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City of Charleston Human Affairs and Racial Conciliation Commission Meeting 7/21/22
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C
E
Thank
you.
Yes,
let's
pray,
lord,
we
thank
you
and
praise
you
for
giving
us
this
new
day
and
an
opportunity
to
serve
you
and
the
people
of
charleston.
I
pray
that
we
will
use
our
hearts
and
our
minds
and
all
that
you've
poured
into
us
for
our
conscience
and
our
integrity
and
our
energy
in
your
name.
We
pray,
amen.
A
C
C
F
Hello
good
evening
committee
and
mayor,
and
thank
you
all
for
the
invitation
to
be
part
of
the
conversation,
whether
we're
observing
or
contributing
to
it.
Thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here,
my
name
is
victoria
ray
moore,
I'm,
the
co-founder
and
executive
director
of
a
grassroots
arts
and
culture
organization
called
tiny
is
powerful.
F
I
also
am
the
coordinator
of
programs
and
communications
for
a
grassroots
initiative,
the
social
justice,
racial
equity
collaborative
who
was
instrumental
in
guiding
the
slavery
apology.
That
was
an
early
outcome
of
this
committee
in
earlier
forms
the
existence
of
that
I'm
new
I'm
about
a
year
into
the
organization
and
I'm
proud
of
the
work
that
we're
doing.
F
I'm
also
here
to
to
share
with
you
all
some
tools,
a
tool
for
consideration.
I
recognize
the
formality
of
the
meeting
structure
and
how
they
are
conducted,
and
that
is
what
it
is
as
part
of
the
social
justice,
racial
equity
collaborative
there's,
a
larger
movement
taking
place
across
the
country,
which
is
the
movement
for
truth,
racial
healing
and
transformation.
F
There
are
a
lot
of
nuances
and
specifics
to
that
larger
movement
and
how
it
aims
to
impact
progress
and
change.
I
could
take
your
whole
meeting,
but
I
won't
one
of
the
tools,
though,
that
govern
some
of
our
gatherings
that
we
call
racial
healing
circles.
You
could
call
them
listening
sessions,
you
could
call
them
meetings,
call
them
what
you
want,
but
at
the
beginning
of
all
of
those
meetings
we
have
assigned.
B
You
on
that
real
quick,
it's
just
these
are
some
touchstones
that
we
use
in
the
racial
healing
circles,
which
are
really
great
they're,
just
they're
simple,
there's
only
10
of
them
they're
as
simple
as
be
100,
present
and
presume,
extend
and
presume,
welcome,
listen
deeply,
always
by
invitation.
No
fixing,
suspend
judgment.
B
Identify
assumptions
speak
your
truth,
respect
silence,
maintain
confidentiality
and
when
things
get
difficult
turn
to
wonder,
and
on
that
note,
when
things
get
difficult,
I'd
like
to
say,
I'm
one
of
the
few
people
that
was
was
able
to
participate
in
the
drafting
of
the
slavery.
The
city,
slavery,
apology
before
it
was
even
presented
to
the
city.
B
That
work
was
profound.
That
work
was
important.
That
work
was
acknowledging
some
truths
of
the
city.
I
think
it's
really
important,
as
y'all
continue
having
these
important
conversations
in
our
community,
that
we
acknowledge
that
this
isn't
about
guilt
about
one
person.
This
isn't
about
something.
We
are
not
the
center
of
human
trafficking
anymore.
We
were
in
the
past
as
a
city,
we
are
a
city,
that's
experienced
a
lot
of
change
and
demographic
change
and
that's
not
necessarily
from
each
one
individual
person.
That's
making
that
happen.
B
It's
a
group
of
people,
so
this
isn't
personal
work.
This
isn't
work
about.
This
isn't
work
about
guilt
or
shame.
This
is
work
about
what
is
best
for
us
as
a
collective
community
and
how
we
care
for
each
other
and
how
we
make
sure
that
we
build
on
what
we've
learned
from
the
past
and
we
make
better
decisions
going
forward.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
present
this
to
you
chairman
and
then
I'll
be
done
with
my
time,
and
can
we
get
your
name
for
the
record
as
well?
I'm
sorry,
it's
julie,
hussey!
B
I'm
sandy
morkle,
I
am
on
the
leadership
team
of
the
social
justice,
racial
equity
collaborative
and
was
also
part
of
that
team
that
helped
to
author
the
slavery
apology,
and
I
applaud
you
for
what
you're
doing.
I
applaud
the
the
continuation
of
this
work.
It's
extremely
important.
We
want
you
to
know
that
we're
here
as
a
resource,
we're
here
to
lift
you
up
we're
here,
to
be
able
to
do
this
work
together.
We
want
to
we,
we
have
we
special.
B
We
have
recognized
some
missing
gap
pieces
that
we're
missing
in
this
community
and
that's
what
we're
focusing
on,
but
our
collaborative
is
just
that
a
collaborative
it
has
all
kinds
of
organizations
involved
and
hark
is
would
be
one
of
those,
so
we
want
that.
We
all
are
needed.
We
all
need
each
other
to
be
able
to
continue
this
momentum
and
take
this
opportunity
to
be
able
to
change
the
course
of
history
here.
So
thank
you
for
your
work
and
we
look
forward
to
supporting
you
in
any
way
possible.
Thank
you.
G
G
If
I
take
the
time
to
tell
you
about
working
right
here
on
exchange
street
66
general
electric
in
the
70s
western
derry,
coburg
dairy,
then
dean
food
ferguson
and
tell
you
the
racism,
how
do
you
think
I
made
it?
How
do
we
adjust
it?
So
the
children
have
the
avenue
that
these
things
won't
face
them,
and
that
is
happening
big
time.
G
G
G
E
H
C
A
G
Well,
I
just
would
like
to
underscore
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
to
get
the
commission
here
to
this
point,
a
lot
of
really
dedicated
professionals
and
people
who
dedicate
a
lot
to
this
work.
So
I
really
I'm
wishing
the
best
for
the
commission
and
we'll
be
following
really
closely,
but
I
really
hope
that
again
the
attention
to
detail
and
the
attention
to
the
impactfulness
and
the
importance
of
this
work
is
really
important.
G
C
Thanks
marcus
anyone
else
from
from
the
audience,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
for
providing
some
input
and
feedback.
It's
wonderful
to
hear
from
the
public,
particularly
this
is
our
first
option
for
public
comment.
We're
going
to
continue
this
as
as
additional
commission
meetings
unfold,
but
thank
you
all
for
being
here
next
on.
Our
agenda
is
approval
of
minutes
from
our
june
meeting.
Can
I
hear
a
motion
to
approve
our
june
meeting
minutes?
C
C
C
A
I
might
change
the
report
a
little
bit
as
I'm-
I'm,
not
a
member
of
the
commission
but
proud
to
be
here
with
y'all
and
proud
to
announce
that
we
have
a
soon
to
be
new
employee
of
the
city
of
charleston
that
I
wanted
to
introduce
to
you
she's
with
us
here
today.
Adrian
swinton,
I'm
going
to
ask
adrian
to
come
forward,
maybe
and
introduce
herself
for
just
a
minute
but
she's
a
native
to
our
region
and
has
formally
worked
with
the
city
of
north
charleston
and
the
medical
university
and
adrian.
H
H
I
have
done
work
with
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
at
my
previous
employment,
which
was
the
medical
university
of
south
carolina
where
I
served
as
the
project
coordinator
there
that
work
I've
brought
into
the
community,
so
I
also
sit
on
the
board
of
my
communities,
keeper
mentor
group
and
I'm
a
mentor
there
as
well.
I
also
was
able
to
facilitate,
in
some
of
the
charleston
county
school
districts
inside
some
of
the
high
schools,
just
to
bring
some
welcoming
diversity
and
some
diversity
and
equity
training
there
as
well,
I'm
so
excited
to
be
here,
sir.
H
I
C
A
C
C
I
So,
as
all
of
you,
who've
worked
on
committees
before
know
how
important
it
is
to
have
a
firm
foundation
in
terms
of
understanding
the
basic
documents
that
govern
the
work,
I
like
these
three
sections
section
207
deals
with
the
purpose
section:
208
deals
with
the
responsibilities
and
209
with
the
organization,
so
I
kind
of
see
that
as
the.
Why?
What
and
how
and
what
I'm
asking
I'm
suggesting
that
we
do
just
walk
through
this
really
quickly
have
some
discussion.
I
If
there
are
questions
that
you
think
we
should
address,
perhaps
in
the
future
in
terms
of
clarification,
let's
do
that.
So
what
I'm
looking
for
is
questions
at
at
this
point,
so
section
207
does
not
have
numbered
paragraphs.
The
first
paragraph
defines
the
purpose
and
it
specifically
provides
a
definition
of
the
term
equity.
I
Paragraph
two
discusses
our
responsibility
to
prioritize
racial
equity
in
the
work
by
recognizing
that
it
does
impact
other
groups.
Paragraph
three
identifies
our
role
as
advisory
to
the
mayor
and
city
council.
Paragraph
four
identifies
that
we're
not
obligated
to
use
the
commission
the
airport.
Excuse
me
the
special
commission
report
as
a
blueprint,
but
we
do
have
a
responsibility
within
five
months
of
our
first
meeting.
I
Our
first
meeting
was
in
june
three
and
a
half
four
months
to
present
a
report
to
the
city
council
regarding
those
actions
that
we
think
appropriate
for
the
council
to
take
that
may
require
us
to
move
some
action.
We
have
an
agenda
item
later
on
in
the
agenda
to
address
that
the
recommendations
shall
adhere
to
the
principles
of
equity
and
the
laws
of
city
state
and
federal
government
non-discrimination.
I
Section
six
discusses
the
initiatives
to
recognize
the
need
to
eliminate
messages
of
slavery
in
jim
crow
area
era,
activities,
changing
our
local
government
as
necessary
to
reflect
equity
and
inclusion
of
all
people.
Paragraph
seven
again
articulates
that
it's
not
a
blueprint
to
adopt
all
of
the
recommendations
and
specifically
uses
a
language
clark
will
not
advocate
to
defund
the
police,
provide
cash,
reparations,
teach
critical
race
theory
or
advocate
to
violate
the
south
carolina
heritage
act.
I
I
Six
work
with
the
city's
core
development
of
a
strategy
and
outreach
again
to
engage
a
broad
spectrum
of
community
members.
So
there
is
an
outreach,
definitely
an
outreach
component
to
the
work
that
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
at
the
direction
of
the
mayor
and
the
council.
Collaborate
with
such
organizations
and
there's
a
list
of
them
eight
that
we
all
will
be
vetted.
I
I
It's
kind
of
abroad
and
all
the
duties
not
assigned
to
you
already
kind
of
kind
of
clause
and
number
11
at
the
direction
of
the
mayor
carry
out
any
other
issues
that
deemed
necessary
to
carry
out
duties
and
responsibilities.
So
we
may
get
some
additional
feedback
from
the
mayor
and
the
council
in
that
regard.
I
So,
on
the
questions
of
the,
what
any
any
clarifications
concerns
folks
have
on
on
the
what
okay,
great
the,
how
okay
so
membership
they're
13
the
calls
for
13
members.
We
have
with
the
appointment
of
councilman
seekings
this
week.
We
now
have
12
members,
there's
still
a
vacancy
on
on
the
body
to
be
filled
management.
I
That
is
how
we
get
supported
the
manager
of
equity,
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation
and
other
staff
and
consultants
as
needed,
as
you
think,
back
to
the
what
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
all
right.
It
sounds
like
it's
quite
a
bit.
We
have
the
authority
to
establish
and
designate
subcommittees,
as,
as
we
see
next,
as
we
see
necessary,
they're
not
limited
to
their
areas.
Those
noted,
including
housing,
healthcare,
criminal
justice,
small
business,
economic
development
and
communications,
but
we're
not
limited
to
those
or
we're
not
required
to
in
fact
establish
those
committees.
I
It
also
says
that
our
forum
is
five
members
and
we'll
have
a
written
record
of
our
proceedings
and
file
the
record
with
the
clerk
or
the
council.
After
completion
of
any
meeting
procedure,
section
e,
the
commission
shall
make
and
alter
rules
governing
its
organization
and
procedures
that
are
not
inconsistent
with
any
city,
ordinance
or
robin's
rules
of
order.
There
are
a
bunch
of
things
that
are
not
included
in
here
all
right.
I
Any
questions
or
concerns
again,
we
didn't
have
a
chance
to
talk
about
this.
I
hope
you
had
a
chance
to
review
it.
This
is
one
of
the
documents
that
we
definitely
is
a
is
a
source
document.
The
other
source
document
obviously,
is
a
special
commission
trial
report
and
I
would
think
another
important
source
document
was:
is
the
avery
2015
this
racial
disparities
report,
which
provides
the
database
for
in
context
for
much
of
the
discussion?
C
E
C
C
C
Next
two
pieces:
the
next
two
pieces
that
we
need
to
pivot
to
are
actually
getting
some
work
done
right.
This
is
the
second
meeting
I
think
folks
listening
are
probably
eager
to
make
sure
that
we
can
actually
start
deliberating
on
some
items.
So
the
first
is
creating
a
subcommittee
on
rules,
I
believe
miss
cook.
The
rules
were
distributed
council
rules
if
they
weren't
we'll
get
them
out
to
you,
but
we
want
to
use
those
as
a
template
for
the
rules
that
we
need
to
create,
and
I
would
I
would
strongly
encourage
you
all.
C
Just
like
we
did
with
the
special
commission
you're
going
to
have
to
meet
separate
of
this
meeting.
You
can
meet
monthly.
You
can
meet
bi-weekly,
you
can
meet
for
a
half-hour
bi-weekly,
but
the
goal
is
to
basically
come
back
at
the
next
meeting,
with
a
set
of
rules
that
will
govern
us
again.
You
can
use
the
city
council
rules
as
a
template,
but
here
are
some
things
to
think
about
as
recommendations
get
vetted
here.
How
are
we
moving
them
to
the
standing
commitment
is?
Is
it
a
unanimous
vote?
C
How
many
folks
need
to
be
on
our
subcommittees
that
we're
creating
on
rules
and
special
commission?
Is
it
three?
Is
it
five?
We
certainly
did
an
odd
number
to
to
make
that
vote.
So
those
are
just
some
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
to
share
with
you
all
co-chair
any
any
concerns
or
questions
about
that
before.
I
I
They
also
has
the
the
notion
of
being
recognized
to
speak
the
limit
of
speech
speaking
in
order
that's
so
we
can't
have
individual
filibustering
on
all
night
long,
the
ability
to
call
for
a
division
of
the
house
specifically,
if
we
choose
not
to
have
a
voice
vote.
The
in
this
case
would
be
the
co-chairs
have
the
opportunity
to
vote.
In
this
case.
It
says
the
mayor
has
the
opportunity
to
vote,
but
that's
the
case.
The
setting
up
of
committees,
the
composition
of
the
committees
in
this.
I
In
this
document,
you'll
see
the
city
has
standing
committees
all
right.
Those
standard
committees
do
not
have
any
non-uh
they're
staffed
by
city.
Employees
would
have
non-no
non-city
elected
officials
on
it.
I
think
we
may
want
to
look
at
that
in
some
of
the
areas
to
consider
having
people
who
are
experts
and
resources,
but
who
are
not
members
of
the
commission
or
elected
officials?
That's
something
for
us
to
talk
about,
and
obviously
to
talk
about.
I
As
the
chair
has
already
mentioned,
you
know
the
quorums
of
those
meetings
how
they're
chaired
and
the
liking
notices.
There's
a
they'll
be
also
a
further.
We
should
have
some
conversation
around
questions
of
citizen
participation
in
meetings
and
perhaps
outside
of
meetings,
if
you,
if
you
so
choose
to
have
public
hearings
or
community
meetings,
how
they,
how
they're
governed
these
do
not
include
discussions
of
media
interaction.
So
we
need
you
know
the
notion
of
you
know
who
speaks
for
us.
I
When
can
you
speak
for
us
who's
us
in
in
meteor
media
activities,
and
it
also
does
not
speak
to
the
question
of
removal
for
non-participation
while
we
are,
some
of
us
are
appointees
of
members
of
council.
You
know
if
we
establish
a
rule,
for
example,
one
municipal
body
I
serve
on
there's
a
rule
that
says
if
you
miss
three
successive
meetings
without
any
kind
of
excuse.
Okay,
the
body
can
ask
for
you
to
be
removed
and
be
replaced.
I
C
Chair,
that's
it!
Thank
you,
mr
co-chair,
so
I'll
make
this
in
one
motion,
I'd
like
to
make
the
motion
to
establish
the
rules
subcommittee,
but
also
the
makeup
of
that.
So
let's,
let's
have
that
discussion
and
then
I'll
make
a
motion
to
establish
and
name
who's
on
that.
So
any
volunteers
for
the
rules
subcommittee,
mr
bowden,
I'm.
C
That's
a
great
question
so
right
now
we
are
we're
initially
just
establishing
the
subcommittee
on
rules
and
the
subcommittee
on
our
special
report,
because
our
first
task
is
to
basically
take
the
special
report.
We
essentially
have
till
mid-november
the
clock
started
ticking
last
meeting.
We
have
mid-november
to
provide
full
set
of
recommendations
to
council
regarding
the
special
commission's
report.
What
recommendations
we're
going
to
forward
that's
going
to
take
some
work,
there's
125
recommendations.
E
I
appreciate
your
your
coaching
co-chair,
but
could
we
think
of
these
then
more,
like
I
know,
subcommittee,
is
the
proper
descriptor
but
more
like
task
force
efforts,
because
we're
going
to
work
our
way
out
of
a
job.
Once
we
have
the
evaluation
of
the
recommendations
back
to
the
full
commission
and
then
maybe
we
will
establish
some
other
subcommittees
that
would
take
on
some
of
the
recommendations
by
topic
or
things
like
that.
I
D
This
this
is
carol
fryan.
I
I
have
a
question
and
I
I
guess
for
me
it
seems
like
we've
made.
I
think
I
just
heard
something
that
you
know.
I
I
didn't
think
was
how
we
were
going
to
approach
this.
It
sounds
like
co-chair,
sacrament,
you're,
saying
that
we
have
to
take
the
earlier
report
and
start
working
through
that,
and
I
thought
in
you
know,
section
208.
It
says
we're
under
no
obligation
to
use
the
commission
report
as
a
blueprint
framework
or
path
forward.
I
Four,
which
you
may
reference
you
doesn't
read
as
follows:
hark
is
no
under
no
obligation
to
use
the
erc
commission
report
as
a
blueprint
framework
or
path
forward,
notwithstanding
within
the
five
first
five
months
from
the
first
duly
call
meeting
of
the
heart.
It
shall
review
the
eirc
report
and
submit
those
recommendations.
C
That
is
correct,
so
carol.
I
I
hear
your
question
and,
quite
frankly,
we
aren't
using
the
entire
report
as
a
blueprint
to
move
forward
the
point
of
this,
the
we'll
call
it
the
working
group
is
to
basically
look
at
all
those
recommendations
and
figure
out
which
one
of
those
recommendations
we're
going
to
advance
to
essentially
our
city
council
standing
committees
which
are
which
are
staffed
by
our
duly
elected
representatives,
our
city
council
members.
That's
in
the
ordinance
that
is
the
path
forward.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
I
appreciate
that
enlightenment
because,
yes,
it
does
say
we
need
to
review
it.
I
guess
so.
I
guess
the
wordings
that's
used
in
there.
You
know
it
says
we're
under
no
obligation,
but
then
it
comes
back
and
says
well
yeah,
but
we're
going
to
review
it
and
but
okay,
I
I
understand
that.
C
And
just
elaborate
on
that
carol
is
that
that
is
the
the
charge
of
this
heart
group,
which
is
why
it's
such
a
diverse
group,
as
we
will
have
that
conversation,
we
will
take
a
vote
on
if
we
have
to
do
it
one
by
one
every
one
of
the
recommendations
which
ones
to
advance
which
one's
not
to
advance.
But
that's
the
point
of
of
this
established
body.
A
J
That's
that
was
never
the
intention
of
this.
There
are
some
pretty
specific
things
in
the
in
section
2-207
that
we
pretty
clearly
are
not
to
consider,
but
at
the
same
time
the
entire
document
was
a
process
was
a
product
of
a
lot
of
thought.
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
great
work
with
you
know
a
lot
of
basis,
in
fact,
and
the
real
problems
that
we
have
in
our
community.
C
Thank
you,
stephen
anyone
else
on
this
I'd
like
to
get
this
special,
we'll
call
it
the
task
force
on
rules
established
and
voted
on
so
volunteers
for
the
task
force
on
rules.
If
you
could
just
state
your
name
for
the
record,
so
jennifer
has
it
and
I
I
get
it,
what
is
it
again,
sir?
Okay,
bob
simmons
steven
bowden,
stephen
belden
jerry,
and
so
what
we're
going
to
do
to
help
is
we're
going
to
divide
and
conquer
so
jerry's,
going
to
basically
staff
this
and
I'm
going
to
staff.
C
All
right
so,
with
those
names
I'd
like
to
call
the
motion
to
approve
we'll
call
it
the
workforce
or
work
group
on
rules
or
the
sp
for
the
commission
with
the
following
three
members
that
were
noted,
I
don't
have
them
written
down.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
that,
so
what
with
the
any
any
all
yeses?
Just
please
say
yes
right,
yes,
any
nays!
C
Next
up
is
we'll
use
that
same
nomenclature.
The
work
group
on
the
special
commission
report
again
just
to
review
the
goal
of
that
work
group
will
be
in
the
next
four
months.
I
believe
it's
our
november
meeting.
We
would
come
to
this
this
body
with
a
set
of
recommendations
that
have
been
vetted
through
that
work.
C
C
I
Mr
grocer,
I
would
urge
and
certainly
suggest,
that
we
will
let
everyone
all
of
the
commission
members
know
when
the
task
force
will
be
working
the
meeting
so
that
folks
can
can
join
if
they
in
the
conversation
and
participation,
to
encourage
that,
and
I
would
hope
somewhere
down
the
line,
we
would
have
a
protocol
that
would
suggest
that
each
member
of
the
commission
is
engaged
and
involved
in
some
structure
in
some
way.
You
know
putting
in
some
time
over
time
because
it's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done.
C
B
B
C
J
C
I
would
I
would
I
would
leave
that
up
to
the
group,
but
I
thought
that
the
virtual
subcommittee
meetings
we
had
for
for
the
special
commission
were
tremendously
helpful,
very
convenient.
Try
to
keep
it.
You
know
quick
time,
keep
it
down
to
an
hour
to
be
respectful
folks.
This
time,
so
I
mean
that's
my
my
thoughts
thanks
stevens,
so
I
I'm
gonna
call
this
this
to
question
any
more
questions
on
this
before
we
call
the
question
on
this.
So.
B
C
C
Next
on
the
agenda
is
the
approval
of
a
equity
and
diversity
workshop.
Now.
This
is
something
that
we
have
tried
to
institute
before
with
the
special
commission.
I
think
I
alluded
to
this
at
our
previous
meeting
about
working
our
best
to
get
everyone
on
the
same
page
in
terms
of
language,
particularly
common
language,
around
the
terms
we
use.
We
think
that
this
workshop
will
help
with
that
there
is
funding
available,
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
much,
but
the
funding
is.
C
C
That's
a
great
question:
I
I
was
not
suspecting
it
be
an
all-day
endeavor.
We
ideally
would
want
to
invite
the
actual
other
city
council
members
to
the
workshop.
That's
that's
kind
of
our
plan,
which
would
be
this
commission
as
well
as
our
our
colleagues
on
city
council.
I
can't
tell
you
if
it's
an
all
day,
but
it
certainly
wouldn't
be
an
all
day.
I
think
the
previous
training
we
had
jerry
want
to
chime
in.
I
So
the
model
that
was
planned,
we
were
unable
to
execute,
for
the
special
commission
were
like
two
and
a
half
three
hours
sessions,
and
but
there
were
multiple
sessions
right
and
and
some
follow-up
excuse
me
follow-up
activities.
So
you
have
the
sessions
we
do
some
work.
The
consultant
comes
back,
facilitates
some
more
conversation
to
see
how
we
move
all
right
and
is
available
for
consultation.
Should
we
need
them
moving
forward,
it's
really
a
team-building
organization,
development,
kind
of
best
practice
to
try
and
move
that
forward
in
that
session.
So.
I
Reality
of
people's
time,
you
know
and
some
retention-
and
you
know
if
you
know
that
we
have
some
training
and
we're
starting
to
use
language,
to
come
back
to
see
whether
or
not
in
fact,
they're
able
to
use
it.
Do
we
need
to
change
the
language
all
right
or
there's
some
different
things
that
needs
to
be
changed?
It's
it's!
It's
really
a
development,
ongoing
development,
workshop
concept,
that's
what
was
presented
for
the
special
commission.
E
I
think
we
need
to
be
in
agreement
as
we
leave
here
that
the
purpose
of
an
equity
and
diversity
workshop
like
this
would
be
to
give
us
a
collegial
framework
so
that
we
that
we,
we
all
have
a
way
of
talking
about
the
same
things
thinking
you
know
not
not
in
lockstep,
but
at
least
having
that
common
denominator
of
understanding
that
will
give
us
the
richness
of
adding
our
own.
You
know
person
put
into
whatever
decisions
we're
going
to
be
recommending,
as
time
goes
on.
So
it's
really
a
foundational
for
me.
E
C
Thank
you
carol,
anyone
else.
So
as
I
look
back
and
shared
with
me
that
the
first
training
was
an
hour
and
a
half,
they
did
two
trainings.
There
was
a
total
of
three,
but
that's
really
essentially
what
I'd
like
to
to
figure
out
now
and
give
some
guidance
to
adrian
who
starts
a
couple
weeks.
Is
this?
Is
this
in
terms
of
our
time?
Would
would
you
rather
have
it
be
a
three
or
four
hour
training
or
break
it
up
into
two
separate
trainings?
C
E
I
I've
been
part
of
a
lot
of
these
over
my
long
life
of
non-profit
work,
and
I
I
do
think
that
you
build
up
sort
of
a
you
know:
collegiality
of
momentum,
of
relationship
and
familiarity.
If
you
stay
together
a
little
longer
than
an
hour
or
two
meeting,
it
sometimes
helps
to
break
the
ice
and
you
know
get
people
really
comfortable
with
being
together
in
a
small
group.
So
that
would
be
my
preference
is
that
we
schedule
ourselves
to
getting
started
longer
format.
E
K
C
C
All
right
cool,
so
I
think
that
gives
our
new
staff
person
adrian
some
guidance
and
some
kind
of
thoughts
about
that.
We
want
to
try
to
get
that
scheduled
sooner
rather
than
later.
Adrian,
you
start
on
august
august,
8th,
so
we'll
we'll
be
working.
My
co-chair
jared
and
I
will
be
working
with
mike
and
adrian
as
she
gets
onboarded
and
will
try
to
get
something
scheduled
and
sent
out
to
you
all
any
any
more
questions.
Sir.
A
A
C
I
C
Unless
we
can
get
it
scheduled,
I
do
think
well,
I
do
think
a
couple
things.
One
is
a
lot
of.
This
is
just
in
the
ordinance,
and
that
was
you
know
somebody
just
harkened
back.
We
gave
ourselves
90
days
to
come
up
with
the
special
commission
report
and
we
all
you,
know
chuckle
and
laugh
about
that
thinking.
Why
did
we
even
put
that
in
there,
because
it
was
a
lot
of
work?
C
What
I'm
saying
is,
I
think,
maybe
we
can
revisit
this
at
council
and
extend
that
five
months
we
need
to,
because
I
do
want
to
be
intentional,
and
I
want
to
hear
exactly
to
your
point,
so
we
can
do
that
if
we
need
to
bring
back
the
council,
so
I
just
want
to
reiterate
and
hear
what
I'm
hearing
from
you
is.
You
want
to
spend
some
time
on
the
special
commission
report,
or
do
you
think
we
should
do
the
workshop
first?
That
will
set
the
stage.
I'm
just
trying
to
understand.
A
We're
evaluating
a
report
and
right
now
you've
got
two
people.
That
said,
they
felt
comfortable
enough
to
make
recommendations
about
that
report.
I'm
going
to
assume
that
those
are
people
who
have
been
working
on
this
committee
for
a
while.
You
now
have
13
people
and-
and
I
don't
know
where
everybody
else
is
in
relation
to
this-
what
they
know
about
it,
but
you're
asking
for
a
recommendation.
A
You
don't
know
what
I
I
was
quiet,
because
I
don't
really
know
what
I'm
working
on,
because
I've
had
a
month
to
look
at
this
and
I've
looked
at
it
a
couple
times
and
I'm
halfway
through
a
report.
So
your
committee's
not
up
to
speed
equally
to
make
recommendations,
and
why
are
we
why
five
months
gotcha
I
mean.
A
C
A
I
don't
think
this,
I
think
everybody,
this
isn't
something
that
that
should
have
a
time
frame.
I
think
there
should
be
work
on
it,
but
I
don't,
I
think,
five
months
we're
going
to
meet
three
more
times
before
you
got
to
present
right
based
on
what
you're
telling
the
time
frame.
Here
we
got
to
do
this
in
november
you're
going
to
meet
basically
august
september
and
october.
A
K
Okay,
I
said
I
think
five
months
might
be
a
reasonable
time
to
say:
okay,
this
is
where
we're
at
and
maybe
come
up
with
a
projection
because
to
the
point,
he's
got
that
we've
got
different
levels
of
expertise,
but
we
can
probably
come
up
with
something
about.
I
mean
within
five
months.
We
should
know
how
people
are
coming
along
and
and
maybe
have
a
better
framework,
so
maybe
change
the
goal
of
five
months
to
a
a
different
outcome
at
five
months.
J
A
Reading
that
that
whole
purpose
section,
it's
also
you
have
to
do
it
in
conjunction
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
I
think
to
ask
this
group
to
really
understand.
The
comprehensive
plan
in
five
months
is
is,
is,
is
a
task
so
you're
really
looking
at
the
the
commission's
special
commission's
recommendations
in
in
conjunction
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
so
I
think
you're
right
I
mean
a
you
know,
just
a
reporting
you
you're
moving
along,
but
I
don't
think
five
months.
You
could
do
that.
K
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
ask,
because
I
had
a
note
there.
I
assume
you
get
to
a
point
later,
but
it
seems
an
appropriate
point.
Now
is
the
10-year
master
plan.
I
don't
have
any
exposure
to
that
other
than
a
little
bit
west
ashley.
If
some
it's,
I
think,
a
small
part
of
it.
It's
how
how
guys
it's
the
kind
of
thing
I
can
be
emailed
and
read,
or
I
mean,
is
it
going
to
take
to
get
a
feel
for
that.
C
So
I
pre
sometimes
I
I
appreciate
this
conversation
because
it's
it's
it's
clear
to
me
that
there
are
some
not
just
the
workshop,
but
there's
some
data
and
resources
that
you
all
need,
as
commission
members
to
help
you
make
the
best
decisions
and
how
to
move
forward.
So
let's
spend
some
time
to
figure
out
what
those
are.
So
you
know
the
the
language
around
equity,
particularly
a
lot
of
language.
That's
in
the
sec
special
commission
report
has
already
been
embedded
in
our
20-year
plan,
so
I
make
that
clear
that
this
stuff
is
already
integrated.
C
It's
folded
in
it's
it's
incorporated.
So
what
we're
working
on
is
is
not
new.
Having
said
that,
I
think
it'd
be
fair
for
you
all
to
see
those
plans.
So
what
I'm
hearing
is
you
all
need
a
copy
of
our
most
recent
plan,
certainly
a
copy
of
the
special
commission
report.
If
you
don't
have
it,
I
think
the
last
our
homework
for
us
last
time
was
to
kind
of
delve
into
that.
The
avery
report
yeah
so.
C
C
B
E
A
C
That's
why
we
broke
it
up
to
the
work
groups
is
the
the
intent
was
those
work
groups
would
also
be
meeting
as
well.
So
if
they're
meeting
separately
and
bringing
some
of
those
recommendations
to
these
meetings,
we
could
have
those
discussions.
So
essentially
we
could
be
meeting
six
times
before
the
november
if
theoretically,
but
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
your
point
that
there's
some
work,
we
have
to
do
ahead
of
time.
A
C
So
the
way
we
catch
up
is
by
amending
the
current
ordinance
to
basically
take
that
time,
time
timeline
away
and
basically
just
replace
it
with
wording.
That
says
we're
going
to
report
out
to
council
in
five
months
to
councilman
to
come
to
stephen's
point.
We
do
have
council
members
that
were
concerned
about
making
sure
that
we're
moving
forward
the
progress
and,
quite
frankly
I
am
so.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
provide
a
progress
report
at
the
november
city
council
meeting.
C
A
C
C
I
think
we're
all
on
the
same
page.
We
want
to
be
intentional
and
do
it
right.
So
I
I
appreciate
those
comments.
Well,
we
need
to
withdraw
the
first
one.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
the
motion
on
the
floor
is
that
we
are
going
to
change
the
amended
language,
commend
the
language
in
the
ordinance
to
reflect
that
we
will
report
out,
at
the
november
city
council,
meeting
the
status
of
of
the
commission
the
progress
status
at
the
november
city
council
meeting.
Second
second
motion
moved
and
seconded
awesome.
C
J
And,
and
to
address
your
concerns
I
mean
I
think
we
can
make
clear
when
we
go
to
amend
this,
that
not
to
expect
anything.
In
particular,
I
mean
we
may
find
that
we
delve
in,
and
you
know
we
need
more
time
to
talk
before
we
have
anything
specific
and
we
may
just
you
know,
tell
them
that
we've
we've
decided
on
these
committees,
we've
decided
on.
You
know
the
makeup
of
them.
We've
decided
on
the
rules
we're
working
on
it.
C
I
just
do
want
to
acknowledge,
though
your
comments
that
we're
all
coming
from
a
different
place,
not
just
our
life
experience,
but
you
know:
we've
spent
a
better
better
part
of
a
year
or
two
on
this
jerry
elvin
carroll
stevens
just
joined.
So
I
want
to
respect
that
and
I
want
to
honor
that
so
we
will
make
sure
to
slow
it
down
a
little
bit
and
but
still
keep
it
moving.
So
I
appreciate
those
comments.
B
And
then
for
those
of
us
who
I'm
so
intrigued
by
all
of
this
clearly
there's
big
work
to
be
done
here.
That
requires
that
level
of
scrutiny
and
intensity,
but
at
the
same
time,
there's
urgency
attached
to
that
and
you're
right
carol.
I
mean
people
lose
interest
when
there's
too
much
time
involved
and
something
that
was
important
becomes
less
relevant.
So
we're
balancing
that
so
such
good
points
here.
So
what
I
would
request,
could
I
audit
these?
B
I
I
I
have
no
doubt
I'm
going
to
want
to
jump
in,
but
I
would
love
to
be
feeling
a
little
bit
better
prepared.
Is
that
fair
that
I
could
audit
some
of
these
subcommittees
and
then
that
sounds
so
chicken,
but
it
really
does,
but
in
corporate
america
it's
fascinating
to
watch
that
wheel
turn
and
how
quickly
things
are
diverted
to
something
else,
that's
more
urgent
and
shinier.
B
A
D
D
You
know
a
lot
of
material
that
we're
having
to
go
over
and
as
as
it
was
stated
in
the
minutes
from
the
last
meeting
you
know,
a
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we're
we're
we're
here,
hearing
different
perspectives
on
these
issues
and
that
and
then
at
the
end
you
know
we're
successful
because
we
did
hear
those
and
then
we
come
to
agreements
on
moving
forward.
So
I
just
want
to
reinforce
and
say
thanks
again,
you
know
for
raising
that
point.
C
We're
going
to
conclude
in
a
few
minutes,
so
just
for
the
record
carol,
you
had
said
that
you're
going
to
work
with
jennifer
or
adrian
to
compile
the
list
of
needed
items
so
ava
report.
If
you
don't
have
yep
avery
report
special
commission
report
city
plan,
that
should
take
you
a
good
three
months
to
read
through
all
those.
C
K
K
It
could
be
really
valuable
for
the
housing
authority.
It
could
be
really
valuable
for
the
board
of
architectural
review.
I
assume
that
maybe
the
housing
authority's
probably
already
seen
it,
but
I
don't
know
carter
or
anybody
else.
So
those
are
people
if
we
haven't
already
provided
this
to
those
organizations,
I
think
they
would
find
it
useful
and
I
would
ask
anybody
else
to
think
if
there's
any
other
elements
of
government
or
social
outreach
that
might
because
there's
there's
good
data,
you
can
build
stuff
on
that's
a
good
point.
K
B
C
C
C
I
think
making
that
connection
for
us
in
real
terms,
real
life
policy
and,
seeing
you
know
this
didn't
happen
200
years
ago
that
this
is
happening
currently
in
terms
of
the
inequities
that
exist
steven's,
going
to
talk
about
criminal
justice
and
bringing
in
someone
from
the
solicitor's
office
or
someone
from
defender's
office.
I
think
hearing
it
directly
from
folks
on
the
ground
makes
this
much
real
much
more
real
than
than
our
reports.
Stephen.
B
C
A
B
Personally,
speak
for
financial
services
that
we
are
I'm
recently
retired.
However,
still
very
involved
with
friends
are
such
a
long
history
there,
but
but
the
the
burning
desire
and
the
it's,
not
the
inability,
because
the
the
it's
so
passionate,
but
the
burning
desire
to
have
more
diversity
in
financial
services,
because
so
much
depends
upon
someone's
life
with
their
financial
security
and
we're
desperate
to
have
more
people
that
look
like
the
real
world.
And
it's
a
hard
thing
to
do.
We
do
a
lot
of
work
with
hbsus.
B
I
would
love
to
have
a
role
in
that.
That's
very
important
grab
people
when
they're
young
make
them
a
fabric
of
these
organizations
so
that
it's
not
new
and
they're,
not
outsiders.
But
I
would
love
to
have
financial
services
involved
because
so
much
with
financial
security
and
confidence
you
can
conquer
so
much
more
and
that's
a
big
level
of
equal
ground
and
equal
footing.