a.r
to
councilman
apollo's
point:
we
give
them
the
power
it's
bestowed
upon
them.
They
are
not
elected.
Q
I
answer
to
my
constituents
not
to
some
quasi
board,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
they're
aware
of
that,
so
we're
going
to
have
this
discussion
at
cd
regarding
var
north
of
line
street
we're
going
to
have
this
discussion
around
bar
with
some
of
these
abandoned
buildings.
We
got
to
put
people
first.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
N
But
for
b.a.r
we
would
not
be
the
city
that
we
are
now.
I
just
don't
think
that
we
need
to
take
that,
don't
take
it
too
lightly.
I
think
it's
the
bar
that
has
protected
the
integrity
and
the
historical
nature
of
this
city.
I
don't
want
us
to
take
it
lightly
because,
but
for
them,
I
don't
think
that
we
would
be
what
we
are
now.
I
can
remember
a
discussion
with
mayor
summing
where
he
was
making
fun
that
we
had
a
bar.
N
B
As
always,
there's
a
balancing
act-
yes,
we
have
the
oldest
preservation
ordinance
in
america
in
america
and
it's
made
a
difference
for
the
preservation
of
our
city.
I
know
that
councilman
saccharin
appreciates
all
that,
so
we
gotta
we'll
find
out
we'll
find
that
balance
beam
as
always
councilmember
warren.
P
One
last
thing:
all
of
those
are
good
conversations
and
actually,
both
of
you
all
are
right.
Basically,
when
you
talk
about
going
on
the
north
part
of
town,
councilman
sagan,
but
the
the
back
to
spring
street
those
aren't.
Those
are
that's
right.
That's
not
bar!
That's
not
is
property.
Those
are
investors.
P
P
B
You,
sir,
and
and
I
was
going
to
point
out
earlier-
I
think
some
of
the
issues
you
raise
about
spring
street
are
different
issues
that
that
can
be
addressed
differently
and
one
of
my
pet
peeves
is
when
a
property
is
is
being
planned
for
redevelopment
like
there's
a
bar-approved
new
building
to
go
on
the
wendy's
site
and
it'll
be
torn
down
when
that
finally
happens,
but
that's
no
excuse
for
the
property
owner
not
to
follow
code
enforcement
regulations
until
he's
ready
to
start
construction.
He
can't
just
let
the
weeds
grow.
B
K
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor
committee
on
traffic
and
transportation
met
yesterday
at
2
pm
and
we
finished
in
a
little
over
an
hour.
We
had
two
limo
applications
that
the
committee
did
approve
unanimously,
and
then
we
moved
into
executive
session
to
receive
legal
advice
related
to
contract
discussions
for
the
provision
of
electric
vehicle
charging
stations.
G
P
P
S
Mr
chairman
was
at
the
phase
three
item
you
were
looking
for,
so
the
the
phase
three
item
was
a
change
order
on
the
low
battery
project.
This
is
related
to
basically
expansive
grouts
of
polyurethane
grout
that
we
inject
into
the
the
pilot,
the
pilot
casings,
in
order
to
fill
voids
under
the
surface
of
the
battery.
S
S
Unfortunately,
the
current
phase
has
more
void
space
under
the
wall
than
the
previous
two
phases.
Had
it's
not
unusual.
We
do
see
changing
construction
methodologies
and
some
changing
storm
damage
as
we
move
down
the
battery,
so
we're
we're
estimating,
where
we're
about
halfway
through
the
battery
we're
estimating
about
the
current
phase,
pressing
about
twice
the
amount
of
ground
for
the
current
phase
per
foot
of
wall.
As
we
had
on
the
previous
two
phases,
we
think
that'll
be
a
little
bit
high,
but
that's
what
the
change
order
request
is
for
again.
S
S
The
current
phase
is
going
very,
very
well,
it's
actually
going
smoother
at
this
point
than
the
previous
two
phases.
The
contractors
have
worked
out
a
really
nice
sequencing
of
how
they
form
the
rebar
versus
for
the
wall,
where
they
have
almost
no
breaks
in
the
construction
process.
So
it's
it's
actually
on
time
on
budget
going
really
well
as
a
phase,
despite
the
difficult
logistics
in
the
year.
B
P
B
B
P
I
had
several
questions
after
the
workshop
and
I've
gotten
answers
on
them
number
one.
There
was
quite
a
debate
on
whether
it
was
a
fee
or
attack
it's
a
fee.
It
is
a
fee.
Okay,
unanimous
right.
It's
a
feat,
yes,
sir.
The
second
thing
is:
does
government
pay
any
of
this?
In
other
words,
will
this
be
be
assessed
to
the
city
on
any
city-owned
property
or
any
county-owned
properties?
P
P
Now
again,
I
think
the
thinking
is
that
the
price
and
his
team
feels
that
that's
not
in
the
ordinance.
What
I'd
like.
I
sent
several
questions
and
I
got
answers
back
and
it
was
kind
of
like
a
couple
of
them
or
maybe,
if
it's
not
assessed,
then
it's
not
going
to
be
charged,
but
this
is
our
agreement.
This
is
our
ordinance.
We
should
have
that
written
in
at
those
exclusions
out
there,
and
let
me
tell
you
why
I
would
hate
for
the
county
to
get
a
bill
for
a
hundred
dollars
and
I'll.
P
Tell
you
why?
Because
we
do,
we
just
had
mr
ron
mitchum
in
him
it's
glorious.
When
you
have
multiple
government
organizations
having
a
hand
in
glove
relationship,
I
would
not
want
the
county
to
get
a
bill.
Thinking
wait
a
minute
we're
going
to
get
a
bill,
and
the
city
said
nothing
to
us
about
that
directly
or
indirectly.
P
So
I
guess
I'm
a
I'm
not
asking
for
an
answer
tonight,
because
I'm
gonna
vote
for
approval
on
this
there's
too
much
goodwill
in
this
room
with
mr
price.
His
legal
counsel.
Our
council
here,
wouldn't
want
any
religious
organization
to
get
a
bill,
st
matthews,
which
is
right
across
from
lutheran
church.
I
think
I
have
the
right
name
right
across
from
the
bennett
hotel.
P
P
P
The
body
of
work
that
we
do
tonight
should
protect.
A
group
like
that
from
having
a
fee,
so
nonprofit
should
be
exempted.
Government
should
be
exempted,
the
city,
the
county,
if
you
say
why
we
aren't
the
problem.
If,
if
we
have
a
something
ugly
and
distasteful
and
product,
we
have
a
public
works
department
that
we
can
dispatch
people
and
get
it
taken
care
of.
So
it
is
the
county.
P
I
I
truly
believe
nonprofits,
not
the
problems.
Churches
aren't
the
problem.
So
why
not
have
it
memorialize
in
writing
that
whether
they
are
the
county,
assessors
or
not,
and
our
agreement?
We
not
that
fee
is
not
going
to
be
assessed
to
a
non-profit,
and
the
last
thing
I
have
is
a
micro
company
that
property
owners,
people
who
have
been
there
in
excess
of
50
years,
and
I
I
don't
think
it's
that
many,
but
I'm
familiar
with
one
that
it's
african-american-owned
property.
P
That's
been
there
since
the
days
of
jim
crow,
they
don't
have
triple
net
leases.
They
have
mom-and-pop
quick,
stop.
I
guess
I'm
gonna
just
call
it
that
I
don't
know
name
of
jesus,
but
it'd
be
great
if
they
had
triple
net
leases,
they're
working
with
the
city
right
now
to
put
affordable
housing.
I
think
on
the
second
and
third
floor:
redlining
does
it
exist
today?
B
So
if
you're,
depending
on
the
use
of
the
property
of
government,
property,
nonprofits
and
church
properties,
if
they're
used
for
those
purposes,
they're
not
assessed
they're,
not
paying
any
property
taxes
and
hence
they
wouldn't
be
assessed
any
fee
under
this
mou
and
this
overall
agreement.
So
so,
where
the
only
case
I
know
of
where
that
a
little
nuance
is,
if
it
happens
at
a
non-profit,
owns
the
property
but
rents
it
out
as
a
commercial
use.
B
B
P
B
I
just
thought
it
that
explanation
would
be
good
all
right,
any
other
comments
or
questions
all
right
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
thank
thank
y'all,
very
much
and
chris
and
ellis
and
doug.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
your
work
on
all
this.
Okay.
Next
up
is
our
bills
for
second
reading.
I
believe
we
have
a
deferral
request
from
the
applicant
on
number.
C
B
B
We
have
a
motion
to
defer
number
nine
third
third
reading,
okay,
third
reading
of
one
through
eight
and
number
ten,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
you
guys
have
it
now.
Can
I
entertain
a
notion
that
we
defer
number
nine
so
move
all
right,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
next
we
have
our
builds
up.
The
first
reading.
B
We
need
to
change
the
address
of
our
designated
thermometers.
Does
anybody
want
to
uncover
this,
or
can
I
dan
riccio
is
here?
If
anybody
has
a
question
about
it,
it's
just.
We
got
a
motion
to
approve
in
a
second
okay,
any
discussion
or
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
who's,
the
honest
habit,
and
so
next
up
is
executive
session.
Regarding
a
proposed
settlement
with
the
regarding
the
dewberry
hotel,
we
have
a
motion
to
go
into
executive
session
in
a
second
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye.