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City of Charleston Council Meeting - October 23, 2018
C
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
tonight
I
have
asked:
pastor,
will
plunked
from
the
great
city
church
to
come.
Join
us
it's
a
new
congregation
in
West
Ashley.
He
grew
up
in
Charleston
and
moved
away
in
his
back
to
be
part
of
this
church,
and
it's
been
really
great
so
far,
brand-new.
So
he's
going
to
lead
us
an
invocation.
D
All
right,
let's
pray,
God
we
come
before
you
this
evening
and
recognize
that
every
person
in
this
room
derives
their
name
from
you,
you're
their
source,
you're,
our
source
of
life
of
breath.
You
make
our
heartbeat,
you
give
us
creativity
and
even
personality,
so
Jesus.
We
are
thankful
for
that
that
you
created
the
world
and
not
just
wound
it
up
and
spun
it
into
existence
to
let
it
fall
into
chaos.
But
you
did
it
intentionally
strategically
and
out
of
love
so
God.
D
Because
of
what
you've
done,
and
we're
also
thankful
that
you
entrust
us
with
the
task
of
making
the
world
look
better.
The
way
that
you
would
have
it
look.
So
please
God
for
the
leaders,
the
men
and
the
women
in
this
room.
We
pray
that
they
would
realize
the
weight
and
the
responsibility
of
the
task
that
you've
entrusted
them
with,
but
also
simultaneously.
D
B
So
welcome
everyone
this
evening
and
in
the
very
very
unlikely
event
that
we
would
need
to
exit
the
building
from
this
room.
We
have
these
two
exit
doors,
there's
also
an
exit
door
from
the
room
to
my
right.
Upstairs
y'all
just
got
that
one
door
up
there
and
if
that
were
to
occur,
please
do
not
use
the
elevator
but
use
the
two
stairways
going
down
to
the
first
floor
and
the
one
stair
going
out
in
the
front
in
that
most
unlikely
event
that
we
would
have
to
exit
the
building.
B
So
I
want
to
welcome
councilmember
Gregory
back.
It
took
him
a
little
longer
to
get
back
from
our
trip
to
the
Netherlands
I
think
he
got
lost
over
there
on
the
continent
somewhere,
and
he
was
sharing
with
me
just
prior
to
the
meeting
that
he
was
in
Paris
and
he
intended
to
make
his
way
over
to
London,
but
he
never
made
it.
B
But
fortunately,
we've
announced
why
you
were
gone,
that
we
have
now
a
direct
flight
from
Charleston
to
London
that
will
be
starting
next
year,
so
you'll
be
able
to
get
there
easily
from
Charleston
and
I
want
to.
Thank
a
number
of
council
members
came
this
past
Saturday.
We
had
a
remarkable
community
gathering
over
in
Carolina
Bay
out
an
outer
West
Ashley
with
the
opening
of
our
brand-new
fire
station
number
16,
and
it
is
a
beauty
if
I
may
say
so.
B
So,
thanks
to
our
fire
department
and
our
capital
projects
team
and
everybody
wood
that
was
involved
in
getting
that
and
City
Council
for
the
resolve
to
get
that
fire
station
built,
it
is
really
a
first-class
station.
So
we
have
one
proclamation
to
make
this
evening.
I
want
to
invite
Kelsey
Locklear
with
the
American
Cancer
Society
to
join
me
as
we
recognize
that
October
is
Breast.
Cancer
Awareness
Month
welcome
Kelsey.
How
are
you
so
you
can
step
on
up
and
I'll
read
this
for
you.
You
want
to
make
a
brief
remark.
That's
fine!
B
So
the
proclamation
is
that,
whereas
breast
cancer
is
the
most
common
form
of
cancer
found
in
women
in
the
United,
States
and
second
leading
cause
of
de
cáncer
death
for
women,
the
first,
the
five-year
survival
rate
for
breast
cancer
patients
is
much
higher
when
diagnosed
at
an
early
stage.
So
early
diagnosis
is
really
critical.
B
Thank
you
so
much
all
right.
All
right.
We
have
a
number
of
public
hearings
this
evening.
Folks
would
like
to
limit
any
comments
at
the
public
hearing.
If
you
would
to
two
minutes,
the
first
one
up
is
just
to
get
public
input.
Regarding
our
proposed
2019
city
budget,
we
had
a
presentation
to
City
Council
at
our
last
meeting
regarding
the
city
city
budget.
I.
Don't
think
we
have
another
presentation
at
this
point,
we're
just
going
to
ask
for
any
input
from
the
public.
Would
anyone
like
to
be
heard
on
this
matter?
Yes,
sir.
F
According
to
judge
seymour
across
the
street
Anthony
G
Brian
2120
Cortland,
Avenue,
Shawn,
Salina,
nine,
four,
zero,
three
and
I
want
to
talk
about
an
ad.
The
communication,
Decency
Act
me
on
TV
the
community
with
obscenity,
hate,
speech,
defamatory
speech
and
construe.
The
protective
speech,
but,
what's
not
said,
is
that
your
internet
provider
is
exempt
exempt
from
any
civil
liability
based
fund.
Any
things
has
been
saying
so.
Therefore,
the
federal
authorities
are
supposed
to
protect.
F
G
Good
evening
I'm
Susan
Lions
with
groundswell,
which
is
the
homeowners
organization,
a
grassroots
group
that
represents
homeowners,
who
have
been
flood
damaged
and
storm
damaged
over
the
last
several
years.
We
got
a
little
lucky
this
year.
We
dodged
two
bullets
so
far,
but
I
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity
since
you're
thinking
about
the
budget
to
really
get
creative
about
money
for
flooding.
G
I
think
that
all
the
issues
that
gel
deal
with
are
very
important,
but
they
will
all
get
washed
away
if
we
get
flooded
away
so
I'm
just
making
an
appeal
that
you
get
real
creative
with
flooding
and
find
more
money
than
in
the
past
for
mitigation
prevention
and
temporary
prevention
until
we
get
a
good
permanent
protection
and
let
in
place.
Thank
you
thank.
H
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
address
Council
today.
My
name
is
Alyssa
Leto
and
I'm
Director
of
Charleston
pro
bono
legal
services
as
a
nonprofit
that
provides
civil
legal
aid
to
low
income
families.
Here
in
the
city
of
Charleston,
we
recently
submitted
a
grant
request
for
your
review
and
consideration
sensitive
to
time
constraints
and
your
agenda
this
evening.
I
will
keep
my
remarks
brief.
H
Charleston
pro
bono
is
a
local
nonprofit
located
just
down
the
street
on
Church
Street
has
been
serving
the
residents
the
city
of
Charleston
since
2004
our
predecessor,
the
neighborhood
legal
assistance
program,
was
incorporated
in
1967
over
the
years.
We've
been
fortunate
enough
to
receive
funding
from
the
city
of
Charleston,
and
we
had
proven
to
be
good.
Stewards
of
these
funds.
In
fact,
grant
funding
provided
by
the
city
of
Charleston
in
2017,
provided
the
necessary
seed
money
for
our
organization
to
create
a
full-time
attorney
position
dedicated
to
housing
related
issues.
H
We
listened
to
our
community
heard
the
need
and
our
addressing
their
concerns.
This
year
we
are
seeking
funding
to
host
educational
outreach
clinics
at
various
nonprofit
and
community
sites
throughout
the
city
of
Charleston.
These
outreach
initiatives
will
provide
educational
materials
and
programs
to
the
city's
low-income
residents
about
their
legal
options.
Example
topics
include
landlord
tenant,
family
estate
planning
and
kinship
caregivers.
The
demand
for
low
income,
the
demand
for
no-cost
or
low-cost
legal
aid
currently
exceeds
available
resources
here
in
the
city
of
Charleston.
H
We
know
this
is
a
problem
because
we're
hearing
from
the
judiciary
and
court
personnel
about
a
market
increase
in
pro
se
litigants,
but
when
advocate
prepared,
these
litigants
are
able
to
effectively
represent
themselves
throughout
the
court
process
it
properly
educated
on
their
respective
rights
and
responsibilities.
Our
community
would
be
in
a
much
better
position
to
help
level.
The
playing
field
advocate.
H
Excuse
me
and
fight
injustice,
Supreme,
Court,
justice,
Hugo
black
in
1964,
said
there
could
be
no
equal
justice
where
the
kind
of
trial
a
man
gets
depends
on
the
amount
of
money
he
has.
There
is
such
a
thing
as
the
justice
gap,
and
these
outreach
educational
programs
will
go
a
long
way
in
bridging
that
gap.
Ty
and.
A
B
I
City
budget
I
am
a
resident
being
flooded
multiple
times,
I
had
to
flee
the
city
for
the
past
two
years
to
come.
Repair
a
dock
on
demand
wondering,
after
the
other,
because
my
street,
the
street
next
door
to
Street
down
where
90
percent
90
percent
90
percent
feel
club
never
been
cleaned
up
almost
since
the
times
was
drained
I've
been
installed.
I'm
tired
of
this
I
would
like
the
budget
to
include
a
fair
presentation.
I
What
the
flood
mitigation
will
be
in
downtown
West
Ashley
wherever,
but
you
need
to
really
have
a
clear
flood
attempt
for
any
part
of
the
city
that
needs
it
with
operation
maintenance,
infrastructure
and
if
you
have
to
take
fat
person,
cuts
weld
all
the
departments
of
the
city.
You
should
do
it
because
that's
in
earth
and
my
neighbors
have
an
inner
of
this
incompetency.
All
of
you,
your.
B
J
Morgan
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
members
of
council.
This
is
a
piece
of
property
at
the
corner.
As
the
mayor
said,
of
meeting
Street
Road
and
Cummington
Avenue,
it's
about
a
quarter
acre
of
land.
The
request
is
to
rezone
from
light
industrial
and
the
two
and
a
half
to
three
and
a
half
or
excuse
me,
and
the
two
and
a
half
story
district
to
the
4:12
height
district
in
the
city,
to
orient
you
to
the
site.
This
is
meeting
Street
Road
running
roughly
north-south.
J
J
F
Same
address
since
since
the
Army
Corps
today's
is
coming
in
to
do
a
fifty
year.
Three
year
study
fifty
years
too
late,
because
again,
those
are
also
created
in
nineteen
sixty
sixty
eight
and
seventy
three.
So
the
question
is,
as
you
do
your
zonings
as
you
do
your
zonings
you're,
adding
you're,
adding
something
water
you're,
adding
something
you
don't
know
what
you're
adding
you're,
not
experts
to
do
know
that,
but
you're
at
is
something
that,
under
the
old
rules
you're
supposed
to
be
concerned
about
the
floodplains
you
can
vote
on.
F
K
Good
evening
my
name
is
sherry.
Brown
and
I
am
with
the
applicant
just
wanted
to
state
for
the
record
that
we
don't
believe
this
property
should
be
any
higher
than
four
stories:
architectural
II.
We
don't
feel
that
it
would
deem
fit
for
that
area,
and
we've
also
stated
this
point
on
the
record
with
the
Planning
Commission
Thank
You.
B
L
Is
how
big
is
this
piece
of
property,
and
the
question
really
is
you've
got
to
be
able
to
park
it
and
you've
got
to
be
able
to
do
some
other
things
to
it.
So
you're
not
going
to
be
able,
even
if
it's
allowed
12
stories
unless
it's
combined
with
a
lot
of
other
property.
There's
no
way
you
could
go
that
high.
How
high
could
you
go
on
this
and
properly
Park.
J
M
J
M
Oh,
he
did
so
when
I
walked
it
and
I
spoke
with
him
a
long
time.
They
said
now,
I
know
if
we
were
doing
the
Upper
Peninsula,
but
Isis
be
working
on
that
getting
ready,
reckoner
Upper
Peninsula,
because
we
are
looking
for
more
affordable
housing.
Peace
in
this
area,
so
I
said
now
in
that
area
we
look
at
their
prove
it.
That's
not
gonna
be
over
four
stories
period,
and
so
he
went
in
to
try
and
commission
and
that's
what's
gonna
be
full
story.
It's
not
gonna
be
twelve
story.
It's
not
gonna,
be
a
story.
M
It's
only
gonna
be
post
or
is
there
so
in
that
area
wrong
in
the
area?
You'll
see
nothing
else
there.
When
you
go
up
the
street
theater
yeah,
there's
a
church
right
there
up
the
street
from
it,
which
is
the
the
kingdom
hall
right
up
the
street
from
it.
So
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
this
night.
That's
why
I
like
with
the
to
prove
it
in
that
sense
that
they
should
be
called
the
state
council.
N
You
III
totally
appreciate
and
I
consulted
councilmember
Mitchell
about
his
wisdom
on
burning
favorably
for
this
rezoning,
so
based
on
the
fact
that
it
is
a
very
small
parcel
and
the
applicant
has,
you
know,
stated
publicly
that
that
they
intend
to
build
the
at
the
lowest
height
level
possible
for
this
zoning,
but
I
do
feel
responsible
to
at
least
be
on
record
in
in
this
setting
that,
overall,
we
are
actively
planning
to
change
the
criteria
by
which
we
would
approve
more
density
and
more
height
for
the
Upper
Peninsula
properties.
N
That
are,
you
know
currently
zoned
you
pee
and
most
likely
will
continue
to
have
a
lot
of
rezoning
changes
to
that
designation.
Based
on
the
you
know,
the
increase
interest
in
demand
for
for
development
in
this
part
of
Charleston
and
I'm
I'm
an
ardent
supporter
of
making
sure
that
everything
we
build.
There
has
the
potential
to
have
as
much
housing,
affordability
as
possible
and
even
small
business
affordability.
N
I,
don't
think
we've
gotten
into
that
kind
of
regulation
discussion
yet,
but
I
do
feel
that
if
this
were
a
bigger
property
and
they
would
have
more
potential
to
get
inside
the
UPI's
owning
ahead
of
our
making
changes
where
we're
going
to
value
the
affordability
piece
for
our
criteria,
that
I
might
have
to
vote.
You
know
against
this
because
I
do
feel
like
we
really
do
need
to
change
that
yupi
zoning
to
be
what
we
want
it
to
be.
N
M
That
they'd
be
gonna
have
all
that
coming
to
the
community
bells
meeting
on
Thursday
dealing
with
the
Upper
Peninsula
and
making
sure
that'd
be
good
enough
to
put
affordable
housing
in
those
particular
arm.
Edmondson
with
these
are
high-density
building
so
we'll
be
addressing
that
on
Thursday,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
this
property
is
going
to
be
approved
because
it's
not
going
up
to
twelve
stories
is
not
going
to
a
full
stories
if
it
was
going
over
four
stories.
I
would
not
even
support
at
this
time,
so
I
mean
that
I'm
adamant
about
that.
M
O
You
mr.
mayor,
thank
you,
miss
Jackson
and
councilman
Mitchell
and
mayor
about
the
affordable
housing
work
that
we
need
to
add
to
upper
peninsula,
because
that
was
gonna
be
one
of
my
questions,
mr.
Morgan
hypothetically.
Yes,
if
they
were
to
acquire
additional
properties
which
will
enable
them
to
part,
could
they
go
about
four
storeys.
J
You
know
if
a
site
can
be
parked
it
can
meet,
whatever
density
is
allowed
for
the
site,
so
the
if
this
is
approved,
the
site
would
allow
for,
with
the
proper
incentives
met
through
the
Upper
Peninsula
zoning
more
height
than
four
storeys,
if
it
if
it
can
meet
the
criteria
of
the
Upper
Peninsula
district,
but
as
we
discussed
in
councilmember
Moody's
question,
you
know
this
particular
site
would
be
tough
to
be
able
to
achieve.
Although
I
understand.
O
N
You
councilmember
wearing
your
your
question
leads
me
to
another
thought
that,
yes,
if
this
property
were
to
be
combined
with
contiguous
properties
in
light
of
our
vested
rights,
ongoing
challenges,
what
what
is
what
would
be
the
ruling
if
this
property
were
zoned
under
the
current
set
of
regulations
and
criteria?
For
u
P
and
then,
and
you
know
they
join
forces
with
an
adjoining
property
that
still
needs
to
be
zone.
U
P?
How
would
we
deal
with
that
as
far
as
a
grandfathered
and
grandfathered
out
set
of
criteria
until.
J
They've
submitted
a
site-specific
development
plan,
which
they
can't
do
until
the
zoning
is
in
place.
The
crime,
whatever
set
of
regulations,
is
in
place
when
they've
submitted
that
site-specific
development
plan.
That's
what
would
apply
so
if
their
changes
may
tune
to
the
Upper
Peninsula
district,
then
those
would
apply
here
if
they
haven't
submit
a
site-specific
development
plan
have.
B
M
J
Yes,
sir,
so
yes,
these
are
all
the
same
ownership
group.
The
first
one
III
is
formerly
the
marsh
Sokol
site.
It's
at
the
corner
of
King
and
Reid
in
this
location.
Here
you
see
some
of
the
surrounding
zonings
of
the
MU
to
workforce
housing,
which
is
what's
being
requested
for
all
these
parcels,
going
from
G
B
to
MU
to
workforce
housing.
In
this
image.
You
see
this
sites
on
bull
Street
on
Reed
Street
over
to
Wall
Street.
J
B
All
right
so
I'm
advised
that
I
should
clearly
state
all
the
addresses
that
are
involved
in
these
three
matters
and
they
would
be
510
King
Street
and
these
addresses
are
all
Reed,
Street,
being
84
86,
88
90
and
92
Reed
Street,
33,
35
and
37
Wolfe
Street,
also
on
King
Street
number
5,
35
and
166
st.
Phillip
Street.
Would
anyone
like
to
be
heard
on
this
matter
regarding
any
of
those
properties?
Yes,
sir.
F
Since
I
was
on
the
corner,
mr.
C
consider
and
point
of
personal
privilege,
he
told
me
to
be
quiet,
I,
don't
know
why
he
told
me
that,
but
I
must
speak
now,
okay,
so
the
question
simply
is
this:
under
the
1974
Housing
and
Community
Development
Act
in
1974,
the
question
is:
was
all
these
census
tracts
used
to
draw
in
investments
investments
into
this
area
for
intended
beneficiaries
ever
housing?
My
housing
director
here
about
Dudley,
Gregory
and
and
and
and
and
and
as
federal
law,
was
supposed
to
provide
for
the
intended
benefits
raised.
F
Who
was
there
during
that
time
and
it
census
tracts
are
being
used?
I,
don't
know
if
the
applicant
I
think
they're
great
people
I
think
they
got
a
great
project.
But
the
question
is
what
this
council
is
you're,
not
being
accountable
to
the
passes
that
you
need
to
create
deposit.
We
have
right
now,
that's
gonna,
be
on
the
record
with
me
forever.
This
is
an
abuse
of
how
community
of
dollars
were
used
in
the
past
I
by
the
city
per
se
by
the
state,
because
I
heard
hear
me
masters
talking
about
lobbying,
cities
and
counties.
F
B
Thank
you.
Would
anyone,
like
else
like
to
be
heard
on
the
any
of
these
matters?
Three
four
and
five
hearing?
None,
it
comes
to
council.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
all
three
items.
Number
three,
four
and
five
I
would
point
out
to
our
citizens
here
that
this
change
in
zoning
to
mu-2
actually
provides
a
requirement
for
affordability
for
housing
that
did
not
exist
under
the
existing
zoning.
So
it's
actually
a
plus
from
our
vantage
point,
any
other
comments
or
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
mr.
J
Morgan,
okay-
and
the
next
item
is
on
Sam
rittenberg
Boulevard,
it's
near
the
entrance
to
sideral
mall
to
orient
you
to
the
site.
This
is
Sam
rittenberg.
This
is
I-526.
The
Red
Lobster
might
be
a
landmark
right
here
at
the
corner
of
Skylark
and
Sam
rittenberg,
and
it's
immediately
behind
that.
It's
a
vacant
piece
of
property,
the
request
is
to
add
it
to
the
accommodations
overlay
zone.
Both
staff
and
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval
would.
P
P
I.
Think
the
touchstone
of
approving
accommodations
used
among
others,
is
its
effect
on
nearby
residential
districts,
and
there
is
none.
The
the
property
is
encircled
by
other
commercial
uses.
It
backs
up
on
526
and
we
believe
that
this
accommodations
used
would
complement
very
nicely.
What
we
understand
to
be
the
long-term
plans
for
the
central
mall,
so
we
urge
council
to
vote
in
favor
of
this
zoning
application.
Thank
you
much.
B
O
O
B
Yes,
I
concur
and
we've
really
creating
a
node
for
accommodations
at
the
end
of
the
temporary
end
of
the
mark,
Clark
at
Savannah
Highway,
because
we
expect
that
it
will
be
extended
now
and
we're
so
glad
to
provide
some
accommodations
west
actually
so
that
we
don't
have
to
have
all
the
hotel
rooms
downtown.
So
it
is
part
of
our
revitalization
glad
to
have
it
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
you
pose
the
eyes.
Have
it
mr.
B
J
So
number
seven
is
eight
ten
Meeting
Street
its
own
Upper
Peninsula.
Its
request
is
to
go
to
the
accommodations
overlay
zone,
in
addition
to
the
Upper
Peninsula
zoning,
and
it
is
a
former
gas
station.
Here's
an
aerial
image
of
the
site,
it's
at
the
corner
of
Meeting
Street
and
Morrison
across
from
the
ILA
hole.
I
think
we've
got
a
closer
view
of
it
here
and
here's
a
street
view.
So
it's
it's
been
abandoned
for
a
good
while
then
547,
meaning
is
that
the
between
and
Harris
Street
a
long
meeting
it
is
zoned
general
business.
J
It's
immediately
north
of
the
Housing
Authority's
operations
facility.
It
has
light
industrial
uses
to
the
rear
across
the
street
is
also
the
Housing
Authority's
office
facility.
We've
got
some
aerial
images
of
this
one,
and
here
you
can
see,
there's
an
existing
structure
on
the
site
and,
of
course
any
demolition
and
new
construction
here
would
have
to
go
through
BA
our
approvals
as
well.
So
both
staff
and
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval
of
both
of
these
items.
All.
B
Q
Good
evening,
I'm
members
of
council,
my
name,
is
duane
green.
I
reside
at
22
Engel
Street,
that's
not
too
far
from
this
address.
I
get
to
see
some
familiar
faces.
There's
one
of
my
strong
support
in
favor
of
this
application.
I
think
it's
good
for
this
area,
good
for
the
city
and
I'm,
just
an
urge
you
to
support
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
B
J
R
O
O
J
R
B
J
B
J
This
is
a
ordinance
amendment,
it's
it's
not
in
the
presentation
here,
but
it's
in
your
agenda
packages.
It
was
reviewed
by
the
Planning
Commission
at
their
October
meeting
and
they
have
deferred
it
and
would
like
to
have
it
come
back
to
their
November
meeting
for
further
discussion.
So
it's
not
coming
forward
with
any
recommendation
at
this
point,
Tom
from
the
Planning
Commission
other
than
that
they
deferred
it
all.
S
Yes
and
members
of
council,
my
name
is
Joe
Gregg
I'm,
the
CFO
verrat
South
Carroll
credit
union
I'm,
here
to
speak
in
support
of
the
this
pragmatic
policy
change
that
can
help
us
generate
more
workforce.
Affordable
houses
as
an
employer
and
I
am
deeply
concerned
that
too
many
talented
people
we
need
to
work
need
working
in
the
region's
struggle
to
afford
a
home.
We
know
there's
no
silver
bullet
to
solving
this
problem,
but
policy
changes
like
this
are
a
great
step
in
the
right
direction.
S
T
Declan
Burke
members
of
council
also
support
this
initiative.
My
name's
Barry
Whelan,
president
of
HLA,
we've
had
probably
a
hundred
employees
since
our
32
years
to
you
in
the
city,
and
we
continue
to
have
more
more
problems
with
even
the
younger
members
that
are
trying
to
work
with
us.
Finding
housing
so
appreciate
this
initiative
and
any
more
that
can
come
to
help
the
portable
house.
Thank
you.
Thank.
U
You,
mayor
and
members
of
council
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate,
what's
already
been
said
tonight
in
favor
of
this,
this
change
as
a
real
estate
broker
at
Carolina.
One
I
personally
would
just
like
to
have
more
affordable
housing
closer
to
downtown,
because
that's
what
my
clients
won't
in
need,
but
in
addition
to
that,
when
we
ultimately
have
to
take
them
further
out
of
the
city
to
find
housing
for
them
and
their
families,
that
just
adds
more
traffic,
which
none
of
us
need.
More
of
so,
it's
not
only
an
affordable
housing
issue.
A
V
And
Ian
Scott
23:13,
our
dear
drive
with
the
Charleston
Metro
Chamber
I,
won't
belabor
the
point
any
further,
but
I
would
ask
Council
when
this
comes
back
to
please
approve
it.
I
know
it
was
approved
unanimously
on
first
reading.
We
are
really
eager
to
continue
working
with
the
city
as
the
business
community
to
help
generate
more
workforce,
affordable
housing
units.
They
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
that
at
your
last
council
meeting,
we're
eager
to
continue
that
work.
V
F
Public
comment:
Public
Service
Commission
in
Charleston,
County
on
Dominion
and
SC
and
G's
merged,
and
we
made
public
comment
chambers
here
and
so
the
Chamber's
got
all
the
resources
of
all
their
membership.
There
and
they've
got
access
to
both
parties.
You
got
a
surplus
of
hundred
seventy
eight
million
dollars
in
Columbia
right
now
we
got
flooding
down
here.
People
who
don't
have
weird
with
all
your
wherewithal
is
you
can't
leave
like
in
Florida
and
other
parts
of
the
country
they
can
leave
the
hurricane.
F
They
have
no
weird
with
all
they
maybe
don't
have
weird
with
all,
and
so
therefore,
that's
a
real
concern.
When
you
start
talking
about
affordable
housing
and
talking
about
these
issues,
you
got
to
rethink
this
whole
process.
This
is
a
great
ordinance.
I
think
you
got
a
lot
of
great
honest
you
done
in
the
past,
but
eight
years
I
think
I
mean
really.
The
council's
are
a
great
working
area.
I'm
not
criticizing
this
council,
but
I
am
criticizing
the
fact
that
these
partners
come
in
here
right
now.
F
You
do
a
little
bit
more
with
this
Dominion
merger
sng
gave
us
the
cream
and
gave
us
the
bad
Carter
system.
We
inherited
the
best
CD
and
get
them
out
there
since
you're
wasting.
They
had
many
years
what
it
chamber
members.
So
what
the
chamber
I
understand.
Clearly
I
do
their
part
too
and
raise
it
a
lot
more
money,
but
for
those
folks
with
no
wherewithal.
Thank
you.
B
W
Another
shaking
you're
questioning
because
it
has
to
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
before
it
actually
gets
on
the
books
for
third
reading.
My
question
for
our
legal
counsel
is:
can
we
give
this
second
reading,
send
it
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
then
have
it
come
back
to
us
for
a
final
vote,
which
seems
to
me
like
your
practical
way,
to
do
this
and
also
sends
a
message
to
the
Planning
Commission?
How
we
feel
about
this
ordinance,
which
I
think
is
unanimously
in
favor
yeah.
X
N
So
I
guess
I,
don't
really
understand
the
message
we
would
be
sending
if
we're
gonna
have
a
joint
work
session
with
the
Planning
Commission
that
mr.
Lindsay
and
the
mayor
has
promised
us
in
the
near
term.
Then
I
think
that
this
would
be
a
very
helpful
topic
for
us
to
be
able
to
discuss
more
holistically
and
in
the
bigger
scope
of
things.
I
I
can't
picture
myself.
N
What
would
go
wrong
if
we
went
ahead
and
initiated-
or
you
know,
enacted
this
ordinance,
but
I
do
think
since
they're,
just
wanting
to
take
the
time
after
further
study
that
it
might
behoove
us
to
go
along
with
them
and
further
study,
or
at
least
have
that
work
session.
That's
going
to
allow
us
to
have
sort
of
the
bigger
picture
discussions
that
that
we've
agreed.
We
need,
in
the
context
of
make
zoning
changes
that
are
currently
being
deferred
all
over
our
agenda,
so
I
go
either
way
but
I'm
positive.
For
that
question
of.
C
Council,
member
Jackson
I
do
understand
your
sentiment
there,
but
I
think
that
what
we're
trying
to
send
us
a
message,
not
just
the
Planning
Commission
but
to
the
public
that
we've
already
voted
on
this
twice.
We
support
it
wholeheartedly.
Nothing
is
going
I
mean
we're
not
going
to
hurt
the
Planning
Commission
by
taking
a
second
reading,
and
if
they
come
back
to
us
with
a
different
recommendation,
then
we
have
to
have
to
make
that
decision
at
that
point.
C
O
I'm
not
supposed
to
measure
but
I
want
to
pick
up
on
something
council.
Lady
Jackson
said
about
a
joint
meeting
with
the
Planning
Commission
I
I
know
that's
wanted
on
their
side
and
I'm
sure
it's
more
on
the
outside.
Primarily
talking
about
process.
They've
got
some
good
ideas.
We've
got
some
good
ideas,
it
kind
of
makes
sense.
We
can
kind
of
not
talk
about
individual
applications,
but
obviously
the
process.
It's
been
our
policy
that
they're
running
into
now.
It's
a
lot
different
since
I
was
there.
B
N
N
You
know
run
with
the
land
permanently,
so
maybe
that's
inherent
to
the
way
that
the
document
is
written
but
again,
I
I
have
no
problem
of
outing
to
give
it
second
reading
tonight,
knowing
that
we
can't
take
third
reading
until
we've
had
the
wisdom
of
the
Planning
Commission
I
personally
would
feel
much
happier
if
we
were
able
to
have
that
joint
discussion
before
they
made
their
recommendation
back
to
us.
So
I
don't
know
what
their
ability
is
to
continue
to
defer
it
for
study,
but.
Y
B
The
affordability
requirement
is
90
years,
so
with
it,
yes
ma'am,
it
does
laugh
along
okay,
any
other
discussion,
our
comments,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
for
second
reading,
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
We
will
wait
until
it
comes
back
or
third
reading.
Okay,
next
is
approval
of
our
City
Council
meetings
from
definitely
from
September
25th
I
wanted
to
ask
if
council
have
had
enough
time
since
the
minutes
from
October
9th
I
think
just
went
out
yesterday.
M
O
B
B
A
big
crowd
tonight,
I
will
respectfully
ask
what
we
normally
have
just
a
30
minute
period
for
citizens.
Participation,
40
folks
have
signed
up
a
minute.
Each
would
run
us
a
little
over
our
normal
30
minutes
or
would
ask
everyone
if
you
could
please
just
keep
it
to
one
minute,
we'll
run
a
little
extra
since
we
have
so
many
folks
want
to
speak
to
us.
A
Y
Mohammed
Aziz,
Bayer
wine
and
whiskey
drinking
is
killing
our
babies
and
destroying
our
families.
We
must
stop
this
now.
One
of
the
first
step
is
detective.
Abc
up
the
whiskey
stalls
join
us
as
we
work
to
this
end.
Why
would
they
teach
our
babies
in
school
to
learn
the
ABC
Family's
ABC
on
a
whiskey
stone
for
me
to
have
walked
into
the
Charleston
place
unconsciously
and
come
out
with
its
clipboard?
Y
In
my
hand,
that
contains
me
card
with
the
name
and
price
of
beer
wine
and
whiskey
on
it
told
me
that
this
is
what
God
wanted
me
to
do:
to
bring
peace
to
the
city
that
I
love
so
much,
and
that
is
to
establish
man
which
stands
for
minister
against
drinking
alcohol,
so
I'm
here
this
evening.
Acting
for
help
and
this
normal
test
to
bring
peace
and
tranquility
to
our
city
and
the
Quran,
the
Bible
and
the
Quran
said
the
Bible
say
in
proverb
time,
not
the
king.
It
is
not
the
case
to
drink.
Y
F
You
got
my
address,
it's
amazing,
to
be
called
every
legal
description
in
the
book
across
the
street
to
have
evidence
and
proof
that
you
are
epithet
near
eyes
and
authentic
sense.
I
put
my
comments.
I
put
my
complainant
in
an
authentic
way
to
get
an
authentic
result
without
any
appearance
of
anyone
that
we
know
that
everyday
people
across
their
185
broader
the
same
they're
the
same.
They
get
the
same
justice
based
on
access
and
money
and
power,
and
so
what
I'm
gonna
do
a
protest
is
appeal,
these
10
and
protest
for
those
folks.
F
Z
Every
five
fourth
Street
I'm
speaking
on
the
short-term
rental
issue,
I'm
in
the
category
one,
the
old
historic
district,
I
respectfully
ask
that
you
do
not
weak
in
the
current
orders
that
was
just
put
in
place
specifically
guys
they
can
do
not
remove
the
National
Register
requirement
and
keep
the
requirement
the
owner
be
on
premise.
My
wife
and
I
live
next
door
to
a
short-term
rental,
but
the
owner
was
not
present
and
we
had
the
cops
out.
Many
times
lost
a
lot
of
sleep
or
work
life
affected.
Z
We
even
caught
them
crawling
onto
our
roof
to
drink
and
smoke.
We
actually
caught
one
of
the
female
residents,
your
anything
in
front
of
our
doors.
This
is
just
a
few
blocks
from
here
where
I
live
in
the
French
Quarter.
This
is
not
what
could
happen
this.
What
does
happen
with
these
STRs?
We
ask
you
on
the
STR
requirements.
Please
keep
the
ordinance
as
it
is
and
deny
the
changes.
Mr.
white
fries
are
my
represent
our
vets
that
we
as
well.
Thank
you.
AA
Good
evening
I'm
Angela
Drake
I
reside
at
28
Ansan
street
in
Ansan
borough
I
served
on
the
short
term
rental
task
force
and
it
was,
it
was
put
together
in
response
to
economic
changes
in
a
proliferation
of
legal,
short-term,
rentals
across
the
city
of
Charleston.
In
response
to
that,
Mayor
takuan
burg
in
you,
members
of
City
Council,
established
a
short-term
rental
task
force
with
a
mandate
to
create
a
recommendations
for
solid,
modern,
enforceable
and
fair
system
for
short-term
rental
regulation.
We
know
it
as
STR
a
diverse
group
that
I
was
a
part
of
was
considering.
AA
It
was
composed
of
preservationist,
BMB
operators,
homemakers
attorneys,
real
estate,
industry
experts,
small
and
large
property
owners
and
even
an
a
or
Airbnb
operator
for
a
greater
part
of
a
year.
The
task
force
met
to
discuss
the
issues,
ask
questions
meet
with
Clint
citizens,
including
for
Public
Citizen,
open
forum
groups,
observe
presentations
from
short-term
rental
representatives
and
analyze
best
practices
from
other
cities
around
the
country.
Time
I'll
cut
to
the
chase,
then
utilizing
the
meth
is
stated
in
the
ordinance
of
qualifications,
compliance
and
enforcement.
AA
AB
John
Marsland
I'm,
the
president
of
the
historic
and
borough
Neighborhood
Association
on
behalf
of
Hannah.
We
oppose
the
changes
for
three
primary
reasons.
First,
as
we
feel
that
the
changes
fundamentally
change
the
intent
of
the
ordinance
from
being
one
that
focuses
on
enabling
residents
to
open
their
properties
to
others,
while
safeguarding
the
residential
fabric
of
neighborhoods,
rather
changing
it
to
one
that
favors
and
enables
commercial
and
non-residential
investment,
while
removing
almost
every
significant
safeguard
embedded
for
livability.
AB
Secondly,
we
don't
feel
that
the
proposed
changes
are
tethered
to
any
current
policy
priorities
and,
in
fact,
feel
they
contradict
many
of
them.
As
you're
well
aware,
the
residents
of
Charleston
have
concerns
about
deteriorating
livability
conditions,
lack
of
affordable
housing,
stock
pressures
from
growth
and
accommodations
use.
There's
nothing
in
this
proposal
that
Emilia
rates
any
of
these
concerns,
and
rather,
we
feel
exacerbates
almost
all
of
them.
Also,
unlike
existing
rules
for
new
hotels
and
other
commercial
uses
that
require
development
to
include
increased
parking
capacity,
these
proposed
rules
simply
increased
demand
on
existing
infrastructure.
AC
My
name
is
William
Thompson
as
a
homeowner
and
resident
advancing
borough.
I
strongly
opposed
the
proposed
st
ordinance
at
president.
Charleston
has
four
thousand
nine
hundred
sixty
three
hotel
rooms.
The
city
has
approved
an
additional
two
thousand
two
hundred
and
fifty
rooms
to
come
online
by
2023
an
increase
of
forty
five
percent
in
just
the
next
five
years.
The
last
thing
the
city
needs
is
more
tourist
accommodations.
Yet
by
eliminating
the
requirements
that
old
and
historic
properties
be
registered
as
national
historical
places,
virtually
every
property
in
ansan
borough
could
potentially
qualify
as
an
STR.
AC
To
make
matters
worse,
one
site
parking
would
no
longer
be
required
in
the
historic
district
for
properties
within
600
feet
of
a
public
parking
garage
or
parking
lot
with
garages
at
the
Gilliard
and
parking
lots
in
and
around
the
historic
district.
It
would
allow
virtually
unlimited
parking
within
the
historic
district.
So
respectfully
we
oppose
this
change
in
the
ordinance
Thank
You.
AD
Marion
Hawkins
I'm,
the
president
of
cannon
Burrell,
you
burdened.
As
you
know,
our
neighborhood
is
as
for
six
years
as
the
only
legal
area,
the
city
that
you
can
operate
commercial
Swart
terms,
we've
seen
pros
and
cons
over
the
last
six
years.
The
pros,
if
we've
seen
a
lot
of
investment,
we
seen
a
it's,
been
one
aspect
to
the
real
life.
AD
Revitalization
of
our
neighborhood
and
the
downside
is
we
have
seen
illegals
and
make
a
huge
light,
liveability
impact
so
and
also
even
with
some
illegals,
we've
seen
marketing
to
patch
up
our
T's
wedding
parties
and
those
have
affected
our
livability.
So
our
neighborhood
we
trying
to
have
a
balance
of
commercial
and
residential.
We
welcome
short
terms,
especially
those
who
are,
who
are
local
investors
and
supply
owners,
live
on
the
properties
and
and
really
take
the
neighborhood
into
an
impact
to
into
the
consideration.
But
I
will
consider
you.
AE
Good
evening,
I'm
Shelley
McMurray
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
serving
as
council
members
I
know.
It's
often
a
thankless
job,
I'm
I
live
in
Mount
Pleasant,
my
daughter
and
I
own,
a
home
in
the
Avondale
area
of
West
Ashley
that
we
have
used
as
an
Airbnb
I'm
here
to
talk
to
you
as
a
traveler
I'm,
a
frequent
traveler,
I've
traveled
to
Paris
Venice
San,
Diego
Nashville,
and
over
the
last
10
years,
I've
stayed
almost
exclusively
in
Airbnb
ease
the
memories
that
you
can
make
an
Airbnb
can't
be
compared
to
staying
at
a
hotel.
AE
Also,
I
believe
that
by
getting
rid
of
the
Airbnb
s,
you
are
not
allowing
affordability
to
families
as
they
visit
here
in
an
Airbnb
situation.
Ours
in
Avondale
we
rented
three
bedrooms
for
a
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
a
night
that
gave
these
families
the
opportunity
to
have
breakfast
and
so
forth
at
home.
I
believe
the
change
in
Airbnb
is
technology,
and
we
should
embrace
it
not
erase
it.
Thank
you.
A
A
AF
Hi
I'm
Diane,
DeAngelis
I,
live
on
Prioleau
Street
in
the
French
Quarter
and
I
want
to
talk
about
the
short
term
rental
program,
because
I
think
you're,
forgetting
that
we
have
too
many
hotels
already
and
then
add
the
cruise
ship
for
all
the
people
that
pour
into
town
I,
walk
everywhere,
or
bike
everywhere
sometimes
drive,
and
it's
just
become
overwhelming.
With
the
number
of
visitors
the
parking
situation,
the
garages
can't
take
it,
we
have
Spoleto,
we
have
all
kinds
of
events
going
on
there
aren't
enough
public
garages.
AF
AG
Hello,
my
name
is
Josiah
Williams
and
I'm.
A
native
of
this
great
city,
I'm
in
favor
of
the
changes
to
this
ordinance
I
see
a
lot
of
comments
online
or
people
talking
about
the
city
about
how
the
short
term
rental
market
is
controlled
by
rich,
greedy
developers
or
companies
who
don't
care
about
their
properties.
I
believe
it
is,
in
fact
the
opposite.
Nearly
every
single
short-term
rental
I
have
seen
or
stayed
in
are
owned
and
controlled
by
people.
AG
Like
me,
private
red,
private
residents
and
investors,
who
simply
found
an
opportunity
to
generate
additional
income
from
our
property.
I
am
far
from
rich
and
have
worked
and
studied
hard
to
create.
My
small
businesses,
I've
used
the
extra
income
provided
from
these
short-term
opportunities
to
help
pay
off
my
wife's
student
loans,
invest
in
the
community
and
to
help
provide
a
life
that
I'm
proud
of
these
new
ordinances.
Don't
hurt
big
companies
or
developers,
they
hurt
common
people
like
me
and
you,
while
simultaneously
crippling
our
investments.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
AH
AH
So
we
would
welcome
a
conversation
in
a
year
or
so
from
now,
like
a
lot
of
other
people
have
suggested
to
really
look
in
a
we
think,
a
productive
way
at
maybe
ways
to
use
a
scalpel
to
to
amend
this
ordinance
rather
than
a
sledgehammer.
So
we
would
please
urge
you
to
to
vote
against
these
amendments.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
AI
AI
AI
A
AJ
Good
evening
Leah
Farrell
with
the
Preservation
Society
of
Charleston,
we
echo
the
concerns
of
the
residents
and
the
Historic
Charleston
foundation
to
oppose
the
amendments
to
the
short
term
rental
ordinance.
This
ordinance
is
what
the
city
asked
for
to
ensure
effective
enforcement
over
the
thousands
of
illegal
STRs
that
were
littering
our
city
city
staff
are
investing
incredible
amounts
of
time
and
energy
to
protect
the
livability
of
our
community
for
our
residents,
while
balancing
the
interest
of
our
visitors
just
to
quickly
touch
on
a
few
concerns
pertaining
to
the
substance
of
the
proposal.
AJ
This
amendments
would
essentially
encourage
the
use
of
public
parking
to
satisfy
private
parking
requirements,
facilitate
single
use
districts
in
our
commercial
corridors,
which
further
hinder
the
growth
of
our
local
business
and
our
office
spaces
and,
most
importantly,
it
removes
all
means
for
effective
enforcement,
thereby
opening
the
floodgates
of
the
STRs
I
could
go
into
each
component
of
the
amendments
in
more
detail.
But
in
the
interest
of
time
it's
like
to
reiterate
that
we
ask
you
to
take
a
pause
and
deny
the
amendments
tonight.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
B
AK
Gillespie
for
zigzag
alley
I
employ
Syd
City
Council
to
really
consider
the
impact
on
neighborhoods
the
character.
The
history,
the
the
real
fabric
of
these
neighborhoods
are
drastically
impacted
by
short-term
rentals.
We
had
a
very
assertive
situation
right
in
her
neighborhood
and
it
people's
property
was
stolen,
it
was
on
and
on
and
on,
and
we
I
think
the
limitations
are
appropriate.
This
year,
kind
of
period
to
assess
is
very
appropriate,
so
really
kindly
consider
these
facets.
Thank
you.
AL
Hello,
I'm,
Erica,
Trent
I
live
at
262,
coming
Street
and
I'm
just
here
to
say.
Please
give
us
more
time.
We
worked
with
STR
committee
to
come
up
with
to
say
our
piece
on
these
rules
as
they
were
being
developed,
and
we
have
lived
across
the
street
from
an
illegal
STR
that
we
have
been
fighting
with
for
two
years.
We
call
the
cops
all
the
time.
My
son's
first
birthday.
AL
B
AM
AM
Got
it
okay,
thank
you.
I
needed
that.
Okay,
our
Wagner
Terrace
neighborhood
association
had
a
meeting
at
our
past
meeting.
We
made
a
motion,
then
it
was
voted
on
unanimously
by
everyone
that
was
short-term
rentals.
No
changes
be
made
to
our
ordinance
until
we
have
the
whole
thing
worked
out,
because
I
believe
that
we
all
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
this,
and
we
appreciate
everybody's
time.
AM
It's
not
been
easy
for
any
of
us,
particularly
Waggoner
terrorists,
because
we
are
a
very
delicate
neighborhood,
and
so
we
hope
that
no
changes
will
be
made,
because
we've
discussed
this
before
that.
We
would
like,
when
it's
completed,
that
the
bedding
has
been
down
done,
that
y'all
will
come
back
to
us
and
discuss
it
with
the
neighborhood
associations,
so
they
as
well
have
input
into
whatever
the
new
changes
might
be
so
that
it's
not
a
surprise
to
everybody.
Now
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
my
next
subject,
which
is
Carolyn
Dietrich
time,
we're.
C
AM
Okay,
Carolyn
dick
its
dick
Dietrich
lives
at
sixth
Alexander
can't
be
here.
She
is
very
concerned
about
this
and
her
concern
is-
and
she
said,
six
alexander's
at
the
tiny
little
area
and
she's
a
concerned
about
the
quality
of
life
and
the
safety
of
their
particular
area,
which
is
also
very,
very
precious
in
the
owners,
have
to
be
there
and.
A
R
AN
Evening
mark
Knapp
I
need
didn't
complete
my
thought
last
time.
I
was
here,
but
I
told
you,
you
know
a
lot
of
what
happens
in
government
is
ascension
by
attrition.
The
problem
you
folks
have
is
ascension
by
attrition
to
the
point
where
people
are
well
above
their
level
of
incompetency
I
mean
it's
sad,
but
I
see
it
now.
AN
On
a
good
note,
I've
had
a
couple
times
of
pulling
some
permits
and
I'll
tell
you
the
people
at
permits
that
are
really
gotten
a
lot
better
from
what
I
remember,
but
there
are
still
some
bureaucrats
here
that
are,
let's
put
it
this
way.
They'd
rather
hinder
than
help,
and
it's
not
well.
It
is
kind
of
a
session
of
the
permit
center,
but
not
permit
sir.
So
I
would
suggest
you
know.
You'd,
look
at
that.
Also,
you've
got
a
problem
still
on
B's
Ferry
and
Glenn
McConnell
traffic
still
doesn't
move
like
it.
AO
Hello,
my
name
is
Austin
Middleton
I'm,
the
current
president
of
Wagner
Terrace,
Neighborhood,
Association
and
sis
said
it
very
eloquently
that
we
voted
unanimously
to
request
that
y'all.
Don't
change
this
ordinance
for
the
short-term
rental.
I
live
on
a
gentleman
and
I
thought
when
you
pass
the
ordinance
it
had
the
same
effect
as
the
affordability
requirement
for
nine
years.
Was
that
correct
or
or
is
it
or
is
it
nine
years?
How
long
does
it
last
90
90
years?
AO
So
so
should
we
leave
it
in
place
for
90
years,
the
short-term
rental,
because
I'm
just
trying
to
make
a
joke
all
right,
cool
at
least
give
it
nine
months
come
on.
I
mean
this
is
something
that
we
need
to.
Let
it
play
out,
let
the
experts
analyze
it,
and
then
we
can,
you
know,
look
at
fix
it.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
AP
Members,
I'm
Janet,
Hopkins
I,
live
in
this
neighborhood
I
love
it
141,
Church,
Street,
I'm,
one
of
the
longest
well
I've
lived
there
for
30
years
and
I
continue.
I'll
always
live
in
my
house
and
I've.
Had
a
couple
of
past
neighbors
who've
run
illegal
Airbnb,
'he's
next
door
to
me
always
saying
they're
having
family
and
friends
visit
and
it's
unpleasant.
It
creates
noise.
I
was
so
relieved
when
the
ordinance
was
passed
and
I've
truly
hoped
that
you
won't
change
it.
It's
a
protection
I'm,
very
protective
of
my
neighborhood
and
the
buildings.
AP
AQ
I'm
here
Yvonne
for
me,
85
Smith,
Street,
Charleston
and
I'm,
representing
the
Hassan
Village
neighborhood
tonight,
and
you
have
a
letter
from
the
neighborhood
president
Liv
Daniels,
who
is
actually
right
back
here
and
stating
our
opposition
to
the
proposed
amendments.
The
changes
of
the
to
the
ordinance
as
proposed
will
remove
some
of
the
most
important
provisions
of
the
ordinance,
we're
concerned
with
the
amendments,
but
particularly
the
ones
removing
the
National
Register
requirement,
removing
the
requirement
the
owner
be
on
site
and
running
an
STR
and
easing
easing
the
parking
requirements.
AQ
These
amendments
will
jeopardize
the
livability
of
our
neighborhoods
by
allowing
more
STRs
with
less
supervision
and
creating
more
parking
problems.
I
also
believe
these
provisions
will
be
harder
to
enforce
citizens
staff
task
force
boards,
City
Council,
all
I'm,
really
hard
for
over
a
year
on
the
coordinates,
let's
give
it
a
chance,
rather
than
embarking
on
another
lengthy
and
contentious
process
just
three
months
after.
AQ
AR
I'm
Luke,
Daniels
and
I
am
a
resident
of
Charleston
I
live
at
living
Halston
place
and
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
for
the
ordinance
to
amend
chapter
21.
The
prohibits
the
building
construction
because
I'm
a
block
away
from
the
noise
and
the
pounding
sergeant
Jasper,
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
that
and
actually
to
ask
if
you
could
further
limit
it
to
not
and
at
7:00
p.m.
and
5:00
p.m.
and
not
at
all,
on
Sundays
if
possible.
Thank
you
for
the
piece
that
that
may
provide
all
the
neighbors.
Thank
you.
AR
AS
Village
I
belong
to
a
group
which
is
called
aging-in-place
and
their
two
carriages
people
to
remain
in
their
homes
once
they
are
senior
citizens
or
only
pensioners.
One
way
to
do
that
is
with
short-term.
Let's
I
live
in
Hassan
village.
My
house
was
built
in
1775,
it
is
on
the
list
of
historic
properties,
but
not
individually
listed.
We
have
parking
for
six,
but
I
was
denied,
so
I
think
they
need
to
revisit
it
and
I
really
agree
with
Josiah
with
what
he
said.
Thank
you
thank.
AT
Josh
612
West
Street
I'm,
the
government
affairs
director
for
the
Charleston
Trident
Association
of
Realtors
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
ordinance
language
for
chapter
21,
find
some
of
the
definition
to
be
a
bit
ambiguous,
we'd
like
more
clarity
when
it
comes
to
loud
and
unusual
noises.
Cta
R
has
been
a
partner
with
the
city
in
the
past
on
affordable
housing,
which
has
been
brought
up
several
times
today,
the
limitation
of
ours,
the
restriction
that
it
puts
on
builders
only
delays
and
creates
more
costs.
AT
At
a
time
when
housing
is
at
a
all-time
deficit,
we
need
every
available
parcel
to
come
online
as
quickly
as
possible,
so
we
would
urge
Council
to
vote
no
on
this
amendment
and
as
future
language
is
considered,
the
Realtors
developer's
home
builders
be
allowed
to
participate
in
the
crafting
of
such
language.
Thank
you.
AU
Mr.
Egan
Scott
is
yielded
me
graciously
this
time.
My
name
is
Patrick
Arnold
of
25
Beverly,
Road
and
I
serve
as
the
executive
director
for
the
Charleston
Home
Builders
Association,
and
on
behalf
of
the
Association,
we
respectfully
ask
council
to
temporarily
defer
or
pass
up
the
proposed
ordinance
to
regulate
construction
noise.
While
we
fully
understand
the
need
for
the
protection
of
the
community
industry,
experts
and
associations
were
not
consulted
prior
to
the
drafting
of
the
ordinance,
and
we
believe
there
will
be
some
serious
negative
consequences
to
the
community
as
a
whole.
AU
B
AV
AW
My
name
is
Bill
Bennett.
You
probably
thought
you
were
through
with
short
term
rentals,
but
here
I
am
I'm
speaking
in
opposition
to
the
changes
of
the
short
run
along
this
ordinance
I
own,
several
Ronald's
and
I
have
owned
these
properties
for
20
years
long
before
the
concept
of
short-term
rentals.
As
we
know
it
today
existed
all
the
properties
that
I
owned
or
in
areas
in
which
short-term
rentals
are
permitted
and
are
eligible
for
short
term
rental
licenses.
AW
These
rentals
can
be
profitable
endeavor,
but
they
carry
with
them
various
negative
aspects
for
the
greater
community
which
can
diminish
the
quality
of
life
of
the
majority
of
residents
such
as
parking
noise
pollution
and
problems
created
by
absentee
ownership.
Let's
face
it
for
years,
people
violated
the
zoning
regulations
and
established
illegal,
short-term
rentals.
These
Reynolds
became
a
problem
for
the
neighborhood
and
to
the
community
at
large
residents.
May
divorce
is
heard
in
the
city
established
a
task
force
to
study
the
problem
with
the
goal
of
limiting
the
never
give
aspects
of
such
Runnels.
AW
Now
it
seems
that
there
are
certain
people
return
to
the
conditions
and
even
expand
this
commercialization.
Who
are
these
people
and
what
are
their
commercial
interests
there
to
promote
and
protect
and
enjoy
our
neighborhoods?
Are
they
there
to
enrich
their
pockets?
Our
question
their
motives.
Thank.
AX
Five,
my
name
is
Chuck
wearing
my
wife
of
my
own
properties
and
Wagner's
Terrace
Eliot,
burrow,
cannon
burrow
in
the
short
term
overlay
Harleston
place
and
Ratcliffe
burrow
I'm
here
tonight,
just
to
encourage
the
council
in
the
mayor
to
consider,
leaving
the
ordinance
in
place
a
little
longer
to
allow
the
enforcement
to
take
effect
and
work
to
flush
out
some
of
the
gross
offenders
to
the
policy.
But
then
I
also
would
say
instead
of
considering
changes
individually,
let's
collectively
grab
those
and
study
them
and
make
a
proactive
decision
whether
than
rather
than
a
reactive
one.
A
AY
Good
evening,
I'm
Phyllis
Ewing
I
live
at
for
Ashley,
Avenue
and
I'm
here
for
the
Charlestown
Neighborhood
Association
I
want
to
address
two
things:
one,
the
construction
ordinance
the
hours.
We
like
the
idea
of
the
ordinance
a
lot,
but
we
would
hope
that
instead
of
7:00
to
7:00
on
weekdays,
it
could
be
7
to
5:30
and
instead
of
unchanged
to
9,
to
5:30
on
Saturdays,
it's
nice
to
have
some
peace
when
you're
home
when
you're
not
in
bed,
and
it
is
a
residential
aimed
at
residential
areas.
AY
Secondly,
surprise:
surprise
I'm
here
on
short-term
rentals,
the
proposed
section
54
207.
Why
guts?
The
ordinance
of
all
features
that
the
task
force
and
citizenry
work
so
diligently
to
include
the
ordinances
proposed,
takes
away
the
provision
in
district
1
that
buildings
must
be
on
the
National
Register
to
apply.
This
is
a
protection
for
the
most
visited
and
pressured
neighborhoods
in
the
city.
Time
can
I
say
one
more
thing
because
I'm
losing
okay
closing
sentences.
Where
does
it
stop?
AY
AZ
I'm
Susan
bass,
I'm
president
of
the
French
Quarter
Neighborhood
Association,
in
which
this
building
is
located.
I
live
at
18,
State,
Street
and
I
just
want
to
urge
you
to
give
this
ordinance
a
chance.
These
task
force
worked
so
hard
to
come
up
with
something
that
is
measurable,
enforceable
and
has
common
sense.
AZ
Let's
give
it
a
chance
and
I
also
wanted
to
comment
and
thank
you
all
for
developing
an
ordinance
for
construction
hours,
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
the
nitty-gritty
of
the
hours
itself,
but
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
the
neighborhoods,
especially
downtown,
really
appreciate
the
potential
to
have
some
quiet
time.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Ma'am.
BA
My
name
is
George
CEO.
The
fourth
I
am
a
legal
STR
operator
living
on-site
at
68,
Cannon
Street.
The
proposed
changes,
gentlemen
and
and
ma'am
that
do
not
require
on-site
parking
and
do
not
require
the
owner
to
be
present
cater
to
the
types
of
uses
that
are
exactly
destructive
to
this
city.
They
are
large
parties,
wedding
parties,
bachelor
bachelorettes,
and
so
let
us
remember
that
when
the
cat
is
away,
the
mice
will
play
people
think
they
can
own
the
place,
and
so
the
the
changes
has
written
give
a
green
light
to
an
unsupervised
party.
BA
BB
Evening,
I'm
Karen
Keys,
a
longtime
resident
of
Charlestown
and
a
certified
property
manager
for
short
and
long
term.
Rentals
I
appreciate
you,
reconsidering
some
changes
to
the
ordinance
I
do
support
changes
to
it.
It
was
initially
passed
only
because
you
put
in
the
caveat
of
there
need
to
be
exemptions
to
this,
which
already
we've
seen
those
are
needed.
Hole
homes
are
not
inherently
bad
technology,
and
monitoring
skills
are
far
improved
from
what
they
used
to
be
so
there's
ways
to
operate
them
very
responsibly.
BB
Even
if
someone
is
not
on
site,
that
is
definitely
possible
and
I
know
very
clearly
the
story
of
roshanda
grant
and
her
home
on
James
Island,
who
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
with
her
father
and
seeing
their
property
and
what
their
he
does
have
a
legal
permit
to
operate,
but
there's
a
4-person
limit
on
his
home,
which
is
a
very
large
home
with
accessory
dwellings
as
well.
That
can
provide
a
great
a
great
spot
for
families
that
hotels
cannot
accommodate.
So
we
already
know
that
there
needs
to
be
times
I
appreciate
you
considering
them.
B
BC
Good
evening,
mayor,
Tucker,
Burke
members
of
council
I'm
here
to
speak
on
the
construction
activity,
ordinance,
I'm,
Michael,
Mahara
CEO
of
the
west
edge
foundation,
while
the
goals
of
the
ordinance
are
certainly
well
intentioned
to
understandable
and
and
well-meaning,
regrettably
or
respectfully,
I'd
suggested
the
ordinance.
It
really
isn't
ready
for
your
consideration,
not
even
at
first
reading,
right
now
and
recommend
that
you
defer
for
this
study
that
really
has
not
yet
occurred
on
this
ordinance.
The
ordinance
is
written,
has
imprecise
language
undefined
terms,
which
really
are
at
the
core.
BC
The
ordinance
that
really
shouldn't
be
the
case.
The
intended
results,
and,
probably
more
importantly,
the
unintended
consequences
really
haven't
been
identified
or
even
addressed,
because
they've
not
been
really
thought
through.
There's
been
a
little
analysis
of
the.
What
could
be
very
significant
economic
impact
that
this
ordinance
could
have.
It
relies
on
an
exemption
process
that
really
isn't
defined
in
the
ordinance
there.
Is
there
an
appeal
process?
BC
It
actually
potentially
turns
the
chief
building
official
into
someone
who
is
going
to
be
influenced
politically
or
pressured
and
really,
as
mentioned,
there's
not
really
been
an
apparent
outreach
to
the
stakeholders
who
can
really
help,
and
so
I'd
really
like
to
volunteer
even
to
help
craft
an
ordinance
that
can
meet
the
goals,
but
they
can
really
identify
all
of
the
implications
and
address
them
as
precisely
as
possible
within
the
ordinance
now,
rather
than
later.
Thank
you.
BD
Mr.
mayor
council,
I'm
George
Smith
I'm
a
downtown
resident
I'm,
a
licensed
bed-and-breakfast
operator
I'm
here
to
ask
you
to
leave
the
bed
and
brettly
the
STR
in
this
current
form.
The
STR
is
an
effort
to
preserve
neighborhoods
and
residential
way
of
life
from
the
peninsula.
The
ordinance
took
effect
on
July.
The
9th
was
in
for
sixty
days
later.
BD
BE
Ginger
blast
I'm,
Laurel,
Avenue
and
I've
lived
in
Charleston.
All
my
life
I'd,
like
to
thank
councilman,
will
remember
wearing
for
proposing
some
amendments.
However,
the
conditions
should
be
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
for
instance,
setting
the
maximum
percent
of
a
lot
occupied
by
buildings
to
25
percent
that
shouldn't
matter.
As
long
as
there's
enough
parking,
the
one-year
rule
seems
to
be
set
up
so
that
only
wealthy
property
owners
can
take
part
who
can
keep
a
home
unoccupied
for
one
year
from
the
beginning,
the
short
terminal
task
force
was
skewed
and
biased.
BE
Instead
of
setting
up
the
task
force
to
represent
both
sides,
there
was
not
a
single
member
that
was
trying
to
gain
legality
to
their
property
short
term.
There
were
lawyers,
there
was
a
bed-and-breakfast
owner,
some
from
the
hotel
industry
and
others.
They
didn't
know
anything
about
STRs.
Prior.
It
was
from
this
body
that
the
City
Council
took
direction,
not
the
Planning
Commission
think
about
it.
It
would
be
like
a
room
full
of
Gamecocks
fans
riding
up
the
2018
playbook
for
Clemson,
responsible
property
owners
like
myself,
like
roshanda
grant
and
others
were
simply
not
represented.
BE
We
deserve
an
opportunity
to
rent
our
6%
hole
homes
if
the
city
would
allow
people
to
rent
our
second
homes
or
part
of
their
homes,
more
folks
would
sign
up
for
the
proper
permits
and
licensing,
and
once
you
have
everyone
on
board
revenue
increases,
you
have
money
to
hire
more
city
staff.
Then
they
can
more
effectively
eliminate
the
bad
actors.
Thank.
R
B
BF
Gentlemen
and
ladies
tonight,
I'm
gonna
make
it
very
short
look
at.
That
was
someone
very
famous
who
said
time
is
on
our
side.
So
that's
what
we
need
to
do.
Give
the
ordinance
time
and
I
was
gonna,
recognize
Dan
Richie,
oh
tonight,
for
the
terrific
job
does
he
still
have
danced
and
others
he
has
done
a
terrific.
R
BF
Fabulous
anyway,
dan
has
done
such
a
terrific
job
and
putting
together
a
team,
that's
now
beginning
to
tackle
what
we
need
to
tackle
in
this
town.
The
attack
on
a
quality
of
life
downtown
and
I'm,
just
asking
council
tonight,
and
our
neighborhood
association
voted
unanimously
to
ask
Council
for
nine
months
so
that
we
can
digest
everything.
Time
is
going
on.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
very
much
well.
That
concludes
our
citizens
participation
period.
Thank
you
all
for
sharing
your
thoughts
and
comments
with
us.
Next
on
our
petitions.
It's
just
the
appointment
of
Paul
Multani
who's,
West
Ashley
hotelier
to
the
accommodations
tax
advisory
committee.
Did
I
hear
a
motion
in
a
second
okay
Hey,
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes
habit.
Next,
we'll
go
to
our
committee
reports.
First
committee
on
recreation,
councilmember,
Gregory,.
BG
Marin
Council
the
Recreation
Committee
met
on
Monday
October
22nd
at
3:30.
We
had
three
items
on
our
agenda.
The
first
was
to
change
the
name
of
our
committee
from
Recreation
Commission
to
appropriately
the
Recreation
Committee,
as
all
other
standing
committees
are
referred
to,
that
was
passed
unanimously
by
the
recreation
committee.
Under
new
business.
We
had
discussions
on
John's
Island
recreation
center,
something
that
we've
been
discussing
now
for
about
20
years.
BG
BG
B
Get
on
the
floor
right,
yeah
we've
got
a
motion
on
the
floor.
Yes
right,
okay,
we're
kind
of
going
out
over
here
a
little
bit.
You
want
to
go
ahead
and
handle
the
motion
to
agree
to
providing
a
recreation
facility
on
on
John's
Island
object
to
our
our
parks,
recreation
study.
That
will
be
done
this
yes
man
coming
year.
Yes,
any
further
discussion,
councilmember,
Sheila,
yeah.
BH
B
Further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it,
and
let
me
just
add
that
councilman,
Wagner
and
I
both
serve
on
the
John's
Island
Infrastructure
Committee
and
we've
had
our
recreation
department.
Look
at
the
statistics
of
you
know
how
many
tennis
courts
you
ought
to
have
how
many
basketball
court
you
ought
to
have
for
a
certain
amount
of
population
and
and
clearly
we
are
lacking
on
almost
every
count.
B
BG
BG
BG
B
AV
AV
There
is
on
the
strip
from
approximately,
where
526
interchanges
all
the
way
to
the
very
far
corner
of
the
city
boundary
line
to
existing
fire
stations,
fire
station
number
20
and
fire
station
number
21
sort
of
smack
in
the
middle
of
those
two
fire
stations
as
fire
station.
A
proposed
fire
station
22
we've
just
dedicated
back
in
June
fire
station
21,
that
is
on
leased
property,
there's
a
huge
improvement
of
what
was
out
there
before.
AV
But
it
looks
at
me
so
the
temporary
facility,
but
it's
up
and
running
and
it
serves
the
community
on
the
far
reaches
of
the
city
boundary
fire
station
number
20
has
been
there
for
approximately
20
years,
or
so
it
was
the
former
warehouse
toolshed
doing
the
construction
of
interstate
526.
You
may
have
remembered
so
so
months
ago
there
was
the
bedbug
episode
of
the
fire
station.
The
living
conditions
out
there
are
the
pourable
at
best.
AV
R
AV
AV
BI
I
just
want
committee
for
reviewing
the
need
out
on
Clements
Ferry
Road
and,
as
many
of
you
all
real
estate
committee,
know
my
opinion
of
replacing
20,
and
that
really
was
a
priority
issue.
For
me,
I
will
say:
22
is
the
top
priority,
still
I'm,
not
opposed
to
acquiring
a
placement
site
for
20
and
I.
BI
Do
think
that,
based
on
our
most
recent
conversations
or
budget
hearings,
our
budget
of
nineteen
and
moving
forward,
the
reality
is,
is
that
we're
gonna
have
to
figure
out
how
we
do
station
22
in
the
near
term
as
well
as
something
on
John's
Island.
So
I
appreciate
the
committee
looking
and
reviewing
the
information
and
I'm
prepared
to
support
the
initiative
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
Any.
B
W
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
the
committee
on
traffic
and
transportation
met
yesterday
at
5:15
with
a
mandate
finished
by
5:45,
which
we
did.
We
took
up
two
matters
that
need
approval
of
this
council.
One
was
an
application
for
a
taxi
Charleston
taxi
LLC.
The
second
was
approval
with
speed
calming
humps
on
Barfield
Street
on
Daniel
Island.
This
was
actually
a
street
that
came
before
the
committee
before
and
did
not
meet
speed
requirements.
W
Apparently
the
word
got
back
to
the
residents
of
Barfield
street,
so
they
sped
up
so
now,
Barfield
street
qualifies
and
as
a
result
of
them
speeding
up
we're
going
to
slow
them
down
unanimously
by
approving
speed.
Humps
I
would
like
to
let
the
members
of
this
council
know
that
by
approving
these
that
we
do
tonight
and
with
the
rest
of
our
maintenance
needed
for
the
end
of
the
year,
we're
now
out
of
money
for
speed
humps.
So
please
tell
your
constituents.
2019
is
their
year
not
2018.
W
We
heard
a
report
on
the
line
Street
update,
which
is
the
line
street
conversion
to
ways
from
rutledge
Avenue
to
King
Street
that
was
approved
by
this
council
as
they
matter
seven
years
ago,
mayor
so
we're
right
on
it.
The
project's
ready
to
go
mr.
benjamin
has
it
ready
to
go
and
funded
it
has
taken
to
the
community.
They
approve
of
it.
It'll
actually
be
a
really
cool
project
on
the
north
end
of
the
peninsula
line
street
going
two
ways
we
heard
from
the
county
and
the
SCE
ot
on
the
US.
W
Seventeen
corridor
study,
which
is
a
fascinating
study
at
dovetail,
dovetails
very
nicely
with
the
West
Ashley
study
on
transportation.
The
absolute
center
of
gravity
and
need
is
right
there
at
Wesley
Drive
and
that
whole
shopping
center
right
there.
So
the
county
is
looking
at
that
closely.
The
17
corridor
is
going
to
get
attention
and
principally
other
than
getting
across
the
river.
It
was
that
Wesley
Avenue
Wesley
board.
W
W
So
it
was
a
lively
meeting,
great
meeting,
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
transportation,
so
to
the
extent
that
you
all
would
like
more
information
on
the
parking
study,
the
pedestrian
enhancement
projects
and
the
17
corridor
study,
which
I
would
recommend
you
take
a
look
at
we'll
get
it
to
you.
I
would
move
approval
of
the
tax
Charleston
taxi
and
of
the
soon
to
be
calmed.
Barfield
Street
have.
W
BJ
BJ
C
Speed
humps
thing
we
talked
about
it
a
couple
of
months
ago
in
shadow
we
talked
about
maybe
making
some
changes
to
how
we
do
this.
The
speed
humps
and
the
whole
traffic
calming
program
has
that
been
brought
up
again
or
is
that
gonna
be
something
that
we
need
to
kind
of
look
into
at
the
end
of
the
year
for
next
year,
or
so.
W
Like
many
things,
speed
humps
are
a
matter
of
policy
and
funding,
and
so
it's
something
we
certainly
need
to
talk
about
they're
in
the
process
of
our
next
budget.
Here
we
have
certain
funds
allocated
to
the
speed
hump
program.
The
manner
in
which
speed
humps
are
placed
out
in
the
community
is
certainly
something
we
can
always
look
at
and
see
mr.
Benjamin
back
there
I
don't
know
if
he
has
a
comment,
but
you
did
come
and
talk
to
us.
We
are
really
limited
in
our
speed,
hump
budgets.
W
W
BK
B
Q
B
BI
Man
summer
Wyatt
comment
about
because
we've
done
a
number
of
traffic
calming
devices
on
one
Daniel
Island
in
speed,
humps,
and
they
do
work
and
and
they're
effective.
However,
what
they
also
do
is
they
then
push
traffic
into
other
areas,
and
so,
when
you
talk
about
it
really
being
a
function
of
planning,
it
really
is
because
the
reality
is
as
daniel
islands
and
a
brand
new
community,
but
the
reality
of
traffic
calming
devices
it
really
just
sort
of
pushes
traffic
in
other
directions.
BK
BL
I
kind
of
want
to
expand
a
little
bit
on
what
councilmember
white
just
said.
Just
in
general,
we
have
don't
work
very,
very
hard
on
getting
conductivity
throughout
the
city
right
now.
Half
of
mice
traffic
is
coming
off
the
beach
very
room
down
slander'd
road
and
right
up
the
gut
right
down
to
my
stoplight,
which
I've
got
the
only
stoplight
coming
out
of
Carolina
Bay
I
am
the
first
street
in
a
week,
sometimes
three
to
four
lights.
To
get
out
of
there.
We
also
have
a
school
they're
called
ze
waves.
BL
Try
that
seven
o'clock
in
the
morning
when
we
have
the
traffic
for
the
school,
it
also
dovetails
going
through
Carolina
Bay,
where
it
goes
into
from
my
district
councilmember
Seeley's,
where
they're
trying
to
get
the
West
I,
actually
high
school,
so
bottle
of
lies.
I've
got
a
new
section
of
Carolina
Bay
and
you've
got
attack
bomb
and
I.
Did
too
mine
was
about
fifth
to
time
where's
my
speed
up
come
sit
by
my
door.
What
we,
what
we're
seeing
actually
happened
is:
okay,
the
connectivity
is
working.
BL
Maybe
it
wasn't
planned
exactly
right
to
begin
with
by
the
developer,
but
now
now
that
they're
coming
through
my
neighborhood
or
your
neighborhood
or
took
Kevin's
neighborhood,
they
don't
care
what
the
speed
limit
is.
Nor
do
they
care
about.
Stop
signs.
So
now
we,
through
our
own
success
with
conductivity
we've
created
a
monster
called
traffic
traffic.
BL
T
B
BG
W
As
you
know,
for
the
first
time
ever
in
our
history
in
the
city,
we
actually
have
a
Budget
Committee
and
we
have
sat
with
all
the
department
heads
which
is
included
mr.
Benjamin
from
traffic
and
transportation
and
all
others
who
have
been
asking
for
dollars
specifically
for
projects.
Mr.
Benjamin
actually
adhered
very
closely
to
all
of
the
plans
that
have
been
paid
for
and
studied
in
the
city
in
his
request,
so
it
will
now
be
incumbent
on
this
body.
As
we
go
through
the
budgeting
process,
the
title
of
dollars.
W
W
BK
So
a
couple
of
things
one
of
the
pieces
was
embedded
in
the
plan,
was
Street
design
standards
and
how
we
handle
that
process,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
is
pain
and
signage.
We've
asked
for
training
dollars
for
our
crew
members
so
that
they
can
be
able
to
do
it
so
we're
not
as
dependent
on
professional
services
to
execute
that
work.
BK
Since
we've
invested
forty
thousand
dollars
in
new
paint
machines
and
we've
also
asked
for
an
increase
in
our
professional
services,
just
because
then
we
could
be
able
to
do
some
of
the
work
like
the
people
put
a
plan
on
our
own.
With
with
the
fact
of
our
rightaway
death
and
injuries,
especially
around
multi,
use,
multi
modal
use.
We
feel,
like
there's
work,
that
the
city
can
be
doing
to
effectively
change
them.
One
example
for
for
you,
where
we
took
we
partnered
with
sed
LT,
was
for
Brigade
Street.
BK
BG
C
C
So
all
I'm
asking
is
then
for
ad
hoc
to
look
at
getting
up
to
at
least
the
hundred
thousand.
That's
is
in
the
traffic
calming
program
that
is
put
on
our
website
that
citizens
click
on
and
look
at
this
brochure
that
says
that
we
have
this
program
that
is
underfunded
and
underperforming.
So
that's
just
the
point:
I
want
to
make
Thank
You
thanks.
Alright,.
W
B
B
O
Mr.
Benjamin
I
know
we
put
an
address
and
I
know
you're
working
on
with
it.
You
can
explain
some
of
the
process
in
place
to
get
a
school
zone
flashing,
light
foot
up
when
the
ala
stone,
Hebrew
school
was
built,
leaving
out
on
Wallenberg
Boulevard,
there's
very
little
signing
at
that
elementary
school.
Is
there
there's
some
signs
on
one
side
coming
from
61
towards
on
Wallenberg
Toit's
Ashley
Hall?
But
if
you
and
Ashley
hall
or
Wallenberg,
going
towards
the
school
there
aren't
any
signs
at
all,
so
I
know
you've
been
working
on
it.
O
The
can
you
tell
we,
you
know
we
billing
a
school
over
at
Stone
or
elemental
as
where
stone
Elementary.
You
know,
there's
a
new
show,
no
elementary
being
built
as
part
of
school
construction.
Wouldn't
prophesy
need
to
be
part
of
that
construction.
A
simple
thing
of
putting
up
a
schools
on
flashing
light.
BK
BK
That's
connecting
the
parking
lot
at
the
blackboard
on
Daniel
Island
right
to
do
that
work
ahead
of
time
and
as
soon
as
that
coming
back
to
us
later,
and
so
we
try
to
make
that
effort
and
try
to
be
better
about
that
in
regards
to
the
school
zone
and
the
lights
and
otherwise
sed
ot
sees
those
in
the
same
category
as
signals,
and
so
though
we
maintain
and
operate
them.
We
still
have
to
make
a
request
for
school
zones
because
that's
the
dictation
of
speed,
and
so
we
have
to
make
our
formal
request
as
cdlt.
BK
O
BK
O
I
mean
this
school.
Isn't
you
know
some
elementary
schools
are
at
the
back
of
the
neighborhood.
Wallenberg
is
a
major
cut
tune
in
West
Asia
between
runs
between
61
and
Ashley
Hall,
so
whatever
we
can
do
that
I
know,
that's
not
on
you,
but
if
this
something
we
can
do
to
get
with
get
with
our
senators
and
our
legislators
to
help
expedite
the
process,
we
need
to
do
it
faster.
Thank.
O
B
BM
So
the
huger
Street,
we
got
a
report
back
from
JMT.
They
looked
at
several
options.
The
one
that
looks
most
promising
would
involve
construction
of
a
pump
station
and
I
think
he
said
the
estimate
was
about
four
point:
nine
million
dollars
the
outfall
for
South
Windermere,
we're
expecting
a
survey
back
in
a
week
or
so
we're
looking
at
it
in-house
to
see
if
we've
got
the
ability
to
get
gravity
flow
from
Wyndemere
out
to
this
new
outfall.
BM
Honestly,
I'm
gonna
have
to
we're
gonna
have
to
look
at
that.
We've
got
a
lot
of
new
proposed
projects
that
are
being
requested
at
us
at
this
time.
I
think
the
best
way
to
approach
that's
going
to
be
to
get
our
program
manager
on
board
and
look
at
all
of
these
projects
and
put
some
criteria
to
them
and
you
know
which
ones
might
be
able
to
get
grant
funding,
which
ones
that
you
know
are
gonna
have
the
more
permitting
intense
permitting
issues
and
just
you
know,
get
something
before
council.
BJ
Want
to
remind
you
and
comedian/actor
tell
you
this
every
meeting,
so
we
talked
about
ug3
huge,
the
street
isn't
flooding
over
30
years,
but
right
now
has
one
of
the
biggest
public
safety
issue
in
this
city.
Anyone
comes
from
MUSC
and
going
north
to
North
Charleston.
If
s
the
Avenue
and
September
o'clock
is
flooded,
there
comes
a
stop
the
street.
When
they
come
down
Santa
Street,
they
turn
north
to
go
to
North
Charleston.
They
get
the
huger
Street.
BJ
BF
BM
BJ
Actually,
somebody
get
killed,
trying
to
get
off
with
King
Street
between
huger,
in
line
one
day
trying
to
get
home.
We
don't
add
two
or
three
cars
to
turn
over
on
line
and
King
Street
and
the
flood
of
water.
The
last
storm
we
had
18
cars
funded
Oliphant
had
to
push
it
in
the
post
and
quarry
a
lot.
So
we
need
to
do
something
something.
AT
BJ
Solve
this
problem,
while
huger
and
King
Street
get
to
do
T
to
fix
the
problem
that
they
created
on
the
on
line
and
King,
so
can
you
remember?
Louis,
T
or
T
continues
to
tell
us
that
the
Internet
it
created
that
problem
is
no
longer
with
the
Geo
T
and
we
shouldn't
be
wishing,
except
that
we
should
demand
that
our
state
legislators
and
state
senators
find
out
why
they
can't
fix
Lion
King
I
mean
it's
disgusting.
I,
look
at
people
sometime
and
I
just
shake
my
head.
We
need
trying
to
get
out
of
neighborhood.
BM
M
B
M
M
Past
35
years
he
was
flooding
for
35
years
since
I
was
there
and
I
have
seen
cars
flooded
out
people
going
to
he
can't
get
through
that
with
him.
I
have
when
I
come
into
North
Charleston
have
to
take
another
rod
to
try
the
Dodge
in
order
to
get
his
home
to
my
house,
and
that
was
going
through
all
this
year.
35
years
and
I
said
nah,
you
know
when
we
talk
about
ug
and
King.
M
M
King
Eugene
came
Richmond,
Street
sup
the
street
way
back
when
those
was
on
the
top
of
her
list
of
it
was
flooding
ever
since
I
was
going
to
school
here
and
all
of
a
sudden
I,
don't
know
what
happened
to
these
seemingly
jumped
from
the
top
admit
to
the
bottom,
and
everything
else
was
trying
to
work
home
and
they
forgot
about
the
streets
they
had
to
rescue.
The
squad.
Come
in
front
of
my
house.
M
Put
the
boat
there
to
get
people
out
of
the
service
station
by
me
and
bring
them
back
in
front
of
my
door
because
it
was
flooded
up
in
the
skin
to
the
service
station
on
the
corner
using
cakes,
it's
an
ocean
there
has
not
only
flood
pits
a
hosted.
Then
you
see
this
lady
who
has
run
ddr
at
the
school
building,
because
every
time
an
insurance
company
stars
outside
paying
off
the
money
and
now
she's
selling
it.
So
we
did
you
do
something
right
away:
I,
miss
it!
M
B
Would
be
the
the
Mitchell
Ocean
I
would
point
out
that
this
the
first
time
and
I
don't
know
how
many
years
that
city
is
actually
gone
and
have
an
engineering
firm,
come
up
with
a
specific
solution,
and
now
we
have
a
number
to
go
after
so,
if
I
may
say,
I
hope
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction.
Councilmember
we're.
O
O
L
Mr.
mayor
well,
I
got
there's
cabbages
up
here.
I
wondered
two
or
three
things:
someone
thank
you
all
for
coming.
Both
you
mayor
and
this
cabbage
for
coming
to
the
window
mayor
burns
down
Neighborhood
Association,
to
meet
with
those
those
folks,
I
think
that
was
very
helpful.
Yes,
sir
number,
two
something
I,
don't
know
whether
this
council
realizes
just
I,
mean
this
whole
flooding
thing
seems
like
every
one
of
these
little
neighborhoods
has
has
a
kind
of
a
different
problem,
but
they
all
kind
of
end
up.
L
Well,
they
silt
in
as
the
the
outfall
out
in
the
marsh
as
the
tide
keeps
coming
in.
It
just
fills
that
ditch
up
that
was
put
there
originally,
so
that
you've
got
a
six
million
dollar
drainage
solution
that
was
working
fine,
but
as
that
outfall
silted
in
or
filled
up,
you
create
a
dam
and
so
you're
you're
you're
piping,
the
drainage
they
stay,
half
full
of
water
all
the
time
they
never
empty.
L
So
when
it
starts
raining
and
if
it
brings
more
water
in
and
you
have
a
flood
tide
away,
it
brings
more
silt
in
the
water-
just
keeps
rising
and
drainage
did
we
went
to
and
everytime
you
go
into
the
into
the
marsh
past
the
critical
line
you
have
to
get
a
permit
from
da
and
D
had
just
granted
us
a
permit
to
our
group.
Our
staff
has
gone
out
and
cleaned
out
those
ditches
all
up
to
the
critical
line.
L
Now
DHEC
has
said:
okay,
you
can
now
go
into
the
marsh
and
clean
out
that
outfall
that
you
can
only
use
shovels
and
that's
their
solution.
Now,
if
you
go
down
a
creek
and
around
the
peninsula
and
around
all
these
areas,
that's
exactly
the
same
thing.
That's
happening
everywhere
around
the
city
now
I
know
the
county
is
experiencing
the
same
problem
in
their
areas
and
I
understand
that
there
was
a
meeting
with
city
and
county.
Maybe
today,
with
DHEC
county.
BM
L
Then,
as
long
as
we
have
engineers
that
know
what
they're
doing
and
they
do
it
correctly,
that
we
don't
have
to
go,
get
a
set
weight,
six
or
nine
months
every
time
we
need
a
permit
to
go
out
into
that
launch.
If
we
can
vacuum
it
out
of
a
water
blast
it
out
or
get
out
there
with
shovels
whatever
it
takes,
we
need
to
be
able
to
do
that
with
well
wait
and
six
or
nine
months.
This
is
a
big
problem
for
our
city
and
it
would
go
a
long
way.
L
Several
of
us
have
said
no
house
should
flood,
because
our
pipes
are
too
small.
Our
ditches
are
not
cleaned
out
and
that's
just
part
of
the
ditch
and
it
was
granted
rigidly.
Why
can't?
We
restore
it
back
to
the
way
it
was
so
I'm
just
encouraging
it
as
far
as
this
report
here,
where
you've
got
these
updates
I'd
like
to
see
his
DHEC
of
going
to
grant
us
a
license
or
what
are
we
doing
to
work
on?
That
I
mean
we
need
to
get
our
delegation.
Senators
in
you
know
McCoy
all
these
people.
B
B
B
You
get
your
good
on
who
made
the
motion
and
second,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
now
for
third
reading
a
ratification
of
a
motion?
Second,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
next
is
bills
up
the
first
reading
we
have
an
ordinance
changing
zone
mat.
We
had
this
in
public
hearing
I
think
this
evening,
Clemens
Ferry
Road
to
be
Zone
RR,
one.
R
B
We
can
defer
this
and
ask
for
some
input
from
some
of
those
folks
here
tonight
and
the
organization's
they
represent.
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
the
the
ordinance
is
prescribed
to
be
for
residential
districts
and
not
for
commercial
districts,
and
so
I.
Don't
know
if
that
distinction
got
lost
on
some
folks
that
were
objecting
to
it,
but
it
wasn't
intended
for
commercial
districts
so
that
that's
one
thing
that
I
would
like
to
point
out
to
the
council
members.
In
addition,
it
allowed
for
later
our
operations
for
what
has
been
dubbed
low
impact.
B
L
I
think
that
would
have
been
a
move
it
should
have
been
done
before
this
is
brought
out,
so
should
have
been
a
meeting
between
maybe
the
homebuilders
Chamber
of
Commerce,
the
business
interest
and
I.
Don't
think
they
understood
that
quite
frankly
reading
it
I
didn't
understand
it
either
because
it
doesn't
say
it
talks
about
residential.
L
BD
L
AV
L
I,
don't
think
we
ought
to
be
passing
orders
that
we
don't
know
what
it's
what's
the
definition.
So
that's
why
I
moved
for
deferral?
The
other
thing
that
I
would
ask,
is
I,
wouldn't
I,
wasn't
really
sure
under
a
it
talks
about
this
loud
repetitive,
noise
between
the
hours
of
7:00
a.m.
and
7:00
p.m.
weekdays
at
9:00
a.m.
and
7:00
p.m.
L
on
Saturdays
and,
of
course,
as
I'd
say
about
Sunday,
so
I
assume
it's
not
allowed
on
Sunday,
but
then
you
go
down
to
B
and
it
talks
about
the
hours
between
7:00
and
11:00
on
weekdays,
in
between
the
hours
of
9:00
and
5:00
on
Sundays,
so
I
assume
Saturdays
are
not.
You
know,
work
low
noise,
you're
not
supposed
to
work
in
a
residential
district
on
Saturday.
Well,
that's
that's
the
day
most
most
of
us,
if
we
were
inclined
to
work,
would
be
out
there.
I
don't
understand
this
whole
thing.
C
So
this
is
gonna
impact.
A
lot
of
businesses
too.
So
I
think
we
need
to
have
some
sort
of
meeting
I,
don't
know
how
you
how
we
want
to
go
about
it,
but
I
mean
I,
think
we
need
to
bring
the
home
builders
and
some
of
those
players
the
chamber
to
the
table
and
find
out
how
we
can
come
up
with
something.
That's
a
little
bit
more
of
a
compromise,
long.
O
You
mister
mr.
Murai
I
think
it
has
merit,
but
I
agree
with
a
deferral,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
little
bit
more
structure
where
we
referring
it
to
I.
Think
this
needs
to
come
through
the
committee
process.
I
think
it
should
come
through
public
works
committee
process
and
and
all
that
could
be
vetted
out.
O
But
mr.
mayor,
this
is
new
business
and
it's
not
down
in
miscellaneous.
So
when
we
bring
up
new
business,
it's
in
miscellaneous
when
you
bring
up
new
business,
is
not
a
miscellaneous.
So
I
guess
it's
a
point
of
order
on
the
rules
account,
but
that's
it
I
recommend
if
you
go
into
through
it.
If
we
can
and
I've
support
that
motion
I
hope
you
defer
it
to
something
that
has
processed
refer
to
the
Public
Works
Committee
and
then
all
this.
BJ
That
we
need
to
look
at
this
differently,
define
because
I
live
on
Center
Street
and
their
joint
construction,
mobile
and
meeting
Street
right
at
Fayette
to
be
used
to
come,
come
down
the
Cooper
River
Bridge.
Well,
you
potatoes
crane
that
jackhammer
from
them
crane
seven
days
a
week.
It
seems
sometimes
I
wonder
who
talk
of
my
back
door,
because
just
like
this
in
the
backyard,
so
we
need
to
define
you
know
neighborhoods
at
the
time
of
operation.
That's.
P
BJ
It
you
got
cleaned
all
over
the
city
and
they
got
to
work,
but
but
Sunday's
should
be
a
day
that
they
don't
work
especially
doing
time,
people
in
church
itself,
because
just
churches
all
around
the
city
and
their
cronies,
all
around
the
city
but
I,
probably
not
mistaken.
It
was
an
ordinance
on
the
book,
the
tears
over
time
that
they
could
stop
doing
construction
work
in
a
blaze.
W
W
You
recall
about
six
or
seven
months
ago
a
lady
came
and
spoke
to
us
who
lived
in
West
Ashley
to
ask
about
this
and
I
don't
know
about
the
help
desk,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
people
from
my
district
I'm
their
help
desk
and
when
we
get
calls
about
Sunday's
or
late
at
night
and
people
wonder
why
there's
construction
going
on
and
on
the
violating
in
ordinance.
We
have
no
rules.
W
There
are
zero
rules
as
to
construction
in
any
part
of
the
city
where
Peninsula
during
church
hours,
Daniel
Island,
there's
no
prohibition
at
midnight
on
Sunday
of
the
noise
ordinance.
So
we
need
to
sit
down
with
the
stakeholders.
The
residents
and
the
people
involved
in
this
I
will
tell
you
on
Thanksgiving
morning
of
this
year,
I
woke
up
at
6:30
to
a
full
work
crew
next
door.
To
me,
I
mean
it's.
You
know,
there's
extremes
out
there.
W
We
need
to
find
a
happy
medium,
but
just
so
we're
clear
I
think
you
said
earlier
in
your
comments
that
there's
currently
a
prohibition
against
construction
and
residential
districts
in
the
city
of
Charleston
on
Sundays.
There
is
not
you
can
have
at
it
on
Sunday,
so
I
do
think
we
need
to
get
with
all
the
stakeholders.
I'm
happy
to
be
part
of
that
I.
Think.
A
lot
of
this
is
driven
not
by
downtown
by
residential
construction
and
there's
tons
of
it
going
on
in
other
parts
of
the
city.
W
BL
B
BL
Over
1900
there
I
had
Dan
Rico
with
me
many
days
because
the
beep-beep-beep
at
six
o'clock
in
the
morning
yeah
he
went
with
you
know
you
want
to
call
the
names
dance
but
anyway,
bottom
line
here.
Yes,
I
believe
we
came
up
that
they
could
work
six
to
six
or
six
to
gar.
Okay
and
my
phone
would
ring
5:30
AM
one
beep
beep
beep
out
here,
because
they
were
digging
the
retention
pond,
basically
prior
to
the
digging
of
the
retention
ponds.
BL
Oh
all
night
long
they
ran
the
pumps
to
draw
the
water
level,
and
so
several
enterprising
neighbors
of
mine
figured
out
how
to
turn
the
things
off
and
except
and
they've
got
really
upset
about
that.
But
yes,
Carolina
Bay
was
a
PUD,
but
it's
something
you
got
to
live
with.
I
mean
if
you're
going
to
buy
in
a
new
neighborhood.
BL
That's
one
story:
if
you're
going
to
be
in
a
current
neighborhood
or
a
story,
I
mean
that's,
we
can't
have
a
one-size-fits-all,
that's
what
I'm
saying
and
then,
of
course
they
all
sub
out
their
work
and
the
subs
they
don't.
Let
you
care
either.
BL
Booth
II
was
actually
finding
the
sub
it
wasn't
raised.
So
much
came
because
they
parked
on
both
sides
of
Street
and
you
couldn't
get
down
the
road
and
they
started
withholding
money
from
their
subcontractors
so
and
I've
had
mr.
Grady
come
visit
and
if
you
a
few
tickets
to
at
that
point
in
time,
so
I
mean
when
you're.
Looking
at
this,
it's
not
as
simple
as
hey.
BL
They
started
at
6
o'clock
and
they
shit's
good
and
start
till
7:00
I
mean
you
got
the
pumping
of
the
you
know
the
marsh
down
a
little
bit,
build
it
up,
build
houses,
you've
got
traffic,
you've
got
subcontractors,
something
to
do,
and
some
that
don't
speak,
English
some
that
do
and
some
don't
that
don't
care
what
day
of
the
week.
It
is
because
if
they've
worked
there
for
the
hours,
hey
I
can
work
Saturday
and
get
some
overtime.
So
so
this
is.
BH
You
know
I'm
certainly
concerned
about
people
being
able
to
rest
and
sleep
and
and
those
types
of
things
having
to
deal
with
construction
noise.
Particularly
you
know
the
the
banging
of
pile-driving
and
jackhammers,
and
things
like
that.
I
just
feel
like
that.
The
ordinance
here
is
just
maybe
a
little
too
vague.
For
example,
you
know
I
I'm,
not
a
construction
expert,
but
I
understand
that
mixing
cement
has
to
be
done
in
the
summer
time.
BH
BH
BI
One
and
I
agree
that
you
know
obviously
having
the
folks
who
are
directly
impacted
by
this
and
with
the
Home,
Builders
Association
chamber
and
others
having
an
opportunity
way
and
I.
Think
that's
you
know
appropriate,
but
I
will
say.
Actually
there
is
one
place
in
the
city
of
Charleston
that
currently
does
have
regulations
in
place.
Daniel
Island,
it's
part
of
the
covenants
and
restrictions
and
I
will
say
having
been
on
Daniel
for
about
14
years
and
dealt
with
all
the
houses
being
built.
That
was
the
first
on
my
street.
BI
It
is
kind
of
nice
having
it
sort
of
a
set
parameter
of
time
when
it
goes
quiet-
and
you
know
it's
nice
to
have
at
least
one
day
a
week
that
you
don't
have
the
banging
of
the
hammers
and
all
that
so
I
can
see.
Obviously,
the
need-
and
and
certainly
in
areas
that
have
a
lot
of
development
occurring
or
renovations
and
but
I
would
say
it's
it's
it's
there.
B
X
Put
conditions
on
but
they're
generally
with
the
consent
of
the
Builder
or
the
contractor,
and
in
in
cases
we
have
been
able
to
work
that
out.
But
there
is
nothing
that
specifically
gives
the
building
official
the
ability
to
place
those
time
restrictions
like
we're
asking
for
in
the
ordinance
in
the
building
permit,
but
again
in
situations
where
that
it's
been
particularly
noisy
and
neighborhoods
have
complained.
The
building
officials
have
worked
with
the
contractors
and
the
builders
and
have
been
able
to
agree
by
consent
to
some
conditions
that
are
then
added
to
the
to
the
permit.
X
The
noise
ordinance
is,
is
general,
and,
and
it
is
the
task
and
I
look
at
Dan
who
seems
to
be
most
popular
tonight,
but
it's
his
task
to
go
out
with
his
officers
in
each
case
and
make
a
decision
whether
the
noise
ordinance
has
been
violated
or
not.
So
it's
not
the
it's
not
the
perfect
fit
for
a
construction
noise.
X
B
B
As
amended
the
fur
as
amended
to
come
back
after,
we
gather
the
input
from
the
community
first
and
the
and
the
trade
associations
will
get
there
in
before
we
bring
it
back
to
a
committee.
Yes
right,
okay,
next
number:
three
is
the
matter
of
short-term
rental
changes:
council,
member
wearing
yeah.
First.
O
Thing
I
want
to
do
is
thank
all
my
friends
from
historic,
Chopin
and
Anson
bar
and
historic
neighborhoods
and
wagon
terrace,
and
all
of
them
for
coming
out
tonight.
Second
thing
I
want
to
do
is
is
thank
all
my
colleagues
and
you
for
granting
the
courtesy
of
deferring
this
while
I'm
here
from
last
last
month.
O
O
O
We
can't
have
any
input
as
a
city
or
to
increase
or
detract
or
take
away
or
men
anything
with
the
National
Historic
Registry,
but
we're
making
that
part
of
our
zoning
ordinance,
which
is
City
laws.
Now,
if
agency
a
committee,
the
bar
that
we
appoint
every
member
and
improve
all
of
the
criteria
when
we
step
outside
of
that
we
get
corrected,
we
need
to
learn
from
that
now
we
amend
the
city
ordinance
to
include
include
criteria
and
entity
that
we
have
no
say-so.
O
Our
citizens
are
entitled
to
equal
treatment
under
the
law.
That's
unequal
treatment
under
the
law,
both
residents
both
qualify,
but
for
one
being
on
the
registry.
Again
we
have
no
control
over
and
one
is
so.
The
idea
behind
this
was
not
to
increase
one
unit,
councilman
white
or
decrease
one
unit,
councilman
Griffin,
it
was
if
we
are
tested
in
court,
the
ratcheting
down
that
you
spoke
to.
Mr.
mayor
I
am
an
agreement
with
it
now.
I
have
a
very
good
conversation
with
Yvonne
rotten
baby
I'll
form
on
here.
The
plan
I.
O
Said
we
need
to
find
another
way
to
do
it
now,
if
that's
taking
some
of
the
criteria
from
the
registry
and
making
that
part
of
our
ordinance
I,
don't
know
that,
maybe
that's
the
pot
ahead
of
my
more
than
my
paygrade,
but
there's
ways
to
do
it.
This
country
put
a
man
on
the
moon,
brought
them
back
and
did
it
again
and
proved
it
over
again.
We
can
find
a
way
to
use
your
terminology
to
Ratchet
it
down.
That
would
treat
our
citizens
under
the
law
equally.
O
O
Now
there's
been
a
false
narrative
pushed
out
here
about
what
I
hope
to
accomplish
I
hope
to
accomplish
the
strength
in
that
aspect
that
you
referred
to
as
ratcheting
down
I,
never
wanted
to
increase
any
additional
units
in
Historic,
Charleston,
Ansan
borough
or
any
of
it.
When
we
voted
in
March
on
this
ordinance,
it
was
with
its
mafic
councilman
seeking
said.
Listen,
we've
got
up
this
thing
almost
put
to
bed.
O
Let's
move
forward,
we
can
continue
to
work
on
that
was
in
March
two
weeks,
late,
March
of
2018,
the
wasn't
gonna
go,
live
until
September
6
months,
two
weeks
later,
councilman
see
King's
myself,
yo
chief
of
staff
at
the
time
Josh
Martin,
Lindsey
I,
don't
know
if
mr.
mr.
Morgan
was
there
not,
but
mr.
bachelor
was
their
number
of
others,
and
we
discussed
these
four
or
five
bullet
points.
Okay,
two
of
them
got
put
in
right
away.
It
got
put
in
before
the
first
reading.
O
O
Maneuver
all
parking
was
taken
out
and
selecting
a
better
term
out.
I
call
this
back.
Our
convert
tandem
parking
was
allowed.
The
second
item
was
the
piece
that
councilman
Mitchell
Mitchell
talked
about.
In
a
limited
overlay
area
in
the
commercial
area,
allowing
it
above,
a
commercial
establishment,
like
bars,
exception,
okay,
but
other
areas
were
not
addressed.
O
These
are
just
yeah.
It's
an
amendment
tweaking
of
the
ordinance.
That's
all
we
had
plenty
of
time
for
those
changes
or
amendments
or
ideas
to
come
back
to
Council,
go
to
Planning,
Commission
and
subsequently
come
back,
and
that
six
month
period
of
time
for
the
items
would
never
address.
I,
don't
know
why
I
know
two
of
them
or
I
would
ask
our
Planning
people
when's
this
coming
back,
when's
this
coming
back
and
never
came
back.
That's
why
I
raised
the
issue
in
September.
O
Some
of
this
work
could
have
been
done
before
it
went,
live
and
I
hear
each
and
everybody
talking
about
the
narrative
of
let's
test
it.
Let's
test
it,
let's
test
it,
we
can
do
more
than
one
thing
at
a
time
we
actually
can
chew,
bubblegum
and
walk
at
the
same
time,
finding
a
way
that
we
can,
in
my
opinion,
have
have
this
National
Historic
Registry
aspect
to
reduce
our
ratchet
down
strengthened
from
a
legal
challenge.
We
can
actually
start
working
on
some
of
that
right
now.
O
We
could
have
been
working
on
it
from
March
to
September,
so
that
portion
and
I
hear
that
I
heard
was
better.
That
I
asked
him
the
state,
but
it
was
a
mister
wearing
that
came
to
that
microphone.
First
time,
I've
seen
him
in
the
life
and
one
of
the
things
he
said
was
we
don't
have
to
work
on
these
changes
individually
and
that's
part
of
the
false
narrative
that
I'm
alluding
to
this
has
always
been
a
week.
This
ordinance,
it's
never
been
of
them
in
this
ordinance.
O
All
of
us,
including
me,
graciously
think
the
work
that
the
task
force
did,
but
as
part
of
that
process,
I
also
think,
and
we
did
too
the
work
that
the
Planning
Commission
did
the
work
that
I'll
staffed
it
legal
as
well
as
zoning
and
others,
but
somehow
the
Planning
Commission
got
pushed
aside
and
the
collective
knowledge
their
goals
decades
of
service
to
this
city
working
on
ordinance.
Quite
frankly,
the
manoeuvrable
parking
versus
tandem
parking
came
from
the
Planning
Commission
I
believe
in
part
mr.
Mitchell's
I'm,
not
exactly
that
came
from
the
Planning
Commission.
O
There
were
some
very
good
ideas
from
the
Planning
Commission
that,
frankly,
some
were.
They
were
offended
them,
so
we
I
tried
to
bring
them
to
some
council
to
get
it
included.
So
it's
never
been
my
intent
to
scrap
the
ordinance.
It
was
to
enhance
the
ordinance
and
I
hope
you
would.
We
got
a
lot
of
numeric
people
around
the
table,
so
I
would
hope
you
pull
out
your
calculators
and
say
what
this
is.
O
O
What
is
the
right
number?
The
number
suggested
was
400
feet:
that's
a
little
bit
more
than
a
football
field
when
you
go
to
the
County
Courthouse
they
park,
you
in
the
comes
to
lump
Cumberland,
Street
parking
garage
and
you
actually
walk
to
the
courthouse
really
not
that
far
away.
When
I
spoke
to
the
attorney.
Mr.
McLean
II
I
suggested
600
feet
about
the
length
of
two
football:
here's
all
the
length
of
an
average
block
in
the
city,
a
child
sees
this
unit
or
these
units.
O
If
you
will
are
already
approved
in
the
overlay
district
and
we're
saying
you
cannot
park
in
a
garage
most
of
these
people,
oftentimes
uber.
Quite
frankly,
we
had
the
same
kind
of
pushback
with
uber
uber
and
lyft
an
outcry.
But
you
know
what
now
we
incorporate
that
modification
and
our
city
ordinances
so
that
doesn't
increase
and
reduce
the
quality
of
life
it's
already
approved
in
the
commercial
district.
O
An
attempt
to
help
a
one-off
type
situation,
or
certainly,
if
a
minor
situation
where
the
young,
lady
I,
don't
know
her
name.
I
forgot.
Her
name
came
up
at
a
number
hearings:
who's
renting
out
either
her
grandfather,
great-grandfather's
house
out
on
jeans
on
okay,
it's
short
term
run.
How
can
we
help
those
isolated
instances?
O
O
O
O
Fully
expect
some
to
and
fro
between
March
and
now
that,
just
simply
simply
hadn't
happened.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
I
think
councilmember
Mitchell
found
out
and
I
found
out
when
I
got
back,
that
the
actual
commercial
limited
area
that
he
was
talking
about
was
already
included
in
in
the
ordinance.
So
this
idea
that
we
can't
continue
to
test
it
and
we
can't
continue
to
strengthen
simultaneously
I
respectfully
disagree.
O
These
items,
I
am
NOT
asking
for
an
up
and
down
vote
tonight.
I
would
like
them
to
go
forward
to
the
Planning
Commission
as
we
continue
to
to
test
it.
The
Planning
Commission
has
some
very
good
ideas.
We
have
gotten
to
the
point
on
this
ordinance
where
it
is
so
highly
charged
until
there
are
members
of
our
Planning
Commission.
That
know
certain
aspects
isn't
fear,
but
for
fear
of
being
judged
on
a
dark
Clark,
they
say
nothing.
O
O
We
had
a
unanimous
vote
based
on
certain
items,
continued
to
be
looked
at
and
the
narrative
again
that's
been
pushed
out
of
one
or
the
other
and
I
respectfully
say
we
can
do
better
than
that
to
reach
the
best
practice.
We
reach
the
better
practices.
We
got
to
get
the
good
ideas
from
our
planning
staff
to
come
forth.
Thank.
L
I
just
want
to
say
a
couple
of
things:
kind
of
along
those
same
lines
and
I
agree
with
everything
that
council
member
wearing
said
to
begin
with,
because
I
don't
feel
like
this
is
an
us-versus-them
I
think
it
is,
at
least
in
my
opinion,
is
something
we're
trying
to
do
to
protect
the
neighborhoods.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
do
is
any
way
jeopardize
these
neighborhoods.
We
all
live
there
and
we
don't
need
these
hotels.
If
that's
what
you
want
to
call
them
the
neighborhood,
but
we
got
to
have
an
ordinance,
that's
enforceable.
L
When
we
were
discussing
this
thing,
there
were
just
like
about
every
board
form
we
have.
We
have
situations
that
that
don't
fall
within
that
that
we
would
like
to
have
included
and
I
asked
at
that
time
and
mr.
Waring
referred
to
it
is
there
some
way
that
we
can
go
through
a
process
that
these
things
can
come
forward
and
and
we
can
grant
some
type
of
a
variance
so
that
they
could
be
approved.
L
L
Does
everybody
get
that
about
the
explaining
the
rivet
revisions,
the
short-term
rental,
the
paragraph
by
paragraph,
because
when
I
read
the
ordinance
myself
I
was
kind
of
I
did
that
first
and
by
his
eyes
kind
of
rolled
back,
but
once
I
read
through
this
I
think
it's
six
pages
of
explanation
and
documentation
that
this
explains
a
lot
that
everybody
not
get
it.
Well,
that's
the
first
thing
that
ought
to
go
out
to
everybody:
they
came
from
love
last
minute:
Daniel
chips
and
Queenie
jr.
L
L
But
but
anyway,
well,
that
needs
to
that
needs
to
go
to
everybody
and
and
I
agree
with
what
council
member
wearing
this
same
I
just
wanted
some
way
to
approve
this
stuff,
and
so,
as
I
started.
Looking
through
all
this
stuff
and
a
lot
of
the
pushback
was
well,
let's
don't
change
it.
Let's
leave
it
the
same.
Let's
you
know,
let's
give
it
a
chance
to
try.
Well,
we
gave
it
nine
months
and
I'm
not
saying
that's
long
enough.
L
So
will
we
come
up
and
maybe
send
it
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
let
them
look
at
it
again
to
that,
we
can
give
it
some
more
time
to
bake,
because
when
we
pass
this
thing
finally
I
hope,
that's
pretty
much
the
end
of
it
I'm
hoping
we're
whatever
we
come
up
with
that,
that's
it
one
of
the
things
that
was
mentioned
in
this
letter
was
this
whole
thing.
This
whole
discussion
around
you
have
to
be
present
in
the
end
of
property.
I,
don't
know
how
you're
going
to
enforce
that.
L
L
Well
to
me,
that's
a
very
clear
delineation
of
what's
personal
and
what's
there
and
what's
not,
if
you
read
it
long
term,
it's
6%
doesn't
qualify
if
it's
if
it's
6%,
for
whatever
reason
it
doesn't
qualify,
so
it
has
to
be
a
4%
which
means
it
has
to
be
your
personal
residence
that
we
can
determine
whether
that's
somebody's
personal
residence
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
determine
whether
somebody's
present
or
not
I
challenge
you
I
mean.
Maybe
mr.
ratio
has
got
another
piece
of
software.
L
L
So
it's
my
personal
residence
I
go
to
someplace
for
a
couple
weeks:
I'm,
not
president
by
reddit,
but
it's
still,
my
personal
residence
that
would
qualify
and
and
I
think
this
whole
ordinate
surround
noise
and
and
disrupting
the
piece.
We
might
need
to
look
at
that
and
strengthen
that
a
little
bit
I
mean
I.
Don't
want
these
I,
don't
want
these
parties
and
stuff
going
on,
but
that
that's
a
clear,
delineation
and
I
know
we
have
trouble
and
maybe
I,
don't
know
whether
mr.
L
ratio
I
didn't
ask
him
in
advance
whether
how
he
felt
about
this
but
I,
know
we've
dealt
on
other
issues
with
zoning,
one
that
comes
to
mind
as
a
duplex,
but
it's
very
hard
to
take
somebody
into
court
and
prove
that
they
were
or
were
not
present
in
a
in
a
place.
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
you
prove
that,
and
that
would
be
the
burden
on
us
to
do
that.
Well,.
B
Maybe
your
intent
was
not
to
be
there
all
the
time
and
ran
out
your
whole
house,
and
so
a
bachelor
party
is
there
one
weekend
and
Dan
ratio
gets
a
call
and
he's
gonna
send
his
officer
out
there
and
they're
gonna
knock
on
the
door
and
as
well
where's
the
owner
of
that
home
he's
supposed
to
be
here
and
well.
They
will
find
out
whether
he's
there
or
not
right.
So
at
that
point,
that
provision
gives
us
some
authority
to
write
the
ticket
against
against
the
the
license
holder
for
that
short-term
rental.
No.
L
B
So
well,
II,
you
know,
if
that's
the
story,
you
can
get
a
phone
number,
you
can
wait
around
I
mean
there's
some
way
to
do
it.
You
would
only
do
it
in
that
special
exception
case
and
and
that's
the
beauty
of
our
current
ordinance
compared
to
what
we
had
before,
because
it
gives
you
a
menu
of
things.
That
would
in
essence
create
a
violation
in
that
correct,
and
so
you
might,
of
course,
if
you're
advertising,
you
don't
have
your
license
and
that's
a
violation.
B
If
you
get
a
license
and
you're
not
there,
you
know
we're
not
gonna,
be
monitoring
everybody
being
home
or
not
for
every
licensee
and
unless
there's
a
problem,
but
it
gives
us
that
a
broad
scope
where
we
can,
where
it
becomes
overall,
more
enforceable
I'm
just
responding
to
that
one
case,
maybe
Dan
can
offer
something.
Yes,.
BN
BN
The
argument
I
raise
is
well.
We
can't
be
at
every
house
all
the
time.
Just
like
a
police
officer,
you
can't
be
there
enforcing
every
little
law
at
every
street
corner
and
house.
However,
if
I
call
it
self
policing,
if
you
have
a
permit
to
rent
a
property
or
short-term
basis
and
the
tenants
are
unruly,
creating
disturbance,
creating
trash
issues,
whatever
someone's
going
to
be
called,
the
police
US
will
definitely
be
able
to
follow
up
to
determine,
in
fact,
if
the
owners
there,
but
that
is
not
one
of
my
major
concerns.
L
L
There
ought
to
be
a
number,
a
telephone
number,
a
contact
piece
of
information
for
that
person,
and
then
the
fine
becomes
automatic
against
that
that
property
owner
forget
about
all
this
present
stuff
that,
if
there's
a
problem,
the
fine
is
assessed
right
then
against
it,
it's
a
mandatory
fine.
That
makes
them
either
stay
there
or
be
sure
somebody's
close
by
watching
that
we
don't
have
to
bother
I,
think,
there's
a
better
way
to
do
it.
That's
all
I'm,
saying.
BI
A
lot
of
the
folks
who
spoke
tonight
or
constituents
of
mine
in
the
French,
Quarter,
Nansen,
borough
and
you've
heard
the
issues,
but
I
will
tell
you.
I
was
surprised
had
a
lot
of
calls
from
the
people
I
represent
on
Daniel
Island,
with
concerns
that
permits
are
being
issued
in
actually,
my
neighborhood
to
particular
I
got
a
call
yesterday
from
a
woman
who's
very
concerned.
The
person
lives
there
25%
of
the
time
and
is
going
to
get
a
permit
to
do.
BI
Vrbo
in
the
house
and
and
her
contention
was
exactly
what
you
heard
and
hear
from
the
folks
who
I
represent
in
town.
They
don't
want
that
issue
created
in
their
neighborhood
either
I
I.
Don't
want
that
next
to
my
house,
either
I,
don't
think
anybody
does
if
it
wasn't
a
problem
we
wouldn't
be
here
today.
If
everybody
was
was
in
great
shape
and
did
exactly
what
they're
supposed
to
do
and
they
were
respectful
of
their
neighbors.
We
would
not
even
have
a
discussion.
The
problem
is,
that's
not
happen.
BI
We're
here
tonight
and
we've
done
what
we've
done
make
making
it
very
strict.
Won't
one
we've
actually
made
it
legal
because
it
was
illegal
before,
but
we've
made
it
intentionally
strict,
because
if
we
don't
we're
really
not
going
to
be
able
to
control
the
situation
now,
I'm,
not
sincere
here
to
tell
you
that
we
don't
need
to
tweak
it.
BI
That's
why
we
have
variances
that
we
give
through
every
other
board
in
our
city,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
we're
here,
because
we
have
a
problem.
The
problem
is
very
prolific
downtown,
but
the
people
in
the
suburbs,
Daniel,
Island,
West,
actually
another
everywhere
else.
They
are
now
concerned.
You
know
there
was
a
little
orange
sign
that
went
in
somebody's
yard
a
couple
days
ago
and
said
they
were.
You
know,
asked
for
a
permit
and
I
got
calls
from
everyone
on
that
street
and
there
and
and
the
community's
first
reaction
was.
BI
Why
did
you
guys
pass
this
law?
We're
gonna?
Have
this
huge
proliferation
of
it
in
our
neighborhood?
We
don't
want
this
to
happen
and,
as
I
explained
to
him,
you
know
we
had
some
very
strict
guidelines
that
you
have
to
adhere
to,
hopefully
to
eliminate
those
issues
being
created,
but
everybody
has
the
same
concern.
So
I
can
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
one
thing
and
I
said
this
before
the
law
as
written.
BI
It
does
create
different
categories,
so
we
can
actually,
in
essence,
give
different
treatment
for
different
parts
of
the
city
to
make
sure
that
the
law
does
apply
and
the
best
way
possible
for
every
geography,
because,
whether
you
like
it
or
not,
we
are
one
city,
but
every
part
of
this
city
is
different.
So
that's
the
one
good
news
story
and
I'm
not
saying
that
we
don't
need
to
tweak
what
we
have,
but
we
certainly
don't
want
to
do
things
in
a
manner
quickly
that
we
could
end
up
having
to
go
back
later
and
find
out.
BI
We
maybe
reacted
a
little
bit
too
quickly.
We
loosened
up
here
and
the
unintended
consequence
was
X,
Y
or
Z.
So
I
would
just
say
that
at
this
point
in
time-
and
obviously
you
know
I'm
not
in
support
of
making
any
it's
to
it
it,
but
that
doesn't
preclude
in
the
future
that
once
we
have
some
some
information,
that's
meaningful
that
we
can
say.
Okay,
you
know
mr.
eto,
the
planning
staff
and
others
have
said
to
us.
You
know:
hey
counsel,
here's
our
recommendation,
because
we
you
do
need
to
tweak
it.
BI
It
does
need
to
be
changed
in
this
manner
or
that
manner
to
be
impactful.
But
my
fear
is
that
if
we
try
to
do
things
too
quickly,
without
having
all
that
information,
we
may
end
up
having
to
reverse
what
we
did
in
the
future,
because
we
may
find
out
they
didn't
really
do
we
want
it
to
do
so
anyway.
I'll
call
with
that
and
may.
B
I
reply
also
councilmember
Perry.
Thank
you
for
sharing
that
one,
your
intent,
but
to
ratchet
this
not
to
ratchet
this
down
and
as
councilmember
white
said,
I
mean
we
intentionally,
even
though
we
legalized
it.
We
kept
this
thing
very
restrictive
for
four
reason,
because
there
there
is
an
issue
and
it's
it's
not
just
to
liveability.
B
That
there
truly
is
an
impact
on
on
affordability
in
this
city
and
the
the
lady
from
Mount
Pleasant
was
advocating
for
the
changes,
but
you
know
she
mentioned
that
she
owned
the
house
near
Avondale,
West
Ashley,
and
that
she's
able
to
get
a
hundred
and
sixty
dollars
a
night.
You
know
renting
what
is
probably
most
of
the
houses
over
there
with
thousand
twelve
hundred
square
feet
at
most.
B
If
it's
allowed
to,
if
our,
if
we
open
the
gate
and
and
you
can
make
that
kind
of
income
off
of
it,
so
there
really
is
a
big
impact
and
I
just
wanted
to
be
careful
and
I'm
going
to
also
say
I
mean
we
really
tried.
We
had
some
conversations
during
those
months
after
March
and
I
I
met
with
planning
staff
a
number
of
times
to
talk
about
different
options
that
we
might
explore,
including
a
floating
zone
and
some
kind
of
variances
and
and
the
feedback
I
kept.
Getting.
B
Was
that
that
legally,
it
was
very
difficult
and-
and
we
you
know,
were
in
trouble
of
raising
that
floodgate
to
let
a
lot
of
people
in
and
I
know.
Some
particular
cases
came
before
us
and
kind
of
tugged
at
our
heartstrings
we'd,
really
like
to
give
this
lady
an
exception.
She
really
you
feel
like
she
deserves
it,
but
we
talked
it
with
ours.
O
Muir,
just
just
to
that's
part
of
the
buzz
words
that
I
say
the
Fox
now
I
know
you
didn't
mean
that
as
a
jab
right,
but
the
example
that
you
used
about
the
lady
in
South
Windermere
all
right
and
open
up
the
floodgates,
nothing
I've
said,
but
contributes
to
that
trying
to
strengthen
equal
treatment
under
the
law,
trying
to
have
a
criteria
as
in
our
hardness
by
it's
part
of
municipal
law.
That's
not
with
the
entity
that
we
have
no
say-so
in.
O
Please
pay
attention
that
would
happen
to
us
in
the
in
the
Jasper
suit
with
the
beach
company.
One
of
the
fears
that
mayor
Rowley
had.
He
certainly
conveyed
it
to
me
that
if
we
don't
watch
out,
we
may
lose
the
bar
now
out
of
all
that
bad
came
some
good.
What
was
the
good
we
restructured?
The
bar
we
brought
in
mister
Dewani,
I,
hope,
I'm
pronouncing
his
name
accurately.
We've
developed
the
big
bar
in
a
small
bar
we're
better
as
a
result
of
a
negative
incidence.
O
They
stepped
outside
the
criteria
that
we
set.
We
are
now
putting
a
criteria
in
place
that
we
don't
have
a
say-so
in
as
a
city,
so
they
have
nothing
to
do
with
all
due
respect
with
the
example
with
in
South
Windermere
right,
we
can
find
a
way
to
provide
equal
treatment
under
the
law,
with
the
criteria
that
we
vote
on
and
we,
as
a
city
and
in
representative
of
citizens,
have
some
control
right
now
we're
deferring
that.
Okay,
now
what
happens
when
the
citizens
comes?
O
B
B
This
ordinance
forward,
it
was
vetted
by
our
legal
department
that
we
felt
you
know
we
we
would
be
able
to
that.
It
would
stand
up
in
court,
so
I'm
glad
to
investigate
that
I'm.
Not
a
lawyer,
but
I
hear
you
that
that
might
be
a
concern,
but
it
wasn't
when
we
brought
this
thing
forward
to
begin
with
and
glad
to
look
at
that
I.
L
X
That
beat
that
he
should
being
considered
specifically
I
know
the
ordinance
was
vetted
over
and
over
again
legally
and
there
wasn't
any
conclusion
that
there
was
a
legal
weakness,
at
least
based
upon.
We
knew
at
the
time,
but
certainly
we're
happy
to
go
back
and
look
at
that
specific
issue.
If
counsel
would
like
us
to
that's.
W
Just
very
briefly,
I
think
councilmember
white
really
sort
of
nailed
it
for
the
downtown
we
do
have
Zone.
One
I
was
taken
by
the
lady
who
you
referred
to
from
Mount
Pleasant,
who
made
a
number
of
things
and
one
of
the
things
that
she
was
focused
on.
She
said
we
need
to
make
sure
we
keep
affordability
for
visitors.
That's
what
she
said.
That's
retention,
that's
exactly
wrong!
Right!.
W
That's
one
of
the
things
that
this
ordinance
does
in
zone.
Well,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
here
is
we're
not
regulating
private
property
rights,
we're
regulating
commercial
activity
and
we
will
easily
withstand
constitutional
scrutiny
and
any
challenge
if
we
base
it
on
anything
that
you
can
touch
feel
and
it's
evenly
applied,
which
it
is
you
have
to
be
on
the
on
the
registry
in
zone.
One
that's
I
mean
just
my
opinion,
as
a
lawyer
are
gonna.
Learn.
W
Next
me
we've
got
one
here
is
when
you're
regulating
commercial
activity,
it's
the
lowest
standard
of
constitutional
scrutiny,
and
we
can
do
that.
We
do
it
all
the
time
and
we
tell
lawyers
where
they
can
put
their
offices.
We
tell
doctors
where
they
can
put
their
offices.
We
do
all
those
things
and
you
can't
do
it
in
your
residence
right
I
mean
you
can't
open
up
a
doctor's
office.
W
South
Broad
can't
do
it
so
I
just
think
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
the
most
skeptical
about
and
I
think
everybody
on
this
table
was
was
the
enforcement
end
of
things,
and
you
saw
we
got
a
report
from
mr.
Reacher
today,
the
enforcement
end
is
going
pretty
well,
as
is
the
application
process
to
become
legal
every
one
of
the
short-term
rentals.
That's
out
there,
with
very
few
exceptions,
was
illegal
before
we
started
this
process
and
the
whole
idea
about
you
can't
monitor
every
person
in
their
house
all
the
time.
W
That's
not
what
we're
requiring
are
ASCII
of
mr.
Ricci.
It's
only
people
have
come
and
gone
through
the
permitting
process
which,
since
this
is
opened
up
dan,
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I'm.
Looking
that
we've
only
issued
since
we
opened
this
up,
20
new
permits
that
right,
where's
dan
back
there.
That's
in
your
list,
so
that's
20
houses
that
are
now
on
his
radar
that
when
someone
has
to
be
living
in
at
the
time
they
do
a
short-term
rental.
W
This
whole
idea
of
making
residential
districts,
commercial
enterprises
is
dangerous
and
it
will
really
come
back
and
hurt
us
long-term,
economically
as
a
city
and
who
we
are,
and
nowhere
is
that
more
apparent
than
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
had
on
both
sides
of
the
river,
with
short-term
rentals
and
many
of
them,
which
are
quite
extreme.
So
this
ordinance,
councilmember
white,
said
this.
W
When
we
first
started
this
debate,
I
wrote
it
down
and
I've
remembered
it
ever
since,
and
he
said
that
many
cities
have
taken
up
this
issue
of
regulating
short-term
rentals
and
no
one
has
gotten
it
right
yet,
and
that
was
before
we
embarked
on
what
was
really
almost
a
two-year
process.
I,
don't
know
if
we've
gotten
it
right
or
not
yet,
but
it
seems
like
we've
gotten
closer
than
anybody
else,
and
the
only
way
to
find
out
is
to
get
it
through
a
process
of
maturing
and
we're
I
think
mr.
W
smight
said
100
and
some
days
into
this,
but
we're
only
60
days
into
enforcement
and
we've
already
taken
off
almost
25%
of
the
illegally
advertised
units.
That's
a
success.
That's
625
hotel
rooms
illegally
being
operated
that
are
now
off
the
books
in
the
city
of
Charles
and
that's
when
and
we
just
need
to
sort
of
see
how
this
goes
through.
So
I,
like
counsel,
my
boy
would
like
to
see
the
signature
I
agree
that
there
will
be
some
things
we're
going
to
need
to
talk
about
after
we've
looked
at
it
holistically
and
I
recommend.
W
We've
been
at
a
year
and
a
half
of
this.
It's
it
apparently
is
working.
We
need
to
go
behind
and
see
if
it's
really
working
but
apparently
is
working.
Every
single
neighborhood
that
came
forward
tonight,
Anson
borough,
the
French
Quarter,
let's
pulse
town
cannon
bar
Eliot
borough,
musique,
Rhaego,
Wagner,
Terrace,
Radcliffe
Borough.
All
of
them
asked
that
we
give
this
thing
another
at
least
nine
months,
if
not
a
year
in
zone,
one
I
don't
know
how
we
can
deny
them
that
they've
worked
hard
for
this
and
I
think
everywhere
else.
W
We
need
to
see
in
the
zone
three
areas
where
people
are
now
getting
permitted.
How
that
works?
Do
you
want
to
have
commercial
enterprise
on
your
residential
street?
Our
constituents
across
this
city
in
every
one
of
the
12
district
lets
know,
with
some
exceptions
in
zone
3.
Let's
see
how
that
works
and
I
was
interested
to
hear
councilmember
White's
commentary
about
as
soon
as
a
permanent
went
up.
People
started
calling
immediately
about
it,
so
we're
getting
that
feedback
as
we
notice
the
public
hearings
for
legally
operating
short-term
rentals.
W
O
I,
like
the
dress,
something
that
councilman
seeking
said
he
said,
making
residential
district
commercial
entities,
nothing
I
say
it.
Does
it
okay.
So
again,
that's
part
of
now
to
taking
me
out
of
context
and
with
all
due
respect,
counselor,
you
disagree
with
judge
Norton's
ruling
and
the
ruling
was
so
strong
that
we
we
dare
not
appealed
it.
O
O
Neighborhoods
into
commercial
entities,
nothing
that
I've
said
the
taking
some
of
the
equal
treatment
under
the
law
and
unturn
into
a
commercial
entity.
Hopefully
we're
gonna
find
a
way
to
make
it
stronger
if
challenge
the
an
entity.
That's
already
a
unit,
that's
in
a
commercial
district
being
able
not
a
neighborhood
in
a
commercial
district
already
in
the
overlay
district
already
approved
by
this
ordinance
being
able
to
park
in
the
garage
and
the
spa's
a
waiting
list,
that's
the
long
term
uses
the
short
term.
Rental
is
for
short
term
uses.
W
O
B
O
O
Take
some
information
from
our
Planning
Commission,
so
I'm
not
asking
for
up-and-down
rules
I'm
asking
for
to
go
forth
to
the
Planning
Commission,
so
they
review
only
on
these
three
or
four
bullet
points,
the
ordinance
within
the
context
of
the
office.
We
don't
want
a
new
ordinance
or
anything
like
that.
So
I'm
asking
it
at
motion
this
bullet
to
go
forward
to
the
Planning,
Commission
and
I.
Certainly
agree.
B
W
W
That
is
going
to
be
impossible
to
retrieve
absolutely
impossible.
We've
got
an
ordinance
on
the
books.
Let's
let
it
go
forward
if
it
needs
some
tweaking
after
we've
seen
how
it
works.
Fine
and
if
there's
a
conversation,
we
as
a
council
need
to
have
with
the
Planning
Commission.
Let's
do
it
in
that
joint
meeting,
rather
than
this
sends
something
over
there,
which
I
don't
believe.
W
If
we
had
a
vote
on
these
amendments,
the
night
of
this
council
would
get
through
so
we're
asking
them
to
review
something
that
has
not
been
approved
by
council
and
if
we
put
it
for
an
up-and-down
vote,
I,
don't
think
council
member-
and
we
can
put
it
up
for
vote
it'll,
get
past
this
council,
so
I,
don't
think
sunny.
If
the
Planning
Commission
has
any
weight
on
us,
it
does
does
anything
come.
B
BI
I
mean
we
would
had
a
task
force
that
convened,
for
you
know
a
substantial
amount
of
time
to
basically
come
up
with
this
and
it.
It
would
seem
to
me
that,
if
we're
going
to
make
adjustments
to
the
ordinance,
would
it
not
make
more
sense
to
reconvene
that
that
group
and
I
understand
that
there
were
some
question
as
to
whether
that
group
was
maybe
hold
this
stick
enough?
BI
Maybe
there
were
some
other
folks
who
need
to
be
involved
in
that
that
weren't
involved
in,
but
but
it
would
seem
to
me
that
it
would
make
more
sense
or
excuse
me
not
more
sense,
but
it
would
make
sense
for
us
to
reconvene
that
group
to
say.
Okay,
we've
had
some
time,
maybe
not
enough
yet,
but
we
at
some
point.
BI
We
will
reconvene
that
group
to
say:
we've
had
some
time
to
review
and
we'd
like
you
all
to
know,
because
that
that
group
is
a
subject
matter,
experts
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
they
basically
helped
write
this
law.
They
know
all
the
discussions
that
occurred
throughout
that
entire
process
as
to
you
know
why
the
maneuverability
was
put
in
and
why
the
the
national
registry
was
put
in
it
too.
So
for
us
to
go
back
and
make
tweaks
to
it.
It
just
seems
to
me
that
might
be
the
right
solution.
BI
If
there
were
some
question
as
to
whether
that
group
was
made
up
of
all
the
right
people,
maybe
they
need
to.
Maybe
we
need
to
supplement
that
group
with
some
folks
who
might
you
know,
may
not
have
had
a
seat
at
the
table
and
I'm
not
saying
that?
That's
there
wouldn't
be
the
case,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
I
kind
of
I'm
a
little
fearful
if
we
send
this
to
planning
task
them
to
weigh
in
if
they
effectively
say
the
same
thing.
BI
We're
saying
we
don't
have
enough
information,
but
but
hear
me
out-
and
this
is
really
a
selfish
point
and
counsel
Mercedes
probably
is
going
to
understand
what
I'm
talking
about
I
I
went
into
a
meeting
today
for
one
hour,
I
came
out,
I
had
13
voicemails
as
of
last
night,
I
had
about
125
emails,
and
that
was
when
I
stopped
reading
email
at
about
9
o'clock
class
I
haven't
even
checked
email.
Today,
I
probably
got
another
200
for
the
love
of
God.
Please.
BI
Constituent
engagement,
some
point,
I
can't
answer
all
the
calls
door
answer,
all
the
email.
So
if
anyone
is
in
this
room,
you
left
me
a
voicemail.
You
haven't
heard
from
me:
I
apologize,
yeah,
and
so,
but
my
point
in
saying
that
is:
is
that
I
don't
want
us
to
to
send
it
to
them
and
then
it
well?
It
will
just
kind
of
everyone
who's
concerned
and
we
heard
from
tonight
will
be
sitting
on
the
edge
of
their
seat
for
the
next.
BI
O
Misdemeanor
can
I
respond?
Yes,
I'm!
Ok
with
it!
This
idea
that
a
dialog
cannot
continue
until
nine
months
or
a
year
down
the
road
I
disagree
with.
We
can
continue
to
work
on
this
little
tweaking.
While
we
continue
to
test
it.
I'm
fine
I,
don't
think
we
as
far
as
fairness
on
that
task
force,
I'm
not
willing
to
I'm,
not
asking
to
change
it
or
anything
like
that.
I
think
it's
a
great
job
and
you're
right.
They
have
institutional
knowledge
on
this,
but
them,
along
with
the
Planning
Commission,
are
not
illegal.
I.
O
BJ
BJ
I
would
suggest
one
thing
it
is
up
to
you
to
accept
it.
Legal
is
sitting
here
to
hear
your
concern.
The
Planning
Department
are
sitting
here.
They
hear
your
concern.
Why
don't
you
give
them
a
month
to
sort
it
look
at
it
to
see
what
they
can
do
to
address
the
concerns
that
you
got.
You
may
have
talked
to
one
person
in
the
planning
department
how
one
through
the
legal
apartment,
perhaps
they
could
put
their
heads
together.
It
can
come
up
with
some
suggestions
to
what
your
concerns.
O
O
X
AY
O
Well
again,
the
input
extra
infant
I'm
for
doing
nothing
in
between,
and
this
is
why,
because
virtually
nothing
happened
for
six
months
and
we
could
have
been
doing
something
doing
from
March.
With
the
exception
of
two
items,
mr.
Muir,
we
could
have
been
doing
something
between
March
and
September
4
2004
ankling,
part
of
us.
It
looks
like
it's
a
stall
for
another,
not
first
of
a
6
months,
9
months,
I've
heard
a
year.
We
can
continue
to
work
on
solutions.
Okay,
that's
all
I'm,
saying
so:
I'm
not
trying
to
restrict
input.
O
If
that
task
force
wants
to
come
back
and
it's
to
pledge
their
counsel
to
have
them
have
input
along
with
planning
and
legal.
Only
on
these
three
or
four
bullet
points
I'm.
Finally,
so
how
about
I
need
copper,
so
I
look
I,
guess
maybe
we
need
to
decide
whether
we
going
to
ask
the
task
force
to
recoup.
BJ
I
think
you
need
to
decide
right
now:
legal
and
the
planning
department,
people
who
are
paid
by
this
administration.
Okay,
to
do
a
job
to
look
at
this
and
come
back
to
tell
you
rhythms.
We
need
to
reconvene
to
reconvene
the
task
force
all
they
could
come
up
with
some
suggestions
for
you
to
make
this
work,
especially
if
the
historical
part
is
the
part.
That's
one
key
part.
That's.
O
BJ
O
BJ
BJ
BI
I
can't
remember
why,
maybe
it
seems
like
to
me
what
we're
sort
of
what
we're
trying
to
seek
out
here
is
a
way
forward
in
the
process,
and
so
maybe
let
me
make
a
suggestion
that
you
know
planning
illegals.
You
know
a
lot
of
what
we've
talked
about
tonight
is
all
fresh
and
new
to
us,
and
it's
certainly
fresh
in
there
to
them.
So
maybe
the
best
path
forward
for
tonight
would
be
that
we
asked
legal
staff
and
planning
staff
to
come
together.
BI
That
includes
at
some
point,
going
back,
obviously
through
the
Planning
Commission,
because
if
we
give
it
first
rating
is
going
do
that
anyway,
and
it
also
includes
the
reconvening
of
the
task
force
and
a
review
of
the
members
of
the
original
task
force
to
ensure
that
we
do
have
a
very
holistic
approach
that
everyone's
got
to
see
to
the
table.
So
we
don't
have
this
contention
that
we
didn't
get
hurt
or
we
did.
We
didn't
get
hurt
so
that
if
it's,
if
there's
a
Thursday
group
missing
from
that
task
force,
so
we
added
to
it.
BI
O
Of
those
sunk,
it
does
what
kind
of
time
frame
you're.
Putting
on
that,
because
remember
that
come.
O
R
O
BI
Think
the
motion
would
be
that
we're
instructing
legal
staff
and
planning
staff
to
work
together
to
develop
a
path
forward
for
reviewing
potential
tweaks
that
were
identified
in
this
ordinance
amendment
that
include
a
reconvening
of
tax
task
force
and
a
review
of
the
members
of
the
task
force,
so
that
we
understand
that
it's
got
a
holistic
approach
to
that
group.
The
Planning
Commission
component
comes
either
way
because,
as
soon
as
we
give
it
first
reading,
it
automatically
goes
back
to
them.
So
I
think
that's
and
then.
R
BJ
BI
O
BI
B
BG
BJ
BI
The
emotion
is
that
legal
and
planning
that
we're
correcting
legal
and
planning
staff
to
put
together
a
path
forward
or
process
forward
for
reviewing
the
tweaks
to
the
amended
to
the
ordinance
has
to
be
amended.
That
includes
a
reconvening
at
the
task
force
and
review
the
the
members
of
the
task
force
to
ensure
that
there's
a
holistic
approach
to
all
the
members
of
that
of
that
task
force.
The
Planning
Commission
components
automatic
that.
BG
This
is
just
a
quick
question
to
our
planning
department.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
we
already
know
where
the
Planning
Commission's
position
is
on
most
of
these
issues,
because
you
did
give
us
a
side-by-side
and
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
we
didn't
take
any
of
the
recommendations
from
the
Planning
Commission.
We
adopted
the
recommendations
from
the
task
force,
the
point
I'm
making
is
we
already
know
based
upon
what
the
Planning
Commission
submitted
before
we
adopted
the
task
force
is
recommendation.
BG
We
already
know
what
they're
going
to
say,
particularly
with
regard
to
some
of
these
specific
issues,
because
they
were
contrary
to
them.
So
I'm,
just
not
sure
where
we're
going
to
end
up
with
this,
when
we
already
know
we're
at
the
Planning
Commission
Stan
on
some
of
these
issues.
What
are
we
doing?
Well,.
B
I
would
respectfully
say
that
we
do
have
a
little
time
and
experience
now
under
our
belt.
We
started
enforcement
and
that
will
continue
for
the
next
month.
So
when
we
review
the
ordinance
with
with
anybody
the
original
task
force
or
with
the
Planning
Commission,
they
will
have
some
new
information
about,
what's
been
going
on
the
last
few
months.
So
so
they
may
have
a
different
perspective
on
things.
Z
B
C
Doesn't
isn't
part
of
the
vote,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I'm
interested
to
see
after
about
a
year
how
many
people
have
actually
gone
to
get
a
license
and
do
this
legally,
because
my
girlfriend
made
me
go
clean,
a
short-term
rental
that
she
was
managing
in
another
municipality,
and
that
was
it
for
me.
It.
C
R
B
A
B
Do
have
the
motion
on
the
floor
number?
Three.
So
could
we
the
motion?
We
just
made,
you
know
kind
of
skirted
around
the
the
original
ordinance
change
that
was
proposed,
so
we
need
the
the
table
defer
withdrawal,
the
existing
motion,
a
motion
to
defer
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it,
and
so
now
we
do
have
a
request
to
have
a
discussion
regarding
current
ordinances
related
to
panhandling,
councilmember,
Griffin
I,
believe
this
was
your
request.
I'm.
C
C
Like
to
follow
up
with
what
our
constituents
are
saying
on
social
media,
West,
Ashley
United's
a
popular
place
for
people
to
put
comments
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
recently
look
about
panhandling,
and
so
what
it
caused
me
to
do
is
reach
out
our
legal
department
to
find
out
what
the
ordinance
is
today.
I
guess
we're
taking
a
break
right
now
we're
missing
like
half.
C
Wanted
to
find
out
what
her
ordinance
was
today,
I
wanted
to
see
what
it
was
back
in
2014
I
wanted
to
see
what
it
was
from
its
inception
and
the
reason
why
is
because
I
read
an
article
in
the
new
posting
career
I,
don't
usually
read
it,
but
I
read
it
and
really
was
kind
of
motivated
me
based
on
Ventura
California,
and
what
they're
doing
as
a
city
they've
got
a
program
called
Ventura,
safe
and
clean
public
places.
Initiative
and
I
want
us
as
a
city,
because
we've
made
homelessness
a
priority.
C
The
mayor
has
made
it
a
priority
and
is
his
mayorship
and
and
had
a
really
great
concert
series
I
want
us
to
create
some
sort
of
task
force
where
we
look
at
not
necessarily
our
ordinance,
because
our
ordinance
is
pretty
strong
and
our
legal
department
could
tell
you,
you
cannot
have
a
perfect
ordinance
and
when
it
comes
to
this
subject,
but
you
know
there's
specific
questions
that
have
to
be
addressed
in
an
ordinance
regarding
panhandling.
It's
not
the
focus
is
not
on
the
who,
but
rather
the
what
and
why
and
so
the
why?
C
C
You
have
all
these
new
shops
that
is
going
to
be
a
spot
where
panhandling
is
going
to
happen,
because
you
have
so
much
foot
traffic
and
its
revival
eyes
there,
and
because
of
that,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
protect
our
residents
and,
at
the
same
time
we
have
to
realize
that
we
have
a
problem.
Is
we
can't
blame
the
person
who's
asking
for
the
money,
but
what
we
can
do
is
direct
them
to
the
resources.
I
know
we're
opening
up
a
new
daytime,
homeless,
shelter.
C
I
think
we
need
to
have
an
initiative
that
we
can.
We
could
put
signs
up
that
tell
people
tourists,
don't
give
your
money
to
the
people
on
the
street,
donate
it
to
some
sort
of
I,
don't
know
charity
or
if
it's
our,
what
we're
doing
as
a
city
to
to
get
homeless.
You
know,
stop
homelessness.
You
know
these.
These
things
are
all
tied
together,
but
we
have
to
keep
our
citizens
safe.
C
We
can't
have
aggressiveness
aggressive,
behavior
and
as
we
revitalize,
but,
and
you
know
we
have
to
give
our
police
officers,
you
know
a
fair
chance
to.
We
have
to
make
sure
our
public
understands
that
if
there's
any
sort
of
aggressive
behavior
call
9-1-1,
don't
just
go
and
post
about
it
on
social
media,
you
know
but
I
think
some
sort
of
task
force
to
look
at
this
issue
and
come
up
with
what
Ventura
California
did
hand
up,
not
hand
down.
I
love
that
and
I
think
that
would
be
great
for
us.
I.
C
O
B
First,
thank
you
for
bringing
this
up
to
the
full
council,
because
it
continues
to
be
a
matter
of
concern
to
our
city
and
to
deal
with
not
only
those
experiencing
homelessness
with
compassion,
but
with
the
issue
of
panhandling
is
incumbent
upon
us
to
do,
and
that's
the
reason
why
one
of
the
reasons
that
led
to
the
formation
of
our
day
Resource
Center
too,
so
that
we
could
have
a
compassionate
alternative
and
that
hand
and
to
help
people
move
on
in
their
lives
if
they
were
willing
to
accept
that
help.
B
So
we
we
do
have
the
mayor's
Commission
on
homelessness.
You
know
that
was
founded
shortly
after
I
became
mayor.
It's
it's
it's
it's
kind
of
an
adjunct
body
because
it
includes
the
other
mayor's
in
the
region
and
not
just
a
city
city
organization.
So
to
speak,
so
I'd
be
happy.
We
don't
really
need
to
form
another
new
group.
B
We
got
one
and
we
can
take
this
matter
to
them,
and
would
it
be
happy
to
have
you
come
to
the
next
meeting
and
share
your
passion
about
this
and
then
also
take
it
to
a
public
safety
committee
as
well
of
council.
If
that
sounds
acceptable,
yeah
all
right,
no
I,
don't
think
we
need
a
motion
to
do
that.
We'll
just
do
that
great,
so
we
do
have
a
very
brief
executive
session.
We
want
to
give
you
all
an
update
on
some
legal
matters
related
to
the
FEMA
buyout
program.