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City of Charleston Council Meeting - September 18,2018
A
Many
blessings
in
your
amazing
grace.
We
pray
for
those,
as
my
colleague
did
earlier,
in
North,
Carolina
and
South
Carolina,
who
on
doing
hardships
right
now
and
we
pray
as
a
city
that
we
will
pull
on
our
abilities,
in
particular
our
experience
from
Hugo
to
help
those
in
need
as
Christians.
We
are
all
renewed.
A
A
A
A
B
Thank
you
very
much,
a
short
announcement
for
those
who
have
not
been
here
before
in
the
very
unlikely
event
that
we
needed
to
exit
the
building.
We've
got
these
two
exits
right
here
and
one
exit
from
my
room
to
my
right
do
not
use
the
elevator
if
we
had
to
evacuate
the
building
but
use
the
two
stair
where
waves
going
down
and
then
the
single
stairway
going
out
the
front
from
the
first
floor.
B
So
first
we
have
a
couple
of
proclamations.
We
want
to
recognize
an
incredible
organization.
That's
celebrating
its
40th
anniversary
I'd
like
to
ask
Carol
Linville
the
pet
helpers
founder
and
Alan
burger,
who
is
their
executive
director
to
please
join
me
up
here
on
the
dais
and
I
would
like
to
make
this
approximation
to
you,
whereas
pet
helpers
celebrated
its
40th
anniversary,
June
of
2018
pet
helpers
was
founded
by
Carol
Linville,
a
pioneer
in
the
animal
welfare
welfare
world.
B
Whereas,
with
the
help
of
countless
friends
and
supporters,
pet
Halpern's
moved
to
its
current
modern
shelter.
14:47
folly,
wrote
in
2008,
featuring
a
low-cost,
spay
neuter
clinic
open
to
the
public
and
whereas
carol
continues
to
further
pet
helpers
mission,
matching
all
animals
to
their
new
families
for
a
lifetime.
Commitment
of
love
and
care,
and
the
city
of
Charleston
is
proud
and
honored
to
have
pet
helpers
as
part
of
the
community
for
40
years,
and
takes
great
pleasure
in
helping
to
celebrate
this
milestone.
B
C
D
So
we
are
continuing
to
do
our
work,
not
only
in
the
low
country
and
here
in
Charleston
and
we're
so
proud
to
be
the
only
shelter
in
the
city
of
Charleston.
Mr.
mayor
I'm,
joining
Michael
Moore.
That
was
here
earlier,
oh
I,
like
having
the
gavel,
what
my
board
won't.
Let
me
have
one
in
our
meeting
so
but
I
do
want
to
mention.
We
have
a
40th
anniversary,
furball
gala
at
the
Francis
Marion
November
10th
6:30
p.m.
it's
going
to
be
an
awesome
event.
I
invite
everyone
here.
D
B
B
B
I
congratulate
Lin's
on
being
a
20-18
Elizabeth,
Dole
caregiver
fellow,
and
thank
her
for
service
to
our
hidden
heroes
in
our
community
modeled
through
our
unselfish
sacrifice
and
unswerving
loyalty
to
her
husband
and
family.
Therefore,
our
John
J
Declan
burg,
mayor
city,
Charleston,
on
behalf
of
City
Council,
also
proclaimed
today
is
Lin
Lin's
Piper
Loomis
day
in
the
city
of
Charlton.
Let's
give
her.
F
B
Alright
next
I
want
to
take
a
general
opportunity
to
thank
the
many
people
and
organizations
who
offered
their
support
and
were
instrumental
in
the
city's
Hurricane
Florence
preparation.
Over
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
I
mean
it's
really
been
a
remarkable
effort
by
our
staff
and
by
so
many
community
partners,
and
it
was
all
hands
on
deck.
While
Charleston
was
fortunately
spared
that
Direct
Hit
there
were
countless
people,
groups
and
organizations
that
answer
the
call
lent
their
support
so
that
we
would
be
prepared
for
whatever
came
our
way.
B
Many
are
here
tonight
be
recognized
and
thanked
for
their
tremendous
support
in
person.
Some
were
unable
to
attend,
as
their
focus
has
now
shifted
to
helping
our
neighbors
in
North
Carolina
recover
from
a
much
harder
hit.
We
plan
to
follow
tonight's
recognition
with
a
formal
resolution
in
the
next
few
weeks
again
thanking
those
who
stood
by
our
city
and
helped
us
prepare
for
what
could
have
been
worse,
so
I'm,
going
to
call
out
some
names
and
organizations
and
I'm
going
to
apologize
in
advance.
B
Welcome:
that's
a
National
Guard
captain
Jason
burns
with
the
Salvation
Army
welcome
and
thank
you
for
those
delightful
meals
who
supplied
our
city
staff
down
that
down
at
the
me
over
the
last
week.
We
really
appreciate
it:
Amanda
Burke
Baldwin
and
Britney
Rubin
with
the
Red
Cross.
The
Red
Cross
once
again
did
a
terrific
job
in
our
tri-county
region
and
throughout
the
affected
area,
running,
shelters,
council,
member
Sea
Kings
with
Carter.
Please
stand
Oscar
Douglas
with
the
Charleston
County
School
District.
B
Thank
you
for
being
with
us
tonight,
Oscar
Janice
Swenson.
Who
is
our
interpreter
for
those
that
needed
a
little
help
with
in
interpretation.
She
was
there
for
all
the
press
conferences
we
gave
Doug
Warner
and
the
folks
at
the
convention.
Visitors
Bureau,
hey
Doug.
They
helped
in
in
many
ways,
including
helping
us
identify
and
and
provide
some
lodging
for
our
public
service,
Parks
and
Recreation
employees,
who
were
positioned
there,
ready
to
help.
Stacey
Deneau
is
with
us
tonight
from
180
place
and
that's
a
whole
story
in
itself.
B
When
folks
came
back
to
the
city
after
the
Red
Cross
closed
their
shelters.
Somehow
we
got
a
lot
more
back
than
we
sent
up
so
to
speak
and
and
Stacey
in
180
place
and
and
Maria
Elena
really
stepped
up
to
the
occasion
and
Maria
Lena
you're.
Next,
on
my
list,
you've
already
introduced
her
earlier
with
military
community
connections.
Frances
Hilton
with
Blue
Cross
Blue
Shield.
They
offered
free
telehealth
visits
to
their
members.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
B
In
a
similar
fashion,
Sean
Valenta
with
MUSC
is
the
administrator
of
their
telehealth
and
they
offered
free
telehealth
visits
to
their
members
and
to
folks
that
were
in
the
Red,
Cross
shelters,
correct,
Tony,
Carter
and
Matt
Paulus
with
Sanders
brothers.
Construction
are
y'all
with
us.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us.
They
helped
to
provide
the
pumps
and
the
storm
drain
cleaning
ahead
of
the
storm.
So
we
had
those
position
in
places
unable
to
attend,
but
involved
with
these
preparations
included.
B
Fred
Warner
Joseph
Hatton
Matthew
Floyd,
Anthony,
Shumpert,
Michelle,
Herndon,
Tony,
Coleman,
Gavin,
Fletcher,
Louis,
Howell,
Kurt
back.
Those
are
all
folks
with
Sanders
brothers,
correct
Wow.
What
a
team
Maurice
and
Arthur,
hey
and
Irwin
Houston
are
y'all
with
us.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us,
and
it
was
over
the
weekend
that
we
first
came
up
with
the
oh.
We
need
some
saying
and
they
really
responded
off-hours
to
the
call
did
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
bring
some
sand
in
and
help
our
citizens
have
those
available.
B
Kelly,
Barnhart
and
Matt
Holly
with
Hampton
Inn
Daniel
Island,
where
y'all
are
y'all
here.
Well,
we'll
thank
them.
Christy
Tolly
was
Citadel
mall.
They
offered
their
facilities
as
a
staging
area.
In
case
we
needed
high
ground
West
Ashley
Tyler's
stopped
with
a
planet.
Fitness
are
you
here,
thank
you
for
providing
showers
for
our
Charleston
police
officers
who
work
in
during
the
storm.
Now,
whoever
I
missed
just
please
stand
up
and
identify
yourself.
If
you
are
here,
Charleston
County
is
here
the
Sheriff's
Department,
oh
yeah,.
G
B
F
B
They,
among
other
things
over
the
weekend
and
over
the
hurricane,
were
willing
to
open
up
the
warm
and
shelter
for
us
when
we
needed
that
this
past
Saturday
night
unable
to
attend
but
should
still
be
recognized
at
Kevin,
lesser
wits
with
call
to
haul
trucking.
They
donated
four
loads
of
sand
at
Sumar,
Street
they're
unable
to
attend,
because
they're
already
got
their
trucks
up
in
North
Carolina
helping
people
up
there
B&C
land
development
company
also
helped
provide
some
of
the
pumps
that
we
pre
positioned
and
places
around
the
city.
B
Dorian
Peterson
and
Megan
Megan
Jake's,
with
chick-fil-a
west,
actually
gave
a
hundred
sandwiches
to
our
first
responders
and
evacuees
the
owner
Megan.
She
coordinated
the
efforts,
she's
unable
to
be
with
us
because
she
just
had
a
baby.
So
congratulations
to
Megan.
So
can
we
all
give
just
a
huge
round
of
applause.
B
But
I
tell
you
they
did
a
remarkable
job,
but
the
teamwork
of
all
the
departments
and
I
want
to
share
with
everyone
that
a
lot
of
times
an
emergency
comes
along.
You
do
think
primarily
of
our
police
and
fire
department,
and
they
did
an
incredible
job.
I
mean
they
really
did,
but
sometimes
lost
in
the
shuffle.
B
Is
those
other
city,
employees,
the
folks
that
trim
trees
and
work
in
our
parks
and
our
stormwater
of
drivers
and
our
heavy
equipment,
drivers
and,
and
and
folks,
like
that,
and
they
really
are
they're
there
when
we
call
them
and
and
and
they're
on
duty
they're
on
call
their
morale
was
great.
They
they,
the
preparations,
were
the
work
was
incredible
and
they
were
ready
for
whatever
came
they
really
were.
So
if
I
may
ask
one
more
time,
let's
give
our
city
employees
a
round
of
applause,
they
did
a
good
job.
B
So
the
last
thing
I'll
mention
about
the
storm
is
that
today
area
low
country,
mayor's,
along
with
myself,
announced
a
partnership
with
the
coastal
community
foundation
for
our
community
to
be
able
to
raise
some
local
dollars
to
help
those
who
are
really
impacted
by
the
storm
in
other
parts
of
South
Carolina
and
in
North
Carolina.
So
you
can
go
to
coastal
community
dot
or
coastal
community
fun
org
and
there's
a
link
there
to
be
able
to
give
to
storm
relief,
Florence
relief,
100%
of
all
the
donations
will
go
directly
to
storm
relief
and
the
foundation.
B
So
anyway,
we're
definitely
working
to
pay
a
full.
Now
neck's
is
our
public
hearings
and
we
have
none.
So
that's
we'll
have
some
of
those.
Next
week
we
have
our
approval
of
City
Council
minutes
from
August
21
I
got
a
motion
approve
and
second
any
deletions
or
additions.
Hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
next?
Is
our
citizens
participation
period?
Did
we
have
a
sign-up
sheet
Jennifer.
B
G
Also
I
want
to
thank
the
city
for
recognizing
the
Muslim
sister
and
community
or
the
health
department
that
they
did.
I
think
that
was
very
rewarding
and
I
want
to
thank
councilman
wife
for
sharing
his
concern
and
telling
me
that
he
appreciated
me
coming
to
City
Council
and
I
Thank
You,
councilman
white
I
had
a
seizure
doubt
the
day
and
I
blacked
out
and
I
ended
up
in
the
Charleston
place
in
the
bar
and
I
came
up
with
this.
G
It's
the
priceless
a
pair
wine
and
whiskey,
and
we
know
that
alcohol
destroy
a
great
deal
of
people
here
in
the
city
of
Charleston
around
the
world,
so
I'll
be
working
with
that
now.
But
I
want
to
thank
you
all
again
for
recognizing
the
Muslim
sister
and
I
won't.
Thank
you,
councilman
white,
for
recognizing
when
you
say
that
Mohammed
you
don't
miss
special
meeting.
You
come
to
regular
meeting
you
be
here
sometime
in
the
council.
Men
don't
be
here,
I
believe
that
was
very
rewarding.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir
mark.
B
H
Then
interesting,
last
three
or
four
weeks.
Of
course
Chicken
Little
survived,
but
you
know
I
told
everybody
I
knew
hit.
The
button
come
in
here.
I
didn't
have
that
Hugo
feeling,
but
you
know
everybody
thinks
they're
weathermen
get
paid
six
figures,
so
they
can
be
right
wrong,
90%
of
the
time.
So
what
the
hey
couple
things
that
really
are
bothering
me
number
one.
Apparently
there
are
two
investigations
by
a
one
by
the
FBI
and
sled.
That's
really
concerning
me:
I'm
not
going
to
go
any
further
than
that.
I
just
hope
everybody
knows
about
it.
H
Next
thing
is
the
I
keep
hearing
I've
been
talking
to
a
guy
that
owns
a
church
over
ambe's
Ferry
and
it's
floods
every
time
and
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
we're
not
really
moving
in
the
right
direction.
On
solving
this
problem,
I
mean
I've
come
up
with
two
solutions,
but
instead
we
keep
throwing
money
at
engineers
just
because
they
peek
out
of
PE
doesn't
necessarily
mean
they
know
what
they're
doing
so
I'm
a
little
concerned
at
how
we
were
going
about.
This
I
already
have
two
plans.
H
That
would
probably
solve
the
problems,
and
then
you
know
I
just
my
next
problem
is
a
really
serious
one
with
the
police
department,
a
young
lady,
22-year
veteran
got
fired
because
she
told
a
guy
that
maybe
he
needs
to
go
see
units
get
an
attorney
twenty-two
years,
not
a
thing
in
her
folder
and
she
gets
fired
for
suggesting.
Maybe
he
needs
to
go
see
an
attorney
I
think
public
safety
people
need
a
little
look
at
that
one.
That
concerns
me.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
C
Their
investment
is
going
down
and
essentially
they're
losing
their
investment
and
so
I
think
I'm,
just
gonna
echo.
What
I've
heard
from
so
many
homeowners
is
that
you
know.
Obviously,
they
don't
want
to
wait
ten
years
or
five
years
or
two
years
they
want
to
be
able
to
have
a
solution
to
combat
flooding,
so
I,
just
kind
of
want
to
leave.
C
I
I
did
actually
do
a
worker
ride
up
with
multiple
flood
defense
options
for
the
city
of
Charleston,
where
we,
as
a
provider
of
flood
barriers,
do
have
the
ability
to
raise
all
6.2
miles
of
the
battery
in
a
matter
of
one
or
two
days,
with
a
temporary
flood
defense
barrier
that
is
removable
and
a
hundred
percent
reusable
roughly
at
a
cost
of
3.1
million
dollars,
plus,
obviously
the
support
of
a
water
truck
from
the
from
the
city.
But
you
know
I
understand
that
you
guys
are
paying.
C
Thank
you
and
basically
one
final
thing.
Fima
obviously,
I
work
all
over
the
country
doing
flood
barriers
a
lot
of
times,
I
provide
barriers
when
people
are
in
an
emergency.
Obviously
there's
this
declared
disaster
and
there's
after
funds
that
are
available.
That
I
believe
are
totally
available
for
you
guys.
So
that's
all
thank
you
for
having
me.
Thank
you.
I
I'm
Susan
Lions
with
groundswell
I,
want
to
sort
of
echo
what
he
said
and
and
say
that
this
has
been
a
really
horrible
week
here
in
Charleston,
but
nothing
compared
to
what's
going
on
200
miles
north.
As
mr.
Waring
said.
My
concern
is
that
from
last
year
to
this
year,
nothing
changed
here
in
the
city
of
Charleston
that
would
have
protected
the
families
who
live
here
and
the
homes
that
they're
trying
desperately
to
save
and
I'm
one
of
them.
I
I
We
need
a
an
interim
protection
plan
for
the
city
of
Charleston
to
protect
the
people
who
live
here
until
the
time
that
we
get
the
permanent
infrastructure
that
will
make
the
city
safe
and
I
just
beseech
the
City
Council
and
the
mayor
to
get
going
on
this
now
in
the
middle
of
this
season,
so
that
we
don't
face
another
season
terrified.
We
are
all
really
scared
and
we
we
just
don't
have
the
protection
that
we
feel
we
deserve.
There's
money
to
be
found.
I
B
J
B
K
Sir
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
so
this
is
a
report
back
to
council
in
regards
to
short-term
rentals
and
the
requested
variances
from
the
short-term
rental
process
that
we
heard
from
City
Council
members
some
time
ago.
So,
first
of
all,
as
a
brief
gonna
give
a
brief
recap
talk
about
folks
who
have
worked
on
this
talk
about
where
we
are
and
then
what
we
recommend.
K
K
We
heard
about
request
for
a
short-term
rental,
stop
right
on
places
like
King,
Street,
upper
and
lower
on
Savannah,
Highway,
folks,
with
James
Island
and
even
folks,
downtown,
who
want
to
be
able
to
operate
a
short-term
rental,
but
they
aren't
allowed
to
by
the
current
ordinance.
So
we
heard
those
requests,
we
heard
requests
for
parking
to
be
accommodated
and
parking
decks
and
and
many
other
things
and
we've
looked
into
all
of
those.
Now.
K
We
have
this
major
meeting
of
everybody
weekly
to
roll.
This
thing
out
so
with
us,
the
new
ordinance
has
been
launched
and
we
have
just
begun
the
process
and
it's
working
and
we're
off
to
a
pretty
good
start
and
they're
the
two
sorts
of
reports
back
from
this.
The
first
is
zoning
from
my
department
in
the
second
is
livability
from
Dan's
Department
and
the
first
thing
from
our
standpoint
just
to
give
some
numbers
to
you
all
in
terms
of
what
we've
done
so
far
there
are.
K
K
So
this
is
our
first
time
doing
it,
of
course,
or
in
new
forms,
new
computer
system,
all
that
so
far
of
those
9
of
them
have
been
denied
they
weren't
eligible
for
one
reason
or
another.
3
of
them
have
been
fully
issued
totally
operational
and
three
of
them
are
pending,
meaning
the
owners
just
need
to
come
in
and
pay
their
final
fee
and
get
their
BL
Co
their
business
license
and
certificate
of
occupancy.
Now,
in
general,
about
two
months
time
to
approval,
not
bad,
we
know
we
can
improve
that.
K
So
that's
what
we've
seen
from
the
zoning
stance
from
the
standpoint
and
from
Dan
we
have
some
really
great
numbers
and
they've
got
their
software
up
and
running,
which
is
their
enforcement
software
and
they're
doing
a
phenomenal
job
with
their
additional
staff
that
you
all
approved
and
Dan
since
you've
hissed
thanks
for
approving
this
additional
staff
by
the
way,
because
you
put
them
to
work
the
software
that
they
were
using
an
additional
staff,
have
identified
1669
short
term
rental
listings.
That's
what
we
see
online.
K
353
properties
have
been
confirmed,
meaning
they
have
taken
the
software
and
they've
matched
it
with
an
address,
and
they
know
it's
real
and
out
there.
58
of
those
are
compliant,
meaning
that
they
are
approved
and
permitted
they're.
Okay
within
the
city
system,
they're
good
to
go.
185
of
those
are
not
complying
of
those
87.
Letters
have
been
sent
out
of
those
13
summons
have
been
issued
and
they
will
appear
in
liveability
court
in
october.
40
listings
so
far
have
been
removed.
They've
been
removed
off
of
the
online
sites.
The
the
owners
have
said.
K
So
with
that
said,
what
we
would
like
to
ask
of
you
is
for
you
to
consider
giving
all
of
the
staff
a
little
more
time
to
continue
to
roll
this
process
out
and
what
that's
gonna
give
us
is
more
quantitative
data,
more
numbers,
but
also
more
qualitative
data,
because
we
are
interacting
with
these
folks.
Some
of
them
will
come
before
the
board
of
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals.
They
talked
to
us.
They
talked
to
staff.
K
The
one
is
to
create
a
floating
zone
where
you
could
actually
create
a
zone
that
could
be
applied
to
a
property,
not
unlike
our
combinations
overlay
zone,
which
would
enable
short-term
rentals,
and
that
would
be
a
rezone,
so
that
would
go
through
Planning
Commission
and
to
you
as
well.
So
that's
one
way
to
do
this
and
another
way
to
enable
the
things
that
you
all
have
requested
is
simply
to
modify
the
ordinance.
The
reason
you've
requested
variances
from
it
is
because
the
ordinance
doesn't
allow
these
things
to
happen.
K
K
So
with
that
said,
the
system
is
working.
We
are
working
on
bringing
people
in
and
we
are
working
on
enforcement
for
those
that
we
have
received,
complaints
about
and
without
side.
You
know,
I'm
here
can
answer
as
many
questions
as
possible.
I
also
have
legal
else
have
livability
and
short-term
rentals,
as
you
all
know,
is
among
the
most,
if
not
the
most
complex
issue
that
we
are
facing
in
our
planning
department
in
general,
but
we're
happy
that
this
thing
is
off
to
a
good
start.
So
far,.
B
L
K
M
Okay,
what
we're
finding
and
what
Jacob
was
explaining
the
software
is,
is
going
through
this
data
for
us
and
and
the
online
advertisements
and
they're
validating
from
validation.
It
comes
to
us
once
it's
validated
that
they
are
illegally
operating.
Our
first
line
of
approach
is
issuing
a
warning
letter
throughout
the
entire
city.
It's
not
focused
downtown
West
Ashley,
it's
all
over.
M
We
are
finding
more
so
that
most
people
want
to
comply.
Today
we
had
several
more
that
that
dropped
their
listing,
and
an
interesting
note
is
July.
The
10th
was
the
first
day
that
applications
were
being
received
by
zoning
July,
the
9th
we
already
had
data
input
with
our
company,
our
our
our
contractor
and
150
people
drop
their
their
listings
right
away.
So
we're
going
to
have
this
kind
of
balance
of
people
that
want
to
do
the
right
thing
and
the
people
that
want
to
just
get
away
with
it.
M
M
It
the
Charleston
County,
has
it
as
well,
so
we're
able
to
communicate
with
them
and
we
have
a
lot
of
people
with
6%
properties
that
aren't
living
there
that
are
are
rated
at
4%,
so
they're
getting
away
with
the
not
paying
their
proper
property
taxes,
we're
identifying
those
individuals
and
sending
that
information
to
the
county
as
well.
So
it's
it's!
It's
really
has
strengthened
our
communication
with
the
county.
We're
able
to
give
them
information
to
in
turn
have
the
individual
with
property
tax
records
up
to
date.
M
N
Appreciated
all
those
numbers
but
she'll
be
helpful
if
you'd
give
them
to
us
where
we
could
read
them,
because
I
can't
remember
that
much.
That's
firstly,
second
part
of
it.
If
you
know
hey
we're
working
on
it,
but
we
need
you
to
do
something
to
the
ordinance.
What
and
how
long
is
it
going
to
take?
That's
the
next
question.
I
would
ask
them
of
Jacob
and
she'll
just
give
us
to
give
us
what
you
just
told
us,
and
that
way
we
could
digest
it
and
I'm
ready
to
go
next
week.
N
B
K
K
So
with
that
said,
I
think
we
need
enough
case
studies
to
be
able
to
say
we
understand
how
this
works
in
West,
outter,
West,
Ashley
interest,
Ashley,
James,
Island,
John's,
Island,
up
or
downtown
lower,
downtown
and
Daniel
Island
I
want
to
be
able,
as
your
planet
director,
to
tell
you
that
we
understand
the
conditions
around
short-term
rentals
in
each
of
those
different
areas
of
the
city,
because
each
one
is
they're
radically
different.
You
know
because
they
have
different
parking
means.
Those
are
different.
K
K
You
know
with
the
task
force
and
even
with
our
own
staff,
we've
always
said
there
are
things
that
we
can
do
to
modify
this
as
it
goes
forward
that
could
improve
it.
We've
always
been
open
to
that,
but
we
intentionally
drafted
it.
You
know
tight
in
order
to
be
able
to
test
it
then,
and
then
we
can
open
it
up
later,
because
once
you
give
away
property
rights,
they
ride
with
the
property.
You
can't
get
them
back.
Getting
the
genie
back
in
the
bottle,
with
short-term
rentals
is
going
to
be
very,
very
hard.
K
O
Mine's,
a
little
different
I
think
Jakub
know
where
I'm
coming
from
it.
This
I
think
you
know
where
I'm
coming
from
that's
right.
What's
on
the
King
Street
corridor
and
I
mentioned
before
any
apartments
over
a
store
businesses,
that's
not
going
to
take
away
house
and
start.
That's
people
with
the
family
is
not
gonna
live
on
top
of
a
bar
or
a
store
along
the
Kings
baccardo,
and
that's
the
only
thing
I
was
not
talking
about.
Yes,
we're
not
in
your
house
in
the
community,
not
in
the
residential
area.
O
I
was
only
speaking
about
these
apartments
over
a
store
on
the
King
Street
corridor,
just
along
King
Street
and
long
as
they
meet
the
parking
requirements,
and
this
would
I
advise
our
and
dick
without
and
then,
if
we
have
to
modify
it.
I've
modified
include
that
in
there,
because
this
is
what
I
wanted
to
see
a
long
time.
P
I
was
curious
about
the
first
number
I
think
that
you
gave
us
mr.
Lindsay
of
the
ones
that
had
come
in
to
apply
to
be
made
eligible,
and
that
number
was
like
a
little
over
a
hundred
and
you've
done,
maybe
six
or
seven
of
those
so
what's
happening
to
the
other
eighty.
How
fast
do
you
think
you'll
be
able
to
do
them
the
honor
of
processing
them?
It.
K
Seems
to
be
taking
about
two
months
right
now
and
and
during
that
time
some
of
the
certifying
departments
have
been
under
an
extraordinary
workload
and
we
think
that's
gonna
come
off
a
little
bit
as
we
go
into
the
fall,
so
we
may
be
able
to
shorten
the
time
that
it
takes
to
get
through
the
approvals
process
down
to
a
month
and
a
half
or
even
less,
which
is
relatively
low
for
obtaining
a
permit
of
any
type.
But
that
means
a
review
by
building
inspections.
Fire
they
have
to.
K
You
know,
go
through
well,
first
of
all
zoning,
of
course,
then
building
inspections
in
fire
and
they
have
to
submit
a
site
plan
so
that
we
understand
they
can
park
a
car
there
and
people
can
get
out
in
the
event
of
a
fire.
All
the
reviews
of
those
plans
takes
a
little
bit
of
time
without
side.
You
know:
we've
received
102,
we've
worked
through
a
total
of
15
of
those,
and
if
we
can
speed
it
up,
staff
are
getting
better
at
this.
You
know.
K
P
K
Do
not
we
do
not
refined
fees
if
someone
comes
in
and
they
give
us
an
application
that
ultimately
is
denied
their
their
fee
is
not
refunded
to
them.
But
that
said
that
there
are
I'm,
not
the
expert
in
fees.
There
are
multiple
types
of
fees
for
for
an
application,
and
for
this
one
as
well
I
think
there
are
three
different
types.
P
K
Q
Q
K
B
B
R
Q
R
K
Well,
Thank
You
councilmember,
the
staff
are
gonna,
enforce
the
ordinance
it's
on
the
books,
that's
what
they're
gonna
do
I
think
they
can.
You
know
they
got
to
do
what
what
you
all
have
passed
right,
but
that
said,
you
know
we're
tracking
the
information
on
each
individual
case
and
I
think
we
could
look
at
any
kind
of
criteria
related
to
all
the
cases
we've
reviewed
and
bring
that
forward.
K
For
example,
staff
can
say:
let's
look
at
all
the
cases
where
they
had
parking
within
50
or
100
feet,
and
let's
see
how
many
that
was
you
couldn't
you
know,
do
those
negatively
impact
the
neighborhood?
What
would
be
the
effect
of
allowing
those
we
can
look
at
those
cases
and
and
pull
those
out
or
whatever
the
the
issue
may
be?
K
We
got
all
the
information
about
why
they
passed
the
ordinance
or
why
they
don't,
and
we
can
even
do
case
studies
on
individuals
and
look
at
why
they
why
they
were
able
to
qualify
or
why
they
weren't
able
to
qualify
and
get
good
info
back
and
inform
you
all.
So
you
can
make
decisions,
that's
what
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
do.
Yeah
well,.
R
K
The
first
thing
you
do
is
get
our
website.
We
have
all
the
informations
on
there.
We
have
a
great
checklist
that
you
can
get
from
the
website.
You
can
go
through
that
and
look
and
see,
and
in
most
can
determine
just
by
looking
at
the
checklist
whether
they
can
qualify
or
not.
If
that
doesn't
work,
all
you
got
to
do
is
just
call
the
permit
center
downstairs
just
like
any
other
permit,
and
they
will
put
you
in
touch
with
the
correct
person.
K
Eventually,
you'll
probably
get
to
one
of
my
zoning
staff
and
they
can
look
at
your
individual
case
and
they'll
talk
to
you,
but
whether
they
think
you'll
qualify
or
not,
and
if
you
do
you
come
in,
they
give
you
the
official
forms
and
they'll
go
through
it
with
you,
I
mean
I.
Think
so
far,
we've
had
pretty
good
response
from
folks,
even
some
of
the
folks
who
weren't
able
to
qualify
have
told
us,
you
know
the
system
worked
well
and
we
were
able
to
get
good
responses
from
people.
R
P
R
That
wasn't
her
was
another
lady.
She
has
a
condominium
over
there
I'm
some
kind
of
thing.
She
called
me,
and
she
said
that
she
gave
me
the
criteria.
I
said
well:
you're
not
going
to
qualify
and
and
I
told
her
she's
going.
If
she
keeps
advertising
I,
say:
you're
gonna
get
a
letter
for
mr.
reship
and
I
think
it
was
the
next
day
she
got
a
letter.
She
took
a
picture
of
it
and
sent
it
to
him.
He
says
yeah
you're
right.
He
just
wrote
me
so
she
just
kind
of
dropping
out
of
the
system.
R
So
in
talking
with
her
I
guess,
her
feeling
was
that
that
there
was
probably
a
lot
of
people
in
that
complex
that
might
want
to
do
short-term
rentals,
so
the
question
becomes
that
might
be
a
viable
place
to
have
them,
but
because,
because
we're
just
not
allowing
that
they
just
kind
of
fallen
off
the
radar
and
so
they're
just
not
eligible,
and
we
would
never
know
that-
maybe
we
needed
exception
for
that
I'm,
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
right
way
to
do.
All
this
stuff
is
I
know
you
guys
are
struggling.
R
B
S
K
Counselor,
what
that
means
is
that
the
software
has
identified
them
by
looking
out
in
the
internet.
They
see
an
advertisement
and
then
the
staff
have
verified
that
that
advertisement
exists.
So
we
know
that
they
are
out
there
they're
there
operating
a
short-term
rental,
or
at
least
advertising
one
and
the
staff
have
verified
that.
That
is
the
case.
It.
S
The
the
one
thing
about
all
numbers
that
stick
out
to
me
is
that
102
applications
in
last
two
months
seems
kind
of
low,
so
I
was
thinking.
Maybe
we
could
do
some
more
community
outreach
because
believe
it
or
not
a
lot
of
people
don't
come
to
our
meetings
or
listen
to
our
meetings,
and
so
there's
people
that
are
probably
still
doing
it.
S
K
M
M
S
M
Well,
my
guys
are
encountering
the
public
and
in
making
a
case,
and
they
want
help.
We
offer
that
help.
We
we
work
with
them,
put
them
in
touch
with
zoning
to
see
if
they
want
to
go
further,
so
we
are
reaching
out
if
you
will,
and
so
that's
seems
to
be
working
as
well,
and
if
you
notice
the
first
couple
of
weeks
I
think
it
was
like
44
applicants,
but
once
we
started
talking
to
people
it
jumped
up
to
a
hundred,
so
just
educating
them
has
been
helping.
J
K
M
J
K
Little
bit
of
play
in
that,
though,
and
here's
why
some
of
that
of
that
181,
our
historic
beds
and
breakfasts,
who
do
not
use
online
listing
platforms,
they
have
their
own
website
or
some
of
them
are
just
families
that
have
a
house
and
you
call
them.
You
know
they
don't
use
the
online
system.
So
the
numbers
aren't
gonna
exactly
add
up
when
you
factor
in
the
old
pre-existing
B&B,
either
close.
J
M
1297
are
still
with
the
company
taking
the
information
up
for
us.
Okay,
the
lower
number
of
353
is
what
we
have
in
our
lab.
That's
what
it's
going
through
the
process
they're
out
there
they're
checking
them
they
validate
them.
They
send
them
to
us.
We
follow
up
with
warning
letters
background.
We
visit
every
site
to
knock
on
doors.
They
get
as
much
information
as
they
can
to
build.
The
case.
J
M
At
the
rate,
we're
going
need
this
thing.
I,
don't
think
it's
gonna.
Take
that
long.
To
be
honest
with
you,
we
do
at
your
requests
or
some
councilman's
request
was
we
have
contracted
with
a
with
an
attorney.
That's
gonna
be
our
sole
prosecutor.
So
that's
gonna
help
us
with
the
cases
that
we
do
have
now
take
take
into
account
with
due
process
you're
still
going
to
have
those
people
saying
I
want
a
jury.
Trial
I
want
a
continuance
so
we're
you
know
we're
held
at
bay
with
that.
M
J
The
NRC
speed
that
works,
but
in
in
the
case
of
Elliott,
burrows
and
cannon,
follows
the
simplified.
All
we
have
to
do
is
extend
the
overlay
and
it's
my
understanding
that
that
the
neighborhood
wants
that
extend
their
overlay
to
areas
that
are
currently
not
in
their
overlay
zone.
But
they're
connected
okay,
I,
think
beyond
president
freer,
but
somewhere
up
in
there
and
I,
wasn't
sure
every
thought
thinking
about
making
any
changes
to
the
ordinance
whether
or
not
that
came
up,
because
those
who
neighborhood
are
pretty
together
in
terms
of
one
to
allow
others
to
participate.
K
B
A
Thank
you,
mister
men.
Some
of
this
is
gonna,
be
a
repeat.
You
know
we
spoke
about
some
of
these
changes,
mr.
Lindsey
at
least
four
months
ago,
and
we
did
that
pride
when
we
voted
to
pass
what's
in
place
now
we
had
four
or
five
bullet
points
to
amend
the
ordinance
and
we
still
talking
about
those
same
four
or
five.
A
For
example,
if
a
person,
a
person
when
you
rent
out
your
owner-occupied
house,
you
have
to
be
there
that
should
have
been
changed
by
that.
No
one
is
going
to
be
more
concerned
about
the
property
than
the
person
who
has
the
disease,
their
primary
residence.
So
this
thing
about-
and
we
did
this
back
in
April
and
most
may
that's
still
not
part
of
the
ordinance
that
came
the
Planning
Commission
had
that
idea,
which
was
a
very
good
idea,
but
the
taskforce
didn't
pick
up
on.
A
The
part
about
having
dedicated
parking
and
not
being
able
to
move
cars
around
in
a
driveway
right
now,
if
they're
places
that
qualify
but
for
having
to
move
cars
around
in
the
driveway.
We
spoke
about
that
back
in
April
and
May
that
has
not
made
itself
into
the
ordinance
today.
So
when
you
go
out
and
you
try
to
get
your
numbers,
your
numbers
are
gonna,
be
faulty
because
you,
if
those
two
things
were
in
place,
you'd
have
people
that
would
be
eligible
today.
That
could
apply
for
a
permit
permit
on
a
legal
basis.
A
So
when
you
come
back
with
this
numbers-
and
we
all
have
heard
this-
would
computers
garbage
and
is
garbage
out
if
we
put
in
bad
numbers,
we're
gonna
get
bad
numbers,
the
part
about
being
in
a
commercial
district
and
close
proximity
to
a
parking
garage.
That's
what
mr.
moody
was
talking
about.
That's
not
hard
to
write
into
the
ordinance.
That's
not
taking
any
houses
off
of
owner
occupancy
status
in
a
commercial
district
in
close
proximity
to
Farnsworth.
You
would
think
we
would
want
people
to
park
in
a
parking
garage.
A
We've
had
this
conversation
back
in
April
of
me.
I've
had
the
conversation
very
recently
with
legal,
and
maybe
you
can
address
that
and
you
only
had
a
week
or
so
to
look
at
it.
But
but
my
point
are:
there
are
certain
things
right
now
that
we
have
chosen
winners
and
losers
right
now
and
that's
not
fair.
We
passed
the
ordinance
four
or
five
months
ago
faking
some
of
those
and
when
I
voted
I
was
thinking.
Some
of
those
changes
would
be
made
before
it
went
live,
and
now
we
talked
about
having
asking
for
more
time.
A
F
A
A
T
Me
they
got
appreciate
the
meeting.
Yes,
sir
and
I
mean
I
can
make
those
changes.
I
know
I
they're,
not
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting.
That
I
could
certainly
make
the
updates
to
the
ordinance
that
you
requested
and
I
wrote
them
down
again
and
have
them
ready
for
an
agenda
item
in
October.
Thank
you.
Mr.
A
A
A
You
know
court
costs
and
all
of
that
would
be
dedicated
towards
affordable
housing
in
some
of
these
units
are
going
to
take
rental
units
off
of
the
market,
then,
obviously,
hopefully,
if
we
could
develop
a
stream
of
income
off
of
this
revenue,
we
can
help
to
create
affordable
housing.
We
spoke
in
terms
of
that
four
or
five
months
ago.
How
long
did
it
take
to
get
that
incorporated
into
the
business
license
fee?
Oh
that.
A
A
U
Thank
You
mr.
rabbit
I'll
be
brief.
One
of
the
things
that
we
knew
going
into
this
when
we
adopted
disorders
was
there
was
a
disconnect
between
what
we
allowed
and
what
was
going
on
out
there
and
I
think
there
was
a
number
of
people
around
this
table
that
once
we
put
this
ordinance
in
place,
we're
interested
to
see
whether
or
not
Dan
and
his
team
could
actually
deliver
on
what
they
said.
They
could
do,
which
was
come
up
with
a
way
to
go
and
combat
the.
U
What
we
knew
in
our
minds
would
be
illegal
short
term
rentals,
but
to
match
that
up
with
some
hard
evidence
that
could
move
forward
and
bring
back
to
us
and
to
me
the
numbers
that
you've
given
us
tonight
show
that
we
do
once
we
have.
This
ordinance
in
place
have
the
ability
to
identify
with
certainty,
who's
out
there
operating
legally
and
illegally,
and
move
forward
me.
But
I.
U
Remember
in
my
mind,
when
we
first
saw
the
numbers
from
the
Convention
and
Visitors
Bureau,
it
was
about
870
without
were
illegal
on
the
peninsula,
and
then
it
expanded
to
a
number
that
was
almost
twice
that
in
the
city
of
Charleston
and
in
the
short
period
of
time
that
you
all
have
been
up
and
running.
I
think
you've
told
me:
you've
started
at
least
some
form:
an
enforcement
action
against
87.
U
So
that's
either
a
letter
or
summons,
or
all
that
so
that's
somewhere
between
five
and
ten
percent
of
the
stock
of
illegal
that
we
knew
to
be
out
there
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
So
on
the
enforcement
side,
I
feel
comfortable
that
you
all
were
right
and
I
was
probably,
if
not
the
chief
skeptic.
There
was
a
few
others
down
the
end
of
the
table
here,
one
of
the
chief
skeptics.
So
to
me
that
the
software
and
the
and
the
staff
working
on
it
seems
to
be
working.
U
I
will
just
say:
I
know
that
there's
a
meet
some
talk
about
tweaking,
but
I
will
just
tell
you
from
my
perspective
and
from
my
constituency
and
I.
Don't
know
if
all
of
you
have
had
different
experiences:
the
implementation,
the
adoption
implementation
and
how
enforcement
on
this
ordinance
is
very
popular
I've
gotten
if
any
I
can't
think
of
any
complaints.
But
people
like
the
fact
or
out
there
doing
something
about
it.
So
we'll
see
where
this
all
goes.
I
know
that
there's
some
call
for
some
adjustments
but
I
think
just
the
grant
big
big
picture.
U
V
K
V
M
I
mean
you're
talking
one
month,
then
we're
not
look
I
mean
with
what
we
have
now
when
getting
up
and
running
so
within
another
month,
I
sit
at
the
rate
we're
going
having
three
full
time
enforcement
officers
working
on
this
five
days
a
week.
Sometimes
six
then
I
would
say
double
well,
if
not
more
so,.
V
Size
the
second
question
I
have
is
this
is
for
legal,
and
this
goes
back
to
what
Dan
mentioned
earlier.
The
the
problem
with
enforcement
is
that
this
is
a
crumbly
meet
us
into
a
criminal
act
and
because
it's
a
criminal,
I,
certain
constitutional
rights
kick
in
right
to
a
jury
trial,
for
instance,
and
because
it's
a
municipal
court.
V
The
fact
is,
a
last
court
have
any
priority
over
other
courts,
and
so
the
contingencies
are
afforded
to
lawyers
and
to
litigants,
because
it's
on
the
bottom
level
of
that,
what
options
do
we
have
of
taking
this
out
of
the
criminal
proportion?
To
make
this?
A
a
civil
fine
instead
said,
will
help
speed
the
process
of
the
enforcement
collection.
Part
of
all
of
us.
Can
we
do
that?
I.
T
Don't
believe
we
can
do
a
civil,
fine
and
I've
just
never
dealt
with
that
on.
There
keep
in
mind
I'm
new
to
this
side
of
government,
relatively
speaking,
but
I
handled
the
for
Atlantic
Street
case,
for
instance,
and
you
can
get
an
injunction.
The
problem
for
me
with
an
injunction
from
a
Circuit
Court
is
that
you
not
only
have
to
prove
that
they
violated
and
get
the
injunction
to
enforce
the
ordinance.
T
T
And
then
you
have
show
that
they
violated
the
TR
o
and
write
the
in
order
to
import.
You
know
to
get
any
contempt
or
damages
or
clawback,
and
in
that
case
they
settled
out,
and
they
agreed
that
in
the
future
we
would
have
the
ability
to
call
back
any
revenues
that
they
that
they
obtained.
But
you
know
honestly,
if
you
get
a
TR
o,
typically
they're,
not
gonna,
put
the
punish
the
carton.
The
punishment
in
the
TR
o
they're
gonna,
wait
until
there's
contempt,
hearing
and
then
tell
you
what
you're
gonna
get
it.
V
But
if
we
looked
at
a
little
bit
harder
at
the
civil
aspect
of
this
and
may
be
able
to
increase
the
fines
and
it
may
be
able
to
because
once
you
once
you
get
a
TR
o
they've
got
a
stop
that
they
are
temporarily
restrained
from
operating
under
a
civil
mechanism
as
opposed
to
even
if
they're
charged
criminally.
They
can
still
operate.
M
Q
By
this
gentleman
they
told
me
took
the
site
down
to
eat,
but
he
took
it
down.
Oh
Tony,
he
said
you
took
it
down
on
Sunday
I
gotta
put
you
at
eight
people
move
on
and
they
with
suitcases.
So
if
anybody
goes
by
a
sight,
you
saying
it's
illegal
to
just
like
this:
let's
take
a
picture
and
you
get
it
well.
They've
got
to
suck.
They
got
to
contain
citations.
Q
B
O
Include
that
portion
of
those
our
particular
apartments
over
those
stores,
as
I
mentioned,
the
lawn
King
Street
car,
though
that's
the
thing
he
was
missing
in
when
he
first
started.
This
start
the
short
term
real
last
one
thing
I
brought
up
on
council
about
me:
that's
what
the
only
thing
I
brought
up
on
council
about
it
right.
B
J
Mr.
mayor
mayor
and
council
on
September
10th
2018,
the
Recreation
Committee
met
and
we
met
to
discuss
amending
the
code
of
the
city
of
salt
in
South
Carolina,
21,
section
1,
1
3,
to
appeal
the
process
for
public
property
property
to
the
public.
Trespass
notice,
and
someone
just
asked
me
what
that
meant.
J
If,
for
instance,
someone
is
given
a
citation
our
ticket
for
trespassing
and
they
want
to
appeal
it
normally,
they
would
have
to
go
through
the
court
system.
What
this
will
do
is
allow
that
appeal
to
come
before
the
Recreation
Standing
Committee.
In
order
to
make
a
determination,
it
was
voted
on
unanimously
by
the
Recreation,
Committee
and
I
recommended
this
body
does
the
same.
We've.
A
C,
with
the
exception
of
the
Ravenel
Bridge
meant
mitigation,
was
approved
unanimously,
really
would
like
to
call
out
special
attention
to
miss
Laura
cabinets
for
the
updating
of
the
drainage
manual.
I
mean
its
ton
of
work
she
did
and
her
staff
getting
that
done
and
in
place,
and
then,
on
top
of
that
she
had
a
hurricane
to
worry
about
so
kudos,
the
MS
cabinets
and
her
staff.
R
I
just
wanted
a
couple
things
number
one
I
agree
with
you
on
cabinet,
his
cabinets
and
her
staff,
and
they
really
went
after
these
ditches.
Before
I
mean
they
were,
they
were
out
there,
cleaning
them
out
and
I
hate
to
even
mention
this,
but
that
effort
was
Herculean,
but
it
didn't
get
them
all
done.
It's
almost
like
you
know.
If
we
could
keep
that
up
a
little
bit,
we
can
I
mean
if
we
could
stay
that
focus
that
we
had
the
money
to
do
that.
R
R
A
P
Thank
you.
I
would
just
like
to
add
to
mr.
Moody's
comment
about
how
great
it
is
to
have
all
these
ditches,
clean
and
I.
Do
think
that
we
need
to
consider
that
the
city
is
now
taking
on
itself
just
to
make
the
stormwater
system
work
better
cleaning
ditches
that
we
don't
really
have
to
do
for
the
county,
the
state,
so
we've
really
taken
on
a
big
responsibility,
I
think
in
order
to
serve
the
citizens
of
the
neighborhood's
where
we
we
are
operating,
counts.
G
S
Of
want
to
reiterate
what
councilmember
moody
said
only
because
number
one
we've
got
four
more
weeks
of
peak
hurricane
season
and
we're
never
out
of
the
woods
with
all
these
storms
on
the
Atlantic.
We
have
to
just
keep
pushing
forward,
and
if
we
have
to
pretend
that
we
have
one
coming
out
of
says
so
we're
all
on
high
alert,
and
we
can
all
work
together
to
push
that.
S
But
I
think
this
is
another
good
time
to
bring
up
what
we
brought
up
a
few
times
before
that
we
needed
some
sort
of
maintenance
schedule
or
something
that
we
can.
So
we
know
you
know
what
the
priorities
are.
I
know
that
they're
ditches
that
take
more
priority
than
other
ditches
and
some
ditches
that
are
clean
more
regularly
than
others.
But
I
know
that
when
I
reach
out
to
the
department
a
lot
of
times
when
I
put
a
request,
they
go
out
there
the
same
day
and
take
care
of
it.
B
Think
most
cabinets
will
remark
to
that.
We
had
a
number
of
meetings
recently
about
this
issue
and
there
has
been
the
schedule.
That's
been
neighborhood
by
neighborhood
I
think
with
the
number
of
staff.
We
have
doing
those
regularly
scheduled
things
that
when
we
have
those
quote
emergency,
you
know
on-call
things
that
it
does,
you
know,
can
mess
up
the
regular
schedule.
One
thing
that
we
are
moving
forward
to
do
you
know
our
GIS
department
has
really
been
doing
all
kind
of
great
stuff.
B
In
fact,
I
really
want
to
put
a
spotlight
on
the
work
that
the
GIS
folks
did
with
all
our
hurricane
preparedness
there's
more
to
come
on
that,
but
they
are
putting
together
GIS
tracking
of
our
ditch
maintenance
system
and
whose
ditches
whose
and
how
and-
and
one
of
these
things
that
when
it's
developed
I,
don't
think
it'll
take
a
long
time.
But
when
it's
develop
I
mean
even
our
citizens
will
be
able
to
pull
up
online.
It
will
be
transparent
and
information
that
the
public
can
see,
but.
L
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I
also
wanted
to
mention
and
thank
Miss
cabinets
and
also
mister
krons
Berg
for
the
care
they
took
with
Lake
daughter
or
in
draining
that
if
we
had
had
a
substantial
storm
it
may
have
saved
some
flooding
issues
along
that
Lake
daughter
area
and
they
work
well
together
now,
I
know:
we've
got
some
more
work
and
some
things
that
I'm
gonna
ask
for
for
Lake,
daughter
down
the
road,
but
but
I
wanted
to
thank
Miss
cabinets
and
thank
mr.
Franck
Berg.
L
U
Quickly,
on
top
of
what
councilmember
Sealy
said,
the
lowing
of
the
lakes
was
great
and
Clooney
liked
being
one
of
them.
I
did
see
mr.
Khan's
burg
out
there
as
we're
trying
to
get
the
water
back
in
the
lake
and
the
the
the
valve.
There
is
hand
cranked,
and
he
told
me
how
many
turns
it
took
to
get
that
thing
back
in
place,
looks
like
247
turns
of
the
crank
to
get
it
back
in
place
to
open,
so
the
waters
could
come
back
into
the
lake
and
mr.
Koz
burg
did
it
alone.
U
B
Getting
a
motor
for
that,
okay,
I,
don't
think
we
voted
yet
on
the
acceptance
for
the
Public
Works
Committee.
Any
other
discussion
on
that
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
next
committee
on
ways
and
means
got
a
a
motion
to
approve
the
Committee
on
ways
and
means
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
exes
our
bills
up
for
second
reading.
R
The
the
first
five
were
on
our
agenda
before
and
they
deal
with
this
Upper
Peninsula
zoning
and
also
with
this
height
district
classification,
those
five
and
then
number
six
was
added
I'm,
not
sure
it
was
not
on
the
last
agenda,
but
it
was
on
this
one,
but
all
of
them
have
to
do
with
that
effort.
Peninsula
and
I
had
some
concerns
about
that.
Upper,
Peninsula,
basically
I
think
mr.
councilman
Mitchell
that's
his
district.
R
Some
of
this
is
in
and
I
was
I
thought
we
were
going
to
have
some
kind
of
an
update
or
a
briefing
or
something
all
that
Upper
Peninsula,
because
I
don't
think
that
to
me
it
hadn't
been
it
completely
aired
and
then
I
sit
back
on
the
agenda.
We
deferred
it
because
mr.
Mitchell
was
not
here
at
the
last
meeting,
but
then
we,
but
it's
back
on
and
I
hadn't
gotten
any
update,
I
was
concerned
about
the
affordable
housing
and
some
of
these
trade-offs
that
we
were
given
to
me
didn't
make
a
lot
of
sense.
R
The
one
that
I
would
mention
right
off
was
it
if
you
had
some
kind
of
a
secured
bicycle
rack
that
you
got
some
additional
height
or
something,
and
to
me
the
fact
that
we
have
the
storage
capacity
to
me
that
didn't
make
a
lot
of
sense.
What
you
should
say
is:
if
you
have
a
car,
you
ought
to.
You
know
if
you're
going
to
have
to
have
parking
space
or
you
shouldn't,
have
parking
spaces
in
that
property
period,
and
then
you
could
maybe
get
some
some
height
restriction
or
some
additional
capacity.
B
K
That's
exactly
correct
and
we
have
discussing
amendments
to
the
UPS
zoning
that
came
first
to
you,
and
then
it
went
to
the
Community
Development
Committee.
We
are
set
to
brief
the
CD
Committee
because
of
it
in
its
a
matter
that
relates
primarily
to
affordable
housing,
that
effort
to
amend
the
U
P
ordinance
now,
as
with
the
CV
Committee
and
is
a
totally
separate
matter
from
these
rezoning
's.
Yes,
they
are
using
the
U
P
category,
but
this
is
a
property
rezoning.
K
R
B
R
P
Think
the
concern
is,
you
know
how
much
do
we
want
the
affordable
housing
component
that
is
going
to
be
radically
improved
if
we
would
go
forward
with
the
changes
to
the
Upper
Peninsula
zoning
that
we've
now
essentially
deferred,
we
didn't
have
it
on
the
CD
agenda
this
past
time,
so
I
don't
know
when
we're
bringing
it
back
and
if
we
are
bringing
it
back.
What
are
we
gonna
do
at
the
CP
committee
that
we
can't
do
it?
The
council.
O
P
Agree
with
you
I
think
that
there
are
properties.
Now
that
are
you
know,
reading
about
the
changes
proposed
in
the
Upper
Peninsula
zoning
and
hurrying
up
to
get
grandfathered
into
the
existing
one
that
they
think
they
can
work
with
better.
So
I
I
am
concerned
about
having
all
of
these
items
now
grandfathered
out
of
it
changes
we
would
make
for
you
P.
You.
K
That
we'll
come
back
to
that
the
next
meeting
of
the
CD
committee.
It
didn't
come
to
the
last
one
because
we
actually
moved
it
up
in
order
to
accommodate
the
lytec
deadline
for
the
other
matter
that
we
were
reviewing.
That
will
come
back
at
the
next
meeting
of
the
Community
Development
Committee.
All.
A
Thank
You
mr.
milk,
when
we
voted
at
not
the
last
CD
meeting
community
development
meeting.
At
that
time,
we
deferred
to
Upper
Peninsula
changes
for
better,
affordable
housing
initially,
and
when
that
came
fault,
when
these
properties
came
forward
and
councilmembers,
Luis
and
Mitchell
were
not
at
the
last
meeting,
that's
very
deferred
this,
the
property
on
King,
Street
extension.
Despite
a
body
shop,
it.
A
Yeah
and
there's
one
right
next:
do
it
to
it:
that's
right:
singleton
body
shop,
that's
close
to
the
silver
Hill
area.
Over
there
you
put
an
eight-story
building
over
there.
You
change
in
you
change
in
that
community
drastically
and
right
now
on
the
U
P.
If
I'm
correct,
these
people
can
eventually
put
potentially
anyway
an
eight-story
apartment
complex.
You
know
what
or
whatever
they
can
go
up.
Eight
stories
and
I
think
we
need
to
really
think
about
doing
it
on
that.
A
O
The
Mahmoud
Street
knowledge
behind
there
right
and
you
have
a
small
community.
Goodman
Smith,
you
have
a
small
community
behind
there.
There's
a
single
family
homes,
that's
all
behind
there,
it's
all
its
back
there,
but
so,
even
with
that
tall
building
with
fit
therapists,
it's
approved
to
go
there.
It's
gonna
block
that
whole
area
from
benches,
because
you
have
you
habit
of
the
poised
manner
on
the
corner,
and
you
won't
have
that
they've
on
a
block
pimp
completely
because
you
have.
O
S
A
F
O
I
was
looking
at
a
little
differently
on
Morrison's
vibe
Morrison
driver
to
hop
hi
hi.
You
know,
that's
the
new,
the
new
area,
that's
gonna,
be
hi
hi
split
when
he
cut
when
he
came
to
that
little
area.
There
I
don't
know
exactly
what
was
going
to
be
built.
Ii
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
I
was
going
to
be
built,
see
and
that's.
What's
the
problem
now
you're
gonna
build
that
hi.
There
I
think
that
no
community
back
they're
gonna
have
a
big
fight.
It's
gonna,
be
a
big
fight.
O
If
you
make
I,
don't
know
if
the
four
story
building
will
look
better,
I
don't
know,
but
it's
really
building.
What
would
you
change
that
varies
dramatically
on
that
corner,
because
right
on
the
corner,
I've
been
interest
that
they
turn
into
go
in
there
and
you
have
a
novice
Street
that
you're
going
up
got
named
above
the
street,
but
I
don't
think
that's
going
on
council.
P
Think
in
response
to
that,
mr.
Mitchell,
maybe
we
should
ask
mr.
Lindsey
to
give
us
a
little
primer,
but
basically
these
two
items
in
tandem
would
be
giving
each
of
these
properties
the
chance
to
go
up
to
a
12
story
height
if
they,
if
they
earned
all
of
the
high
credits
that
they
needed
under
the
existing
ordinance,
they
could
be
there.
So
I
think
that
is
the
the
question
of
the
evening.
S
R
O
One
through
six
discs,
it
does
the
same
thing
that
I
wasn't
here.
So
let
me,
let
me
make
sure
I
get
in
touch
with
the
people
there
and
let
them
come
out
because
I
don't
need
that
profit.
It's
gonna,
be
a
big
problem.
They're
great
the
way
is
set
up.
The
net
finitary
Morrison
draw
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
because
that's
what's
going,
but
this
is
a
different
awesome.
Different
color
going
on
Kingston
all.
T
401
is
asking
for
a
rezoning
to
you
P
and
my
understanding
from
the
applicant
is
it's
already
zoned
for
twelve
height
district
front,
that
is,
that
has
that
had
been
approved
and
finalized,
because
it's
Morrison
time
it
doesn't
really
make
sense
that
they
would
be
zoned
for
twelve
without
AUP
zoning.
This.
K
This
kind
of
gets
into
it
and
arcane
component
that
I'd
probably
rather
not
go
down
this
road,
but
with
the
four
twelve
height
district,
it
only
goes
with
the
U
P
use
district
and
the
two
things
need
to
go
together
in
order
to
function.
So
in
order
to
have
that
property,
totally
rezone
dit
will
need
both
its
height
designation
and
its
rezoning
to
to
base
use
district
to
its.
U
P
in
order
for
it
to
work
so,
ideally,
I'm
sure
that
the
landowner
would
prefer
it
for
both
things
to
be
acted
upon.
B
O
O
O
B
U
Sinking
just
very
quickly,
I
mean
III.
Here,
councilmember
metro
wants
to
defer
to
talk
to
the
neighborhoods
in
which
these
properties
are
going
to
be
look
that
are
located
just
as
a
matter
of
procedure.
This
is
probably
for
our
legal
team.
The
Upper
Peninsula
zoning
district
is
an
opt-in
district.
When
we
actually
drafted
it
up,
we
went
notice
all
those
properties
you
can
opt-in
or
you
could
take
the
base.
Only
you
had
those
are
the
two
choices
you
had
right.
Sorry,
all
these
people,
opt-in.
U
T
I
would
say
it's
not
a
site-specific
development
plan,
it's
a
rezoning.
So
the
fact
that
rezoning
sort
of
like,
if
you
rezone,
is
r1
and
they
change
SR
one
subsequently
SR
one
with
the
new
SR
one
would
still
apply
so
absent
them
obtaining
a
permit
and
obtaining
a
vested
right.
They
would
be
bound
by
the
new
U,
P,
ordinance
and
I.
T
P
P
K
The
same
idea
applies
of
course,
however,
I
believe
that
the
applicants
have
in
fact
submitted
to
our
technical
review
committee,
a
site-specific
plan
which
would
vest
them
at
the
previous,
the
existing
U
P
ordinance.
So
unless
they
significantly
modify
their
plan,
they
would
be
vested
into
the
existing
ordinance
and.
P
B
O
B
A
B
We'll
have
a
motion
to
approve,
gives
second
reading
to
items
5
through
20
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
now
for
third
reading
and
ratification.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes
habit
so
next
bills
up
for
first
reading,
actually
just
to
do
a
little
housekeeping.
Here
we
have
three
items:
5
6,
7,
that
we
have
requests
for
various
reasons
to
be
withdrawn.
B
U
Week
this
very
severe
this
appease
property.
That's
in
my
districts
on
King
Street,
it's
right
on
the
corner
of
just
south,
the
corner
of
King
in
Calhoun,
and
if
you
look
at
this
property
from
the
street,
you
don't
realize
what's
behind
you,
but
it's
a
long
building
that
is
literally
locked
on
every
single
side
of
that
building.
There's
no
way
to
get
in
and
out
of
it
other
than
through
the
front.
There's
no
parking,
there's
never
gonna
be
any
parking.
U
It's
a
building,
that
is
to
say
the
least
in
disrepair,
and
we
have
been
agonizing
over
what
to
do
with
this
property
for
a
long
time
it
changed
the
current
developer.
An
owner
wants
to
upgrade
it
add
some
units,
it's
perfect
for
student
housing,
it's
right
on
the
edge
of
the
campus
and
what
has
slowed
up
this
process
dramatically
and
increased
the
cost
of
the
owner
of
this
building.
To
get
something
going.
To
put
this
property,
I
mean
it
is
bad
repair
and
it
needs
to
be
in
good
repair.
U
Is
the
whole
debate
about
whether
or
not
we
need
to
park
that
property
such
to
the
point
where
it
ended
up
in
litigation?
One
of
the
things
I'd
ask
mr.
Lindsay
to
look
at
in
the
wake
of
the
settlement
of
this
matter,
which
went
through
the
zoning
process.
They
were
not
approved
for
their
request,
I
think
mr.
Walker,
there
was
a
request
to
basically
other
than
the
60
grandfather
parking
spaces
to
not
ask
for
any
more.
The
resolution
was
60
plus
13.
W
Good
evening
council,
my
name
is
Trenton
Walker
and
I
represented
the
property
owner
and
first
I
want
to
thank
councilman
seeking
for
shepherding
us
through
this
process,
and
this
is
about
the
third
time
it's
been
for
you,
but
anyway
the
property
is
grandfathered
for
60
spaces.
It's
on
King
Street.
It's
never
had
any
parking,
never
will
have
any
parking.
U
U
We
have
to
look
at
some
form
of
overlay
for
student
housing
or
for
something
that
allows
people
to
build
in
the
dense
areas
without
having
these
completely
owners
parking
requirements
that
put
a
burden
on
the
community
as
well
as
the
owner
of
the
building,
because
this
building,
if
we
don't
approve
this
tonight,
is
going
to
eventually
fall
in
it
is
as
bad
as
it
gets
on
the
peninsula,
and
it's
it's
shameful.
So
we
need
to
work
on
this
I'm.
U
U
P
Along
with
your
request,
mr.
tipping's
and
councillor
were
seeking
zijn
yes
for
this.
One
I
would
think
that
going
back
to
the
challenges
that
we
talked
about,
though,
at
the
Transportation
Committee
earlier
in
the
year
as
the
parking
requirements
were
changing
and
we
were
inundated
with
college
students
and
their
parents
about
where
are
they
going
to
park
their
cars?
P
U
And
that's
why
we
need
an
overlay
zone,
that's
going
to
take
amongst
us
or
others.
The
cooperation
of
the
College
of
Charleston,
who
has
had
a
bit
of
an
epiphany
lately
with
some
things
that
have
been
going
on,
is
looking
for
some
cooperation
from
the
city.
The
good
news
is
for
this
property
it's
under
parked,
but
right
in
front
of
it
as
a
car.
To
stop
so
I
mean,
and
it's
right
on
campus.
This
thing
yeah,
so
I
would
I
would
ask
the
support
of
my
fellow
council
members
of
this.
We.
B
B
E
There
was
an
amendment
to
the
stormwater
design
manual
for
Church
Creek
that
was
sent
to
you
all
on
Sept
under
separate
cover.
Okay,
however,
laura.and.steve
had
one
minor
change
to
make
to
that
which
they
laid
on
your
desks
tonight
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
the
version
that
you
were
approving
and
Steve's
here,
and
he
can
explain
the
change
if
you
need
it,
but
again,
for
the
record.
B
U
Mr.
mayor,
just
for
council
members
on
Thursday
at
noon,
there
is
going
to
be
a
public
gathering
and
forum
on
the
Blue
Zones
project
where
the
Blue
Zones
founders-
that's
gonna,
be
here.
We
unanimously
voted
to
endorse
this
project,
which
is
going
to
be
privately
funded.
If
it
all
works
right,
there's
been
some
press
on
it,
some
good
some
bad,
some
accurate
some.
Not
so.
U
B
Surfs
at
12
noon,
Charlestown
Landing,
councilmember
Griffin
we
haven't
yet
I-
think
bottom
clerk
was
going
to
pull
folks
for
four
days,
but
we
will
do
that.
So
our
next
regular
meeting
is
next
Tuesday
at
five
o'clock
at
Bishop
gansan
right
we're
not
going
to
be
here
at
City
Hall.
So
we're
going
to
be
away
from
City
Hall
next
week,
any
further
business
to
become
before
us
this
evening.
Hearing
none!
We
stand
adjourned.