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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 9/27/2022
A
A
B
B
D
Us
pray
eternally
father
as
we
come
before
you.
We
thank
you
for
your
Amazing
Grace
and
we
are
timed
today.
We
especially
ask
you
for
that
Grace
to
pray
for
those
who
were
In,
Harm's
Way
of
previous
storms
and
are
In
Harm's
Way
of
the
current
storm
bearing
down
upon
us.
Please
pray
for
those
who
need
help
right
now
for
assistance
from
those
who
can
render
them
medical
help,
and
especially
those
families
who
have
experienced
a
loss
of
a
loved
one.
D
D
D
D
We
pray
for
those
First
Responders,
the
men
and
women
in
our
military,
keep
them
and
their
family
new
Embrace
as
well.
These
prayers
we
ask
for,
in
your
name,
let
us
all
say,
amen,
amen,
I,
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation
under
God
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
B
Thank
you
all
and
I
think
most
everyone
knows,
but
in
the
most
unlikely
event
that
we
would
have
to
evacuate
the
building.
These
are
our
true
towards
out
of
the
main
hall
and
there's
one
door
over
there.
I
would
ask
you
in
that
case,
not
to
use
the
elevator
but
to
use
the
two
stairs
down
and
then
the
one
stair
out
front
in
the
unlikely
event
we
would
need
to
leave
the
building.
All
right
is
Miss
kierce
with
us.
Oh
please
come
forward.
We
have
a
this,
is
Ann
Pierce
everyone
and.
E
B
This
is
now
believed
to
include
many
of
the
firefighters
police
officer
officers
and
rescue
workers
from
Ground
Zero,
also
on
September
11th,
whereas
exposure
to
asbestos
for
as
little
as
one
month
can
result
in
mesothelioma
30
years
later.
In
fact
that
happened
to
my
own
brother-in-law,
whereas
because
of
Occupational
Navy
service
related
household
or
even
incidental
exposures
in
the
very
long
latency
of
the
disease,
tens
of
millions
of
Americans
are
now
at
risk
for
developing
mesothelioma
and
for
decades.
B
The
need
for
research
to
develop
effective
treatments
was
overlooked,
whereas
the
result
of
this
neglect
is
that
treatments
available
today
generally
have
only
a
limited
effect.
In
most
patients
die
within
12
to
15
months
of
diagnosis,
whereas
the
establishment
of
mesothelioma
awareness
day
would
raise
public
awareness
of
the
disease
and
of
the
need
to
develop
effective
treatments
for
it.
Now
there
therefore
I
John
J
tickleberg
May,
the
City
of
Charleston,
along
with
city
council,
do
hereby
Proclaim
today
as
methothelioma
awareness
day.
B
G
G
But
we
appreciate
the
awareness
because
as
much
as
asbestos
is
still
not
banned
in
the
United
States,
it's
still
throughout
a
lot
of
our
buildings
and
occupations
and
still
because
it's
a
latent
disease,
a
number
of
our
citizens
are
still
suffering
from
expect
past
exposures
to
asbestos,
but
we
still
see
it
today
in
products
such
as
baby
powder
and
talcs,
and
so
I
work
with
a
lot
of
groups
for
awareness.
This
also
allows
us
to
bring
more
awareness.
G
We
just
had
an
international
Monument
placed
in
Vancouver
Canada
for
the
whole
North
America,
and
it's
again
because
asbestos
victims
in
the
awareness
is
such
an
important
part
of
what
we
do
and
I
think
I.
Thank
the
citizens
of
Charleston
to
continue
with
that,
and
especially
for
all
the
victims
here
in
your
city
and
throughout
the
state
that
have
already
perished
mesothelia
when
the
family
is
effective.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mayor.
G
On
behalf
of
Motley
rice
also
and
was
curious,
we
just
want
to
thank
you
for
having
us
here
today.
It
is
a
an
honor,
a
sad
one,
but
an
honor
to
be
able
to
represent
people
who
have
died
of
mesothelioma
whose
lives
have
been
touched
by
those
who
have
become
ill
from
asbestosis
or
mesothelioma.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
so
much
keep
up
the
good
work
now.
I
would
like
to
invite
Dave,
Eckles
and
Ryan
Perry
with
the
river
dogs
organization
to
join
me
as
we
proudly
Proclaim
y'all,
come
on
on
up
on
the
stage
approximation
in
honor
of
the
river
dogs
in
their
recent
success,
whereas
the
City
of
Charleston
has
been
a
proud
home
to
a
minor
league
baseball
team.
B
Since
1980,
when
the
team,
known
as
the
Charleston
Royals
got
started
as
a
single,
a
affiliate
of
the
Kansas
City
Royals,
the
team
underwent
several
changes
in
affiliation
until
eventually
becoming
what
we
know
now
as
the
Charleston
River
dogs,
whereas
the
Charleston
RiverDogs
entered
their
2022
season,
energized
and
motivated
with
their
first
championship
newly
under
their
belt
and
the
Charleston
riverdog
set
a
franchise
record
with
88
wins
during
the
2022
regular
season.
More
than
any
other
team
and
minor
league
baseball
this
season,
whereas
the
Charleston
River
dogs
were
cheered
on
throughout
the
season.
B
B
The
two
titles
are
the
first
in
the
franchise's
history
and
ended
their
postseason
with
a
4-0
record
and
roughly
10
000
fans
attending
their
two
postseason
home
games,
whereas
on
behalf
of
the
City
of
Charleston
and
all
its
citizens,
we
would
like
to
congratulate
the
Charleston
RiverDogs
on
their
remarkable
achievement
and
commend
them
for
both
their
perseverance
and
their
dedication
to
the
Charleston
community
and
y'all
I.
Don't
know
if
y'all
went
to
our
free
concert
with
the
symphony,
but
that
Charlie
River
dog
he's
one
heck
of
a
symphonic
conductor.
He
did
an
incredible
job.
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
and
just
to
dispel
any
rumors.
That's
not
me
in
the
costume
of
somebody
else,
but
I
do
thank
you
for
for
this.
It's
a
truly
an
honor
and
the
accomplishments
of
the
team,
as
reflected
in
this
and
the
success
they
had.
This
season
is
truly
goes
to
the
team
and
the
coaches
they're,
the
ones
doing
all
the
work
with
the
with
the
athletes
and
the
wins
and
the
losses,
and
but
really
when
it
comes
down
to
the
community's
involvement
and
our
relationship.
H
You
know
the
at
the
end
when
you
talked
about
the
attendance
and
just
the
enthusiasm,
and
the
support
that
we're
getting
from
the
community
is,
is
tremendous
and
I've
been
with
the
team
over
20
years
in
the
relationship
with
the
city
and
the
Citadel
is,
is
just
something
to
behold
for
for
all
municipalities
and
venues
that
need
to
work
together
like
that.
So
thank
you
very
much.
J
B
Got
you
so
without
objection
from
Council
during
this
presentation
period,
I'd
like
to
go
off
the
agenda
for
one
item
and
ask
you
to
meet
our
new
Emergency
Management
director
Ben
almquist
who's
been
hard
at
work
this
week
to
give
us
just
a
brief
update
on
the
Storm
we're
expecting
later
this
week
and
I
know
a
few
of
you
have
met
Ben,
but
probably
not
all
of
you.
He
we
are
really
blessed
to
have
Ben
with
the
City
of
Charleston.
B
K
Yes,
sir,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Council
give
a
couple
of
quick
words
on
current
situation
with
hurricane
Ian,
potentially
impacts
to
the
City
of
Charleston,
and
what
we're
currently
doing
to
mitigate
against
that
hurricane
Ian
is
currently
I.
Believe
the
last
update
a
category
three
storm
with
the
potential
to
come
category
four
over
the
next
24
hours.
It
will.
It
is
then
predicted
to
rapidly
decrease
in
strength
before
making
landfall
in
the
Tampa
Bay.
K
Area
current
tracks
on
this
storm
have
changed
significantly
over
the
last
24
to
48
hours.
It
was
originally
expected
to
impact
the
town
of
hassie.
It's
obviously
moved
a
lot
since
then
we
are
currently
looking
at
some
tracks
that
would
bring
it
back
into
the
Atlantic
before
coming
up
the
Gulf
Stream
towards
Charleston
area.
There
are
some
scenarios
that
indicate
a
direct
hit
if
it
does
take
that
track.
Currently,
South
Carolina
EMD
has
more
confidence
that
it
will
stay
further
Inland
and
not
get
back
out
into
the
Atlantic.
K
But
of
course,
that's
subject
to
change
from
conditions.
The
issue
we're
having
with
this
is
that
it's
such
a
slow
moving
storm
that
it
is
more
susceptible
to
the
changing
weather
conditions,
pressure
systems
that
come
in
move
it
all
around
and
change
the
direction
potential
impacts
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
Of
course,
the
most
prevalent
impact
is
the
one
we
deal
with
on
a
regular
basis
and
that's
flooding.
We
are
looking
at
high
potential
for
a
significant
flooding
events,
especially
in
the
peninsula.
K
K
This
is
a
very
fluid
situation.
As
I
said,
it's
a
slow
moving
storm,
so
the
conditions
change
constantly,
but
we
are
getting
close
to
our
essentially
our
trigger
points
where
we
will
start
activating
the
municipal,
Emergency,
Operations
Center,
we'll
change
our
operating
condition
and
we'll
start
putting
our
subject
matter.
Experts
and
our
decision
makers
and
positions
that
they
need
to
be
in
to
serve
the
citizens
of
the
city.
B
Swing
and
and
to
let
you
all
know
if
you
hadn't
seen
the
release,
yet
we
will
offer
sand
that
for
sand
bags
for
our
citizens,
starting
tomorrow,
at
five
different
locations
throughout
the
city,
starting
at
nine
o'clock,
I
believe,
yes,
sir
eight
or
nine
eight
o'clock,
maybe
yeah
any
questions
for
Ben
council
member.
Thank.
A
K
A
Okay
and
just
one
other
thing:
Mr,
it's
going
to
rain
I
think
we're
pretty
clear
on
that
and
we've
got
some
big
high
tides
coming
and
it's
going
to
be
the
weekend
and
once
the
storm
goes
through,
it's
going
to
be
really
nice.
Please
stay
home,
don't
come
to
the
peninsula
and
look
and
see
what
happened.
Go,
look
and
see
the
because
every
time
you
drive
down
the
street,
it's
flooded
it's
another
storm
event.
So.
L
A
Stay
home
our
police
are
going
to
be
out
there,
we're
gonna
barricade
off
the
streets,
we
do
it
whenever
it
floods,
don't
come
down
and
drive
around
in
your
truck
and
take
a
look
at
it.
It's
really
problematic
and
we've
got
some
laws
against
that
and
if
you
do
it,
you're
going
to
be
subject
to
them.
So
please,
please,
please
stay
at
home,
no
wake
zone.
No!
It's!
We
are
one
big,
no
wake
zone.
Thank
you.
That's
correct,
council.
I
Member
Shea,
thank
you.
Mr
Spirit,
one
of
the
things
that
we
discussed
yesterday
at
our
Public
Works
of
services,
a
committee
meeting.
We
were
talking
about
the
sandbags
and
we
had
used
to
use
the
Piggly
Wiggly
site
as
one
of
our
locations
and
I
was
out
there
in
our
past
storms
and
when
I
mentioned
to
Mr
O'brien
yesterday,
I
want
to
mention
to
you
as
well.
I
It's
always
good
to
have
and
I
think
Tom
reassured
us
they'll,
be
a
supervisor
out
there
in
the
standby
distribution
points
just
to
help,
coordinate
and
organize
that,
because
it
does
get
a
little
chaotic,
but
then,
when
people
showing
up
and
parking
and-
and
there
are
folks
who
do
need
help
out
there
by
the
way-
and
my
experience
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
elderly
people
who
come
out
there.
So
if
there's
a
way
of
organizing
and
helping
people
who
need
physical
assistance
with
the
sandbags,
that's
really
really
important.
I
B
Any
other
questions
well
Ben.
Thank
you.
I
know
you
got
to
get
back
already,
he's
been
doing
a
terrific
job,
y'all
coordinating
particularly
with
the
county
and
state
folks
who
we
knew
already.
So
it's.
Thank
you,
sir,
for
your
report.
Okay,
next
up
is
our
public
hearings.
If
I
could
call
on
Mr
Morgan
to
come
forward,
I
think
we
got
six
items
this
evening.
M
Yes,
the
applicant
has
requested
a
deferral
of
number
one
and
I
can
give
background
on
it.
If
there's
someone
here
who
wants
to
to
speak
on
it,
but
thank
you.
Yes,
we
proceed
with
the
public
hearing
on
okay
and
so
Mr
Mayor
members
of
council,
so
item
E1
is
35
and
37
preloads
to
each
it's
a
about
a
quarter
of
an
acre.
M
It's
a
request
to
include
that
property
and
the
accommodations
overlay,
Zone
and
the
property
is
Formerly
Known,
most
widely
known
as
the
location
of
the
harbor
Club
it's
across
the
street
from
the
Condominiums
and
the
City
Art
Gallery,
it's
adjacent
to
the
Bindu
hotel.
We
have
some
other
images
here,
but
they
would
like
to
be
included
in
the
accommodations
overlay.
M
Just
in
here's,
our
comprehensive
plan
recommendation.
It's
part
of
the
neighborhood
recommendation,
the
conference
plan
and
that's
what
neighborhood
says
in
conference
plan:
here's
an
aerial
of
the
property.
Again
it's
in
a
fairly
dense
area
of
town,
it's
pretty
much
all
buildings
and
streets
and
parking
and
here's
a
view
of
it
from
the
street
and
another
one
from
the
street
across
the
street
and
adjacent
and
other
adjacentists.
Have
been
do
in
and
this
was
an
area
that
was
part
of
the
accommodations
overlay
in
2013..
M
This
was
reviewed
at
Planning
Commission
and
it
was
taken
out
in
2013
because
there
was
no
thought
that
it
needed
to
become
a
hotel
at
that
point
in
time,
and
it
was
the
harbor
Club
as
well
at
that
time
too.
This
is
just
a
little
bit
of
a
history
of
what
had
been
the
accommodations
overlays
over
time
in
that
area,
starting
with
a
much
broader
area
in
87
shrink
down
in
98
and
then
in
2013
shrink
down
even
further,
and
this
was
part
of
some
of
those
removals
in
2013.
M
B
N
Would
you
want
to
express
a
Councilman
Mitchell,
an
extra
50,
what
50
seconds
yeah
one
of
them
I
need
another
minute
I'm
going
to
notice,
basically
how
the
administration
procedure
back
in
1946,
I'm,
doing
I'm
doing
the
notice
okay
under
the
planning
and
evening
guys?
Okay,
now
on
July
29
2022
U.S
Court
of
Appeals
under
28,
USC
351,
the
judge,
Joseph
Johnson
third
just
did
engage
in
conduct
for
addition
to
the
effective
and
expeditious
administration
of
the
business
of
the
court.
N
From
the
memorandum
of
order
expressed
page
three
I
went
to
school
in
Morgan
State
University
in
Maryland,
upon
filing
of
the
special
committee
report,
judge
Niemeyer
out
of
Maryland,
which
I
went
to
Morgan
accused
himself
from
judicial
council's
review.
The
affidavit
was
prepared
in
response
to
a
threatening
communication
in
2001,
delivered
to
Joe
Dawson's
former
Office
county
attorney.
I
had
to
live
a
lot
of
service
Council
in
1999
2002
22
orders
to
September
1st
to
my
former
accounting
attorney
that
my
FPS
stats
statutes
provide
Congress,
see
if
God
public
against
abuse
by
evil-minded
persons.
N
Nowadays,
my
doj
notice
investigated
use
of
my
personal
information.
This
kind
of
speech
is
not
only
regrettable
and
dangerous.
There's
also
undoubtable
questions
of
crime.
Okay.
So
therefore,
all
my
all,
my
public
comments
from
from
1991
to
2022
need
to
be
sent
back
to
the
U.S
attorney's
office.
They
State
the
Attorney
General's
office,
Anthony,
G
Bryant,
don't
run
from
nothing
or
nobody
born
and
raising
the
point
voting
peninsula.
G
Don't
want
to
break
it,
you
won't
I'm,
the
president
of
the
French
Quarter
neighbors,
Association
and
I'm
here
in
support
of
moving
this
building
back
into
the
accommodations
overlay
Zone
the
building
has
been
vacant
and
abandoned
for
three
plus
years.
It
has
been
a
magnet
for
graffiti
garbage
and
vagrancy.
G
While
we
would
prefer
a
residential
project,
the
building
itself
doesn't
really
lend
itself
to
you
that,
and
therefore
we
stand
in
support
of
this
becoming
back
into
the
accommodations
of
really
Zone.
Excuse
me
and
it
become
a
boutique
hotel.
We
have
spent
months
with
AJ
Capital,
who
are
the
developers
of
this.
We
know
their
work
very
well
and
therefore
we
are
in
support
of
this.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Man.
G
My
name
is
Peggy
malaspina
I'm,
also
a
member
of
the
French
Quarter
neighborhood
association,
and
we
voted
as
a
board
to
support
this
project.
Moving
back
into
the
accommodation
Zone
Stephanie
has
given
you
all
good
reasons.
In
a
perfect
world,
this
may
be
a
neighborhood
park,
but
we
live
in
a
real
world
and
we
believe
that
they
will
be
AJ
capital
and
their
plans
will
be
good
neighbors.
Thank
you.
A
A
C
Mr
Mayor,
we
did
receive
one
comment:
online,
Alice
Wakefield
said
the
old
Harbor
club
building
had
been
vacant
and
an
attraction
for
vagrants
in
a
neighborhood
eyesore.
For
too
many
years,
the
creation
of
a
useful
building
by
a
respected
developer
was
the
best
offer
for
improving
the
present
situation.
The
fq
a
board
supported
changing
the
zoning
from
limited
business
to
a
hotel.
She
was
a
member
of
the
fq
A
and
supported
the
request
to
change
and
those
are
all
the
comments
we
received.
Thank.
B
You
so
the
item
was
deferred
by
the
applicant,
we'll
bring
this
back
to
council
for
a
vote.
I
will
just
comment
on
how
the
restaurant
seen
in
Charleston
has
changed.
Now
you
can't
even
make
up
your
mind
which
fine
restaurant
you
want
to
go
I
remember
when
this
was
the
colony
house,
and
it
was
one
of
the
very
few
restaurants
you
would
even
go
to,
but
anyway,
it's
an
aside
Mr
morning.
I
M
It
would
not
change
by
virtue
of
their
request.
Their
request
is
just
to
change
the
use
within
the
building
to
the
accommodations
overlay
and
I.
Don't
think
that
the
folks
who
are
requesting
the
accommodations
overlay
want
to
add
on
to
the
building
I
think
they're
just
going
to
reuse
the
current
building
right.
M
M
A
A
I
know
that
this
is
we
did
this
because
we
were
advertised
for
public
hearing.
I
do
think,
there's
probably
going
to
be
some
more
comments
to
be
made
on
this,
and
so
once
we
catch
back
on
an
agenda,
we
might
have
to
do
it
through
Council,
but
I
think
there's
some
others
who
would
like
to
count
on
them.
M
M
M
It
is
behind
another
parcel
that
was
not
long
ago,
rezone
to
the
five-story
height
district,
and
this
parcel
is
also
seeking
The
five-story
Old,
City
height
District,
the
air,
the
building
to
the
east
and
we'll
show
you
some
pictures
in
just
a
minute,
but
it
is
in
a
four-story
district.
However,
it
counts
as
five
stories
based
on
the
way
we
count
Heights
now
and
there's
also
a
parking
garage
to
this
southwest.
That
is
five
stories
as
well
and
we'll
show
you
some
other
pictures
of
those
as
well.
M
So
it's
very,
very
small
partial
at
the
rear.
Here
it
is
in
our
neighborhood
Edge
neighborhood,
as
recommended
in
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
this
includes
kind
of
a
mixture
of
things
that
would
be
on
the
edge
of
neighborhoods.
The
request
would
not
be
against
what
neighborhood
Edge
talks
about
or
the
neighborhood
District
either.
This
is
an
aerial
image
of
the
property.
It
is
a
parking
lot
at
present
and
the
larger
parcel
that
is
about
to
be
developed
is
just
to
the
north
of
it.
M
Here
is
the
criteria
that
is
used
in
the
zoning
ordinance
for
a
rezoning.
As
you
all
make
your
decision,
you
would
need
to
evaluate,
in
part
the
context
of
the
property,
the
character
of
the
immediate
area,
Street
widths
around
the
property
and
whether
the
request
of
rezoning
would
be
compatible
with
the
surrounding
properties.
So
that's
why
we
do
a
lot
of
pictures
and
things
to
show
you
all
what
is
going
on
around
it.
Here
is
the
subject
property.
M
There's
that
same
building,
that's
a
four-story
portion
of
the
building
and
then
five
stories
more
adjacent
to
this
property.
This
is
another
image
of
that
adjoining
property
and
then
across
the
street,
to
the
Southwest
is
the
parking
deck
that
MUSC
owns.
That
roughly
is
five
stories
and
then
this
is
the
new
building
that
has
been
approved
by
bar
and
the
property
to
the
north,
which
actually
because
they
got
architectural
Merit.
They
have
six
stories
in
this
building.
M
It's
five
stories
of
the
regular
height
and
then
a
sixth
story
is
a
setback
kind
of
Penthouse
area.
So
you
get
a
sense
of
what's
going
on
around
it
again.
This
is
a
view
of
it
on
President
Street
that
will
be
there
in
the
future
and
let's
see
the
Planning
Commission
did
review
this
and
recommended
approval
six
to
zero.
All.
B
M
B
M
M
Yeah,
but
this
building
this
first
building
here
is
essentially
five
stories.
The
way
we
count
stories
today
it
has
a
level
of
parking
and
then
four
floors
of
residential
structure.
So
we
call
this
a
five-star
rebuilding
it
technically
would
be
a
grandfather
building,
and
then
it
has
another
building
here,
that's
four
stores
and.
B
B
All
right
any
other
discussion
questions
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
I
would
move
to
take
three
through
six
together,
all
on
all
in
favor,
taken
three
through
six
together,
please
say:
aye
any
opposed
all
right,
let's
run
through
them
all
and
then
we'll
take
comments
with.
M
B
M
Into
the
city
on
August
16th,
it's
a
request
for
single
family
sr1
and
the
properties
here
on
the
map
in
front
of
you,
and
we
have
just
images
the
comp
plan
map
and
then
the
property
itself.
Planning
Commission
recommend
approval,
and
this
one
the
next
one
is
309
Cessna
Avenue
in
Dupont
station.
It's
18th
18107,
acre
Annex
in
the
city
on
August
16th,
and
it
is
a
request
for
sr1.
M
Also-
and
you
see
it
in
front
of
you,
there's
a
comprehensive
plan
recommendation
and
there
is
a
subject
property
and
then
we
have
2157
wapu
Drive
in
Riverland
Terrace.
It's
nearly
a
quarter
of
an
acre
and
there's
the
image
of
the
property.
It
also
is
up
for
so1
and
it's
the
river
volunteers,
neighborhood
and
Planning
Commission
did
recommend
for
this
one
as
well
and
then
finally
is
a
commercial
annexation.
This
is
a
1989
Maybank
Highway.
M
It's
a
recently
built
small
shopping
or
restaurant
area
next
to
the
poor
house
and
across
the
street
a
little
bit
further
down
the
street
from
the
Terrace
Theater,
it's
at
the
corner
of
Woodland,
Shores
and
Maybank.
This
is
the
comprehensive
plan
recommendation,
neighborhood,
Edge
and
then
the
subject
property
that
again
was
recently
built,
and
it
has
a
few
restaurants
and
bar
type
facilities
in
it,
and
Planning
Commission
recommended
six
to
zero
for
the
general
business
Zoning
for
this
property.
B
N
My
father
bought
his
house
with
three
sons:
1968
all
the
way.
I'm
Brian
see
you
ain't,
no
coward;
okay,
we
don't
do
cloud
in
our
family.
Now,
there's
a
chairman
of
the
Charleston
County
planning
and
Public
Works
Commission.
It's
under
assumption
that
and
others
believe
that
they
can
take
people's
reputations
in
the
line.
Well,
I've
made
public
comment
doing
doing
symptoms
for
the
congressional
districts.
The
Senate
I
made
public
comment.
My
whole
life
and
I
refuse
to
be
a
boy
for
any
political
party,
Republican
or
Democrat
I'm,
a
black
man.
N
First,
that's
what
I
am
first,
the
first,
if
I'm
a
black
man
in
America
and
so
I'm,
not
going
to
sit
around
here
and
suck
and
Jive
and
tap
dance
with
nobody,
no
more
be
a
real
brother.
That's
what
you
need
to
be
a
real
brother.
Okay,
nine
people
died
in
our
community
nine
seven
years
ago.
They
even
bother
nobody
how
you
think
somebody
gonna
feel
after
that
I
applaud,
Dolly
Gregory,
keep
wearing
others.
I
didn't
feel
that
way.
N
Seven
years
ago,
I
didn't
there
were
people
like
me
personally,
the
oldest
person
in
my
community
who
I
know
that
that's,
like
my
grandmother
sitting
in
her
car,
praying
that
day
that
we
didn't
get.
We
was
upset
about
Black,
Folk,
being
humiliated,
destroyed,
I'm,
sick
of
it,
seeing
our
young
Brothers
not
even
educating
this
community
anymore,
destroying
themselves
and
then
you're
on
TV,
not
educating
them
at
all
and
demanding
them
to
be
like
the
Harvard
students
they're
destroying
themselves
out
there.
That's
our
children
doing
that
to
each
other.
N
How
you
think
I
feel
when
a
kid
can't
read
in
my
neighborhood?
Well,
he
gonna
go
record
Google
Boeing
he
going
to
prison.
Nobody
going
at
and
I
ain't
gonna
lie
to
them
until
they're
going
someplace
else.
You
lied
to
them.
You
tell
them
they're
going
someplace
else,
prepare
yourself
or
your
prison
cell.
That's.
A
In
the
picture
that
they
said
the
image
of
Jesus
and
if
you
pronounce
it
the
name
of
Jesus
that
they
got
his
name,
the
Hebrew
name
is
ISA
the
son
of
Mary.
Now
you
see
that
j-e-s-u-s,
the
people
who
put
that
together
were
saying
just
us
just
us
not
nobody
else.
Chinese
Japanese,
just
us
the
corrupt
people
in
the
world
who
put
that
together
because
the
Bible
say
you
don't
have
no
image
and
likeness
of
God,
none
whatsoever.
A
Who
was
a
father
with
an
African
married
of
white
women
from
Kansas
City
and
the
baby
is
born
and
become
the
president
of
the
United
States
of
America?
You
should
know
racism
is
dead
when
you
see
Charleston,
take
an
elect
a
black
Bishop
that
came
in
here
in
this
chamber
and
spoke
on
13
in
the
13
tribes
of
Israel,
no
for
surety
that
race
isn't
is
dead
and
what
we
are
suffering
from.
Is
greed
jealousy
envy
and
ignorance.
G
Thank
you
very
much
for
having
me
I'm
Ann
Cleveland,
the
executive
director
of
the
Charleston
library
Society
on
King
Street
Dominion,
has
recently
announced
its
intent
to
sell
the
property
north
of
the
library,
society
and
Gibbs
Museum
to
the
highest
bidder.
City
council
has
an
extraordinary
opportunity
to
create
a
legacy
for
Charleston's
historic
district.
That
I
believe
will
profoundly
affect
the
life
of
lower
King
Street
and
the
Low
Oak
Country
for
the
rest
of
our
lives.
The
property
is
the
last
open
space
in
the
historic
district.
G
We
believe
the
city
should
help
purchase
the
parcel
selling
at
market
value,
the
pieces
next
to
the
Gibbs
and
the
library
Society
to
our
respective
organizations
and
dedicate
the
remaining
portion
to
a
park.
The
library
and
the
Gibbs
provide
vital
cultural
appeal
and
strength
to
people
who
are
interested
in
investing
in
a
growing
city,
except
for
the
existing
EB
white,
historical
building
and
the
historic
small
building
facing
King
Street.
The
parcel
is
either
vacant
or
comprised
of
non-historic
unused
buildings
that
will
be
torn
down.
G
Since
Dominion's
announcement
of
the
sale
we
have
been
approached
with
by
developers
who
have
envisioned
everything
from
a
glass
event,
space
to
eight
stories
of
garage
and
Condominiums
over
every
square
inch
of
that
property.
Our
efforts
to
save
this
open
space
from
one
more
hotel
or
condominium
development
is
a
once
in
a
lifetime
opportunity
time.
O
Thank
you
Mr
Mayor
and
city
council.
My
name
is
Charlie
McClendon
I'm,
the
current
board,
chair
of
the
Charleston
Parks
Conservancy,
I'd,
like
to
say
a
few
words
about
the
Conservancy,
its
partnership
with
the
city
and
its
mission
in
support
of
the
parks.
As
many
of
you
know,
it
was
talked
about
earlier
today.
The
ways
and
means
conservancies
have
a
long
and
successful
partnership
with
the
city
for
over
15
years
in
renovating,
maintaining
and
providing
programming
in
our
parks,
in
collaboration
with
the
parks
department.
O
O
A
Years
ago
my
father
had
a
stroke.
I
came
home
to
take
care
of
him.
He
was
in
intensive
care
for
a
month.
He
was
in
the
hospital
for
two
and
a
half
months
going
back
and
forth
from
my
home,
I
was
stuck
in
traffic,
I
couldn't
believe
it.
Where
did
all
this
traffic
come
from
my
local
councilman,
Ross
appell?
The
very
first
words
out
of
his
mouth
to
me
was
untrue.
I
found
out
from
the
Freedom
of
Information
Act
that
I
filed
I
saw
all
the
things
that
he
did
to
try
and
immediately
stop
me.
A
He
even
tried
to
Rally
the
neighborhood
to
send
you
sham
letters
which
you
accepted.
Those
are
those
38
letters
that
everybody
whoa
look
at
this
all
it
was
was
a
video
stamped
proposals.
It
was
as
big
a
sham
as
the
election
in
Ukraine.
They
didn't
write
their
own
words.
They
said.
Oh,
we
want
the
rose
closed.
Of
course,
if
you
listen
to
Mr
Appel,
the
roads
are
not
closed.
So
I
don't
know
if
they're
closed,
open
trees
within
the
middle
of
the
road
are
closed.
A
How
long
am
I
going
to
have
to
come
here
because
the
law
says
you
cannot
close
a
road,
a
lot
of
vote
for
city
council,
our
judge's
order
which
do
not
exist?
We
don't
have
those,
so
we
don't
even
need
to
go
further
into
the
case
law.
That's
required
to
be
met
before
you
can
close
the
road.
First
of
all,
you
have
to
have
a
vote
and
it
has
to
be
legal.
Neither
of
those
have
taken
place.
So
therefore,
the
roads
are
illegally
closed.
A
When
are
you
going
to
do
something
about
us,
sir,
and
then
we
held
the
study
Mr
Brady.
You
said
after
this
study
we
will
look
at
it
and
we'll
see
what
it
proves.
It
proves
exactly
what
I
was
saying.
It
says
that
traffic
is
overwhelming
by
my
father's
house
overwhelming
eight
times
eight
times
the
Speeders
and
it
didn't
even
include
the
school
traffic.
It
was
only
Burning
Tree
Road.
They
left
off
half
the
study,
I'm,
not
sure
how
many
times
I
have
to
come
here
before
something
happens,
you
know
some
modicum
of
decency.
A
A
Mr
Mayor
members,
Council
I'm
Jerome
Harris
I'm,
co-chair
of
the
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation.
Commission
you
have
on
your
agenda
tonight
proposals
to
make
some
amendments
to
the
ordinance
that
you
passed
last
February.
The
commission
has
been
meeting
since
June
at
our
second
meeting
of
the
members
of
the
commission,
60
of
the
new
members
of
the
commission.
A
The
members
say:
that's
that
just
doesn't
make
sense.
It's
not
practical.
So
one
of
the
portions
of
the
amendment
is
here
one
of
the
other
things
in
the
Second
Amendment
section
209
a
you're
neglected
in
passing
the
ordinance
to
establish
a
process
by
which
a
vacancy
shouldn't
occur
could
be
filled.
A
G
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
members
of
council,
Jordan,
Yarborough
and
Sacramento
Ports
Authority
coming
before
you
this
evening.
First
of
all
to
highlight
the
item
on
your
agenda
tonight
regarding
the
stormwater
check
valves
at
Union,
Pier
Terminal.
This
was
mentioned
earlier.
We
appreciate
the
collaborative
effort
to
bring
forth
the
solution
to
the
sunny
day,
flooding
on
Washington
Street
and
then,
secondly,
to
remind
you
all,
since
she
emails
with
the
announcement
for
an
event
that
we're
holding
Thursday
starting
at
11
A.M
to
7
p.m.
G
At
the
union,
peer
Passenger
Terminal,
it's
a
community
engagement
event.
We
are
seeking
input
on
the
Redevelopment
project
of
Union
Pier,
recognizing
the
storm
I
will
say
it
will
all
be
held
indoors
at
the
Passenger
Terminal
and
for
those
that
cannot
attend.
Please
provide
some
comments
on
the
website.
Unionpearsc.Com.
C
And
those
were
all
the
comments
we
received.
We
received
I
mean
speakers
that
we
received.
We
had
three
comments
submitted
online
Anthony
Bryant
commented
on
the
cares
and
arpa
funding
and
said
the
2020
redistricting
map
was
codification
for
gentrification
the
arpa
commitment
for
so-called
affordable
housing
without
land
use,
exemptions
for
the
bza
and
preservation,
Commission
of
Charleston
County
with
derail
the
county
council's
intentions.
C
He
also
referenced
the
Dominion
Energy
rate
increase,
in
which
the
company
paid
franchise
fees
to
Charleston
County
Council
and
the
City
of
Charleston,
which
received
Care
Center
arpa
funding,
Tony
Daniel,
said,
according
to
the
U.S
Department
of
Transportation
left-hand,
turns
were
among
the
most
dangerous
Maneuvers.
A
driver
can
make
every
school
day
twice
a
day.
Parents
at
Harborview
school
had
to
navigate
a
dangerous
left
turn
through
standing
traffic
on
Harbor
View
Road.
It
was
illegally
standing
by
the
side
of
the
road
and
in
the
median
he
asked.
C
C
As
the
agenda
item
or
a
discussion
to
remove
Dupont
Road
from
Sam
Rittenberg
to
Savannah
highway
and
Orleans
Road
from
Sam
Rittenberg
to
Savannah
highway
from
the
design
review
Corridor
when
the
backup
document
at
Community
Development
also
indicated
the
removal
of
savage
Road
from
drb
jurisdiction
and
would
permit
the
demolition
of
any
building
within
any
designated
Job
Center
or
industrial
district
in
the
city
subject
only
to
staff
approval.
It
came
at
a
time
when
West,
especially
citizens,
were
demanding
more
protection
from
drb
and
not
less.
C
B
Well,
thank
you
all
for
participating
this
evening,
so
glad
to
hear
your
remarks
and
comments.
So
next
up
is
our
Council
committee
reports.
First,
one
being
our
committee
on
Community
Development,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
sorry,
I,
I,
skipped
over
our
report
on
resiliency
and
sustainability.
Advisory
committee
by
Katie
McCain
is
coming
forward
and,
while
she's
stepping
up
I
don't
know
how
many
of
y'all
saw
the
display
of
electric
vehicles
out
front.
There
was
a
Ford
F-150
pick
them
up
truck
man.
That
thing
was
nice.
There
was
a
Tesla.
B
There
was
a
General
Motors,
volt
and
I'm
glad
to
report.
The
availability
is
increasing.
The
prices
are
coming
down
a
little
bit
to
where
they're
a
little
more
affordable,
particularly
if
you
take
into
account
the
maintenance
and
fuel
costs
over
time,
you
can
afford
to
pay
a
little
more
for
elect
electric
vehicle
and
actually
save
some
money.
B
So
we
we
hope,
as
this
availability
Supply
continues
to
increase
in
prices
moderate
a
little
bit
that
will
start
as
a
city
to
purchase
more
electric
vehicles.
Now
some
of
the
other
ones
I
must
share
with
you.
I
love
this
electric
street
sweeper.
We
saw
just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
on
demonstration,
but
it's
like
it's
like
over
double
the
cost,
so
we
might
need
to
wait
a
little
while
till
the
pricing
comes
down
on
some
of
those
other
models.
But
anyway,
with
that
Katie
McCain.
P
Thank
you,
mayor,
techlinburg
and
good
evening.
Members
of
City
Council
be
resiliency
and
sustainability
advisory
committee.
At
the
end
of
August,
there
were
11
of
13
members
present.
At
that
meeting.
There
were
three
main
items
on
their
agenda.
The
first
one
was
the
implementation
progress
on
the
climate
action
plan.
I
gave
a
report
and
talked
about
some
of
our
priority
projects
that
we
are
seeking
budget
funding
for
2023.
P
The
committee
actually
asked
me
to
go
into
a
lot
greater
detail
on
that
report
with
all
of
council,
so
I
will
run
through
the
other
two
agenda
items
fast
and
return
to
that
item
in
a
moment.
So
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
were
was
strategies
for
electric
vehicle
infrastructure
policy
in
new
development,
and
the
committee
talked
about
this,
so
we
reviewed
all
kinds
of
other
examples
from
other
cities,
especially
in
the
Southeast.
This
idea
is
really
just
about
how
can
new
development
they
already
have
parking
regulations
and
requirements?
P
Could
it
could
we
consider
any
requirements,
for
you
know
adding
panel
capacity
or
conduit
to
make
it
a
lot
easier
to
install
EV
charging
stations,
especially
in
multi-family?
It
is
much
more
affordable
to
install
them
at
construction
than
to
go
back
and
retrofit,
so
the
committee
discussed
that
there
was
strong
support
for
doing
something.
What
that
is
is
yet
to
be
determined
and
they
suggested
reaching
out
to
the
development
Community
for
their
feedback.
P
And
finally,
the
last
item
on
the
agenda
was
to
review
a
draft
amendment
to
address
the
extra
thick
plastic
bags
that
you
see
in
some
places.
This
amendment
really
only
affects
just
a
handful
of
really
large
corporate
businesses.
Our
local
businesses
are
doing
a
great
job
with
the
ordinance,
so
the
the
committee
supported
moving
this
forward,
making
sure
that
we
are
collaborating
with
our
other
Regional
Partners
to
make
sure
that
code
gets
passed
at
the
same
time
to
make
it
easier
for
our
businesses
to
comply,
and
then
we
had
a
public
comment
period.
P
There
were
a
couple
folks
that
spoke
so
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
climate
action
plan
implementation.
As
the
again
the
committee
asked
me
to
give
you
all
a
report
on
that,
so
I
I
often
feel
like
we
don't
celebrate
our
achievements
enough.
So
I
did
take
a
few
moments
to
talk
about
what
our
achievements
were
in
our
first
year.
So
I'll
repeat
those
I'll
start
with.
You
know
achievements
that
other
departments
achieved.
There
were
there's
many
departments
involved
in
implementing
the
climate
action
plan.
P
So
to
begin
with
last
year
we
started
a
brand
new
Bike
Share
program.
You
know
that
kudos
to
traffic
and
transportation
for
working
on
that
legal
really
help
with
that
planning
was
a
big
part
of
it
too.
So
that's
something
to
be
excited
about.
We
also
learned
the
end
of
August.
We
won
that
seven
million
dollar
raise
Grant
to
help
design
and
clean
up
the
low
lines
really
get
started
on
that
connectivity
project,
which
is
huge,
I
know
the
executive
office
helped
with
that.
P
The
planning
department
really
helped
with
that
and,
of
course,
bfrc
and
our
grant
writer
were
really
big
part
of
that.
Our
HR
department
implemented
a
permanent
teleworking
program
and
that
has
resulted
in
a
huge
reduction
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions
from
City
staff
commuting
to
work
with
any
additional
flexibility.
City
staff
could
prevent
emissions
even
more
and
reduce
their
commute
times
and
save
money.
P
Our
planning
department
and
our
Board
of
Architectural
Review
passed
a
policy
statement
on
solar,
so
that
means
anyone
designing
with
for
renewable
energy,
now
has
some
guidance
on
what
the
bar
is
looking
for,
and
recently
our
cultural
Affairs
division
had
a
huge
win
at
our
farmers
markets,
where
we
were
able
to
bring
back
volunteers
to
help
with
Food
donation
for
those
items
that
could
no
longer
be
sold,
so
some
wins
from
other
departments.
We
also
had
some
wins
within
our
sustainability
division.
So,
as
you
know,
we
passed
the
climate
action
plan
in
May
2021.
P
We
then
immediately
implemented
a
climate
ambassador
program
where
we
trained
and
empowered
about
20
local
leaders
to
go
out
in
the
community
to
talk
about
our
climate
action
plan
to
share
what
the
city
is
doing
and,
more
importantly,
to
help
the
community
understand
what
they
can
do
to
help
be
part
of
the
solution.
So
I'm
I'm
pleased
to
say
you
know,
we've
had
over
40
presentations
given
in
the
community
over
a
thousand
community
members
have
been
reached
in
that
process
and
that's
all
through
the
power
of
volunteers.
So
that's
pretty
exciting.
P
We
also
hosted
an
electric
long
hair
expo
in
May,
where
businesses
and
residents
got
to
experience
electric
lawn
care
equipment
like
lawn
mowers
and
leaf
blowers
and
trimmers
all
firsthand.
They
got
to
test
them
out
and
demo,
and
we
passed
this.
If
you
remember
the
leaf
blower
resolution
last
fall
where
we
committed
to
transitioning
all
of
our
city
leaf
blowers,
which
we
have
about
90
to
electric
or
other
alternative
options
by
next
summer.
P
P
We
started
a
new
mattress
recycling
program
last
year
and
had
some
great
impacts
from
that.
The
community
really
loved
it
and
it's
a
great
way
to
reduce
our
garbage
costs
and
our
intensity
For
Crews
picking
up
trash,
and
we
also
managed
to
Charleston
rainproof
program
and
we
piloted
a
mini
grant
program
back
in
2020.
We
repeated
that
again.
P
This
fall
we're
in
the
middle
of
it
right
now,
where
we're
basically
providing
funding
to
help
residents,
businesses
and
organizations
cover
about
half
the
cost
of
the
expenses
to
install
their
own
rain
Garden
on
their
private
property.
This
was
an
initiative
recommended
out
of
the
Dutch
dialogues
process
to
help
collect
water
on
both
public
and
private
property.
P
So,
since
the
climate
action
plan
is
by
your
strategic
plan,
there
was
actually
a
recommendation,
a
great
one,
from
our
CFO
Amy
Wharton,
who
suggested
you
know
Katie.
We
really
need
a
budget
implementation
plan
to
go
with
it,
so
we
so
we
know
we
are
on
track
to
implement
all
these
items
within
the
five-year
period
so
took
that
to
heart
we
created
a
budget
plan
and
are
working
across
different
departments.
To
make
that
happen.
P
I
did
want
to
briefly
share
the
priority
projects
for
next
year
that
do
need
some
budget
consideration
and
we're
part
of
the
requests.
So
from
the
sustainability
office
we
started
a
brand
new
composting
program
in
January.
As
you
know,
it's
been
really
successful.
We've
figured
out
all
the
Kinks.
We've
now
invited
other
Regional
Partners
to
join.
We
are
actually
expanding
this
weekend.
Folly
Beach
in
Charleston
County
added
their
own
drop
sites.
So
this
budget
request
is
to
continue
the
three
sites.
P
We
have
add
three
additional
sites,
so
we
can
actually
make
it
a
full
service
program
and
serve
everyone
in
the
city.
So,
for
example,
we
don't
have
a
drop
site
on
Daniel
Island
right
now
we
want
a
grant
that
will
cover
all
the
new
signage
and
marketing
costs.
This
budget
request
is
just
for
the
hauling
because
grants
usually
don't
cover
ongoing
expenses.
P
P
Another
request
was
for
our
Charleston
brainproof
mini
grant
program.
We
did
five
thousand
dollars
this
year,
we're
hoping
to
double
that
to
ten
thousand,
that
ten
thousand
number
is
estimated
to
divert
one
million
gallons
of
storm
water
from
our
Central
drainage
system,
so
small
amount
of
funding
having
really
big
impact
there
and
then.
Finally,
for
our
division.
P
Eight
there
was
a
Personnel
request
for
a
communication
and
Community
engagement
manager
to
really
get
out
in
the
community
and
help
encourage
and
Inspire
everyone
to
be
part
of
this
solution,
because
we
know
city
government
can't
do
this
alone,
so
I
also
wanted
to
briefly
touch
I
met
with
other
departments
who
also
have
roles
in
the
in
the
climate
action
plan
to
talk
about
what
their
priorities
were
for
2023
and
what
they
would
be
asking
for
in
the
budget.
So
public
service
is
asking
for
that.
P
Mattress
recycling
program:
it's
it's
only
a
ten
thousand
dollar
request
that
would
get
500
mattresses
out
of
our
trash
trucks,
which
is
which
is
really
helpful.
They
also
I
know
they
received
some
funding
for
the
garbage.
Can
audit
I
believe
they
are
requesting
the
final
amount
of
funding
for
that
audit?
That
audit's
really
important,
because
it
helps
us
create
data?
So
we
understand
who's
using
all
the
garbage
spins
and
it
helps
us
to
reevaluate
our
processes.
P
P
Our
parks
department
has,
if
a
few
priorities
that
are
covered
under
the
climate
action
plan.
These
Street
treat
inventory
I
I
thought
I
heard
that
this
was
funded
through
arpa
funding
this
summer
and
I
recently
found
out.
There
was
a
little
confusion
on
what
was
funded
and
it
was
something
else
related
to
G,
so
this
is
actually
I,
don't
believe,
is
funded
yet,
but
could
potentially
be
funded
in
arpa
or
considered
in
the
city
budget.
The
plug
for
the
street
tree
inventory
is
you.
P
You
can't
manage
where
you
can't
measure
right
so
having
this
data,
knowing
where
the
trees
are
knowing
knowing
their
species,
knowing
their
age
helps
us
plan
for
how
we
take
care
of
that
canopy,
because
we
have
to
take
care
of
what
we
have
that's
existing
before.
We
can
even
think
about
planting
a
bunch
of
new
trees,
which
is
really
important
too.
P
So
the
parks
department
also
manages
our
Capital
Improvement
plan
and
when
they
are
looking
to
make
buildings
our
city
buildings
more
sustainable
and
resilient.
Sometimes
that
means
going
above
code
code,
so
looking
at
how
we
can
better
fund
that
Capital
Improvement
plan
to
make
our
city
buildings
more
sustainable
and
resilient,
also
operational
funding
and
capacity
to
better
maintain
our
existing
facilities.
P
So
we
have,
you
know:
High
performing
HVAC
systems,
but
if
they
are
not
maintained
regularly
and
they
are
not
functioning
properly,
then
then
we're
losing
out
right
and
it's
really
important
to
have
this
maintenance
in
place
and
and
Set
in
order
to
plan
for
renewable
energy.
So
that's
that's
what
we're
waiting
on
and
then,
let's
see
our
our
bfrc
department.
So
we
are
working
on
expanding
electric
vehicle
charging
infrastructure
in
the
especially
our
city
parking
garages.
P
So
we
requested
that
in
the
budget
and
a
giant
plug
for
a
second
grants
manager
position,
so
we
can
take
advantage
of
all
this
great
Federal
funding
coming
down
the
pipeline,
so
the
resilience
and
sustainability
advisory
committee
voted
unanimously
to
support
all
of
these
budget
requests.
As
you
heard,
many
of
them
are
very
minor,
but
they
have
really
big
impacts
and
just
keep
in
mind
that
the
climate
action
plan
that
everything
in
there
has
multiple
co-benefits
with
it.
P
So
we're
talking
about
saving
money,
we're
talking
about
reducing
flooding,
we're
talking
about
protecting
air
quality,
and
these
are
things
we
can
all
get
behind.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
or
are
interested
in
being
involved
or
learning
any
more
data
about
that
I'm
happy
to
share
that
at
a
later
time,.
B
B
I'm
sure
there'll
be
a
report
on
it.
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
questions.
Oh
Katie,
thank
you
for
your
fine
work.
It
seemed
to
me
for
years
we
were
dealing
with
the
impacts
of
climate
change,
but
not
really
focused
on
doing
something
about
it.
Ourselves.
We
were
the
first
city
in
South
Carolina
by
the
way
to
pass
a
climate
action
plan
and
it's
good
to
see
that
we're
actually
following
through
on
it.
So
thank
you
for
your
fine
work.
Thank
you,
yeah
all
right
now,
we'll
get
to
our
Council
committee
report.
L
L
L
Okay,
all
right,
so
that
was
explained
by
our
corporate
Council
and
that
was
approved.
I
was
going
to
make
sure
we
got
it
right.
Then
we
had
a
discussion.
Then
we
had
a
discussion
of
the
City
of
Charleston
called
section
21-52
and
that
Kenny
Granada
of
the
billing
offices.
He
explained
the
role
his
role
as
a
public
safety
officer,
and
so
we
just
got
information
from
him
during
that
time.
So
no
action
was
taken
on
that
particular
law.
L
You
turn
over
and
we
have
discussion
to
remove
new
Point
Road
from
cyberton
Bridge
Boulevard
onto
stand
Highway,
and
that
was
referred
to
legal
and
it
was
removed
from
from
our
agenda.
So
it
was
so
the
our
attorneys
will
get
back
with
us
on
that
once
they
go
through
with
the
file.
Exactly
was
the
legal
ramification
on
that,
and
then
we
went
to
Executive
session
pertaining
to
Mr
BC.
L
B
D
D
When
homes
wallet
came
in
homes
and
particularly
threatened
homes,
each
person
is
putting
together
their
list
and
I
think
that's
a
continuing
effort.
So
just
a
reminder
to
you
all
those
on
the
committee
are
doing
it.
So
those
other
council
members
who
are
not
on
the
committee,
please
do
it
and
one
thing
that
we
didn't
discuss
want
to
bring
up
was
councilmember
Pell
after
you
remember
last
week
said
that
we
need
to
take
a
Navy
SEAL
approach
to
it.
Basically
a
an
increased
Manpower
approach.
D
As
a
result
of
hearing
that
councilman
Gregory
said
this
suggested
something
called
an
indefinite
delivery
contract.
Councilman
gray.
Can
you
speak
to
that
and
then
Mr
Fountain?
Could
you
address
your
response
to
councilman
mcgregory
actually
came
in
the
result
of
something
councilmember
Appel
said
last
week,
I
mean
two
weeks
ago.
Thank
you.
Yeah
I
did.
Q
Q
Q
B
R
Clarity,
the
the
store
bar
Department
does
in
fact
have
existing
indefinite
delivery
contracts
that
we
had
implemented
a
couple
of
years
ago
with
some
of
the
second.
Thank
you
with
some
of
the
Staffing
shortages
that
we
were
having.
We
also
use
them
occasionally
for
some
technical
resources
that
are
beyond
what
we
generally
staff
at
a
city
level.
Primarily
our
work
is
Friday
Caesar
and
pipe
cleaning,
pipe
inspection,
work
and
then
anything
related
to
The,
Brick,
arches
for
repair
or
cleaning.
We
have
used
those
with
great
success.
R
We
actually
have
an
expiration
of
the
existing
first
round
of
idc's.
We
did
coming
up
this
year,
which
will
be
reissuing
a
qualifications
package
for
those
we've
been
adding
into
that
qualifications
package.
Some
additional
work
for
basically
like
small
scale,
construction,
repair,
work,
replacement
boxes,
damage,
pipes,
which
we
generally
do
now,
either
through
an
emergency
repair
or
through
a
advertised
bid.
If
we
have
time
before,
it's
obviously
a
safety
issue
in
terms
of
time,
so
they
are
great
they're,
a
very
valuable
resource.
R
It's
not
it's,
not
a
new
employer,
hiring
it's
someone
who's,
basically
doing
more
than
that
one
person
could
do
by
themselves.
So
we
are
a
little
bit
limited
to
the
project
manager
position
we
talked
about
that
was
vacant.
Is
the
small
projects
project
manager?
So
that's
the
one
that
generally
manages
the
IDC
work
in
addition
to
the
large-scale
capital
projects
that
the
other
project
managers
are
working
through.
R
Q
Q
Just
saying
we
really
need
to
get
these
small
projects
done
and
not
hold
them
hostage,
because
we
don't
have
someone
to
oversee
or
manage
it.
For
me,
that's
not
acceptable.
I
think
we
need
to
find
someone
to
take
care
of
something
that's
plaguing
our
residents
and
it's
been
doing
it
for
years.
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
to
fix
it.
Q
I
I
I
These
emails
will
be
getting
from
folks
who
don't
want
us
out
there
or
don't
want
us,
which
is
somewhat
shocking
to
me
about
about
doing
that.
So
I
hear
everybody
it's
it
is
we've
gotten
to
be
aggressive,
but
we
also
have
got
to
be
realistic.
Balancing
you,
you've
got
to
have
bodies
out
there
doing
this,
and
you
gotta
have
equipment
doing
this
as
well,
and
but
I
mentioned
yesterday
in
our
Public
Service
Public
Works
committee
meeting.
I
Getting
these
backyard
dishes
open
is
another
issue
that
we've
been
we've
been
wrestling
with,
and
it's
not
a
simple
solution,
because
we
have
to
hire
a
surveyor
to
go
out
because
these
lines
have
been
so
abandoned.
We've
got
to
reestablish
those
lines
being
out
there,
so
it
is
frustrating
and
people
are
tired
of
hearing
us
come
up
with
what
we
they
presume
as
being
excuses.
A
I
When
you
start
thinking
about
paying
a
city
employee,
even
a
contractor,
a
higher
rate
rate
than
other
city
employees
and
has
a
ripple
effect
on
the
other
employees,
we
have
to
be
cognizant
about
it
as
well.
So
I,
just
I
just
mentioned
that
councilmember
Gregory
you've
got
some
really
fine
points
and
I'm
very
supportive
of
what
you've
just
said,
but
and
we've
got
to
figure
out
really
the
source
of
the
issue,
which
is
bodies
out
there
awesome
bodies
out
there.
Thank.
E
You
mayor
Mr
Fountain,
is
in
Manhattan.
You
and
I
had
a
good
conversation
last
week
and
talked
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
Nuance
of
this.
It's
not
you
know
a
direct
linear.
You
do
this
and
you're
going
to
get
this,
but
my
question
to
you
is
is
is:
is
this
a
compensation
issue
in
terms
of
you
can't
recruit
folks
because
we're
not
offering
the
correct
pay
competitive.
E
E
B
B
E
B
Well,
a
month
ago,
we
we
did
adjust
our
salaries
already,
that's
the
first
time
in
I.
Don't
know
when
that
the
city
actually
made
some
salary
adjustments,
mid-year,
so
I
at
this
point,
I
think
our
next
salary
adjustments
reasonably
are
going
to
be
this
coming
January.
When
we
put
in
place
a
new
budget,
I
mean
I.
I
know
that
Matt's
been
working
with
HR.
To
do
recruitment
that
you
know
the
labor
market
I
think
is,
is
getting
a
little
bit
better.
B
You
heard
Matt
fountain
at
the
report
yesterday
that
he's
100
caught
up
on
trash
and
garbage
pickup
two
weeks
in
a
row.
Part
of
it
was
some
employees
who
came
back,
but
also
part
of
it
was
we
aren't
starting
to
hire
some
new
employees,
so
I
invite
all
of
you
in
your
own
personal
networks,
to
try
to
re
help,
help
us
recruit
employees
to
to
the
City
of
Charleston,
and
we
have
over
200
positions
available,
not
just
in
stormwater
but
in
other
positions
as
well.
I
think
we
need
to
focus
on
recruitment.
B
We
can
do
subcontracting,
which
is
really
what
started
the
conversation,
the
question,
and
we
do
a
lot
of
that
now.
In
fact,
it
was
subcontracting
with
Trident
and
capital
waste
that
helped
us
get
caught
up
over
the
last
few
weeks,
and-
and
so
yes,
we
can
do-
we
can
do
more
of
that
and
I
see
Miss
Wharton
coming
forward,
but
before
I
address
her,
let
me
call
on
councilmember
Parker
and
we'll
come
back
to
Amy
councilmember.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
and
I
want
I
thought
that
was
a
motion.
I
wanted
to
Second
it
councilmember
Gregory
I
mean
this
is
certainly
I,
feel
it's
a
council
issue
as
well.
I
I
know
Tracy's,
not
here
so
there's
no
data
but
I
know
that
in
an
HR
meeting
we
did
sort
of
a
budget
analysis.
How
much
do
we
need
to
bring
us
into
the
top
tier
of
paying
our
employees
right?
Do
we
have
any
data
on
what
we
need
to
complete
these
maintenance
projects?
I
mean.
Has
anything
been
done
in
to
that
effect?
R
We
did
when
we
first
ran
the
small
projects
program
and
shifted
to
a
proactive
maintenance
cycle
where
we
ran
through
the
front
yard,
ditch
claim
that
has
been
shaded
referenced
and
the
internal
work
for
Pipe
Cleaning
in
combination
with
the
IDC
contract
for
Pipe
Cleaning.
It's
been
a
little
while,
since
I've
I've
run
the
numbers
I
believe
the
cost
of
cleaning
every
pipe
in
the
city
was
just
over
30
million
dollars
on
contracts
back
in
2019
team,
which
would
be
about
double
that
now
and
then
ditch
cleaning.
R
R
F
I
mean
that
certainly
you
know
we
received
data
to
the
in
this
disregard
all
the
time,
so
I
certainly
think
I
mean,
and
this
is
where
I
need
to
ask.
Council
I
mean
again
I,
don't
know
if
this
this
can't
just
be
an
HR
issue,
I
mean
why
are
we
not
allocating
money
to
contract
companies?
I
mean
you
you're
saying
you
already
have
you
know
what
did
you
say,
IDC,
there's
already
a
company
that
you
contract
out
to
do
this.
So
where
do
we
find
that
money?
How
do
we
get
it
into
this
these
projects?
F
What
what
do
we
need
to
do?
I
mean
it
can
do
you
need
to
bring
us
more
data?
Is
there
a
number
I
mean
we're
saying
this
can't
be
we're
not
going
to
fix
this
with
hiring
and
a
pay
increase
of
two
dollars
right
I
mean
we're
not
going
to
solve
this
problem
with
I
I
can't
reach.
You
know
my
there's
I.
Don't
there's
no
Market
there
for
that,
but
I
think
this
can.
Can
we
sub
contract
this
out
that
we
I
think
we
really
need
to
start
talking
about
that.
R
So
just
one
one
clarifying
point:
the
idc's
would
require
Council
action
that
they're
currently
limited
to
500
000
per
year
by
the
council,
I
think
for
procurement
policy.
So
obviously,
if
you
were
to
try
to
contract
out
millions
of
dollars,
you'd
have
to
make
a
significant
Amendment
to
the
procurement
methodology
for
that
otherwise,
we'd
have
to
go
to
the
traditional
lowest
bidder,
contract
with
scope,
work
and
then
work
off
of
a
line.
Item
costs.
H
One
other
thing,
I'd
like
to
add
I
guess,
is
if,
if
we
hired
somebody
tomorrow,
a
project
manager
to
run
one
of
these
ID
IQ
contracts,
it's
not
like,
we
could
hire
them
tomorrow
and
put
them
out
managing
these
projects.
It
takes
a
while
to
train
somebody
to
do
this
kind
of
work.
So
I
think
we
need
to
temper
our
expectations.
A
little
bit.
I
would
say
what
that's
a
three
to
six
month.
Training
period
is
with
somebody
out
there.
It.
H
B
F
B
F
O
H
B
J
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
and
thank
you
chairman,
Waring
and
council
member
Gregory
for
bringing
this
issue
forward
and
it's
a
very
important
one
and
we've
talked
a
lot
about
it
over
the
last
couple
years.
One
of
the
first
things
I
did
after
getting
elected
to
city
council,
was
participate
in
one
of
Senator
Sandy
sends
you
know.
J
Army
Corps
of
Engineers,
and
there
were
probably
a
handful
of
other
agencies
and
departments
that
I'm
forgetting
right
now,
and
it
dawned
on
me
at
that
point
in
time
that
this
is
a
lot
more
complicated
than
I
had
ever
thought
you.
You
would
think
that
cleaning
an
outfall,
getting
mud
out
of
a
pipe
would
be
as
simple
as
sending
a
guy
with
a
shovel
and
a
crew
into
that
area.
To
do
it,
and
it's
not
the
case,
we
have.
J
There
are
a
few
countries
in
the
world
that
would
tolerate
this
sort
of
red
tape
and
bureaucracy
over
a
simple
matter,
and
it's
not
our
fault.
This
is
something
that
runs
to
the
fundamental
core
of
the
way
we've
decided
to
set
up
government
in
this
country
in
this
state,
and
it
is
making
simple
things
unbelievably
complicated.
Almost
two
years
later
from
that
time,
that
I
was
in
the
Martian,
Senator
sen
was
making
fun
of
the
shoes
I
was
wearing.
J
This
needs
to
be
much
easier
and
I
think
you
know
I
wasn't
on
Council
when
you
all
went
to
Amsterdam
and
talked
to
the
Dutch,
but
I
think
don't
they
have
flooding
authorities
and
water
councils
and
things
of
that
yeah
water
boards,
no
yeah!
Well
as
long
as
it's
not
the
water
board,
they're
doing
in
Guantanamo.
J
J
You
know
about
six
months
ago,
where
we're
beginning
to
start
modifying
some
of
these
permitting
processes
to
make
this
much
more
efficient.
But
you
know
it
it's
it's
a
daunting
prospect
that
we
Face.
We
need
to
be
doing
everything
we
can.
We
need
to
get
more
folks
working
for
us.
We
need
to
do
that.
J
I
mean
the
kind
of
numbers
we
just
heard:
throw
around
Matt
is
an
extraordinarily
extraordinarily
bright
guy,
if
he's
having
to
do
math
in
his
head,
and
he
can't
immediately
get
to
the
number
it's
a
big
number
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
just
assume
that
so
I
mean
we
yeah.
We've
got
a
you
know.
Sometimes
I
feel
like
we're
not
even
sometimes
I
feel
like
here's
the
Paradigm
work.
D
Tall
camera.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
everything
that
people
said,
but
I
got
to
be
frank,
I
agree
with
councilman
Gregory.
The
answer
is
not
acceptable.
I'll
tell
you
why,
on
that
piece
with
going
into
Marshall
I,
believe
you
100,
and
what
we've
been
doing
is
those
frustrating
answers.
We've
been
throwing
up
our
hands
as
well.
If
it
were,
if
that
were
the
case,
I
wouldn't
be
sitting
here
tonight.
D
Councilman,
Gregory
and
Mitchell
certainly
wouldn't
be
here.
You
wouldn't
be
here,
Peter,
all
you,
or
there
was
a
time
when
a
lady
obviously
couldn't
even
vote.
Okay,
those
things
were
taking
the
court.
Okay.
When
we
can't
clean
the
outfalls
that
were
originally
put
there
at
a
certain
diameter,
that's
been
silted
in
and
we
have
federal
state
we'll
see
CRM
telling
us
that
we
can't
do
it.
We
need
to
take
that
to
court.
D
D
D
It
was
a
bureaucrat
that's
been
told
to
give
us
the
answer
now
when
those
pipes
were
originally
put
there
I
don't
know
what
the
diameter
was,
but
Mr
fountain
in
particular
the
pipes
that
go
underneath
the
greenway
eventually
to
out
to
the
stoner.
Do
we
know
the
dimensions
of
that
pipe?
Do
you
know
the
dimensions
to
it?.
D
R
C
R
D
D
D
G
So,
in
a
contract
situation
we
were
just
we
could
use
some
of
those
salary
savings
for
a
contract
which
we
have
done.
We've
done
that
a
couple
of
times
this
year,
I
think
and
how
we
did
our
15
minimum
we've
using
salary
savings
to
do
that,
because
we
have
so
much
of
it
above
what
we
budgeted
right
right.
D
And
so
right
now
our
strategy
is
right.
Now,
did
everybody
hate,
Miss,
Morton?
Okay,
our
strategy
is
right.
Now,
as
we've
done
in
the
past,
is
those
monies
would
stay
there
at
the
end
of
the
year?
Come
December,
31
unfulfilled.
Then
it
goes
back
into
the
general
fund
and
we
kind
of
repeat
repeated
the
process.
D
Next
year
comes
along.
We
don't
have
a
higher
rate
of
pick.
We
don't
have
a
higher
rate
of
pay
again,
those
jobs
don't
get
filled,
the
production
isn't
produced
in
the
neighborhoods
and
we're
in
the
same
situation.
What
kind
of
flexibility
is
needed
for
our
department
head,
like
Mr
Fountain,
who
has
the
intellect
and
the
know-how
to
be
able
to
take
those
dollars?
That's
right
now,
sitting
in
unfilled
jobs
to
allocate
it
to
increase
the
pay
contract
or
otherwise
to
get
it
done,
get
the
job
done.
D
Q
Q
What
will
it
take
in
18?
Is
it
19?
Is
it
twenty
dollars
an
hour
in
order
to
be
able
to
track
the
con
connect?
This?
This
goes
to
you
to
to
your
question
to
track
what
we
need
to
get
the
job
done.
We
15
yeah
they'll
trickle
in,
but
15
is
not
competitive
nowhere
these
days.
So
why
are
we
playing
with
ourselves
here
and
I?
Q
Q
I
know
how
to
to
get
where
I
think
it
needs
to
be,
and
all
this
other
stuff
about
why
we
can't-
and
it's
going
to
take
six
months
since
so
what
at
least
let's
get
started.
At
least
a
month
would
be
gone,
but
right
now
we're
sitting
being
totally
justifiably
criticized
for
not
being
effective,
and
this
isn't
something
that
just
happened
today
or
yesterday.
Q
This
has
been
going
on
since
I've
been
on
Council
and
I've,
been
on
Council
for
14
years
and
I
just
think
it's
time
for
us,
okay
to
get
this
together.
If
we're
talking
small
projects-
okay,
one,
let's
not
talk
small
projects
anymore.
When
we
talk
about
ditch
digging,
ditching,
ditch
cleaning
when
you're
talking
about
how
many
miles
you
should
have
a
million.
R
Q
And
the
point
I'm
making
is
that:
why
can't
we
make
that
a
big
project
you
can
instead
of
small
projects
and
only
allocating
a
million
a
million
here?
Okay,
why
don't
we
make
bring
it
all
together,
make
it
a
big
project,
it's
cleaning
across
the
board
and
and
find
out
totally
what
it
would
take
and,
let's
move
forward
with
it
I
just
think
that
we're
complicating
a
complicating
a
little
a
little
too
much,
and
that
managers
just
need
to
tell
this
body.
Q
How
much
will
it
take
to
fill
your
vacancies?
So
we
can
get
these
jobs
done
and
I
know
you're
familiar
with
it
indefinite
quantity
and
definite
delivery
caught
contracts.
I
know
you
are
when
I
sent
the
note
I
knew
you
were,
but
it
is
a
means.
Okay,
that
you
yourself
have
said
has
been
very
positive
in
getting
the
job
done.
Let's
make
it
a
big
project.
Folks,
I,
don't
care
what
we
call
it,
but
we've
got
to
keep
the
water
from
coming
into
these
elderly
folks
homes,
and
it's
been
happening
for
years.
R
Q
R
So
this
gets
back
a
little
bit.
Greg
was
talking
about
earlier
that
the
18
an
hour
is
probably,
is
probably
pretty
close
to
what
we
would
need
for
hand
clean
dish,
screws
that
would
not
pay
for
an
equipment
operator
who
would
clean
roadside
ditches,
nor
the
engineer
who
would
do
the
management
of
those
projects?
So
it's
it
is
not
that
there's
a
minimum
that
fully
staffs
us.
There
is
an
adjustment
depending
on
what
the
skill
level
and
the
market
is
we
track.
Can
we
track
vacancy
rate
retention
rate
attraction
rate?
R
Q
R
Q
R
Q
F
Thank
you,
amen,
I'm,
sorry,
I
could
talk
about
this
all
night.
I
mean
this.
Is
why
I'm
here?
This
is
what
I
want
to
be
talking
about.
I've
sat
in
a
room
with
these
multiple
municipalities,
I
mean.
Why
are
we
not
doing
that
more?
That
I
think
is
my
issue
with
Mr
Mayor
I,
don't
know
if
you're
having
these
same
conversations,
I
was
in
a
room
with
D.O.T
house,
rep
County,
you
know
how
do
we
do
this
council
member
Greg
I'm,
not
an
engineer,
but
we
have
smart
people
working
for
this
city.
F
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
fix
it?
We're
here
to
help
you
I'm
with
you
council,
member
of
bell?
We
it's
not
as
easy
as
Xyz.
We
know
that,
especially
on
James
Island.
Not
only
do
we
deal
with
county
and
say
we
have
other
just
local
jurisdictions,
but
we
have
to
have.
We
have
mous
with
par
the
parks.
Conservancy
I
mean
this
is
great
right,
I
mean
what
are
we?
F
What
are
we
waiting
for
to
figure
out
with
the
county
and
the
state
if
it's
something
we
need
to
do
up
in
Columbia
great,
let's
meet
with
them,
I
mean
what
do
we
need
to
do?
We
have
a
situation
on
James
Island.
We
need
an
Army
Corps,
permit
it's
going
to
take
months
just
to
get
that
permit,
because
that
we're
short
on
staff
or
we're
bundling
all
that
I
mean
this
is
just
I.
F
I
said
it
at
the
last
meeting
and
that's
what
I
could
talk
about
this
all
night,
because
this
is
what
we're
here
to
do.
I'm
new
I'm,
energetic.
Let's
who
do
we
need
to
talk
to
in
the
county
in
the
state
I
mean
if
we
have,
if
I
can
get
a
ditch
cleared.
I
think
you
mentioned
this
last
yesterday
at
the
meeting.
If
I
can
get
a
ditch
cleared
and
I
need
the
county
to
repair
or
clear
an
outfall
I
can
work
on
getting
that
done.
F
You
know
the
county
is
very
receptive
to
what
what
do
we
need
them
to
do,
but
I
need
to
know
what
to
tell
them
to
do
so.
I,
don't
know
Mr
Mayor.
If
this
is
something
that
we
can
create
a
big
project,
can
we
make
it
something
that
we
are
putting
at
the
Forefront
of
this
city
that
we're
talking
about
at
every
single
meeting
until
we
figure
it
out,
I
mean
this?
Is
the
storms
coming
I'll
be
stuck
in
my
neighborhood
this
weekend,
depending
on
how
this
plays
out
I'll
be
stuck?
I
A
F
Talk
about
that
for
months,
but
I
think
what
I
think
what
I
see
and
again
I'm,
not
an
engineer.
So
this
is
Big
Picture
stuff
I
understand
that.
But
what
I
see
is
a
labor
market.
This
is
a
labor
job
I
understand.
Maybe
we
need
project
managers,
but
aren't
there
company
I'm
just
going
to
ask
it
bluntly?
Aren't
there
companies
out
there
that
we
can
hire
to
help
us
do
this.
R
Yes,
from
a
from
a
project
management
perspective,
there
are
companies
and
we
do
hire
them
for
perspective.
It
is
very
expensive
and
and
definitely
worth
it
when
we're
doing
specialized
engineering
work,
for
instance,
when
we're
easy
example
right
is
built
in
the
deep
tunnel
homestation
project
right,
there's
somewhere
between
10
and
20
different
engineering,
Specialties
involved
with
a
project
like
that,
so
you're
not
going
to
hire
20
full-time
Engineers,
who
would
each
only
be
working
for
a
month
or
two
on
a
project
per
year
at
a
city
level?
It's
much.
R
It
is
much
cheaper
to
hire
externally
and
do
that.
Work,
I
think
what
we
generally
try
to
avoid:
Hiring
Our
people
who
are
performing
the
day-to-day
functions
of
City
staff
at
a
consultant
rate
because
typically,
and
certainly
many
of
the
Consular
professional
staff
too
typically
you're,
seeing
billing
rates
roughly
three
times
the
hourly
pay
rate
for
a
consulting
firm.
So
it's
it's
a
little
bit
disheartening,
sometimes
to
staff
to
see
someone
making
any
person
is
not
making
that
money.
It
is
the
company
making
that
money,
but
also
we
talk
about
vacancies
right.
R
R
D
R
R
The
projects
he
manages
are
large
is
also
managing
all
the
small
projects.
Right
so
I
mean
it's,
it
there's
only
so
much.
He
can
do
in
small
Project
work
before
we
start
dropping
the
ball
on
larger
projects
and
slowing
down
larger
projects.
So
it's
there
is
still
a
capacity
issue
with
the
managing
I
mean
that's
again,
we're
four
out
of
six
project
managers
currently
so
that
there's
percentage-wise,
that's
a
pretty
big
impact.
D
B
You
so
just
before
we
move
on
I
I
want
to
thank
Matt
and
we've
complimented
him
at
many
of
your
committee
meetings,
because
y'all
I
I
get
it
I
appreciate
the
willingness
for
us
to
support
them
to
get
the
job
done,
and
the
labor
market
has
been
crazy,
but
in
the
last
few
years
they
have
managed
more
large
projects.
They've
managed
more
small
projects,
they've
cleaned,
more
ditches
than
this
city
ever
did
in
their
early
years
of
your
service
council
member
Gregory,
we
weren't
even
doing
a
regular
maintenance
of
all
our
ditches.
B
You
got
240
miles
of
them.
Honestly,
you
have
to
prioritize
things.
Sometimes
some
of
those
two
240
miles
of
ditches
aren't
creating
any
problems,
and
so
council
member
wearing
I
I
appreciate
you
bringing
the
specificity
of
particular
folks.
Who've
had
problems
of
water
getting
in
their
homes,
for
example,
honestly
I
haven't
heard
of
that
many
of
them
in
the
last
few
years,
since
the
last
big
storm
we
had
I
know,
there
was
one
noted
in
the
paper
recently
as
it
turned
out.
B
I'm
not
saying
everything
spoken
here
tonight
needs
to
be
addressed
to
pay
our
workers
more
to
fill
those
ranks,
so
we
can
do
it,
but
even
even
so,
there
is
a
a
game
plan
out
there.
We're
not
cleaning
240
miles
of
ditches
in
one
year,
we're
going
to
rotate
them
over
time
in
a
very
reasonable
logical
fashion,
assuming
we
had
employees
and
things
in
the
meantime.
B
A
A
A
Dollars
right
so
gotcha
that
and
that's
helpful
when
we
come
back
to
Public
Works.
We
need
to
take
that
up
and
think
about
that
budgets
against
reality
are
things
that
we
really
need
to
be
thinking
about
and
then
councilmember
Parker's
point.
We
need
to
go
out
there
and
get
some
help
so
I
mean
okay.
B
I
B
M
B
I
B
G
I
Period
of
fulfilling
the
vacancies
on
our
special
Commission,
so
one
of
the
things
I
brought
up
at
a
time
was
that
this
amendment
should
not
just
be
applied
to
this
Commission.
We
we
have
other
boards
and
we
have
other
commissions
that
all
right
ordinance
are
created
with
our
input
and
our
recommendation
to
bring
up
somebody
to
fill
that
particular
slot.
I
We
have
a
privilege
of
nominating
somebody
in
that
slot,
so
my
request
really
was
in
addressing
this
particular
issue
to
make
an
ordinance
to
cover
all
of
our
commissions,
so
that,
in
the
event
that
we
have
a
opportunity
to
appoint
someone
as
a
representative
from
District,
9
or
District,
eight
or
District
12.,
if
there's
a
vacancy
or
we're
unable
to
fill
that,
that
we
have
a
mechanism
that
perhaps
May
or
some
other
way
fulfilling
that
so
I'm
going
to
vote
for
this
tonight.
I
think
we
need
to
do
this
to
get
it
going.
I
But
I
really
would
like
for
legal
to
prepare
it,
maybe
a
broad
umbrella,
ordinance
to
address
other
commissions
that
have
vacancies
when
we
don't
have
a
the
opportunity
to
appoint
that.
Because
of
our
inability
to
find
somebody-
or
we
can't
get
someone
to
agree
to
that-
that
person,
the
mayor
has
a
maybe
that
process
or
some
other
process
to
have
that
spread
away.
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor.
F
Yes,
thank
you
Mr
Mayor,
yes,
I
would
just
agree
that
you
know
I
think
Mr
Mayor.
You
know
that
I
have
asked
I.T
and
I
believe
that
mayor's
office,
that
you
run
the
website
that
shows
our
constituents
all
of
our
commissions
and
committees
and
things
that
they
can
join,
and
it's
very
very
out
of
date,
so
they've
been
working
on
that
I.
Think
with
your
office
I.
F
So
I
would
really
I
would
really
encourage
I
think
this
should
be
an
across
the
you
know.
I
would
definitely
you
know
agree
with
what
council
member
shade
said
that,
hopefully
legal
can
come
up
with
something
because
I'm
sure
that
there
are
a
lot
of
commissions
with
vacant
seats
that
people
would
be
willing
to
fill.
So.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
Thank
you
mayor.
It
sounds
to
me
that
we
will
probably
pass
this,
but
I
just
want
to
encourage
my
fellow
council
members
to
to
give
this
first
reading.
These
are
very
light
changes
to
the
ordinance,
but
with
that
I
did
want
to
take
this
time
to
recognize
Ms
Adrian
swin
who's,
the
new
manager
for
for
the
office
agent.
If
you
could
please
stand
she
started,
she
started
back
in
June
or
July
August.
E
It
seems
like
it's
been
forever,
but
you
hit
the
ground
running,
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
know
folks
knew
who
you
were
and
then
I'm
going
to
encourage
our
council
members
as
well
as
the
mayor,
to
make
sure
that
you,
you
come
back
at
some
point
for
a
full
debrief
on
on
what
you've
encountered
for
the
couple
months
of
your
job.
I
think
it'd
be
helpful
for
Council
to
hear
that.
B
O
O
Right
and
I
and
I
understand
the
the
idea
there
in
trying
to
get
somebody
on
there
quickly.
I
know
that
when
we
form
this
particular
commission,
we
were
trying
to
make
it
where
every
where
every
council
member
you
know
had
a
representative
or
represented
on
on
this
commission,
I
I'm
I'm
kind
of
a
guilty
party
on
here,
because
the
person
I
recommend
it
is
no
longer
on
that
committee.
But
I
just
feel
like
that.
O
It
ought
to
go
back
to
that
council
member
first
to
see
if
the
council
member
could
replace
that
and
within
a
certain
amount
of
time.
If
that
doesn't
happen,
then
maybe
it
it
goes
to
the
mayor,
but
I
I
just
feel
like
the
way
we
form
this
and
the
amount
of
time
that
we
spent
spreading.
That
out.
I
just
feel
like
it
ought
to
go
back
to
that
council
member
first
for
at
least
a
certain
amount
of
time
before.
Moving
on
to
you
know
to
to
a
nomination
outside
of
that
council
member.
O
That,
if,
if
they,
if
they've
resigned
but
the
way
this
reads
is
if
they
missed
three
meetings,
I
believe
which,
which
I
understand
we've
got
to
have
people
on
there.
I
I
understand
that
I
just
I
don't
know
I
I
just
felt
like
before.
It
goes
back
to
that.
We
ought
to
see
if
we
can
reach
back
to
that,
that
council,
member.
H
D
I
understand
I,
understand
that
portion,
but
the
peace,
State
councilman
Sheila
is
saying
that
the
person,
let's
say
I
appointed,
went
to
a
meeting
and
didn't
like
it
and
I
didn't
know
that
they
weren't
going
to
the
meetings
that
vacancy
should
be
brought
to
my
attention
and
that's
right.
It
should
be,
and.
B
I
think
that's
right
all
right,
any
other
discussion
or
suggestions
council
member
Sacrament.
Did
you
have
another
comment?
Okay,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
haven't
we'll
dust
that
up
a
little
bit
and
next
we
had
an
item
regarding
the
Third
Amendment
to
the
development
agreement
for
Kane
Hawaii
Plantation.
B
B
Any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposey
eyes
have
it.
Next
we
had
a
few
items
to
discuss
and
an
executive
session,
including
the
legal
update,
consideration
of
a
resolution,
fire
station
11
to
receive
legal
advice
and
consideration
potential
land
purchase
to
receive
legal
advice,
consideration
corrective
filing
on
the
Dewberry
settlement
and
to
receive
legal
advice
and
consideration
on
proposed
Harmony
litigation
settlement
can
I
I.
L
Promise,
let's
make
a
quick
statement:
I
would
like
I,
still
ask
my
odd
for
recreation
parks
to
get
back
with
me
with
the
trees.
That's
on
Martin,
par
and
I
haven't
heard
anything
yet
and
I
wanted
them
to
get
back
with
me.
Let
me
know
if
he
was
going
to
cut
those
trees
back
to
the
Sea
and
Holly
was
going
to
do
it.
Okay,
and
that
was
I
say
that
last
meeting
and
I
told
him
get
back
with
me
by
this
meeting.
I
haven't
heard
one
thing
from
them,
yet
that
kind.
L
H
L
I
was
saying,
with
the
camera
that
we
had
prior
to
the
renovation
of
the
food
that
particular
camera
was
looking
over
and
they
moved
it
where
they
have
the
big
equipment
on
the
outside.
But
the
cameras
couldn't
see
because
of
the
trees
were
there
for
Jackson,
Street
and
I
was
asking
them
to
look
at
it
to
see
what
they
could
do
if
they
have
to
trimming
the
teenager
and
to
get
back
with
me
on
that
and
I
haven't
heard
anything.
No
one
got
back
with
me
on
that.
L
H
I
did
neglect
I
heard
you
at
the
last
meeting,
but
I
didn't
write
it
down.
We
will
look
into
it.
I
did
talk
to
the
recreation.
Really.
Can
you
hear
me?
They
do
have
cameras
inside
the
facility,
we'll
look
to
see
if
there
was
one
that
was
moved
but
I'll
have
to
defer
to
the
police
department.
If
there
are
security
cameras
that
they
monitor
or
not,
but
we
can
look
into
it.
L
J
J
M
K
I
have
been
in
communication
about
this
issue
as
well
and
having
someone
from
the
school
district
as
well
as
potentially
the
Sheriff's
Office,
or
whoever
provides
the
school
resource
officer
to
put
that
on
the
record.
During
a
traffic
and
transportation
committee
meeting,
which
will
then
obviously
be
reported.
J
K
J
B
D
A
B
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed.
So
let
me
just
say
to
the
public,
since
we
have
a
couple
of
council
members
on
zoom
we're
going
to
hold
this
executive
session
in
my
office,
and
since
we
have
five
items
to
discuss
to
discuss,
it
may
be
a
while
before
we
get
back
so
we'll
see
you
tomorrow
or
the
next
day.