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From YouTube: City of Charleston City Council Meeting 5/17/22
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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 5/17/22
B
C
C
We
ask
that
you'll
open
our
eyes
and
ears
tonight
to
hear
the
concerns
that
will
be
brought
forward.
We
ask
that
you'll
guide
us
in
our
decisions
on
city
council.
We
ask
for
your
continued
blessing
on
the
residents,
businesses
and
families
in
our
great
city,
for
it's
in
your
holy
and
precious
name.
We
pray,
amen.
A
A
Thank
you
so
we're
going
to
have
a
truncated
version
of
a
presentation
from
city
staff.
Of
course,
the
purpose
of
our
meeting
tonight
is
regarding
the
king
street
business
improvement,
district
and
opportunity
for
those
who
would
have
an
objection
or
a
support
of
the
of
the
business
improvement
district
to
be
able
to
make
comments
and
present
themselves.
But
first
we
want
to
have
a
very
brief
presentation
by
mr
summerfield,
our
planning
director,
robert.
D
D
All
right
so
very
quickly,
city
council
is
required
by
statute
to
hear
the
objections
is
provided
under
the
the
rules
and
the
laws
that
allow
for
the
municipal
improvement.
The
city
council
will
make
a
ruling
of
objections
at
a
future
meeting
tonight
we
are
just
hearing
from
the
objectors.
There's
no
action.
That's
expected
to
be
taken
this
evening.
D
All
properties
that
are
included
in
the
assessment
roles
would
anticipate
getting
bills.
This
fall
with
those
revenues
being
available
in
2023.
So
just
real,
quick
on
that
piece
of
it.
So
again
just
a
reminder.
What
a
municipal
improvement
district
is
it's
established
by
statute
to
allow
a
municipality
to
create
a
district
where
funds
can
be
generated
through
the
special
assessment.
D
Those
funds
are
to
be
used
for
programs
and
improvements
within
that
district,
so
again,
funds
that
are
brought
forward
from
in
this
case
the
bid
can
only
be
spent
in
to
provide
those
improvements
to
the
district.
This
is
a
somewhat
unique
subset
of
the
the
mid
or
municipal
improvement
district
concept
called
a
business
improvement
district.
There
are
tons
of
these
all
over
the
country
here
in
south
carolina.
There's
a
very
successful
one
in
columbia,
we're
working
on
one
here,
obviously,
and
the
city
of
myrtle
beach
is
also
working
on
one
for
their
downtown
district.
D
Let's
see
again
the
one
of
the
other
things
that's
different
about
a
bid
versus
a
standard.
Mid
mids
often
are
used
for
infrastructure
projects,
whereas
bids
are
usually
used
for
programming
and
services
that
are
done
in
that
commercial
corridor
and
often
a
bid
is
administered
on
behalf
of
the
municipality
by
a
non-profit
association
or
organization.
D
The
non-profit
organization
that's
been
established
to
do
the
the
work
of
administering
the
bid
is
the
charleston
downtown
alliance.
The
alliance
is
made
up
of
property
owners,
business
owners
as
well
as
other
interested
groups.
The
city
through
our
through
my
office
with
meg
thompson,
actually
serves
as
an
ex-officio
member
on
that
board.
She
doesn't
get
to
vote,
but
she
participates
in
those
meetings.
I
mean
you
can
see
real
quick
what
their
mission
is.
D
So
this
council
has
adopted
an
ordinance
that
established
an
improvement
plan
that
improvement
plan
identified
over
a
10-year
period.
The
amount
of
money
that's
anticipated
to
be
spent
on
these
various
elements
of
services.
It's
very
important
to
note
that
the
bid
is
providing
additive
or
supplemental
services
does
not
replace
or
reduce
the
city's
commitment
or
the
city's
expenditures
within
the
district.
D
D
A
ground
parcel
to
be
very
clear.
We
call
it
the
king
street
bid,
but
it
encompasses
properties
that
go
along
side
streets
and
what
have
you
so
everything
in
the
green
is
a
part
of
the
district
and
we'll
see
service
delivery
from
the
business
improvement
district.
So,
even
if
you
have
the
majority
of
your
frontage
off
of
king
street,
you
will
still
see
the
same
services
that
are
delivered
on
that
side
portion
of
the
street.
D
As
what
will
be
delivered
on
king
street,
so
it's
important
to
note
that
I
don't
think
we've
expressed
that
enough,
that
that
is
an
important
component
of
the
of
the
bid
again,
if
you
are
any
existing
owner
occupied
residential
unit
or
a
zero
tax
assessment,
you
are
not
being
assessed.
So
if
you're,
a
house
of
worship,
government
facility
or
if
you
live
in
your
condo
unit
or
what
have
you
you
do
not
get
the
assessment.
D
D
I
don't
know
what
that
is
one
whatever
you
can
see.
I
don't
know
what
tense
that
is
hundreds
or
whatever,
but
essentially
it's
based
on
the
assessed
assessed
property
value.
So
it's
not
your
market
rate
value.
It's
the
assessed
value
as
calculated
by
the
county.
The
calculation
is
then
done
a
very
basic
example.
So,
for
instance,
if
your
assessed
value
is
one
thousand
dollars,
then
what
you
would
pay
annually
is
11
and
30
cents
for
your
bid
fee.
D
D
It's
been
called
for
through
basically
every
plan,
that's
involved
downtown
for
the
last
40
some
years
and
so
we're
finally
heading
to
a
place
where
there's
been
a
enough
of
a
push
and
to
be
clear,
the
push
came
from
the
private
sector.
This
was
not
the
city
going
out
and
drumming
up
this
idea.
This
was
the
private
sector
who
came
to
the
city,
saying
hey
we're
ready.
D
Officially,
we
began
this
process
with
a
memo
of
understanding
with
the
cda
to
do
the
outreach,
because
it
was
very
clear
that
the
the
council
wanted
to
see
a
demonstration
of
property
owner
support
for
this
initiative
before
council
wanted
to
take
up
the
ordinance.
So
we
worked
through
all
these
various
processes.
Again,
council
has
already
adopted
the
ordinance
the
business
improvement
district
is
created.
It
exists
in
the
ordinance.
This
is
at
this
point
we're
in
the
statutory
process
to
deal
with
the
hearing
of
objections.
D
Parallel
to
that,
we
are
also
working
on
the
memo
of
understanding
with
the
cda
for
the
trying
to
move
really
fast
for
the
administration
of
the
bid
that
item.
Actually,
you
will
see
the
draft
of
that
for
net
for
discussion
purposes
only
at
next
council
meeting.
So
next
tuesday
we
have
that
draft.
We've
been
working
very
closely
with
the
cda
on
preparing
that
it's
important
to
note.
D
That
draft
is
the
result
of
what
we
heard
throughout
the
bid
ordinance
adoption
process,
so
we've
included
within
that
memo
of
understanding
requirements
for
board
membership,
that's
more
diverse
than
what
the
board
is
currently
made
up
of
transparency.
We
heard
transparency,
transparency,
transparency,
the
cda
wants
to
be
and
plans
to
be
transparent.
The
mou
spells
out
very
clear
language
on
how
that
transparency
will
work
and
be
reported
back
to
this
body
in
public
setting,
so
that
everybody
knows
how
money
is
being
spent
when
it's
being
spent
and
what
have
you.
D
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
make
sure
that
that's
very
clear.
We
heard
what
council
members
said
during
discussion.
We
heard
what
the
community
said
and
we've
integrated
that
into
the
memo
of
understanding
next
step.
So
again,
today
we're
to
hear
if
objectors
have
a
concern
or
an
issue
with
they
believe
that
the
calculation
was
in
error
or
if
they
believe
that
they've
been
included
in
the
district
by
error
again,
meaning
that
they
don't
qualify
for
inclusion
in
the
district
because
they're
four
percent
property
owner,
or
for
something
like
that.
D
The
mou
will
come
to
council
next
week
for
just
a
discussion
item
anticipating
in
june,
that
that
would
go
to
ways
and
means
and
city
council
for
action.
If
the
discussion
goes
well
next
week,
and
then
this
summer
we
will
prepare
in
working
with
the
consultant
and
working
with
bfrc.
We
will
prepare
that
assessment
role
to
be
submitted
to
charleston
county,
and
they
will
include
that
on
the
tax
bills
that
will
go
out.
D
A
E
D
So,
basically,
it's
eleven
dollars
per
every
thousand
dollars
of
assessed
value,
eleven
dollars
and
thirty
cents
or,
as
councilman
seeking
said.
It's
one
point,
one.
Three
percent
of
your
assessed
value
again:
that's
assessed
value
which
the
county
does
their
own
calculations
to
determine,
assessed
value
which
is
markedly
less
and
different
than
what
market
value
might
be
for
a
property.
F
So
it
is
the
assessed
value
but
assessed
value
multiply
by
your
assessment
rate.
So
if
you
think
about
a
piece
of
property
that
charleston
county
says
on
your
tax
bill
is
worth
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
it's
a
six
percent
property.
This
is
applied
against
six
thousand
dollars,
not
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
right.
It's
so
it's
not
just
the
assess
rate.
That's
the
assess
rate
multiplied
by
the
six
percent.
Assuming
that's
what
the
property
is
yeah,
it's
it's
far
less
than
what
charleston
county
says.
The
assessed
value
is
thank
you.
A
Any
other
questions
or
comments
from
council
before
we
proceed.
I
would
like
to
re-um
repeat
that
the
purpose
to
hear
objections
from
property
owners
and
based
on
those
requirements
are
believed
that
you
have
a
error
in
the
calculation
or
an
error
just
to
be
included
in
the
district.
We
will
take
public
comments
for
those
who
are
supportive
of
the
district
or
who
have
just
other
comments
to
make
about
the
central
business
district,
but
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
we
hear
first
from
those
who
are
here
specifically
to
object.
A
B
G
G
B
A
G
A
G
C
G
We
have
149
king
street
as
our
location
and
bob,
and
I
my
husband
and
I
own,
that
building
our
objection
is
to
the
program
not
to
the
monies.
Our
objection
is
not
to
the
allocation
of
or
the
the
determination
as
to
what
money
should
be
allocated
for
our
building,
it's
approximately
fifteen
hundred
dollars,
and
that
is
not
the
issue
that
we're
bringing
to
your
attention.
G
G
G
G
A
B
A
H
H
Hundreds
of
photos
to
back
up
everything
that
I'm
going
to
say
anybody
wants
to
see
them,
there's
graffiti
everywhere,
downtown
nine
months
on
the
side
of
my
building,
which
faces
an
open
parking
lot
five
feet
by
three
feet:
bright
orange,
not
one
single
notice
given
by
livability.
It
stayed
up
there
calhoun
street
right
now
between
meeting
and
king
near
hero
breakfast
since
june
28th
of
last
year,
almost
a
year
20
feet
long.
It's
still
there
why
the
bennett
hotel
right
on
the
corner
for
three
weeks.
It
was
about
four
feet
tall.
H
It
stayed
there
for
three
weeks.
Livability
is
not
cleaning
this
stuff
up
burns
alley
right
now
on
a
doorway,
bright
paint
everywhere,
five
months,
it's
still
there.
Why
isn't
livability
doing
their
job?
And
why
are
you
asking
me
to
pay
more
taxes
trash
every
morning,
every
day,
again,
photos
for
this
trash
cans
left
out
every
day
supposed
to
be
brought
in
or
taken
back
by
11
a.m.
Every
single
day,
they're
left
out
there
saturday.
I
have
a
video
and
a
photo
a
rat
about
this
big
walks
in
from
king
street
right
into
my
front
door.
H
Why
isn't
the
ordinance
being
enforced?
I
emailed
you,
mr
mayor
on
that
also
every
single
day
this
happens
vagrancy
up
and
down
the
street.
I
have
to
go
and
call
the
police
all
the
time
for
the
vagrancy.
Why
aren't
the
police
seeing
it
themselves?
Why
do
I
have
to
spend
time
walking
out
of
my
store
to
look
and
see?
What's
going
on
to
call
the
police
I'll
speed
myself
up
bicycle
riding
up
and
down
the
sidewalks
every
single
day,
lieutenant
byrne
head
of
team?
Nine?
Sorry,
it's
not
a
priority
of
ours!
That's
dangerous!
H
I
Yes,
sir
south
on
focus
229
king,
many
of
you
probably
know
it
as
the
old
town
restaurant
we've
been
there
for
almost
50
years.
It's
currently
a
vacant
building.
My
partner
was
my
cousin.
50
percent
didn't
want
to
keep
the
restaurant
going
after
covet
and
unfortunately
refuting
and
who
knows
how
long
that
building's
gonna
be
vacant.
Hopefully
I
can
open
it
up
the
one
one
day,
so
I
I
do
not
want
to
be
included
in
the
assessment
because
my
building
is
vacant
also
in
493
king
on
king
street.
I
It's
a
second
story
unit,
so
I
think
the
second
story
units
aren't
as
valuable
as
first
story
units.
A
lot
of
second
story
units
are
just
storage,
so
should
we
be
paying
the
same
assessment
that
the
first
storage
units
are
and
then
I
also
feel
like
this-
I
don't
mind:
government
agencies
or
side
agencies
that
aren't
part
of
government
agencies
to
be
helping
out
the
city,
but
I
don't
really
like
increasing
our
taxes.
I
I
would
rather
take
a
percentage
of
our
existing
taxes
to
get
to
this
agency
to
see
if
they
do
a
good
job
for
a
year
or
two
or
three
or
whatever.
It
is,
but
to
add
money
onto
our
taxes
to
see
if
this
works
out
the
way
they
wanted
to
work
out
where
the
funds
are
going
to
go,
I'm
not
so
sure
in
big
agreement
in
that.
So
that's
my
opinion.
J
Thank
you,
members
of
council,
as
quick
as
I
can.
I
represent
several
of
the
property
owners
who
are
going
to
be
impacted
by
this
first
point
that
I
think
needs
to
be
made,
and
I
work
with
bids
and
mids
throughout
the
country.
Bids
and
mids
have
mixed
records
throughout
the
country.
Some
work,
some
don't.
Secondly,
I
if
I
heard
the
planning
staff
correctly,
basing
this
on
assessed
value
rather
than
fair
market
value,
makes
a
lot
more
sense.
J
Third
point
that
needs
to
be
made
is
that
technology
actually
offers
a
lot
of
solutions
to
these
problems
and
I'll
give
you
one
example:
there
are
several
municipalities
around
the
country,
for
instance,
dealing
with
the
waste
problem.
What
they've
done
is
they've
installed,
sensors
in
the
garbage
cans
and
they
build
the
property
owners
and
the
tenants
who
actually
use
the
services
by
the
use
of
those
sensors,
their
other
technologies
as
well.
To
address
some
of
the
problems
that
mr
cohen
raised,
I'm
happy
to
go
into
that
more
detail.
J
A
K
How's,
the
lady,
my
name
is
tom
stockdale
I
represent
the
beach
company,
we're
objecting
that
this
bid
does
not
have
floors
and
caps
to
all
buildings
assessed.
Our
position
is
that
many
of
the
lower
valued
properties
stand
the
most
again,
while
many
of
the
larger
properties
that
this
bid
includes
already
have
the
bids
primary
goals
addressed
and
in
place.
K
F
And
so,
if
you
take
a
look
at
our
property,
specifically
the
property.
That's
located
on
the
northwest
corner
of
king
and
warren,
it
runs
the
entirety
of
the
city
block
from
king
street.
All
the
way
back
to
saint
philip
and
the
majority
of
the
properties
that
are
located
in
the
bid
have
frontage
on
king
street
and
then
end
about
halfway
through
to
the
next
city
street
and
so
for
this
property.
F
Specifically,
we
end
up
with
a
much
larger
portion
of
an
assessment,
as
it
applies
to
our
property
than
than
the
majority
of
the
properties
that
are
included
in
the
bid,
and
we
would
submit
that
our
expectation
when
we
were
supportive
of
the
bid
was
that
the
what's
that
the
bid
would
be
applied
to
to
frontage
on
king
street
as
opposed
to
the
entirety
of
the
parcel.
So
what
what
I?
F
What
we're
really
asking
for-
and
we
recognize
that
this
is
that
we're
gonna
have
to
come
back
to
council
with
this
request,
because
this
is
not
properly
before
you
guys
tonight
is-
is
to
potentially
subdivide
our
property
so
that
only
the
property
that
is
fronting
on
king
street
will
be
subject
to
the
bid,
as
opposed
to
the
entirety
of
the
parcel
we'd
submit.
That
charleston
place
is
a
good
example
of
how
this
should
be
applied.
K
I'm
doug
warner,
371
king,
I'm
the
owner
of
that
facility
and
been
working
with
both
the
cda
in
the
city
to
establish
the
bid
and
mine
is
not
in
opposition,
but
to
say
this
is
to
me
a
perfect
example
of
a
public
private
partnership.
No
one
wants
to
pay
more
fees
right.
We
can
start
there,
but
it's
also
nobody
felt
comfortable
sitting
back
and
letting
king
street
stay
where
it
is,
and
so
this
is
an
effort
from
the
public
and
private
sector
to
come
together
and
actually
enhance
that
experience
and
to
help
right.
K
The
city
get
to
the
point
where,
when
we
walk
down
king
street,
especially
the
comments
that
you
documented
and
addressed
are
real
concerns
right,
we
all
see
them.
I
know
you
all
do
too,
and
I
know
the
challenges
that
the
city
is
facing
with
you
know
limited
employees
and
resources
and
all
of
those
things
so
to
me
as
an
owner.
This
is
a
prime
example
of
what
we'd
be
willing
to
support.
So
thank
you.
A
A
G
G
G
G
The
idea
that
there
is
an
ambassador
who
would
be
employed
at
350
000
a
year
to
survey
the
street
or
walk
the
street
or
encourage
people
on
the
street.
This
is
terribly
vague
and
ambiguous
the
beautification
for
225
000
a
year.
What
does
that
entail?
Who
is
going
to
select
the
things
that
need
to
be
beautiful,
the
destination
management?
G
Why
do
we
need
that?
We
have
lots
of
people
on
the
street,
the
marketing
and
promotion.
I
don't
know
what
I
would
do
with
more
customers
and
the
overhead
of
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
That
seems
incredible
to
whom
does
that
go?
Which
goes
to
the
point
that
the
committee
that
exists
at
this
point
has
a
property
owner
in
the
form
of
one
store
and
everyone
else
who
is
on
that
committee
is
not
a
person
who
sells
on
the
street
or
has
an
interest
on
this.
G
H
Yes,
I
left
off
that
I
was
broken
into
in
november
and
at
4
30
in
the
morning
three
and
a
half
hours
very
visible.
The
glass
was
pushed
in
visible
from
the
street.
Not
one
policeman
went
by
or
not
one
policeman
noticed
8
a.m.
I
had
to
call
the
police
there
there's
no
reason
for
that.
That's
ridiculous!
There's
little
presence
on
team
nine
in
the
daytime
and
the
nighttime
and
that's
inexcusable
other
things.
H
I
had
a
hate
crime
against
me
as
many
of
y'all
probably
know,
and
your
newly
appointed
judge
suspended
the
sentence
on
the
hate
crime.
He
was
rearrested
right
after
that
for
trespassing
and
burglary.
Again
inexcusable
the
rose.
Kids.
We
haven't
talked
about
that
they're,
just
not
in
the
marketplace:
they're
up
and
down
king
street.
Also,
nothing
is
done
ahead
of
time.
Why
aren't
we
working
with
the
clergy
and
other
people
to
prevent
things
from
happening
rather
than
trying
to
do
something?
After
the
fact?
H
That's
a
big
risk
for
tourists
for
business
owners
and
the
market
and
on
king
street
something's
going
to
happen
how
about
the
homeless
in
marion
square?
I
ccu,
mr
mayor
all
the
time
for
pictures
that
I
take
in
the
morning,
not
one
time.
In
probably
two
years
have
I
seen
one
of
the
homeless
outreach
team
members
in
marion
square
in
the
morning.
I
email
them
here
are
the
people
I
email
them.
I've
got
free
food
free
bagels.
H
All
you
got
to
do
is,
let
me
know
pick
it
up
and
distribute
it
you're,
a
former
head
of
the
team,
chris
jordan.
What
did
he
reply
to
me?
Why
don't
you
go
hand
it
out?
I
provide
back
to
him
how
about
because
I
have
to
payroll
to
meet.
I've
got
to
run
a
business.
I've
got
to
pay
property
taxes,
hospitality
taxes,
sales,
taxes.
This
is
your
job,
not
my
job.
H
Again
we
have
high
vacancies
and
the
simple
fact
is
people
don't
feel
safe
downtown.
I
was
speaking
to
the
former
district
one
council
person
in
my
store
a
woman
walked
in.
She
was
buying
cookies
for
a
funeral
and
she
walked
by,
and
she
said
you
know,
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
mean
to
eavesdrop,
but
I
heard
y'all
talking
because
we
were
talking
about
these
things
and
she
says
I
don't
let
my
kids
come
downtown
not
only
at
night
but
also
in
the
daytime,
because
I
don't
think
they're
safe
there.
H
I
have
people
from
summerville
and
even
west
ashley
who
drive
to
my
mount
pleasant,
store
and
asked
them
where
you're
from
thinking
new
york
cleveland
wherever
they
say
west
ashley.
I
said
why
do
you
come
over
here?
Why
don't
you
go
downtown?
It's
not
parking.
It's
not!
The
fees
for
parking
is
not
traffic.
H
Invariably
they
say
I
don't
feel
safe,
downtown
anymore
and
that's
a
big
problem
until
you
fix
it
being
safe,
more
police
presence
clean
it
up
with
the
taxes
we
already
pay,
such
as
the
graffiti
there's,
no
excuse
that
the
graffiti
is
not
cleaned
up
by
livability
until
that
happens.
Why
are
you
asking
me
for
more
tax
money
to
beautify
the
place
you
have
enough?
Tax
money
from
us
already
make
the
place
safe,
we're
hurting.
L
Hi,
I'm
bob
prinner,
my
better
half
has
said
most
of
what
we
feel
about
this,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
people
involved
in
this
recognize
that
many
of
the
shop
owners
on
king
street
lease
their
properties
from
landlords
and
most
leases
nowadays
are
net
net
net,
so
who's
going
to
pay
this
tax,
it
doesn't
bother
us,
but
somebody
renting
a
shop
somewhere
and
their
landlord
says.
Okay,
this
is
a
new
assessment.
L
You
have
to
pay
this
just
like
you
pay
the
insurance
on
the
building,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
and
I
think
that
a
lot
of
those
people
should
be
listened
to
they're
not
involved
in.
I
don't
think
there
are
any
tenants
here
tonight,
I'm
going
to
guess,
but
I
don't
think
so.
It's
all
about
owners
of
property,
but
the
owners
of
the
property
are
not
the
ones
who
are
going
to
be
paying
for
this.
A
B
B
He
said
it
was
not
proper
or
fair
to
the
16
residential
units
near
him
and
requested
that
for
bufayne
street
residential
properties
be
removed
from
the
taxable
properties
list.
One
person
said
they
were
opposed
to
a
non-governmental
organization
without
accountability,
accountability
to
the
public
spending
taxpayer
revenue
to
purportedly
serve
the
responsibilities
of
government
for
which
taxes
are
paid,
namely
safety,
cleanliness
and
maintenance.
B
One
person
objected
to
the
king
street
bid
assessment
fee
for
his
king
street
property.
He
owned
a
condominium
unit
and
did
not
feel
the
bid
would
be
beneficial.
It
would
decide
for
all
businesses
and
property
owners
what
needed
to
be
done
and
the
price
to
pay.
He
already
paid
property
taxes
and
was
satisfied
with
services
received.
B
One
person
said
they
objected
to
the
annual
assessment
fee
of
one
thousand
seven
hundred
twenty
eight
dollars
and
ninety
cents
because
they
already
paid
enough.
He
was
also
a
second
floor
tenant
of
his
building
and
felt
that
first
floor
tenants
were
more
valuable
than
second
floor.
Tenants
were
his
building
was
vacant
currently
and
those
were
all
the
comments
we
received.
A
A
M
J
M
Questions
and
complaints
and
comments
from
all
of
y'all
and
thank
you
for
being
present.
I've
got
a
sort
of
a
shotgun,
a
series
of
questions
and
I'm
not
sure
who
wants
to
handle
this,
but
particularly
what
mr
ellison
said.
Mr
mcgreevy
said
about
the
occupancy
burden
on.
This
is
something
of
a
concern
to
me
and
I'm
not
sure
that
sort
of
matches
with
mr
the
grievous
question
about
applying
a
frontage
versus
the
full
assessment
value.
Can
someone
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
from
the
city?
M
D
D
However,
that's
being
said,
one
of
the
things
that
can
be
a
part
of
after
hearing
the
objections
tonight
going
back
and
having
some
conversations,
it
is
within
the
purview
of
the
council
to
make
some
findings
as
to
how
to
apply
some
of
the
elements
that
are
in
the
ordinance.
And
so,
if
that's
a
discussion
topic
that
we
want
to
have
about
creating
some
kind
of
limitation
on
the
depth
of
a
lot
that
the
math
gets
squirrely,
because
the
county
doesn't
doesn't
differentiate
the
value
of
a
lot
based
on.
D
D
No,
you
are
the
the
ordinance
makes
specification
that
the
assessment
is
based
on
that
assessed
value
calculation.
What
you
have
the
ability
to
do
is
make
a
finding
that
you
know
that
you're
only
going
to
do
some
kind
of
proportional
amount
and
not
the
whole,
the
whole
property,
so
the
calculation
would
be
still
based
off
assess.
But
if
you
all
made
a
finding
that
you
believe
the
king
street
bids.
D
D
M
Let
me
just
tell
the
follow-up
before
my
my
colleagues
jump
into
that,
because
I
everybody
was
493
king
street,
because
that
was
my
family's
business
for
several
years.
So
we
we
own
that
property
and
the
second
floor
is
not
the
same
as
the
first
floor
on
that
property.
So
we
can
to
this
point,
we
can
take
into
account
second
floor
third
floor.
M
We're
talking
about
total
assessed
value
versus
the.
I
guess
another
way
of
saying
this
is
the
value
of
the
building
and
the
value
that
the
property
owner
is
going
to
receive,
may
vary
from
building
the
building
and
may
vary
from
the
character
of
the
building
as
as
well
I'm
and
I'm
using
493
king,
because
I'm
intimately
familiar
with
183
king
street.
But
it
seems
that
that's
a
valid
question
as
well,
so
that
could
be
part
of
our
discussion
on
tuesday
into
calculating
the
the
tax
that
we're
receiving
from
that
property.
M
K
F
And
councilman
shade,
I
think
I
would
answer
by
saying
it's
going
to
depend
on
what
we're
looking
to
do
so,
and
we
have
an
ordinance
that
already
establishes
this
business
improvement
district.
So
there
are
actions
the
council
can
take
to
get
further
clarification
to
what
the
ordinance
already
provides
for
and
some
of
the
questions
have
been
raised
and
concerns.
M
For
for
everyone
I
mean
that
was,
it
was
the
benefit
of
the
whole
as
opposed
to
the
benefit
based
upon
you
had
5
000
square
feet
or
1
000
square
feet.
It
was
based
upon
your
your
your
footprint
on
king
street
at
the
time,
so
there's
just
some
history
with
this.
That
makes
sense
to
what
some
of
the
comments
I
heard
on
that.
So
thanks
for
those
clarifications.
A
Councilmember
shade
I
was
around
during
that
upper
king
street
assessment,
and
I
think
it
was
a
formula
that
included
a
little
bit
of
both.
It
was
like
a
portion
of
of
the
fee
was
based
on
assessment
and
then
another
portion
was
based
on
the
linear
footage.
Your
front
footage
on
the
street,
but
it
there
was
a
linear
component,
but
I
think
it
was
a
formula
based
council
member
sheila.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
D
So
no,
there
are
properties
that
already
have
partialization
that
have
segmented
out
their
their
king
street
parcel
from
maybe
back
parcels,
and
so
what
I
thought
I
heard
was
maybe
a
request
to
allow
personalization
in
the
ordinance
that
was
adopted.
Future
partialization
doesn't
negate
the
the
current
assessment,
because,
again
you
don't
want
everybody
to
take
basically
their
first
10
feet
and
everything
behind
that
they
create
a
new
parcel
so
that
that
value
no
longer
is
captured,
that
that
would
defund
the
the
process,
but
for
existing
properties.
D
C
I
do
have
two
questions:
the
gentleman
on
defame
street.
I
read
his
his
objection.
I
mean
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
property,
but
it
if
they
don't
have
access
to
king
street.
I
wonder
why
they
would
be
paying
I'm
sure,
that's
something
we
can
look
into
later
on
and
then
the
second
thing
I
I
read
about
the
traffic.
I
mean
the
king
street
patrolmen
lack
of
a
term.
C
I
don't
know
if
we
have
input
on
this,
but
I
think
that
person's
salary
should
come
out
to
private
dollars
and
not
to
assess
salary
because
we're
not
going
to
have.
I
don't
understand,
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
have
the
ability
to
hire
fire.
So
one
way
to
gauge
that
salary
and
keep
it
in
check
is
let
it
come
out.
The
private
sector's
portion
and
not
the
amount
of
you,
know,
tax
revenue
thanks.
E
Thank
you
mayor,
just
a
suggestion
for
next
meeting,
whether
it's
our
council
meeting
or
our
executive
session
or
another
public
meeting,
but
I
would
request
a
an
actual
tax
bill.
Obviously
we
can
get
rid
of
the
tms
number
and
the
address,
but
I
would
like
to
see
real
numbers
that
the
slide
that
we
have
is
a
little
more
abstract
and
there's
there's
no
properties
that
are
assessed
at
a
thousand
dollars.