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Description
Commission on Equity, Inclusion, and Racial Conciliation 11/17/2020
B
All
right
well
welcome
everyone.
I'm
gonna
call
our
tuesday
november
17th
special
commission
on
equity,
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation
meeting
to
order.
B
I
don't
know
if
I
need
to
get
a
second
on
that
or
no
all
right,
we'll
just
we'll
just
get
started,
I'm
going
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
Usually
we
have
a
moment
of
silence.
Is
there
anything
you
want
to
just
share
with
us
or
you
want
to
do
us
an
invitation
of
some
sort.
B
B
A
D
That
is
correct.
I
am
ready
to
rock
and
roll
good
evening.
Everyone,
the
youth
and
education
committee,
actually
had
a
chance
to
meet
earlier
this
afternoon.
As
far
as
our
subcommittee,
we
had
a
short
debrief
about
the
training
that
took
place
during
our
special
commission
meeting
with
dr
owens.
D
Excuse
me.
We
also
continued
our
discussion
on
regarding
restorative
practices
in
regards
to
inputs.
What
we
had
decided
since
restorative
practices
is
a
resolution
for
the
actual
issue.
We
decided
to
shift
that
focus
to
the
actual
suspension
rates
we
discussed
having
special
guests
or
individuals
come
into
our
meetings
to
discuss
restorative
practices
and
their
thoughts
on
that,
especially
with
us
having
a
new
school
board
sworn
in
on
last
night.
D
We
then
moved
into
discussion
about
our
resources
and
inputs
as
it
pertains
to
family
and
community
engagement.
In
our
discussion,
we
identified
specifics
to
the
following
resources
and
inputs,
which
included
school
administrators,
community
organizations,
national
organizations,
local
parents
and
community
members
and
funding
resources.
D
There
are
still
questions,
of
course,
as
we
are
drawing
out
our
plans
in
regards
to
budget
allocations
for
the
special
commission.
While
we
are
aware
of
you
know,
of
course,
the
budget
deficits
as
it
pertains
to
the
city
of
charleston,
we're
also,
you
know,
have
are
aware
of
the
research
that
shows
that
you
know
when
budgets
allocate
funding
towards.
You
know
different
things
that
I
know
each
one
of
the
subgroups
are
focused
on
as
it
pertains
to
race
and
equity.
D
It
can
prove
financially
beneficial
and
what
I
I'll
share
the
article
in
the
chat,
but
there's
a
specific
article
referenced.
That's
called
racism
is
hurting
the
economic
well-being
of
its
workforce,
including
white
workers,.
D
Speaks
to
this,
our
next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
wednesday
december
2nd
at
4
30
via
zoom.
Our
goal
between
now
and
then
is
to
have
our
first
draft
of
some
of
our
recommendations
written
out,
and
that
is
all
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
to
go.
First.
C
C
Yeah,
I
will
definitely
connect
you
and
dr
rivers
now
so
that
you
can
talk
about
the
health
issues
as
they
will
relate
to
what
you're
doing,
as
well
as
what
he's
doing
so
I'll
connect
the
two
of
you.
Okay,
thank.
D
D
A
F
F
One
of
the
first
things
that
we
discussed
were
some
of
the
changes
that
were
in
the
south
carolina
housing,
qualified
action
plan
related
to
the
tax
credit
and
bond
funding
for
the
year
2021
in
an
email,
and
we
to
the
co-chairs
about
this,
but
it
basically
had
a
provision
in
it
that
said
that
any
any
developments
within
50
feet
of
a
100
or
500
year
flood
zone
were
ineligible
for
funding
so
that
basically
wiped
out
the
low
country
and
and
most
of
charleston,
and
I
want
to
commend
matt,
ojala
and
julie
davis
on
my
committee
really
getting
some
support
pulled
together.
F
I
think
charleston
had
more
letters
than
anybody
else
that
were
sent
in
and
I
had
a
text
from
the
executive
director
that
charleston
was
going
to
be
fine
and
there
was
good
news.
I
did
not
get
to
connect
with
her
via
phone,
but
I
think
that
that
provision
will
be
taken
out,
but
that
was
a
critical
issue
that
would
have
definitely
affected
the
affordability
for
housing
in
charleston,
and
I
would
like
to
explore
for
things
that
that,
like
that
that
may
come
up
in
the
future
on
how
this
commission
can
be
proactive.
F
C
In
response
to
that,
maybe
maybe
with
because
I
think
that
that
is
going
to
happen
and
of
course
protocol
would
have
it
that
the
commission
has
to
vote
on
it,
etc.
But
I
think
of
the
commission
wants
to
provide
that
to
the
chairs
so
that
we
can
be
able
to
make
those
kinds
of
quick
turnaround
decisions
of
which
we
we
we
will
discuss
with
the
mayor.
C
If
it
has
relationships
with
the
the
city,
I
think
we
can
do
that
as
a
commission
and
and
because
I
I
really
was
kind
of
taken
back
when
the
commission
was
not
able
to
send
issue
something
of
support.
C
F
That
would
be
great.
Thank
you.
Councilmember
gregory
we're
following
right
now
the
cares
act,
finance
funding
that
is
coming
through
south
carolina,
housing,
julie,
davis,
sat
in
on
the
public
hearing
yesterday,
and
I
don't
believe
we
need
support
letters
on
that,
but
that
funding
will
be
coming
down
for
rental
and
mortgage
assistance
and
will
be
available
to
local
governments,
non-profits
council
of
governments
and
so
we're
following
that
as
well.
But
it's
those
kinds
of
issues
that
are
certainly
related
to
funding
coming
to
the
city
that
sometimes
needs
some
quick
turnarounds.
F
I
appreciate
that
the
bulk
of
our
meeting
last
week
we
had
melissa,
maddox
evans
did
a
presentation
on
rad,
because
a
lot
of
our
subcommittee
didn't
really
understand
rad.
She
did
a
great
job.
We
ended
up
discussing
it
for
about
45
minutes
and
just
looking
at
you
know,
community
outreach
and
equality
and
and
how
the
process
takes
place,
and
she
was
really
able
to
give
us
a
lot
of
information.
F
Based
on
some
of
the
information
that
that
we're
gathering
our
committee
on
mobility
did
a
great
job,
they're
working
with
city
staff
right
now
and
they're,
looking
at
the
low
line
and
the
pedestrian
bridge,
and
some
of
the
the
things
that
they're
looking
at
are
tying
the
cook
river
to
funds
to
specific
goals
during
implementation
of
the
project.
F
Ensuring
that
there's
robust
outreach
to
the
surrounding
communities
and
interfacing
with
the
neighborhood
councils
asking
for
letter
support
from
key
stakeholders
and
groups
in
the
black
community,
ensuring
that
the
board
makeup
of
the
load
line
organization
contains
strong
representation
from
these
stakeholder
groups.
Looking
at
naming
locational
markers
and
design
of
the
low
line,
which
I
know
that
will
be
some
interfacing
with
his
history
somebody.
F
So
we
will
be
looking
to
maybe
talk
to
them
about
some
of
the
markers
and
and
items
that
that
they're,
looking
into
also
looking
at
the
low
line,
design
that
recognizes
the
history
of
open
commerce
in
the
black
community,
looking
at
ways
to
provide
these
opportunities
and
looking
to
make
sure
that
exceeds
the
city's
percentage
for
procurement
for
mbe
for
construction.
F
Public
engagement,
we're
also
looking
at
determining
any
partnership
opportunities
that
could
happen
happen
with
south
carolina
state
and
their
new
building
over
on
the
bridge
property
and
exploring
names
for
the
new
pedestrian
bridge
that
speak
to
contributions
of
the
community,
so
that
that
group
has
been
working
well.
F
We're
still
moving
forward
with
a
fair
housing.
Ordinance
of
the
meadows
gave
a
report.
I
believe
he
is
following
up
with
you
councilmember
gregory,
on
specific
language.
He
had.
I
don't
know
if
he's
had
a
chance
to
get
with
you
on
that,
but
he
was
reaching
out
to
hud
and
looking
at
exactly
what
needed
to
be
put
into
that
ordinance
when
it
is
revised,
and
so
he
is
going
to
be
getting
with
you.
So
we
know
what
steps
go
from
there.
That
is
still
in
the
works.
C
F
Okay,
awesome,
I'm
almost
done,
okay,
so
on
the
bar
jurisdiction
north
of
the
september
clark
parkway,
one
of
the
the
struggles
that
we've
had
is
that
we
really
hadn't
connected
with
the
black
community
and
the
ones
that
were
you
know,
having
issues
with
having
to
sell
their
homes
because
they
couldn't
they
couldn't
afford
to
do
the
repairs
and
meet
the
var
standards.
So
today
I
was
able-
and
thank
you
council
member
sacrament
for
sharing
arthur
lawrence's
phone
number.
F
He
was
on
one
of
my
boards
for
years
and
I
couldn't
find
his
contact
information
since
he
stepped
off
the
west
west
side.
Neighborhood
group.
We
had
a
long
discussion
today
and
I'm
actually
meeting
him
on
julie
and
I
am
at
a
house
downtown.
That
is
an
example
where
it
is
in
terrible
shape.
It
really
cannot
be
repaired
by
the
homeowner.
F
They
can't
demolish
it.
It's
in
livability
court
now
they're
facing
fines,
and
so
that
is
how
the
we're
starting
to
dig
in
and
pull
the
layers
of
the
onion
back.
Look
at
how
this
is
affecting
the
black
community
in
the
low
income
community.
He's
got
three
examples
of
these.
We
plan
on
reaching
out
ability
looking
at
how
that
process
works
and,
according
to
winslow
tasty,
they
may
be
supportive,
maybe
some
sort
of
grandfather
clause
for
families
that
have
owned
their
homes
for
more
than
50
years,
or
something
like
that.
F
So
we
will
be
making
specific
recommendations,
but
we've
just
been
having
to
dig
in
and
make
sure
that
we're
just
not
hearing
from
the
people
that
are
buying
the
homes,
folks
lose
the
homes,
and
so
we're
still
moving
forward
with
that.
But
it's
just
taking
a
little
digging.
So
we
will
report
further.
Our
next
meeting
is
december
3rd
and
we
plan
to
have
some
recommendations
shortly
after
that,
but
we
do
need
some
guidance
on
what
form
those
recommendations
need
to
be
in.
E
Yeah,
I'm
back
to
your
mobility
task
group.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
they're
doing
and
I
I
didn't
know
if
they're
aware
that
it's
it's
under
the
county,
jurisdiction
down
on
johns
island
there
until
the
middle
of
december
they're
inviting
public
comment
about
the
widening
of
they
call
it
main
road,
but
basically
it's
a
bo
hicket
road
between
maybank
and
on
down
to
betsy
garrison
and
that's
going
to
take
out
a
lot
of
trees
for
one
thing.
E
But
the
mobility
piece
is
they're
they're,
not
proposing
a
multi-use
path
and
the
charleston
moves
and
conservation
league
are
coming
up
with
an
alternative.
They
want
to
keep
keep
the
road
two
lanes
with
extra
turn
lanes
and
then
go
back
to
the
multi-use
path.
So,
if
you
want
to
check
in
with
with
katie
zimmerman,
I
think
you'd
be
able
to
weigh
in
as
a
mobility
task
group.
B
C
If
I
may
tracy,
because
I'm
sure
the
question
you
raised
in
terms
of
the
format
of
recommendation
is
something
that's
on
everybody's
mind:
it's
not
simply
recommendations,
but
it's
a
blueprint
on
how
you
get
there.
C
Okay,
I
mean
we
can
make
recommendations
forever,
but
without
the
roadmap,
regardless
of
what
it
may
require,
might
require
legislation
we
don't
know
it
may
require
resources,
we
don't
know,
we
need
the
bloop
a
blueprint.
Okay.
So
if
and
using
as
an
example,
let's
say
the
fair
housing
law
that
your
subcommittee
makes
a
recommendation.
That
council
passes
a
fair
housing
law
substantially
equivalent
to
the
national
law.
C
Well,
the
blueprint
is,
how
do
you
get
there
and
it
sounds
like
you've
already
started
with
your
committee
in
terms
of
connecting
with
hud
to
first
find
out
what
the
current
standards
are,
because
it
might
have
different
might
be
different,
and
we
also
need
to
think
in
terms
of
timing,
and
by
that
I
mean
we
may
want
to
wait
until
after
january
20th.
C
I
don't
think
so,
okay,
because
I
think
that
things
are
going
to
be
substantially
different
right,
not
only
in
the
area
of
fair
housing,
but
I
also
think
in
terms
of
any
commission
on
inclusion,
equity,
racial
conciliation.
G
Yes,
david,
yes,
I
think
you're
correct.
We
we,
the
recommendation,
will
come.
Don't
we
have
a
comprehensive
community
development
plan
for
the
city?
Yes,
we
do
it
seemingly
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
agree
on
can
can
be
contained
or
put
in
that
document
that
you
guys
vote
on
as
we
move
forward
for
changing
updating
the
conference
development
plan
and
I
think
that'll
be
a
good
way
to
move
everything
rather
than
having
a
separate
document.
G
But
I
would
say
to
you
I
wouldn't
move
expect.
I
would
right
now.
People
are
going
through
a
lot
of
appointment
of
key
people,
key
positions
in
all
these
categories,
and
I
would
hope
that
we
don't
jump
to
the
gun
and
send
in
some
recommendation
not
knowing
who
the
player
is
going
to
be
in
the
future.
C
I
totally,
I
totally
agree
with
you
some
of
what
we
are
discussing
in
response,
you're,
absolutely
correct.
When
we
talk
about
fair
housing,
for
instance,
that's
the
part
of
the
consolidated
plan
and
the
part
of
the
fair
housing
plan,
yes
of
which
can
be
a
recommendation,
are
part
of
that
plan.
G
C
B
Thank
you
dudley
just
to
to
peel
the
layer
back
on
this
a
little
bit,
and
I
think
I
was
a
chair.
One
of
the
things
I
would
be
thinking
about
was
you
know
the
number
of
recommendations
to
make
and
how
deep
some
of
the
recommendations
are,
and
I
think
I've
heard
this
anecdotally
from
some.
I
think
we
just
need
a
level
set
with
everybody
that
not
every
one
of
the
recommendations
is
as
audacious
and
bold
as
they
are
going
to.
B
B
You
know,
council
members,
the
mayor
to
build
some
consensus
on
council
in
the
community
to
get
some
of
this
stuff
passed.
But
we've
talked
about
this
before
we
want
to
make
sure
that
coming
out
of
of
those
recommendations,
there's
some
low-hanging
fruit
that
we
can
just
you
know,
attack
and
get
in
in
an
act.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
level
that
with
everybody,
because
I
I
have
heard
that
you
know
some
of
the
subcommittees
have
long
lists
of
recommendations
yeah.
B
B
G
And
you
got
to
keep
in
mind
a
lot
of
the
recommendations
will
take
time
to
get
funded
or
to
get
agreement
on
and
you're
not
going
to
get
everything
once
you
might
get
a
few
in
one
year
or
you
might
not
get
any
in
one
year,
but
at
least
you
have
on
the
drawing
board
some
things
that
you
want
to
go
forward
with
and
again,
as
doctor
said,
we
can
include
it
in
other
documents
that
we
use
to
look
for
funding,
but
I
think
it
would
be
a
mistake
to
go
forward
thinking
that
we
got
the
funding
in
place
to
do
all
this
stuff.
G
We
don't
you
never
will
you
can
get
some
things
done,
but
you
have
to
sort
of
know
how
to
place
it
and
negotiate
the
deal
well.
C
Said,
mr
rivers,
and
and
and
if
I
might
add,
if
we
don't
have
an
infrastructure
in
place,
okay,
after
all,
the
subcommittees
provide
their
recommendations,
their
blueprint,
etc,
etc.
G
Yes,
one
thing
about
these
committees
and
I
work
with
a
lot
of
committees
when
people
make
recommendations,
they
think
that
there
will
be
a
whole
just
adopted
across
the
board
you're
making
recommendation,
that's
it
and
we
can
try
to
put
it
in
different
places,
but
we
can't
go
and
let
people
get
upset
because
well
they
didn't
get
in
and
get
my
recommendation.
They
didn't
go
forward.
G
H
Yes,
so
I'm
excited
to
say
that
the
history
and
culture
subcommittee,
we
had
an
outstanding
meeting
last
week,
thursday.
In
about
two
hours,
we
went
through
seven
to
ten
agenda
items
that
required
considerable
thought
and
discussion.
We
heard
reports
from
three
subcommittee
members
on
best
practices
from
other
cities,
as
it
relates
to
monuments,
markers
and
memorials.
H
We
examined
the
three
case:
studies
of
philadelphia,
new
orleans
and
new
york,
and
we
read
reports
from
groups.
Some
were
private
nonprofit
groups
that
did
research
that
they
shared
with
city
officials
on
monuments,
memorials
and
markers
in
the
city.
I
think
that
was
the
case
for
philadelphia
and
new
orleans
and
then
in
the
case
of
new
orleans.
H
Excuse
me
new
york.
This
was
a
special
commission
appointed
by
the
mayor,
I
want
to
say,
maybe
in
2017
or
2018,
to
specifically
provide
what
we're
just
talking
about
recommendations
on
what
to
do
about
current
existing
memorials,
markers
and
monuments
in
new
york
and
future
ones.
And
so
I
actually,
as
I
was
listening
to
the
conversation
just
now.
H
I
would
like
to
forward
the
new
york
report
to
the
co-chairs
and
and
have
you
take
a
look
at
that
as
a
model,
and
let
me
know
whether
or
the
rest
of
us
as
well
know
if
that's
sort
of
what
you're,
what
you're
talking
about,
because
the
new
york
report
they
had
recommendations,
but
they
also
had
like
a
list
of
criteria
that
they
recommended
that
city
government
follow
to
determine,
for
example,
whether
to
remove
or
relocate
a
monument
to
add
a
monument
to
the
landscape.
H
H
In
addition
to
hearing
just
summaries
of
those
reports-
and
I
guess
I
should
say
the
takeaway
we
have
from
those
reports-
is
that
we
know
that
we
as
a
subcommittee
now,
we
kind
of
feel
like
we
kind
of
have
our
head
on
our
shoulders
now
and
just
like
all
the
other
subcommittees
we
want
to
at
our
next.
Several
meetings
start
drafting
our
recommendations,
so
we're
going
to
come
to
our
december
3rd
meeting
with
sets
of
guiding
principles
for
how
to
draft
our
recommendations.
H
The
specific
areas
we
want
to
make
recommendations
in
each
subcommittee
member
is
going
to
come
with
some
specific
recommendations
that
they
think
needs
to
be
employed.
An
interesting
conversation
we
had
is
is
funding.
This
has
come
up
again
and
again,
but
especially
to
make
any
changes
to
the
landscape
that
that
that
individuals
or
community
groups
even
want
to
do.
H
We
discuss
the
need
to
make
funding
opportunities
more
equitable
at
this
time.
If
you
want
to
put
up
a
monument,
a
marker
or
memorial,
our
basic
understanding
is
that
one
needs
to
be
a
non-profit
group
raise
the
funds
yourself
and
you
petition.
We
don't
know
who
yet
that's
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
figure
out
who
who
do
people
go
to
who
want
to
put
up
monuments?
Is
it
the
history
commission?
Is
it
city,
council
itself?
Is
it
the
mayor?
H
We
would
love
to
know,
so
we
would
like
that
information
so
that
we
can
have
a
clear
you
know,
understanding
of
that,
but
nonetheless
whoever
it
is
that
you
go
to
once.
You
have
put
together
this
non-profit
group
and
you
raise
the
funds.
H
Usually
this
only
happens
for
non-profit
groups
that
have
members
with
deep
pockets,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
well-meaning,
wonderful
citizens,
particularly
within
our
african-american
communities,
who
don't
have
that
kind
of
money,
but
they
want
to
see
more
representative
markers
and
monuments
and
and
so
forth
in
our
city.
So
one
of
the
things
we're
going
to
be
brainstorming
about
is
alternative
sources
of
funding
and
how
to
perhaps
make
that
available
through
something
like
I'm
just
throwing
this
out
here.
H
It
might
not
be
this
particular
department,
so
forgive
me
scott,
but
possibly
the
office,
the
department
of
cultural
affairs
or
some
other
city
entity.
So
those
are
things
that
we
have
on
that
we're
going
to
be
throwing
out
on
the
table
at
our
next
meeting
on
december
3rd.
We
also
continued
to
examine
the
existing
inventories
of
south
carolina
state,
historical
markers
and
city
markers.
H
We
are
going
to
have
to
divide
that
up
amongst
our
subcommittee
members
to
really
get
down
to
the
nitty
gritty,
and
our
goal
is
really
just
to
provide
an
overview
of
what
exists
on
our
landscape
within
categories
of
relevance
to
this
committee,
equity,
racial
conciliation
and
inclusion,
because
we
know
what
exists
in
terms
of
the
specific
monuments.
But
how
representative
are
those
monuments
and
markers
within
those
categories?
So
that's
what
we
also
will
be
exploring
in
future
meetings.
H
We
have
been
bogged
down
in
monuments
and
markers
for
the
last
couple
of
meetings,
simply
because
the
material
is
so
voluminous.
But
of
course
that's
not
the
only
those
aren't.
The
only
issues
that
our
subcommittee
is
will
be
addressing
we're
continuing
to
work
with
crystal
roost
and
the
education
committee
we're
looking
forward
now,
tracy
to
working
with
you
and
the
lowline
park.
I
just
learned
about
that
park
and
I've
been
exploring
the
the
blueprint
plans
and
it's
very
fascinating,
and
yes
so
many
opportunities
for
markers,
possibly
even
monuments.
H
If,
if
you
know
people
want
to
go
that
route,
but
there's
a
lot
of
room
in
those
projected
parks,
so
we're
looking
forward
to
that.
We
also
want
to
connect
with
alvin
johnson's
committee
because
of
the
piece
about
funding
we
just.
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
work
together
and
share
ideas
on
ways
to
provide
money
to
do
the
things
that
our
citizens
want
to
do
or
want
to
see
down
on
our
landscape
and
then
we're
also
going
to
get
back
to
culture
and
arts.
H
That's
part
of
our
discussion
about
monuments
and
markers,
but
there's
much
more
to
be
said,
and
we
have
several
committee
members
who
are
very
well
versed
in
the
lacuna,
if
you
will,
in
terms
of
representative
cultural
and
arts,
programming
and
opportunities
in
our
city.
So
we're
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
them
mika
gadsen,
particularly
and
also
lee
pringle
in
our
future
meetings.
C
Yeah
felice
this
is
this-
is
deadly.
We
just
recently
appointed
new
members
to
the
history
commission.
H
C
Yes,
yes,
because,
as
as
as
you
move
forward
and
and
we
talk
about
existing
memorials
and
monuments
that
comes
under
the
purview
of
the
history
commission,
so
you
want
to
you
want
to
link
up
with
them
and
I
think
one
of
your
ex-professors
heads
up
that
commission.
I
can't
remember
his
name,
but
he
said
you
were
a
student
of
his.
C
H
Yeah
I've
already
connected
with
him.
We
just
we
have
to
rearrange.
We
were
supposed
to
meet
today,
but
I
wasn't
able
to
do
that.
So
we
just
have
to
rearrange
our
schedule
and
we
will
be
meeting
to
discuss
partnering
with
the
history
commission.
So
yes,
I
do
understand
that
the
history
commission
makes
decisions
about
like
approving
texts
for
markers
and
then
they
send
that
back
to
the
southland
department
of
archives
and
history
that
they
also,
you
know,
deliberate,
like
you
said,
on
existing
monuments.
H
B
Dr,
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
that.
You
know,
as
the
city
council
members
on
this
commission
get
more
involved,
I
believe
councilman
griffin
is
sits
on
the
history
commission,
okay,
he
might
be
a
good
person
to
connect
with
and.
A
E
Yes,
I
do
serve
on
that
and
I'm
happy
that
that
can
be
a
spot
where
I
can
be
of
value.
B
And
then
please,
the
other
person
I
was
going
to
connect
you
with
was
his
name,
is
jay
white
he's
an
architect
he's
also
on
big
on
the
large
bar
very
involved
and
also
teaches,
I
believe,
a
undergrad
class
in
kind
of
history
and
architecture
I
met
with
him
yesterday.
He
was
very
involved
in
connecting
with
you
so
I'll
make
that
connection
with
you
as
well.
H
Okay,
wonderful,
so
this
is
interesting,
so
board
of
architectural
review
would
all
would
possibly
also
be
involved
in
new
markers,
especially
if
it's
on,
if
it's
something
I
guess
going
on
a
building
not
on
the
street.
Oh.
H
C
I
would
ask
god,
because
the
latest
one
that
I
can
remember
is
the
oh,
I'm
getting
old,
that's
true,
yeah
the
statue
that
was
put
in
hampstead
park
of
phillip
simmons.
A
A
I
Here
we
go
criminal
justice
subcommittee
met
on
the
ninth.
We
welcomed
our
new
member
austin
bennett
and
council
person.
Jackson
sat
in
with
us
the
schedule,
meetings,
presentations
that
we
were
supposed
to
get
from
the
people's
budget
committee
had
to
be
rescheduled
and
a
presentation
from
dr
powers
on
the
history
of
policing
in
charleston
also
had
to
be
rescheduled.
I
We
had
a
discussion
about
the
training
and
urged
our
members
to
go
to
youtube
and
watch
the
discussion.
The
question
of
whether
or
not
we've
come
to
common
language
and
what
that
common
language
might
mean.
As
we
prepare
our
reports,
I
think,
isn't
something
important
to
put
an
opinion
going
forward.
We
did
have
a
discussion
because
our
charge
includes
looking
at
using
racial
equity
impact
assessment
tools,
amber
reported
that
there
is
an
assessment
tool
being
developed
that
will
be
deployed
to
our
committee
and
the
internal
review.
I
Cyber
presented
a
update
on
implementation
of
the
racial
bias
audit
recommendations
in
the
context
of
a
the
one-year
anniversary
of
the
issues
of
the
report
and
in
anticipation
that
the
department
will
be
making
a
public
report
on
the
status
of
of
the
audits
coming
out
of
that
discussion,
one
of
the
things
became
clear,
and
this
may
be
a
short-term
barrier
and
a
long-term
investment
opportunity
investments
necessary
in
establishing
the
data,
collection,
storage
and
analysis
component
in
the
charleston
police
department,
as
well
as
the
interface
with
the
reporting
infrastructure
of
the
state.
I
So
that's
an
area
that
will
be
probably
making
some
comment
in
our
recommendations.
Work
group
on
ordinances
provided
an
outline.
I
The
goals
of
the
ordinance
subcommittees
to
review
and
analyze
the
current
city
ordinances
identify
current
current
ordinances
that
are
just
apparently
applied
desperately
apply
to
charleston
citizens.
Research
proposed
ordinances
from
other
jurisdictions
that
may
create
more
transparency
and
accountability
and
propose
new
ordinances
and
current
ordinances,
changes
that
encourage
equity,
fairness
amongst
all
members,
and
we
have
identify
in
that
preliminary
report
that
has
identified
a
whole
series
of
ordinances
that
may
need
to
be
examined.
I
We're
looking
for
data
to
determine
which
of
these
ordinances
in
fact
appear
to
have
some
racial
disparity
to
recommend
pay
attention
to
those
in
our
early
report,
and
there
are
some
other
areas
where
there's
no
comments
or
no
ordinances
covering
those
areas
that
also
we're
taking
a
look
at
the
other
subcommittee
on
the
courts
has
is
proposing
a
review
that
will
include
sentencing
practices,
access
to
indigenous
services,
technology,
a
way
to
provide
access
to
users
without
need
to
appear
disposition,
predisposition,
enforcement
from
bench
warrants
and
other
activities
use
of
discretionary
programs
and
staffing
patterns.
I
In
that
report,
we've
also
begun
to
talk
through
how
we
secure
input
from
the
broader
community
on
these
changes.
Before
we
get
recommendations
and
an
information
strategy,
as
discussed
earlier
being
outlined,
our
subgroups
have
been
charged
to
identify
any
intersection
with
any
other
other
subcommittees.
I
Youth
in
education,
internal
review
are
amongst
those
that
we
have
already
identified
along
with
economic
opportunity,
and
our
next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
november
23rd
at
six
pm,
a
question
that
I
have
in
view
a
newspaper
article
in
the
post
in
courier,
which
had
some
comments
about
the
work
of
the
housing
mobility
committee.
I
believe
it
was.
I
A
sequester
silence
in
terms
of
the
work
of
the
committees
as
it
relates
to
the
press
and
what's
the
protocol
associated
with
commentary
and
need
some
guidance
in
that
area.
C
Great
question
great
question:
councilwoman
del
chapo,
is
on
the
on
on
in
the
meeting
and
councilwoman
del
chapo
is
our
communications
person.
C
When
we
decided
to
to
form
the
commission,
we
wanted
a
place
where
information
can
be
funneled
through,
so
that
we
can
have
consistency.
So
marie
del
chapo,
marie
you're
on
the
line
right.
C
Marie
councilwoman
el
chapo,
she's,
probably
she's
on
me,
but
before
the
end
of
the
call
we'll
make
sure
that
everybody
has
commissioner
del
chapo's
telephone
number
and
I
think
at
a
minimum.
We
would
like,
for
things
to
at
least
be
bounced
off
of
her.
B
And
I'll
just
add
to
that
what
has
been
happening
is
media
inquiries
have
been
coming
into
to
sydney
and
then
routed
through
amber
and
myself,
where
they've
been
reaching
out
to
myself
and
councilman
gregory
individually,
but
I
would
say
that
you
know
certainly
it's
mona
to
to
add
that
you
know
councilwoman
del
chapo
should
be
looped
in
and
certainly
amber
and
and
councilman
gregory
myself,
and
then
we
can
game
plan
how
a
response
would
go
out,
but
that's
a
great
question.
I
Just
just
so
I'm
clear
if
there
is
an
inquiry
to
me
as
a
member
to
it
should
be
referred
back
to
you,
one
of
the
co-chairs
or
amber
right,
so
it
can
be
cooked.
So.
B
Amber
did
a
great
job
a
couple
weeks
back
and
I
I
can't
remember
was
live
five
or
channel
two,
but
you
did
a
good
job
amber.
Thank.
A
G
We
have
a
meeting
on
thursday.
What
I'd
like
to
say
is
that
basically,
the
direction
we
are
moving,
given
an
outline
I
provided
some
time
ago
we're
looking
at
this
relationship
between
human
health
and
environmental
justice.
It's
amazing
to
me
a
lot
of
the
people
who
deal
with
health
disparities
didn't
realize
the
impact
in
minority
communities
that,
when
the
pandemic
hit,
everybody
was
so
so
I
guess,
engage
and
say
well.
Well,
I
didn't
know
this
had
gone
on
in
minority
communities.
G
Most
of
these
disparities,
especially
when
you
look
at
social
determinant,
housing,
education,
poverty.
G
G
About
six
months
ago
we
had
15
000
applicants
to
submit
and
we
won
the
telly
award
for
broadcast
matter.
Of
fact,
we
looked
at
charleston,
we
looked
at
myrtle
beach.
We
look
at
hilton
head
in
other
locations
and
bottom
line
is
we're
saying,
look,
there's
a
relationship
here
that
we
cannot
ignore
anymore,
that
talks
about
human
health,
environmental
injustice
and
relationship.
H
Yes,
this
is
felice.
I
was
just
wondering
which
group
did
the
the
program
that
you
were
referring
to.
G
C
It
would
really
be
great,
as
we
move
forward,
that
we
try
to
get
a
national
focus
on
boston
and
its
needs.
Not
just
you
know,
I
mean
across
the
board,
and
I
think
that
this
commission
really
has
a
rare
opportunity
to
get
that
done,
because
I
think
if
we
can,
if
we
can
do
that,
I
think
we
would
be
a
quarter.
The
way.
G
Yes,
we
have
done
programs
and
outreach
on
health
disparities
in
alabama,
georgia,
mississippi
california
virgin
islands
and
some
other
location
where
we
look
at
this
relationship
and
look
at
the
relationship
between
human
health
and
environment
matter.
Of
fact,
we
did
a
report,
he
said
anytime,
you
talk
about,
we
did
listen,
we
call
called
listening
session
and
all
the
communities
were
concerned
that.
G
About
their
liveability,
especially
when
it
comes
to
environmental
issues
in
general,
and
that
they
did
help
in
a
lot
of
those
areas,
permanent
environmental
justice
standpoint
and
to
look
at
the
health
issues
in
those
communities
and
most
of
the
community
said
the
same
thing.
G
Health
is
a
major
issue
in
their
community,
especially
when
they
live
close
to
a
toxic
dump
site
when
they
live.
They've
lived
through.
I
live
close
to
some
other
chemical
producing
plants,
and
you
know
for
a
fact
that
when
industry
comes
in
to
in
your
community
some
cases,
especially
chemical
producing
plants,
they
look
for
paths
of
least
resistance
by
looking
at
minority
and
low-income
communities
to
locate
these
facilities.
G
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
we're
going
really
into
and
we've
done
on
a
national
level.
We've
had
our
international
conference
to
have
a
joint
joint
conference
between
human,
human,
health
and
environmental
justice
matter.
Of
fact,
we
had
to
postpone
the
last
one
because
of
the
virus,
but
we've
had
combined
conferences
and
people
love
that,
because
we're
looking
at
relationships
and
bringing
different
partnerships
into
the
same
room
to
talk
about
plans
for
going
forward
and
what
some
of
the
issues
are.
G
G
Yes,
one
of
our
first
health
care
health
disparities
conference
in
charleston,
yes,
and
we
we've
had
14
of
them
since
then.
I
know
I've.
A
B
Yes,
thank
you
amber
just
just
wanted
to
update
everyone.
We
will
be
presenting
to
city
council
on
december
8th
just
as
a
just
as
an
informal
update
to
other
council
members
as
well
as
the
public.
The
point
in
that
that
conversation
and
update
really
is
just
an
update
on
where
we
are.
If
we
want
to
share
some
recommendations,
we
can,
but
it's
just
really
an
update
for
the
public.
Also,
I
I
would
really
ask
the
commission
chairs
the
subcommittee
chairs
to
be
available.
B
I'd
like
to
introduce
you
all
and
really
let
folks
know
who's
working
on
all
this,
because
you
guys
have
done
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
over
the
past
a
couple
months,
and
I
know
it's
going
to
continue
and
I
think
you
all
deserve
some
some
public
accolades
and
then
I
think
it's
important.
We
lay
out
next
steps
for
folks
listening.
B
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
questions
from
folks
and
I've
been
trying
to
connect
them
with
appropriate
subcommittee
chairs,
but
folks
want
to
know
like
what
are
the
next
steps,
and
I
think
we
should
just
lay
out
a
you
know,
general
plan
of
where
we're
heading
in
january
and
february
and
with
recommendations.
But
it's
just
just
an
update
for
the
public,
but
more
details
will
be
forthcoming
from
amber
is,
as
that
date
gets
finalized.
The
agenda
gets
finalized.
C
At
least
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
something
that
you
mentioned
earlier
regarding
the
low
line
and
the
relationship
to
mbe
wbe
and
our
economic
empowerment
subcommittee,
and
I
think
you
mention
alfred
al
well.
He
has
already
been
in
communication
with
the
lowline
to
discuss
some
of
the
very
issues
that
that
that
you
articulated
you
know
what
about
women
in
minority
businesses
being
able
to
take
part
in
the
creation
of
many
businesses
that
will
occur
along
that
that
low
line.
C
So
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
you
do
connect
with
him,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
construction
or
identifying
spaces,
where
your
committee
may
recommend
that
a
memorial
or
a
monument
of
some
sort
may
need
to
go.
Now
is
the
time
to
do
that,
because
we
are
on
the
ground
floor
of
design,
etc,
cetera.
C
So
it
would
be
great
for
your
committee
to
continue
your
interaction
with
you
know
what
I'm
going
to
talk
about,
and
you
know
start
identifying
the
where
and
if
and
the
how
but
definitely
connect
with
the
the
economic
empowerment
subcommittee,
because
al
has
already
started
some
dialogue
with
him.
C
B
I'm
sorry
one
last
thing
before
we
depart,
I
love
eight
minutes
amber.
I
want
to
squeeze
it
all
out
of
the
hour
that
we
do
have
together.
I
I
I
was
introduced
to
a
book
a
while
back
and
I'm
going
to
put
it
in
the
chat
for
for
folks
and
for
most
mostly
folks
that
are
on
are
probably
aware
of
this
history,
but
I'm
really
speaking
to
my
white
counterparts
here
on
the
call
and
it's
a
great
book,
and
I
really
recommend
it.
B
It's
called
the
golden
haze
of
memory
and
it's
it's
a
history
of
charleston
and
I'm
just
going
to
read
just
a
few
sentences
from
it,
and
it's
really
helped
me
understand
the
power
of
our
work
and
the
importance
of
our
work,
and
it
speaks
to
just
intertwining
everything
that
we're
doing
on
the
commission
and
just
give
me
a
second
while
I.
B
So
in
the
excerpt
in
this
book
it
says
the
charleston,
this
group
built
yule,
argues
and
mules,
that
is,
the
author,
presented
a
sanitized
yet
highly
remarkable,
highly
marketable
version
of
the
american
past.
Their
efforts
invited
attention
and
praise
from
outsiders
while
protecting
social
hierarchies
and
preserving
the
political
and
economic
power
of
whites.
B
Through
the
example
of
this
colorful,
southern
city
yule
posits
a
larger
critique
about
the
use
of
heritage
and
demonstrates
how
something
is
intangible,
as
the
recalled
past
can
be
transformed
into
real
political,
economic
and
social
power.
It's
a
great
book
and
I
would
highly
recommend
reading
it
and.
C
It
highlighted
areas
where
we
need
markers
the
olsen
james
hotel,
first
african-american
held
hotel,
and
I
can
go
on
so
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
read
that
sunday
paper
and
it
was
done,
I
think,
in
commemoration
of
the
350th
anniversary
of
the
city.
But
it
was
quite
informative
and
I
think
that
everybody
on
this
commission
at
a
minimum
should
should
review
it.
J
Mr
chairman
yeah,
I
read
that
article
and
some
of
those
buildings
as
a
matter
of
fact
on
broad
street,
what
used
to
be
the
old
first
federal
building
with
the
big
columns
and
stuff.
I
can't
tell
you
how
I
used
to
love
that
building
going
in
that
building
yeah.
I
I
don't
look
at
that.
Building
the
same
anymore,
I
don't.
J
He
used
to
store
and
sell
slaves
in
that
building.
Can
you
imagine
walking
in
that
building
today
and
but
anyway,
I
wanted
to
give,
as
we
say,
a
shout
out
to
tracy
doren,
I'm
sure
you
all
saw
the
article
in
the
paper
where
very
difficult
project
that
she's
taken
on
in
her
she
and
her
group,
the
old
archer
school
and
converted
into
affordable
housing.
J
J
You
can
go
around
the
table
and
say
if
you
have
nothing
going
on
in
your
arena,
you
just
say
nothing.
You
know
when
something
like
this
comes
about.
This
is
really
out
of
the
box
thinking
to
convert
that
to
not
only
the
building
to
affordable
housing.
The
city
looked
at
that
for
a
number
of
years.
Councilman
gregory
knows
about
that.
It
was
before
you
came
on
council,
sacrament
and
el
chapo,
but
all
we
could
get
was
40
40,
42
units
or
something
out
of
it
didn't
make
sense
and
it's
cost
prohibitive.
J
But
you
know
warren
buffett
once
said:
it's
amazing
how
fast
this
country
has
advanced
to
world-class
status,
only
utilizing
50
of
his
talent,
meaning,
basically
men,
so
a
woman
in
the
mix,
and
it
goes
from
42
units
to
80
plus
units.
So
I
congratulate
you.
I
hope
there's
all
the
financing
put
to
bed
on
that
miss
doran.
F
Yeah
we
have
our
our
funding
sources,
lined
up
our
tax
credit
investor
and
our
lender,
and
we've
been
going
through
the
the
process
of
having
it
designated
as
a
historic
structure,
and
we
just
emailed
today
that
we're
on
the
agenda
we're
passing.
F
We
passed
the
first
reviews
that
has
taken
a
tremendous
amount
of
architectural
and
engineering
work
and
a
consultant
out
of
columbia
working
with
us,
but
that
is
going
through.
So,
yes,
we
are
making
good
progress
and
it
is
just
taking
time
to
get
all
the
approvals
that
we
need
from
the
different
agencies,
because
we're
utilizing
the
historic
tax
credits,
the
abandoned
building
tax
credits,
the
new
state
tax
credits.
F
No
we're
not
doing
new
market,
you
know
we,
we
are
aren't
tackling
that
one
on
this
one,
but
every
other
tax
credit
we
are
and
we're
also
looking
at
you
know,
making
it
we're,
also
exploring
solar
for
it
and
and
doing
some
things
that
would
make
it
environmentally
sustainable
as
well.
F
So
I
think
it
will
be
a
development
at
the
end
of
the
day
that
everybody
will
be
extremely
proud
of,
and
I
was
I
went
to
the
grace
homes
open
house
on
saturday,
and
I
walked
up
on
that
on
that
top
level
and
looked
over
and
there
was
the
archer
school
and
it
just
sort
of
put
it
all
in
perspective.
What
a
real
piece
of
architecture
that
is
on
the
east
side,
so
we're
proud
to
be
involved
in
it.
J
Thank
you,
wonderful,
wonderful
friends
for
that
shout
out.
Oh
yeah,
I'm
telling
you
a
lot
of
entities
came
together
on
that
one
and
it
is
at
the
core
of
where
it's
needed
most
so
with
rapid
bus
transit
coming
in
and
there
people
can
literally
if
they
need
to
walk
and
hit
mass
transit
once
it's
in
place.
They
could
do
that
basically
for
a
block,
maybe
block
and
a
half,
so
all
the
best
and
whatever
we
can
do.
C
Any
anyone
else
jerome
are
we
pretty
clear
on
the
point
person
for
communication?
It
really
I
mean
really
is
amber
and
and
because
amber
is
the
part
of
all
of
the
subcommittees.
C
Her
along
with
carol,
are
part
of
all
the
subcommittees,
and
so
she's
she's
one
of
the
rare
persons
that
will
be
able
to
pull
it
all
together,
unclear.
Okay,
all
right
is
there
anything?
Yes,
tracy.
F
C
Moved
and
properly
seconded
that
when
a.
C
When
a
subcommittee
has
something
of
urgency
where
it
can't
come
before
the
entire
commission
for
approval,
the
commission
is
then
giving
the
co-chairs
the
authority
and
the
ability
to
make
a
decision.
Did
I
say
that
right,
tracy,
you're.