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City of Charleston Commission on Equity, Inclusion, and Racial Conciliation 10/20/20
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Series
of
meetings-
I
guess
it
was
about
inclusion
and
equity
last
week
and
economic
empowerment.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
here
participated
in
their
meetings,
but
I
I
commented
right
away
that
we
need
to
get
together
with
them
because
it
sounded
like
they
were
really
on
the
right
track.
They
were
heading
in
the
right
direction,.
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B
On
page
the
page
on
page
three
under
youth
and
education
subcommittee,
dr
elise
is
spelled
e-l-I-s-e
and
it's
davis,
hyphen
mcfarland,
also
audrey
lane
is
listed
as
the
co-chair,
and
the
only
other
thing
from
our
committee
that
wasn't
in
the
minutes
was
us
moving
forward
with
the
logic
model.
The
only
other
thing
I
had
is
towards
the
end.
When
we
did
discuss
the
health
group,
we
did
speak
about
the
health
initiative
that
dhec
and
other
community
groups
are
working
on
and
we
were
able
to.
K
I
I
We
thought
it
would
be
appropriate
to
let
you
all
know
that
you
should
reach
out
to
myself
or
your
co-chairs
immediately
if
there's
some
sort
of
interruption,
if
ever
there's
any
feeling
that
you're
unsafe
or
that
you're
threatened.
Please
let
us
know
as
well
so
that
we
can
reach
out
to
chief
reynolds
and
let
him
know
and
that
he
can
move
forward
in
whatever
way
is
appropriate,
and
that's
all
that
I
have
for
that
anything
from
our
co-chairs.
B
Amber
I'm
sorry,
this
is
crystal.
I
don't
mean
to
interrupt
quick
question
with
our
subcommittee
meetings.
We
have
had
individuals
who
are
not
listed
as
subcommittee
members
trying
to
log
into
the
call-
and
I
know
initially
I
was
hesitant
with
letting
them
you
know
actually
into
the
room,
because
I
know
we're
supposed
to
have
it
open
to
the
public.
B
E
Councilman
gregory,
this
is
felice
knight.
My
subcommittee
had
trouble
figuring
out
how
to
mute
control,
the
ability
for
participants
to
mute,
and
we
are
currently
exploring
the
option
of
using
a
webinar
format,
and
we
have
spoken
with
amber
johnson
about
that.
If,
if
that
is
helpful
to
the
rest
of
the
sub
to
the
rest
of
the
commission,
then
you
know
I'd
be
happy
to
coordinate
with
amber
to
share
that
information
of
how
to
set
it
up
as
a
webinar.
D
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E
Well,
I
haven't
tried
it
yet.
We
want
to
we're
going
to
try
it
for
our
next
meeting
and
everything.
I've
researched
online
and
on
the
zoom
website
indicates
that
what
happens
is
you?
You
have
a
host
and
a
co-host,
and
then
you
admit
the
sub,
the
subcommittee
members
as
panelists,
and
then
you
give
the
general
public
a
general
zoom
link
that
simply
lets
them
view
and
listen.
They
can
also
have
access
to
a
written
chat
and
at
some
point
you
can
unmute
the
attendees
and
let
them
speak
if
you
want.
E
A
Yeah,
so
I
don't
know,
if
any
of
you
remember,
but
back
in
april,
that
avery
was
zoomed
with
zumba,
I'm
doing
one
of
our
events
and
after
a
call
with
the
dalai
lama,
the
pope
and
everyone
else.
We
like
we.
I
come
to
the
understanding
that,
with
the
zoo,
the
city
will
have
to
actually
obtain
that
zoom
webinar
functionality
and
basically
procure
that
that's
a
that's
a
larger
expense
than
just
using
the
zoom
meeting
aspect
of
it.
A
The
way
that
we're
using
zoom
right
now
is
through
zoom
meetings
and
anybody
can
who
has
the
link
to
this
will
be
able
to
jump
into
it.
So
if
we
work
to
move
to
the
zoom
webinar
format
to
see
what
apps
will
have
to
go
into
contract
negotiation
with
zoom
to
become
zoom
level
to
actually
obtain
the
zoom
webinar
format
of
it
now
we
were.
I
think
it
was
our
first
meeting,
that
we
were
getting
ready
to
be
bombed
and
that's
out
of
our
first
eirc
meeting.
A
I
was
once
we
were
able
to
become
once
I
was
able
to
become
a
host.
I
can
control
exactly
who
was
being
who
was
muted
at
one
point,
however,
inside
of
the
chat
portion,
if
somebody
who
was
trying
to
trying
to
bomb
our
meeting
was
to
go
inside
of
the
chat
portion,
I
would
not
be
able
to
delete
that
now.
Granted.
Only
the
people
who
are
in
on
zoom
will
be
able
to
see
it,
and
the
people
who
are
looking
in
on
youtube
will
not
be
able
to
be
able
to
see
it.
A
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F
I
think
we
just
need
to
need
a
little
quick
training
on
zoom.
It
sounds
like
to
me
because
I
agree
with
you:
councilwoman
jackson.
The
city
does
have
that
capacity
already
with
zoom.
So
maybe
we
need
to
reach
out
police
and
all
other
chairmans
and
perhaps
ask
velvet
or
someone
from
our
clerical
counsel's
office,
just
sort
of
walk.
You
guys
through
the
process
will
that
work.
E
I'll
be
open
to
that
at
for
for
the
our
next
meeting
is
next
week,
thursday,
and
as
of
now,
we
are
working
through
the
livability
and
tourism
department,
whose
deputy
director
is
setting
up
our
zoom
meetings.
She
has
the
capacity
amy
sutherland
to
do
a
webinar
or
a
meeting,
and
she
has
already
set
up
a
webinar
for
us,
but
again
I'm
open.
I
definitely
would
like
to
know
how
to
do
it:
how
to
control
the
mute
function
in
a
meeting
setting,
so
I'm
open
to
that.
F
Okay,
we'll
talk
with
with
our
clerical
counsel's
office
to
try
to
make
sure
that
they
have
a
conversation
with
you
guys
and
try
to
walk
you
through
the
process
and
really
sorry
that
you
guys
are
having
this
kind
of
issue.
But
when
we,
when
we
have
a
commission
that
is
as
politically
sensitive
as
this
one
is
we're
going
to
have
to
anticipate
some
of
what's
going
on
and
be
prepared
as
we
move
forward
for
more
of
it.
F
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A
We
do
have
a
few
two
of
our
subcommittees
who
are
looking
to
partner
with
other
subcommittees,
particularly
with
jerome
harris,
as
well
as
in
the
criminal
justice
committee,
and
that
will
be
our
on
our
end.
The
sub
group
of
the
hiring
development
and
the
training
committee
looking
at
the
police
budget,
as
well
as
the.
A
I
think
it's
actually
a
problem
with
my
sound,
but
but
we
do
have
a
sub
group
on
our.
On
our
end,
that's
going
to
look
to
with
partnering
with
jerome
harris,
as
well
as
the
criminal
justice
committee,
to
look
at
the
policing
side
of
it
and
that
well,
that's
the
subgroup
of
development,
training
and
development,
training
and
hiring
committee
they'll
be
looking
at
different
policies
that
the
cpd
has
but,
like
I
said
in
the
beginning,
our
the
highlight
of
our
meeting.
A
We
can
have
councilman
waring
come
on
to
talk
about
procurement
and
one
thing
that
we
plan
on
doing
each
time
during
our
meeting
is
having
a
different
councilman
come
on
and
talk
about
that
expertise
on
the
council.
So,
like
I
said
hopefully
next
we
can
have
councilman
warren
coming
up,
come
on
and
talk
about
procurement
and
then
the
week
after
we
plan
to
have
somebody
to
come
on
and
talk
about
a
different
issue.
A
couple
weeks
after
we
hope
to
have
somebody
come
on
talk
about
a
different
issue.
G
H
So
if,
if
I
may
interject-
and
maybe
it's
just
more
appropriate
with
this
subcommittee
than
the
other
since
you're
dealing
down
with
so
much
city
staff,
that
that-
and
I
know
you
you've
got
protocol-
you
can
just
you
know-
request
through
amber,
but
if
you
ever
feel
like
you
need
any
extra
oomph,
you
know
with
city
staff
to
be
responsive
about
anything
or
or
whatever
don't
hesitate
to
to.
Let
me
know
and
I'll
be
happy
to
see
if
I
can
help,
and
that
really
applies
to
to
any
of
our
subcommittees.
A
I
think
that's
we're
gonna
run,
especially
with
my
committee.
We're
gonna
run
into
that
problem,
particularly
with
procurement
issues.
One
thing
that
we
did
find
out
through
the
last
meeting
that
we
had
was
you
know:
procurement
can
actually
go
to
the
procurement
office
or
it
can
be
set
by
each
actual
department
within
the
city.
So
we're
going
once
we
start
trying
to
pull
records
for
that.
That's
gonna,
that's
where
we're
gonna
have
the
most
issues,
to
say
the
least
that
so
we
we'd
definitely
be
calling
on
you.
A
B
B
F
F
Crystal
I
will
any
of
those
subject
areas
that
you
just
mentioned
deal
with
issues
as
it
relates
to
deconsolidation
issues
as
relates
to
you
know.
This
is
just
stuff
for
discussion.
What
would
happen
if
the
city
of
charleston
took
over
its
own
schools?
Those
kinds
of
issues?
Are
you
discussing
them.
B
I
E
They
have
obtained
an
inventory
of
the
south
plain
department
of
archives
and
history
markers
as
pertains
to
our
city,
but
we
are
encountering
some
difficulty
acquiring
an
inventory
from
the
city.
We
have
for
city
markers,
not
state
markers.
We
have
reached
out
to
the
department
of
cultural
affairs,
scott
watson
and
livability
and
tourism
amy
sutherland.
They
have
been
working
with
us
and
put
us
in
contact
or
sent
a
message.
They
said
to
the
department
of
parks
and
recreation,
which
apparently
has
that
information.
E
We
are
in
desperate
need
of
that
material
in
order
to
begin
to
examine
what
is
actually
on
the
landscape.
So
we
hope
to
have
that
by
tomorrow,
so
that
we
can
put
that
on
our
agenda,
because
our
plan
is
to
focus
on
the
topic
of
markers
and
monuments
and
memorials
next
week
and
in
particular
what
we
are
going
to
be
examining
is
what
is
currently
there
and
what
may
need
to
be
added
that
we
could
recommend
to
the
city
to
add.
E
But
in
90
days
the
the
document
we
have
already
is
this
big
for
the
state
and
apparently
the
one
for
the
city
is
somewhere
like
this.
So
that's
that's
going
to
be
challenging
for
us,
but
but
we
are
certainly
going
to
review
it
and
provide
recommendations
concerning
existing
markers
like
maybe
they
might
need
to
be
redone
or
or
are
spoofed
up,
or
what
have
you
recontextualized
and
then
things
to
add
to
the
landscape.
That's
our
plan
right
now.
E
This
project
was
brought
to
our
attention
by
councilwoman
jackson,
and
several
of
us
had
heard
about
it
independently
because
of
our
other
connections,
and
as
we
examined
this
particular
project,
the
information
provided
on
the
website
for
melon
indicates
that
melon
does
not
accept
proposals
for
funding.
However,
in
other
words,
they
do
proposals
by
invitation.
Only,
however,
we
are
in
the
process
of
trying
to
brainstorm
about
ways
that
perhaps
we
can
recommend
that
the
city
of
charleston
elevate
itself
in
the
eyes
of
the
third
parties.
E
I
believe
that
is
it.
Oh
I'm
sorry
we
did
add.
This
is
very
important.
We
added
a
member
to
our
subcommittee,
mr
sean
halifax,
who
is
the
cultural
history
interpretation
coordinator
for
charleston,
county
parks
and
recreation.
We
had
a
vacancy
on
our
committee
and
we
added
him
last
week,
so
we're
very
pleased
to
have
him
and
he's
adding
a
lot
already
to
our
committee.
F
D
E
F
F
F
If
we
don't
okay,
then
I
don't
think
that
we
are
are
dealing
with
our
mission,
which
is
to
eradicate
the
vestiges
of
slavery
and
jim
crow,
and
some
of
those
vestiges
may
in
fact
be
tied
into
and
I'm
not
taking
a
position.
I'm
talking
about
discussion
may
be
tied
into
discussions
with
regard
to
what
we
may
or
may
not
want
to
do,
and
we
may
just
expand
it
textually.
I
don't
know,
but
I
just
don't
want
us
to
dismiss
okay,
that
which
may
be
extremely
controversial.
E
Okay,
thanks
for
your
thank
you
for
your
comments,
councilman
gregory,
I
think
that
puts
in
better
context
for
me
what
is
expected
from
this
particular
subcommittee
that
wasn't
it
wasn't
clear
to
me
that
that
simply
presenting
ideas
is
enough,
but
I
I
thought
that
we
needed
to
have
more
concrete
recommendations
to
propose
which,
of
course,
than
the
city
council
would
have
to
take
up.
So
it
is
good
to
know
that
we
have
more
latitude
to
to
present
ideas
as
part
of
our
recommendation.
E
Also,
as
you
were
speaking,
I
remembered
that
several
of
my
subcommittee
members
mentioned
that
darren
calhoun
was
chair
of
a
committee
for
the
charleston
360
350,
and
that
that
group
did
some
work
so
darren.
I
would
love
to
connect
with
you
and
find
out
what
all
you
did
so
that
we
don't
reinvent
the
real
wheel.
F
E
F
B
F
A
A
A
I
know
one
we
were
talking
about
was
on
the
former
exchange
site
exchange
building
site
inside
of
the
city
of
charleston,
but
putting
up
true
interpretive
signage
inside
to
the
to
the
well,
the
way
that
the
fort
sumter
visitor
center
has
signage
up.
That
has
the
pictures
and
has
the
true
history
out
on
different
marks.
So
I
I
would
absolutely
suggest
to
the
councilman,
as
well
as
to
the
mayor
of
folding,
our
committee,
into
what
dr
knight
is
already
doing
and
putting
it
forward
just
so.
A
We
can
have
some
type
of
cohesiveness
because,
like
like
councilman
gregory
just
said,
we
have
three
different,
commit
technically
four
different
committees
right
now
doing
the
same
exact
thing
for
the
city
of
charleston.
If
I
can
take
the
work
from
my
committee
and
put
it
somewhere
else,
I'm
I'm
definitely
down
to
do
that.
D
A
I
would
hope
so
yeah
I
have
the
I
have
all
of
our
meeting
minutes
and
everything
of
well
of
the
different,
the
different
subgroups
within
our
committee
for
the
350
that
can
just
do
and
in
that
way
we
can
try
to.
You
know,
put
everything
that
we've
done
all
together
and
just
move
forward,
just
the
one
that
I
believe
that
can
truly
push
something
forward.
E
F
E
Little
overwhelmed,
but
no,
I
think
that
it's
a.
I
think
that
the
idea
is
well
put
because
again
we
do
not
want
to
reinvent
the
wheel
and
if
there's
any
material
from
the
standing
history
commission,
that
the
city
count
that
the
mayor,
I
think,
is
a
mayor's
history,
commission
that
the
mayor's
office
has,
if
there's
material
from
them
that
is
useful
to
this
subcommittee.
E
C
E
C
The
mayor's
office,
you
know,
would
be
the
conduit
scott
watson
may
remember
two
summers
ago.
I
think
we
we
hosted
a
group
of
of
interns
who
did
a
whole
study
of
you
know
in
a
perfect
world
we
would
be
establishing
public
art
all
over
the
city
and
it's
a
great
report.
So
I
do
think
that
the
dr
knights
committee
should
have
use
of
that.
I
L
L
So
the
review
of
the
deep
dive
into
the
ordinances
that
are
is
indicated
in
the
framework
will
be
undertaken
led
by
ali
menigakis
and
arthur
mcfarland,
with
colleen
condon
condon
working
as
part
of
that
group
and
the
final
area
will
be
a
review
of
rachel
bias.
Assessment
of
the
courts,
author
and
ali
will
take
the
lead
on
in
in
that
area.
L
L
We
also
noted
that
the
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
interface
with
the
community
police
advisory
committee
and
its
subcommittees
that
are
looking
at
aspects
of
the
racial
bias
audit
and
to
figure
out
what
the
continuity
will
be
in
terms
of
getting
that
information
as
well
as
interfacing
with
the
public
safety
committee.
We
noted
that
the
after
action
report
was
presented
to
the
public
safety
committee.
There
is
a
hearing.
L
L
Our
next
meeting
will
be
scheduled
on
november
9th
and
the
interim.
The
subcommittees
will
be
meeting
to
develop
more
focused
activities,
so
their
work
reports
will
be
on
the
agenda.
Dr
bernie
powers
will
provide
us
a
historical
context
for
policing
and
criminal
justice
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
wendy.
Shriver
will
present
an
update
in
terms
of
audit
implementation
focused
on
those
areas
that
are
most
of
concern
to
the
committee
members.
L
There
one
other
thing
that
was
discussed
or
recommended.
There's
a
documentary
called
driving
while
black
a
pub
pbs
documentary.
It
covers
historical
relationship
of
mobility,
with
racism,
with
slavery,
development
of
automobiles
housing,
economic
development
and
brings
it
and
then
interfaces
and
intersects
with
criminal
justice
reform.
Our
committee
is
recommending
that
we
look
at
it
and
I've
seen
it,
and
I
would
recommend
perhaps
that
we
add
that
to
the
resource
base
for
the
entire
commission,
because
it
raises
some
interesting
questions
that
might
impact
the
work
of
other
commissions.
L
C
F
F
I
mean
which
I
understand
that
the
city
does
not
necessarily
have
any
control
over,
but
that
your
committee
could
make
recommendations
to
city
council
to
perhaps
do
a
resolution
in
support
of
some
of
these
issues
that
we
may
not
have
control
over
and
then
then.
Lastly,
as
we
as
we
deal
with
criminal
justice,
how
do
we
deal
with
it
on
the
preventive
level?
F
F
F
You
know,
don't
be
narrow,
too
narrow
or
any
of
our
committees
on
our
focus
that
we
can
go
outside
of
the
city,
we're
going
to
have
to
we're
going
to
have
to
deal
with
county
issues.
As
you
know,
state
issues
as
we
know,
so
I'm
just
I'm
just
looking
to
make
sure
that
what
I
think
the
mayor's
intent
is
for
this
commission
is
addressed,
and
I
think
that
that
some
of
the
things
that
are
outside
the
control
of
the
city
is
not
necessarily
something
that
we
should
not
undertake.
L
L
L
J
Yes,
I
can
thanks
amber
the
economic
empowerment
group.
We
met
last
friday
october
16th,
so
we
realized
that
most
of
our
you
know,
conversation
was
focused
around
business,
so
we
kind
of
you
know
delve
into
that,
just
a
little
bit
deeper
and
as
a
result,
we
came
up
with
four
focus
groups
that
are
going
to
be
focused
on
improving
government
contracting
and
spending
protocol
retaining
and
enhancing
existing
businesses.
That's
where
kenya
will
be
involved.
J
So
basically,
just
you
know
talking
about
getting
businesses
in
contact
with
the
crda,
get
them
prepared
for
the
metro
chamber,
just
basically
just
taking
that
business
to
the
next
level,
reducing
barriers
to
to
opening
a
new
business
and
improving
access
to
capital.
Of
course
these
can
grow.
You
know,
as
we
started,
to
focus
on
things
outside
of
business,
but
just
really
thinking
about
and
we
went
down.
You
know
this
alley
as
well,
just
thinking
about
economic
opportunity.
You
can't
talk
about
that.
J
Unless
you
talk
about
money
and
having
money
and
acquiring
money,
so
we're
trying
to
think
of
some
outside
of
the
box
ideas
and
one
of
those
ideas
was
we
wanted
to
talk
about
establishing
some
type
of
trust
fund
right,
a
trust
fund
for
not
just
black
owned
businesses,
but
black
charleston
in
general.
Of
course,
some
of
the
challenges
are
where
you
get
the
money
from
all
right.
J
So
a
couple
ideas
that
we
came
across
was
you
know
having
the
city
put
in
a
certain
percentage
of
their
internal
revenues
into
this
fund.
Something
else
that
we
talked
about
was
basically
the
city
hiring
a
full-time
grant
writer
and
that
individual
sole
purpose
in
life
is
just
to
go
out
there
and
find
money
to
put
into
this
fund,
and
the
good
thing
about
that
is
that
you
know
person
would
you
know
pretty
much
pay
their
salary
right?
J
So,
as
they're
finding
grants
you
know,
certain
percentage
of
the
grants
would
go
towards
paying
their
salaries,
so
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
any
additional
burden
on
the
city
financially,
and
also
you
could
fundraise
right.
I
mean
you
could
have
a
gale
every
year.
You
could
invite
to
who's
who
charleston
anybody.
J
J
Something
else
that
we
talked
about
was
basically
in
incentivizing
black
businesses,
not
just
existing
businesses,
but
you
know
businesses
that
want
to
come
to
the
city
of
charleston
and
the
way
you
could
do
that
is
you
know
you
just
kind
of
sort
of
think
boeing.
You
think,
google
right,
whatever
cities,
you
know
amazon,
you
know
cities
offer
different.
You
know
tax
incentives
and
abatements.
You
know
for
these
businesses
to
basically
come
to
their
cities,
so
that
was
you
know
just
thinking
outside
the
box
again
right.
J
How
do
we
create
black
businesses
and
how
do
we
sustain
black
businesses?
And
one
way
to
do
so
is
to
release
some
of
that.
You
know
financial
burden
that
you
know
comes
along
with
having
just
to
operate
in
the
city
of
charleston,
it's
really
expensive
and
there
really
aren't
that
many
black
businesses
down
in
the
city
of
charleston,
so
in
terms
of
you,
know
an
impact
on
the
city's
revenue
from
black
businesses
it.
J
J
But
just
if
we
focus
on
that
fund,
then
that
fund
not
only
assists
blackboard
businesses,
but
it
could
be
that
to
us
it's
black
charleston.
You
can
think
housing.
You
can
think
education
transportation
things
of
that
nature,
so
we
just
really
you
know
was
thinking
about.
We
got
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
get
the
money?
Also?
I
didn't
want
this
90
days
to
go
by
without
the
record,
showing
that
the
economic
empowerment
subcommittee
didn't
ask
for
the
money
so.
F
Just
just
a
couple
of
things:
alvin
thanks
for
all
the
gdp
sounds
like
you're
talking
about
a
bank
okay,
I
mean,
if
we're
talking
about
establishing
an
african-american
bank
and
that's
what
it
is,
but
we
do
have
an
african-american
financial
institution
in
our
city.
That's
been
here
for
a
while,
and
if
every
in
this
city,
okay
puts
a
hundred
dollars,
two
thousand
dollars
or
whatever
that
bank
build
that
bank's
portfolio:
okay,
not
depending
not
depending
on
the
city.
F
We
can
depend
on
the
city
to
make
sure
that
the
city
makes
deposit
in
that
deposits
in
that
financial
institution,
and
I
think
the
city
is
already
doing
that.
But
I
do
think
that
you
know
another
idea
to
consider
if
we
want
to
start
put
getting
capital
together.
Is
we
already
know
that
we
have
legitimate
financial
institutions?
F
In
in
minority
neighborhoods
to
invest
to
foster
economic
development,
you
know
so
I'm
with
you
on
the
business
side,
but
I'm
also
thinking
and
and
it
crosses
it's
going
to
cross
housing
and
many
of
the
other
things
that
we're
talking
about.
But
when
I
think
of
the
individual
and
and
how
we
are
continually
being
robbed
through
predatory
lending
practices,
not
just
on
housing
but
across
the
board.
F
If
we
can
attack
some
of
those
predatory
landing
issues,
we
would
keep
more
money
in
in
the
pockets
of
poor
people
within
our
within
our
city,
because
when
they're,
paying
30
and
40
interest
rates
on
car
loans
and
everything
else,
they're
being
stripped
of
their
wealth.
So
for
me,
when
I
think
of
economic,
empowerment,
okay,
I'm
not
just
thinking
economic
empowerment
in
terms
of
the
businesses,
but
how
do
we
empower
the
individual
to
make
sure
that
they're
not
continually
being
ripped
off?
F
Okay
with
a
lot
of
these
predatory
lending
loans
and-
and
I
think
that
teaching
financial
literacy
at
a
very,
very
early
age?
Okay
is
a
way
again
for
us
to
ensure
that
our
future
generations
have
a
clear
understanding
of
how
to
go
about
creating
wealth.
Those
are
just
some
thoughts
and
I'll
just
participate
in
your
next
meeting.
F
J
J
You're
just
you
know
you
gotta
solve
the
money
issue
and
and
then
I
don't
think
that
that
the
onus
should
necessarily
fall
solely
on
the
black
community,
because
we
know
how
we
got
here,
we're
in
the
city
of
charleston
right.
We
we,
we
know
how
we
got
here.
So
it's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
everybody
in
order
for
us
to
solve
the
problem,
which
is
why
I
was
kind
of
sort
of
focusing
on
you
know.
J
Maybe
we
look
at
the
I'm
getting
some
feedback
in
my
headphones,
just
just
being
able
to
capture
capital
basically,
for
from
like
everybody
I
mean
you
talk
about
where
charleston
strong
and
you
know
we
want
to
come
by
y'all
marks
at
the
top
of
the
bridge
and
all
that
stuff.
But
it's
it's
time
to
move
from
the
symbolic.
F
Gonna
take
money
yeah
alvin.
Well
then,
why
not
challenge
the
citizens
of
charleston
south
carolina
to
put
50
million
dollars
in
the
african-american
bank?
I
mean
I'm
just
saying
I
agree
with
you
without
capital,
we're
not
going
to
do
anything
okay,
but
if
we've
got
our
money
in
bank
america,
we've
got
our
money
everywhere:
okay,
but
in
a
place
that
would
at
a
minimum.
J
Actually
brought
that
up,
I
actually
brought
that
up
at
our
at
our
second
meeting
really
want
to
dive
into
who
we're
banking
with.
I
think
that's
wells
fargo,
if
I'm
not
mistaken
and
and-
and
I
think
I
mentioned
this
on
last-
call-
but
basically
the
like
city
of
charleston
shouldn't
want
to
bank
with
somebody
that
doesn't
want
to
bank
with
their
citizens.
F
And
and
council
has
had
some
of
those
discussions,
and
I
think
that
you
should
invite
somebody
like
councilman
rearing
to
your
meeting,
because
that's
something
that
he's
been
talking
about
for
for
for
quite
some
time,
but
I
still
say:
we've
got
it.
We
we
have
to
make
sure
that
when
a
dollar
is
in
our
community,
that
dollar
just
doesn't
go
out.
That
dollar
has
to
stay
in
that
community,
10,
15,
20
30
times.
F
Okay,
I
mean
that's,
that's
the
way
we
can
can
can
foster
wealth
in
our
community
and
then
a
lot
of
times.
We
say
we
don't
have
the
capital,
and
we
do
many
of
us
own.
Many
of
our
many
african
americans
own
a
lot,
not
a
lot
but
own
a
considerable
amount
of
land
in
this
area.
That's
capital.
We
need
to
teach
our
people
that
that
when
they
say
they
don't
have
money
that
they
they
do
have
money.
F
Okay,
they
have
equity
in
their
property
and
in
their
land,
and
we
need
to
teach
our
people
how
to
leverage
through
development
of
housing
or
whatever
strip
mall,
whatever
teach
them
how
to
to
take
that
land
and
that
money.
Okay
and
leverage
it
leverage
it
in
to
creating
wealth
for
them
and
for
future
generations,
but
I'll
be
the
next
meeting.
F
L
G
G
The
thing
I
was
going
to
interject
with
was
was
twofold:
one
about
the
capital
in
how
to
continue
this
effort
and
sustain
this.
I
do
think
it's
going
to
require
us
to
invest
in
having
an
individual,
that's
working
either
with
amber,
identifying
private
sources,
identifying
that
grant
money,
there's
money
out
there
and
and
when
I
look
across
the
the
region
at
the
corporations
that
come
here
and
oftentimes
come
here.
I
want
to
say
rent-free,
but
at
a
very
reduced
tax
base.
G
G
G
That's
waking
up
every
day
and
thinking
about
how
to
write
those
grants,
how
to
attract
private
foundation,
money,
how
to
reach
out
to
corporate
donors,
and
I-
and
I
would
challenge
you
alvin
and
everyone
else
when
we
talk
about
pots
of
money
that
we're
tapping
into
the
city
is
is
has
a
finite
tax
base.
I
would
encourage
us
to
think
about
where
the
a
tax
dollars
goes
and
the
hospitality
tax
dollars
go
at
the
state
level.
H
K
G
Small
business
owners
in
charleston
all
over
the
place
white
black
brown.
We
all
feel
the
same
pinch
that
we're
getting
from
from
giving
out
tax
dollars
and
accommodations
and
hospitality
and
wondering
where
that
money
goes.
For
example,
we
when
we
hit
hit
covid
in
april,
wouldn't
it
be
nice
to
have
four
or
five
million
dollars
set
aside
from
the
tax
dollars
to
help
fund
some
small
business
owners
that
were
suffering
not
back
on
their
their
their
rent
being
able
to
get
through
the
next
past
couple
months.
G
That's
I
think,
that's
the
advocacy
that
we
need.
I
think
for
me,
that's
that's
where
we
get
to
focus
our
efforts.
The
city
is
finite
now
and
we're
gonna,
and
I
know
mayor
tech
is
gonna.
We're
gonna
do
what
we
can
as
a
council
and
as
a
city
to
help,
but
I
really
think
we
need
to
look
to
congressman
gregory's
point
outside
the
region
and
really
have
someone.
That's
that's
advocating
for
systemic
changes.
In
my
opinion,
at
the.
A
G
K
K
They
were
the
bar
jurisdiction,
north
of
the
crosstown
mobility
and
transit,
fair
housing,
ordinance,
rad
and
evictions
and
foreclosures,
and
in
our
last
meeting
we
really
focused
primarily
on
the
bar
north
of
the
crosstown
council.
Member
sacrament
gregory
had
received
a
letter
that
they
forwarded
to
me
from
a
group
of
homeowners
in
that
area
with
concerns
about
bar
jurisdiction,
and
so
we
had
several
of
the
folks
living
in
that
community.
K
K
They
had
pictures
and
she
had
to
replace
32
windows
and
she
budgeted
to
replace
those
windows
with
wood,
replicas
exact
replicas,
and
did
not
understand
that
she
was
in
the
bar
jurisdiction
because
the
bhr
jurisdiction
it
refers
to
demolition
and
she
wasn't
planning
to
demolish
the
house.
So
she
didn't
think
they
would
have
oversight.
But
when
she
pulled
her
permit,
she
realized
that
they
did
and
by
pulling
the
windows
out.
K
That
was
considered
demolition,
and
so
it
added
forty
thousand
dollars
to
her
budget
and
she
ended
up
having
to
refurbish
them
herself
with
a
friend
and
they're
put
back
together.
But
she
said
I
don't
know
if
they'll
withstand
a
hurricane
and
they're,
certainly
not
sustainable
as
far
as
my
utility
bills.
So
that
was
an
example
of
a
young
professional
with
a
good
salary
dealing
with
this
issue.
K
But
we
know
there
are
a
lot
of
minority,
low-income
homeowners
that
are
dealing
with
this
issue,
that
oftentimes
can't
afford
to
do
any
repairs,
much
less
refurbished
windows
and
that
kind
of
thing.
So
we
have
a
working
committee
that
is
going
to
be
reaching
out
with
the
city
bar
staff,
the
neighborhood
groups,
the
ayers
property
groups
and
we're
looking
at.
K
How
can
we
come
up
with
some
recommendations
that
can
ease
ease
this
for
families
and
help
them
make
repairs,
including
coming
up
with
money,
to
help
supplement
the
money
that
the
city
has?
I
talked
to
betty
bynes
and
he
said
the
city
has
about
eighty
thousand
dollars
per
house
if
they
meet
their
requirements.
How
can
we
find
another
funding
source
to
do
that,
and
another
idea
was
also
when
you
talk
about
economic
development.
K
K
How
do
we
create
jobs
through
this
for
folks
that
are
living
in
the
neighborhood
and
so
we're?
Looking
at
this
issue
and
we'll
plan
to
move
forward
after
we
put
our
recommendations
on
the
table
at
our
next
meeting
next
thursday,
councilmember
appel
gave
a
nice
presentation
and
walked
us
through
what
the
process
would
be.
We
understand
that
you
know
this
with
the
historic
preservation
groups.
K
We'll
have
to
you
know,
find
good
compromises
here,
but
he
suggested
that
we
bring
it
first
to
cd
committee,
and
so
that
is
our
plan,
so
we
will
be
doing
that
next
week.
We
also
have
a
working
group
looking
at
the
mobility
and
transit
that
we'll
be
presenting
to
our
group
next
week,
keith
benjamin
was
on
the
call.
K
F
F
F
In
fact,
what
she
did
was
a
study
of
zoning
in
north
charleston
to
deal
with
affordability
deal
with,
with
with
zoning
laws
that
might
restrict
the
city
from
being
able
to
make
certain
areas
affordable,
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
I
think
at
some
point
we
need
to
pair
with
her
and
to
even
pair
with
a
darren's
committee
as
they
go
through
the
zoning
policies
of
the
cities
which
may
may
not
incentivize
the
development
of
affordable
housing.
F
F
C
K
K
I
actually
already
have
a
plan
because
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
the
east
side
that
design
works
had
done
for
the
holy
side,
showing
re-zonings
that
could
really
help
with
those
rad
properties
and
really
pull
that
holy
side
together.
So
that
is
all
still
very
much
on
our
agenda
and
we
will
be
moving
forward
with
those.
F
K
A
Absolutely
and
real,
quick!
Thank
you.
I
do
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
penny
ashby
and
mandy
herring
who
will
be
invaluable
to
our
community
to
our
committee,
just
with
their
institutional
knowledge
as
a
historian,
we
always
like
to
look
at
institutional
knowledge
and
what
they
can
bring
to
our
committee.
H
I
I
hate
to
be
a
party
pooper,
but
I
need
to
sign
off
and
I
just
want
to
let
you
all
know
how
uplifted
I
feel
hearing
the
breath
of
these
discussions
and
proposals
going
forward.
It's
really
remarkable
and
I
want
to
thank
each
one
of
you
for
your
service
and
all
the
time
you're
putting
in
already
and
over
the
next
couple
months.
This
is
really
terrific,
great
work,
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
all
soon.
H
I
I
internal
review
has
a
meeting
that
same
day
at
six
o'clock
october,
29th,
history
and
culture
has
a
meeting
at
5.
30.,
housing
and
mobility
has
a
meeting
that
same
day
at
six
o'clock
friday
october
30th
economic
empowerment
will
be
meeting
at
one
o'clock
and
november
9th.
A
criminal
justice
reform
will
have
their
meeting
at
six
o'clock.
G
I
F
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
say
to
everybody
on
this
call,
thank
you,
but
dare
dare
to
rustle
feathers.
If
we
don't
wrestle
any
feathers
folks,
we
are
not
being
effective.
Okay,
we
can't
push
the
status
quo.
That's
not
what
this
is
about.
Okay,
let's
let
folks
know
that
we're
here
and
that
we
are
here
to
deal
with
the
vestiges
of
slavery
and
jim
crow.
F
Let's
make
it
simple
and
let's
just
see
what
systemically
is
there
that
we
need
to
remove
okay,
dare
to
rustle
the
feathers
and,
like
darren,
says,
let's
be
intentional:
okay
and
intentional
means
making
a
choice
and
clearly
understanding
the
consequences
of
those
choices.
So,
let's
be
intentional!
That's
russell's
and
feathers.
Folks
y'all
have
a
good
evening.
C
F
And
I
think
that's
a
fair
question.
I've
been
in
communication
with
the
chairman,
david
rivers,
who
has
sent
an
a
five
or
six
page
outline
of
which
we
should
share
with
everybody
on
this
call.
At
this
point,
if
we
haven't
of
the
direction
that
he
wants
to
take
his
committee.
However,
I
am
a
bit
concerned
that
the
collective
has
not
met
yet
so
that
we
can
have
a
cross
fertilization
of
ideas
and
voices
on
that
committee.
So
I
will
have
a
discussion
with
david
this
week.