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Joint City Council and Planning Commission Workshop: Comprehensive Plan 6/30/21
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C
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B
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A
E
A
A
We
just
need
to
take
that
little
thinking,
time
a
little
low
pause
and
and
and
assess
where
we're
going
where
we
come
from
and
and
what's
important
and
and
the
fact
that
y'all
recognize
the
importance
of
our
relationship
with
the
water,
with
protecting
our
city,
long
term
from
sea
level
rise
and
extreme
weather.
The
fact
that
you
recognize
the
critical
nature
of
affordable
housing
for
the
future
of
this
city
and
and
issues
of
equity
as
well.
A
I
I
think
it's
a
remarkable
effort
and
and
job
that's
that
we're
going
to
hear
about
today.
I
I
commend
you
also
for
the
going
the
extra
mile
during
a
pandemic
to
really
increase
public
engagement,
albeit
virtually
mostly,
but
that
that
that
was
a
remarkable
effort
to
make
that
happen
so
before
I
turn
it
over
to
our
our
planning
director
robert.
I
would,
mr
chairman,
chairman
carrich,
if
you
have
any
remarks
on
on
behalf
of
the
planning
commission,
since
this
is
a
joint
meeting
of
our
two
bodies,.
D
Thank
you,
mayor
teckenberg,
and
I
too
want
to
thank
the
commission
members.
They
spent
a
lot
of
extra
time
because
it
was
so
important.
We
wanted
to
get
it
right
and
we
had
some
extra
meetings
and
a
lot
of
feedback,
and
it
was
all
good
for
the
plan,
but
I
particularly
wanted
to
thank
the
staff,
mr
morgan
and
everyone
on
staff,
because
they
spent
so
much
time
the
hours
weeks
months
of
putting
this
together.
D
F
F
What
I
want
to
emphasize
with
this
plan
is
this
is
not
just
the
every
10-year
update,
as
required
by
statute.
As
the
mayor
mentioned,
this
is
a
complete
rethinking
of
the
future
of
the
city
of
charleston.
The
approach
that
this
team
has
taken.
As
the
mayor
mentioned,
the
the
very
concept
of
addressing
land
use
and
future
development
based
on
sea
level
rise
and
the
impacts
of
uncertain
weather
conditions
caused
by
climate
change.
F
F
This
is
again
coming
into
it
here
at
the
tail
end,
one
of
the
things
that
excited
me
about
coming
here
was
this
forward
kind
of
thought:
that's
gone
into
this
plan
and
that
will
take
this
community.
I
think
into
a
much
better
position
in
place
over
the
next
decade
and
further
again,
just
can't
emphasize
it
enough.
This.
This
plan
is
also
a
testament
to
the
the
times
in
which
it
was
written.
F
I
think
the
attention
the
community
has
already
had
already
been
dealing
with
the
ramifications
of
not
paying
close
enough
attention
to
underrepresented
communities,
but
then
that
responsiveness
within
this
plan
to
equity
and
social
injustice
that's
been
highlighted
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
two
years
that
has
gone
into
this
plan
that
is
different
than
what
has
come
before
it
not
just
locally,
but
even
nationally
in
in
comp
planning
efforts.
So
I
want
to
commend
the
team.
I
want
to
commend
the
community.
F
So
with
that,
I
also
wanted
to
spend
just
a
moment
giving
a
special
thanks
to
our
consulting
team.
Christopher
will
go
into
thanking
our
staff,
which
is
tremendous
for
a
plan
like
this
to
have
five,
essentially
five
staff
members
working
on
it
is
just
an
unbelievable
lift
and
what
they've
accomplished
is
tremendous,
but
I
also
wanted
to
take
just
a
few
moments
and
thank
our
consultant
team
that
has
worked
on
this
plan
with
us
and
with
the
team.
F
Additionally,
I
should
say
we
do
have
members
of
the
consultant
teams
on
this
call
today,
so
that
when
we
get
through
the
presentation,
if
there
are
any
questions
or
any
asks
that
any
member
of
the
city
council
or
the
planning
commission
may
have
for
them,
that
they
can
help
provide
some
additional
background
and
information
on.
I
also
want
to
thank
community
data
platforms
who
helped
us
with
the
housing
analysis.
F
F
I
want
to
do
a
special
shout
out
to
mary
mac
wilson,
who,
even
as
she
is
in
the
hospital
in
the
maternity
ward,
giving
birth
to
who
her
her
new
beautiful
baby
boy
has
been
communicating
with
the
team
and
helping
them
get
some
of
the
last
minute
edits
in
that
are
part
of
the
draft
that
you
all
have
before
you.
Additionally,
because,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
this
plan
takes
a
a
different
approach
than
past
plans.
F
This
effort
also
reached
out
to
an
area
of
the
community
that
has
not
necessarily
been
outreached
to
in
previous
efforts,
which
is
the
hispanic
community
in
the
in
the
latin
american
community,
with
efforts
to
provide
materials
and
outreach
in
spanish
as
well.
So
I
also
want
to
thank
artpot
for
the
spanish
language
outreach
that
they
did
as
well
as
zolta
language,
justice
cooperative
for
some
of
their
translation
and
interpretation.
F
So
real,
quick,
the
folks
that
are
on
the
line
with
us
from
wagner
and
ball.
We
have
andy
sternod
who
helped
with
the
effort,
as
I
mentioned,
on
on
the
water.
Additionally,
we
have
dale
morris
recently
of
the
water
institute
of
the
gulf
and
and
now
our
next
chief
resiliency
officer
with
community
solutions.
We
have
anjanae
davis
and
eric
jackson
with
a
cisco
group.
We
have
the
tica,
I'm
going
to
get
it
right,
tatika
robinson
and
then
with
civic
communications.
We
have
julie,
hussey
and
then.
F
Finally,
with
community
data
platform,
we
have
anna
tap
and
remy
beveridge,
and
so
we
have
those
additional
resources
for
the
discussion.
Should
anyone
have
questions
after
christopher
has
gone
through
the
presentation
with
that,
mr
mayor
members
of
the
council
and
planning
commission,
I
will
hand
the
presentation
over
to
mr
morgan,
so
he
can
walk
us
through
the
plan
and
set
it
up
for
the
workshop
discussion.
G
G
Where's
my
full
screen
there
we
go.
Are
you
all
seeing
logo
and
city
map,
and
my
cursor
now?
Is
that
on
there
all
right?
So
this
is
the
cover
of
the
plan
and,
of
course,
it's
our
new
2021
city
plan,
otherwise
known
commonly
as
our
comprehensive
plan
we
had
to
cover.
You
don't
see
the
entire
cover
here,
but
the
idea
is
to
show
all
elements
of
the
city.
All
parts
of
the
city
are
big
five
areas
of
the
city,
as
as
robert
has
already
outlined.
G
Some
of
these
we
have
more
emphasis
on
than
others,
based
on
how
our
planning
operation
and
our
city
government
work
in
charleston,
but
the
elements
that
we
have
are
population,
natural
resources,
cultural
resources,
economic
development,
transportation,
community
facilities
and
priority
investment,
and
then
housing,
land
use
and,
finally,
the
new
sections
of
resilience,
and
we
have
added
in
equity
into
the
document,
and
we
wrap
up
with
that.
So
that
is
what
we
will
be
going
through
today,
I'm
happy
to
be
fairly
informal
as
we
go
through.
G
H
I
H
G
So
this
is
primarily
the
way
it
functions
in
our
city.
Government
is.
This
is
primarily
a
land
use
plan
and
also
a
kind
of
growth
of
the
city
plan.
The
state
does
require
that
we
look
at
community
facilities
and
that
would
include
public
safety
facilities
like
the
physical
facilities
and
things
like
that,
but
it
doesn't
really
get
into
how
those
entities
of
the
city
government
operate.
You
know
their
overall
operation.
I
would
think
that
that
would
typically
be
a
different
type
of
document.
G
You
know
I'm
not
aware
of
other
plans
in
south
carolina.
Maybe
there
are
some
other
ones
across
the
country
that
deal
with
how
police
departments
function
on
the
ground.
Typically,
it's
more
about
where
the
facilities
are.
You
know
where
my
new
facilities
might
be
needed.
Things
like
that.
What's
the
growth
of
the
community
that
could
inform
the
police
department
about
future
resources,
they
might
need
things
like
that.
H
G
H
No,
no,
no,
no!
I'm
not
talking
about
functions.
Okay,
I'm
talking
about
a
comprehensive
plan,
that's
using
an
equity
lens
in
order
to
prepare
it
and
to
to
implement
it.
We
won't
we.
I
don't
want
to
belabor
it
it's
just
that
you
know
I
see
as
a
a
major
part
of
any
comprehensive
plan
that
is
being
done
through
an
equity
lens,
okay,
as
defined
in
this
document.
Okay,
somehow,
okay
should
talk
about
how
we're
going
to
do
things
to
to
to
foster
greater
and
better
relationships
with
our
public
safety
department.
H
G
A
Councilmember
gregory,
if
I
may
respond,
I
I
think
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
equity
was
added
to
this
last
section
and
resilience
and
equity
and
and
just
looking
on
the
recommendations
in
that
part
of
the
plan
is
to
work.
Number
two
is
to
work
with
other
city
departments
to
implement
recommendations
from
the
special
commission
on
equity,
inclusion
and
racial
consent,
conciliation
that
would
not
only
include
police
department
but
really
all
city
departments.
So
I
I
guess
maybe
it's.
H
Yeah
I
did
I
did.
I
did
see
that
and
that
did
give
me
some
relief,
because
once
those
recommendations
are
completed,
council
will
have
to
decide
whether
or
not
they
become
a
part
of
action
items
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
I
did
see
that
cross-reference
and
that
did
give
me
some
solace
that
okay,
we
will
not
only
get
to
to
policing
but
we'll
also
get
to
education
and
some
of
the
other
components
of
the
commission's
report.
Thank
you,
mayor
great.
A
G
G
The
plan
also
incorporates
and
will
incorporate
in
one
instance,
existing
plans
and
soon
to
be
adopted,
plans
that
have
relationship
to
the
categories
that
this
plan
covers.
First
and
foremost,
is
the
one
charleston
parks
and
recreation
master
plan
which
is
going
to
be
presented
to
you
all
very
shortly
and
would
be
adopted.
G
The
dutch
dialogues
report
from
2019,
which
again
underpins
a
lot
of
the
land,
use
and
water
recommendations
in
this
report.
The
sea
level
rise
strategy
from
2019,
the
citywide
transportation
plan
for
2018,
the
people
pedal
plan
from
2018
plan,
west
ashley
and
some
other
studies
and
and
documents
that
we
use
on
a
regular
basis
in
this
office
and
throughout
the
city
organization.
G
H
H
A
G
A
G
A
G
G
We
had
over
58
events
as
part
of
this,
including
virtual
and
in-person,
towards
the
end
of
the
process
we
had.
30
percent
of
our
participants
had
never
participated
in
a
planning
conversation.
Previously,
I
know
from
having
been
through
two
other
comprehensive
plans,
processes
at
the
city
that
this
was
by
far
the
greatest
number
of
folks.
We've
had
participated
in
a
comprehensive
plan
too
again,
despite
the
fact
that
we
were
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic.
G
We
had
a
thousand
residents
and
stakeholders
that
participated
in
schedule
activities
so
overall,
when
you
add
up
all
these
and
the
the
looks
and
links
on
our
website
in
reference
to
this,
over
17
000
people
were
engaged
with
content
shared
on
the
plan
website,
city
plan,
youtube,
playlist,
community
solutions,
consulting
facebook
page
and
the
spanish
speaking
facebook
page
too.
So
a
lot
of
engagement
here
and
again
for
the
first
time
ever
engagement
with
the
spanish
speaking
community
and
the
first
time
we've
ever
had
bilingual
planning
discussions
and
meetings.
G
So
moving
into
the
the
actual
bulk
of
the
plan.
Here
I'm
going
to
hit
the
highlights
in
each
section
I'm
going
to
try
to
go
through
this
fairly
quickly
and
you
know
slow
down
when
there
are
areas
or
questions
things
like
that,
but
in
the
population
area
of
course,
charleston
is
part
of
a
much
greater
tri-county
region.
G
We
show
where
our
plan
area
is
on
the
graphic
to
the
left
here,
and
we
show
the
fact
that
charleston,
you
know
I
know
everybody
feels
like
charleston-
is
growing
so
rapidly
and
we're
growing
at
about
a
14
percent
clip
between
2010
and
2019.
But
that
pales
in
comparison
to
how
fast
mount
pleasant
has
grown.
In
the
same
time,
period
of
33
percent
or
even
a
smaller
town
like
hanahan,
which
has
grown
almost
50
percent,
and
the
growth
in
charleston
has
primarily
been
from
in
migration.
G
Our
change
in
population
area
not
surprising
to
most
of
you
but
john's
island
has
the
greatest
growth
in
growing
between
90
and
120,
between
2010
and
2019,
and
then
daniel
island,
king
hoy,
growing
between
60
and
90.
In
that
time
period
we
have
our
estimated
population
change
by
area
from
2010
to
2019
and
again
this
is
our
best
guess
on
our
information
that
we
have
from
the
last
census.
G
Of
course,
our
tree
regulations
have
strengthened
in
that
time,
but
we're
still
losing
you
know
some
trees
to
development
and
there's
some
strategies
in
the
document
and
some
things
we
can
do
with
zoning
and
other
codes
to
hopefully
limit
this
a
little
bit
more
and
also
work
for
new
tree
planting.
When
new
developments
go
in.
G
Moving
on
to
our
cultural
resources,
section
of
the
plan,
one
of
the
most
significant
things
in
that
section
is
for
the
first
time
ever
we
are
documenting
in
a
city
planning
document
where
our
historic
african-american
settlement,
communities
and
neighborhoods
are-
and
this
is
an
overall
map
of
these-
there
still
needs
to
be
a
lot
more
research
in
these
areas.
This
is
just
kind
of
scratching
the
surface.
G
We
need
to
do
more
research
on
how
this
particular
settlement
area
that
a
you
know,
land
use
decision
might
be
happening
here,
relates
to
that
particular
area
and
any
change
that's
going
on
or
any
feelings
of
the
community
about.
You
know
wanting
to
stay
a
certain
way
or
wanting
to
progress
in
a
certain
way.
So
it's
just
pointing
out
the
need
for
more
study
for
more
in-depth
analysis
within
these
areas,
and
it's
you
will
see
them
also
on
the
land
use
maps.
We
just
wanted
to
show
them
all
here.
G
We
have
about
56
different
named
areas,
a
lot
of
them
in
the
downtown
a
lot
of
them
on
james
island,
but
we're
really
proud
that
we
were
able
to
get
these
pulled
together,
huge
debt
of
gratitude
to
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
historic
resources
community,
also
to
donna
jacobs
from
our
own
planning
commission
who
helped
a
lot
with
this.
So
this
is
a
real
achievement.
G
I
think
in
this
document
and
you'll
again
see
these
echoed
in
our
more
detailed
land
use
maps
in
a
few
minutes
so
into
economic
development
and
some
of
the
key
highlights
in
this
section.
Of
course,
we
have
to
look
at
the
existing
situation
in
the
city
for
economic
development.
Things
like
the
key
employers.
Of
course,
medical
university
of
south
carolina
is
still
our
key
employer,
13
000
jobs
in
the
city.
Again,
this
is
just
the
city
of
charleston
boundaries.
This
is
not
into
you
know,
other
parts
of
the
region.
G
It's
interesting
to
note
that
in
our
region,
I'm
going
to
shift
here
a
little
bit
in
our
region.
Job
creation
has
really
been
great
in
the
food
and
culinary
areas
which
saw
an
increase
from
2013
to
2018
of
6
800
jobs.
Second,
only
well,
the
second
category
being
construction,
trade
workers
and
then
back
office
workers.
The
top
four
job
creators
have
been
construction,
trade
with
400
4100,
new
jobs,
food
and
beverage,
already
described
research
and
management
and
back
office.
G
A
regional
cost
of
living
comparison
shows
again
something
that
probably
not
a
lot
in
the
a
lot
of
folks
are
surprised
by
in
the
charleston
region
that
we
are
a
fairly
costly
city
and
region
to
live
in
our
composite
index
when
compared
with
these
eight
other
southeastern
cities,
including
washington
dc,
is
that
we
are
ranked
number
two
as
far
as
the
cost
of
living
in
these
nine
different
areas.
Second,
only
to
washington
dc
and
in
particular,
housing
is
expensive,
as
no
surprise
to
everybody.
G
Utilities
are
fairly
expensive
and
even
grocery
items,
for
whatever
reason,
are
slightly
more
expensive
here
than
some
other
areas.
But
the
housing
is
a
big
factor
here
again,
second,
only
to
washington,
d.c
and
part
of
the
reason
that
we're
having
the
housing
issues
that
we
are
that
we're
going
to
go
into
in
just
a
minute.
G
It's
about
how
expensive
these
items
are
in
the
different
areas,
and
they
have
a
set
of
you
know
like
in
a
grocery
store.
What
similar
items
are
that
they
buy
in
one
grocery
store
in
charleston
versus
one
in
dc
or
one
in
charlotte.
That
kind
of
thing
and
it's
interesting
grocery
items
are
pretty
close
together,
but
then
you
get
housing
and
there's
huge
disparities
from
you
know:
myrtle
beach
to
the
dc
area.
B
G
I
Yeah
I
can
yeah,
I
can
help,
so
this
comes
directly
from
the
2020
adopted
budget
and
I
I
believe
the
the
way
the
index
works
is
that
100
would
be
a
average
baseline
for
comparison.
So
I
think
it's
pulling
from
all
these
cities
and
coming
up
with
this
index
as
a
way
to
compare
across
different
cities,
so
100
being
a
baseline
below
that
would
be
below
average
and
above
that
would
be
above
average.
But
I'm
not
exactly
sure.
I
G
G
It's
relying
on
previous
plans
that
have
been
in
place
and
working
very
well
for
our
community,
such
as
the
walk
bike,
bcd
plan,
the
rethink
folly,
road
plan,
the
charleston
county
people
to
parks,
our
design,
division
report
on
people
pedal
and
our
plan,
west
ashley
and
then
finally,
and
most
importantly,
the
citywide
transportation
plan
from
2018..
So
these
are
all
kind
of
folded
into
the
transportation
section
in
this
document,
and
these
are
some
of
the
projects
that
are
underway
and
funded
in
our
region.
G
Perhaps
the
biggest
and
newest
and
and
most
significant
for
a
lot
of
land
use
implications
are,
is
the
low
country
rapid
transit
corridor,
which
is
funding
through
the
half
cent
sales
tax,
that
charleston
county
has
and
they're
going
for
federal
funding
right
now
that,
hopefully,
will
be
awarded
and
we'll
get
this
project
under
construction
that
goes
through
the
center
of
our
region,
into
downtown
charleston,
down,
meeting
streets
and
calhoun
and
through
the
west
edge
area
and
medical
district?
So
that's
a
very
significant
new
transportation
development
for
our
region.
G
We
also
have
the
clemence
ferry
road
widening
a
portion
of
which
is
complete,
a
portion
of
which
is
underway
right
now.
In
the
king
away
area
we
have
the
glenn
mcconnell
parkway
widening,
which
will
soon
be
underway
in
west
ashley.
We
have
the
very
significant
maybank
I
mean
main
road
and
savannah
highway
intersection
improvements
that
carry
all
the
way
on
to
john's
island.
G
G
The
ug
street
and
meeting
station.
The
visitor
center
has
less
opportunity
for
redevelopment
there,
but
that
will
be
a
key
stop
interrelating
with
our
visitor
system
and
transportation,
the
college
of
charleston
station,
then
we
have
medical
district.
Jonathan,
lucas
courtney
drive
at
also
the
medical
district
and
then
line
street
within
the
west
ash
development.
So
those
are
where
the
stations
will
be
for
this
very
innovative
bus,
rapid
transit
system.
G
We
also
have
an
emphasis
in
the
plan
on
looking
at
other
alternatives.
Beyond
just
you
know,
vehicles
and
buses
and
mass
transit
into
commuter
ferry
service
and
how
commuter
ferry
service
could
work
in
some
key
locations
that
could
be
embarkation
or
disembarkation
locations
for
folks
to
utilize,
a
water
taxi
or
ferry
service
that
might
end
up
being
in
some
instances
faster
than
driving
on
regular
roads
that
are
congested
at
peak
hour.
So
we
want
to
see
more
study
done.
G
From
that
standpoint,
we
also
had
studies
within
the
survey
that
looked
at
how
flooding
had
impacted
our
mobility
in
the
charleston
region,
and
we
found
that
of
those
being
surveyed.
The
greatest
response
for
flooding
and
mobility
was
that
people
could
not
get
to
work
or
delayed
getting
to
work
again.
The
chamber
of
commerce
has
done
similar
studies
that
have
shown
that
there
are
huge
impacts
to
our
folks
by
the
flooding
impacting
mobility.
G
So,
jumping
ahead
to
community
facilities
and
priority
investment,
we
included
in
the
document
the
current
capital
improvement
plan
active
projects
from
around
the
city.
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
all
these.
I
think
you
all
know
these
particularly
the
ones
that
are
going
on
in
your
district
from
fire
stations
to
park,
improvements
to
drainage
improvements,
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
the
city
and
a
lot
more
coming,
and
these
are
listed
in
the
document
and
cover
the
whole
range
from
culture
and
recreation
to
health
and
welfare,
public
service
and
urban
community
development.
G
Now
getting
into
the
housing
section
of
the
plan,
which
was
a
key
area
of
emphasis,
we
thought
it
was
important
for
folks
to
take
a
look
at
the
comparison
of
our
jurisdiction
with
other
jurisdictions
in
the
southeast
or
really
across
the
country
in
some
instances.
As
far
as
the
number
of
new
units
that
are
being
approved-
and
this
is
as
a
percentage
of
existing
housing
stock
and
that's
for
the
years
2014
to
2019.
G
so
greenville
is
producing
almost
3.25
percent
of
its
existing
housing
stock
over
each
year
in
its
new
construction,
durham
is
up
over
two
and
a
half
percent.
Charleston
is
less
than
two
percent,
so
behind
some
of
those
southeastern
areas.
But
we
are
ahead
of
some
of
the
smaller
areas
in
the
southeast,
like
georgia,
like
savannah
georgia
or
asheville
north
carolina,
but
it
shows
that
we
aren't
getting
as
many
housing
units
produced
here
as,
as
might
be
helpful,
to
meet
the
demand
in
the
market.
G
B
Is
this
by
coincidence
that
the
the
size,
the
population
I'm
looking
at
west
ashley?
For
instance,
I
think
the
number
of
projected
in
population
about
60
000
in
downtowns
like
40
000.,
so
this
is
right
around
10
percent.
Is
that,
just
by
coincidence,
that
the
number
of
units
is
4,
800
and
6300
for
west
ashley.
G
K
So
christopher,
if
you
don't
mind,
I've
got
a
question
to
kind
of
follow
up
on
councilman
shades
question.
You
know
I
I
read
through
the
draft
comp
plan
this
past
weekend,
and
one
of
the
statistics-
that's
in
there
really
jumps
out
at
me
is,
is
that
we've
got
approximately
40,
000
or
so
people
that
live
on
the
peninsula.
K
That
number
was
70
000
in
the
30s
for
the
40s,
in
other
words,
the
peninsula's
population
has
gone
down
dramatically
over
the
years.
I
look
at
this
and
I
think
to
myself
we're
missing
a
we're
missing
a
digit
on
the
peninsula,
and
I
wonder
if
how
much
of
this
analysis
is
based
upon
current
sort
of
population
trends
and
how
much
of
this
analysis
is
geared
more
towards
a
policy
decision
of
where
do
we
want
people?
Where
do
we
want
the
density
to
be
which
areas
are
appropriate
for
growth?
K
G
I
think
there's
a
good
forward
quality
to
it,
because
it's
looking
at
the
trends
that
are
occurring
on
the
peninsula,
for
example,
that
we're
getting
you
know
for
the
first
time
ever
we're
seeing
the
peninsula
gaining.
You
know
population
with
new
housing
units
being
produced
there,
so
I
think
we
are
seeing
more
units
built
there.
Is
it
going
to
get
quickly
back
to
where
it
was?
G
You
know,
decades
ago
the
70
000
figure
you're
talking
about
it's
gonna,
take
a
while
for
that
to
happen,
but
it's
definitely
seeing
a
very
good,
healthy
share
of
the
affordable
housing
units
get
underway
and
planned.
I
think
west
ashley,
it's
a
real
function
of
just
the
huge
area.
That's
in
west,
actually,
the
huge
existing
population,
that's
there
that
needs
affordable,
affordable
housing.
That
is
in
some
of
it
at
present,
but
also
the
need
to
keep
that
affordable
and
add
to
it
over
the
next
10
years.
H
G
A
lot
of
them
are
going
to
need
to
be
multi-family.
We're
also
going
to
be
a
huge
increase
and
we're
going
to
get
into
this
in
a
minute
in
this
document,
a
huge
increase
in
what
we
call
the
missing
the
townhouse
type
developments
and
duplexes
and
quarter
flexes
things
like
that.
That
can
create
much
affordability
and
allowing
those
in
more
places
than
they've
been
allowed
in
the
past
under
current
zoning.
L
Christopher
I
just
follow
up
really
quickly.
I
I
think
that
your
projected
number
well,
your
your
numbers
for
the
peninsula
are
high.
I
think
they're
way
high.
I
think
when
the
census
comes
out,
it's
going
to
be
way
less
than
40
000,
because
remember
in
2020,
the
census
included
students,
and
this
time
it
didn't,
because
on
april
1st
students
weren't
in
place,
they
were
not
here.
L
So
I
think
that
the
18
growth
rate
is
probably
not
accurate
and
to
use
just
so
if
we
use
this
as
a
planning
document
going
forward,
there'll
probably
need
to
be
some
adjustments
made
to
that
and
student
housing
is
one
of
the
things
include,
including
affordable
housing
and
student
housing.
We
have
to
look
at
both
of
those.
G
L
The
way
they
did
it
in
2010
was,
if
you
were
here
in
place
and
they
banged
on
your
door.
They
counted
you
right.
Well,
you
know
what
happened
this
year
in
april
of
2010,
there
was
no
one's
door
to
bang
on,
so
I
suspect,
you're
going
to
see
the
peninsula
population
be
flat
from
2010.
I'm
not
sure
that's
accurate
in
reality,
but
that's
what
the
census
data
is
going
to
show.
L
I
don't
know
if
you
all
have
consulted
with
the
college
of
charleston,
but
I
think
it'd
probably
be
a
good
thing
to
do
before
we
set
this
in
stone
to
see
what
plans,
if
any
they
have
for
growth,
both
on
and
off
the
peninsula,
because
you're
going
to
have
to
house
them,
because
I
know
they'd
like
to
grow,
but
they
have
no
budget
to
build
housing,
and
that's
we
had
a
little
meeting
yesterday
about
that
with
with
mandy
and
robert,
so
affordable
housing.
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
think
about
student
housing
as
well.
M
Yes,
this
is
accounts
for
mitchell,
I
think
on
the
affordable
housing
piece.
I
don't.
I
really
don't
see
it
affordable
to
me,
but
that
is
my
opinion
until
how
to
change
this.
The
area
medium
income
guideline,
because
we
talked
about
the
annual
income
about
30
of
the
emi
of
24
000,
and
you
go
wrong
and
check
out
how
many
people
in
the
african-american
community
that
make
100
make
24
000
a
year.
M
M
N
Thank
you,
mr
man.
I
want
to
touch
base
on
something
councilman
pal
said
basically
about
and
I'm
paraphrasing,
but
anyway
encouraging.
He
didn't
use
the
word
encouraging,
but
increasing
population,
I
guess
at
the
city
center.
You
know
part
of
that
has
been
going
on.
I
would
think,
since
the
last
planning
document
in
that
we
go
all
along,
morrison
drive
the
nomo
district,
and
all
of
that
you
know
we
increased
the
height
districts
in
a
number
of
areas
on
the
peninsula.
N
Frankly,
to
encourage
the
growth
that
we're
seeing
today
at
the
center
city,
to
somewhat
I
guess,
somewhat
offset
urban
sprawl.
You
know
we
used
to
have
50
to
55
foot
height
districts,
and
you
know
now
some
of
those
buildings
can
be
10
or
more
stories
tall
in
the
event
of
being
incentivized.
So
that's
a
portion,
that's
taking
place
as
a
matter
of
fact,
when
we
recently
voted
for
a
project
for
courier
square
again
that
height
district
is
something
that
took
place
in
previous
planning
documents
and
approval.
N
You
know
by
the
then
mayor
and
council,
so
I
think
that's
a
continuation,
but
let
me
ask
this:
mr
morgan:
are
there
any?
Obviously,
the
affordable
housing
piece
and
with
council
member
seeking
said
I
served
on
the
board
over
at
the
college
of
charleston
and
believe
it
or
not
one
thing
one
little
misknown
factoid
is
the
students
at
a
small
percentage
of
students
at
the
college
of
charleston
that
are
virtually
homeless
and
living
out
of
cars,
believe
it
or
not.
N
That
was
something
that
it
was
a
kind
of
like
a
slap
in
the
face.
I
didn't
realize
that
is
in
fact
issue
over
at
the
college
of
charleston,
so
I
could
remember
one
of
the
pieces
to
help
solve
that
was
tiny
homes.
You
know
this
concept
of
tiny
houses,
whereas
maybe
that
could
qualify
for
student
housing
as
well.
N
G
N
This
year
was
a
great
example
of
that,
with
the
escalation
of
lumber
prices
going
up
in
excess
of
300,
but
if
it
sits
in
our
approval
process,
you
know
six
months
to
a
year
to
get
approved,
then
all
we're
doing
is
adding
to
the
inflationary
cost
of
affordable
housing.
So,
for
example,
if
the
city
project
had
the
code
1670-
and
you
knew
this
was
a
city
drainage
project-
this
is
a
city,
affordable,
housing
project.
G
N
N
I
actually
think
we
should
come
up
with
a
different
with
a
planning
code
and
I'm
just
using
1670,
because
that's
when
the
chamber,
that's
when
the
city
was
founded,
but
basically
a
zoning
classification
that
when
it
goes
to
trc
everybody
around
that
table,
including
the
engineer
that's
working
on,
it
knows
hey.
This
is
a
high
priority
issue,
because
right
now
we
are
incentivizing
a
city
in
the
previous
documents
over
the
decades
to
build
housing
that
the
people
who
live
here
can't
afford
we're
actually
approving.
N
We
have
approved-
and
I
include
myself
in
that
we
have
approved
subdivisions
and
apartment
complexes
that
that
nobody
in
city
hall
can
afford
to
stay
in.
So
at
what
point
in
time,
do
we
get
some
kind
of
incentivization
or
expedite
the
process
when
we
do
have
a
affordable
project
to
get
through,
in
particular
the
gateway
of
the
trc
process?
N
A
C
Thank
you
mayor,
just
a
quick
question
more
about
just
the
overall
looking
this
from
like
10
000
feet,
and
I
guess
christopher
my
assumption
would
be
I
mean
you
look
at
you
know
greenville
and
durham
and
those
two
regions,
and,
and
you
see
the
significant
improvements
that
they've
made.
My
assumption
is,
as
part
of
the
planning
of
this
document,
the
creation
of
this
document
and
and
how
the
recommendations
were
or
outlined.
Did
we
follow
up
with
them
to
determine?
G
And
we,
our
department
has
not
followed
up
with
them.
However,
we
know
that
local
entities
such
as
the
trident
home
builders,
the
board
of
realtors,
have
been
getting
best
practices
from
other
jurisdictions
and
helping
to
funnel
those
to
us,
and
this
document
is
filled
with
recommendations
for
different
types
of
housing
that
can
be
built
that
can
help
achieve
getting
more
units
to
the
market,
getting
more
units
affordable
units
to
the
market.
C
B
G
I
believe
we
have
a
chart
in
the
document
that
shows
the
housing
generation.
We
have
I'm
turning
to
that
now.
If
anybody
on
my
team
can
get
to
that
faster
than
me,
please
chime
in,
but
let's
see
because
I
know
we've
got
the
chart.
We
actually
show
the
last,
I
believe
10
years
of
affordable
housing
production
and
what
was
done
here.
We
go
affordable,
housing
creation.
This
is
on
page
98.
G
It
looks
like
we've
been
doing,
you
know
in
2020,
50
or
so
units
were
generated.
What
looks
like
more
like
75
or
so
looks
like
about
50
in
2019,
looks
about
like
175
or
so
in
2018
fewer
in
2017
looks
like
about
140
or
so
in
2016.,
so
they're
all
listed
there
for
the
last
10
years.
The
creation
and
preservation
of
affordable
housing
units.
H
When
you
get
a
chance
to
review
the
housing
recommendations
in
the
report,
there
is
a
recommendations
that
we
implement
housing
for
a
fair
charleston
report
within
that
report.
They
analyze
best
practices
and
things
that
work
in
different
cities
and,
in
addition
to
trying
to
fast
track
certain
projects
that
are
our
city
specific.
K
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I'm
I'm
really
trying
my
best
not
to
comment
on
everything
here.
I
I
love
this
discussion.
This
is
about
as
interesting
on
the
topic
as
you
as
you're
going
to
find
around
here,
but
I
want
to
just
flag
something
you
know:
there's
no
city
in
the
state,
that's
doing
a
better
job
of
running
a
housing
and
community
development
department
in
the
city
of
charleston.
K
We're
we're
leading
the
way
in
city
sponsored
city-backed,
city-funded,
city
incentivized,
affordable
housing,
but
when
you're
talking
about
94
units
a
year
or
even
if
we
can
multiply
that
by
10,
there's
no
way,
we
can
do
this
alone
as
a
city
to
funding
these
projects
on
our
own.
It's
too
expensive.
It
doesn't
move
the
needle
enough
in
order
to
truly
get
to
this
16
000
goal
which,
which
you
know,
I
think
you
can
debate
whether
the
numbers
that
are
much
much
higher.
I
tend
to
think
it's
much
much
higher.
K
The
only
way
we
can
get
this
fundamentally
changed
is
is
by
a
thorough,
thorough
retooling
of
our
land
use
regulations.
We
have
to
find
ways
to
allow
more
housing
to
be
built
in
the
appropriate
places.
That's
just
the
end
of
the
at
the
end
of
the
day
solution.
It's
a
supply
and
demand
problem.
We've
got
to
get
more
supply
on
the
market
and
it's
got
to
come
in
all
forms.
K
That's
the
missing
middle
discussion,
but
but
it's
that
data
point
right
there
that
for
all
of
our
hard
work,
all
of
our
effort,
all
of
our
funding,
all
of
our
resources,
there's
only
so
many
affordable
housing
units,
the
city
of
charleston,
can
bring
on
board
we're
a
city
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
not
the
development
industry
right.
We
don't
have
that
same
sort
of
horsepower
and
finances,
and
we
probably
never
will,
but
we'll
continue
to
do
that.
K
It's
important
that
we're
doing
that
city
run
city-sponsored
initiatives,
but
until
we
fix
the
fundamental
economic
problem
at
the
core
of
this
issue,
we
have
a
pricing
problem
in
any
other
market,
whether
you're
selling
tvs
cars,
computers,
you
name,
you
name
it.
If
there
is
a
pricing
problem,
you
have
to
find
what's
wrong
with
that
and
why
there's
a
supply
and
demand
distortion,
we
have
to
find
ways
to
get
more
supply
on
the
market.
There
are
70
000
people
on
the
peninsula
in
the
30s
or
40s,
there's,
maybe
40
000.
K
Here
today
there
could
be
250
000
people
on
the
peninsula.
There's
no
reason
why
it
couldn't
you
look
at
peninsulas.
You
look
at
cities
around
the
world.
You
can
handle
populations
like
that.
There's
ways
to
do
it
and
that's
a
that's
a
wild
example,
but
it
goes
to
show
you
know.
That's
what
you're
gonna
have
to
have
on
some
level
on
the
supply
side
to
get
the
numbers
where
they,
where
they
need
to
be.
The
city
cannot
solve
the
affordable
housing
crisis
on
its
own.
K
G
Okay,
all
right,
I'm
going
to
move
along.
This
is
the
graphic
about
missing
middle.
Just
so
folks
understand
the
types
of
housing
we're
talking
about
we're
doing
great
in
our
region,
with
the
mid-rise
and
and
our
detached
single-family
houses,
but
more
of
the
duplexes
or
the
cottage
courts
or
townhouses
triplexes
things
like
that,
and
this
is
again
some
of
the
national
best
practices
that
that
are
discussed
in
the
document
as
well.
G
So
one
of
the
things
our
planning
commission
was
very
interested
in
discussing
in
this
document
was
there
in
all
our
meetings
every
once
in
a
while.
You
would
have
folks
that
brought
up
the
idea
of
a
no
growth
approach
like
why
are
we
encouraging
any
growth
in
the
city
and
so
because
the
planning
commission
shared
a
lot
of
the
same
concerns
that
you
as
council
members
have
been
sharing
just
now
about
you
know,
alarmed
at
the
housing
situation,
we
did
prepare
these
items
that
are
on
page
100
in
the
housing
section.
G
But
what
would
the
impacts
of
just
an
overall
no
growth
approach
be
in
charleston?
Of
course,
they
would
be
halting
the
creation
of
new,
affordable
housing.
Restricting
the
overall
supply
which,
in
the
market-based
economy,
would
overall
drive
home
and
land
values
upwards
from
a
local
business
and
job
growth
standpoint
that
would
be
hindered
because
you
would
have
businesses
that
already
struggle
to
find
employees
due
to
a
lack
of
affordable
housing
stock
struggling
even
more.
G
The
quality
and
reliable
public
transportation
could
not
function
because
public
transit
systems
rely
heavily
on
ridership,
and
the
lack
of
density
along
transit
corridors
could
threaten
their
viability
case
in
point
the
new
lowcountry
rapid
transit.
If
there
isn't
enough
density
along
that
corridor,
it
would
not
work
the
way
it's
designed
to,
and
also
just
from
a
property
rights
standpoint.
A
no
growth
approach
would
also
present
substantial
implications
for
the
current
property
rights
of
property
owning
individuals.
G
So
there
were
a
huge
number
of
items
that
were
very
significant
to
having
a
new
growth
approach
and-
and
the
planning
commission
endorsed
having
this
in
the
document
moving
on
big
shift
here
into
the
land
use
and
the
the
study
of
the
where
the
water
is
going
to
be
in
charleston
from
the
wagner
ball
team.
This
is
a
very
significant
map
for
this
document,
and
this
is
a
map
that
shows
our
elevation
risk
zones
in
the
charleston
area.
G
The
areas
that
are
best
on
this
map
are
in
green,
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
area
is
not
in
green,
the
deep
green,
so
so
that
is
where
we're
going
to
have
to
really
study
things.
That's
where
we're
going
to
really
have
to
look
at
some
density
changes
potentially
and
then
most
of
our
area
is
in
the
adapt
zone.
G
The
the
orangish
color
here,
where
you
know
some
changes
can
be
made
that
will
make
those
areas
more
sustainable,
and
then
we
have
the
compound
flood
risk
zones
or
the
tidal
flood
risk
zones
that
have
a
lot
of
risk
and
a
need
to
maybe
make
some
significant
adjustments
and
just
for
purposes
here.
The
high
ground
is
defined
as
land
outside
of
the
fema
100
year,
flood
plain
and
above
the
noaa
max
category
3,
storm
surge
and
it
has
the
lowest
flood
risk
and
storm
water
detention.
G
Some
other
areas
to
point
out
on
this
map
before
we
go
into
more
detail
in
the
land
use
area,
is
the
fact
that
along
the
sam
rittenberg
corridor,
that's
this
area,
that's
showing
in
green,
where
we've
got
a
lot
of.
You
know
older
commercial
structures.
We
have
very
good
elevation
through
here,
so
this
seems
to
be
an
area
that
we
might
want
to
encourage
more
redevelopment
in,
as
we've
already
been
trying
to
do
along
maybach
highway
on
james
island.
G
G
You
have
your
title
flood
risk
areas
where
you
currently
are
having
your
high
tides
and
and
things
like
that,
your
marshes
and
all
that
and
then
you
have
your
adapt
zone
where
we're
trying
to
work
with
existing
houses
and
neighborhoods.
That
might
be
a
little
bit
low.
That
might
have
some
stormwater
issues,
we're
trying
to
adapt
those
we're
trying
to
defend
those,
and
then
you've
got
your
high
ground
area.
That
is
the
best
area
for
your
your
growth
of
the
city,
your
new
units
in
the
city.
G
Of
course,
you
want
to
reserve
some
of
that
high
ground
areas.
I
was
saying
particularly
if
it's
got
good
soils
and
old-growth
forests,
and
things
like
that.
So
that's
what
this
image
is,
showing
that
there
would
be
a
balance
between
growth
and
reserving
in
those
high
ground
areas,
and
it
leads
to
the
overall
strategies
that
are
in
this
document
of
adapting,
reserving
the
the
tidal
flood
risk
areas
and
then
growing
in
the
responsible
areas
and
defending
the
areas
that
were
already
developed
in
and
and
creating
improvements
there
that
helped
us
to.
G
The
land
use
maps
utilize
a
range
of
terms.
Some
city
plans
just
define
these.
As
like
land
use
area,
one
land
use
area.
Two.
We
tried
to
use
a
word
or
two
to
help.
Describe
these
areas
a
little
bit
and
help
the
public
understand
a
little
bit
better,
what
to
expect,
rather
than
just
kind
of
being
the
bureaucratic,
l1
l2.
G
This
does
not.
These
are
not
designations
that
change
zoning.
These
are
just
planning
recommendations
that
could
be
used
when
individuals
ask
for
rezonings
for
certain
areas
of
the
city
or
city
council
looks
at
potential
rezonings
in
certain
areas
of
the
city,
but
we
have
our
rural
areas
that
are
essentially
outside
the
urban
growth
boundary.
We
have
our
suburban
edge
areas
that
are
essentially
at
the
edge
of
the
urban
growth
boundary.
These
are
areas
where
we're
trying
to
be
fairly
low
density,
one
unit
an
acre
to
four
units.
G
An
acre
examples
include
sanders
shadow
mall
styles
point.
Then
we
have
our
suburban
areas,
which
is
a
very
large
portion
of
the
city.
These
are
low
density,
suburban
style
areas,
adjacent
to
higher
intensity
areas,
they're.
Typically,
four
dwelling
in
snaker
to
eight
dwelling
units.
An
acre
examples
are
wagner:
terrace,
riverland,
terrace,
avondale,
st
johns
woods
on
john's
island.
Things
like
that.
J
With
respect
to
land
use
and
going
to
higher
ground,
which
I
appreciate
and
agree
with,
I
also
want
to
emphasize
especially
obviously
k,
I'm
very
sensitive
to
the
cane
hoy
area,
and
while
that
is
higher
ground,
I
don't
necessarily
think
a
lot
of
it
is
appropriate
for
development.
We've
seen
a
lot
of,
maybe
not
so
great
things
going
on
because
of
this
growth
happening
out
there,
and
so
I
think,
a
lot
more
needs
to
be
taken
into
consideration
and
maybe
we'll
get
to
that
than
just
your
elevation.
J
L
A
G
G
Type
of
area-
it's
primarily
residential,
but
it
does
include
commercial,
and
there
are
some
areas
of
the
city
that
we
are
classifying
as
neighborhood,
based
on
existing
height
limits
and
historic
character,
such
as
lower
areas
on
king
street
areas
of
broad
street,
where
you
wouldn't
really
want
tall
buildings,
and
you
want
to
reflect
the
overall
neighborhood
character
that
is
there
at
present,
such
as
the
restaurants
and
stores
and
shops,
and
things
like
that.
Continuing
that
and
not
having
those
areas
be
the
areas
where
you
have
greater
density
of
housing.
G
Things
like
that
that
you
would
continue
the
existing
density
that
you
find
there,
such
as
ansonboro
or
hampton
park
terrace
and
the
neighborhood
edge,
is
a
term
we're
using
for
these
areas,
particularly
in
the
suburban
areas
where
you've
got
a
center
like
avondale,
along
savannah
highway,
where
you
have
a
range
of
services
that
serve
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
Those
are
services
that
you
wouldn't
necessarily
want
smack-dab
in
the
center
of
neighborhoods
because
of
the
vehicular
access
and
all
that,
but
when
they
focus
around
a
key
corridor
that
could
also
have
good
mass
transit
on
it.
G
They
make
sense
and
that's
why
we
call
the
neighborhood
edge,
because
they're
performing
those
services
and
and
need
meeting
those
needs
of
those
neighborhoods
at
the
very
edge
along
the
main
roads.
And
then
we
have
city
centers.
We
kind
of
changed
the
name
of
this
in
the
past.
We
call
it
urban
core.
We
thought
city
centers,
better
exemplified
what
they
were.
It
doesn't
mean
it's
a
central
business
district,
necessarily
it's
just
the
area
of
the
city
that
has
the
most
dense
and
the
most
mixed
use
portion
of
the
city.
G
G
It's
also
an
area
that
we're
trying
to
emphasize
would
be
on
the
highest
ground
elevations,
allowing
the
best
opportunities
for
new
or
infill
development,
and
this
is
where
we,
our
densities,
would
be.
The
greatest
and
examples
are
you
know,
portions
of
king
and
meeting
and
these
bay
streets
and
then
even
into
morrison,
drive
and
then
other
areas
around
the
city,
such
as
daniel
island
town
center.
G
So
there
are
also
some
more
complicated
areas
of
the
city
that
we
have
allocated
different
categories
that
don't
fit
in
those
previous
six
one,
six
listings
they're
the
campus
categories,
such
as
college
of
charleston
and
our
high
schools
they're
the
job
center
categories.
I
should
also
add
that
the
campus
includes
the
medical
district
in
the
peninsula
as
well
they're
the
job
center
areas
that
have
unusual
block
patterns
and
unusual
buildings
very
often
kind
of
metal,
warehouses.
G
There
aren't
a
lot
of
these
in
the
city,
but
we
do
want
to
protect
those
that
that
take
advantage
of
that,
then
our
parks
that
would
all
be
preserved
and
continue
to
be
parks
and
future
parks
allocated
our
low
impact
and
conserved
areas.
This
is
the
areas
that
that
have
the
threat
of
potential
tidal
risk.
We,
this
is
probably
where
we're
recommending
the
greatest
change
on
our
maps.
G
So
within
the
overall
city,
our
suburban
edge
is
at
12
percent
of
our
city
area.
Our
suburban
category
is
at
11,
so
those
are
very
significant
ones
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
folks
in
the
city
live.
But
it's
important
to
note
that
our
natural
and
wetland
areas
comprise
about
38
of
our
city.
Our
parks
comprise
about
three
percent
of
our
city,
so
we've
got
nearly
50
percent
of
our
city
when
you
factor
in
some
of
that
low
impact
and
conservative
area
as
well
over
50
percent
of
our
city.
G
That
would
not
be
developed
or
would
be
very,
very
minimally
developed.
So
I
think
that
we've
got
a
pretty
good
balance
going
on
here,
but
we
are
certainly
happy
to
look
at
the
maps
in
more
detail
and
and
get
your
input
on
these.
I
know
we're
starting
to
run
short
on
time
here,
so
I'm
going
to
go
through
these
fairly
quickly
we're
going
to
start
with
the
downtown
peninsula
map.
G
So
what
you're
seeing
here?
And
hopefully
you
can
see
my
cursor
through
the
the
heart
of
the
core
of
the
peninsula
king
street
meeting
street.
We
have
the
city
center
area
and
this
is
in
line
with
where
the
future
bus,
rapid
transit
is
going.
It's
all
within
a
quarter
mile
to
a
half
mile
of
that
route.
G
We
also
have
the
east
end
of
calhoun
street,
and
then
we
have
laurel
island
in
this
designation
and
the
magnolia
development
and
the
upper
peninsula
area,
where
you're,
seeing
new
development
occurring
all
are
part
of
this
city
center.
It's
it's
not
to
be
confused
with
like
a
central
business
district.
Those
are
very
different
things.
This
is
basically
a
land
use
category
that
looks
at
where
the
greatest
intensity
of
development
would
be
occurring
and
then.
G
And
from
our
standpoint,
it
is
a
change
from
a
previous
plan
that
had
broad
street
and
lower
king
and
lower
meeting
in
what
we
called
at
that
time.
The
urban
core,
but
as
we
analyzed
where
the
greatest
heights
were
recommended
to
go
where
the
historic
structures
were
where
the
lowcountry
rapid
transit
was
going
to
be,
which
is
our
most
intensive
kind
of
mass
transit.
We
felt
like
carrying
it
that
far
south
was
going
to
result
in
potential
incongruities
with
the
existing
neighborhoods
case
in
point.
L
And
then
jackson,
thank
you,
mr
just
really
briefly,
because
I
know
we've
got
to
get
on
the
other
maps,
but
christopher
I'd
like
to
talk
about
this
map.
In
particular,
I
think
I
think
that
the
exclusion
of
lower
king
street
is
something
we
need
to
talk
about.
I
know
there
are
some
surface
parking
lots
there,
but
there's
other
ways
to
deal
with
it
than
to
call
it
neighborhood
and,
and
then
union
pier
clearly
is
not
going
to
be
industrial,
and
I
think
we
need
to
start
thinking
about
and
planning
for
that.
P
Thank
you.
I
I
would
totally
agree
with
what
councilmember
seeking
just
said.
I
was
responding
to
councilmember
appel,
because
I
I
did
listen
in
on
the
planning
commission,
where
they
had
the
same
discussion
about
how
to
deal
with
the
four
corners
as
a
as
a
zoning
designation,
and
it
just
occurred
to
me
in
looking
at
the
campus.
Maybe
we
could
call
four
corners
our
campus,
because
we
know
we
have
beloved
institutional
buildings
there.
That
should
never
be
changed.
P
We're
not
going
to
allow
any
sort
of
high-rises
that
that
a
city
center
could
potentially
entertain.
But
if
we
made
it
part
of
the
campus
designation,
then
it
would,
it
would
have
a
different
you
know
type
than
just
a
residential,
but
but
it
would
not
become
over
developed
as
a
as
a
city
center.
So
just
a
thought.
Q
That
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
every
bit
of
this
is
a
neighborhood.
I
think
mr
morgan
mentioned
that
this
is
a
mixed
use,
designation
and
it's
more
about
the
density
that
the
city
is
recommending
within
in
these
areas.
It's
not
a
this
is
a
quantitative
type
designation,
not
a
qualitative
type.
It
doesn't.
Q
It
doesn't
say
that
the
four
corners
of
law
or
the
county
judicial
center
is
not
a
part
of
the
center
part
of
our
city,
and
it's
not
important,
and
what
it's
saying
is
that
we
don't
want
the
highest
densities
in
these
areas,
and
I
you
know,
I
I
think
be
careful
with
paying
too
much
attention
to
that
term.
Neighborhood,
perhaps
there's
a
better
name,
but
more
accurately
describes
what
we're
discussing
here,
but
anyway
I
just.
I
just
want
to
mention
that,
because
that's
the
way
the
commission,
I
believe,
approached
this.
G
The
bulk
of
the
area
out
here
is
suburban
at
14,
then
we
have
our
neighborhood
edge
on
some
of
sam
rittenberg,
where
we've
got
existing
residents
there,
but
it
could
be
that
some
of
these
areas
are
kind
of
reimagined
as
they
redevelop
over
time.
We
definitely
have
some
older
shopping
areas
here
that
we
had
put
into
the
city
centers
area
with
the
idea
of
encouraging
redevelopment
there
by
giving
more
density
to
these
areas.
Density
bonuses
that
might
encourage
their
redevelopment.
G
G
G
Here
areas
of
significance
include
the
the
neighborhood
edge
around
the
west
ashley
circle,
where
we're
already
seeing
development
of
that
type
occurring
with
the
new
harris
teeter
shopping
center
out
here,
the
walmart.
That's
out
here
providing
services
to
the
folks
out
here
we're
seeing
an
idea
for
job
centers
along
glenn,
mcconnell
parkway.
G
We
do
have
existing
zoning
that
does
allow
for
some
multi-family
and
we're
seeing
some
multi-family
developers
come
in
there,
but
should
those
projects
not
actually
materialize?
I
think
that
those
would
be
areas
that
the
city
could
be
looking
to
encourage
more
job
center
office
type
development.
You've
got
the
west
ashley
high
school
campus
area.
You've
got
the
saint
francis
campus
area
over
here.
G
G
You
also
see,
of
course,
the
urban
growth
boundary
here,
the
future
long
savannah
development,
and
that
is
in
a
suburban
category,
because
that
matches
the
type
of
density
that
their
existing
pud
and
development
agreement
allow,
for
you
see
the
existing
landfill
in
the
industrial
category,
because
that's
the
type
of
use
that's
occurring
there
and
that's
going
to
be
a
long-term
use
in
that
scientist.
We
all
know
another
area
that
I've
kind
of
neglected
to
point
out
is
our
doo-wop
area.
G
That
shows
us
the
job
center
back
here
in
the
wapu
and
dupont,
road
areas
and
something
else
that
you
see
on
this
map-
and
we
talked
about
a
little
bit
earlier-
is
the
outlines
of
potential
or
outlines
of
existing
settlement
areas.
African-American
settlement
areas
and
again
these
outlines
are
subject
to
you,
know
more
research
and
detail,
but
it's
giving
us
a
sense
of
where
some
of
these
settlement
areas
are
in
areas
that
you
all
are
probably
familiar
with.
But
of
course
we
love
more
input
into
those.
R
Yes,
sir,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Thank
you
jennifer
christopher.
I
I
see
a
lot
of
neighborhood
edge
along
ashley
river
road.
There
is
that
primarily
business
use.
Are
we
talking
about
putting
density
homes
there,
obviously
actually
river
roads
a
you
know,
not
a
not
a
great
place
for
traffic
right
now.
So
that's
my
concern.
I
guess
right.
G
And
it
is,
you
know,
reflective
of
what
we've
got
with
existing
development
and
zoning.
That's
out
there
in
that
area.
It's
it's
a
kind
of
mixed
use,
category
the
neighborhood
edge
and
I'll
I'll,
just
zip
back
real
quick
to
our
description
of
it
here,
which
was
that
it
would
be
six
to
twenty
units
per
acre.
You
know
that
is
lower
than
a
lot
of
the
general
business
or
light
industrial
general
business
or
limited
business
districts
that
are
out
there
at
present.
G
So
you
know
you
could
say
it's
a
slight
reduction
in
some
of
those
instances,
but
it
is
an
area
that
does
have
mass
transit.
It
is
an
area.
I
know
that
the
the
dot
is
going
to
be
doing
some
more
studies
about
you
know,
ways
to
create
turn
lanes
and
other
improvements
for
ashley
river
road.
That
is
greatly,
as
you
pointed
out,
in
need
of
improvement
because
of
the
existing
traffic
situation
out.
There.
R
Yeah,
I
would
just
strongly
disagree
with
this
right
here.
I
just
think
it's
too
much
I
mean
the
roads
cannot
handle
the
amount
of
cars
that
are
on
it
right
now
on
ashley
river
road
in
that
specific
area,
where
you've
got
where
you've
got
neighborhood
edge
there
along
ashley
river
road,
I
mean
I
I
just
don't
know
how
we
can
add
any
cars
and
have
that
amount
of
density.
So
I
I
completely
disagree
and
would
strongly
encourage
us
to
change
that.
I
just
I
don't
think
it
works
there.
N
Councilmember
waring
and
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
proud
of
going
to
james
island,
mr
morgan,
if
you
go
back
up
to
above
the
up
around
long
savannah,
the
city
purchased,
was
it
I
think,
a
hundred
and
eighty
or
two
hundred
acres,
I
thought
up
there
primarily
for
a
park,
but
during
that
period
of
time
we
also
that's
right.
Thank
you.
We
spoke
about
potentially
having
some
affordable
housing
on
that
200
acres
in
the
future.
G
N
M
N
In
the
event
that
we
have
to
go
back
and
revisit
that
with
green
belt,
you
know
we
don't
have
inclusion,
arizona
and
what
has
happened
in
sprawl
over
the
decades
is
that
this
is
an
example
of
a
building
on
a
unaffordable
house
for
certain
people
and
all
of
those
subdivisions.
That's
previously
been
built
out
there.
None
of
them
have
affordable
housing.
N
I
mean
shadow
mars
village,
green
hickory,
hills,
hickory
farms,
and
it
would
be
a
continuation
of
doing
the
same
thing
now
granted
there's
some
aspect
to
long
savannah,
but
that's
just
part
that
I
certainly
like
to
revisit.
That
was
done
prior
to
your
administration.
Mr,
I
mean
mayor
tucker,
but
don't.
H
A
G
So
on
to
james
island,
the
first
thing,
a
lot
of
you
might
notice,
is
that
we've
got
a
lot
of
the
area
in
this
grayish
or
silverish
color.
That
is
what
is
in
the
town
of
james
island.
So
we
are
not
creating
a
plan
for
them.
We've
worked
with
them
on
this,
we've
had
meetings
with
them
and
you
know
they've
kind
of
got
their
own
vision
for
their
town
and
so
we're
obviously
respecting
that
and
and
leaving
that
out
of
our
planning
recommendations.
G
But
some
other
things
to
note
here.
Of
course,
we've
got
settlement
areas
good
many
settlement
areas,
particularly
in
the
central
park,
road
area,
riverland
drive,
in
particular
in
the
lower
areas
of
james
island,
the
rimble
areas
and
all
that
and
again
these
will
have
further
refinement,
as
time
goes
by
you're,
seeing
here
also
because
of
the
highland.
G
G
Some
of
the
other
things
to
note
are
the
large
amount
of
the
natural
or
wetland
areas
that
already
exist,
and
then
the
low
impact
or
conserved
areas,
almost
all
the
central
park
road
areas
in
this,
because
it's
of
its
basic
elevation
and
threat
to
flood
risk.
A
lot
of
these
areas,
north
of
the
james
island
county
park,
are
also
in
that
category.
G
Some
other
things
to
note.
We
did
do
a
slight
alteration
of
the
urban
growth
boundary
on
lower
folly
road.
This
was
in
line
with
what
we
saw
as
the
land
use
designations
that
already
exist
on
the
land
in
reference
to
the
folly
road
overlay,
because
the
folly
road
overlay
has
land
use
designations
that
are
not
really
compatible
with
being
outside
the
urban
growth
boundary.
G
P
Thank
you.
This
is
no
surprise
to
christopher
and
my
friends
on
the
planning
commission.
I
am
on
record
that
I
disagree
with
moving
the
ugb.
I
know
that
you
know
in
a
seamless
planning
world
it's
an
anomaly
to
have
a
housing
subdivision
that
should
probably
not
have
been
approved
there
back
in
the
70s
or
80s
whenever
that
was
and
a
multi-family
apartment
community.
P
But
I
don't
think
that
having
those
those
types
of
build-outs
are
really
typical
of.
When
you
look
at
the
elevation
and
the
settlement
communities
and
the
history
and
the
culture
of
this
part
of
james
island,
it's
much
more
rural
on
the
east
side
of
folly,
road
and
and
there's
definitely
development
prospects
there.
And
if
we
allow
more
density,
we
really
will
be
just
creating
the
continuation
of
you
know:
land
use
that
will
not
be
protective
over
the
future.
G
All
right,
I'm
gonna,
move
on
to
cane
hoy,
I'm
sorry
to
john's
island.
So
here
you
see
the
urban
growth
boundary.
The
vast
majority
of
john's
island
is
outside
the
ugb.
Of
course
the
airport
is
designated
as
a
job
center
area
and
we're
seeing
some
new
job
center
aspects
going
into
this
area,
even
as
we
speak,
but
the
bulk
of
the
emphasis
on
john's
island
is
along
the
maybank
corridor,
where
we've
got,
as
you
might
remember,
in
those
previous
maps,
the
area
in
green,
the
better
elevations.
G
There
still
are
some
drainage
issues
out
here
and
you've
got
to
look
at
each
individual
drainage
basin
before
development
could
be.
You
know
moving
forward
out
here,
but
in
general,
with
the
right
type
of
development
and
analysis
of
the
stormwater,
you
could
have
more
density
along
maybank,
and
so
we
have
the
three
centers
that
have
been
identified.
In
that
previous
plan,
we
cited
the
johns
island
plan
from
2007..
M
G
And
then
into
lower
cane
hoy,
most
of
this
is
developed
or
is
spoil
area.
Of
course,
you've
got
the
develop
daniel
island
area.
We
did
designate
daniel
island
town
center
area
as
a
city
center
because
of
the
type
of
development.
That's
already
there,
the
potential
that
could
happen
over
the
next
10
or
20
years
in
areas
where
you've
got
surface
parking,
lots
things
like
that.
G
G
At
present,
then,
you
move
up
clements
ferry
and
you
start
getting
into
some
of
these
job
centers
and
you
start
having
the
elevations
really
rise
up
and
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
next
map
we
have
here
that
shows
coming
up
clements
ferry
road,
where
the
widenings
already
happened.
You
get
into
areas
like
the
charleston
regional
business
park.
G
This
is
where
we
started
for
the
first
time,
putting
a
city
center
designation
out
here
for
more
intensity
along
this
roadway
because
of
the
elevation
of
the
road
because
of
its
potential,
because
everything
in
the
king
peninsula
is
focused
on
it.
It
has
real
potential
for
bus,
rapid
transit
further
down
in
the
future,
and
so
we
were
designating
a
good
bit
of
it
as
this
city
center
and
it
continues
on
within
a
quarter
mile
or
so
of
clements
ferry
until
you
get
up
to
the
king
hoy
area,
the
historic
areas
of
king
hawaii.
G
Of
course,
we
kept
the
densities
down
further
in
those
because
of
the
nature
of
the
historic
resources
and
the
trees
and
things
like
that.
But
in
these
areas
we
were
recommending
if
development
occurs,
it
could
be
denser
than
is
even
planned
right
now.
The
keenhoy
development
agreement
and
the
king
hoy
pud,
of
course,
allow
for
a
good
amount
of
density
out
here
and
there's
nothing
about
this
plan.
That
would
change
that.
G
It
goes
into
suburban
categories,
where
there
are
already
areas
that
they've
committed
to
the
development
team
was
committed
to
preservation
of
certain
areas
for
old-growth
forest
protection,
and
then
it
definitely
filters
out
towards
the
edge
of
the
ugb
here
in
the
northern
parts
here
to
our
suburban
edge
category.
This
is
one
of
the
biggest
areas
of
suburban
edge
we
have
in
the
city,
but
we
do
have
ugb
that's
behind
this.
G
J
S
P
Thanks,
I
I
don't.
I
wish
I
had
more
insight
than
I
do,
but
I
I
do
feel
like
this.
This
whole
topic,
because
kane
hoy
obviously
is
one
of
the
bigger
undeveloped
areas,
and
I
know
that
there
there
is
an
existing
pad
and
it's
it's
a
one-way
agreement
at
this
point
in
time
unless
the
developer
chooses
to
come
in
with
changes.
P
So
I
I
think
that
might
be
very
helpful
to
us
as
we're
getting
you
know
serious
about
adopting
this
overall
plan.
We
do
have
some
opportunities
that
would
allow
us
to
work
within
parameters,
but
yet
be
innovative
and
responsive
to
the
water
and
land
use
analysis
that
we've,
you
know,
entertained
from
wagner.
Q
Q
I
just
think
you
know
for
the
city,
this
is
the
area
of
future
growth,
where
we
can
hit
those
targets
and
and
make
this
a
livable
community.
That's
available
for
everybody,
so
that
I
believe
that
was
my
thinking
here
and
I'm
as
much
of
a
conservationist
as
as
anybody
who
works
with
it
for
the
the
advocacy
organizations.
A
Well,
I
appreciate
that
that
point
I
I
must
also
point
out
that,
not
only
here,
but
in
other
places
of
the
city
where
puds
were
agreed
upon,
10
and
20
even
longer
ago,
we
didn't
have
the
same
sensibility
about
the
requirements
for
affordable
housing
that
we
do
now
and,
and
that
will
be
a
challenge
for
us
in
this
area.
Frankly,
from
my
point
of
view,
you
know
a
lot
of
what's
approved
in
in
in
these.
A
These
former
agreements
is,
is
market
rate
housing
and
there
wasn't
a
requirement
from
the
city
to
have
20
or
25
percent
of
the
units
to
be
affordable.
So
you
know
some
of
these
things
we
kind
of
have
to
live
with
and
look
for
opportunities
wherever
they
arise
so
anyway,
just
an
observation,
mr
morgan,.
N
G
Just
a
few
more
I'm
gonna
wrap
up
here
real
quickly
because
I
know
we're
already
hitting
on
four
o'clock.
So
in
our
resilience
and
equity
section
that
wraps
up
the
plan,
we
we
do
talk
a
little
bit
about.
You
know
the
proposed
core
wall,
that's
around
the
city,
and
some
of
the
studies
have
been
done
in
reference
to
that.
G
This
image
kind
of
shows,
you
know
downtown
and
where
barrier
protection
would
go,
it
shows
where
the
core
wall
would
go
and
then
it
shows
areas
that
could
have
other
solutions
that
could
be
factored
into
that
core
wall
or
instead
of
the
core
wall
and
and
discussions
that
will
be
ongoing
over
the
coming
months,
but
it
the
downtown
area,
was
the
recommendations
were
created,
based
on
a
form
of
barrier
protection
being
around
downtown
at
a
12-foot
level.
We
also
identified
in
this
image
here
you
see
the
12-foot
basic
elevation
in
downtown.
G
G
So
definitely
there
was
a
history
in
our
planning
efforts
in
this
community
in
the
past.
That
was
not
a
a
proud
one
here,
but
not
dissimilar
to
other
communities
across
the
country,
but
clearly
pointing
to
the
need,
for
you
know,
reforms
in
this
area
as
we're
all
working
towards
in
this
document
and
many
many
others.
G
So
what
are
the
next
steps
in
this
plan?
It's
coming
to
you
for
a
public
hearing
on
july
20th,
and
that
would
be
the
first
time
that
city
council
would
give
it
readings.
Obviously
it's
ultimately
is
a
a
document
that
would
have
the
the
normal
three
readings,
but
the
first
reading
would
be
at
that
meeting
on
july
20th.
That
will
be
a
public
hearing
time
it's
getting
a
30-day
advance
notice,
so
it
will
be
an
important
discussion
there.
G
G
A
Well,
thank
you,
christopher,
and
thank
you
and
all
of
the
staff.
Y'all
have
really
done
a
remarkable
job
and
to
our
folks
that
have
helped
us
our
our
contracted
helpers.
Thank
you
so
much
particularly
well
on
all
aspects,
but
the
big
ones
were
the
water
management
and
the
housing
affordable
housing.
Those
were
really
significant,
but
the
engagement
was
great
with
the
public
and
anyway,
let
me
open
up
the
floor
and
see
if
first
for
many
planning,
commission
members,
if
you
all
would
like
to
add
any
further
comments.
D
D
That's
not
something
we
deal
with
on
the
planning
commission,
but
we,
I
think
that
the
city
recently
tried
to
incentivize
developers
to
do
more,
affordable
workforce
housing
by
giving
them
an
option
to
add
floors
if
they
do
some
things
and
it
seems
like
all
of
them
are
basically
saying
of
or
backing
off
of
that
and
just
paying
the
fees.
Instead
of
that,
I
think,
if
we're
ever
going
to
solve
this
problem,
we've
got
to
get
these
developers
on
board
with
it.
A
Thank
you,
sir.
Yes,
sir.
I
appreciate
that.
I,
I
think
that's
right.
We
needed
to
make
it
easier
for
those
in
the
private
sector
to
provide
more
affordable
housing
and
want
to
do
so
and
and
there's
the
cost
side,
but
there's
also
the
income
side
and
trying
to
you
know
narrow
those
economic
disparities,
so
that
some
folks
who
can't
afford
current
prices
might
be
able
to
one
day.
D
S
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I've
really
been
encouraged
to
witness
council's
similar
thoughts
today
and
concerns
about
getting
this
plan
right.
We
worked
very
hard,
and
I
was
hearing
council
begin
to
sort
of
echo
some
of
our
thoughts
that
we
discussed
in
many
of
our
complaint
planning.
Commission
meetings
is
a
progressive
plan.
S
It's
a
thoughtful
plan,
but
it's
also
illustrating
some
of
the
conundrums
we're
going
to
have
with
balancing
you
know
natural
resources
with
housing
with
transportation,
and
we
haven't
had
much
time
in
this
process
because
it's
a
lot
to
digest
and
it's
a
lot
to
present.
So
I
might
respectfully
ask
that
we
consider
having
another
workshop
if
there's
time
and
there's
the
will
of
counsel.
To
do
that,
I
would
there's
some
of
these
issues
like
with
cain
hoyen
on
john's
island.
We
might
want
to
dig
in
a
little
bit
further.
S
O
Yes,
thank
you,
for
you
know,
we've
done
a
a
yeoman's
job
planning
staff
has
done
that
with
us,
and
you
know
the
very
beginning
of
2020.
You
know
we
started
this
process
and
one
of
those
things
that
we
talked
about
was
resilience
and
how
we're
going
to
incorporate
that.
But
then
we
have
a
stronger
piece
on
equity
and
I
noticed
you
know,
even
though
we've
called
it
resilience
and
equity.
O
So
you
know
in
in
retrospect
we
really
do
need
to
really
think
about
how
how
we
look
at
downtown
as
not
being
a
place
that
is
almost
a
gated
community
and
making
sure
that
people
have
access
to
it
and
can
live
here
and
and
actually
looking
at
how
we
can
increase
and
diversify
that
population.
And
so
that's
that's
one
thing.
I
think
we
I
don't
want
to
complete
resilience
and
water,
but
also
that
equity
piece
really
does
deal
with
the
diversity
of
of
the
city.
A
J
So
I
just
had
two
things
and
again:
if
we
do
another
session
like
this
or
something
like
that,
but
I
would
like
a
little
bit
more
information
around
why
tourism
management
was
not
brought
into
this
mix.
I
mentioned
it
earlier
about
the
tourism
management
plan
and
also
why
there's
not
more
of
an
emphasis
on
economic
development,
perhaps
looking
into
an
office
of
economic
development.
J
I
love
helen
hill
with
all
my
heart
and
I
feel
as
though
somehow
she
has
kind
of
become
our
de
facto
economic
development
director
and
she's
amazing,
but
that's
not
her
job
and
I
think
we
need
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
support
that
and
support
the
economy
of
this
region
and
to
me
that's
a
very
critical
component
that
needs
to
be
discussed
in
this
plan.
However,
that
needs
to
look
within
the
confines
of
a
comprehensive
plan.
H
Yeah
in
response
to
council
member
del
chapo,
as
you
know,
that
is
one
of
the
recommendations
also
coming
out
of
the
commission
and
and
reading
the
economic
development
portion
of
this
plan.
Okay,
there
is
discussion
about
establishing
an
office
of
economic
development
in
the
city,
there's
discussion
and,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
it's
also
in
the
recommendations
of
the
economic
development
portion
of
the
plan.
But
what
I
wanted
to
say
is
I'm
extremely
happy
thus
far
with
what
I've
seen.
H
I've
never
seen
a
document
produced
by
the
city
of
charleston
that
has
so
much
information
about
disparity
about
equity
and
how
we
approach
it.
That's
new
for
the
city
of
charleston.
So
for
me
I
think
this
is
an
unbelievable
starting
point
for
us
to
continue
to
look
at
things
through
the
equity
lens.
So
I
just
want
to
tell
the
folks
who
worked
on
this.
I
read
every
single
word
of
this
plan
and
I
think
that
what
you
have
done
thus
far
is
very,
very
good
for
our
city
and
donna.
H
I
think
another
workshop
might
be
a
good
one,
because
I
think
it'll
give
us
an
opportunity
to
really
flush
out
some
issues,
because,
even
as
I
read
the
definition
of
equity
contained
in
the
report,
I
might
define
it
a
little
differently.
So
again,
I
think
that
there
are
some
discussion
points
that
that
must
be
had.
But
again,
I
think
that
what
has
been
done
thus
far
is
admirable,
and
I
appreciate
it.
N
H
N
For
one,
mr
mayor,
I
thank
you
for
bringing
this
together
last
time.
We
didn't
have
a
joint
session
like
this
with
counsel,
and
I
do
agree
with
commissioner
jacobs
and
that
we
need
to
have
a
follow-up
to
this
to
address
the
concerns
such
as
council
lady
del
chapo,
came
up
in
particular
councilman
sheila
he's
been
the
watchman
on
the
wall,
about
high
impact
development,
coming
up
full
historic,
61
and
obviously
no
traffic
solutions
being
held.
So
I
think
his
concern
on
that.
I
certainly
share
his
concern
on
that.
N
It
needs
to
be
addressed
in
this
plan
and
if
we
get
improvements
out
there,
we
can
always
come
back
and
amend
the
plan
to
encourage
if
we
want
high
dense
development,
if
that's
the
pleasure
of
the
majority,
so
I
like,
I
think
we're
rushing
it
too
fast.
Getting
it
to
council
on
on
the
20th
months
and
months
and
months
of
work
have
gone
into
this
and
our
joint
effort
is
this
one
right
here.
So
I
I
do
like
the
idea
of
doing
a
second
time.
N
N
Those
properties
will
come
into
the
city
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
better
way
of
instead
of
just
evolving
into
that
absorption.
I
think
we
ought
to
have
a
plan
for
that
absorption
now.
I
know
the
people
in
the
psd
would
you
know,
probably
do
a
backflip
to
hear
that,
but
just
look
at
the
pattern
over
the
last
10
years
look
at
the
size
of
the
psd
10
years
ago
and
look
at
its
size
today.
N
So
when
these
comments
are
made
by
the
commissioners
as
well
as
council
members,
and
you
too
mayor,
how
does
that
we
just?
Is
that
just
conversation
and
then
the
plan
as
we
see
it,
still
comes
forward
to
be
voted
on,
or
is
it
going
to
be
amended
prior
to
coming
to
council
for
a
vote
so
anyway?
That's
why
those
things
and
others
I
think
we
definitely
need
to
have
another
planning
session.
P
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
I
totally
agree.
We
should
have
another
work
session
in
person
would
be
wonderful
and
and
really
make
it
a
now
that
we've
had
the
thorough
presentation
thanks
to
mr
morgan
and
our
director
summerfield,
but
we
we,
I
think
we
could
pick
out
some.
You
know
sort
of
exemplary
topics
that
we
all
have
have
concerns
over
or
or
ideas
that
we
would
like
to.
You
know
really
drill
into
I.
P
So
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
reading
about
anti-displacement,
it's
a
much
more
proactive
movement
than
just
you
know,
thinking
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
build,
affordable
and
have
some
attainable
community
pricing
that
will
retain
a
full
range
of
of
income
earners
in
our
city,
and
I
do
think
that
whether
that
goes
into
our
comp
plan
or
but
definitely
needs
to
be
a
companion
to
our
thinking
on
how
we're
going
to
be
proactive
to
make
a
community
as
long
lasting
and
as
resilient
as
we
can.
So
I
would.
P
P
H
Just
for
a
point
of
clarification.
I
think
it's
very
important
for
us
to
know
that
this
document
does
not
contain
any
zoning
changes.
Okay,
the
document
only
makes
recommendations,
okay,
as
which,
as
which
we
as
council,
will
then
determine
if
accepted
whether
or
not
zoning
changes
are
required
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
christopher
on
that.
This
is
not
a
zoning
document.
G
A
A
So
just
hearing
everyone
we
do
have
the
you
know
the
public
hearing
already
set
up
for
our
july
meeting.
It's
always
good
to
get
public
engagement
and
comments
from
the
public,
so
I
you
know,
there's
no
reason
not
to
proceed
with
that.
I
I
certainly
hear
you
all
loud
and
clear.
I
I
do
think
we'll
get
back
together.
I'd
like
to
do
it
in
person
as
well
rather
than
by
zoom
I've.
I've
found
I've.
I've
missed
our
in-person
meetings
and
sometimes
we
can
brainstorm
better.
A
We
had
the
bulk
of
the
meeting
today,
just
to
present
all
this
to
us,
I'm
going
to
miss
a
few,
but
you
know
union,
pier
four
corners
law,
kane
hoy
peninsula,
highway
61,
including
other
a
couple
of
other
plans,
including
the
racial
bias
audit.
The
tourism
management
plan
discussion
about
economic
development
annexation,
so
those
are
just
to
name
the
key
ones
that
I
heard
that
we
can
just
dig
right
into
rather
than
you
know,
having
a
long
presentation
and
and
see
if
we
can
find
some
consensus
on
on
those
issues
that
we
have.
A
You
know
whenever
we
get
together
in
person
as
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
I
think
we
could
do
it
after
the
july
public
hearing
whether
we
give
first
reading
or
not,
we
we
can
make
changes
to
this
comp
plan.
We
we've
got
a
little
more
time.
I
know
this
was
originally
due
at
the
end
of
the
last
year
and
we
had
the
pandemic
and
it
got
stretched
out.
A
S
I
A
And
two
prayer
housing
on
that
list:
gotcha
yeah!
Sorry!
I
missed
that
one
all
right!
So,
council
members,
we
do
have
a
brief
committee
on
ways
and
means.
I
think
it's
by
a
separate
zoom
link.
Isn't
that
right,
jennifer
so
could
I
suggest
we
take
about
a
four
minute
break
and
join
back
together
for
ways
and
means
in
in
just
four
minutes.
Thank
you,
commissioners,
for
all
your
hard
work
and
we'll
be
getting
together.