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City of Charleston Accommodations Tax Advisory 4/14/22
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We
will
move
into
the
introduction.
I
believe
we
have
councilman
gregory,
of
course,
is
here.
Skip
condon
is
here
ben.
The
alessandro
is
here
and
casey
lavin
is
here
and
then
also
for
staff.
We
have
amy
wharton,
our
cfo,
andrea
from
the
clerk's
office,
who's
doing
the
minutes,
and
me
kathy
marshall,
so,
and
I
think
this
is
I'm
showing
up
as
guest
5,
but
this
is
jamie
dewitt,
oh
hi,
jamie
and
terri
anne.
I
believe
our
brand
compliance
manager
is
also
in
here
with
us
today.
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So
can
y'all
see
that
one?
Now?
Yes,
okay,
so
we're
gonna
run
through
this
pretty
quickly.
Those
of
you
that
have
been
on
the
committee
for
a
few
years-
or
this
will
be
a
good
refresher
for
you
just
in
case
but
for
the
new
and
the
new
committee
members.
If
you
have
any
questions
as
we
go
through
this,
please
just
interrupt
me
and
ask
this
advisory
committee
is
required
by
state
law,
it's
appointed
by
city
council,
and
it
must
consist
of
seven
seven
members
who
meet
these
specific
qualifications.
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Four
have
to
be
from
the
hospitality
industry,
of
which
two
must
be
from
the
lodging
sector.
So
there's
your
two
members
that
are
the
represent
hotels,
the
other
two
hospitality
industry.
Members
must
be
from
other
areas.
It
could
be
tour
guides
or
restaurants
or
whatever.
So
we
have
two
restaurant
members
for
us,
and
then
we
have
one
member
that
represents
a
cultural
interest
of
the
city
and
that's
mamie
bush
and
she
is
not
with
us
today
because
she's
out
of
town
and
then
we
have
two
at-large
members,
which
is
jamie,
dewitt
and
councilmember
gregory.
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The
function
of
the
advisory
committee
is
its
advisory.
As
the
title
says.
They
advise
the
city
of
charleston
on
the
expenditure
of
the
revenue
generated
from
accommodations
tax
and
the
requirements
under
state
law
say
that
this
committee
must
submit
a
written
recommendation
to
the
municipality
at
least
once
a
year.
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So
we
always
have
a
letter,
that's
signed
by
the
chairman,
which
is
councilmember
gregory,
that
is
attached
to
the
the
amended
budget
or
the
draft
budget,
or
whatever
phase
we're
in
at
that
point
in
time,
and
that
is
submitted
to
ways
it
through
ways
and
means
to
city
council,
and
the
committee
also
must
review
the
applications
that
the
municipality
receives
for
spending
of
accommodations
tax.
Now
not
everything
we
do
is
via
an
application
process.
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So,
if
you're
renting
your
beach
house
for
a
week
at
a
time
or
you
know
that
that
would
fall
into
transit
and
you
must
collect
accommodations
tax.
But
if
you
have
a
rental
property
that
you're
renting
for
a
semester
to
a
college
student
that
would
not
call
that
would
not
require
you
to
collect
accommodations
tax.
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There's
also
a
robin
hood
clause
that
ensures
that
each
county
in
the
state
receives
at
least
fifty
thousand
dollars
per
year
in
accommodations
tax.
And
you
know
you
have
a
lot
of
counties
that
have
an
interstate
running
through
them
and
probably
the
only
hotels
they
have
might
be
ones
that
are
located
at
those
interstate
exits.
So
they
may
not
get
50
000
if
that's
their
only
lodging
industry,
but
the
the
counties
that
collect
more
than
four
hundred
thousand
a
year
of
which
charleston
county
is
one
of
them.
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They
don't
withhold
it
up
front.
So,
just
so
you're
aware
the
city
has
other
tourism
revenues,
and
you
may
hear
talk
about
those
at
city,
council
meetings
or
you
know,
read
about
them
in
the
newspaper
or
whatever
that
are
that
are
also
have
rules
similar
to
state
accommodations
tax.
We
have
a
municipal
accommodations
tax,
which
is
a
local
tax.
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Same
thing,
two
percent
charleston,
the
city
of
I'm
sorry
charleston
county,
collects
that
for
us
because
they
also
have
a
local
accommodations
tax.
So
they
collect
both
pieces
of
it
because
it's
the
same
hotels,
paying
the
same
percentage
to
them
that
we
would
get
so
they
just
collect
and
give
us
our
share.
And
then
we
have
a
hospitality
fee
which
is
on
prepared
food
and
beverages
and
that's
collected
by
the
city
of
charleston
revenue
collections
division.
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So
the
law
sets
out
how
accommodations
tax
revenue
has
to
be
allocated
by
the
municipalities.
The
first
25
000
plus
five
percent
of
the
balance,
is
allocated
to
the
general
fund
of
the
municipality
and
it
is
exempt
from
all
of
the
requirements,
which
means
it's
unrestricted.
It
just
becomes
general
revenues
in
the
general
fund,
so
I
guess
that
was
probably
established
that
way
to
help
us
cover
the
costs
of
say
implementing
this
fund.
Although
I
don't
seem
to
get,
I
didn't
get
an
extra
salary
for
this
piece,
but
anyway
the
fir.
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Thirty
percent
of
the
balance
is
allocated
to
a
special
fund
and
it
is
only
to
be
used
for
advertising
and
promotion
of
tourism,
and
the
law
requires
that
a
municipality
select,
an
organization
that
is
currently
in
existence
to
manage
and
direct
spending
of
those
funds.
And
if
there
wasn't
already
an
entity
in
existence,
then
we
could
establish
our
own,
but
we
had
the
cbb
already
doing
a
really
good
job
with
marketing
charleston,
as
you
can
tell
by
all
the
tourists
that
are
walking
up
and
down
the
street
today.
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So
that
is
our
designated
marketing
organization,
so
they
get
30
percent
of
the
balance
of
the
revenue.
The
next
piece
of
it
is
the
remaining
65
percent,
plus
any
interest.
That's
earned
on
the
money
that
we
have
in
the
bank
before
we
spin
it.
It
is
allocated
to
what
we
call
the
65
fund
and
used
for
tourism-related
expenditures.
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In
other
words,
where
the
money
was
generated
or
the
revenue
was
generated,
and
then
in
counties
with
a
high
concentration
of
tourism,
you
can
also
use
funds
to
provide
additional
county
and
municipal
services,
for
instance,
if
you
need
extra
police
protection
because
you
have
festivals
or
that
sort
of
thing,
and
that's
only
for
those
counties
that
have
that
collect
more
than
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
That's
how
they
define
a
high
concentration
of
tourism.
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So
there's
a
you
know,
you
can't
use
it
to
provide
what
the
municipality
would
already
have
to
have.
You
have
to
only
use
it
for
the
extra
cost.
That's
directly
attributable
to
the
tourism
that
are
the
tourists
that
are
present
in
your
city.
You
can
use
it
for
public
facilities
such
as
restrooms
or
parks,
or
parking
lots
that
are
required
for
tourism
activities,
tourist
shuttle
transportation,
for
instance,
the
dash
shuttle
that's
downtown,
that
is
free.
We
can
use
that.
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We
give
it
to
these
organizations,
then,
generally
speaking,
when
they
apply
for
money,
it's
going
to
fall
into
those
first
three
categories:
it's
going
to
be
advertising,
it's
going
to
be
promotion
of
arts
and
cultural
events,
and
it
might
be,
and
very
often
is,
construction,
maintenance
or
operation
of
facilities
for
civic
and
cultural
activities,
such
as
the
museum
or
other
facilities
that
attract
and
draw
tourists,
promotion
and
arts
and
cultural
events.
Sometimes
that's
our
festivals
and
all,
but
a
lot
of
times.
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The
law
also
provides
for
the
state
of
south
carolina
tourism
expenditure
review
committee,
which
operates
through
the
department
of
revenue
it's
authorized
by
the
statute.
They
have
the
oversight,
responsibility
for
the
spending
of
a
tax
funds,
and
we
must
file
a
report
with
them
annually
detailing
how
much
money
we
received
and
what
we
did
with
it,
how
we
spent
it
which
organizations
we
gave
it
to,
and
we
also
have
to
give
them
a
list
part
of
their
report.
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Just
is
you
know
who
applied
for
funding
and
how
much
do
they
ask
for
and
then,
of
course,
how
much
we
actually
gave
them
if
any,
there
is
a
website
that
what
we
call
turk
tourism
expenditure
review
committee-
they
operate
a
website,
they
have.
The
state
law
is
available.
There
there's
some
guidance
and
interpretations
of
statutes
available
there.
It's
it's
kind
of
a
resource
for
those
kind
of
questions
we
might
have
about
what's
eligible,
so
just
some
basic
interpretations
of
tourism-related
expenditures.
How
do
you
define
that?
C
What
does
it
mean
when
you
say
tourism
related?
Well,
tourism
is
activities
of
people
taking
trips
outside
their
home
communities,
except
for
commuting
to
and
from
work.
So
if,
if
I
live
outside
of
the
city
of
charleston,
I
come
into
charleston
every
day
for
work,
I'm
not
a
tourist,
but
somebody
who
comes
down
here
they
may
come.
C
Actually,
I
think,
challenged
the
state
at
one
point
years
ago
that
they
needed
to
be
able
to
spend
accommodations
tax
money
to
do
beach,
cleanup
and
all
after
you
know
like
the
fourth
of
july
weekend
and
all
because
you
had
so
many
people
coming
in
to
those
island
communities
to
go
to
the
beach,
but
they
didn't
necessarily
spend
the
night.
So
there's
some
flexibility
in
that.
It's
not
a
a
cut
and
dried
answer.
You
know,
for
you
got
to
be
50
miles
away
before
you
count
as
a
tourist
there's.
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Also
some
other
things
that
are
considered.
You
have
to
attract
tourists
or
you
have
to
provide
for
them
for
this
money
to
be
eligible
for
tourism-related
expenditures,
free
to
be
considered
a
tourism-related
expenditure,
and
it
can't
be
used
for
an
item
that
the
municipality
would
already
provide
like.
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That,
if,
if
those
police
cars
were
things
that
they
would
normally
have
to
have,
if
they
cannot,
because
they
can't
use
it
for
those
extra
things,
because
they're
not
over
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
revenue
collections,
so
something
that
the
municipality
would
normally
have
to
provide
cannot
be
used.
You
can't
use
this
money
for
that
unless
you're
in
that
over
400
000
high
tourism
concentration
category
some
of
the
things
we've
figured
out
over
time
or
that
we've
looked
into
over
time
that
aren't
eligible
for
a
tax
funding.
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We
don't
fund
salaries
with
grant
awards
and,
for
instance,
even
if
mayor
teclenberg
spent
a
large
amount
of
his
time
dealing
with
promoting
tourism,
we
would
have
to
have
a
mayor
anyway.
So
we
can't
fund
that
salary
and
we
do
not
fund
salaries
through
the
grants,
either
statues
and
monuments
that
well,
I
spelled
statues
wrong.
Didn't
I.
I
have
statutes.
Oh
well,
statues
and
monuments
dedicated
to
a
local
figure
are
not
considered
to
be
a
tourism
draw.
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But
if
you
had
a
monument
or
something
to
a
national
figure
or
to
a
national
historic
event,
such
as
say
you
had
a
world
war
ii
memorial
that
might
qualify
for
tourism
funding,
educational
school-based
outreach
programs
that
some
of
the
major
tourist
events
have.
We
had
an
instance
where
one
of
the
major
music
festivals
went
into
the
schools
and
did
outreach
programs
to
expose
the
school
children
to
jazz.
I
believe
it
was
or
blues,
and
we
wanted
to
fund
that
with
a
tax,
but
that
was
not
eligible.
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In
other
words,
if
you
had
a
health
clinic
that
served
tourists,
that
would
be
eligible
particularly
say
if
you
had
a
health
clinic
that
was
located
near
a
large
tourism
attraction
and
like
if
you
had,
if
we
had
an
amusement
park
or
something
like
that,
and
there
had
to
be
a
health
clinic
that
would
be
eligible.
But
if
that
health
clinic
is
to
serve
the
people
who
work
in
hotels
or
restaurants,
it
is
not
eligible
because
it
doesn't
serve
tourists
to
provide
for
tourists
directly.
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C
So
as
we
go
through
these
applications
as
you're
reading
them
and
evaluating
them-
and
I
realize
this
is
a
little
bit
late
on
the
information
since
hopefully,
you've
already
read
them,
but
what
we
are
looking
for.
Generally
speaking,
first
of
all,
we
want
to
determine
if
the
applicant
is
eligible,
do
they
meet
those
qualifications?
Are
they
a
non-profit
or
one
of
those
other
entities?
C
Do
the
planned
expenditures?
What
they're
asking
for
does
that
fall
into
one
of
those
eligible
tourism
related
categories
such
as
you
know,
advertising
and
promotion?
What's
the
relative
tourism
impact,
in
other
words,
the
return
on
investment?
If
we
spend
accommodations
tax
money
on
their
advertising,
do
they
in
turn
bring
in
tourists
in
order
to
increase
the
amount
of
accommodations
tax
that
we
will
get
in
the
future,
which
in
turn,
we
can
reinvest
and
attract
more
tourists?
So
they
have
to
have
a
demonstrated
impact
or
they
should
have
a
demonstrated
impact
on
heads
and
beds.
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C
We
also
need
to
think
about
as
we're
evaluating
these
applications.
We
have
these
large
events,
festivals,
attractions
versus
some
of
the
smaller
ones,
and
you
know
the
the
easy
answer
would
be
well.
The
larger
ones
obviously
have
more
tourism
impacts.
So
let's
just
not
pay
attention
to
the
smaller
ones,
but
the
smaller
events.
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C
So
the
next
slide
is
what
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
a
little
example.
We
don't
formally
do
this
when
we
review
applications,
but
it's
kind
of
a
good
way
to
look
at
the
information.
That's
provided
in
that
application
and
evaluate
it.
So
I
have
four
events
here.
These
are
just
ones
I
completely
made
up
and
a
b
and
d
all
have
a
total
event
budget
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
they
all
get
100
10
000
of
a
tax
from
the
city.
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C
You
did
didn't
you
anyway,
so
if
you
look
at
the
total
amount
funded
by
a
tax
in
each
of
these
examples,
you'll
see
that
in
a
and
b
it's
fifteen
percent
fifteen
thousand
dollars
out
of
a
hundred
thousand
and
c,
which
is
a
really
large
event.
That's
two
million
dollar
budget.
The
amount
of
a
tax
is
10
and
in
event,
d,
it's
10.
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C
In
event.
A
the
total
attendance
is
10
000.,
so
the
percentage
of
tourism
tourist
attending
is
twenty
thousand,
and
that
is
higher
than
the
percentage
of
the
budget
funded
by
a
tax,
which
is
fifteen
percent.
But
you
look
at
then
b
and
because
they've
got
another
10,
000
tour
of
in
attendance
and
only
2
000
still
or
tourists,
then
that
throws
that
off.
The
total
percent
of
the
budget
is
15.
That's
funded
by
a
tax,
but
the
percentage
of
tourists
attending
is
only
10..
C
C
Oh
you're
welcome
approval
of
minutes.
I
realized
that
many
of
you
who
are
here
today
were
not
part
of
the
committee
in
2020
when
we
had
a
meeting
then
that
we
never
got
those
minutes
approved.
So
we
have
minutes
for
our
last
meeting
in
december
and
also
from
the
previous
november
2020,
so
councilmember
gregory
I'll.
Let
you
handle
that.
A
A
C
So
the
first
thing
we
wanted
to
talk
about
before
we
give
out
where
we
talk
about
the
the
applications
is,
I
want
to
just
refresh
your
memory
on
the
revenue
in
the
past
years.
We
talked
about
this
back
in
december,
but
in
2019
we
received
a
little
over
7.7
million
dollars
of
accommodations
tax
revenue
from
the
state
in
2020.
C
That
number
dropped
considerably,
as
everybody
knows
to
4.4,
actually
that's
more
than
what
we
thought
we
would
receive,
so
that
was
actually
a
little
bit
of
a
nice
surprise
at
the
end
of
the
year
that
we
did
get
that
much
and
in
2021
we
had
originally
budgeted.
I
think
3.6
million
dollars,
because
in
2020
that
first
quarter
of
2020
was
not
impacted
as
much
by
kobe,
but
we.
A
C
C
So
we
closing
out
we're
in
the
process
of
closing
our
financial
year
2021,
but
the
excess
revenue
rolls
into
fund
balance,
which
means
it
can
be
spent
as
long
as
it's
part
of
the
budget
in
2022
or
future
years.
Now.
Remember
that
requirement
that
we
have
to
spend
the
money
within
two
years
after
receiving
it.
We
just
have
to
watch
that
and
make
sure
that
we
are
spending
appropriate
amounts
that
we're
not
holding
on
to
too
much
of
the
funds.
It
is
possible
to
hold
on
to
more
of
it.
C
So
that's
what
our
goal
is
here
is
to
look
at
the
money
we
have
available,
so
we
didn't
have
that
normal
grant
process
in
21
or
2020
for
2022,
because
we
had
other
obligations
and
other
things
that
were
already
committed,
that
we
were
committed
to
that.
We
just
weren't
positive
that
we
would
have
enough
funding
and
we
didn't
want
to
give
out
awards
and
then
then
have
to
tell
everybody
oops.
Sorry,
we
don't
have
enough
money.
We
can't
give
it
to
you.
After
all,.
C
Right
yeah,
the
state
sends
us
this
money
quarterly
and
there's
someone
of
the
delay
because
they
have
to
collect
it
all
first
and
process
it
and
then
send
it
to
us.
So
you
know
we
we
get
it.
Usually
the
first
payment
we
get
each
year
is
in
april,
so
we
haven't
even
gotten
one
for
2022.
Yet
so
that's
why
there's
such
a
delay
that
that
makes
it
even
harder
to
know
what
to
budget
and
how
much
money
we're
going
to
have.
C
C
Some
of
them
we
may
know
because
of
other
communications
we've
had
with
them,
but
I
don't
think
cherry
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
we
didn't
ask
for
that
information
on
this
grant
application.
Did
we?
No,
we
did
not.
No,
so
no,
I
don't
think
and
amy.
You
can
speak
up
if
you
want,
but
we
still
have
to
spend
this
money
on
tourism.
C
B
A
A
I
don't
think,
and
because
this
is
a
tax,
and
this
is
not
arpa
funding
we're
actually
giving
out
pay
tax
funding.
I
don't
think
it
would
affect
anything
that
they're
doing,
because
it's
specifically
for
whatever
event
they're
they're
trying
to
put
on
or
whatever
so
I
don't
think
it
would
affect
it
at
all.
That
makes
sense.
A
C
Now
the
the
amounts
that
we
are
proposing
to
give
out
this
year
are
higher
because
remember
we
talked
about,
we
had
leftover
money
from
2021
and
we
it
we'll
probably
have
we'll
be
over
budget
as
far
as
revenue
is
concerned,
possibly
for
2022
and
we're
kind
of
so
we've
accumulated
some
funds
over
time
that
we
need
to
spend,
and
we
also
know
that
a
lot
of
these
organizations
have
really
just
been.
You
know
trying
to
hold
on
and
get
through
a
difficult
time
so
that
they
can
reopen
and
operate
as
normal.
C
A
But
it's
also
one
how
much
they
ask
so
in
prior
years,
those
organizations
have
always
asked
for
more
than
what
we've
given
them
to
and
because
we
have
a
little
bit
of
extra
funding
this
year,
we
might
be
able
to
fund
them
a
little
bit
better
than
we
have
in
the
past,
more
so
towards
what
they've
asked
for
in
the
past.
If
that
makes
sense,
too
yep.
C
C
C
That's
unallocated
at
this
point
that
the
committee
can
use
to
increase
or
or
give
out
awards
to
different
groups
that
we
didn't
include.
Perhaps,
and
that
would
you
know,
25
000
without
changing
what
we
recommended
for
existing
groups.
Now
I
guess
you
could
you
could
also
make
other
changes
that
would
either
take
funding
away
from
an
existing
group
to
give
it
to
someone
else,
but
there's
25
000
of
unallocated
funding
that
is
available.
A
B
And
I
clearly
understand
that
these
grants
can't
be
used
for
operating
purposes
salaries
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
when
I'm
looking
at
art
forms
okay,
one
of
the
smaller
grantees,
and
when
I
compare
that
compare
him
with
some
of
the
other
kind
of
theater
groups,
I
see
where
there
is
artistic
production
costs,
for
instance,
20
of
the
grant
would
be
for
that.
You
know
I'm
down,
I'm
looking
at
charleston
jazz
really,
but
just
in
looking
at
all
of
them.
B
Okay,
most
of
them
are
definitely
specific
advertising
advertisement
and
promotion.
Only
and
I
was
wondering,
as
I
go
through
it
there,
there
are
some
cases
where
the
recommendation
is
lower
than
the
request,
and
if
I
look
at
the
description
I'm
trying
to
find
out
whether
or
not,
for
instance,
the
request
is
lower,
because
perhaps
there
was
a
portion
that
was
not
specific
out
market
advertising
promotion
only.
B
All
of
which
are
things
that
your
small
or
art
organizations
also
have
to
do.
I
don't
know
if
they're
not
aware
of
it,
but
as
I
read
through
the
descriptions-
and
it
appears
as
though
art
forms
based
on
whatever
is
kind
of
lockstep
and
just
using
their
money
for
promotions
and
does
not
appear
to
at
least
they
didn't
request
it
either
by
the
way,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
determine
if
they
could
have.
A
B
C
Then
construction
and
then
equipment
and
then
other
so
down
under
other
it's
where
they
could
ask
for
production
costs
or
different
things,
and
sometimes
it
might
also
fall
under
like
for
some
like
the
museums
or
the
art
galleries.
It
would
fall
under
item
b,
maintenance
or
operation
of
a
tourism
related
facility
or
buildings.
So,
yes,
some
of
that
is
eligible.
It
just
may
be
for
some
of
the
groups
that
we
felt
like
that
was
a
bigger
ask
than
what
we
should
or
maybe
wasn't
as
easily
documented
as
being
tourism
related.
B
A
B
C
D
B
Well,
what
I
was
attempting
to
do
and
we're
at
art
forms
and
theater
concepts
right,
that's
the
one!
Okay,
I'm
saying
yay
to
it,
because
we
still
have
that
organization
under
the
watchful,
watchful,
watchful
eye
of
our
office
of
cultural
affairs.
Okay
right!
So
for
me,
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a!
I
would
recommend
yes
for
that
one.
B
C
C
B
C
I
don't
think
we
need
to
do
that.
I
think
if
we
just
go
through
them
and
if
anybody
wants
to
recommend
a
change
to
the
amount
that's
listed
here
like
for
art
forms
it's
listed
at
20
000.
If
somebody
wanted
to
make
a
change,
I
could
you
know
plug
in
a
number
here
and
it
would
give
us
the
revised
amount
and
then
we
would
know
I
mean
we've
got
25
000
to
distribute.
If
you
want
to.
B
A
Oh
no,
I
I
think
this
is
a
question.
I
know
we
need
to
get
past
the
first
one.
I
promise
we'll
I'm
sure
we'll
we'll
serve
you
quickly,
but
this
when
it
comes
to
auditing
the
use
of
these
studies
and
understanding
who
are
the
you
know
who
has
a
history
of
being
good
stewards
of
the
dollars
for
the
letter
for
the
letter
of
what
the
inspiration,
the
spirit
of
the
pay
tax
funding
it
does.
You
know,
and
other
atax
committees
have
served
on
that.
A
C
If
their
award
was
higher
than
that,
then
we
just
asked
them
to
fill
out
the
report
and-
and
it's
basically
a
report
that
kind
of
has
the
same.
We
asked
them.
Programmatic
questions
like
was
your
event
successful
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
also
has
an
area
for
them
to
fill
in
what
they
spent.
Some
funds
on.
Our
internal
auditor
usually
takes
like
a
sample
of
awards
each
year,
maybe
five
of
them,
maybe
a
few
more
depending
on.
C
If
there's
some
areas,
we
suspect
we
may
have
some
issues
with
and
they
will
go
to
those
organizations
and
actually
perform
a
quick
little
audit
ask
them
to
show
documentation
for
those
expenditures,
so
we
wouldn't
really
be
auditing
the
ones
that
spent
less
than
five
thousand
dollars,
but
some
of
the
larger
ones
we
may
go.
The
auditor
may
go
and
and
want
to
see
invoices
and
documentation,
and
maybe
their
other
funding
sources
and
just
look
at
as
a
whole.
Do
they
feel
like
the
money
was
appropriately
spent.
A
A
B
A
C
Yes,
14
500
of
what
they
was
for
assisted
listening
devices
for
ada
compliance
and
exhibition
and
preservation
equipment,
and
we
felt
like
that
wasn't
as
good
for
the
tourist
as
it
was
toward
their
normal
membership
and
their
normal
visitors.
You
know
their
members
of
the
library
society
that
would
be
locals
that
we
just
didn't
see
that
that
would
actually
be
specifically
for
tourists.
It
would
be
used
by
everyone
that
came
to
the
library
society.
C
C
Yes,
if
you
look
at
their
application,
you'll
see
that
they
are
a
very
new
organization
and
that
most
of
the
money
they
were
looking,
they
were
asking
for.
In
fact,
275
000
of
that
amount
was
basically
for
fundraising:
general
operations,
community
outreach,
production,
cost,
educational
outreach
and
other
expenses,
in
other
words,.
B
C
So
we
felt
like
what
they
asked
for
in
terms
of
advertising.
Promotion
would
qualify
and
they
do
have.
The
potential
to
you
know
bring
in
tourists
or
tourists
would
attend
their
events,
but
we
didn't
feel
like
we
should
support
them.
A
hundred
percent
they
their
budget
for
2021,
was
92
700,
so
they're
asking
for
a
lot
more
money
than
that,
and-
and
we
don't
see
any
other
funding
sources
that
they
have
available.
So
we
just
didn't
feel
like
we
could
fund
all
of
that
and
that
it
would
be
qualified.
C
A
In
other
words,
just
I
mean
it's
a
new
organization
that
has
the
potential
to
have
a
significant
impact
in
tourism
in
charleston
it
if
it
gets
off
the
ground,
but
it
doesn't
have
a
proven
track
record
and
the
purpose
of
a
tax
funds
is
not
to
receive
money
for
a
new
organization.
It's
kind
of
when
you've
come
to.
C
B
B
While
we
may
get
some
residual,
I
mean
north
charleston's
at
a
point
now,
where
you
know
they're
going
to
come
back.
They
they
accommodate.
They
have
hotels.
My
question
now
is:
are
we
investing
150
000
in
an
organization
that
decided
to
take
the
festival
from
downtown
charleston
to
north
charleston?
C
For
that
one
part
of
the
festival
that
there
were
still
some
things
happening,
downtown
and
there's
still
a
large
draw
downtown
with
the
number
of
restaurants.
But
perhaps
our
are
our
people
on
the
committee
that
are
in
the
hotel
and
restaurant
business
could
address
whether
they
still
felt
an
impact
this
past
year,
with
the
event
being
having
their
their
headline
event
in
north
charleston
y'all
still
see
impact
that
weekend.
A
B
A
I
see
what
I
see
what
you're
saying
it's.
Definitely,
it's
definitely
disappointing.
I
also
understand
they're
paying
a
fee
for
the
use
of
spacing,
which
are
also
you
know,
kind
of
an
antithetical
to
what
atax
is
used
for
I
do
the
impact
of
the
charleston
wine
food
festival
on
charleston.
Tourism
is
not
insignificant
and
it
does,
and
there
are
events
that
happen
downtown
proper.
I
guess
the
question
is
what
impact
of
the
funding
requests
does
the
fact
that
the
remain
happening
where
charleston
had
on
the
total
amount
granted?
A
D
I
I
I
just,
I
think,
not
to
not
to
insult
north
charleston
or
anywhere
up
there,
but
I
don't
think
they
have
the
volume
of
quality
restaurants
that
we
have
downtown
and
then
in
some
of
the
suburbs.
So
I
I
don't
know
that
moving
the
event
up,
there
has
affected
the
the
number
of
tourists
that
would
eat
at
our
establishments.
D
B
B
I
just
don't
see
us
spending
150
000
when
they
went
to
another
another
venue.
That's
just
that's
just
my
my
major
concern.
I
don't
want
for
one.
I
don't
want
us
to
set
a
precedent
here
either
where
we'll
be
now
funding
activities
in
other
jurisdictions,
with
our
limited
dollars,
I
mean,
for
instance,
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
you
guys
took
a
look
at
the
package,
but
there
is
one
application
in
there
that
is
not
funded
because
the
application
was
received
late
and
that's
closing
the
gap.
B
Closing
the
gap
brings
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
with
their
jazz
festival
to
this
this
community,
and
so
to
me,
that's
something
that
we
should
try
to
consider
funding
with
a
part
of
this
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
going
to
another
venue
outside
of
our
city
and
and
eat.
And
when
I
go
to
the
bridge
run,
I
have
sort
of
the
same
problem
we're
giving
north
charleston
50
000
to
use
their
convention
center.
Why
can't
they
give
50
000.
C
D
B
D
C
Okay,
I
will
say
that
with
food
and
wine,
one
thing
that
the
community
internally
the
staff
looked
at
was
the
fact
that
all
of
their
150
000
that
they
were
requesting
was
for
advertising
and
out
of
market,
and
none
of
it
was
production,
cost
or
any
of
that
sort
of
thing.
So
we
thought
that
was
still
bringing
you
know
that
still
had
a
really
good
chance
of
impacting
our
our
hospitality
industry
within
the
city
of
charleston
right,
okay,
but
I'm
not
on
the
committee.
So
that's
up
to
y'all.
A
There
is
a
huge
marketing
lift
that
I
think
the
city
gets.
We
were
on
today's
show
all
of
the
chefs
in
the
city.
The
the
amount
of
the
their
data
is
right
in
the
2019
study,
the
college
trolls
and
the
amount
of
room
nights
they
drive
in
the
city.
So
maybe
maybe
it's
a
you
know:
hey
we're
gonna
we're
not
gonna
honor
150
thousand
we're
gonna,
give
you
a
hundred
thousand.
A
A
C
Their
request
on
the
front
page
of
the
application
is
150
000.
But
if
you
look
at
page
four,
actually
what
they
ask
for
ads
up
to
260
000,
so
we
we
elected
as
a
the
staff,
was
recommended
150
for
the
100
000
for
the
advertising
and
promotions
and
some
of
the
other
costs
down
there.
The
fencing
or
the
security
and
the
kids
running
those
kind
of
things.
Not
the
money
that
went
to
north
charleston
did
mention
something.
A
C
B
B
A
C
A
C
B
B
C
B
A
D
B
B
C
C
It
was
due
on
february
the
3rd
it
was
received
on
february
23rd.
We
do
state
on
our
application
that
late
applications
shall
not
be
funded.
We
have,
I
guess,
our
dilemma
with
that
is
enforcing
that
and
keeping
to
that.
If
someone
like
spaletto
or
southeastern
wildlife
was
late,
because,
if
they're
late
by
five
minutes
is
that
the
same
as
being
like
about
20
days
or
three
days
or
two
days
or
whatever.
A
So
that's
why
we
went
ahead
and
put
it
in
here
for
the
committee
to
kind
of
think
about,
because
we
are
really
off
our
psych,
our
normal
cycle,
even
though
we
did
advertise
it
out
and
we
did
reach
out
to
our
normal
applicants
and
we
did
normally
what
we
do
but
anyways.
That
was
another
reason
why
we
decided
to
just
include.
A
B
C
A
B
B
D
D
Yes,
I
think
we
probably
ought
to
slap
the
risk
for
it
so
to
speak
in
in
a
certain
small
financial
way,
but,
but
you
know
we're
a
culinary
town
and
and
again
not
to
insult
north
charleston,
but
there's
not
an
awful
lot
of
culinary
restaurants
up
there
and
I'll
probably
get
grief
from
a
lot
of
my
friends
for
this.
But
you
know
there's
not
as
many
there's
some
good
restaurants
out
there
don't
get
me
wrong,
but
the
majority
of
the
culinary
restaurants
that
people
perceive
are
in
charleston's,
especially
downtown
yeah.
D
D
A
A
D
Yeah,
what
if
we,
what
if
we,
what
if
we
funded
them
and
basically
said
you
know
by
the
way
guys
we
were
going
to
take
fifty
thousand
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
away
from
your
budget,
but
we've
agreed
to
to
continue
to
fund
it
this
year.
However,
if
you
continue
to
have
it
in
north
charleston
you're
going
to
have
to
go
to
north
charleston
and
ask
for
extra
funds,
because
we're
going
to
reduce
it
next
year,
we're
not
going
to
say
how
much
we're
going
to
reduce,
but
we
we
definitely
you
know.
D
C
A
E
I
do
thank
you
and
thank
you.
Everyone
on
the
committee
for
serving
before
councilmember
gregory
was
the
chair
of
this
committee.
I
was,
and
it's
always
been
an
interesting
process
to
go
through.
I
tuned
in
today,
specifically
to
listen
to
this
conversation
about
charleston
food
and
wine
festival,
and
I'd
like
to
just
give
a
little
perspective
from
where
I
sit,
which
is
on
city
council,
where
we're
going
to
take
up
the
boat
on
this.
E
We
we,
through
this
committee
and
through
the
city
have
funded,
should
also
food
and
wine
festival
at
very
high
levels
for
many
years,
and
the
return
that
we've
gotten
clearly
has
been
some
benefit
in
the
city
to
those
of
you
in
the
industry.
But
we
we,
as
a
city,
have
not
gotten
back
from
them.
What
we've
given
to
them
and-
and
just
so
you
all
know
when,
when
they
decided
to
move
and
become
the
north
charleston
food
and
wine
festival,
they
did
two
things
one.
E
Is
they
left
without
telling
us
we
found
out
about
it
by
reading
it
in
the
newspaper
and,
secondly,
they're
still
trading
off
the
name
of
charleston
and
they're?
Getting
a
huge
benefit
from
that:
it's
not
the
north
charleston
food
wine
fest.
What's
the
charleston
food
wine
festival,
I
will
just
tell
you
from
my
perspective
as
someone
who's
gonna
vote
on
this.
I
think
even
giving
them
50
000
is
generous.
I
would
vote
for
that
amount,
but
I
I
will
not,
and
will
probably
lobby
very
hard
against
a
dime
more
than
that.
E
Really
to
me
is
problematic,
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
that
perspective.
I'm
not
a
member
of
this
committee
and
I
will
take
whatever
recommendations
you
make
and
consider
them
as
I
do
with
everything.
But
my
intent
is
to
speak
out
pretty
loudly
about
this
and
to
to
make
sure
that
that
this
doesn't
happen
again,
especially
with
with
a
group
that
we
have
funded
at
a
huge
level
for
many
many
many
years.
Not
so
much.
The
courtesy
of
a
phone
call
to
me
is
problematic.
E
B
A
I
I'd
suggest
a
hundred
with
further
conversation
to
edward's
point
about.
We
need
data
and
an
understanding
of
the
impact
seems
like
it
seems
like
a
very
fair
approach
on
this
given
significance.
It
has
in
theory
on
room
nights
and
you're
right.
We
need
more
data,
but
it
seems
too
risky
not
to
provide
more
than
50
my
pain.
B
B
C
B
C
A
B
A
B
A
B
C
A
C
C
B
C
C
We
also
added
in
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
the
charleston
museum,
because
they
are
having
trouble
with
their
hvac
system
and
chillers,
and
it's
gonna
cost
them
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
They
think
to
get
that
fixed
they're
concerned
that
if
they
continue
to
have
problems,
it
may
damage
their
collections
as
far
as
the
humidity-
and
you
know
the
temperature.
C
So
since
we
do
have
extra
money
this
year-
and
we
do
own
a
third
of
that
museum
facility,
we
added
in
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
help
them
out
with
that.
They
are
also
getting
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
charleston
county
and
they've,
been
able
to
identify
two
hundred
thousand
in
their
own
budget
that
they
can
put
toward
the
project.
So
we
thought
50
000
was
a
fair
contribution
for
the
city
to
make,
since
we
are
partial
owners
of
the
building.
C
So
at
the
top
we
added
in
fund
balance,
as
I
talked
about
in
the
earlier
presentation
about
you,
know,
fund
balance
that
rolled
over
from
from
2021.
We
added
in
fund
balance,
along
with
the
revenues
that
we
had
budgeted
for
this
year
to
to
give
us
enough
money
to
fund
the
amounts
below.
So
if
we
distribute
the
25
the
2500
from
this
25
000,
we
have
budgeted
and
make
the
other
changes
that
take
50
away
from
food
and
wine.
C
We
will
have
a
little
bit
of
a
surplus
in
the
budget,
which
means
I
can
go
back
and
adjust
that
fund
balance
number
to
make
it
all
balanced
amy.
Does
that
sound?
Okay
to
you?
That's
perfect,
okay!
So
then
what
we
would
be
voting
on
when
we
vote
on
this
amended
budget
will
be
not
exactly
what's
on
your
screen,
but
a
different
amount,
and
I
can
resend
that
out
to
you
once
I
update
it,.