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Commission on Equity, Inclusion, and Racial Conciliation 1/14/2021
E
C
B
B
H
A
C
E
B
Before
we
kind
of
turn
it
over
to
to
amber
and
the
rest
of
the
agenda,
I
just
wanted
to
obviously
welcome
everyone.
Hopefully
everyone
had
a
a
good
holiday
a
new
year
christmas
celebration,
a
couple
things
that
I
just
wanted
to
mention.
As
you
know,
obviously
we
continue
and
can
you
thank
you
for
for
the
work
you're
all
doing
as
we
head
into
the
interim
reports.
B
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone's
aware
of
those
deadlines
that
are
coming
up,
the
interim
reports
are
due
next
tuesday
january
19th
and
those
are
basically,
you
know
and
I
think
amber
shared
with
you,
a
template
or
an
idea
of
what
what
to
be
shared.
So
if
you
have
any
challenges
with
that,
please
get
with
amber,
but
we're
expecting
those
to
be
to
us
by
next
tuesday.
Those
will
be
distributed
to
the
commission
commissioners.
B
B
So
the
two
things
that
I
do
want
to
say
is:
you
know
we
have
till
basically
march
1st
for
the
final
recommendations,
but
I
really
would
ask
everyone
to
think
about
those
as
really
phase
one
of
our
work
and,
if
there's
a
recommendation
that
you
want
to
make
that
basically
says
you
know
this
particular
recommendation
needs
more
time.
The
mayor
did
say
to
make
sure
that
you
include
that
in
your
in
your
final
report,
but
we
need
to
kind
of
get
started
moving
with
with
on
to
phase
two
but
phase.
B
One
is
really
that
the
final
recommendations,
like
I
said
tentatively
due
on
may
on
march
1st
and
then
the
interims,
are
going
to
be
very
helpful
for
us,
because
you
know
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear
to
everyone
that
we
are
applying
for
the
kellogg
grant.
We
are
going
to
be
the
lead
for
the
kellogg
grant
in
the
application
we've
already
submitted,
what
they
call
the
letter
letter
of
intent
or
the
initial
letter
to
to
let
them
know
that
we
are
going
to
be
the
lead
organization.
B
B
D
Okay,
sorry,
it
took
me
a
minute
to
unmute
yeah,
so,
okay,
so
we
turn
in
our
of
these
interim
recommendations.
At
that
time.
Will
the
full
commission
look
at
those
and
say
you
know
you
turn
in
five
recommendations?
Maybe
we
think
three
of
these
are
worth
moving
forward
just
to
help
us
narrow
in
will
that
will
there
be
that
sort
of
feedback
that
will
come
back
to
us.
B
Absolutely
I'm
gonna
speak
for
myself
and
I
know
councilman
gregory
and
amber
probably
have
an
opinion
but
yeah.
I
look
at
these
as
kind
of
a
an
opportunity
for
us
to
push
the
reset
button,
perhaps
on
some
of
the
recommendations
or
quite
honestly,
ask
you
to
reach
a
bit
farther
and
be
a
little
bit
more
ambitious,
so
yeah,
that's
the
time
for
us
to
to
kind
of
look
at
those.
I
know
you
know,
council
members
that
are
on
this
call,
we'll
we'll
have
time
to
to
pour
through
those.
B
I
know
our
mayor
pro
tem
carol
will
look
at
every
one
of
them
and
and
so
yeah,
and
I
want
to
make
sure-
and
we
all
will.
But
joking
aside,
you
know
I
I
want
us
to
take
that
time
to
to
think
about
what
is
doable
in
the
short
term
and
what
things
might
take
a
bit
longer.
So
we
can
communicate
that
to
the
mayor
when
we
have
kind
of
a
long
term
or
short
term,
a
longer
longer
term
plan,
so
yeah.
I
I
I
If
that
is
possible
and
if
we're
going
to
consider
a
revision,
we
need
to
act
quickly
and
set
aside
our
next
commission
meeting
as
a
working
meeting
to
draft
out
a
new
template
in
concert
with
you
know
the
co-chairs,
the
council,
persons
who
are
on
this
call,
and
also
perhaps
the
mayor.
So
that's
what
I
wanted
to
share.
B
Then
I
would
make
sure
that
you
include
that
in
the
interim,
so
the
mayor
does
see
that
he
indicated
to
me
he's
very
open
to
hearing,
obviously
from
you
all,
but
also
said
that
you
know
we
need
to
get
moving
in
the
next
step
in
front
of
the
next
foot
in
front
of
the
put
in
front
of
the
other
next
foot.
So
I
guess
my
point
is
if
you
feel
that
the
timeline
is
constrictive,
I
would
include
that
in
the
interim.
B
B
I
B
I
I
We
have
asked
for
two
months
and
we
were
repeatedly
told
we
need
more
from
you
all
that
that
you
all
needed
more
time
to
flesh
out
what
it
should
look
like,
and
so
I
think
that
it's
unreasonable
to
ask
us
at
this
point
to
turn
something
over
in
this
quick
period
of
time
and
then
I'll
be
quiet.
Thank
you.
C
C
D
Okay,
there,
there
were
two
formats
that
were
sent
out.
One
was
a
lot
more
detailed
than
the
other
one.
The
one
that
felice
is
talking
about.
My
committee
is
struggling
struggling
a
little
bit
getting
our
recommendations
into
the
format,
so
it
may
not
be
pretty
all
of
that,
but
I
also
feel
like
if
some
of
these
recommendations
will
not
be
pursued
going
forward,
then
all
the
work
that
police
is
talking
about
that
has
to
go
into
it.
D
D
D
B
C
J
B
So
next
tuesday
is
the
interim
report
and
then
based
on
my
conversation
with
the
mayor,
he
would
like
something
on
march
1st.
But
my
point
is
in
the
interim
reports:
if
there
is
a
consensus
amongst
the
group
and
there's
a
theme
that
march
first
doesn't
work,
please
include
that
he
wants
to
be
flexible.
B
J
J
B
J
A
Thank
you
yeah.
I
I
hadn't
thought
about
what
you
were
just
saying
jerome,
but
I
would
definitely
support
your
reasoning.
We
don't
want
to
get
ahead
of
our
skis,
especially
since,
probably
before
you
got
on
the
call,
we
all
agreed
that
the
the
recommendations
that
are
going
to
come
in
a
more
narrative,
informal,
you
know,
document
on
january
19
could
very
well
be,
will
be
circulated
to
all
of
the
commission.
A
That's
on
you
know,
officially
seated
so
the
chairman
and
the
council
members
and
we'll
be
looking
at
things
on
the
sort
of
cross-cutting
pollination
side
of
things
and
and
potentially
saying
well.
This
one
doesn't
really
seem
to
fit
into
the
rest
of
the.
You
know
that,
especially
when
we're
trying
to
go
for
a
comprehensive
grant,
that's
got
to
hang
true
and
some
you
know
more
holistic
way.
So
I
to
make
those
individual
committee
recommendations.
A
A
public
report
I
do
think
would
be
shooting
ourselves
in
the
foot.
So
I
I
would
hope
that
the
mayor
you
know
could
take
that
under
advisement.
Obviously,
everything
we
do
is
foia,
but
it's
all
about
how
it's
you
know,
sort
of
declared
and
put
out
there.
This
is
official.
This
is
not.
This
is
a
work
in
progress.
A
What
I
was
gonna
say
in
terms
of-
and
I
haven't
seen
the
the
the
fully
orb
format
that
you
were
commenting
about
police,
but
it
sounds
to
me
like
just
from
you
reading
off
the
different
topics,
we're
basically
asking
y'all
to
create
some
sort
of
enterprise
plan,
some
sort
of
business
plan
that
you
know
I
I
don't
think
you
signed
up
for
early
on
and,
and
I
know
of
the
committees
that
I've
set
in
on
the
most.
You
know,
we've
emphasized
over
and
over
again
we're
talking
about
the
what's,
not
the
house.
A
So
what
what
they're
asking
of
you
in
this
template?
Just
by
the
list
of
things
you
you
recounted,
are
much
more
on
the
opera
operation.
How
are
we
going
to
achieve
the
goals
that
we're
asking
you
to
put
forward
to
us?
And
I
I
I
I
would
agree
with
your
frustration,
so
I
hope
we
can
revise
all
of
that
and
if
we're
going
to
be
on
the
long
haul,
you
know
we're
going
to
be
creating
some
sort
of
enterprise
that
far
exceeds
what
we're
doing
by
separate
committees.
A
Council
member
sacrament,
I
think,
council
member
del
chavo.
We
were
all
on
a
very
inspiring
meeting
today
about
the
atlanta
beltline,
which
isn't
relevant
to
this,
except
that
it
got
started
as
a
grassroots
movement
to
make
something
great
out
of
old
neighborhoods
around
atlanta
that
had
been
disadvantaged
and
disrespected
and
under
utilized
and
from
there
they
created.
A
They
have
a
whole
organization
that
has
a
staff
of
50
people
and
a
10
billion
dollar
spending
budget,
and
you
know
8
million
operating
budget
and
it
came
from
the
bottom
up.
So
we're
we're
we're.
We
have
models
of
things
like
that
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
aspire
to,
but
we're
not
going
to
start
out
the
gate.
One
kellog
grant
is
not
going
to
give
us
those
resources.
G
Yes,
hi
good
evening,
everyone
and
thank
you
police
for
bringing
that
to
the
forefront.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
things
and
you
know
I
try
to
write
things
down,
so
I
can
be
concise.
I
agree
with
what
our
chairs
and
co-chairs
have
already
shared
in
regards
to
slowing
down
just
a
tad
bit,
because
if
we
do
not,
our
work
is
going
to
continue
in
the
manner
that
it
where
it's
continuing
now,
which
is
in
a
performative
manner
and
when
it
comes
to
racial
equity
work.
G
G
However,
our
first
phase
should
always
be
making
sure
that
we
are
equipped
with
certain
knowledge,
as
it
pertains
to
the
work
that
we're
doing.
Then,
of
course,
we
do
the
research
and
the
reaching
to
the
community
to
figure
out
exactly
what
is
out
there.
What
do
we
have?
What
don't
we
have
and,
as
most
of
you
know,
that's
one
of
the
main
reasons
why
I
had
my
group
use
the
kellogg
logic
model
in
efforts
to
do
that
in
that
particular
manner
because
number
one.
G
I
know
that
kellogg
has
a
huge
focus
on
racial
equity,
so
even
without
the
2030
grant,
they
do
have
other
opportunities,
but
two
they
like
things
in
decency
and
in
order
and
it's
okay,
that
we
may
have
had
a
misstep
or
had
to
take
a
step
back.
They
want
to
see
that
they're
about
the
narrative
and
the
reality
of
what
we're
dealing
with.
G
G
G
B
Agree,
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
for
for
us.
You
know,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
if
we
would
be
in
the
same
situation
in
terms
of
cross-fertilization,
if
we
weren't
in
covid
and
in
this
pandemic,
you
know
the
challenges
is.
If
we
were
meeting
in
person,
I'm
not
suggesting
we
do,
but
if
we
were
meeting
in
person,
I
think
some
of
this
challenge
would
be
a
little
bit
less.
So
is
there
anything
we
can
do
to
pivot?
B
I
I
don't
know
what
that
means
in
terms
of
city
staff,
who
has
to
record
those
meetings,
and
you
know,
and
if
they
have
to
be
made
public,
I'm
not
sure.
I
know
our
subcommittee
meetings
don't
have
to
be
made
public,
they
do
have
to
be
recorded,
but
that's
something
I
was
thinking
is
that
maybe
let's
say
our
next
meeting
probably
is
going
to
be
on
something,
maybe
like
january
28th,
so
that
week
have
the
subcommittee
chairs
decide
amongst
themselves
on
this
particular
day
of
that
week.
D
I
think
that
there
has
been
some
discussion
from
some
of
my
committee
members
with
some
other
committee
members,
but
I
think
that
it
will
be
really
helpful
for
me
to
see
what
is
coming
out
of
the
other
subcommittee.
So
I
think
these
interim
reports
will
really
all
of
us
see
what
the
other
committees
are
working
on
and
just
like,
felice
and
crystal
said,
then
we
can
work
together
to
refine,
and
maybe
some
of
some
of
these
recommendations
will
actually
switch
over
to
another
committee
or
be
a
joint
recommendation.
D
So
I
do
I'm
always
asking
amber
well.
How
are
we
doing
to
everybody
else?
You
know
what's
going
on
in
other
committees,
and
I
couldn't
be
sitting
in
on
other
committees,
but
you
know
I
have
a
full
work
life
too,
so
I
think
it
will
be
really
helpful
and
I
think
that
we've
talked
and
and
councilmember
sacrament
you
have
talked
about.
You
know
the
cross-pollination.
I
Okay,
one
thing
I
want
us
to
be
mindful
of
is,
is
frankly,
the
time
frame
just
leading
up
to
the
kellogg
grant.
That
grant
is
due
february
25th
we're
currently
meeting
in
a
bi-weekly
fashion,
which
actually
means
that
we
have
a
meeting
like
I
said,
perhaps
on
the
28th
and
then
on
the
11th
of
february
and
then
whoa
february
25th.
I
I
C
Police,
you
have
no
idea
how
I
appreciate
all
that
you've
been.
You
just
said,
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
it's
not
something
that
jason
amber
and
I
have
not
discussed
extensively
extensively,
and
I
think
that
the
only
way
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
incorporate
everything
that
you've
said.
That
is
correct
and
the
way
you
should
be
moving
forward.
C
I
I'm
just
telling
you
because
the
arguments
you
just
articulated
and
everybody
has
articulated-
we
have
also
articulated
okay,
we've
articulated
them,
but
we
as
a
commission,
I
think
now,
as
opposed
to
the
two
chairmans.
Okay
need
to
have
this
kind
of
open
dialogue
with
mayor
teklenberg,
and
I
don't
mean
I
mean
we
should
yesterday.
We
should
have
been
having
that,
because
we've
been
making
the
same
kinds
of
concerns,
we've
been
making
the
same,
having
the
same
kinds
of
discussions
and
carol
to
get
to
your
point,
you're,
absolutely
correct.
C
Whatever
we
develop
right
now
will
be
foiable
okay
and
if
it
is
not
tight,
going
back
to
what
one
of
the
other
commissioners
said
we're
going
to
be
dead
in
the
water.
Okay,
so
I
just
want
you
to
know
when
I
say
I
agree
with
you
totally.
I
was
sincere
okay,
because
all
the
arguments
that
everyone
has
made
have
we
have
had.
C
C
And
I
think
that
we
need
to
go
back
to
the
mayor,
jason
and
tell
the
mayor
the
concern
of
the
commissioners.
This
has
been
an
ongoing
concern
of
amber
okay.
I
just
want
everybody
to
know
that
everything
that
you
put
on
the
table
we've
all
been
discussing
in
our
little
executive
meetings
and
the
the
template
that
was
provided
was
revited,
because
everyone
wanted
a
format
we
were
trying.
C
We
were
initially
going
to
just
let
it
be
based
upon
what
you
guys
come
up
with
I
mean
we
were
very
clear,
clear
on
that,
but
when
there
was
an
insistence
for
a
format,
we
want
to
try
to
get
that
format
in
such
a
way
that
at
some
point
we
can't
some
point.
I
don't
mean
within
the
next
week
or
two
days
either.
C
Okay,
we
can
come
up
with
such
an
equity
plan,
filling
in
all
the
blanks
of
which
okay
is
going
to
take
a
lot
of
effort
to
attempt
to
do
because
it
requires
us
to
cost
things
out,
staffing,
etc,
etc,
etc,
and
that
is-
and
I
agree
with
carol.
That
is
something
that
we
need
to
do,
but
not
necessarily
leave
that
on
the
shoulders
of
the
subcommittees.
C
C
To
focus
on
that,
so
just
want
you
to
know
that
everything
that
has
been
articulated
has
been
articulated
elsewhere,
okay,
and
so
the
decision
was
not
ours.
Now
I
think
it
has
to
be,
and
we
need
to
make
the
strong
recommendation
to
the
mayor
accordingly,
because
the
minute
we
put
a
piece
on
the
street
okay,
it's
public,
so
we've
got
to
be
very
careful
and
we've
got
to
get
back
to
you
guys
as
soon
as
possible
on
this
issue
and
to
start
ramping
up
okay
and
I'm
not
saying
we
don't
submit
something
on
the
19th.
C
Okay,
I'm
still
saying
we
have
to
submit
something
on
the
19th
and
what
should
grow
from
that
is
the
smaller
cross-pollination
cross-fertilization,
because
we
then
we'll
all
know
what
each
other
is
doing
because
right
now
we
don't
so
for
me
that
starting
point
is
when
we
get
something
from
you.
You
guys
and
then
bring
everybody
into
the
discussion,
all
commissioners
and
and
and
to
develop
the
kind
of
schedule
felice
that
you
suggest.
C
B
Thanks,
dudley
and
and
he's
absolutely
right,
please,
we've
had
these
conversations.
I
think
in
your
interest
include
that
feedback.
We
will
go
back
to
the
mayor,
but
I
do
want
to
just
before
we
pivot
to
the
rest
of
the
agenda.
I
would
like
to
flush
out
your
idea
about
what
we
do
after
the
interim
reports
and
how
do
we
better
collaborate?
I
would
like
to
create
that
structure.
F
Go
ahead,
yeah,
hi
good
evening.
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
suggestion
when
we
talk
about
this
type
of
work,
so
I
I
am
sitting
in
for
alvin
on
the
economic
empowerment
subcommittee,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
we
should
truly
entertain
is:
is
there
a
a
a
separate
organization
who
has
experience
and
expertise
and
not
just
strategy
planning
for
in
this
space,
but
also
in
the
racial
conciliation
work?
F
F
How
do
you
help
help
us
cross-pollinate?
How
do
you
create
that
timeline?
That's
meaningful!
That's
realistic!
I
I
think
it's
time
for
a
body
of
work.
This
big.
I
think
that
the
city
needs
to
truly
consider
bringing
in
someone
or
and
someone
meaning
an
organization
who
can
help
facilitate.
This
should
be
a
facilitated
process,
because
if
someone
else
is
facilitating,
then
what
happens
is
the
chairs
and
the
subcommittees
get
to
use
their
intellectual
property,
their
intellectual
capability,
to
really
focus
on
making
recommendation?
F
Because
an
outside
person
will
do
the
facilitation
of
all
the
work
and
bring
us
to
I'll
call
it.
You
know
the
desired
state
that
we
want
for
recommendation,
so
my
recommendation
would
be
to
really
truly
consider
bringing
in
and
outside
and
it
I'm
it's
not
going
to
be
free
and
it
shouldn't
be
because
this
is
a
huge
body
of
work.
It's
meaningful
and
it's
very
important.
So
we
haven't
thought
about
that.
F
That's
something
that
I
highly
recommend
that
you
as
a
commission,
you
guys
really
start
to
find
out
who
that
is
in
in
our
community
who
can
help
us,
because
I
know
that
there
are
resources
within
our
community.
We
don't
have
to
go
outside
of
charleston.
There
are
organizations
right
here
who
can
help
us
facilitate
this
work
so
that
that's
all
I
wanted
to
recommend.
B
And
that
is
dead
on
to
to
many
of
the
thoughts
and
things
that
we've
actually
talked
about.
Kenya,
and
I
would
include
that
in
your
recommendation
in
the
interim,
I
think
the
mayor
needs
to
understand
that
and
you're
right.
The
work
is
is,
is
critically
important,
but
also
complex,
and
the
facilitator
would
help
immensely
with
that,
and
I
know
councilman
jackson
carol
and
dudley,
and
I've
had
that
conversation.
C
You
a
point
of
order,
jason.
I
think
that
we're
getting
a
lot
of
great
suggestions.
I
think
it's
time
to
start
making
some
motions
as
a
deliberative
body
start
start
putting
some
of
the
suggestions,
like
kenya's
suggestion,
into
the
form
of
emotion,
and
we
start
voting
if
we
need
more
time.
Okay,
someone
needs
to
put
that
in
the
form
of
emotion
and
this
commission
votes
on
that.
C
H
F
F
E
G
H
H
H
H
H
C
H
A
I
think
we
need
that
kind
of
packager.
Visionary,
a
person
that
can
come
in
and
and
make
something
you
know
very
visual,
very
understandable
and
very
relatable
to
the
to
the
people
that
we're
gonna
need
to
put
it
in
front
of
so
that
that
would
be
the
kind
of
work
effort
that
I
resonated
with.
As
you
were
talking
about.
You
all
have
contributed
that
the
that
that
you
know
the
the
value
of
what
we're
trying
to
do,
and
we
just
need
someone
to
make
it
as
attractive
and
not
not.
A
You
know
like
beautiful,
necessarily
graphically,
but
I
think
we
should
be
finding
a
company
that
could
do
that
too,
but
make
a
compelling
how
about
if
I
use
that
word.
We
want
to
be
compelling
to
what
we
have
been
doing
for
the
last
90
days
of
coming
up
with
things
that
the
city
has
never
undertaken
before.
F
Councilwoman,
jackson,
and
and
in
addition
to
that,
someone
who
can
also
coordinate
and
facilitate
our
ability
to
I'll
use.
The
word
marry
some
of
these
concepts
right
because
the
work
seems
daunting
because
we're
all
rowing
in
our
own
boats
and-
and
we
know
that
there's
overlap
because
of
our
conversations.
F
F
Well,
we
know
that
six
times.
However
many
subcommittees
there
are
that's
a
lot
and
we're
probably
not
going
to
submit
all
of
that.
But
what
is
the
right
thing
to
do
for
the
moment
in
time?
Based
on
and
I
heard
short
term-
I
heard
long
term,
and
so
we
also
need
someone,
that's
going
to
be
able
to
help
us
be
intelligent
about
making
that
decision
and
and
not
leaving
it
up
to
us
who
are
all
very
passionate
about
the
spaces
that
we
work
in
and
and
and
some
so.
G
Yes
and
thank
you
for
raising
all
that
kenya,
and
just
to
add
to
what
you
have
already
mentioned,
I
don't
want
to
repeat
anything
you've
already
said.
We
also
had
to
be
prepared
for
whatever
consultation
group
that
we
may
select
who
may
require
us
to
take
a
few
steps
back
through
their
initial
assessment
of
where
we
are
now
and
what
recommendations
we
put
on
the
table.
So
we
just
have
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
move
forward.
J
Yeah,
so
what
I
hear
is
that
one
of
the
characteristics
of
the
group
should
be
experience
and
demonstrated
ability
to
work
in
through
equity
and
racial
conciliation
lens.
I
hear
that
we're
asking
the
group
to
assess
where
we
occur,
the
work
of
the
commission
and
the
subcommittees
to
determine
where
we
are
and
then
to
outline
a
process
to
move
us
forward
to
a
final
report
and
to
present
or
craft
or
that
final
report
I
mean
those.
I
I
Would
it
be
the
would
we
be
asking
the
consultation
agency
or
individual
to
provide
us
with
a
realistic
time
frame
with
which
to
accomplish
this
work
and
therefore
based
on
that,
the
the
the
consultant's
recommendation
we
approached
the
mayor
with
that
specific
date?
Does
that
make
sense
what
I'm
saying.
H
H
Task
force
to
need
more
time-
that's
not
unusual
at
all.
For
example,
you
all
may
remember
hearing
something
about
something
called
short-term
rental.
I
can't
tell
you
how
long
how
many
times
that
commission
was
extended.
That
was
just
on
one
issue,
much
less
racial
reconciliation,
so
I've
always
felt
that
90
days
was
too
short.
So
I
don't
think
the
consultants
tell
us
that
I
think
we
just
need
to
convey
that
to
the
chairpersons
and
go
back
to
the
men
sit
down
and
we
just
get
more
time.
B
I
H
I
That's
what
I
I
agree
with
you
councilman
waring.
I
think
that
that's
kind
of
what
I
had
in
mind
and
I'm
only
I'm
looking
at
this
from
the
perspective
of
the
academic
researcher,
a
typical
research
project
of
this
scope
actually
takes
two
to
three
years
and
for
my
field
it
takes
us
a
we're,
not
going
to
spend
a
decade
on
this,
but
it
takes
us.
I
To
produce
a
monograph,
I'm
not
saying
that
at
all,
but
I'm
just
saying
you
know
a
research
endeavor
of
this
magnitude.
Certainly
you
know
requires
at
least
a
12-month
time
frame,
because
you
need
three
months
to
do
the
research.
Then
you
need
another
three
months
to
assess
your
findings
and
then
you
spend
the
the
last
three.
You
know
you
know
the
the
next
three
or
four
months
fleshing
out
the
final
writing
the
final
report.
So,
okay,
thanks.
A
E
Thanks
karen,
hey
guys,
it's
kim
so
question.
So
if
we
the
motions
on
the
table
right
now
about
the
consultant,
I
think
that
would
really
determine
what
that
timeline
looks
like
for
our
subcommittees,
because
I
would
anticipate
if
we
hired
a
consultant.
We
could
certainly
just
use
our
subcommittees
as
informants
to
suggest.
Those
broader
recommendations
is
what
I
thought
we
were
coming
together
to
do
the
more
broad
just
what
I
think
carol.
E
B
So
there
is
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
basically
hire
a
consultant,
and
I
know
mr
harris,
you
articulated
it
the
best,
so
we
can
go
back
and
get
your
recording.
I
think
you
are
you.
You
outlined
exactly
what
we
were
looking
for.
So
thank
you,
but
there
is
a
motion
on
the
floor
and
can
I
call
the
question
I
guess:
do
we
just
take
a
voice
vote
or
do
we
do
it?
B
A
A
You
know
relationship
and
that's
gonna,
be
something
that
we
don't
really
know
how
long
that's
gonna
take
until
we
get
into
it.
So
we're
gonna
go
through
the
function
of
combining
recommendations,
making
them
as
as
as
holistic
as
we
possibly
can
in
order
to
have
something
that
is
compelling
for
the
world
to
know
that
that
you
know,
tells
our
story
in
ways
that
the
committees
have
put
all
of
the
meat
on
the
bones.
So
I
I
don't
know
how
we
can
say
when
we're
going
to
be
done
with
that
part.
A
That
to
me
would
be
the
most
important
part
of
our
work.
So
far,
once
you
all
have
you
know
sweated
blood,
sweat
and
tears
to
to
get
to
the
recommendations,
then
we
need
to
make
something
out
of
it
that
will
stand
for
charleston
and
the
backbone
that
we're
going
to
deliver
to
the
community
in
the
world.
So
I
I
think
it
should
be
a
functional
timeline.
I
That
we
propose
the
motion
is
that
the
we
inform
the
mayor
that
we
need
additional
time
to
prepare
our
final
report,
because
it
constitutes
a
separate
phase
from
the
phase
that
we
are
in
right
now,
which
is
the
drafting
phase.
So
there's
a
drafting
phase
of
this
work
and
then
there
is
a
a
a
functional
phase.
I
think,
as
carol
put
it
where
you
actually
combine
all
of
the
ideas
of
the
subcommittees
together
to
produce
a
functional
report,
an
action
plan
that
the
city
can
use.
A
C
I
I
think
I
think
the
motion
to
the
mayor
is
that
we,
the
commission,
if
we
voted
in
okay,
clearly
understands
that,
in
order
for
us
to
get
a
final
report,
it's
going
to
take
much
more
time.
How
much
we
don't
know
yet
and
it,
and
I
think
that's
what
felice
is
saying
we're
we
need
to
when
he
asks
us
when
we
can't
tell
him
when
yet
in
all
fairness,.
I
A
H
Yeah,
I
agree
with
all
that,
but
there's
still
some
other
areas.
We
haven't
even
scratched
yet,
for
example,
the
zoning
area
that
I've
been
talking
about,
so
we
definitely
need
it.
Zoning
leads
to
revenue
and
some
of
our
zoning
ordinances
right
now
are
anti-small
business
anti-um
and
if
it's
anti-small
business,
then
it's
anti-women-owned,
anti-african-american-owned
anti-minority-owned
business.
So
we
know
some,
but
I
mean
I
know
that
now
and
this
we
hadn't
even
got
to
that
point.
We
had
been
talking
about
council
member.
C
You're
bringing
up
a
very
interesting
point,
because
I
think
we
know
a
lot
of
the
what
okay
we
know.
What
and
I
agree
with
the
council
member.
I
agree
with
carol
that
we
need
to
identify
the
what
okay,
but
I
still
think
that
what
we
submit
on
on
the
19th,
if
we
can
go
beyond
the
what
and
talk
about
the,
how
as
a
recommendation,
we
should
include
that,
because
we
know
the
what
most.
H
Look
councilman
remember
with
all
due
respect
us
and
what's
out
there,
that
we
don't
know
and
and
you're
gonna
find
that
what
out
when
we
talk
to
some
of
our
staff
that
work
in
that
area?
Who
knows
some
of
these
things,
but
frankly,
for
fear
of
not
being
popularly
accepted,
they
just
keep
it
to
themselves.
H
So
some
of
those
sidebar
conversations
that
our
staff
will
share
with
some
of
us
off
the
record.
We
can
formulate
into
action
steps
through
this
report
going
forward.
So
we
know
some.
I
agree
with
you
on
that.
All
council
members
on
here
would
know
that,
but
there
are
a
number
of
them
out
there
that
we
don't
know
about
that.
B
B
I'm
not
sure
amber
if
we
have
anything
else
for
for
tonight.
I
just
want
to
be
respectful
of
our
time.
I
do
feel
like
I
know,
tracy
put
this
in
the
chat
box.
You
know
this
is
a
good
meeting
tonight
and
and-
and
I
think
we're
making
progress
and
it's
nice
to
be
able
to
have
an
honest
conversation
with
folks
share.
True
feelings.
B
I
think
that's
the
only
way
we're
going
to
continue
the
work,
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for,
for
the
honest
conversation,
we've
made
some
progress
tonight,
it's
not
easy
and
it's
like
making
sausage.
They
say
right,
it's
not
pretty,
but
I
think
we've
we're
getting
it
done
so
please.
I
just
want
to
specifically
say
thanks
for
the
feedback.
It
helps.
C
C
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
stop
meeting
and
having
open
discussions
just
like
this
one:
okay,
when
we
all
have
had
an
opportunity
to
review
each
other's
interims
that
will
be
submitted
so
that
we
can
then
okay
get
together
and
see
what
our
inputs
will
be
into
the
kellogg
application
we
have.
We
have.
We
have
met
we're
getting
ready
to
meet
with
other
partners,
because
partners
are
very
important
in
this.
We
cannot
do
this
alone.
C
B
C
Wednesday
yeah
wednesday,
with
a
much
larger
group
of
potential
partners,
but
what
has
grown
out
of
that
discussion
today
is
additional
assistance
from
someone
who's
familiar
with
the
kellogg
grant
and
the
grant
process
who
we
will
get
together
with
the
city's
grant
writer.
Okay,
to
assist
us
in
pulling
this
application
together,
it
is
great
to
have
someone
who
knows
the
process.
Who's
been
a
part
of
the
process.
C
E
H
Just
one
last
bit-
and
I
know
we
we
running
over
time-
and
this
is
my
last
comment
anyway
in
in
seeking
this
consultant-
it
would
be
good
if
we
can
get
somebody
who
has
familiarity
with
towns
like
washington,
dc
or
atlanta
to
see
what
are
some
of
the
better
practices
in
those
cities
that
we're
not
applying
here,
just
just
as
fyi
as
we
go
about
trying
to
find
this
consultant,
I
mean
this
wheel
is
out
there.
We
can
learn
from
someone
else's
experience.